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Speaker 1: Hi again, everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast, the What Doesn't Kill You Makes

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Speaker 1: You Stronger edition, as we look back at the latest

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Speaker 1: gut punch for Bengals players, coaches, and fans, a twenty

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Speaker 1: three all overtime tie in Philadelphia. Coming up, you'll hear

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Speaker 1: radio replays, postgame comments from players and coaches, and in

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Speaker 1: depth analysis from Dave Lapham, and the fun Facts segment

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Speaker 1: returns this week is You'll get to know the person

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Speaker 1: under the pads as I visit with rookie called Kareem.

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Speaker 1: It's the greatest thing since Memorable Villains. I've been listening

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Speaker 1: to the Talking Sopranos podcast lately. In it, actors Michael

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Speaker 1: Imperioli and Steve Shirippa who played Christopher Moltisanti and Bobby

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Speaker 1: Bacala on the Sopranos TV series are going back and

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Speaker 1: doing a deep dive into every episode they've just finished

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Speaker 1: season two. The podcast comes out once a week, so

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Speaker 1: I listen to it and then go back and rewatch

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Speaker 1: the episode in any case. The big villain in season

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Speaker 1: two is Ritchie Aprile, who is on my short list

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Speaker 1: of greatest villains in TV history, along with Gus Fring

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Speaker 1: from Breaking Bad and Ramsey Bolton from Game of Thrones.

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Speaker 1: Actually about half of the cast of Game of Thrones.

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Speaker 1: My least favorite villain of all time is Ben Roethlisberger.

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Speaker 1: Just kidding. Now, let's get to the game. We're going

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Speaker 1: to do the radio replace a little bit differently this

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Speaker 1: week and break them down into three categories, the good,

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Speaker 1: the bad, and the ugly. The good was the Bengals

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Speaker 1: passing game as Joe Burrow through for three hundred twelve yards,

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Speaker 1: including a pair of touchdowns to a fellow rookie. Tightly

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Speaker 1: bunched formation for the Bengals, Burrow fakes a hand off

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Speaker 1: to Mixon, throws into the end zone, touchdown Tea Higgins

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Speaker 1: in the back of the end zone, beautifully floated by

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, and the Bengals take the lead with one

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Speaker 1: twenty nine left in the half, first and goal from

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Speaker 1: the four. Burrow is under center, takes the snap, fakes

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Speaker 1: to Mixon looking to throw, throws it into the end zone,

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Speaker 1: touchdown Tea Higgins his second touchdown catch of the afternoon,

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Speaker 1: and the Bengals have a chance to regain the lead.

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Speaker 1: That second touchdown pass put the Bengals in front by

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Speaker 1: one point in the third quarter, but on the drive

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Speaker 1: after that, following an interception at the Philadelphia forty four

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Speaker 1: One drive later, they had first and goal at the

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Speaker 1: either of those red zone opportunities into a touchdown and

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Speaker 1: the Bengals almost certainly win the game. Here's Tyler Boyd

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Speaker 1: who had ten catches for one hundred twenty five yards.

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Speaker 1: That's not how you're gonna win game, you know, Just

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Speaker 1: keep driving and driving and getting there, like actually getting

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Speaker 1: there five yards away, eight years away, ten yards away.

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Speaker 1: Three point ain't gonna win in this league. Every week

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Speaker 1: is going to be tough. But whoever found a way

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Speaker 1: and that leads us to the bad. For the most part,

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Speaker 1: the Bengals defense played well. Philadelphia had thirteen possessions and

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Speaker 1: final seconds of each half. When the Bengals had the

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Speaker 1: the Bengals coverage there? Wentz ready for a shotgun. Snappy

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Speaker 1: The touchdown with twenty one seconds left in regulation to

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Speaker 1: Here are Zach Taylor and Joe Burrow. I've never tied

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Speaker 1: There's just no no game changing moment there that took

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Speaker 1: no moral victories around here. This is a loss to me.

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Speaker 1: I don't really know. We didn't win, and that leads

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Speaker 1: to the ugly Burrow waiting for a shotgun snap, has

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Speaker 1: the half, a fake a handoff to Mixing, Burrow pump

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Speaker 1: Jalen Mills was closing in second and goal from the

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Speaker 1: Bengals at their own fourteen. Burrow under pressure sacked by

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Speaker 1: Eight sacks and ten additional hits for a total of

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Speaker 1: eighteen QB hits in Joe Burrow's third NFL game. One

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Speaker 1: particularly vicious hit by Malik Jackson knocked Burrow out of

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Speaker 1: the game for one play. The wind knocked out on

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Speaker 1: He was good after that. But the same can't be

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Speaker 1: can't blocking back for a second. And so that that

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Speaker 1: continue to prove and give ourself a better chance. The

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Speaker 1: Bengals made a change up front during the game, as

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Speaker 1: Fred Johnson, starting his second straight at right guard, got

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Speaker 1: pulled for Billy Price. Lap asked Zach Taylor about it

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Speaker 1: after the game, what do you do at the right guard? Position.

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Speaker 1: Fred struggled. You put Billy in there, Billy struggled. I

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Speaker 1: mean that's the real problem, Marea. Where do you go

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Speaker 1: that's something to keep evaluating. They had better find an

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Speaker 1: pace for seventy four point six sacks. The record for

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Speaker 1: Houston's then rookie and number one overall pick, David Carr.

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Speaker 1: Here's Tyler Boyd. Do you just to see him take

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Speaker 1: those hits. It's for him to go down and for

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Speaker 1: want to want to fight whoever done anything to him,

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Speaker 1: Joe Mixon finished with forty nine yards on seventeen carries.

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Speaker 1: And so they don't make it easier for you to

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Speaker 1: run the ball. And so again that that's not what

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Speaker 1: tied an NFL record they wanted no part of. They

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Speaker 1: have failed to win their last fifteen games, decided by

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Speaker 1: the Chicago Cardinals from nineteen thirty eight to nineteen forty one.

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Speaker 1: Time for some postgame analysis with my broadcast partner Dave Lapham. Well,

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Speaker 1: that was different at twenty three all overtime tie in Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: a game it felt like like the Bengals had a

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Speaker 1: million opportunities to win, and as a result, it's a

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Speaker 1: tie that feels like a loss, no question. I think

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Speaker 1: both teams feel that way. I don't think both teams

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Speaker 1: were crisp binding stretch of the imagination and their execution.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that they didn't give effort. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think both teams, you know, they weren't loafing. They weren't.

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Speaker 1: maybe there's a little bit of almost trying too hard,

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Speaker 1: blows up the football field like he's a free runner,

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Speaker 1: and the quarterbacks has no opportunity. I mean again, football

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Speaker 1: or no more than one mess up. I mean, if ten,

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Speaker 1: sometimes you can get by, but man, if you have

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Speaker 1: multiple mess ups on the same play, you're in trouble.

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is sacked eight times. He was hit an

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Speaker 1: additional ten eighteen hits on your quarterback. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: that's what postgame press conference guys was saying. Eighteen was

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Speaker 1: the pressure was not the sacks and hits, not just pressures, hits,

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Speaker 1: there was nothing that was deterring them. Start out with

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Speaker 1: Alex Redmon on the practice squad. Dan, I would put

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to be hypocritical. I don't

424
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Speaker 1: want to be two faced, but you know, I have

425
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Speaker 1: to do a job, and you have to give reasons

426
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Speaker 1: why things are turning out the way they're turning out.

427
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Speaker 1: But man, my heart bleeds for the guys, it really does.

428
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 1: It sucks big time. Capital letters sucks. You know. The

429
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Speaker 1: only you don't have any friends. All you got your family,

430
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 1: and sometimes, you know, you come home and try to

431
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 1: kiss your wife and it was easier kissing the opponent

432
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 1: when you tie them an indictment of land lap them

433
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Speaker 1: many years after the fact. No, No, she was great.

434
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Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. She was a Lynn was Lynn might

435
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: have been the best, the best athlete wife that ever

436
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Speaker 1: has been created. Remove the mic. Yeah she is, no question.

437
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,640
Speaker 1: But honestly, I remember my kids. I remember my son

438
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 1: coming home and kids at school are saying, you know,

439
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 1: the Bengals suck. Your dad sucks, you know, And I'm

440
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,640
Speaker 1: like Dave don't fight those guys, you know, let it go,

441
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: you know, and he's all concerned, he's all shaken up

442
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: about that. Stuff sucks when it starts affecting your family

443
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 1: and everything. I've been there, I know exactly what it's like.

444
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: I feel terrible for guys. I mean, right now, they're

445
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 1: three twenty three and one in their last twenty seven games.

446
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: That does not make it an easy life to live

447
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 1: off the football field. You got nobody to blame but

448
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,919
Speaker 1: yourself as a team, and the only thing you can

449
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: do is try to make more plays and do something

450
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Speaker 1: about it. But I'm telling you, it sucks. I think

451
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Speaker 1: that's a good way to end it. We'll look forward

452
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Speaker 1: to Jacksonville in a few days. I hear that if

453
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Speaker 1: they play just a little bit better, take advantage of

454
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Speaker 1: a couple of the opportunities that they didn't take advantage

455
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Speaker 1: of today. You know, Jacksonville's no world beater, but it

456
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 1: is disappointing. Dan. The Philadelphia goes, what did they have left?

457
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 1: What did they have? I was waiting for Vince Papali

458
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: to come off the sideline with a band aid over's nose,

459
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: you know, some tape and Vince Papali come running down there,

460
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Speaker 1: cover some kicks and went, I mean they were down

461
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Speaker 1: to nothing. They were down to nothing. Unbelievable. As Lap mentioned,

462
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Speaker 1: a home game against Jacksonville is coming up next. The

463
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Speaker 1: Jaguars are one and two and coming off an eighteen

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Speaker 1: point lost to Miami last Thursday. Let's end on a

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Speaker 1: positive note with this week's fun Facts segment as we

466
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Speaker 1: get to know the person under the pads from a

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Speaker 1: member of this year's rookie class. Time for some fun facts.

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Speaker 1: The Bengals defensive end College Kareem College. You are a

469
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Speaker 1: coach's kid, and said, Juan said, you and your dad

470
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 1: started your football journey together when you were six years old.

471
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Speaker 1: How did that journey begin? My dad, he was he

472
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: was just actually just a parent at first, just I

473
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Speaker 1: mean obviously just a parent, more so just a parent watching.

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Speaker 1: And then I think something happened with our defensive coordinator,

475
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Speaker 1: and um, they were like, you know, as any parent

476
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Speaker 1: willing to step up to, you know, help coach. And

477
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Speaker 1: you know he was the first one and even my coach.

478
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Speaker 1: Ever since. Were you focused on football or did you

479
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: try a wide variety of sports when you were growing up?

480
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: I definitely focused heavily on football, played basketball up until

481
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Speaker 1: I was a sophomore in high school. I tried wrestling

482
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: for a season in middle school and didn't go that well.

483
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 1: I tried baseball that definitely did not go well. I

484
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: went to I went to one practice and the coach

485
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Speaker 1: told me I was too uncordinated. So I never I

486
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: never came back. And then I tried swimming for I

487
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: did swimming for a season. I'm okay. The biggest thing

488
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: with that was that I was always going from swimming

489
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 1: practice football practice, and so I was always tired of

490
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: that football. So I kind of gave up one swimming.

491
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Speaker 1: And then last thing I did I threw shot putting

492
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Speaker 1: discus in high school. We're doing fun facts with college Kareem.

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Speaker 1: In addition to being an excellent athlete, you have excelled

494
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: in school. Were you forced too or were you self

495
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 1: motivated a little bit of both, but mainly the latter part.

496
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Speaker 1: I mean, my parents definitely, you know, just kept high

497
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Speaker 1: standard as far as academics, but I mean the kind

498
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Speaker 1: of just set that standard, and then you know, I

499
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Speaker 1: kind of just embodied that after after that fact that

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Speaker 1: ody high school unacceptable for me to get below my

501
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: A and then I got the high school money. You

502
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Speaker 1: know what, It's okay, Like the world's not gonna end,

503
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Speaker 1: like I think, I graduated like a three eight five,

504
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 1: so I was still I was still okay. I was

505
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 1: still good. So you almost went to Alabama and ultimately

506
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: chose Notre Dame. Why, I mean, just looking at it,

507
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Speaker 1: I mean, Bama is like I think, thirteen hours away

508
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Speaker 1: from home, and you know, I come up from a

509
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Speaker 1: pretty nice size family, so it would kind of be

510
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: a little expensive for them to come and see me,

511
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: you know, play or just you know, even playing a visit,

512
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: just to come down, like you know, if they you know,

513
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 1: messed me and they want to come see me. But

514
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Notre Dame is only three hours away. For

515
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: one A great academic is great football, And it was

516
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: you know, far enough from home where I had my

517
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: own independence, but close enough. You know, I fundy and

518
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Speaker 1: my family and they'll be there for me. We're chatting

519
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Speaker 1: with Colin Kareem. You skipped the end of your senior

520
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 1: year of high school and enrolled early in Notre Dame.

521
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Speaker 1: Are you happy you did that? Yeah? I mean I

522
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 1: was just having a conversation something about that the other day.

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00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I finished my so I played

524
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: my senior season, but you know, following that, that last semester. Um. Yeah,

525
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: so I left following that semester. I mean I felt

526
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: like I didn't have really anything left to you know,

527
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: give high school. I was already done with all my

528
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: academic classes. So I would kind of not really just

529
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: taking up space, but I feel like I would kind

530
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: of be just you know, wasting my time when I

531
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 1: could be doing something, you know, more productive Towards my career.

532
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 1: There are some great game day traditions and Notre Dame.

533
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: What was your favorite? I probasedly the walk Honestly, when

534
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,719
Speaker 1: I was when I was a freshman, I'm like, you know,

535
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: I'm always gonna have these, so not really you know,

536
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: two pressed about it. But my senior year, I really,

537
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 1: you know, took the time to take everything and you know,

538
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: the smells, the sounds, you know, everyone's faces. So I

539
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: mean that was that was pretty big for me. Do

540
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Speaker 1: you have a miniature play like a champion sign somewhere? No,

541
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 1: but I need to get one. So early November your

542
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 1: senior year, you tore the labor I'm in your shoulder. Yeah,

543
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: you kept playing, you played the final four games of

544
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Speaker 1: the season. With that, how bad was the pain and

545
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: why did you keep playing? Pain was definitely up there,

546
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: like skilled on one to ten at its worst during

547
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: the games um like Boston College, it was really bad.

548
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: It's like an eight point five nine almost definitely felt

549
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: like about to fall off. But you know, for one,

550
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: I didn't no, I didn't know I threw my labor

551
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: at first, so I didn't know until after Stanford. So

552
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: after so probably about three weeks after I toured, that's

553
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: when I found out. And then you know, I had

554
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: one game left and I was like, you know, I've

555
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: come this far, and I played on it, you know,

556
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: for you know, result for these past the weeks, and

557
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: I didn't know. After talking you know with the doctors

558
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: and you know, the trainer, They're like, theres, you can't

559
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: make it worse. I'm like, okay, I might as well play,

560
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: Like this is my last college game. I get to

561
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: go out, you know with my guys. And so I

562
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: still felt like, you know, I had something left in

563
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: the tank, and I don't think I could you know,

564
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: look myself in the mirror and at the end of

565
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: the day knowing, you know, I had something left and

566
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: didn't give it to my team. We're chatting with college Kareem.

567
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Speaker 1: You majored in business, minored into art combined the two,

568
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: and you have an art dealer. Could you see yourself

569
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: buying and selling arts some day? Yeah, definitely, definitely, definitely

570
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: can see that. I mean, I want to try to

571
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: start that, you know, sometimes soon, probably within like the

572
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: next you know, two years on. I started trying to

573
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: get more into that, and then you know, I start

574
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: getting you know, the front of my career. I start

575
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: I want to start, you know, doing more with that,

576
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: and then you know what, I'm done, do that full time.

577
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: Are there any artists in particular that you would like

578
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: to purchase a piece of their work? Keep Harry Definitely, definitely,

579
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: He's one of my favorites. Um to second contract, Yeah definitely. Yeah,

580
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: well yeah, definitely definitely I want to keep harrying piece.

581
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: As part of your senior art project of Notre Dame,

582
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: you did a huge self portrait in a pop art style,

583
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: four feet by five feet. I've seen a picture of it.

584
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: It's pretty spectacular. You are in the middle kind of

585
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: an action shot from your Notre Dame playing day, surrounded

586
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: by bright pop culture pictures and then images around it.

587
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: How did you feel that turned out. I was happy

588
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: with it. I mean it's not really for anyone else

589
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: but me, so, I mean that's not pretty selfish, but

590
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: I mean I made it a kind of commemorate my

591
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: experience at Notre Dame and you know who makes like

592
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Speaker 1: what makes me so? Like in the background on one side,

593
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: it's a scarpet of my mom, you know, has had

594
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: I think before we were like before us kids were

595
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: even born. Then a pattern of the time my dad game.

596
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: He's on the left as you're looking at yeah, on

597
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: the left, and then a bunch of different you know,

598
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: characters and you know, a little things that you know,

599
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: mean a lot to me. Like I said, I thought

600
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: it was pretty spectacular. But I do have one issue

601
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: with it. What's up with the Baltimore Ravens logo? Okay,

602
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: so it's not a Baltimore's Ravens logo? Okay, So my

603
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: literally team was the south Field Ravens, so that was

604
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: that's what it was for. Yeah, I feel much better

605
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: about it now. Yeah, we're chatting with Colin Kareem. I

606
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: know the game on game day, you covered your face

607
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: and eye black similar to Hall of Famer John Randall.

608
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Speaker 1: Why and do you plan to continue doing that in

609
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: the NFL? Yeah, definitely continue. I don't want to continue

610
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: doing that NFL. But I feel like that's just like

611
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: you know, my different person out. Like I put the

612
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,959
Speaker 1: you know, base paint on it, it's just you know,

613
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: I'm turning to a you know, a different beast, and

614
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: so like like at that point, like once I put

615
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Speaker 1: it on, I've already I usually already have my pads on,

616
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: already taped up. So that's like, you know, my final

617
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: stuff in my preparation before you know it's tigned to play.

618
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: So like that's kind of like the the final thing

619
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: before you know, I'm like ready to go. So that

620
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: really gives me my game mode. Is it a pain

621
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: in the neck to put on it off on? No? Yes, yes,

622
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: it takes. It takes a while. I mean because I

623
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: watched my face my face pretty thoroughly, and then like

624
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: the next day I'll still have like five blacks on

625
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: one of that. I thought, you know, I cleaned, but

626
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: it wasn't describe your draft. That experience. It was a

627
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: good experience. I mean I thought I would go somewhere,

628
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,719
Speaker 1: you know, Day two but you know, I wasn't you know,

629
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: two upsets. I knew you know, either way, you know,

630
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: whether you know I got drafted or I was a

631
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: free agent, I was going to make an impact wherever

632
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: I went, so I wasn't too stressed about it. You're

633
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: from the Detroit area. Who is your favorite athlete growing up?

634
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: Ben Wallace? Ben Wallace, Oh, my guy. I love watching

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Speaker 1: him play pistons, do the dirty work guy. Yeah, definitely,

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Speaker 1: And honestly, when I played basketball, I try to play

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Speaker 1: of your NFL career, what are some of the things

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Speaker 1: The biggest thing I'm enjoying is just, you know, learning

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Speaker 1: older guys and the like I said, the vet them

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Speaker 1: pushing me just to be better because you're at a

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Speaker 1: level excuse me, where everyone's the best, and so it

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Speaker 1: only forced your game to excel. And that's probably the

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Speaker 1: most fun thing about this whole experience. He wrote a

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Speaker 1: book in third grade. Yeah, it made an interesting prediction.

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Speaker 1: What did you predict? At that age, I predicted that

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Speaker 1: I would be in the NFL at that time, well,

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Speaker 1: at this time and the Super Bowl sixty I was

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Speaker 1: gonna win MVP. I don't know. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: I figured out the timing and how it lined up,

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Speaker 1: but it's actually obtainable. It's kind of cool. So super

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Speaker 1: Bowl sixty would be February of twenty twenty three. That

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Speaker 1: would be your third NFL season. So third grade, you

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Speaker 1: did some excellent math. Yeah, and this is legitimately possible. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: definitely is definitely. I want to definitely want to try

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Speaker 1: to make it happen. All right, you are off the

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Speaker 1: hot seat. I appreciate you doing this. Yeah, no problem.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to college Kareem. And here's a quick reminder to

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Speaker 1: join Lap and Lance McAlister for Bengals Line Monday night

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Speaker 1: Wednesday night, I joined Lap for the Bengals Game Plan Show.

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