WEBVTT - 2024 First Round Draft Recap 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:05.640 Rid the first pick in the twenty twenty four NFL Draft. 0:00:06.640 --> 0:00:13.920 The Chicago Bears select Haleb William quarterback Tayler Kilifornia Washington 0:00:13.960 --> 0:00:20.360 Commander select Jayden Daniels quarterback LSU. The New England Patriots 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:27.200 select Drake May quarterback North Carolina. We'redney eighth pick in 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:31.639 the twenty twenty four NFL Draft. The LANTFL Can select 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:34.320 Michael Powell junior. 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:35.239 Well, there it is. 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:43.279 Who why The Minnesota Vikings select JJ McCarthy Michigan. The 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:46.159 Denver Broncos select Boo Knicks. 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:48.879 It is quarterback Oregon. 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:54.960 Six for twelve, six quarterbacks in the first dozen picks. 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:59.200 To quote Rambo, they're all gone, sir. Prior to tonight. 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:03.200 Offensive players to start the draft before we saw our 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:05.720 first defensive player taken. With the record and we have 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:10.080 doubled it fourteen. That record may never be broken. And 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:12.880 you'd have to say six quarterbacks in the first twelve 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:16.040 picks is something that will never be broken as well. 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:23.640 Woo from the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's around the NFL. 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:28.800 The twenty twenty four NFL Draft is underway and we 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:32.360 are through one round and tonight we are here to 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:37.360 recap all of the madness, and oh my goodness, was 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:42.280 it mid Dan Hans is here, Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler, 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:47.080 you heard it there the face Rich Eisen NFL network 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:50.640 coverage of the big day from Detroit, where there were 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:53.840 two hundred and seventy five thousand people there is that 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:54.600 a real number. 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:57.640 So crazy to believe that they had to stop letting 0:01:57.680 --> 0:01:58.920 people in an hour before the. 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:04.240 Draft possible to seventy five anyway, that breaks the all 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:09.080 time Day one draft record. That's at yep. Mark here. 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:12.720 It was your era of pro wrestling, the old Pontiac Silverdome. 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:16.079 They packed ninety three k in for WrestleMania three when 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:17.800 Hogan body slammed Andre the Giant. 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:19.680 I do recall that actual event. 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:24.079 So Detroit goes big and they did it again, and yeah, 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:29.680 six quarterbacks go in the first twelve picks and draft record. 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:33.040 Seven wide receivers go in the first round. 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:37.880 The offensive lineman also a heralded group, wiped out in 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:43.079 the first round. So and Greg Rosenthal, as you heard 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:47.520 fourteen offensive players go off the board before the first 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:50.480 defensive players. So, I mean, we talked about these things, 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:52.920 and these the way it seemed to be shaping up, 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:54.880 but it never goes that extreme. 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:57.760 So this has been the draft of extremes so far. 0:02:57.880 --> 0:02:59.840 I woke up this morning, I went and I was 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:02.160 so excited for this draft in a way, and I thought, like, 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:03.920 is this just because the Patriots at you know, have 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:07.000 the number three overall pick or it really does seem 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:09.440 like the most intriguing jets A lot of juice, like 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:11.480 a lot of juice, and then for it to deliver 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:15.200 like that yet another record twenty three offensive players in 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:19.200 the first and at least speaking for myself, I'm basic 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:21.360 when it comes to draft. I'm more interested in the 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:24.040 skill position players. Of course, offensive players includes all those 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:26.799 tackles coming off the board. But I kept getting flashback, 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:29.560 especially when bow Knicks got picked back to twenty eleven, 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:31.720 which to me was one of the most exciting drafts. 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:33.919 Two thousand and four was another one, and in twenty 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:38.600 eleven was the one where I believe five quarterbacks went 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:40.560 in the first round. Maybe it was four, and then 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:43.800 it was Kaepernick and Dalton and car early in the 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:47.120 second two and it was just like six quarterbacks very early. 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:50.920 This was like that except on mescalin or something. With 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:53.280 bo Knicks going twelve and it going that fast. 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:56.600 Yeah, I mean to have six go and the Raiders, 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:58.680 for instance, not be a team that takes one of them. 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:02.640 It speaks the fact that a lot of teams had 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:06.440 deep quarterback needs and like, I like, it's there's risk 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:08.400 there for sure, But I would look at this like this, 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:12.320 the fourteen consecutive players that threw me like on offense 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:13.720 because I thought at some point you're gonna get your 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:15.800 Dallas Turner or Verse or someone in there. 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:18.440 But nothing. I don't find the rest of it that surprising. 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:20.520 For like a month plus two months, we've been talking 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:23.880 about like huge amount of quarterbacks go, best wide receiver 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:26.080 class we've seen in ages and a great tackle class, 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:27.480 our offensive line class. 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:30.080 It's where they go, and it's the after shocks. And 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:33.240 in the place everyone thought defense was gonna go was Atlanta. 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:34.200 I know we're going to get. 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:36.160 To all the picks, but it is these little after 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:39.480 shocks that needs the little reports afterwards, and you mentioned it. 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:41.279 I think it was a perfect storm. All these teams 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:44.360 and Danna Jeremiah pointed out needed offense and a lot 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:48.760 of them needed quarterbacks. Our guy James Palmer reported after 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:51.559 the DAFT that Seahawks, Saints, and Raiders were all trying 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:53.479 to get up for Pennix. And that's one of the 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:56.680 reasons why Atlanta didn't feel like they could move back 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:57.480 at all. 0:04:57.560 --> 0:04:59.280 That we had mentioned, yeah. 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:02.039 That many team teams we're in on quarterbacks weight And 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:02.840 he didn't even get it. 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:04.640 Mark, Mark just say I did. 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:08.360 It's okay, well, because I'll say we because it's you know, 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:09.920 it's just information that was out there. 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:13.120 I didn't like talk directly. You said, you said it, 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:15.560 and then actually he dismissed it. Yes, he dismissed. I 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:18.880 don't say I said that, and Greg, you dismissed. 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:20.000 That's how the show works. 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:24.680 I said, second, d take your glory lap Mark, remember 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:28.480 oh land Zierline, love the guy. He hung up the 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:31.919 phone when you suggested Michael Pennox could go early in 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:34.200 the first round. I think we should start there. And 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:36.200 we're going to get to the top of the first 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:39.120 round of the very tippy top which went chalky but 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:43.120 still important for obvious reasons. But I think in all 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:47.479 my years here with this company, and uh, and that's 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:52.560 a while now, I've never been more confounded and stunned 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:58.839 by a pick like the Atlanta Falcons, fresh off giving 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:07.800 a massive contract to a thirty six year old Kirk Cousins, finally, 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:11.520 once and for all addressing the quarterback position that has 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:13.919 hexed them since Matt Ryan got old and then left 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:19.640 and eventually retired last week. To take Michael Pennox junior 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:24.000 eighth overall is an absolute stunner, and it's a stunner 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:30.280 to obviously every everyone that yes, I agree Greg, everyone 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:34.280 that has been following this process. Obviously the Falcons weren't 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:36.719 going to take a quarterback. It makes no sense. I 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:38.960 want somebody to make sense of it. To me, is 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:42.480 there anyone in this room that could help me and 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:46.640 other people? Like many Falcons fans, I presume absolutely Kirk Cousins, 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:49.599 because we're already hearing reports that he was really stunned 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:52.200 by the news and was made aware of their decision 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:53.719 making minutes before it happened. 0:06:55.240 --> 0:07:00.520 Why I have my questions about Michael Pennix As a prospers, 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:04.440 I have been trying to lead the take your quarterbacks 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:07.880 as much as possible. You can't take quarterbacks too much, 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:11.240 too high, too many resources, always defending the Patriots when 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:12.880 they would take a second round pick on a backup 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:16.040 defending the Packers when they took Jordan Love, which a 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:19.200 pick that got made fun of for multiple years by 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:22.920 the way after they did it. And this one stunned 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:26.200 me because Penix didn't seem like that level of a prospect, 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:28.280 but they obviously believe in him. And then you think 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:30.720 about the Cousins contract, and here's how it makes sense, Dan, 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:31.880 it's a two year contract. 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:32.480 Mm hmm. 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:35.800 I think that's it. That it's a two year contract. 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:39.400 Penix is being signed for a five year contract. And 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:44.360 they said afterwards, they being Raheem Morris, we won't be 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:47.240 picking this high with the guy that we have and 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:50.160 Kirk Cousins trying to pick up his guy. We don't 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:52.440 want to be picking up here anymore. They plan to 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:57.160 be a very good team starting right now, and they 0:07:57.200 --> 0:07:59.440 want to get their quarterback of the future in the 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:03.880 building right now. And I don't think it's crazy. First 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:06.280 of all, Kirk Cousins is coming off a torn Achilles. 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:08.920 That's like a little under the radar. 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:11.560 Right, four years, one hundred and eighty millions, A two years, 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:15.960 one hundred guaranteed two year contract you had, it's all guaranteed, 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:19.400 A hundred million dollar guarantee to that man to be 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:20.120 your quarterback. 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:22.920 So but those are it's all in the first two years. 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:25.480 They have ten million dollars in the third year, and 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:27.760 if he's great, then that's great. Then you have your 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:30.480 quarterback solution and you have Kirk Cousins and you have 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:33.120 someone by. I don't think it's that crazy, especially when 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:35.360 half the picks bust in the top ten anyways, Like 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:38.520 people act like it's so crazy to like invest in 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:40.120 a pick you might not use when when a lot 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:40.920 of the picks don't work. 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:42.200 I agree with you. 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:46.400 I do understand, like if you're the nuts, sure, maybe, 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:48.600 But and I get that there's a Falcons fan sitting 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:50.840 out there thinking we could have taken Roma Dunze, we 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:53.440 could have taken the best pass rusher. That's fine, and 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:56.319 that's that's not incorrect thinking in terms of how the 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:59.400 draft works and how people respond. But Pennix is the 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:03.360 perfect guy to slow cook behind Kirk Cousins for a 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:06.520 year plus. I don't hate the idea, And if he 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:09.680 is what some people think it can be, I think 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:12.400 this says a lot about Arthur Blank, who has been 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:15.720 in a quarterback wilderness since they annoyed Matt Ryan by 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:19.079 chasing after Deshaun Watson and lost Matt Ryan, and it's 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:21.880 been an abyss since, and I think it's planning for 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:22.400 the future. 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:22.920 People. 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:24.920 When you draft someone in the top ten, people want 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:28.000 someone who will start and affect games right away, and 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:30.960 I think that's where the disappointment could come from, especially 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:32.560 when you're going to track and see how some of 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:35.960 these other players perform. But we don't exactly know what 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:39.000 Kirk Cousins is at this point, and it is really 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:41.640 only a two year situation. And you can point to 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:45.000 Patrick Mahomes, you can point to Aaron Rodgers, you can 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:48.040 point to Jordan Love as guys that you bring in 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:50.520 that sit for a while and then they shine. And 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:53.320 I think Pennix is a good candidate to benefit from that. 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:59.080 Now let's point out those are good examples, but Patrick 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:04.280 Mahomes is arguably the greatest quarterback ever. Jordan Love coming 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:07.640 off obviously a big year, But in general, this is 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:10.840 not something This is not really how the league operates anymore. 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:13.160 When you take a quarterback, and especially if you take 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:17.160 him this high, he's expected to play, and that doesn't 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:19.720 mean he should, and that doesn't mean that's a bad pick. 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:22.920 The reason my thinging is if you really love this guy, 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:27.120 Michael Pennix, they do, you haveft them, but don't sign 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:28.200 Kirk Cousins. 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:32.760 Like or sign Kirk Cousins. It wasn't that long ago. 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:35.040 I mean, but like, I think the thing is, the 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:38.800 off season happens in waves and in chapters. And yes, 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:40.760 you can say these two things shouldn't have happened to 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:43.960 the same team in the same offseason. But a year 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:46.600 from now, six months from now, if Kirk Cousins is injured, 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:47.679 like this looks great, and. 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:50.240 So you head your bets on Cousins, Well, but you didn't. 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:56.360 Really the Cousins is a short term veteran solution at quarterbacks. 0:10:56.400 --> 0:10:59.120 Let me tell you that's also have a problem. It's 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:02.800 turning twenty four in two weeks. I think that's a 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:08.640 good point. So that is also so now like, unless 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:12.360 Cousins is a disaster, an injury riddle disaster, which is possible, 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.800 he's not even touching the field now as he's edging 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:19.000 into his late twenties. I just I don't, I just don't. 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.439 It doesn't make sense to me. And here's the thing. 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:25.200 When you do invest we can talk about all this thing, like, 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:27.440 it's not a long term signing, but it was a 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:29.319 major signing for this organization. 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:31.640 And when you invest that. 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:34.200 Much in a player like Cousins, you're expecting him to 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:36.679 be there two years at least, and then if he's 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:39.679 playing at a high level, maybe beyond that. Okay, And 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:42.800 then what you do, like my team the Jets, like 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:46.079 you need to with his window that you just opened 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:48.440 with Kirk Cousins, you got to build around him right now, 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:50.000 and you have a chance to bring in the guy 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:52.680 that goes off next off the board, Roma Duneesa, like 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:55.280 that would have been a very logical move for them. 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:58.079 Now does this now does Michael Penick Junior turn into 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:00.439 a stud? Maybe? But here's the other thing. 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:03.120 He is a very raw prospect and it's a total 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:06.200 right and why at the very least, Greg my last 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:07.360 point of this, then I'll shut up. 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:11.240 No, I think this could move fascinated move back, Well, 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:14.640 I don't think they could base boy he's not there. 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:17.280 If he's not there, it's not like you're left hold 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:17.720 in the bag. 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:20.040 You still have Kirk Cousins in the building, and this 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:22.080 you could take a gambit and say, maybe we can 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.400 make it work. Out it was overly aggressive, and I 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:27.280 think it speaks to a lot organizationally in the last 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:27.880 few years. 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:30.559 I don't think they know what they're doing Ultimately. 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:33.080 Well, I disagree everyone's saying, oh, this is a ready 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:36.000 made I don't think they're there yet. But you're saying 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:37.840 you got to hit this window right now. It's like, 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:43.440 I want to applaud teams that value the quarterback position correctly. 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:45.520 The reason they're making all this money is because it's 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:48.200 worth so much more than the rest. So I don't 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:51.520 think you can invest too much in the position. And 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:54.680 the idea that like, we want to set our franchise 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:58.280 up for eight years, for ten years to be good 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:02.680 at the moment that her cousins inevitably starts to decline. 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:05.160 He's not going to be a great player at thirty eight. 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:06.920 He might not be a great player this year at 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:10.560 thirty six. That's another conversation. And so you try to 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:13.400 set up a situation. And Rahiem Morris said it. He said, 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:16.120 we took note of the Green Bay model. So they 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:18.720 they were looking at that. It does make you wonder 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:20.040 and you were talking about I did. 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:21.440 It's a different situation. 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:24.520 Greg Aaron Rodgers is a franchise legend that was there 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:26.960 forever sure, whereas. 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:28.560 Kirk Cousins, so they sought out two months. 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:30.400 The point is, though I don't think it's crazy, and 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:32.559 I know the Patriots didn't use a first round pick, 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:35.480 but he was multiple seconds to back up Brady, Like 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:39.200 the position is just so valuable that you almost can't 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:42.680 spend too many resources on it. I have some issues 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:48.000 just with Penix as a prospect. Seems very divisive, not 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:51.520 incredibly accurate, like a great arm and old school quarterback, 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:53.200 kind of like Kirk Cousins is in a way, but 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:55.640 more like a Joe Flacco type of. 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:57.640 Model that was Daniel Jeremiah's comfort. 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:00.640 And I totally see that when you watch him, like 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:03.559 he gets super hot, he's a big time arm he's 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:07.080 a pocket passer. Is he is he gonna be the player? 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:09.719 I don't know, but the process I kind of like it. 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:12.240 And you mentioned the age. A couple of people hit 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:14.000 me up on Twitter with that too. It's like, well, 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:16.160 but you're thinking about the next seven years. What's wrong 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:19.280 with a quarterback coming in when he's twenty six years old, 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:21.960 Like you're thinking about a guy that's gonna try to 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:25.280 last for a while. And I actually like the Atlanta 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:29.800 Falcons thinking long term, thinking a little differently process wise. 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:32.360 I just hope Pennix is a good enough player to 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:33.640 make them look right. 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:35.920 You also need him to hit the ground running like 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:37.920 Jordan Love so like wait, but. 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:39.760 That has to be a polished player when he gets 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:40.760 there or wait. 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:43.320 Love was as raw as it gets and he looked 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:44.160 right totally. 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:46.320 I'm saying, ready for multiple you need him. 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:48.840 That's hard to do what the Packers have done, and 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:51.200 they've proven it now over twenty five years. They know 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:53.720 how to do this. The Falcons saying we want to 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:56.080 be like the Packers of this. You need Penix not 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:59.240 only now to likely sit for two years. When he 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:01.880 enters the friend he needs immediately be a difference maker. 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:03.840 And if he's not, if it takes him a couple 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:05.960 of years, guess what, his rookie deal's almost over. Well. 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:08.480 And it's also like you know, sixty five percent of 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:10.440 other draft picks in the first round that don't work. 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:12.240 I mean, it's like, I don't have a problem with this, 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:15.880 and this is another outlier scenario, but it reminds me 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:19.000 a little bit of when the Cowboys under Jimmy Johnson 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:23.720 drafted Troy Aikman, and you know, terrible first season team 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:27.800 was terrible. The next year they go out, Jimmy Johnson 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:31.080 turns around and drafts Steve Walsh, his former college quarterback. 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:35.440 Totally agitated Troy Aikman, who is his guy, Roddy Johnson's guy. 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:38.040 He wanted was to win that game, right. But then 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:41.160 they turn around and they had two quarterbacks. Troy Aikman's developing, 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:44.280 the team's getting better. They turn around and traded Steve Walsh, 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:46.440 who really never did anything as a pro for a lot. 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:48.240 I'm just saying, that's another thing you could do at 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:51.239 some point. His move Michael Pennix. It's just a possibility. 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:54.000 Move Kirk Cousins or move Kirk Cousins. But there's one 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:55.840 other thing about this version of the Falcons that I 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:58.800 like is that no one knew this was coming. 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:01.360 There's no leaks inside building. I mean, we knew there 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:01.920 was reporting. 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:04.760 They liked Penix a lot, we've known that, but no 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:06.600 one saw this coming number one. 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:09.680 Not a single Soul rap sheet had it in the 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:10.800 hour before the draft. 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:14.280 Give credit to him, he didn't say it was definitely happening, 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:16.560 but he pretty much threw it out there, like, don't 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:19.040 be surprised if Penix goes to the Falcons, so right 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:20.840 before the draft, and that was the first I had 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:24.520 heard even one person mentioned the stunning. The problem is though, 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:26.960 though they are human beings here, and you mentioned the 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:30.960 Cousins part of it. So our guy rap sheet reported, 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:34.760 you know, he got a call like while the Falcons 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:37.040 were on the clock to let him know. But you know, 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:40.240 DJ and then also the athletics that I never seen it, 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:43.000 you know, kind of mentioned like the agent. Yeah, it 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:46.160 was a surprise coming into tonight. Cousins had no idea. 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:48.520 I think they used the word stunned. And these are 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:51.800 two people, and Cousins especially that are going to have 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:55.240 to go and work together. Cousins is coming off an injury, 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:56.440 so I don't know if he's gonna be He's not 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:58.560 gonna be ready to be on the field right now, 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:00.320 like when they go to OTA is in a couple weeks, 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:02.960 it's going to be Pedix with the starting now will. 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:04.400 Be his moment for the you know, the next couple 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:06.720 of years. He'll have that OTA in the spring of Dude. 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:08.720 Well, it's a little awkward because you you did mention 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:10.959 like if he got to be ready. The funny thing 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:13.520 about Penix is he should be about as ready as 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:17.520 anyone he's played. He started forty eight games over five seasons. 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:20.680 But he's not ready for him. But what I'm saying 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:22.560 is you've got a guy that's playing, ready to play, 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:25.000 that's not going to play. I'm saying he might. I 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:26.280 think it's been a little. 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:30.400 Who's crying for Taylor Heinecke Greg Taylor Heineke like who 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:33.199 took a hometown discount to stay with the Falcons? Is 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:35.480 you know, take the next bus next, gray hump, bustle. 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:36.119 We got to move on. 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:38.679 But you two are not going to You're never going 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:40.280 to agree Dan, You're not going to agree with Greg, 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:41.639 And it's not so I don't. 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:43.200 But I just want to point out that no one's 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:46.199 kind of brought up the fact that why are we 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:49.040 assuming Kirk Cousins is ready for Week one at thirty 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:50.760 six years old coming out of torn achilles. 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:52.159 It's like the human body, And. 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:55.960 I would say the in recent years players that have 0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:56.960 that injury are ready. 0:17:57.040 --> 0:17:58.840 Now he could have a setback or whatever. 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:01.000 And well they didn't get that money thinking he's not 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:01.960 going to be many too. 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:03.520 I'm just saying maybe. 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:06.080 There's something we don't know about Cousins, and maybe he 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:08.200 had a setback. Maybe there's something more to the story. 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:12.159 But my last point is I don't think Cousins obviously 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:14.240 isn't happy. I don't think Michael Penox is happy either. 0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:16.840 He's happy he's a first round pick, but he went 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:18.000 somewhere he's not gonna play. 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:19.560 That's not great either. 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:21.560 And if you'd see him when he picks up the phone, 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:23.560 you could see in his mind he's like, wait, what's 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:25.480 going on. His agent probably was like, all right, you're 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:27.520 going to the team that just signed a guy for 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:29.760 one hundred million guaranteed over the next two years. But 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:31.760 it's cool, you're a top ten pick. Like it's a 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:34.040 bittersweet moment I would imagine for Michael Penis Junior. 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:35.760 Sure from one other angle though, from like a more 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:38.120 cutthroat angle, like there are people that were mocking him 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:39.160 to the second round. 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:42.240 He's getting top eight. No, that's great, So that's great. 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:45.199 And honestly, like if he does a Jordan love thing 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:46.600 where you know, a couple of seasons from now, he 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:48.840 comes in and shines like he gets his fifth year 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:52.440 option picked up too, there's less bad tape or raw 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:55.200 tape potentially to learn behind cousins. 0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:57.880 Right, I am a little worried about him, although Jordan 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:00.159 Love was a tricky prospect a surprising pick too, and 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:02.879 that worked out when last my last thing is just 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:09.919 the video of Terry Fontana talking to Arthur Blank in 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:14.720 their war room was a fascinating video. I really want 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:16.879 to know. It really sounded like he was trying to 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:19.000 like explain the pick. Because when this pick happened, I 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:21.520 was like, is this ownership because we've heard how Blank 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:23.720 wants his guy his quarterback, and I was like, is 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:26.400 ownership kind of making them take a quarterback of the future, 0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:29.240 like based on what we've heard over over the last 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:31.800 few years, like you know Arthur Blank could be involved. 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:35.760 But then this image of Fontan though almost like going 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:37.960 through and explaining and then he was like moving it down. 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:40.080 It was almost like he was to me, if I 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:42.800 had to guess, was explaining, like why we couldn't trade 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:45.720 back to maybe take panics Arthur Blank. 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:49.240 In nineteen forty two. I would imagine he, you know, 0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:51.440 he's a guy that's looking for some results this year, 0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:53.679 and yes, the player that they added this year, probably 0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:54.720 can't help them this year. 0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:59.720 So wild all right. So that's like the big crazy 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:01.760 story that came out of the day. 0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:04.960 But and we told you about the overall numbers and 0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:07.440 the bulk of certain positions. Let's start at the top 0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:11.280 of the draft, and so it's Caleb Williams as expected 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:14.280 to the Bears, Jaden Daniels as expected to the Commanders, 0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:19.280 Drake may as expected to the Patriots. A takeaway, let's 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:23.760 check out, by the way, Caleb Williams. And good job 0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:28.920 by our company, which has blown this draft thing up 0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:31.200 into things that I can't even wrap my head around 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:33.160 as someone that used to go to Radio City Music 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:35.600 Hall sure years ago. What it is now compared to 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:37.760 what it was then, it's absurd. So now all the 0:20:37.800 --> 0:20:38.520 guys run down there. 0:20:38.560 --> 0:20:40.280 I don't think they want you to use the word absurd, 0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:42.600 but you can in a positive that's a positive absurd. 0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:46.399 There's a twenty five yard runway with a matching color 0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:48.520 scheme for the player, and then they get their hat 0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:49.159 and their jersey. 0:20:49.160 --> 0:20:50.120 It's the whole thing. 0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:53.720 It's it's made for television, like the halftime show for 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:56.200 the Super Bowl. Here's Caleb Williams and check this out 0:20:56.200 --> 0:20:59.720 on YouTube if you haven't seen it. Speed walking down 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:03.399 and then letting out a big old Rick flair. 0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:06.200 He's about to put a Bear's hat on and introduce 0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:09.280 himself to the world and head to Michigan Avenue. 0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:10.840 He might not have ran aup Fort in Indy, but 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:13.000 he's running one here. I mean, he is flying up there. 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:15.040 He's excited to get this journey started. 0:21:21.040 --> 0:21:24.760 He really sold me both the way he came out there, 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:27.440 the way he spoke in his interviews. 0:21:27.520 --> 0:21:29.680 Just seems like a dude. Yeah. 0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:33.800 He also had that how he finished his interview with 0:21:34.119 --> 0:21:38.760 Kaylee Hartong making her NFL Network debut the Bears. 0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:41.640 That was how he finished that. Yeah. I loved that. 0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:43.960 And we don't have to spend a ton of time, 0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:47.040 I know, but I man, we just haven't talked that 0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:49.560 much about Caleb Williams and when we say like he 0:21:49.560 --> 0:21:52.280 can make every throw, like I mean like every throw. 0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:54.840 And I heard Ollie Connelly talk about it on his 0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:57.480 podcast and I thought it was really smart the way 0:21:57.520 --> 0:22:00.800 he put it that, like one drive he can kind 0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:02.480 of look like Mahomes and then the next drive he 0:22:02.520 --> 0:22:04.679 can kind of look like Manning. And then you watch 0:22:04.720 --> 0:22:07.199 how he navigates in the pocket and that reminds you 0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:09.879 of the very best people in terms of inside the pocket. 0:22:09.880 --> 0:22:12.159 And he has the experience with the RPO and he 0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:14.200 has the quick release. He just feels like he has 0:22:14.280 --> 0:22:16.359 every single club in the bag and he kind of 0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:19.040 brings out different things based on what he needs. And 0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:22.520 it's just I'm I am very excited to watch me 0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:24.960 some caleable and he's just so accurate. He's the most 0:22:25.000 --> 0:22:26.840 accurate guy in the last year. So it's like no 0:22:26.960 --> 0:22:29.240 prospect is perfect or whatever, but I am so excited 0:22:29.280 --> 0:22:31.879 to watch this dude. It's gonna be a value add 0:22:31.880 --> 0:22:33.800 for the league. I think we saw that with his personality, 0:22:33.840 --> 0:22:35.480 and I'm excited that I get to watch him with 0:22:35.520 --> 0:22:36.600 Roma Doonzay. 0:22:36.240 --> 0:22:39.600 Well and he's you know, it's what an incredible introduction 0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:41.919 from an NFC North standpoint. He's coming out there and 0:22:41.920 --> 0:22:45.960 he's booed lustily by Lions fans who have packed the place. 0:22:46.240 --> 0:22:47.840 He doesn't seem to care at all, and it's like 0:22:48.000 --> 0:22:50.760 you have to go back to nineteen forty seven and 0:22:50.960 --> 0:22:53.679 Bob Fenimore, the Blonde Bomber, the last time that the 0:22:53.680 --> 0:22:55.600 Bears picked a quarterback first. 0:22:55.320 --> 0:22:57.080 Overall that's crazy. 0:22:57.240 --> 0:23:00.119 That's there's no team coming close to that stuff, I 0:23:00.160 --> 0:23:03.280 would imagine, and I do think it matters that on 0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:06.360 USC there's a lot of like ballyhooed USC stuff. When 0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:08.199 they brought in the new coach, it's like they were 0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:10.359 one hundred and twenty third in scoring defense. So he 0:23:10.480 --> 0:23:13.320 was under the gun to fire the ball down field 0:23:13.359 --> 0:23:14.920 over and over. I think as a deep passer, he's 0:23:14.960 --> 0:23:19.920 incredible that Bears haven't had someone like this in eons. 0:23:19.960 --> 0:23:22.280 It's like they feel like outside Fields had that one 0:23:22.359 --> 0:23:24.000 nice season, but it's like this is a team that 0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:25.480 kind of even when they went to the Super Bowl 0:23:25.480 --> 0:23:28.760 against the Colts, it's like always minus the star quarterback. 0:23:28.800 --> 0:23:30.720 And I think it's a completely new organization at this 0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:37.000 point because and I think, you know, I was at 0:23:37.000 --> 0:23:39.679 the end of last season. I still think Justin Fields 0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:41.680 has a chance to have a really good career, and 0:23:41.720 --> 0:23:44.600 we'll see what happens in Pittsburgh or wherever he ends 0:23:44.680 --> 0:23:49.280 up being potentially as a long term solution for somebody. 0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:52.760 But when you see a player like this and you 0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:55.879 start to really dig in on his background and you 0:23:55.960 --> 0:23:57.879 see the way he came out there, it's like, Okay, 0:23:57.920 --> 0:24:01.080 this guy is someone that you're you hit the reset 0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:03.440 with him, and then you pair him, like we said, 0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:06.280 with the number nine pick after the Falcons stun the 0:24:06.280 --> 0:24:09.600 world and take a quarterback. That leaves this great prospect 0:24:09.880 --> 0:24:12.960 Roma Dunza, who some people say, you know, Marvin Harrison 0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:14.560 who goes forth to the Cardinals. We'll get you in 0:24:14.640 --> 0:24:17.760 a second. He was the kind of clear cut number 0:24:17.760 --> 0:24:19.639 one guy. But people think that a Dunsee could be 0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:22.520 an absolute superstar. And now you got DJ Moore across 0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:26.000 from him, and you have what Bryce Young for example, 0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:30.080 did not have last year, which is a real supporting 0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:33.280 cast around him. So the Bears suddenly go from one 0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:35.000 of the most boring teams to watch over the last 0:24:35.040 --> 0:24:37.399 ten years or so, they are going to be kind 0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:39.439 of musty TV, at least in the beginning of the season. 0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:41.639 It happened quickly, and it's like the only thing I 0:24:41.680 --> 0:24:44.960 think they've got to focus on more offensive line help. 0:24:45.080 --> 0:24:47.800 They had the highest pressure rate in the league last year, 0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:50.880 so it's like that's one We saw fields getting destroyed 0:24:50.880 --> 0:24:52.960 by that over and over and it's like, that's not 0:24:53.119 --> 0:24:55.760 a wonderful thing for Caleb Williams. But they have done 0:24:55.840 --> 0:24:58.040 a lot in two off seasons, and that trade last 0:24:58.040 --> 0:25:00.840 offseason with the Panthers looks better and better and better 0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:01.600 by the minute. 0:25:01.440 --> 0:25:04.600 Right, they got very fortunate that the Panthers ended up 0:25:04.600 --> 0:25:06.560 being the worst team in the league like that. That 0:25:06.920 --> 0:25:08.840 They probably didn't think the Panthers were going to be good. 0:25:09.080 --> 0:25:11.399 So they were taking a shot and you're rolling. 0:25:11.440 --> 0:25:13.760 They nailed it. They're holding everything about it. You're hoping 0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:14.320 for the best. 0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:19.120 But they got, like, you know, one of the best 0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:22.320 quarterback prospects we've seen in a long time. And now 0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:24.480 Keenan Allen can play inside, by the way too, It's like, 0:25:25.160 --> 0:25:27.399 of course the Dunes then can move inside some pool 0:25:27.600 --> 0:25:30.600 and keen Allen can play outside the sid of course 0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:33.720 they're going to be flexible, but Alan is now at 0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:34.560 his best inside. 0:25:34.600 --> 0:25:36.720 You have come met there. DeAndre Swift was a nice 0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:37.080 pick up. 0:25:37.440 --> 0:25:41.120 They absolutely are going to see that over under, which 0:25:41.160 --> 0:25:43.000 was an eight and a half. I believe, like, I mean, 0:25:43.000 --> 0:25:44.800 that's just gonna with the Dunes. I just feel like 0:25:44.840 --> 0:25:45.560 that's going to keep. 0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:50.000 That division is has turned semi psychotic, all right. The Commanders, 0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:51.720 they do indeed take Jayden Daniels. 0:25:51.760 --> 0:25:55.960 Don't believe anything about them moving out of that pick, 0:25:56.000 --> 0:25:59.920 they take Daniels, so he is the future for Washington 0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:00.960 and then Greg. 0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:02.800 We could talk about both these players. 0:26:02.800 --> 0:26:06.080 But Drake May then goes to the Patriots, who apparently 0:26:06.119 --> 0:26:07.160 there was a report out there. 0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:09.520 It is an interesting report. Do you see this report? 0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:13.199 It was the Patriots and Vikings reached out to the 0:26:13.320 --> 0:26:14.800 Chargers about Justin Herbert. 0:26:15.440 --> 0:26:18.080 It cannot I loved, I loved. Yeah, it cannot hurt. 0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:20.280 This is from Adam Schefter, by the way, to kick 0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:24.000 the tires on that one. And just because Jim Harbaugh nuts, 0:26:24.200 --> 0:26:26.399 so you just like kick the tires, call the crazy 0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:26.800 guy and. 0:26:26.800 --> 0:26:28.560 Just see what he's what's going on with him? 0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:31.800 And and they were rebuffed obviously, and then they go 0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:34.120 back and they say, Okay, we're cool with this, dude. 0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:36.760 What do you think about this? Dude? You how excited 0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:37.840 are you? I am? Greg? 0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:42.480 I am ay ten. This is what I was hoping for. 0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:47.920 I love this Patriots, that Drake maywould fall to them. 0:26:48.000 --> 0:26:50.400 I didn't think it was gonna happen on Christmas Eve 0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:53.560 when they beat the Broncos in that weird game, and 0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:56.199 I was enjoying the game. You know, it's a lonely 0:26:56.280 --> 0:26:58.920 Christmas for me, and it's like the Patriots brought a 0:26:58.960 --> 0:27:00.640 little joy. I was like, it's worth it, but they're 0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:02.800 not gonna get Drake me now. And for Jade Daniels 0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:05.680 to become this consensus number two pick, and going into today, 0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:07.439 I was just worried they were gonna get too cute 0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:09.600 and trade down. It's like, when are you gonna have 0:27:09.760 --> 0:27:14.120 a legit, superstar potential quarterback sitting there? 0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:15.720 Hopefully you're not drafting that high. 0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:18.880 And when I watch him, he is just box office 0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:23.320 and he is an incredible runner. It wouldn't surprise me 0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:25.119 of all these guys who can all run well, if 0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:27.800 he has the most rushing value, if he's kind of 0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:31.200 a Jalen Hurts type of player early in his career, 0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:33.359 you can build a decent amount of the offense about 0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:36.280 his running and his deep passing, and that, to me 0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:39.520 is just an exciting offense. I'm glad it sounded like 0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:42.080 they never even considered it. You could tell Gared Mayo 0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:46.760 is totally different because he basically told the Patriots draft 0:27:46.760 --> 0:27:49.240 party an hour and a half before the draft, we're 0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:51.440 not trading the pick. We're just gonna you know, don't 0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:54.040 don't worry we're gonna make our pick early and. 0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:55.600 You're gonna like it. He's a great player. 0:27:55.600 --> 0:27:57.720 And it's like, Okay, I guess they're taking Drake May. 0:27:57.760 --> 0:28:00.000 They already were saying like that, they forget about the trade. 0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:00.840 We're not thinking about it. 0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:01.879 He's fascinating. 0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:04.240 He is someone that I think is going to be 0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:07.880 an immediate like fan favorite for his physical nature, play, 0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:09.199 what he can do on the ground. I mean, there 0:28:09.280 --> 0:28:12.760 is some there has been concern about like the little 0:28:12.800 --> 0:28:14.879 things that he's got to grow at and some of 0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:17.960 his like accuracy on passes that like he does these 0:28:17.960 --> 0:28:19.800 incredible things, but then he's like, wait a minute, what 0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:22.240 happened right there. It's almost like there is an aversion 0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:24.080 of like you want to see the way that Josh 0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:27.480 Allen grew in certain little ways when people would, you know, 0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:29.600 kind of were ready to throw Josh Allen out the window, 0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:32.840 like he improved, but he improved as a pro and 0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:36.600 that's but that's unusual, that's atypical, and so Drake May 0:28:36.680 --> 0:28:39.040 needs to do this have a similar growth pattern for 0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:40.160 certain elements of his game. 0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:42.520 But it's like this is like a whole new day 0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:42.960 for the PAVI. 0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:45.480 I don't see him as raw though as out like. 0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:47.240 I don't think he's as raw as everyone said. I 0:28:47.240 --> 0:28:48.640 think he did a lot of next level stuff. He 0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:50.800 was just in a brutal situation. He's about to be again. 0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:55.440 They they kind of have talked about already that that 0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:58.040 Jacoby Brissett, I have a feeling will be the weak 0:28:58.080 --> 0:29:00.000 one starter. We'll see it probably won't last that long. 0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:02.400 And it was funny you mentioned Josh Allen. I know 0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:04.840 you want to go Dan, but Bill Belichick was on 0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:09.520 McAfee and uh, he was quoted saying Drake compares himself 0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:11.280 a lot to Josh Allen. He's been doing that for 0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:12.600 quite a while. I haven't seen that a lot of 0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:15.560 people compare them. Did he Uh, we'll see about that. 0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:18.840 And then he kind of negged He kind of negged 0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:21.240 Drake may a little bit, but to be fair, he 0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:23.360 kind of neagged all the top five picks. That's when 0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:25.840 I watched the Belichick portion of the McAfee. He it 0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:27.960 was very different than the portion of the telecast where 0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:30.800 the audio was working for that the pre gate the 0:29:30.800 --> 0:29:34.080 pre you know, they had some snaffoos on YouTube and whatnot. 0:29:34.120 --> 0:29:36.680 But uh so I've heard he he. 0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:39.560 Was trying to really calm everyone down really about all 0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:41.720 the picks and pointing out the negatives, but especially May. 0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:44.280 He seemed to that's a fresh raw. Yeah, I thought 0:29:44.320 --> 0:29:45.840 the uh what did it? 0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:47.600 Was he freaking out about Panix? Like ever notes? 0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:51.640 I left. I left the that telecast around pick five. 0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:55.200 Much for me, I was the company man. I was 0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:59.080 trying to watch both this is too hard, Okay. 0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:03.440 I was just curious if anyone else picked up on 0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:06.920 the NFL network. Uh, the way they were talking about 0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:09.440 Drake May is if it was almost a foregone conclusion 0:30:09.440 --> 0:30:12.080 that he wouldn't start, and that that they were going 0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:14.800 to bring him along slowly. And that's to what you're 0:30:14.840 --> 0:30:17.440 saying that I guess he needs polished in the eyes 0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:18.440 of some But. 0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:20.800 I just that doesn't really happen, like, well, that's like 0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:22.560 that means week three or week four. 0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:25.280 But Jacoby said, but that's not the way it was 0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:27.680 being discussed. It wasn't like he's going to start by 0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:30.800 October first. It kind of was being talked about like 0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:34.240 this going to bed. 0:30:33.200 --> 0:30:35.800 Saying though, like that's this this that's cool, until like 0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:37.160 they're zer and two right, I. 0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:39.440 Mean mac, No, but wait a second, we're not going 0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:41.080 back down the store. Michael Pennox isn't going in the 0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:42.080 lineup if Kark cousins. 0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:43.960 I know, but I'm saying to your point that Penix 0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:46.480 is away, to your argument that it's you're not getting 0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:49.280 someone who's going to help you right away like Drake May, 0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:51.880 is completely different if they're in. If they're right there water, 0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:53.680 Drake May is going to be in the lineup by 0:30:53.680 --> 0:30:55.680 halftime a week one, potentially. I don't want to hear 0:30:55.720 --> 0:30:58.800 this sitting for a year as a starter behind Jacobys. 0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:01.840 Yeah, and I don't what I mean think Mac Jones 0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:03.880 played a lot as a rookie, play played pretty well, 0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:05.040 Like I don't. 0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:06.320 It is rookie. 0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:09.440 If they're if they're good enough coaching staff like he 0:31:09.760 --> 0:31:11.760 will be playing. There's there's no reason to be. 0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:13.800 That that pay it no mind what people say about 0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:16.800 rookies waiting on the bench, and almost all cases they 0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:20.400 end up playing very quickly. Now Marvin Harrison Junior yes 0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:21.520 goes to the Cardinals. 0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:22.160 Uh. 0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:25.080 For overall, a lot of discussion about them moving back 0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:29.320 and letting a QB needy team trade up. They obviously 0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:33.200 did not have either the interest to make that move 0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:35.000 or they didn't get an offer that they liked, so 0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:37.120 they sit home, and this is something I thought they 0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:37.920 should have done all along. 0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:39.200 I thought I thought it was the right move. 0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:42.560 You get yourself a potential superstar wide receiver pairing with 0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:46.360 Kyler Murray, who, despite being under contract for big money, 0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:50.120 is coming back for his first full season after ACL 0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:51.760 and you just got to like find out if this 0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:54.960 is truly gonna work. Now you give him an absolute 0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:55.800 stud to play with. 0:31:56.560 --> 0:31:59.560 There is value if they were if they were you know, 0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:02.880 you know, treated to a monster deal by the Vikings 0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:05.719 to do what they talked about being very open to doing. 0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:08.040 But I think if you're a Cardinals fan who's suffered 0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:12.280 through many rough seasons, this is basically saying we've gotten 0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:15.560 our next version of Larry Fitzgerald. And he's not exactly 0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:17.880 explosive as like a Molik Neighbors. He's different, but he 0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:21.840 does like everything so well that it's a rare player, 0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:23.960 where like I think it's a little unfair to him, 0:32:24.000 --> 0:32:25.960 but it's like, oh, it's a disappointment if he isn't 0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:28.640 a Hall of Fame wide receiver, like if he'd made 0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:31.800 two Pro Bowls and was a top ten guy. It's 0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:34.560 like that's a disappointment, Like the expectations are through the roof, 0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:37.120 and I think, for once, if you're the Cardinals, this 0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:39.960 was a need that matches up with arguably the best 0:32:39.960 --> 0:32:40.760 player in the draft. 0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:42.920 I have no problem with this. I love it. 0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:45.560 I love not getting cute. I don't think they had 0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:47.640 the option. I don't think they were offered. I mean 0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:54.000 the McCarthy was never in the class with May and Daniels. 0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:57.840 I think teams were just seeing which quarterback for sure 0:32:57.960 --> 0:33:01.080 was going to shake out to three. Reporting on NFL 0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:05.000 Network was that the Giants and the Vikings both tried 0:33:05.040 --> 0:33:07.600 to trade up with the Patriots, and they even made 0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:11.440 a last ditch effort of like raising their offer to 0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:14.280 trade up with the Patriots, and it's it's safe to 0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:17.560 assume that's for Drake May. Patriots didn't want to do it. 0:33:17.600 --> 0:33:21.320 They stayed and picked and once he wasn't available, the 0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:26.200 Vikings were fine just letting McCarthy fall down the board. 0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:28.680 Obviously they end up getting him, and the Giants were 0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:29.960 never going to take him in the first place. 0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:32.120 Apparently right, It tells you how much the Patriots think 0:33:32.240 --> 0:33:35.400 of Drake May's potential here that they would that could 0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:38.280 have been a real boon for them to get additional 0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:39.960 picks at a time where they really need to stock 0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:40.400 that roster. 0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:42.479 But they love the QB. You take the QB. This 0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:44.880 is also where my mock draft went into a fiery 0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:46.280 dumpster or began to. 0:33:46.960 --> 0:33:48.640 And what we're gonna hit that at the end of 0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:50.480 the show. But yeah, it's a tough thing to do. 0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:54.280 It's not easy business. Mark you know that. Don't beat 0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:57.720 yourself up. Joe Alt goes number five to the Chargers, 0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:01.080 so a little bit, I would say it was a surprise. 0:34:01.320 --> 0:34:04.640 A lot of people haven't pegged for seven to the Titans. 0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:04.800 You know. 0:34:04.840 --> 0:34:08.360 The Titans were not happy with this because well we 0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:11.279 don't know it, but they take J. C. Latham from Alabama, 0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:14.440 also a tackle, but you would think they wanted to 0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:16.839 have the choice of the two or Alt outright, So 0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:19.840 you have those two linemen go sandwiched around. Yes, the 0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:23.239 New York Giants. So the Giants. If Drake may or 0:34:23.320 --> 0:34:25.960 Jaden Daniels were on the board, that's probably the new 0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:28.560 quarterback of the New York Giants. But once those three 0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:33.200 players went off, they stayed home and they took Malik Neighbors. Obviously, 0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:37.239 Giants fans friends back East that some of them were like, 0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:39.680 I wish they took roma Dunza. He's a guy that's 0:34:39.680 --> 0:34:42.040 gotten a little bit more buzz leading up. 0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:42.560 To the draft. 0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:46.319 However, you talk to people, this guy has every opportunity 0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:48.719 here to become a superstar as well, if put in 0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:50.080 the right situation. 0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:53.720 Yeah, and the Giants aren't the right situation, not now, 0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:55.000 I mean they haven't been. 0:34:55.440 --> 0:34:56.600 Maybe they can become that. 0:34:57.440 --> 0:35:01.200 He's another receiver who probably works his best over the 0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:03.080 middle of the field, which they It feels like that's 0:35:03.120 --> 0:35:05.040 all they've got is all these different guys, and yet 0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:06.360 he's like three tiers above. 0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:07.440 He's so explosive. 0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:11.280 I think there were probably more teams that had him 0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:15.200 over Harrison than even maybe there were teams that had 0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:18.080 a Dunze over over Neighbors. I think people just fell 0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:20.880 in love with his explosiveness. And I did like what 0:35:20.960 --> 0:35:23.360 Harbaugh said about all He's like, people are going to say, like, 0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:24.600 what what about your weapons? 0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:25.360 Where are your weapons? 0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:28.520 And he said, uh, with the Chargers, like we're gonna 0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:30.759 look at the offensive line as weapons. 0:35:30.880 --> 0:35:33.040 Yeah, they have football remembers. 0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:35.520 Thinking about the five fingers, make a fist with the 0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:37.680 offensive line. I mean he kind of let it be 0:35:37.760 --> 0:35:39.759 known from the very start. I love to pick for them. 0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:41.960 They have a Sean Slater too, but they you know, 0:35:42.120 --> 0:35:44.840 Trey Pipkins is not going to be starting at that 0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:47.480 point at that position. Joe Alt like the one thing's like, 0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:49.480 you know a lot of these guys weren't at the draft, 0:35:49.480 --> 0:35:50.560 but they cut to his house. 0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:52.880 You know, he's almost like like six or eight. He 0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:54.960 stood up and was like two feet taller than anyone 0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:56.640 else in the household. Like there was like the thirty 0:35:56.680 --> 0:35:58.680 people around him. You love it. You love big humans. 0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:01.040 Well, I think actually, like to me, it is it 0:36:01.080 --> 0:36:03.480 was like some of these teams did not do what 0:36:03.520 --> 0:36:06.120 we expected, but for the Chargers, who I thought were 0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:08.480 a trade down to go get Joe allt just like 0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:11.320 that's a hardball player, that's a Greg Roman type player, 0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:13.000 and he dominates in the run game. 0:36:13.200 --> 0:36:16.200 He's massive, and it's exactly the set up twenty six. 0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:18.240 They wont like seven seven. 0:36:19.560 --> 0:36:22.839 So there are almost no comps like to his height 0:36:22.960 --> 0:36:26.360 and size. Jonathan Ogden is one of them and was 0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:29.000 one of the greatest players of all time at his position. 0:36:29.080 --> 0:36:31.160 That there's a there's a few other here and there, 0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:33.839 but to be that athletic at at six ' nine. 0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:36.640 It's just like we're seeing this across all sports, like 0:36:36.800 --> 0:36:41.960 humans are testing the bounds of like what tall, how 0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:44.720 athletic tall people essentially can be. You see in tennis, 0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:48.799 you see in basketball. It's just like preposterous, how athletic now, 0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:50.520 like a six to nine tackle could be. 0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:52.960 Not horse racing, don't see not in horse race. 0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:54.799 No, In fact, you see a lot of bad things 0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:57.040 happening in horse racing when you push the the animal 0:36:57.080 --> 0:37:01.680 too far. And in baseball, the game for pictures right now, 0:37:01.719 --> 0:37:04.759 there's like an epidemic right now with pictures suffering arm 0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:08.480 injuries because things like spin rate and velocity keeps going 0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:10.960 up up up, and they're dealing now the sport with 0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:13.640 like how do we rein this in because the human 0:37:13.640 --> 0:37:18.359 body can't take it? You know, be careful with these 0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:21.720 big men, tell let them get too big. We're mere humans, 0:37:21.719 --> 0:37:22.000 that's all. 0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:24.640 We're mortal. Tell it to Randy Johnson, like tell it 0:37:24.680 --> 0:37:25.600 to the bird that he hit. 0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:28.120 Tell it to the we can tell it to the 0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:32.000 like the thirty pound linebacker that's trying to get around 0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:32.839 this now, And. 0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:35.399 That sounds like the end of baseball. By the way, 0:37:36.280 --> 0:37:38.160 we're creeping towards the end of the sport. 0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:41.640 It does. I mean, there are people like you who 0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:43.959 want baseball to die. That's not true. It never will. 0:37:44.080 --> 0:37:46.040 There's nothing nicer to do than go to a baseball 0:37:46.080 --> 0:37:47.520 game out in the in this on a summer day. 0:37:47.560 --> 0:37:50.480 But you're saying that literally the most important position is losing. 0:37:50.840 --> 0:37:54.480 The human body can't keep up with the sport. That's finally. 0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:55.399 That's all. 0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:59.600 Well, but I'm I'm educating you on on there. 0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:01.800 It's a completely different sport. 0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:05.720 I know that football it is kind of a football 0:38:05.760 --> 0:38:07.440 was completely different than basketball. 0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:11.680 Of a Titans draft, it's just like you've mentioned, it's 0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:13.319 not as exciting. I know, we'll get to the Jets, 0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:15.919 like when you take the tack, but at LISTA was like, oh, 0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:18.000 this is we got the guy. This is a tackle 0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:21.200 that would have gone maybe top three some years, like, 0:38:21.239 --> 0:38:23.680 it's certainly a better prospect. I will say that Local 0:38:23.760 --> 0:38:25.560 or Eric Fisher were like when they were coming out. 0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:27.240 I think Joe al was like an outlier. 0:38:27.320 --> 0:38:30.200 He's the one offensive lineman where you would come out 0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:32.799 of the draft like, yeah, we got the six nine beasts, right, 0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:36.040 But instead. Jac Lathan, by the way, could end up 0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:39.399 being way better than Joel, but it doesn't in right 0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:41.800 now where we stand, it doesn't seem as fun or exciting. 0:38:42.640 --> 0:38:46.600 All right, let's finish off the top ten and then 0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:48.920 we're going to take a break. So we mentioned JJ 0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:52.960 McCarthy the last quarterback standing, and there are the Vikings 0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:57.799 and the Cardinals were hoping that maybe the Vikings would 0:38:57.800 --> 0:39:00.000 pick up in a panic and try to do it 0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:03.200 trade there perhaps, but they don't. The Vikings hang back, 0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:06.200 the hang back and McCarthy stays on the board. Even 0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:09.080 when the number the team at number eight stuns the 0:39:09.080 --> 0:39:12.560 world with a quarterback pick, it's not JJ McCarthy. So 0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:15.719 what do the Vikings do? They pick up the phone 0:39:15.760 --> 0:39:19.280 at eleven, they call up the Jets, or the Jets 0:39:19.320 --> 0:39:20.040 call the Vikings. 0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:22.200 I thought, Daniel Jeremiah have to give him a little pop. 0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:28.359 The expert expertly foreshadowed this like minutes ahead of time 0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:33.080 that the Jets. He's been in a situation where you 0:39:33.120 --> 0:39:35.320 just you just pick up the phone if you're the Jets, 0:39:35.320 --> 0:39:37.000 perhaps and say, hey, you want to move up one 0:39:37.040 --> 0:39:39.880 ahead of us before somebody else jumps ahead of you. 0:39:40.280 --> 0:39:42.239 And they ended up the Jets trade out of the pick, 0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:45.520 they gain a little bit of draft capital, move back 0:39:45.600 --> 0:39:49.640 one spot, and yes, JJ McCarthy goes to the Minnesota Vikings. 0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:53.680 There is their quarterback of the future. 0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:56.800 I will say I thought that, like QUESI the GM 0:39:56.840 --> 0:39:59.040 for the Vikings, like you've got to kind of if 0:39:59.040 --> 0:40:02.279 you're a Vikings fan, this was like a nice hand 0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:04.320 of cards, like you did a nice job here, because 0:40:04.400 --> 0:40:06.560 they could have they were the candidate to ship both 0:40:06.600 --> 0:40:09.279 their first round picks to get JJ. It wasn't to 0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:11.200 get someone else. It was in theory like all to 0:40:11.200 --> 0:40:13.160 get JJ McCarthy as the fourth quarterback. 0:40:13.200 --> 0:40:15.799 They tried to, but it was for Drake May but 0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:18.719 for sure, but I'm saying value McCarthy like that. 0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:21.160 But even in the days leading up, it was like 0:40:21.440 --> 0:40:23.560 the thought was they would have been okay with McCarthy 0:40:23.640 --> 0:40:25.200 and they would have moved and it would have taken 0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:27.560 a lot. You gave up a little bit, but you 0:40:27.640 --> 0:40:29.279 kind of got your guy or the guy that was 0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:31.799 most likely to fall to you. Where if you moved 0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:34.359 up to number four here, and it's like it's good 0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:36.080 for the Jets, but it was good for the Vikings. 0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:38.280 And I kind of like the fit with Kevin O'Connell. 0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:40.640 I think at quarterback's in a good place there. You've 0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:43.120 got wide receivers, you've got a good tight end, like 0:40:43.160 --> 0:40:45.880 your offense is kind of ready to go, and I 0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:47.719 think what happens to McCarthy is one of the more 0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:51.480 interesting subplots to next season. It's not great for Sam Darnold, 0:40:51.480 --> 0:40:53.520 but I think there was always a plan to get 0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:55.120 a different quarterbacks once then knew that too. 0:40:55.239 --> 0:40:57.279 Once they traded for that second first round pick, the 0:40:57.360 --> 0:41:00.600 writing was on the wall, Yeah, now just become again. 0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:03.600 There will be and they'll play their cards close to 0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:05.239 the vest, like who's going to start at the beginning 0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:07.360 of the season. But JJ McCarthy is the quote unquote 0:41:07.400 --> 0:41:09.880 proven winner. He's a guy that's won at every level 0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:12.520 he's played at. I think they're gonna view him as 0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:16.080 a guy that's going to be ready physically and emotionally 0:41:16.360 --> 0:41:18.720 to take that gig, and they're gonna hope he's gonna 0:41:18.960 --> 0:41:20.759 run with it. I was a little spooked, like if 0:41:20.800 --> 0:41:23.960 I'm even though they didn't they were smart the way 0:41:23.960 --> 0:41:27.239 they played, they didn't panic, and I thought if they 0:41:27.239 --> 0:41:29.600 wanted a quarterback and they couldn't get those top three 0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:32.719 more or less, staying home or as close as you 0:41:32.760 --> 0:41:35.520 can to staying home was the right play. But then 0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:38.440 you know, you see like people that been studying this 0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:40.880 player for months and months and years saying he's like 0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:45.920 maybe like an Alex Smith, Like oh okay, all right, 0:41:46.000 --> 0:41:48.560 well he had some good years, but I mean, is 0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:50.840 that what you want out of your like number I 0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:53.279 guess I don't know, is Alex Smith? Is that a 0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:55.960 ceiling that's acceptable for the pick? I don't know if 0:41:55.960 --> 0:41:57.000 that's what his ceiling is. 0:41:57.400 --> 0:42:01.080 He's been sometimes the Cousins, like of the next gen Cousins, 0:42:01.120 --> 0:42:02.879 it's kind of like you could deal with that, that's right. 0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:05.760 And it's kind of like when you're comparing these guys 0:42:05.760 --> 0:42:08.239 pennex to Flacco is another one from DJ where it's 0:42:08.280 --> 0:42:12.319 like next gen Flaco, next gen Cousins, because like every 0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:16.120 quarterback now is extremely athletic compared to those guys. It's 0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:18.520 fun like JJ McCarthy's almost talked about as like his 0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:19.560 athleticism is born. 0:42:19.680 --> 0:42:21.920 He he tested off the charts for some of this stuff. 0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:24.200 Like his straight he's not like gonna make you miss, 0:42:24.600 --> 0:42:26.920 but his straight line speed is three code like that 0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:29.240 sort of like he has a big arm, and he's 0:42:29.320 --> 0:42:31.440 an athlete, even if that's not the main part of 0:42:31.480 --> 0:42:31.879 his game. 0:42:32.560 --> 0:42:34.960 But he did seem to be the guy that. 0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:40.000 The Sean McVay tree, of which O'Connell is one, liked 0:42:40.040 --> 0:42:41.919 the best, because he's like the one to two to three, 0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:46.160 like maybe not so much Cousins or Alex Smith, but 0:42:46.280 --> 0:42:49.560 like a better brock Purty, which obviously you would take 0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:53.040 it if he actually can deliver on that. I I 0:42:54.000 --> 0:42:58.080 wonder if the Broncos wanted JJ McCarthy, you know, because 0:42:58.080 --> 0:42:59.239 that's the reason you trade. 0:42:59.000 --> 0:43:01.600 Up, well, I think more than probably more than Bonnicks. 0:43:01.640 --> 0:43:03.879 If we could truth here on them, right, we would 0:43:03.880 --> 0:43:05.480 hold that thought out, hold that thought. 0:43:05.520 --> 0:43:07.680 Let's take a break, and when we get back, we 0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:11.439 check in on the middle of the first round, stay 0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:17.719 right there, all. 0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:20.880 Right, Welcome back. So the Jets move back one spot 0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:23.759 and brock Howers is there. 0:43:23.840 --> 0:43:28.000 I think they really you'll never know, but I think 0:43:28.000 --> 0:43:31.439 they were hoping Roma Dunze was there, and I think 0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:34.120 they maybe would have pulled the trigger there, but maybe 0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:36.800 maybe they always were going to take the best offensive 0:43:36.840 --> 0:43:47.239 lineman available at that point, and it was oluh. 0:43:44.040 --> 0:43:48.400 Fashion, Yeah, you got first try Ol fashion from Penn State. 0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:52.560 So, like I said, like I said on our last show, 0:43:52.719 --> 0:43:56.120 when your your team takes an offensive lineman, it's never 0:43:56.719 --> 0:43:57.520 overly exciting. 0:43:57.680 --> 0:44:00.520 However, they have a left and a right tackle. 0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:04.480 Even as high the as the potential is with Tyron Smith, 0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:07.440 now they're left tackle two thirty three year olds Morgan Moses. 0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:08.120 On the other side. 0:44:08.760 --> 0:44:12.120 Smith's injury issues are well documented. If either of those 0:44:12.120 --> 0:44:14.120 guys go down, or both those guys go down, all 0:44:14.160 --> 0:44:15.640 of a sudden, you have a forty year old Aaron 0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:20.000 Rodgers coming off an Achilles injury, and you're right back 0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:21.160 where it feels like you've been. 0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:24.279 So it makes sense. It's a sensible pick. 0:44:24.320 --> 0:44:27.719 It's if brock Bauers, who then goes two picks later 0:44:27.920 --> 0:44:30.920 to the Raiders, turns into George Kittle, like his competence 0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:36.800 out there and Fashiono, it becomes yet another offensive lineman 0:44:36.840 --> 0:44:38.520 who kind of just kicks around the league and it 0:44:38.520 --> 0:44:41.759 doesn't quite take. If he becomes Makai Becton, you gotta 0:44:41.880 --> 0:44:44.160 you have to live with it. But it makes sense. 0:44:44.160 --> 0:44:45.480 It's a logical pick for the job. 0:44:45.600 --> 0:44:49.920 That's the whole like psychological dynamic of the draft, is 0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:52.719 you no matter what kind of fan you are or 0:44:52.760 --> 0:44:54.680 even analyst, if you like a team, you're kind of 0:44:54.680 --> 0:44:58.680 just dreaming of the showy, sexy weapons type guy, and like, 0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:01.520 you don't really value offensive lineman out of the gate. 0:45:01.960 --> 0:45:04.160 But this guy's been compared to Laramie Tunzel. 0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:07.320 Jason Zumwalt when he announced this pick in the mock draft, 0:45:07.320 --> 0:45:10.319 like was salivating over these six to six frame, three 0:45:10.400 --> 0:45:13.240 hundred and seventeen pounds, And you know what's not exciting 0:45:13.320 --> 0:45:16.719 is having your quarterback swarm by bees four plays into 0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:19.400 the season and the season is destroyed. So I like 0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:22.200 the idea of protecting Aaron Rodgers not having the whole 0:45:22.239 --> 0:45:24.719 thing crumble minutes into campaign two. 0:45:24.920 --> 0:45:27.040 Right, this is I didn't like when I was positioned 0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:30.240 as like, well, do you take a pick for now 0:45:30.320 --> 0:45:32.200 with the Jets with a pass catcher or do you 0:45:32.239 --> 0:45:34.279 take a pick for the future of the tackle. It's like, no, 0:45:34.440 --> 0:45:37.560 this is for now, Like like, hopefully he's not starting 0:45:37.760 --> 0:45:41.520 Week one, but it would be a shock if he 0:45:41.600 --> 0:45:44.120 wasn't needed to start this season. 0:45:44.560 --> 0:45:46.359 And I really liked him. I think he was. 0:45:46.760 --> 0:45:50.279 He was probably the consensus tackle too, certainly overlaith them 0:45:50.360 --> 0:45:53.080 in that like we've seen with tackles that it's a 0:45:53.120 --> 0:45:56.160 really developmental position, maybe even more than quarterback where it 0:45:56.239 --> 0:45:58.839 takes me one year, two years, it takes a while. 0:45:58.840 --> 0:46:02.160 And fashion who kind of combine maybe better than the others, 0:46:02.239 --> 0:46:04.799 a guy that could play sooner than later and had 0:46:04.800 --> 0:46:08.800 some upside behind probably only all and he's definitely a 0:46:08.800 --> 0:46:11.160 guy that's like better in pass pro than run blocking. 0:46:11.160 --> 0:46:13.000 It's like, sign me up for those guys. Those are 0:46:13.040 --> 0:46:14.920 like kind of the tackles I want the guys that. 0:46:15.200 --> 0:46:17.239 Yeah, DJ said he would have been a top five 0:46:17.280 --> 0:46:19.399 pick a year ago, so I mean, like, I think 0:46:19.400 --> 0:46:21.640 this is just one of these drafts where he's getting 0:46:21.640 --> 0:46:23.640 pushed down the board a little because of the positions 0:46:23.640 --> 0:46:24.640 that are going ahead of him. 0:46:24.840 --> 0:46:26.680 And I'll give Joe Douglas credit. 0:46:26.760 --> 0:46:29.840 I think when you look at what they've done this offseason, 0:46:29.960 --> 0:46:32.399 he could have done the thing that would have made 0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:37.120 a lot of sense, which is almost make it a 0:46:37.120 --> 0:46:40.279 absurd all in year where you're doing things like you 0:46:40.320 --> 0:46:43.560 trade up for Marvin Harrison, or you make that extra 0:46:43.760 --> 0:46:46.440 signing or two in free agency. I thought all of 0:46:46.520 --> 0:46:49.080 his moves that he made, for the most part, have 0:46:49.200 --> 0:46:51.919 made this team better and are giving them a real 0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:56.840 chance in twenty twenty four, and while they're gonna have 0:46:56.880 --> 0:46:58.480 a lot of work to do next year if Aaron 0:46:58.520 --> 0:47:02.160 Rodgers is gone or can't play anymore, they haven't mortgaged 0:47:02.200 --> 0:47:05.240 the farm in terms of a lot of their spending. 0:47:05.320 --> 0:47:06.000 So I think there. 0:47:06.239 --> 0:47:08.120 I think he has handled this in a responsible a 0:47:08.200 --> 0:47:10.680 considering there's a very good chance he's not around anymore 0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:11.920 if the season goes poorly. 0:47:12.360 --> 0:47:14.600 I don't think he is gm that way, No, but 0:47:14.680 --> 0:47:16.480 we want, like to be fair. I'm not. It's not 0:47:16.480 --> 0:47:17.320 a Pennock situation. 0:47:17.440 --> 0:47:19.239 But if you're gonna take someone at eleven, you want 0:47:19.280 --> 0:47:21.319 him to contribute and play very soon too. 0:47:21.600 --> 0:47:22.879 I think he will though. Yeah. 0:47:22.960 --> 0:47:26.319 I also because invariably it's the Jets. They're gonna lose 0:47:26.360 --> 0:47:27.000 like two linemen. 0:47:27.120 --> 0:47:28.359 You know that has been the way. 0:47:29.719 --> 0:47:32.560 I would be very surprised if we don't see Oulu 0:47:32.719 --> 0:47:33.600 on the field this year. 0:47:34.120 --> 0:47:35.560 You got to come up with a nickname for him. 0:47:35.560 --> 0:47:37.320 You can't, oh for sh I mean, oh, it is 0:47:37.320 --> 0:47:41.680 a good name, pretty good. So yes, bo Nicks. So 0:47:41.719 --> 0:47:45.280 he is the sixth quarterback off the board in twelve 0:47:45.400 --> 0:47:49.200 picks to the Denver Broncos. Greg, what were your thoughts 0:47:49.440 --> 0:47:52.440 about this election, Sean Payton seemed to be pretty happy 0:47:52.480 --> 0:47:55.680 with himself in the war room after after went down 0:47:55.719 --> 0:48:00.719 twenty four years at all, Auburn transfer to Oregon, and 0:48:01.239 --> 0:48:05.080 now he is entering a quarterback room that has Jared Stidham, 0:48:05.400 --> 0:48:08.719 that has Wilson and now Bow Nix, who I would 0:48:08.760 --> 0:48:10.319 imagine is going to be playing very soon. 0:48:10.400 --> 0:48:12.280 I want to get into Nicks. But as you mentioned, 0:48:12.320 --> 0:48:15.480 like being proud of himself in the in the worom. 0:48:15.960 --> 0:48:18.800 This is the first draft I've ever watched. Partially with Emica. 0:48:18.920 --> 0:48:20.759 I want my wife along with Walker. You know, she 0:48:20.880 --> 0:48:22.520 was there just coming in and out. But she's like, 0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:26.279 why are they so proud of themselves when they like 0:48:26.400 --> 0:48:29.280 make a decision. It's like, oh, you know, like she 0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:32.440 really cracked up about that. They're all like high fiving. 0:48:32.880 --> 0:48:35.680 There is something awkward to an outsider of like, hey, 0:48:35.719 --> 0:48:38.400 we just called in the pick and then like fifteen 0:48:38.440 --> 0:48:40.520 different guys are like high fiving each other. 0:48:40.640 --> 0:48:43.040 There is something they've been working on it from us, 0:48:43.160 --> 0:48:45.279 so I mean, but also they're all they're all in 0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:47.319 the cusp of probably like separations. 0:48:48.360 --> 0:48:50.160 We get it, we just called it a name. 0:48:50.600 --> 0:48:53.080 Just that is that moment and you could tell Emica. 0:48:53.239 --> 0:48:55.200 I said that, I'm sure she'll be thrilled to hear 0:48:55.239 --> 0:48:59.319 me man split. She has never listened to now that 0:48:59.320 --> 0:49:01.920 that's the cold nation. I did say of months and 0:49:02.200 --> 0:49:05.000 months of hard work, Dan, of grinding, right, that was 0:49:06.200 --> 0:49:10.080 and we appreciate that one moment like oh you beat 0:49:10.120 --> 0:49:11.960 the ten minute clock to make a phone call. 0:49:12.000 --> 0:49:14.840 I was like, okay, that's fair. I don't love what 0:49:14.920 --> 0:49:17.440 I've heard from Seun Payt afterwards. It almost sounds like 0:49:17.719 --> 0:49:20.120 in all these little leaks coming out and. 0:49:20.120 --> 0:49:22.919 Sean Payte's coming after Peyton, I love it. Well, it's 0:49:23.000 --> 0:49:25.160 just like, what is it? Now? What did he do? 0:49:25.440 --> 0:49:28.520 It's nothing, just that they're so high on bow Nicks 0:49:28.520 --> 0:49:29.480 and they're just leaking off. 0:49:29.600 --> 0:49:31.800 Of course they're going to say they're high. They're drafting 0:49:31.840 --> 0:49:33.000 them with the twelfth overall pen. 0:49:32.960 --> 0:49:34.760 Of course, but no one thought he was a special 0:49:34.880 --> 0:49:37.120 enough player to go in the first round. And so 0:49:37.520 --> 0:49:40.400 I said, he gave me Jake Locker Christian Ponder vibes. 0:49:40.640 --> 0:49:43.120 And it wasn't because of his playing style at all. 0:49:43.400 --> 0:49:46.080 Maybe Ponder, Uh, it wasn't because of his plain style. 0:49:46.080 --> 0:49:48.840 It's just like it's the end of the quarterback around. 0:49:48.880 --> 0:49:51.640 We have to get a quarterback. We can't wait any longer. 0:49:51.760 --> 0:49:52.280 That's fair. 0:49:52.360 --> 0:49:54.640 Let's take the last one before we feel like there's 0:49:54.680 --> 0:49:55.000 a drop. 0:49:55.280 --> 0:49:56.799 The one thing I do like about him he had 0:49:57.040 --> 0:50:00.600 three thy seven hundred and twenty four college snaps. That's 0:50:00.600 --> 0:50:02.399 more than like Burrows had in the NFL. And it's 0:50:02.400 --> 0:50:05.480 like he did he transferred and had like two totally 0:50:05.520 --> 0:50:08.279 different types of playing styles like it he was. He 0:50:08.400 --> 0:50:10.960 was a better, different, more accurate type quarterback at Oregon. 0:50:11.040 --> 0:50:13.640 But I'm with you, I mean that whole thing where 0:50:13.640 --> 0:50:15.680 it's like this guy played a ton of snaps in college, 0:50:15.719 --> 0:50:17.040 doesn't do six for me. 0:50:17.160 --> 0:50:18.520 Sixty one career start. 0:50:19.280 --> 0:50:21.480 So then there's then there's like Achilles Smith who had 0:50:21.480 --> 0:50:24.200 twelve starts and went like second overall or something and 0:50:24.320 --> 0:50:26.800 flamed out, Like I think, I think having more tape 0:50:26.800 --> 0:50:29.200 on a quarterback is a good thing. I don't know, 0:50:29.239 --> 0:50:32.200 but the odds are the six quarterback off the board 0:50:32.200 --> 0:50:34.839 in the first round is problematic. 0:50:35.080 --> 0:50:38.840 He look his like super high tier comp was was 0:50:38.880 --> 0:50:41.719 breezed that he's just like a point guard, a quick 0:50:41.760 --> 0:50:42.680 decision maker. 0:50:42.520 --> 0:50:45.279 And who coached you, but also sort of an Alex Smith. 0:50:45.000 --> 0:50:49.000 Too, right, And and Peyton is such a good coach. 0:50:50.160 --> 0:50:53.920 His quarterbacks always have good numbers, always are pretty efficient, 0:50:54.080 --> 0:50:57.279 like he's gonna make it work. Well, it's just with 0:50:57.360 --> 0:51:00.479 the twelfth overall pick, you're taking a quarterback you want. 0:51:00.520 --> 0:51:03.000 You want someone that can maybe make all the throws 0:51:03.160 --> 0:51:06.040 and that has shown an ability to withstand pressure. That 0:51:06.120 --> 0:51:08.759 was the thing watching him. He didn't face a lot 0:51:08.800 --> 0:51:11.160 of pressure when he was at Oregon, but when he did, 0:51:11.200 --> 0:51:12.520 he had like no answer for it. 0:51:12.600 --> 0:51:15.520 Well, he also had forty five touchdowns, three picks last 0:51:15.520 --> 0:51:18.799 season and a seventy seven point four completion percentage. So 0:51:18.800 --> 0:51:20.560 it's not some of these guys like, well, we hope 0:51:20.560 --> 0:51:22.359 that they can be accurate as a pro. We love 0:51:22.440 --> 0:51:24.160 their arm and all this stuff. It's like, I think 0:51:24.200 --> 0:51:27.279 this isn't a Sean Payton type guy. Like, so that's 0:51:27.320 --> 0:51:29.760 I can understand. I don't think it's all false pr 0:51:29.840 --> 0:51:31.800 that that I know that anything that comes out of 0:51:31.800 --> 0:51:34.360 Sean Payton's mouth, greg Is and Amica certly are going 0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:35.880 to disagree with or shun. 0:51:35.920 --> 0:51:37.160 But it's like he can. 0:51:37.120 --> 0:51:38.759 Work with this guy. So he wasn't coming out of 0:51:38.760 --> 0:51:42.640 Sean Payton specifically. It was a different war room. But uh, 0:51:42.840 --> 0:51:45.400 he actually admitted after too that He's like, well, I 0:51:45.480 --> 0:51:48.400 may have been directly responsible for making people think that 0:51:48.440 --> 0:51:51.000 we were going to trade up. So he was bragging afterwards. 0:51:51.040 --> 0:51:54.000 How he It's like verbalized that like twelve times. 0:51:54.040 --> 0:51:56.760 It's almost like Sean Payton has an exceedingly high opinion 0:51:56.800 --> 0:51:59.640 of himself. I just get this feeling. Anybody else get 0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:03.400 that feeling? There is there is an energy. Alright, I'm 0:52:03.400 --> 0:52:05.400 gonna do the next five picks and jump in with 0:52:05.440 --> 0:52:07.360 anything on any of them. Okay, so you got brock 0:52:07.400 --> 0:52:11.239 Bauers the tight end going to the Raiders. So they 0:52:11.400 --> 0:52:14.120 find their Darren Waller replacement. Look at it that way, 0:52:14.120 --> 0:52:17.640 as a hyper athletic playmaker, maybe not a high end blocker. 0:52:17.920 --> 0:52:21.120 The Saints drafted tackle I'm not gonna get this one 0:52:21.120 --> 0:52:25.359 at Teleisi Fuaga out of Oregon State. And then at 0:52:25.440 --> 0:52:27.920 number fifteen, the Colts say, you know what, We're going 0:52:27.960 --> 0:52:30.400 to end the street the streak, and we're going to 0:52:30.440 --> 0:52:33.680 take a defensive player. So they take Latu Latu defensive 0:52:33.760 --> 0:52:34.759 end out of UCLA. 0:52:35.239 --> 0:52:36.320 So you get high value. 0:52:36.320 --> 0:52:38.480 There is the first defensive player off the board in 0:52:38.520 --> 0:52:41.280 the middle of the first round. This was an outlier, obviously, 0:52:41.719 --> 0:52:45.560 and the Seahawks take Byron Murphy, the defensive tackle out 0:52:45.560 --> 0:52:48.960 of Texas, so there is thirteen through sixteen. 0:52:49.520 --> 0:52:52.160 Bowers going to the Raiders was fascinating. No one had 0:52:52.200 --> 0:52:55.239 that happening. I love it because they just need more weapons. 0:52:55.280 --> 0:52:57.120 But the reason no one had it happening is because 0:52:57.120 --> 0:52:59.640 they just took Michael Mayer last year. It's is like 0:52:59.640 --> 0:53:03.160 a high second round. That's right, but interesting. It was 0:53:03.160 --> 0:53:05.520 a different regime and I'm with that. First of all, 0:53:05.560 --> 0:53:07.640 Bowers is a whole nother level of athletics. 0:53:07.680 --> 0:53:08.960 You could make two tight ends work. 0:53:10.440 --> 0:53:12.600 You want to, and Mayer is a little bit more 0:53:12.640 --> 0:53:16.399 of the the inline tight end who can also catch 0:53:16.440 --> 0:53:18.480 some passes but isn't gonna be going for like a 0:53:18.520 --> 0:53:20.920 thousand yards and Bowers could be that guy, and you 0:53:21.000 --> 0:53:21.520 just can't. 0:53:21.800 --> 0:53:23.320 You can't. 0:53:24.719 --> 0:53:28.120 Make decisions based on what the last GM did, like like, oh, 0:53:28.200 --> 0:53:30.000 he took mayor so I can't take him if you 0:53:30.000 --> 0:53:32.160 think Bowers is the best guy, and a lot of teams, probably. 0:53:31.920 --> 0:53:35.799 Especially especially the last Raiders GM, but now generally, but. 0:53:35.880 --> 0:53:38.399 From like a Raiders fan perspective, last year he used 0:53:38.400 --> 0:53:41.000 the first round pick on a tight end. You weren't 0:53:41.080 --> 0:53:43.399 second high second Oh high second on a tight end 0:53:43.520 --> 0:53:46.799 like was his ceiling here? Like inline blocker who has 0:53:46.840 --> 0:53:49.560 six hundred yards in a season like right, it doesn't 0:53:49.680 --> 0:53:52.400 sound like a team that's you know, but that's the 0:53:52.560 --> 0:53:54.919 risk when you blow things up and regimes change. 0:53:55.120 --> 0:53:56.080 It leads to it's. 0:53:56.000 --> 0:53:58.640 Great news for Gardner Minshew because it's like you're now 0:53:58.800 --> 0:54:01.480 you're starting. It's your team at this point. But I 0:54:01.760 --> 0:54:03.879 will say the one pick, I think it's not great 0:54:03.920 --> 0:54:06.520 news for Devontae Adams. But yeah, no, you're right. But 0:54:06.600 --> 0:54:10.279 if you're Mike McDonald, I just watched what he did 0:54:10.480 --> 0:54:13.239 with so many Ravens players on defense last year. 0:54:14.239 --> 0:54:15.520 I didn't know what the Seahawks were going to do 0:54:15.560 --> 0:54:15.759 in this. 0:54:15.920 --> 0:54:17.719 I kind of thought they might go for quarterback like 0:54:17.760 --> 0:54:20.680 they might, but Byron Murphy, to me, I loved watching him, 0:54:21.040 --> 0:54:23.560 and I think Mike McDonald is going to get something 0:54:23.560 --> 0:54:26.160 out of Byron Murphy right away. It wasn't like it 0:54:26.200 --> 0:54:28.399 was the biggest need on the play at all other needs, 0:54:28.480 --> 0:54:30.840 but like I love, I think it's a Seattle Seahawks 0:54:30.920 --> 0:54:31.680 type player. 0:54:31.640 --> 0:54:34.279 Right, and the things pick they kind of had to 0:54:34.320 --> 0:54:37.920 make it. This has been bubbling around, but Ian reported 0:54:38.040 --> 0:54:41.719 how Ryan Ramchick might be retiring. So I talked about 0:54:41.719 --> 0:54:43.440 how they blew their left tackle pick a couple of 0:54:43.480 --> 0:54:45.440 years ago, Trevor Penny, who can't get on the field, 0:54:46.080 --> 0:54:47.759 so they needed a left tackle. They also needed a 0:54:47.840 --> 0:54:50.040 right tackle, so they just had to take a tackle, 0:54:50.120 --> 0:54:53.000 and they took the guy who's like most fun to 0:54:53.040 --> 0:54:56.080 watch in like a brawler type, which is very sainty, 0:54:56.320 --> 0:54:58.359 and I will say I have to do a lot 0:54:58.400 --> 0:54:59.880 to like his pass rushing was I. 0:55:00.080 --> 0:55:02.439 I'm pumped for him as a pro. 0:55:02.520 --> 0:55:06.360 Hym and my guy Newton were my two favorite defensive 0:55:06.360 --> 0:55:07.000 players in the draft. 0:55:07.040 --> 0:55:09.319 Only one of them got drafted tonight, though we'll talk 0:55:09.320 --> 0:55:14.000 about that on Saturday. But little Susie ain't getting the 0:55:14.000 --> 0:55:15.240 braces this summer. 0:55:15.360 --> 0:55:20.040 Not this summer. Maybe next summer. Don't count old buck tooth, Susie. 0:55:20.640 --> 0:55:23.280 It gets tougher and tougher to correct teeth with braces 0:55:23.320 --> 0:55:23.880 as you age. 0:55:24.719 --> 0:55:26.479 Got to keep her in the dark. Hey, I didn't 0:55:26.480 --> 0:55:30.160 make you guys follow me, but I did get a 0:55:30.200 --> 0:55:35.440 tweet from tah seventy six rain maker blanked me again. 0:55:36.960 --> 0:55:41.560 All right, stick a pin in that defensive runt, the 0:55:41.640 --> 0:55:44.040 third defensive player in the road in a row. Because 0:55:44.080 --> 0:55:49.640 the Vikings. They make more moves. Yes, greg no go 0:55:49.680 --> 0:55:53.640 aheading at me now. I just want to on the Vikings. 0:55:53.320 --> 0:55:55.600 Okay, I just let me get it out. 0:55:55.680 --> 0:55:59.560 Minnesota Vikings via trade from the Jaguars, get Dallas Turner, 0:55:59.600 --> 0:56:04.320 outside linebacker from Alabama. That nice value pick there, Gregory, 0:56:05.880 --> 0:56:08.520 it was, you know what he I had a harder 0:56:08.520 --> 0:56:10.279 time with him, but he he he's a great A 0:56:10.320 --> 0:56:11.840 lot of people had him as the top ed rusher, 0:56:11.920 --> 0:56:13.879 DJ had him like great value to get up there. 0:56:13.880 --> 0:56:15.680 But they gave up you know, a three and a 0:56:15.800 --> 0:56:18.480 four to move up five spots, and it did make 0:56:18.520 --> 0:56:19.040 me think. 0:56:18.840 --> 0:56:20.600 About them not a value pick. 0:56:20.960 --> 0:56:24.879 They've just been building this team up for three years now, 0:56:25.000 --> 0:56:27.360 even though they have like a new quarterback that it 0:56:27.400 --> 0:56:29.120 felt like this was a little bit of go time 0:56:29.160 --> 0:56:32.439 for QUESTI. They've been accumulating picks and take a lot 0:56:32.440 --> 0:56:34.000 of different guys, and it was like, we got to 0:56:34.040 --> 0:56:36.480 start getting our guys and we got to kind of 0:56:36.480 --> 0:56:38.200 push our chips in the table. We got to be 0:56:38.520 --> 0:56:41.400 a little better this year to help out our rookie 0:56:41.480 --> 0:56:44.560 quarterback and Sam Darnold on the defensive side. So they're 0:56:44.640 --> 0:56:46.560 they're kind of taking a swing here by giving up 0:56:46.560 --> 0:56:48.720 all those picks, those just to move up five spots. 0:56:48.760 --> 0:56:50.960 That was expensive. It was a fit along with the switching. 0:56:50.960 --> 0:56:52.839 First it was a fifth this year, and a third 0:56:52.880 --> 0:56:53.840 and a fourth next season. 0:56:55.719 --> 0:56:59.080 Now, Mark, I don't put it like I don't get 0:56:59.080 --> 0:57:02.200 too jazzed up about guys that play a million snaps 0:57:02.239 --> 0:57:05.880 in college, but I do get noivous when guys hardly 0:57:05.920 --> 0:57:09.400 play in college. Right, And so the Bengals and a 0:57:09.400 --> 0:57:11.160 lot of people saw this coming, Mark, I think you 0:57:11.480 --> 0:57:16.480 had Cincinnati going for the offensive line in your Mark draft. Yeah, 0:57:16.520 --> 0:57:20.240 not this guy Amarus Mims out of Georgia, who's got 0:57:20.560 --> 0:57:22.800 everything you could want out of a tackle in terms 0:57:22.840 --> 0:57:24.920 of size and athleticism. 0:57:25.000 --> 0:57:28.320 But this man made eight starts in college. 0:57:28.400 --> 0:57:32.440 So that is obviously you are You're looking at his 0:57:32.600 --> 0:57:35.120 traits and you're saying this, this is an NFL player, 0:57:35.120 --> 0:57:37.560 but you barely saw him in college. But the tape 0:57:37.600 --> 0:57:40.120 and his testing was enough for the Cincinnati to say, 0:57:40.480 --> 0:57:43.160 maybe we have something special here that seems like a 0:57:43.240 --> 0:57:44.320 roll of the dice at eighteen. 0:57:44.800 --> 0:57:45.440 Yeah, I with you. 0:57:45.560 --> 0:57:47.840 I like, I think, like you know, injury history and 0:57:47.920 --> 0:57:51.160 durability matter. Like he'd allowed one QB hurry on two 0:57:51.280 --> 0:57:55.520 hundred and ninety seven snaps last year, and he'd I 0:57:55.520 --> 0:57:59.080 don't know. I think that if you read the positive traits, 0:57:59.240 --> 0:58:02.640 the Bengals are are hoping traits are great. I mean 0:58:02.680 --> 0:58:04.600 because he's shown those things. It's not like they're guessing 0:58:04.640 --> 0:58:06.600 that he has them. It's just that he was like 0:58:07.160 --> 0:58:08.600 it wasn't around. 0:58:08.640 --> 0:58:11.000 Six ' eight though they have a type there. There 0:58:11.000 --> 0:58:15.040 are three tackles right now. Are Orlando Brown one of 0:58:15.040 --> 0:58:18.760 the largest humans ever created, Trent Brown one of the 0:58:18.800 --> 0:58:21.960 largest humans ever created? With now Amarus Mims who a 0:58:21.960 --> 0:58:24.760 lot of people, the people that are super into tackles 0:58:24.760 --> 0:58:26.800 in the draft, they're thinking he's the most fascinating guy 0:58:26.800 --> 0:58:28.360 in the draft. That the boomer bus guy in the 0:58:28.440 --> 0:58:30.800 draft could be a total top five talent in total 0:58:31.320 --> 0:58:34.160 who knows, you know, have a good development six. 0:58:34.160 --> 0:58:37.800 Seven three forty, gifted with size and athleticism with Kaipex 0:58:38.440 --> 0:58:39.000 like it. 0:58:38.960 --> 0:58:41.640 It can go both ways with the Giants. Yeah, but 0:58:41.640 --> 0:58:42.640 what do you want him to be? Five? 0:58:44.440 --> 0:58:48.680 No, I want him to be exactly six six eighteen 0:58:49.360 --> 0:58:50.760 And then I'm totally fine with the pick. 0:58:51.520 --> 0:58:55.800 You asked, well, I mean, point Mark, thank you wouldn't 0:58:55.800 --> 0:58:57.720 even make a point be on the field a little more. Yeah, 0:58:57.760 --> 0:59:00.240 I guess that's what you are. That's the question. What 0:59:00.320 --> 0:59:01.840 was the point that you don't want me to be small? 0:59:02.480 --> 0:59:03.240 I thought I made it. 0:59:03.280 --> 0:59:04.560 I thought I made a point that I think if 0:59:04.600 --> 0:59:06.760 you're listening to this, you're thinking that was that. I 0:59:06.800 --> 0:59:09.560 took Dan in a different direction there, wheeled him around 0:59:09.600 --> 0:59:10.000 a little bit. 0:59:10.800 --> 0:59:15.600 So wheel this. The rams at nineteen finally picked this one. 0:59:15.720 --> 0:59:16.080 Was fun. 0:59:16.320 --> 0:59:20.520 I love this on the you love the pick, I 0:59:20.640 --> 0:59:23.000 love the player. Okay, I love this all right. So 0:59:23.120 --> 0:59:28.000 Jared Verse is very talented defensive end. A lot of 0:59:28.000 --> 0:59:30.560 people say, oh, maybe the best PR pass rusher and 0:59:30.640 --> 0:59:37.200 all that. However, you know enough enough. However, I loved 0:59:37.320 --> 0:59:42.960 this from Charles Davis, who while Jared Versus, you know, 0:59:43.040 --> 0:59:45.320 off the board and it's this big moment in his life. 0:59:45.600 --> 0:59:48.840 Here's Charles Davis asking the questions that need to be as. 0:59:49.280 --> 0:59:53.040 I talk with a top level NFL scout former GM 0:59:53.360 --> 0:59:56.040 and he said, hey, this kid had the reputation of being, 0:59:56.320 --> 0:59:57.640 you know, kind of a you know what. 0:59:57.920 --> 0:59:59.560 So I asked him, point, Blake, are you a new 1:00:00.000 --> 1:00:02.280 you know what? Jared Verse? And he said, I am 1:00:02.320 --> 1:00:04.400 on the practice field and on the game field. The 1:00:04.400 --> 1:00:06.640 rest of the time. I'm an okay guy. He knows 1:00:06.680 --> 1:00:07.000 how to. 1:00:06.920 --> 1:00:09.360 Turn it on, just like charl Di so you and 1:00:09.440 --> 1:00:14.160 asked like, be honest. 1:00:13.600 --> 1:00:14.160 I love it. 1:00:14.560 --> 1:00:16.640 I I don't know if I saw anyone like on 1:00:16.680 --> 1:00:18.439 the defensive side of the ball that made me more 1:00:18.440 --> 1:00:19.360 interested than this player. 1:00:19.440 --> 1:00:21.640 Charles was kind of working blue tonight because he also 1:00:21.720 --> 1:00:26.040 tried to quote, uh, why am I forgetting his name 1:00:26.040 --> 1:00:30.000 Brian Cox's character in Succession? You know f Off doing 1:00:30.040 --> 1:00:31.360 the telecast. 1:00:30.960 --> 1:00:33.760 Davis was out there today. Is that I like that 1:00:33.840 --> 1:00:37.040 version of him? I love that Charles Davis. Sorry, Jared Versus, 1:00:37.040 --> 1:00:38.640 you were very verse, not. 1:00:38.800 --> 1:00:42.760 Like you know the way he rushes the passer, like 1:00:42.800 --> 1:00:45.120 I mentioned on that other show, watching him just like 1:00:45.400 --> 1:00:48.000 take you know these six six three d and forty 1:00:48.040 --> 1:00:50.440 pound guys and just like smashing them into the quarterback 1:00:50.480 --> 1:00:52.040 and they both fall to the ground. 1:00:52.080 --> 1:00:55.120 Like toy soldiers. It's like this guy like makes the rams. 1:00:55.240 --> 1:00:56.720 I mean it was a need for them too, but 1:00:56.760 --> 1:00:59.040 it's like it is someone that can come in and 1:00:59.040 --> 1:01:00.880 like punish people in the NFC West. 1:01:00.880 --> 1:01:02.360 I kind of love him the way he plays a 1:01:02.440 --> 1:01:05.240 nice team. I love him with Byron Young. It's kind 1:01:05.280 --> 1:01:06.120 of the total opposite. 1:01:06.160 --> 1:01:08.880 You have you have the bend in the edge speed Edgdresher, 1:01:08.920 --> 1:01:11.360 and then you have the big strong maybe set the 1:01:11.440 --> 1:01:13.200 edge a little better in the run defense with Jared 1:01:13.240 --> 1:01:14.200 versus they're a nice little and. 1:01:14.160 --> 1:01:16.040 Think he's a little bit of a butt head. Hopefully 1:01:16.040 --> 1:01:17.560 he can deal with it, you know what I mean. 1:01:18.400 --> 1:01:20.600 He said he's a good guy. Off he'd claim he 1:01:20.600 --> 1:01:23.360 said he was, Yeah, well how would you, how would anyone? 1:01:23.440 --> 1:01:25.040 Well if it got to the point where like a 1:01:25.040 --> 1:01:27.400 lot of the chatter was like, you know, this guy 1:01:27.480 --> 1:01:28.400 kind of sucks all of that. 1:01:28.640 --> 1:01:31.720 He seemed to have a very nice, loving family set up. 1:01:32.160 --> 1:01:34.160 He had a heartwarming. 1:01:33.880 --> 1:01:36.439 I'm not saying it. I don't know anything about the man. 1:01:36.520 --> 1:01:39.600 I'm just saying it had reached a level that Charles 1:01:39.680 --> 1:01:43.800 Davis brought it up to a national audience minutes seconds 1:01:43.840 --> 1:01:46.240 after he was taken. And then it was so important 1:01:46.280 --> 1:01:50.840 to Charles C. D that he asked the man himself. 1:01:50.960 --> 1:01:53.840 Yeah, the report, the reporting hit a tipping point and 1:01:53.880 --> 1:01:56.040 he had to, you know, ask the question that needed 1:01:56.080 --> 1:01:57.680 to be asked to get that. Do you want him 1:01:57.680 --> 1:01:59.360 to be I don't want to be too friendly, so my. 1:01:59.360 --> 1:02:03.280 Curiosity is peaked like like what is going on for 1:02:03.320 --> 1:02:05.640 that to be like a main storyline from one of 1:02:05.640 --> 1:02:09.680 the top college analysts. Seconds there, Eric, can you put 1:02:09.680 --> 1:02:12.440 in a request for Jared Verse? When we talk about this, 1:02:12.920 --> 1:02:15.240 I get that, what a great point, and give me 1:02:15.280 --> 1:02:18.920 a ding, give me something. Nobody's asking these questions. Well, 1:02:19.000 --> 1:02:20.920 Charles Davis, is you get a bully for a ding? 1:02:20.960 --> 1:02:23.520 It's not It's not worth it. It handed out dings 1:02:23.520 --> 1:02:25.880 and greats points. The Sessler's not even making points. 1:02:26.920 --> 1:02:29.320 Why why do you need to turn into this person 1:02:29.440 --> 1:02:31.440 during this during what has been a you know, a 1:02:31.600 --> 1:02:36.920 relatively well natured show. You're you're asking for praise and 1:02:37.000 --> 1:02:41.480 sound clips and all this stuff without endless praise? Can 1:02:41.520 --> 1:02:43.280 you get out of this show without endless praise aimed 1:02:43.320 --> 1:02:43.640 at you? 1:02:43.720 --> 1:02:47.600 Do you know? You know? I don't know. It seems absurd. 1:02:47.840 --> 1:02:49.840 Do you know what you think I'm being right now? 1:02:51.400 --> 1:02:55.080 You're being I don't know if I'd go there. It's 1:02:55.080 --> 1:02:57.160 brought a background on you. 1:02:57.160 --> 1:03:01.720 He did bring your back around, Yeah, admit, Like, all right, 1:03:01.760 --> 1:03:06.400 let's take a Breakney and let's finish round one. All right, 1:03:06.440 --> 1:03:08.880 we're back. We are at pick twenty. Let's hit the 1:03:08.920 --> 1:03:13.240 rest of the first round. Now, the Pittsburgh Steelers. They 1:03:13.680 --> 1:03:18.040 go to their offensive line, adding help there with Troy 1:03:18.120 --> 1:03:22.160 Fatinau from Washington. So interior is that the first guard 1:03:22.200 --> 1:03:24.720 off the board interior alignment. 1:03:25.120 --> 1:03:28.360 You know they're listing him that way. But he was 1:03:28.560 --> 1:03:33.480 fantastic at tackle and could be playing there like a 1:03:33.520 --> 1:03:36.560 lot of these offensive linemen. Actually, Graham Martin coming up 1:03:36.560 --> 1:03:39.240 to could play multiple positions, but I have a feeling 1:03:39.280 --> 1:03:40.600 they will try him at tackle. 1:03:40.680 --> 1:03:43.440 He's incredibly Yeah, PFF called him, labeled him as the 1:03:43.440 --> 1:03:46.200 most versatile alignment of any of them. So that's you know, 1:03:46.440 --> 1:03:49.320 multi position diverse and the best overall athlete of all 1:03:49.320 --> 1:03:49.720 the lignment. 1:03:49.760 --> 1:03:51.120 It's saying. It looked more like a tight end. 1:03:51.200 --> 1:03:53.439 It's excellent to have the Yeah, the alignment that could 1:03:53.440 --> 1:03:54.080 play all over. 1:03:55.200 --> 1:03:58.160 Now, the Dolphins they go defense. 1:03:58.200 --> 1:04:02.280 They take Chop Robinson edge at a Penn State and 1:04:02.640 --> 1:04:04.600 that is a move. You know, some people thought, Greggie, 1:04:04.640 --> 1:04:08.000 maybe the Dolphins would take a burner and just go 1:04:08.720 --> 1:04:11.240 totally hog while on their offense. But they do address 1:04:11.280 --> 1:04:13.760 their defense, which seems to make sense. Well, I thought 1:04:13.800 --> 1:04:17.000 they might go your guy Newton there. Yeah, I was 1:04:17.040 --> 1:04:19.920 where it started to feel like this storry bro might 1:04:19.920 --> 1:04:22.360 not work out for me. It was a big need 1:04:22.440 --> 1:04:26.320 because Bradley Chubb and Jalen Phillips just bad luck, are 1:04:26.400 --> 1:04:28.840 coming off massive injuries. Both of them might not be 1:04:28.920 --> 1:04:30.520 ready for the start of the season, so you could 1:04:30.560 --> 1:04:33.320 be starting or certainly asking Chop Robinson to play a 1:04:33.360 --> 1:04:35.400 lot of snaps. Shack Barry is on that roster too. 1:04:35.480 --> 1:04:36.480 Quiet signing by. 1:04:36.360 --> 1:04:38.640 Them, and they were like their pass rushing fell apart 1:04:38.640 --> 1:04:40.200 at the end of last season. I don't hate I 1:04:40.520 --> 1:04:42.000 like to pick for them. I thought that, like Chop 1:04:42.080 --> 1:04:43.440 Robinson was interesting to watch. 1:04:43.880 --> 1:04:45.600 I thought Xavier Worthy there would. 1:04:45.360 --> 1:04:48.040 Have been that would have been whining, but he landed 1:04:48.080 --> 1:04:50.120 in a pretty fascinating place. I thought it was I 1:04:50.160 --> 1:04:52.800 thought it was weird and that you don't usually see this. 1:04:53.400 --> 1:04:57.040 I think it was Daniel Jeremiah who said that Chop 1:04:57.120 --> 1:05:00.240 Robinson his nickname of Chop is because of like the 1:05:00.400 --> 1:05:03.040 choppy steps he takes. He's known for, Like that's the 1:05:03.040 --> 1:05:05.040 way he kind of moves, and that's one of the 1:05:05.080 --> 1:05:08.160 things that perhaps they want to coach out of him. 1:05:08.480 --> 1:05:10.600 So you want to quar nick out. Yeah, the thing 1:05:10.680 --> 1:05:13.680 that his actual like his nickname. Wow, Yeah, I don't 1:05:13.720 --> 1:05:14.000 like that. 1:05:14.160 --> 1:05:15.360 I didn't like that at all. 1:05:15.400 --> 1:05:21.479 Old regular steps Robinson. Yeah, that's troubling anyway. Let's move 1:05:21.840 --> 1:05:24.880 to the Eagles, who have done it again, ladies and gentlemen, 1:05:25.000 --> 1:05:28.040 boys and girls. As you heard you heard it here 1:05:28.040 --> 1:05:32.440 first that the Eagles won the draft Night one with 1:05:32.560 --> 1:05:37.120 Quinyan Mitchell out of Toledo cornerback, high value. And I 1:05:37.160 --> 1:05:39.520 was seeing it everywhere. But let's call this one up. 1:05:40.760 --> 1:05:44.919 I saw this. Quinyan Mitchell electrifies Eagles fans at number 1:05:44.920 --> 1:05:49.600 twenty two Comma Heist of the twenty twenty four NFL drafts. 1:05:49.600 --> 1:05:55.640 So rest easy, everyone, The sheep are still herded together. 1:05:55.840 --> 1:06:02.240 Oh trope of Yes, what all the smart people say 1:06:02.240 --> 1:06:04.200 the Eagles do everything right? So I will say that 1:06:04.280 --> 1:06:07.720 immediately on instinct, and then I'll be amongst the safe people. 1:06:07.800 --> 1:06:10.360 Well, this bit must be, uh, this is all in 1:06:10.400 --> 1:06:13.760 your head. This bit must be really resonating because after 1:06:13.840 --> 1:06:16.720 this pick, and of course I complimented something about the Eagles, 1:06:16.720 --> 1:06:17.320 Everyone's like. 1:06:17.320 --> 1:06:19.560 Is that going to be okay? With Dan? Hey? 1:06:19.920 --> 1:06:22.000 All we heard all week is like, there's no chance 1:06:22.000 --> 1:06:24.400 Howie Roseman sticking in picking. He does kind of trade 1:06:24.480 --> 1:06:28.040 up and trade out, but how he's so far ahead 1:06:28.080 --> 1:06:30.200 of the rest of the league. He knew somehow that 1:06:30.320 --> 1:06:32.640 he was going to have his pick of any cornerback 1:06:32.680 --> 1:06:35.960 in the draft his number one need. So we think alike. 1:06:36.040 --> 1:06:39.560 After all these podcasts together, Dan I also collected some 1:06:39.720 --> 1:06:42.600 reaction to the Eagles picks. 1:06:42.640 --> 1:06:48.160 We have a series of Doug Ferrar is higher than 1:06:48.200 --> 1:06:48.800 an A plus. 1:06:50.600 --> 1:06:53.640 Let's go there is nothing higher than an A plus, 1:06:53.960 --> 1:06:56.200 Lindsay Roads, our great friend likely fun to be an 1:06:56.200 --> 1:07:01.080 Eagles fan on draft. Every pick just feels perpot ah ah, what. 1:07:01.040 --> 1:07:02.280 Are you talking? We got one more? 1:07:02.360 --> 1:07:04.919 We got one more? This was my favorite one. How 1:07:04.920 --> 1:07:06.560 he can't keep getting away with this? 1:07:08.440 --> 1:07:12.960 I think Dan's point has been made. Howie mother, it's 1:07:13.040 --> 1:07:14.960 it's a perfect It looks like a great pick. I'm 1:07:14.960 --> 1:07:16.800 just saying it. It is a good way. 1:07:16.840 --> 1:07:21.600 People in our industry tend to want to gravitate toward 1:07:21.640 --> 1:07:25.600 who are the the thought leaders on social media, and 1:07:26.040 --> 1:07:29.040 they know that the Eagles are very popular amongst those people, 1:07:29.800 --> 1:07:32.880 one of them, and so they'll just say, oh, let 1:07:32.880 --> 1:07:35.760 me immediately get my take out there, my little keyboard. Yeah, 1:07:35.800 --> 1:07:37.480 get my little keyboard out there. I'll get my take 1:07:37.480 --> 1:07:39.520 out there, and I'll align with the smart people. And 1:07:39.520 --> 1:07:40.600 then people think I'm smart. 1:07:40.600 --> 1:07:42.400 I think I think I saw these people have the 1:07:42.440 --> 1:07:45.760 same opinion. I think Dan is absolutely onto something. And then, 1:07:45.840 --> 1:07:48.920 like rosemand got going early. They signed aj Brown to 1:07:48.920 --> 1:07:51.200 a three year deal right after the DeVante Smith thing, 1:07:51.200 --> 1:07:53.200 which I thought cleared up what could have been an 1:07:53.240 --> 1:07:56.080 off season you know, drama, drama gone. 1:07:56.120 --> 1:07:58.120 Howie Roseman, what great to give. 1:07:57.960 --> 1:08:00.040 That A plus plus plus plus plus it was this 1:08:00.320 --> 1:08:03.480 that was like a sneaky big contract is by far 1:08:03.600 --> 1:08:04.160 the biggest thing. 1:08:04.200 --> 1:08:06.160 They just gave a huge contract to a wide receivers. 1:08:05.920 --> 1:08:09.000 Eighty four million guarantee right if thirty two a year 1:08:09.040 --> 1:08:12.240 in new money, which is easily the most. And we'll 1:08:12.240 --> 1:08:13.880 have to look at all the details and stuff, but 1:08:14.040 --> 1:08:16.719 this is setting the bar. I think these these wide 1:08:16.760 --> 1:08:18.840 receiver contracts are going to get crazy. Everyone's trying to 1:08:18.880 --> 1:08:22.040 get in before Jefferson because the aman Ross Saint Brown contract. 1:08:22.040 --> 1:08:24.240 We never hit that on this on the pod just 1:08:24.240 --> 1:08:27.439 because of timing, but both him and Piney Sewell got 1:08:27.560 --> 1:08:29.599 monster deals from the Lions. 1:08:29.640 --> 1:08:31.000 Classy move by the Lions. 1:08:31.040 --> 1:08:33.920 They give their stars huge contracts way before the draft, 1:08:34.040 --> 1:08:36.559 and then they bring them out to introduce the draft 1:08:36.880 --> 1:08:39.320 along with Megatron and them and. 1:08:39.640 --> 1:08:42.160 There has to be a tradition obviously pretty good sense 1:08:42.240 --> 1:08:43.960 to the moment. Every team at the moment. 1:08:43.720 --> 1:08:45.960 Every team that's hosting should do that with their here 1:08:46.040 --> 1:08:48.320 their legends, because it's a great moment for them and 1:08:48.400 --> 1:08:51.439 the fans that are there for ten hours. All kidding aside, 1:08:52.200 --> 1:08:54.639 I think it's a perfectly good pick for the Eagles. 1:08:54.880 --> 1:08:56.680 They do know what they're doing, and I did. I 1:08:56.760 --> 1:09:01.080 think it left me. I felt a little I felt 1:09:01.080 --> 1:09:03.560 a little bad, quite honestly about I don't want to 1:09:03.600 --> 1:09:06.240 be in a like a blood feud with Philadelphia because 1:09:06.240 --> 1:09:09.320 I don't have any issues with Philadelphia. 1:09:08.960 --> 1:09:09.600 Apparently not. 1:09:09.760 --> 1:09:12.519 I really don't like about those Sixers Nicks series going 1:09:12.560 --> 1:09:15.040 on that that's great and that's fun. And the Sixers 1:09:15.040 --> 1:09:17.000 got off the mat tonight. It's a good job by them. 1:09:17.400 --> 1:09:20.799 But so there's a there's I guess that's a rivalry. 1:09:20.840 --> 1:09:23.320 But I'm not a Mets fan, so like the Phillies 1:09:23.360 --> 1:09:27.320 don't bother me, and I'm not a Giants fan, contrary 1:09:27.400 --> 1:09:29.519 to popular belief by people who listen to the show, 1:09:29.720 --> 1:09:31.479 so I don't have an Eagles hatred. 1:09:31.760 --> 1:09:33.720 In fact, I'm going to share some things I like 1:09:33.760 --> 1:09:34.560 about Philadelphia. 1:09:34.800 --> 1:09:35.000 I am. 1:09:35.280 --> 1:09:42.760 Let's take a brief aside here Hall of Oates, love 1:09:42.760 --> 1:09:47.200 hall of Oates. How about cheese steaks with the cheese whizz. 1:09:49.120 --> 1:09:50.719 Mark can't wait till they are both. 1:09:52.560 --> 1:09:54.000 He's like, we're going to be here five more. I 1:09:54.040 --> 1:09:55.880 give them both. A lot of people say, oh, I 1:09:55.920 --> 1:09:58.679 only like Hall not Over, but I'm both from Philly. 1:09:59.000 --> 1:10:01.360 They're Philly. Yeah that Philly for real? Is there a 1:10:01.360 --> 1:10:02.840 third item? More? Mark? 1:10:03.000 --> 1:10:05.920 Okay, Randall Cunningham's ninety one yard punt? 1:10:06.400 --> 1:10:08.519 Love that? Yeah, yep, good? Remember that. 1:10:09.680 --> 1:10:13.920 I meant the Giant team. But how about like that 1:10:14.040 --> 1:10:15.960 ninety two yard throw that touchdown? 1:10:16.040 --> 1:10:16.479 Love that too? 1:10:16.640 --> 1:10:19.120 And I love that move the Superman dive in the 1:10:19.200 --> 1:10:21.479 end zone. Love it all, but the ninety one yard 1:10:21.520 --> 1:10:24.960 punt is better. I like Bryce Harper speaking of the Phillies, 1:10:25.040 --> 1:10:27.960 He's a fun guy to watch. I like Questlove. I 1:10:28.040 --> 1:10:30.080 like the Roots, I got good songs. 1:10:30.400 --> 1:10:33.280 I like, uh, it's always sunny in Philadelphia or listening 1:10:33.320 --> 1:10:36.120 to it right now? The theme? Yeah, I mean that's 1:10:36.160 --> 1:10:38.200 a Hollywood product. Put okay, you know what. I like 1:10:38.840 --> 1:10:43.240 the Declaration of Independence? Bitch, that's American. Where was the 1:10:43.320 --> 1:10:46.040 sign near that crack bell? I get it? I like 1:10:46.120 --> 1:10:49.479 Silver Linings Playbook. Okay, do you I do. I love 1:10:49.520 --> 1:10:52.600 that movie. Actually, even though Bradley Cooper's in, Yeah, I 1:10:52.600 --> 1:10:54.639 feel like that one of the main star. You seem 1:10:54.680 --> 1:10:55.200 to dislike that. 1:10:55.280 --> 1:10:58.719 I love several of the m Night Shyamalan films, fine, 1:10:58.920 --> 1:11:02.679 several of them, and most of all, I love Colleen Wolf. 1:11:03.520 --> 1:11:06.800 So okay, put it all together, and uh, it's not 1:11:06.920 --> 1:11:09.439 all bad. So I want to I want to make 1:11:09.439 --> 1:11:12.920 peace with Philly if if you want, we could bury 1:11:12.960 --> 1:11:13.760 the hatchet here tonight. 1:11:13.800 --> 1:11:16.400 I think Greg and I are watching you evolved before 1:11:16.439 --> 1:11:19.479 our eyes on this episode of the podcast. 1:11:19.560 --> 1:11:21.920 If you if you watch us on night YouTube, you 1:11:21.920 --> 1:11:24.320 should check that out. Get you know, we'll have it up. 1:11:25.400 --> 1:11:28.240 You'll see Brian Baldinger was there with with Colleen, also 1:11:28.280 --> 1:11:31.040 from Philly. Right, yeah, Paul in Philly. But I didn't notice. 1:11:31.080 --> 1:11:33.360 You didn't mention, you know, Gonzo. 1:11:33.360 --> 1:11:36.839 The oh, I love Gonzo. John goes without saying. 1:11:36.880 --> 1:11:38.400 I mean I could sit here all day just naming 1:11:38.400 --> 1:11:39.680 every person I've ever met from him. 1:11:39.840 --> 1:11:42.559 Right, but he's the husband of the you know the woman. 1:11:42.760 --> 1:11:47.680 This is great. It's very Greg, but yes, John two, okay, good. 1:11:48.040 --> 1:11:49.800 I didn't want to leave now, Greg's like, let's let 1:11:49.800 --> 1:11:52.040 me not get out of this segment without some feud 1:11:52.080 --> 1:11:54.160 being created between you and someone's husband. 1:11:55.040 --> 1:11:58.800 All right, let's move on. The Jacksonville Jaguars. Oh, I 1:11:58.840 --> 1:11:59.479 love this one. 1:11:59.520 --> 1:11:59.960 This one. 1:12:00.600 --> 1:12:04.519 This is via a trade with Minnesota through Cleveland from Houston. 1:12:04.920 --> 1:12:10.120 They Brian Thomas, the wide receiver out of LSU and 1:12:10.400 --> 1:12:12.080 the writing this would have been I feel like an 1:12:12.080 --> 1:12:15.519 easy sandwich, Greg if anybody threw it out there because 1:12:15.560 --> 1:12:18.680 they badly wanted Calvin Ridley back and they thought it 1:12:18.720 --> 1:12:21.280 was in the bag, and then they ended up getting 1:12:21.640 --> 1:12:24.080 losing him because another team blew him out of the water. 1:12:25.000 --> 1:12:27.439 So now they replaced Calvin Ridley and that was a need. 1:12:28.240 --> 1:12:31.439 If a different team made this trade, everyone be like, 1:12:31.760 --> 1:12:34.679 oh they did it again, like they Trent Balki played 1:12:34.680 --> 1:12:37.840 the board perfectly. This is not typically what the Jaguars did. 1:12:37.840 --> 1:12:40.799 But they were at seventeen overall where I thought Brian 1:12:40.840 --> 1:12:44.439 Thomas Junior would have or could have been the pick there. 1:12:44.439 --> 1:12:46.880 They also could have taken a cornerback certainly, but I 1:12:46.880 --> 1:12:49.720 thought they. I love Thomas, people just don't move like him. 1:12:49.720 --> 1:12:51.760 He reminds me a little bit of DK Metcalf just 1:12:51.800 --> 1:12:54.120 in the not like he's as big as as physical. 1:12:54.240 --> 1:12:56.479 He's more of just a burner and smooth, but just 1:12:56.520 --> 1:12:59.040 like he has one skill set that is just so 1:12:59.200 --> 1:13:01.519 exceptional that he can learn the rest as they go. 1:13:01.680 --> 1:13:03.760 And so they moved back six spots. They got all 1:13:03.800 --> 1:13:05.640 these picks. We talked about that the Vikings gave up 1:13:06.280 --> 1:13:08.880 a third and a fourth next year and I think 1:13:09.240 --> 1:13:11.599 really added some juice to that offense. That is a 1:13:11.720 --> 1:13:15.280 speedy offense with ETN, Gabe Davis and Brian Thomas and 1:13:15.320 --> 1:13:15.840 I mean if. 1:13:15.720 --> 1:13:18.200 You look at their wide out room, Christian kirk, z 1:13:18.200 --> 1:13:21.040 A Jones, Gabe Davis and Evan Ingram at tight end, 1:13:21.120 --> 1:13:23.680 like this is a fact. There's a lot going on 1:13:23.720 --> 1:13:27.120 here in terms of right speed, downfield speed and Thomas 1:13:27.240 --> 1:13:28.240 is a deep bul thread. 1:13:28.400 --> 1:13:32.479 Did you guys see the Jaguars war room at this time? Yes, 1:13:32.760 --> 1:13:36.320 that was good, pretty tough. Tony Kahan, who's been on 1:13:36.360 --> 1:13:38.519 the show. He's the son of Seod conn and he's 1:13:38.520 --> 1:13:41.280 a you know, a big figure obviously with the Jaguars, 1:13:41.360 --> 1:13:44.920 and I believe he owns a wrestling. 1:13:44.560 --> 1:13:47.720 Yeah, he was like this like in the Latin the 1:13:47.720 --> 1:13:49.760 past couple of days was body slammed we have this 1:13:49.960 --> 1:13:50.599 wrestling event. 1:13:51.040 --> 1:13:55.599 He got pile of driven into the ground and listen, 1:13:56.000 --> 1:13:59.519 wrestling is scripted, but the guys take real bumps. And 1:13:59.720 --> 1:14:02.400 Tony takes a bump that requires him to wear a 1:14:02.439 --> 1:14:04.519 neck brace, and I just have like a take here. 1:14:04.880 --> 1:14:08.720 Neck braces in general, they're rough, like you, like, no 1:14:08.760 --> 1:14:11.040 one looks good in a neck brace. There's something truly 1:14:11.160 --> 1:14:14.000 vulnerable about being stuck in a neck brace. The way 1:14:14.000 --> 1:14:16.400 you're like stiff and you you have no range of 1:14:16.479 --> 1:14:19.000 You're like Michael Keaton in the first Batman, like you 1:14:19.040 --> 1:14:21.559 can't move and your just eyes are darting around. 1:14:21.560 --> 1:14:23.680 You just don't look very good. It's tough, tough, bad 1:14:23.720 --> 1:14:27.040 beat ready to come on? How do you have a controller? 1:14:27.040 --> 1:14:27.880 And take about neck brace? 1:14:28.360 --> 1:14:30.280 Because it's it's kate what do they call it? Kate 1:14:30.320 --> 1:14:32.840 fabri what like he's playing it up. It's a wink 1:14:32.880 --> 1:14:36.559 wink to the whole wrestling community. Yeah, of course it's 1:14:36.560 --> 1:14:40.000 a bit he got. It's wrestling. He's making it really, 1:14:40.000 --> 1:14:41.880 he's making it real. I would say it if you 1:14:42.040 --> 1:14:43.240 in that. Everyone loved it. 1:14:43.320 --> 1:14:46.320 He did seem to be to have full uh full 1:14:46.360 --> 1:14:49.640 motion and he was struggling with his I mean are 1:14:49.680 --> 1:14:52.679 you are you are you telling me that people don't 1:14:52.680 --> 1:14:53.799 get injured in wrestling? 1:14:54.040 --> 1:14:56.439 Of course they do, But I follow I guess enough 1:14:56.479 --> 1:14:59.240 wrestling fans on Twitter that were just going nuts that 1:14:59.400 --> 1:15:01.200 like he took it this far that he acted. They 1:15:01.240 --> 1:15:03.920 were like basically people were begging and hoping he would 1:15:03.920 --> 1:15:06.479 wear the neck brace to the thing because he's not 1:15:06.600 --> 1:15:07.720 really he's not really here. 1:15:07.800 --> 1:15:10.120 And he did it, and he did it. He ended it. 1:15:10.200 --> 1:15:12.200 Your point to it, and he did it last night. 1:15:12.240 --> 1:15:12.600 Would do it. 1:15:13.560 --> 1:15:15.920 He did it last day on national TV to set 1:15:15.960 --> 1:15:16.280 it up. 1:15:16.320 --> 1:15:17.599 He's one step ahead of you. 1:15:17.840 --> 1:15:21.040 He's promoting the injury is one step ahead of the draft. 1:15:21.400 --> 1:15:23.519 I think he wants to be on national television and 1:15:23.520 --> 1:15:27.160 the neck brace. Yes, yeah, I think it's it's we're 1:15:27.240 --> 1:15:30.120 talking about it an act. Yes, I'm just saying it's 1:15:30.120 --> 1:15:32.760 a tough. It's tough. You're not wrong about the neck break. 1:15:32.840 --> 1:15:34.360 Have you ever watch wrestling in your life? 1:15:34.520 --> 1:15:38.880 Yeah? Injuries happen, I know. But in this case, how 1:15:38.880 --> 1:15:39.800 can you be so sure? 1:15:40.400 --> 1:15:44.439 Because because he owns the company and they set it 1:15:44.520 --> 1:15:45.000 up that. 1:15:44.840 --> 1:15:49.080 It happened to he was was he actually pile driven? Yes? 1:15:49.360 --> 1:15:51.240 And then they is it possibly could have hurt his 1:15:51.280 --> 1:15:52.360 neck taking the pile driver. 1:15:53.800 --> 1:15:56.439 You'd have to say it's I will I will defer 1:15:56.560 --> 1:15:59.360 to all the wrestling enthusiasts that are into it night 1:15:59.400 --> 1:16:03.759 after night, who all acknowledged and embraced that he's having 1:16:03.800 --> 1:16:05.120 some fun here. 1:16:04.640 --> 1:16:08.840 I Greg Greg, Like any on any pocket of Twitter, 1:16:08.920 --> 1:16:11.800 Greg is one of the largest followers of every. 1:16:11.520 --> 1:16:14.160 Pocket's got a terrible take. 1:16:16.880 --> 1:16:19.200 Wing once on this show, but he is also one 1:16:19.200 --> 1:16:22.040 of the largest Twitter followers of wrestling fanatics. 1:16:22.080 --> 1:16:27.320 The answer making news. Greg knows everything. But there's no 1:16:27.560 --> 1:16:32.400 question you're wrong in this no question. It's impossible. Wait, 1:16:32.479 --> 1:16:37.880 what's breaking it? Well, yeah, that you're wrong. Oh that's 1:16:37.920 --> 1:16:42.040 impossible now all the time. But in this case, you're wrong. 1:16:42.479 --> 1:16:46.840 But how do you know? I'm just curious, like you, 1:16:47.120 --> 1:16:51.920 you must know because it's I wouldn't this happened. 1:16:51.960 --> 1:16:54.000 I sort of was like, he did it, like it's 1:16:54.040 --> 1:16:57.120 an amazing that's an amazing marketing bit that you set up. 1:16:57.680 --> 1:17:00.240 Marketing because it does set up your national team. I 1:17:01.280 --> 1:17:03.320 think he turned put up put it this way. I 1:17:03.400 --> 1:17:06.280 think he turned lemons into lemonade. I think he got 1:17:06.360 --> 1:17:07.200 dinked in a big spot. 1:17:07.439 --> 1:17:10.559 I think you're you're all right, kind of a Mario 1:17:10.600 --> 1:17:12.760 Smims is like, could they have spent seven minutes on 1:17:12.960 --> 1:17:15.040 on my on the greatest day of mind. 1:17:15.080 --> 1:17:18.240 The Lions, via trade with the Dallas Cowboys, take Terry 1:17:18.280 --> 1:17:22.080 and Arnold, the cornerback out of Alabama. The Packers take 1:17:22.240 --> 1:17:25.880 offensive tackle Jordan Morgan out of Arizona. The Bucks select 1:17:26.000 --> 1:17:30.799 Graham Barton, tackle at a Duke a center that apparently 1:17:30.880 --> 1:17:34.840 the Cowboys wanted a piece of and don't get them. 1:17:35.360 --> 1:17:38.120 And the Cardinals via the Houston Texans they had that 1:17:38.200 --> 1:17:40.920 extra first round pick from their trade last year, take 1:17:41.040 --> 1:17:44.240 Darius Robbins Robinson, defensive end at a Missouri. 1:17:45.280 --> 1:17:46.760 I think for. 1:17:46.880 --> 1:17:51.120 Detroit they were fortunate, as were you know, a number 1:17:51.160 --> 1:17:54.479 of teams that the cornerback run came late that that 1:17:55.600 --> 1:17:58.719 this really was sort of the final position that Detroit 1:17:58.840 --> 1:17:59.719 needed to address. 1:18:00.280 --> 1:18:02.720 And Terry Arnold falls into your lap. 1:18:02.840 --> 1:18:05.920 He's from Alabama, you know he can play, and you 1:18:06.080 --> 1:18:09.000 added Carlton Davis in the offseason, You've got Brian Branch. 1:18:09.600 --> 1:18:12.200 Suddenly it looks like a strength. If Arnold works out, 1:18:12.240 --> 1:18:13.000 you've got a strength. 1:18:13.439 --> 1:18:16.080 He was probably the safest cornerback in the draft just 1:18:16.080 --> 1:18:19.559 because he's from Alabama. He's a Lions type of guy, 1:18:19.640 --> 1:18:22.960 and then to see him come out and the crowd 1:18:23.160 --> 1:18:25.400 just go crazy for him, and he was like ready 1:18:25.479 --> 1:18:27.959 for that moment and like embraced it and said. 1:18:27.760 --> 1:18:30.559 I'm home, I'm home. I just want to say, Detroit 1:18:31.280 --> 1:18:38.000 put y'all got a start, man, he come home. Man, 1:18:41.840 --> 1:18:44.920 that's awesome. Well I dig that. All right. 1:18:44.960 --> 1:18:47.040 Let's stop down right here, take a quick break, and 1:18:47.200 --> 1:18:51.000 we'll be back with more of round one. All right, 1:18:51.080 --> 1:18:55.120 we're back number twenty eight. The Kansas City Chiefs. They 1:18:55.240 --> 1:18:59.400 move up, they trade up, They trade up for a 1:18:59.439 --> 1:19:01.720 wide receiver. Does that sound familiar. We'll talk about it 1:19:01.800 --> 1:19:05.600 on Saturday. And they take Xavier Worthy. And there's a 1:19:05.640 --> 1:19:08.120 lot of reasons to be excited about this pick because 1:19:08.200 --> 1:19:11.599 that is the saving savior. Worthy that ran a four 1:19:11.680 --> 1:19:15.080 point two to one at the combine, setting the record 1:19:15.160 --> 1:19:16.400 at that event for speed. 1:19:16.720 --> 1:19:18.439 He's undersized Mark Sessler. 1:19:18.840 --> 1:19:22.519 However, the Chiefs have been missing this element of their 1:19:22.600 --> 1:19:26.040 offense since Tyreek Hill was traded. And we will not 1:19:26.280 --> 1:19:29.680 go into a new season in Kansas City being like 1:19:29.800 --> 1:19:32.880 they haven't added something new and exciting. This Whether it 1:19:32.960 --> 1:19:35.680 works or not, whether his as an undersized receiver, he's 1:19:35.680 --> 1:19:38.320 able to translate at one hundred and sixty five pounds 1:19:38.360 --> 1:19:39.400 of bucks sixty five. 1:19:39.840 --> 1:19:44.760 We'll see, but this is an exciting idea. Yes, and 1:19:44.840 --> 1:19:46.040 they went for it, and he's. 1:19:45.920 --> 1:19:49.760 Getting to Sean Jackson comps and you added Hollywood Brown. 1:19:50.240 --> 1:19:51.439 So they've addressed it. 1:19:51.840 --> 1:19:55.080 And I think the one of the more fascinating for me, 1:19:55.360 --> 1:20:00.160 unpredictable turns in this draft post Pennix Junior, is that 1:20:00.320 --> 1:20:03.800 the Bills allowed the Chiefs to trade into their spot 1:20:03.920 --> 1:20:05.320 when they also needed a wide receiver. 1:20:05.479 --> 1:20:08.080 And we'll get to what they didn't do later. 1:20:08.280 --> 1:20:11.360 But the Chiefs, of all teams to trade with, allowed 1:20:11.400 --> 1:20:13.880 to come into that space and take a guy that 1:20:14.000 --> 1:20:16.439 amps up their offense. I don't know, you know what, 1:20:17.280 --> 1:20:18.680 just because it's the Bills, I guess it could have 1:20:18.680 --> 1:20:20.240 been anyone. It just seems to me if you're a 1:20:20.280 --> 1:20:23.320 Bills fan, you're like, excuse me, you did what where now? 1:20:23.479 --> 1:20:25.640 Today? With the with the Chiefs. Well, let's ask Eric 1:20:25.720 --> 1:20:27.800 the producer, Eric, where you're at. 1:20:29.120 --> 1:20:31.840 Yeah, I mean it's I mean, yeah, it's definitely situations 1:20:32.400 --> 1:20:33.519 you don't do with the Chiefs. 1:20:33.640 --> 1:20:35.040 It's they might as well be in your division. 1:20:35.120 --> 1:20:39.080 It's like, I think it's worse yeah, yeah, yeah, I 1:20:39.080 --> 1:20:40.840 mean the Jets haven't ripped our heart out, you know 1:20:41.040 --> 1:20:42.840 every year from no, like they're the ones that won't 1:20:42.880 --> 1:20:45.240 let you go. You're on the blacklist, and then you 1:20:45.320 --> 1:20:47.920 give them, you know, a speedster that we're probably gonna 1:20:47.920 --> 1:20:51.320 give you Tyreek Kill flashbacks and and yeah, and then 1:20:51.520 --> 1:20:55.280 like Mark alluded to, they you know, eventually trade themselves 1:20:55.360 --> 1:20:57.960 out of the first round entirely and don't address anything. 1:20:58.040 --> 1:21:00.479 And it was a weird day. I hear that. 1:21:00.600 --> 1:21:04.040 And but like if the value was good and it 1:21:04.080 --> 1:21:06.280 didn't get that much. Actually they just got to move 1:21:06.400 --> 1:21:10.280 up from the third to the fourth. And it's like 1:21:10.520 --> 1:21:13.639 twenty seven straight teams didn't want Xavier Worthy. The Bills 1:21:13.680 --> 1:21:17.400 didn't want Xavier Worthy. Can maybe Xavier Worthy would have 1:21:17.400 --> 1:21:19.320 felt like two or three more picks? Want me be 1:21:19.400 --> 1:21:21.960 a good pick one argument though, Greg, because the way 1:21:22.040 --> 1:21:24.040 the way it turns out, and the Bills will pick 1:21:24.080 --> 1:21:26.479 you know, first of all, two more wide receivers went 1:21:26.520 --> 1:21:28.840 off the board before they'll pick again, So it's not 1:21:29.000 --> 1:21:32.160 just about Xavier Worthy. But maybe, yeah, maybe they If 1:21:32.160 --> 1:21:33.920 you're a Bills fan, you're like, what are are we 1:21:34.040 --> 1:21:35.080 the AFC's cowboys. 1:21:35.120 --> 1:21:36.920 This officer there would even more. 1:21:37.640 --> 1:21:39.679 Like Ady Mitchell, who is a lot of people's wide 1:21:39.680 --> 1:21:42.400 receiver four or five, is still there and was commonly 1:21:42.479 --> 1:21:45.280 mocked to the Bills, including I think by you, Mark, 1:21:45.320 --> 1:21:46.720 because I think that was the one pick you and 1:21:46.840 --> 1:21:49.840 Walker had the same and they could still take him 1:21:49.960 --> 1:21:53.000 there at at thirty three. I do think Worthy though, 1:21:53.479 --> 1:21:54.960 it's gonna end up being a big part of our 1:21:55.000 --> 1:21:58.439 lives because he's with the Chiefs and he's he's not 1:21:58.680 --> 1:22:01.760 John Ross, he's not Henry Ruggs. To me like he's 1:22:01.800 --> 1:22:06.400 a great route runner, Like he has real like lateral 1:22:06.520 --> 1:22:10.040 movement skills. Now can he survive like at that wait, 1:22:10.280 --> 1:22:13.320 that is a larger question, But he was on a 1:22:13.400 --> 1:22:16.040 team with another guy who's gonna get taken very early tomorrow, 1:22:16.080 --> 1:22:19.160 Ady Mitchell, and like Xavier Worthy was clearly the one, 1:22:19.800 --> 1:22:23.240 and his speed just sort of made defenses have to 1:22:23.320 --> 1:22:25.479 approach them completely different. 1:22:25.720 --> 1:22:27.559 And I think he's gonna be a weapon. 1:22:28.120 --> 1:22:31.280 The Dallas Cowboys that picked twenty nine, they want to 1:22:31.360 --> 1:22:34.519 make that splash this season, but it just nothing seems 1:22:34.560 --> 1:22:38.080 to be going their way. They do end up with 1:22:38.160 --> 1:22:41.640 Tyler Geitton, who is a very big, very physical, very 1:22:41.760 --> 1:22:46.479 fast and athletically gifted tackle prospect out of Oklahoma. But 1:22:46.600 --> 1:22:48.800 another guy like Mims that we were talking about, only 1:22:48.880 --> 1:22:52.439 fifteen college starts. He's seen as a raw prospect and 1:22:52.560 --> 1:22:55.320 for a team that's very much all in now, there's 1:22:55.320 --> 1:22:57.240 a little bit of a gamble here that can you 1:22:57.320 --> 1:22:58.840 get him up to speed and have him be a 1:22:58.880 --> 1:23:02.200 contributor right now actually within a hole on the line 1:23:02.320 --> 1:23:03.600 after Tyron Smith. 1:23:04.160 --> 1:23:07.040 Now supposedly they really wanted to tackle and Graham Barton 1:23:08.040 --> 1:23:10.479 it was a tackle on college, but some people see 1:23:10.560 --> 1:23:13.320 him more as a center into your alignment and the pros. 1:23:13.400 --> 1:23:17.000 But like that was like our guy, Nate Tice, one 1:23:17.040 --> 1:23:19.280 of his very favorite players in the draft, thought he's 1:23:19.439 --> 1:23:22.280 been way overlooked, like a top fifteen player, just going 1:23:22.360 --> 1:23:24.680 to be as safe a pick as you could possibly have, 1:23:24.800 --> 1:23:26.640 a guy that can play right away. And they end 1:23:26.720 --> 1:23:28.400 up trading out of that pick when people thought they 1:23:28.479 --> 1:23:30.840 might take him, maybe hoping he'd fall to twenty nine, 1:23:31.280 --> 1:23:32.880 and instead they get a guy who kind of looks 1:23:32.920 --> 1:23:35.720 like a project. And they need guys to play right away, 1:23:35.760 --> 1:23:37.800 and Guyton is supposed to be one of those guys 1:23:37.840 --> 1:23:39.479 that might need a year or two to develop. 1:23:40.200 --> 1:23:42.120 I like what the Cardinals did too, by the way, 1:23:42.240 --> 1:23:45.200 Darius Robinson. But I go back to Graham Barton. I 1:23:45.280 --> 1:23:48.599 think Graham Barton is the Bucks took him, is one 1:23:48.600 --> 1:23:50.759 of the more intriguing a lignement in this entire draft. 1:23:50.880 --> 1:23:52.960 And we talked about a couple of shows. Ago can 1:23:53.040 --> 1:23:56.519 play all over the place. I think that's the steal 1:23:56.600 --> 1:23:58.080 for the Bucks. I thought he was going to go 1:23:58.120 --> 1:23:59.759 to Philadelphia if they didn't go cornerback. 1:24:00.120 --> 1:24:05.240 Light's been think you good remaking their offensive line, and 1:24:07.040 --> 1:24:09.000 the picks don't always look good like the first year, 1:24:09.080 --> 1:24:10.559 Like Gadeki didn't look great the first year, and then 1:24:10.600 --> 1:24:12.320 it looks pretty good a year or two later. 1:24:12.400 --> 1:24:13.320 He's done a nice job. 1:24:13.840 --> 1:24:16.799 The Ravens take Nate Wiggins, the cornerback at at Clemson. 1:24:17.640 --> 1:24:20.719 The Niners take Ricky Piersall, the wide receiver out of Florida. 1:24:21.560 --> 1:24:25.720 That sounds very spicy potentially in that offense, and you know, 1:24:25.840 --> 1:24:28.639 more questions about what's the future in that wide receiver 1:24:28.760 --> 1:24:32.840 room because you're just adding another big time player or 1:24:32.840 --> 1:24:35.120 a first round pick, and you already have Deebo Samuel 1:24:35.200 --> 1:24:38.960 there still obviously Brandon Aiyuk there, there's still room for 1:24:39.000 --> 1:24:39.240 them all. 1:24:39.280 --> 1:24:42.120 Greg you but just keep an eye on and the Panthers. 1:24:42.200 --> 1:24:45.479 Then they have the first pick of the second round, 1:24:45.520 --> 1:24:46.920 but they say, no, we want to get into the 1:24:47.000 --> 1:24:49.479 first round, so they trade with the Bills. You trade 1:24:49.520 --> 1:24:54.639 out of the first round entirely, and they take Xavier 1:24:54.800 --> 1:24:58.800 Loget wide receiver out of South Carolina, the final wide 1:24:58.840 --> 1:25:02.400 receiver taken tons of wide receivers seven in the first round. 1:25:03.520 --> 1:25:05.679 Thoughts well, the purece all pick. 1:25:05.720 --> 1:25:08.439 I was really keeping an eye on when that went 1:25:08.520 --> 1:25:11.719 on the board, because earlier in the day Tom Currn 1:25:12.800 --> 1:25:14.479 put out there on one of his shows just just 1:25:14.640 --> 1:25:17.960 talking that the Patriots have been working on an Ayuk trade. 1:25:19.120 --> 1:25:23.280 That yea, it's not definitive, but when the forty nine 1:25:23.360 --> 1:25:25.280 ers get on the board, keep an eye. If they 1:25:25.360 --> 1:25:28.439 take a wide receiver, then we might be talking a 1:25:28.479 --> 1:25:31.000 lot on Friday, whether the Patriots end up trading that 1:25:31.120 --> 1:25:33.240 number thirty four overall pick they have the number two 1:25:33.320 --> 1:25:36.240 pick in the second round as part of a brand 1:25:36.280 --> 1:25:37.000 in AYUK trade. 1:25:37.920 --> 1:25:40.080 John Lynch, you know, laughed it off a little bit. 1:25:40.120 --> 1:25:42.360 They asked him about a press conference Thursday night, seeing 1:25:42.360 --> 1:25:44.240 why are we always the ones that you know, people 1:25:44.280 --> 1:25:46.799 are talking about with trades, which is not a denial, 1:25:47.280 --> 1:25:51.679 and it wasn't as specific, but Mike Silver and Diani 1:25:52.000 --> 1:25:56.880 Rassini separately reported on Thursday that the forty nine ers 1:25:56.920 --> 1:26:02.280 had been offering Ayuk and or Deebo Samuel in different trades. 1:26:02.320 --> 1:26:04.960 They said, maybe trying to get way up in the draft, 1:26:05.040 --> 1:26:06.679 like trying to get to the top ten. That clearly 1:26:06.720 --> 1:26:09.280 didn't happen. That was before the draft, but it really 1:26:09.360 --> 1:26:14.360 makes it sound like they're open to trading. I mean, man, 1:26:14.439 --> 1:26:15.760 if the Patriots could get that. 1:26:15.960 --> 1:26:19.000 Do that, I thought that it certainly seems strong they 1:26:19.040 --> 1:26:20.960 were trying to get up into the first round to 1:26:21.080 --> 1:26:22.800 make a move to get a different type of wide 1:26:22.800 --> 1:26:25.559 receiver somewhere else if they're gonna trade one of those guys. 1:26:25.640 --> 1:26:27.560 But throwing debo in there, that kind of threw me 1:26:27.640 --> 1:26:30.040 for a loop that they're both available. I don't think 1:26:30.040 --> 1:26:31.840 they're both available, but right one on the other. 1:26:31.720 --> 1:26:35.160 Out they're available. That is that is pretty wild, and 1:26:36.920 --> 1:26:38.840 that would be a salary cap is a real trade. 1:26:38.920 --> 1:26:41.280 If they traded Ayuk for the thirty second or the 1:26:41.320 --> 1:26:45.400 thirty fourth overall pick that they thought, uh whoever was 1:26:45.479 --> 1:26:47.560 on the board would be worth it. Pearsall's more of 1:26:47.680 --> 1:26:49.880 like a vertical slot guy. You know, got a let 1:26:49.920 --> 1:26:51.479 them pop from Harmon on our wide receiver. 1:26:52.080 --> 1:26:53.639 Sure he's also he's. 1:26:53.479 --> 1:26:56.000 A twenty four year old rookie, but I don't you know, again, 1:26:56.560 --> 1:26:57.679 get them for four years. 1:26:57.600 --> 1:27:00.360 So college football and now it's gonna kind of is 1:27:00.439 --> 1:27:03.280 so weird with the COVID year thing. 1:27:03.520 --> 1:27:05.479 Right, Right, you've got a lot of older rookies. 1:27:05.800 --> 1:27:11.080 Jade and Daniels was once throwing to Ricky pearsaw right 1:27:11.240 --> 1:27:14.439 at Arizona State. Okay, that's not that crazy. Sure in 1:27:14.560 --> 1:27:17.519 Brandon Ayuk, it's like what branded Ayuk's been in the NFL. 1:27:17.600 --> 1:27:19.679 It feels like for a long time Jade and Daniels 1:27:19.800 --> 1:27:21.400 was throwing to I don't know. 1:27:21.920 --> 1:27:24.880 What's what's going And also Steve Steve Smith senior, he 1:27:25.080 --> 1:27:25.680 threw to him too. 1:27:26.880 --> 1:27:29.000 And none of them on the team that you associate 1:27:29.400 --> 1:27:32.160 them with. It was Herman Edwards Arizona State team. 1:27:33.560 --> 1:27:35.479 All right, there you go, that's the first thirty two. 1:27:35.840 --> 1:27:37.800 Why don't we check in Mark. You had your Mox 1:27:37.840 --> 1:27:41.599 Sessler Mark draft. What were the results? Let's bring it up. 1:27:43.400 --> 1:27:44.040 What do we got here? 1:27:44.040 --> 1:27:45.560 All right, so you're going three for three out of 1:27:45.600 --> 1:27:49.040 the gate, I think pretty much everybody did, uh, where 1:27:49.080 --> 1:27:51.719 do you got bow knicks to the Broncos? Nice? 1:27:51.800 --> 1:27:54.080 You had him at twenty seven. Just for everyone listening, 1:27:54.160 --> 1:27:57.000 we also have and he went, well, I believe, but 1:27:57.360 --> 1:28:03.280 we're giving you that obviously, and neighbors Giants, Moleak, neighbors 1:28:03.360 --> 1:28:05.160 to the New York And also we got the Saints. 1:28:05.240 --> 1:28:07.280 Pick there, Oh you got Talise four. I got to 1:28:07.360 --> 1:28:11.240 the Saint that's one nice but overall, hum drum, let's 1:28:11.280 --> 1:28:13.439 be honest, sort of a failure. So you got not 1:28:13.600 --> 1:28:15.599 up to my one, two three? You got five out 1:28:15.640 --> 1:28:18.040 of thirty two? Is that quick? Six? Because you got 1:28:18.120 --> 1:28:22.160 JJ McCarthy. It was later put that counts one two, three. 1:28:22.120 --> 1:28:24.000 Four, five six seven. I see what you guys are 1:28:24.000 --> 1:28:27.400 trying to do. Seven four plus one plus one plus 1:28:27.479 --> 1:28:32.280 one is seven seven. Wait, I don't I still don't 1:28:32.280 --> 1:28:33.879 see the seven because you're colorblind. 1:28:34.160 --> 1:28:35.439 I'm not making fun of you. You told us. 1:28:35.560 --> 1:28:37.120 But the one in the middle, the Saints one, it 1:28:37.240 --> 1:28:39.120 looks like the other ones because it's Saints colors. But 1:28:39.200 --> 1:28:41.800 it's like I got that the four or then the 1:28:41.920 --> 1:28:45.439 Giants that's five. Then in the middle column, okay, that's 1:28:45.520 --> 1:28:45.920 the Saints. 1:28:46.000 --> 1:28:48.559 That's number six and the or bright orange broncos Bone 1:28:48.600 --> 1:28:50.519 next to seven This is great Part. 1:28:50.520 --> 1:28:53.320 Twenty twenty five. Can we keep in mind that one 1:28:53.400 --> 1:28:58.240 of the hosts color that was not tough. It's just 1:28:58.360 --> 1:28:59.439 a tough addition. 1:29:00.360 --> 1:29:02.000 So seven out of thirty two, I feel like that's 1:29:02.479 --> 1:29:05.840 that's probably around industry average, I would guess. 1:29:06.479 --> 1:29:08.280 I mean, I think some stuff, you know, I had 1:29:08.320 --> 1:29:10.800 also for the show, and it's not if you if 1:29:10.800 --> 1:29:11.960 I had to, like, you know, with a gun in 1:29:12.040 --> 1:29:14.320 my head, I had like eighteen trades in the first round, 1:29:14.360 --> 1:29:15.760 and a lot of that stuff just did not have I. 1:29:15.760 --> 1:29:17.559 Thought Mark was going to sneak in one with Buffalo 1:29:17.720 --> 1:29:19.519 with Mitchell in the last couple of picks. I thought 1:29:19.520 --> 1:29:20.479 I was going to sneak in one more. 1:29:20.560 --> 1:29:22.560 Yeah, but the Bills are like, we're We're determined to 1:29:22.600 --> 1:29:25.040 win six games. They ruined. They ruined my niece's night. 1:29:25.200 --> 1:29:27.559 She watched the draft for the first time, a new 1:29:27.680 --> 1:29:30.160 Buffalo fan or new to understand what's going on. 1:29:30.280 --> 1:29:32.040 Well, they're giving her a heads up of what to 1:29:32.080 --> 1:29:34.840 expect over the next eighty All Night got a video 1:29:36.120 --> 1:29:37.040 taped it Wednesday. 1:29:37.720 --> 1:29:42.200 It's pretty you know, relatively early on. There's some you know, 1:29:42.360 --> 1:29:44.880 last minute reporting that you probably would have changed them. 1:29:44.960 --> 1:29:46.519 It's kind of cheating the people that put out the 1:29:46.560 --> 1:29:48.559 mock draft after the last second report. 1:29:48.640 --> 1:29:50.080 Yeah, and I refuse to do that. I don't see 1:29:50.080 --> 1:29:51.120 a lot of And you. 1:29:51.160 --> 1:29:56.800 Know what, you absolutely destroyed my son, Walker Rosenthal. 1:29:56.880 --> 1:29:59.040 I mean, like on the tennis courts had children. 1:29:59.400 --> 1:29:59.720 I wasn't. 1:29:59.760 --> 1:30:00.800 That was my main goal. 1:30:00.880 --> 1:30:07.320 But he, you know, it kind of chicken scratches. I 1:30:07.360 --> 1:30:09.040 love that he's so committed to his mock draft. He 1:30:09.040 --> 1:30:10.880 would not let me take it in or even write 1:30:10.920 --> 1:30:12.839 on it, but I did take a picture and highlight 1:30:13.160 --> 1:30:14.599 he got two picks right. 1:30:14.760 --> 1:30:18.439 He got Caleb Williams and Marvin Harrison right, and that's it. Now. 1:30:18.479 --> 1:30:22.439 He made this two weeks ago, so that that was especial. Wait, 1:30:22.640 --> 1:30:24.559 he should have done a two point zero. He didn't. 1:30:24.800 --> 1:30:28.320 He didn't want to surprise. He loves this stuff. Well 1:30:28.360 --> 1:30:28.680 he was. 1:30:29.880 --> 1:30:33.560 He was doing mock draft simulators just on like websites 1:30:33.640 --> 1:30:35.160 over and over repeatedly. 1:30:35.240 --> 1:30:36.640 But that was his one. Not a lot of nine 1:30:36.680 --> 1:30:38.559 year olds are getting any of these rights. 1:30:38.600 --> 1:30:42.400 So maybe this I think you can and I'm sure 1:30:42.439 --> 1:30:44.640 you did let him know because he did disappoint you, 1:30:44.760 --> 1:30:49.160 I know, but that doing a final mock draft two 1:30:49.200 --> 1:30:51.639 weeks before is okay, way behind the eight ball. 1:30:51.760 --> 1:30:54.360 That's a good point when when your your competitor did 1:30:54.400 --> 1:30:56.040 it the day before the draft. 1:30:56.760 --> 1:30:59.360 I I admired tonight. He was taking notes and he 1:30:59.520 --> 1:31:02.080 was writing all the picks as they were happening. 1:31:01.720 --> 1:31:04.160 With He loves it, he is. I enjoyed it. A 1:31:04.280 --> 1:31:09.280 certified young super fit. That's what the NFL craves. They 1:31:09.280 --> 1:31:10.840 you are craving what he's offering. 1:31:12.200 --> 1:31:15.840 All right, we hope you craved what we had to 1:31:15.960 --> 1:31:19.719 offer on today's episode. We will be back on Saturday. 1:31:19.800 --> 1:31:23.800 So Friday, we're gonna let it all soak in round 1:31:23.880 --> 1:31:29.479 two and three, and then Saturday four, five, six, seven, 1:31:29.640 --> 1:31:33.120 we will be recording that afternoon here from Los Angeles 1:31:33.200 --> 1:31:36.559 and have something up for you shortly after the draft 1:31:36.640 --> 1:31:37.160 wraps up. 1:31:37.360 --> 1:31:39.840 And that's it. That's it. That's a good that's a 1:31:39.920 --> 1:31:43.439 good rundown of round one. I feel like we did. 1:31:43.600 --> 1:31:44.720 I agree we needed to do. 1:31:44.920 --> 1:31:48.240 Yeah, someone's got to take our guy Cooper to Jean 1:31:48.400 --> 1:31:49.280 whatever happened to him. 1:31:49.479 --> 1:31:52.680 He's going tomorrow Hill Tomorrow. He the call