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Speaker 1: Rid the first pick in the twenty twenty four NFL Draft.

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Speaker 1: The Chicago Bears select Haleb William quarterback Tayler Kilifornia Washington

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Speaker 1: Commander select Jayden Daniels quarterback LSU. The New England Patriots

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Speaker 1: select Drake May quarterback North Carolina. We'redney eighth pick in

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four NFL Draft. The LANTFL Can select

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Speaker 1: Michael Powell junior.

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Speaker 2: Well, there it is.

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Speaker 1: Who why The Minnesota Vikings select JJ McCarthy Michigan. The

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Speaker 1: Denver Broncos select Boo Knicks.

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Speaker 2: It is quarterback Oregon.

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Speaker 3: Six for twelve, six quarterbacks in the first dozen picks.

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Speaker 2: To quote Rambo, they're all gone, sir. Prior to tonight.

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Speaker 3: Offensive players to start the draft before we saw our

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Speaker 3: first defensive player taken. With the record and we have

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Speaker 3: doubled it fourteen. That record may never be broken. And

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Speaker 3: you'd have to say six quarterbacks in the first twelve

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Speaker 4: Woo from the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's around the NFL.

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Speaker 4: The twenty twenty four NFL Draft is underway and we

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Speaker 4: are through one round and tonight we are here to

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Speaker 4: recap all of the madness, and oh my goodness, was

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Speaker 4: it mid Dan Hans is here, Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 4: you heard it there the face Rich Eisen NFL network

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Speaker 4: coverage of the big day from Detroit, where there were

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Speaker 4: two hundred and seventy five thousand people there is that

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Speaker 4: a real number.

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Speaker 5: So crazy to believe that they had to stop letting

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Speaker 5: people in an hour before the.

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Speaker 4: Draft possible to seventy five anyway, that breaks the all

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Speaker 4: time Day one draft record. That's at yep. Mark here.

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Speaker 4: It was your era of pro wrestling, the old Pontiac Silverdome.

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Speaker 4: They packed ninety three k in for WrestleMania three when

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Speaker 4: Hogan body slammed Andre the Giant.

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Speaker 2: I do recall that actual event.

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Speaker 4: So Detroit goes big and they did it again, and yeah,

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Speaker 4: six quarterbacks go in the first twelve picks and draft record.

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Speaker 2: Seven wide receivers go in the first round.

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Speaker 4: The offensive lineman also a heralded group, wiped out in

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Speaker 4: the first round. So and Greg Rosenthal, as you heard

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Speaker 4: fourteen offensive players go off the board before the first

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Speaker 4: defensive players. So, I mean, we talked about these things,

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Speaker 4: and these the way it seemed to be shaping up,

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Speaker 4: but it never goes that extreme.

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Speaker 2: So this has been the draft of extremes so far.

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Speaker 5: I woke up this morning, I went and I was

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Speaker 5: so excited for this draft in a way, and I thought, like,

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Speaker 5: is this just because the Patriots at you know, have

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Speaker 5: the number three overall pick or it really does seem

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Speaker 5: like the most intriguing jets A lot of juice, like

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Speaker 5: a lot of juice, and then for it to deliver

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Speaker 5: like that yet another record twenty three offensive players in

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Speaker 5: the first and at least speaking for myself, I'm basic

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Speaker 5: when it comes to draft. I'm more interested in the

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Speaker 5: skill position players. Of course, offensive players includes all those

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Speaker 5: tackles coming off the board. But I kept getting flashback,

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Speaker 5: especially when bow Knicks got picked back to twenty eleven,

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Speaker 5: which to me was one of the most exciting drafts.

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Speaker 5: Two thousand and four was another one, and in twenty

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Speaker 5: eleven was the one where I believe five quarterbacks went

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Speaker 5: in the first round. Maybe it was four, and then

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Speaker 5: it was Kaepernick and Dalton and car early in the

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Speaker 5: second two and it was just like six quarterbacks very early.

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Speaker 5: This was like that except on mescalin or something. With

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Speaker 5: bo Knicks going twelve and it going that fast.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean to have six go and the Raiders,

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Speaker 6: for instance, not be a team that takes one of them.

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Speaker 6: It speaks the fact that a lot of teams had

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Speaker 6: deep quarterback needs and like, I like, it's there's risk

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Speaker 6: there for sure, But I would look at this like this,

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Speaker 6: the fourteen consecutive players that threw me like on offense

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Speaker 2: But nothing. I don't find the rest of it that surprising.

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Speaker 6: For like a month plus two months, we've been talking

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Speaker 6: about like huge amount of quarterbacks go, best wide receiver

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Speaker 6: class we've seen in ages and a great tackle class,

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Speaker 5: It's where they go, and it's the after shocks. And

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Speaker 5: in the place everyone thought defense was gonna go was Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: I know we're going to get.

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Speaker 5: To all the picks, but it is these little after

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Speaker 5: shocks that needs the little reports afterwards, and you mentioned it.

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Speaker 5: I think it was a perfect storm. All these teams

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Speaker 5: and Danna Jeremiah pointed out needed offense and a lot

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Speaker 5: That many team teams we're in on quarterbacks weight And

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Speaker 5: he didn't even get it.

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Speaker 2: Mark, Mark just say I did.

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Speaker 6: it's just information that was out there.

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Speaker 4: I didn't like talk directly. You said, you said it,

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Speaker 4: and then actually he dismissed it. Yes, he dismissed. I

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Speaker 4: don't say I said that, and Greg, you dismissed.

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Speaker 2: That's how the show works.

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Speaker 4: I said, second, d take your glory lap Mark, remember

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Speaker 4: oh land Zierline, love the guy. He hung up the

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Speaker 4: phone when you suggested Michael Pennox could go early in

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Speaker 4: the first round. I think we should start there. And

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Speaker 4: we're going to get to the top of the first

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Speaker 4: round of the very tippy top which went chalky but

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Speaker 4: still important for obvious reasons. But I think in all

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Speaker 4: my years here with this company, and uh, and that's

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Speaker 4: a while now, I've never been more confounded and stunned

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Speaker 4: a massive contract to a thirty six year old Kirk Cousins, finally,

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Speaker 4: once and for all addressing the quarterback position that has

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Speaker 4: and eventually retired last week. To take Michael Pennox junior

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Speaker 4: eighth overall is an absolute stunner, and it's a stunner

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Speaker 4: to obviously every everyone that yes, I agree Greg, everyone

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Speaker 4: want somebody to make sense of it. To me, is

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Speaker 4: there anyone in this room that could help me and

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Speaker 4: other people? Like many Falcons fans, I presume absolutely Kirk Cousins,

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Speaker 4: because we're already hearing reports that he was really stunned

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Speaker 5: Why I have my questions about Michael Pennix As a prospers,

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Speaker 5: I have been trying to lead the take your quarterbacks

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Speaker 5: as much as possible. You can't take quarterbacks too much,

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Speaker 5: too high, too many resources, always defending the Patriots when

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Speaker 5: they would take a second round pick on a backup

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Speaker 5: me because Penix didn't seem like that level of a prospect,

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Speaker 5: it's a two year contract.

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Speaker 5: I think that's it. That it's a two year contract.

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Speaker 5: Penix is being signed for a five year contract. And

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Speaker 5: they said afterwards, they being Raheem Morris, we won't be

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Speaker 5: picking this high with the guy that we have and

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Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins trying to pick up his guy. We don't

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Speaker 5: want to be picking up here anymore. They plan to

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Speaker 5: be a very good team starting right now, and they

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Speaker 5: want to get their quarterback of the future in the

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Speaker 5: building right now. And I don't think it's crazy. First

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Speaker 5: of all, Kirk Cousins is coming off a torn Achilles.

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Speaker 5: That's like a little under the radar.

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Speaker 4: Right, four years, one hundred and eighty millions, A two years,

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Speaker 4: one hundred guaranteed two year contract you had, it's all guaranteed,

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Speaker 4: A hundred million dollar guarantee to that man to be

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Speaker 5: So but those are it's all in the first two years.

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Speaker 5: They have ten million dollars in the third year, and

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Speaker 5: if he's great, then that's great. Then you have your

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Speaker 5: someone by. I don't think it's that crazy, especially when

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Speaker 5: half the picks bust in the top ten anyways, Like

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Speaker 5: people act like it's so crazy to like invest in

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Speaker 5: of the picks don't work.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you.

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Speaker 6: I do understand, like if you're the nuts, sure, maybe,

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Speaker 6: But and I get that there's a Falcons fan sitting

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Speaker 6: could have taken the best pass rusher. That's fine, and

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Speaker 6: that's that's not incorrect thinking in terms of how the

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Speaker 6: perfect guy to slow cook behind Kirk Cousins for a

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Speaker 6: this says a lot about Arthur Blank, who has been

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Speaker 6: the future.

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Speaker 2: People.

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Speaker 6: When you draft someone in the top ten, people want

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Speaker 6: someone who will start and affect games right away, and

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Speaker 6: I think that's where the disappointment could come from, especially

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Speaker 6: when you're going to track and see how some of

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Speaker 6: Kirk Cousins is at this point, and it is really

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Speaker 6: only a two year situation. And you can point to

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Speaker 6: I think Pennix is a good candidate to benefit from that.

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Speaker 4: Now let's point out those are good examples, but Patrick

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Speaker 4: Mahomes is arguably the greatest quarterback ever. Jordan Love coming

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Speaker 4: off obviously a big year, But in general, this is

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Speaker 4: not something This is not really how the league operates anymore.

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Speaker 4: When you take a quarterback, and especially if you take

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Speaker 4: him this high, he's expected to play, and that doesn't

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Speaker 4: The reason my thinging is if you really love this guy,

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Speaker 2: Like or sign Kirk Cousins. It wasn't that long ago.

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Speaker 6: I mean, but like, I think the thing is, the

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Speaker 6: off season happens in waves and in chapters. And yes,

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Speaker 6: you can say these two things shouldn't have happened to

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Speaker 6: the same team in the same offseason. But a year

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Speaker 2: So you head your bets on Cousins, Well, but you didn't.

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Speaker 6: Really the Cousins is a short term veteran solution at quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: Let me tell you that's also have a problem. It's

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Speaker 4: turning twenty four in two weeks. I think that's a

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Speaker 4: good point. So that is also so now like, unless

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Speaker 4: Cousins is a disaster, an injury riddle disaster, which is possible,

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Speaker 4: he's not even touching the field now as he's edging

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Speaker 4: It doesn't make sense to me. And here's the thing.

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Speaker 4: When you do invest we can talk about all this thing, like,

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Speaker 4: it's not a long term signing, but it was a

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Speaker 4: major signing for this organization.

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Speaker 2: And when you invest that.

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Speaker 5: No, I think this could move fascinated move back, Well,

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Speaker 5: I don't think they could base boy he's not there.

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Speaker 4: You still have Kirk Cousins in the building, and this

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Speaker 4: make it work. Out it was overly aggressive, and I

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Speaker 2: I don't think they know what they're doing Ultimately.

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Speaker 5: Well, I disagree everyone's saying, oh, this is a ready

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Speaker 5: I want to applaud teams that value the quarterback position correctly.

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Speaker 5: The reason they're making all this money is because it's

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Speaker 5: He's not going to be a great player at thirty eight.

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Speaker 5: they were looking at that. It does make you wonder

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Speaker 2: It's a different situation.

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Speaker 4: Greg Aaron Rodgers is a franchise legend that was there

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Speaker 5: The point is, though I don't think it's crazy, and

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Speaker 5: just with Penix as a prospect. Seems very divisive, not

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Speaker 5: And I totally see that when you watch him, like

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Speaker 5: Like you're thinking about a guy that's gonna try to

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Speaker 5: I just hope Pennix is a good enough player to

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Speaker 4: You also need him to hit the ground running like

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Speaker 2: That has to be a polished player when he gets

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Speaker 5: Love was as raw as it gets and he looked

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, ready for multiple you need him.

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Speaker 4: That's hard to do what the Packers have done, and

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Speaker 4: And if he's not, if it takes him a couple

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Speaker 6: And it's also like you know, sixty five percent of

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's like, I don't have a problem with this,

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Speaker 6: Totally agitated Troy Aikman, who is his guy, Roddy Johnson's guy.

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Speaker 6: I'm just saying, that's another thing you could do at

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Speaker 6: Move Kirk Cousins or move Kirk Cousins. But there's one

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Speaker 6: other thing about this version of the Falcons that I

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Speaker 2: There's no leaks inside building. I mean, we knew there

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Speaker 6: They liked Penix a lot, we've known that, but no

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Speaker 5: Give credit to him, he didn't say it was definitely happening,

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Speaker 5: be surprised if Penix goes to the Falcons, so right

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Speaker 5: you know, he got a call like while the Falcons

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Speaker 5: DJ and then also the athletics that I never seen it,

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Speaker 5: you know, kind of mentioned like the agent. Yeah, it

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Speaker 5: so I don't know if he's gonna be He's not

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Speaker 5: like when they go to OTA is in a couple weeks,

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Speaker 4: Be his moment for the you know, the next couple

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Speaker 5: Well, it's a little awkward because you you did mention

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Speaker 5: like if he got to be ready. The funny thing

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Speaker 2: But he's not ready for him. But what I'm saying

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Speaker 6: Who's crying for Taylor Heinecke Greg Taylor Heineke like who

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Speaker 6: you know, take the next bus next, gray hump, bustle.

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Speaker 2: We got to move on.

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Speaker 6: But you two are not going to You're never going

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Speaker 6: to agree Dan, You're not going to agree with Greg,

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Speaker 5: But I just want to point out that no one's

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Speaker 2: It's like the human body, And.

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Speaker 4: I would say the in recent years players that have

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Speaker 2: Now he could have a setback or whatever.

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Speaker 6: And well they didn't get that money thinking he's not

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying maybe.

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Speaker 4: There's something we don't know about Cousins, and maybe he

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Speaker 4: But my last point is I don't think Cousins obviously

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Speaker 4: He's happy he's a first round pick, but he went

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Speaker 2: That's not great either.

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Speaker 4: And if you'd see him when he picks up the phone,

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Speaker 6: Sure from one other angle though, from like a more

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Speaker 2: He's getting top eight. No, that's great, So that's great.

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Speaker 6: And honestly, like if he does a Jordan love thing

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Speaker 5: Right, I am a little worried about him, although Jordan

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Speaker 4: In nineteen forty two. I would imagine he, you know,

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Speaker 2: So wild all right. So that's like the big crazy

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Speaker 4: into things that I can't even wrap my head around

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Speaker 2: I don't think they want you to use the word absurd,

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Speaker 4: It's it's made for television, like the halftime show for

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Speaker 4: the Super Bowl. Here's Caleb Williams and check this out

438
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Speaker 4: on YouTube if you haven't seen it. Speed walking down

439
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 4: and then letting out a big old Rick flair.

440
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 3: He's about to put a Bear's hat on and introduce

441
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 3: himself to the world and head to Michigan Avenue.

442
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 2: He might not have ran aup Fort in Indy, but

443
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 2: he's running one here. I mean, he is flying up there.

444
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 2: He's excited to get this journey started.

445
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 4: He really sold me both the way he came out there,

446
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,440
Speaker 4: the way he spoke in his interviews.

447
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,680
Speaker 2: Just seems like a dude. Yeah.

448
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 5: He also had that how he finished his interview with

449
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 5: Kaylee Hartong making her NFL Network debut the Bears.

450
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,640
Speaker 2: That was how he finished that. Yeah. I loved that.

451
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 5: And we don't have to spend a ton of time,

452
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 5: I know, but I man, we just haven't talked that

453
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 5: much about Caleb Williams and when we say like he

454
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 5: can make every throw, like I mean like every throw.

455
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 5: And I heard Ollie Connelly talk about it on his

456
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 5: podcast and I thought it was really smart the way

457
00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 5: he put it that, like one drive he can kind

458
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 5: of look like Mahomes and then the next drive he

459
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,679
Speaker 5: can kind of look like Manning. And then you watch

460
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,199
Speaker 5: how he navigates in the pocket and that reminds you

461
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,879
Speaker 5: of the very best people in terms of inside the pocket.

462
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,159
Speaker 5: And he has the experience with the RPO and he

463
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 5: has the quick release. He just feels like he has

464
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 5: every single club in the bag and he kind of

465
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 5: brings out different things based on what he needs. And

466
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Speaker 5: it's just I'm I am very excited to watch me

467
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 5: some caleable and he's just so accurate. He's the most

468
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 5: accurate guy in the last year. So it's like no

469
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 5: prospect is perfect or whatever, but I am so excited

470
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 5: to watch this dude. It's gonna be a value add

471
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 5: for the league. I think we saw that with his personality,

472
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 5: and I'm excited that I get to watch him with

473
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 5: Roma Doonzay.

474
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Speaker 6: Well and he's you know, it's what an incredible introduction

475
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,919
Speaker 6: from an NFC North standpoint. He's coming out there and

476
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 6: he's booed lustily by Lions fans who have packed the place.

477
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 6: He doesn't seem to care at all, and it's like

478
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 6: you have to go back to nineteen forty seven and

479
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,679
Speaker 6: Bob Fenimore, the Blonde Bomber, the last time that the

480
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 6: Bears picked a quarterback first.

481
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 2: Overall that's crazy.

482
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Speaker 6: That's there's no team coming close to that stuff, I

483
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 6: would imagine, and I do think it matters that on

484
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,360
Speaker 6: USC there's a lot of like ballyhooed USC stuff. When

485
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 6: they brought in the new coach, it's like they were

486
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 6: one hundred and twenty third in scoring defense. So he

487
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 6: was under the gun to fire the ball down field

488
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 6: over and over. I think as a deep passer, he's

489
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 6: incredible that Bears haven't had someone like this in eons.

490
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 6: It's like they feel like outside Fields had that one

491
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 6: nice season, but it's like this is a team that

492
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 6: kind of even when they went to the Super Bowl

493
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 6: against the Colts, it's like always minus the star quarterback.

494
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 4: And I think it's a completely new organization at this

495
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 4: point because and I think, you know, I was at

496
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 4: the end of last season. I still think Justin Fields

497
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 4: has a chance to have a really good career, and

498
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 4: we'll see what happens in Pittsburgh or wherever he ends

499
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 4: up being potentially as a long term solution for somebody.

500
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 4: But when you see a player like this and you

501
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 4: start to really dig in on his background and you

502
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 4: see the way he came out there, it's like, Okay,

503
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 4: this guy is someone that you're you hit the reset

504
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 4: with him, and then you pair him, like we said,

505
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 4: with the number nine pick after the Falcons stun the

506
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 4: world and take a quarterback. That leaves this great prospect

507
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 4: Roma Dunza, who some people say, you know, Marvin Harrison

508
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 4: who goes forth to the Cardinals. We'll get you in

509
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 4: a second. He was the kind of clear cut number

510
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 4: one guy. But people think that a Dunsee could be

511
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 4: an absolute superstar. And now you got DJ Moore across

512
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 4: from him, and you have what Bryce Young for example,

513
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 4: did not have last year, which is a real supporting

514
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 4: cast around him. So the Bears suddenly go from one

515
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 4: of the most boring teams to watch over the last

516
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 4: ten years or so, they are going to be kind

517
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 4: of musty TV, at least in the beginning of the season.

518
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 6: It happened quickly, and it's like the only thing I

519
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 6: think they've got to focus on more offensive line help.

520
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 6: They had the highest pressure rate in the league last year,

521
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,880
Speaker 6: so it's like that's one We saw fields getting destroyed

522
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 6: by that over and over and it's like, that's not

523
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 6: a wonderful thing for Caleb Williams. But they have done

524
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 6: a lot in two off seasons, and that trade last

525
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 6: offseason with the Panthers looks better and better and better

526
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 6: by the minute.

527
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 5: Right, they got very fortunate that the Panthers ended up

528
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 5: being the worst team in the league like that. That

529
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 5: They probably didn't think the Panthers were going to be good.

530
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 5: So they were taking a shot and you're rolling.

531
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 2: They nailed it. They're holding everything about it. You're hoping

532
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 2: for the best.

533
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 5: But they got, like, you know, one of the best

534
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 5: quarterback prospects we've seen in a long time. And now

535
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 5: Keenan Allen can play inside, by the way too, It's like,

536
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 5: of course the Dunes then can move inside some pool

537
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 5: and keen Allen can play outside the sid of course

538
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 5: they're going to be flexible, but Alan is now at

539
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 5: his best inside.

540
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 2: You have come met there. DeAndre Swift was a nice

541
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 2: pick up.

542
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 5: They absolutely are going to see that over under, which

543
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 5: was an eight and a half. I believe, like, I mean,

544
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 5: that's just gonna with the Dunes. I just feel like

545
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 5: that's going to keep.

546
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 2: That division is has turned semi psychotic, all right. The Commanders,

547
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 2: they do indeed take Jayden Daniels.

548
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 4: Don't believe anything about them moving out of that pick,

549
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 4: they take Daniels, so he is the future for Washington

550
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 4: and then Greg.

551
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 2: We could talk about both these players.

552
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 4: But Drake May then goes to the Patriots, who apparently

553
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 4: there was a report out there.

554
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 2: It is an interesting report. Do you see this report?

555
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 4: It was the Patriots and Vikings reached out to the

556
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 4: Chargers about Justin Herbert.

557
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: It cannot I loved, I loved. Yeah, it cannot hurt.

558
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 4: This is from Adam Schefter, by the way, to kick

559
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 4: the tires on that one. And just because Jim Harbaugh nuts,

560
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 4: so you just like kick the tires, call the crazy

561
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 4: guy and.

562
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 2: Just see what he's what's going on with him?

563
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 4: And and they were rebuffed obviously, and then they go

564
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 4: back and they say, Okay, we're cool with this, dude.

565
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 2: What do you think about this? Dude? You how excited

566
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 2: are you? I am? Greg?

567
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 5: I am ay ten. This is what I was hoping for.

568
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 5: I love this Patriots, that Drake maywould fall to them.

569
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 5: I didn't think it was gonna happen on Christmas Eve

570
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 5: when they beat the Broncos in that weird game, and

571
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 5: I was enjoying the game. You know, it's a lonely

572
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 5: Christmas for me, and it's like the Patriots brought a

573
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 5: little joy. I was like, it's worth it, but they're

574
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 5: not gonna get Drake me now. And for Jade Daniels

575
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 5: to become this consensus number two pick, and going into today,

576
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 5: I was just worried they were gonna get too cute

577
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 5: and trade down. It's like, when are you gonna have

578
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 5: a legit, superstar potential quarterback sitting there?

579
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 2: Hopefully you're not drafting that high.

580
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 5: And when I watch him, he is just box office

581
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 5: and he is an incredible runner. It wouldn't surprise me

582
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 5: of all these guys who can all run well, if

583
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 5: he has the most rushing value, if he's kind of

584
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 5: a Jalen Hurts type of player early in his career,

585
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 5: you can build a decent amount of the offense about

586
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 5: his running and his deep passing, and that, to me

587
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 5: is just an exciting offense. I'm glad it sounded like

588
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 5: they never even considered it. You could tell Gared Mayo

589
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 5: is totally different because he basically told the Patriots draft

590
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 5: party an hour and a half before the draft, we're

591
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 5: not trading the pick. We're just gonna you know, don't

592
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 5: don't worry we're gonna make our pick early and.

593
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 2: You're gonna like it. He's a great player.

594
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 5: And it's like, Okay, I guess they're taking Drake May.

595
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 5: They already were saying like that, they forget about the trade.

596
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 5: We're not thinking about it.

597
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 2: He's fascinating.

598
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 6: He is someone that I think is going to be

599
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 6: an immediate like fan favorite for his physical nature, play,

600
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 6: what he can do on the ground. I mean, there

601
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 6: is some there has been concern about like the little

602
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 6: things that he's got to grow at and some of

603
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 6: his like accuracy on passes that like he does these

604
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 6: incredible things, but then he's like, wait a minute, what

605
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 6: happened right there. It's almost like there is an aversion

606
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 6: of like you want to see the way that Josh

607
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 6: Allen grew in certain little ways when people would, you know,

608
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 6: kind of were ready to throw Josh Allen out the window,

609
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 6: like he improved, but he improved as a pro and

610
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 6: that's but that's unusual, that's atypical, and so Drake May

611
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 6: needs to do this have a similar growth pattern for

612
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 6: certain elements of his game.

613
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 2: But it's like this is like a whole new day

614
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 2: for the PAVI.

615
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 5: I don't see him as raw though as out like.

616
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 5: I don't think he's as raw as everyone said. I

617
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 5: think he did a lot of next level stuff. He

618
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 5: was just in a brutal situation. He's about to be again.

619
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 5: They they kind of have talked about already that that

620
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 5: Jacoby Brissett, I have a feeling will be the weak

621
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 5: one starter. We'll see it probably won't last that long.

622
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 5: And it was funny you mentioned Josh Allen. I know

623
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 5: you want to go Dan, but Bill Belichick was on

624
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 5: McAfee and uh, he was quoted saying Drake compares himself

625
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 5: a lot to Josh Allen. He's been doing that for

626
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 5: quite a while. I haven't seen that a lot of

627
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 5: people compare them. Did he Uh, we'll see about that.

628
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 5: And then he kind of negged He kind of negged

629
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 5: Drake may a little bit, but to be fair, he

630
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 5: kind of neagged all the top five picks. That's when

631
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 5: I watched the Belichick portion of the McAfee. He it

632
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 5: was very different than the portion of the telecast where

633
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 5: the audio was working for that the pre gate the

634
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 5: pre you know, they had some snaffoos on YouTube and whatnot.

635
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 2: But uh so I've heard he he.

636
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 5: Was trying to really calm everyone down really about all

637
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 5: the picks and pointing out the negatives, but especially May.

638
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 4: He seemed to that's a fresh raw. Yeah, I thought

639
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 4: the uh what did it?

640
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 2: Was he freaking out about Panix? Like ever notes?

641
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 5: I left. I left the that telecast around pick five.

642
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 5: Much for me, I was the company man. I was

643
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 5: trying to watch both this is too hard, Okay.

644
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 4: I was just curious if anyone else picked up on

645
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 4: the NFL network. Uh, the way they were talking about

646
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 4: Drake May is if it was almost a foregone conclusion

647
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 4: that he wouldn't start, and that that they were going

648
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 4: to bring him along slowly. And that's to what you're

649
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 4: saying that I guess he needs polished in the eyes

650
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 4: of some But.

651
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 6: I just that doesn't really happen, like, well, that's like

652
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 6: that means week three or week four.

653
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 4: But Jacoby said, but that's not the way it was

654
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 4: being discussed. It wasn't like he's going to start by

655
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 4: October first. It kind of was being talked about like

656
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 4: this going to bed.

657
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 6: Saying though, like that's this this that's cool, until like

658
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 6: they're zer and two right, I.

659
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 4: Mean mac, No, but wait a second, we're not going

660
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 4: back down the store. Michael Pennox isn't going in the

661
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 4: lineup if Kark cousins.

662
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 6: I know, but I'm saying to your point that Penix

663
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 6: is away, to your argument that it's you're not getting

664
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 6: someone who's going to help you right away like Drake May,

665
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 6: is completely different if they're in. If they're right there water,

666
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 6: Drake May is going to be in the lineup by

667
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 6: halftime a week one, potentially. I don't want to hear

668
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 6: this sitting for a year as a starter behind Jacobys.

669
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I don't what I mean think Mac Jones

670
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 5: played a lot as a rookie, play played pretty well,

671
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 5: Like I don't.

672
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 2: It is rookie.

673
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 5: If they're if they're good enough coaching staff like he

674
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 5: will be playing. There's there's no reason to be.

675
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 4: That that pay it no mind what people say about

676
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 4: rookies waiting on the bench, and almost all cases they

677
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 4: end up playing very quickly. Now Marvin Harrison Junior yes

678
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 4: goes to the Cardinals.

679
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 2: Uh.

680
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 4: For overall, a lot of discussion about them moving back

681
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 4: and letting a QB needy team trade up. They obviously

682
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 4: did not have either the interest to make that move

683
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 4: or they didn't get an offer that they liked, so

684
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 4: they sit home, and this is something I thought they

685
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 4: should have done all along.

686
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 2: I thought I thought it was the right move.

687
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 4: You get yourself a potential superstar wide receiver pairing with

688
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 4: Kyler Murray, who, despite being under contract for big money,

689
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 4: is coming back for his first full season after ACL

690
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 4: and you just got to like find out if this

691
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 4: is truly gonna work. Now you give him an absolute

692
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 4: stud to play with.

693
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 6: There is value if they were if they were you know,

694
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 6: you know, treated to a monster deal by the Vikings

695
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,719
Speaker 6: to do what they talked about being very open to doing.

696
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 6: But I think if you're a Cardinals fan who's suffered

697
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 6: through many rough seasons, this is basically saying we've gotten

698
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 6: our next version of Larry Fitzgerald. And he's not exactly

699
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 6: explosive as like a Molik Neighbors. He's different, but he

700
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 6: does like everything so well that it's a rare player,

701
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 6: where like I think it's a little unfair to him,

702
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 6: but it's like, oh, it's a disappointment if he isn't

703
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 6: a Hall of Fame wide receiver, like if he'd made

704
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 6: two Pro Bowls and was a top ten guy. It's

705
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 6: like that's a disappointment, Like the expectations are through the roof,

706
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 6: and I think, for once, if you're the Cardinals, this

707
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 6: was a need that matches up with arguably the best

708
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 6: player in the draft.

709
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: I have no problem with this. I love it.

710
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 5: I love not getting cute. I don't think they had

711
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 5: the option. I don't think they were offered. I mean

712
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 5: the McCarthy was never in the class with May and Daniels.

713
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 5: I think teams were just seeing which quarterback for sure

714
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 5: was going to shake out to three. Reporting on NFL

715
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 5: Network was that the Giants and the Vikings both tried

716
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 5: to trade up with the Patriots, and they even made

717
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 5: a last ditch effort of like raising their offer to

718
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 5: trade up with the Patriots, and it's it's safe to

719
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 5: assume that's for Drake May. Patriots didn't want to do it.

720
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 5: They stayed and picked and once he wasn't available, the

721
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 5: Vikings were fine just letting McCarthy fall down the board.

722
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 5: Obviously they end up getting him, and the Giants were

723
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 5: never going to take him in the first place.

724
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 4: Apparently right, It tells you how much the Patriots think

725
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 4: of Drake May's potential here that they would that could

726
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 4: have been a real boon for them to get additional

727
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 4: picks at a time where they really need to stock

728
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 4: that roster.

729
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,479
Speaker 2: But they love the QB. You take the QB. This

730
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 2: is also where my mock draft went into a fiery

731
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 2: dumpster or began to.

732
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 4: And what we're gonna hit that at the end of

733
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 4: the show. But yeah, it's a tough thing to do.

734
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 4: It's not easy business. Mark you know that. Don't beat

735
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 4: yourself up. Joe Alt goes number five to the Chargers,

736
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 4: so a little bit, I would say it was a surprise.

737
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 4: A lot of people haven't pegged for seven to the Titans.

738
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 2: You know.

739
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 4: The Titans were not happy with this because well we

740
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 4: don't know it, but they take J. C. Latham from Alabama,

741
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 4: also a tackle, but you would think they wanted to

742
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 4: have the choice of the two or Alt outright, So

743
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 4: you have those two linemen go sandwiched around. Yes, the

744
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 4: New York Giants. So the Giants. If Drake may or

745
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 4: Jaden Daniels were on the board, that's probably the new

746
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 4: quarterback of the New York Giants. But once those three

747
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 4: players went off, they stayed home and they took Malik Neighbors. Obviously,

748
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 4: Giants fans friends back East that some of them were like,

749
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 4: I wish they took roma Dunza. He's a guy that's

750
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 4: gotten a little bit more buzz leading up.

751
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: To the draft.

752
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 4: However, you talk to people, this guy has every opportunity

753
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 4: here to become a superstar as well, if put in

754
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 4: the right situation.

755
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, and the Giants aren't the right situation, not now,

756
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 5: I mean they haven't been.

757
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 2: Maybe they can become that.

758
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 5: He's another receiver who probably works his best over the

759
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 5: middle of the field, which they It feels like that's

760
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 5: all they've got is all these different guys, and yet

761
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 5: he's like three tiers above.

762
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 2: He's so explosive.

763
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 5: I think there were probably more teams that had him

764
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 5: over Harrison than even maybe there were teams that had

765
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 5: a Dunze over over Neighbors. I think people just fell

766
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 5: in love with his explosiveness. And I did like what

767
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 5: Harbaugh said about all He's like, people are going to say, like,

768
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 5: what what about your weapons?

769
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 2: Where are your weapons?

770
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 5: And he said, uh, with the Chargers, like we're gonna

771
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 5: look at the offensive line as weapons.

772
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have football remembers.

773
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 4: Thinking about the five fingers, make a fist with the

774
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 4: offensive line. I mean he kind of let it be

775
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 4: known from the very start. I love to pick for them.

776
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 6: They have a Sean Slater too, but they you know,

777
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 6: Trey Pipkins is not going to be starting at that

778
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 6: point at that position. Joe Alt like the one thing's like,

779
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 6: you know a lot of these guys weren't at the draft,

780
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 6: but they cut to his house.

781
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 2: You know, he's almost like like six or eight. He

782
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 2: stood up and was like two feet taller than anyone

783
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 2: else in the household. Like there was like the thirty

784
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 2: people around him. You love it. You love big humans.

785
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 6: Well, I think actually, like to me, it is it

786
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 6: was like some of these teams did not do what

787
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 6: we expected, but for the Chargers, who I thought were

788
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 6: a trade down to go get Joe allt just like

789
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 6: that's a hardball player, that's a Greg Roman type player,

790
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 6: and he dominates in the run game.

791
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 2: He's massive, and it's exactly the set up twenty six.

792
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,240
Speaker 2: They wont like seven seven.

793
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 5: So there are almost no comps like to his height

794
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 5: and size. Jonathan Ogden is one of them and was

795
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 5: one of the greatest players of all time at his position.

796
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 5: That there's a there's a few other here and there,

797
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 5: but to be that athletic at at six ' nine.

798
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 5: It's just like we're seeing this across all sports, like

799
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 5: humans are testing the bounds of like what tall, how

800
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 5: athletic tall people essentially can be. You see in tennis,

801
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 5: you see in basketball. It's just like preposterous, how athletic now,

802
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 5: like a six to nine tackle could be.

803
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: Not horse racing, don't see not in horse race.

804
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 4: No, In fact, you see a lot of bad things

805
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 4: happening in horse racing when you push the the animal

806
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 4: too far. And in baseball, the game for pictures right now,

807
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 4: there's like an epidemic right now with pictures suffering arm

808
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 4: injuries because things like spin rate and velocity keeps going

809
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 4: up up up, and they're dealing now the sport with

810
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 4: like how do we rein this in because the human

811
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 4: body can't take it? You know, be careful with these

812
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 4: big men, tell let them get too big. We're mere humans,

813
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 4: that's all.

814
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 2: We're mortal. Tell it to Randy Johnson, like tell it

815
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 2: to the bird that he hit.

816
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 5: Tell it to the we can tell it to the

817
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 5: like the thirty pound linebacker that's trying to get around

818
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 5: this now, And.

819
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 6: That sounds like the end of baseball. By the way,

820
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 6: we're creeping towards the end of the sport.

821
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 2: It does. I mean, there are people like you who

822
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,959
Speaker 2: want baseball to die. That's not true. It never will.

823
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 6: There's nothing nicer to do than go to a baseball

824
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 6: game out in the in this on a summer day.

825
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 6: But you're saying that literally the most important position is losing.

826
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 6: The human body can't keep up with the sport. That's finally.

827
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 2: That's all.

828
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 4: Well, but I'm I'm educating you on on there.

829
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 2: It's a completely different sport.

830
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 6: I know that football it is kind of a football

831
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 6: was completely different than basketball.

832
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 5: Of a Titans draft, it's just like you've mentioned, it's

833
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 5: not as exciting. I know, we'll get to the Jets,

834
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,919
Speaker 5: like when you take the tack, but at LISTA was like, oh,

835
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 5: this is we got the guy. This is a tackle

836
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 5: that would have gone maybe top three some years, like,

837
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 5: it's certainly a better prospect. I will say that Local

838
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 5: or Eric Fisher were like when they were coming out.

839
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,240
Speaker 2: I think Joe al was like an outlier.

840
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 4: He's the one offensive lineman where you would come out

841
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 4: of the draft like, yeah, we got the six nine beasts, right,

842
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 4: But instead. Jac Lathan, by the way, could end up

843
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 4: being way better than Joel, but it doesn't in right

844
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 4: now where we stand, it doesn't seem as fun or exciting.

845
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 4: All right, let's finish off the top ten and then

846
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 4: we're going to take a break. So we mentioned JJ

847
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 4: McCarthy the last quarterback standing, and there are the Vikings

848
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 4: and the Cardinals were hoping that maybe the Vikings would

849
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 4: pick up in a panic and try to do it

850
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 4: trade there perhaps, but they don't. The Vikings hang back,

851
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 4: the hang back and McCarthy stays on the board. Even

852
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 4: when the number the team at number eight stuns the

853
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 4: world with a quarterback pick, it's not JJ McCarthy. So

854
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 4: what do the Vikings do? They pick up the phone

855
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 4: at eleven, they call up the Jets, or the Jets

856
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 4: call the Vikings.

857
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: I thought, Daniel Jeremiah have to give him a little pop.

858
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 4: The expert expertly foreshadowed this like minutes ahead of time

859
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 4: that the Jets. He's been in a situation where you

860
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 4: just you just pick up the phone if you're the Jets,

861
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 4: perhaps and say, hey, you want to move up one

862
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 4: ahead of us before somebody else jumps ahead of you.

863
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 4: And they ended up the Jets trade out of the pick,

864
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 4: they gain a little bit of draft capital, move back

865
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 4: one spot, and yes, JJ McCarthy goes to the Minnesota Vikings.

866
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 2: There is their quarterback of the future.

867
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 6: I will say I thought that, like QUESI the GM

868
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 6: for the Vikings, like you've got to kind of if

869
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 6: you're a Vikings fan, this was like a nice hand

870
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 6: of cards, like you did a nice job here, because

871
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 6: they could have they were the candidate to ship both

872
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 6: their first round picks to get JJ. It wasn't to

873
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 6: get someone else. It was in theory like all to

874
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 6: get JJ McCarthy as the fourth quarterback.

875
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 5: They tried to, but it was for Drake May but

876
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 5: for sure, but I'm saying value McCarthy like that.

877
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 6: But even in the days leading up, it was like

878
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 6: the thought was they would have been okay with McCarthy

879
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 6: and they would have moved and it would have taken

880
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 6: a lot. You gave up a little bit, but you

881
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 6: kind of got your guy or the guy that was

882
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 6: most likely to fall to you. Where if you moved

883
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 6: up to number four here, and it's like it's good

884
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 6: for the Jets, but it was good for the Vikings.

885
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,280
Speaker 6: And I kind of like the fit with Kevin O'Connell.

886
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 6: I think at quarterback's in a good place there. You've

887
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 6: got wide receivers, you've got a good tight end, like

888
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 6: your offense is kind of ready to go, and I

889
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 6: think what happens to McCarthy is one of the more

890
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 6: interesting subplots to next season. It's not great for Sam Darnold,

891
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 6: but I think there was always a plan to get

892
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 6: a different quarterbacks once then knew that too.

893
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 4: Once they traded for that second first round pick, the

894
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 4: writing was on the wall, Yeah, now just become again.

895
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 4: There will be and they'll play their cards close to

896
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 4: the vest, like who's going to start at the beginning

897
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 4: of the season. But JJ McCarthy is the quote unquote

898
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 4: proven winner. He's a guy that's won at every level

899
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 4: he's played at. I think they're gonna view him as

900
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 4: a guy that's going to be ready physically and emotionally

901
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 4: to take that gig, and they're gonna hope he's gonna

902
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 4: run with it. I was a little spooked, like if

903
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 4: I'm even though they didn't they were smart the way

904
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 4: they played, they didn't panic, and I thought if they

905
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 4: wanted a quarterback and they couldn't get those top three

906
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 4: more or less, staying home or as close as you

907
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 4: can to staying home was the right play. But then

908
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 4: you know, you see like people that been studying this

909
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 4: player for months and months and years saying he's like

910
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 4: maybe like an Alex Smith, Like oh okay, all right,

911
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 4: well he had some good years, but I mean, is

912
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 4: that what you want out of your like number I

913
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 4: guess I don't know, is Alex Smith? Is that a

914
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 4: ceiling that's acceptable for the pick? I don't know if

915
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 4: that's what his ceiling is.

916
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 5: He's been sometimes the Cousins, like of the next gen Cousins,

917
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 5: it's kind of like you could deal with that, that's right.

918
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 5: And it's kind of like when you're comparing these guys

919
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 5: pennex to Flacco is another one from DJ where it's

920
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 5: like next gen Flaco, next gen Cousins, because like every

921
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 5: quarterback now is extremely athletic compared to those guys. It's

922
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 5: fun like JJ McCarthy's almost talked about as like his

923
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 5: athleticism is born.

924
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 2: He he tested off the charts for some of this stuff.

925
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 5: Like his straight he's not like gonna make you miss,

926
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 5: but his straight line speed is three code like that

927
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 5: sort of like he has a big arm, and he's

928
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 5: an athlete, even if that's not the main part of

929
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 5: his game.

930
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: But he did seem to be the guy that.

931
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 5: The Sean McVay tree, of which O'Connell is one, liked

932
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:41,919
Speaker 5: the best, because he's like the one to two to three,

933
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 5: like maybe not so much Cousins or Alex Smith, but

934
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 5: like a better brock Purty, which obviously you would take

935
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 5: it if he actually can deliver on that. I I

936
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 5: wonder if the Broncos wanted JJ McCarthy, you know, because

937
00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 5: that's the reason you trade.

938
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 2: Up, well, I think more than probably more than Bonnicks.

939
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 2: If we could truth here on them, right, we would

940
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 2: hold that thought out, hold that thought.

941
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 4: Let's take a break, and when we get back, we

942
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,439
Speaker 4: check in on the middle of the first round, stay

943
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 4: right there, all.

944
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 2: Right, Welcome back. So the Jets move back one spot

945
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 2: and brock Howers is there.

946
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 4: I think they really you'll never know, but I think

947
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,439
Speaker 4: they were hoping Roma Dunze was there, and I think

948
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 4: they maybe would have pulled the trigger there, but maybe

949
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 4: maybe they always were going to take the best offensive

950
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 4: lineman available at that point, and it was oluh.

951
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 2: Fashion, Yeah, you got first try Ol fashion from Penn State.

952
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 4: So, like I said, like I said on our last show,

953
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 4: when your your team takes an offensive lineman, it's never

954
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 4: overly exciting.

955
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 2: However, they have a left and a right tackle.

956
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 4: Even as high the as the potential is with Tyron Smith,

957
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 4: now they're left tackle two thirty three year olds Morgan Moses.

958
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 2: On the other side.

959
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 4: Smith's injury issues are well documented. If either of those

960
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 4: guys go down, or both those guys go down, all

961
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 4: of a sudden, you have a forty year old Aaron

962
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 4: Rodgers coming off an Achilles injury, and you're right back

963
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 4: where it feels like you've been.

964
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 2: So it makes sense. It's a sensible pick.

965
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 4: It's if brock Bauers, who then goes two picks later

966
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 4: to the Raiders, turns into George Kittle, like his competence

967
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 4: out there and Fashiono, it becomes yet another offensive lineman

968
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 4: who kind of just kicks around the league and it

969
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 4: doesn't quite take. If he becomes Makai Becton, you gotta

970
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 4: you have to live with it. But it makes sense.

971
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 4: It's a logical pick for the job.

972
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 6: That's the whole like psychological dynamic of the draft, is

973
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 6: you no matter what kind of fan you are or

974
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 6: even analyst, if you like a team, you're kind of

975
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 6: just dreaming of the showy, sexy weapons type guy, and like,

976
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 6: you don't really value offensive lineman out of the gate.

977
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 2: But this guy's been compared to Laramie Tunzel.

978
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 6: Jason Zumwalt when he announced this pick in the mock draft,

979
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 6: like was salivating over these six to six frame, three

980
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 6: hundred and seventeen pounds, And you know what's not exciting

981
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 6: is having your quarterback swarm by bees four plays into

982
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 6: the season and the season is destroyed. So I like

983
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 6: the idea of protecting Aaron Rodgers not having the whole

984
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 6: thing crumble minutes into campaign two.

985
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 5: Right, this is I didn't like when I was positioned

986
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 5: as like, well, do you take a pick for now

987
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 5: with the Jets with a pass catcher or do you

988
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 5: take a pick for the future of the tackle. It's like, no,

989
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 5: this is for now, Like like, hopefully he's not starting

990
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 5: Week one, but it would be a shock if he

991
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 5: wasn't needed to start this season.

992
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 2: And I really liked him. I think he was.

993
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 5: He was probably the consensus tackle too, certainly overlaith them

994
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 5: in that like we've seen with tackles that it's a

995
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 5: really developmental position, maybe even more than quarterback where it

996
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 5: takes me one year, two years, it takes a while.

997
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 5: And fashion who kind of combine maybe better than the others,

998
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 5: a guy that could play sooner than later and had

999
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 5: some upside behind probably only all and he's definitely a

1000
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 5: guy that's like better in pass pro than run blocking.

1001
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 5: It's like, sign me up for those guys. Those are

1002
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 5: like kind of the tackles I want the guys that.

1003
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, DJ said he would have been a top five

1004
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 6: pick a year ago, so I mean, like, I think

1005
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 6: this is just one of these drafts where he's getting

1006
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 6: pushed down the board a little because of the positions

1007
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 6: that are going ahead of him.

1008
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 2: And I'll give Joe Douglas credit.

1009
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 4: I think when you look at what they've done this offseason,

1010
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 4: he could have done the thing that would have made

1011
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 4: a lot of sense, which is almost make it a

1012
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 4: absurd all in year where you're doing things like you

1013
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 4: trade up for Marvin Harrison, or you make that extra

1014
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 4: signing or two in free agency. I thought all of

1015
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 4: his moves that he made, for the most part, have

1016
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,919
Speaker 4: made this team better and are giving them a real

1017
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 4: chance in twenty twenty four, and while they're gonna have

1018
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 4: a lot of work to do next year if Aaron

1019
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 4: Rodgers is gone or can't play anymore, they haven't mortgaged

1020
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 4: the farm in terms of a lot of their spending.

1021
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 2: So I think there.

1022
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 4: I think he has handled this in a responsible a

1023
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 4: considering there's a very good chance he's not around anymore

1024
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 4: if the season goes poorly.

1025
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 2: I don't think he is gm that way, No, but

1026
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 2: we want, like to be fair. I'm not. It's not

1027
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 2: a Pennock situation.

1028
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 6: But if you're gonna take someone at eleven, you want

1029
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 6: him to contribute and play very soon too.

1030
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 2: I think he will though. Yeah.

1031
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 6: I also because invariably it's the Jets. They're gonna lose

1032
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 6: like two linemen.

1033
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 2: You know that has been the way.

1034
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 4: I would be very surprised if we don't see Oulu

1035
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 4: on the field this year.

1036
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 2: You got to come up with a nickname for him.

1037
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 4: You can't, oh for sh I mean, oh, it is

1038
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 4: a good name, pretty good. So yes, bo Nicks. So

1039
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,280
Speaker 4: he is the sixth quarterback off the board in twelve

1040
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 4: picks to the Denver Broncos. Greg, what were your thoughts

1041
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 4: about this election, Sean Payton seemed to be pretty happy

1042
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 4: with himself in the war room after after went down

1043
00:47:55,719 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 4: twenty four years at all, Auburn transfer to Oregon, and

1044
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 4: now he is entering a quarterback room that has Jared Stidham,

1045
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 4: that has Wilson and now Bow Nix, who I would

1046
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 4: imagine is going to be playing very soon.

1047
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,280
Speaker 5: I want to get into Nicks. But as you mentioned,

1048
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 5: like being proud of himself in the in the worom.

1049
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 5: This is the first draft I've ever watched. Partially with Emica.

1050
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 5: I want my wife along with Walker. You know, she

1051
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 5: was there just coming in and out. But she's like,

1052
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 5: why are they so proud of themselves when they like

1053
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 5: make a decision. It's like, oh, you know, like she

1054
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 5: really cracked up about that. They're all like high fiving.

1055
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 5: There is something awkward to an outsider of like, hey,

1056
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 5: we just called in the pick and then like fifteen

1057
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 5: different guys are like high fiving each other.

1058
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 6: There is something they've been working on it from us,

1059
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 6: so I mean, but also they're all they're all in

1060
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 6: the cusp of probably like separations.

1061
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 2: We get it, we just called it a name.

1062
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 4: Just that is that moment and you could tell Emica.

1063
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 4: I said that, I'm sure she'll be thrilled to hear

1064
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 4: me man split. She has never listened to now that

1065
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 4: that's the cold nation. I did say of months and

1066
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 4: months of hard work, Dan, of grinding, right, that was

1067
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 4: and we appreciate that one moment like oh you beat

1068
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 4: the ten minute clock to make a phone call.

1069
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 5: I was like, okay, that's fair. I don't love what

1070
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 5: I've heard from Seun Payt afterwards. It almost sounds like

1071
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 5: in all these little leaks coming out and.

1072
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,919
Speaker 2: Sean Payte's coming after Peyton, I love it. Well, it's

1073
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 2: just like, what is it? Now? What did he do?

1074
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 5: It's nothing, just that they're so high on bow Nicks

1075
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 5: and they're just leaking off.

1076
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 2: Of course they're going to say they're high. They're drafting

1077
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 2: them with the twelfth overall pen.

1078
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,760
Speaker 5: Of course, but no one thought he was a special

1079
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 5: enough player to go in the first round. And so

1080
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 5: I said, he gave me Jake Locker Christian Ponder vibes.

1081
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 5: And it wasn't because of his playing style at all.

1082
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 5: Maybe Ponder, Uh, it wasn't because of his plain style.

1083
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 5: It's just like it's the end of the quarterback around.

1084
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 5: We have to get a quarterback. We can't wait any longer.

1085
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 2: That's fair.

1086
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 4: Let's take the last one before we feel like there's

1087
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 4: a drop.

1088
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 6: The one thing I do like about him he had

1089
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 6: three thy seven hundred and twenty four college snaps. That's

1090
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 6: more than like Burrows had in the NFL. And it's

1091
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 6: like he did he transferred and had like two totally

1092
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 6: different types of playing styles like it he was. He

1093
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 6: was a better, different, more accurate type quarterback at Oregon.

1094
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 4: But I'm with you, I mean that whole thing where

1095
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 4: it's like this guy played a ton of snaps in college,

1096
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 4: doesn't do six for me.

1097
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 2: Sixty one career start.

1098
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 6: So then there's then there's like Achilles Smith who had

1099
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 6: twelve starts and went like second overall or something and

1100
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 6: flamed out, Like I think, I think having more tape

1101
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 6: on a quarterback is a good thing. I don't know,

1102
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 6: but the odds are the six quarterback off the board

1103
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 6: in the first round is problematic.

1104
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 5: He look his like super high tier comp was was

1105
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 5: breezed that he's just like a point guard, a quick

1106
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 5: decision maker.

1107
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 2: And who coached you, but also sort of an Alex Smith.

1108
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 5: Too, right, And and Peyton is such a good coach.

1109
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 5: His quarterbacks always have good numbers, always are pretty efficient,

1110
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 5: like he's gonna make it work. Well, it's just with

1111
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,479
Speaker 5: the twelfth overall pick, you're taking a quarterback you want.

1112
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 5: You want someone that can maybe make all the throws

1113
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 5: and that has shown an ability to withstand pressure. That

1114
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 5: was the thing watching him. He didn't face a lot

1115
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 5: of pressure when he was at Oregon, but when he did,

1116
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 5: he had like no answer for it.

1117
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 6: Well, he also had forty five touchdowns, three picks last

1118
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 6: season and a seventy seven point four completion percentage. So

1119
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 6: it's not some of these guys like, well, we hope

1120
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 6: that they can be accurate as a pro. We love

1121
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 6: their arm and all this stuff. It's like, I think

1122
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 6: this isn't a Sean Payton type guy. Like, so that's

1123
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,760
Speaker 6: I can understand. I don't think it's all false pr

1124
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 6: that that I know that anything that comes out of

1125
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 6: Sean Payton's mouth, greg Is and Amica certly are going

1126
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 6: to disagree with or shun.

1127
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 2: But it's like he can.

1128
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 5: Work with this guy. So he wasn't coming out of

1129
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 5: Sean Payton specifically. It was a different war room. But uh,

1130
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 5: he actually admitted after too that He's like, well, I

1131
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 5: may have been directly responsible for making people think that

1132
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 5: we were going to trade up. So he was bragging afterwards.

1133
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 5: How he It's like verbalized that like twelve times.

1134
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,760
Speaker 4: It's almost like Sean Payton has an exceedingly high opinion

1135
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 4: of himself. I just get this feeling. Anybody else get

1136
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 4: that feeling? There is there is an energy. Alright, I'm

1137
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 4: gonna do the next five picks and jump in with

1138
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 4: anything on any of them. Okay, so you got brock

1139
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 4: Bauers the tight end going to the Raiders. So they

1140
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 4: find their Darren Waller replacement. Look at it that way,

1141
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 4: as a hyper athletic playmaker, maybe not a high end blocker.

1142
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 4: The Saints drafted tackle I'm not gonna get this one

1143
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 4: at Teleisi Fuaga out of Oregon State. And then at

1144
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 4: number fifteen, the Colts say, you know what, We're going

1145
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 4: to end the street the streak, and we're going to

1146
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 4: take a defensive player. So they take Latu Latu defensive

1147
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 4: end out of UCLA.

1148
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 2: So you get high value.

1149
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 4: There is the first defensive player off the board in

1150
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,280
Speaker 4: the middle of the first round. This was an outlier, obviously,

1151
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 4: and the Seahawks take Byron Murphy, the defensive tackle out

1152
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 4: of Texas, so there is thirteen through sixteen.

1153
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 5: Bowers going to the Raiders was fascinating. No one had

1154
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 5: that happening. I love it because they just need more weapons.

1155
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 5: But the reason no one had it happening is because

1156
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 5: they just took Michael Mayer last year. It's is like

1157
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 5: a high second round. That's right, but interesting. It was

1158
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 5: a different regime and I'm with that. First of all,

1159
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 5: Bowers is a whole nother level of athletics.

1160
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 2: You could make two tight ends work.

1161
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 5: You want to, and Mayer is a little bit more

1162
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 5: of the the inline tight end who can also catch

1163
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 5: some passes but isn't gonna be going for like a

1164
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 5: thousand yards and Bowers could be that guy, and you

1165
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 5: just can't.

1166
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 2: You can't.

1167
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 5: Make decisions based on what the last GM did, like like, oh,

1168
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 5: he took mayor so I can't take him if you

1169
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 5: think Bowers is the best guy, and a lot of teams, probably.

1170
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 6: Especially especially the last Raiders GM, but now generally, but.

1171
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 4: From like a Raiders fan perspective, last year he used

1172
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 4: the first round pick on a tight end. You weren't

1173
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 4: second high second Oh high second on a tight end

1174
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 4: like was his ceiling here? Like inline blocker who has

1175
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 4: six hundred yards in a season like right, it doesn't

1176
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 4: sound like a team that's you know, but that's the

1177
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,919
Speaker 4: risk when you blow things up and regimes change.

1178
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 2: It leads to it's.

1179
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 6: Great news for Gardner Minshew because it's like you're now

1180
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 6: you're starting. It's your team at this point. But I

1181
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 6: will say the one pick, I think it's not great

1182
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 6: news for Devontae Adams. But yeah, no, you're right. But

1183
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 6: if you're Mike McDonald, I just watched what he did

1184
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 6: with so many Ravens players on defense last year.

1185
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 2: I didn't know what the Seahawks were going to do

1186
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 2: in this.

1187
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 6: I kind of thought they might go for quarterback like

1188
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 6: they might, but Byron Murphy, to me, I loved watching him,

1189
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 6: and I think Mike McDonald is going to get something

1190
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 6: out of Byron Murphy right away. It wasn't like it

1191
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 6: was the biggest need on the play at all other needs,

1192
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 6: but like I love, I think it's a Seattle Seahawks

1193
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 6: type player.

1194
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 5: Right, and the things pick they kind of had to

1195
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 5: make it. This has been bubbling around, but Ian reported

1196
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 5: how Ryan Ramchick might be retiring. So I talked about

1197
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 5: how they blew their left tackle pick a couple of

1198
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 5: years ago, Trevor Penny, who can't get on the field,

1199
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 5: so they needed a left tackle. They also needed a

1200
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 5: right tackle, so they just had to take a tackle,

1201
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 5: and they took the guy who's like most fun to

1202
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 5: watch in like a brawler type, which is very sainty,

1203
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 5: and I will say I have to do a lot

1204
00:54:58,400 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 5: to like his pass rushing was I.

1205
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,439
Speaker 2: I'm pumped for him as a pro.

1206
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 5: Hym and my guy Newton were my two favorite defensive

1207
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 5: players in the draft.

1208
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 4: Only one of them got drafted tonight, though we'll talk

1209
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 4: about that on Saturday. But little Susie ain't getting the

1210
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:15,240
Speaker 4: braces this summer.

1211
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 2: Not this summer. Maybe next summer. Don't count old buck tooth, Susie.

1212
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,280
Speaker 6: It gets tougher and tougher to correct teeth with braces

1213
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 6: as you age.

1214
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,479
Speaker 5: Got to keep her in the dark. Hey, I didn't

1215
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 5: make you guys follow me, but I did get a

1216
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 5: tweet from tah seventy six rain maker blanked me again.

1217
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 4: All right, stick a pin in that defensive runt, the

1218
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 4: third defensive player in the road in a row. Because

1219
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 4: the Vikings. They make more moves. Yes, greg no go

1220
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 4: aheading at me now. I just want to on the Vikings.

1221
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 2: Okay, I just let me get it out.

1222
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 4: Minnesota Vikings via trade from the Jaguars, get Dallas Turner,

1223
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 4: outside linebacker from Alabama. That nice value pick there, Gregory,

1224
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 4: it was, you know what he I had a harder

1225
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 4: time with him, but he he he's a great A

1226
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 4: lot of people had him as the top ed rusher,

1227
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 4: DJ had him like great value to get up there.

1228
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 5: But they gave up you know, a three and a

1229
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 5: four to move up five spots, and it did make

1230
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 5: me think.

1231
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 2: About them not a value pick.

1232
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:24,879
Speaker 5: They've just been building this team up for three years now,

1233
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 5: even though they have like a new quarterback that it

1234
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 5: felt like this was a little bit of go time

1235
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,439
Speaker 5: for QUESTI. They've been accumulating picks and take a lot

1236
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 5: of different guys, and it was like, we got to

1237
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 5: start getting our guys and we got to kind of

1238
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 5: push our chips in the table. We got to be

1239
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 5: a little better this year to help out our rookie

1240
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 5: quarterback and Sam Darnold on the defensive side. So they're

1241
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 5: they're kind of taking a swing here by giving up

1242
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,720
Speaker 5: all those picks, those just to move up five spots.

1243
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 6: That was expensive. It was a fit along with the switching.

1244
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 6: First it was a fifth this year, and a third

1245
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 6: and a fourth next season.

1246
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 4: Now, Mark, I don't put it like I don't get

1247
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 4: too jazzed up about guys that play a million snaps

1248
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 4: in college, but I do get noivous when guys hardly

1249
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 4: play in college. Right, And so the Bengals and a

1250
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 4: lot of people saw this coming, Mark, I think you

1251
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 4: had Cincinnati going for the offensive line in your Mark draft. Yeah,

1252
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 4: not this guy Amarus Mims out of Georgia, who's got

1253
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 4: everything you could want out of a tackle in terms

1254
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 4: of size and athleticism.

1255
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 2: But this man made eight starts in college.

1256
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 4: So that is obviously you are You're looking at his

1257
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 4: traits and you're saying this, this is an NFL player,

1258
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 4: but you barely saw him in college. But the tape

1259
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 4: and his testing was enough for the Cincinnati to say,

1260
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 4: maybe we have something special here that seems like a

1261
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 4: roll of the dice at eighteen.

1262
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I with you.

1263
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 6: I like, I think, like you know, injury history and

1264
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 6: durability matter. Like he'd allowed one QB hurry on two

1265
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 6: hundred and ninety seven snaps last year, and he'd I

1266
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 6: don't know. I think that if you read the positive traits,

1267
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 6: the Bengals are are hoping traits are great. I mean

1268
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 6: because he's shown those things. It's not like they're guessing

1269
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 6: that he has them. It's just that he was like

1270
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 6: it wasn't around.

1271
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 5: Six ' eight though they have a type there. There

1272
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 5: are three tackles right now. Are Orlando Brown one of

1273
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 5: the largest humans ever created, Trent Brown one of the

1274
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 5: largest humans ever created? With now Amarus Mims who a

1275
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 5: lot of people, the people that are super into tackles

1276
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 5: in the draft, they're thinking he's the most fascinating guy

1277
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 5: in the draft. That the boomer bus guy in the

1278
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 5: draft could be a total top five talent in total

1279
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 5: who knows, you know, have a good development six.

1280
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 4: Seven three forty, gifted with size and athleticism with Kaipex

1281
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 4: like it.

1282
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 2: It can go both ways with the Giants. Yeah, but

1283
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 2: what do you want him to be? Five?

1284
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 4: No, I want him to be exactly six six eighteen

1285
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 4: And then I'm totally fine with the pick.

1286
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 2: You asked, well, I mean, point Mark, thank you wouldn't

1287
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 2: even make a point be on the field a little more. Yeah,

1288
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 2: I guess that's what you are. That's the question. What

1289
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 2: was the point that you don't want me to be small?

1290
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 2: I thought I made it.

1291
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 6: I thought I made a point that I think if

1292
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 6: you're listening to this, you're thinking that was that. I

1293
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 6: took Dan in a different direction there, wheeled him around

1294
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 6: a little bit.

1295
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 2: So wheel this. The rams at nineteen finally picked this one.

1296
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 2: Was fun.

1297
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 4: I love this on the you love the pick, I

1298
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 4: love the player. Okay, I love this all right. So

1299
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 4: Jared Verse is very talented defensive end. A lot of

1300
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 4: people say, oh, maybe the best PR pass rusher and

1301
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 4: all that. However, you know enough enough. However, I loved

1302
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 4: this from Charles Davis, who while Jared Versus, you know,

1303
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 4: off the board and it's this big moment in his life.

1304
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 4: Here's Charles Davis asking the questions that need to be as.

1305
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 4: I talk with a top level NFL scout former GM

1306
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 4: and he said, hey, this kid had the reputation of being,

1307
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 4: you know, kind of a you know what.

1308
00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 2: So I asked him, point, Blake, are you a new

1309
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 2: you know what? Jared Verse? And he said, I am

1310
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 2: on the practice field and on the game field. The

1311
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 2: rest of the time. I'm an okay guy. He knows

1312
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 2: how to.

1313
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 4: Turn it on, just like charl Di so you and

1314
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 4: asked like, be honest.

1315
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 2: I love it.

1316
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 6: I I don't know if I saw anyone like on

1317
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:18,439
Speaker 6: the defensive side of the ball that made me more

1318
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 6: interested than this player.

1319
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 5: Charles was kind of working blue tonight because he also

1320
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 5: tried to quote, uh, why am I forgetting his name

1321
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 5: Brian Cox's character in Succession? You know f Off doing

1322
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 5: the telecast.

1323
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 2: Davis was out there today. Is that I like that

1324
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 2: version of him? I love that Charles Davis. Sorry, Jared Versus,

1325
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 2: you were very verse, not.

1326
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 6: Like you know the way he rushes the passer, like

1327
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 6: I mentioned on that other show, watching him just like

1328
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 6: take you know these six six three d and forty

1329
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 6: pound guys and just like smashing them into the quarterback

1330
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 6: and they both fall to the ground.

1331
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 2: Like toy soldiers. It's like this guy like makes the rams.

1332
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 6: I mean it was a need for them too, but

1333
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 6: it's like it is someone that can come in and

1334
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 6: like punish people in the NFC West.

1335
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 2: I kind of love him the way he plays a

1336
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 2: nice team. I love him with Byron Young. It's kind

1337
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 2: of the total opposite.

1338
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 5: You have you have the bend in the edge speed Edgdresher,

1339
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 5: and then you have the big strong maybe set the

1340
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 5: edge a little better in the run defense with Jared

1341
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 5: versus they're a nice little and.

1342
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 2: Think he's a little bit of a butt head. Hopefully

1343
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 2: he can deal with it, you know what I mean.

1344
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 2: He said he's a good guy. Off he'd claim he

1345
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 2: said he was, Yeah, well how would you, how would anyone?

1346
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 2: Well if it got to the point where like a

1347
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 2: lot of the chatter was like, you know, this guy

1348
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 2: kind of sucks all of that.

1349
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 5: He seemed to have a very nice, loving family set up.

1350
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 5: He had a heartwarming.

1351
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,439
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it. I don't know anything about the man.

1352
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 4: I'm just saying it had reached a level that Charles

1353
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 4: Davis brought it up to a national audience minutes seconds

1354
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 4: after he was taken. And then it was so important

1355
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 4: to Charles C. D that he asked the man himself.

1356
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, the report, the reporting hit a tipping point and

1357
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 6: he had to, you know, ask the question that needed

1358
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 6: to be asked to get that. Do you want him

1359
01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 6: to be I don't want to be too friendly, so my.

1360
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 4: Curiosity is peaked like like what is going on for

1361
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 4: that to be like a main storyline from one of

1362
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 4: the top college analysts. Seconds there, Eric, can you put

1363
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 4: in a request for Jared Verse? When we talk about this,

1364
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 4: I get that, what a great point, and give me

1365
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 4: a ding, give me something. Nobody's asking these questions. Well,

1366
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 4: Charles Davis, is you get a bully for a ding?

1367
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 4: It's not It's not worth it. It handed out dings

1368
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 4: and greats points. The Sessler's not even making points.

1369
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 6: Why why do you need to turn into this person

1370
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 6: during this during what has been a you know, a

1371
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 6: relatively well natured show. You're you're asking for praise and

1372
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 6: sound clips and all this stuff without endless praise? Can

1373
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 6: you get out of this show without endless praise aimed

1374
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 6: at you?

1375
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 2: Do you know? You know? I don't know. It seems absurd.

1376
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 2: Do you know what you think I'm being right now?

1377
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 2: You're being I don't know if I'd go there. It's

1378
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 2: brought a background on you.

1379
01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 4: He did bring your back around, Yeah, admit, Like, all right,

1380
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 4: let's take a Breakney and let's finish round one. All right,

1381
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 4: we're back. We are at pick twenty. Let's hit the

1382
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 4: rest of the first round. Now, the Pittsburgh Steelers. They

1383
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 4: go to their offensive line, adding help there with Troy

1384
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 4: Fatinau from Washington. So interior is that the first guard

1385
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 4: off the board interior alignment.

1386
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 5: You know they're listing him that way. But he was

1387
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 5: fantastic at tackle and could be playing there like a

1388
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 5: lot of these offensive linemen. Actually, Graham Martin coming up

1389
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 5: to could play multiple positions, but I have a feeling

1390
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 5: they will try him at tackle.

1391
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 6: He's incredibly Yeah, PFF called him, labeled him as the

1392
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 6: most versatile alignment of any of them. So that's you know,

1393
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 6: multi position diverse and the best overall athlete of all

1394
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 6: the lignment.

1395
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 2: It's saying. It looked more like a tight end.

1396
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,439
Speaker 4: It's excellent to have the Yeah, the alignment that could

1397
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 4: play all over.

1398
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 2: Now, the Dolphins they go defense.

1399
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 4: They take Chop Robinson edge at a Penn State and

1400
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 4: that is a move. You know, some people thought, Greggie,

1401
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 4: maybe the Dolphins would take a burner and just go

1402
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 4: totally hog while on their offense. But they do address

1403
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 4: their defense, which seems to make sense. Well, I thought

1404
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 4: they might go your guy Newton there. Yeah, I was

1405
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 4: where it started to feel like this storry bro might

1406
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 4: not work out for me. It was a big need

1407
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 4: because Bradley Chubb and Jalen Phillips just bad luck, are

1408
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 4: coming off massive injuries. Both of them might not be

1409
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 4: ready for the start of the season, so you could

1410
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 4: be starting or certainly asking Chop Robinson to play a

1411
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 4: lot of snaps. Shack Barry is on that roster too.

1412
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 4: Quiet signing by.

1413
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 6: Them, and they were like their pass rushing fell apart

1414
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 6: at the end of last season. I don't hate I

1415
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 6: like to pick for them. I thought that, like Chop

1416
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 6: Robinson was interesting to watch.

1417
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 2: I thought Xavier Worthy there would.

1418
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 4: Have been that would have been whining, but he landed

1419
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 4: in a pretty fascinating place. I thought it was I

1420
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 4: thought it was weird and that you don't usually see this.

1421
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 4: I think it was Daniel Jeremiah who said that Chop

1422
01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 4: Robinson his nickname of Chop is because of like the

1423
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 4: choppy steps he takes. He's known for, Like that's the

1424
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 4: way he kind of moves, and that's one of the

1425
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 4: things that perhaps they want to coach out of him.

1426
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 4: So you want to quar nick out. Yeah, the thing

1427
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 4: that his actual like his nickname. Wow, Yeah, I don't

1428
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 4: like that.

1429
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 2: I didn't like that at all.

1430
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:21,479
Speaker 4: Old regular steps Robinson. Yeah, that's troubling anyway. Let's move

1431
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 4: to the Eagles, who have done it again, ladies and gentlemen,

1432
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 4: boys and girls. As you heard you heard it here

1433
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 4: first that the Eagles won the draft Night one with

1434
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 4: Quinyan Mitchell out of Toledo cornerback, high value. And I

1435
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 4: was seeing it everywhere. But let's call this one up.

1436
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:44,919
Speaker 4: I saw this. Quinyan Mitchell electrifies Eagles fans at number

1437
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 4: twenty two Comma Heist of the twenty twenty four NFL drafts.

1438
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 4: So rest easy, everyone, The sheep are still herded together.

1439
01:05:55,840 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 4: Oh trope of Yes, what all the smart people say

1440
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 4: the Eagles do everything right? So I will say that

1441
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 4: immediately on instinct, and then I'll be amongst the safe people.

1442
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 5: Well, this bit must be, uh, this is all in

1443
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 5: your head. This bit must be really resonating because after

1444
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 5: this pick, and of course I complimented something about the Eagles,

1445
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 5: Everyone's like.

1446
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 2: Is that going to be okay? With Dan? Hey?

1447
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 5: All we heard all week is like, there's no chance

1448
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 5: Howie Roseman sticking in picking. He does kind of trade

1449
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 5: up and trade out, but how he's so far ahead

1450
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 5: of the rest of the league. He knew somehow that

1451
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 5: he was going to have his pick of any cornerback

1452
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 5: in the draft his number one need. So we think alike.

1453
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 5: After all these podcasts together, Dan I also collected some

1454
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 5: reaction to the Eagles picks.

1455
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 2: We have a series of Doug Ferrar is higher than

1456
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 2: an A plus.

1457
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 5: Let's go there is nothing higher than an A plus,

1458
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 5: Lindsay Roads, our great friend likely fun to be an

1459
01:06:56,200 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 5: Eagles fan on draft. Every pick just feels perpot ah ah, what.

1460
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 2: Are you talking? We got one more?

1461
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:04,919
Speaker 5: We got one more? This was my favorite one. How

1462
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 5: he can't keep getting away with this?

1463
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 2: I think Dan's point has been made. Howie mother, it's

1464
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 2: it's a perfect It looks like a great pick. I'm

1465
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 2: just saying it. It is a good way.

1466
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 4: People in our industry tend to want to gravitate toward

1467
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 4: who are the the thought leaders on social media, and

1468
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 4: they know that the Eagles are very popular amongst those people,

1469
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 4: one of them, and so they'll just say, oh, let

1470
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 4: me immediately get my take out there, my little keyboard. Yeah,

1471
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 4: get my little keyboard out there. I'll get my take

1472
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 4: out there, and I'll align with the smart people. And

1473
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 4: then people think I'm smart.

1474
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 6: I think I think I saw these people have the

1475
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 6: same opinion. I think Dan is absolutely onto something. And then,

1476
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 6: like rosemand got going early. They signed aj Brown to

1477
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 6: a three year deal right after the DeVante Smith thing,

1478
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 6: which I thought cleared up what could have been an

1479
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 6: off season you know, drama, drama gone.

1480
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 2: Howie Roseman, what great to give.

1481
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:00,040
Speaker 5: That A plus plus plus plus plus it was this

1482
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 5: that was like a sneaky big contract is by far

1483
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 5: the biggest thing.

1484
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 2: They just gave a huge contract to a wide receivers.

1485
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 5: Eighty four million guarantee right if thirty two a year

1486
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 5: in new money, which is easily the most. And we'll

1487
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 5: have to look at all the details and stuff, but

1488
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,719
Speaker 5: this is setting the bar. I think these these wide

1489
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 5: receiver contracts are going to get crazy. Everyone's trying to

1490
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 5: get in before Jefferson because the aman Ross Saint Brown contract.

1491
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 5: We never hit that on this on the pod just

1492
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 5: because of timing, but both him and Piney Sewell got

1493
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 5: monster deals from the Lions.

1494
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 2: Classy move by the Lions.

1495
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 5: They give their stars huge contracts way before the draft,

1496
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 5: and then they bring them out to introduce the draft

1497
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 5: along with Megatron and them and.

1498
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 2: There has to be a tradition obviously pretty good sense

1499
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 2: to the moment. Every team at the moment.

1500
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 4: Every team that's hosting should do that with their here

1501
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 4: their legends, because it's a great moment for them and

1502
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 4: the fans that are there for ten hours. All kidding aside,

1503
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:54,639
Speaker 4: I think it's a perfectly good pick for the Eagles.

1504
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:56,680
Speaker 4: They do know what they're doing, and I did. I

1505
01:08:56,760 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 4: think it left me. I felt a little I felt

1506
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:03,560
Speaker 4: a little bad, quite honestly about I don't want to

1507
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 4: be in a like a blood feud with Philadelphia because

1508
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 4: I don't have any issues with Philadelphia.

1509
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:09,600
Speaker 2: Apparently not.

1510
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 4: I really don't like about those Sixers Nicks series going

1511
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 4: on that that's great and that's fun. And the Sixers

1512
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 4: got off the mat tonight. It's a good job by them.

1513
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:20,799
Speaker 4: But so there's a there's I guess that's a rivalry.

1514
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 4: But I'm not a Mets fan, so like the Phillies

1515
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 4: don't bother me, and I'm not a Giants fan, contrary

1516
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 4: to popular belief by people who listen to the show,

1517
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 4: so I don't have an Eagles hatred.

1518
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 2: In fact, I'm going to share some things I like

1519
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:34,560
Speaker 2: about Philadelphia.

1520
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 3: I am.

1521
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 4: Let's take a brief aside here Hall of Oates, love

1522
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 4: hall of Oates. How about cheese steaks with the cheese whizz.

1523
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:50,719
Speaker 4: Mark can't wait till they are both.

1524
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 2: He's like, we're going to be here five more. I

1525
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 2: give them both. A lot of people say, oh, I

1526
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,679
Speaker 2: only like Hall not Over, but I'm both from Philly.

1527
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 2: They're Philly. Yeah that Philly for real? Is there a

1528
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 2: third item? More? Mark?

1529
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 4: Okay, Randall Cunningham's ninety one yard punt?

1530
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 2: Love that? Yeah, yep, good? Remember that.

1531
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 4: I meant the Giant team. But how about like that

1532
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 4: ninety two yard throw that touchdown?

1533
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 2: Love that too?

1534
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 4: And I love that move the Superman dive in the

1535
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 4: end zone. Love it all, but the ninety one yard

1536
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 4: punt is better. I like Bryce Harper speaking of the Phillies,

1537
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 4: He's a fun guy to watch. I like Questlove. I

1538
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 4: like the Roots, I got good songs.

1539
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 2: I like, uh, it's always sunny in Philadelphia or listening

1540
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 2: to it right now? The theme? Yeah, I mean that's

1541
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 2: a Hollywood product. Put okay, you know what. I like

1542
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 2: the Declaration of Independence? Bitch, that's American. Where was the

1543
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 2: sign near that crack bell? I get it? I like

1544
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 2: Silver Linings Playbook. Okay, do you I do. I love

1545
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:52,600
Speaker 2: that movie. Actually, even though Bradley Cooper's in, Yeah, I

1546
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:54,639
Speaker 2: feel like that one of the main star. You seem

1547
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 2: to dislike that.

1548
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:58,719
Speaker 4: I love several of the m Night Shyamalan films, fine,

1549
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:02,679
Speaker 4: several of them, and most of all, I love Colleen Wolf.

1550
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 4: So okay, put it all together, and uh, it's not

1551
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 4: all bad. So I want to I want to make

1552
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 4: peace with Philly if if you want, we could bury

1553
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 4: the hatchet here tonight.

1554
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 6: I think Greg and I are watching you evolved before

1555
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 6: our eyes on this episode of the podcast.

1556
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 5: If you if you watch us on night YouTube, you

1557
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 5: should check that out. Get you know, we'll have it up.

1558
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 5: You'll see Brian Baldinger was there with with Colleen, also

1559
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 5: from Philly. Right, yeah, Paul in Philly. But I didn't notice.

1560
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 5: You didn't mention, you know, Gonzo.

1561
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:36,839
Speaker 2: The oh, I love Gonzo. John goes without saying.

1562
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 4: I mean I could sit here all day just naming

1563
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:39,680
Speaker 4: every person I've ever met from him.

1564
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 2: Right, but he's the husband of the you know the woman.

1565
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:47,680
Speaker 2: This is great. It's very Greg, but yes, John two, okay, good.

1566
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 6: I didn't want to leave now, Greg's like, let's let

1567
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 6: me not get out of this segment without some feud

1568
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 6: being created between you and someone's husband.

1569
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 4: All right, let's move on. The Jacksonville Jaguars. Oh, I

1570
01:11:58,840 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 4: love this one.

1571
01:11:59,520 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 2: This one.

1572
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 4: This is via a trade with Minnesota through Cleveland from Houston.

1573
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 4: They Brian Thomas, the wide receiver out of LSU and

1574
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 4: the writing this would have been I feel like an

1575
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 4: easy sandwich, Greg if anybody threw it out there because

1576
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:18,680
Speaker 4: they badly wanted Calvin Ridley back and they thought it

1577
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 4: was in the bag, and then they ended up getting

1578
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 4: losing him because another team blew him out of the water.

1579
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 2: So now they replaced Calvin Ridley and that was a need.

1580
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 5: If a different team made this trade, everyone be like,

1581
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:34,679
Speaker 5: oh they did it again, like they Trent Balki played

1582
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 5: the board perfectly. This is not typically what the Jaguars did.

1583
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,799
Speaker 5: But they were at seventeen overall where I thought Brian

1584
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 5: Thomas Junior would have or could have been the pick there.

1585
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 5: They also could have taken a cornerback certainly, but I

1586
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 5: thought they. I love Thomas, people just don't move like him.

1587
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 5: He reminds me a little bit of DK Metcalf just

1588
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 5: in the not like he's as big as as physical.

1589
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 5: He's more of just a burner and smooth, but just

1590
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 5: like he has one skill set that is just so

1591
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 5: exceptional that he can learn the rest as they go.

1592
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 5: And so they moved back six spots. They got all

1593
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:05,640
Speaker 5: these picks. We talked about that the Vikings gave up

1594
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 5: a third and a fourth next year and I think

1595
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 5: really added some juice to that offense. That is a

1596
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 5: speedy offense with ETN, Gabe Davis and Brian Thomas and

1597
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 5: I mean if.

1598
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 6: You look at their wide out room, Christian kirk, z

1599
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 6: A Jones, Gabe Davis and Evan Ingram at tight end,

1600
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 6: like this is a fact. There's a lot going on

1601
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 6: here in terms of right speed, downfield speed and Thomas

1602
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 6: is a deep bul thread.

1603
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 4: Did you guys see the Jaguars war room at this time? Yes,

1604
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 4: that was good, pretty tough. Tony Kahan, who's been on

1605
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 4: the show. He's the son of Seod conn and he's

1606
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 4: a you know, a big figure obviously with the Jaguars,

1607
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 4: and I believe he owns a wrestling.

1608
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was like this like in the Latin the

1609
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 6: past couple of days was body slammed we have this

1610
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:50,599
Speaker 6: wrestling event.

1611
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:55,599
Speaker 4: He got pile of driven into the ground and listen,

1612
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 4: wrestling is scripted, but the guys take real bumps. And

1613
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 4: Tony takes a bump that requires him to wear a

1614
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 4: neck brace, and I just have like a take here.

1615
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:08,720
Speaker 4: Neck braces in general, they're rough, like you, like, no

1616
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 4: one looks good in a neck brace. There's something truly

1617
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 4: vulnerable about being stuck in a neck brace. The way

1618
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 4: you're like stiff and you you have no range of

1619
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 4: You're like Michael Keaton in the first Batman, like you

1620
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 4: can't move and your just eyes are darting around.

1621
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:23,680
Speaker 2: You just don't look very good. It's tough, tough, bad

1622
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 2: beat ready to come on? How do you have a controller?

1623
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 2: And take about neck brace?

1624
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 5: Because it's it's kate what do they call it? Kate

1625
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 5: fabri what like he's playing it up. It's a wink

1626
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 5: wink to the whole wrestling community. Yeah, of course it's

1627
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 5: a bit he got. It's wrestling. He's making it really,

1628
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 5: he's making it real. I would say it if you

1629
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 5: in that. Everyone loved it.

1630
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 6: He did seem to be to have full uh full

1631
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:49,640
Speaker 6: motion and he was struggling with his I mean are

1632
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:52,679
Speaker 6: you are you are you telling me that people don't

1633
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:53,799
Speaker 6: get injured in wrestling?

1634
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 5: Of course they do, But I follow I guess enough

1635
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 5: wrestling fans on Twitter that were just going nuts that

1636
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 5: like he took it this far that he acted. They

1637
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 5: were like basically people were begging and hoping he would

1638
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 5: wear the neck brace to the thing because he's not

1639
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:07,720
Speaker 5: really he's not really here.

1640
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 2: And he did it, and he did it. He ended it.

1641
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 2: Your point to it, and he did it last night.

1642
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:12,600
Speaker 2: Would do it.

1643
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 5: He did it last day on national TV to set

1644
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 5: it up.

1645
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:17,599
Speaker 2: He's one step ahead of you.

1646
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 4: He's promoting the injury is one step ahead of the draft.

1647
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 4: I think he wants to be on national television and

1648
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 4: the neck brace. Yes, yeah, I think it's it's we're

1649
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 4: talking about it an act. Yes, I'm just saying it's

1650
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 4: a tough. It's tough. You're not wrong about the neck break.

1651
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 4: Have you ever watch wrestling in your life?

1652
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 2: Yeah? Injuries happen, I know. But in this case, how

1653
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 2: can you be so sure?

1654
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 5: Because because he owns the company and they set it

1655
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 5: up that.

1656
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 2: It happened to he was was he actually pile driven? Yes?

1657
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 2: And then they is it possibly could have hurt his

1658
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 2: neck taking the pile driver.

1659
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 4: You'd have to say it's I will I will defer

1660
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 4: to all the wrestling enthusiasts that are into it night

1661
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:03,759
Speaker 4: after night, who all acknowledged and embraced that he's having

1662
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 4: some fun here.

1663
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 6: I Greg Greg, Like any on any pocket of Twitter,

1664
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 6: Greg is one of the largest followers of every.

1665
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 2: Pocket's got a terrible take.

1666
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 6: Wing once on this show, but he is also one

1667
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 6: of the largest Twitter followers of wrestling fanatics.

1668
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 2: The answer making news. Greg knows everything. But there's no

1669
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 2: question you're wrong in this no question. It's impossible. Wait,

1670
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 2: what's breaking it? Well, yeah, that you're wrong. Oh that's

1671
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 2: impossible now all the time. But in this case, you're wrong.

1672
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 2: But how do you know? I'm just curious, like you,

1673
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 2: you must know because it's I wouldn't this happened.

1674
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 5: I sort of was like, he did it, like it's

1675
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 5: an amazing that's an amazing marketing bit that you set up.

1676
01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 4: Marketing because it does set up your national team. I

1677
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:03,320
Speaker 4: think he turned put up put it this way. I

1678
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 4: think he turned lemons into lemonade. I think he got

1679
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 4: dinked in a big spot.

1680
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 6: I think you're you're all right, kind of a Mario

1681
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 6: Smims is like, could they have spent seven minutes on

1682
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 6: on my on the greatest day of mind.

1683
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 4: The Lions, via trade with the Dallas Cowboys, take Terry

1684
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 4: and Arnold, the cornerback out of Alabama. The Packers take

1685
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 4: offensive tackle Jordan Morgan out of Arizona. The Bucks select

1686
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:30,799
Speaker 4: Graham Barton, tackle at a Duke a center that apparently

1687
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:34,840
Speaker 4: the Cowboys wanted a piece of and don't get them.

1688
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 4: And the Cardinals via the Houston Texans they had that

1689
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 4: extra first round pick from their trade last year, take

1690
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 4: Darius Robbins Robinson, defensive end at a Missouri.

1691
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:46,760
Speaker 2: I think for.

1692
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 6: Detroit they were fortunate, as were you know, a number

1693
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:54,479
Speaker 6: of teams that the cornerback run came late that that

1694
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:58,719
Speaker 6: this really was sort of the final position that Detroit

1695
01:17:58,840 --> 01:17:59,719
Speaker 6: needed to address.

1696
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:02,720
Speaker 2: And Terry Arnold falls into your lap.

1697
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 6: He's from Alabama, you know he can play, and you

1698
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 6: added Carlton Davis in the offseason, You've got Brian Branch.

1699
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 6: Suddenly it looks like a strength. If Arnold works out,

1700
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 6: you've got a strength.

1701
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 5: He was probably the safest cornerback in the draft just

1702
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 5: because he's from Alabama. He's a Lions type of guy,

1703
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 5: and then to see him come out and the crowd

1704
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 5: just go crazy for him, and he was like ready

1705
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:27,959
Speaker 5: for that moment and like embraced it and said.

1706
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 2: I'm home, I'm home. I just want to say, Detroit

1707
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 2: put y'all got a start, man, he come home. Man,

1708
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 2: that's awesome. Well I dig that. All right.

1709
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 4: Let's stop down right here, take a quick break, and

1710
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 4: we'll be back with more of round one. All right,

1711
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 4: we're back number twenty eight. The Kansas City Chiefs. They

1712
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 4: move up, they trade up, They trade up for a

1713
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 4: wide receiver. Does that sound familiar. We'll talk about it

1714
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:05,600
Speaker 4: on Saturday. And they take Xavier Worthy. And there's a

1715
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 4: lot of reasons to be excited about this pick because

1716
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:11,599
Speaker 4: that is the saving savior. Worthy that ran a four

1717
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 4: point two to one at the combine, setting the record

1718
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 4: at that event for speed.

1719
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 2: He's undersized Mark Sessler.

1720
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 4: However, the Chiefs have been missing this element of their

1721
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 4: offense since Tyreek Hill was traded. And we will not

1722
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:29,680
Speaker 4: go into a new season in Kansas City being like

1723
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 4: they haven't added something new and exciting. This Whether it

1724
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:35,680
Speaker 4: works or not, whether his as an undersized receiver, he's

1725
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 4: able to translate at one hundred and sixty five pounds

1726
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 4: of bucks sixty five.

1727
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:44,760
Speaker 2: We'll see, but this is an exciting idea. Yes, and

1728
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 2: they went for it, and he's.

1729
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:49,760
Speaker 6: Getting to Sean Jackson comps and you added Hollywood Brown.

1730
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 2: So they've addressed it.

1731
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 6: And I think the one of the more fascinating for me,

1732
01:19:55,360 --> 01:20:00,160
Speaker 6: unpredictable turns in this draft post Pennix Junior, is that

1733
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 6: the Bills allowed the Chiefs to trade into their spot

1734
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 6: when they also needed a wide receiver.

1735
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 2: And we'll get to what they didn't do later.

1736
01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 6: But the Chiefs, of all teams to trade with, allowed

1737
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 6: to come into that space and take a guy that

1738
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,439
Speaker 6: amps up their offense. I don't know, you know what,

1739
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:18,680
Speaker 6: just because it's the Bills, I guess it could have

1740
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 6: been anyone. It just seems to me if you're a

1741
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 6: Bills fan, you're like, excuse me, you did what where now?

1742
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:25,640
Speaker 2: Today? With the with the Chiefs. Well, let's ask Eric

1743
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 2: the producer, Eric, where you're at.

1744
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's I mean, yeah, it's definitely situations

1745
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 7: you don't do with the Chiefs.

1746
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 2: It's they might as well be in your division.

1747
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 7: It's like, I think it's worse yeah, yeah, yeah, I

1748
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:40,840
Speaker 7: mean the Jets haven't ripped our heart out, you know

1749
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 7: every year from no, like they're the ones that won't

1750
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 7: let you go. You're on the blacklist, and then you

1751
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 7: give them, you know, a speedster that we're probably gonna

1752
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 7: give you Tyreek Kill flashbacks and and yeah, and then

1753
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 7: like Mark alluded to, they you know, eventually trade themselves

1754
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 7: out of the first round entirely and don't address anything.

1755
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 2: And it was a weird day. I hear that.

1756
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 5: And but like if the value was good and it

1757
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:06,280
Speaker 5: didn't get that much. Actually they just got to move

1758
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 5: up from the third to the fourth. And it's like

1759
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:13,639
Speaker 5: twenty seven straight teams didn't want Xavier Worthy. The Bills

1760
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 5: didn't want Xavier Worthy. Can maybe Xavier Worthy would have

1761
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 5: felt like two or three more picks? Want me be

1762
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 5: a good pick one argument though, Greg, because the way

1763
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 5: the way it turns out, and the Bills will pick

1764
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 5: you know, first of all, two more wide receivers went

1765
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:28,840
Speaker 5: off the board before they'll pick again, So it's not

1766
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 5: just about Xavier Worthy. But maybe, yeah, maybe they If

1767
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 5: you're a Bills fan, you're like, what are are we

1768
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 5: the AFC's cowboys.

1769
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:36,920
Speaker 2: This officer there would even more.

1770
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:39,679
Speaker 5: Like Ady Mitchell, who is a lot of people's wide

1771
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 5: receiver four or five, is still there and was commonly

1772
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 5: mocked to the Bills, including I think by you, Mark,

1773
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 5: because I think that was the one pick you and

1774
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 5: Walker had the same and they could still take him

1775
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 5: there at at thirty three. I do think Worthy though,

1776
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 5: it's gonna end up being a big part of our

1777
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:58,439
Speaker 5: lives because he's with the Chiefs and he's he's not

1778
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 5: John Ross, he's not Henry Ruggs. To me like he's

1779
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 5: a great route runner, Like he has real like lateral

1780
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 5: movement skills. Now can he survive like at that wait,

1781
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 5: that is a larger question, But he was on a

1782
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 5: team with another guy who's gonna get taken very early tomorrow,

1783
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 5: Ady Mitchell, and like Xavier Worthy was clearly the one,

1784
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:23,240
Speaker 5: and his speed just sort of made defenses have to

1785
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 5: approach them completely different.

1786
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 2: And I think he's gonna be a weapon.

1787
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 4: The Dallas Cowboys that picked twenty nine, they want to

1788
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 4: make that splash this season, but it just nothing seems

1789
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 4: to be going their way. They do end up with

1790
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:41,640
Speaker 4: Tyler Geitton, who is a very big, very physical, very

1791
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 4: fast and athletically gifted tackle prospect out of Oklahoma. But

1792
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:48,800
Speaker 4: another guy like Mims that we were talking about, only

1793
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 4: fifteen college starts. He's seen as a raw prospect and

1794
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 4: for a team that's very much all in now, there's

1795
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 4: a little bit of a gamble here that can you

1796
01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 4: get him up to speed and have him be a

1797
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 4: contributor right now actually within a hole on the line

1798
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:03,600
Speaker 4: after Tyron Smith.

1799
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:07,040
Speaker 5: Now supposedly they really wanted to tackle and Graham Barton

1800
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:10,479
Speaker 5: it was a tackle on college, but some people see

1801
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 5: him more as a center into your alignment and the pros.

1802
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 5: But like that was like our guy, Nate Tice, one

1803
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 5: of his very favorite players in the draft, thought he's

1804
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 5: been way overlooked, like a top fifteen player, just going

1805
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:24,680
Speaker 5: to be as safe a pick as you could possibly have,

1806
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:26,640
Speaker 5: a guy that can play right away. And they end

1807
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 5: up trading out of that pick when people thought they

1808
01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:30,840
Speaker 5: might take him, maybe hoping he'd fall to twenty nine,

1809
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 5: and instead they get a guy who kind of looks

1810
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:35,720
Speaker 5: like a project. And they need guys to play right away,

1811
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:37,800
Speaker 5: and Guyton is supposed to be one of those guys

1812
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 5: that might need a year or two to develop.

1813
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 6: I like what the Cardinals did too, by the way,

1814
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 6: Darius Robinson. But I go back to Graham Barton. I

1815
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:48,599
Speaker 6: think Graham Barton is the Bucks took him, is one

1816
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:50,759
Speaker 6: of the more intriguing a lignement in this entire draft.

1817
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 6: And we talked about a couple of shows. Ago can

1818
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 6: play all over the place. I think that's the steal

1819
01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 6: for the Bucks. I thought he was going to go

1820
01:23:58,120 --> 01:23:59,759
Speaker 6: to Philadelphia if they didn't go cornerback.

1821
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 5: Light's been think you good remaking their offensive line, and

1822
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 5: the picks don't always look good like the first year,

1823
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:10,559
Speaker 5: Like Gadeki didn't look great the first year, and then

1824
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 5: it looks pretty good a year or two later.

1825
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 2: He's done a nice job.

1826
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:16,799
Speaker 4: The Ravens take Nate Wiggins, the cornerback at at Clemson.

1827
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:20,719
Speaker 4: The Niners take Ricky Piersall, the wide receiver out of Florida.

1828
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:25,720
Speaker 4: That sounds very spicy potentially in that offense, and you know,

1829
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:28,639
Speaker 4: more questions about what's the future in that wide receiver

1830
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:32,840
Speaker 4: room because you're just adding another big time player or

1831
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 4: a first round pick, and you already have Deebo Samuel

1832
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 4: there still obviously Brandon Aiyuk there, there's still room for

1833
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 4: them all.

1834
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 2: Greg you but just keep an eye on and the Panthers.

1835
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 4: Then they have the first pick of the second round,

1836
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 4: but they say, no, we want to get into the

1837
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 4: first round, so they trade with the Bills. You trade

1838
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:54,639
Speaker 4: out of the first round entirely, and they take Xavier

1839
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 4: Loget wide receiver out of South Carolina, the final wide

1840
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 4: receiver taken tons of wide receivers seven in the first round.

1841
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:05,679
Speaker 2: Thoughts well, the purece all pick.

1842
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 5: I was really keeping an eye on when that went

1843
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:11,719
Speaker 5: on the board, because earlier in the day Tom Currn

1844
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:14,479
Speaker 5: put out there on one of his shows just just

1845
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 5: talking that the Patriots have been working on an Ayuk trade.

1846
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 5: That yea, it's not definitive, but when the forty nine

1847
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 5: ers get on the board, keep an eye. If they

1848
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 5: take a wide receiver, then we might be talking a

1849
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 5: lot on Friday, whether the Patriots end up trading that

1850
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 5: number thirty four overall pick they have the number two

1851
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 5: pick in the second round as part of a brand

1852
01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 5: in AYUK trade.

1853
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 2: John Lynch, you know, laughed it off a little bit.

1854
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 5: They asked him about a press conference Thursday night, seeing

1855
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 5: why are we always the ones that you know, people

1856
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:46,799
Speaker 5: are talking about with trades, which is not a denial,

1857
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:51,679
Speaker 5: and it wasn't as specific, but Mike Silver and Diani

1858
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 5: Rassini separately reported on Thursday that the forty nine ers

1859
01:25:56,920 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 5: had been offering Ayuk and or Deebo Samuel in different trades.

1860
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:04,960
Speaker 5: They said, maybe trying to get way up in the draft,

1861
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:06,679
Speaker 5: like trying to get to the top ten. That clearly

1862
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 5: didn't happen. That was before the draft, but it really

1863
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 5: makes it sound like they're open to trading. I mean, man,

1864
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:15,760
Speaker 5: if the Patriots could get that.

1865
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 6: Do that, I thought that it certainly seems strong they

1866
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 6: were trying to get up into the first round to

1867
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:22,800
Speaker 6: make a move to get a different type of wide

1868
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:25,559
Speaker 6: receiver somewhere else if they're gonna trade one of those guys.

1869
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:27,560
Speaker 6: But throwing debo in there, that kind of threw me

1870
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 6: for a loop that they're both available. I don't think

1871
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:31,840
Speaker 6: they're both available, but right one on the other.

1872
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:35,160
Speaker 5: Out they're available. That is that is pretty wild, and

1873
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 5: that would be a salary cap is a real trade.

1874
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 5: If they traded Ayuk for the thirty second or the

1875
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 5: thirty fourth overall pick that they thought, uh whoever was

1876
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:47,560
Speaker 5: on the board would be worth it. Pearsall's more of

1877
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:49,880
Speaker 5: like a vertical slot guy. You know, got a let

1878
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:51,479
Speaker 5: them pop from Harmon on our wide receiver.

1879
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:53,639
Speaker 2: Sure he's also he's.

1880
01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 6: A twenty four year old rookie, but I don't you know, again,

1881
01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:57,679
Speaker 6: get them for four years.

1882
01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 5: So college football and now it's gonna kind of is

1883
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 5: so weird with the COVID year thing.

1884
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:05,479
Speaker 2: Right, Right, you've got a lot of older rookies.

1885
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:11,080
Speaker 5: Jade and Daniels was once throwing to Ricky pearsaw right

1886
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:14,439
Speaker 5: at Arizona State. Okay, that's not that crazy. Sure in

1887
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:17,519
Speaker 5: Brandon Ayuk, it's like what branded Ayuk's been in the NFL.

1888
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:19,679
Speaker 5: It feels like for a long time Jade and Daniels

1889
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 5: was throwing to I don't know.

1890
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 2: What's what's going And also Steve Steve Smith senior, he

1891
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:25,680
Speaker 2: threw to him too.

1892
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:29,000
Speaker 5: And none of them on the team that you associate

1893
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:32,160
Speaker 5: them with. It was Herman Edwards Arizona State team.

1894
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:35,479
Speaker 4: All right, there you go, that's the first thirty two.

1895
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:37,800
Speaker 4: Why don't we check in Mark. You had your Mox

1896
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:41,599
Speaker 4: Sessler Mark draft. What were the results? Let's bring it up.

1897
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:44,040
Speaker 2: What do we got here?

1898
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:45,560
Speaker 4: All right, so you're going three for three out of

1899
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 4: the gate, I think pretty much everybody did, uh, where

1900
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:51,719
Speaker 4: do you got bow knicks to the Broncos? Nice?

1901
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 2: You had him at twenty seven. Just for everyone listening,

1902
01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 2: we also have and he went, well, I believe, but

1903
01:27:57,360 --> 01:28:03,280
Speaker 2: we're giving you that obviously, and neighbors Giants, Moleak, neighbors

1904
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 2: to the New York And also we got the Saints.

1905
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 2: Pick there, Oh you got Talise four. I got to

1906
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 2: the Saint that's one nice but overall, hum drum, let's

1907
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:13,439
Speaker 2: be honest, sort of a failure. So you got not

1908
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:15,599
Speaker 2: up to my one, two three? You got five out

1909
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 2: of thirty two? Is that quick? Six? Because you got

1910
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy. It was later put that counts one two, three.

1911
01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 6: Four, five six seven. I see what you guys are

1912
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 6: trying to do. Seven four plus one plus one plus

1913
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 6: one is seven seven. Wait, I don't I still don't

1914
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:33,879
Speaker 6: see the seven because you're colorblind.

1915
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 2: I'm not making fun of you. You told us.

1916
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 6: But the one in the middle, the Saints one, it

1917
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:39,120
Speaker 6: looks like the other ones because it's Saints colors. But

1918
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:41,800
Speaker 6: it's like I got that the four or then the

1919
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:45,439
Speaker 6: Giants that's five. Then in the middle column, okay, that's

1920
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 6: the Saints.

1921
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:48,559
Speaker 4: That's number six and the or bright orange broncos Bone

1922
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 4: next to seven This is great Part.

1923
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty five. Can we keep in mind that one

1924
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 2: of the hosts color that was not tough. It's just

1925
01:28:58,360 --> 01:28:59,439
Speaker 2: a tough addition.

1926
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:02,000
Speaker 4: So seven out of thirty two, I feel like that's

1927
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 4: that's probably around industry average, I would guess.

1928
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I think some stuff, you know, I had

1929
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:10,800
Speaker 2: also for the show, and it's not if you if

1930
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 2: I had to, like, you know, with a gun in

1931
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:14,320
Speaker 2: my head, I had like eighteen trades in the first round,

1932
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:15,760
Speaker 2: and a lot of that stuff just did not have I.

1933
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:17,559
Speaker 7: Thought Mark was going to sneak in one with Buffalo

1934
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:19,519
Speaker 7: with Mitchell in the last couple of picks. I thought

1935
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 7: I was going to sneak in one more.

1936
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:22,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the Bills are like, we're We're determined to

1937
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:25,040
Speaker 2: win six games. They ruined. They ruined my niece's night.

1938
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:27,559
Speaker 7: She watched the draft for the first time, a new

1939
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 7: Buffalo fan or new to understand what's going on.

1940
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:32,040
Speaker 4: Well, they're giving her a heads up of what to

1941
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:34,840
Speaker 4: expect over the next eighty All Night got a video

1942
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:37,040
Speaker 4: taped it Wednesday.

1943
01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:42,200
Speaker 5: It's pretty you know, relatively early on. There's some you know,

1944
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:44,880
Speaker 5: last minute reporting that you probably would have changed them.

1945
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:46,519
Speaker 4: It's kind of cheating the people that put out the

1946
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:48,559
Speaker 4: mock draft after the last second report.

1947
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I refuse to do that. I don't see

1948
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:51,120
Speaker 2: a lot of And you.

1949
01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:56,800
Speaker 4: Know what, you absolutely destroyed my son, Walker Rosenthal.

1950
01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 2: I mean, like on the tennis courts had children.

1951
01:29:59,400 --> 01:29:59,720
Speaker 3: I wasn't.

1952
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:00,800
Speaker 2: That was my main goal.

1953
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:07,320
Speaker 5: But he, you know, it kind of chicken scratches. I

1954
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:09,040
Speaker 5: love that he's so committed to his mock draft. He

1955
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:10,880
Speaker 5: would not let me take it in or even write

1956
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:12,839
Speaker 5: on it, but I did take a picture and highlight

1957
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:14,599
Speaker 5: he got two picks right.

1958
01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:18,439
Speaker 2: He got Caleb Williams and Marvin Harrison right, and that's it. Now.

1959
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:22,439
Speaker 2: He made this two weeks ago, so that that was especial. Wait,

1960
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:24,559
Speaker 2: he should have done a two point zero. He didn't.

1961
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:28,320
Speaker 2: He didn't want to surprise. He loves this stuff. Well

1962
01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:28,680
Speaker 2: he was.

1963
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:33,560
Speaker 5: He was doing mock draft simulators just on like websites

1964
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 5: over and over repeatedly.

1965
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:36,640
Speaker 2: But that was his one. Not a lot of nine

1966
01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:38,559
Speaker 2: year olds are getting any of these rights.

1967
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:42,400
Speaker 4: So maybe this I think you can and I'm sure

1968
01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:44,640
Speaker 4: you did let him know because he did disappoint you,

1969
01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:49,160
Speaker 4: I know, but that doing a final mock draft two

1970
01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:51,639
Speaker 4: weeks before is okay, way behind the eight ball.

1971
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:54,360
Speaker 2: That's a good point when when your your competitor did

1972
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 2: it the day before the draft.

1973
01:30:56,760 --> 01:30:59,360
Speaker 5: I I admired tonight. He was taking notes and he

1974
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:02,080
Speaker 5: was writing all the picks as they were happening.

1975
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 2: With He loves it, he is. I enjoyed it. A

1976
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 2: certified young super fit. That's what the NFL craves. They

1977
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:10,840
Speaker 2: you are craving what he's offering.

1978
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 4: All right, we hope you craved what we had to

1979
01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:19,719
Speaker 4: offer on today's episode. We will be back on Saturday.

1980
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:23,800
Speaker 4: So Friday, we're gonna let it all soak in round

1981
01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:29,479
Speaker 4: two and three, and then Saturday four, five, six, seven,

1982
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:33,120
Speaker 4: we will be recording that afternoon here from Los Angeles

1983
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:36,559
Speaker 4: and have something up for you shortly after the draft

1984
01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 4: wraps up.

1985
01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:39,840
Speaker 2: And that's it. That's it. That's a good that's a

1986
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:43,439
Speaker 2: good rundown of round one. I feel like we did.

1987
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:44,720
Speaker 2: I agree we needed to do.

1988
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:48,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, someone's got to take our guy Cooper to Jean

1989
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:49,280
Speaker 4: whatever happened to him.

1990
01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:52,680
Speaker 2: He's going tomorrow Hill Tomorrow. He the call