1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. We're welcome to stuff 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: I've never told you a protective of iHeartRadio and today, Yes, 3 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: your eyes ears do not deceive you. You're getting a classic. 4 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: That's because we're doing I Spoiled Saturdays this month. But 5 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: this weekend, as it comes out, is Mother's Day, and 6 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: we were talking about some potential topics around that, and 7 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: I had the idea of gendered gift giving around Mom's 8 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: and how so much of it is like cooking stuff 9 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: or cleaning stuff. But I remembered I had done that 10 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: already in a previous update. Yes, so I wanted to 11 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: bring something back to marked the occasion, and I remembered 12 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: we had done this one where I really gush about 13 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: how much I love my mom, called mentors and Mom's stuff, 14 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,839 Speaker 1: and where we just talk about women in our lives 15 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: that we looked up to or were mentors to us 16 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: at some point. As always with this, shout out to 17 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: people who are hurting on Mother's Day for whatever reason, 18 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: if it's infertility, bad relationships with mothers, loss. Also reminder, 19 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: non binary Parents' Day is a thing. Yeah yeah, yeah, 20 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: But whatever you're doing, we hope that you enjoy this 21 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: classic episode. Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome 22 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: to stuff I never told your protection of iHeartRadio's house 23 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: that works. This episode all about mentors and strong women 24 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: and role models. 25 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: Goes out to my mom. 26 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: Because her birthday is tomorrow as you record this, but 27 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: it was new, it was soonish right whenever you hear it, 28 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: And I did want to do a list of things 29 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: I love about my mom because she's my favorite. The 30 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: number one thing is she's kind love and kindness is 31 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: one of my most valued traits in anybody. 32 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 33 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 4: I haven't met her yet, but everything you've told of me, 34 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 4: I'm like, she's the most patient, genuinely giving person. 35 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 3: Yeah that just sounds like it. 36 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 2: Wow. 37 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's very caring, she's empathetic. She calls me sweetness. 38 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: She's strong and funny and fun and wants to make 39 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: sure everyone else is having fun. She's handled a lot 40 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: of tragedy with grace. She knows what your favorite meal 41 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: is and we'll make it for you when you're sad 42 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: or happy, or when she's just thinking of you. She 43 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: has a Southern accent that makes it hard for drive 44 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: through employees to understand her. 45 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 3: Really. 46 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: Yep, the infamous example is when we were at a 47 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: Zaxby's and she wanted water, and they thought she was 48 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: saying order, so they thought she wanted a second order, 49 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: but she was saying water or waters? 50 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 3: Is that southern thing? Or is that the more like? 51 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: I feel like that's southern. 52 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 4: I know there's a YouTube star who does that too, 53 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 4: and he's from Atlanta, apparently in water water, and every 54 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 4: time he does it, they make fun of him and 55 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 4: put in translation. 56 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: It was quite funny. It was one of those like 57 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: who's on first? 58 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: Just took forever. 59 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: Eventually she was like, forget the water, It's fine. She 60 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: she also gets a lot of modern things just slightly wrong. 61 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: Back in my my chemical romance phase. She called them 62 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: my potions addiction. 63 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 4: I mean because I like Potter. She was combining the fantastic. 64 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 4: Actually that sounds like a Harry Potter cover ban. 65 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: It should be. 66 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 3: Wow. 67 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: She's easy to talk to you. She's a great listener. 68 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: She used to take the longer way to my gymnastics 69 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: class because it had a steep hill that I. 70 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: Liked going up and down and pretending it was a 71 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 2: roller coaster. Every year, she hides Easter eggs just for me. 72 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 4: You make a lot of money off those I make 73 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 4: a lot of money. That's amazing. 74 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: I know. 75 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 4: I feel like I want to come over and so 76 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 4: fun and there's money to be getting all the money. 77 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: My favorite part about Thanksgiving is cooking with her. Well, 78 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,119 Speaker 1: we drink Corse light out of silver goblets. 79 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: Oh you fancy, We super fancy. She's brave. 80 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: She's heacked alone in all kinds of isolated places you 81 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: can't find online, and she draws maps of those areas 82 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: that she is shared with coworkers in this office who've 83 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 1: been curious. And she has this hand drawn map she'll 84 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: give you if. 85 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 3: I need that. 86 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 2: It's awesome. 87 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: She's happy to try new things like moonshine if you 88 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: want to try a John Snow seemed to be here 89 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: at a bar she's in, even though she doesn't know 90 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: who John Snow. And one of my favorite pictures I've 91 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: ever posted on Instagram. I was trying to show her 92 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: what a selfie was and instead of looking at the camera, 93 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: she kissed me on the cheek and it's one of 94 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: my favorite pictures we've ever taken. Oh that's adorable. Yeah. 95 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: She volunteers, She helps others. She remembers the little things 96 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: that you mentioned and then brings them up years later, 97 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: like remember how your favorite so when you were in 98 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: seventh grade. 99 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: Was that Matrix song for by Pod And I'm like, no, 100 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:07,799 Speaker 2: but I can't believe you remember. 101 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 3: That's amazing. 102 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: She indulges me in my silly quest, like going to 103 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,799 Speaker 1: every store to find a cheap PlayStation four, which we did. 104 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 2: It took forever, but we did. 105 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: She didn't laugh at me when I was nine and 106 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: cried because I realized I would, in fact, never marry 107 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: Ryan Gosling. It was out of the cards. It was 108 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: a tough day for me. She's excited to learn new things. 109 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: She'll watch a bad movie with me and listen to 110 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: me talk about Harry Potter and Marvel all day. She 111 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: encouraged me to travel. She forgives where I tried to forget. 112 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: She never tries to change me and all my weirdness. 113 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: She's my cheerleader and she's in my corner and I 114 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: love her and she loves me, and I know that 115 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 1: she does, and her actions and in her words, she 116 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: has made it impossible for me to think otherwise, even 117 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: on my lowest day. And I could go on and on, 118 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: But if she's listening now, she's blushing. Oh, even though 119 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: I'd like to do a whole podcast about her, probably 120 00:05:58,360 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: shut it. 121 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 2: We can, Oh, gosh, I would love to. Don't tempt me. 122 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 2: And my mom and I look a lot of like. 123 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: And sometimes people will come up to me and they'll 124 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: think I'm her, And instead of being like angry because 125 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: she's older than me, I'm. 126 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: Like, always so flattered by. 127 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 3: I love that. 128 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 4: I'll love those pictures of the parent daughter group and 129 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 4: they're like, are they sisters? 130 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: Who is who? 131 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 3: Who was the older? 132 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's we do look a lot like I see it. 133 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: But yes, this episode is not all about my mom, 134 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: but I wanted to talk about her because it's her birthday, 135 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 1: and also she has been a really beneficial and powerful 136 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: role model and mentor in my life, and we wanted 137 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: to look into why that's so important. And one of 138 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: the big things is if you can see it, you 139 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: can be it. We've said it so many times on 140 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: the show before. It's simplification, but it does open up 141 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: so many doors. You may have thought we're closed to you. 142 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: If you see someone that you can see yourself in 143 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: doing something right. Studies have found this impacts men too. 144 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: If men never see women doing a thing, whatever it 145 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: might be, they might think women can't. 146 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 2: Do it either. 147 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: A study out of India found that when exposed to 148 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: at least two female village leaders, men were more likely 149 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: to vote for women. A recent theory suggests that role 150 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: models are helpful in three ways behavioral, inspirational, and potential. 151 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: One of the things that has come up a lot 152 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: in our female first segments is these amazing women reporting 153 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: how hard it was to do everything that they did 154 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: without a role model or mentor someone they can look 155 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: to to see because they're the first, there was no 156 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: one like them to get advice from or to learn from. 157 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 4: Right. A recent study found that eighty nine percent of 158 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 4: women made more aspirational life goals when around a woman 159 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 4: they admire and middlely. The study was in part sponsored 160 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 4: by Linquisine, but also by NYU College. 161 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 3: So there's that. 162 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 4: It found that after a conversation with a woman that 163 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 4: they found inspirational, women were more likely to think about 164 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 4: the things they wanted as opposed to what they believe 165 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 4: society expected of them. 166 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: Having a female role model can help women deal with 167 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: all the self doubt and self criticism that often plagues 168 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: a lot of us, especially when we do something society 169 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: tells us isn't really for women. Isn't a placed women 170 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: can succeed in? Isn't a space for women? 171 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 4: The National Science Foundation recently sponsored a study that found that, 172 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 4: compared to male faculty tenured or tenured track, female faculty 173 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 4: were more likely to have mentors. Female assistant professors with 174 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 4: mentors were more likely to get grants than those without 175 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 4: a mentor. 176 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: A study from the Air Force Academy and two economists 177 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 1: at the University of California Davis found, as reported by 178 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: Ray Feisman over at Slate, quote, when a female instructor 179 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: was put at the front of the classroom, nearly two 180 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: thirds of the grade point gender gap evaporated. The study 181 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: authors acknowledged the difficulty of isolating any one thing when 182 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: it comes to improving grades, and that's one of the 183 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: reasons they chose it was a military college for their study, 184 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: with the hopes of minimizing as many of those factors 185 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: as possible. 186 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 4: A different study from KMPG found that women really want 187 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 4: mentorship and really benefit from it. Sixty seven percent reported 188 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 4: that they needed a support group to foster the confidence 189 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 4: they needed to be leaders. The same number indicated they'd 190 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 4: learned the most valuable leadership lessons from other women. 191 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: Several studies have shown mentorship to be especially helpful when 192 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: it comes to women in tech. Still, even with a mentor, 193 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: the attrition rate for women in STEM fields is one 194 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: out of four women compared to one out of ten men. 195 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 4: The importance of mentoring our young folks can't be underestimated either. 196 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 4: Negative stereotypes about women in STEM impacts girls as early 197 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 4: as twelve and when they started reporting a declining interest. 198 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: A twenty seventeen study found that black students were more 199 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: likely to graduate if they had at least one black 200 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: teacher between third and fifth grade. Other research found that 201 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: women are more likely to enroll in upper level classes 202 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: when they've had experience with a female role model in 203 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: that field, even a minor one. 204 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 4: And women can relate to issues faced by other women, 205 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 4: being the only one in the boardroom, salary negotiations, or 206 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 4: being spoken over. 207 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: Men can totally be good mentors for both men and 208 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: women too. However, one of the interesting side effects of 209 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: the Me too movement is that, according to some studies, 210 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: more than half of male managers are now nervous and 211 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: avoidant when it comes to working closely with women. 212 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 2: Mentorship is different from sponsorship. 213 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: I just want to put that in there, which is 214 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: sponsorship is valuable as well, and this is when someone 215 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: in a position of power speaks for you, vouchers for you, 216 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: actively helps. 217 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 2: Advance your career. And I did read there aren't. 218 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 1: That many pieces out there about this, but there are 219 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: some about like stop looking from mentors, which you need 220 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: as a sponsor, you could probably benefit from both. 221 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 2: But you know mentor. 222 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: When we say mentor, a lot of what we're talking 223 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: about is informal, although companies do have formal programs. And 224 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: if this is something you're interested in, totally. 225 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 4: Checkingship is an involved process, which is a relationship beyond, 226 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 4: then just let me help you with this one thing. 227 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 4: And I know for my kids having a mentor it 228 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 4: makes a vast difference. Someone that they can turn to, 229 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 4: someone they trust, someone that they can help them in 230 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 4: times of needs without feeling judged. 231 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 3: And that's a lot of the mentorship. But it's not 232 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 3: judging but helping. 233 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 4: And I know according to one study, one very important 234 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 4: study about adolescence, the likelihood of them reoffending or going 235 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 4: down a negative path is lessened if they have one 236 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 4: positive influence or mentor in their life and it makes 237 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 4: a vast amount of difference in their future. 238 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, so pretty important stuff. And we have some more 239 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: important stuff to talk about. But first we have a 240 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: quick break for words from a sponsor, and we're back, 241 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: Thank you sponsor. So now we want to talk about 242 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: If you're hearing this and you're hanging, oh my gosh, 243 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: I gotta go out and get me a mentor finding one, 244 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: let's talk about that. Like we said, many companies do 245 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: offer a formal mentorship program, so be sure to see 246 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: if that's an option where you work. However, we could 247 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: definitely do better. Overall, a program is valuable because it 248 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: normalizes a work culture that promotes learning, growing and asking 249 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: for help and just having that structure in place, like 250 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: knowing that this person is available or interested, very very helpful. 251 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: Of note, you can get a mentor for non work 252 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: stuff too, like just somebody in your life, Like my 253 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: mom wasn't my mentor for work or anything. 254 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 2: She's more my role model but also kind of a mentor, right. 255 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 4: And that's the whole idea that I was saying previously 256 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 4: before the ad is this mentoring is just beyond this 257 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 4: one thing it's a whole life changing process it hopefully yeah, 258 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 4: in a good way. 259 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. It comes to choosing a mentor a couple things. 260 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: Know what you want out of the relationship and be 261 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: able to communicate that. Do communicate that, and don't be 262 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: afraid to be selective, be open to hearing constructive criticism, 263 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: and to actually heeding advice. Look for someone who has 264 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: the experience you want, is qualified and passionate in your field, 265 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: and has the bandwidth and desire to be a mentor, 266 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: and is generally nice. I would say it will be 267 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 1: a positive influence in your life. And this is more 268 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 1: work stuff, and for me, I had a mentor for 269 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: this job, although it was more back when I was 270 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: a producer. My old boss, Roxanne, whose voice a lot 271 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: of you may recognize as the one that has long 272 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 1: introduced our fellow podcast stuff you should know and stuff 273 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: you missed in history class. She was a great listener. 274 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: She had your back, she had everyone's back. She made 275 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: time out of her day for me, gave me advice 276 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: and constructive criticism and praise. She gave me ideas and 277 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: also was very straightforward with me about the pros and 278 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: cons of like pursuing certain positions at the company and 279 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: work home life balance, and to this day we still 280 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: meet up. 281 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 2: Very valuable relationship to me. 282 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 4: I think when it comes to this shop technically you 283 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 4: large from Savor as well as Caroline with a lady 284 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 4: like are my mentors of what the hell am I doing? 285 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 3: And checking in I'm like, is this good? Is this bad? 286 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 4: Am I just completely off the chart and trying to 287 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 4: do what I'm doing and all of that. And it's 288 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 4: been really nice to have because I could not imagine 289 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 4: trying to do this and being like, yeah, I don't 290 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 4: know I'm doing because I don't. 291 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: And it's That's another good point is it doesn't have 292 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: to be I think when people think of mentors, they 293 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: think of someone fifty years older than you, way older 294 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: and like, way more qualified. And it doesn't have to 295 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: be that way at all. And we'll come back to 296 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: that too. 297 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 4: Surveys and studies show plenty of women are willing to 298 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 4: be mentors. So why is mentoring among women so relatively rare. 299 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 4: The consensus seems to be women are afraid to ask, 300 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 4: or for some reason or another aren't asking. Well. Of course, 301 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 4: time commitment is a big thing as well. If you 302 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 4: want to be a mentor or. If you want a mentor, 303 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 4: don't be afraid. You probably know a woman in your 304 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 4: life happy to step in to fill that role. 305 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's one of those things. It doesn't have 306 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: to be a super formal it can be. It doesn't 307 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: have to be. 308 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 4: Sometimes it does feel like it's kind of stalk creation. 309 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 4: I'm like, hey, I really like what you're doing. You 310 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 4: wouldn't be my mentor. 311 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 2: Well, you just did you say anything in that voice? 312 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 2: It feels a little starrish. 313 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 3: You didn't like that voice. 314 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, maybe your approach needs all I'm staring 315 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: at you like this. 316 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's like an eyebrow thing. 317 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 3: Which is funny because my eyebrows really can't move. 318 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: Well, they're doing something right now. 319 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 3: They're doing sound creepy. Way to go, Samantha. 320 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, well we'll discuss this after the podcast. And 321 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: this brings us to how to be a mentor. According 322 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: to a DDI World study, women shy away from being 323 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: mentors for three main reasons. Women don't ask other women 324 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: to be mentors, a lack of time on the part 325 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: of the mentor. Women don't feel they have an appropriate 326 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: level of expertise, to mentor, which is that damn imposter 327 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: syndrome again. And mentoring it's not a one way street. 328 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: It's not only helpful for the mentee, but for the 329 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: mentor as well. It's a mutually beneficial relationship, or it 330 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: should be. As a mentor, you'll improve your listening skills, 331 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: you'll learn, you'll become more compassionate and empathetic, you'll push 332 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: yourself to do better. I was a mentor in college 333 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: and on and off informally in my career. 334 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 2: And I found it to be super rewarding. 335 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: And I know I felt some anxiety and being a mentor, 336 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: that I wasn't good enough, didn't know enough, And yeah, 337 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: I know I'm not the only one that. 338 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 2: Feels like that. 339 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: But the value of just having someone there listening, a 340 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 1: person you can talk to. Don't underestimate that. Like, if 341 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: you can do at least those things right, that's a 342 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: pretty good foundation. 343 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 2: I remember once, and I hope no one judges me 344 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 2: for this, but. 345 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: I jokingly told a menti of mine, I guess, in 346 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: what was a very serious tone, there is no fate, 347 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: no fate, but what make And I was exhausted and 348 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: advice is hard and retired and I'm a nerd, and 349 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: I really just I was kidding. But weeks later she 350 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: came up to me so grateful for my great advice 351 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: and yeah that was a quote from T two Judgment Day, 352 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: but it helped her. 353 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 3: You know, Terminator, she never like sees. 354 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 1: That movie feels such crushing betrayal. 355 00:17:58,359 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 3: She stole that lie. 356 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,479 Speaker 1: Well, I didn't know what she was talking about it first, like, well, 357 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 1: what advice? And then later I was like, oh no, 358 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: and yes, yes, you should do better than that, better 359 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 1: than spouting quotes from James Cameron movies. But don't let 360 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: yourself be too scared away from being a mentor because 361 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: you're not perfect. 362 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 4: I mean, to be fair, you may be and you 363 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 4: just don't know it. That's true when you form some 364 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 4: types of relationships, it becomes kind of that way, when 365 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 4: you're there to help and you could just be I'm 366 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 4: your good friend, but I'm coming in and checking in. 367 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,959 Speaker 4: Of course, there's a balance, but you may be mentoring 368 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 4: someone without knowing you're mentoring someone. 369 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 2: That's totally true. 370 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: There's so many people in my life that I don't 371 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: know if they realized the huge impact they had. Ely 372 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: and one of them, someone I met in China. 373 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 2: I was so sad I had to leave. 374 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: I was so sad, and she said, like, very simply, 375 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 1: sometimes people come into your life exactly when you need them, 376 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: and then they have to leave. 377 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 2: And I still think about it to this day. I 378 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 2: was like, does she knew? She knew, but she probably 379 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 2: has no idea. I still think about that. 380 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: Another thing, A lot of the key things a mentee 381 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: wants to learn from a mentor isn't so much technical 382 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: but more kind of personal. Not personal, but like communication, skills, negotiation, leadership. 383 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: So if you're thinking, oh, I can barely do this 384 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: job myself, right. 385 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 2: That was me. 386 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: I'm not putting that on anyone else. But when I 387 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 1: first started editing, I thought that A lot a lot 388 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: of people are more like, how do I talk to 389 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: my boss? Or how do I sell these skills that 390 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: I have? How do I communicate better? How can I 391 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: be a better leader? How can I delegate things that 392 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: aren't necessarily so skills slash job based. 393 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 4: I will say, I just used you for that literally 394 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 4: ten minutes ago she did. 395 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 2: She did. 396 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 4: So advertise your willingness to mentor if you're in STEM 397 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 4: volunteers speak to schools volunteer working with students. 398 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think there's a lot to be said. 399 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 4: I know in colleges they offer older students with younger 400 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,719 Speaker 4: students to help in different types of fields or whatnot, 401 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 4: So that's always good to do as well. 402 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I had that program in my school when 403 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: I was in elementary school. 404 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 2: And Zoe, if you're. 405 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: Listening, Zoe, I remember you, and you really inspired me. 406 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I. 407 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 1: Very much see the benefit and things like that. Some tips, 408 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: once you find a mentor mentee, have structured meetings with 409 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 1: set times frequencies. 410 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 2: This is more for the formal stuff. 411 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: Come prepared with goals and objectives as the mentee and 412 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: homework as the mentor. And that doesn't have to be 413 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: like write this thing out, but more like maybe the 414 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: little focus on this and you can work on this 415 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 1: or read this thing or whatever it might be. 416 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 3: You like the homework, huh do? 417 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 2: I used to. 418 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 3: Ask for extra homework. 419 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 2: I was a nerd, not you were, but you were. 420 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: I was just were I Ohmantha, I race it. 421 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 2: Now you are. 422 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 3: Typically I'm too, just in different ways. 423 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 2: Yes. 424 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 4: And visibility of how women work, which for a variety 425 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 4: of reasons like children or elder care may be different 426 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 4: than men is really really really really really important. 427 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, And my most recent. 428 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: Meeting with someone who I wouldn't say she's my mentee, 429 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: but she kind of reached out to me and was like, Hey, 430 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 1: I'm interested in doing pursuing kind of what you're doing, 431 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: and can we sit down and talk? And I was 432 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: very upfront with like, I love my job, but it 433 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: means X, Y and Z, it's for my home life, 434 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,719 Speaker 1: it means this, and like just being open about what 435 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: it really takes for you to do what, especially in 436 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: a job like this where there's kind of a public 437 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: aspect to it, Like what does it take to get 438 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: to where we are right now? 439 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 4: And that's honestly exactly why I come to you, and 440 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 4: come to people who have been in this field for 441 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 4: a very long time. I'm not gonna pretend like I 442 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 4: know what's going on. 443 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 3: You know, and it's okay. 444 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 4: You know your weaknesses, you know your strengths, improve your weaknesses, 445 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 4: and this is how you do it. You seek it 446 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,239 Speaker 4: out and it's better to know, yes, obviously, than not know. 447 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 4: And it's better to mint that you don't know. So 448 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 4: how do I find help? And kind of like how 449 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 4: I'm doing. I don't necessarily have an individual mentor. I 450 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 4: literally seek people out in their specialties and or in 451 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 4: their expertise because I know I can get this from 452 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 4: you just kind of how you people come in seasons. 453 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 4: They have attributes and things that you don't know, which 454 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 4: makes it an amazing thing, which is what I love 455 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,479 Speaker 4: about meeting new people. You find different things that you're like, 456 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 4: oh wow, I can learn from that, right, do it? 457 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely? 458 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: And I think one article I read kind of going 459 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 1: off of that said you shouldn't be looking for mentors 460 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: but friend tours exactly. And so that's another way of 461 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: looking at it. If you're not into this whole idea 462 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: of like a more structured mentorship, or you're just I 463 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: don't want to stay embarrassed, but maybe like a friend 464 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: towards an easier thing right for you to pursue. 465 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 3: I mean, for me, I trust it. 466 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 4: I have a huge trust issue in general, and I'm 467 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 4: so much better now, But that was part of the thing, 468 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 4: is like, how do I trust you in all these 469 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 4: aspects and I don't want to be disappointed or I 470 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 4: don't want to disappoint you all of those levels and 471 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 4: being able to kind of bring people in your groups 472 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 4: and lovingly do these things and then come up with 473 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 4: a fact like I don't know this aspect again, let's 474 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 4: talk and you teach me about this. Yeah, and then 475 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 4: kind of the same thing with you know, mikex or 476 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 4: takes to social work, so I do get the hey 477 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 4: you're a social worker. 478 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 3: So yeah, and annoying as that can be. 479 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 4: Sure, I understand why, and it's actually very appropriate and smart. Yeah, 480 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 4: unless you're asking for a session, then that's weird. 481 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, don't. 482 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of my friends who your 483 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 1: nurses get the hate right like. 484 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 3: Hey, oh yeah, weird mo. 485 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we're off what. 486 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 3: And you start brandowly pointing at scars. 487 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, that's a different episode. We're going off track. 488 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 3: Cool. Sorry. 489 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 1: Also, you can have more than one mentor, and you 490 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: can have more than one mentee. You can be both 491 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: a mentor and a mentee. Your mentor can be your 492 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: age or younger, can be older. It can be formal 493 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: or informal. No labels as they say these days also 494 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: also not quite the same. But seeing it being it 495 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: is important when it comes to our media, especially the 496 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: media children consume as well. That's something We've talked about 497 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: a lot, but worth worth restating. We do have just 498 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: a little bit more for you listeners. But first we 499 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: have one more quick break forward from our sponsor, and 500 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:58,360 Speaker 1: we're back. 501 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 2: Thank you sponsor. I wanted to touch. 502 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: Briefly on why this matters, even though I think it's 503 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 1: been sprinkled throughout this episode. 504 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 2: Ready one, there. 505 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: Are more men named Dave than there are women total 506 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: on the list of CEOs of the ftse one hundred companies. 507 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 2: Really more men named Dave. Also, I think Dave too, Like. 508 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 1: There are a bunch of names I saw on different websites. 509 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: No Roberts, I don't remember if I saw Robert, but 510 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: I Dave stuck out Dave. 511 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 2: Dave. 512 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 3: Damn it, Dave. 513 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 2: What is the quote from two thousand and one? I'm sorry, Dave. 514 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 2: I just can't do that. 515 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: Oh I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave. 516 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 3: Thank you. 517 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 2: Andrew, Yes, thank you. Andrew. 518 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 4: Care reports that although women do sixty percent of the 519 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 4: world's work, we make a measly ten percent of global 520 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 4: income and own less than one percent of the world's property. 521 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 2: That's that's not my stomach does not like that. 522 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 3: My whole party of the global income. 523 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, one percent of the world's property. 524 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 3: That's that's absurd. 525 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. 526 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: Study after study has found that our companies and our 527 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: economy as a whole benefits from diversity. Think of how 528 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: many ideas we're missing out on by not having women 529 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: and other marginalized groups at the table, whatever table that 530 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 1: might be. Think of how many ideas we would have 531 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 1: missed out on if not for women breaking barriers and 532 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: overcoming obstacles. 533 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 4: You know, one of the things I think about social media. 534 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 4: My coworker and I talk about when we were talking 535 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 4: about different issues that are happening and just kind of 536 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 4: catching up and when I'm a coworker at my other 537 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 4: job and she is a very strong black woman and 538 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 4: I love her to death, and one of the things 539 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 4: we're talking about was how she sees Twitter and how 540 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 4: we see Twitter and the differences. And she's like, as 541 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 4: she calls it, black Twitter, I. 542 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 3: Already knew this. And then white people. 543 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 4: Are saying, right, bringing this along, Like that's been fifteen years, 544 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 4: and the dynamic of the split is more noticeable now 545 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 4: that we have that social media content of and even 546 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 4: though it's still separated unfortunately and not as consumed or 547 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 4: interchangeably consumed. I guess that's such a dynamic thing. It's like, 548 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 4: what are we missing out on? Yeah, you know, and 549 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,479 Speaker 4: then you start realizing because now you have ability to 550 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 4: see that content, which is really really important. 551 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 2: Absolutely it is. 552 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 1: And I one thing and I know we've talked about 553 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 1: this before too, but like having that friend who is 554 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: the strong person always worth like because sometimes people who 555 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 1: are strong have their their days that are where they're 556 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: down to or they are feeling down about themselves as well. 557 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 2: And I in a. 558 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: Mentor mentee relationship, which can be it doesn't have to be, 559 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 1: but can be more of a like personal friendship relationship. 560 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 2: Just good to keep that in mind, you. 561 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 3: Know, check in, check in, right, always check. 562 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 2: In on people. 563 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: So that's about what we have to say about mentors 564 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: and role models today. But we are introducing a new 565 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: thing at the end of our episodes. 566 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 4: We wanted to make sure that, as we had previously 567 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 4: had episodes about supporting women and supporting women in podcasting, 568 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 4: specifically in our field, because we know the statistics, that 569 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 4: we continue to actually emphasize that. And so as I 570 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 4: am learning this whole world of social media, I've been 571 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 4: checking out different Twitter sites, and different podcasts Twitter sites. 572 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 3: Is that a word? 573 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 2: Look up to date? 574 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 4: You are good at this all read what is this? 575 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 4: I was on the Twitter site on the Twitter site, 576 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 4: it told me it tweeted at me. There are so 577 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 4: many people who are asking for suggestions, like female, what 578 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 4: are your favorite female podcasts? Female led podcasts? And so 579 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 4: I'm going through every single one of them, clicking. I'm like, oh, 580 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 4: I like this one and not like this one. So 581 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 4: a few that I saw was Shenangan's with Friends hilarious content. 582 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 3: I was just like, oh, yeah, I want to be 583 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 3: your friend. Just her. 584 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 4: She was interviewing a specific person. It was the you 585 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 4: need to go check it out, okay, nerdy bitches, it 586 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 4: would be up your alley. Yeah, it sounds like you know, 587 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 4: and black girls do stuff too. And I enjoyed every 588 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 4: bit of all of those things. And it's really good content. 589 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 4: So if you love listening to our stuff, go check 590 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 4: their stuff out. 591 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, And we would love to hear your suggestions for podcasts. 592 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 2: We should be shouting out. 593 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: If you do a podcast we've heard for some people, 594 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: let us know. 595 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 2: And one of the ways you can do that. 596 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: Is through email what yep on the email site says. 597 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 4: They call email thing does a tweet at YouTube? 598 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 2: I think so okay, cool cool. 599 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: I think so Our email is stuff Media mom Stuff 600 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: at iHeartMedia dot Com, our Twitter is at mom Stuff podcast, 601 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: and Instagram is stuff I've Never told you. 602 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 2: Thanks is all wait to our super producer Andrew Howard. 603 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 2: He's there, he was there moments ago. 604 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,479 Speaker 4: He decided to leave me because he doesn't like my songs. 605 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 2: Oh, he loves your songs. 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