WEBVTT - 12/13/21 DPS Hour 3 Carson Palmer 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:03.520 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:06.920 Sports Radio Final Hour in this Monday Dan and the 0:00:06.960 --> 0:00:10.600 Dan That's Dan Patrick Show, Big Game Tonight, rams at 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:16.000 the Cardinals got a mess in Jacksonville Packers bucks? Are 0:00:16.040 --> 0:00:20.120 they on a collision course again? The Chiefs win again. 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:24.439 Great defense, first team since the twenty fourteen Seahawks to 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:28.960 hold four opponents under ten points during a five games 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:33.600 span and Patrick Mahomes through his first touchdown passes in 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:38.040 the three game period here with the Chiefs defense holding 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:41.640 Vegas to single digits as the final was forty eight 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:44.519 to nine. Final Hour Best and Worst of the weekend. 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:47.120 Your phone call is always welcome. Eight seven seven three 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:52.120 DP show mclovin the poll question for the final hour. Okay, 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:55.720 we're debating over here. Paulie has one. Okay, you can 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:58.639 pick one. Okay, Packers get home field in the playoffs, 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:01.880 but no rest for Aaron Rodgers in his toe. Yeah, 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:03.720 this is going to be an issue here in the 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:06.360 final month of the season, the home stretch, this will 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:10.200 be an issue the extra game. Will Green Bay sit 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:13.160 Aaron Rodgers? You want to have home field advantage this time? 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:16.480 You get fans there, But do you want home field 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:20.319 advantage and maybe not as healthy or one hundred percent 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:23.360 version of Aaron Rodgers? Or would you sit him down? 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:26.440 You know you're gonna have Minnesota and then at Detroit 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:29.560 to end the season. What if Tampa is going to 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:34.800 secure home field advantage, then maybe have Aaron Rodgers sit down? Maybe, 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:37.800 but that's going to also affect who you meet in 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:40.920 that first round or second round, and that'll factor in 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:42.559 as well. But this is going to be an issue 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:46.199 for some teams with some players. Do you sit somebody down? 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:49.160 And in this case, Aaron Rodgers, you got to start 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:52.240 to think about it because, as he's talked about, he 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:55.240 may get that toe banged up and if he does, 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:59.440 surgery would be on the table. They have Baltimore at Baltimore, 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:05.080 they host Cleveland, they host Minnesota, than they're at Detroit, McLevin. 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:09.280 What else do you have? Okay? Should the Jaguars be 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:13.320 worried about Trevor Lawrence? Yes? Or no? Okay? Would you 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:19.399 be more worried about Trevor Lawrence or Urban Meyer? Because one, 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:25.000 I'm stuck with Trevor Lawrence. I would still like to 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:27.840 see him with talent around him. I think he needs 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:31.720 a better offensive mind to help him. And that's why 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:34.280 I go back to Ryan Day. Can you imagine if 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:37.720 Ryan Day replaced urban Meyer with Jacksonville at some point, 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:41.239 not this next season or maybe the year after that, 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:45.240 But you know, I wonder down the road, is Trevor 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:47.480 Lawrence going to get the coaching that he needs in 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:50.359 the NFL? And are you going to have the weapons 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:53.799 there to help him develop as well? But would I 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:56.400 be more concerned about Trevor Lawrence or urban Meyer? I 0:02:56.400 --> 0:03:00.520 would say urban Meyer just because I I don't think 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:03.079 he's made too many smart moves since he's been there 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:07.120 in Jacksonville. And I'm just talking about football decisions. You know, 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:09.320 we can look at what happened in that bar in Columbus. 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:13.360 That's a bad decision as well. But you know, you're 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:16.160 getting confrontational with your staff. Now, let's say they were 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:19.160 five and six on the year, five and seven on 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:21.440 the year, and he decides that he's going to air 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:24.840 out his assistant coaches. Do we say, man, I love that, 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:30.080 Oh boy, there's no quit. He wants them to be great. Well, 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:32.840 he doesn't get that luxury because he has not made 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:37.320 good decisions since he's been there. And now you know 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:40.840 people are leaking information. He's upset about it. I'd be 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:43.720 more concerned with him, because you know, the Jags took 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:45.960 a big swing in the offseason when they hired urban 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:50.640 They're trying to develop a new and well, hopefully improved culture. 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:52.800 But you know they've it's a swing and a miss 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:55.040 right now. They're two and eleven. They're not getting any better. 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:59.880 Trevor Lawrence through four interceptions, another embarrassing loss a divisional 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:03.200 rival in Tennessee. And to make matters worse, you have 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:06.280 these reports coming out of the locker room that he 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:11.480 allegedly called his assistant coaches losers. He's a winner, you're 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:16.599 a loser. Now, technically, I guess he's right. I guess 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:21.839 nobody thought the Jags were going to be contenders. But 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:24.920 you've got to see improvement. That's what you want to 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:28.640 see week by week. And it might be incremental, and 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:30.719 it might be really small, and it might be something 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:33.960 that doesn't show up to the you know, the casual 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:38.760 observer here. But you know urban Meyer used to have control, 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:41.760 clear control, and you can't have that college mentality. It 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:44.799 doesn't play in the NFL. And you know, urban Meyer 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:47.680 is the latest coach to find that out. But he's 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:50.720 under contract for the foreseeable future. But it's going to 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:55.200 be interesting to see the patience of Shad Khan allowing 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:57.359 the experiment to play out. What else do you have, 0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:00.960 n Clevin? Do you think the three play record is 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:08.320 causing problems for Steph Curry? Well over the last seventy 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:11.400 two hours. I have his game log. The last two games. 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:14.200 He was sorry night three for fourteen from three. The 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:17.279 night before that he was six for seventeen from three. Yeah, 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:19.560 that's a lot of threes with not a lot of 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:24.760 may threes. No Pacers and Nicks coming up right. I 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:27.919 think he'll be okay once he sets the record. I 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:31.360 think he'll be okay because he has done quite well 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:35.680 because of that three point rule. It may have heard 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:39.080 him the last two games just because he's pressing, but no, 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:41.680 I think he's gonna be okay. This is not the 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:44.400 Warriors coming down to Earth. And I give the seventy 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:47.320 six ers all the credit in the world. They played 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:51.400 great defense on Steph Curry, and you know that should 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:54.839 be factored in as well. They played great defense. Ye 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:58.200 ask McClean next question that you cannot answer. Who's winning 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:01.839 the AFC North, the rave the Browns, the Steelers or 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:04.839 the Bengals without even I'm not going to give you 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:08.280 the schedules, arid of you just instinctually who's who's got 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:12.120 the edge? So somebody has to win the AFC North technically, right, 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:20.080 somebody has to m Is anybody going to threaten in 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:25.640 the playoffs? I think is probably the bigger question. The 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:29.840 Ravens with Lamar Jackson can always do that. They can 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:31.640 always be you know, It's one of those teams that 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:34.960 you have to prepare for them, and you don't prepare 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:37.560 for that kind of offense weekend and week out, so 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:46.240 that makes it a little bit more challenging. I guess 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:52.680 the Browns I don't know. I mean health wise, getting 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:59.560 everybody back, Ravens got the Packers coming up this weekend. Yeah, 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:02.320 mcclo any chance this win over the Ravens, even though 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:04.120 it was Tyler Hunley, is like a turning point for 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:09.600 the Browns. I have no idea. I don't They're a 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:11.400 big mystery. I mean, there are a couple of teams 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:14.080 where you go, I have no idea, and the Browns 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:17.080 are right there. I did think it was interesting what 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:19.520 Albert Brier from the Monday Morning quarterback had to say 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:22.600 last hour because I said, look, there's no moral victory 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:26.040 for Buffalo, because you're supposed to be a Super Bowl contender. 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:29.240 The way they played in the fourth quarter, Boy, that's 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:33.480 a moral victory. Well it's it's still a loss and 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:37.120 you're fighting for survival in a division you were supposed 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:42.080 to dominate. Here's Albert Breer last Hour on the Buffalo Bills. 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:45.560 I actually think I think the Bills found something in 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:47.080 the second half of that game. And look, there are 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:49.240 no moral victories for a team that's been in the 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:52.760 playoffs three times in the last four years. But I 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:54.760 think they were sort of a team without an identity 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:57.440 against New England, and you still saw fight and I 0:07:57.480 --> 0:07:59.640 think the first half that game that really kind of 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:02.680 manifested the way that that got away from them. They 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:05.480 had nothing to literally lean back on. And then in 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:07.640 the second half, I just they ran the ball a 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:10.880 little bit more. I think Josh Allen played more under control, 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:14.640 the defense found itself a little bit and so I 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:16.760 actually think in the second half of that game and 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:20.640 into overtime, the Bills found something like if they wind 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:22.360 up running the table here, which if you look at 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:25.200 their schedule outside of the New England game, is pretty doable. 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:28.080 I think there's a possibility Dan that we look back 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:31.040 at that game in Tampa yesterday as a sort of 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:33.120 turning point. I know it sounds crazy because they won 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:35.440 thirteen games and went to the championship game last year, 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:37.319 but I really think that this was a team that 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:40.320 kind of lost itself over the last month, and I 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:42.280 really think that they found something in the second half 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:44.920 against the Bucks. I don't think they have an identity, 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:48.680 and Albert touched on that as well, that you're trying 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:51.319 to figure what is this identity or what is your 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:56.280 offensive identity? Defensive identity? Is their a finesse team, got 0:08:56.280 --> 0:09:00.840 a really good secondary, but they're just you think of 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:04.440 a team playing in that weather that they would be 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:08.200 built for that. Just a tough, physical defense and run 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:12.320 the football. I mean, Josh Allen was spectacular in that 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:15.880 second half, but you gotta do it weekend in week out. 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:20.280 You throw for three hundred, you rush for one hundred, 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:24.719 that's great, but you got to be consistently great if 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:26.880 you're going to beat these teams and beat them on 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:30.079 the road. Eight seven seven three d P Show email 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:32.440 address DP at dan Patrick dot com, Twitter handle at 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:35.320 DP show still have time to go do your holiday 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:38.000 shopping at dan patrick dot com. Just want to make 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:41.600 sure that we are given enough time to get all 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:44.640 the things you want and you'll get that in time 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:47.440 for the holidays. Ye see Wednesday, final day for shipping. 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:51.880 Oh Wednesday? 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Oh, by the way, one of my favorite 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:37.480 days in NBA history happened today in nineteen eighty three. 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:42.160 Guys going to guess it wasn't one of my favorite days. 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:45.440 It was one of my favorite nights in the NBA 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:48.959 nineteen eighty three. Yes, Paulie, I can't remember the teams. 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:50.480 Is that that game where it was like one seventy 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:54.400 nine one eight four nine something like that. It was 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:58.600 one eighty six to one eighty four, the highest scoring 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:02.280 game in NBA history. The Distance beat the Nuggets. Isaiah 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:05.800 had forty seven, John Long forty one, Kelley Tripuka had 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:11.880 thirty five. The Nuggets had fifty one from Kiki Vanderway 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:15.800 and forty seven from Alex English. This game is on 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:18.920 NBA TV right now. Yes, point, we have it on 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:21.320 the screen and Bill Lambier, the former Piston center, just 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:25.520 airball to free throw. I've never seen that before, No 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:29.240 long time. That could have added one more point to 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:33.840 the one eighty six one eighty four game, highest scoring 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:37.920 game in NBA history. Imagine if you're Alex English, you 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:40.600 put up forty seven, you were the second highest scorer 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:43.040 for your team. Or John Long put up to forty one, 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:51.080 he's the second highest scorer. Kekey Vanderway. Kekey Vanderway was sneaky, sneaky, 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:56.160 great a great air, great shot, he could go, he 0:11:56.200 --> 0:12:01.400 could fake right, go left and dunk on your left handed. Yeah, 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:06.200 Kee Kee, Vanderway, Alex English flick. He just had a 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:10.520 real high release point. John Long wasn't the University of 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:13.480 Detroit and then went to the Pistons and then of 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:16.800 course Isaiah Kelly Trapuca at thirty five. Yeah. Point, I 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:18.920 have an Isaiah Thomas theory that he's not going to 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:22.439 get to do historically because he's not that liked by 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:25.600 a lot of people. You saw him play as much 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:28.240 as anybody. There's no denying he's one of the great 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:31.000 NBA point guards of all time. Correct, Yeah, he doesn't 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:33.160 seem to be lauded that much when they talk about 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:36.000 great players. I think we forget about him and then 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:38.160 somebody will go what about Isaiah, And then we go, oh, yeah, 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:39.960 I try it. I mean, he won a national title, 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:45.400 but I I think when you saw him play, you 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:49.520 thought he was phony. I mean not how he played, 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:55.520 but just the personality. But he was a killer out there. Yeah, 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:58.600 I'm the club the fake smile and you know if 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:01.600 it was fake score twenty four points on Mo Cheeks 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:04.120 in a fourth quarter once? Yeah, because he didn't score 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:07.040 as much as he could, right, No, And I think 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:09.640 you know that's another thing that it always felt like 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:14.360 he was a nineteen eleven guy, but he it felt 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:17.520 like he could get forty if he wanted to. But yeah, 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:21.200 Likeaiah was a great player, yampom. But his stats are 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:23.920 pretty similar to Magic Johnson. Not as much winning, not 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:26.559 as much flair. But I think Mattic johnson career is 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:30.120 like nineteen and ten nineteen eleven, Isaiah's like nineteen and ten. Yeah, 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:33.520 their stats are pretty similar. Isaiah had just as many 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:40.280 twenty point plus seasons. Who would you rather have? Magic's 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:42.640 just the nightmare? Right, isn't the matchup nightmare? Yeah? You 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:46.000 can't pass on him? Yes, when your point guard is 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:49.600 six to nine? Like you love mismatches in the NBA 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:54.200 Magic Magic could score forty. We saw that in an 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:58.800 NBA finals. He had that ability to play all five positions. 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:04.640 Uh yeah, Magic was like, that's that's one of the 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:08.040 original Unicorns. Yes, side Toprica. Did you guys happen to 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:11.440 see the trailer for the New Lakers show on HBO 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:14.720 or Showtime? I did not. It's got Jason Segel's Paul 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:18.560 west Head, John Riley is uh as the bus and 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:21.480 there's a young guy who plays Magical exactly like him. 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:25.920 It looks like our wheelhouse. Yeah, you know, Will Farrell 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:28.600 was supposed to be up for I think Jerry Buss 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:34.200 and Adam McKay, his partner, had to tell him that 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:36.720 he was not going to get the job, and I 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:41.400 think that that ended their friendship at John c Right, 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:46.320 who's you know. Will Farrell's good buddy from step Brothers 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:49.520 and he gets that he gets the role of Jerry 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:55.040 Buss and Will Farrell is told by Adam McKay, his partner, 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:58.280 that he's not going to get that, and uh caused 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:01.040 the break up their friendship. We'll take a break. Carson 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:03.960 Palmer will join us. Coming up next, This is the 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:07.880 Dan Patrick Show. Discover is going to match all the 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:09.880 cashmac you earn on your credit card at the end 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:12.760 of your first year automatically and with the shopping season, 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:15.880 that could be a lot of money with no limit 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:18.040 on how much you can earn. 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Make love and update the poll results. 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:18.040 If you were the Packers, would you rest Aaron Rodgers? 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:20.640 Is the question, and sixty five percent say no. To start. 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:25.000 Let me start there with Carson Palmer Carson Packers. Let's 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:26.760 say you had to pick one. They get home field 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:29.480 advantage in the playoffs, but no rest for Aaron Rodgers, 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:33.640 Or you rest Aaron Rodgers for a couple of games 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:36.960 and he starts the playoffs completely healthy with no home 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:41.080 field advantage. Well, I don't think it's a guarantee that 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:43.240 if you rest Aaron for a week or two weeks 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:45.360 or three weeks, that he gets back to one hundred percent. 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:47.240 When you're talking about a broken bone and a foot, 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:49.520 it could take a month. So at the end of 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:51.680 the day, when you combine that with the fact that 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:55.320 the Green Bay Packer home field advantage is probably unlike 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:57.880 any other in the league. When you've got weather concerns 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:00.280 that an opposing team has to come in and that 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:03.440 fan base doesn't sell their tickets, that fan base shows 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:05.280 up to the game, they're not selling their tickets to 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:08.520 potential opposing fans where they're going to lose some of 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:11.560 that crowd noise. So I think it's too important to 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:13.879 keep that number one seed and keep that advantage in 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:18.040 their favor. Explain this as a former quarterback of the 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:21.240 pinky toe on his left foot is plant foot as 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:24.840 opposed to his right foot. How does that affect your throwing? 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:28.720 I really don't think it should affect it that much. 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:31.480 I mean, as far as is today's you know, with 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:33.639 all the equipment and the things and the footbeds you 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:36.040 can put, the orthotics that you can put in a 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:39.159 shoe to really help protect that pinky toe. I think 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:41.120 that's going to be really nice. I'm sure that their 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:43.359 training staff is on top of that, bringing in a 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:46.320 consultant or a specialist that can create some sort of 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:49.840 footbed in his shoe to protect it as much as possible. 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:53.120 But where it really limits him is when he takes 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:55.120 off and runs. It's not so much the throwing. It's 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:58.120 not planning and stepping and rotating into throws. It's when 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:00.479 he needs to extend to play and get outside pocket 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:02.480 and take off on third down with his legs where 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:05.560 the biggest concern will be. And also when you watch 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:08.600 him throw, as you've talked about, you tell young quarterbacks 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:11.080 don't try to emulate Aaron Rodgers. He has so many 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:13.240 of those off balance throws. He's not really one of 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:15.879 those I'm going to step into a throw and plant 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:19.240 with my left leg. No, He's got that Bryson to 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:22.000 Shambo swing where right at impact and right when the 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:24.120 ball's coming out. A lot of the times his back 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:27.359 foot is off the ground, he's already accelerated through the 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:29.040 throw and gotten his hip through the throw and that 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:31.639 foot comes off the ground. And like you're saying, with 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:34.800 these young quarterbacks, there's so many guys coaching keep all 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:38.280 seven studs. You have seven studs on each cleat, seven 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:41.240 cleats that are coming out of the bottom of the 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:44.320 foot of the cleat. And we're always taught as youngsters 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:46.880 is keeping those seven studs in the ground to get 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:49.439 as much ground force as you can, to create as 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:52.400 much velocity in the throw. And so Aaron just does 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:54.320 it different. I still don't know how he does it. 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:56.320 We need a physicist to come in and explain it 0:18:56.359 --> 0:18:58.920 to all of us. But he very rarely has all 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:03.240 seven studs in the grass. We asked this question earlier 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:06.399 on the show. You could have Justin Herbert or Joe Burrow. 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:10.359 Who do you want? I would take Herbert right now. 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:13.479 I mean, he is so special and so so different 0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:16.880 physically athletically, he is so gifted. And I'm not saying 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:20.280 anything about Joe that that he's not. He doesn't have 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:23.159 the velocity on and the RPMs on the football. He 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:27.080 doesn't have the long ball ability with the touch that 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:29.919 Justin's shown. Joe's got another set of traits that are 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:34.040 that are spectacular, and his confidence, his knowledge of the game, 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:37.080 his coolness and calmness in the pocket are spectacular, and 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:40.159 those are outliers compared to other quarterbacks in the league. 0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:42.440 But when you just look at the raw talent and 0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:45.679 the raw athleticism of Justin Herbert, there aren't many like him. 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:48.560 I mean, maybe Patrick Holmes is on the same level. Um, 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:51.480 there's probably another guy or two that you can when 0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:54.800 you watch them play, they do absolutely off the charts 0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:58.080 things physically. But right now, I think I think Justin 0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:03.160 Herbert has more athletic ability and more physical just physical 0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:05.800 rawness that you can't teach. You can't coach, you can't 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:07.480 show a guy how to do. He just has it. 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:12.600 Can a quarterback run too much? Absolutely? Absolutely? I mean 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:14.800 I agree. When I was coming up in the league, 0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:16.879 Michael Vick was a guy I loved watching play and 0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:20.120 still loved watching his highlights. You know, he ran a lot, 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:22.480 and he took a pounding and it caught up to 0:20:22.560 --> 0:20:26.080 him at some point. And you know, I used to 0:20:26.359 --> 0:20:28.160 joke around with him. I'd see him at different events 0:20:28.160 --> 0:20:30.560 and even vic when he was running for one, he 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:32.800 would always get that last couple of yards going out 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:35.399 of bounds, and it wasn't a bone crushing hit, but 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:37.399 he would just get shoved and then there'd be a 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:40.159 cameraman or a third down marker in his way, and 0:20:40.200 --> 0:20:42.800 he'd end up falling and rolling out of bounds and 0:20:42.880 --> 0:20:44.879 landing on his shoulder and his neck and his ankle, 0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:48.600 and just all these little incremental hits add up, especially 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:52.240 when you talk about a guy going into year eight, nine, ten, twelve, fifteen. 0:20:52.560 --> 0:20:54.639 So absolutely, I think you can run too much and 0:20:54.920 --> 0:20:57.920 take an unnecessary amount of pounding on your body. Yeah, 0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:01.440 I thought Michael Vick was a boat action like talent, 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:04.399 but he just didn't put in the time in the 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:07.359 I think he had God given ability, and I don't 0:21:07.440 --> 0:21:11.040 you know, unlike like Michael Jordan or you know, athletes 0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:13.960 of that, like Tiger, they had that god given ability, 0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:17.760 but they had the desire to be unbelievably great. And 0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:20.080 I always thought that, you know, Michael took it for 0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:24.840 granted that he was just athletically gifted and he could 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:28.720 have been so much better. I never felt like that, 0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:33.159 And I don't know, you know, individual study habits of 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:36.720 guys and can't comment on that, but I loved watching 0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:39.080 him play. I thought he was as unique a talent 0:21:39.160 --> 0:21:41.119 as any of us have ever seen. There may not 0:21:41.280 --> 0:21:44.560 be another mike Vic, but I don't know as far 0:21:44.600 --> 0:21:48.600 as study, habits and desire. Every time I've been around him, 0:21:48.640 --> 0:21:52.240 he absolutely loves the game. He knows the game, and 0:21:52.320 --> 0:21:54.560 from coaches that I've been around, like coach Mora and 0:21:54.640 --> 0:21:56.960 a handful of others, loved working with him and loved 0:21:57.000 --> 0:22:00.800 everything that he brought to the team. Watching the Buffalo Bills, 0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:03.399 We're talking to Carson Palmer watching the Bills yesterday. They 0:22:03.480 --> 0:22:05.400 kind of woke up in the fourth quarter. I don't 0:22:05.400 --> 0:22:09.399 know if they found something after they had something missing 0:22:09.440 --> 0:22:12.320 for the last couple of weeks here. But I just 0:22:12.800 --> 0:22:15.280 I don't know what their identity is, Carson. I don't 0:22:15.320 --> 0:22:17.600 know if they know what kind of team they are. 0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:20.680