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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in hour number three, fourteen hours up, fifteenth

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Speaker 2: hour underway.

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Speaker 3: Now want to remind.

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Speaker 2: All of you that my good buddy Buck Sexton in Scotland.

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Speaker 2: He'll be back with me on Monday.

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Speaker 3: He and his.

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Speaker 2: Lovely wife Carrie have had a really good time all

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Speaker 2: over the play saw picture. Like I said yesterday, at

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Speaker 2: Buck in the Scottish Highlands. I think that he will

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Speaker 2: have I bet an incredible Scottish Brogue accent that he

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Speaker 2: has picked up and perfected during the week that he's

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Speaker 2: spent over there. I'm actually curious to hear about that

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Speaker 2: trip because I've been to Scotland once and I thought

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Speaker 2: it was absolutely phenomenal. So I want to talk obviously,

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Speaker 2: the Trump mugshot. We opened up the show talking about it.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you can under rate. In two hundred

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Speaker 2: and forty years, no political party ever tried to put

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Speaker 2: their chief political adversary in prison for the rest of

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Speaker 2: his life. Two hundred and forty years. That never happened.

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Speaker 2: From the time we won independence from the British up

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Speaker 2: until five months ago, when for the first time in March,

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Speaker 2: charges were brought in New York City. Over the last

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Speaker 2: five months, roughly four different major felony charges have been

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Speaker 2: brought against Donald Trump in New York City and South.

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Speaker 3: Florida, in Washington, d C. And now in Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: And I think we cannot underrate the goal of not

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Speaker 2: only putting Trump in prison for the rest of his life,

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Speaker 2: but ritual humiliation.

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Speaker 3: And I do think, as I started off the.

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Speaker 2: Show arguing, the mugshot is in my opinion, going to

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Speaker 2: blow up in the Democrat Party's face. And this is

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Speaker 2: an interesting analogy. But do you remember when we killed

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Speaker 2: Osama bin Laden? Do you don't remember what we did

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Speaker 2: with his body? We just dumped it at sea. We

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Speaker 2: didn't want there to be some form of grand funeral.

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Speaker 2: We didn't want to allow Osama bin Laden to be

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Speaker 2: a martyr. I believe Barack Obama even memorably described it

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Speaker 2: by saying, we didn't want to spike the football. For

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Speaker 2: those of you who are sports fans, we didn't want

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Speaker 2: to showboat too much over the fact that we had

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Speaker 2: finally brought Osama bin Laden to justice for what he

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Speaker 2: did on nine to eleven, and so we just dropped

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Speaker 2: the body at sea, and I thought a little bit

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Speaker 2: about that as I saw all of the mug shots

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Speaker 2: ricocheting around the internet. Remember, they didn't force Trump to

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Speaker 2: take a mugshot in New York City, they didn't force

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Speaker 2: him to take a mug shot in South Florida. They

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Speaker 2: didn't force him to take a mug shot in Washington,

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Speaker 3: But Fanny Willis.

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Speaker 2: In Atlanta wasn't content with charging Trump with all these

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Speaker 2: rico counts and trying to put him in prison for

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Speaker 2: the rest of his life. She wanted to humiliate him.

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Speaker 2: She wanted to spike the football on him. She wanted

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Speaker 2: to make him say what do you weigh, so that

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Speaker 2: when he said he was six three, two hundred and

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Speaker 2: in the first hour, could laugh and point at him.

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Speaker 3: Man, this's kind of interesting, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: All the people out there who claim that you should

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Speaker 2: never mention somebody's weight or ridicule anyone for being obese,

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Speaker 2: that it's perfectly healthy for you to be morbidly obese.

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Speaker 2: He's seen some of these athletic aware advertisements now where

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Speaker 2: they have some woman who weighs like three hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty pounds in Lulu lemon like stretching looks like a

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Speaker 2: beached whale in spandex. Oh, you're not allowed to ever

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Speaker 2: even mention that it's unhealthy to be young and extremely obese.

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Speaker 2: But Trump, Oh, let's all point and laugh how fat

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Speaker 2: he is. It's truly interesting where the rules are applied.

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Speaker 2: But I think this photo works in a major way

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Speaker 2: in Donald Trump's favor. I think he's going to raise

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Speaker 2: tens of millions of dollars, if not hundreds of millions

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Speaker 2: of dollars off of what will become an iconic photo.

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Speaker 2: And you're starting to hear the vestiges out there of

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Speaker 2: realization that Trump might actually win and that the great

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Speaker 3: Back to the White House. And they're now arguing.

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Speaker 2: I saw this on MSNBC Michael Steele said, if Trump

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Speaker 2: gets re elected, he won't leave the White House after

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Speaker 2: four years.

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Speaker 3: Listen to cut fourteen.

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Speaker 2: As you're suddenly starting to hear a little bit of realization. Remember,

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Speaker 2: Trump right now is in a stronger position as we

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Speaker 2: look towards twenty twenty four in the event that he

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Speaker 2: is the nominee than he was in twenty fifteen when

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Speaker 2: all of the process of Trump running began. And for

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Speaker 2: everybody out there who says there's no way that Trump

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Speaker 2: is going to win in twenty four and that's some

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Speaker 2: of you, that might be half of the audience that

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Speaker 2: aren't supporting him right now, remember that's exactly what everybody

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Speaker 2: said in twenty fifteen before he pulled off the win

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Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen. And now you're starting to see a

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Speaker 2: little bit of left wing panic. Wait a minute, what

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Speaker 2: happens if Trump wins? Listen to cut fourteen.

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump, a year before all of this began, was

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Speaker 4: telling us, if I lose this election, it's.

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Speaker 3: Rigged because I hone this election. This is mine.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to be president for as long as I

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Speaker 4: want to be president.

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Speaker 3: And so America.

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Speaker 4: Can I say to you, if you put the man

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Speaker 4: back an office in January twenty twenty five, what the

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Speaker 4: hell you think he's going to be trying to do

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Speaker 4: for the next four years. He's not going to say, well,

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Speaker 4: thank you for the four years.

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Speaker 3: I'm ready to move on. He's got enough role models globally.

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Speaker 5: To look at it.

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Speaker 3: How he can try to lock in this power. Come on,

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Speaker 3: you really think.

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Speaker 2: That if Trump is re elected in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 2: that come twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: He's going to refuse to leave the White House.

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Speaker 2: I think Trump would have the biggest, most glorious sind

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Speaker 2: off for himself that we have ever seen on behalf

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Speaker 2: of any president ever. But this is the kind of

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Speaker 2: fear mongering that all of us are going to have

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Speaker 2: to get used to, because there is a dawning realization

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Speaker 2: that basically in the mind of the left, the great

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Speaker 2: Satan that they believe they did everything to get rid

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Speaker 2: of in twenty twenty. They changed the voting rules all

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Speaker 2: over the country, They magnified COVID, they hid Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: in the basement. They all lied about how corrupt Hunter

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Speaker 2: most of you would agree is the biggest rig job

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Speaker 2: of an election that we have ever seen in any

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Speaker 2: they won the presidency by forty three thousand total votes.

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Speaker 2: If a little bit over twenty thousand people had changed

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Speaker 2: their mind in Wisconsin, in a Georgia, and in Arizona,

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Speaker 2: Trump would still be in the White House. And that's

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Speaker 2: why I think they are so desperate and so compelled

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Speaker 2: not just to try to put Trump into prison for

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Speaker 2: the rest of his life, but they are desperately trying

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Speaker 2: to humiliate him. That's what the mugshot is. It's spiking

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Speaker 2: the football. It is not even in any way legally necessary,

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Speaker 2: as Trump tweeted or truthed I guess earlier this week,

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Speaker 2: and Buck and I have talked about this on the show.

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Speaker 2: Does anyone really think that Trump needs to post two

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Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars in bail? Does anyone really think that

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Speaker 2: Trump could go anywhere in the world and hide. Does anyone,

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Speaker 2: first of all, think that Trump would ever flee the country.

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Speaker 2: I saw Trump last week, and I gotta be honest

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Speaker 2: with you, I cannot believe that it's seventy seven years old,

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Speaker 2: with four different felony charges brought against him, that the

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Speaker 2: guy still has the energy that he does to fight back.

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Speaker 2: And remember, this is one of the strong points I

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Speaker 2: think of what Trump is arguing.

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Speaker 3: It's not about him.

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Speaker 2: Once you set a precedent that you can try to

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Speaker 2: put the president of the United States, former or current

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Speaker 2: in prison because you don't like his politics, that precedent

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Speaker 2: doesn't end with Trump. And that's why my argument out

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Speaker 2: there is, if you think about the collapse of the

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Speaker 2: woke universe, there needs to be a brush back pitch

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Speaker 2: brought to bear by some district attorney, by some attorney

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Speaker 2: general out there of a red state, bring charges.

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Speaker 3: Against the Democrats.

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Speaker 2: You need to send the message that if you get

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Speaker 2: slapped in the face, there's going to be a slap

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Speaker 2: coming back in the other direction. I think what the

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Speaker 2: they get to judge companies and individuals based on their

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Speaker 2: politics doesn't work. You have to throw a brushback pitch

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Speaker 2: in the opposite direction, and if you don't, then there

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Speaker 2: isn't the fear of consequence. Democrat right now is afraid.

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Speaker 3: Now. Look, I've made the argument. I think this is

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Speaker 3: one hundred percent right.

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Speaker 2: I think for the betterment of the country, you might

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Speaker 2: have heard me yesterday with the vik Ramaswami Buck and

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Speaker 2: I talked about this last week. I think for the

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Speaker 2: betterment of the country, we need to end the idea

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Speaker 2: that we are trying to put political figures in prison

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Speaker 2: for the rest of their life. Based on trumped up

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Speaker 2: consequences of this occurring. There needs to be a fear

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Speaker 2: that is brought to bear on Democrats as well. And

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Speaker 2: then if the charges are brought against Hunter Biden and

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden, ultimately the Biden crime family has to be

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Speaker 2: held responsible for what I believe are a consequential series

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Speaker 2: then Democrats are going to look around and say, oh wow,

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Speaker 2: this is legitimately a threat. But the idea that this

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Speaker 2: this precedent isn't being set for years and years into

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Speaker 2: the future, I think it's a complete and total lie.

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Speaker 2: And that's why I believe every single political figure needs

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Speaker 2: to stand on principle over the politics. And that's why

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Speaker 2: I've been so aggressive for months now in arguing that

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Speaker 2: if Trump isn't the nominee, everyone out there needs to

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Speaker 2: fight as hard as they can in the event that

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Speaker 2: they're the nominee, and that they're going to end all

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Speaker 2: of the charges against Trump, that they're going to give

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Speaker 2: him a pardon. Without that, we have truly descended into

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Speaker 2: a Banana republic. And you're seeing that. By the way,

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Speaker 2: we just played you the Rob Schneider. By the way joke,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to mention this too. Mask mandates are coming back.

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Speaker 2: Democrats right now. Do not learn they didn't get their

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Speaker 2: ass kicked in the twenty twenty two mid terms over COVID.

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Speaker 2: This is why I think you have to continue to

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Speaker 2: beat the drum and point out how absurd masks are,

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Speaker 2: because without political consequence, no one's behavior changes. Gretchen Whitmer

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Speaker 2: got reelected, Gavin Newsom got reelected, Joe Biden, they're going

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Speaker 2: in their basement. There has been no reckoning. It has

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Speaker 1: welcome back.

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Speaker 3: In appreciate all of you. I wanted to mention it, and.

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Speaker 2: Look, there were three people that I thought really strongly

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Speaker 2: let's start here. What did you think of the Trump mugshot?

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Speaker 6: The answer to your question, the first part, I thought

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Speaker 5: So there's that.

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Speaker 6: But the fact that he actually had a mugshot, it

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Speaker 6: This was just a way for you know, it's an

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Speaker 5: And I think it's interesting.

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Speaker 5: They're both wearing the same thing.

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Speaker 2: You and I talked about Nicki Haley's answer on abortion.

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Speaker 5: Are you planning to get an abortion? No?

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Speaker 6: This the main issue that you care? And I think

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Speaker 6: And I think a lot of these Democrats that people

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Speaker 3: You mentioned that you live in New York City.

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Speaker 6: Oh, you know what, I think I Actually it was funny.

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Speaker 2: So you're in Whole Foods and you're on an escalator

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, this is listen, check me out all you want.

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Speaker 6: But your chance of ever being with me are at

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Speaker 2: So so Also, you did a video recently that I

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Speaker 2: When you did a hit saying I love toxic masculinity,

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Speaker 6: So I feel like toxic masculinity is actually the opposite,

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Speaker 6: Like I I think that the idea of traditional gender

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Speaker 6: things even though some women are like, oh, I can

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Speaker 6: do it myself, you know, lifting my suitcase up on

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Speaker 6: the plane. I'm all for a man being like I'm

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Speaker 6: doing this.

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Speaker 5: I'm a man. There's just so many.

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Speaker 6: Things that I think women you know, and I also,

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Speaker 6: you know, the idea of just like taking control.

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Speaker 5: I like that. I don't.

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Speaker 6: I don't need to be in control. I'm a very

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Speaker 6: I'm very much an alpha female. But I like when

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Speaker 6: a guy is able to take the reins, take the lead.

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Speaker 6: I don't see that it's putting me down or just

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Speaker 6: being dismissive in any way.

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Speaker 5: So I'm all for toxic masculinity. I want men to

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Speaker 5: continue being.

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Speaker 6: Men so that women, at least women like me, can

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Speaker 6: continue being women.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting, by the way, none of this stuff is

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Speaker 2: particularly crazy. There is a difference biologically between men and women,

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Speaker 2: and that existed for basically all of humanity until like

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Speaker 2: five years ago. And one of the things that you

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Speaker 2: and I are fired up about, and we've talked about

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Speaker 2: a bunch on this program, is the idea that a

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Speaker 2: man could decide to identify as a woman and win

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Speaker 2: a women's championship. And we're going to talk with Riley

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Speaker 2: Gaines on the OutKick special. It's going to be on

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Speaker 2: Fox News on Sunday. But a big part of that,

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Speaker 2: I think for making the decision to move Sage Steel

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Speaker 2: at ESPN. Who you know, you used to work at

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Speaker 2: ESPN as well, what does it say about where we

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Speaker 2: are as a society that an actual sports company. Many

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Speaker 2: people don't feel comfortable saying, hey, men who identify as

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Speaker 2: women shouldn't be women's champions.

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Speaker 3: How do we get here?

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Speaker 5: Well? I think we got here because people are afraid

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Speaker 5: to say anything.

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Speaker 6: It's not that they do not feel that that's how

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Speaker 6: things are and how things should be. I just think

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Speaker 6: that people are afraid of being labeled transphobic, or hateful

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Speaker 6: or bigoted, because that's what happens. I mean, even when

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Speaker 6: I started speaking up about it, as much as many

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Speaker 6: people would come to me quietly and say, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 6: thank you so much for saying this, you know, there

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Speaker 6: was all the other people that publicly would say, oh,

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Speaker 6: I cannot believe you'd say this.

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Speaker 5: I thought that you were an ally, you know, I

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Speaker 5: thought that you.

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Speaker 6: Supported LGBTQ rights, And in my response to them is,

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Speaker 6: you know, listen, the term ally I think is lame.

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Speaker 6: I'm not gonna like, you know, I don't want to, like,

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Speaker 6: I guess, exacerbate.

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Speaker 5: These liberal terms.

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Speaker 6: But I have no problem with people in the LGBTQ community.

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Speaker 6: I think everybody should have the same rights as everybody

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Speaker 6: else does, same opportunities. But that doesn't mean that you

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Speaker 6: can unfringe on a woman's face in order to exercise

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Speaker 6: what you now consider to be your right. So I

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Speaker 6: don't know, I just people just it's it's the same,

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Speaker 6: you know, same.

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Speaker 5: Old playbook page from that the left always uses.

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Speaker 6: They try to come at you immediately with oh, you're hateful,

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Speaker 6: you're transphobic, and then you suddenly get scared to speak up,

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Speaker 6: and then that forces you to not, you know, really

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Speaker 6: like take a hard stance, which is what you're doing,

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Speaker 6: what I'm doing, what Riley's doing. But I think I

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Speaker 6: think most people would agree that this is just a

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Speaker 6: common sense issue. This isn't a political issue. It's very

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Speaker 6: much common sense. And I'm hopeful that sooner or later

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Speaker 6: it'll get to the point where, you know, like we

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Speaker 6: had the Sam Ponders and saved steals at the ESPN,

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Speaker 6: now at Sam Ponder alone on an island, But hopefully

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Speaker 6: eventually there'll be more people speaking up to keep women's

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Speaker 6: sports women's sports.

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Speaker 3: Aymen, Charlie, I will see you on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: I hope people will enjoy watching us ten o'clock eastern

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Speaker 2: on Fox.

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Speaker 5: It's going to be a great show.

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Speaker 2: I hope so, I hope so. I think it's going

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Speaker 2: to go well. Ten o'clock eastern on Fox News. Charlie Arnault,

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Speaker 2: thank you for joining us. Appreciate all the good work.

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Speaker 3: At out Kick.

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Speaker 5: Thank you. Bye everyone.

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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, I think you guys are going

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Speaker 2: to enjoy It's a show that we are doing at

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Speaker 2: ten pm Eastern on Fox News. I'm up in New

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Speaker 2: York City. It's why we were filming it. I'd love

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Speaker 2: to hear feedback on it. We haven't ever done an

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Speaker 2: OutKick show on Fox News before, but I think it's

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Speaker 2: an important element that Fox News is adding. And I

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Speaker 2: feel fortunate to have this show every single day as well,

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Speaker 2: because it's just part of fighting battles for things that matter.

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Speaker 2: And I know so many of you out there, men

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Speaker 2: and women. You look around on a daily basis and

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Speaker 2: you just think to yourself, how in the world did

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Speaker 2: place where a man who decides to identify as a

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Speaker 2: woman is winning women's championships?

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Speaker 3: And if you look.

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Speaker 2: Around and raise your hand and say that doesn't feel

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Speaker 2: right to me, somehow, you are the individual who has

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Speaker 2: the unacceptable opinion. A big part of winning in the

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Speaker 2: marketplace of ideas, I think is just making people feel

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Speaker 2: like they can say what they actually think. I don't

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Speaker 2: I've said all week long here, or anything that you

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Speaker 2: agree with everything that Bucker I have said over the

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Speaker 2: past several years, as we've been fortunate to sit here

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Speaker 2: and talk to you every day for three hours. But

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Speaker 2: what I would hope you have recognized is no one

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Speaker 2: is fighting harder for free speech than this show. And

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Speaker 2: to the extent that we can expand the universe of

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Speaker 2: free speech and have so many of you out there

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Speaker 2: feeling like you can speak out without having to be

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Speaker 2: concerned about losing your jobs, that's a big victory because

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Speaker 2: we are on the right side of history. I truly

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Speaker 2: do believe this, and I've been on the road. I'm

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Speaker 2: excited to get back home. I'm hoping I'm gonna make

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Speaker 2: my flight this afternoon so i can get back home

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Speaker 2: for high school football with my kids. But I've been

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Speaker 2: on the road for the last three or four weeks,

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Speaker 2: as you guys know, with my book, American Playbook, which

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you guys making the best selling nonfiction book

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Speaker 2: in America. And I've been away from home a lot.

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Speaker 2: I've been in a lot of hotel rooms, been all

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Speaker 2: over the place. I've met thousands of you who listen

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Speaker 2: to this show all over the country. You guys have

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Speaker 2: been uniformly incredibly kind. But what I hear from you,

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Speaker 2: and this reason I'd love getting out and being able

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Speaker 2: to actually talk and meet face to face. What I

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Speaker 2: hear all the time is from so many of you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you and Buck for doing this show. You guys

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Speaker 2: say what I wish I could say. And I don't

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Speaker 2: take that privilege for granted, the fact that we get

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Speaker 2: to sit down and say exactly what we think to

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Speaker 2: the largest audience in radio every single day. I don't

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Speaker 2: take it for granted. I really don't. But what I

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Speaker 2: want to create is I want to win these battles

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Speaker 2: so that none of you out there are concerned about

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Speaker 2: whether or not you can keep your job when you

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Speaker 2: share your actual opinions. The fact that we have created

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Speaker 2: a world where a huge percentage of people don't feel

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Speaker 2: like they can say what they actually believe is the

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Speaker 2: pathway to totalitarianism, because you know how that works. Remember

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Speaker 2: back in the day when Saddam Hussein would have his

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Speaker 2: elections and he would say, well, people in Iraq will

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Speaker 2: love everything that I do. I just got ninety nine

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Speaker 2: point five percent of the vote, and they drag out

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Speaker 2: the other point five percent and they kill them next thing.

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Speaker 2: You know, you'll learn what happens if you're willing to

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Speaker 2: challenge the author Doxy for everybody out there as we

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Speaker 2: head into the weekend, challenge people in power, challenge the orthodoxy,

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Speaker 2: speak truth no matter the consequences, and join what I

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Speaker 2: believe is a massive revolution that is brewing in the

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Speaker 3: As we move towards twenty twenty four, speak.

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Speaker 2: Truth to power, and I guarantee you We're going to

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Speaker 2: continue to do this every single day on this show.

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Speaker 2: Can't wait for Buck to get back. Looking forward to Monday,

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Speaker 2: but I've had a tremendous time talking.

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Speaker 3: With all of you this week.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for letting me do this for a living,

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Speaker 2: and thank you for giving me the privilege to speak

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Speaker 2: with you every single day for three hours. We'll be

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Speaker 2: back on Monday. I hope all of you have fabulous weekends.

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Speaker 2: Good luck at all the high school football games. I

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Speaker 2: hope everybody's team wins. This has been playing buck. Another

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Speaker 2: week in the books.