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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Falcons Audible, presented

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Speaker 1: by AT and T. But this is a special pre

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Speaker 1: draft edition of the Falcons Audible. I'm here with my guys,

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Speaker 1: Dave Archer and DJ Shockley. I am, of course Derek Rackley,

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Speaker 1: and we are going to get into a lot of

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Speaker 1: things that's gonna happen with the NFL Draft, specifically for

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Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons. Real quick before I let the guys talk,

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Speaker 1: because I know they're chopping at the bit. It's been

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Speaker 1: like three months since you guys had a chance to

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Speaker 1: talk on this. Here's what we're gonna cover today. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna identify the key areas that the Falcons need to

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Speaker 1: focus on in the draft, at least what we think

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Speaker 1: they are. We're gonna actually talk about who the Falcons

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Speaker 1: take at number eight, our opinions. Once again, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: take a look back at Falcons free agency, see where

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Speaker 1: Atlanta tried to improve their roster, get the guys take

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Speaker 1: on where they feel like those guys potentially fit in

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Speaker 1: to the twenty twenty two action on the field, and

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Speaker 1: then we're gonna take a little dive into a sleeper

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Speaker 1: pick somebody that may not be your regular household name

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Speaker 1: that Atlanta could pick up and maybe the third, fourth, fifth, sixty,

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Speaker 1: seventh round that could potentially impact the Falcons roster and

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Speaker 1: their play on the field in twenty twenty two. So,

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Speaker 1: without further ado, DJA, how are you? Man? I know

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Speaker 1: glad to I see you every night. You come to

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Speaker 1: the house every night. He's a guest in my house

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Speaker 1: every night. DJ has not just been football, he has

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Speaker 1: been NASCAR. He has been golf, baseball, basketball, you name it.

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Speaker 1: Man been fun. But I'm glad to be back with Arch.

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Speaker 1: How are you with your I mean, do we know

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Speaker 1: you are in full mode? Here? He's got the binder.

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Speaker 1: I feel bad to flip pages. I thought I was

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Speaker 1: trying to consolidate with my little, uh a little notebook.

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Speaker 1: Here Arch has got a whole binder with the whole

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Speaker 1: entire league in it. I feel bad. I'll shock you

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Speaker 1: know how it is? You know you set a bar

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Speaker 1: about five six years ago doing this, and I can

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Speaker 1: I can I taper off for the people who can't

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Speaker 1: see it? Is it is impressive? Yeah, well it's impressive

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Speaker 1: to me. And again, you can't see this is He's

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Speaker 1: got the regular sheets of paper in the binder. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how you can flip pages without ripping them out.

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Speaker 1: I just don't have that finesse. Like when I turned

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Speaker 1: and how a finesse guy. All right, I'm gonna let

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Speaker 1: you dive right into the three ring binder right now

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Speaker 1: as we talk about our quick reactions. Not player, position group. Okay,

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Speaker 1: there's needs for the Falcons, but position group. You feel

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Speaker 1: like Atlanta addresses with number eight in the first round. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think we're needy guys, There's no question about that.

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Speaker 1: I think both of us are. All three of us

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Speaker 1: look at the numbers from last year, you're twenty ninth

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Speaker 1: league on third down defense, you're twenty ninth in the

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Speaker 1: league on red zone defense, I think you gotta affect

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Speaker 1: that side of the football. I want to. I want

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Speaker 1: to affect the defensive side. So I'm looking defensive end. Ye,

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Speaker 1: I think that's no surprise anybody corner Ye would be

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Speaker 1: where are you going position group? Will? I mean it's

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Speaker 1: then like our mention guys on the back end. I

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Speaker 1: but you need that standout guy on the outside as

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Speaker 1: well to go along with a J. Turrel. They didn't

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Speaker 1: get the passion rushers, so I think both those positions

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Speaker 1: have two key in on these drafts. Interestingly enough, we

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Speaker 1: Now I was not the defensive player, however, I was

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Speaker 1: it's a wide receiver Garrett Wilson of Jamison Williams, those

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Speaker 1: I went to college, all right, So let's dive into

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Speaker 1: it a little bit more. Arch. I'm gonna come back

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Speaker 1: to you. You mentioned that it's a needy roster. That's

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Speaker 1: true when you don't make the playoffs, when you don't

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Speaker 1: play up to the standard that you, the coaching staff

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Speaker 1: and the front office sets. You have needs that need

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Speaker 1: to be addressed in the off season. This is one

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Speaker 1: They fit the same kind of mold as a AJ Terrell.

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Speaker 1: Remember Matt Ryan, the franchise quarterback, was traded away. The answer,

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Speaker 1: at least for now short term potentially has been Marcus Mariotto.

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Speaker 1: but let him prove that he's not the future. And sure,

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Speaker 1: And I'm just wondering if you could put yourself in

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Speaker 1: play for this guy. My former coach came and got me.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, how much does that

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Speaker 1: boost his confidence for him to come in Granted, the

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Speaker 1: All right, we're going to dive into actual selections. All right,

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Speaker 1: You are now on the clock, Dave Archer. We need

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Speaker 1: I'm going a little I'm gonna put a little sauce.

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Speaker 1: I'm going Sauce Gardener at sixty three one ninety. A

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Speaker 1: I mean targeted thirty times this year. Sixty yards total.

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Speaker 1: guy did in game that allows him to be successful.

430
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Speaker 1: I love the fact you bring in a guy of

431
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Speaker 1: his caliber who is I think a character guy inside

432
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Speaker 1: of the locker room, but also would teach these guys

433
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Speaker 1: so much on the field as well as all the field. Yeah,

434
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Speaker 1: maybe that's one of the areas that Atlanta has missed

435
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Speaker 1: on the secondary. Is that veteran presence that can help

436
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Speaker 1: mentor guys. Because you think about just a few years

437
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Speaker 1: before Terrell was there that got the Kean o'neils, the

438
00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,320
Speaker 1: Ricardo Allen's like, that would have been that veteran mentorship

439
00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,000
Speaker 1: that could have really taken his career to the next level.

440
00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:50,880
Speaker 1: It's a good point. Maybe Heyward's the guy that ends

441
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Speaker 1: up doing that, not to mention that, not to say

442
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Speaker 1: that's his only role or Atlanta. He's going to go

443
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Speaker 1: out there and compete for a starting position, but he

444
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Speaker 1: can also help the team in the secondary in the

445
00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,840
Speaker 1: same they've how about you, what free agency acquisition you'd like, Yeah,

446
00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,200
Speaker 1: I'm looking at three guys to me and I talked

447
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Speaker 1: about the chip on the shoulder, and that's what I love.

448
00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,600
Speaker 1: What Terry Fonteau and Arthur Smith have done is they've

449
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Speaker 1: gone and got guys that aren't necessarily trying to extend

450
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Speaker 1: their careers. They've got they're going to get guys that

451
00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,959
Speaker 1: maybe didn't quite get their shake wherever they were, but

452
00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,000
Speaker 1: they've got a chip on their shoulder to say I

453
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Speaker 1: belong in this league and I belong at the highest

454
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Speaker 1: possible level. It starts as Marcus Mariota. I think that

455
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 1: that's an outstanding higher at the at the quarterback position.

456
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,919
Speaker 1: I think demure Bird is another guy that has speed.

457
00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,360
Speaker 1: It could catch the rock was in Chicago, knows this system.

458
00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,080
Speaker 1: He's gonna come in, immediately, fit in and play. He's

459
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Speaker 1: got some speed and he's a guy that really kind

460
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Speaker 1: of in the mix of kind of getting caught up

461
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Speaker 1: in numbers. He might have an opportunity here to step

462
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Speaker 1: into the stardom. And my number one guy's Lorenzo Carter.

463
00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 1: How about the number one about bringing the dog back home.

464
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,360
Speaker 1: He's excited as he can be to be back in Georgia.

465
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Speaker 1: He's gonna come off the edge. We need edge pressure.

466
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Speaker 1: I think look for Lorenzo Carter to be a pretty

467
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Speaker 1: good exisc. Carter is classic example of somebody that did

468
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Speaker 1: not throw up great numbers at his previous stop, but

469
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Speaker 1: he's got the everybody's talking about his ability and if

470
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Speaker 1: he gets in the right position, the right system, that

471
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Speaker 1: he could take off. I mean, it could be a

472
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Speaker 1: guy that pushes close to double digit sacks, which I mean,

473
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Speaker 1: would you say that they had last year eighteen double

474
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Speaker 1: digit from one guy would be fifteen nice. So they

475
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Speaker 1: talked about a couple of new faces. I'm just gonna

476
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Speaker 1: mention to me what I thought were a couple of

477
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Speaker 1: guys that are sticking around were great moves. No, how

478
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Speaker 1: about Young way Coo. I mean, the guy that was

479
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Speaker 1: the probably the most automatic player, special team player, special

480
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Speaker 1: teams player here. Okay, y'all weren't laughing at all the

481
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Speaker 1: points he scored for Atlanta last year, though, we would

482
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Speaker 1: say that, all right. And then Cornhill Patterson, I mean,

483
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Speaker 1: we talked about this one at the end of the season, guys,

484
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Speaker 1: and it was like we felt it was a no brainer.

485
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Speaker 1: He said that he wanted to stay here, he wanted

486
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Speaker 1: to play here. And if you are a head coach

487
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Speaker 1: and a general manager and you got a guy that

488
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Speaker 1: impacted your team in such a positive way last year

489
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Speaker 1: and he came out right away and said I want

490
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Speaker 1: to be on this team, then that's the guy that

491
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Speaker 1: you want to sign. He's not the one that's gonna

492
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Speaker 1: be noncommittal because he wants to go out in the

493
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Speaker 1: market and he wants to see if you can get

494
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Speaker 1: an extra five, ten, fifteen million from somebody else. He said,

495
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Speaker 1: I know what my value is here. I know what

496
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Speaker 1: this last season did for my career, and I want

497
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Speaker 1: to start something special. So to me, you talk about

498
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Speaker 1: two guys that were maybe the most consistent all season

499
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 1: for Atlanta last year are coming back in their jerseys

500
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Speaker 1: and hopefully you bring some compliment pieces around him so

501
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Speaker 1: it can be even better. So there's a look right

502
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Speaker 1: there at some free agency acquisitions and guys staying around

503
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Speaker 1: that we felt like we're good moves from this franchise.

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Speaker 1: All right, last topic before we let you guys go.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be that sleeper pick. Everyone in NFL circles

506
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Speaker 1: will tell you. The guys that you draft, latent rounds,

507
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 1: even undrafted guys that come in and make an impact

508
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 1: kind of define your tenure, especially in the front office. Right,

509
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Speaker 1: if you're Terry Fontino, you find a guy in a

510
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Speaker 1: sixth round that comes in and he starts and he

511
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Speaker 1: ends up being a pro bowler. You dominated the draft,

512
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Speaker 1: right because the value that you got. So maybe not

513
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Speaker 1: sixth round Dave, But let me start with you, not

514
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Speaker 1: necessarily a household name, who's somebody that you like that

515
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Speaker 1: could come in and make an impact. Well, there's the

516
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Speaker 1: first guy that comes to mind for me is a

517
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Speaker 1: guy out of Western Kentucky named D'Angelo Malone. And I

518
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Speaker 1: don't know if you know about him. Maybe you do,

519
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 1: if you've been doing your research, you'd probably do know

520
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Speaker 1: about him. This is a guy that's probably a late

521
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Speaker 1: day Day two picks, so he's probably gonna go in

522
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Speaker 1: the first three rounds, but probably in the third round somewhere.

523
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Speaker 1: Fifty nine tackles for loss, thirty two and a half sacks,

524
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Speaker 1: eight forced fumbles. He's an outside linebacker, like Shock was

525
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 1: talking about, that edge rush may not come from a

526
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Speaker 1: defensive end. It may come from a guy you're talking about,

527
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Speaker 1: like a linebacker steps up. Did you'd get in that second, third,

528
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Speaker 1: fourth round that could come off the edge of a

529
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Speaker 1: specialized pastor or sixty four two forty. You'll have to

530
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Speaker 1: work on some of his abilities against some of these

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Speaker 1: tackles in this league. But I think this guy could

532
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Speaker 1: be a diamond in the rough. Could you could fall into,

533
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Speaker 1: you know, a Von Miller type player that could come

534
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Speaker 1: off the edge, that used to getting to the quarterback

535
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Speaker 1: thirty two and a half sacks in his five years

536
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Speaker 1: at Western Kentucky. You know, and the interesting part about

537
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Speaker 1: guys like that too. Is is a lot of times.

538
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Speaker 1: Number one, they're not instantly rich, meaning that they're done

539
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Speaker 1: having to worry about money for the rest like sometimes

540
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: these NFL players draft in the first round like their

541
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: lives pretty much set right, So he knows he still

542
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Speaker 1: has to grind it every day. He knows he's likely

543
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Speaker 1: going to have to play on special teams, but he

544
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Speaker 1: also knows I'm one injury away from getting on defense

545
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Speaker 1: and earning a starting position. Right. And so those are

546
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Speaker 1: the guys we talked about chip on our shoulder, the

547
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Speaker 1: one year contract. Prove it, guys, maybe your mid rounders

548
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Speaker 1: are also like, you know what, I thought I should

549
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Speaker 1: have been a second rounder and I got drafted the

550
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Speaker 1: fifth round. Well, I'm gonna go show them that I'm

551
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Speaker 1: a second round player with my play on the field.

552
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Speaker 1: So it's a great point, that's it. DJ, Who do

553
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Speaker 1: you got? So I'm gonna jump into a conference that

554
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: Arch knows really well. I mean he's well versed at

555
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 1: all conferences. We know that, but this conference here, I

556
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: know that he knows. And I'm gonna pare on Winfrold

557
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Speaker 1: from Oklahoma. He gets to tackle six four two ninety

558
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Speaker 1: Round of four eight, And I'm gonna be honest, I

559
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: didn't see much of him during the season, just didn't

560
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: watch a lot of Oklahoma. But I started watching him

561
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Speaker 1: at the Singer Bowl and he started to stick out

562
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: for me. He ended up being a Singer Bowl MVP.

563
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 1: He's got an eighty six inch wingspan, which, if he

564
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: gets driving, were the third longest wingspan in NFL history.

565
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. That had to be that long. But

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Speaker 1: this is a guy that you can look and put

567
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Speaker 1: his finger in the dirt. Is a tough, physical guy,

568
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Speaker 1: can get up feeling and really be a master on

569
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Speaker 1: the inside. Guys we always talk about getting edge rushed

570
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: from the outside. How about pushing the middle of the pocket?

571
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,959
Speaker 1: Me and Arch eight from the middle of the pocket

572
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 1: to be collapsed on this. He's one of those type

573
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: of guys. I think it'd be that kind of guy.

574
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Speaker 1: Whether he goes third, four, fifth round, we don't know.

575
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Speaker 1: But he's one of those guys I think that you

576
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,640
Speaker 1: gotta keep your eye on and he could be a big,

577
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: physical guy on the inside that can help you. Yeah.

578
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Speaker 1: The interesting thing is I always kind of make this

579
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Speaker 1: joke and and I think it's true, But you know,

580
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Speaker 1: I would say Big twelve or defense is optional because

581
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 1: there's so many sports, you know, points scored. But you

582
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 1: still see a lot of really good individual players that

583
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Speaker 1: come out of the Big twelve and they end up

584
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: making a huge impact. And maybe Winfrey is one of

585
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Speaker 1: those guys. I know you're right. The defense has improved,

586
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Speaker 1: and hopefully it will in Oklahoma. Opefully it will in

587
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Speaker 1: Oklahoma with Venables being there, now, defense will not be

588
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 1: optional with him at the helm. I'm gonna talk about

589
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Speaker 1: one more guy that's probably gonna end up being a

590
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: third or fourth round pick, so he's not necessarily a sleeper.

591
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Speaker 1: But we're going back to Cincinnati and I'm gonna go

592
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Speaker 1: with wide receiver Alec Pierce. This guy's six three, Okay,

593
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Speaker 1: ran a four or four one at the combine and

594
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Speaker 1: he jumped forty and a half in the vertical, So

595
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Speaker 1: what that tells me? Six three? But you put him

596
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Speaker 1: down in the red zone. He's got that ability to

597
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: go up over the top and make those fifty fifty

598
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Speaker 1: catches and come down and score points. So and it's

599
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Speaker 1: not just like he's a possession receiver. He's still got

600
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Speaker 1: the speed to get downhill and be able to take

601
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Speaker 1: the top off a defense. But he's not necessarily one

602
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Speaker 1: of those guys you're thinking is gonna be your number

603
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: one or two. He might be a three or four,

604
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 1: but he could still be a really effective three or four.

605
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 1: So we've already talked about Sauce Gardner and Alec Pierson.

606
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Speaker 1: We haven't even mentioned Desmond Ritter if he didn't even

607
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Speaker 1: get to a quarterback conversation. That's three really good players

608
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: that are coming out of Cincinnatily. Yeah, so Cincinnati is showing.

609
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: And those guys, just to me, they come from that

610
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: blue collar mentality. They're not going to come in and

611
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: be divas. I think those guys are just gonna come

612
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 1: in and work and they're gonna help your football team

613
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Speaker 1: get better. That's what they had to do the whole time.

614
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: They got respect the whole time in college. So that's

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Speaker 1: all that we got here. I hope you guys enjoyed

616
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Speaker 1: our little pre draft preview. We threw out some names,

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Speaker 1: we threw out some topics, some position group picks, some picks. Chris,

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Speaker 1: that's it all right, just a couple of quick notes.

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Speaker 1: We will be back on Thursday night. We'll give you

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Speaker 1: a quick kind of summary of the who the Atlanta

621
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Speaker 1: ended up with in Day one. Maybe it ends up

622
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Speaker 1: being two guys. You just never know what happens on

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Speaker 1: draft night. Okay, so we'll be back after the first

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Speaker 1: round and give you our thoughts on how Atlanta did

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Speaker 1: on Day one of the draft. But also check out

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Speaker 1: the Falcons Final Whistle as they will give you coverage

627
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Speaker 1: to give you their thoughts on how everything shakes out

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Speaker 1: for the Atlanta Falcons in Day one of the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna do it. Fella's great to see you guys

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Speaker 1: want to again. Let's do it again here in a

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