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Speaker 1: It is Monday, August thirty one. This is Jack Wars.

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Speaker 1: Jack Wars Happy Hour is presented by Jet Home Loans

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Speaker 1: and now the real reason christ come to Sally need

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Speaker 1: We'll go around the National Football League will answer some

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Speaker 1: social questions. Man, do we have a lot to go

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Speaker 1: over to day guys? Pete, good afternoon, but what's up?

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Speaker 1: What's up? Fellas? Totally? I'm good Pete D talking today. Man,

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Speaker 1: you're really are You're really into the show? I can

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Speaker 1: tell you you. Are you upset about? Are you upset

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Speaker 1: about Leonard leaving? I mean what's got the cat got

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Speaker 1: the tongue? I mean what you are? Where am I listen?

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Speaker 1: I'm all over the I'm worldwide. Baby? Where are you?

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Speaker 1: You're in a car? I mean driving? I have a

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Speaker 1: driver right now driving me from one function to another?

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Speaker 1: Did you go to huh? Did you get let go too? Ay?

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Speaker 1: I didn't get cut. I didn't get traded, even though

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Speaker 1: you'd like me too. Because make your job easier is

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Speaker 1: logg him in now on mondays with it since the

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Speaker 1: Tony got traded. Yes, you didn't hear we traded logs

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Speaker 1: for the case of gatoring. He's out. Wow, it's like

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Speaker 1: the most extreme close up of Tony we've ever had.

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Speaker 1: To me, it's incredible, it's amazing. He's in a car.

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Speaker 1: I mean, are I'm driving. I'll be in front of

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Speaker 1: my computer. I got I got running late and uh

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Speaker 1: and so I said, you know what, I'm a pro.

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Speaker 1: Just do it from the car. Now you'll see me.

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Speaker 1: You'll see me walk in here pretty soon. This is

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Speaker 1: like live This is real life. You know they talked

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Speaker 1: about reality TV. That's not reality TV. This is reality TV.

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Speaker 1: This is the day in the life of Tony Boselli.

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Speaker 1: Nobody wants to kill down with a camera. Believe me,

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Speaker 1: no way, what are you talking about that? Nobody wants

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Speaker 1: to see your life. I'm getting my driver is filming

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Speaker 1: me right now? Is it the same same driver that

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Speaker 1: gave me the coffee a couple weeks ago? It's not

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Speaker 1: the same driver gave me coffee? Is he? Is he

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Speaker 1: also now your private Is he getting into your private

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Speaker 1: plane to go somewhere too? Like? I wish you know

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Speaker 1: what though? I wish the people are the people with

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Speaker 1: just left in a private plane, not me. I'm going commercial,

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Speaker 1: so you're actually in another city. It's basically yeah, wow,

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Speaker 1: it's amazing. I'm amazing. All right, let's get into it. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: let's start off with the Leonard Burnette news this morning,

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Speaker 1: waved by the Jaguars. Let's hear what Maron had to

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Speaker 1: say about it. The reasoning behind waving and running really

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Speaker 1: just trying to to to take the team and put

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Speaker 1: the best team together for what we've seen in our practices. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the day, I just

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Speaker 1: felt that was the best decision for us as a team.

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Speaker 1: I think it gives us the best opportunity with the

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Speaker 1: skill sets that we had with the other players in there. Um,

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Speaker 1: I just thought that that was the best for the team.

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Speaker 1: And doing it now, uh we exhausted, you know, all

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Speaker 1: trade opportunities. We weren't able to get anything there. Um,

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Speaker 1: So I just felt that, you know, now we can

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Speaker 1: you know, work on the team and the plan and

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Speaker 1: get ourselves ready for the season. A little bit later,

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Speaker 1: more from the head coach on this guy. You know, hey,

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Speaker 1: this is this is one where it's like complaining it.

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Speaker 1: They saw a few weeks of training camp and figured, hey,

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Speaker 1: this is not the type of running back that they

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Speaker 1: wanted this new offense, this at least the way they've described. Well,

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Speaker 1: then they they kind of shamed them on the way

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Speaker 1: really have to do they really have to do that. Um,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't fit. They don't think he fits. Now whether

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Speaker 1: not gonna be decided because they decided it already. But

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Speaker 1: they liked their younger backs. And we all know how

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Speaker 1: I feel about running backs. You draft them, you develop them,

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Speaker 1: So I'm not surprised by this, and nor should I mean,

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Speaker 1: lower price tag. Absolutely, But I think, um, I think

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Speaker 1: and what the Jaguars want to do is just not

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Speaker 1: a great fit. And it wasn't like he I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: good season. But you're right, he doesn't fit with a

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Speaker 1: I just don't think he's like they're running his own

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Speaker 1: not a great change of direction guy. But we said it.

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Speaker 1: I I used to call Toby Gerhardt the magic Man,

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Speaker 1: but I called Leonard for Nette the magic man too,

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Speaker 1: because he could turn uh two yard run into a

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Speaker 1: because that's not who he is. If the hole was there,

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Speaker 1: I always go back to the Pittsburgh play. It was

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Speaker 1: I mean, he is a fast, powerful human being, There's

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Speaker 1: no doubt about that. Who can get downhill. He gets going,

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Speaker 1: and he is tough. He's gonna be physical, he'll run

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Speaker 1: right time to do it or does that really matter? Well,

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Speaker 1: at the other side of my mouth, I go, why

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Speaker 1: didn't they address the position in the off season better

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Speaker 1: a third, fourth, fifth rounder? Why didn't they spend more

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Speaker 1: thing to me, JP is not that they got rid

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Speaker 1: So it's not that he's it's the timing and the

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Speaker 1: but they liked the guy. The young guys too. You know,

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Speaker 1: But I have not heard anything glowing about any of

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Speaker 1: these backs. Well, I'll say I mean that was the

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Speaker 1: these backs and which one so like they like the

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Speaker 1: rookie for Illinois Day. James Robinson is one of those guys.

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Speaker 1: Chris Thompson, of course broke in in free aqency, the

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Speaker 1: his career. But um, that was your explanation today. You

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Speaker 1: know that's what we're doing. You find you can find

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Speaker 1: Look the Chargers found Eckler, right, I mean you can

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Speaker 1: scrimmage on Saturday? Either wanted you to see it? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Did Robinson look good at scrimmage? Because somebody said did

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Speaker 1: a couple of moments I saw Tony? Well, first of all,

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Speaker 1: you're not tackling. I was like discounted running backs and

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Speaker 1: they look good. Yeah, but Leonard for that looks good

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Speaker 1: lot of backs look good because you know you can

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss you on UM. I like John the person.

425
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: I think he's a pro. I like how he approaches

426
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 1: the game. I think he prepares. Um. John and I

427
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: were able to have some really honest conversations. Um when

428
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,640
Speaker 1: he was here, you know, and I like John Davis

429
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 1: a straight shooter, and it was he was okay with

430
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 1: having conversations, like what I thought about his run defense

431
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 1: and like how you know different things like that, like

432
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 1: he was like a and I always appreciate that about

433
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 1: Yan and I exchanged the dams with them afterwards and

434
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 1: wishing them the best, because I really do wish John

435
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: the best, like I want him to be successful. Like

436
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 1: I don't like how it ended. I don't like that

437
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 1: he's not a Jaguar. I don't like any of that.

438
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: But as a pro and as a person and somebody

439
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 1: i'll be rooting for when we're not like i'll root

440
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: for Yon. Like there's other guys who've left I don't

441
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: root for because they I don't like how they left

442
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 1: and I don't really like care for how they did it.

443
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say any names. I will. I will

444
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: root for y'all. I don't root for him because, like

445
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 1: you know what, like it didn't end grade. I didn't

446
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 1: like him and Tony going back and forth. I didn't

447
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 1: think that was a good look. But overall, like the

448
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,479
Speaker 1: kid loves football. He loves ball. And if people tell

449
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 1: you when I was a player, like like if you

450
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 1: love ball like that, you're like, we're gonna get along

451
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:36,120
Speaker 1: because I love ball and uh, and so that's one um,

452
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,120
Speaker 1: you know. As far as what we got for him,

453
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: I think what happened there is you know, remember back

454
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 1: when we got rid of Jailan and the organization was

455
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: applauded for waiting and not going off there asking price,

456
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 1: and they said, you know, we're gonna get two ones

457
00:24:58,359 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 1: or we're not doing it, and we'll make him sit

458
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 1: year and make him just suffer. And they ended up

459
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: getting it, and everyone said, look at that patience and

460
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: you stuck to the guns, and they got it. And

461
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: I think they tried to do the same thing with

462
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: jan in the hall, just never came. And because the

463
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 1: criticism I heard is like why didn't they do it earlier?

464
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: Because I think they said, we're gonna use the same

465
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 1: strategy it worked, and we're gonna try to see if

466
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 1: we can get a bigger haul, and they never came.

467
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 1: I think it got to the point where like, we're

468
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 1: not getting it, so let's just take what we can get,

469
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: and as long as it's more than a three, it's

470
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: worthwhile because they would have gotten they would have got

471
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: a three form as a compensitary pick if you've gone

472
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 1: a free agency, and so you know, so I I

473
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: get the timing. I think they didn't work the way

474
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 1: they thought they thought they get more. The market wasn't there.

475
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 1: The final thing is this what bothers me? And I

476
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 1: think this is his organization where we had to sit

477
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: back and like do like an honest reflection. A good

478
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 1: young player who was football was willing to wanted to

479
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: leave this organization so bad that you make seven million

480
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: dollars less a year five point eight twelve, he's gonna

481
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: get twelve mint compared to seventeen point eight. Um. By

482
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: the way, Minnesota has the third highest tax state tax

483
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: rate in the country. That's another that's another one point

484
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 1: two million. You had five point plus one point two

485
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 1: that's seven million dollars less. He is willing to take

486
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: not to play in Jacksonville. That's a bad decision. Well,

487
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 1: I like, I love John. I would for seven million,

488
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: seven million dollar delta. You can beat me with a

489
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: baseball bat for the year and playing offensive line and

490
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: and you know, and call me every name of the

491
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 1: book and call me a bad whatever. I'll go play football.

492
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 1: And I don't know that one. I don't understand, and

493
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,719
Speaker 1: I think it's I don't know he got bad advice

494
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: from his agent from the beginning. I agree with you.

495
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: I agree with you from that standpoint. But but here's

496
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 1: my thing, Like I look at the both sides, like yeah,

497
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: I like, yeah, like seven million bucks. You're like, that's

498
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: a lot of money. Are you that unhappy? You can't

499
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 1: suck it up for one year it's for seven million dollars?

500
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:21,959
Speaker 1: Or does he look at it and say, I can

501
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: go to Minnesota playing Mike Zimmers defense opposite to Neil

502
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 1: Hunter and make that money back up again. And that's

503
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 1: another thing he might and that's a great point. Or

504
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: he says, you know what, I'm willing to take seven

505
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: million dollars less because one, I don't want to be

506
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,959
Speaker 1: there anymore. I don't like being there, and I think

507
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: I have a better chance of performing and a Zimmer

508
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 1: defense with a bunch of talent around me, and an

509
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: offense as a quarterback that's gonna get We're gonna have

510
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: to play with the lead. Hey, we like living in Florida,

511
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: but if you put me in Siberia for a year

512
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 1: and gave me seven million dollars, I'd be more than

513
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: willing to do it. But you know what I mean, people,

514
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: this is for the organization they ship. That's my point.

515
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: That's what bothers me because I love this organization and

516
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: like that, just like bothers me that the narrative is like,

517
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: guys are willing to pay play for a lot less

518
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: money if they don't have to play here. But what

519
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: what bad? What? What? What was what issue? Tom? Tom

520
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: supposedly had a lot to do with it. Well, I

521
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 1: don't know Tom had a lot to do with the

522
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: yawn stuff. Yeah, yeah, I think it started with Yawn

523
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: is that he felt like they paid other people I Eat, Myles,

524
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: Jack and others and didn't pay him and he was

525
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: more productive than they were. And he's like, wait a second, now,

526
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: he's never I'm just this is what I gave him.

527
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: He's never said this. But then Miles contract come after

528
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: he turned down. It was right, It was right during.

529
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: It was right in the middle of it all. Um,

530
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: it was right in the middle of it all. And

531
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: I think he basically said, like, listen, I want to

532
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: get paid what other double digit pass restaurants are getting

533
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: and we didn't do that. And pretty proud guy, and

534
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: a pretty principal guy, a pretty hard headed guy. All

535
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: these things I'd say, if you're sitting on the call

536
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: with us right here, And he basically dug his feet

537
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: and said you know what, Okay, you can kiss my

538
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: rear end. I'm gonna play hard. I'll be a pro,

539
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: but I'm never gonna do anything else for you. And

540
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: I think he just made his mind up. That was it.

541
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: I just I still think he got bad advice from

542
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: his age and he should have taken the eighteen and

543
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: a half million dollar a year deal that they offered

544
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: him when it went in that And in that negotiation

545
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: it went bad in large part because Tom, you know,

546
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: basically dissed him. Tom kept pointing out that he's not

547
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: very good against the run, and he took it as

548
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: a personal thing from what I heard, and and and

549
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: so once it went bad, then the agent kept banging

550
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: on him and banging on him and banging on him.

551
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta get out of there. You gotta

552
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: get out of there. And even after he fired the agent,

553
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: I think he's his whole mindset was I have to

554
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: get out of there. It's our But you're like Tony,

555
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: it's a bad look for the organization. So out, let's

556
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: just say Gardener Minshew throws for yards and thirty touch

557
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: thirty three touchdown passes this year and then doesn't like

558
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: his contract. Is he go and say I'm sitting out

559
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: or you're gonna trade me. I mean, it's a bad

560
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: look to give in, uh to two different players because

561
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: they gave him Jalen Rampy. Now get great, they got

562
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: a great haul for Jalen Ramsey. But ultimately, on the surface,

563
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: it looks like they gave in, which is why I

564
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: hear Shot Cohn didn't want to give in on this one,

565
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: but he almost had to in the end. I mean, well,

566
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,959
Speaker 1: and then it went bad. I mean then you got

567
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: I mean going back and forth with the owner. I

568
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: mean Tony Kahn is the owner, he owns the team.

569
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: I mean Shot is the principal owner, but he's the

570
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: ownership group. I mean Shot, I mean Tony Khan not

571
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: a good look. If you're a player going back and

572
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: forth with the owner, you know, taking shots on Twitter,

573
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: and if you're getting into it with Tony Kahn, you

574
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: get into it with You're getting into it one of

575
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: the most nicest human beings. I'm like none, and but

576
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, listen, that what makes part of what

577
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: makes youn a really like good football player. He's mean,

578
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: he's tough, he's nasty's competitive, and he's hard headed, like

579
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: he gets in his mind like it's me against the world,

580
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: and if you're in the world on the other side

581
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: of him, it's like a death match with this kid.

582
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: And I love that and I love it too, but

583
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: you have to separate it off the field, and I

584
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: think that became the team Like it was like I'm

585
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: done and I'll go to war and if even if

586
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: it even it's like the old mindsets, like even if

587
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: it kills me, I'm not going to back down. I'll

588
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: die for what I believe and that's that's who Yan

589
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: is foot and everything. But yeah, I picked him to

590
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: be the Defensive Player of the Year two years ago.

591
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: That tells you what I think about his abilities and

592
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: and granted it hadn't worked out that way, but I

593
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: still think he gets in that Mike Zimmer system. Playing

594
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: opposite Hunter, they got a chance to get what I

595
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you I appreciate that. It's about John.

596
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: I mean I told him how I felt like the

597
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: type of run defender he was and what he needs

598
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: to be different because he wasn't a great yet run

599
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: defender um because he's not a big guy, but he

600
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: has the ability and he showed flashes of his year

601
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: went on last year. He has to make him miss.

602
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: He's a one gap up the field, make a miss,

603
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: get on the edge, stress a tackle in space and

604
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: uh and that's that's just who he is. And when

605
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: he can rush the passer and you get him in

606
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: enough third down situations, he's gonna create havoc. He's gonna

607
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: strip the football, he's gonna create turnovers, and he's a

608
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: heck of a pass rusher. But Tony, when you talk

609
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: about his run defense, it's not a want to because

610
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: he'll chase out place from behind. It's at him because

611
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: he's not I say it all the time. I Mean,

612
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: if I played the uniqun Go way and it was

613
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: the run game, I'd be like, let's go, let's run.

614
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: Let's I don't need a tight end, let's let's run

615
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: weak side, stretch, outside zone. And I'm gonna get him

616
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: out there. And he and it's like I'm three pounds,

617
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: he's touring forty. And so unless he's gonna make him

618
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: me miss and get me in fit space, it's just

619
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: a tough matchup for him. He doesn't want whatever it's

620
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: not because he doesn't want to. How would you have

621
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: block him as a how would you have blocked him

622
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: as a as a pass blocker. I just my style.

623
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: I would have waited for him, make him run. I

624
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: just made him run over me. Yeah, I don't say that.

625
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: But he's great. But he's really He's really athletic, Pete.

626
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: He's really quick, he has good moves, his hips, he

627
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: can turn the corner. I mean, he's been a tough

628
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: It wouldn't it would have been no easy day at

629
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: the good player John Abraham maybe not as strong, I don't.

630
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: I don't think you know. Abe had a little bit

631
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: of h He's right two fifty five to sixty five,

632
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: ye as him? Yeah, yohn about let's come back. Um,

633
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: we'll get back on the unique and guy quit a

634
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: conversation of course, that's throughout the evening. Will come back

635
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: on the literal for neet front as well, and take

636
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: a look at the Jags first round of history as

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846
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Speaker 1: had eight top five picks all time, and only three

847
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: of those have signed second contracts. You were the first one,

848
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: Kevin Hardy was the second one, and Blake Bortles was

849
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: the third one. All the others never signed back here,

850
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 1: I mean justin Blackman, I think he was an eighth

851
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: or eighth pick overall, seventh, eighth, ninth rider on their

852
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:55,479
Speaker 1: jokes number two, neither neither in the league. Boordals number

853
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: third overall, not in the league. Not the Fowler's actually

854
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: a pretty good player, just didn't make it, couldn't make

855
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: it work here, signed a nice deal with the Falcons

856
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: in the right role. I think you know Dante Um

857
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: as a productive player obviously. Jalen Ramsey is probably the

858
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: most talented of the of this whole group, but just

859
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: did not work out for all the reasons we covered

860
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: better for that currently not in the league. Um he

861
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: should be, Um, Tim Bryanton, you know later in the

862
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: first round. I think there's questions. I think he was

863
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: having a good camp. I'm looking forward to seeing him

864
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: get back healthy after the knee, see what he can do.

865
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: I think he was Also, he was also picked one

866
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 1: spot before Lamar Jackson's not I know that. Um. I

867
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,959
Speaker 1: think Josh Allen's an absolute stud. Um. I think he'll

868
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: be a stud. Who knows about Henderson and Chason they

869
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: haven't even played a snap yet, so we're not gonna

870
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 1: comment on those. So yeah. But I mean here's the

871
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 1: thing is, are you gonna hit on all your first rounders? No,

872
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: but you gotta hit on a high percentage. And those

873
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: are the guys that, especially top five picks. Those are

874
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 1: the guys you have to build your franchise around. Those

875
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: are the guys going to the you know what, I

876
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 1: was gonna say, Hawaii, but it's not in Hawaii anymore.

877
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: Those are the guys going to the Pro Bowl. Those

878
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: are the guys who are top three at the position group.

879
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: Those are the guys that are on the top hundred

880
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: players nowadays that they do on NFL. I mean you

881
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: need those type. Those are stars, those are impact players.

882
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 1: And when you miss on those, boy, it's really hard.

883
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 1: It is really hard. And that's the thing Tony. Even

884
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: going back to Coughlin's first round picks, he he had

885
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: a lot of faults and he missed on guys, but

886
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: he hit his first round picks. Yeah, I mean, I mean,

887
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: you think of Tom's first rounders, you me Stu. Stu

888
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: is a good running back, good running back. He was

889
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 1: the last pick in the first round too. He's really

890
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: a second rounder because because we had the extra picks.

891
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: Um Hardy, Kevin Hardy, Pro Bowl player, um, Fred Taylor, Um,

892
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: Fernando Bryant, Starter, Donovan Starter, Starter. All those guys are starters.

893
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: And then it went bad when the panics started when

894
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: he picked r. J. Saward. That had and then he

895
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: got back on track though, you know John Henderson, Um

896
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: uh gosh o Marcus Stroud Stroud, Um, I mean so,

897
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean for the most parts. Now

898
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: you can argue some of the down the road guys

899
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: he picked that we're kind of like, huh yeah. But

900
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: and by the way, that's that was the nucleus of

901
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: our team when we were good. Think about here's about

902
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 1: these first round picks. Though he had knuckleheads in a

903
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: lot of those first round picks, and for example, Justin

904
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: Blackman was a disaster. Um Jalen Ramsey didn't work out

905
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: a large part because of himself. Um Donte Fowler. You

906
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: remember all the stories you heard about dot Day Faller

907
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: when he was in jack He was immature, he wasn't

908
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: going to his rehab meeting, he wasn't doing a lot

909
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 1: of those things. So a lot of those situations, you

910
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: knew they had issues in some situations, and you drafted

911
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: them anyways, And so that's why that's part of the problem.

912
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: So at some point that has by the way, that

913
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 1: by the way, JP. One thing the two thousand thirteen

914
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: draft was it was awful and you know, we could

915
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 1: you could nail joke for all you want, but Eric

916
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: Fisher is a decent player, but he was the first

917
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: overall pick. And let's not forget the other guy they

918
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: were gonna take was the pass rusher from Oregon who's

919
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: busted out all over the place, Dion Jordan's. So it

920
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: was just a bit. Two thousand thirteen was a terrible draft.

921
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: That was they were thinking about him too, but they didn't.

922
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: They couldn't figeret how old he was. But you know,

923
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: that's the thing to Tony. Would would you you still

924
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: think Joke was coming back and player left tackle? No history,

925
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: Tony has ever taken up for more than Luke Joke.

926
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: I always felt bad for him. That's why you want.

927
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: You wanted to be baby Bow so bad, but it

928
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,959
Speaker 1: never worked out that and then I know I wanted

929
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: to be Loup Joko. I just wanted him to be him. Wow, hey, quick,

930
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: thought about Tony the scrimmage on Saturday. Wait, you know

931
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: there's been all this news since then that you know,

932
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,879
Speaker 1: we haven't really touched on any of that yet. Yeah,

933
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: I mean that we let ye JP, I mean a

934
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: couple of things high level. Let me say this. It's

935
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: not it wasn't a scrimmage. It was it was a practice. No,

936
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: they did not tackle the ground, So well, I'm just

937
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: that a scrimmage, Like I don't understand, And I'd love

938
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 1: to ask Doug like get his perspective. I mean, what

939
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: he what was this thinking? I don't understand how you

940
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: don't have one full practice where you're tackled to the

941
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: ground like a preseason game and said, this is our

942
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: one preseason game. We're gonna do it inter squad because

943
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: we have to do something that prepares has for opening

944
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: days at all. Have they tackled it all? I've seen

945
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: him tackle one period. Yeah. I talked to Zach Taylor

946
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: today the Bengals and they tackle a bunch of different

947
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 1: practices of team at Yeah. I was shocked that they

948
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: did not have a full speed tackle to the ground

949
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: scrimmage so they could be ready for the Colts. That's

950
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: the first takeaway. But Doug has his philosophy. He's playing

951
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: it safe. Um. I just I think it's it's interesting

952
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 1: because you have limited practices already, have a young team.

953
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 1: I thought I would think that would be the thing

954
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 1: that would differentiate you, like, Hey, we're gonna really tackle

955
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 1: and we're gonna work hard and we're gonna go extra

956
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: so that we're ready and we're not sloppy opening day.

957
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 1: And they didn't decide to that. Fun. I don't think

958
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: it was a great scrimmage for um Gardner Minshew. You know,

959
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: it didn't look like there was a lot of zip

960
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: on the ball. Uh how many interceptions? JP was there? Too?

961
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: It was it was one and seven on seven and

962
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: then up picked six. He threw the d J Hayden

963
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: who was playing for the defense and that was in

964
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: eleven and eleven worked early and then yeah, there was

965
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 1: especially early in his day. Told me you just wasn't sharp.

966
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: Some overthrows, just timing wasn't there. And then they got

967
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: into the red zone and he threw a couple of

968
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: touchdown passes in the corner and and kind of as

969
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: the practice went on, got a little better. But um,

970
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 1: you know that wasn't it was It wasn't. It wasn't

971
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 1: a great day. Um. I haven't watched every snap because

972
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: I left a little bit early, and I haven't gone

973
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: back and watched all the tape, you know, but just

974
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: little things. I mean, I don't I mean, and I'm

975
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 1: sensitive to say this because I played the position and

976
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: you have bad plays, But I didn't like watching the

977
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: rookie Chason running around Cam Robinson for a sack. I mean,

978
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: because I think Cam's having a good camp. I mean,

979
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: just I mean, is at the end of the world,

980
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: you have bad plays. Maybe it's a bad maybe got

981
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: up late, I didn't see it. Maybe you got to

982
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: a point in camp where you're like, okay, we've been

983
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,479
Speaker 1: doing the same thing because that you know, even there's

984
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: that's my point. But my yeah, I'm green with you.

985
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: That's I'm not killing Cam about I think Cam's had

986
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 1: a good camp. Not this is not a shot at camp.

987
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: But if you're asking me this the scrimmage, like you

988
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: would like to see things polished like that, that's why.

989
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 1: And I don't know how they set it up with

990
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 1: the players, because to your point, sometimes there's a veteran

991
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 1: you're like, let me just get through these thing things

992
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: practice eleven eleven. But if you're if it's set up,

993
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, this is important, like this is the

994
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,760
Speaker 1: last thing we're gonna do hard, and so I expect

995
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: full go. Well, then you know that's different. So it

996
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: sounded like Jason. It sounded like Jason really flashed though,

997
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 1: did he He did at times. Um, he looks a

998
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: little bit. He looks much bigger than I remember watching

999
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 1: him on tape, a little thicker. I don't know if

1000
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: he's heavy right now. He has a hamstring, so he

1001
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: doesn't look as explosive as I think he'll be. Um,

1002
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: but I like that he's fighting through it. You know,

1003
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 1: the rookie call on Johnson looked good. I mean, obviously

1004
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: that's well documented. He had a good camp. I thought,

1005
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,919
Speaker 1: you know, uh, Looten, the rookie out of Oregon State. Boy,

1006
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: he can spin it. Oh, he can spin it. I

1007
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: mean really impressive out ball comes out of his hand. Um.

1008
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: So that was good. That was a positive. UM, but

1009
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 1: nothing stood out that was what that did anything. J

1010
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 1: P watching it saying, boy, we're gonna be really good

1011
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: at this, and what you're hoping that was would have

1012
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,399
Speaker 1: win Gardner Mitschew. I think we're gonna be really good

1013
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: at throwing the ball in the corner of the end

1014
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 1: zone and going to get it. D J. Shark had

1015
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: one of those. College Johnson had one of those and

1016
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: almost another one at the end of practice. Yeah, but

1017
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: that's the first of all in terms of the philosophy.

1018
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: What this thing is gonna really look like, what they're

1019
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: gonna do, Well, you couldn't take it away from that scrimmage. Well,

1020
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: first of all, you had to get to the red

1021
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 1: zone first and make those throws. That's the first thing. Secondly,

1022
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: it's still not a high percentage play. Yeah. I wouldn't

1023
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: read too much into this that practice. You know that

1024
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 1: you know better than that. Tell me I've been around.

1025
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: I mean when he asked me what I saw, it

1026
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: was the last is the last I will. I will

1027
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: say this, though they might they could possibly it probably

1028
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: won't happen. They could possibly start seven rookies at some

1029
00:55:55,760 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 1: point early in the season. Okay, who are Johnson and Chanault?

1030
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: Your head right? Excuse me? Collin Johnson? Uh is not

1031
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 1: gonna start at some point in the season. I didn't

1032
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 1: say right away. I said at some point early in

1033
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: the season. Uh, the running back Robinson? Okay, right, Hamilton's right, yep,

1034
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: Henderson Chase on mhm, and maybe Daniel Thomas. Let's go back.

1035
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 1: We'll follow up that thought in the second hour. Get

1036
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:50,080
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Speaker 1: I came in. Everyone clean slate, no issues, everything moved forward. Um,

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Speaker 1: everything's gonna be you know what's on the field. I

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Speaker 1: mean it's a teammate, all this stuff I'm talking about everyone.

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Speaker 1: This is what I said to everyone on the team,

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Speaker 1: and I tried to challenge all the people around me

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Speaker 1: to say, let's go off what we see. Let's take names,

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Speaker 1: take draft picks, take all that stuff off the jerseys,

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Speaker 1: take it off the table, okay, and then let's put

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Speaker 1: him on the field and see who the best players

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Speaker 1: are and what's gonna be best for our team. Um.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's that's what I feel like. You know,

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Speaker 1: that was my goal and that's my responsibility, and that's

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Speaker 1: what I feel I'm doing. Head Cook stuck moron day

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Speaker 1: after the Jags way Leonard for Nette Welcome in second

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Speaker 1: hour of Jaguars Happy Hour, J P. Shattrick with Pete

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Speaker 1: Frisco and Tony Boselli. Glad you're along with us today.

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Speaker 1: That's the big news of the day for net waves

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Speaker 1: by the Jaguars unique and got Way official now traded

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Speaker 1: to the Minnesota Vikings for draft picks that became official

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Speaker 1: at two o'clock today. That was reported yesterday morning. Uh

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Speaker 1: that so, of course those moves leave the running back room,

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Speaker 1: as we've discussed earlier, with some youth in there now obviously, UM,

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Speaker 1: we've discussed a little bit is it enough compensation for

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Speaker 1: in gock Way, But it sounds like that's kind of

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Speaker 1: what the deal was going to be, so they went

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Speaker 1: with it. And you know, the Jags do not have

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Speaker 1: a great, at least recently track record with retaining their

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Speaker 1: first round picks after the rookie contracts. Um. So, you

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Speaker 1: know before the break here we were talking about Pete,

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01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 1: you said eight rookies could be starting for this team.

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Speaker 1: Is that early in the year. What point in the

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Speaker 1: year are you talking early in the year and it's seven,

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Speaker 1: it's it's possibly having seven guys started ally shaking his head.

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Speaker 1: He's just being the negative. He just wants to argue

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Speaker 1: with me. Don't worry, Beselli. The fans are gonna be

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Speaker 1: calling in and stuff in a little bit. You can

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Speaker 1: argue all you want. There might be seven. Why are

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Speaker 1: you saying no, who's not? Which one of them has

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Speaker 1: no possibility of being a starter. I don't think Colin

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Speaker 1: Johnson will be a starter this year and now outside

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Speaker 1: of injuries, I guess if you have injuries. Yes, I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about as a starter. He's got up the town

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Speaker 1: because Shark's gonna Chart's gonna be a starter. And before

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Speaker 1: the third, the second receiver before Colin Johnson get there,

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Speaker 1: and I think Chris Commins. I think Colin's ahead of

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01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 1: him right now too. But you couldn't see Calmly getting replaced. Okay,

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Speaker 1: then that he's the third, he still have the starter.

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Speaker 1: I said he has a chance to be a starter

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Speaker 1: early in the season. I said seven. I didn't say

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Speaker 1: he was starting. No, Pete right, Chart, Calmly right now?

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Speaker 1: The third right now? So okay, let's say you move

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Speaker 1: Calmly out, so no, it becomes a starter now, Chart,

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Speaker 1: So like you have to have like three signs Arting

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01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: Tony to start three the NFL the players and with

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Speaker 1: three receivers and more, come on, you start three okay?

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Speaker 1: So um uh. Then the other one you said, Hamilton,

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Speaker 1: I can see starting at some point on early because

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Speaker 1: I think Abriel start, but he'll be a rotational player,

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01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 1: will be on the field a lot. Um. I don't

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01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 1: think Chase, yeah, Henderson, But I don't think Chason will

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Speaker 1: start right away because I think Chason will end up

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Speaker 1: being the back. I think he'll rotate with Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: a little bit. It would be rotational because I don't

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01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 1: think I think they're gonna start Josh Allen as the

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Speaker 1: open end and probably Smoot is your big end on

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Speaker 1: the close side ten in size. My guess how they start.

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Speaker 1: So I don't think Chason will be a starter, but

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Speaker 1: he could beat to your point, Henderson will be a starter.

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Speaker 1: Um where I could see Chase on where I would

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Speaker 1: start Chasing. Probably i'd actually start. I might start him

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Speaker 1: as Sam linebacker, That's what I'm starting, and then put

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Speaker 1: him down on a Russia. That's what that's why think

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Speaker 1: they'll end up doing. And then the other one would

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Speaker 1: be the safety where Thomas might when one of those

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Speaker 1: he might win a job there well, safe is gonna

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Speaker 1: be interesting. Could Ronnie Harrison like where's like? I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: wing uh winger wing guard also back there and Jones.

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Speaker 1: That's an interesting one to me is what happens to

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Speaker 1: Ronnie Harrison back there? I mean, we assumed he'd be

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Speaker 1: the starter, but will he be That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I think Thomas could beat him out. That would give

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Speaker 1: you said, Okay, let you say you argue with me

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Speaker 1: on Colin Johnson, but if Colin Johnson you take him

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Speaker 1: out of the equation. I still think there's a chance

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Speaker 1: that it could be six. And I don't think the

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Speaker 1: rookie what's the word. I can't Robinson. I don't think.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he'll be the starting running back. I

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01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 1: think they're gonna go with Chris Stompson, a rotation by

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Speaker 1: almost to by committee. It could change week to week

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Speaker 1: depending on the that's fair, Okay, fine, I'll give you

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Speaker 1: six ft yeah, and then and then you'll and then

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Speaker 1: tell me how right I was about Colin Johnson being

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Speaker 1: in the rotation. I'll give you six. But it goes

1181
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 1: to the bigger question. So let's say you have six rookies,

1182
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 1: then you have Josh Allen second year player. You have

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01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 1: Juwan Taylor second year player. Um, uh year player charts

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01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 1: the third year players. I mean you start going like, what,

1185
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 1: what's Westbrook? Four? Yes? Yes, well I think I mean

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01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 1: that's their thing. You look at the receiver position. Could

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01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 1: Westbrook end up being the odd man out? Well, I

1188
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 1: know he hasn't been on the field a lot lately.

1189
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 1: He's got the shoulder. He's going week to week, I know.

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Speaker 1: But they like the god they like the what the

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01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 1: Godwin or Goodwin? He'll be a practice He'll be a

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Speaker 1: practice squad guy. And then then then don't you go

1193
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 1: to the defense. David Bryant's only just what third year? Yep? Um,

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01:05:56,920 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 1: Hamilton's rookie, you know, I mean Miles Jackson vetter, but

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01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 1: he was he four five what is he now? Five?

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Speaker 1: Five year? Yeah? I mean it wasn't a full time

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01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 1: starter a lot of those years. Either. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of kids on this roster. It's a young team, which

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Speaker 1: is why particularly I think they're gonna get beat up

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Speaker 1: a little bit early in the season. Although they might

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01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 1: win on opening Day? How about that? Do you think

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01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna beat the Colts? They might want to lock

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01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 1: it do you think they're gonna win? I'm not. I'm

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01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 1: not too early to lock it. There's only one games

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Speaker 1: on here. Think they'll beat the cold. They have a

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Speaker 1: legitimate chance. Yes, you have a chance every week, Pete.

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Speaker 1: What are you talking about. That's the worst heat, the

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Speaker 1: heat on September Day. Colts haven't experienced that. Yeah, I

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01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 1: think they have it. They can. I'll tell you what

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Speaker 1: I know they can. I don't think they can't blown out.

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Speaker 1: You've gone from I think they can. You know you

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Speaker 1: went to they can win? Well, I think they can. Well,

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Speaker 1: they won't get blown out. What is it, Pete? I

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Speaker 1: mean you bounce a round the three? It's too early

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Speaker 1: to make a pick. Next week I'll make the pick.

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Speaker 1: Have you done your whole so I'm not doing it.

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Speaker 1: They didn't want me. I wouldn't do it this year

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Speaker 1: because of the schedule. Week They weren't sure. That's week

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Speaker 1: week week sauce. Well, if it does and you don't

1220
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Speaker 1: have this to go great, that's terrible. You know why?

1221
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Speaker 1: You want to know why? They told him not to

1222
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Speaker 1: do any more JP because he was so bad last

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Speaker 1: year at his picks. They said, Pete, don't do it again.

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Speaker 1: You lose credibility. You know what, though, if I actually

1225
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Speaker 1: went back and looked at my picks when I did that,

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Speaker 1: compared to the picks I do on a weekly basis,

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Speaker 1: I'd probably be better before the season. I had a

1228
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 1: bad year picking games last year, so you know we

1229
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Speaker 1: need you know that somebody else on this show. By

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Speaker 1: the way, I was that October guaranteed the playoffs. J Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think I think I remember that I had. It's

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Speaker 1: going to Are you gonna do that this year too? Um? Well,

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Speaker 1: I have to wait and see. Oh my gosh, wait

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Speaker 1: and see you you don't believe that. I don't believe

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Speaker 1: what that they have any chance to go to the

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Speaker 1: post either. Yeah, they have a chance. Everyone has a

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Speaker 1: chance right now, but okay, legitimate chance. I mean, we

1238
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Speaker 1: have a chance of getting struck by lightning tomorrow afternoon too,

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01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 1: but it's probably not gonna happen. Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: If I do, I'll be inside, so it'll be tough

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Speaker 1: to get me stuck by lightning. You're gonna be in

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Speaker 1: a plane soon. Um yeah, No. I mean it's a

1243
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 1: young team. And that goes back to what I said

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Speaker 1: about practice. That's why I'm surprised they were in camp

1245
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 1: the way they did, as young as they are. I

1246
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 1: mean you had second year players getting maintenance days days

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Speaker 1: off basically. Um, And that's just I mean what you

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01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 1: just said, Pete. The youth of this team, the experience

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Speaker 1: of this team, new coachings that I mean, new offensive

1250
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:59,679
Speaker 1: coordinator on this team, Um, young quarterback. We even mentioned

1251
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 1: that the quarterbacks to be a second guar player as well. Um,

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01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 1: that's why, just the philosophy they took. And maybe it

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01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 1: don't work out, and I hope it does. Gosh, I

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01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 1: hope they come out and kill it. They're so fresh,

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01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 1: they kill everybody. But it's it's gonna be an attractive

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01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 1: job for somebody if they do make changes, though, because

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Speaker 1: of all the draft picks and the money they have,

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Speaker 1: we're already going there, Pete. You couldn't wait until at

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01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 1: least like no, I'm saying if Okay, let's it's if

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01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 1: they win seven games. It's an attractive job for the

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01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 1: guys who were there. Yeah, it's only it's only attractive

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01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 1: if you pick the right guys. But it's only attractive

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01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 1: if Gardner Minsho is any good. Yeah. Yeah, another question.

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01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 1: We we mentioned some of those rookies. Is there any

1265
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 1: I mean, Mensho is the guy obviously, but you know,

1266
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:54,680
Speaker 1: is there a point like in this season and for

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01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 1: some reason then she's not playing well? Like you, there's

1268
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 1: that run last year where he wasn't playing great. Is

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01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 1: there any chance that they put another one of these

1270
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 1: guys in Lennon or even Looten, another rookie. Is there

1271
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 1: a chance? There's always a chance, But I think they're

1272
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 1: gonna go with Gardens Gardener until the wheels fall off completely.

1273
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 1: Like it's not gonna be, Hey, we gotta loose lub

1274
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 1: Nut here and or we lost one tire, They're going

1275
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 1: to lose all four tires of this thing. For Gardener,

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01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 1: this is his year. This is his year. They got

1277
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 1: to find out what he is, who he is. The

1278
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:33,759
Speaker 1: worst case scenario for them will be if he doesn't

1279
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:35,759
Speaker 1: prove he can be the long term answer and somehow

1280
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 1: they still win four or five games and don't get

1281
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:40,879
Speaker 1: the number one overall time. That's the worst case scenario.

1282
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 1: If if they find out he's good and he's gonna

1283
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 1: be the long term answer and you win four or

1284
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 1: five games, that's okay. If you find out he's not good,

1285
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 1: you win four or five games. That's not okay because

1286
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 1: that means you're not gonna be taking first. You don't

1287
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:55,640
Speaker 1: get Trevor Lawrence. So do you think he's the long

1288
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 1: term answer? Pete? And you're I have I'll be honest

1289
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:00,679
Speaker 1: with you, Tony, you have to go back and watching

1290
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 1: even more of them. I still don't know, and I

1291
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 1: don't think they know, because how can you judge him

1292
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 1: based on what he did last year? All those plays

1293
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 1: where he got out of the pocket and scrambled around

1294
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 1: and made plays. It's all exciting and stuff, but you

1295
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 1: know how I think about the quarterback position. You gotta

1296
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 1: go one, two, three, four and check down, not one

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01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:20,640
Speaker 1: to get out and go make a play. So I

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01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 1: do think he's got a potential. You guys have been

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01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 1: around there more than I have this summer, you know,

1300
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 1: and I've heard nothing but really good positive things about him.

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01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 1: We haven't been around there. I've been. And you go

1302
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 1: to practice. All those other guys go to practice. Pry

1303
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 1: goes to practice training cramp practice. So you went. You

1304
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 1: meant over the summer off season, JP, you can't get

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01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 1: out of your house and go to training camp practice? Yeah? Everyone, Okay,

1306
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 1: So how does he look at training camp practice the

1307
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 1: times has looked like where he looked like last year.

1308
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 1: That you know, he's still trying to work in that

1309
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 1: arm strength a little bit from time to time. So

1310
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 1: that's always to me, that's always gonna be an issue. Yeah,

1311
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 1: it's I he knows that. He said he's never gonna

1312
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 1: have a plus arm in this league. He said that

1313
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 1: the other week, but didn't it stand out And maybe

1314
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:16,640
Speaker 1: it was just me a little bit more and the

1315
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 1: scrimmage didn't look like it just I mean, he's got

1316
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 1: to be clean to make the throws that he has

1317
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 1: to make. If he's got to throw a little bit off,

1318
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 1: you know, you've been around you know, guys, don't you

1319
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:32,560
Speaker 1: grew up watching Elway. If el Way was off just

1320
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 1: a little bit or whatever with that, I mean, you

1321
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 1: can still make the throws. Um, I think he's got

1322
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:39,640
Speaker 1: to be clean in the pocket to be able to

1323
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 1: make the throw. He's gotta be able to step the throw,

1324
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 1: and I don't know if he's capable of doing that.

1325
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 1: So Pete, would he be like, is he like a

1326
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 1: Chad Pennington who super smart recognizing stuff but just can't Yes,

1327
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 1: great competitor, Yes, that's a great, that's a great comparison.

1328
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 1: And Chad anything went to the championship game. Remember, I

1329
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 1: mean he took took the Jets the couple of one

1330
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 1: championship game. That's that might be one of your best

1331
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 1: comparisons you've ever made on here, because that's exactly who

1332
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 1: he might be. Chad, Chad Pennington and Jadon nice career

1333
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 1: and Okay, but if he's Chad Pennington, then you're still

1334
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 1: not gonna go down Lawrence. You're playing with him? Yeah, Um, well,

1335
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 1: would you say, Pete Chad Pennington maxed out his ability? Yes,

1336
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 1: and they didn't get your super Bowl? Right, So that's

1337
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's almost like if he plays well

1338
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 1: and they win a couple of games, plays well and

1339
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 1: not really good see for me. You gotta again. I

1340
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:43,680
Speaker 1: said this on Frandy Show. If he went for two touchdowns,

1341
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:49,800
Speaker 1: what's the record? Yeah, I mean how much? How much

1342
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,560
Speaker 1: is the defense coming up? That's a big that's a

1343
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 1: big number for any quarterback. Thought, DeShawn Way, They're they're

1344
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:58,599
Speaker 1: winning at least six. If he does that, Okay, then

1345
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:00,719
Speaker 1: that then then you have this eye at that moment

1346
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 1: that he's your guy. Long terment. I mean Deshaun Watson

1347
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 1: as a thrown from over twenty six stud ump passes

1348
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 1: in any season. Think about that. It's true. So thirty

1349
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:17,600
Speaker 1: two or thirty thirty one, if heards, you'd have to

1350
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 1: think he was your guy, right, Yeah, Yeah, I think

1351
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 1: you're right, especially the second year player. Man. I think

1352
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 1: a lot of it's when he does it to Pete.

1353
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:29,640
Speaker 1: You know, you don't want to get those yards, like

1354
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 1: we're getting beat by fifty and the whole second half

1355
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 1: he's thrown at forty times a game from a few

1356
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 1: years ago. Yeah, like just gets a little employed and

1357
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 1: you're like, this isn't real. Um, yeah, you're probably right,

1358
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 1: you gotta it's hard to see how the numbers are.

1359
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 1: But again, though, if he if he if they win

1360
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 1: six games and they don't decide he's the long term answer,

1361
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 1: that's the worst case scenario. The worst case because then

1362
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get large, you're probably not gonna get field,

1363
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 1: you probably won't even get trade Land the kid out

1364
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:04,839
Speaker 1: of North dakost state. So that's the worst case scenario.

1365
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,720
Speaker 1: Six and not having him as the long term guy.

1366
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 1: One of deciding he's not the long term guy could

1367
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 1: be the best case scenario. You don't want that, but

1368
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,600
Speaker 1: that could be the best case scenario. Well, if you

1369
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 1: know he's not the long term guy, you want to win?

1370
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 1: Zero games is what you want to win? Well, Tank,

1371
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 1: you don't take. I'm not saying you take no. Listen,

1372
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:29,720
Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna do what Pete has masterfully done. Is

1373
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 1: I'm separating the two. And I've never been able to

1374
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 1: do this because as a player, you always want to

1375
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:35,720
Speaker 1: win and compete in every game. But if I sit

1376
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 1: back right now and say, Okay, if I had to

1377
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 1: choose winning four games and having the third pick or

1378
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 1: zero games and having the first pick, I'll take zero

1379
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 1: because I'm getting Trevor Lawrence. I'm getting the best player

1380
01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:59,720
Speaker 1: in the draft. All Right, here's a question for you.

1381
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 1: If it's four winds or zero wins, if our David

1382
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 1: Doug back to even make that decision, Oh, I don't think.

1383
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I mean, I'm not I'm

1384
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 1: not saying them. I'm saying me as I'm looking at

1385
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 1: the organization I'm I am actually putting on and I'm

1386
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 1: saying as I love this organization, as you know, and

1387
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 1: I want this thing to win. I want to I

1388
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 1: want to watch Don con hold the Lombardi Trophy, and

1389
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:31,680
Speaker 1: I want to like I want to be in the

1390
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 1: radio booth calling it, and I want to go on

1391
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 1: the field and high five my friends, and like that

1392
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 1: would be like important to me. Someone who's been a

1393
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 1: part of this organization from the beginning, even though I

1394
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 1: have very little to do it um in the current

1395
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:44,600
Speaker 1: role of being radio like we have very little do

1396
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 1: with anything, but it'll be fun, it will be important

1397
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 1: to me. Is someone who loves this organization, loves Jacksonville.

1398
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 1: And so if you're asking me, like I want one

1399
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 1: or two things to happen this year, I want to

1400
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 1: win seven, eight, nine, whatever, win the whole thing. And no,

1401
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 1: that Gardner Minshew is the guy, like he is on

1402
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 1: the pathway to be in you know, a top ten

1403
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 1: quarterback in this league, and like this is the guy

1404
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna build with instead of Chad Pennington, he becomes

1405
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 1: Drew Brees whatever it is, Like he's the guy we're

1406
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 1: gonna build around. And we know that for the next

1407
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 1: ten years we have our guys, we're gonna build them

1408
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 1: around with. That's one or I want to win zero

1409
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:25,599
Speaker 1: games and I want Trevor Lawrence or best case scenario

1410
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 1: the Rams win no games. The best case, here's what

1411
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 1: I really like. The better is to win the super Bowl.

1412
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 1: The Rams lose every game, and then we have a

1413
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:37,560
Speaker 1: really hard choice to make, because what do we do

1414
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 1: with the first pick overall um of the draft. Could

1415
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 1: you imagine if Gardner meant you let him to the

1416
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 1: super Bowl victory and the greatest, one of the most

1417
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:48,720
Speaker 1: amazing seasons ever, and they had the first pick and

1418
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 1: Tonty sit there banging the table draft Trevor, I would

1419
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:55,680
Speaker 1: do that. There's other good players. You trade it. What

1420
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 1: you do then is you trade it for a whole

1421
01:17:57,520 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 1: hall of picks, and then you have like four for

1422
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 1: round and he can get revisited, get another Luke Joke

1423
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:09,679
Speaker 1: or another Justice Black. But you don't know I'm actually

1424
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 1: taking p I'm not actually stepping back and saying, like

1425
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 1: take the player side of it, the coaching side out

1426
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 1: of it, like look at the big picture, Like I

1427
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 1: want it's time this organization be relevant year in, year out.

1428
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:23,760
Speaker 1: It's time for this organization not to be the story

1429
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 1: of the biggest story of being what you know, first

1430
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 1: round pick. We lost that left and they want to

1431
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 1: be a part of this organization right comes with the

1432
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 1: quarterback position. You gotta have the quarterback position solidified. And

1433
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 1: so if that means we have to lose every game,

1434
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 1: because I'm now I'm saying, if Gardner Minshew isn't the

1435
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 1: guy to lose every game and go get the guy.

1436
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:46,800
Speaker 1: I wore him down JP. Finally years I warmed down.

1437
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 1: He's come over to Mike the dark side. It's just

1438
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 1: true now it's I don't want to lose every game.

1439
01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 1: I'm much rather you know, have this, you know, six

1440
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:58,599
Speaker 1: to nine or ten wins whatever, then gardeners the guy

1441
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 1: and we can build around it and the ram stink

1442
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 1: and we get more picks there whatever. It looks like

1443
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 1: like that's more proverble to me because I want to win.

1444
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:09,560
Speaker 1: But bottom line is, you gotta get a quarterback, and

1445
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:12,760
Speaker 1: you gotta get You've got a chance to get that guy.

1446
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 1: You get that guy. Yeah, let's come back in a moment.

1447
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 1: We'll get into some social questions. I know you guys,

1448
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:27,000
Speaker 1: I love those, And boy, do we have something today

1449
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 1: with everything that happened over the last couple of days

1450
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 1: around here, we don't do phone calls. We gotta try

1451
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:38,640
Speaker 1: to work on that at some point, we'll get the

1452
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 1: social questions, so when we come back, it's Jaguars Happy

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Speaker 1: Let you're along with us this after doon, Big news

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01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 1: today of course Leonard for that waived and you you

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01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:25,639
Speaker 1: can got quite traded. So people have questions about these things,

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01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:27,640
Speaker 1: and so we go to social media. But before we

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01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 1: go there to the Pete You're all over you to day,

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01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:33,479
Speaker 1: I put a tweet out saying, Hey, coming up at

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Speaker 1: four o'clock, it's the show with you two guys, and

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01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 1: you know, here's where you can find it. Here's what

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01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 1: we're talking about. And I get a response saying that

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01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:45,680
Speaker 1: there's no patience for Frisco the weasel today? What what

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01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 1: what is that about? And then Jimmy talked around about it.

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01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 1: That's something to me on there, well, because I knew

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01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:55,720
Speaker 1: you'd come back and ask me why. I don't know

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01:23:55,760 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 1: where that came from one of those many many fans. Yeah,

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01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:02,839
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't think of you as a weasel,

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01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 1: but why do some people do. I don't know. I

1527
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:08,960
Speaker 1: don't know. It is what it is. I can handle it.

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01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 1: If Dad have said that to you, you've blocked him. Probably,

1529
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 1: I don't block anybody anymore. Why not I just I

1530
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 1: don't tell my block m I just block him. You

1531
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:23,360
Speaker 1: used to make a big dramatic and you're blocked kind

1532
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 1: of deal. Twitter has become like a little bit of assessment,

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01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:30,640
Speaker 1: a little bit really. Yeah, I'm not a fan of

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01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 1: Twitter right now. I gotta be honest with you. No before,

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01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not. I'm not leaving Twitter, just like

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01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 1: it ebbs and flows with me. Sometimes it just gets

1537
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 1: to be a lot. Yeah, I agree, never end. So

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01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:49,760
Speaker 1: let's go to it now and start off with a

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01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:54,720
Speaker 1: team and underscore why now, why didn't we do this

1540
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:56,760
Speaker 1: head again to the offseason and give him a chance

1541
01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 1: to find somewhere else? Why did we hang on for

1542
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 1: so long in this offseason that this was coming? And

1543
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:06,599
Speaker 1: I'm guessing he's discussing for net toning because they were

1544
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 1: trying to maximize and trying to get the pick. They

1545
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 1: thought maybe if they held out that someone will get hurt,

1546
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:13,519
Speaker 1: a team would have a need for the running back position.

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01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:18,240
Speaker 1: And they're trying to maximize the value, uh and create

1548
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 1: something get some sort of return back, and they couldn't

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01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:23,840
Speaker 1: and they got will put the best case scenario for

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01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:26,760
Speaker 1: in terms of getting something back. What were you gonna

1551
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 1: get back for you know, my point is, you know,

1552
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 1: maybe if a team gets they're starting running back hurt,

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01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 1: they have a big need or something like that, maybe

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01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 1: get a fifth round or at least they could get nothing.

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01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 1: And so they just said that finally the two weeks left,

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01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 1: they're gonna start. The reason they did it now is

1557
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 1: because they're gonna start game planning for the Colts. And

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01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:46,599
Speaker 1: so why included guy you're not gonna use in the game.

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01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 1: And that's that's it. It's not they didn't think he

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01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 1: was a fit for what they wanted to do that

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01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 1: would have something to do with the two and he

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01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 1: was the ability wasn't worth the pay. That's basically what

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01:25:57,080 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 1: it came down. And and if he's not going to

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01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:02,040
Speaker 1: mean that, if he's not gonna be the featured guy,

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01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:04,599
Speaker 1: I think there was a fear. What kind of guy

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01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 1: would he be in the locker room if he's not

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01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:08,639
Speaker 1: getting the ball five times a game? Well, he wasn't

1568
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 1: a great guy in the locker room when he was

1569
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 1: getting the ball a game. Again, that's why I asked

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01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 1: the question. Question number two is from Jacob Reinhardt too.

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01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:24,080
Speaker 1: Do you think it's a legitimate question to wonder if

1572
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 1: this team is tanking for Trevor Lawrence. I don't think

1573
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:28,960
Speaker 1: you try. I don't think you tank in the NFL,

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01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 1: and I don't think it works. Um, everyone thought that

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01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 1: Dolphins were taking last year and they ended up winning

1576
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:38,520
Speaker 1: like four or five games. Um, it just it's impossible.

1577
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 1: This isn't the NBA where you just put a bunch

1578
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:42,760
Speaker 1: of guys out there run around and nobody's gonna get

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01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 1: hurt or anything else. This is the football. If you

1580
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 1: try to tank, people get hurt. And you have a

1581
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 1: bunch of guys out there that are gonna fight and

1582
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 1: kick and scratch and claw and do everything they can,

1583
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 1: and you have coaches that are fighting for their jobs. That, um,

1584
01:26:57,080 --> 01:26:58,880
Speaker 1: the way the game of football works. You're gonna win

1585
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:00,760
Speaker 1: a couple of just I mean, now you might lose

1586
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 1: them all. We've seen that. It's a rarity. But I

1587
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:05,479
Speaker 1: think it's too hard to try to take. Guys are

1588
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 1: too competitive. Well, you know what you do, Start looting

1589
01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:13,599
Speaker 1: by October one, Start three more rookies than the ones

1590
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:19,680
Speaker 1: I said, and then you'll be taking. Okay, I mean

1591
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 1: the point is this Tony's points. Because you take, then

1592
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:28,679
Speaker 1: that guy's gonna take your job. That's how that works.

1593
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 1: So taking is not a real thing, and it's hard

1594
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:33,599
Speaker 1: to lose every game, and no matter how bad you are,

1595
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 1: it's only happened twice, right league history? That right? I

1596
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:41,479
Speaker 1: mean the Bucks and the Lions boat did it? Yeah Brown,

1597
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 1: that's right, Yeah, so three times? Arch with tal has

1598
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:51,639
Speaker 1: next question, do you think after the final game last season,

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01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 1: the front office believes that the Jags offense is better

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01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:57,479
Speaker 1: when not centering around? And do you think the offense

1601
01:27:57,600 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 1: is better slash, more diverse or explosive without Well, they do,

1602
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. They think it's better without him,

1603
01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:10,040
Speaker 1: otherwise he'd be here if they thought maybe better with seven.

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01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 1: I agree with Pete. I think the style play they

1605
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:15,719
Speaker 1: wanted to do one back Gardner Minshoo's better at the shotgun,

1606
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 1: which is more zone scheme stuff, and uh I don't

1607
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:21,000
Speaker 1: think they felt like that was the perfect fit for

1608
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 1: Leonard for net and j Gruden came in the offense

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01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 1: that he wants to run, probably spread you out a

1610
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 1: little bit more. They want to play in space, and

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01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 1: uh so I think they feel like they're a better

1612
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:34,680
Speaker 1: team without Leonard for Nette. Now it might be hard

1613
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:36,719
Speaker 1: for the fan base and people and the national media

1614
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 1: to say, you know, that makes no sense. Um but

1615
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 1: I think you can make a pretty strong case to

1616
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:44,599
Speaker 1: be watching tape and kind of how they want to play. Well. Also,

1617
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 1: remember he didn't play in Week seventeen last year, and

1618
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 1: they seem to be okay without them. It didn't. In fact,

1619
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:56,599
Speaker 1: the times Armstead one, Armstead looked to be a better runner.

1620
01:28:57,560 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 1: Um so, and I again, somebody said to me that

1621
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:03,719
Speaker 1: he's trimmed down. He looks quicker Farmstead. Is that true?

1622
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:09,320
Speaker 1: Uh not? No, small to me? Okay, but again, not

1623
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 1: having him in week seventeen didn't They didn't miss him

1624
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 1: to beat a bit. I didn't think, well they won. Well,

1625
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 1: that's not necessarily his fault that they don't win games.

1626
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:21,719
Speaker 1: I didn't say that. My point is they were productive

1627
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 1: moving the ball offensively Armstead zigba and zigbu or zigbaigbo.

1628
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:31,400
Speaker 1: He didn't have me. He didn't have it right on

1629
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:36,439
Speaker 1: either one of those over What did that? You had

1630
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:39,720
Speaker 1: the A and the U? How did you How did

1631
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:41,600
Speaker 1: you say the backup left tackle last year? How do

1632
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 1: you say his name? Who the stiff? Uh? Oh no,

1633
01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:59,240
Speaker 1: it's not try again, No, the stiff. It's I already

1634
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 1: gave him that who final questions from a Jay McMahon,

1635
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:08,240
Speaker 1: given all the offseason moves he and got way trade

1636
01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:10,840
Speaker 1: and for Net being waves, do you all believe Shad

1637
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:17,599
Speaker 1: Khan is giving this regime and season to see this through? Yeah?

1638
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:24,479
Speaker 1: I don't no, which is why it's much more curious

1639
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:27,400
Speaker 1: as to why they did it. But again, you had

1640
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 1: to do it. I understand it, but you would think Again,

1641
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:34,200
Speaker 1: it's a football decision, it's not any other decision. They

1642
01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 1: felt that the Gather guys were better for what they

1643
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 1: wanted to do, So I think, yeah, I think Doug, I,

1644
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:41,720
Speaker 1: I Dug in the staff feel like they have a

1645
01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:44,040
Speaker 1: better chance of winning games with the without letter for

1646
01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:47,639
Speaker 1: net back there. Whether they're right or wrong, that's debatable.

1647
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:54,920
Speaker 1: I think that's what they think. Hmm. So here's the

1648
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:57,519
Speaker 1: question that we talked about this before. What's it take

1649
01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:04,280
Speaker 1: to ensure that they're around than? I think that's hard.

1650
01:31:05,439 --> 01:31:08,280
Speaker 1: And again I'll ride the fence like all ride the

1651
01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:10,640
Speaker 1: fence like pet did last week. I think it's how

1652
01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:14,240
Speaker 1: does it look like? Is it they win six? Is

1653
01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:16,920
Speaker 1: it like they're getting better throughout the year and they're

1654
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 1: peaking at the end and they end up winning. They

1655
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:23,760
Speaker 1: go uh two and h two and six the first half,

1656
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:25,639
Speaker 1: but they go forward for the second half and beat

1657
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:28,560
Speaker 1: some good teams and there and they know they go

1658
01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:31,040
Speaker 1: forward and four at the end and to those four

1659
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:34,360
Speaker 1: losses are last second field goal, you know, last second drive.

1660
01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:37,400
Speaker 1: So it's like they are one of the they're competitive,

1661
01:31:37,479 --> 01:31:40,800
Speaker 1: they're you know, they got the quarterback going. Um. That

1662
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:43,280
Speaker 1: feels a lot different if they win six games but

1663
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 1: they get blown out in the other ten and they

1664
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:47,560
Speaker 1: were lucky to win three of those six. Can you

1665
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 1: think about last year? I think about last year? They're

1666
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:55,240
Speaker 1: six and ten? Right were there? Were there five and eleven?

1667
01:31:55,320 --> 01:31:57,240
Speaker 1: Last year? What were they five? Six? Then? I can't

1668
01:31:57,240 --> 01:32:04,200
Speaker 1: remember remember they were? They won five okay five games.

1669
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:09,160
Speaker 1: So if those eleven losses that they had, were there

1670
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:11,800
Speaker 1: any of those eleven games that they lost where you're like, boy,

1671
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:13,800
Speaker 1: they had a chance they should have won that game

1672
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Speaker 1: because I did this, And the answer is now there

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01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:21,439
Speaker 1: was six and ten? Yeah, those four, Yeah, those ten

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01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:23,960
Speaker 1: losses they had, there wasn't any of those ten that

1675
01:32:24,040 --> 01:32:26,360
Speaker 1: you're like, wow, they should have won that game, like

1676
01:32:26,479 --> 01:32:30,360
Speaker 1: they were like it was never like never in doubt.

1677
01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:33,560
Speaker 1: If you look at the six wins they had, like

1678
01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:36,080
Speaker 1: you could easily they like the Denver game, it took

1679
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:39,200
Speaker 1: a miraculous crazy play by Minshew. They had like at

1680
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:43,599
Speaker 1: the end, come back and like amazing. The Raider game,

1681
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:45,880
Speaker 1: they had no business. I mean, if the official just

1682
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:48,559
Speaker 1: doesn't mess up the call when he slides out of bound,

1683
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:51,760
Speaker 1: the game's over literally like and you can like go

1684
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:53,840
Speaker 1: through it. So like it didn't. It felt like, boy,

1685
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:56,800
Speaker 1: they were lucky to get six. Now when you go

1686
01:32:56,920 --> 01:32:59,720
Speaker 1: back to your like nineties six season, when you could

1687
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:01,519
Speaker 1: do that with every single game, there's something you should

1688
01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 1: have won, many you should have lost. No, I agree that,

1689
01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:07,080
Speaker 1: but that's how most teams are. You're missing my point

1690
01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:09,559
Speaker 1: of the ten. Tell me one they should have won,

1691
01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:13,040
Speaker 1: That's my point. There weren't any. They were all like

1692
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:16,840
Speaker 1: sound defeats. So if all of a sudden, you end

1693
01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:18,479
Speaker 1: up six and ten this year and like you should

1694
01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:20,160
Speaker 1: have won like four of those and you just couldn't

1695
01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:23,960
Speaker 1: finish and you finished strong, then they stay. Then they stay.

1696
01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 1: They I think they have a chance. I really do

1697
01:33:26,160 --> 01:33:29,080
Speaker 1: think it takes eight wins for them to stay. Um

1698
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:31,519
Speaker 1: it's my gut, but I mean, but I could see

1699
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:33,639
Speaker 1: a case being made. If they win six the right way,

1700
01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:38,040
Speaker 1: that maybe you bring them back. I think they got

1701
01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:44,719
Speaker 1: to get to eight for sure. We'll find out Tony's

1702
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:52,000
Speaker 1: already guaranteed eight, nine or ten. Remember do they have

1703
01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 1: like what would the chances of them get into eleven?

1704
01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:59,840
Speaker 1: B right now? Just give me like one in so

1705
01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:07,880
Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, I'm not gonna say, well, whatever

1706
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:10,120
Speaker 1: you want to know according to Pete, So that's one.

1707
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:12,559
Speaker 1: I'm trying to trap him so that by the end

1708
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:17,400
Speaker 1: of the year we get have Tony said eleven, we'll

1709
01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 1: go in ninety six. You guys stunk and you won

1710
01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:24,320
Speaker 1: nine games that got hot at the right time. Yeah,

1711
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:28,160
Speaker 1: he's not even paid attention anymore because I don't want

1712
01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:34,800
Speaker 1: to get trapped. We're back headline, don't we another headline? JP?

1713
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:38,640
Speaker 1: Like last year? Stay off, We've got thirty minutes to

1714
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:40,720
Speaker 1: find one. We'll go around the NFC South. When we

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Speaker 1: A a bank field where it was a little rain earlier. Today,

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Speaker 1: First day of in season reporting feet so we got

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Speaker 1: to see only stretch and individual drills today that's it.

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Speaker 1: And then now you only get twenty minutes to figure

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Speaker 1: out that's not what you can't figure out, right, And

1779
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Speaker 1: it's crazy. You know, it's been the weirdest summer for football.

1780
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:52,720
Speaker 1: Has it felt like it? And we saw there was

1781
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:56,080
Speaker 1: a college games Saturday night, there was some high school

1782
01:38:56,160 --> 01:38:58,040
Speaker 1: games on, so you're starting to feel a little bit

1783
01:38:58,120 --> 01:39:01,439
Speaker 1: of it, But no pre season as it felt like it,

1784
01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:04,400
Speaker 1: you know, no training camp tour for me, you guys,

1785
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:10,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just weird situation and and I don't know,

1786
01:39:10,400 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 1: it just hasn't felt like football season yet for me.

1787
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:15,679
Speaker 1: Has it felt that way to you know, it hasn't.

1788
01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:18,639
Speaker 1: I mean the training camp practice has helped a little

1789
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:20,880
Speaker 1: bit for me, just because everything had been done here

1790
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:23,320
Speaker 1: at the house until then. And then finally to go

1791
01:39:23,479 --> 01:39:27,280
Speaker 1: on the field and actually see football things happening, which

1792
01:39:27,400 --> 01:39:30,479
Speaker 1: was a good step in the right direction. But no,

1793
01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:34,920
Speaker 1: you're right. Until there's actual regular games on television, I

1794
01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:39,479
Speaker 1: don't think it'll feel close to that. So, um, you know,

1795
01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:41,360
Speaker 1: we had that college game was an FCS game that

1796
01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:45,479
Speaker 1: wasn't an FBS a big time college football game, So

1797
01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:48,439
Speaker 1: you haven't even seen the big boys in college football

1798
01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:50,280
Speaker 1: out there yet either you won't for the next couple

1799
01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:52,960
Speaker 1: of weeks. So we get something definite, I will get real,

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01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:56,320
Speaker 1: you know that. Right. We get some college football this weekend,

1801
01:39:56,360 --> 01:39:59,880
Speaker 1: which is good. Yeah, it's positive to step in the

1802
01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:02,800
Speaker 1: right direction. We'll take it. I still can't believe the

1803
01:40:02,840 --> 01:40:05,280
Speaker 1: big ten in the pack twelve our play and that's ridiculous,

1804
01:40:06,439 --> 01:40:08,960
Speaker 1: you know. Now there's the talk that they were discussing

1805
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:13,920
Speaker 1: starting after around Thanksgiving instead now, um, but I don't

1806
01:40:13,960 --> 01:40:17,240
Speaker 1: know where that all ended up. So um, you know,

1807
01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:20,160
Speaker 1: and we'll still see you know, the SEC is what

1808
01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:24,360
Speaker 1: the September is the first game that's that's a long

1809
01:40:24,439 --> 01:40:26,599
Speaker 1: way away. Still a lot of things canna happen good

1810
01:40:26,680 --> 01:40:29,400
Speaker 1: and bad between that, but it seems like it's trending

1811
01:40:29,439 --> 01:40:33,040
Speaker 1: in the right direction now, right right right? Sure? Um,

1812
01:40:33,160 --> 01:40:35,760
Speaker 1: So anyway, there you go. Let's go around the SEC

1813
01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:38,720
Speaker 1: south beat or waiting on Mr Basel to get back

1814
01:40:38,800 --> 01:40:41,519
Speaker 1: with us here. The Houston Texans agree to terms with

1815
01:40:41,640 --> 01:40:45,320
Speaker 1: that Cunningham linebacker. The new extension worth four team and

1816
01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:49,000
Speaker 1: a half million per year in new money average. That

1817
01:40:49,160 --> 01:40:52,320
Speaker 1: is a lot of money. Four years, fifty eight million dollars.

1818
01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:55,840
Speaker 1: He's a good player, though, one of those JP is

1819
01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:58,120
Speaker 1: one of those players that most fans have no idea about,

1820
01:40:58,280 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 1: and he's really good. He can run, he's athletic, he's tough.

1821
01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:05,519
Speaker 1: I think you know, that's a lot of money for

1822
01:41:05,560 --> 01:41:08,120
Speaker 1: an inside linebacker. But he's one of the better players

1823
01:41:08,160 --> 01:41:11,000
Speaker 1: on their defense now. And remember that's a defense that's

1824
01:41:11,040 --> 01:41:13,920
Speaker 1: in big time transition, So keeping him around made a

1825
01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:15,840
Speaker 1: lot of sense. I like that move. I think he's

1826
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:19,000
Speaker 1: a good player. Yeah, they have had so many changes

1827
01:41:19,080 --> 01:41:23,200
Speaker 1: around there over the last little time. He's what he

1828
01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:27,560
Speaker 1: would call on underrated player in the NFL. About that

1829
01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:32,160
Speaker 1: hunting him, That hunting Tony. Oh, we've we've lost Tony.

1830
01:41:32,280 --> 01:41:37,240
Speaker 1: He is now muted. That's not a bad thing with

1831
01:41:37,439 --> 01:41:44,479
Speaker 1: cells muted, right. Um, the question now he is who's

1832
01:41:44,520 --> 01:41:47,559
Speaker 1: next time? DeShawn Watson is really the next big guy. Yeah,

1833
01:41:47,920 --> 01:41:50,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna sign him. They're gonna give him a mega contract.

1834
01:41:50,240 --> 01:41:53,120
Speaker 1: It's just it's not gonna be Patrick ma Home. It's

1835
01:41:53,120 --> 01:41:57,519
Speaker 1: just not going to be. So here's a question for you. Sorry, exactly,

1836
01:41:57,560 --> 01:41:59,920
Speaker 1: I heard you, guys, I was talking, but I was muted.

1837
01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:01,960
Speaker 1: Then I hit the wrong button. It hung up on us.

1838
01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:07,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it's terrible. Um, exactly, he's a good player, Pete,

1839
01:42:07,120 --> 01:42:08,960
Speaker 1: that's a big deal. And you haven't taken care of

1840
01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:13,920
Speaker 1: de Shaun Watson yet. Um. And with what Mahomes put

1841
01:42:13,960 --> 01:42:16,280
Speaker 1: out there, which I would not pay Deshaun Watson that

1842
01:42:16,360 --> 01:42:19,280
Speaker 1: kind of money. He is not Patrick Mahomes. Um. But

1843
01:42:19,360 --> 01:42:22,320
Speaker 1: it's interesting. I was surprised they went that strong with Cunningham.

1844
01:42:22,800 --> 01:42:25,000
Speaker 1: But as you and I know, Pete and JP you

1845
01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:27,880
Speaker 1: know this as well. You always can find cat money,

1846
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:30,599
Speaker 1: Like how do the Chiefs pay everyone all this money?

1847
01:42:30,720 --> 01:42:33,360
Speaker 1: I mean you can find they're paying Kelsey, the Homes,

1848
01:42:33,479 --> 01:42:37,560
Speaker 1: Chris Jones, Harry Kill, you know, Fishers getting paid. The

1849
01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:40,840
Speaker 1: left tackle, Schwartz makes good money, the right tackle. I mean,

1850
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:44,799
Speaker 1: you always could find money. There's like there's more creative

1851
01:42:44,840 --> 01:42:48,840
Speaker 1: ways money. You know that he will. But what would

1852
01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:57,599
Speaker 1: you pay Watson somewhere thirty five? It's a lot of money, man.

1853
01:42:57,680 --> 01:43:01,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, I guess it's amazing. Now. The perception is

1854
01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:04,439
Speaker 1: he has never thrown more than twenty six touchdown pasts.

1855
01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:07,320
Speaker 1: This he that's incredible to me. And he won one

1856
01:43:07,760 --> 01:43:10,280
Speaker 1: playoff He's won one playoff game, and that's because the

1857
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:14,280
Speaker 1: Bills couldn't score against you and I. Pete, Yeah, they

1858
01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:16,280
Speaker 1: should have won that. They should have build Buffalo should

1859
01:43:16,280 --> 01:43:20,760
Speaker 1: have won that game too. I know. Let's get to

1860
01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:23,840
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Col's rookie safety Julian Blankman came off that

1861
01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:26,479
Speaker 1: don Football injury list healthy enough to practice. Now he

1862
01:43:26,520 --> 01:43:29,479
Speaker 1: tours a c L in December in the Pact World

1863
01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:32,639
Speaker 1: Championship Game. Now nine and a half months after the injury,

1864
01:43:32,680 --> 01:43:36,519
Speaker 1: what are they expecting out of him? Peak an Indy Well,

1865
01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:39,439
Speaker 1: I mean, you hope. You don't know a guy's coming

1866
01:43:39,520 --> 01:43:42,280
Speaker 1: off that injury, that's a big deal. I mean, you know,

1867
01:43:42,439 --> 01:43:44,080
Speaker 1: you don't know what kind of player he's gonna be,

1868
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:48,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, you're hoping you get the best out of him.

1869
01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:50,560
Speaker 1: But you know, Tony, when you come back out that

1870
01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:54,080
Speaker 1: kind of injury, you never know. Yeah, he's not gonna

1871
01:43:54,080 --> 01:43:55,920
Speaker 1: be right for a little bit. I mean, he'sn't taking

1872
01:43:56,000 --> 01:43:58,280
Speaker 1: time to get going, and you probably won't have the

1873
01:43:58,320 --> 01:44:00,400
Speaker 1: full picture of what he is maybe thought second half

1874
01:44:00,439 --> 01:44:04,400
Speaker 1: of this year or even next year. And then finally,

1875
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Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans are working out kickers, but Vic Beasley

1876
01:44:08,720 --> 01:44:11,040
Speaker 1: also reported the camp a week after it open and

1877
01:44:11,160 --> 01:44:16,040
Speaker 1: still hasn't practiced with the team. As we're moved into September, Pete,

1878
01:44:16,080 --> 01:44:18,160
Speaker 1: are you expecting? What are you expecting? How to Vic?

1879
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:21,800
Speaker 1: What's the story there? I don't know if he loves

1880
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:25,760
Speaker 1: the game, you know, so maybe he's just jaking it

1881
01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:28,000
Speaker 1: for a while. I don't know. You know, you know

1882
01:44:28,160 --> 01:44:30,240
Speaker 1: Tony you did games doing in Atlanta that does he

1883
01:44:30,360 --> 01:44:32,880
Speaker 1: love the game? I mean that was the book on him,

1884
01:44:32,920 --> 01:44:34,840
Speaker 1: that he wasn't one of those guys that loved the game.

1885
01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:37,120
Speaker 1: And so I don't know what's going on with him there.

1886
01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:41,000
Speaker 1: He's not that good. No, he's not that good. He's

1887
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:43,840
Speaker 1: a one trick pony. From the standpoint, he can run

1888
01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:50,599
Speaker 1: fast in a straight line around a deep an offensive tackle. Uh.

1889
01:44:50,680 --> 01:44:53,640
Speaker 1: Typically he beats tackles who aren't very good. Yeah, he

1890
01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:55,479
Speaker 1: led the league in sacks. He might be the worst

1891
01:44:55,760 --> 01:45:04,439
Speaker 1: league leader in sacks all time. Seriously, Wow, you have

1892
01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:06,920
Speaker 1: I look around the a f C South. What do

1893
01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:09,040
Speaker 1: you think about the Titans before we come back? I

1894
01:45:09,080 --> 01:45:12,120
Speaker 1: know we gotta go JP, But when I know you're

1895
01:45:12,120 --> 01:45:14,439
Speaker 1: not a big believer in the Titan, I actually changing

1896
01:45:14,520 --> 01:45:17,639
Speaker 1: my opinion. I think they'll be the second best team

1897
01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:22,559
Speaker 1: in the a f C South, um behind behind the Colts.

1898
01:45:23,120 --> 01:45:24,760
Speaker 1: They're gonna and I think they're gonna get one of

1899
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Speaker 1: the wild card spots. I don't know if they'll get

1900
01:45:27,080 --> 01:45:29,439
Speaker 1: a wild card spot, but they'll be in there. Typical three.

1901
01:45:29,840 --> 01:45:33,120
Speaker 1: There's three wild card spots this year. Peter one of them. Okay,

1902
01:45:33,240 --> 01:45:35,760
Speaker 1: the Broncos could get one of them. The Chargers could

1903
01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:39,320
Speaker 1: get one of them. The Steelers or Ravens could get

1904
01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:41,800
Speaker 1: one of them. The Chargers aren't getting Listen, I love

1905
01:45:41,920 --> 01:45:44,479
Speaker 1: I mean, the Chargers derwin James out their best. He's

1906
01:45:44,479 --> 01:45:46,559
Speaker 1: the best. He's the best player, by the way, He's

1907
01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:48,920
Speaker 1: better than Joey Bosa. Joey Bosa is a more important

1908
01:45:48,960 --> 01:45:51,519
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1909
01:45:51,640 --> 01:45:55,320
Speaker 1: best players on that team, James is a stun and

1910
01:45:55,840 --> 01:45:57,960
Speaker 1: New England could be a playoff team, right, the wild

1911
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Speaker 1: card team? Enough? All right, Jack says, let's not forget them,

1912
01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:09,880
Speaker 1: even though they might win the division. Though. We're back

1913
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Speaker 1: in a moment, we'll go around the rest of the

1914
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1915
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Speaker 1: Tony Boselli die Frisco. We continue our look around the

1973
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Speaker 1: National Football League. We started in the a f C South,

1974
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Speaker 1: but we go around the league now a little more.

1975
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Speaker 1: In the final moments here, Anthony Limb, So the Chargers

1976
01:50:22,040 --> 01:50:25,479
Speaker 1: are not looking at Earl Thomas. He should teams look

1977
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Speaker 1: in Earld Thomas. No, particularly teams that have a nice

1978
01:50:33,360 --> 01:50:35,519
Speaker 1: set group of guys. And the reason I say that

1979
01:50:35,720 --> 01:50:38,280
Speaker 1: is I think he's gonna rock the boat. I think

1980
01:50:38,320 --> 01:50:41,679
Speaker 1: he's a rock the boat teammate. He's uh, and he's

1981
01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:44,080
Speaker 1: not that good anymore. I mean he's thirty, he turns

1982
01:50:44,120 --> 01:50:46,840
Speaker 1: thirty two next year. I just don't think he's that

1983
01:50:46,920 --> 01:50:49,960
Speaker 1: good at it. So why go pay a guy like

1984
01:50:50,120 --> 01:50:52,160
Speaker 1: that when you know there's gonna be issues. If the

1985
01:50:52,240 --> 01:50:56,320
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens can't work you into their room, a well

1986
01:50:56,400 --> 01:50:59,240
Speaker 1: run organization and a good team, then you've got problems.

1987
01:51:00,920 --> 01:51:03,599
Speaker 1: Hard to argue that. There's not many things that Pete

1988
01:51:03,640 --> 01:51:07,479
Speaker 1: says really siscinctly and correctly the first time. But nailed

1989
01:51:07,520 --> 01:51:11,040
Speaker 1: that one. Pete, I always do bot On. It's like

1990
01:51:11,080 --> 01:51:14,559
Speaker 1: football law comes out of his mouth. Yeah, no one,

1991
01:51:14,720 --> 01:51:18,400
Speaker 1: no one would say that, But that's okay, football law.

1992
01:51:19,720 --> 01:51:23,439
Speaker 1: Um Alvin Kamara has missed three days now over his

1993
01:51:23,560 --> 01:51:27,719
Speaker 1: contract to New Orleans unexcused absences. According to the Saints,

1994
01:51:28,120 --> 01:51:30,720
Speaker 1: he's said to make only two point one million this

1995
01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:32,680
Speaker 1: year in the final year of his rookie deal. Will

1996
01:51:32,720 --> 01:51:35,800
Speaker 1: he get that deal? Pete? What are his options? I mean,

1997
01:51:35,840 --> 01:51:37,840
Speaker 1: what what's he gonna do? Sit out the season? He

1998
01:51:37,960 --> 01:51:40,080
Speaker 1: can't the way the current c B A as you

1999
01:51:40,160 --> 01:51:42,280
Speaker 1: can't sit out the season, So I mean you can,

2000
01:51:42,400 --> 01:51:45,200
Speaker 1: but it's a disaster, no way. But isn't he getting

2001
01:51:45,240 --> 01:51:48,240
Speaker 1: find big dollars right now to under the new Yeah? Yeah,

2002
01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:51,760
Speaker 1: they can't forget and they can't forgive it. Yeah, he's Uh,

2003
01:51:51,880 --> 01:51:55,040
Speaker 1: he's making a major mistake. It back in negotiate your deal.

2004
01:51:55,120 --> 01:51:57,880
Speaker 1: You'll get a new deal. You're a top running back again.

2005
01:51:57,960 --> 01:52:02,880
Speaker 1: Though if he's running back position, he's running back contracts,

2006
01:52:03,360 --> 01:52:06,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna get smaller and smaller. They're not gonna get bit.

2007
01:52:07,040 --> 01:52:09,920
Speaker 1: Isn't Dalbin Cook hold now too? Of Minnesota? He came back.

2008
01:52:10,520 --> 01:52:13,280
Speaker 1: But you know, then there's talk of Joe Mixon. Remember

2009
01:52:13,360 --> 01:52:16,479
Speaker 1: he's in his contract year two and he has my

2010
01:52:16,680 --> 01:52:19,240
Speaker 1: grains now. But I asked Zach Teller today about it.

2011
01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:21,720
Speaker 1: He said he's back and he'll be back. So these

2012
01:52:21,880 --> 01:52:23,479
Speaker 1: running backs they look around and lead. They say, hey,

2013
01:52:23,479 --> 01:52:25,240
Speaker 1: I only have so many earning years in my body.

2014
01:52:25,240 --> 01:52:27,560
Speaker 1: I get my money, and Christian McCaffrey got his, and

2015
01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:30,240
Speaker 1: they're all, you know, hoping to get the same thing. Yeah,

2016
01:52:30,320 --> 01:52:36,360
Speaker 1: but none of them are quite that good. Pretty really like,

2017
01:52:36,439 --> 01:52:39,240
Speaker 1: I like, if I was listening, guys, I'd pay McCaffrey's first,

2018
01:52:39,280 --> 01:52:40,680
Speaker 1: because what you can do as a receiver, I mean

2019
01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:43,920
Speaker 1: you can line them anywhere. Um. Camaro is probably second,

2020
01:52:44,040 --> 01:52:46,519
Speaker 1: he's right there, not quite as dynamic as a receiver.

2021
01:52:47,000 --> 01:52:49,400
Speaker 1: And then I would put Dalvin Cook quite third. Um,

2022
01:52:50,280 --> 01:52:55,080
Speaker 1: and I think Joe Mixing, Yeah, he's good, but I

2023
01:52:55,320 --> 01:52:59,640
Speaker 1: mean he's more of a UM he's not He's not

2024
01:52:59,720 --> 01:53:04,240
Speaker 1: as good down in the back. No other news around

2025
01:53:04,280 --> 01:53:07,360
Speaker 1: the league. Defensive back Logan Ryan headed the Giants one year,

2026
01:53:07,479 --> 01:53:11,080
Speaker 1: seven and a half million dollars and close to his college,

2027
01:53:11,120 --> 01:53:13,360
Speaker 1: and their quarterbacks might be heading to jail, so he

2028
01:53:13,439 --> 01:53:17,040
Speaker 1: had to do something. You think about that, you know,

2029
01:53:17,479 --> 01:53:19,240
Speaker 1: they thought DeAndre Baker was going to be one of

2030
01:53:19,320 --> 01:53:21,919
Speaker 1: their starting quarterbacks and he got involved in the situation

2031
01:53:22,000 --> 01:53:25,759
Speaker 1: down here where allegedly he was involved in an arm robbery.

2032
01:53:25,880 --> 01:53:29,000
Speaker 1: So they had to do something it makes sense for them. Yeah,

2033
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Speaker 1: I'm surprised Logan Ryan's on the street that long. He didn't.

2034
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Speaker 1: You have a pretty good year last year in Tennessee,

2035
01:53:34,120 --> 01:53:38,120
Speaker 1: Pete the Pro Bowl. Yeah, I think he might have

2036
01:53:38,160 --> 01:53:41,200
Speaker 1: been waiting for the right opportunity to know that's a

2037
01:53:41,439 --> 01:53:43,640
Speaker 1: that's a good one year contract for a guy to

2038
01:53:43,800 --> 01:53:46,360
Speaker 1: go in there and start right because there was situation

2039
01:53:46,439 --> 01:53:53,160
Speaker 1: is perfect for LSU. Why receiver Jamarchchase is opting out

2040
01:53:53,200 --> 01:53:56,800
Speaker 1: of the college football season and he just adds to

2041
01:53:56,880 --> 01:53:59,679
Speaker 1: the list of guys feete that are skipping this last

2042
01:53:59,760 --> 01:54:02,759
Speaker 1: year of college and with the unknowns around the season

2043
01:54:02,840 --> 01:54:06,120
Speaker 1: to go to the NFL. Well, they're following Nick Bosa's lead.

2044
01:54:06,160 --> 01:54:07,840
Speaker 1: When he did it at Ohio State, it wasn't the

2045
01:54:07,920 --> 01:54:10,200
Speaker 1: same pyper situation, but he did it. I mean, let's

2046
01:54:10,240 --> 01:54:12,559
Speaker 1: be honest, hurt though, but he got hurt head after. Yeah,

2047
01:54:12,560 --> 01:54:14,800
Speaker 1: he could have come back, Tony, he took it off

2048
01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:16,880
Speaker 1: to go platt and go get ready for this for

2049
01:54:16,960 --> 01:54:20,439
Speaker 1: the NFL. Yeah, but different to me because Nick Bosa

2050
01:54:20,520 --> 01:54:22,480
Speaker 1: was not gonna sit out if he didn't get hurts

2051
01:54:22,520 --> 01:54:24,519
Speaker 1: Alas he said, this kid sitting out before he ever

2052
01:54:24,600 --> 01:54:28,439
Speaker 1: plays one game. I like her, like come back And

2053
01:54:28,520 --> 01:54:30,200
Speaker 1: then he said no, I'm gonna get ready for the draft.

2054
01:54:30,280 --> 01:54:33,200
Speaker 1: And it hurt him. Okay, no, but it was different.

2055
01:54:33,240 --> 01:54:34,920
Speaker 1: He wasn't gonna come back to the bowl game. It

2056
01:54:35,040 --> 01:54:38,040
Speaker 1: was the season was over. Basically, he had foot surgery.

2057
01:54:38,320 --> 01:54:41,840
Speaker 1: Two different things. This kid is healthy. I don't like it.

2058
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:44,480
Speaker 1: And if I was a GM, I wouldn't like it either. Oh,

2059
01:54:44,560 --> 01:54:46,520
Speaker 1: if I was a GM, I wouldn't care. I get

2060
01:54:46,600 --> 01:54:49,440
Speaker 1: ready for the NFL. Go protect your money. Come on, Tony,

2061
01:54:49,440 --> 01:54:52,440
Speaker 1: you're better than that. You know better than that. So

2062
01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:54,560
Speaker 1: why go to college at all? Pete? Why not just say,

2063
01:54:54,680 --> 01:54:57,920
Speaker 1: hang out after high school until you be eligible? And

2064
01:54:58,040 --> 01:55:00,320
Speaker 1: you know what, that's eventually coming. There's gonna be because

2065
01:55:00,440 --> 01:55:03,640
Speaker 1: because right now that college football has a they basically

2066
01:55:03,720 --> 01:55:06,280
Speaker 1: a free minor league for the NFL. Eventually you're gonna

2067
01:55:06,280 --> 01:55:07,800
Speaker 1: have a minor league and these guys are going to

2068
01:55:07,840 --> 01:55:11,040
Speaker 1: go to college some of them. Do you what's college

2069
01:55:11,080 --> 01:55:13,200
Speaker 1: football too? You get go play if you're ready, if

2070
01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:14,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna beat de mar Chase, you're gonna be a

2071
01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:19,520
Speaker 1: high first round pick. Why would you go play the season? Um?

2072
01:55:20,840 --> 01:55:22,760
Speaker 1: And I know you you are a self wish yourself.

2073
01:55:22,760 --> 01:55:27,840
Speaker 1: Wish can be damn thing because you wanted if you

2074
01:55:27,920 --> 01:55:32,600
Speaker 1: love your school for ye love you. If you get hurt,

2075
01:55:34,440 --> 01:55:36,760
Speaker 1: he gets to do the victory side after the game.

2076
01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:39,280
Speaker 1: That's why, that's why Tony wants to do it absolutely.

2077
01:55:40,840 --> 01:55:42,800
Speaker 1: And by the way, I've asked many gms over the

2078
01:55:42,920 --> 01:55:48,720
Speaker 1: years about this. They don't give it. Damn go back

2079
01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:51,360
Speaker 1: to do you go back Pete? Just let him, you know,

2080
01:55:51,480 --> 01:55:53,880
Speaker 1: even after the freshman year, like Maurice Clarette, right, that

2081
01:55:54,000 --> 01:55:56,760
Speaker 1: was the big fight with him and it wouldn't have

2082
01:55:56,800 --> 01:56:00,480
Speaker 1: worked out for But that's his decision. I don't I

2083
01:56:00,560 --> 01:56:02,200
Speaker 1: don't like it in those kind of cases. But if

2084
01:56:02,200 --> 01:56:04,520
Speaker 1: you're Jamar chasing, you're gonna be a high first round

2085
01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:10,400
Speaker 1: pick no matter what. Why would you play set record,

2086
01:56:10,600 --> 01:56:13,400
Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy winner. I don't know. Do you write checks

2087
01:56:13,440 --> 01:56:17,080
Speaker 1: with that? Well? You can also you can get insurance

2088
01:56:17,120 --> 01:56:19,200
Speaker 1: if you get hurt, you get paid. That's not gonna

2089
01:56:19,240 --> 01:56:21,080
Speaker 1: get you to your second contract that you know, the

2090
01:56:21,080 --> 01:56:23,560
Speaker 1: big money is in the second contract, Tony. Yeah, but

2091
01:56:23,600 --> 01:56:25,760
Speaker 1: there's no guarantee he's gonna do a second contract. But

2092
01:56:25,800 --> 01:56:28,280
Speaker 1: you got you gotta do everything in your power to

2093
01:56:28,320 --> 01:56:30,280
Speaker 1: try and get to that second contract and not playing

2094
01:56:30,360 --> 01:56:34,560
Speaker 1: this year is the first step to that. You have

2095
01:56:35,120 --> 01:56:38,160
Speaker 1: look around. Tony can talk about competitive drive and doing

2096
01:56:38,200 --> 01:56:40,080
Speaker 1: it for the school and everything else. I know him.

2097
01:56:40,680 --> 01:56:45,360
Speaker 1: I know him. You would have sat out at USC

2098
01:56:46,600 --> 01:56:52,400
Speaker 1: you were guaranteed we will pick you second overall next

2099
01:56:52,520 --> 01:56:57,680
Speaker 1: draft before the college season, would you have played? Guaranteed? Yeah,

2100
01:56:57,960 --> 01:57:02,960
Speaker 1: guaranteed you're going first or second next draft? Second? So

2101
01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:05,240
Speaker 1: would you you were guaranteed to go second? Would you

2102
01:57:05,240 --> 01:57:11,440
Speaker 1: have played your senior season? Beat the business side of it.

2103
01:57:11,520 --> 01:57:13,480
Speaker 1: I actually I'm not gonna see and act like I'm

2104
01:57:13,520 --> 01:57:16,560
Speaker 1: gonna argue against young the business side that's a fair point.

2105
01:57:16,720 --> 01:57:18,680
Speaker 1: But I'll say this, I have a lot of great

2106
01:57:18,760 --> 01:57:21,920
Speaker 1: memories and after doing it all and playing both pro college,

2107
01:57:21,960 --> 01:57:24,360
Speaker 1: I loved my senior in college. It was I had

2108
01:57:24,480 --> 01:57:27,480
Speaker 1: so much fun. I really did. I loved it and

2109
01:57:27,560 --> 01:57:29,680
Speaker 1: it was a big part of my memories of the

2110
01:57:29,720 --> 01:57:31,680
Speaker 1: game of football that I love playing. Because I loved

2111
01:57:31,720 --> 01:57:35,120
Speaker 1: playing football, And so I don't know if I would

2112
01:57:35,160 --> 01:57:37,320
Speaker 1: from a business case, I can't argue that with you. Pete.

2113
01:57:37,320 --> 01:57:39,839
Speaker 1: You're right, it doesn't make sense from a business standpoint,

2114
01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:42,280
Speaker 1: but from a lifestyle and what you love to do

2115
01:57:42,440 --> 01:57:44,240
Speaker 1: and like you love the game and like the memories

2116
01:57:44,320 --> 01:57:46,480
Speaker 1: I have and what I gotta do and going to

2117
01:57:46,560 --> 01:57:48,320
Speaker 1: the Cop Bowl and hanging out with my friends and

2118
01:57:48,360 --> 01:57:52,280
Speaker 1: the like those moments, Like I don't know if I

2119
01:57:52,280 --> 01:57:54,440
Speaker 1: had to try those. Plus you took a pay cut

2120
01:57:54,480 --> 01:57:57,600
Speaker 1: to come into gam That's not true. I didn't get paid.

2121
01:57:57,880 --> 01:57:59,600
Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying. You only played half

2122
01:57:59,720 --> 01:58:02,360
Speaker 1: the the Cotton Bowl. You only played the first half anyway,

2123
01:58:02,440 --> 01:58:07,040
Speaker 1: And I'm in the Hall of Fame. Um, but pace,

2124
01:58:07,040 --> 01:58:09,600
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that that means something. Yeah, no,

2125
01:58:10,240 --> 01:58:12,600
Speaker 1: I get I'll be honest with you. Like in all series,

2126
01:58:12,720 --> 01:58:14,800
Speaker 1: is like the reason I'm in the College Football Hall

2127
01:58:14,800 --> 01:58:17,360
Speaker 1: of Famous because I played my senior year did really good.

2128
01:58:17,840 --> 01:58:20,240
Speaker 1: Like that's something that's a pretty cool honor that money

2129
01:58:20,320 --> 01:58:24,840
Speaker 1: can't buy, and that's not going away, like a hundred

2130
01:58:24,880 --> 01:58:26,400
Speaker 1: years from now when they go look at that thing,

2131
01:58:26,480 --> 01:58:29,080
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm dead and gone and my great

2132
01:58:29,120 --> 01:58:31,240
Speaker 1: great grandkids and go up to Atlanta and look at

2133
01:58:31,240 --> 01:58:33,720
Speaker 1: the dang thingg and and be like, hey, my, that's

2134
01:58:33,760 --> 01:58:37,400
Speaker 1: my grandpa or my great grandpa or whatever. From a

2135
01:58:37,520 --> 01:58:40,200
Speaker 1: business standpoint, I get it. But to me and now

2136
01:58:40,400 --> 01:58:43,760
Speaker 1: being serious, it's not all about dollar and cents. It's

2137
01:58:43,800 --> 01:58:47,560
Speaker 1: just not it's not but and that's why that's why

2138
01:58:47,600 --> 01:58:49,360
Speaker 1: I don't buy it. It's for me. Now do I

2139
01:58:49,440 --> 01:58:51,600
Speaker 1: need do? I think we need to reform college football

2140
01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:53,040
Speaker 1: and we need to look at how we do it

2141
01:58:53,160 --> 01:58:57,200
Speaker 1: and in the whole economic model and everything else. Would

2142
01:58:57,240 --> 01:58:58,760
Speaker 1: you let me answ you this. If you were playing

2143
01:58:58,800 --> 01:59:01,200
Speaker 1: at USC right now and they can't anceled the season,

2144
01:59:01,320 --> 01:59:03,960
Speaker 1: you could transfer, go play another I would transfer? You

2145
01:59:04,040 --> 01:59:07,400
Speaker 1: would I would you? I mean, if you were guaranteed

2146
01:59:07,440 --> 01:59:09,640
Speaker 1: to be a top TED pick, you'd still transfer. Go play.

2147
01:59:10,560 --> 01:59:13,000
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good That's that's an interesting like not

2148
01:59:13,120 --> 01:59:15,600
Speaker 1: having a relationship. I don't know. Maybe I would look

2149
01:59:15,640 --> 01:59:18,040
Speaker 1: at it because it's not like your fields. If your

2150
01:59:18,120 --> 01:59:20,560
Speaker 1: feet justin fields, would you go try and play somewhere?

2151
01:59:21,680 --> 01:59:23,720
Speaker 1: I'll say this if I was if I was in

2152
01:59:23,840 --> 01:59:26,160
Speaker 1: that situation, and let's say I'll just say Alabama, because

2153
01:59:26,400 --> 01:59:28,800
Speaker 1: JP loves Alabama and they're a good football team in

2154
01:59:28,840 --> 01:59:30,600
Speaker 1: Alabama said listen, you're gonna be our starting left tackle.

2155
01:59:30,640 --> 01:59:33,840
Speaker 1: We're gonna win a national title. Have be free, Daniel Loring.

2156
01:59:34,640 --> 01:59:36,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just bad that Arizona State stop

2157
01:59:36,800 --> 01:59:38,520
Speaker 1: playing this year because this is a year that the

2158
01:59:40,400 --> 01:59:47,480
Speaker 1: year okay Pee Pete Frisco totale was s more than

2159
01:59:47,560 --> 01:59:48,040
Speaker 1: just money