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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast Always triple sources, got it?

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis, and I'm joined in a

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Speaker 1: room filled with some heroes. Chris westling to my left

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Speaker 1: just like the character from the Paranoid Android video by Radiohead,

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Speaker 1: and to my right he's wearing a fancy shirt. Greg

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Speaker 1: grows it all. What's up boys? Hey dude, I only

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Speaker 1: just slipped on a hat because it's cool in this studio.

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Speaker 1: That's the only reason I'm dressed like this. Big data

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Speaker 1: for you. Moving Day, Moving Day, we have moving out

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Speaker 1: of the one bedroom cancer apartment finally, And is there

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Speaker 1: a sadder description for any living place than one bedroom

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Speaker 1: cancer apartment? Lakitia, I feel very differently about this place.

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Speaker 1: You know, she moved out here as a strong independent woman,

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Speaker 1: found her own place and had many good times there.

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Speaker 1: I have a different experience with that one bedroom apartment,

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Speaker 1: and I am happy to be out of it. If

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Speaker 1: we if we really were thinking ahead, we could have

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Speaker 1: done a whole like moving day theme to show like

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Speaker 1: which players are gonna be having moving days this year.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what that means, but who's going to

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Speaker 1: have a successful move, and who's gonna struggle, who's getting

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Speaker 1: kicked that, who's too late, who's upgrading from their studio

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Speaker 1: apartment to a nice bedroom with a big backyard where

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Speaker 1: Wesseleyn's future kids will run around. I have realized, you know,

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Speaker 1: I've moved almost every year for my whole adult life,

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Speaker 1: I'm too old for this. I'm hiring people to do

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Speaker 1: I can't do it anymore. Yeah. I have not moved

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Speaker 1: in almost over four years now, and it's glorious. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's great to be settled. I need to be settled,

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Speaker 1: all right. What what is it I'm looking for and

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Speaker 1: why can't I find it? Well, that's life, my friend,

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Speaker 1: that is life. Great question, a big question. Today's episode

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Speaker 1: of the Around the NFL podcast UH comes at a

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Speaker 1: time that mandatory mini camps are wrapping up. And for

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Speaker 1: is it for every team over yesterday? Oh? Because everybody

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Speaker 1: does things like a great camp. Guys, let's go bowling.

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Speaker 1: It's like, come on, coaches, let's come down with that

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Speaker 1: a little bit. That's a trope, by the way, because

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Speaker 1: I mean all offseason practices are over until training camp.

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Speaker 1: It's summer earlier. This year, it does seem there's been

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Speaker 1: some ji. Yeah, the Rams were always like the last team.

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Speaker 1: Remember Fisher would always wait until the end. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: would just try to have the least amount of time

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Speaker 1: off possible. UM. So anyway, with many camps over it,

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Speaker 1: with players going UM into their summer breaks, Uh, we'll

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Speaker 1: do two things. We're going to UM and we've been

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Speaker 1: touching on these in the news as as the last

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Speaker 1: couple of months have played out. But now that the

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Speaker 1: off season program are over, phase three, I believe greg

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Speaker 1: is complete. Um, let's do a trope overview for two

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Speaker 1: thousand and eighteen. Also, Phase four is just like party,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I party, hardy man. And with Father's

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Speaker 1: a little edition of current and Future Fathers. No best,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to use my imagination, man, Lakisha is

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Speaker 1: gonna turn up the heat on you. Let's let's timeline

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Speaker 1: west for a second here real quick, before we get

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Speaker 1: into the news. Engaged June two thousand eighteen. Married, let's

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Speaker 1: say June two thousand nineteen, right, around there right, there

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Speaker 1: You use that time up, my friend, next year exactly,

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Speaker 1: and Lakisha is ready to go. We piece has been

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Speaker 1: think we'll be ready. You had a lot of that,

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Speaker 1: you're saying, you're be smirching Serena Williams's wedding. Essentially, listen

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Speaker 1: that couple. Am I about that couple? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get airtime here. Greg's true nature

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Speaker 1: came out strong on the wheel of Destiny. Do you

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Speaker 1: want anything, We'll give you the floor right now. Anything

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Speaker 1: I think my strategy work just fine. Based on my tweets,

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Speaker 1: I'm definitely the people's champion, and based on my mom

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Speaker 1: laughter yesterday, I was trying, I was writing an article.

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Speaker 1: So it was a popular, popular seg I didn't realize

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Speaker 1: much fun in real time. I've never seen commented on

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Speaker 1: Week fifteen of the two thousand fifteen season in overtime, Uh,

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Speaker 1: Matt Patricia is in danger of losing his players? Why

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Speaker 1: think it. I still don't think it has. If anything,

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Speaker 1: I'm a little surprised they put those numbers on the

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Speaker 1: diamond on the ring. I mean, it is a it's

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Speaker 1: a memorable play. It's the play everyone. I guess it's

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Speaker 1: gonna stick from the Super Bowl. But it was just

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Speaker 1: to get a halftime lead that they gave. Oh, don't

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Speaker 1: do the Patriot fan. No, no, no, I'm not. I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying, Brandon, it was an an enormous play. All

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Speaker 1: I'm saying is like Brandon Graham's play was the biggest

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Speaker 1: play of the game. And you can't say anything like

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Speaker 1: that about the helmet catch. Mark got a lot right,

434
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Speaker 1: and I would be amazing happy to buy him sandwiches

435
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Speaker 1: for coming close to being right. But if you're asking

436
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Speaker 1: which one is the bigger play, it's the helmet catch.

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Speaker 1: So are we all in lockstep here? I'll buy Mark sandwich.

438
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Speaker 1: Is like, I'm proud of him for coming up with this.

439
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 1: He predicted, he predicted a play that's on their Super

440
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Speaker 1: Bowler game. The game needs to have a code, and

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Speaker 1: it's either it's not, Like, here's a participation sandwich. Did

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Speaker 1: he get it right? Or did again? Uh so? No?

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Speaker 1: Mark still owes the sandwiches on that. Okay, that's what's

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Speaker 1: happening in the participation sandwich. All right, let's let's get

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Speaker 1: into it. On uh NFL dot com you could find

446
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Speaker 1: a column from the old zeuser that was workshopped in

447
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Speaker 1: part on this very podcast about famous tropes of off season.

448
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Speaker 1: Of the off season, they pop up every year and

449
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Speaker 1: u and without fail they pop up, and here they

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Speaker 1: are again. Who's talking back there? We can hear you?

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Speaker 1: What a booming voice? How can you hear? Your job, Lindsay,

452
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Speaker 1: is to not let the intern talk. But but we

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Speaker 1: don't even have the mics on, which is weird that

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Speaker 1: you could hear them? Now we know, now you know

455
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Speaker 1: he's got a future in probably um So, here are

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Speaker 1: some um shop worn tropes, and I'm gonna throw out

457
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Speaker 1: some actual storylines connected to them, some real stories, and

458
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Speaker 1: we could maybe decide whether or not to put any

459
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Speaker 1: stock in them or did just write it off as

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Speaker 1: it is what it is. That's a part of the

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Speaker 1: UH machine this time of year. Um, and we'll start

462
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Speaker 1: with aging veteran X has never felt better physically or mentally.

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Speaker 1: Recent examples Steelers quarterback Joe Hayden trading like I never

464
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Speaker 1: had before. Damarrius Thomas feels great, says hips are not

465
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Speaker 1: bothering him. We're buying into either of those guys reaching

466
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Speaker 1: former glories. Zero stock couldn't be less stock in either

467
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Speaker 1: of these, especially because the Marius Times I believe didn't

468
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Speaker 1: practice in a recent minicamp because he was bothered by

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Speaker 1: his hips that are not bothering. I think it was

470
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Speaker 1: maybe his feet, but either way he was, he was out.

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Speaker 1: He generally don't see like a declining veteran have three

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Speaker 1: or four declining seasons in in a row, then after

473
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Speaker 1: age thirty, have a season that's like his age seasons.

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Speaker 1: It's always possible, but I don't put in any stock

475
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Speaker 1: this time of year. You if if a player like this,

476
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Speaker 1: for instance, practices every snap in training camp and people

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Speaker 1: are saying like he's looking good and he hasn't missed

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Speaker 1: a single you know, practice in camp. Then Thending buy in,

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Speaker 1: what are we doing now? They're just running around in

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Speaker 1: shorts and stuff. And Thomas, yeah he missed. He missed

481
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Speaker 1: mini camp after tweaking his foot in practice. He's had

482
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Speaker 1: a lot of foot problems. Hip was okay, I guess,

483
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 1: but the foot is trouble. Draft bust X looks like

484
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Speaker 1: he's ready to turn the corner. Here's some recent examples.

485
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: Mike Williams finally healthy, looking to redeem himself. Todd Helly

486
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Speaker 1: advises Corey Coleman it's make or break ear for him, bangles,

487
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Speaker 1: John Ross eyes rebound, armed with advice. Anybody carries what

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Speaker 1: the advice was? Yeah, okay, Herbie Toby wrote the piece,

489
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Speaker 1: and the advice was just relaxed, be yourself. We can

490
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Speaker 1: tell when yourself you perform better. You just have to

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Speaker 1: stop thinking so much. That came from A. J. Green

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Speaker 1: and Brandon Lefel. John Ross is such a trope magnet

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Speaker 1: that we've all I don't know if you two it,

494
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Speaker 1: but at least every person who's writing for a t

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Speaker 1: N blog right now has written articles on John Ross's

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Speaker 1: bounce back season. He's working with t J. Houstmans Otto

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Speaker 1: on route running see the new Kevin White. I think

498
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Speaker 1: John very similar. I think John Ross it's not a trope.

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00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 1: I think he's about to have a breakout season. They

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Speaker 1: need it more than ever, especially with the Tyler Eiford comers.

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Speaker 1: Did we get Herbie's last name pronounced right? West? Is

502
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Speaker 1: the expertpop doing great work. I loved seeing Herbie's name

503
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: across the the scroll on NFL Network breaking some Saints news.

504
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 1: Herbie grinding. Heck of a nice guy, hard worker and

505
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Speaker 1: a former drill sergeant. So yeah, not to cross him. Yes,

506
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: we gotta have him on the podcast at some point. Yeah. Absolutely,

507
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: Um and that Coleman the maker break thing is definitely

508
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: that that's just trope. It's like third year, your first

509
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Speaker 1: round pick. We're gonna like read you the riot act

510
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 1: like because talking tough about Lakwan treadwell, it's like, now

511
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: that's gonna make him play better. Now if Mark was here,

512
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Speaker 1: he would have. But he always says about Corey Coleman,

513
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Speaker 1: this guy appears to be a knucklehead and the Browns

514
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Speaker 1: want to trade him. Yeah, and the what if you're

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Speaker 1: a player, And I brought up Kevin White, He's a

516
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Speaker 1: good example. But Lakwan Treadwell is probably another good example.

517
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Speaker 1: When you really want to start get getting worried, it's

518
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Speaker 1: when the reporters stop even writing these that's the problem.

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00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: White's kind of I think Kevin White's gotten to that

520
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Speaker 1: point this offseason has kind of given up on him.

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Speaker 1: He has um next up already touched on this one

522
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Speaker 1: player X ahead of schedule and a c L recovery.

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Speaker 1: We I just want to change the schedule, just tweak it.

524
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Speaker 1: Just get everyone. If you're doing well, you're on schedule,

525
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Speaker 1: no more, ahead of schedule, Calm down a little bit. Uh.

526
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: Tavon Austin will be a weapon in Team x's offense.

527
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: That's just a Tavon Austin the Pacific one. My comment

528
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Speaker 1: was that, yeah, this is the best analysis you wrote

529
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Speaker 1: in the whole just one word and then a period.

530
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Speaker 1: Nah uh. New quarterback wide receiver tandem enjoys insane foul

531
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: and Timberlake and timber Lake like chemistry. Mahomes to Watkins

532
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: is becoming a thing. Tannehill to Amundola is gonna be

533
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Speaker 1: a thing. That's a thing. By the way, with beat guys,

534
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Speaker 1: when they see something they like, Oh, Chad Hanson, he's

535
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Speaker 1: gonna be a thing in this Jeff, that's a that's

536
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: a thing. That is that is a thing. Also a

537
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: thing is the like newly added diminutive slot receiver is

538
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: blowing up nonpadded practices. Yea, that's a combination of of

539
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: things like Amundolah, this is his time to shine, yes,

540
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: of course. Also it's now I know that Jimmy Fallon

541
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Speaker 1: and Justin timber Lake have insane chemistry. Wait was avendola

542
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Speaker 1: ch I feel like seven eleven is a trope. Eric

543
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Speaker 1: Ebron said it about himself the other day. Oh he's

544
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Speaker 1: open like seven. Yeah, he says he's he said, Andrew

545
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Speaker 1: luck Is gonn find him because he's seven eleven. But

546
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Speaker 1: I'm just glad we didn't even mention the the story

547
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Speaker 1: that was said on Up to the Minute this week

548
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Speaker 1: where Jarvis Landry I mentioned he wasn't surprised he hadn't

549
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: heard from Ryan Tannehill since he moved on to Cleveland

550
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: because they didn't they didn't have chemistry, they didn't have

551
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: a good relationship. Yeah, I couldn't be care I couldn't

552
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: care less about um what that man has to say,

553
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry. But it is interesting that the I just

554
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: with he seems to talk a lot. I don't really care.

555
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: What like the twenty three best receiver in the NFL, Jarvis,

556
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Speaker 1: If you want to just use Tannehill or any former

557
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: Dolphins players coaches as pinata's all season, I'm going to

558
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: enjoy that content from just fun. From the whispers that

559
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: I've heard, and I'm no insider, I don't. I don't

560
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: think that's one side. And I think the Dolphins are

561
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: gonna have some fun at Jarvis Landry's expense, treating him

562
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: like a pinata too. That's excited, get excited? Uh? What else?

563
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: Maybe one more we talked about We already talked about

564
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Speaker 1: the game aim is slowed down to me, shuck the

565
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: world for me? Uh, second year players saying the game

566
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: has slowed down for me? Um Wes, you wrote a

567
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: piece of Nathan Peterman got a little bit down. He

568
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: needs it established franchise quarterback will be something totally different. Now.

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Speaker 1: Is this a new trope because I like it? Yeah?

570
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Speaker 1: Well that connects yeah with your Cam Newton capable of

571
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: high sixties completion rate from North North Turner comments, I

572
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: feel like that does pop up this idea that a

573
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: coach comes and says this guy is going to be something.

574
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: Oh this is this is a great offseason trope that

575
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: I had forgotten about. I'm glad you put it in here,

576
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: and some the some greatest hits will close with it.

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00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: Some greatest hits that I did not see, which does

578
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: not mean that it didn't pop up, but keep an

579
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Speaker 1: eye out for them in August. Actually, extremely raw rookie

580
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: Y is ready to contribute immediately. Josh Allen. Quarterback X

581
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: reminds veteran player why of Brett Farve Mitch Robinski. Alright,

582
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: good player X. The offense has never been faster. Mm hmm,

583
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: player X, offense never is slower in the off season.

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00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: That's that's player X. I've never played with someone quite

585
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: like player why. J Gruden just said Alex Smith. I've

586
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: never been around anyone as smart as Alex Smith. That

587
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: falls under the count that injury prone player X added

588
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: muscle to frame an offseason. Christian McCaffrey actually think I

589
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: might have hit that one. Well, that goes both ways.

590
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: Sometimes you gotta slim down, slim down, take muscle off.

591
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: Andrew luck Is, you know the post, Yes, this offseason

592
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: that's true and Coach X were extremely impressed by camp

593
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: body y slash faded vet Z could have been Christian

594
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: Hackenburg in Oakland, but that got blown up pretty quickly. Well,

595
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: Gruden has been very impressed. That's too harsh description for

596
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: Jared Cook, but he's been very surprised and impressed at

597
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: Jared Cooks. Some of the stuff he said about Jared Cook.

598
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm thinking you were an analyst. How did you not

599
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: know that he's athletic and can move? Didn't you watch

600
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: all that tape? While we're on the Raiders, I have

601
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: another trope. Are you that Martavis Bryant could be suspended?

602
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: That seems like an annual, an annual occurrence, and in

603
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: this week, the Las Vegas Review Journal reported that the

604
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: Raiders feared imminent discipline for Briant, which is kind of

605
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: coming out, kind of coming out of nowhere, and and

606
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: it hasn't been totally clarified, but it seems like this

607
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: is possible where the Steelers aware when they traded him

608
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: to Oakland, well what would him to catch the Insiders

609
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: off guard too? And hasn't been confirmed, so we'll see.

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00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: Gruden explained when he made the trade that he has

611
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: a really good relationship with Tomlin, who coached under him.

612
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: So I'm assuming Tomlin did not know that, or else

613
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: he would have been upfront with him. He probably had

614
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: good things to say about Bryant. I'm guessing they were

615
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: honest with eight other He missed all of two thousands

616
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: sixteen with substance abuse. This is why I thought this

617
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: apparently would be substance abuse possible. So I thought the

618
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: Raiders were paid to you get one year of him.

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Speaker 1: And this is a man who did the Steelers wrong

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00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: and then had the temerity to complain about his role

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Speaker 1: once they led him back on the team. There's there's

622
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: something not connecting in his head. Hey, you're not getting

623
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: to merrity on the other football podcasts around no, very rarely.

624
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: It's the middle of June. They don't know, they don't

625
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 1: know what to merity is any time of year. They're

626
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: definitely not bringing it to you in June. Bunch of idiots, blockheads.

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Speaker 1: All right, So there you go. Check it out NFL

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Speaker 1: dot com, slash handsas uh the column and now listen.

629
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: It is Father's Day this weekend. What a day. And uh,

630
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Speaker 1: you know, Greg, you and I are extremely blessed you

631
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Speaker 1: have a boy and a girl. Yeah, so I think

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Speaker 1: I'm even extra blessed because it's nice to have one

633
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: of these nice you know, I got the two boys,

634
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: Jack and Harry, and it's a challenge er, but it's

635
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: the best thing in my life, you know. And I

636
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: think you'd say the same thing as I thought. Your

637
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: little children and West June is gonna be a big

638
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: month in your life for the next half decade apparently.

639
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 1: So with that in mind, it's time to give out

640
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: some fatherly advice. Bunts, your dad's doing their dad thing,

641
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: and uh, I've heard Father's Day compared. It's kind of

642
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 1: like the Hanukkah to Mother's day's Christmas, which I thought

643
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: it was a nice and I think that's all right

644
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,919
Speaker 1: by that. Not as big a deal, not not quite

645
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: as fun, but people just just still gonna recognize it absolutely. Hey,

646
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: shout out to the dad's Father's Day is way more fun.

647
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: For the record, Boy's that I mean every time, like

648
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: I do something with my dad for Father's Day, were

649
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: like a ballgame or you know, a little lake or something,

650
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: and Mother's Day it's just kind of like, oh, let's

651
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: make bomb breakfast in bed and there are some flowers. Counterpoint,

652
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: have we as society and again dealing with the gender

653
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: role issues that I feel like we're grappling with now

654
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: in modern society. Is the reason why Father's Day is

655
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: more fun is that no one ever really thought to

656
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: do actually all fun stuff with mom. They just assumed,

657
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: here's a flower and you know, some eggs and sausage.

658
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: All right, now, get back to work. Mom. Like that

659
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: type of vibe. Where's Dad, It's like it sounds like

660
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: a harsh house. It's like, Dad, Hey, let's let's go.

661
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: Let's go to the US open Dad, I mean, let's

662
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 1: have let's have a great time together. Let's go to

663
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: a ballgame. S throwing it out there, all right, I'll

664
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: see it next time in the around the NFL PO. Alright,

665
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: so let's get into it. Let's give some advice to

666
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: the young bucks, as Dion, the young bucks listen, young

667
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: Buck to the young bucks out there. So yeah, that Magic.

668
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 1: Johnson's nickname was actually Buck among his teammates and coaches,

669
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: because he was a young buck. Like if you read

670
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: a book about the eighties Lakers, they all say, oh,

671
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,760
Speaker 1: well Buck did this. They don't say Magic. That's interesting.

672
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: I did not know that. Uh. So, you know, let's

673
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: give some advice to the young guys that are the rookies,

674
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: the guys you know, sub twenty four type age range.

675
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: They're going on summer vacation right now and they they're

676
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: looking for a five their figure west who are literally

677
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: old enough to be the father of these young NFL players.

678
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: So why don't we start with you give out some

679
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: father's day advice. The biggest waste of hours and money

680
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: in my life, and I haven't done this a whole

681
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: lot is hanging out in clubs. Don't go to clubs.

682
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: They're a waste. Spend your time in a national park. Jesus,

683
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: I know we're talking about your audience. Was you gotta inact,

684
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,919
Speaker 1: I'm giving advice. I'm not giving them a free pass

685
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: to do whatever they want. Of discipline. As a father,

686
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: you're telling Zeke Elliott to go to Yellowstone. Yes, it's

687
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: your country, connect with it. Nature is there's nothing bad

688
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: about nature. It's all glorious. It's not a bad idea,

689
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: that great idea. But a thing about being a father

690
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: too is you have to try to get to their

691
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: level to communicate. If you're just being just shouting it down,

692
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: I don't think I totally understood what we were doing

693
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: in this segment. I'm the Colleen that I guess today

694
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: saying this exercise, we're painting ourselves as the fathers of

695
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: these not the act. That's kind of almost kids. Come on,

696
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,479
Speaker 1: do you remember when you were twenty two? I didn't

697
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: understand it. West, That's great advice. I don't want to

698
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: say like I'm saying that's not a great thing to do.

699
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, do you think they're gonna listen to?

700
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: Eventually they'll get to that point where they're sick of

701
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: the clubs my children, speed up the process. Okay. I

702
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: think it's good when you listened to older people. I

703
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: think that I agree we probably missed that a little bit.

704
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: I agree with you on that. Um Now I'm going

705
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: to seem like a huge hypocrite because, hey, listen, young

706
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 1: bucks out there, Um you looking for something wholesome to do? Uh?

707
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: This summer County Crows and Live. Yeah, z Kelly is

708
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: going to listen to the Counting Crows in Live. Come on.

709
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: I've never seen Dan say something on the podcast and

710
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: be so immediately like ashamed and expecting us to come

711
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: after him. Yeah. I just saw a tweet pop up

712
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: in my feet that count of crows a special guest

713
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: live are on the road this summer. So if you

714
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: check out the tortoise, I mean, I'm I'm about as

715
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: old that I'm an old dad there. I'm not going

716
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: out the other dad to this that's just given up

717
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: this advice for other dads. This is an advice for

718
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: young people are all over North America this summer. But

719
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: you know, so just uh, there's some advice. I grag

720
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: you up. Well, I misunderstood the exercise. I thought we

721
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: were giving fathers the advice to kind of other other dads.

722
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of dads though in the NFL,

723
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 1: a lot of young men with young children in the NFL.

724
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: And uh, and they're just learning how to be a dad.

725
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: And that's that's the the avenue I'm going down. And

726
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: my my advice is just don't worry about all the

727
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: other father's advice and and don't worry about like, oh,

728
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: we gotta figure out what that couple is doing, or

729
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: like there's like mommy groups, there's that like forget the groups.

730
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: You know what's best for your own kids. You don't

731
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: need to listen joins a group. You don't need to

732
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 1: listen to anyone else tell you how to raise your

733
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: own kids. Like, sure, you want to talk about it

734
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: with your friends and stuff like that, but for the

735
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: most part, like books and like general kind of bromides

736
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: of like this is how to be a good It's like,

737
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 1: come on, just drop a bromide, bro. This is just

738
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: you can figure this out. It's biology. You and your

739
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: wife know what's bet Every kid's different, every family's different,

740
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,919
Speaker 1: every relationship. Feel free to lean on your own parents. Yeah.

741
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you don't ask advice. I'm saying kind

742
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: of this these general like books and like trying to

743
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: keep up with the Jones is okay, They've got them

744
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 1: signed up for five different things like no, don't worry

745
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 1: about that. You you know your internal compass. What's best

746
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: to do? I agree, listen to your soul. That was

747
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: very good. That's all I got. I mean crows also

748
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: to That's that's true too. Got another one. I would

749
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: like to use this time to say happy birthday to

750
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,720
Speaker 1: Torque Rosenvinge. One of our listeners, lovely fiance Madeline, asked

751
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: us to say hello to him. It would make his year. Okay,

752
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: so happy birthday, Torque. What a name. Where is he from?

753
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: Great name? I believe Washington state, but it doesn't it

754
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 1: sound Nordic, sounds highly Nordic. That if you're going to

755
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: be Nordic and live in a state in the U. S.

756
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: That's that's a good one to go for Washington. Yeah,

757
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: here's some real advice. Don't carry a gun. Don't if

758
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: you're going to a club, don't put it. They won't

759
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: be going to clubs, will be going to yellows. If

760
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: you don't bring a gun to Yellowstone unless it's a

761
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: hunting rifle, can you Semity is a fine park as well?

762
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,240
Speaker 1: Your seventy is nice? Uh. Putting the gun on the waistband.

763
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: We've seen it with a key to leave. It's not

764
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: as secure as you think. That's some fatherly advice. How

765
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: you like that one? Right, that's great advice. And I'll

766
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: throw one out there. Do not use you're gonna be

767
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: going to the club. If you're not going to the parks,

768
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna go to the clubs. The clubs are a

769
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 1: big thing for these guys, these young guys. What I'm

770
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: saying is they don't need to be like step back

771
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: and act on how important a club really is in

772
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: your life. The difference between parenting is that you're giving

773
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: them advice that probably they'll look back and say, oh,

774
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: dad was right. I'm more like, listen, kids, I know

775
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna be drinking, but if you're gonna do it,

776
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: do it in the basement. I don't want don't stay

777
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: out off the roads, don't want you get in trouble.

778
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 1: I'm the parent that's more like, hey, I know the score.

779
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,720
Speaker 1: So along those lines, you're gonna be at the Club's

780
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: no gun in the waist band. Also, don't use the

781
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: Gronk does it? So why can't I mentality? Because Gronk

782
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: is the only one that could outwardly act like a

783
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: buffoon and uh and you know, go to personal appearances

784
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: and say dumb things and do handstands on the dancelor

785
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: with his brothers and just cause havoc and everybody just

786
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 1: laughs it off. If you do it, you're probably gonna

787
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: get a lot of think pieces written about you that

788
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: you're not focused on the game. You're the next Johnny Manziel.

789
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm not saying what Gronk does is wrong, but he's

790
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 1: the only guy, for whatever reason, that gets a free

791
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: pass to be a buffoon, uh and a big lovable

792
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: dork and you're you can't do it. So You're motto

793
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 1: for the summer should be avoid the think piece. Avoid

794
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: the think piece. I think everyone should avoid being the

795
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: subject of age. You can be like one of, if

796
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: not the greatest players ever at your position. You can

797
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: get away with a lot more Taylor, Gronk, whoever it is. Oh,

798
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: so you gotta be that good, then then you get

799
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: a free pass. But unless you're that good. Also, if

800
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: your bad decisions mainly affect yourself and not other people,

801
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: you get a free pass. Yeah, gron has never heard anybody.

802
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: Maybe he's lost some brain cells. Greg, anything else that

803
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: was good, Yours was very practical and I enjoyed it

804
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: all right, that's it. I have a lot to learn

805
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: about fatherhood. It's happening, man, June is gonna be June Boom.

806
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: I call it for Chris Wesling coming up next week,

807
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: by the way, a couple of things um odds on

808
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: Chris Westling's best man. Also one of the deepest long

809
00:43:55,600 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: shots to be West's best man, David Eally is going

810
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 1: to be in studio to make his pitch sitting at

811
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: seven one right now, keeps dropping. Excuse me to seventy

812
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: five to one. That's what it was I raised. I

813
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 1: raised the question, are we sure David Elee is even

814
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 1: invited to the wedding? Because I might take the odds.

815
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just curious what those odds would be.

816
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 1: I have been trying to convince Keisha, do you never

817
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: know what if it's a small wedding, I've been trying

818
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: to convince her to keep it small. But I feel

819
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,439
Speaker 1: like we're gonna I'm gonna lose that you keep it small.

820
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 1: It's more important. It's even more important that he locks

821
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: down best man. Then if everything is paying, it's best

822
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: man or nothing. Um County Crows and live open up

823
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 1: at the Taco Bell Arena on June. What's the Taco

824
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: Bell Area. It's that's that's where they're opening up. They

825
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 1: love their Taco Bell there. They live their Counting Crows there.

826
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: All right, This is Dan handsOn signing off for the Maleman,

827
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,919
Speaker 1: the old Boss Lindsey full time behind the glass. Happy

828
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: Father's Day to all the dads out there, including Keith,

829
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: Tom ed ed ed till Monday, somebody else m