1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: The most valuable commodity I know of is information. 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 2: Wouldn't you agree? Five five dollars? This is a ratable level. 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: How they tackled. You're saying that humans need fantasy to 4 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: make life bearable. Humans need fantasy to be human? Oh 5 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: my goodness, that mistake. Nice, prone, the best, relentless, refusing 6 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: to give up. 7 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: All right, hit that horn, very bless. 8 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: What's the everybody happy? Howadays? From the Fantasy Flex podcast 9 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: from the Action Network. In Fantasy Ads, I'm your host, 10 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 2: Chris Raybon. This is NFL Week seventeen, our player projections episode. 11 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,279 Speaker 2: We're gonna go over each position, guys that we are 12 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 2: high and low on our top five, as well as 13 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: throughout some props. And as always, I am joined by 14 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: the most accurate rankor the game, the oddsmaker, Sean Kerner, 15 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: Sean Happy house days, how's it going? 16 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 3: Happy Holidays going well? Happy Finals week? This is Championship week. 17 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 3: Kind of a bizarre schedule. I'm I guess you'd call 18 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 3: it discombobulated with two games tomorrow, but our projections are 19 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 3: going to be as sharp as ever and hopefully we 20 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 3: can bring home some ships this week. 21 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 2: Hell yeah, and we'll get it started. With QB and 22 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 2: top five for week eighteen, I mean week seventeen championship. 23 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 2: We used to be in the Week sixteen. But yeah, 24 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: what's your top five for week number seventeen. 25 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: Let's see. 26 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 3: I got Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Jaden Daniels, Joe Burrow, 27 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 3: and Jalen Hurts assuming he suits up. 28 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got Alan Jackson, Daniels, Burrow, and Mayfield and 29 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: then Hurts sixth because I'm just docking him a little bit. 30 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, if he if he's good to go, he 31 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: would overtake Baker for that fifth spot. Who you high on? 32 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 3: I'm high on Justin Herbert this week, coming off a 33 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 3: nice two hundred and eighty four yard game, two touchdowns, 34 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 3: but he also tripped in twenty eight rushing yards, and 35 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 3: he's been nursing that ankle injury. I know you were 36 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 3: on his under on his rushing prop a couple weeks ago. 37 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 3: He had zero yards, So it was just nice to see. 38 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 3: It was just nice to see him, you know, using 39 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 3: his legs a bit more. Maybe the ankle's feeling better, 40 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 3: and now that you know, they played Thursday night, so 41 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 3: he should have plenty of time to probably be closer 42 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 3: to one hundred percent for their game on Saturday, So 43 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 3: I'm assuming he'll be able to tap into his rushing 44 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 3: upside a bit more here, which is always nice for 45 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 3: his fans value. But you know this, this is a 46 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 3: game where he might not need to throw or throw 47 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 3: for you know, over two hundred eighty yards against the Patriots, 48 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 3: but I think he has a decent bet here to 49 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 3: throw for multiple touchdowns. I'll talk about it later, but 50 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 3: I think this was a great spot for lad McConkey two. 51 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 3: So I'm a little bit higher on Herbert than normal. 52 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: This is in New England. From what I could tell, 53 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: there's no weather. 54 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 3: Again, it's early in the week, so we have to 55 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 3: double check that, but assuming if the weather holes, he'll 56 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 3: be inside my top twelve for this week. 57 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh. I think there's a bunch of sharp 58 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 2: money coming in on the Patriots, so could be a 59 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,679 Speaker 2: closer game which would benefit the passing game as well. 60 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 2: But yeah, McConkey has to go off because that's that's 61 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 2: themand beater right there. He's p trbably gonna go for 62 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: like a buck fifty, all right. I like bow knicks. 63 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 2: This week he's going up against the Bengals defense, and 64 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 2: the Bengals defense is not good, one of the worst 65 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: defenses in the league. Twenty seventh against the pass in DVOA, 66 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 2: and I went back and looked at all bone Knicks 67 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 2: the stars this year and broke them up into the 68 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: ones against above average pass defenses in DVOA and the 69 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: ones against below average. So against the above average he faced 70 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 2: eight the Broncos average nineteeen point six points per game, 71 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: bow Knicks averaged one hundred and ninety nine passing yards 72 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 2: with five point nine yards in a tep nine touchdowns, 73 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: nine picks. Not very good against below average pass defenses 74 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: seven matchups twenty nine point four points per game for 75 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 2: the Broncos bow Knicks two hundred and thirty four yards 76 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 2: per game, thirteen touchdowns, two picks, three more rushing touchdowns 77 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 2: also seven to zh straight up and against the spread. 78 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 2: So it's just a completely different quarterback when playing against 79 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 2: a bad defense. That's when Sean Payton can kind of 80 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: hold his hand, and Sean Payton came out just in 81 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 2: his bag on that Thursday night game. That game really 82 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: turned when they had to free kick for the first 83 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 2: time in what like four decades, but just his play 84 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 2: calling on those first couple of drives, and now he's 85 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,239 Speaker 2: got extra time to prepare for one of the worst 86 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: defenses in the league. So I think this is going 87 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: to be another good bow Knicks spot here and maybe 88 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: even get into a little shootout with Joe Burrow on 89 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 2: the other side. 90 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been nice to see his rushing stats come 91 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 3: back back to about games with twenty more rushing yards 92 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 3: with multiple touchdowns in both games too. So yeah, he's 93 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 3: he's definitely solidified himself as a top ten option this week. 94 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: All Right, who. 95 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 2: Are you low on at the quarterback position for Week seventeen? 96 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 3: Well, you definitely snipe the guy I'm really low on, 97 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna double up on who you give out. 98 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 3: But I'm gonna go with Matthew Stafford here. And you know, 99 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 3: he's tricky because any given week he can go off 100 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 3: for you know, three hundred yards multiple touchdowns, but he 101 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 3: has zero rushing upside and just a lower floor if 102 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 3: the Rams do get into a leading run heavy game 103 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 3: script like we've seen the past two weeks, I mean, 104 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 3: his floor is down there. So he's had a rough 105 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 3: stretch here, but this this is another game the Rams 106 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 3: are six point favorites, so they should be able to 107 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 3: get away just leaning on the run game here, leaning 108 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 3: on their defense. So you know, Stafford has a lower 109 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 3: floor this week. He's still you know, a solid option 110 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 3: I think in two QB super flex formats, but ideally 111 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 3: you're not banking on him in one quarterback leagues where 112 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 3: sometimes you know he has the upside to be you know, 113 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 3: my top twelve, but right now he's down to QB seventeen. 114 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:54,559 Speaker 3: So this is a week where I think he's more 115 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 3: for like two QB leagues. 116 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Rams are four point four percent below passwork 117 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: below expectation, and that's kind of trending in the wrong 118 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 2: direction if you want to start Stafford, because they are 119 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: just spamming Kyron Williams, just giving him, you know, as 120 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 2: many carries as he can possibly handle. And they're doing 121 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: it though, like there's actually I think it was a 122 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago. Oh it was against the Saints 123 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 2: when Sean McVay apparently told his team at halftime that 124 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 2: he was just gonna call like a run after run 125 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 2: in the second half. And he's been doing that pretty 126 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 2: much ever since the left part of that Bills game. 127 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 2: But Yeah, it's you know, that's the work to do. 128 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been working, has been playing great. 129 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 3: But just so you guys know, you guys do have 130 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 3: a third round talented rookie who can you know, spell 131 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 3: him a little bit more if you so choose. 132 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 2: He gets his five to six carries. Yeah, you know 133 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 2: of the thirty five man. Uh yeah, I'm all on 134 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 2: Jordan Love. I'm guessing you are as well. He's the 135 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: top ten quarterback in expert consensus. He's my quarterback eighteen 136 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 2: against Minnesota. And it's not really a knock on Love, 137 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 2: but Green Bay has just become so run heavy and 138 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 2: they can run on anybody. So yes, it's a It's 139 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 2: one of the few teams that beat them this year. 140 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 2: I actually think they're in a good They might be 141 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: the better team now, you know. Ever since that game, 142 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: those two teams have kind of been going a little 143 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: bit in opposite directions. The Packers have been getting even better. 144 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 2: The Vikings been coming down to earth a little bit, 145 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 2: even though it doesn't show on their record. So I 146 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 2: like Jordan Love here to not finish quite as you know, 147 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: high high floor as he's been doing. You know, Vikens 148 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 2: still do have a very good defense, But more so, 149 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 2: it's just this team is running the football and so 150 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: you're not gonna have as many chances with Jordan Love 151 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 2: and you're kind of banking on touchdown variants to go 152 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 2: his way. And this is a divisional you know, second 153 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 2: divisional matchup might not be as high scoring as the 154 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 2: first one, even though it is indoors. So yeah, Jordan Love, 155 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: he's he's my QB eighteen to open the week. 156 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: Where do you have them twenty one? I don't like 157 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: it either. 158 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 3: If you will the first matchup, if you're for like 159 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 3: four hundred yards and four touchdowns, like you said, it's 160 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 3: not really knock against him. They just have a lower 161 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 3: team total. The running game is really cooking right now. 162 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 3: That's why I was on his under nineteen and a 163 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 3: half completions last night. I had nothing to do with him, 164 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 3: and he was checking it down quite a bit. So yeah, 165 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 3: it just doesn't have as much upside this week. And 166 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 3: he's one of those quarterbacks doesn't really off your rushing floor. 167 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 3: So if he doesn't throw for multiple touchdowns, you know 168 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 3: you could be caught holding the bag this week. 169 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 170 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 2: I also think Sam Darnold is kind of getting lucky. 171 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 2: On some turnovers, like if he turns the ball over, 172 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 2: that could just be shorter fields, or you know, you 173 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 2: have a defensive score just what you don't want to 174 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 2: just like yeah, just a little factors kind of working 175 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 2: against him that has them kind of out outside that 176 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: normal top twelve fifteen. All right, what are we doing 177 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: for the quarterback? 178 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 1: Prop? 179 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I got a fun one for you. 180 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 3: So we're going this is an Anthony Richardson prop. Okay, 181 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 3: they're playing the Giants this week. I don't even know 182 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 3: if they're gonna have to throw the ball in this game. 183 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 3: Let's with his completions. Prop okay, And I think I 184 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 3: think I know what it will be in the book, 185 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 3: but I won't give out that number. 186 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: I'm going to give out eleven and a half. 187 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, yeah, the books will probably open what like 188 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 2: fourteen and a half. I think. 189 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 3: No, if it's fourteen, that is enough to make some calls. 190 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: No way they offer fourteen and a half. 191 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 2: Really, that's what I've been doing every week. Oh I guess, yeah, 192 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: it'll be lower now because they. 193 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 3: Have to give it thirteen and a half. I think 194 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 3: that I think they will make it twelve and a half. 195 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 3: And like the underwly plus money or something. But I'm 196 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 3: I'm offering you eleven and a half and seeing which 197 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 3: way you want to go. 198 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going over that. As much as I as 199 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 2: much as I do not like Anthony Richardson's passing skills 200 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 2: as a NFL quarterback, I mean I still have it 201 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 2: around thirteen. You know this, it's I mean, yeah, was 202 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: he seven of eleven last week? It's it's on the road, 203 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 2: but it's in. It isn't a life, so you could 204 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 2: have some win, but man, come back from seven, you 205 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: got you got a rebound from seven, right, that's just regression. 206 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: He had seventeen against on the road against Denver. So 207 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 2: I think, I mean, really, what I think it might 208 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 2: happen is the Colts. They could come out a little 209 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 2: flat here, you know what I mean. They had the 210 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 2: big they had the big lead against Tennessee and then 211 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 2: they kind of sat on the ball. But now they 212 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 2: could be in a position where they have to win 213 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 2: and you know, on the road, teammate should be. You 214 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 2: could come out a little tight. So I think they 215 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 2: might end up in a game script where they need 216 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 2: to throw it more than eleven times. Oh my god, 217 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 2: how how bad of the Titans. 218 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: This is really just it's more. 219 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: Of a tight indictment on the Titans because he could 220 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 2: play at sixty three point six percent of his passes 221 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 2: last week. 222 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was in the discord offer I was offering 223 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 3: live props of like the Colts first play the next drive. 224 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: Run. 225 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 3: I gave it minus two. I don't even know what 226 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 3: number it is, but I had like nine zeros and 227 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 3: then I had a pass a rich drop back to 228 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 3: The pass was like plus one with like ten zeros, 229 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 3: and yeah, they ran it. And the Titans were just baffled, like, 230 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 3: oh my god, like Jonathan Taylor ran it. Oh, Anthony 231 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 3: Richardson kept it like just to have one guy back, 232 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 3: make Anthony Richardson throw the ball fifteen yards in the 233 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 3: air and complete a pass like I don't know to 234 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 3: tell you, no. 235 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 2: Stuck, Stucky put it best. 236 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: He said. 237 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 2: The Titans are a point shame in operation, and it's 238 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 2: gotta be There's no there's no way they continue to 239 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 2: do this like this is I mean, what do they 240 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 2: do get score seven and then and give up thirty 241 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 2: eighth straight I mean and. 242 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: Then almost backdoor cover again. 243 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, yeah, that's what they they got to 244 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 2: be a point shame in operation. They know how to 245 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 2: play football, but they wait until they dig themselves into 246 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 2: into a hole that they can't not only win but cover. 247 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 3: So it's it's just well, Bill Levis was the head 248 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 3: of the operation in my opinion. 249 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: But that's the crazy thing is like you sub him out. 250 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 2: He was so bad. Anthony Richardson was wor like statistically 251 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: worse than a much worse than Rudolph. And yet they 252 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 2: they're down thirty one points. Yeah somehow, so yeah, gotta 253 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: be gotta be all right, Let's go to running back 254 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,359 Speaker 2: Top five Week seventeen. 255 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh man, I love this top five. 256 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 3: Jamira Gibbs number one, uh Saquon Barkley, Chase Brown, Josh Jacobs, 257 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 3: and Derrick Henry. 258 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 2: I got h Saquon Gibbs, Brown, Kyron Williams, and John Robinson. 259 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: Nice no difference. 260 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 2: Bit, Yeah, I mean I do have him playing a 261 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 2: bunch more early early downs. But what was playing in Texas? 262 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: Right? 263 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, Texans are pretty decent defense. I mean, I know 264 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 2: they got some issues on the back end now, but 265 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 2: one of the better defenses, you know, not like a 266 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 2: smash spot, but yeah, I mean Kyrich is getting so 267 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 2: many carries that he's just jumping up and then gijon 268 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 2: against that Washington Rundy like that too. So yeah, we 269 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: got a good spots this week. 270 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, who are you high on? I'm high on Aaron Jones. 271 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 1: You know, his usage has been up and down lately. 272 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 3: He was a guy who was down on a few 273 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 3: weeks ago just because you know, he was benched in 274 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 3: game due to his ongoing fumbling issues. But last week 275 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 3: he was in that true workhorse role, dominated both the 276 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 3: you know, the rushing usage and passing usage, and can 277 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 3: Makers saw the fewest steps since joining the Vikings last week, 278 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 3: So I think that trend continues here in what's just 279 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 3: a massive divisional game against the Packers. 280 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: So it's a revenge game for. 281 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 3: Jones, and we saw them giving him a spike in 282 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 3: usage that week. I think the coaching staff realized, you know, 283 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 3: it's a revenge game, let's get him extra work. And 284 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 3: he you know, totaled over one hundred and thirty yards 285 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 3: of that game, so he's going to be up for 286 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 3: this game. He's getting that massive workload. So yeah, he's 287 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 3: low end RB one for me this week, and another 288 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 3: guy that's a low end RB one. He's actually my 289 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 3: top ten I think for the first time this year. 290 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 3: It was one of my favorite rookie running backs landing spots. 291 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 3: This here, Bucky Irving, and I thought I was, like, 292 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 3: you know, he might push Rashad White to be more 293 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 3: of a fifty to fifty committee, which he did very 294 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 3: early on. But I didn't see him be being this 295 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 3: freaking good and just basically taking over as the workhorse 296 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 3: back even with Rashad White healthy. You know, last week 297 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 3: he saw his highest share of rush attempts and continues 298 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 3: to see enough routes to average, you know, around three 299 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 3: catches a game. That's what I thought he was gonna be. 300 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 3: I thought he was gonna be more of a pass 301 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 3: catching back, So I think he can do it all. 302 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 3: And now that Rashad White had that, you know, that 303 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 3: really costly fumble at the end of the game, I 304 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 3: think he's gonna get even. 305 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: More work this week and it's against the Panthers. 306 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 3: So he is a top ten running back in Championship week. 307 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: I could not be happier about that. 308 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's actually funny because you know, because I always 309 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 2: see we see each other's projections in the sheet, and 310 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 2: I just remember last week. I think it was like 311 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 2: just seeing your Bucky Irving carry projection like go up 312 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 2: as a week for rest like stuff out of like 313 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: ten point nine, it's like twelve point eight. 314 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 3: He's been dealing with that. He's been dealing with that, Uh, 315 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 3: that stupid back injury. 316 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: Right. 317 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 3: So just the more good reports I get, the more 318 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 3: I'm gonna bump it up. But yeah, Buckets are of 319 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 3: those players where the more I look at him, the 320 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 3: more I watch him, the more I love him. 321 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: He's just so good. 322 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 3: I know you were talking about like the longest rush 323 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 3: for him, like every week he did that every week. 324 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, he just busts off a long like I think 325 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 2: he had like forty three yard three out of four 326 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 2: games or something. Yeah, just ridiculous. Uh, I'm I own 327 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 2: Brian Robinson Junior. This week he is going against the 328 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 2: Falcons home favorite, and you know he with alsin Eckler out. 329 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: I don't think a lot of people realize that he's 330 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 2: seen a pretty decent uptick in passing game usage. So 331 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 2: he's at about forty eight fifty route rate in the 332 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 2: two games since the buy, and that's kind of around 333 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 2: the number Eckward was getting he's catching you know, two 334 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 2: three balls instead of his usual like one catch for 335 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 2: eight yards, so that kind of helps his his floor 336 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 2: a little bit. And then you have him getting about 337 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 2: eighty percent of the backfield touches in competitive games. And 338 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 2: this is a game of a four point spread home favorite. 339 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 2: So I know there's been a lot, like a lot 340 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 2: of variants with some blowouts, some McNichols, Rodriguez, but in 341 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 2: these more competitive games, and if they blow him out, 342 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 2: Robinson should be a big part of the reason why anyway, 343 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 2: So I like him in this spot. He's kind of 344 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 2: been quiet, hasn't really been talked about, but still one 345 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: of the more talented backs when you look when you 346 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: watch the tape on this on the season, still running strong. 347 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 2: So I like him with the no ekwer in that 348 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 2: Washington backfield. So he's the top He's the top fifteen 349 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 2: back for me this week. All right, let's go to 350 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 2: running backs. We are low on who you got. 351 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 3: I got Tony Pollard, who's you know, just been playing 352 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 3: through a nagging inkle injury for it seems like months now. 353 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 3: And I figured last week, you know, we could see 354 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 3: Tadre Spears start to see more work just considering it 355 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,239 Speaker 3: doesn't make sense to keep giving Pollard massive workloads when 356 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 3: he's clearly nine hundred percent. They have nothing to play for, yeah, 357 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 3: I mean other than the point shaving operation, I guess. 358 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: But you know, last week. 359 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 3: Powler saw a season low and rush attempt chare only 360 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 3: rushed eight times. 361 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: I think that continues this week. 362 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 3: Maybe we see them, you know, more of a fifty 363 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 3: to fifty committee going forward. 364 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: But he could bounce back here. 365 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 3: This is a you know, an easy spot of course 366 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 3: against the Jaguars. But again, I think if they're splitting 367 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 3: the workload, there's just not enough to go around to 368 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 3: really like Pollard, So you know, I think he's a 369 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 3: dicey running back three flex option as opposed to that 370 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 3: he was a fringe RB one for quite a bit 371 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 3: of this season. I think he helped a lot of 372 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 3: people get to the playoffs, but I think it might 373 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 3: be time to let somebody else take you to the 374 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 3: championship if you have other options. But I'm just a 375 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 3: little bit lower on Pollar this week than I usually 376 00:17:59,560 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 3: I am. 377 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 2: Guy never practices like d MP Wednesdayday Friday. But the 378 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 2: thing I'm scared about is so I saw somebody talking 379 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 2: about how you know somebody Titans beat, right. Our movement 380 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 2: was that he has a bunch of like incentives that yeah, 381 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 2: the reach, so like I don't I hope they weren't 382 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 2: just rested them last game and now they're gonna they're 383 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 2: gonna bust, like because the Titans would do some some 384 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 2: like yeah nonsensical crap like that. So yeah, I got 385 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 2: make sure you kind of keep up on that because 386 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 2: I don't know, he has like a bunch of incentives 387 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 2: within reach, like scrimmage yard, rushing yards, touchdowns. I think 388 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 2: he's got two more touchdowns. I think he needs like 389 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 2: a get something for eleven and thirteen hundred scrimmage yards. 390 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 2: So yeah, there's it's that's good. 391 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they probably want to let him try to 392 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 3: get those. Maybe that's why he's plowing through this injury. Yeah, 393 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 3: that's that's good, and that maybe that's why I'm just 394 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 3: kind of highlighting as the guy that we need to 395 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 3: like circle back on later in the week. 396 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, low on him too. 397 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 3: I do you have like twenty Yeah, that's that's where 398 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 3: I have him. And it sucks because again, like for 399 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 3: a lot of the season, he was you know, pushing 400 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 3: RB one value so I could see how people just 401 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 3: get complacent just starting him no matter what, which I 402 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 3: don't fault you, but right now it's kind of murky. 403 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 3: But with these incentives that that could make sense. Why 404 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 3: you know, he's pushing through this ankle injury, wants to 405 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 3: get you know, a couple more touchdowns, more yards. So yeah, 406 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 3: that could be a reason for him to you know, 407 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 3: put up more good numbers this week. 408 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess the Titans, who knows, who knows? But yeah, 409 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 2: I agree, he's trying to figure that rejected. Yeah, he 410 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 2: should be projected lower because Spears did heavily cut in 411 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 2: last week. A couple kind of similar situations minus the injuries. 412 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 2: But Naji Harris is the guy on one one. He's 413 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 2: still just right outside the top three. He's my RB 414 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 2: thirty six. He's trended down because he had that fumble 415 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago, and you know, now he's 416 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 2: in a position where he's he really started to lose 417 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 2: the grip on that backfield. To Jalen Warren, it started 418 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 2: with the passing down work was going lower and lower 419 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 2: each week, and then it started the carries, and you know, 420 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 2: he was getting sixty percent of the backfield carries and 421 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 2: then fifty five and fifty two and it's it's just 422 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 2: getting lower and lower. Now you're facing a Chiefs defense 423 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,959 Speaker 2: that is very, very good against the run, so it 424 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 2: favors more if you like a speedy back, a guy 425 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 2: who could create a little bit more that way in 426 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 2: Jalen Warren. And then Cordell Patterson's starting to mix in 427 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 2: a little too. 428 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: He got it. 429 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 2: He caught a touchdown last week as well, so it 430 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 2: you know, now she's kind of getting squeezed on both 431 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 2: ends here and he's just not you know, in the 432 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 2: past he was he would just kind of get these 433 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 2: you know, twenty twenty five carries and just power through it. 434 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 2: But now he's in the you know, the Chiefs. I mean, 435 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 2: it's a spot where the Steelers could pull off the upset, 436 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 2: but you know, getting those twenty carries is kind of 437 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 2: on the low end, low range of expectations this week, 438 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 2: and that's what he kind of needs without much passing 439 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 2: game work. And then Davante will I mean, he he's 440 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 2: the RB thirty four ECR. Why like every week we 441 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 2: see them purposely just not trying to give him carries. 442 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 2: But the Broncos literally scripted up like every single player 443 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 2: on their team, like except Davonte Williams to get like 444 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 2: multiple carries on their on their first five last week, 445 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 2: it was like nuts. So yeah, you know it's I 446 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 2: think it's gonna be a group effort, whether McLaughlin is 447 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 2: healthy or not. You know, they were using Blake Watson 448 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 2: like he was mcglauklin last week. So yeah, I think 449 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 2: Javonte is gonna continue to be the passing down back. 450 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 2: He's gonna get probably fifty percent of those snaps. But 451 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 2: that's you know, game strip to Pendict should be decent 452 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 2: in this game. But still, if you're not getting carries 453 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 2: as a running back, or at least not enough carries, 454 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 2: that's just not ideal, especially for a guy in the 455 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 2: top thirty six. I mean, I much rather have a 456 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 2: guy like ta J Spears that has more of that 457 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,959 Speaker 2: upside to you know, cut in and Davonte. I mean, 458 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 2: he's he's bad with not even two running backs. But 459 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 2: also Marvin Mims has taken a handful of snaps the 460 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 2: backfield every game now, So Davante Williams, I'm out on 461 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 2: him again this week. All right, let's go running back prop, 462 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 2: Let's go to the Chiefs backfield since we didn't talk 463 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 2: about that one. Oh, yes, we're talking about yeah, all. 464 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: Right, I've had time to make projections. Yeah, let's see 465 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 1: what you got. 466 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 2: You got all right? Uh so let's go with let's 467 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 2: just go with fantasy points. I'll make Isaiah Pacheco the 468 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 2: favorite by half a point over Kareem Mount. 469 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's that's a pretty good line. Half ppr, Yeah, 470 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 3: half ppr half point so one catch. I got Pat 471 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 3: Checko byero point nine, who would be so there, I'll 472 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 3: go with Pachecko. 473 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: So okay, I'm locking that in. 474 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 3: Who's more likely to get the goal line carry if 475 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 3: one arises, just whoever happens to be out there right probably. 476 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 2: I mean remember Pacheco always had those like yeah, yeah, 477 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 2: I think it's. 478 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 3: I noticed that, so I yeah, I lowered Pacheco's like touchdown, yeah, 479 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 3: projection and stuff, and I still have them like point nine. 480 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I think that's a great line. 481 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 3: Again, it just seems like they're kind of just rotating 482 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 3: him just by snaps, not even like situational. But I 483 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 3: think Pachecko is going to break out here over the 484 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 3: next couple of games, and he's playing time will probably 485 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 3: go up, so I'll just I'll lean him. But that's 486 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 3: that's a great line. It's probably a closer event should 487 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 3: be like people, yeah have a. 488 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 2: Point three, so like a consensus, which is like a 489 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 2: point one. 490 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: Oh so you haven't you haven't close? 491 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 3: But where are they because I have both, like just 492 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 3: outside of the my top thirty five. 493 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have Pacheco thirty four and Hunt thirty five. 494 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah right there. 495 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 3: If you were hanging on to Pacheco thinking you're going 496 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 3: to use him in the Fantasy Championship, uh, probably not right, 497 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, that's. 498 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 2: It's deeper or you're yeah, it's about eleven carries. Eleven 499 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 2: reason about catching a half? 500 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: Just yeah? 501 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, like it if it's between him and Jerome Ford, 502 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 3: that's an easy call Ford. But if it's him and 503 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 3: Javante Williams, obviously going to Checko or Hunt. 504 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 2: But yes, why are we doing this Givante Williams, Like 505 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 2: we saw, we saw what we needed to see, Like 506 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 2: like if the guy who was supposed to be the 507 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 2: starters out and Javante still wasn't getting carries, Like I 508 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 2: don't know. 509 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 3: I thought you're gonna offer that was a great prop 510 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 3: and and for like, that's probably a certain decision some 511 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 3: people need to make. I thought you're gonna give Javante 512 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 3: versus like Blake Watson and Marvin Men's rushing arts. 513 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 2: I would know. I was thinking of going like a 514 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 2: maybe like a Javante versus like Nasei or something like 515 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 2: all those all these backs who are kind of losing 516 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 2: their jobs. But I was like, we gotta do the 517 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 2: Chiefs just because it's the first game up, and it's yeah, 518 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 2: it's it's like a it was like a pretty much 519 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 2: fifty to fifty kind of thing if you just look 520 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 2: at the numbers. 521 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 3: So, yeah, Gavante, that's a total one Javante total touches 522 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 3: versus Anthony Richardson completions. 523 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 2: That's oh Anthony Richardson all day. 524 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 525 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 2: I don't know if they're gonna give him more than 526 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 2: like virus carries, especially if McLoughlin is healthy. 527 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: I don't know, Richardson, we'll see that. 528 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 2: Hey six six last week. 529 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 530 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 2: Looking for weekly projections from me and Sean Kerner. 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Just remember 540 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 2: to use code flex forty at checkout go to Wide Receiver. 541 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 2: Week seventeen, we got John Tough five. 542 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 3: Jamar, Chase Pukakua, Nico Collins, Justin Jefferson, Brian Thomas Junior, 543 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 3: baby number five. 544 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 2: Oh wow, Okay, it makes. 545 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: Some slight tweaks, but he's there. He's there now. 546 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 2: I got Chase Nicoua, Jefferson, Nico and uh A Monra 547 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 2: Saint Brown kind of trust that trustee. Yeah, he's probably 548 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 2: actually same. 549 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 3: Live, but it's so close I had to get I 550 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 3: had to give the tie to Brian Thomas. 551 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 2: Ruh, who are you? Who are you high on? I 552 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 2: guess I'm g Brian Thomas Junior. 553 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I'm Brian Thomas Junior. 554 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 3: So I'm highing two rookies that I think I targeted 555 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 3: the most adp just because they were two rookies. I 556 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 3: love their upside outside the top forty, and they're both 557 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 3: inside my top ten for championship weeks. So it could 558 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 3: not be better timing with these two guys. The first one, 559 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 3: of course, is Brian Thomas Jr. Who's actually my wide 560 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 3: receiver six has seven little there, but he was my 561 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 3: favorite rookie wide receivery. 562 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: Pompton the Randy Moss. 563 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 3: Didn't realize he was going to be actually like almost 564 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 3: as good as Randy Moss in your one. 565 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: But he's been great. 566 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 3: He's definitely benefited from you know, Christian Kirk, Gabe Davis, 567 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 3: and Evan Ingram all just missing a ton of time 568 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 3: this year. But he's overcome you know, poor quarterback play. 569 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 3: You know, he's had Mac Jones running the ball in 570 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 3: the past few games, so he's looked great. He's a 571 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 3: must start every week. For some reason, I saw people 572 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 3: debating him and like sit start calls. I don't know 573 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 3: what that's about. But if you have Brian Thomas Junior, 574 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 3: you're starting him, especially this week. I guess the one 575 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 3: concern would be, you know, the Jaguars are favorites. This week, 576 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 3: they're playing the Titans that can't stop anybody, so it'll 577 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 3: probably be a more run heavy game plan. Maybe you 578 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 3: know tink big SB traps Eten had big games, but 579 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 3: I still think, you know, Brian Thomas Junior is a 580 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 3: lot for a handful of catches. He has massive touchdown upside, 581 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 3: So I think if if you're in the finals, you 582 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 3: got trust this guy, roll him out there. And the 583 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 3: other rookie that's just having a fantastic season is lad McConkey. 584 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 3: You know, I knew he's a versatile receiver that could 585 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 3: eat up a lot of these targets left behind by 586 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 3: Kean Allen, Mike Williams, Austin Eckler, but he's just been 587 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 3: insanely good. Uh, and he's going to be a wide 588 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 3: receiver one option for years of comment looks like and 589 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 3: I love this week seventeen matchup. 590 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: You mentioned it. 591 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 3: He's the Chargers man beater and the Patriots used man 592 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 3: coverage at the second highest rate. Plus mcconkeye winds up 593 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 3: in the slot most of the time, so he should 594 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 3: be able to avoid Christian Gonzalez here, so I think 595 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 3: this is an excellent matchup. You know, he's averaging three 596 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 3: point four yards per out run against man, ranked six 597 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 3: among you know, qualified wide receivers. So he opens a 598 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 3: week as my wide receiver eight, and he's been banged 599 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 3: up a bit. Another guy that's gonna benefit from like 600 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 3: an extended break. They played Thursday, so hopefully you know, 601 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 3: he's a lot closer one hundred percent here. 602 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's I mean, he's got, He's just he's there. 603 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 2: He's like there so far and away better versus man 604 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 2: coverage than any of the other receivers that I mean 605 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 2: he should get. He should be getting ten catches this game. 606 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 2: Like that's that's kind of that's really what they like. 607 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 2: They should not target anyone else that they can help. 608 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 2: I am high on Let's go the guy a little 609 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 2: bit further down the list, but I want to point 610 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 2: him out just because I think he has like massive 611 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: upside if you're maybe a big underdog or just in 612 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 2: a super deep way. But Marvin Mims Junior, just the 613 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 2: way he's starting to be used, you know, in the backfield, 614 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 2: so he's getting like some high percentage targets, but also 615 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 2: still uses a downfield receiver, so he's goetting. And then 616 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 2: they were using him right around the goal line as well, 617 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 2: but he got he got stopped just outside the goal 618 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 2: line in that Thursday night game, so has some touchdown 619 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 2: equity unrealized as well. So he's really been trending up 620 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 2: and he's starting to see you know, in short, about 621 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 2: fifty percent of the of the team routes per dropbacks. 622 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 2: So he's a guy that you know, whether it's even 623 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 2: if it's not season long, if it's maybe a DFS play, 624 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 2: maybe it's props. But Marvin Moms definitely needs to be 625 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 2: on people's radar because they're just you. And Sean Payton 626 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 2: actually said it, he's like, you know, I can't believe 627 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 2: we didn't use him, like get him more involved sooner 628 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 2: and sure enough, he you know, has increased his usage 629 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 2: and it's a little Jordan Humphrey just less and less 630 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 2: every week, which is probably a good thing. So now 631 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 2: you got this potential shootout with the Cincinnati Bengals, one 632 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 2: of the worst plass defense I already talked about vot Nicks. 633 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 2: Now he has success against you know, kind of bottom 634 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 2: half past defenses. So this could be a really interesting 635 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 2: spot for Marvin Moms. If there's anyone that could kind 636 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 2: of come from outside the top forty ish or so 637 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 2: and finishes like a top five, top ten receiver this week. 638 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 2: I think Marvin Mims is the guy. So he's he's 639 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 2: right just right at like inching into my top fifties, 640 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 2: like Wi wide receiver fifty one. But I just thought 641 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 2: I point him out because he's sixty eighth in consensus. 642 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 2: I think that's way too. 643 00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: Be yeah, way too all right? 644 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,239 Speaker 2: Who speaking of low, who are you low on at 645 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 2: y receiver this week? 646 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: I'm low on Cooper Cup this week. 647 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 3: And you know, he's really hit rock bottom heading into 648 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 3: week seventeen. Bad time to hit rock bottom, I might add, 649 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 3: But you know, he followed up his zero catch dud 650 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 3: in week fifteen with another dud last week three balls 651 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 3: for twenty four yards against the Jets, and you know 652 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 3: a lot of the dip in production is kind of 653 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 3: what I was talking about with Stafford. These just have 654 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 3: been more run heavy game scripts where the Rams haven't 655 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,479 Speaker 3: need to throw the ball and they've been winning. So 656 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 3: that's her Cup, But also it's just Poka and Akua 657 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 3: just getting absolutely insane usage. He's had a forty percent 658 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 3: target rate over the last five games. It's hard for 659 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 3: anybody to command targets when you have a player like 660 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 3: that alongside you. So and Pooka, you know, he his 661 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 3: playing time is kind of limited. He's been playing through injuries, 662 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 3: but his playing time has been going up. And last 663 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 3: week he ran a route on all of all of 664 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford dropbacks. Just seeing more playing time, it's like, 665 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 3: what the hell can Cooper Cup do at that point? So, 666 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 3: and Tyler Higby returned last week, I'm guessing his playing 667 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 3: time will only go up. He's probably gonna command more 668 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 3: targets than Kolbe Parkinson and you know the ragtag guys 669 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 3: they had in place of Higby. So that's gonna didn't 670 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 3: Cup even more. And this again, this is a game 671 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 3: where the Rams are six point favorites. Probably gonna lean 672 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 3: on the run heavily here, so cuts the guy that 673 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 3: he's all the way down to wide receiver twenty eight 674 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 3: for me. So in a lot of leagues you might 675 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 3: have to ben him in the finals, which sounds crazy. 676 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 3: He does have upside and yeah, he could put up 677 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 3: some points on your bench, but right now he's really 678 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 3: tough to trust. 679 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where he is for me too. It's because 680 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 2: they kind of switched him in Nicoua's roles, Like Nikua 681 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 2: has that old Cup roll where he doesn't come off 682 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 2: the field, and Cup is just like more of a 683 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 2: traditional slot receiver now, So if you know, sometimes he 684 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 2: comes off the field if they're not in one to one, 685 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 2: like Robinson will stay on or they'll go with at 686 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 2: Well or something. So it's just, yeah, he's his route 687 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 2: rate per dropback is down to the high seventies, low eighties, 688 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 2: where it u should be, you know, in the nineties. 689 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, he's it's all gamescript with him. Like if 690 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 2: they get in the past every game script, he might 691 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 2: he might jump back up to like ninety percent. But 692 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 2: like you said, six point favorites against the Cardinals, Cardinals 693 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 2: are eliminated, So who knows if that's going to happen. 694 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 2: They just want to run the ball in LA. I 695 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 2: am low on a couple of guys, Amari Cooper again. 696 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 2: I mean, he's he's outside of my top sixties, still 697 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 2: inside the top fifty. I don't know why. I mean, 698 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 2: he had fifty three percent route rate last week, fifty 699 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 2: three percent route rate average with Buffalo, and now Buffalo's 700 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 2: receiving core is healthy outside of Curtis Samuel who probably 701 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 2: will be back this week anyway. But you have Coleman healthy, 702 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 2: you have Mac Collins still like running more routes than 703 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 2: both of those, and then you have Kalosha Kire starting 704 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 2: to see a little bit of up Chicken playing time 705 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 2: as well. So a Marii Cooper is just like a 706 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 2: rotational receiver. At this point, he's averaging two point four 707 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 2: catches thirty four point four yards with Buffalo, So I 708 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 2: guess it could get worse than it was in Cleveland 709 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 2: earlier this year with a cooler because it's just he's 710 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 2: just not seeing in a playtime. Every once in a while, 711 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 2: we'll have these games where they kind of like spam 712 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 2: target him, but you have no idea when those are 713 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 2: gonna be. And also Marki's brown, like I know everyone's 714 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 2: excited about him, like I was actually hiring him last week, 715 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 2: I higher than like the consensus, but this week is 716 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 2: like now everyone's in like top, he's like wide receiver 717 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 2: forty three inch towards top forty. I know Andy Reid 718 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 2: is like, oh his his uh, plenty of time is 719 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 2: gonna go up. But it's the Chiefs. It's the Chiefs. Receivers, Like, 720 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 2: are we really gonna do this again? We just we 721 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 2: just had Isaiah Pacheco, like we just had DeAndre Hopkins. 722 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 2: We just see these guys playing like half the snaps 723 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 2: that everyone expects him to play so short, like you know, short, 724 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 2: short rest, short week is. But Brown, you know, admitted 725 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 2: we was working into football shape. He ran I think 726 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 2: it was fourteen routes or sixteen routes last week. You know, 727 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 2: could see an uptick can still not be any like 728 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 2: relevant playing time. Like you know, he's he's gonna have 729 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 2: to get a ton of targets, and that's what he 730 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 2: did on his first in his first game, he got 731 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 2: a ton of targets per route, kind of like a 732 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,919 Speaker 2: Marii Cooper and then what happened. You know, you see 733 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 2: that same usage or a little bit even an uptick, 734 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 2: but you get your normal target rate and you're really 735 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 2: so it's like, yeah, I don't think we should be 736 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 2: trusting him, like he's you know, DFS kind of dart 737 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 2: throw maybe anytime touchdown better or something like that, But 738 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 2: I don't think he should be kind of going up 739 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 2: into that wide receiver forty range. There are still guys 740 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 2: you know that you could project for like ninety percent 741 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 2: of routes in that in that range that maybe you know, 742 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 2: maybe they had some variants, but this is this is 743 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 2: just more variants, right, this is just shiny new toys. 744 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 2: So yeah, I think I think are a little too 745 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 2: high on him watching a ninety touchdown. 746 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, of course. But did you see his receptions 747 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 1: prop Uh? 748 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 2: Is it four and a half or five and a half? 749 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 1: Oh god, no, no, no, three and a half. I 750 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: thought three and a half is high. Four and a half, No, 751 00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: it is, it is? 752 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well he got five catches last he got 753 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 3: five catches last week. How could you take under three 754 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,879 Speaker 3: and a half. But my projections, I think, yeah, if 755 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 3: you look at the consensus projections and the tool, it's 756 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 3: a code red ten play on the under. 757 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough. 758 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't fade his yards. It would be his 759 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 3: receptions because it's playing times the issue here. But yeah, 760 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 3: three and a half seemed high, and I agree, I'm 761 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 3: way lower on him. 762 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: Than the consensus right now. 763 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 3: He's a potential dart throw in DFS like long shot play, 764 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 3: but it's hard to trust him like inside your top 765 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 3: fifty right now? 766 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: For sure. 767 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's MA marks for sixty eight and I'm projected 768 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 2: with two point eight catches right now. I mean that's 769 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 2: how much. I mean, yeah, it's this is just how 770 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 2: we do achieves for series and two until we see it, 771 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,320 Speaker 2: Like if we see him get you know, eighty percent 772 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 2: of a snap rate, then sure, but they you know, 773 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 2: they could say they're increasing it and it could go 774 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 2: from what was it lastly, like thirty something forty something 775 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 2: ute rate? 776 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, thirty three. 777 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 2: He can increase and still be below fifty. 778 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: Thoughts on Justin Watson at a half yard. 779 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 2: Went down, It went down, it was two and a 780 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:14,919 Speaker 2: half earlier this week. 781 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 3: Oh, he's either going for zero or you know, fifteen plus, right, 782 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 3: so they're just trying to get people to bet, yeah 783 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 3: the over and he'll finish with zero probably yeah. 784 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, he did run the most routes 785 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 2: out of that three of like Brown Watson Juju. But 786 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 2: that it's that that kind of varies game the game, 787 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 2: and yeah, he's he's out there running windspreings half the time. Yeah, 788 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 2: so yeah, I'd probably go under that. All right, Uh, all. 789 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,800 Speaker 1: Right, prop what you got, let's go with Justin Watson. 790 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. 791 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 3: Uh, this is a fun just head to head which 792 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 3: which wide receiver will have more half PPR points? If 793 00:37:55,960 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 3: they tie, all you get to win. Uh C Lamb 794 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 3: or Jackson Smith Jigba straight up? 795 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 1: Oh no, spread like that supposed to be that as 796 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 1: a trap line. 797 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 2: Where do you have CD ranked twentieth twentieth? 798 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 1: Oh? Okay, yeah, that's that's a. 799 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 2: Good bangdo I mean he's a little bangs. I just 800 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 2: don't like this matchup for down. I mean Cooper rush 801 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 2: he like he was a you know, borrier inching towards 802 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 2: the top twenty quarterbacks in the last few weeks. He's 803 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 2: like like QV thirty two, just like off the strength 804 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 2: of this Philly matchup and like, I like, holy crap, 805 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 2: Like there's like a lot of bad quarterbacks playing this week. 806 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 2: But yeah, no Cooper Rushes. 807 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know this could be a sit start decision 808 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,359 Speaker 3: that somebody out there listening has. And if you made 809 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 3: the championship, you probably have really good wide receivers. So 810 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 3: I could absolutely see somebody having the like who do 811 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 3: I start see Lamb or JSN because I already have 812 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,879 Speaker 3: you know, Justin Jefferson and Nico Collins or whatever. Where Yeah, 813 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 3: I agree. I think I would go to Jayson here. 814 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 3: I was hoping that you would take CD. Yeah, yep. 815 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,919 Speaker 2: They so they changed their they changed your offense around 816 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 2: mid season, and uh it was a week eight. So 817 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:15,320 Speaker 2: from week eight on, Jsn's receiving yardage totals or targets 818 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 2: and yard seven for sixty nine, twelve for one, eighty, 819 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 2: eleven for one, ten, six for seventy seven, four for 820 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 2: seventy four, five for eighty two, twelve for eighty three, 821 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 2: twelve for ninety five. So he is just getting and 822 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 2: they don't. That's they just replaced like half of or 823 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 2: three quarters of Tyer Lockett's old working Yeah, that's more 824 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 2: than JASN. 825 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 1: I figured this is coming. 826 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 3: Uh he was dollar Store am On Ross Saint Brown 827 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 3: and now he's just Aman Ross Saint Brown. 828 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. 829 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 3: I was gonna ask you, like, Tyler Lockett's downfall is real. 830 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 3: It's crazy projecting him now. Is that mainly due to 831 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:54,320 Speaker 3: Jasn just going off? Yes, or Tyler Lockett's being horrible 832 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 3: or both? 833 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 2: Uh, it's more so just kind of it, like he's 834 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 2: just a better place. So they're just kind of phasing 835 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 2: him out like they just kept so around mid season, 836 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 2: they went to more uh more heavy personnel, like I 837 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 2: think you were talking about Barnard. Oh yeah, yeah, so 838 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 2: they're using him a little bit more farrel Brown I 839 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 2: saw make a weeping catch glass games like they're just 840 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 2: using more tight ends, less uh less three receiver sets 841 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 2: and uh and that's allowed JASN to just be on 842 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 2: the field, you know, ninety percent, and they're targeting him 843 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,320 Speaker 2: on twenty five percent of his routes. Now. So Lockett, 844 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 2: if you just look at like I actually have a 845 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 2: That's why I'm always usually high on JSN every week 846 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 2: because I literally have been adjusting his targets per route 847 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 2: just based on starting in week eight and I not like, 848 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 2: yeah like a regressed uh like upward trend and Lockett, 849 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 2: he completely correlates where I think he's under ten percent 850 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,839 Speaker 2: targets per route in that same span was even say 851 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 2: the playing time. It's also the straight up he's just 852 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 2: Gino's not looking, he's not in the read, he's not 853 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 2: in the progression the same way he used to be. 854 00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 2: That's that's that's way it says, uh yeah, no, js 855 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 2: if you have people haven't realized like this guy is, 856 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 2: he's like top what top twelve every week at this point. 857 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 1: I mean, he's twelve every week. He's a beast. Yep, 858 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,800 Speaker 1: the game might have the game might have like a 859 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,280 Speaker 1: bunch of rain, we'll see. 860 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's underneath. He gets a lot of underneath 861 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 2: target stuff. So shouldn't like I said that, They said that. 862 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:19,800 Speaker 2: They said that last week, and then he had a 863 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 2: Metcalf long touchdown justin Jefferson two touchdowns. Jordan Adison to 864 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 2: like that like the rain himself is like, it's not 865 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 2: it's like we've went with the wind and all that stuff. 866 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 2: But yeah, definitely want to monitor that, but uh, I 867 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 2: wouldn't worry as much about like the underneath type. Yeah, 868 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 2: and wellam I mean, yeah, it's that's something to monitor, 869 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 2: just because he's he did see a little bit of 870 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 2: a decrease in snap rate and he's banged up, and 871 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 2: he keeps saying he's banged up. At some point, you know, 872 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 2: maybe they I don't know if they just I mean, yeah, yeah, 873 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,399 Speaker 2: so it's, uh, it's something monitor. I mean, it's still 874 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 2: top twenty and with you know, top one overall upside, 875 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 2: but a little bit shakier than he should be and 876 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 2: just a just a tough matchup chilly all right, tight 877 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:02,359 Speaker 2: End Top five? 878 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:07,720 Speaker 3: Who got uh brock, Bowers, Trade McBride, George Kittle, Travis Kelcey, 879 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:08,720 Speaker 3: and Sam Laporta. 880 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:13,760 Speaker 2: I got Bowers, McBride, Kittle, Kelsey and John new Smith. 881 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 2: Baby even him out? Yeah, like Laporter's might right there 882 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 2: is my number six. Most people are just knocking Kelsey down. 883 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 2: He's still top five in my mottom. He'still running route 884 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 2: about eighty five percent of the time. It's really hard 885 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 2: to knock him out based on a few bad games. 886 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 2: I mean, tight End is so volatized. Like one week 887 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 2: it's like everyone's high on McBride and he he posted that. 888 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,359 Speaker 2: Then it's Bowers and it's like, you know how tight 889 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,799 Speaker 2: End can't get yeah right far yeah yeah. The minute 890 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 2: you shout at him out, you're like, I'm gonna rank. 891 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 3: Them fire this week, Like well I was still I 892 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,359 Speaker 3: was still lower than the cr but not like nine 893 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 3: slots lower like normal I wish. 894 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, So yeah, tight End, That's that's kind of why 895 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 2: Kelsey he just I mean my bottle definitely still takes 896 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 2: his body of work into account to some degree, even 897 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 2: though we're late in the season and you don't just 898 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 2: completely like, love the fact that you're Travis Kelsey. So yeah, 899 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 2: he's still top five for me. But who you high on? 900 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 3: I'm high on Hunter Henry again this week. I was 901 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,760 Speaker 3: high on him last week. Cashed in with the solid 902 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,360 Speaker 3: four catches for thirty nine yards. That's basically his you know, 903 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 3: standard line at this point, but he scored a touchdown. 904 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 3: I said he was due for some positive touchdown regression 905 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,359 Speaker 3: finally got it. Doesn't mean he's going to score this week, 906 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 3: but pretty much the same projection for him this week. 907 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,320 Speaker 3: So he's my tight end seven. And he's been just 908 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 3: a really steady target for Drake May with the running 909 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:40,440 Speaker 3: back and wide receiver usage constantly influx with them. You know, 910 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,360 Speaker 3: he and Austin Hooper have been really steady at the 911 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 3: tight end position. So I'm high on both actually. But yeah, 912 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,839 Speaker 3: once again, Hunter Henry opens up until my top ten 913 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 3: in his ESTR. He's like, also, I have the top 914 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,399 Speaker 3: ten in ECR, like every week. I don't know what's 915 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 3: going on there. Yeah, tight end thirteen right now. So 916 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,360 Speaker 3: I have no problem being high once again on Hunter Henry. 917 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 2: He said, So he had four for thirty nine last week. 918 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 2: That's crazy because I'm model right now, I have him 919 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 2: projected for exactly four for thirty. 920 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,800 Speaker 3: That's what he is the most steady. It's just like 921 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 3: he just needs those touchdowns. But yeah, like he's four 922 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,879 Speaker 3: for thirty eight every week. We're both projecting him right there. 923 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,799 Speaker 1: This week. Oh this is I forgot to say. 924 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,800 Speaker 3: This is a revenge game too, so we might have 925 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 3: to bump it up a little bit, maybe five catches 926 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 3: for forty five yards or something like that. But yeah, 927 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 3: just again, he's you kind of mentioned it with you know, 928 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 3: Travis Kelsey still being like a top five tight end. 929 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:37,320 Speaker 3: Just the tight end position has been extremely volatile, you know, 930 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 3: a crap shoot every week. So getting you know, solid 931 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 3: consistent production from Henry I think has been overlooked. And 932 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 3: Drake May's been playing well too, So yeah, so I 933 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,840 Speaker 3: have no problem investing in this offense in certain players. 934 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 1: And Henry's that guy for me right now. 935 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean he kind of is the player. Yeah, 936 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess Ramandre Stevenson, but he's kind of 937 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 2: been Yeah, his booty made a nice catch on that 938 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:07,279 Speaker 2: touchdown as but Hooper, you're right, he's treading up. I 939 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 2: got Hooper, just I got Hooper going inch and toward 940 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 2: three catches now, which is crazy considering he's a backup 941 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 2: type like number two tight end. 942 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 1: Ye, I've got it exactly. I'm with you on that. 943 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,840 Speaker 2: I'm too nine, I'm still I'm still saying, Okay, he's 944 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 2: still number two tight ends, so there is some variance there, 945 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:23,840 Speaker 2: but yeah, no, his route rate has been up to 946 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 2: like uh in like the sixties, which is yeah, like 947 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,800 Speaker 2: coming out of the bye, they uptick for him and 948 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 2: just said jam and Polk, we're giving up on you 949 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 2: and they stopped using as many serious set all right, Uh, 950 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:37,719 Speaker 2: who am I high? 951 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 1: Oh? 952 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,359 Speaker 2: Juan Johnson, he has no quarterback, but like we talked about, 953 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 2: the tight end physician is volatile. So once you get 954 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,880 Speaker 2: outside that top, you know, ten to eleven twelve guys, 955 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 2: I mean it's a crap shoot. I think Juwan is 956 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 2: kind of sneaky this week. He's running around running a 957 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 2: routter on about seventy five percent of the dropbacks. And uh, 958 00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 2: the Vegas Raiders have just been bad against tight ends. 959 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,359 Speaker 2: They're number twenty four in DVOA against the position. They're 960 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,359 Speaker 2: allowing the fourth most schedule adjusted receiving yards per game 961 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 2: sixty four point four per FTN and with MaTx Crosby 962 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 2: no longer there, it's not like the tight end, and 963 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 2: it probably would be more of anyway, but it's not 964 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 2: like the tight end's gonna have to chip as much 965 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 2: or do anything. Like they could just get straight out 966 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 2: into the routes. So maybe we get olave back this week, 967 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 2: but I actually think that would help just take some 968 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 2: attention off Johnson and people would just be on him 969 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,880 Speaker 2: even less. But I mean, tight end, My tight end 970 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 2: projection for a guy him is not really going to change. 971 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 2: I actually have him tight end thirteen with a lave in, 972 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 2: so he might he might even climb a little bit more. 973 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 2: And that's just kind of the state of this passing game, 974 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,400 Speaker 2: especially when you take out Camara, who was just getting 975 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 2: such a high target rate per route of Yeah, I 976 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,479 Speaker 2: think it was like, what over thirty percent or close 977 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,440 Speaker 2: to there. So like now he's gone, you got Ken 978 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,239 Speaker 2: Dre Miller and Jordan Mims and just I mean this, 979 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 2: the ball could go anywhere in New Orleans and Johnson's 980 00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:59,800 Speaker 2: kind of at the top of that list. So like 981 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 2: the matchup this week kind of sneaky post type guy 982 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 2: who are you low on? Though? 983 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm low on Tucker Craft, who you know, coming 984 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,359 Speaker 3: off another solid game last night three catches for sixty 985 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 3: three yards against the Saints. He's been a really steady 986 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 3: low end tight end one all season for people that 987 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 3: scooped him up. Probably help people get to the playoffs 988 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 3: in the championship, who knows, But this is a tougher 989 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 3: spot against the Vikings, and in this range he has 990 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 3: been more touchdown dependent than most tight ends, and this 991 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,920 Speaker 3: is but it's just gonna be tougher for the Packers 992 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 3: to get touchdowns. Their team totals right around twenty three 993 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 3: and a half, which is lower than it usually is. 994 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 3: Plus we mentioned they've just been pretty run heavy. I 995 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 3: think they're going to try to run the ball even 996 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,960 Speaker 3: against the Vikings here. And you know Luke Musgrave returned 997 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 3: last week. Craft's still going to be the clear lead 998 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 3: tight end for the foreseeable future. But you know, Musgrave 999 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 3: will probably eat into his NEPs more than the other 1000 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,319 Speaker 3: tight ends that had been filling in with well. Musk 1001 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,759 Speaker 3: Grave was on ir so that could ding Craft a 1002 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 3: little bit. So once again, I think if you're playing Craft, 1003 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,359 Speaker 3: he probably has to score a touchdown to hit, which 1004 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,320 Speaker 3: he might he's been solid in the red zone, but 1005 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 3: this is a tougher matchup to. 1006 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:15,920 Speaker 1: Be banking on that. 1007 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,800 Speaker 3: So he's all the way down to tight end eighteen 1008 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 3: for me, but that could go up if if like 1009 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,279 Speaker 3: Christian Watson's ruled out. You know, he'll probably go up 1010 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 3: a bit, but probably not inside my top twelve. So 1011 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 3: if you've been banking on him, sure you can roll 1012 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,320 Speaker 3: the dice again, then he'll score touchdown. But if you 1013 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 3: have better options like Jawan Johnson, I have Jawan Johnson 1014 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,719 Speaker 3: ranked higher than I'm probably a higher four than Kraft 1015 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 3: this week. So this week I'm much lower on Craft 1016 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,080 Speaker 3: than I'm usually ranking him. 1017 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just that uncertainty and Musgrave because you know, 1018 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,839 Speaker 2: we've seen games where Craft still plays like ninety five 1019 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,719 Speaker 2: to but it's just it's just not as much of 1020 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:59,000 Speaker 2: a guarantee as it was with Ben Simms and John Fitzpatrick, 1021 00:48:59,280 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 2: as he. 1022 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 1: Is not former quarterback, like or is he like it's 1023 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,960 Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick. No, no, no, I think I'm thinking that. 1024 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,799 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he is the guy that's like seven feet tall, right, yeah, 1025 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:13,799 Speaker 1: six seven he's the. 1026 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:17,000 Speaker 2: Guy that his name is Fitzpatrick with a fis like 1027 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:24,440 Speaker 2: a capital p for past fifth Capital p Atrick. All Right, 1028 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,400 Speaker 2: I'm on Jake Ferguson this week for the Cowboy. Just 1029 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,400 Speaker 2: another one of these guys gets caught up in this 1030 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 2: tough matchup for the Eagles against the Eagles, excuse me. 1031 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 2: And the thing about Ferguson is he usually could be 1032 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,279 Speaker 2: counted on to be out there, you know, eighty plus 1033 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 2: percent at the time, just get a bunch of snaps. 1034 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 2: Really hasn't paid off this year. But you know with 1035 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 2: tight ends always talk about that you're just looking for 1036 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,759 Speaker 2: the routes and there's a lot of variants there. But 1037 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 2: now starting to see a slight downtick in his passing, 1038 00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 2: in his usage just seventy three percent of the past 1039 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 2: snaps last week, and he blocked a little more than 1040 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 2: usual too, at just a fifty eight percent route rate. 1041 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,760 Speaker 2: So now against the Eagles, I mean that's another situation 1042 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:04,840 Speaker 2: where that he could be tasked to do that. And 1043 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,480 Speaker 2: did see schoon Maker have a good stretch with Ferguson 1044 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,320 Speaker 2: out span Ford is a younger guy that has like 1045 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,359 Speaker 2: they're a little bit intrigued in so you could see 1046 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,880 Speaker 2: this start to continue because Ferguson really hasn't had a 1047 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,600 Speaker 2: great year catching the football. Anyway, Philly's number four and 1048 00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,520 Speaker 2: tight end in DVLA against tight ends, and they allow 1049 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,640 Speaker 2: the second fewest schedule justin receiving yards at thirty eight 1050 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,400 Speaker 2: point two per game two tight ends per FTN. So 1051 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 2: just not not a great matchup. He's down in my 1052 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 2: tight end twenty one. He's eastr tight end fourteen. But again, 1053 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,360 Speaker 2: I just I just think for like in these spots, 1054 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:43,080 Speaker 2: there's there's like you like just rather attach him to, 1055 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,040 Speaker 2: like attach yourself to like a guy in a better matchup, 1056 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,799 Speaker 2: like you know, uh Juwan Johnson low team total as well, 1057 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,279 Speaker 2: but like the Raiders are so bad against tight ends 1058 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,879 Speaker 2: that he could he has like higher upside than I think, 1059 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,800 Speaker 2: like a guy like Ferguson against the Eagles defense, Like 1060 00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,680 Speaker 2: that's just unless it's garbage time, I think it's gonna 1061 00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:02,279 Speaker 2: be tougher. So yeah, down on him. 1062 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:03,920 Speaker 1: Yeah same here. 1063 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:05,839 Speaker 3: And I know that two of his snaps were down, 1064 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,759 Speaker 3: but like it was just he didn't really lose it 1065 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,480 Speaker 3: to other tight ends. It was just less tight end 1066 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,520 Speaker 3: snaps in general, they have like their eight receivers and 1067 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,600 Speaker 3: clip Key and Dall's been more. He's been more involved 1068 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,400 Speaker 3: in the passing game where you know, they would have 1069 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,680 Speaker 3: four or five receivers out there and just no tight ends. 1070 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, they were just kind of phasing him out. 1071 00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 3: I noticed that last week, and that's why I'm also 1072 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,440 Speaker 3: like outside of the top twenty. But that's kind of 1073 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,520 Speaker 3: what's going on, right, just using more spread formations, four 1074 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,240 Speaker 3: or five wide receivers with the fullback. 1075 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that, and that tends to, you know, increase 1076 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,399 Speaker 2: when you have a trailing like a you know, they're 1077 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,360 Speaker 2: nine point and a half point, so you tend to 1078 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 2: see west of the you know, heavy personnel, you know west, 1079 00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:49,880 Speaker 2: like if you're in if you're in goal line in 1080 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 2: you know, wait, like in a trailing game script, you're 1081 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:53,719 Speaker 2: more likely to have the receivers out there than like 1082 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,279 Speaker 2: line up under center with two three tight ends. So 1083 00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,560 Speaker 2: just a little things kind of working against him this week. 1084 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,880 Speaker 2: All right, let's go prop tight end. Let's see. Oh, 1085 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,440 Speaker 2: let's go with a chig. Let's go chig. He's he's 1086 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:12,759 Speaker 2: been balding lately, so curious to where you have his 1087 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:18,640 Speaker 2: receiving yardage. I'll set the over under and he's coming 1088 00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:22,560 Speaker 2: off what he's coming off eighty one yards and nine catches. 1089 00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,920 Speaker 2: And fifty nine and eight catches, So yeah, two straight 1090 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,719 Speaker 2: ten plus start at games. All right, I'm gonna set 1091 00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:32,000 Speaker 2: hiss Median at thirty six and a half. 1092 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,120 Speaker 3: Oh damn, I thought I thought I was gonna get 1093 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,480 Speaker 3: a four in front of that, like the forties. 1094 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 1: That's good. Yeah, I'm right around there. I'll go under. 1095 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,239 Speaker 3: I think a lot of the production has been due 1096 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,400 Speaker 3: to just the Titans getting down by a million and 1097 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,560 Speaker 3: then coming back. Maybe that happens again this week, but 1098 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,320 Speaker 3: they are facing the Jaguars, so you think it'd be 1099 00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:52,920 Speaker 3: less likely. 1100 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, he's been good that Where do you 1101 00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:56,160 Speaker 1: have him ranked. 1102 00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:02,480 Speaker 2: Like tight in fourteen or something like that. Yeah, he's 1103 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 2: right around, He's right there still like it's still like 1104 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:08,759 Speaker 2: the Jet It's still the Titans. So you got he 1105 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:13,320 Speaker 2: can't ever be too too confident, but yeah, tend to 1106 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:14,880 Speaker 2: target the tight end a little bit more too. 1107 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. That's a good. Yeah. 1108 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,600 Speaker 3: And I feel like this is a thing with him, 1109 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,319 Speaker 3: doesn't he always like tear it up in the final 1110 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,640 Speaker 3: few weeks. It seems like he's always like really good 1111 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,200 Speaker 3: to close up the season, So something to consider. 1112 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, no, I love him this week. I think 1113 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,520 Speaker 1: that's a great number, but I'll just lean towards the 1114 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:30,000 Speaker 1: under here. 1115 00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's yeah, it's like, it's just there's a lot 1116 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:34,759 Speaker 2: of variance there and like if like let's say Rid 1117 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,080 Speaker 2: were Westbrookina catches a long one, then it makes it 1118 00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:39,719 Speaker 2: a little tougher, or if you don't get in that 1119 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,120 Speaker 2: crazy tround game scripts. He has a lot of variants. 1120 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, he's trending up. I noticed that ever since 1121 00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,359 Speaker 2: that game he had against the the Texans, I think 1122 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,719 Speaker 2: or he had like a long touchdown. He's had a few. 1123 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:50,800 Speaker 2: He's had a few games in these last few weeks. 1124 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:55,920 Speaker 2: All Right, that is gonna do it for NFL Week 1125 00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,279 Speaker 2: seventeen Player Projections episode here on the Fantasy Flex. Make 1126 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,800 Speaker 2: sure two subscrip to the Fantasy Flex Pod so you 1127 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,880 Speaker 2: don't miss an episode all season long. We're still going 1128 00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,600 Speaker 2: to be cranking out our Player Projections episode and our 1129 00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:12,560 Speaker 2: dfs breakdown every single week. Check out fantasylabs dot com. 1130 00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,719 Speaker 2: That's where all of our fantasy content is. 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