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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to forty one,

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Speaker 1: Episode two After Dayly Like Guys Stay production of I

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a

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Speaker 1: deep dive into America's share consciousness. It's Tuesday, June, which

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Speaker 1: of course means that it is International Bath Day, National

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Speaker 1: Strawberry Shortcake Day, which makes sense that this is about

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Speaker 1: the time that we all start. I like that it's international,

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Speaker 1: but like that the Globe recognized bath Day America. There's

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Speaker 1: only people doing Strawberry Shortcake Day. Do you like it?

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Speaker 1: What you work with a bath? I don't really do

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Speaker 1: bads other than if I'm very sick and then I

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Speaker 1: just want to like not stand up. Otherwise I don't

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Speaker 1: really work with baths. I give a lot of baths,

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Speaker 1: and the process of, you know, draining the water after

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Speaker 1: a four year old and a six year old take

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Speaker 1: a bath does not make me think of that as

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Speaker 1: like a cleansing process. But it's all left in the tub,

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Speaker 1: You leave it all, leave it all on the floor

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Speaker 1: as this way. And I don't mean to be cheeky,

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Speaker 1: but does your wife Jay baths? Yeah, that's right because

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Speaker 1: they see bath culture that greens have big bath culture

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Speaker 1: Japanese big bath culture. Turkish people have big bath culture,

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Speaker 1: Fins have big bath culture. I was reading something about

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Speaker 1: how the languages are similar because we might descend from

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Speaker 1: like the same ancient people who are into baths or

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Speaker 1: some ship. But I love man, it's the best. It's

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Speaker 1: such a good weight. If you have in trouble, sleeping

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Speaker 1: good soak right before you go to sleep. It's very relaxable.

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Speaker 1: But not right before you go to sleep. So you

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Speaker 1: call asleep in the bath and no bad knew that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but usually just to set you up, set you up,

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Speaker 1: all right? Well, my name is Jack O'Brien, a K

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Speaker 1: John being a Ramsey eating Bangnet's. That was just a

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Speaker 1: haunting Dolly mini search that Lex Lugie shared with me.

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Speaker 1: But I thought I thought it sounded in enough like

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Speaker 1: a discarded eminem lyric that I thought i'd I incorporate

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Speaker 1: Ramsey is my mother's maiden names. There it is, you know,

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Speaker 1: get it in there, and I'm thrilled to be joined

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Speaker 1: as always buy my co host Mr Miles Gras. Yes

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Speaker 1: he's just got kicked out of Dodger Stadium for smoking

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Speaker 1: a Blunt on Japanese Heritage Night, but he said he

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Speaker 1: wanted to see his boy show. Hey, please give it

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Speaker 1: up for Miles Gray. That's me right now. Japanese Heritage

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Speaker 1: Night is that Dodger Stadium on tomorrow and them, I'm

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Speaker 1: really trying to go, but I can't. It's the Dodgers

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Speaker 1: playing the Angels, and You're like, okay, so they knew

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Speaker 1: what they were doing. They wanted to bring all the

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Speaker 1: Japanese people out and I wanted to go, but I

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Speaker 1: can't get the hat with the special hat for that day.

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Speaker 1: So now I'm like, I don't know anyway, if you

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Speaker 1: can't off you, well, why can't you get it? Well,

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Speaker 1: because the tickets like a special package when they do

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Speaker 1: those theme nights at Dodger Stadium, like they there's like

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Speaker 1: a select number if thing not like everybody gets the hat.

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Speaker 1: It's like you gotta buy that ticket ahead of time,

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Speaker 1: so that ticket gets you a hat, the hat ticket.

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Speaker 1: The hat tickets are gone. There's also a thing I

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Speaker 1: where I got this hat, which is just a regular

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Speaker 1: Dodgers hat. Really really enjoying the Dodgers hat really enjoying

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Speaker 1: feeling a part of the city, rather than a thing

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Speaker 1: that gets you the middle finger. But yeah, exactly, Rather

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Speaker 1: rather than the Sixers hat, which was my only hat

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Speaker 1: for years. And you know, we've talked about the exploits

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Speaker 1: of the Sixers hat, cause it's caused them to lose

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Speaker 1: in the second round every year, and it's also caused

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Speaker 1: people to be like, fucking eight the Sixers. Dude. I'm like, yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: there's not much to say to that, Like I like them.

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Speaker 1: I wish I didn't, but that's that's where we're at anyways.

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Speaker 1: But now people assume a level of knowledge of like

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Speaker 1: current knowledge about the Dodgers that I do not possess.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday somebody was like, hey, man, at least they finally

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Speaker 1: got one. Today. I was like, right, I know, yeah exactly, man.

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Speaker 1: But they're gonna put it together because they have two.

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Speaker 1: You want to ride or not? All right, bro, Later

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Speaker 1: get some two by four's, yeah, yeah, yeah, big project

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Speaker 1: in the backyard. Anyways, Miles, We're thrilled to be joined

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Speaker 1: in our third seas one of our favorite guests here,

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Speaker 1: dare I say a wild Card, a very funny writer,

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Speaker 1: graphic designer, illustrator, one of the funniest stand up comedians

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Speaker 1: doing it. His album sixteen Bits is available wherever fine

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Speaker 1: comedy albums can be streamed. He's coming to you live

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Speaker 1: from a Roku background from a trapped tcl Roku TV.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome the brilliant, the talented Stephen will By, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Berry Patch. At production of I Heart Radio,

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Speaker 1: were the only all berry podcast within the Daily Sight guys,

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Speaker 1: so we're talking about that. Finally, turn up the faders

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Speaker 1: and turn up the haters. We are that whacking into it.

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Speaker 1: I thought you were talking about Berry National Strawberry Shortcake Day.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that they lined that up? Because Strawberry

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Speaker 1: Shortcake Day and you're gonna need You're gonna need one

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Speaker 1: after watching that finale and then and then you're gonna

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Speaker 1: be so full of sweat and shame from eating copious

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Speaker 1: amounts of strawberry shortcake. You're gonna need a bath. I

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Speaker 1: heard I'm I'm one episode behind. I caught the penultimate

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Speaker 1: episode on Saturday. I'll turn off right now, get out

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Speaker 1: of here, leave the podcast should be spoilt for you.

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Speaker 1: You're actually raped. Actually, is there a class action lawsuit

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Speaker 1: for people who like saw the finale and like, are

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Speaker 1: distressed now, and I'm like they are sending out the

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Speaker 1: mailer's right now postcards. Injured by the finale, you may

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Speaker 1: be entitled to compensation. The last finale left me. The

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Speaker 1: finales of this series leave me feeling very being like

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Speaker 1: that was very impressive, and I I just wanna like

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Speaker 1: rent a motel room and like smoke cigarettes and be

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Speaker 1: depressed for the next week. Like I just it's it's

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Speaker 1: very It's a dark damn all right, So I guess

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Speaker 1: i'mna have to buckle up for that one. So uh,

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Speaker 1: that's why I haven't even started the season yet. Oh

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Speaker 1: this is good. I really enjoyed it so far. That's

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Speaker 1: what everybody's saying. It's like funny, it's fun and I

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Speaker 1: was like, well, let's see, let's see how it leaves you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah there, Yeah, this last one is a real mee slapper.

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Speaker 1: It's a real It's like, oh, am I watching reruns

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Speaker 1: of f Troop or something. This is great, the funniest

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Speaker 1: Can you describe your your background a little bit what

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Speaker 1: you've done there, because it does it does. It's a

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Speaker 1: target H and M. You loved you love to see those? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But it's I mean, it's really it's really deluded. And yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: with real It's just a it's just a revenue machine.

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Speaker 1: It's not art, it's not comedy. Man. Well, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get to know you a little bit better in a moment, Stephen. First,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're

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Speaker 1: talking about, and we're gonna talk about a revenue machine.

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Speaker 1: One James Patterson. It's not gonna be the hop story,

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Speaker 1: but I thought it was the story. We shouldn't James Patterson,

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Speaker 1: the crime novelist who has the most best selling novels

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Speaker 1: So we'll talk about that because his names and his

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Speaker 1: output is going viral on Twitter and TikTok from librarians

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Speaker 1: as Miles has cleverly called it, just what's going on?

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Speaker 1: What's being day two? The headliners canceled unfortunately, just like

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Speaker 1: Just that that is the question, the pressing question that's

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about as mentioned James Patterson. But before we

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Speaker 1: the wicki How article on how to See Walk? Because

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Speaker 1: and implications of the sea walk. Oh my god. Wow.

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Speaker 1: that that Kate Bush collapsed or something. Right, All right, well,

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Speaker 1: let's let's check in. I wasn't here for Monday's episode.

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Speaker 1: I am just now getting this is. This is gonna

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Speaker 1: be my first time I have avoided couchella as much

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Speaker 1: as possible, other than you know, hearing from my parents

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Speaker 1: who were staying with me that they were like, man,

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Speaker 1: that's pretty bad. Huh pretty bad. Yeah, the day the

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Speaker 1: sixth was bad. Huh Um. So yes, Couchell and Night

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Speaker 1: one we saw that it was just basically receipts were

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Speaker 1: flying and it was like a teeth They're like, just

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Speaker 1: so you know, this is what we're gonna get into

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Speaker 1: over the course of these next few hearings. Night Too

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Speaker 1: there was even more. Really again, like we said on

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00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: yesterday's episode, there's nothing we didn't know or suspect right,

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00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 1: Like we we could see the way Trump was talking.

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Speaker 1: We've read the reports that he was leaning on different

439
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Speaker 1: people to try and get certain things to happen. Just

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Speaker 1: we're now getting in a more like official like, here

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Speaker 1: are evidentiary findings. So the first thing about Night To

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Speaker 1: that caught people's attention was that the committee says they

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Speaker 1: got the goods in the sense that they say they

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Speaker 1: have uncovered enough evidence for d o J to consider

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Speaker 1: a criminal indictment against Donald Trump for seeming to overturn

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Speaker 1: the election. They feel that they have They like, that's

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Speaker 1: not really, that's not a question at this point and

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Speaker 1: they also in this report from a p says, quote,

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00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: additional evidence is to be released in hearings this week.

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Speaker 1: Democrats say that will demonstrate that Trump and some of

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Speaker 1: his advisers engaged in quote a massive effort to spread

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Speaker 1: mis information, pressured the d o J to embrace embrace

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Speaker 1: his false claims, and urged Mike Pence to reject the

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Speaker 1: state electors and block the vote. But take that with

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Speaker 1: a couple of shakers of salts, since the d o

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Speaker 1: J also refused to charge Mark Meadows with misdemeanor contempt,

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Speaker 1: and you're like, well, when do you keep people accountable?

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Speaker 1: But again, I have no idea what they're legal strategies.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a fucking legal expert. So I'll I'll believe

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Speaker 1: ship when I see it. Either, Yeah, you you won't.

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Speaker 1: You won't hear it listening audience. But Jack did just

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Speaker 1: edit out a minute of him snickering at the possibility

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Speaker 1: of this actually happy ending. Yeah, I mean that is

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Speaker 1: partially how I feel like. I think we're getting some

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Speaker 1: good color. Like later, I think we learned that Rudy

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Speaker 1: Giuliani was drunk, like when he was drunk. But it's

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Speaker 1: just like funny to hear the actual details of like

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Speaker 1: what was going on, it does seem like their strategy

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Speaker 1: in my like kind of just taking a step back

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Speaker 1: and looking at what what people seem to think of

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Speaker 1: the takeaways from the first couple of minutes. The strategy

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Speaker 1: seems to be like proving that he knew he lost. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that he's not that he's not stupid, Like he's being like, no,

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Speaker 1: I really thought the election was getting taken from me

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Speaker 1: enough fair like that that's bullshit that he knew he lost.

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Speaker 1: So now every every bit of effort was put into

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Speaker 1: just altering reality in his favorite strange position to be in,

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Speaker 1: like we're here to prove that he's not stupid, right, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And it also seems to open up the possibility that

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Speaker 1: he just keeps doubling down and publicly saying no, I

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Speaker 1: don't know that I lost because I didn't lose, and

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Speaker 1: their big steel fake news and like I don't know

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Speaker 1: like that. So that's why it's good for me to

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Speaker 1: hear like that there might be some strategy going on

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Speaker 1: more promptly. Sure, I mean, I'm sure if you know

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Speaker 1: they're they're probably there, like whatever, Peter Navarro, probably not

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Speaker 1: big enough for them to put the like put the

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Speaker 1: screws on them quite yet, whereas Mark Meadows is chief

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Speaker 1: of staff, maybe they're like, well, well let some more

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Speaker 1: stuff come out and then we'll turn up the heat

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Speaker 1: and see if now, if he's ready to talk or

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Speaker 1: whatever that could. But that's me, that's off of me

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Speaker 1: just watching really cool mob films, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: But that that you're picturing art just the background make

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Speaker 1: him sing boys, yeah, Marc Meadows, you know Mark metas

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Speaker 1: an interrogation room and Marrick Garlic comes in. If Garlic,

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Speaker 1: Mark Garland comes in and he's got a pitch pipe

498
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Speaker 1: and he just goes, that's your key, now, start yours.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be like that. But

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Speaker 1: what is clear is that they are using republicans or

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Speaker 1: nonpartisan people to reinforce the message that we knew that

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Speaker 1: was an l You know, you're not hearing democrats like

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Speaker 1: their witnesses aren't Democrats right now or outwardly Democrat people

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Speaker 1: like they're either experts or their Republicans themselves who were

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Speaker 1: serving under Trump. So the next bit of thing that

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Speaker 1: was going on Bill Stepian, who is the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: campaign manager, probably knows a lot. You know, they're saying that,

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Speaker 1: you know on night too, that he's likely to be

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Speaker 1: pressed as a behind the scenes veteran of Republican campaigns

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Speaker 1: and to know what Trump's inner circle knew about the results.

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Speaker 1: But then on Monday morning, it turns out that he

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Speaker 1: can't appear to testify, and everyone's like, oh, what his

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Speaker 1: I believe his wife hasn't been labor So it ended

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Speaker 1: up not being even as juicy as a lot of

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Speaker 1: people are, like, dude, would they say to him? Because

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Speaker 1: he's already testified. So that was like a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a blip where people like, he's gonna testify and

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Speaker 1: then they're like, he has a family emergency. And my

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Speaker 1: first thought was like, well, how many horseheads did he

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Speaker 1: have in his bed when he worked up this morning?

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Speaker 1: I mean that technically is a family emergency because you

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Speaker 1: gotta hide all the horseheads from your wife so he

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Speaker 1: doesn't get mad at you. Bill, are you buying horses again?

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Speaker 1: Everything's good. I'm saying, check the garbage can and you're

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Speaker 1: going to find a bottle of castor oil in there.

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Speaker 1: You know, she wasn't. She wasn't due to that does work?

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Speaker 1: That does work when you know, I've seen people who

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Speaker 1: are expecting and just like, Okay, we're at the do date,

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Speaker 1: nothing's happening, let's get let's get things moving and moving.

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Speaker 1: They did get. Yeah, Castrol said tech I could get

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Speaker 1: a rewrite on that one pretty mouth um. And then

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Speaker 1: another another not revelation more of like a yeah no ship,

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Speaker 1: was that Rudy Giuliani was fucking waived on election night,

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Speaker 1: so drunk that he kept telling Trump to declare victory

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Speaker 1: despite there being many votes still left a count. But

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Speaker 1: was he actually drunk though? And this is fantastic the

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Speaker 1: way the January six Committee put this video together. They

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Speaker 1: basically did a side by side of people in the

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Speaker 1: campaign talking about how drunk Giuliani was, along with Giuliani's words,

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Speaker 1: and it just it just makes it makes Rudy look

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Speaker 1: worse somehow. M And just a caveat, I'm gonna let

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Speaker 1: these clips hook because it's kind of important to hear

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Speaker 1: like the people who are speaking, So you're going to

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Speaker 1: hear Jason Miller speak first, who is the former Trump

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Speaker 1: campaign senior advisor. And I believe the CEO of Get

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Speaker 1: or the Twitter fucking clone that nobody uses. So here's

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Speaker 1: him being a social Oh get or the other Twitter

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Speaker 1: quote that nobody uses, the other crap one. And then

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Speaker 1: you also can to hear from Bill Steppi into who's

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Speaker 1: the campaign manager? But you're as commentary as it's happening.

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Speaker 1: Just anything you're missing by just listening to the audio,

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Speaker 1: and I will giggle. Is there anyone in that conversation who,

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00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: in your observation, had had too much to drink? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Leading question? Uh, like Virjuliani, tell me more about that.

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Speaker 1: What was your observation, like his potential intoxication during that

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Speaker 1: that discussion about what the president should say when he's

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Speaker 1: addressed the national election night, and the mayor was definitely intoxicated,

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Speaker 1: But I do not um no, his level of talking

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Speaker 1: intoxication when he spoke with the president, for example, are

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Speaker 1: part of any discussions talking to the people I mentioned

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Speaker 1: Mr Steffi and Mr Maddows or anyone else about whether

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Speaker 1: the president should make any sort of speech on election night.

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Speaker 1: I mean I spoke to the president. They may have

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Speaker 1: been president, but um president spoke to the presidents several

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Speaker 1: times that night. There are suggestions by I believe was

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Speaker 1: Mary Giuliani to go and declare victory and say that

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Speaker 1: we wanted out right, it was far to making any

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Speaker 1: calls like that. Ballots, ballots, We're still being counted, ballots

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Speaker 1: were still going to be accounted for days, um, and

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Speaker 1: it was far too early to be making any properation

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Speaker 1: like that. I remember passes to Gretzky okay to invest

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Speaker 1: in my memory, and I was saying that we should

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Speaker 1: not go and declare victory until we had a better

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Speaker 1: sense of the numbers. And Gretzky's in his office he

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Speaker 1: scores okay, uh yeah, so pretty funny build up for

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Speaker 1: him to be like. And I remember saying, we should

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Speaker 1: not declare victory since we uh don't know who lost,

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Speaker 1: and that would knee cap democracy. It says a lot, right,

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Speaker 1: like all the people that are involved, no, clearly no

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Speaker 1: one had the ability to speak truth to power, or

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Speaker 1: they did. And this is the thing you do see

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Speaker 1: is that when they did, he didn't care. And that's

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00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 1: you know, this is like there's countless testimonies from today

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Speaker 1: from people who are in orbit of the administration hunt

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Speaker 1: like whether they're from d O J or like the

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Speaker 1: r n C or whatever. I mean, Like, dude, there's

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Speaker 1: fucking like no, there's nothing, dude, like Bill Barr basically,

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Speaker 1: and they there was a clip of him saying it

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Speaker 1: just showed how dis connected from reality he was when

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Speaker 1: he kept insisting about these things happening. So I also

591
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: want to play this other one from acting Attorney General

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Speaker 1: in this sort of space between the election and the

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Speaker 1: in January six, Richard Donohue, who's just to get an

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Speaker 1: idea of the desperation. He told Trump multiple times that

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Speaker 1: there was fucking nothing there, and he basically said the

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Speaker 1: second he like Trump would realize the jig was up,

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Speaker 1: he just moved to another thing. Yeah, just back on

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Speaker 1: Giuliani real quick. I do think it's interesting, like just

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Speaker 1: to view it from like there are thousands of people

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Speaker 1: at any given time, and especially in a white house

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Speaker 1: like this one, where it is purely about like self enrichment,

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Speaker 1: and you know, finding like thousands of people trying to

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Speaker 1: get close to the president. The only one who could

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Speaker 1: because they were the only one who was telling him

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Speaker 1: what he wanted to hear was ship faced like that's

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Speaker 1: the that's the only reason we're talking about this. We're

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Speaker 1: not talking about it because like Rudy Giuliani, you know,

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Speaker 1: has a drinking problem. And it's funny. It's be because

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Speaker 1: he was giving, like having meaningful conversations that would have, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, determined the future of the country and whether

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Speaker 1: there was a civil war. But the fact that this

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Speaker 1: is a person the Trump who like is only looking

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Speaker 1: for whatever he wants to hear, means that sometimes that

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Speaker 1: is going to be the drunkest person in the room. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And that that's what we saw, which is it's like,

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Speaker 1: it's like, the only person who thinks you're a terrible

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Speaker 1: business idea is a guy high off cocaine next to you,

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Speaker 1: And you're like, right, that's like, yeah, dude, I totally

619
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Speaker 1: think we need like an N sixty four retro bar.

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Speaker 1: That also is like fucking karate classes. Man, oh Man,

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Speaker 1: I thought you were using terminology. I thought you were

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Speaker 1: using front financial terminology, and then I realized what you

623
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Speaker 1: had said, and I actually immediately took out a loan

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Speaker 1: I've already taken out alone for that business. Yeah, are

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Speaker 1: you offering franchising an option? Look, I told you, Stephen,

626
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Speaker 1: I'm not interested. It feels kind of weird for me

627
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: to get involved in that business. But anyway, started the

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Speaker 1: ground up, that was a long walk and you're you're

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00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: so this is the former acting deputy Attorney General. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was saying, look this. Trump came to me constantly saying,

631
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Speaker 1: look at this, this is bullshit because at that blame

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Speaker 1: billbar Is like, dude, I can't fucking like this is

633
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Speaker 1: non sense, Like this is like it ain't happening. So

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Speaker 1: the next guy comes in and he's having the same problem,

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Speaker 1: and he looks like Vladimir Putin as played by Martin

636
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Speaker 1: short perspective and to try to put it in very

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Speaker 1: clear terms to the president, and I said something to

638
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Speaker 1: the effect of, sir, We've done dozens of investigations, hundreds

639
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Speaker 1: of interviews. The major allegations are not supported by the

640
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 1: evidence developed. We've looked at Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Themata, We're

641
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: doing our job. Much of the info you're getting his false.

642
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Speaker 1: And then I went into, for instance, this thing from Michigan,

643
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Speaker 1: this report about sixty error rate. Reality is it was

644
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Speaker 1: only point zero zero ring less than one in fifteen thousands.

645
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Speaker 1: So the President accepted that. Um, he said, okay, fine,

646
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Speaker 1: but what about the others. And again this gets back

647
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: to the point that there were so many of these

648
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Speaker 1: allegations that when you gave him a very direct answer

649
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Speaker 1: on one of them, he wouldn't fight us on it,

650
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Speaker 1: but he would move to another allegation. Oh man, that

651
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: just brought me back. That was that was like such

652
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: a just like hearing a song from your childhood. That

653
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: just brought me back to like thinking about just remembering

654
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: how Trump's mind worked and like how, yeah, he would

655
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: just use the Internet as a never ending source of

656
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: bullshit that he could just go from one under the

657
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: next to the next. He is no different. He's no

658
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: different than his supporters or Q and on conspiracy theorists,

659
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: where they're so desperate for this thing to be true

660
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: that they're like, fine, okay, maybe that what about this

661
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: whole other pile of bullshit excuses I have do any

662
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,919
Speaker 1: of the his work and they say no, And then

663
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: it's like, well, then fucking Mike Pence is gonna have

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Speaker 1: to fucking do some ship. Then you know, like it's

665
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Speaker 1: clear how they're showing how he like all of the

666
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Speaker 1: avenues he tried, because they also played they also showed

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Speaker 1: a card of the amount of legal els he took

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Speaker 1: to like sixty two cases all fucking els, like not

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Speaker 1: a single one that he raised in court he won,

670
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Speaker 1: and to show like so exhausted those options, these options,

671
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Speaker 1: to the point where it would basically be like the

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00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: sixth is our last shot. It's like being told that

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Speaker 1: Santa Claus isn't real and you're like, okay, co co

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Speaker 1: co co co co CoA easter bunny though he's right,

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Speaker 1: he does his thing right, Uh okay cool co co

676
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Speaker 1: co co CoA tooth fairy though, huh fairy can't They

677
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Speaker 1: can't get under my pillow. There's no way. I mean,

678
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Speaker 1: I go to sleep tonight, I'll put whatever you want

679
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: under your pillow to show you how easy it is. Okay, fine,

680
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,240
Speaker 1: watch this. I'm predicting the tooth fairy will put an

681
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: Ace of Spades playing card underneath your at pillow tonight.

682
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: Yes it's not you, it's not here. Look at the

683
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Speaker 1: zip block bag. It's all your team, your parents trying

684
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Speaker 1: to convince. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, too fairly not real.

685
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: But h and then they're like, actually, yeah, yeah, do it.

686
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: Those goats you've seen what happens to them. But yeah again,

687
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: we're seeing time after time like in really start you know,

688
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: terms how just how what we thought it was. There

689
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: were people being like, there's nothing there, and he's like,

690
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Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck. We're gonna keep going the

691
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 1: next thing and the next thing until the point where

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Speaker 1: you've like shed all the like people who you know,

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Speaker 1: like are connected to reality and like again, yeah, you're

694
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: left with people like Peter Navarro and Rudy Giuliani because

695
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 1: Peter Navarro, they all said in another testimony where another

696
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: lawyer had told Peter Navarro that the fraud stuff wasn't

697
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: like adding up, and he accused this person of being

698
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 1: a fed with the deep state m and the guy

699
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 1: was like, what what it means? Like, no, motherfucker, I'm

700
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Speaker 1: just telling you what the ship is. But that shows

701
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Speaker 1: you the mindset of a lot of like, the people

702
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: who were getting very close were the ones who are

703
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: so invested in this working despite it not one final

704
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: thing I just want to leave people with is the

705
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Speaker 1: idea about the Remember the Trump Official Election Defense Fund.

706
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Speaker 1: He was just doing just numb bonkers numbers with fundraising

707
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Speaker 1: off of like they're trying to steal the election from

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Speaker 1: me and give me all you got, baby. I'm just

709
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: gonna play this like clip that they played at the

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Speaker 1: end of the hearing today from one of the investigators

711
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: who was looking like I probably like a financial forensics

712
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: person looking into what the defense fund was, And I'm

713
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 1: just gonna play this whole clip just you can kind

714
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: of hear that this is like the one of the

715
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: lad big sound bites of the day for conservative news

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Speaker 1: to not play. And I'm senior investigative counsel with the

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Speaker 1: House Select Committee to investigate the January six attack on

718
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Speaker 1: the United States Capital. Between election day and January six,

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Speaker 1: the Trump campaign sent millions of fundraising emails to Trump supporters,

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Speaker 1: sometimes as many as twenty five a day. The emails

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Speaker 1: claimed the quote left wing mob was undermining the election,

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Speaker 1: implored supporters to quote step up to protect the integrity

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Speaker 1: of the election, and encourage them to quote fight back.

724
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Speaker 1: But as the Select Committee has demonstrated, the Trump campaign

725
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Speaker 1: knew these claims of voter fraud were false, yet they

726
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Speaker 1: continued to barage small dollar donors of emails, encouraging them

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Speaker 1: to donate to something called the official Election Defense Fund.

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Speaker 1: The Select Committee discovered no such fund existed. So now

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Speaker 1: they're now you're gonna hear testimony from people that were

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Speaker 1: in the campaign staff. This first one is a Trump

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Speaker 1: campaign staffer. I don't believe there is actually a fun

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Speaker 1: called the Election Defense Fund, different to say the Election

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Speaker 1: Defects Fund was another. I think we've called the marketing

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Speaker 1: tactic and tell us about these funds as marketing tactics. Uh,

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Speaker 1: just the topic matter where money could potentially go to

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Speaker 1: be how money could potentially be used. The claims that

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00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: the election was stolen were so successful President Trump and

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Speaker 1: his allies raised two fifty million dollars nearly a hundred

739
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Speaker 1: million dollars in the first week after the election. Okay,

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Speaker 1: now I kind of get the strategy that that starts

741
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: to makes sense to me that, like, if they are

742
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 1: knowingly lying and if they eventually have somebody or some

743
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: evidence where he's like, ye had no ship, it's bullshit.

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00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 1: But just we're making loads of money here scratch right,

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00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: then I could see how that would be disqualifying or

746
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 1: at least make it so that they're like, look, man,

747
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: you need to give all these people their money back

748
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: because you were knowingly like that. That sounds like fraud

749
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,479
Speaker 1: to me, right, tell people a fake thing, a fake

750
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Speaker 1: THINGY is going to and then it's just going to

751
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: something else. But yeah, and then I feel like he

752
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: would rather not give money back, like not he would

753
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: rather not give two fifty million dollars back than just

754
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 1: than anything. That dude really likes this stuff. Yeah, the

755
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: spy magazine story that comes up a lot, but I

756
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: think it's worth repeating that they did a thing in

757
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: the eighties when they were like sending refunds refund checks

758
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: to all the various like supposedly richest men in New

759
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: York and the dollar amount got lower and lower and lower,

760
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 1: and they wanted to see, like who would keep cashing

761
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 1: the checks. And the only person who cashed the checks

762
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 1: up to the very end, up to like the two

763
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Speaker 1: cent mark was Donald Trump. So he yeah, he likes

764
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: the money to a pathological degree that doesn't exactly you know,

765
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 1: exists in reality. And so could have got your full

766
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: tank of gas. That's right before Biden came in. This guy,

767
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: thank you. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll

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00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: come back and talk about James Patterson. And we're back.

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Speaker 1: And there's been a couple of like viral videos from librarians,

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Speaker 1: I mean more than a couple of librarians or absolute

771
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Speaker 1: content machines. As as you will know, we've all known,

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Speaker 1: just highlighting how much just cheer netweight of books in

773
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Speaker 1: the library are written in quotes by James Patterson. James

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00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: Patterson is just one of one of those names that

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00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: I've always this, Like, Sue Grafton was one when I

776
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: was younger. I don't know if she's still right, but

777
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Speaker 1: it was like, uh, I've gotta okay. Sue Grafton, favorite author,

778
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: author of the those Alphabet books, Yes, died before she

779
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 1: could release Z and it's one of the most heartbreaking

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00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: things I've ever heard. I don't know really, she did

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00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 1: twenty five books and then died. Oh yeah, Why came

782
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: out in seventeen and she passed away in twenty seventeen.

783
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: Is for alibi, as we all know. B is of

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Speaker 1: course for burglar, C is for corpse, D is for

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00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 1: dead to beat. Okay, alright, goos. But but that, like

786
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: James Patterson books were in like that section of my

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00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: living room growing up, you know, just crime crime novels

788
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: that I think the closest there's been to one that

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00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: had like crossover appeal ton dime rack paperback novels is

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00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: the Alex Cross books. There was a movie Alex Cross

791
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Speaker 1: starring Tyler Perry that failed failed to catch fire as media.

792
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 1: That's starring Tyler Perry as Media. But another thing that

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00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: he James Patterson did recently was he started teaming up

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Speaker 1: with celebrities to write books starring idealized fantasy versions of

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Speaker 1: the celebrities, starting with Bill Clinton. So this is the Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the only other time we've talked about James Patterson

797
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: on this show. Um, he wrote a book with Bill

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Speaker 1: Clinton that was like the President is like his wife

799
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: disappears and he gets to like he's an actual hero.

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Speaker 1: But are you doing Bill pitching the book? That's what

801
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 1: he sounds. That's I think that's kind of how it went.

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00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 1: It was just like a fantasy where Hillary disappears and

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00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 1: he gets to live like as like a James Bonds

804
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Speaker 1: type of figure. I think it was called The President

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Speaker 1: Is Missing. The most recent is with Dolly Parton, Run Rose, Run,

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Speaker 1: and Yeah, I don't know it. It's about an aspiring

807
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: country singer named any Lee moves to Nashville trying to

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Speaker 1: shake a dark past and gets helped from a charismatic

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Speaker 1: country star ruth Anna, who wears wigs, fake nails, and

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Speaker 1: is Dolly Parton. So he helps somebody be like, would

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Speaker 1: you ever wish you could do if you were if

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Speaker 1: you could do anything else? But then she's she's still like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, be a kind of president without a wife. Alright,

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Speaker 1: this might be on the nose, but okay, why is

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Speaker 1: he Why is he in? I mean, aside from doing

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00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: novels that aren't great? Like, what are what are we

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00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: learning now about him? So he's currently promoting a new

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Speaker 1: autobiography and is making headlines for claiming that the world

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Speaker 1: is especially hard these days on older white male authors,

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Speaker 1: which he claims as another form of racism. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: a quote, another form of racism. He made eighty million

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Speaker 1: dollars in all the year alone. You fuck get out

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Speaker 1: of here. So I feel like I feel like the

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Speaker 1: world has been less and less kind to one of

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Speaker 1: the greatest old white man authors. God, his popularity is

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Speaker 1: thin And is that fair? I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 1: think so who's to say? Who's to say whether it

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Speaker 1: is or is not a form of racism? Only got

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Speaker 1: and there we go. I made I made eighty million dollars.

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Speaker 1: Get out of here. So this dude, he's also like

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Speaker 1: been making a lot of money for a long time.

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Speaker 1: Before he was a paperback writer, he worked in the

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00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: ad business. He is the one who helped write. And

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Speaker 1: note that they said helped, right, not like fully authored.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to grow up. I'm a Toys r

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Speaker 1: us kid. That was. That's the work of James Patterson.

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Speaker 1: No matter how hard I try, I can't get COVID

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Speaker 1: that one. Oh you know that one? Yeah, he crawled

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Speaker 1: so push a t could run with I'm loving it right.

840
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 1: But he he also so he doesn't write most of

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Speaker 1: his books, probably if I had to guess any of

842
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: them at this point. He utilizes a team of ghost

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00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: writers and reportedly sees him self like a show runner

844
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 1: of a TV show. It's interesting why you look at

845
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: his books, because some of them are they just say

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00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: James Patterson. And those could be like the A VC

847
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 1: Andrews sort of situation where it's actually somebody else. But

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Speaker 1: then there are these other ones that are James Patterson,

849
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: and then the title of the book, and then in

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00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: little letters, it's like and Byron right right right, and

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00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: no last name satisfact, and it's it's the tack. The

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00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 1: font itself indicates that it's Yeah, he has so many books.

853
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: He's just because of this model, he's able to just

854
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: churn out so many books no individual James Patterson novels

855
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: considered one of the best sellers since two thousand four,

856
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: but he has the most books that are technically best sellers.

857
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,919
Speaker 1: He's considered one of the most best selling authors ever,

858
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,479
Speaker 1: which is an awkward turn of phrase. It I think

859
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 1: like they had to put that together because he's like,

860
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: he's one of the most best selling authors, but he's not,

861
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: Like his books aren't ever very don't ever sell that much.

862
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: He's just like got it down to a science. He's

863
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:20,240
Speaker 1: published two hundred and sixty times bestsellers. But he's also

864
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 1: I don't know, he just has all the hallmarks of

865
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: like I would assume that when it comes to the

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00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: people who actually write his books, they're not getting paid

867
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Speaker 1: like TV writers who have the benefit of like a

868
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 1: union and you know, their names being on the works

869
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: that they actually right. So in in two thousand nine,

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Speaker 1: Stephen King called him a terrible writer, and in Patterson

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00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: announced he was publishing a novella called The Murder of

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00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: Stephen King about like Stephen King stalker wants to kill

873
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: him eventually, like Withdrew. That's pretty cool. Yeah, I'll give him.

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00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 1: I guess that is like the novel list equivalent of

875
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:06,240
Speaker 1: like a dish tract, exactly like the Tale of Ady.

876
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:12,439
Speaker 1: Don you know what the murder Stephen King? Whoa, Wow,

877
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 1: you might be right, Stephen, like he really might be

878
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: in Lets push a tea bag just like really like,

879
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 1: oh you are hiding a child? Well they overlap more

880
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 1: than I even originally thought. He was also sued by

881
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 1: an ex girl from for stealing her ideas. She had

882
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: to drop her case because she ran out of money

883
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: to pay her lawyers. And this is America means he's innocent, right,

884
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: the person who has more money to pay lawyers is innocent.

885
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: But just the details of her claims like kind of

886
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 1: ring like kind of are indicative, if true, of the

887
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 1: sort of person who would build a literature empire on

888
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: the backs of people he pays like ship. So after

889
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: they started dating, Patterson asked for help him fleshing out

890
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: the characters Ristine Johnson, the love interest for Alex Cross

891
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: in the Detective thriller. I don't even have to say

892
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 1: the name. We all know chat and mouse. He'd write

893
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: the Alex character, She'd write Christine, she said, and Patterson

894
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: would dedicate the book to her, but which she didn't.

895
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: So he's very stingy again with the byelines. He's like,

896
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: and I'll say that I like you in the inside cover,

897
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: which she didn't realize, claims was that he was secretly

898
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 1: poaching ideas and phrases from her letters and from her

899
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: own novel based on her life. Patterson had promised to

900
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: help get her book published, but then used the material

901
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: family stories descriptions of the horse farm where she grew up,

902
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: skiing trips for several of his best sellers. Um you

903
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 1: fuck wow. I mean I'd expect nothing. Last year was

904
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 1: like just sees himself. He was like, I'm more like

905
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: an idea collector than a writer. Yeah, surety, I just

906
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: used your life for my profit. Yeah. So on the

907
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 1: one hand, the Stephen King thing is cool. On the

908
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: other hand, and maybe not a cool boss. You feel

909
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: like it might be tough to write novels for him. Also,

910
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: it's just there's something like dishonest and the all devouring

911
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: capitalism of it all that like these are probably like

912
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: good authors who are writing, or at least like authors

913
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: that people like could enjoy and be like, oh, I

914
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: want to read more of their work, but instead like

915
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 1: it's all being just bastardized and turned into like a A

916
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: A Patterson novel, Like he's just the only author, like

917
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 1: the brand. He's just created a brand where he's the

918
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: only author and all like promising up and coming crime writers.

919
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: He's just like, yeah, you write from me now. Kid.

920
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: Back to the stealing from his girlfriend, that's also like

921
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: because the the easy way is to do what he

922
00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: does and just higher ghost writers, but like go we

923
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: combing through her stuff and pulling things out, Like that's

924
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: not the easiest thing to do. It's still like the

925
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 1: creatively bankrupt thing to do. But like that takes maliciousness,

926
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: that takes effort to like pull somebody's work like that

927
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: and put it into euro when he could just be

928
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,479
Speaker 1: like throw money at a guy and have him write

929
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: something featuring He's probably he's probably just like such lizard

930
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: brained like I'm here to get mine that every relationship

931
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: he looks at is a way to like extract something

932
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: from himself, you know, like whether that's the people he

933
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: writes with or that right for him, or even a

934
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: relationship if those things, there's like, no, it's in my

935
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 1: nature to just if there's something to take them and

936
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: just take that right. He reminds me a little bit

937
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: of Scott Adams. If you've ever done research into Adams,

938
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: he's kind of got I don't know. And they kind

939
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: of create for the same sort of broad spectrum of

940
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:05,439
Speaker 1: American consumers and he yeah, yeah, I read for people

941
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: who definitely aren't disturbed by homophobia, racism, or xenophobia. That's it.

942
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: They're just not disturbed by it. I don't know the

943
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 1: other stuff that's filling the blank. But and we know

944
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: where we're at. Yeah, so anyways, don't don't But James Patterson,

945
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: now I need it. Now I know. I'm sure Lydia

946
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: Popovich is going to read the Dolly parton one, so

947
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: I'm I'm curious to hear her take. Is a true

948
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:32,479
Speaker 1: Dolly fan be like this is nonsense or or maybe

949
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 1: it's great. Maybe it's the you know, the exact pairing

950
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,959
Speaker 1: that we needed. It's like, wait, this reads like her biography,

951
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: but they just swapped the name out. Wait. People speculated

952
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: for a long time that Rose Ruth was had her

953
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: body covered in tattoos, which is why she never showed

954
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 1: her bare arms. This I think this is dollar part second,

955
00:59:54,160 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 1: and then created her own theme park, butterfly Land. Oh man,

956
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: there's a there. We have a lot of cause for

957
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: a trip to Tennessee one of these days. Is that

958
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: what it's called Dollywood Mountain Dew Park whatever that is,

959
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 1: although I think that's only temporary. The do post or

960
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 1: whatever something like that. Yeah, well, dreams they come and go.

961
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: Jack this podcast, it remains you do a live site

962
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: geist yeahwood yeah. Yeah. Uh well Stephen, such a pleasure

963
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: having you as always. Where can people find you? Follow

964
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 1: you all that good stuff. I am at Wilburt with

965
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 1: any on most things, well just Twitter and Instagram. Yeah.

966
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: Can I plug things? Yeah please exactly here we go. Okay,

967
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 1: So in a couple of days, on Thursday, I'll be

968
01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 1: at the Rendezvous Theater in Seattle, Sunny Seattle for a

969
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 1: comedy show, and then on Monday I'll be in Portland

970
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 1: for show that I call Spaghetti Wall, which is me

971
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: just seeing it, trying to do some stuff and see

972
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 1: if it works. But I've also got great comics on that,

973
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 1: so if I fail, like it'll at least be an

974
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: okay show. And you can get tickets for that. It's

975
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,919
Speaker 1: at the Siren Theater. On Monday and you can get

976
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: tickets at Siren Theater. That gap there you go. Okay, yeah, Um,

977
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 1: is there a tweet or some of the work of

978
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 1: social media you've been enjoying? You know, I just want

979
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: to give a shout out to Chicago Golden Boy, Aaron

980
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 1: klock for who at Aaron underscore clop for on Twitter?

981
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 1: He always he's a He used to live in Portland

982
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 1: for a little bit and then he moved fact to Chicago.

983
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 1: He cracks me up. What he had one? Where is it? Oh,

984
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 1: don't talk to me until I've had my weekly PTSD treatment.

985
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 1: Ketami nasal spray. Don talked to me on a shirt Miles,

986
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? What is the tweet you've

987
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: been enjoying? Oh? My goodness. You can find me on

988
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. Also check out

989
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 1: the other podcasts Miles and Jack Got Mad Boost Bong

990
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 1: NBA Finals. We've got some nice guests coming up. Uh

991
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 1: and also for twenty Day Fiance. If you like ninety

992
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: day check out four twenty Day Fiance. Some tweets that

993
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 1: I'll like. Let's see. Oh, so this is a great

994
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 1: one because I don't know if you saw that group

995
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 1: of Patriot Front dudes who fucking inside of a U

996
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 1: haul trying to disrupt a pride like celebration and the

997
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: cops just like opened it and they were all like

998
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 1: with their hands up there like please don't ut me

999
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:02,919
Speaker 1: policeman him and turned into the scared shiba Inu meme.

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01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 1: And Trusty Truscy McMillan cott um At Truscy m c

1001
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 1: PhD tweeted, what no one can explain to me to

1002
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 1: my satisfaction, it's why these fascist cosplay people have so

1003
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 1: much free time and travel money. Well that's because other

1004
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: people are putting up that money. But yes, it does

1005
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 1: seem like that. It's like, do you what? Why all

1006
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 1: got together over there? Okay? And I have one more

1007
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 1: where to go? Oh this is just a visual one

1008
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 1: site Jones tweeted, um shook and it's this picture of Okay.

1009
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if people watch Living Single, but it's

1010
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 1: John Henton who played Overton and then he's and then

1011
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 1: Regime who was like the other character. And the tweet

1012
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 1: is John Henton, who played Overton Sinclair's TV boyfriend, but

1013
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 1: he was actually Regime's boyfriend in real life. And I

1014
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 1: couldn't believe I had no idea and that's just some

1015
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 1: old washed nineties living single stuff for you. Were they

1016
01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 1: like a different age or it was just no, just

1017
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 1: because he was seeing Claire's boyfriend on the show and

1018
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 1: when you're like it was like one of those things

1019
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 1: because the internet and they're like, no, in real life

1020
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 1: he's with regime and you're like, I hate each other. Wow.

1021
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 1: Yeah the fuck it's crazy. Man, hate to ruin you

1022
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 1: all week like that. Sorry. You can find me on

1023
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 1: Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. A couple of tweets I've

1024
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 1: been enjoying. B Becca Greenberg tweeted, women may friend zone men,

1025
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 1: but men mommy zone women, and that's worth in my opinion,

1026
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 1: I think it's very true. Benjie Sarlon tweeted, have we

1027
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 1: had the great remote work cat fishing story yet? Is

1028
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: there like a twelve year old who made middle management

1029
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 1: at a fortune company pretending to be their dad? Which

1030
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 1: I yeah, that that that. I feel like that has

1031
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 1: to have happened, and maybe the kid was just so successful.

1032
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 1: We haven't found out about it yet, but I mean,

1033
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 1: if it's the other version, it's just a very mediocre dude. Yeah,

1034
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 1: has managed to like end up it heights We've never

1035
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 1: could fathom, but I do like that. That is the

1036
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 1: kind of like it's like blank check almost like what

1037
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 1: that movies like as a kid, where it's like, dude,

1038
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 1: this kid's live in like a fucking adult. Yeah. It's

1039
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 1: just a kid at a zoom call with one of

1040
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 1: those talk boys and we're homer, Yeah, and he learns

1041
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 1: how to like use like put those snapchat filters on

1042
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 1: his like webcam, so it just aged his face, John,

1043
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 1: you're muted. Their dad's like a deadbeat and like goes

1044
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 1: on a gambling binge and they like come in and

1045
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 1: like fill in for him to try and make sure

1046
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 1: he doesn't lose the job. But then it's so fuck up.

1047
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 1: It's like weekend at Bernie's. But because capitalism so fucking brutal,

1048
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 1: you have to you have to assume your father's identity

1049
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 1: to keep the toil up your family. It's actually not

1050
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 1: a comedy at all. And then the dad comes back

1051
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 1: and he's like, wait a second, you're killing it, man.

1052
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna you canna stick in there for a little bit.

1053
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 1: I'll do your homework. Hey, you got any extra extra

1054
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 1: scratch for your old man, the Tonies are about to

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Speaker 1: run in thirty minutes down at thet B. Oh. No,

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Speaker 1: that's like a Jane Patterson novel. I mean Jane Patterson,

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Speaker 1: Jane Patterson much more talented sister. Yeah, that's actually who

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Speaker 1: was writing all right. You can find us on Twitter

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Speaker 1: We have a Facebook fan page and a website, Daily

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Speaker 1: foot note. We link off to the information that we

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Speaker 1: talked about in today's episode, as well as a song

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Speaker 1: that we think you might enjoy. Mileswood song do we

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Speaker 1: think people will enjoy? This is a track I was

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Speaker 1: listening to kind of like a funky, you know, Latin beat.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what genre specifically, but the group is

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Speaker 1: called Cota los re Medios and the track is called

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Speaker 1: Canadio and is just funk. I feel like I'm like,

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Speaker 1: you know, like if if there was like uh Central

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Speaker 1: or South American planet in Star Wars, this is what

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Speaker 1: the music they would be bumping in there with sound like.

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