WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Stronger 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:06.519 Hi again, everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 0:00:06.519 --> 0:00:10.959 The Bengals Booth Podcast, the What Doesn't Kill You Makes 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:15.760 You Stronger edition, as we look back at the latest 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:19.280 gut punch for Bengals players, coaches, and fans, a twenty 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:23.720 three all overtime tie in Philadelphia. Coming up, you'll hear 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:27.760 radio replays, postgame comments from players and coaches, and in 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:31.760 depth analysis from Dave Lapham, and the fun Facts segment 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:34.360 returns this week is You'll get to know the person 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:38.720 under the pads as I visit with rookie called Kareem. 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:42.239 The Bengals Booth Podcast is presented by Prime Sport, the 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:46.360 official hospitality partner of the Cincinnati Bengals. And here's a 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:48.600 quick reminder that you can have the latest edition of 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:52.440 this podcast delivered right to your phone, tablet, or computer 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:58.080 by subscribing on iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play, Spotify, or pod Bean. 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:04.120 It's the greatest thing since Memorable Villains. I've been listening 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:08.440 to the Talking Sopranos podcast lately. In it, actors Michael 0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:12.880 Imperioli and Steve Shirippa who played Christopher Moltisanti and Bobby 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:17.000 Bacala on the Sopranos TV series are going back and 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:21.160 doing a deep dive into every episode they've just finished 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:25.040 season two. The podcast comes out once a week, so 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:27.560 I listen to it and then go back and rewatch 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:31.400 the episode in any case. The big villain in season 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:35.200 two is Ritchie Aprile, who is on my short list 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:39.240 of greatest villains in TV history, along with Gus Fring 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:43.400 from Breaking Bad and Ramsey Bolton from Game of Thrones. 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:47.600 Actually about half of the cast of Game of Thrones. 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:52.480 My least favorite villain of all time is Ben Roethlisberger. 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:58.040 Just kidding. Now, let's get to the game. We're going 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:00.680 to do the radio replace a little bit differently this 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:03.960 week and break them down into three categories, the good, 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:09.600 the bad, and the ugly. The good was the Bengals 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:12.919 passing game as Joe Burrow through for three hundred twelve yards, 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:16.480 including a pair of touchdowns to a fellow rookie. Tightly 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:19.119 bunched formation for the Bengals, Burrow fakes a hand off 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:23.360 to Mixon, throws into the end zone, touchdown Tea Higgins 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:26.919 in the back of the end zone, beautifully floated by 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:30.399 Joe Burrow, and the Bengals take the lead with one 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:32.919 twenty nine left in the half, first and goal from 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:35.680 the four. Burrow is under center, takes the snap, fakes 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:38.040 to Mixon looking to throw, throws it into the end zone, 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:43.600 touchdown Tea Higgins his second touchdown catch of the afternoon, 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:46.480 and the Bengals have a chance to regain the lead. 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:49.720 That second touchdown pass put the Bengals in front by 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:52.680 one point in the third quarter, but on the drive 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:55.959 after that, following an interception at the Philadelphia forty four 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:58.880 by Lashawn Simms, the Bengals had a first down at 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:02.120 the Philly thirteen and had to settle for a field goal. 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:05.480 One drive later, they had first and goal at the 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:09.720 four and had to settle for another field goal. Turn 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:12.799 either of those red zone opportunities into a touchdown and 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:16.919 the Bengals almost certainly win the game. Here's Tyler Boyd 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:20.040 who had ten catches for one hundred twenty five yards. 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:22.040 That's not how you're gonna win game, you know, Just 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:25.320 keep driving and driving and getting there, like actually getting 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:28.160 there five yards away, eight years away, ten yards away. 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:31.080 Three point ain't gonna win in this league. Every week 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:33.920 is going to be tough. But whoever found a way 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:35.720 to score touchdown is going to be the team nine win, 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:39.600 and that leads us to the bad. For the most part, 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:43.880 the Bengals defense played well. Philadelphia had thirteen possessions and 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:47.760 only scored two touchdowns, but those tds came in the 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:51.240 final seconds of each half. When the Bengals had the 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:53.520 lead from the twenty nine, Wentz his back to throw 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:56.480 the linebackers back into coverage. The throw caught by a 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:59.760 wide open Ward and he runs into the end zone 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:03.760 with sixteen seconds left in the half. What happened to 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:07.320 the Bengals coverage there? Wentz ready for a shotgun. Snappy 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:10.680 has Miles Sanders to his right, three receivers left, one 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:12.680 out to the right. Wentz has the ball. He's looking 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:16.200 left from the fifty. Under pressure, Wentz now rolling right, 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:20.839 being chased by Hubbard, Wentz will run five pylon touchdown. 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:24.400 The touchdown with sixteen seconds left in the half came 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:27.520 after Randy Bullock hooked to kick off out of bounds 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:30.040 to give Philly the ball at the forty yard line. 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:33.320 The touchdown with twenty one seconds left in regulation to 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:36.880 force overtime came after the Bengals got called for two 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:41.440 pass interference penalties. While trying to cover rookie wide receiver 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:45.159 John high Tower. He entered the game with one catch 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:48.880 from minus two yards, and those penalties added up to 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:53.760 twenty eight yards on Philadelphia's final drive. Each team basically 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:56.520 had three drives in overtime without being able to score, 0:04:56.880 --> 0:05:00.000 and the game ended in a twenty three all tie. 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:03.760 Here are Zach Taylor and Joe Burrow. I've never tied 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:09.160 in my life, um so, so it feels strange for sure, 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:11.000 but but I know it sure Zell doesn't feel like 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:13.440 we won. Um that's what. That's what I can't tell you. 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:17.200 And just so many, so many opportunities we had out there. Um, 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:20.440 we just missed that one game breaking play there at 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:22.880 the end, you know. And there were some some things 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:25.239 from both sides, all three phases really that were positive. 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:27.479 There's just no no game changing moment there that took 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:30.880 that game over for us. It'll never be about momentum 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:35.920 or positive experiences to me. I'm about winning. Um, I 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:39.640 expect to win. I know we expect to win. I'm 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:42.000 no moral victories around here. This is a loss to me. 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:45.000 I don't really know. We didn't win, and that leads 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:48.280 to the ugly Burrow waiting for a shotgun snap, has 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:50.680 the ball against the four man rush, gets hit from 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:54.160 behind and its sacked back at Cincinnati's forty eight yard line. 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:57.560 I'm third down at eight. Burrow under pressure and sacked 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:00.560 back at the forty five yard line. Burrow drops back 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:02.640 to throw, try to kill a little bit of time. 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:05.840 He's met in the backfield, and he's sacked. To end 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:08.640 the half, a fake a handoff to Mixing, Burrow pump 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:11.719 fakes and get sacked. He goes down as the safety 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:14.440 Jalen Mills was closing in second and goal from the 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:17.320 eight coming up for Cincinnati. Burrow has Mixing off his 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:20.320 left hip, catches a shotgun snap, drops back to throw, 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:23.919 pocket closes and Joe will be sacked back at the 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:26.640 sixteen yard line. Burrows under center on first and ten, 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:29.720 stomps the right foot, sends Tate in motion behind him. 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:33.719 Burrow fakes a handoff in trouble. Burrow trying to run 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:35.800 and he will be pulled down for a sack in 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:38.920 a one yard loss. First and ten shotgun snap play 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:42.760 action fake Burrow in trouble, sacked by Graham at the 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:46.080 fourteen yard line. One fifty five left in overtime, the 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:49.440 Bengals at their own fourteen. Burrow under pressure sacked by 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:52.520 Fletcher Cox, who beat Billy Price back at the six 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:56.120 yard line. Sack number eight. Yeah, it was ugly, all right. 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:59.840 Eight sacks and ten additional hits for a total of 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:04.960 eighteen QB hits in Joe Burrow's third NFL game. One 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:08.800 particularly vicious hit by Malik Jackson knocked Burrow out of 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:11.000 the game for one play. The wind knocked out on 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:13.360 me for about ten seconds. They told me I had 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:15.400 to go out for play. I was good after that. 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:17.680 He was good after that. But the same can't be 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:21.200 said of the offensive line. Here's Zach Taylor. That's something 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:23.440 we gotta fix right away. And I don't care what 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:25.400 play your call, You're gonna have problems when you just 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:28.360 can't blocking back for a second. And so that that 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:30.480 part is frustrating, you know. So we just got to 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:32.920 continue to prove and give ourself a better chance. The 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:35.360 Bengals made a change up front during the game, as 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:38.720 Fred Johnson, starting his second straight at right guard, got 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:42.600 pulled for Billy Price. Lap asked Zach Taylor about it 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:45.160 after the game, what do you do at the right guard? Position. 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:48.120 Fred struggled. You put Billy in there, Billy struggled. I 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:50.600 mean that's the real problem, Marea. Where do you go 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:53.160 from here? Yeah, we're trying to figure that out, and 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:55.640 that's something to keep evaluating. They had better find an 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:58.000 answer for the offensive line as a whole, because Burrow 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:02.000 has been sacked fourteen time in three games. That's a 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:06.200 pace for seventy four point six sacks. The record for 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:09.520 a quarterback in a single season is seventy six by 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:14.000 Houston's then rookie and number one overall pick, David Carr. 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:16.440 Here's Tyler Boyd. Do you just to see him take 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:18.240 those hits. It's for him to go down and for 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:20.360 him to get injured, no hurt. So it makes me 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:22.800 want to want to fight whoever done anything to him, 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:24.800 you know so. I mean, like I said, we gotta 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:26.720 we gotta figure out way to protect him, and we 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:28.680 gotta figure out way to make tough catches on iron 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:30.960 as well. It would help if they could run the ball. 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:35.080 Joe Mixon finished with forty nine yards on seventeen carries. 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:39.000 That's two point nine per lug. He was greeted in 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:42.319 his own backfield on most of his seventeen attempts. We 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:43.719 knew we were gonna have to get the ball in 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:47.320 permeter against these guys. They gotta really stout front, you know, 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:49.560 as good as we're gonna face this year, you know, 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:51.760 And so they don't make it easier for you to 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:54.760 run the ball. And so again that that's not what 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:57.640 we want from our run game. There's no question about that. Um, 0:08:57.800 --> 0:08:59.839 we gotta do better job there. After three games, the 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.600 angles are o two and one, where they could be 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:06.320 perhaps even should be two and one, and they have 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:09.679 tied an NFL record they wanted no part of. They 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:13.440 have failed to win their last fifteen games, decided by 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:16.800 one score to tie the all time marks set by 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:21.160 the Chicago Cardinals from nineteen thirty eight to nineteen forty one. 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:26.400 Time for some postgame analysis with my broadcast partner Dave Lapham. Well, 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:30.319 that was different at twenty three all overtime tie in Philadelphia, 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:32.360 a game it felt like like the Bengals had a 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:36.000 million opportunities to win, and as a result, it's a 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:39.200 tie that feels like a loss, no question. I think 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:41.960 both teams feel that way. I don't think both teams 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:45.440 were crisp binding stretch of the imagination and their execution. 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:48.000 I'm not saying that they didn't give effort. You know, 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:51.160 I think both teams, you know, they weren't loafing. They weren't. 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:54.839 It just wasn't that well played. And you know, I 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:59.480 maybe there's a little bit of almost trying too hard, 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:03.120 or or in a situation where I got to make 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:05.440 a play, so I tighten up and grab instead of 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:08.520 trust my technique in coverage, I grab and I have 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:12.040 a you know, a pass interference penalty, or you know, 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:14.120 I just don't run the route the route at the 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:18.240 proper depth, or I don't pass protect and my three 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:21.320 technique the defensive tackle, it's on my outside. Joelda just 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:24.360 blows up the football field like he's a free runner, 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:29.080 and the quarterbacks has no opportunity. I mean again, football 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:32.360 is the ultimate team sport. There's eleven pieces. If you 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:36.000 only have nine or eight operating effectively, you're not going 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:37.760 to get it done. You have to have all eleven 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:41.760 or no more than one mess up. I mean, if ten, 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:44.240 sometimes you can get by, but man, if you have 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:47.520 multiple mess ups on the same play, you're in trouble. 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:52.120 Joe Burrow is sacked eight times. He was hit an 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:57.920 additional ten eighteen hits on your quarterback. Yeah, I think 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:01.040 that's what postgame press conference guys was saying. Eighteen was 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:05.880 the pressure was not the sacks and hits, not just pressures, hits, 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:12.760 actual hits on the quarterback. So again, right guard was 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:17.600 I seventy one. I mean it was there was. They 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:19.640 were in the passing lane on I seventy one, and 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:22.280 there was nothing that was deterring them. Start out with 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:25.640 Fred Johnson at right guard not working out, Billy Price 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:28.240 at right guard didn't work out. I know they've got 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:31.079 Alex Redmon on the practice squad. Dan, I would put 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:35.080 him in there yesterday. Alex Redmond knows, he has an 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:38.400 understanding what they're doing. He's worked next to Bobby Hart, 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:41.520 you know he's he's worked next to Hopkins. It wouldn't 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:44.920 be that tough of a scenario. I know, can they 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:47.160 trust them to stay healthy, That is a big issue. 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:49.640 You know that that trust has to be built up. 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:53.360 But man, telling you the guy from a physical standpoint, 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:56.040 he can play it, he can finish. He's one of 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:59.600 the best finishes in football. I'd give it a shot. 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:02.679 I mean, obviously they're still searching for answers at right guard. 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:07.920 Why not try him as an answer? Yeah, honestly, I 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:11.560 guess I expect that to happen next week against Jacksonville. 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:15.040 In addition to all of the pressure allowed, Joe Mixon 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:18.840 carried seventeen times for forty nine yards, and on nearly 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:22.040 every one of those seventeen carries he's dancing away from 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:26.320 a hit in the backfield. It's going to be unbelievably 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:29.319 frustrating to him. And you know the pin and pull stuff. 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:30.920 I saw quite a bit of that today, but there 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:33.199 was no pinning. You know, the pulling was happening, but 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:36.280 the pullers were getting knocked off at times by penetration. 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:40.959 The pins not pinning people. So, you know, the penetration 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:44.000 in the backfield and Joe Mixon having to make cuts 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:46.560 time after time after time in his own backfield have 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:49.000 to be a big, big source of frustration. I mean, 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:53.520 upfront have to operate at a better level of efficiency. 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:58.480 All five guys, not just every single play. Four happens 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:02.640 doesn't happen, the fifth three happens doesn't happen too. It's 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:04.600 just it's just not going to work. It has to be. 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:06.640 I've said, there's a million times. I'm going to say 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:09.000 it again, it's like a fist. When you make a fist, 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:11.640 there are five components to a fist. Curl your four fingers, 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:14.559 wrap your thumbs. It's like an involuntary reaction. And the 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:16.800 five members of the offensive line are playing together. It's 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:19.560 like making a big, strong fist. If four and you 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:21.920 don't have the fifth, you don't have a fist. You 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:24.960 know it's you're a lot weaker. They have to start 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:29.760 operating and functioning as a group. The Bengals signed a 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:32.640 mid level free agent to help the offensive line, Xaviers 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:35.120 to a Philo. Unfortunately he's injured right now. They didn't 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:38.319 draft an offensive lineman until the sixth round became a 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:41.520 d Energy. I hate to look ahead already to next 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:44.040 year's draft and next year's free agency, but they're going 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:47.800 to have to prioritize whether it's their first draft pick, 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:50.360 whether it's all the money they spend in free agency. 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:55.000 I'm giving Joe Burrow protection no doubt. And you know what, 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:57.000 you don't really want to do this because I know 0:13:57.040 --> 0:14:00.880 ad Energy needs some time to develop, but athletically and physically, 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:03.240 from what I saw a training camp, he cuts the 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:05.839 mustard you know, and maybe throw him in the mix. 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:08.839 And in the uncertainty that you know, the equation the 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:12.719 camp he solved at right guard, maybe he's maybe it's 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:14.520 a lot of pressure on a rookie. You know, that's 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:17.600 a six round pick, a rookie offensive lineman who has 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:20.040 played more tackle than Garb. But we played guard at 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:22.840 the Senior Bowl and operated well there against good players. 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:27.240 You know, at this point, absolutely nothing would be off 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:29.520 the table. Nothing would be off the table as far 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:32.680 as I'm concerned, because it's just not happening at that spot. 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:35.440 I went back this week and looked at video of 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:38.440 the last time the Bengals played the Eagles. They beat 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:40.840 Carson Wentz his rookie year. The final score was thirty 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:44.000 two to fourteen. Andy Dalton had a great game that day, 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:46.080 passed for three hundred and thirty two yards pass a 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:48.560 rating of one thirty. And when I watched the video, 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:53.960 the time that he had to throw deep balls was incredible, 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:58.840 time and space pocket was wide, nobody in his face, 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:01.440 and it made me, you realize that when we keep 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:05.760 talking about this stat about burrows, you know, poor passing 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:08.560 completions on throws twenty or more yards down the field. 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:11.880 How many times has he had a ton of time 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:13.400 to throw. I mean there have been times he hasn't 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:16.680 been at but where he was really comfortable back there, 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:19.960 stepping into the throw, not worried about getting a hit 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:22.320 at the end of the play. Not only time, but 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:25.840 like you said, space and vision. If the defensive tackle 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:29.440 is crushing the middle of the pocket every time, you 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:33.400 don't have time to forget trying to find open receivers. 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:34.920 You don't have time to get out of the way. 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:39.640 I mean, you know, at times, it's just it's just 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:42.840 tough to watch. You know, he's he did a piro 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:45.440 Wett out of the pocket, you know, to try to 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:47.640 extend and create a play, and it worked out. All 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:50.680 they nullified it by te Higgins stepping out of bounds 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:52.560 and being the first guy to touch the ball when 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:54.280 he stepped back in. But then he's piro wetting in 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:57.120 the pocket. When you have a quarterback that has to 0:15:57.120 --> 0:16:00.280 turn and spend I mean, if he gets hit when 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:03.040 he's got a right leg planted in the ground, pirouetting 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:05.200 or whatever, and he gets hit in the lower leg, 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:09.760 it's acl you know, it's like shredding ligaments. I mean, 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:11.560 that stuff scares the crap out of me. I mean, 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:14.840 they're more he's more vulnerable there in that pocket trying 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:16.680 to do some of the things he's doing to avoid 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:20.240 contact than he is outside in space, and it's starting 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:23.160 to really be scary. You don't want guys at your feet. 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:25.760 You don't want guys. I mean, I'm if I'm a quarterback. 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:28.440 The way this pocket is collapsing in the middle. When 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:30.440 you throw the football and you follow through, you don't 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:32.120 want to hit a shoulder, padd a helmet and break 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:34.640 your finger, break your hand. We don't ask Kenny Anderson 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:37.640 one year by that happening. You're throwing a football and 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:40.360 he follows through in a preseason game and he clips 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:43.760 his index finger, you know, on a helmet and is 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:45.880 done for you know, the first six weeks of the 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:48.960 season whatever, and we're done. You don't want to see 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:52.640 that happen, you know, because somebody just gives up too 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:58.000 much penetration in the pocket. I mean, that's the first step. 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:01.480 The first step is solidifying the interior of the pocket. 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:04.320 You know. Look, I'm not saying that it's perfect. Jonah 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:07.280 Williams got beaten early. He got beaten badly, quickly, and left. 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:09.080 But he was fine the rest of the game. And 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:10.760 that's what you want to see. You want to see 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:13.480 a guy compartmentalized. Okay, what did I do wrong? Yep, 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:16.800 I leaned my head. I ducked my head. I leaned forward. 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:21.600 Trouble didn't do it again rest of the game. Man, inside, 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:24.640 it's like, okay, let's pull this guy. Try this guy. 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:28.280 And as a coach, it's got to be, you know, 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:31.480 disturbing to say the least. I mean, you're trying to 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:33.280 find an answer. You're scrambling to find an answer, and 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:35.680 there's no answer at this point to be found. That's 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:38.640 why I think, Man, I have a feeling, that's why 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:42.359 Redman's back. Redman's on the practice squad. Redman could be, 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:46.879 you know, elevated quickly, quickly. Let's run down some of 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:50.240 the blown opportunities in this game. Eagles first possession, the 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:52.760 Bengals come up with an interception Logan Wilson off the 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:55.520 tip ball by DJ Reader. Bengals start at their own 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:59.760 forty four three and out, get nothing to the second quarter, 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:02.560 like zerk Son with a nice punt return fifteen yard 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:04.479 penalty at the end of the return. They start at 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:07.440 the Philly thirty eight, don't even pick up a first down, 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:11.560 settle for a forty eight yard field goal. Then once 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:15.520 they started moving the ball in the second half, first 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:17.960 down and ten at the thirteen yard line, have to 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:20.840 kick a field goal. First down and goal at the 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:24.520 four yard line, five yard penalty from there, wind up 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:26.919 kicking a field goal. And that's the game. I mean, 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:29.600 when you have that many opportunities, even either close to 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:33.119 midfield or first in goal or first and ten inside 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:35.560 the red zone, you can't come away with three or 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:39.080 nothing and win, no question about it. Ball game. You know, 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:43.760 case closed. And when the Eagles at the end of 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:46.040 the first half had an opportunity in drove and getting 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:48.960 the red zone touchdown at the end of the football game, 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:50.760 when they drove getting the red zone, had to have 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:55.640 a touchdown. The Bengals lost this game in the red zone. 0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:58.080 I know it's a tie, but they should have won 0:18:58.080 --> 0:19:00.520 the football game. They didn't get a win, get a loss. 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:02.679 They did not get the win though because of the 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:06.359 red zone. The red zone failures negated the turnover. And 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:09.040 you know, to me, this turnover stuff is starting to 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:12.600 get old because the Cincinnati Bengals with this turnover ratio stuff. 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:16.040 It's it's it's it's almost mind boggling, Dan. I mean, 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:21.000 their their their numbers. Uh. In the red zone situation, 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:24.280 it's crazy. They're like, oh and eight when it's when 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:26.520 it's negative. I do know that. I think they're one 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:29.720 in twelve. Now for the turnover margins when turnover margin 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:32.600 when it's plus, they're one in twelve when it's plus. 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:35.160 So they keep saying, when the turnover ratio and win 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:38.960 the game, what the hell one in twelve? I mean, 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:41.120 come on, man, you know when they won one game 0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:43.240 when it was even and oh and eight when it's 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:47.480 when it's minus turnovers, it's almost like it's inconsequential to 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:51.080 the outcome of the football game. Now, league wide it's 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:56.520 very consequential, but to this football team, it hasn't been whatsoever. Now, 0:19:56.680 --> 0:19:58.320 now you had to tie to that mix, you win 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:02.760 the turnover battle, You're won eleven and one who raise 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:08.240 the flag? All right? Realistically, tying is better than losing. 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:10.199 It doesn't feel like it right now, but it is 0:20:10.240 --> 0:20:12.919 better than taking a loss. And for that reason, I 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:16.240 will at least give the defense credit for the very 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:19.320 end of the game, because they've got to be demoralized. 0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:21.879 At that point, Joe Burrow just got sacked deep in 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:24.600 his own territory. Philly gets the ball back at their 0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:27.440 own forty four, with one twenty six to go and 0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:29.800 with a chance to move within the field goal range 0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:32.040 of one of the strongest leg kickers in the NFL. 0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:35.600 They get the stop. They force a five yard penalty. 0:20:35.640 --> 0:20:37.760 When Philly lined up to try a fifty nine yard 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:41.840 field goal and then sixty four yards away, they elected 0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:48.920 to punt. Yep said, I'll kiss the sister. Get those 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:51.439 lips ready, put on some lip bomb. I want that 0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:54.200 kiss to be right. But I mean, you know, it's 0:20:54.280 --> 0:20:58.000 it's like, you know, and Dan, I've experienced this as 0:20:58.000 --> 0:21:00.959 a player. I remember going on to start a season 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:04.119 and we're, you know, just close in some games we 0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:06.920 can't finish, just can't finish. We start O and eight 0:21:07.440 --> 0:21:10.560 and we're getting killed, getting killed by media friends, I mean, 0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:12.880 my neighbors. I'm driving the neighborhood with my lights out. 0:21:13.200 --> 0:21:14.920 Didn't want to see neighbors at night, you know. And 0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:17.600 I didn't go to the grocery store, didn't go anywhere. 0:21:18.400 --> 0:21:20.520 So I know what it's like, and I hate to 0:21:20.520 --> 0:21:22.760 be a guy that's like, you know, negative about it. 0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:25.119 Because I've experienced it, I know how bad it is, 0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:27.560 and I feel badly, but you know it's your job 0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:29.840