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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Welcome to the show. Mark Vandermere and John

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Speaker 1: Harris with you. It's great to have you on board

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Speaker 1: as we get back to the work week. Although we

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Speaker 1: worked yesterday and many of you did, it was hard

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Speaker 1: to tell who was and who wasn't at times, but

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Speaker 1: there was certainly a number of people working. Ye know,

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Speaker 1: I worked like half a day yesterday, truth be told.

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Speaker 2: Johnny my son went to school.

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Speaker 1: Galvison College had class yep, and my son at UT

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Speaker 1: they had class I don't know if the Aggies, I

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Speaker 1: don't know.

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Speaker 2: Who knows, I don't know. Some people did, some people did.

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Speaker 1: In the high schools and the public schools and other

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Speaker 1: schools were out because it was President's Day. We talked

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Speaker 1: about this yesterday, but it's back to it and we

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Speaker 1: got a lot to go over. In fact, a week

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Speaker 1: from tonight, will be at the Combine giving you a

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Speaker 1: show from there. Looking forward to that and a number

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Speaker 1: of big things happening next week that we will get

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Speaker 1: into as the days progress here. But let's get into

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Speaker 1: this because Tyler Milner, who produces the afternoon show, he

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Speaker 1: texted us during the morning hours and said, Hey, what's

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Speaker 1: up for tonight?

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Speaker 2: Guys?

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Speaker 1: What should I tease for the show? Yeah, and Johnny

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Speaker 1: I just said, and I wasn't even thinking we'll rank

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Speaker 1: the top stories of the Texans this offseason.

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Speaker 2: What's the top story? What let's just go top three?

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Speaker 1: Maybe top three or four top stories for the Texans

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Speaker 1: this offseason heading into the offseason after the off season's

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Speaker 1: over could be completely different as far as the list

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Speaker 1: goes and the rankings go.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So things that haven't happened, for example, filling a whole, yes,

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Maybe running back is that? Is that what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: I want to be clear though, because there's the top

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Speaker 1: stories heading into the off season as far as other

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Speaker 1: people see them, and they're the top stories as far

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Speaker 1: as we see them, because clearly CJ. Stroud is a

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Speaker 1: huge story nationally when people talk about the Texans nationally

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Speaker 1: and locally too, his name comes up because of the

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Speaker 1: performance against the New England Patriots, and we all know

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Speaker 1: what happened first time. The haircut. My gosh, is there

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Speaker 1: a bigger story in sports? Maybe, but clearly it's a

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Speaker 1: big story, and I have a take on it. I

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Speaker 1: have several takes on this. On the haircut, not on

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Speaker 1: the haircut so much. Okay, we've talked about quarterback haircuts

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Speaker 1: in the history of the Houston Texas y. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean from David Carr to Matt Schob arriving here with

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Speaker 1: hair and then ending up with no hair upon departure,

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Speaker 1: or had some maybe something like that, some hit a

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Speaker 1: beard bearded Shob at the end of the twenty Bearded job.

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Speaker 2: That's right, Bearded job had a chance and then.

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Speaker 1: Bearded Shob almost resurrected the Shob career at that point.

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Speaker 1: But good luck to Matt being the quarterbacks coach of

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Speaker 1: the Cardinal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about that last week a little bit. Wait,

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Speaker 2: did we actually discuss this on the air? We talked

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Speaker 2: about it.

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Speaker 1: No, we didn't discuss this part of it though. Michael Laflur,

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Speaker 1: Baby Lafleur, the head coach hiring Nathaniel Hackett as his

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, the guy who replaced him with the New

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Speaker 1: York Jets, and the only reason Hacket got the job

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Speaker 1: at the time then was because Aaron Rodgers joined the

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Speaker 1: team wanted Hackett, right, But it's kind of weird that

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Speaker 1: Lafleur ends up with Hackett as is OC for Lafleur,

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Speaker 1: not calling plays because he hasn't been a great play

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Speaker 1: caller with the Jets, but you know he deserves another chance.

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Speaker 1: But it appears that Hackett's gonna call those plays in Arizona.

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Speaker 1: I guess because Lafleur was not calling the plays with

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Speaker 2: No, he was not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of Brian Callahan esque. When Brian Callahan

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Speaker 3: took over the Titans, he called plays to the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: He's off its coordinator, but he didn't call plays. Zach

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Speaker 3: Taylor call plays. So Brian Callahan got to Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: Oh with the Bengals, you're saying, then he goes to

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Speaker 1: you don't want that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want that, because that's too much to

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Speaker 1: Lafleur's been in oc before with the Jets, calling the

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Speaker 2: Salad the first year. Yeah, the Rob was there. So anyway,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot to consider there, but I won't get

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Speaker 3: I like it for Matt. I think it's gonna be

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Speaker 3: a good opportunity. I just don't know whose quarterback's gonna be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't know that yet.

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Speaker 3: That's going to be an interesting one because we can

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Speaker 3: you know, Kyler Murray could be that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's going to be an that'd be an

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Speaker 3: interesting dynamic between Matt Schobp and Kyle Well.

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Speaker 1: That's in Bill Barnwell's trade scenarios, and we're going to

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Speaker 1: do that in the next segment time perventing. Yeah, let's

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Speaker 1: do these Texans offseason stories. I'm going to give you

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Speaker 1: the categories. We can rank them as we go, okay,

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Speaker 1: and you tell me if there's a category I'm not

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Speaker 1: what to do about the running back situation or with it?

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Speaker 1: Will Anderson gets paid? Yeap, all right, that's a big story,

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Speaker 1: and I expect that to happen soon.

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Speaker 2: But maybe I'm wrong. Yeah, Sting.

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Speaker 3: When Sting got paid, it was shortly after we got

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Speaker 3: the combine. I think as we kick off the show.

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Speaker 3: Here we are twenty days until free agency. We are

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Speaker 3: twenty days away from legal tampering. Think about that.

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Speaker 1: Go right there, We're sixty five days away from the draft.

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Speaker 1: Johnny tamp me with a good time. But man, that's

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Speaker 1: a short amount of time to do a lot of work.

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Speaker 2: We'll get it done, Yes, we will get it done. CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud contract situation.

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Speaker 1: Look, this is not something we talk about much on

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Speaker 1: it into a whole CJ. Stroud topic. So let's just

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Speaker 1: go c J. Stroud a's offseason story. You know, progress

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Speaker 1: of the quarterback, future, all that stuff. Yeah, that's a story.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure about this one, but I would say

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Speaker 2: So you went back to back with Slowick and now

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Speaker 3: I think as far as just importance to the football team,

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Speaker 3: the one I would put last, I know that's gonna

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Speaker 3: Junior's contract because that's just gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's just something they're worrying about.

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Speaker 2: Will's gonna get paid.

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Speaker 3: because Nick It's done a really good job of giving

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Speaker 3: but you know, like Sting's contract was three years, ninety million.

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Speaker 3: I think eighty nine of it was guaranteed. So maybe

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Speaker 3: that's what they do with Will. Now, where's the where's

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Speaker 3: the number? The A the annual value going to be

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Speaker 3: there's a part of you that goes, would you rather

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Speaker 3: have Michael bars or Will Anderson. I'm like, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's tough called Mike is a tremendous player. But I'm

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Speaker 3: not trading Will Anderson no way.

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Speaker 1: He's just trade Will Anderson for nothing, nothing, nothing.

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Speaker 3: I'm not here, No, So I put that last, because

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Speaker 3: that that'll that'll get done Nicolon, and Nicolon as a

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Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts, a number of others show sh'll get Will paid.

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Speaker 3: And I think this organization. I think it was Dalton

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Speaker 3: I think is absolutely dead on. We've talked about this

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Speaker 3: and it was one of the reasons why Draft night

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Speaker 3: I defended that decision to trade for At the time,

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Speaker 3: it seemed like just for him. Ye, we look back

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Speaker 3: now and realize that the other pick they got out

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Speaker 3: of that turn into Kaylen Bullock. But regardless, Will's a

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Speaker 3: tempo setter. He is a culture changer, and he was

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Speaker 3: going to do more than just sack the quarterback. He

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Speaker 3: He has set the tone for this organization and that

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Speaker 3: is worth its weight in a trade. And I think

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Speaker 3: that's what people missed about that when they were just

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Speaker 3: looking at the analytics numbers and all that.

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Speaker 2: Well, you don't give up one player, and you.

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Speaker 3: Know, and of course everybody thought we were gonna stink

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Speaker 3: them all tie into the offense. Yeah, they do, so

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Speaker 3: I mean that obviously should tell you something.

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Speaker 3: Defensively, if there's some other stories, I think, you know,

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Speaker 3: bringing back some free agents. I think there are some

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Speaker 1: No, we all know, defensive tackle you have to address that, right,

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Speaker 1: Seana rankins he come back?

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Speaker 2: EJ Speed? Does EJ? Speed sign back? Here?

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Speaker 3: I saw all day Settle Free like all the defensive tackles,

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Speaker 3: you know, those are all guys you can But I

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Speaker 3: feel like, okay defensively, And this is one of the

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Speaker 3: reasons why I heard Seawan and Seth.

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Speaker 2: I had actually read it before it.

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Speaker 3: Made it to Sean and Set's lips and ears, But

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Speaker 3: they were talking about Joathan Alexander's mock draft, and look,

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Speaker 3: mock drafts are hard.

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Speaker 2: I just put together. It took me a while.

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Speaker 3: I just put together a three rounder for the entire

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Speaker 3: NFL at football taker dot Com. It takes forever, so

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Speaker 3: I understand it can never be perfect. But Jonathan Alexander

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Speaker 3: has two defensive tackles going in the first two picks

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Speaker 2: I don't see that happen. I'm like, no, thank you

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Speaker 2: all that one. But I don't. I don't want too.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know about that.

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Speaker 3: But all said that, all said, I think the defensive

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Speaker 3: the defensive mindset, the core. I think that's set. I

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Speaker 3: think nationally it's gonna be CJ strout because the last

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Speaker 3: remnant of football. The last thing national people saw was

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Speaker 3: We're like, well, look it's it's two games in a row. Well,

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Speaker 2: He knows that. I think that for him to reach

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Speaker 3: The ones you mentioned, the three that you mentioned pursue

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Speaker 1: Those guys were balling. And as long as you have

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Speaker 3: Arianta RASERI is the left tackle, and Titus Howard will

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Speaker 2: Can you name the spot? No?

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Speaker 3: Flip it when you know, or flip it. You know

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Speaker 3: then maybe Titus got tackle. The guards weren't so plentiful

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Speaker 3: that's why Titus becomes that much more valuable. Titus had

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Speaker 3: So for him, that mindset flip helped. I think that.

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Speaker 3: To me, I think he's a little bit better. I

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Speaker 1: Well, you're diving deep into what I think is maybe

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Speaker 1: But you know Jake is here. Jake's here, which is good.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Then you got Ingram a free agent,

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Speaker 1: And right tackle, yeah, you could have Titus, you could

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Speaker 1: We all agree, because you cannot expect I'd love to

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Speaker 2: You can't expect that, but I'd love to see it.

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Speaker 1: And the performance, I think you could expect a similar performance.

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Speaker 3: But they could sign and obviously the whole you know,

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Speaker 2: He's a free agent. I know you gotta figure that out.

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Speaker 1: If they beat New England, I think he's playing against

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Speaker 3: You get Trent back, you get Nico back, you hopefully

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Speaker 2: That would be something. Dang it, now I'm mad again.

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to get mad. I I want to

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Speaker 1: Romans to CJ. It's going to be a never ending topic.

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Speaker 1: record setting rookie season of twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Here are the categories.

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Speaker 1: Better completion percentage in twenty twenty five, the best of

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Speaker 1: his career, better than twenty four or twenty three. All Right,

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Speaker 1: ESPN's funky QBR rating, which does it take into account

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Speaker 1: late game execution? He had a better QBR in twenty

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Speaker 1: five than he did in twenty twenty four and twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three than his rookie season. YEP, Sack percentage so

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Speaker 1: fewer sacks allowed definitely down, so quarterback has a great

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Speaker 1: deal to do with that, along with the line down

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Speaker 1: in twenty four from there and down from the twenty

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Speaker 1: three number as well. Now, the rest of these categories,

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Speaker 1: he was better than he was in twenty four, but

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Speaker 1: not than the record setting twenty three seis here there

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Speaker 1: are yards per attempt better than twenty four, interception rate

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Speaker 1: better than twenty four through very few, and twenty yeah,

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Speaker 1: quarterback rating the standard type better than twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Not as good as twenty twenty three, but better than

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. So you took a step up and

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Speaker 1: touchdown percentage better than the twenty four number, but not

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Speaker 1: as good as twenty three. But having said that, in

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Speaker 1: QBR sack percentage, touchdown percentage rating, interception rate, completion percentage,

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Speaker 1: and yards per attempt all better in twenty two twenty

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Speaker 1: five than twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: All better. Patriots game was terrible. It was four picks

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Speaker 2: in the first half. We all know that. But this

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Speaker 2: is your CJ. Stroud. You're looking at here when you evaluate.

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Speaker 2: You know what.

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Speaker 1: He's got a lot going for him, and we just

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Speaker 1: need to make sure that he continues to get better

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Speaker 1: and we avoid what happened in New England.

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Speaker 2: Everybody on board.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's got to get into a room to talk about

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Speaker 1: the factors going in. I know people were hurting that game.

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Speaker 1: No Nico Dalton goes out early. Dalton was gonna have

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Speaker 1: a big game. We were hoping, No Trump Bret. We

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Speaker 1: all know that you had to hang in there. They

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Speaker 1: didn't hang in there. They didn't do what they needed

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Speaker 1: to do correct. But can they figure it out moving

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Speaker 1: forward to take steps forward from the entirety of the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five season, which wasn't improven over twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four and take it from there and they'll they'll get

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Speaker 1: to the pivotal moments again postseason or in the precipice

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Speaker 1: of postseason.

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Speaker 2: Do they do better?

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Speaker 1: I think they will, but look, this is the gamble

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Speaker 1: you take in professional sports and they got to figure

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Speaker 1: that out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And I think unfortunately for CJ, nothing that he does

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Speaker 3: in the twenty twenty sixth season will pease anybody. Really,

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Speaker 3: I don't think anything he does will pease anybody. For

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Speaker 3: two seventy five on opening Day don matter to TDS.

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Speaker 3: No picks, dumb matter, One sack doesn't matter because what's

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Speaker 3: gonna follow up?

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Speaker 2: Hey, nice performance? What about individual playoff round? You know what?

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Speaker 1: I think that's still so fresh, Johnny, and I agree

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Speaker 1: with you overall, but I think week to week in

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Speaker 1: the NFL season, there's a lot of reaction and overreaction

494
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Speaker 1: and you could have some good overreaction to it as well, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I think he's huger every demon, every problem, and you

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Speaker 1: really won't know until you get to that moment again.

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Speaker 1: But people will have feel good moments along the way

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Speaker 1: if the performance is that good. Yes, but what if

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Speaker 1: we as a quarterback stays in the league longer a

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Speaker 1: good one?

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Speaker 2: What happens? Oh nice, Lamar Jackson, you want the MVP.

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Speaker 2: Good for you? You lost a Buffalo indivisual playoff round?

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Speaker 3: Yes and no it Rejasha comes Josh, understand, but Josh

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Speaker 3: has gotten a point now where it's like, hey, great job.

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Speaker 2: Josh didn't even get him to Davis Championeill.

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Speaker 3: But in week three week it just becomes a higher

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Speaker 3: because of course, I mean CJ's gotten to that point

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Speaker 3: where it's like, hey, we have expectations. Naturally, people have

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Speaker 3: expectations of what CJ can do and where he's going.

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Speaker 2: You gotta win the big one. Yes, you've got you

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Speaker 2: at least have to even get there. It's the old

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Speaker 2: you gotta win the big one.

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Speaker 1: You got it, well, the big one, meaning for us,

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Speaker 1: the big one is the divisional round right now, that's

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Speaker 1: the big white whale that they have to conquer.

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Speaker 3: I think it's just gonna be this constant din CJ

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Speaker 3: can go off. In twenty twenty six, We're playing on

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Speaker 3: a Monday night against the undefeated Cowboys here at home,

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Speaker 3: and CJ puts up four bills and four touchdowns. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: naturally people are gonna go crazy, like, man, did you

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Speaker 3: see that performance? Maybe he's back to be in him,

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Speaker 3: but you know that that Din is just there, like yes,

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Speaker 3: so what what's he gonna do in divisional playoff round?

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Speaker 3: That that's gonna end up being the key. And it's

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Speaker 3: funny because I watching the Rise of the forty nine ers,

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Speaker 3: it was interesting when they would go back, like our

527
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Speaker 3: thought of looking back was, Man, Joe Montana was the best.

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Speaker 3: He was the greatest. To me, he is. It's Brady

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Speaker 3: Won and Joe Montana two. I would want Joe Montana

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Speaker 3: on a final drive. I would want Joe Montana in

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Speaker 3: the biggest game. And there's about a three year stretch

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Speaker 3: after nineteen eighty four when he was brilliant, brilliant and

533
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Speaker 3: the team was brilliant, lost one game all year. He

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Speaker 3: didn't throw a touchdown in three straight years in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Jerry Rice didn't have a touchdown in three straight years

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Speaker 3: of the playoffs again, and here's Montana just carving up,

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Speaker 3: you know people. But it's like they get to the

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Speaker 3: playoffs and the year before they had lost to the Vikings,

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Speaker 3: Montana got pulled, Jerry dropped the pass in the end zone,

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Speaker 3: didn't have a touchdown. And before that game, John Matt's

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Speaker 3: talking about, well, you know Montana and Rice, they just

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Speaker 3: they haven't had touchdowns in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: They have just underperformed. And then they go off.

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Speaker 3: And they went off the entire playoffs up winning a

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Speaker 3: super Bowl championship. So the only way to really quiet

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Speaker 3: all the din and the noise around well, you know CJ.

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Speaker 3: Turnovers and this and the Patriots game and forget about that.

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Speaker 3: The only way to turn it off is for that week,

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Speaker 3: that game in the visual Playoff round, to take it

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Speaker 3: to a different level, lead a team to a win,

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Speaker 3: get him the NFC Championship game. Then the narrative will

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Speaker 3: start to change on CJ. It will there will always

553
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Speaker 3: be this, yeah, but anything CJ does in twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 3: and I hate that, I hate that because I think

555
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Speaker 3: he's gonna go, like you said, you just put it

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Speaker 3: out all the numbers that he was better. We watched

557
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Speaker 3: every snap he took. It felt like he was better.

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Speaker 3: When he came back from the concussion, it felt like

559
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Speaker 3: he was smarter. He dirted the ball when he needed to,

560
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Speaker 3: he made the throws when he needed to. But man,

561
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Speaker 3: he had two of his worst games ever at the

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Speaker 3: wrong time where everybody was watching on ESPN.

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Speaker 1: A big mistake we make, we all make it in sports,

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Speaker 1: is we take the last thing we saw and assume

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Speaker 1: it's gonna continue. Gamblers do this all the time time,

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Speaker 1: or it's the way it's always been right. If it's good, Oh,

567
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Speaker 1: they'll never lose. Right, they're awesome, they're hot, they're not

568
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Speaker 1: gonna lose. Or they're bad. They're not gonna be any better.

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Speaker 2: We do that. It's up that that's the human factor.

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Speaker 2: This is not AI.

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Speaker 1: It's the human factor. Do they rally? Do they respond?

572
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Speaker 1: Do they solve the problems? We have plenty of off

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Speaker 1: season to talk about this.

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Speaker 2: Next up.

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Speaker 1: You brought this up a little bit, but we didn't

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Speaker 1: dive deep into the Bill Barnwell trades.

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Speaker 2: The proposed trades. Yeah yeah, I got a few.

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Speaker 1: Of those with a Texans angle and one from sports

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Speaker 1: illustrated concerning a position that you discussed earlier. This segment

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Speaker 1: with a Texans Angle plus at the end of the program.

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Speaker 1: Here Hannah McNair with two Lady Texan Legends, will have

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Speaker 1: a part of that podcast for you right here on

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Speaker 1: Texans Radio. Right back into the fray here on Texans Radio,

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Speaker 1: Mark VanderMeer and John Harris with you ready to have

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Speaker 1: you listening now. Bill Barnwell wrote an article about proposed

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Speaker 1: trades in the NFL, and I saw the hot take

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Speaker 1: shows responding to this, Johnny, I'm gonna try to Texanize

588
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Speaker 1: this as much as possible, all right, And this one

589
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 1: does not involve the Texans, but a Texans opponent who

590
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Speaker 1: we hate, the Horseshoe the Colts trading with the Panthers

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Speaker 1: for Xavier Legett yep, and they part ways with Michael Pittman. Now,

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Speaker 1: I thought Barnwell's comment to the Panthers side of things

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Speaker 1: was interesting. This jump starts the Panthers offense. What, No,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't. Pittman doesn't hold on hold. He said that

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Speaker 1: I missed that part.

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Speaker 3: I saw that trade, and you know what my initial

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Speaker 3: reaction was to that part.

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Speaker 2: It's a total nothing burger on both sides.

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Speaker 3: And here's why I say that the Panthers have Tep

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Speaker 3: McMillan and they have Jalen Cocher. Michael Pittman is basically

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Speaker 3: Jalen Cocher, just older, wow, possession receiver, great hands, that's well,

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Speaker 3: that's all he is. So you're getting Michael, You're getting

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Speaker 3: Jalen Cocher the earlier.

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Speaker 2: Version of a big contract contract. No, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Now, I'm not saying that Xavier Legett has been tremendous

606
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Speaker 3: for the Panthers flipping over the Colts. Now, the Colts

607
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Speaker 3: might need to make a deal like this, especially if

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Speaker 3: they're gonna lose out Pierson free agency. Now, they might

609
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Speaker 3: franchise him, but they might lose him in free agency.

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Speaker 3: Zamy Lagett doesn't scare a damned soul as a receiver.

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Speaker 3: As an athlete, yeah, sure, he's fun to listen to.

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Speaker 3: He's got a great.

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Speaker 1: Southern They were here for joint practices. He's a physical

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Speaker 1: special Yeah, he's a specimen. He's not a great receiver.

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Speaker 3: If you were, the Panthers wouldn't have had to go

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Speaker 3: out and get Tap McMillan, but they had to, and

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Speaker 3: they had to bypass on defensive players to be able

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Speaker 3: to do it. To me, I saw that and went,

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Speaker 3: I don't think either team improves really all that much

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Speaker 3: with that trade, if I'm being bruly honest.

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Speaker 1: Here's another one he had, which is mac Jones going

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Speaker 1: to the Vikings.

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Speaker 2: At first, I thought this was ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones and a third okay at twenty seventh pH Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Vikings for a second this year, a fifth next year,

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Speaker 1: and a third and twenty eight conditional. So basically the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers are getting a third two years down

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Speaker 1: the line, a second this year and a fifth next

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Speaker 1: year for mac Jones, and a third next year. Is

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Speaker 1: that they have to part with. I know this is

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Speaker 1: hard to follow on the radio. The point is it's

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Speaker 1: not like I'm gonna give you a three, you give

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Speaker 1: me mac Jones. It's not like that they get a

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Speaker 1: second this year for mac Jones, but they got to

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Speaker 1: make all these other gyrations and a swap of thirds.

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Speaker 1: But the years are off different down the line. It's

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Speaker 1: down the line stuff. If the forty nine ers, would

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Speaker 1: you do that? Because mac Jones is great insurance for

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Speaker 1: brock Perdy, who's not exactly the picture of health all

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Speaker 1: the time. In fact, the reason why they didn't get

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Speaker 1: to one of their would be Super Bowls was because

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Speaker 1: he got hurt in an NFC championship game.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now here's what I want you to do. Okay,

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Speaker 2: here's what I want you to do.

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Speaker 3: I want you to recite that trade the right way.

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Speaker 3: I want you to insert the name Davis Mills. Okay, Davis,

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Speaker 3: would you do it for?

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Speaker 4: All? Right?

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Speaker 2: So you're the Texans? Do the deal? Yeah, the Texans?

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Speaker 1: No, just do Vikings get Davis Mills and a third

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Speaker 1: round pick next year? Okay, four for we get a

652
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: the Texans get a twenty six that this year, second

653
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: this year, sixty five days, we get a second round pick.

654
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: Next year we get a fifth, and in twenty eight

655
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: we get a third. But we had to give up

656
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: a third for next year in addition to Mills in

657
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: order to get that done. So we subved Mills for

658
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: Jones and we did the deal with the Vikings. Who

659
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: aren't going to give us all that for Davis Mills.

660
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: I would think. I'm not Johnny. I'm gonna tell you

661
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: this right now. I take that deal. I just I

662
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: love Davis, I love David. I'm not taking the deal.

663
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,479
Speaker 2: I'm taking the deal. I get a second Ansome lan

664
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 2: yat time. I know I got to give up the third.

665
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 2: I get all that, but I get a second this year.

666
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: I'm telling you why I'm not taking the deal. Although

667
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 2: I don't want to give up you. I have said

668
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 2: I don't want to give up twenty twenty seven draft picks.

669
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not I'm not taking this deal because I

670
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: do get a second this year. But yeah, but Davis

671
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: Mills is important to me because CJ. Stroud he sung

672
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: his praises in the last segment, but the concussion situation

673
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: two of the three years he's played, I had to

674
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: go to a backup quarterback, and Mills played really well

675
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: last year, or well enough last year, held it down.

676
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: I think Mertz could probably play a game or two

677
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: for you, but I don't know that for sure.

678
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 2: Let me pitch.

679
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: I just know that Mills knows the system. I'll put

680
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: that in your quotes. Knows the system. He can probably

681
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: get even better in another year in the system, just

682
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: like CJ can. And I've got a great insurance policy

683
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: and I want to win the Super Bowl. Man, I

684
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: gotta hand on to my insurance my Davis Mills, I

685
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: backup plan.

686
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 3: I understand, but you could package those twos and you're

687
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 3: one if you wanted to and go up and go

688
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 3: get Jeremiah Love.

689
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 2: Maybe.

690
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 3: M all right, okay, so here's my thought. All right,

691
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 3: so let's play this out. Let's take this deal. Davis,

692
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 3: you'll enjoy the ten thousand lakes. I go, and I

693
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 3: resigned Case Keenum. I moved Graham Mertz up. I think

694
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 3: Case helps this entire building. Graham Mertz moves up right,

695
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 3: probably as the number two. I mean there's a lot

696
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 3: unknown with that. But I then take those second round picks,

697
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 3: I package him, I move up.

698
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: I turned the draft party. I turn.

699
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 3: I get the draft party turnt by going up and

700
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 3: getting Jeremiah Love. So I give up Davis in a

701
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 3: future third for Jeremiah Love. I resigned Case Keenum, and

702
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 3: I get a little bit of other draft lan.

703
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could almost get who says no, because Keenum

704
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: could probably play a game for you. He's a free agent.

705
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: He was with the Bears one year, thank you. I

706
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: don't know what he is interested in. Look at his

707
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: big brain on John. Maybe he's interested in coaching, and

708
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: you can start him off here. As a player coach

709
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: type god, because that's what he was here twenty twenty three.

710
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 3: I just don't see any discernible difference. It's really between

711
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 3: Mac Jones and Davis Mills.

712
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, I know some people will

713
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 2: in large part just because well, he was a first

714
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 2: rounder and Davis is a third round of class.

715
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 3: I don't think there's much. I mean, prob I gotta

716
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 3: go win a game. I think i'd take Davis. Now

717
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 3: I'm biased, of course, but so Davis win some games,

718
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 3: do some good things against good teams when the Texans

719
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 3: really needed it. Mac has had some of those moments

720
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 3: in his career as well. But that same deal put

721
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 3: the Texans in there.

722
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 2: Would you do that deal? Point being, I think both

723
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 2: the Niners and the Vikings win with that deal.

724
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 3: The hard part would be if Koc says, oh, yeah,

725
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 3: Mac Jones is now my starting quarterback.

726
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 2: That would be very interesting. Oh, very interesting, because all

727
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: you're giving up for a backup quarterback?

728
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I know, I think if they get Mac

729
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: Jones they expect him to start. I would imagine, yes,

730
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: they expect him to be the starter. I know they

731
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: have just what nine you're sitting they have a one

732
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: sunk into JJ mc karthy. I got some good news

733
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: and some bad news. That meme is going to decline

734
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: in popularity. That's the good news, although I can't forget

735
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 1: it even happened.

736
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 2: Although I can't guarantee that John I don't know all

737
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 2: the memes. I think the more he sits, the more

738
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 2: it might get used. But I think it's funny when.

739
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 3: They transpoats other jerseys on him, when they put Drake mayon.

740
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 1: And he has that face, the face the other Yeah,

741
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: other jerseys lost it.

742
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 2: It's beautiful. I'll be very clear.

743
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 3: I do not want the Texans to trade Davis Mills,

744
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 3: but if somebody offers me a second, a fifth, and

745
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 3: a third, especially a third is coming in twenty twenty seven.

746
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 3: Like I said, I like those twenty twenty seven picks.

747
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 3: I think i'd be.

748
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: Wait, wait, what about the Albert Breer Because the guy's

749
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: played these cuts this morning and Todd McShay talking about

750
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: c J.

751
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 2: Stroud's gonna be a target for trades.

752
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: Listen, people can call Nick Cassario all they want, right,

753
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,479
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that CJ's being shopped. And the guys

754
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 1: were clear of saying that they didn't imply that he's.

755
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 2: Going to approve. Definitely clear about that.

756
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: The implication is not that he's being shot, but that

757
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: other teams might be interested.

758
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 2: So in fact, one of the nick would you trace

759
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 2: your shout?

760
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 3: No, I mean yeah, okay, we're taking calls on CD

761
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:13,439
Speaker 3: because I mean it's they.

762
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: Would never get awesome everything you would want. You have

763
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,439
Speaker 1: too much invested.

764
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 2: In him right now. You know that is exact.

765
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: And I know the contract situation is going to be

766
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: a topic. Okay, I get it, but it is what

767
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: it is. You know, you're going into year four and

768
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: you're coming off that game, and I gave you the

769
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: areas where you improved in twenty twenty five. And we'll

770
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: see how they all handle it, because boy, those conversations,

771
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: I am not privy to them. Love to be a

772
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: fly on the wall for some of them. Okay, this

773
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: is not Barnwell, but Sports Illustrated suggested, and I don't

774
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: have the writer's name in front of me, so I'm

775
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: really sorry about this because it's not like the entire magazine.

776
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: Is it even still a magazine or is it just

777
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: a brand? Anyway, Sports Illustrated Chewba Hubbard to the Texans

778
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: in a trade what for what? I don't even know

779
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: what was what was going the other way? Give us

780
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: sixth that's it, that's it for Cuba.

781
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, give him sixth.

782
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's hey, we'll take Tube off your

783
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 3: hands for a six.

784
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 2: And is he really gonna do much here? I don't know.

785
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, you put Yourube Hubbard with with

786
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 3: what he marks Solidude Punchop's got some home run hitting ability,

787
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 3: but the Panthers, I don't know if Panthers. I don't

788
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 3: know if the Panthers could do that. I mean, I

789
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 3: don't know what rical Rico Dowdell will do. I don't

790
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 3: know where he is and is kind I think he's

791
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 3: a free agent as well. So I just feel like,

792
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 3: I know, I just said a sixth rounder, but I'm like,

793
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 3: I don't know if I want to get draft capital,

794
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 3: if I can go sign, if I can go sign

795
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 3: one of these other guys.

796
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 2: I think Tube was under contract.

797
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 3: Though, so Maybell, so I don't know, but I could

798
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 3: see that. But I'm not giving up. I mean, I'm

799
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 3: not giving up more than late Day Day three pick

800
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 3: for him.

801
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: Daddell was the guy who made their season because he

802
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: had over one thousand yards.

803
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: He was really showing some things.

804
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 3: And by the end the year they kind of forgot

805
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 3: about him and he got mad.

806
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 2: That's right because he's a free agent.

807
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 3: Because he was interviewed in the locker room afterwards and

808
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 3: they asked him about it and he's like, well, they

809
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 3: apparently don't want me, then give me.

810
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 2: The ball today.

811
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 1: I mean suba fifteen games, five hundred eleven yards, three

812
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: point eight per carry. He's got ability, but this might

813
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: be winding down. His first year was twenty twenty one,

814
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: and you know how it is with running.

815
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 3: Goes fast and look, you can probably get that production

816
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 3: from rookie running around. I worry about a rookie running

817
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 3: back just not coming in here with the passing game

818
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 3: acumen like Wood. He had Wood, he had the ability

819
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 3: to make pass protection an asset for him. He's obviously

820
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,959
Speaker 3: a great receivers. I'd like to see that used more.

821
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 3: I don't know the other rookies, rookie running backs are

822
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 3: coming into this league with that.

823
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: You gave me the key on Coleman to the Jags

824
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: thing from yesterday, right, Yeah, but what was the oh

825
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray to the Jets for a.

826
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 2: Fourth if you're the Jets, why would you do that?

827
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray in a sixth Yeah, you have to pay

828
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: his contract, right, and where are you going?

829
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 2: You're gonna win six seven games? Congratulations, you're gonna.

830
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 3: You're gonna draft tenth in a draft where you want

831
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 3: to be up in the top three with some of

832
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 3: the quarterbacks. They gotta finally be there a young quarterback

833
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 3: of the future. Easier said than done, because this isn't

834
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 3: the draft to do it. So I don't know what

835
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 3: you do, but it'd be great to fight a quarterback.

836
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 3: You want to build a round.

837
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: Then you win six, seven, eight games, and then you

838
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: say that's our future.

839
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 2: We're on our way.

840
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: If you do that with Murray? Where are you going?

841
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: Where you going? In twenty seven, twenty eight? Here's the

842
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: only thing I can think of.

843
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 3: In twenty seventeen, Sean mcder twenty seventeen, Yeah, twenty seventeen,

844
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 3: Sean McDermott became the head coach and becoming the head coach,

845
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 3: he got that team in the playoffs. Remember that they

846
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 3: were watching the locker room against the they watching the

847
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 3: Bengals Ravens. They got in the playoffs. That gave them

848
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 3: some equity in Buffalo. So what happened that offseason They

849
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 3: got in a draft. They realized they weren't gonna go

850
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 3: any further with Trot Taylor. What they do drafted a

851
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,280
Speaker 3: young warhorse from out of Wyoming named Josh Allen. Yeah,

852
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,720
Speaker 3: and said it's okay if we take a step back.

853
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 3: They bank some of that equity from the year before,

854
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 3: took a step back at eighteen, got in the playoffs

855
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 3: in nineteen. They've been in the playoffs ever since. As

856
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 3: they allowed Josh to kind of go through his things.

857
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 3: That's key they I can kind of see that trade

858
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 3: in a sense where, yeah, Kyler Murray comes to the Jets,

859
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 3: you know, he kind of gets on a little bit

860
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 3: of a hot streak. NFC East isn't or the AFC

861
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 3: East isn't all that, and Murray does a few good things.

862
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 2: He gets them to eight or nine wins. Now they

863
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 2: got some momentum.

864
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 3: I don't make the playoffs, but then twenty twenty seven,

865
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 3: obviously you're down the way. They do have a lot

866
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 3: of draft capital, though they do they do move up.

867
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 3: They made those two moves with Sauce Gardner and Quinn Williams.

868
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 3: They can move up with the draft capitol they have.

869
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 1: You gotta win some games, you got to show some home,

870
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: you gotta do some sure, you know, just in general,

871
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: just on the dou W side of the Ledger, do something,

872
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: all right. Next up, Hannah McNair does a podcast called

873
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: On the Fifty and she had a couple of Texans legends,

874
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 1: Lady Texans Legends in the house.

875
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 2: We'll check with.

876
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 1: Missus Walter and Missus Shorts. Next with Hannah McNair, the

877
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: VP of the Houston Texans Foundation. That's coming up on

878
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Speaker 1: Texans Radio. All right, with our final segment of the

879
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 1: show tonight, As we sometimes do in the off season,

880
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: especially early in the offseason, we visit some Texans podcasts

881
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: that are up on the YouTube page and on Houston

882
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: Texans dot com. And I say the YouTube page, I

883
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,240
Speaker 1: mean the Houston Texans YouTube page. You click on videos

884
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: and you scroll back and see what you want to watch.

885
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: And one of the things you want to watch Hannah

886
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: McNair with her podcast on the fifty, she catches up

887
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: with Lady Texans. She has some Love Houston volleyball players,

888
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: you know, the Texans own the Love Houston team, and

889
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: some other things as well, and This is from a

890
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: podcast she did with Lady Texan Legends, or is it

891
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: legend Lady Texans, I don't know, but they are Lady

892
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: Texans who are married to Texans Legends, Caroline Walter, and

893
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: also Chanelle Schortz, the wife of Cecil Shorts. The third

894
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: and of course Caroline Walter, the wife of Kevin Walter,

895
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 1: caught the biggest touchdown? Is that the biggest, the best,

896
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: the most important in the history of the franchise, sending

897
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: the Texans to the playoffs for the first time ever

898
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: Kevin Walter against the Bengals in twenty eleven. Anyway, let's

899
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: get to an excerpt of the podcast with Hannah McNair,

900
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: Chanelle Schortz, and Caroline Walter for.

901
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 5: Fans meeting both of you for the first time, Like,

902
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 5: what's something that really defines who you are? Is person

903
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 5: Like y'all have lived a long NFL life, posted NFL life,

904
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 5: what's something that kind of defines who you are now?

905
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 4: The NFL or anything about it does not define our

906
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 4: never define our lives. We're just a normal family with

907
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 4: normal family values and our kids come first. Our family

908
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 4: comes first. Everything else is secondary, and that's kind of

909
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,399
Speaker 4: the basis of how we live our lives, and our

910
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 4: kids know that there's nothing different about us.

911
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 6: My husband played in the NFL.

912
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 7: Oh I have to agree. God has always come first

913
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 7: for us, and then we've always tried to put one

914
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 7: another first and then come our kids. But we always

915
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 7: try to find some sense of normancy and all that

916
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 7: we do. But I think that that's the biggest thing

917
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 7: is that we always made sure football never overshadowed who

918
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 7: we are as people and what we like to do

919
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 7: in the community.

920
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 6: How did you meet your husbands? And I'll start with

921
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 6: you should.

922
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 7: Know I met my husband in college my freshman year,

923
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 7: and so yeah, we've been together ever since. But yeah,

924
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 7: he was the first guy I dated and the last.

925
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 6: And when I got to college and you were an

926
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 6: athlete in college.

927
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Speaker 2: I did.

928
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 5: I played basketball, and that did y'all meet because y'all

929
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 5: were both athletes in the program, and because athletes always.

930
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, so there were groups, specific groups, and so we

931
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 7: would just kind of go to the same things and

932
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Speaker 7: a lot of the teams supported other teams. I went

933
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Speaker 7: to Division II school, so it was a small school,

934
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Speaker 7: and so we supported all the sports, and so he

935
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 7: would come to all of my games and I would

936
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Speaker 7: go to his and before you know where.

937
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 6: We are, Caroline. I like your story. I've heard it before.

938
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Speaker 6: You haven't met. And we met in college as well,

939
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 6: freshman year. How funny.

940
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 4: And we also went to a smaller school, Eastern Michigan,

941
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Speaker 4: which is in the MAC Conference. It's not a big

942
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 4: school and I was not an athlete, so when Kevin

943
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 4: asked me. We met in November of my freshman year

944
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 4: and his sophomore year, and he asked me to go

945
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 4: to his football game that Saturday, and I politely declined

946
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Speaker 4: I was actually going back home for Thanksgiving, or maybe

947
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 4: I would have, but yeah, we met freshman year, and

948
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Speaker 4: we met through mutual friend like my roommate was friends

949
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Speaker 4: with him.

950
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 6: And you ran track in high school. I ran cross

951
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 6: country and high school.

952
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 4: Yes, I did not play college sports.

953
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 5: But your kids, I mean, they are so fast, I

954
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 5: mean from a young age, and people always assumed they

955
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 5: got their speed from Kevin, but we all know they

956
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,720
Speaker 5: get their athleticism.

957
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 6: From their moms.

958
00:43:55,719 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 4: Absolutely, our lives like the Everyone would ask me, oh,

959
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 4: which one of your boys? I have two boys and

960
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 4: a girl, which one is more which boys more athletic?

961
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 4: And I would be like, my daughter athletic and.

962
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 6: She is demon. Does she play volleyball?

963
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 4: She does not. She does not play volleyball. She she

964
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 4: tried that, but you know, she found that track was

965
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 4: her sport and she's killing it.

966
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 2: That's awesome.

967
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 5: Both of us husbands were wide receivers, by the way,

968
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 5: and both of your husbands came here from other teams,

969
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 5: so we didn't draft you.

970
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 6: R yes, right right.

971
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 5: You were Bengals and you were Jaguars, you know which,

972
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 5: y'all finally came to the best team in the division.

973
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 5: I remember the first time. Yeah, I love in the

974
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Speaker 5: tunnel and you had your kids and you're walking in

975
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Speaker 5: and you're like, hey, and I go, are you coming

976
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 5: to the Lady Textan Brunch?

977
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 6: And you go, I don't know anything about it?

978
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 7: And I literally went straight there, literally drapped my kids

979
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Speaker 7: off and came right to the brunch.

980
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 6: We had the daycare.

981
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:57,919
Speaker 7: Yep, we had a great time.

982
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:58,919
Speaker 6: That was so fun.

983
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 4: That was that was the most fun. I think the

984
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 4: Lady Textan Brunch was something so special.

985
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 7: It was every year.

986
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 4: I don't think other teams do that, and it was

987
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 4: something everyone looked forward to, and it was so welcoming

988
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 4: and relaxed, and it's amazing.

989
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 6: It was good.

990
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 5: The Lady Texans group is so special. I mean, we've

991
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 5: known each other for a very long time. A lot

992
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 5: of our friends have Like I'm still friends with a

993
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 5: lot of the Lady Texans back from when we were together.

994
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 5: I feel like that's been my longest and closest friends

995
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 5: over the years.

996
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 6: And ladies i've met.

997
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, you were my first friend when I got here,

998
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 7: were still friends. I hadn't literally, I hadn't met anyone else.

999
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 7: We came in and we just got right into it

1000
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 7: because I came later, so I didn't have the time

1001
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,720
Speaker 7: to be here for all right there. Yeah, absolutely, literally,

1002
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 7: like we saw we had kids the same agent. From there,

1003
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Speaker 7: it just kind of went we were pregnant together and

1004
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 7: here we are.

1005
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 6: So that was such a funny thing.

1006
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 5: So we all have kids that have played together, even

1007
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 5: on you sports, are still play together. I wish we

1008
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 5: still had your son, both of them, but like that's

1009
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 5: something they're all friends too. And that's the other thing

1010
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Speaker 5: about all of our kids growing up together, being able

1011
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 5: to rely on each other for friendships, our oldest and

1012
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 5: our youngest, our best friends.

1013
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Speaker 7: It's amazing.

1014
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 5: Her oldest son and my Robert, So Robert and Cecil

1015
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 5: the fourth.

1016
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,919
Speaker 6: He Robert said, hey mom.

1017
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Speaker 5: This was after they were working out or something, and

1018
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 5: they both come out to the car because I'm waiting,

1019
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 5: and Cec goes, so Robert and I have been talking,

1020
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Speaker 5: and he said, he turns eighteen before I turn eighteen,

1021
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Speaker 5: So when he turns eighteen, he's going to adopt me

1022
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Speaker 5: and then he's going to be my dad. And that's

1023
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Speaker 5: how it's going to be. And then he gets in

1024
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 5: the car with you guys, and he goes by Grandma.

1025
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Speaker 6: Happening now he calls me grandma.

1026
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 7: And then he was like, where did we come up

1027
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Speaker 7: with this? And he was like, well, and they're my grandparents.

1028
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Speaker 2: I was like, all right, all right.

1029
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Speaker 1: There's an excerpt of on the fifty the Hanna McNair

1030
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Speaker 1: podcast with Chanelle Schwartz and Caroline Waltz. She also has

1031
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Speaker 1: one with Jamil o'rian's. We'll probably get to that later

1032
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Speaker 1: this week or early next week. Next week we'll be

1033
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Speaker 1: at the Combine as well. So a lot of happening

1034
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 1: here on the program. Back with you tomorrow night at six,

1035
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Speaker 1: Area forty five coming up next.

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Speaker 2: Have a great night, Go Texans.