1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,559 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody. Tuesday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: Sexton Show kicks off right now. Thanks for being with 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: us from all across this great land. Right as we're 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: speaking to you, of course, we are alive. President Trump 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: is holding a cabinet meeting. We were watching it right 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: until the moment we had to come on the air. 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: We are monitoring for the most important moment, so we 8 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: will bring you those. He's continuing to talk about a 9 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: range of subjects, the obviously President, addressing the terrible floods 10 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: in the Hill Country of Texas, also discussing that matters 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: having to do with the economy and the border. Specifically 12 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: on the economy that we've already seen one hundred billion 13 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: dollars come in of revenue to the Treasury as a 14 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: result of the Trump tariffs. The tariffs that we were 15 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: told would raise the price on everything, which does not 16 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: seem to have happened at all. And Scott Bessen's, his 17 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: Treasury Secretary, went on to say it is expected soon 18 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: that there will be more like three hundred billion dollars 19 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: that will come in to the Treasury as a result 20 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: of the Trump tariffs. Three hundred billion dollars a lot 21 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: of money even for this federal government. That's one hundred 22 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: billion in here, one hundred billion there. This is real money. 23 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: So I think it's interesting to see how the evolution 24 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: of the conversation around tariffs is moving so rapidly to 25 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: not only are tariffs failing to do the price gouging 26 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,559 Speaker 1: price increases that we were told, but actually bringing money 27 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: into the Treasury Department. So I think that's particularly interesting. 28 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: We've also got some fantastic guest today, just to give 29 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: you a heads up about that. The Energy Secretary Chris 30 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: Wright will be with us. Let's talk about what mega 31 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: make energy great again? How about that. We're gonna talk 32 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: about energy and how this administration is all systems go 33 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: on and tapping into the incredible resources that this nation 34 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: has more so than ever, and getting rid of the 35 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: red tape and getting rid of the nonsense and getting 36 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: rid of the green new scam nonsense. So we'll discuss 37 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: that with Heim. We've also got Selena Zito, author and journalists. 38 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: She'll be with us. He's got a new book out 39 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: talking about the attempted assassination Donald Trump. Will discuss with 40 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: her what her research found. But Clay, I want to 41 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: start with this. Some very interesting things going on in 42 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: the immigration realm. First of all, you've got Mayor Karen Bass, 43 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: the mayor of Los Angeles, very upset and telling members 44 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: of Immigration and Customs enforcement that they need to stop 45 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: what they're doing, and by that she means stop enforcing 46 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: the law. They had an operation where they were going 47 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: through a park in Los Angeles and they were picking 48 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: up illegals. The details of this I'm still reading up 49 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: on specifically how many people, how many people they took 50 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: into custody. But they had this operation where they were 51 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: going to get illegals, and the mayor of Los Angeles 52 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: shows up and says that this needs it stuff. This 53 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: is her. This is that MacArthur Park. As federal agents 54 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: are raiding the area. This is cut four. Listen to this. 55 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 2: My comments is they need to leave, and they need 56 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 2: to leave right now. 57 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: Unacceptable. Uh No, actually, Clay, they don't need to leave. 58 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: They're enforcing the law. Their federal agency has no authority 59 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: to stop them, to order them to do anything to them. 60 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: And if she tries, she's breaking federal law, which Los 61 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: Angeles is still a part of the United States and 62 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: therefore falls under federal jurisdiction, and there's just none of 63 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: this nonsense that we should be accepting. I want to 64 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: get into also some of the way the rhetoric that's 65 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: out there is creating. I saw those two ambush attempts. 66 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: One time a ICE member shot in the neck. We'll 67 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: talk about that in a second Clay. They really think 68 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: that the law doesn't count somehow in these sanctuary cities, 69 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: that there's some argument to be made that federal law 70 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: has no real bearing on what's going on, just because 71 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: they say so. This is a very important moment in 72 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: the rule of law for this country. 73 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, and again it goes to the very basics of 74 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 3: the supremacy clause, which is why I don't really even 75 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 3: understand what the attempt is here. The United States president 76 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 3: controls immigration law. And so we had this discussion because 77 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom, remember when he was making a big show 78 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 3: of hey, the president doesn't have the ability to call 79 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 3: out the guard here in the state of California, And 80 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 3: there was one federal District court judge that agreed, and 81 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 3: then it immediately got slapped down by the Ninth Circuit, 82 00:04:58,240 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 3: and we came on and said, this is kind of 83 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 3: a foundational issue it is a foundational issue that the 84 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: president of the United States has control over immigration law 85 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 3: across the entirety of the country, whether it's a blue 86 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 3: state or a blue city or not. And a part 87 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 3: of me thinks, and tell me if, because I'm trying 88 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 3: to think of this strategically, the only way this makes 89 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 3: sense is if you just are desperate to be arrested 90 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 3: by the President of the United States because that helps 91 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 3: you politically when it comes to your standing in the 92 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 3: Democrat Party. This in no way actually benefits the city. 93 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 3: It certainly doesn't benefit the state. Look, have you ever 94 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 3: seen a study on this, because I would love to 95 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 3: see a study on this. Mom, Donnie got elected in 96 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 3: New York City and I see these as all connected, 97 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 3: or got the nomination for the Democrat Party in New 98 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 3: York City for the mayorship by basically arguing rent is 99 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 3: too expensive, we need to rent, freeze rent, and really 100 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 3: he argued products are too expensive. Life is too expensive 101 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 3: in New York City. You lived in New York City 102 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 3: for a while, I don't know what the numbers would reflect. 103 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 3: Jd Vance made this argument a bit on the debate 104 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 3: against Mike Walls Tim Walls, and then it got shot 105 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 3: down didn't get much attention beyond that, what would it 106 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 3: do to rent if there were no illegal immigrants in 107 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 3: New York City? 108 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: Well, I believe that the laws of supply and demand 109 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: still matter even when Democrats wish they wouldn't. So, yes, 110 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: there would be more housing that would open up. This 111 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: is true in New York City, this is true nationwide. 112 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: The same way that they say, who's going to work 113 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: in the meat plant once the illegals have been removed 114 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: from it? Americans? That's actually what happens. That's how supply. Yeah, 115 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: this has been fascinating because the rhetorical question that they 116 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: think they're asking actually has an answer. Who's going to 117 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: take these jobs? Americans who get paid on the books 118 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: and a real wage. 119 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 3: So I would love the fact that we've never really 120 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 3: seen a study, and maybe some of you have if 121 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 3: we have. According to Tom Holman, twenty million illegals in 122 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 3: the United States. That's what he told me a couple 123 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 3: of months ago. He thought was the actual number. Now 124 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 3: some of you are going to say, hey, I think 125 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 3: it's thirty, or I think it's forty or whatever the 126 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 3: number is. Tom Holman said twenty. So I'm going to 127 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 3: use twenty as a rough approximation, those numbers are overwhelmingly 128 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 3: slotted in cities like New York, Chicago, and LA. What 129 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: would rents do if you just eliminated illegal immigrants from 130 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 3: the rental universe? To your point, natural laws of supplying 131 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 3: demand would suggest they would come down substantially. 132 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: It's even worse than that. Unfortunately, the city of New 133 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: York has some of the most oppressive and anti anti 134 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: property owner laws in the entire country. And there's also 135 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: rent control, which is just a government mandated spoil system 136 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: that people abuse. And I'm sorry if some people live 137 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: in rent control department's good for you, but you're actually 138 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: kind of milking the system. That's just the truth I had. 139 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: I you know, my first my girlfriend when I was 140 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: in high school, she lived in a rent control department. 141 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: And when her parents told me what she was paying, 142 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: I remember I was like, Wow, that's like a couple 143 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: hundred bucks a month for a huge apartment. I was like, 144 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: that's weird. So look, it's it's a spoil system and 145 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: it artificially raises the cost of housing the same way 146 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: that illegal immigration raised the cost of housing. Here's here's 147 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: another one, Clay, They estimate, and they have pretty good 148 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: numbers on this because they have to build people. Thirty 149 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: percent of emergency room visits in New York City last 150 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: year were illegal immigrants. Thirty Yeah, So if thirty percent 151 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: of the er visits are illegals, now, I know you say, oh, 152 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: but they don't have access to frontline care. That's why 153 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: they're going. Yeah, but what would happen if you didn't 154 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: have those illegals. You'd have a whole lot more er capacity, 155 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't you. You'd have much shorter er weights, wouldn't you. 156 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 1: The same concepts, the same ideas apply to housing, apply 157 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: to employment, apply because supply and demand is a real thing. 158 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 3: Which is why I think Republicans should start making that argument, 159 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 3: because there are a lot of people out there who 160 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 3: feel like goods cost way more than they used to, 161 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 3: and that's the function of inflation. Inflation comes down, it 162 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 3: doesn't ever go away. It's like putting on weight. You 163 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 3: eventually have to you know, you don't ever get typically 164 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 3: negative cost of goods. So you're trying to get around 165 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 3: two percent a year, it's still going to add up. 166 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 3: I saw our friend Jesse Kelly shared something that since 167 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 3: COVID one hundred thousand dollars today one hundred thousand dollars 168 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty. You need one hundred and twenty five 169 00:09:55,720 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 3: k today to have the same purchasing power. Basically, everything 170 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 3: costs about twenty five percent more than it did in 171 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 3: twenty twenty, which is a function of inflation, because we 172 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 3: judge inflation on a year to year basis, not on 173 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 3: a multi year basis, so that nine percent inflation got 174 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 3: perpetually embedded, and so really goods have increased in value 175 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 3: by about the cost of them has increased by about 176 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 3: twenty five percent just over the last five years. 177 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: And you look at what happens when the government starts 178 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: playing this game of influencing the numbers in the market, 179 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 1: whether it's for housing or employment, playing these games by 180 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: allowing the legal immigrants to get you know, work papers 181 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: and all these things, it has tremendous costs. Obamacare, this 182 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: has been largely forgotten, was supposed to bring down the 183 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: cost of healthcare. Everybody do you remember that? Does anybody remember? 184 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 1: That was the big promise. Yeah, you're all going to 185 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: be covered covered quote unquote, but it's going to bring 186 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: on the cost of healthcare. It didn't do that healthcare 187 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: is actually just getting more expensive all the time. It's 188 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: super heavily regulated and it is more expensive. Kind of 189 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: like housing stock in Los Angeles. Very hard to build 190 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: new homes in LA new apartment buildings a million different 191 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: environmental and union and local regulations. Same thing is true 192 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: in New York City. These places are infringing on the 193 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: market and causing huge problems. So yes, with the illegals, 194 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: despite what Mayor Bass says, they're called illegals once again 195 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: for a reason because they're breaking the law. And I 196 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: think Tom Homan really got to this when he said 197 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: that they're arresting non criminals. He's like, they're not allowed 198 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: to be here. The whole point is that this is 199 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: cut ten. He's like, we're arresting the people who are 200 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: not supposed to be in the United States. That is 201 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: the fundamental problem. Yeah, and that cut ten. 202 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 4: Great country. Legally, you're not off the table. I mean 203 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 4: people are actually people are you know saying we're resting 204 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 4: non criminals. Well, during the country leagally, that's our job 205 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 4: and we total ice agents in the process going out, 206 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 4: but from the bad guy. And this is the problem 207 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 4: sanctuary cities. When we go to the community to go 208 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 4: find a criminal. Many times you're with others, others that 209 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 4: may not be a criminal target, but they're in the 210 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 4: United States illegally, they're coming to We're going to force 211 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 4: immigration law. Unlike the last administration, where Secretary of majorca 212 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 4: is instructured ice. You can't arrest an illegal alien for 213 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 4: simply being here at legally. They got to be arrested 214 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 4: being convicted of a serious criminal offense. He me wrote 215 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 4: the law. That's not what the law says. We're going 216 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 4: to force law. That's what the people put President Trump 217 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 4: in office to do, and that's what we're doing. 218 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 3: Enforce the law. And we have shut down the border. 219 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 3: But again, if you take Tom Homan at his word, 220 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 3: and there's twenty million illegals here, even at three thousand 221 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 3: deportations a day, it would take decades to get that 222 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 3: twenty million out of the country. 223 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: That's the reality. 224 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,599 Speaker 3: It's why Tom Holman just said, hey, we need to 225 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 3: bump those numbers up to seven thousand a day. We'll 226 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 3: talk more about this, but I do think the only 227 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 3: thing that makes sense for Karen Bass is she's hoping 228 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 3: to get arrested. Gavin Newsom's hoping to get arrested. He 229 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 3: actually call for it because they see it as ultimately 230 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 3: beneficial in the Democrat party, even if it's actually detrimental 231 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 3: to their city and state, which is a sad place 232 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 3: to be look piece in the Israel fragile. Israel's military 233 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 3: acted on Sunday against the Huti rebels after they attack 234 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 3: the ship with materials meant for Israel. 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Find them on the. 251 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 5: Free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 252 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 3: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We said 253 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 3: that Trump is in a cabinet meeting UH, and that 254 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 3: is going on right now. But the awfulness of the 255 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 3: flood that happened in Texas continues to to be explored, 256 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 3: to be taken to be examined, and Trump has tried 257 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 3: to stay out of the way, and to the extent 258 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 3: that any of you are in that area, they have asked, Hey, 259 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 3: the money is significant, but please don't be sending drones 260 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 3: up into the sky because they had a conf licked 261 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 3: a collision between a helicopter that was trying to save 262 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 3: people and drones. But I mean, just get out of 263 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 3: the way, right unless you are in the in the 264 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 3: the UH, in the safety universe, the first responder universe. 265 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 3: And Trump has made that decision himself and he has said, 266 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 3: I want to make sure things calm down that they 267 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 3: have done everything they can to rescue as many people, 268 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 3: they have stabilized that situation, and then he is going 269 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 3: to go in and bring the media spotlight to that 270 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 3: area to help the recovery process that now is going 271 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 3: to happen on Friday. And here he is just announcing 272 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 3: that he will be going down on Friday. 273 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 6: Listen, I'll be going down on Friday with first Lady, 274 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 6: be taking a trip, and we don't want to get 275 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 6: in anyone's way, because you know, that's what happens if 276 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 6: president goes and everyone's around focused on I don't want 277 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 6: anyone to focus on us. 278 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 7: But as possible they could have, they could have somebody saved. Still, 279 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 7: you know, there's a lot of areas, it's a big area, 280 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 7: and you know, probably unlikely at this point, but there 281 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 7: could be. I mean, they're thinking there could be the possibility. 282 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 6: But what a tragic situation. 283 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 3: Okay, So he is going to go in on Friday. 284 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 3: We were just talking off air, and we'll probably talk 285 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 3: about it some more during the course of today's program. 286 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 3: The amount of toxicity surrounding this, it's rare that I'm 287 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 3: surprised on social media the number of people that are 288 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 3: either directly blaming Trump for the death of kids, or 289 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 3: even celebrating in some way. I can't believe the number 290 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 3: of people I've seen. It's just it's dark and sinister 291 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 3: in a way that is even strange for me. On 292 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 3: social media, there's a viciousness that is indicative of psychopathy 293 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 3: in the comments that I've seen as well, Meaning, these 294 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 3: are deranged individuals. And you know, we didn't want to 295 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 3: spend any time talking about the politicization of it yesterday, 296 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 3: but it's it's even a level beyond the you know, 297 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 3: the usual imbeciles will say something stupid about climate change, 298 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 3: which has nothing to do, you know, nothing to do 299 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 3: with this. 300 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: They'll say that those kinds of things. But to your point, Clay, 301 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: we would think that even people who are politically deranged 302 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: about Trump wouldn't be deranged in their response to the 303 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: just absolutely soul crushing deaths of young girls at a 304 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 1: summer camp. There's a lot of evil out there, and 305 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: and it is it is consolidated on the ideological left. 306 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: I'm I and we'll talk more about that in other 307 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: context today as well. That's what I see going on. 308 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 3: Here, no doubt, and uh, and we're gonna help to 309 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 3: continue to raise money and attention for all the people 310 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 3: as they recovered down in the Texas Hill Country and 311 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 3: the Curville and beyond. 312 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: Uh, but that will keep you updated. Look, the BBB 313 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: has passed, which is great for the economy, but as 314 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: you know, we're raising the debt ceiling five trillion dollar dollars. 315 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: We're thirty seven trillion dollars in debt. The printing is 316 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 1: gonna happen. Clay just talked about how you're now neeting 317 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty five K for one hundred thousand dollars, 318 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: this buying power just five years ago. What can you 319 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: do to offset this? It's on you to take action 320 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: for yourself for your bank account. 321 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 4: Right. 322 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: Trump administration's got to worry about three hundred and fifty 323 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: million people. This is where Birch Gold comes in. Over 324 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: the last year, gold has increased forty percent in value, 325 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: and central banks are bolstering demand by adding to their 326 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: gold reserves. 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We got President Trump with a meeting that 336 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: is still underway as we speak to you. We told 337 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: you to bring you the most important moments of it. 338 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: One of the things we can do for you is 339 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: bring you the stuff you need to know and save 340 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: you some time in the process because the long meeting. 341 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: But we have our team monitoring and we're going through 342 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: these clips in real time. And that includes a discussion 343 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: that just happened moments ago with President Trump and his 344 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: cabinet surrounding him and some reporters asking about the Sunday 345 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: evening Epstein memo from the DOJ let's Trump and bond 346 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:37,479 Speaker 1: and ag Bondi Attorney General Pam Bondi both responded on 347 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: this issue. Let's hear first from President Trump on Epstein 348 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: Plate twenty nine and your memo and release his jam 349 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. 350 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 8: It lets some lingering mysteries of one of the biggest 351 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 8: ones is whether he ever worked for a American for 352 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 8: foreign intelligence agency. The former Laker secretary who is Miami, 353 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 8: he was attorney Now say a leisuredly said that he 354 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 8: did for intelligence agency. 355 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 1: So could you resolve whether or not you did? 356 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 8: And also could you see why there was a minute 357 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 8: missing from the jail house step. 358 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, sir, I just interested. 359 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 9: Are you still talking about Jeffrey and Epstein? This guy's 360 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 9: been talked about for years. You're asking me. We have Texas, 361 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 9: we have this, we have all of the things, and 362 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 9: are people still talking about this guy, this creep that 363 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 9: is unbelievable. Do you want to waste the time? 364 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 1: And do you feel like answering? 365 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 2: I don't mind answering. 366 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 9: I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on 367 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 9: at Epstein at a time like this where we're having 368 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 9: some of the greatest success and also tragedy with what 369 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 9: happened in Texas. 370 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 7: It just seems like a desecration. 371 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: But like, what do you make of that response? 372 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 3: Well, I think Pam Bondi answers as well. Uh in 373 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 3: more earnest, So let's listen to that and then we'll 374 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 3: break it down to me. 375 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: It sounds like Trump is not. 376 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 3: Spending much time I'm on Epstein, and so that he's 377 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 3: maybe not aware of how big of a story this 378 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 3: has been on social media, because sometimes I will criticize 379 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 3: media people who ask questions and you'll say, come on, 380 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 3: there's four billion things that mattered. This is far down 381 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 3: the list. This asking you a question about Epstein today 382 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 3: to the Attorney General seems very relevant given that they 383 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 3: just announced and put out. 384 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: They just put out, they just put out the memo. 385 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 1: So Pam BONDI, let's get here. The age does now. Look, 386 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: I think Trump is honestly, he talks more about the 387 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: Texas thing. I think he's he feels for what's gone 388 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: on here and his mind is there, and that is 389 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: right now, a far more important story and far more 390 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: you know, necessary for us to get all the details 391 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: and everything. But the Age. The Attorney General did address 392 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 1: the question about Epstein. Here's what she said, Play thirty. 393 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,719 Speaker 2: In February. I did an interview on Fox and it's 394 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 2: been getting a lot of attention because I said, I 395 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 2: was asked a question about the client list, and my 396 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 2: response was it's sitting on my desk to be reviewed, 397 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 2: meaning the file along with the jk MLK files as well. 398 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 2: That's what I meant by that. Also to the tens 399 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 2: of thousands of video they turned out to be child 400 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 2: porn downloaded by that disgusting Jeffrey Epstein. Childborn is what 401 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 2: they were never going to be released, never going to 402 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,959 Speaker 2: see the light of day. To him being an agent, 403 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 2: I have no knowledge about that. We can get back 404 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 2: to you on that. And the minute missing from the video. 405 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 2: We released the video showing definitively the video was not conclusive, 406 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 2: but the evidence prior to it was showing he committed suicide. 407 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 2: And what was on that there was a minute that was. 408 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: Off the counter. 409 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 2: And what we learned from your own prisons was every year, 410 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 2: every night they redo that videos old from like nineteen 411 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 2: ninety nine, So every night the video is reset and 412 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 2: every night should have the same minute missing. So we're 413 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 2: looking for that video to release that as well as 414 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 2: showing that a minute is missing every night. And that's 415 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 2: it on Epstein. 416 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 1: So there is a missing minute that's from the Attorney General. Well, 417 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. I know she's saying there's a missing 418 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: minute every night, but people are gonna say, well, the 419 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: prison knew there was a missing minute every night from 420 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: the footage. Right, you know, we've all seen enough enough 421 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 1: cat burglar movies and stuff where if you know where 422 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: the cameras are and you avoid the you know what 423 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Look, I'm not saying it's nefarious necessarily. I'm 424 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 1: just saying the people that initially said there's a minute 425 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: missing were pounced on online for you know, conspiracy stuff. 426 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: And there's the Attorney General saying there is a minute missing, 427 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: it's missing every night. But why didn't we know that before? 428 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: That seems like a pretty important if your whole thing 429 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 1: is nobody could have gotten into the cell. Oh, but 430 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 1: there's a sixty second period where we have no evidence 431 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: of anything, but that happens every night, Clay. My point 432 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: here is that should have been in the memo. 433 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 4: You. 434 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: The way this has been handled, at a minimum from 435 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: a messaging point of view, has created more problems than 436 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: it has solved. Yeah. 437 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 3: Look, the Attorney General, in her answer to that Fox 438 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 3: News question, and I understand her saying it's on my desk, 439 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 3: was not. 440 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: I give her. I think that's so. I think she's 441 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: being honest on that. I think she just if you 442 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: listen to what she said, she meant, like, all the 443 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: Epstein stuff is on my desk, and you can yell 444 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: at me for covering for I don't cover for any 445 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: of these people. I think that's valid. I think there 446 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: are other problems though, which we're addressing. Yeah. 447 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,959 Speaker 3: Look, I think they could have handled this if they 448 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 3: had come out and said, we have reviewed all of 449 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 3: the evidence and there is nothing else there from a 450 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 3: criminal perspective that is still in the files. I think 451 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 3: that people might accept it, but they would at least 452 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 3: understand that these guys are doing everything they can, which 453 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 3: I believe. Again to your point, like I don't I've 454 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 3: never met Pambondy. I mean, to my knowledge, I don't 455 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 3: think she's ever coming on the radio program. Yeah no, 456 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 3: so I have no like defense mechanism set up for 457 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 3: Pambondy in any way. Uh, we like cash and we 458 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 3: like Dan Bongino. I'll speak to them directly. 459 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: I would. 460 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 3: There's zero percent chance, in my opinion, that Dan Bongino 461 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 3: gave up a multi million dollar media gig so he 462 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,959 Speaker 3: could go to the FBI and somehow not tell you 463 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 3: what he saw in the Jeffrey Epstein files. There is 464 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 3: a zero experiance. Completely agree and we know cash, well 465 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 3: zero percent chance on there. So you either are of 466 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 3: the opinion. I mean, I'm just gonna be straightforward with 467 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 3: everybody out there because some people. You're either of the 468 00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 3: opinion that everyone that you used to trust before they 469 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 3: got into these jobs decided they got into these jobs 470 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 3: and they are going to cover up for Jeffrey Epstein 471 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 3: to create an even larger conspiracy, or or they have 472 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 3: looked at all of the existing documents and there's nothing 473 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 3: else there. 474 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: I am in the ladder camp. Okay, let me put 475 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: this out there, though I would have an addendum, an 476 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: asterisk to this. I mean, I I agree no one's 477 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 1: holding anything over dan in cash and making them protect 478 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: like a you know, global Epstein ring. Like I don't 479 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: buy that for one second, And I think that that's 480 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,479 Speaker 1: unhelpful because some people do buy that, and they're going 481 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: to be like, we're we're that. 482 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, the conspiracy never ends. We all desperately want to 483 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 3: protect Jeffrey Epstein and everybody he knew from having at somebody. 484 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: Here's what I will take a sanity pill. There's there's 485 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: you know, there's the question about being a foreign agent. 486 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: For example, with Epstein. This is a guy who was 487 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 1: hanging out with with as we know, with Bill Clinton 488 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 1: and Bill Gates. And this is a matter of public record, Okay, 489 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: hanging out with some of those powerful people in the world. 490 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: Are we really to believe that he actually didn't have 491 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: any contact with any I mean, Clay, you've been hanging 492 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: out with a former at least allegedly a former spy 493 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: for a long time, right, there's a lot of people 494 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: that are in the intel world. I bring this up 495 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: because given his contacts, given his international travel, given his access. 496 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: You'll notice ag Bondy didn't say he was not an 497 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: asset or he's not working with because I think she 498 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: realizes she may not know. I think it may have 499 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: been that's the part I believe. Well, but see, and 500 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: that's the part that may have been well covered up. 501 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 1: That's the kind of stuff. You know, Epstein was a 502 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: heinous criminal. Everyone understands that. I also I'm seeing people 503 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: say there's stuff online to who People saying, oh, well, 504 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: I guess Epstein. You know that. Why Why was Gelian 505 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: Maxwell in prison? Because they were involved in you know, 506 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: sex trafficking of underage underage kids, like hundreds and hundreds 507 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: of times. I mean, it's like the worst stuff imaginable, 508 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: and that's no one's doubting Epstein's guilt. No one's doubting 509 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: I should say nobody should be doubting these things right 510 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: based on the available evidence to it. But that doesn't 511 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,959 Speaker 1: mean that all the questions have been answered. And that 512 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 1: doesn't mean the question about did he have any foreign 513 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: intelligence contacts or access? Maybe it wasn't as sophisticated as 514 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: a global blackmail ring to you know, direct policy, et cetera. 515 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: But I'm telling you heard the Attorney General there, and 516 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: she's being very careful now about her words. We have 517 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: no evidence to that effect. That's not the same she's 518 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: saying Epstein killed themselves. She's not saying Epstein, we know 519 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: for for sure had no foreign intelligence contacts, because that 520 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: would be quite a sweeping thing. So I'm saying there's 521 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: still that that remains an open part of this. And 522 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: I also people are saying that the where he got 523 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: his money from has been No that has not been 524 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: Has that been satisfactorily answered? I don't think. 525 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 3: I think I think a lot of people don't. Let 526 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 3: me take a step back, so one, I think he 527 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 3: probably was on some level intelligence asset I think those 528 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 3: files or whatever were likely destroyed. Maybe they were had 529 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 3: to be destroyed to be fair, to protect the identity 530 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 3: of some of the intelligence assets. I think he likely 531 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 3: blackmailed some of these rich guys and got money basically 532 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 3: paid out to him through this. 533 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: Now he also had. 534 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 3: This like if you want to take a step back 535 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 3: and just say, hey, you know, why would he have 536 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 3: access to all these super rich guys. He had access 537 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 3: to all the victorious Secret models. He had access leave 538 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 3: aside the younger women. He had access to some of 539 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 3: the most beautiful women in the world because he was 540 00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 3: in some sort of relationship I mean financial relationship with 541 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 3: the founder of Victoria's Secret Lex Wexner. 542 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: I believe it's last name. 543 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 3: I think, yes, okay, something like that, and he and 544 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 3: Epstein were tight, and I think Epstein ran hot models 545 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 3: and he hooked them up rich guys with being able 546 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 3: to hang out with hot models. I think also then 547 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 3: Epstein got involved in underage girl trafficking, meaning he was 548 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 3: flying underage girls because he was interested in super young 549 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 3: not super young, but like fifteen, sixteen, seventeen year old girls. Right, 550 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 3: I haven't seen anything about like eight or nine or 551 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 3: something like that like under eighteen young women, some of them, 552 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 3: but he had access to Victoria's Secret, supermodels, super rich guys. 553 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 3: Does it surprise you that Bill Clinton might have gotten 554 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 3: on the phone with Epstein? And Epstein said, Hey, you 555 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 3: know the girl who's on the cover of the latest 556 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 3: Victorious Secret fashion catalog. 557 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: She's going to be at my party. She's going to 558 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: be at my house. Do you want to come hang 559 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: out with her? Like? 560 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 3: I think there was a lot of that. I think 561 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 3: there was a lot of I've got access to super 562 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 3: hot chicks and I'm going to put you with them now. 563 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 3: I think it's also possible that he then, with some 564 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 3: of the tapes and recording setups that he had in 565 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 3: his house, got very prominent men engaged in behavior that 566 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 3: they would never want to go public, and use that 567 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 3: to his advantage, potentially with intelligence assets, potentially for blackmail purposes, 568 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 3: maybe just to get sweetheart deals in business. 569 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: We have this data point of he brought a very 570 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: you know, a a minor on the plane to Prince Andrew. 571 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: According to that, I believe she's now passed away. It's 572 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: as sad, right, she didn't she die recently? I think, yeah, 573 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: but she alleged very publicly that her and Prince Andrew, 574 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: remember the Royal family, So we're being told, oh, no, 575 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: Epstein was the only one who who did any of this. 576 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: But we have the photo of the guy with the 577 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: girl and the allegation from the girl, and are we 578 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: to believe that she wasn't to be believed? Is that? 579 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: What did you see? What I'm saying? No, No, theuring women, 580 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: so to speak, trafficking for other people we knew he 581 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: had and he had access to Like you and I 582 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: if we wanted to get in touch with a member 583 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: of the royal family to hang out with, I don't 584 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: think we could do it. 585 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 3: So he had access. I mean to we we were 586 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 3: pretty cool. We could probably I don't. 587 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: Think I could get Prince well. 588 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 3: Like, my point is, I think the rich guys started 589 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 3: talking and they said, hey, Epstein's got access to a 590 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 3: bunch of super hot chicks sometimes Victoria's secret models through Wexner. 591 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: Uh. 592 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 3: And I think that he leveraged all of that to 593 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 3: his benefit. And it feels to me buck unlikely that 594 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 3: at some point, given the international connections, that there were 595 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 3: not some intelligence asset related to activity right. 596 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: It's she will not she can she cannot confirm there 597 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: were no you know, she can't prove the negative, So 598 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: PANMBONDI is saying, I can't say there were no Intel 599 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: Intel connections. So that's part one. I think this thing 600 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: has been mishandled. There was a lot of over over promising. 601 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: That's part two. And I still have open questions about this, 602 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: and I'm not convinced that we know the whole story. 603 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: That's my part three. I think you and I see 604 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: this the same way largely, right. I mean, is there 605 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: anything that I'm going to know? 606 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 3: I think that And if people, by the way disagree 607 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 3: with this, you want to let way in and tell 608 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 3: us things that were missing eight hundred and two A 609 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 3: two two eight A two, let us know. 610 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: Look, having a pair of rapid radios is a really 611 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: good communication insurance policy. 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Find them on the free iHeartRadio app 638 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 5: or wherever you get your. 639 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: Podcasts, Welcome back in. 640 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 3: I've got the whole show with all my different offf 641 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 3: air theories. Uh, and I'll share some of those now, 642 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 3: which is always dangerous, but like the idea, let me 643 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,479 Speaker 3: just kind of dive into this at its most basic level. 644 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 3: Why would all of these super famous people want to 645 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 3: hang out with Jeffrey Epstein? Like that is the number 646 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 3: one question that I think you can ask. Why are 647 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 3: all these guys Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, the Prince or 648 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 3: whatever the heck his name is over there, Prince Philip, 649 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 3: I think, unless I'm saying the Prince Andrew whatever that 650 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 3: guy's name, Yeah, sorry, you're the British. 651 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 1: I I love The Crown Clay over there. 652 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 3: I think The Crown is an amazing show. And my 653 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 3: wife listens to an embarrassing number of British podcasts. It's 654 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 3: unbelievable to me. I walk in and every time she's 655 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 3: got a British podcast on. Why were they hanging out 656 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,479 Speaker 3: with him? That's the number one question you should ask. 657 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 3: The answer is because he had access to really good 658 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 3: looking women, most of them, I think initially a lot 659 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 3: of times the Victoria's Secret models. Okay, that's why they 660 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 3: were hanging out. And Buck, you were a former CIA guy. 661 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 3: But this is not revolutionary all of you know it. 662 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 3: What's one of the number number, number one ways that 663 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 3: intelligence agencies get dirt on men, pretty nimbles, honey pot schemes. 664 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: Well, they either either blackmail them if they're married, or 665 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: they just get them to spill secrets, you know, with 666 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: pillow talk. But it's a huge risk to this day. 667 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: It has been for as long as people have been 668 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: doing intel ops. 669 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 3: Some would say it's the only undefeated thing that has 670 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 3: ever existed in the history of the world. And you 671 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 3: know what I'm talking about, That to me is actually 672 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 3: the story here. They were likely using him to get 673 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,760 Speaker 3: advantages on these guys.