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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan. In this episode number one thirteen,

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Speaker 1: tay the show, Dan and I are discussing the most

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Speaker 1: important summer preparations you and we need to take care

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Speaker 1: of before hunting season arrives. All right, welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Wired to Hunt podcast, brought to you by Sitka Gear.

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Speaker 1: Today it's just Dan and I and we're gonna be

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Speaker 1: chatting about out summer deer hunting preparations. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: through what Dan and I are currently working on, as

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Speaker 1: well as some additional recommendations for you know, all the

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Speaker 1: different things that you and we should be thinking about

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Speaker 1: and working on during these summer months leading up to

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Speaker 1: hunting seasons. So that's the plan for the next hour

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Speaker 1: or two. Dan, what do you think about that? Hey,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about summer prep. Yeah, I mean, it's uh,

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Speaker 1: what beginning of August, So hopefully most of us have

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Speaker 1: already been working on things, but if not, this is

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Speaker 1: like that final month to really get things done. I

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Speaker 1: don't know about you, but I always try, you know,

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Speaker 1: with an October one opener in Michigan, my goal has

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Speaker 1: always have everything done by the end of August, so

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Speaker 1: that all September the property is untouched. Is kind of

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Speaker 1: the way I approach it. Um. So that means for me,

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Speaker 1: the next thirty days are gonna be super busy. Yep.

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Speaker 1: And that's exactly that is exactly what I I call

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Speaker 1: September my layoff period. And I don't I try. I

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Speaker 1: except maybe check a trail camera if I'm in the area.

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Speaker 1: But it tries to try to lay off the property

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Speaker 1: as much as possible. Yeah, it can be. It can

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Speaker 1: be tough, right, I mean, that is the time when

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Speaker 1: we're so excited to get out there and see what's

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Speaker 1: moving around and try to put together planned But I

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Speaker 1: really think it's important if you can to let that

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Speaker 1: a while. Rum. I think it makes a big difference.

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Speaker 1: You know, even in a perfect world, you would leave

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Speaker 1: it sitting for months. I mean, some people get all

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Speaker 1: let it sit for a while. I've never been able

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I tell you. You know, one

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Speaker 1: one way to lay off your hunting property for an

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Speaker 1: entire month is have two children. And I thought that

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Speaker 1: might be where this is going. They they're they're very

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Speaker 1: good at keeping you busy and not on white tail

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Speaker 1: hunting related Uh you know activities, dude, there's always a

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Speaker 1: silver lining, right, that's right, this is this is so,

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Speaker 1: this is a good thing that the family helps you

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Speaker 1: from messing yourself up, keeps you from messing yourself up, exactly,

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Speaker 1: you know they they I like how I like how

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Speaker 1: we're turning this into a positive. Right. They helped me

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Speaker 1: not check my trail cameras as much as I want

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Speaker 1: to help you overhunt tree stands exactly. They helped me, uh,

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Speaker 1: hunt the property. Thanks, honey, man, I'm sorry. Oh it's cool.

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Speaker 1: You know, it works itself out. And you know, I

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Speaker 1: it to you that way that I'm gonna be able

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Speaker 1: So okay, we've got we have I don't like twenty

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Speaker 1: while I'm doing that, I'm also going to transition my

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Speaker 1: I have to finish the food plot that I started, Okay,

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Speaker 1: So now I have to completely redo a food plot essentially. Um,

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Speaker 1: So I want some more spots here. So those are

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Speaker 1: I just need to check cameras and move them to

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go through those lists of the things,

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Speaker 1: what I'm doing in regardsless tree stand Here's why I'm

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Speaker 1: I think that's a solid idea. How about we try

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Speaker 1: to do it in chronological order of what needs to

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Speaker 1: I'll let you start, all right, but real quick before

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Speaker 1: sickest story of the week, and today story comes from

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Speaker 1: a sick Gear employee, Garrett Long, And the story today

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Speaker 1: is about a very special white tail hunt, not because

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Speaker 1: of a huge deer or some epic encounter, but because

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Speaker 1: of something much more powerful, a shared experience with a

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Speaker 1: loved one. So this last year, and probably that my

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Speaker 1: and and uh, that was a big deal to me, because,

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Speaker 1: as you know, experiences are never as good if you

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Speaker 1: can't share them. And that was that was a big thing,

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Speaker 1: knowing that from now on, you know, having your wife

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Speaker 1: a big deal. That is a big deal. And this

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Speaker 1: And if you'd like to learn more about Sita Gear products,

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Speaker 1: you can visit Sitka gear dot com. And now let's

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Speaker 1: get back to the show and discussing our summer prep work. Alright,

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Speaker 1: so let's see, the first thing I have to deal

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Speaker 1: So so I got back home to Michigan yesterday and

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Speaker 1: UM number two, I get to this set, and what

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Speaker 1: one spot that I've consistently always gotten like great summer pictures.

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Speaker 1: that's a lot of that's you could do a lot

429
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,880
Speaker 1: of things. But so when that first deer, I'm cashing in.

430
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 1: When that first do I understand, I understand that the

431
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: desire to do that, that's for sure. It's worth it.

432
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:47,159
Speaker 1: It's worth it. Um. Although I gotta say when you

433
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 1: when you talk, when you talk about that, look at

434
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 1: something like Lee and Tiffany, who have like five hundred

435
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: acres of food plots. Can you imagine the costs they

436
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: put into that? What cost? Well, they probably get all

437
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,360
Speaker 1: that for free. I hope they do, because if not,

438
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 1: that that's some serious money, right. But there are guys

439
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: out there who, yeah, put in a ton of food

440
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 1: plots and they don't get the discs, they don't get

441
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: the industry discounts. Yeah, it definitely helps have ever talked

442
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 1: about the Bell curve of hunting before. You've mentioned it before,

443
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 1: but enlighten us, it's this, it's this funny thing I

444
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 1: discovered at one point. Um. You know, when you first

445
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 1: start hunting, right, you are just getting into it. You

446
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,360
Speaker 1: just have some random stuff. You're Dan Johnson. You wear

447
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 1: like a hooded sweatshirt, jeans and like you throw a

448
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: spear that kind of thing. Um, So you're not spending

449
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 1: a lot of money yet. Then you get into a

450
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 1: little bit more. You're moving up the bell curve. You know,

451
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 1: the bell curve looks like right right, it's just like

452
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 1: you know, half an egg going up up, up like

453
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: a roller coaster and then it comes back down. So

454
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: you're moving up into the right. Is you go up

455
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: into the right you know on the on the gosh,

456
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: what's that the X axis if you're thinking of a chart,

457
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 1: at the X acts say, is like how into hunting

458
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: you are, and the Y access the up and down access.

459
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: That's how much money you spend on hunting. So as

460
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 1: you go more into being more into hunting, now you

461
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 1: want a new bow, you want new tree stands, you

462
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: want new camouflage. So now you're spending more and more money.

463
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: This whole thing came around because this is what I

464
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 1: tried to tell my wife when I was spending so

465
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: much money on honey. Was like, honey, honey, the bell

466
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: curve of hunting. I'm working my way up. So as

467
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 1: you continue getting more and more into hunting, you spend

468
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 1: more and more money until you reach this point where

469
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: some company is willing to give you something for free,

470
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: and then your costs go down a little bit. And

471
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: then as you continue to get more and more hunting,

472
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 1: you get a little bit more free stuff, and then

473
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 1: your costs start going down. So if anyone ever complains

474
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 1: about how much money they're spending on hunting, or their

475
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: wives are telling them that, you just can tell them

476
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 1: I'm moving on the bell curve. Someday I'll get better.

477
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 1: That's been what I've tried to convince my wife of

478
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,199
Speaker 1: at least. So is she what what she said? Did

479
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 1: she just ignore you? She basically, yeah, it ignores me,

480
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: shakes her head, tells me I'm an idiot, right, But

481
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: what I would like to know is, with that bell curve,

482
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: does the you know, the further the more you get

483
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 1: into hunting, does your success rate for harvest actually go

484
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: up with that. That's a great question, I said, probably

485
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 1: various for everyone. Yeah, I don't know if it I

486
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: don't know if it necessarily does or not. No, if

487
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: you listen to this podcast, hopefully it does. Hopefully we

488
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: are that inflection point. But what the heck was that about.

489
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: There's something I was going to talk about before I

490
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: get sidetracked with my stupid bell curve. Um, I don't

491
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 1: even know your hunting man. I was about deer hunting,

492
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: but food plots. We talked about food plots. Oh, you know.

493
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 1: I won't get into the details of what I need

494
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: to do on mind still, but it's just weed issues

495
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: is my big thing yet. Yeah, well, you know, so

496
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: I've got these two big food plots on my main

497
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 1: Scream property, but they're an annuals so I have to

498
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: replant them every late summer. So what that meant for

499
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: me the spring was I sprayed everything so it would

500
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: be dead. And then, um, I was trying to get

501
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 1: someone to come again in July or so, or late

502
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: June or July while I was gone, spread all a

503
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: second time so that it was still debts. Anything new

504
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: that grew up while I was gone would be dead.

505
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: I'd be able to come back here in August. When

506
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: I got here, disk get up myself plant m V

507
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: a piece of cake. Um well, I first tried to

508
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 1: hire someone to do it while I was gone. They

509
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: said they couldn't do it, kind of last minute, so

510
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: I found a friend to help out. I really really

511
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: appreciate him helping me out and spraying stuff. But he

512
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 1: missed a very substantial portion of one of the food plots.

513
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: I don't I haven't even talked to him about it yet.

514
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if he just didn't realize that was

515
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: part of the food plot or what. Um, but like

516
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: two thirds of my main food plot, like where I

517
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: killed my buck last year, that is like five ft

518
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: tall weeds like an acre and a half. So like

519
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: I walked in there yesterday and like almost wanted to cry. So,

520
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: if this guy is listening to the podcast right now,

521
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 1: do not answer your phone with marketing and calls. No,

522
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: I'll just curse him out once and then'll be No.

523
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 1: I really appreciate him helping me at all, but um

524
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: but yes, and now I've got to find someone who

525
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: has a mower then come and mow it all down.

526
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: And then I gotta get rid of all that extra vegetation,

527
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: spray it all again, and then go for the whole process.

528
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: So you know it's a process. But what are what's

529
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: a date that you're looking to have your seed in

530
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: the ground and just wait for the rain and it's

531
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: time to grow. So all my planning dates revolver on

532
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: the rain. So I wait until I see a good

533
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: day of rain, or more hopefully a couple of days

534
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: of rain, but I will I only plant like the

535
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: night before rain. You always want that rain to come

536
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: as soon as possible after you plan. So ideally though,

537
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: I'd like to plant my brassicas in like did mid August.

538
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: It would be a deal. And then my oats because

539
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: I'm doing half oats half breasts because those will be

540
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: probably that last week in August. So perfect world, I'd

541
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: like my Braskas in the ground by August fifteen and

542
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: my oats in the ground by like August or something. Okay,

543
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: So if the weather cooperates, that's what I'll be doing.

544
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: I got some time, then, yeah, yeah, you got some time. Um,

545
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: it can't hurt, you know, to get in a little earlier.

546
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,479
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be the end of the world. If it's

547
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: a little later, but just somewhere in that time from

548
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,719
Speaker 1: um the best I've gotten them in, you know, like

549
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: August tenth or something like that, and they're just big

550
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: and lush and awesome by the time obtow our first

551
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: rolls around. Um, that's that's pretty ideal because then it's

552
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: got a lot of time to grow those tubers. You know,

553
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: if you've got some radishes or turn ups or anything

554
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: in there in your mix, which on which the winter

555
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,239
Speaker 1: greens do have turn ups and stuff in there, if

556
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: you get those in a little earlier, you're gonna have

557
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: more chance for those bulbs to grow. So then not

558
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: only are they eating leaves up top above the surface,

559
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: but then later in the year they're also di up

560
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: the ground and eating the actual tubers and stuff underneath.

561
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: So right added food. So so tree stands, I want

562
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: to I want to move to tree stands now, um

563
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: and talk through specifically what we're doing in our case

564
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: and what kind of the things we should be thinking

565
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: about this time year when it comes to summer deer

566
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: stand prep, because I think lots of people are doing

567
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: that right now. Um, everyone's getting out there hanging their stands,

568
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: figure out where they're gon be hunting. Um. So you

569
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: said you have six stands still to hang, yeah, um,

570
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: And the majority of them are going to be easy.

571
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: I'd say four of them are going to be traditional

572
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: pinch point rut spots where I have several years worth

573
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: a trim. I just need to go hang the stand

574
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: up and um, you know, see if anything's fallen in

575
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: the shooting lanes. Pretty simple. The other two are adjust

576
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: you know, micromanaged tree stand locations where I need to

577
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: move it because I noticed the previous year that the

578
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: movement was coming, you know, I feel that I would

579
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: have a better chance of intercepting a you know, a

580
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: cruising buck or um, a buck with you know, by

581
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: moving the tree stand you know, ten yards or whatnot.

582
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: And then the other one is a completely new area

583
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: that um I noticed last year that they were this.

584
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: A buck in a dough made a mistake mid season

585
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: last year and I saw him come out of this

586
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: really steep ravine that I didn't think a lot of

587
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: deer we're gonna we're traveling, and uh so I put

588
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: a trail camera up, got a lot of activity and

589
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: I'm going to be setting up a tree stand, um

590
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: in that location. Which is going to be a son

591
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: of a gun. So it sounds like all the stands

592
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: you're hanging now are based off of previous year observations.

593
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: Is that right? A majority of the stuff that I'm

594
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: hanging right now, yes, Yeah. And then I have a

595
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: running gun set that you know is directly for my

596
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: early season where you know, hey, I want to go

597
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: hunt of you know, you know, a trail leading to

598
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: a food source. I'm gonna you know, I'll just do

599
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: a quick setup right there, or if I'm gonna, you know,

600
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: hunt a different Preacher property around here. So yeah, you

601
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: know what, I think something you mentioned there and we

602
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: talked about this on some past episode it kind of

603
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: rings a bell for me. Um, But I want to

604
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,719
Speaker 1: touch on again, is those tweaks. I think that's like

605
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: one of the biggest hurdles to get from being just

606
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: like an average deer hunter who sees some nice day

607
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: every once in a while to being that guy or

608
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: a girl that consistently kills them ature buck is being

609
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: willing to well, being a noticing when you need to

610
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: make a small change, and then b and I think

611
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: this is the toughest part actually doing it. Um, you know,

612
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: I struggle this sometimes where like I'm like, I know,

613
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: I really should be in that tree instead of this tree.

614
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: But sometimes you know, you get lazy and you're like, well,

615
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: I'm already here, I can see the deer. Why do

616
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: I really need to make a five yard move or something?

617
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: But right, I mean, it's the small little things like

618
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: that that make the big difference. And it's a it's

619
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: definitely a thought process, right, you have to be able

620
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: to think a certain way. You can't think like, oh,

621
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: he's out of my shooting lane. You have to think

622
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: I have to be over there, and then why is

623
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: set on my shooting too? Exactly? Why do you need

624
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: to move your uh stand to where he was going

625
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: or where he's coming from, or just straight up closer

626
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: to the encounter that you had. So I'm going to

627
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: be moving this one. Um, this one. It's not really

628
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: a funnel, but it's a it's a pinch point. It's

629
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: kind of a pinch point. It's off of a pinch point.

630
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: A ways, I got a tree stand. I'm literally moving

631
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: it to the next tree this year because I had

632
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: all these bucks were cruising not necessarily they were at

633
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: the long end of my shooting lane. And I need

634
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: I just feel more comfortable. Instead of taking a thirty

635
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: five yard shot, I want to take a twenty five

636
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: yard shot. And and that's it's those small little adjustments

637
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: that you know, increasing your decreasing that range that could

638
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: make all the difference this season. And then the worst

639
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: feeling in the world is if you think that in

640
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: your head, you're like, I really should do this. I

641
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: know I should move this for this reason and that reason.

642
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: But something happens or you just get lazy and you

643
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: don't do it, and then you're sitting that tree stand

644
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: next year or this coming fall, and that deer comes

645
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 1: through just like you thought he would, but now he's

646
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: out of your range because you didn't move. Like how

647
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: crappy is that feeling? Right? And I don't know how

648
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 1: many guys either email or Facebook. They send me emails

649
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: and they're like, hey, Dan, I see all these deer

650
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: working right here. Here's my tree stand. What should I do? Uh?

651
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: Move your tree stand? I mean, it's it's it can

652
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: be that simple. They're as well one alternative, and I

653
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: think you're right. Option number one is always adjust or

654
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: tree stand location to the movement. But sometimes there are

655
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: situations where you can't for some reason, or maybe your

656
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: tree is in just the perfect spot for access or

657
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: exit or whatever. Sometimes you know, you can manipulate the

658
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: deer to move closer to you. And that's another great

659
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: summer dear project too. You know, if there's a situation

660
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 1: like that where you want to be in this tree

661
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: for some reason, you're very strongly set on that, but

662
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: the deer passing at thirty five and you want twenty five,

663
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: you know, and we've talked about this before too. You know,

664
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: lay down a couple of trees over that one trail

665
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: and divert them to the trailer it's ten years closer

666
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: to you. Or if they cross the fence in a

667
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: couple of spots in front of you, block the fence

668
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: that's forty yards away and open it up at fift um.

669
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: Those little manipulations, all these little tweaks, like at this

670
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: time in the summer, I think if you're the guy

671
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: or girl who has, you know, your property already set,

672
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: you've hunted it for years and years, now is when

673
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: you want to be making the tiny little tweaks that

674
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: you know, really put you in the position for all

675
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: the variables to be as lined up as possible, those

676
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: little those little adjustments that you know, I really try

677
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: to sit down this time of year and think they're Okay,

678
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: this tree stands in a great spot. I've had success

679
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: in the past, But what tiny thing could I could

680
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: I do to make it a little better? You know.

681
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: Maybe it's that little movement. Maybe it's you know, you know,

682
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: like I said, laying a tree down. Maybe it's one

683
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: more branch needs to be cut. Maybe it's adding a

684
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: little bit of extra cover to the tree around me.

685
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: Maybe it's greasing the tree stand because I think it

686
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: has to be just a little bit quieter. Or once

687
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: I had an issue with the seat in November making noise,

688
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna make sure agrease that now so that

689
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 1: November it'll be good and quiet. You know. It's thinking

690
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: through all that kind of stuff now so that when

691
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 1: you actually go out there to hunt, you're not dealing

692
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: with that crap. Let me let me put it to

693
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: you this way. Where I start off, let's say, either

694
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: a rut vacation or when I really start hitting it

695
00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: harder in late October. Where I start off, and let's

696
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: even even if it's a pre hung tree stand, I

697
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: very rarely am sitting in that stand when I have

698
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: an encounter with a bigger, more mature deer or a

699
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 1: deer from my hit list, because I am constantly moving

700
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: and tweaking throughout the entire season. Where these these tree

701
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 1: stands that I'm going to be hanging this month are

702
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: starting points and that's most of the time, that's all

703
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 1: they are. Yeah, and and hopefully you know, in some cases,

704
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: you know they're starting points because you're you know, like

705
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: you said, you're learning a new spot, figuring out, then adjusting,

706
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: or hopefully you are taking what was a starting point

707
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: last year maybe and now moving it from last year

708
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: to an end point this year by making the adjustment

709
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: you had to, or maybe it's three years worth of

710
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: adjustments and now you're making the final step to get

711
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: to that perfect spot or the perfect tweak. Um. But yeah,

712
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: this is that time you're to you know, go through

713
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: your list to stand like literally, this isn't a bad

714
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: exercise to do right down every one of your stand

715
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: locations that you currently have up and think through like

716
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 1: at least one way you can improve that set this month,

717
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: and then think through you know, maybe you've got a

718
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 1: plan of three more stands you want to hang and

719
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: just go through and think about that stand location, all

720
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: the variables you need to think about when you do

721
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: hang that one as that new starting point, you know,

722
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: I you got to be thinking about so many things

723
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 1: when hanging a tree stand. It's not just you know,

724
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: at least when I first started hunting, it was like, okay,

725
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: where are there going to be dear, Okay, I'm gonna

726
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: hang my tree there or hang my stand there, And

727
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: that's like where most hunters just start. And then you

728
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 1: start thinking, Okay, you know, maybe I'm gonna start thinking

729
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: about wind So how do I hang my tree stand

730
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: in such a way that you know I'm not going

731
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: to be winded? And then you realize, okay, it's not

732
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: just that. Now I also need to be in a

733
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: tree that I'm gonna be hidden in, so I need

734
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: enough cover. And then you get a little bit better

735
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: and you realize, not only do any of her, but

736
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: I also still need to have shooting lanes, and then

737
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: I need to be a fair how to get in

738
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 1: and out of that tree stand? And now I got

739
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: to think about how high in the tree gotta I

740
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: gotta be thinking about, you know, having the right gear

741
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: from quiet in the tree. I mean, there's umpteen different

742
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: little details that even go into this one small step

743
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 1: of hunting, you know, getting the tree stand right right.

744
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: And just to elaborate on what you just said, here

745
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: is how I play a game. It's not necessarily a game.

746
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: And yeah, I find this location right that I want

747
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 1: to have a tree stand in right, and I'll just

748
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: put a finger on the map or I'll put a

749
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: mark right on this map, and I'll say, all right,

750
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,720
Speaker 1: this is a good spot. This is a good area.

751
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: Now a how do I access it? All right, b

752
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: I've accessed it. And then you play the wind game

753
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: and then you're like, okay, is that wind a can

754
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: I act? Is that a good or bad? Access with

755
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: that wind? Okay, it's good? Okay, Now I can hunt it. Okay,

756
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: I'm in the stand. I have that wind. Can I

757
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: hunt it on that that wind? So if it matches up, yes,

758
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: it's a green, it's a go. You know, I can

759
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: hunt that during the season, all right, access on a

760
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: different wind, Okay, wind wind is bad all right for access?

761
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: But if I get to the stand, um you know,

762
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: I may I I it's a risk, you know, like

763
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: we always talk about risk verse reward is that is

764
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: that access bad? If? And if it is. If I

765
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: get to the stand and I don't bump anything, is

766
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: that a green? That's the I can hunt that wind

767
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: on that stand, or I can hunt that stand with

768
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: that wind, even though it's going to be a bad access,

769
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: but good while I'm in the stand. For me, that's

770
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: kind of a that depends on you know, that kind

771
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: of opens Paindora's box. But you have to go through

772
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: every type of scenario with every stand. Okay, yes or no?

773
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: Can I hunt it in this wind? Can I hunt

774
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: it in this one? Can I hunt it in this one?

775
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: Can I hunt it in this one? That way, you know,

776
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 1: when the season starts, you don't have to think about it.

777
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: You're just like, yes, this wind, I can hunt it. Nope,

778
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: this wind find a different place. Yeah, oh yeah, I

779
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,240
Speaker 1: love I love that I go to the same similar

780
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: process when I'm in there trying to set new stands.

781
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: And to your point, again, this is a helpful thing

782
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: I've I've done this occasionally, probably something I should do

783
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: again in the future. But again, like if you were

784
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: to list on all your tree stands, and maybe you

785
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 1: did that exercise I just mentioned where you think of

786
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: one thing you can do for each stand. You know,

787
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: just have a chart like this and then label or

788
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: list of those things out so you know right what

789
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 1: wind directions is good for right down. You know, I

790
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 1: don't know what time of year that stands best for

791
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: different things like that, so you don't even need to

792
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: think about that. You know, on October fifteenth, you're like, well,

793
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: where the heck should I hunt today? A southwest wind?

794
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:44,760
Speaker 1: But you can just look at your map and your

795
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: list of stands and you'll say, Okay, stand A, D,

796
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: and F are all good for southwest winds, And I

797
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 1: know that stand F happens to be a good mid

798
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: October spot. Let's go there. Just kind of simplifies it

799
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: because I don't know about you, but sometimes during the

800
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: hunting season I almost become paralyzed with analysis, you know,

801
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: paralysis by analysis. I think they say, like, you're just

802
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: you're especially like you and me, you know, probably maybe

803
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: all of our listeners, because right we've listened to so

804
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: many different people's ideas. We're students of the game. We're

805
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: constantly learning, reading, studying our own experiences, studying other people's experiences,

806
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 1: that when we go into a hunting situation. There's so

807
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: many different ideas that could be implemented, and so many

808
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: different factors were paying attention to. You know, it can

809
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 1: be like crazy, so it can be stressful. And it's

810
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: helped me occasionally to try to just like remove a

811
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: little bit of that decision making stress by just having

812
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: it kind of mapped out in some ways, so like

813
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: I don't need to sit and grow myself about it.

814
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 1: I just know A and B are my two options,

815
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 1: and that that helps in the in the tiny way

816
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 1: it helps. And you know, at certain times of the year,

817
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: every little bit can can really make a difference. That's

818
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: a fact. Another thing when it comes to setting stands

819
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:06,760
Speaker 1: that I like to do is that, you know, I

820
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: try to never set a stand unless there's at least

821
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: three good reasons that I'm setting it there. This is

822
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: kind of just a different way of looking at the

823
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: same thing you said. But I don't want to just

824
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: hang a stand just because it was a trail there,

825
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: or just because there's a scrape there or something. I

826
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: want there at least to be like three really good reasons.

827
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 1: I can't remember where I got this idea from. I

828
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: think maybe Don Higgins wrote an article about this like

829
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: five years or I read this some number of years ago,

830
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: but it really stuck with me that there should be

831
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,439
Speaker 1: at least three really good reasons that you can list

832
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: out for any stand spot or any location you're putting

833
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: a stand. So let's say I'm hanging a stand and

834
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: I'm okay, so why am I hanging the stand here?

835
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: I better have three really good reasons. Maybe number one

836
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: because I've got two trails intersecting them front of me,

837
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: there's a reason number one. Reason number two, I'm hanging

838
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: this stand here because it's at an inside corner of

839
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: this field or whatever might be. And then a reason

840
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: number three. Maybe it would be because I've got this

841
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: creek that runs through the property that i can walk

842
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 1: all the way to the stands, so I've got great access,

843
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: and there's two different factors that should be pulling deer

844
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: into this area. UM always trying to go through that.

845
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: If if you have less than three reasons in your

846
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: favor for that tree, stand's probably not good enough at

847
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: least not to kill mature buck from UM. You know,

848
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: that's still a little exercise that I kind of go

849
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: through to make sure that I'm not just setting something

850
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: you know, over easy sign or just because I'm getting

851
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: tired or lazy, or just because oh this looks good. Um.

852
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: You know Craig Doherty, he was a guest on this show,

853
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: I know some number of episodes, I think early early

854
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 1: in the show, early first ten episodes or something. Um,

855
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: And now I'm kind of getting off on a tangent.

856
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: But I went on a hunt with him once, Um,

857
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, four or five years ago, and we're

858
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: sitting in this box line just talking about stuff and

859
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 1: we hadn't seen any deer that night, or very few,

860
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: and it was like surprising because it was I don't know,

861
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 1: late October something cold front. We should have been seeing

862
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: deer and we weren't. And you know, I cast said, well,

863
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: that's hunting just kind of happen. That's just how it

864
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: goes sometimes. And he made a comment along the lines of, well, no,

865
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: you know, there's always a reason. And his kind of

866
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 1: lesson to me was that you should always ask why,

867
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 1: Like there's always a reason for what you see or

868
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: don't see, or observe or don't observe. So when you're

869
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: sitting in a tree stand, I think the reason why

870
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 1: I got to this is because we're kind of talking

871
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: about reasons for tree stand, but I'm now moving us

872
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: to reasons for why dear what they do. Dear do

873
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 1: what they do. When you are hunting in tree stand,

874
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: Let's say this fall and you see a buck do something,

875
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: or you see some deer do something or whatever it is,

876
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 1: or you don't see dear one night, don't ever just

877
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: take it at face value and just say all that happened.

878
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: Always ask why why did this happened? And I think

879
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: if we're constantly asking why, we're going to learn stuff

880
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: and that will help you apply to these tree stand

881
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 1: adjustments or to this exit or access adjustments we need

882
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: to make. Because if you see a buck come out

883
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: and he walks fifty yards away from you along a

884
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: field or field edge, why did he do that? Why

885
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: wasn't he right here where I thought it was gonna be?

886
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: Why did he walk fifty yards away? Or when you

887
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 1: see a group of does come out in such and

888
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: such areas travel on that ridge line there, we need

889
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: to be asking why they traveled there, because if we

890
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: can start understanding the answers to those questions, every time

891
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: we see something like that, all of a sudden we

892
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: are uncovering the clues that we need to make the

893
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: right adjustments now or during the season or whatever. It

894
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 1: is so random tangent. Dan started with that, but always

895
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: ask why always? And that right there can also be

896
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: applied to what some people call the October lull. Oh yeah,

897
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:49,919
Speaker 1: for sure, I know, I know we're getting off again.

898
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: But like everybody, don't hunt the October lull. I'm hunting

899
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: the October lull. I don't care. Well, I mean, we mean,

900
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: we've talked about before. I mean the October lull. It

901
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: is a thing that many people experience, but it's not

902
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: it's not a natural thing that just happens like it

903
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: just happens. It is a reaction two things changing. And

904
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: so if you have the ability and the knowledge to

905
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: adjust to that change that the deer make, you can

906
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: be right in the game, right amen. But some people

907
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 1: don't have the spots to do it, or the time

908
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: to do it right, or the knowledge of you know,

909
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,240
Speaker 1: how to do that? And those kids why they listened

910
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: to the Wired to Hunt podcast with Mark Kenyon and

911
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: Dan Johnson D D. John I'm an afterthought though, Well,

912
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: you're the brains behind this, what does that make you do? Um?

913
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, like I would say the bronze, but

914
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: it's not even that. I'm just like, I'm that sidekick

915
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: who is like like just a little off. It's chromosome.

916
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: You may be missing a chromosome the type that East

917
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: dog food that type. Yeah, that guy. That guy. Well,

918
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: I'm happy to have that guy as my coast. So

919
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 1: so the tree stands, UM, I did want to like

920
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: elaborate a little bit on like, well, you know, we've

921
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: talked about tree stands a lot. One I'll just give

922
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: one example of one of the adjustments I'm making. So

923
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: you know, we talked about your tweak you're making. One

924
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: of the tweaks I'm making is one of the situations

925
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: where I have a tree stand that's near food plot,

926
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: that's right off the food plot. Um. I've hunted it

927
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 1: many times in the past. Is a great spot. Um.

928
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: I've almost gotten a shot at several bucks there, but

929
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: never quite been able to get it done. So to

930
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 1: what we've been talking about. What I have seen though,

931
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: is lots sometimes these bucks cross from a swamp over

932
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: to this finger of timber and the crp grass. They

933
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: had to cross a thin finger of crop field and

934
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: when that crow feels cut either corner beans once cut down.

935
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: They always cross this field at this low spot. You know,

936
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: we've talked about for low spots and fields lots of times.

937
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 1: If deer are going to cross the field on the open,

938
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna cross it in that low spot. And that's

939
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: exactly what's happened here. Um And I've seen deer do

940
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 1: it numerous times. Leaner the buck we're talking about a

941
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: while ago, he passed by me like sixty yards away

942
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 1: from me across this low spot. Instead of coming the

943
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 1: food plot, he crossed the field behind me in the

944
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 1: low spot, came across, stayed in the timber and c

945
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: rp um. And for a number of years, I've like

946
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: kept saying, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta sit there,

947
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: But it's, you know, like sixty yards away from my

948
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: current stand near the food plot, and it's always like

949
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 1: just I don't know. The one risk of having a

950
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: food plot is that it's always kind of like enticing

951
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: to sit on it or close to it because you

952
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: see so many deer and you always think that you're

953
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: gonna have that action there. But this is one of

954
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: those cases where I just have to make I know

955
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: it's the right thing to do, and I've just been

956
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 1: being stubborn about it. I need to have a stand

957
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: there at this low spot that yeah, I'm not gonna

958
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: go hunt the food plot edge, but that's fine because

959
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: lots of times the bucks are cruising down into the

960
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: food loot, not actually coming to a stand in that

961
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: low spot, going past it, kind of checking it out

962
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: and then continuing on to various other spots. So that's

963
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: an example of I've you know, observations have shown me

964
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: this the spot to be. And then number two, they're

965
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: signed consistently through there every year from you know, the

966
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: occasional mature buck the cruises through there. And then also

967
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: it's a terrain funnel, so it's one of those things

968
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: that you know, if you look at your maps you

969
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: notice it too. But between the maps and now you know,

970
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: observing it a handful of years, that's somewhere that Yet

971
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna feel silly because I have three tree stands

972
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 1: and like a d and twenty yards section along this

973
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 1: finger of timber, but each one has a different time

974
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: of year that I should be hunting it or a

975
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: different situation. Um, So micromanaging those little things like that

976
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 1: it can be. It can be the difference maker. I agree.

977
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: So that's what we're doing when it comes to tree stands.

978
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: Any um, let's talk a little bit about how we're

979
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,439
Speaker 1: setting them or any I think we've talked a little

980
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: bit about this in the past, but anything you've found

981
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: you've really started doing recently that you like when it

982
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: comes to where you're hanging your stands, you know, in

983
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: the tree or the gear you're using, any technique as

984
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: you know, I think we might have talked about facing

985
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: the tree stand towards where the deer come or towards

986
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 1: away from where they're coming. We talked about that, right right.

987
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: So one of my favorite things to do, and I

988
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: did this because I was self. I used to sell

989
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: film a lot and uh and I don't do that

990
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: as much anymore. So I always had in order to

991
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,879
Speaker 1: get away with a little bit more movement, and it's

992
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: easier with a camera room in the tree. I had

993
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: my back to where the mate where I thought the

994
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: deer were going to be coming, right, So that way

995
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 1: I can stand up and then if it's a shooter,

996
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: I just basically point my you know, my camera, hit

997
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: record and if it's not, then I can follow that

998
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: deer in, follow him out, you know, and just be

999
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: comfortable because there's an object between me and the deer,

1000
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: and they do kind of catch movement. They see this

1001
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: big tree up in front of them, and then they're

1002
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: more likely from what I've seen, to uh, you know,

1003
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: take a look at it then ignore it. So so

1004
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: I've kept doing that, and I I feel more comfortable

1005
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: I can get away with more movement. The deer are

1006
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: less likely to you know, if I do make too

1007
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: much movement, or for god forbid, my tree stand squeaks,

1008
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: or I don't know something and they catch me, then

1009
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: I can you know, then I'm more likely to get

1010
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: away with it because there's a giant object in between us.

1011
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: I'm starting to do that more and more too, right.

1012
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: I think it's a think it's a great idea, you know,

1013
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 1: if if you can manage it with you know, limbs

1014
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 1: and other things like that. You know, as long as

1015
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 1: you can get up shot off, as long as you've

1016
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: set up for that. I mean, like you said, it's

1017
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: a great way to get that additional cover and to

1018
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: kind of help you in that situation. Um, you know,

1019
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: two years ago the job bricker here, Ye both of

1020
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: my tree stands were set up like that that I

1021
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: got a shot, a jawbreaker that was I was behind

1022
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: the tree, and then the buck that I killed, you know,

1023
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,280
Speaker 1: two weeks later, same deal. I set that stand purposely

1024
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: up facing away from where the deer b because it

1025
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: was a skinny tree and have a lot of cover,

1026
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: so I was kind of banking on the trunk helping

1027
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: me out. And good thing I did that, because even

1028
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,720
Speaker 1: being behind the tree, that buck still kind of latched

1029
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: onto me moving and you know, like we've talked about,

1030
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: I had like a two minute stare down with him.

1031
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 1: I can't believe that if I was in broad site,

1032
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: right out in front of the tree, he would have

1033
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: let me get away with that. Right now. The only

1034
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 1: problem with that is you're gonna be doing a lot

1035
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: more standing because you're going to want to, you know,

1036
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: have your eyes and where the deer are going to

1037
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: be coming from. Um at least that's what I do.

1038
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: I very rarely sit down in my stand, except for

1039
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: you know, a morning hunt where i'm you know, I

1040
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: can't shoot because it's dark. Yeah, I mean, I'll take

1041
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: a little breaks, but I'm I like to stand. Yeah. Interesting,

1042
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: you bring that up. Um so was sick because headquarters

1043
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,720
Speaker 1: last week, you know, recording and um I was chatting

1044
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: with one of their product managers and he was telling

1045
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:12,439
Speaker 1: me that he brings a little sheet of close cell foam. Um.

1046
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: Now he I don't know, this was some special phone

1047
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: that he had from, you know, some type of that

1048
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 1: he was using in some product that he had, but

1049
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: you could get like, you know, like a little foam

1050
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,879
Speaker 1: sleeping pad. It it's like a half inch thick type

1051
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: foam that you can get, you know, for camping or whatever.

1052
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: He brings this little pad of foam you know, eighteen

1053
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: by eighteen or whatever with him every time he goes

1054
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: into a tree stand and he lays that out on

1055
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: the ground of the tree stand and a what that

1056
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 1: does for him is it quiets his boots moving on

1057
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,879
Speaker 1: the metal platform with tree stand almost completely, so there's

1058
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 1: no more you know, clicking against the grates or you know,

1059
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: dirt falling and making noise or squeaking or anything. Be

1060
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 1: It also gives him a lot of add warmth. A

1061
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: lot of heat gets lost through your feet on that

1062
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 1: metal platform coming up, so you know, like if you're

1063
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 1: sleeping on the regular ground, it's a lot cooler and

1064
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: if you sleep on a phone pad. So by putting

1065
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: a very thin foam pad on the top of his

1066
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: tree stand platform, it also really helps him stand stand

1067
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 1: longer on those cold late season days. Um. So I

1068
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: thought that's kind of an interesting little thing that it's

1069
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: very interesting. And then finally it actually, even though it

1070
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like a lot of cushioning, he says it

1071
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: really helps with standing all day during during the rut

1072
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: and stuff, because he does all day sits, but he

1073
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:28,760
Speaker 1: stands most of the day too, like you just mentioned.

1074
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 1: So he said this is something that really helps him.

1075
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 1: So I was like, that's kind of nice little tip there, right,

1076
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: And I'm I'm getting to the point now where you know,

1077
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: I used to be die hard, you know, lone wolf everything,

1078
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:48,959
Speaker 1: but there's but I'm realizing now that there are tree

1079
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 1: stands out there that are really comfortable, like you know,

1080
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: like the millenniums, and I think Hawk has some. You know,

1081
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: it's almost like it's a recliner up in the tree,

1082
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: but you know you're not gonna do your running guns

1083
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: with it, but you can put it into a rut spot.

1084
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: And I I sat in a couple of these at

1085
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: some of the A T A shows this year, and

1086
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: I'm just like, don't get me wrong, Lone Wolf can

1087
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: be comfortable, but you're you're, you know, you're tied in there,

1088
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 1: and some of these other stands are like luxury. I

1089
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 1: can easily fall asleep. Yeah, I would never accuse lone

1090
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 1: Wolf stands of being like the most comfortable. They're they're

1091
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: they're you know, acceptable. Um, but you know, I use

1092
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,720
Speaker 1: those stands in certain situations because they're super light, super quiet.

1093
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: I mean, they're awesome for running gun sets. But yeah,

1094
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,280
Speaker 1: I mean there's lots of other options. When you're looking

1095
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 1: for something you're gonna hang up now and leave it,

1096
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 1: and you want something comfy. Um, I'm just cheap, So

1097
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: like me, I buy dozens of the forty dollar tree

1098
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 1: stands and then I've got two Lone wolfs that I've

1099
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: you know, splurged on that I take from my running guns. Um.

1100
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: But you know, even the cheapos, you can occasionally find

1101
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: a diamond the rough comfort Zone. Man, I have no

1102
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 1: affiliation with them whatsoever, but the forty dollar comfort Zone

1103
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: is the best bargain tree stand you can get there.

1104
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: It's not great tree stands. Forty bucks but it's the

1105
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: best forty dollar one other by far. How old is

1106
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: your oldest comfort zone? I think I'm going on my

1107
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: third year. And are they still quality enough to hunt

1108
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: out of them? Yeah? Absolutely? Have you had to hunt,

1109
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: like replace any straps? I have not had one issue yet?

1110
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. So again, I mean it's nothing fancy,

1111
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,439
Speaker 1: but it's when you look at that like bargain tree

1112
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: stand market, right, you know this the options available there,

1113
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: This has by far the best cushion seat. Um. It's

1114
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: like everything is what do you call it? Powder coated metal?

1115
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: So it's a little bit quieter. Um, everything's tight. You know,

1116
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: some of these fourty dollar stands you get like done

1117
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 1: in sports or some of these like bargain places whatever

1118
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: it might be your tractor supply or whatever. Everything's loose

1119
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: and clanky and dingy and heavy. This is like just

1120
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: the antipathy of all that it is. Ah, I mean,

1121
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 1: look at me, I'm gushing. These guys really should really

1122
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: should get on board with the Weird Hum podcast. What

1123
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna say, Oh, I was just singing a tea

1124
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: pain song. Yeah, I mean there for I don't know,

1125
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: find whatever works for you, but for putting if you're

1126
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,479
Speaker 1: gonna put a lot of stands in the woods, and

1127
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: you know, for me, I'm twenty years old. I don't

1128
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: have all sorts of money. I have to spend it carefully.

1129
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: I've gone the route of lots of cheap stands and

1130
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: then a couple of high quality ones that I can

1131
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: take on these you know, mobile setups, and that's worked

1132
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: well for me. But I know some guys you know,

1133
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: would not want to sit in a small tree stand

1134
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: like that, especially during the rut, for long, long periods

1135
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: of time. Um. I mean, I definitely have more of

1136
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: a tolerance for pain and discomfort, I guess maybe than

1137
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: some people. So, I mean they're small, um, but they're

1138
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: not too bad. So perfect the tree stands. We talked

1139
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: about how to play some shooting lanes. You know, this

1140
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 1: is a great time of a year to be going

1141
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 1: through and you know, checking all your tree stands and

1142
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: checking their shooting lanes. I like to you know, I

1143
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 1: think we've talked about this before too. We probably talked

1144
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: about everything here at some point over the past episodes,

1145
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: but we're trying to cover it all in one place here. Um.

1146
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: One thought I have on um, well, I don't even

1147
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 1: know what my thought was, now, Dan, shooting lanes. What

1148
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: the heck are we gona talk about shooting lanes. The

1149
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 1: more you cut, the more it exposes you. Well, you

1150
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: tell me your thoughts on shodo lings, and there's there's

1151
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: something a different thought on shoo LANs. I was going

1152
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: to share that I've completely blanked on. But oh, you

1153
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: know what I was gonna say. This is what I

1154
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 1: was gonna say. I was going to say that if

1155
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 1: you are doing a lot of this kind of work

1156
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 1: early in the year, you know, if you're a guy

1157
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: or girl that in the spring, if you're way ahead

1158
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: of the game and you're good and you got your

1159
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: stands out in May or June, you still probably want

1160
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 1: to go in late August or even early September or

1161
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 1: whatever it might be for you to just double check them,

1162
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 1: because lots of times there's that summer growth that all

1163
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: of a sudden comes into those shooting lanes. So I've

1164
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 1: had a lot of situations where I went and May

1165
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: cleared everything out. I didn't think about it again until

1166
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 1: I hunted in October and then showed up and had

1167
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: a bunch of new crap right in the way of

1168
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: where I cut that then, you know, made the whole

1169
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: work I did in May irrelevant. So make sure you

1170
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: check everything late in the summer. Yep, yep. And you

1171
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: know there's those guys out there who they cut landing

1172
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 1: strips basically, you know, the everything in this giant rectangle

1173
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: when they stay shooting lane, it's like a bowling alley,

1174
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: you know, they cut everything. And then you got the

1175
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 1: guys who I'm kind of I'm kind of more like

1176
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: this second group where you're cutting pockets and you you

1177
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 1: find an opening where the deer are going to go,

1178
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 1: and you you know, you just cut cut as little

1179
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 1: as you possibly have to. Yeah, so you're more in

1180
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 1: that camp. Yep. Except for except well, I shouldn't say except,

1181
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: because there are times when I go into an area

1182
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: where it is just thick and nasty and you have

1183
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: to do major trimming. You know, your your tree is

1184
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 1: a really thick and nasty tree, and then you have

1185
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 1: to cut major lanes, you know, to even just hit

1186
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 1: the ground floor. So yeah, that there definitely is that divide.

1187
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: Some people go one way, some go to the other.

1188
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 1: I actually have been going a little more in the

1189
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 1: opposite direction. Um, you know, of course I want to

1190
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 1: have good cover. But if I can keep good cover

1191
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 1: in my stand, I will open up lanes as best

1192
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 1: as I can with trying to keep that cover as

1193
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 1: still as good as I can right around me. Because

1194
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 1: I've had too many situations, relatively recently where because there's

1195
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: one limb in the way if forced me to rush

1196
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 1: a shot, or because or kept me from getting a

1197
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 1: shot or it, you know, just made this thing a

1198
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 1: whole lot more difficult than it should have been. So

1199
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 1: now I'm like, there's one limb in this one way,

1200
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: and I'll sit there and look at it and be like,

1201
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 1: this is gonna be paying the butt to cut that

1202
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: one more thing. But I know that if a buck

1203
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: stands behind that limb, I can't get a shot. Because

1204
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 1: I was lazy, I'm gonna be kicking myself for years.

1205
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 1: So I always try to get that one extra limb

1206
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 1: or whatever it might be to make sure you've got good,

1207
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 1: good available lanes and stuff, but not the expense of

1208
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 1: opening yourself up. Um, but I don't know, it's really

1209
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 1: six one way, half dozen the other. I just hate

1210
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 1: being a situation where there's a deer moving through your

1211
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 1: lane or something and you don't have time to range him,

1212
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: stop him, get a shot, or you have to make

1213
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: a noise to stop him and then he spooks or

1214
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 1: he jumps a string or there's so many things that

1215
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: can go wrong when you've got a very narrow window

1216
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 1: to get a shot. Um, it just raises a lot

1217
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:02,439
Speaker 1: more issues. How long do you think a podcast would

1218
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 1: be if we talked about absolutely everything that like from

1219
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 1: food plots to you know, shooting lanes, to equipment to

1220
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 1: making sure you know strategy all that stuff. How how

1221
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: how many hours do you think that would uh, that

1222
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: conversation would be. Well, we're gonna find out today, because

1223
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: that's the plan. We're gonna keep going. We are not stopping.

1224
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen up, if we're going six seven hours,

1225
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 1: whatever it's gonna be. My wife is gonna be happy

1226
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 1: with me. Oh yeah, and me she probably how much

1227
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 1: does she hate me? Dan? I feel like I'm always

1228
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 1: a bad influence on you. Oh no, your wife, My wife,

1229
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 1: My wife doesn't hate you. She she it's like a grandma, right,

1230
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 1: or she's just like did you just compare your wife

1231
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 1: to your grandma? Well, in this one in this one

1232
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 1: instance where it's like I'm not mad at you, I'm

1233
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: just disappointed, you know, one of those things that's even

1234
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: where right, right, So you know, it's like, oh man,

1235
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 1: because like right now, I hear my kids screaming upstairs,

1236
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 1: and I know, Oh, by the way, my wife quit

1237
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 1: her job to be a stay at home daycare provider, right,

1238
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 1: so she has three other kids that aren't mine at least,

1239
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 1: I hope and uh and she and she's watching him

1240
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: right now, right, So she's taken on more kids. So

1241
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 1: that tells me she's not you know, she's not as

1242
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 1: mad at me as I previously thought. I guess that's good.

1243
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 1: Then that's right, that's good. Do we have time to continue? Yeah,

1244
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 1: we do. I mean she's she's on the clock, not me.

1245
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 1: So we talked a little bit about trail cameras. We

1246
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 1: talked a little about tree stands, shooting lanes, what else

1247
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 1: are you doing at this time of year towards the

1248
01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 1: end of this month, and we mentioned it briefly, is

1249
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 1: the trail camera transition and that comes off of the

1250
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 1: mineral stations that I have my trail cameras on now,

1251
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 1: and that gets a little bit closer to the betting areas,

1252
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 1: closer to my tree stand locations. And I'm trying to

1253
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 1: do that efficiently. So when I'm going in to hang

1254
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,439
Speaker 1: my tree stands, I'll set these cameras up in these

1255
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,919
Speaker 1: pinch points and these fence crossings where I feel these

1256
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 1: deer are betting um coming in and out and uh

1257
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 1: that way, I'm not going to check them until I

1258
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 1: actually hunt that hunt those stands right so and then

1259
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 1: find you know, they're even with some of these uh

1260
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 1: trail camera switches. You might need an access route to

1261
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 1: this trail camera that is not the same access route

1262
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 1: that is for the you know that is for the

1263
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 1: uh the tree stand. Yeah, yeah, I think, um, that

1264
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 1: shift that happens right at the end of summer is

1265
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 1: one of the like most frustrating things for a lot

1266
01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 1: of people, I think because a lot of guys and girls,

1267
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 1: right we get out in the summer, we have our

1268
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 1: cameras out, we're looking at farm fields and seeing the

1269
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 1: bucks and everything, and then September eight comes along or fifteen,

1270
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, these dear gone and they're

1271
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 1: not doing anything that they used to be doing. The

1272
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 1: bucks we were watching don't show up anymore. Or maybe

1273
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 1: you hung your stands based on where you saw bucks. Moving.

1274
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 1: You know in July they're always on this trail camera

1275
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 1: every day during daylight. And then you sit there October one,

1276
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 1: and you don't see anything for the next week. Um. Like,

1277
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 1: if you aren't paying attention and aware of the shift

1278
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 1: that happens that first week in September, you're missing out

1279
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 1: on a major, major behavior change in white tails that

1280
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 1: is going to really hurt to as a hunter. So

1281
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 1: you know, to what you just said, Dan, For those

1282
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 1: who aren't familiar with this shift, you know when um,

1283
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 1: when bucks are losing their velvet that first week in

1284
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 1: September give usually give a take, there's going to be

1285
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 1: a few change that happened at that time of year.

1286
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 1: Um as dear transition to their kind of fall range,

1287
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna have a lot of deer relocate from where

1288
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 1: they've been living in the summer to a new fall range.

1289
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 1: Um that might be a shift of you know, twenty acres,

1290
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 1: that could be a shift of a mile or more. Um.

1291
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 1: So you know, each buck has a different personality, different

1292
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 1: ranges and stuff. But kind of I don't know what

1293
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 1: you've seen, Dan, but i'd say maybe on average, forty

1294
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 1: per cent of maybe the bucks that I might have

1295
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 1: on a property in the summer will substantially change their

1296
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 1: behavior by the time the fall rolls around. So usually,

1297
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 1: let's say I've got four bucks on camera in the summer,

1298
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 1: maybe there's a good bet that maybe half of them

1299
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 1: will still be around during the hunting season. The other

1300
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 1: two or whatever it is. In that case, um, they

1301
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 1: might be gone. Have you seen something kind of similar

1302
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 1: to that, almost to a t. You know, that late

1303
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 1: August period, early September, velvet comes off, that testosterone is

1304
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 1: starting to build in their body, and the bachelor groups

1305
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 1: start to break up and the deer that you know,

1306
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 1: and the reason I'm doing this transition is because there's

1307
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 1: no point. They don't need the mineral anymore, at least

1308
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 1: that's what I've seen. You know, they stopped coming to

1309
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 1: the mineral stations. They the luscious greens that are in

1310
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 1: there have started to dry up and are less appetizing

1311
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:29,680
Speaker 1: for them. The corn fields or the bean fields, you know,

1312
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:31,680
Speaker 1: the beans are starting to dry out, so they're not

1313
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 1: hitting the bean fields as much anymore. The corn, you know,

1314
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 1: is kind of a last you know, the reason they

1315
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 1: love it in the late season is because it's the

1316
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:43,599
Speaker 1: only thing they have to eat in some instances, you know,

1317
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 1: it's easy for them to get so then they transition

1318
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 1: to what's in the woods, anything that's still green or

1319
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 1: the acorns, right, So, so that transition can keep those

1320
01:08:57,160 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 1: deer away from where they have been the previous three months.

1321
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 1: And now some people think, oh, they're gone, Well yes,

1322
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 1: according to your trail cameras, they're gone. So you have

1323
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 1: to be smart and move your trail you know, your

1324
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 1: trail cameras, or just realize that once the rut comes

1325
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:18,719
Speaker 1: around these some of these areas still might be good,

1326
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:22,639
Speaker 1: but they're not. You know, a bachelor group of bucks

1327
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 1: is not going to come through in November, right right,

1328
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 1: And I think it's you know, in order to keep

1329
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 1: getting pictures of bucks or to relocate those bucks, you

1330
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 1: need to, like you said, move those cameras. But then also,

1331
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 1: you know, so your trail cameras need to change. But

1332
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 1: then also your tree stands strategy needs to be different

1333
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 1: in that well, it shouldn't even be exactly, shouldn't be

1334
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 1: different because you don't do not set your tree stands

1335
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 1: based on what you're seeing in July or August. Just

1336
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 1: don't do it. The only way it might work is

1337
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 1: if you've got a really early opener. If you're opening

1338
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 1: in early September, you know, and some of those bucks

1339
01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 1: might still be on many of those bucks will still

1340
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 1: be on that usual summer bed to feed pattern of

1341
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 1: that time of year. Then you can go ahead and

1342
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 1: do that. But if you're like me in Michigan and

1343
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 1: we don't open till October one, if I were setting

1344
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 1: my stands and trying to hunt based on summer observations,

1345
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 1: I'd be having a lot of boring nights on I

1346
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 1: would never see a deer. So that's an important thing

1347
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 1: to keep in mind this or yes, we're setting stands,

1348
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 1: but you should be setting your stands now based on

1349
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:28,759
Speaker 1: last year's observations, based on topo maps and aerial maps,

1350
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 1: you know, looking at the terrain, anticipating what the deer

1351
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 1: are gonna do in October and November. Um, you know,

1352
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:36,680
Speaker 1: looking at where the food sources are going to be

1353
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 1: in October and November, looking at what the quality bedding

1354
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,680
Speaker 1: cover is going to be at those times of year. Um.

1355
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:45,600
Speaker 1: You know, don't get too sucked into trying to you know,

1356
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 1: set up based on the sign you're seeing in July

1357
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 1: or where you saw a buck in on October fifteenth,

1358
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 1: or sorry August. UM. That's a really important thing to

1359
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 1: make sure you keep in mind as you're doing this

1360
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 1: prep work this summer. It's right another thought on the

1361
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 1: trail camera when I do that shift for me, like

1362
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 1: you know, lots of times, I've got my summer cameras

1363
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 1: out by food summer food sources. UM. Something I've really

1364
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 1: come to love is putting my cameras on scrapes during

1365
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 1: the shift period. So in like the last time I

1366
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 1: go into my properties, so late August or early September,

1367
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:23,720
Speaker 1: or if you know, if it's one of these out

1368
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 1: of state places and I you know, go once in

1369
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:27,600
Speaker 1: the early season, this will be the very beginning of

1370
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 1: October whatever. Whenever I get that chance, I'm gonna go

1371
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 1: in there and set some cameras on scrapes or mock scrapes,

1372
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 1: even September October, when they're not typically you don't think

1373
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 1: of bucks hitting scrapes a lot. They really do visit

1374
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 1: these scrapes a lot more than we think, at least

1375
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 1: during the nighttime and when I'm trying to get inventory

1376
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 1: of bucks or figure out, okay, where did this buck

1377
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 1: relocate to? In September October. I just have had like

1378
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 1: the best success in the world of getting lots and

1379
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 1: lots of pictures on scrapes, especially if you can't use

1380
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 1: any kind of attractant or bait you if you're trying

1381
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 1: to take inventory of bucks, it's really helpful throw some

1382
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 1: corner mineral down. But if you can't do that in

1383
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 1: your state, even during the summer, scrape locations can be

1384
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 1: one of the best places to still get an inventory

1385
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 1: because they still check and smell those licking branches. They're

1386
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 1: not necessarily they're not scraping up the ground underneath it,

1387
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 1: but they still are rubbing their glands up on those

1388
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 1: looking branches or sniffing them or licking them. Um. Bucks

1389
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:26,680
Speaker 1: doze the whole gamut Um. I've just seen it year

1390
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 1: after year, even in the summer they're doing it. So

1391
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 1: it's it's a great place to place your cameras as

1392
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 1: long as you've got a camera that's not spooking those

1393
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 1: deer at the scrapes. Um. I think it was Eric

1394
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 1: Long maybe we talked to last year, who talked about

1395
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:44,719
Speaker 1: some kind of kind of studies he was doing personally

1396
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:48,599
Speaker 1: checking how deerer reacting to scrape cameras. Um. I think

1397
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:50,839
Speaker 1: he said he was noticing some deer were negatively reacting

1398
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 1: to it. But I've talked to other people who haven't

1399
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 1: seen that that same reaction. I think it comes down

1400
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:58,599
Speaker 1: to what kind of camera using, how edgy your deer are,

1401
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 1: how you're placing your camera there. I'm trying to start

1402
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 1: placing my cameras higher up in the tree, so not

1403
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 1: so much deer eye level as much um a little

1404
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,800
Speaker 1: higher and angling them down. I'm hoping that'll make them

1405
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 1: little less noticeable the deer um. And then of course

1406
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 1: making sure you're not checking them too often, you know,

1407
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,639
Speaker 1: like you mentioned, having good access routes to your cameras

1408
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 1: when you check them, even in the summer. That kind

1409
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 1: of stuff matters. I never hang a trail camera on

1410
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:27,760
Speaker 1: a tree that is right in front of a scrape.

1411
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:31,640
Speaker 1: It's off, it's always off of it. Yeah. Yes, but

1412
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 1: you're pointing out a scrape, but you're saying it's not

1413
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 1: the scrape tree. It's not. Yeah. I mean, you know,

1414
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 1: when you think of a scrape, you think of a

1415
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 1: branch hanging right down on the ground, and you think

1416
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 1: of the tree that's about, you know, five ten feet

1417
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 1: away from it, and it's almost like it's in view

1418
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 1: of the deer, right, because that the deer they're focused

1419
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,720
Speaker 1: on that scrape. So if they look their head up

1420
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 1: and look look around, you don't want that camera to

1421
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 1: be in their focus range. Yeah, you you definitely want

1422
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:03,679
Speaker 1: to try and make it is concealed as possible, especially

1423
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:05,600
Speaker 1: if you've got like a flash camera, different things of that.

1424
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 1: But I think it also I've talked to some people

1425
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 1: and seen some examples where they just don't care like you.

1426
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 1: I've had I've had some cameras sometimes on a scrape,

1427
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 1: and I've had three and four year old bucks show

1428
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 1: up over and over and over again, and they just

1429
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:20,639
Speaker 1: don't care about it. While you go to other places

1430
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:22,720
Speaker 1: and the first time a buck gets a picture on

1431
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:26,719
Speaker 1: that camera, you see his eyes wide as bowling ball

1432
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:29,680
Speaker 1: and he never shows up ever again. So you do

1433
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 1: have to kind of get a gauge on how your

1434
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 1: deer react to that. I don't know, if you keep

1435
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 1: you know, I wonder and sometimes like do these deer

1436
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 1: just get used to these cameras being on all the time,

1437
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 1: Like on this Michigan property, these deer are you know,

1438
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 1: very heavily hunted, they're very human hunting pressure shy, But

1439
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I've got cameras out all the time, and

1440
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 1: I have not had these terribly concealed or really high

1441
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 1: up in the tree. They've been kind of a deer

1442
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 1: eye level. Sometimes it's done like a stick and pick

1443
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,120
Speaker 1: type thing right in the edge of a field, and

1444
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 1: I get daylight pictures of mature bucks looking at it

1445
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 1: or walking past it, like repeatedly, year after year, And

1446
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, I wonder if, like sometimes these deers

1447
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 1: just kind of become used to it and stuff to

1448
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 1: some degree. And then maybe that's partly because I'm really

1449
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 1: careful about trying not to associate humans with that, you know,

1450
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:18,599
Speaker 1: I'm really careful about want to check them and all

1451
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. So I don't know. I think

1452
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 1: everyone has kind of figure that out for themselves in

1453
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 1: their situation. But it's definitely something to be thinking about, right,

1454
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:32,799
Speaker 1: I agree. Shooting lanes were talked about, trail cameras, food plots.

1455
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 1: Do you do any access or exit work before the

1456
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 1: season on this time of year, you know, are you

1457
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:44,639
Speaker 1: talking about like cleaning a trail to get to, like

1458
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:47,720
Speaker 1: removing all the leaves off of the forest floor to

1459
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 1: get to a treaty stand, extremely quiet, that kind of stuff.

1460
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 1: That kind of stuff. Yeah, no, I don't do any

1461
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 1: of that stuff. Why not. Uh, to be honest with you,

1462
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 1: it's gonna sound like a dumb excuse, but you know,

1463
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 1: like I mentioned, every time in the woods has to

1464
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 1: be efficient as possible, and my opinion is that that

1465
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 1: kind of work is lower on the totem pole for

1466
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 1: stuff that needs to get done. And I've never really

1467
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:20,879
Speaker 1: had me being, you know, walking to a tree stand,

1468
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 1: you know, leaves crunching, be little of my boots, you know,

1469
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 1: as you know, a huge red flag where hey, I

1470
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 1: need to I need to make a sidewalk, a cushioned

1471
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 1: sidewalk to my tree stand. That way, I'm not getting busted,

1472
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 1: I guess, just not something I'm I'm doing currently. Interesting. Um,

1473
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 1: I I've not done it all the time, but I

1474
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:50,679
Speaker 1: definitely have every year tried to think about little ways

1475
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 1: to improve those routes in and out sometimes because I

1476
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:56,600
Speaker 1: at least I certainly have had times when I was

1477
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 1: trying to walk to a stand in the afternoon and

1478
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 1: and I had to go through thick brush or I

1479
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 1: was on tons of leaves and crunching sticks, and like

1480
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 1: every step is painful, and like I'm hating my life

1481
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 1: every step because I just know I'm alerting deer around me.

1482
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 1: Or if you've got to stand that like to get

1483
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 1: to it, you have to go somewhere near a bedding area,

1484
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:18,600
Speaker 1: or you have to do this or that, and you

1485
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 1: just you have to find stealthy ways to get in

1486
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 1: and out. And if if you can't get to a

1487
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 1: stand without alerting deer, what the what's the point of

1488
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:28,640
Speaker 1: hunting that stand? Um? So I've been trying. There are

1489
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 1: certain examples where I've been trying to improve those routes.

1490
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 1: Um you know. So, for example, there's this this property

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01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 1: hunt where in the in certain times of the day,

1492
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 1: I can walk a field edge. At certain times of

1493
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:47,719
Speaker 1: the day, I need to walk on the other side

1494
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 1: of this row of timber through this brush, so that

1495
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 1: if deer feeding on that field early in the morning

1496
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 1: or late in the evening, I obviously don't want to

1497
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 1: walk to that field and spook them. So the first

1498
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 1: year or two I hunted, that was the only way

1499
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:01,840
Speaker 1: I could get it out because the brush was so

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01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 1: thick on the other side. So I was just walking

1501
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 1: the field edge and spooking deer and I knew it

1502
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 1: was stupid, but I didn't have anither way. But then

1503
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 1: I decided, okay, I'm going to clear a trail for

1504
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:13,599
Speaker 1: the brush. So I did that one summer, and that

1505
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 1: has made an absolute world of difference, like night and

1506
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:18,840
Speaker 1: day when it comes to daylight setting as a mature

1507
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 1: deer and just deer in general, because I can get

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01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:22,680
Speaker 1: in and out now without a making a ton of

1509
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 1: noise or you know, just getting lost in like head

1510
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 1: high brush and brambles and crap like that. You know,

1511
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 1: I went through there once. Now every year I just

1512
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 1: kind of maintained that in the summer and I can

1513
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 1: get in quietly. I can get in and out with

1514
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:38,639
Speaker 1: spooking deer um. And it wasn't that much work, but

1515
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 1: you know, of course it was. It was a you know,

1516
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 1: an investment of time. But now I've been able to,

1517
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 1: you know, easily maintain that in the years to come.

1518
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:47,840
Speaker 1: Or I found different spots where if I just clear out,

1519
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:49,880
Speaker 1: you know, like sometimes there was like a fence row

1520
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 1: and you want to be on one side or the

1521
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 1: other something, I'll just try to clear out a little

1522
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 1: path to get in, you know, across the fence row quietly,

1523
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 1: so you're not climbing over trees and making a bunch

1524
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 1: of jump, Just little tweaks like that, I think are

1525
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 1: the things I've been trying to do more often now.

1526
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 1: Just just planning out that route. I had a time

1527
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:08,480
Speaker 1: a little bit in my head so I know, okay,

1528
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 1: I can get there as efficiently as possible or effectively,

1529
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 1: and that maybe this is the route I have to

1530
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:17,760
Speaker 1: go to not alert deer. But sometimes it's cutting one

1531
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 1: tree limb, or it's I've never been to the type

1532
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 1: that's actually raped out trails. I haven't gone that far.

1533
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 1: But um, I've definitely found it valuable to try to

1534
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 1: do some work. Um that you know, again it does come.

1535
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:33,720
Speaker 1: There was like some hierarchy of importance of all these

1536
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 1: things off you. You know, if you only have a day,

1537
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 1: you can only get a B and C done. Of

1538
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,720
Speaker 1: course E n F could be helpful, but you don't

1539
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 1: have time to do it. But if you can, I guess.

1540
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 1: There is a couple instances where I've had to trim

1541
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 1: some you know, some of those branches so a instead

1542
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 1: of having to touch the branch with my hand and

1543
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 1: push it up so it doesn't hit me or my

1544
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 1: pack or my bow I've I've snapped those or broken though,

1545
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 1: you know, cut those off, um, just so I'm not

1546
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:10,759
Speaker 1: a touching anything or be you know, you know, stuffs

1547
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:14,559
Speaker 1: banging against me, twiggers, you know, catching my gear, um

1548
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:17,680
Speaker 1: on the way to the stand. Um. Never anything, you know,

1549
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:21,559
Speaker 1: as far as making a trail is concerned. But I

1550
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 1: guess I've I've cut some branches so I'm not having

1551
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 1: to you know, crawl to my tree stand if that

1552
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 1: makes sense. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I've never done like

1553
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 1: the raking leaves thing because I always thought, well, what's

1554
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 1: the point of raking leaves in August when I'm gonna

1555
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 1: come back in October and there's gonna be all these

1556
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 1: new leaves on top of that. Um. But I know

1557
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 1: some guys who go in even during the season, on

1558
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:45,640
Speaker 1: like rainy days, and we'll rake their trails, And I'm like,

1559
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:48,719
Speaker 1: I'm torn because I hate the idea of going into

1560
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 1: the property ever to you know, potentially spooked dear. But

1561
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 1: you know, I also I love those days when I

1562
01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 1: do have like a trail that happens to be cleared

1563
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 1: and I can just per frickly silently walk into my

1564
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 1: tree like that is the best feeling I love a

1565
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:07,479
Speaker 1: perfectly silent I no, I didn't spook any deer entry.

1566
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but I I have this

1567
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 1: really crazy obsession with entering and exiting tree stands. Like

1568
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:18,800
Speaker 1: my stress levels as high as it gets, maybe hut

1569
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 1: when I'm going in and out, like, I am so

1570
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 1: paranoid about spooking deer, and when I do spook a deer,

1571
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 1: like I just I'm sitting there just cussing, and I'm

1572
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 1: so mad at myself. I'm like, god, dagn it. Um.

1573
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 1: So I just I hate crappy at entry routes and

1574
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 1: I love the really quiet ones. So I'm trying to

1575
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:40,639
Speaker 1: get a little better every year making more of those

1576
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:43,560
Speaker 1: really good quiet ones, because um, it just makes me

1577
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 1: a happier hunter. I guess when it comes October November,

1578
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 1: there's there's nothing that pisses you off more. When you're

1579
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:52,720
Speaker 1: you know, you're tiptoeing through the timber and you know

1580
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:54,720
Speaker 1: you get to base your tree or something like that,

1581
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 1: then you're off. You know that that the does blow

1582
01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 1: and and uh kind of potentially ruined, ruined things. So

1583
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 1: my heart just sinks, especially in Michigan. Like I'm less

1584
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:09,679
Speaker 1: concerned in like Ohio or I or these other states.

1585
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 1: But at least here in my home stay, I know

1586
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:14,639
Speaker 1: I usually have one chance at one of these bucks.

1587
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:16,679
Speaker 1: Like literally, I have one chance to make a mistake.

1588
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 1: Because what I'm saying, so if I do one thing wrong,

1589
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:21,719
Speaker 1: like if I spook them once, that's usually my only

1590
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 1: chance to spook that deer that I'll have to see

1591
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:27,320
Speaker 1: him in daylight. Um. Once these bucks here, at least

1592
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:30,320
Speaker 1: on my proper, my main property too. If I have

1593
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 1: one ben encounter, they smell me once, usually I never

1594
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 1: see get daily pictures of them. I never see him again.

1595
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 1: So I'm like every time I go in or out,

1596
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 1: I'm just on pins and needles, like thinking, I need

1597
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:43,360
Speaker 1: to do every single thing right, um right in gosh

1598
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 1: to to blow it when you're walking to your tree stand,

1599
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 1: that's that's a bummer. Yeah, but you gotta do it right.

1600
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:54,200
Speaker 1: You gotta go in another And sometimes I'm start to

1601
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:56,760
Speaker 1: get fired up. I'm I'm really fired up. I have,

1602
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 1: like you know, I've been out in Montana and Idaho

1603
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:01,880
Speaker 1: last couple of months and been doing all sorts of

1604
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 1: other stuff, but I have got like a wicked case

1605
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:09,559
Speaker 1: of summertime buck fever. Right, Now, Um, like last night,

1606
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 1: I got home and I've got my binoculars on the

1607
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 1: back window, and I can overlook this being filled by

1608
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:18,720
Speaker 1: my house and we're watching a movie, my wife and I.

1609
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:21,360
Speaker 1: But like every fifteen minutes, I'm leaning over her trying

1610
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:25,800
Speaker 1: to look out the window. Trustee, if there's anything out there. Yeah,

1611
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:28,519
Speaker 1: well I got a little visitor here just came into

1612
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 1: the room. We heard that. Yeah, come here. She's just

1613
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 1: said hi, Yeah, hey, come here. I know you've got

1614
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 1: a mouthful of cookies. But say, say hi, Mark, Hi, Hi,

1615
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 1: how are you? How? How? He says? How are you?

1616
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 1: Is your daddy gonna kill a big buck this year? Well,

1617
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:55,760
Speaker 1: you don't have to. I'm asking you. I'm asking you,

1618
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 1: is daddy? Is daddy gonna kill a big buck this year?

1619
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 1: Is Mark gonna kill a big buck this year? Oh? Man,

1620
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 1: I'm doomed on a daily basis. That is awesome. I'm sorry.

1621
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 1: I really hope she's wrong. Yeah, I know. Hey, Well,

1622
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta wrap this episode up. Baby. This

1623
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 1: might be a good might be because because now she's

1624
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:37,559
Speaker 1: gonna start crying. Hey, say say stay wired to hunt?

1625
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:43,760
Speaker 1: Say stay wired to hunt? No, say stay wired to hunt?

1626
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:49,679
Speaker 1: Very good. I'm sorry, Mark, that's okay. Do you really

1627
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 1: do you have to go? I really gotta go now.

1628
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 1: Al right, Well we'll continue this next time. Then. Well, folks,

1629
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 1: I guess that is going to do it for us today.

1630
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 1: Sorry for the unexpected ending, but you know that's how

1631
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 1: ghosts sometimes. We'll likely have more on these topics as

1632
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:09,599
Speaker 1: we continue on through these final weeks before the season,

1633
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 1: so be sure check back in for that too. Now,

1634
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 1: a few quick reminders before we do shut it down.

1635
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:18,040
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1636
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 1: leave us a rating or review for this podcast on

1637
01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:24,000
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Speaker 1: A rating, a review there can really help us and

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1640
01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:31,639
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1641
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:34,120
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1642
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1643
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1644
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1645
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1646
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:47,639
Speaker 1: those companies ourselves so big, thank you too. Sick of Gear, Trophy,

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1648
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1649
01:25:57,479 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 1: And finally, thank you all for tuning in today. Hope

1650
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 1: you enjoyed it. I hope it's inspired you to get

1651
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 1: out and finish that summer prep. And of course, as

1652
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 1: Dan's daughter said so well, stay wired to hunt. H