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Speaker 1: Hi, this is Chase that Lee, this is the Philly Show.

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Speaker 1: Butamar Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd z a lucky It is Monday,

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Speaker 1: August fourth, twenty twenty five. Hope everybody is doing just

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Speaker 1: great out there. Rubin and Jim. It was alumni weekend. Rubin,

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Speaker 1: you had a lot of action going on. Yeh this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Got it stuff. Fitch first and foremost so glad for Ed.

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Speaker 3: It was really and I think Ed was super surprised,

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Speaker 3: like the grand dur of it. I mean, I think

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Speaker 3: it was really really grandiosity of the whole of the

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Speaker 3: whole weekend. Yeah, he really did need to be recognized.

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Speaker 3: Got a chance to see a lot of my old buddies.

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Speaker 2: Man. It was funny because I was sitting there.

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Speaker 3: I did the ESPN radio yesterday and boog John Champey

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Speaker 3: says to me, he said, so you had all types

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Speaker 3: of generations, seventies, even back to the fifth you had sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties,

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Speaker 3: two thousands.

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Speaker 2: I said, yeah, I know all these people.

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Speaker 3: I batboy for some of them, I played with some

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Speaker 2: Some of them. It was really it was sort of

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Speaker 2: enlightening for me.

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Speaker 3: But it was so cool that that I have this

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Speaker 3: connection basically to all the guys. We were lining up

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Speaker 3: just before we came out on Sunday afternoon, just before

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Speaker 3: be able to have those relationships with all those people

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Speaker 3: and to see them all it was It's really cool.

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Speaker 3: It's a great event. The Phillies do it better than

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Speaker 3: everybody as usual.

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Speaker 2: And really happy.

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Speaker 3: Obviously Jimmy Rollins, who is going to go down as

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Speaker 3: maybe the best Philly in history, other maybe Mike Schmidt,

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Speaker 3: who knows what's going to happen with this regime. But

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Speaker 3: you know, Jimmy ronands pretty pretty awesome and the words

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Speaker 3: that he said were really poignant. Did you guys take

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Speaker 3: take note O?

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Speaker 2: His speech was great. His speech was great, but he

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Speaker 2: also challenged the boys.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he basically said, you want to stop hearing about

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Speaker 3: us in the damn Championship.

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Speaker 4: And they were all out there listening. Jimmy's never been

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Speaker 4: afraid to speak his mind, and I do think in

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Speaker 4: that clubhouse they are sick of hearing about eight And

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Speaker 4: I do think it got back to Jimmy, and I

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Speaker 4: do think that was his way of throwing down the Gauntlet.

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Speaker 4: It was a tremendous speech and it was typical Jimmy.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he had a note. I don't think

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Speaker 4: he had anything prepared. He came out two minutes before

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Speaker 4: stretch and banged four hits. You know, it was unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: It was a great speech, hit everything and you know,

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Speaker 4: didn't miss anything. Just it was a remarkable night. Ed's

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Speaker 4: speech was great, Jimmy's spech was great, the crowd was great,

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Speaker 4: and of course you know they had to come from

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Speaker 4: behind victory that was pulsating and dramatic, and the Durantula.

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Speaker 2: Did his thing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what what on great weekend it was. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's funny because I remember before eight, those guys were

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Speaker 1: sick and tired. Every time you looked up at the screen,

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Speaker 1: it was nineteen ninety three Mitch Williams based at the

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Speaker 1: left center field. They're like, oh, enough with the.

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Speaker 5: Ninety three Phillies and the Mullets and the eighty team,

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Speaker 5: and they, oh, everybody was so sick of ninety three

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Speaker 4: Do something about it.

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Speaker 1: And they finally did something about it. Now they're the

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Speaker 1: guys that the current guys are like enough with the

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Speaker 1: Utley's and the Hammles's and the Victor Reno's and all

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Speaker 1: that stuff. Maybe not that Addictionurdy, but you guys know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, So that yeah, you're you're one hundred

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Speaker 1: But it was Yeah, yeah, it was cool I thought.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you think like a guy like Ed who

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Speaker 1: walking around all weekend with their Ed Wade, Jimmy rollind

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Speaker 1: in their cupboard for their next twenty years or whatever.

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Speaker 1: So that's kind of cool for all those guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: really really cool to see that. And the Phillies really

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Speaker 1: do alumni weekend and those types of things better than anybody.

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Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of those, you know, Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 3: And it's still going because I'm gonna go play golf

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Speaker 3: the Crip Philly Cricket Club.

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Speaker 2: Which is kind of cool. Wow, looking forward to doing it.

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Speaker 3: Actually, they're honoring i think twenty five years of the

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Speaker 3: ninety five Cleveland Indians team that was a Cleveland Indians team. Okay,

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Speaker 3: later on this month, and I'm gonna see how they'll

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Speaker 2: Oh, be able to compare it. They also have.

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Speaker 3: Golf there as well. I think we're playing at some

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Speaker 3: see those guys. But the Phillies really do a spectacular job.

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Speaker 3: It was a fun, fun It's been a fun weekend.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna catch I.

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Speaker 3: Got to get catches the first pitch on Saturday, so yeah, good,

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Speaker 3: you did a good job. I did a nice frame

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Speaker 3: to it too, Ed Dow a nice pitch. I had

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Speaker 3: a good, nice frame. I had Aaron Nola come up

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Speaker 3: to me and go, dude, you look good behind the dish.

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Speaker 2: You're right.

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Speaker 4: You were talking about the guy's fifties sixty seventies, that

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Speaker 4: you are the connective tissue that goes through all generations

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Speaker 4: of Phillies.

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Speaker 1: You've had a.

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Speaker 4: Role in different roles and won different hats and and

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Speaker 4: been around for it. Like every era, you must be

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk on this show about Johan Durron

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Speaker 1: the outfield situation. I do want to share one last

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Speaker 1: final alumni story. It's not really an alumni story, but

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Speaker 1: I've ever told you guys this. So it was also

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Speaker 1: at the Inquiry, Robin Smith, the late great Robin Smith.

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Speaker 1: She was a tremendous word person.

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Speaker 1: She worked the night shift and every time I you know,

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Speaker 1: back then, you file a story, you had to call Robin.

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Speaker 1: eleven thirty at night. I called Robin Roberts. Oh my,

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Speaker 1: I called Robin Roberts.

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Speaker 2: He had the wrong Robin. I called Rob Robins. That's

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Speaker 1: Hung up the phone on Robin Roberts.

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Speaker 2: He's going to tons of Lucky. What the hell's he doing?

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Speaker 4: That reminds me of another great story. So and Ruben,

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Speaker 4: when you go out to Cleveland, you can verify this story.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 2: Paul Hoins right very well. Love Hoinsey.

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Speaker 4: Hoinsey is a longtime baseball writer covering the Indians for

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Speaker 4: the Cleveland Playing Dealer. He's a beloved figure in the

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Speaker 4: BBWAA Baseball Writer Association. Great guy anyway, one year he

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Speaker 4: he wrote a first person column about the whole day.

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Speaker 4: How exciting it was getting picked up at the hotel

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Speaker 2: Roberts and the desk.

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Speaker 4: Some editor inserted, I took my seat next to ABC's

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 3: The inserted it in ad the wrong Robin Roberts, just

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Speaker 4: Tom.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I had the wrong Robin Roberts.

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Speaker 4: That's a great story.

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Speaker 2: That's good.

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Speaker 1: Woke him up just before midnight?

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Speaker 2: Did he fix your typo?

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Speaker 1: He did not, And then I called Robin Smith after that,

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Speaker 2: By the way, Robin Roberts an absolute jem. What a

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Speaker 2: His grandson looked like him. His name is was it Seth?

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Speaker 2: I can't. I'm sorry, I don't. I don't remember his name.

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Speaker 2: But it was so cool, man, It was really neat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a great, great weekend. Of course, the

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Speaker 1: let's talk Joan to Ron and let's do it with

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Speaker 1: the park's first pitch. First Pitch is brought to us

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Speaker 1: Joan Duran a lot of I mean, really, the weekend

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Speaker 1: could not have gone any better for by all parties.

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Speaker 1: So much fun. Friday night. You could when the Phillies

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, we're going to see the entrance, We're

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Speaker 1: going to see deron this is and then and then

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Speaker 1: you hear the gong going on. Not a bell, it's

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Speaker 1: on everybody's phone. He comes in, four pitches, four splinkers.

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Speaker 2: Four straight ninety eight mile an hour splinkers.

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Speaker 1: That is sick and one was one hundred one what's

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Speaker 1: Sunday night. I mean, what are you guys? Early first

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Speaker 1: impressions of the Durantola experience.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad that he finally showed us a fastball Sunday night.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean quite literally.

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Speaker 4: I mean that was the fastest pitch ever thrown by

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Speaker 4: a Philly I think it. I might not be off base, Ruben,

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Speaker 4: you might want to jump me for this, but that.

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Speaker 1: Might be the best stuff, pure stuff.

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Speaker 4: In the history of the Phillies organization, the stuff that

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Speaker 4: comes off this guy's fingertips.

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Speaker 3: I don't disagree with you man, as far as just

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Speaker 3: pure velocity and movement.

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Speaker 2: And the guys throw harder than ever now and you.

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Speaker 3: not just that he throws super hard.

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Speaker 2: He does throw strikes with.

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Speaker 3: It, and he's confident with it. I mean, you have

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Speaker 1: All right, we're back and it's it's Monday. It's time

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Speaker 1: It's the best, the best Manco, Manco Best Week, pick

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Speaker 1: Is anybody you guys want to name? Anybody who wants

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Speaker 4: Many candidates, many candidates.

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Speaker 2: No, go ahead, Jim, you know what.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep riding the Schwarber train.

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Speaker 4: And he keeps creeping up on the MVP chart for me,

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Speaker 4: We have a ton of candidates as well. I'll let

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Speaker 3: Shwarby had a huge, huge home run yesterday, man and

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Speaker 2: He just flicked at it. Man, high fastball.

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Speaker 3: He just he I'm telling you, man, he's the modern

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Speaker 2: And listen, if he's not somebody that people aren't considering

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Speaker 1: the first six games.

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Speaker 2: Is that a lot?

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Speaker 1: Not? In my mind? You know, three out of the

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Speaker 1: first six games is not a lot. Starting What do

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Speaker 1: you think is going on with the outfield situation? Do

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Speaker 1: you think this is just a short term thing, and

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Speaker 1: you know Rob's not going to come out and like

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Speaker 1: obviously lay out the plans, or do you think this

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Speaker 1: is my how they how they might run this outfield

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Speaker 1: situation with Arizon Vader the final couple months of the season.

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Speaker 4: I think he's I think he's gonna kind of evolve

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Speaker 4: into a regular in one of the two spots center

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Speaker 4: or or or left. I think I might be wrong here,

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Speaker 4: but it might be a player's manager wanting to give

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Speaker 4: Kepler a little more rope. And if he doesn't start producing,

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Speaker 4: we're going to see Crawford, and Crawford and Bader and

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Speaker 4: marsh are going to fill those two spots. So I

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Speaker 4: think it could be coming soon. I think we're reaching

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Speaker 4: a time when a decision will be made.

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Speaker 1: So but I do agree.

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Speaker 2: I do believe Baiter is gonna.

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Speaker 4: Have the chance to play a significant role in this

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Speaker 4: pen race.

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Speaker 3: So Bater's going to be the center fielder every day,

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Speaker 3: and he's going to do it starting in about five

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Speaker 3: more days. And I think, and I don't want to

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Speaker 3: like kill some someone's fate, but I do believe that

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Speaker 3: that the Kepler is going to be the guy that's

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Speaker 3: going to be the sort of the odd man out.

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Speaker 3: I believe that they're going to pratun Marsh and Otto

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Speaker 3: Kemp eventually in left field when Alec Bohme comes back

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Speaker 3: to play third base.

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Speaker 2: That's my feeling.

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Speaker 3: I've been thinking about this for a lot, for a

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Speaker 3: long time as a GM, as a manager, whatever the

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Speaker 3: case may be, that's your best team, I believe. And

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Speaker 3: unfortunately Kepler hasn't really come around. He's uh, he's had

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Speaker 3: some decent at bats at times. He's been productive at times.

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Speaker 3: But when you're hitting two hundred, it's a production. It's

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Speaker 3: a production businessman, and uh, I just think at at

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Speaker 3: some point you're gonna have to cut bait. And I

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Speaker 3: think it's gonna happen here pretty soon. And the timetable

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Speaker 3: for me is probably when Alet bohone gets back. As

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Speaker 3: you're getting close. Uh maybe it's a week, maybe it's

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Speaker 3: ten days. I don't think it's gonna be Crawford yet,

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Speaker 3: because I don't think he's gonna be playing center field

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Speaker 3: every day. I think beata is. I talked about it,

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Speaker 3: you know, I talked about that. I thought he was

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Speaker 3: gonna be coming in on August first. But it's clear

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Speaker 3: after getting bitter that they want somebody else in centerfield

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Speaker 3: because they're not ready to have Crawford be that center

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Speaker 3: fielder every day in this situation.

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Speaker 2: That's what I think is going to happen. And uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, I think it's a difficult situation.

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Speaker 3: For Kepler, but he really hasn't produced a way that

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Speaker 3: I thought he would, and that obviously the front office

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Speaker 3: and and the you know staff thought he would.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Bater's I mean, his splits this season lefty versus

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Speaker 1: rights are fairly similar than the Midler mid seven hundreds,

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Speaker 1: which isn't great, but it's a lot better than most

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Speaker 1: of the Phillies outfielders. Marsh Is hitting righty's pretty well,

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Speaker 1: seven sixty seven ops in the five hundreds against righty's. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and then you have Kepler. Kepler, It'd be one thing

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Speaker 1: if he had he was crushing right handed pitching, but

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Speaker 1: he's not. He's got an ops in the six sixties

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Speaker 1: against against righty's lefties. It's it's obviously way worse. He's

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Speaker 1: in the five hundreds against lefties. So uh, it's hard

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Speaker 1: to make the argument that you know, there's a platoon

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Speaker 1: advantage there by having Kepler and say kemp in left

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Speaker 1: field because Kepler's not producing against anybody. And I know

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Speaker 1: a couple was about a month ago in Houston. He

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Speaker 1: was saying he can't get in a rhythm. But you know,

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Speaker 1: at some point it's like, all right, you get your

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Speaker 1: you're playing a lot still.

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Speaker 4: So when you play against righties, you're playing a lot.

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Speaker 2: Right exactly right.

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Speaker 1: So uh, very interesting to see how it shakes out.

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Speaker 1: But I agree with you Ruby, and I think this

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Speaker 1: is Rob. When Rob said that on Friday, I know

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Speaker 1: it irritated a lot of people, but sometimes they just

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Speaker 1: have to say something without tipping off their plans to

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Speaker 1: the public, right, I mean.

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Speaker 2: Politically correct, man.

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Speaker 3: I never you know, sometimes when I when you guys

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Speaker 3: ask me question, I can't tell the truth, the whole truth,

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Speaker 3: and nothing but the truth right exactly.

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Speaker 1: And that's just the way it is. It doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: that that's one hundred percent what that guy is think. Yeah, Rubin,

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Speaker 1: there were definitely times when we're walking away going what

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Speaker 1: is this guy talking about? Exactly the way he believes

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Speaker 1: this or that makes no sense?

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Speaker 4: And correct coming out of the deadline, coming out of

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Speaker 4: the deadline that were facing righty lefty, righty lefty, righty,

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Speaker 4: lefty in six games, so that kind of made it

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Speaker 4: convenient to continue the platoon. But you know, Thursday's an

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Speaker 4: off day when you get through the Baltimore series, and

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Speaker 4: to me, that would be a time when they would

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Speaker 4: make this decision. So you don't think Crawford's coming. I

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Speaker 4: mean everything I hear. He's a better left fielder than

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Speaker 4: he is a center fielder. I mean, to me, he

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Speaker 4: could be in that left field mix, but.

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Speaker 2: You can't want a platoon him. I think they're gonna

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Speaker 2: go ahead and platoon Marsh and Auto Kemp out there

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Speaker 2: and left. That's my feeling.

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Speaker 3: I've been thinking about this a lot because Auto Kemp's

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Speaker 3: got to get.

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Speaker 2: A little bit further away from the baseball. He's not

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Speaker 2: a great defender at third base.

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Speaker 3: And that's the reason why he saw Sosa out there yesterday.

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Speaker 4: And Kemp is he's got a pretty good bat. As

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Speaker 4: he settles in, he does might see more. I mean

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Speaker 4: he had a couple. I mean Friday night, he comes

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Speaker 4: right at bat, huge two of them. Coolunch comes off the.

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Speaker 1: Bench and has two grated bats.

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Speaker 3: I love I love his I love his his instincts

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Speaker 3: at the plate.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a ballplayer.

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Speaker 1: I like him too.

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Speaker 4: He plays with some toughness and aggressiveness and he seems

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Speaker 4: to have, you know, crossed that line where you know

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Speaker 4: your guy out from Triple A and now it looks

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Speaker 4: like he really fits in.

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Speaker 2: So I like him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The Phillies guys open a three game series Monday

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Speaker 1: night against the Orioles. If you can't get down to

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Speaker 1: I love it, Phillies. Like I said, Open a three

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Speaker 1: game series Monday Night against the Orioles. Monday Night, six

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Speaker 1: forty five. First pitch, Jesu so Zardo is going to

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Speaker 1: try to continue his success that he had last week

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Speaker 1: against the White Sox when he threw seven scoreless. Made

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Speaker 1: a little mechanical adjustment with this setup through all out

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Speaker 1: of the stretch his entire in between starts last week

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Speaker 1: against kde Povich Tuesday Night, six forty five, Taiwan Walker

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Speaker 1: against Dean Kremer and then Wednesday afternoon, I think it's

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Speaker 1: like a twelve forty five start if I'm not mistaken.

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Speaker 1: Rangers swore is against Trevor Rodgers, so you know, Philly's

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Speaker 1: trying to keep up with their They're not a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a role. I know they stumbled last week

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Speaker 1: against the White Sox, but they've won three out the

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Speaker 1: last four series they are. They have a half game

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Speaker 1: lead over the Mets in the National League East, So

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Speaker 1: interesting week with the Orioles coming into town. And also

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Speaker 1: keep an eye on kind of what's going on in

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Speaker 1: the minor leagues in that not only justin Crawford and

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Speaker 1: not only Andrew Painter, but David Robertson is getting closer

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Speaker 1: to coming back. He's been okay so far. The numbers

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Speaker 1: haven't been great, but the velo is like ninety two

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Speaker 1: to ninety three is. He threw thirty pitches the other

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Speaker 1: day and Rob tom according to Rob Thompson, he bounced

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Speaker 1: back really well from that, and David was pretty optimistic

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Speaker 1: and felt really good about the fact that he threw

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Speaker 1: thirty pitches and bounce back pretty well. So keep an

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Speaker 1: eye on that. Joe Ross is getting closer to coming back.

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Speaker 1: Jose Alvarado is going to be at the ballpark on

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Speaker 1: Monday and is going to head out to Lehigh Valley

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Speaker 1: soon after that. So there's a lot of kind of

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Speaker 1: moving pieces, guys, and the bullpen could look a lot

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Speaker 1: different this week and certainly in the next couple weeks

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Speaker 1: once Robertson Alvarado joined the team and Ross and you know.

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Speaker 3: Think about it, there's five guys who are coming back.

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Speaker 3: Five they're getting five more players. That's a lot on

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Speaker 3: their twenty six man roster. Boma is coming back, Alvarado

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Speaker 3: will be back. You talked about Ross, Robertson's gonna be ready.

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Speaker 3: I mean you're talking about, you know, pretty significant change

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Speaker 3: in this overall roster. And it will be really interesting

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Speaker 3: to see if Boem can actually be the four hole

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Speaker 3: hitter that they need, because while JT's swinging ap fairly

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Speaker 3: well right now, he's not your prototypical protection for the.

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Speaker 1: For the four hole. Well, guys, we'll be back later

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Speaker 1: this week. That was fun.

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Speaker 4: Smell of the lady boys smelling Jim.

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