1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another episode of Busting with 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: the Boys. 3 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 2: Congratulations to the TCU horn Frogs and winning the national. 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 3: Let's go, boy, Yeah, let's go. 5 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Let's pray to God that heyday correctly the national championship 6 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: will we played in a couple hours, but we're ride 7 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: with the horn Frogs today. They took down my boys 8 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: a couple weeks ago. 9 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 3: Do they earn the win? 10 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: That's not for us to say. We haven't said that, 11 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: but people are saying that maybe they didn't. Maybe Michigan 12 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: lost it more than they want it. 13 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 3: That is not the case. 14 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: But what is the case is that the playoffs are 15 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: finally upon us, but one team has already won it 16 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: all and that team is That team is Chevy, and 17 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: it's star player at the Silverado, a truck with unstoppable 18 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: grit and determination. 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A lot of the Barstool football brands, yep, 31 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 2: that we could potentially be presenting a new vehicle. 32 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 3: Oh that's that's that's that's girl talk, that's girl stuff. 33 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 3: That's got Yeah. 34 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,559 Speaker 1: I would I would like to. If the sales team 35 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: has got the too, boys got them to the boys, 36 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: Barstool sales team need to kind of throw in there. Hey, wy, 37 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: don't you throw the boys a couple of free Chevyes 38 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: because that'd be nice. 39 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 2: Like, Hey, I don't know how we're selling this, but 40 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: we should easily have a couple of Chevyes in the 41 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 2: equation just waiting for the boys, right Like, I already 42 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: got one and it is a fucking badass like them 43 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: new the New twenty five hundreds. 44 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of those. 45 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 4: Market. 46 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: You're in the market for a vehicle right now. I 47 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: need one. I'm like cold Stone Creamery. I gotta have it. 48 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: We have a very long podcast for you guys today 49 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: and honestly, we want to stop it three or four times, 50 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: but truly it was an incredible pot product podcast. We 51 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: had Josh Dobbs on. We spoke about football, We spoke 52 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: about football, We spoke about football, We spoke about the Jacksonville, 53 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: about the Jacksonville game that just happened, some decisions that 54 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: he should or should not have made. Did he know 55 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: his third down? Did you think did he know was 56 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,119 Speaker 1: fourth down? Did you think it was third down? The lockdown? 57 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: Why the checkdown? Was that a forward pass? We talked 58 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: about his past at Tennessee. Jack McPherson had an incredible 59 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: question for him late in the podcast, real real late, 60 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: but he came in with a haymaker of a question. 61 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: It was incredible. Man's an astrophysicist, is he true? 62 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 2: He's a rocket science He's a rocket science certified rocket 63 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 2: he works with NASA. 64 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: He started talking like literally, we like, well, was like, 65 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: what else should we talk about? Oh, rocket scientists? And 66 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: he started laying down information using words that I have 67 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: to go google later. I had to call Charle ask 68 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: her about the definition of some of those words. 69 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 4: His mouth wide open. 70 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: You were consuming all of it, dude. It was It 71 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: was truly incredible. I hope you guys enjoy it. Is 72 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: awesome tear talk. He's a tear talk now. The tear 73 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 1: talk was our favorite planets, So you're gonna have to 74 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 1: look into that. It might sound very elementary, but I 75 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: think hearing get a lot of good information in that. Boy, 76 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna paint a nice little picture for you. Someone 77 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: got a little mad during their spiel. I'm not gonna 78 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: say who it was. I'm not gonna point fingers, but 79 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: some individual sitting in a chair right now probably didn't 80 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: handle their tear talk. 81 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 3: The best way they probably could have. 82 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 4: They were very aggressive. 83 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: Now on this podcast, we in real time found out 84 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: about the firing of Todd Downing Keith Carter and I 85 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: believe his name is Anthony Midgett. I say I believe 86 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: because I literally have said sixteen words to Anthony midget 87 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: since he was on the Titans. 88 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 2: It is Black Monday, so there's a lot of like 89 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: turnover happening in the league right now. 90 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so that is something you will see my reaction. 91 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: I didn't know how to react really, So that'll be 92 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: for you guys at Dissect. Let me know what you 93 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: guys think. With that being said, I know it's a 94 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: short intro. Is there anything you want to put down, 95 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: I don't think. 96 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 3: So. 97 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: We talk about a lot of the the mental headspace 98 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: of guys, like one of season ends where they're in 99 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 2: dab's see your see we get in the house and 100 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: field for you, Jeff Simmons coming up with this big 101 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 2: contract Josh Jacobs or this fifth year option and handbags 102 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: in the middle fingers to the league. 103 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 4: We dive into that stuff. But yeah, other than that, Bro, 104 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 4: you covered it. You covered it well. 105 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 3: Thank you, buddy, I really appreciate it. If you're watching 106 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 3: right now, I know we're on the YouTube. The YouTube 107 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: has been jumping John. 108 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: That was a nice show outing last week for the 109 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 2: YouTube channel just the two boys too, right. There were 110 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 2: over a thousand people watching at one point time. I 111 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 2: remember seeing that thinking like, oh shit, that's awesome. Yeah, 112 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 2: but if you're watching right now, make sure to leave 113 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: our real live comment, not like obviously we're in the 114 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 2: chat making friends all day long, but go jump in 115 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 2: the real under the real comments and drop a comment. 116 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 4: Hack the algorithm for the boys a little bit. We 117 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 4: are a big years in the. 118 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 3: Making, big years in the making, and you guys started 119 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 3: off real fucking hot, yeah, real hot. 120 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: In the first episode. I did not think the numbers 121 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: like that were gonna happen so fast. So we do 122 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: really appreciate you. Thiseal called millions, millions, the whole point five. 123 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: It does not yet, it does not matter what too. 124 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: There's something's wrong with their website. 125 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 3: But I did see that. I heard that. 126 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: I was on that call with you, and I'm glad 127 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: you let the public know about that. With that being said, boys, 128 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: please enjoy this episode of Busting with the Boys. Like 129 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: Will said, live comment not live chat, correct, So you 130 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: might be in the chat right now. It might be 131 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: easy for you go find that live comment, press that 132 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: then do it. Subscribe, unsubscribed, resubscribe, do all these things 133 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: for us, and we can keep doing things for you. 134 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. 135 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: Please enjoy the fuck out of this episode. Tell you 136 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: what you excited to be on. Yeah, I'm stoked. I'm stoked, 137 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: and I also like everything I transpired the last three weeks. 138 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 3: Two weeks. 139 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 5: I don't know how long it's been like twenty days, 140 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 5: No way, I think the game was eighteen days. 141 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: Wow, that's crazy. You got to put that cup a 142 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: little closer to your face. When we do start, we're 143 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: kind of rolling right now it can be staying. If 144 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: it doesn't. It doesn't when you got the call. Where 145 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: were you when you got the call from the Titans? 146 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 5: So I was in the in the QB meeting after Detroit, 147 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 5: so listen. So I woke up in Cleveland and so 148 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 5: like Detroit to Clean is like two hours. So I 149 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 5: was driving back to Cleveland on the off days just 150 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 5: so I could sit from home bed, wash my underwear, 151 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 5: and then go back. So we played in New York 152 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 5: on Sunday, landed, I drove back to Cleveland for the night, 153 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 5: shipped home all my Christmas stuff, like washed my bag, 154 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 5: had like four pairs of sweatpants, and I packed for 155 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 5: the week and then Christmas to go home. 156 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I drove to Detroit, had practice. 157 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 5: They went through like a fool basically Wednesday, and then 158 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 5: I was in the QB meeting afterwards and they're like, 159 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 5: my agent called me I practiced. I called him back. 160 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 5: He said he I think the Titans want to sign you. 161 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 5: And he's like, all right, this could be one of 162 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 5: those things where they call and like nothing happens, or 163 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 5: it could happen fast, or just keep your phone on you. 164 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 5: So going back to the meeting, sat there a phone 165 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 5: on silent and then it starts buzzing, so it's my 166 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 5: agent calling. 167 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 3: Said yeah, they want to sign you. 168 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 5: And then Ryan called and then I walked back in 169 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 5: the room and said, yo, I got a fight to 170 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 5: catch at eight fifteen. 171 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 3: No way, was it a team meeting or what meeting? 172 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 3: Was the quarterback meeting? QUB meeting? 173 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, quarterback meeting. Willie was officially on the bus for 174 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: those of you. Yeah, we just started, I mean talking, 175 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: and then I saw the numbers rolling, so I thought 176 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: we might as well just get going. My man, my 177 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: man's in Cleveland, So I'm assuming you live in Cleveland 178 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: full time. 179 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 5: That's like, that's well, I mean no, no, no, no, no, 180 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 5: I'll come like a nomad, like a one made Nashville home. 181 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 182 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 5: I started just talking about I just have an apartment 183 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 5: up there. I just had it through the season ends 184 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 5: in February, and you were driving from Cleveland to Detroit. 185 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 5: Driving from Cleveland to Detroit. 186 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: My man had a just packed for like the week 187 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: and then Christmas and he's sitting He's sitting in meetings 188 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: in Detroit. He during practice gets a call from his agent. 189 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: Agent calls his agent back. He's like, Hey, the Titans 190 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: might want to sign you, but you don't know, like 191 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: it might be one of those things who knows what's 192 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: going on. Right, He's sitting in a meeting, his phone 193 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: starts going off. He picks up the phone and he's like, yeah, 194 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: they definitely want to sign you. And then he gets 195 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: on the phone with R. C Ryan Cowden and then 196 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: that's where we're at right now. So he said, hey, 197 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: you walk, So you walk back in the meeting and 198 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: you're like, I gotta go. 199 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 3: I was like, well, He's like, there's an eighth fifteen flight. 200 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 3: Can you make it. 201 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 5: It's like six o'clock, yeah, in Detroit, and they're like, 202 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 5: we want you to dress on Saturday and it's Tuesday. 203 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 5: I'm like, I got think the eight fifteen flight so 204 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 5: I can get there at least, like get a good 205 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 5: night's sleep, like get the playbook as early as possible. 206 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, I'll make it. So I went 207 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 5: straight in the room and said, I know I've been 208 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 5: here for two weeks, but I got a head to 209 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 5: the airport. The Titans are shining me like shook Jared 210 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 5: Nate Brew shook everyone saying his QB room. So it 211 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 5: was up to the OC upstairs in the GM went 212 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 5: straight to the airport. So I'm sewing like that same bag. 213 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 5: I got like four pairs of sweatpants, two pairs of jeans, 214 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 5: just dugging it, just tugging through it. 215 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 3: Dude, dugging it. That's wild. What's the head coach's name 216 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 3: for the lines? Dan Campbell? Dan Campbell? 217 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: What was his You're only there for two weeks, but 218 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: what was his vibe? Because he seems like it's awesome 219 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: the football guy. He seems like, Yeah, people would argue, 220 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: not us. We're not going to argue this. People are 221 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: saying he might be cool with the Mike Vrabel from 222 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: a from like a vibe. 223 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 5: Standpoint, I A would say they're both up there because 224 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 5: they played, you know what I mean, Like they get it, 225 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 5: just like the ebbs and flows of a season, like 226 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 5: the emotions of it as players. I came away for 227 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 5: practice on a Wednesday late in the season, Like they 228 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 5: just get it, Like they walk in the room, they 229 00:08:58,160 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 5: get it. 230 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was cool. Like the culture of there was awesome, 231 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 3: which is crazy to say about the Lions. Yeah, the culture. 232 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 3: I was really impressed because you know how the Lions 233 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 3: were like when I got drafted in fourteen. 234 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: They were picking at ten, and I was like, fuck, dude, 235 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: I did not want to go to Detroit, please. I 236 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: was legit, like, man, I do not want to go 237 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: live back in Michigan again. I was begging not to 238 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: get picked there. Well, so like just in my process, 239 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: so I got released for Cleveland. Well, well we'll get 240 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: into that. But like so I was like either going 241 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: to go back to Cleveland. 242 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 5: I ended up going to Denver, working on Denver and 243 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 5: then visiting Detroit and like even I was there like 244 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 5: the night before the game, and it's like you could 245 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 5: just feel the vibe in the building, like just like 246 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 5: everyone around it. They just are just like focused on 247 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 5: the right things. They have a ton of like coaches 248 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 5: that are players, like on their whole staff, right, so 249 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 5: they just they just get it. 250 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 3: Like the vibe is really really good up there. I 251 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:48,599 Speaker 3: enjoyed it. 252 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 4: Are you are you for the playoffs? 253 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 3: Like? Are you pumped? Got a limited Seahawks ones? 254 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you're good'll come that's all right, Ye 255 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: when the bus come back, he'll be dialed then, yeah, 256 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: we'll cut that off. 257 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 3: Good. 258 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 4: I didn't take my black label, my own in black label. 259 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's not NSF certified either. Yeah, I 260 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: need that performance enhancing You need that right now. So 261 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: you're you're in Cleveland. You were on active at Cleveland. 262 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 3: So I was the two all year in Cleveland. I 263 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 3: want you to talk about Cleveland. Yeah, I want to 264 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 3: hear about Cleveland. 265 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: Hear about Cleveland, you know what I mean, Like a 266 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: normal guy and then your parent you're in the same 267 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: room as a super horny guy in Cleveland. I want 268 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: to find out, like how that dynamic. 269 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 3: Works with you guys. 270 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I need to hear 271 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 4: yeah saying. 272 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: Like did he come off that horny or you're like, oh, 273 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: he might not be as horny as are saying. 274 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 4: Oh he got the rookies and massuse. 275 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, Christmas present, here's a massage therapist. I can't, I cannot, 276 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,719 Speaker 3: I can't. I can't speak on that. But he's a 277 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 3: normal dude, I like to Sean Watson. I think at 278 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 3: this point he's one of those things. 279 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 4: You've ever met. 280 00:10:58,160 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: We all got our you know what I mean, everyone 281 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: has the horny guy ever met. There's two Mike Campanero 282 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: and Rob Moojie. Those are the two horniest people I've 283 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: ever met you boys, horny boys, Like I feel like 284 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: Chase Rice would be up there. Chase Rice, he was 285 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 1: like a horny boy. Yeah. 286 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 3: He performed in my golf tournament last year. Yeah, go 287 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 3: back there now head. 288 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 5: We took him out in Knoxville after the tourney. He 289 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 5: enjoyed the streets of Knoxville. Yeah, I'm sure he enjoyed 290 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 5: the streets of Knoxville. We've got ourselves a line. 291 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 6: Boy. 292 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 3: He had a good time. 293 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: So you're when you're in Cleveland, you are the two 294 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: in Cleveland? Are you the two up unto the point 295 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: that Deshaun came back. Yeah, Okay, that's how it was working. 296 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: Those are two until Deshaun came back. They claimed the QB. 297 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 5: At the end of camp, so we had like three, 298 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 5: but like four when Deshawn's coming back. So they're trying 299 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 5: to keep the room together. They're like, if we release you, 300 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 5: we feel like you'll clear waivers so we can like 301 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 5: keep all four guys together. 302 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 4: Did you bet on practice squad and stuff? Yeah? 303 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 5: Giving me back on practice by stuff. I was like, 304 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 5: all right, like if you released me, basically my season 305 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 5: there is done. Like Deshaun's coming back and stuff. Like shot, 306 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 5: I'm trying to go somewhere like play and like some 307 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 5: other situation because like every week, like you can just 308 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 5: guys know how it is, like every week you look around, 309 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 5: like QB goes down, something shakes up. So it's like 310 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 5: I want to put myself in a position where teams know, like, hey, 311 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 5: I want to go somewhere and play, whether it's for 312 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 5: two weeks or however it may be from the end 313 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 5: of the season. So I'm that's why I ended up 314 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 5: taking the visit to Denver and ended up going to Detroit. 315 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 5: Really like the culture there and like I'd been like 316 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 5: they tried to trade for me a couple of times 317 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 5: early in my career, so I was like, I'm gonna 318 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 5: go there, check it out, and then should it worked 319 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 5: out where I got here. 320 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, So you outed out of signing back on practice 321 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: squad with the Browns because you wanted to put it 322 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 2: out there like, yeah, I'm trying to go play. 323 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 4: I'm not trying to be in an. 324 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 3: Exactly room and look key be at the bottom exactly correct. 325 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 5: Like I felt like, I mean, you're getting demoted and 326 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 5: they're saying that it's not for performance, it's just for logistics, 327 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 5: but it's like, all right, so I guess how it is, 328 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 5: like in the league, you have to look out for 329 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 5: yourself and shoot, like figure out your path and your 330 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 5: career and try to set up an opportunity, make it 331 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 5: up opportunity for yourself if you're not just giving an opportunity. 332 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 5: So that's why I felt like, what's the best bet 333 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 5: for me? 334 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: It seems like you saying that you have to look 335 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 1: out for yourself, Like I feel like when I first 336 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: got in the league, and you might feel this way too, 337 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: but when I first got in the league to now 338 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: that phrase looking out for yourself has become much more 339 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: vocalized throughout the league, Like people are starting to understand more, 340 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 1: like not only in the locker room, because you know, 341 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 1: in the locker room, guys got to look out for themselves. 342 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 3: You got to get paid and do whatever. 343 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: Sure, but like from a public perception as well, people 344 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: are starting to understand that when you're in the NFL, 345 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: like you might love being a part of the team, 346 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: but if there's a better opportunity elsewhere, like you can't 347 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: really fault the. 348 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 3: Guy exactly, know what I'm saying. 349 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think like people like see that guys are 350 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 5: their own businesses right off the field and on the field, 351 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 5: and every situation shakes out differently, so you have to 352 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 5: put yourself in the right position for you to succeed. 353 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 3: And she was a business, so you have to treat 354 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:50,719 Speaker 3: it that way. 355 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, when you were in Cleveland, what's your mindset like 356 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 2: like going in there knowing that you're the backup and 357 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 2: that all the Wold Deshaun Watson thing was kind of 358 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 2: up in the air. What's your mentality like going into 359 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 2: training camp and how you're gonna say it? Because I 360 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 2: would almost think if I'm in your situation, like you 361 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 2: kind of feel, I would almost feel like, oh, I'm 362 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 2: a play center here until he gets back. 363 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 4: Was that kind of the mentality? 364 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 2: Did you feel like you could, uh, you know, make 365 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 2: something shaking training camp to where you could potentially be 366 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 2: the guy like talk about your entire mindset while being 367 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:17,599 Speaker 2: at Yeah, it was. 368 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 5: I mean going into the room into the year, we 369 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 5: all knew it was gonna be interesting when you sign 370 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 5: three brand new quarterbacks that haven't been there with the 371 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 5: Sean dra Kobe myself, so only kind of all new then. 372 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 5: Obviously we knew how it was gonna shake. Out based 373 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 5: on like other paying guys, like hey, this is kind 374 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 5: of the pecking order. But I mean I kind of 375 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 5: just went in there with the mentality of, hey, just 376 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 5: maximize my reps in camp, even though I might not 377 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 5: get a lot, Like go out, I have a really 378 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 5: good preseason and then something shakes out in the season, 379 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 5: then go out and play well and then if it doesn't, 380 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 5: you'll at least set yourself up, whether it's to be 381 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 5: back in Cleveland or for another opportunity after. So yeah, 382 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 5: I mean it was it was an interesting situation, a 383 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 5: unique situation with it just the whole. 384 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 3: Almost think too, like a decision wasn't yet with the 385 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 3: NFL and everything else. 386 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, thinking I could legit be the backup, like this 387 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 2: could think this thing could be the whole year. 388 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, we didn't know until like three weeks into camp 389 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 5: what the NFL was going to do, so that was interesting. 390 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 5: But you always obviously knew they were going to make 391 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 5: a decision, so there would be an opportunity there. 392 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 3: But yeah, we're just kind of working through it. 393 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, when you were when you were at Tennessee, obviously 394 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: Tennis is a huge school and like you're a big 395 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: name guy like everyone knows about Josh Dobbs. You go 396 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: to you drafted by Pittsburgh. Correct, when you're in Pittsburgh, 397 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: what like, how was your experience there? But like, were 398 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: you thinking like all right, Ben's coming up, He's about 399 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: to be done, Like I'm next in line? 400 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 3: Were you was that like your mindset? 401 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 5: That was definitely that was definitely the thought because they 402 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 5: so when I got drafted there, it was Ben, Landry 403 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 5: Jones and then myself and then those were the only 404 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 5: three quarterbacks. And so at the time, Ben had just 405 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 5: in the off season been going back and forth of 406 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 5: if he was going to retire or not, and so 407 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 5: I was like, okay, like Ben, I know, he wants 408 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 5: to win another Super Bowl. So we had a really 409 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 5: good team like my rookie year, and we almost won it. 410 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 5: So it's like we went in another super Bowl and 411 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 5: then there would be an opportunity. But Ben ended up 412 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 5: playing for five more years, like once I got drafted, 413 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 5: So yeah, I didn't check out the way that I 414 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 5: foresaw it. But it was so cool like being being 415 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 5: like working with Ben and just interesting how he plays 416 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 5: the game because he plays it so much differently than 417 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 5: a lot of quarterbacks around the League. So just learning 418 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 5: from him, being around him, we had cool relationship now, 419 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 5: so I enjoyed my time. 420 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 4: There is there a. 421 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 2: Publicly a Ben that you feel like people get wrong 422 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 2: about with his preparation and how he plays the game. 423 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 4: You just said he plays it differently. 424 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 5: Then yeah, you know, I think like he gets the 425 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 5: perception of like Ben's a guy that doesn't watch film 426 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 5: and stuff, but the stuff he does on game day, 427 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 5: he definitely like watches film. He just doesn't do it 428 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 5: maybe like at the complex or like right in front 429 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 5: of your face, But when he goes home, he's definitely 430 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 5: studying because so much of the offense was on him 431 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 5: just to kind of freelance of the line of scrimmage, 432 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 5: like pick his plays. Like a lot of times there 433 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 5: would be no play Like Ben's calling the game on 434 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 5: the field, and you can't do that if you're not studying, preparing, 435 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 5: watching some type of tape to get a feel for 436 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 5: the opponents. Those really impressive Like we would go to 437 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 5: practice and we would call like no huddle, and you know, 438 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 5: like you get the practice script before practice has like 439 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 5: fifty plays or whatever's on the play. This is like 440 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 5: for OTAs in camp and you would get the practice script. 441 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 5: There wouldn't be one play on it. The quarterbacks will 442 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 5: call it the entire practice. So you just get the line, 443 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 5: you look at the situations like first and ten left hash, 444 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 5: and you just call whatever play you want it because 445 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 5: that's what Ben would do in the game sometimes. And 446 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 5: so it was cool, like we're basically like a little 447 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 5: oc call on your own plays and four. So like 448 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 5: as a rookie, you're out there calling drive and four 449 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 5: verts every play just to find a completion, take a side. 450 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 5: But then once you get in like year two, year three, 451 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 5: you're all right, let me try to set them up, 452 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 5: let me let me call this, let me try to 453 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 5: throw this guy. 454 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 3: So you get to actually like work the game and 455 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 3: work on like being a play. 456 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,239 Speaker 2: Called Who are you asking questions to them to kind 457 00:17:58,280 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 2: of learn about two men and everything else? If it's 458 00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 2: like quarterback is the kind of call their script? Are 459 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 2: you like really asking Ben, like, Hey, what's going on 460 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 2: in your mind? Why are you calling X, Y and Z? 461 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 5: I would ask him a little bit, but he kind 462 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 5: of like he doesn't really like to like talk about 463 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 5: like why he does. 464 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:11,959 Speaker 3: He kind of likes to just do it. And then 465 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 3: you can like ask him for little stuff, but it's. 466 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 4: More playing chess at all time. 467 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 3: He's just playing chess all so really he's playing multiple games. 468 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 3: So yeah, like, okay, I'll. 469 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 4: Give you a little bit, but not too much because 470 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 4: zachtly want to play as long as. 471 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 3: Exactly, so I would. 472 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 5: What were you do is like you will watch him, 473 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,719 Speaker 5: like he'll call a couple of plays and then it's 474 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 5: the funny thing like some of the plays that he liked, 475 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 5: you didn't really know if you didn't didn't like him, 476 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 5: or like couldn't really execute him until you did it. 477 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 5: So like he would call it play and then you 478 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,479 Speaker 5: would go in and because it looked cool and call 479 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 5: it and it wouldn't work, Like. 480 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 3: I ain't ever called that play again. Yeah, but no, 481 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 3: it was smooth, like two minute two minutes. 482 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 5: In practice, the QB will get to call it, so you're. 483 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 3: Kind of like dialing up. 484 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: But you guys had like basic stuff like the Titans 485 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: to be right, where you have a number system or 486 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: like different code names with. 487 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 5: The number system and stuff that you could get through 488 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 5: at tempo, but clock stop out of bounds, especially in 489 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 5: a practice situation like come to Hoddle if you're feeling 490 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 5: it you could just call whatever you want and go 491 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 5: from there. 492 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: Damn, that's a lot of pressure. Yeah, well you got 493 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:05,959 Speaker 1: no situationally, like what the hell is going on too? 494 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 5: You're like, well, we always were practiced that you needed 495 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 5: a touchdown to win, so you could be aggressive at spots. 496 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 5: But it was cool because you were put in that 497 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 5: pressure cooker situation and it was all on you. 498 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 2: You know. 499 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 5: Like sometimes like cbous, they can get handcuffed with plays. 500 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 5: Sometimes they oh I didn't like that play. Yeah, so 501 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 5: then you go a pick or incomplete behind the chains. 502 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 5: But just you picking the play, I mean you can't. 503 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 5: There's no excuse. 504 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 3: It's on you. Yeah, you to go out there. 505 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: He feels about that if like you are to have 506 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: the title of OC at Pittsburgh with them, You're like, 507 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: I'm really not really, I'm not just here to watch 508 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: the game. 509 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd almost like cause you're you ultimately want to 510 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 2: play into the strength of your players, like you have 511 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 2: somebody like Ben Roethlisberger. 512 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 4: There's been doing a long time. 513 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 2: I'm sure they've had plenty of conversations to where it's like, hey, 514 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:50,239 Speaker 2: do your thing out there. 515 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I think it comes from like coach t 516 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 3: just giving players that freedom. I mean they know Ben. 517 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 5: Ben's like a point guard back there. Yeah, with the 518 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 5: way he plays, gets the ball of his hands. 519 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 2: Want just be disrespectful, Like in the situation of the Tights, 520 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 2: A Dobbs comes in and and Rabes looks at uh 521 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 2: uh Todd and it's like, hey, don't worry about calling 522 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 2: two minute, Josh Dobbs is gonna call it. Then that's 523 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 2: where I feel like you You probably feel some type 524 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 2: of way of coordinator, like fuck man, you want to yeah, yeah. 525 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 3: Their arms crossed. I kind of just waiting to see 526 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 3: what happens. 527 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 4: Dude. Since we're talking about the Titans. 528 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 2: I definitely like you signed and you're starting that week, 529 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 2: like talk about your mental space leading up to that week, 530 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 2: because you you started twice. You started twice now like 531 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 2: you just literally was thrown into the fire with the 532 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans. Like talk about you signing, you get here, 533 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 2: you realize, Okay, they might want to sign me to 534 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: where Oh I'm the fucking guy this week. 535 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 4: I better get a ship going. 536 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: It was well on before before you into that, did 537 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: they say you were the guy right away? 538 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 3: So they so? 539 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 5: Because I know, right, yeah, So the first week. Last week, 540 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 5: I didn't start, but they said we want you to dress. 541 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 5: So I got there Wednesday morning and the game was Saturday, 542 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 5: and they're like, we're gonna dress as the two for 543 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 5: the game. So it's like, okay, I could play. And 544 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 5: then the next day it was Christmas. After the game, 545 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 5: they said, hey, can you come back early because we 546 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 5: think we're gonna start you Thursday night against the Cowboys. 547 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 5: I say, yeah, for sure. I mean, here's the thing. 548 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 5: Here's the thing, Like outside looking at right, it's a 549 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 5: crazy situation, like, bro, you've been there like a week, 550 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 5: like you gotta go start this game, like there's a 551 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 5: lot of pressure behind it all this stuff. But from 552 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 5: like inside looking out like me, it's like to start 553 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 5: an NFL football game, it's sometime we went on for 554 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 5: six years. So for you to say, like, okay, you 555 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 5: got five days to get ready for it, that's plenty 556 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 5: of time, you know what I mean, that's that's almost 557 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 5: a lot of time to get ready for it. To 558 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 5: understand they play book. I might got nothing else to do. 559 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 5: I got one bag of clothes, you know, nowhere to go. 560 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 5: So it's just a tremendous opportunity. Man, just to go 561 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 5: out there play ball. 562 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 3: You know, I thought it. 563 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 5: Obviously I expected to have more starts before going to 564 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 5: my six year, But to get that opportunity to go 565 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 5: out and play and play well and just embrace it. 566 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 3: I had a lot of fun with it. 567 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: On Primetime too, Cowboys Primetime. 568 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 5: Gets the Cowboys at home. I mean, there's there's there's nothing, 569 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 5: there's nothing better than that. 570 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, what you live for. You live for those opportunities, 571 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 3: just to go out. 572 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: When you're in Nashville, Tennessee, and you play at the 573 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys on Primetime. There is no home game if 574 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: you're in Nashville or you're in you're so. 575 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 3: Many Cowboys fans there. Oh dude, That's how it was. 576 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 4: My rookie Yar too. 577 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 3: We played that. 578 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: We were in silent the whole game. I mean at 579 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: that point we won one game. It was like week thirteen. Smart, 580 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: like all right, we did the same thing. 581 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 5: We're like, let's go side and also work because we 582 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 5: knew we're gonna play in Jacksonville is gonna be rocking anyway. Now, 583 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 5: it might as well practice, especially but it'd be my 584 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 5: first time doing it. 585 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 3: You played well once you. 586 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 2: Get past the first couple of plays, where were the 587 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 2: nerves Like leading up to the game, Yeah, you're excited. 588 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 2: You're like, You're like, you have plenty of time to 589 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 2: get ridy for a game, like you're you're in the book. 590 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 2: You're in the book. You're in the book. Ready, Yeah, 591 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 2: and then the day comes and it's a night game, 592 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 2: so it's like, man, I got to chay hotels. Give 593 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 2: me that fucking hotel all day. About the mindset the 594 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 2: nerves a little bit, You're like, it's fucking yeah. 595 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 5: Oh, it's like you you rather just wake up and play, 596 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 5: you know, just get the one o'clock games so you 597 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 5: don't have to sit all day because you sit in 598 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 5: the hotel all day. You look at the game playing 599 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 5: a thousand times, and then by the end of it, 600 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 5: you're like, all right, what are they going. You're trying 601 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 5: to you're trying to play the game in your head, 602 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 5: you're trying to anticipate plays, and then sure, you haven't 603 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 5: been out there since the preseason. So the first couple 604 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 5: of plays, like it was moving fast, like guys were 605 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 5: flying around them. 606 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 3: It's like you saw what coverage it they were in. 607 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 5: But just then going out and like actually like Okay, 608 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 5: I got catched the ball. I got to execute the 609 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 5: play rather than just mentally executing it. It took a 610 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 5: couple of plays just to get back in the group. 611 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 5: But once the once I got back in the flow, 612 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 5: it was smooth. It was just like, all right, this 613 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 5: is just football, you know, And that's like, that's like 614 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 5: the best thing. Like anytime you make the jump from 615 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 5: any level, right, first time playing in high school, you know, 616 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 5: you're nervous about the first game college. Same thing, and 617 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 5: the same thing because you're nervous about the speed of 618 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 5: the game. You're nervous about whatever the opposing players are. 619 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 5: And then you get out there, it's just football, same 620 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 5: game I've been playing for a long time. 621 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, but it does move a lot faster. It 622 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 3: does move a lot faster. 623 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: Those five days you're like, oh, that's playing time to 624 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: get ready mentally for a game like learning to playbook, 625 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: how much time did you take and look at like 626 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: the personnel because you come into your situation for you individually, 627 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 1: is an amazing situation because you're like, I'm looking to start, 628 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: I'm looking to play Tennessee. Gave you that and you're like, 629 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: all right, that's awesome. Let's to check that out the list. 630 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: Now you look at the roster and you go, holy fuck, 631 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: was the w guy? There's no like this is a 632 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: loose term. There's nobody on the team anymore. Well, you're 633 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: you're playing with guys that weren't original stars week one. 634 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 635 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 5: So yeah, So when I signed, I looked at the 636 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 5: roster and like the first you just scroll through the 637 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 5: roster to see who you know, Like, okay, I got 638 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 5: to know this guy. Now I looked, I got got 639 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 5: down and it's like injury reserved. Yeah, I was like 640 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 5: longer than looking at the active roster like dang, there's 641 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 5: so many guys out. 642 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 3: So no, there's a lot of young players. I think 643 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 3: that was like even going into a situation where they're 644 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 3: on like three or four game losing streak as yeah, 645 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 3: they're what we lost seven in a row? Seven? 646 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, the five at that point, right, Yeah, like it 647 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: was four because you came in and you were sitting 648 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: behind elite when you Yeah, but go, so like how 649 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: did you work through that process? You give a couple 650 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: of receivers and be like listen, like you like a 651 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: Robert Woods is the first person that comes to mind 652 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: s Finnley for a while before he got hurt. He 653 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: had four one thousand yard seasons like if without playing quarterback. Ever, 654 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, Okay, I need a lifeline guy around here, 655 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: like Austin Hooper, I need Robert Woods. Like were there 656 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: guys you wouldn't approached. It was like, this is I 657 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:24,959 Speaker 1: don't know what the fuck's going on, but I need 658 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: to know that I need someone to bail me out 659 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 1: once in a while. 660 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, So I would just tell him just like stick 661 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 5: with me. Like that was the biggest thing on the song. 662 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 5: I was like, hey, stick with me. I have to scramble, 663 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 5: especially like a Woody yeah who because I knew, like 664 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 5: those guys have played a ton of ball and so 665 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 5: I almost like, yo, just stick with me. But the 666 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 5: creasing was so for the Thirsty Night game, we didn't 667 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 5: get any live reps in practice because it was a 668 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 5: short week. 669 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 3: Like walk through. 670 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: I mean, that's yeah, which is fantastic late in the year, 671 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: but if you're just coming into it, you're like, bro, 672 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: I could use the little speed some of the throws 673 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: in the game. 674 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 5: That was like the first time I'd ever thrown that 675 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 5: route to the to the receiver live. Like we through 676 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 5: trying to throw trailer and strike. It was about a 677 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 5: foot behind him, Like it was like back hip. I 678 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 5: was like, that's the first live strike route I've thrown 679 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 5: to him in my life. Yeah, we're throwing it like 680 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 5: thirty seven, you know, in the middle the third quarter 681 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 5: a huge play. So it was like little things like 682 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 5: that that you had to work through. Yeah, it was 683 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 5: a crazy process. 684 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: What's it meant for you to get that opportunity after 685 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 2: waiting patiently for six years? It was only that You've 686 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 2: had such a lot of pivots along the way, like 687 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 2: being drafted by Pittsburgh, getting traded, being cut, being on 688 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 2: practice squad, being on ir Like you've had a lot 689 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 2: of different situations come about. Then you go on practice 690 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 2: squad for a couple weeks with Detroit, you get a call, 691 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 2: Oh shit, I'm going to Tennessee. You're dressing that week, 692 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 2: and then you're starting these last two games, Like what 693 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 2: does that meant to you? 694 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 4: Like, with all the time that's gone by in your career. 695 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 3: It was. 696 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 5: It was awesome in the world, you know, I wish 697 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 5: obviously the result of it of the two stars was 698 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 5: a little different, but just to be out there and 699 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 5: play It's like I tell everyone this. Everyone's asking me, like, 700 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 5: what is it like, because people, you know, like, oh, 701 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 5: you're a back of cord and lead. That's like the 702 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 5: easiest job in the world. You're just chilling, like watching 703 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 5: other people play. It's largely thought of. 704 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 3: I think that right now, I'm ready for you to 705 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 3: change my mind. Every year, I'm like, yo, you're fucking 706 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 3: living the dream. Win a couple of games a year 707 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 3: and then yeah, exactly, Middle Reliever. Yeah, that's what I 708 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 3: told him. It's like it was like in high school. 709 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 5: You have like the biggest tests of your life, especially 710 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 5: like before you first start, you have the biggest EPs 711 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,959 Speaker 5: of your life. It's basically I got to decide if 712 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 5: you get to go on and do everything you want 713 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 5: in this world or not. Right, And so you prepare 714 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 5: every single week, and you know that test is going 715 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 5: to come on Friday. So every single week Monday, you 716 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 5: can wake up, you prepare for the test Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, 717 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 5: got the butterflies in your stomach, and you wake up 718 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 5: Friday and you don't take the test, and then you 719 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 5: do it again next week, and you do it again 720 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 5: next week. 721 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: Oh damn that next week, and then for me test, 722 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 1: what the is talking about it to me? Like front 723 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: it all together. I was like, oh, ship, that does 724 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,719 Speaker 1: be a good fucking point. And for me, I've done 725 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: that for six years. I mean like every Friday is 726 00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: a test. I just never know when want to take it. 727 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 5: And so like that's the biggest sound wheremind myself is 728 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 5: like you don't know where you're gonna take the test, 729 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 5: but you do yourself a disservice if you're not ready 730 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 5: to take that test. So every single week I with prepares. 731 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 5: I said, if I'm gonna take the test, and I 732 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 5: take the test, hit reset. Some weeks are tougher than others, 733 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 5: but just keep pushing forward and shoot look up whenever, 734 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 5: whenever the test is done and succeed. 735 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 3: So so it is easy, No, it's not easy, but 736 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 3: shitty being like shitty being a backup. 737 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 2: And you got to do that every week and you're 738 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 2: like you're dressed and everything, like, man, I gotta be ready. 739 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 4: You're so hyped up getting ready? 740 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 3: Can you get hyped up? 741 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: That's what it's because listen, listening to you and that 742 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: whole thing right there, like obviously you saw my mind 743 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: get blown. 744 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 3: I was a vocal about it. 745 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: But if six years and you're studying for a test 746 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: every single week and then that last like eventually once 747 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: in a while, you're like, fuck, did this test ain't 748 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: coming this way? Like I got like if you're behind Ben, right, 749 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: dude's been playing forever, he's like he's a statue in there, 750 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: but he gets the ball out relatively fast and he 751 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: could take some hits. There's got to be a level 752 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: of being like, all right, maybe I'm good this week. 753 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: All this defensive line is not good. That the quarterback 754 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: like that you do that. 755 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 3: Second you do that, you're thrown in there. 756 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 5: So like, for instance, so second everyone's backing up Ben, 757 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 5: we'd be sitting there and we're playing the Ravens, like 758 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 5: late in the season. It's cold, you're staying standing in 759 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 5: Baltimore in the middle of December for three hours, and 760 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 5: I was really standing there. It's probably it's like the 761 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 5: fourth quarter, we're up to like five points, we're coming 762 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 5: out was like first and fifteen. I'm like, all right, 763 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 5: like Ben got this, Like the game's over, Like I 764 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 5: have my beanie on. I was not chilling, like I 765 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 5: was still in the game, but it was like, but 766 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 5: you're chilling, Yeah, you're sitting there like, yeah, game's over. 767 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 3: We're good. Then goes to scramble. They were like pee 768 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 3: Tampa too. 769 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 5: Then goes to scramble and the three technique like falls 770 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 5: on him and he's just like laying on the ground, 771 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,239 Speaker 5: just out And in my head, I'm like this man 772 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 5: like just passed out on the field. So then like 773 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,719 Speaker 5: that's when stomach drops. Sorry, get the helmet, like warm up. 774 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 5: You haven't thrown since pregame warm ups. We go out 775 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 5: there is like first and fifteen second, fifteen coach he's like, throw. 776 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 3: The deep over. 777 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 5: They haven't covered it all day. I'm like, damn, I 778 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 5: thought we were just gonna hand it off. You're coming 779 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 5: out of the end zone, crowds going rout wild some 780 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 5: quick exactly. So and then that was like my that 781 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 5: was my first play in the league. So threw over 782 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 5: to Juju and then I go, okay, I can do this. 783 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 5: And then Ben walks back on the field. He's fine, 784 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 5: he shook it off. He just got the wind knock 785 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 5: out of him. But like all that to say was 786 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 5: I was staying on the sideline five minutes before that, 787 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 5: like to your point. Just they're like like okay, like 788 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 5: I'm not playing today, like the game's over, and then 789 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 5: the second you like seek that comfort and you sit down, boom, 790 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 5: you're thrown in there. So I just like examples like 791 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 5: that have occurred throughout my career that I try not 792 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 5: to catch myself like in that role where it's like, oh, 793 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 5: it's over, you know, just always just finding ways to 794 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 5: whether it's not a routine or whether it's just the 795 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 5: process of getting prepared, just to stay locked in, because 796 00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,719 Speaker 5: as I said, you just do yourself a discredit if 797 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 5: you're not ready for the opportunity. 798 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, Because there are definitely times where 799 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,719 Speaker 2: you think you do think that way, especially depending how 800 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 2: long the season has been too, because in the beginning 801 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 2: seas you're kind of like you never know could have 802 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 2: been some of the coaches tell you, I don't know 803 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 2: about for quarterback, but like linebacker, like oh you will 804 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 2: get you in here x y Z blah blah blah. 805 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 2: But there are definitely times where you can get in 806 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 2: some lulls of thinking about it. But he's right, like, 807 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 2: the minute it does happen, that anxiety prepared, you're because 808 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 2: that that week where I had got cutting and brought 809 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 2: back on practice squad and we were playing the Ravens. 810 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 4: For whatever reason, I was a little bit nervous because 811 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 4: I man, what team is this? 812 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 3: The Titans? 813 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 2: This was the Titans, This is a twenty eighteen, this 814 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 2: is the second sin with the Titans. Yeah, And I 815 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 2: was like, man, you know, I hope I don't have 816 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 2: to go in there like I'm you know, really that's 817 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 2: a tough mindset too, right right, I hope I don't 818 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 2: have to go in there. Like I've been on practice 819 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 2: squad this entire week. They're just now telling me that 820 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 2: I could play. Oh, I'm going to back up in 821 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 2: the game. So Friday or Saturday or whenever they're doing 822 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 2: all the walk through stuff. I'm just behind uh Rareshawan 823 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 2: and Jayon just kind of shadowing them because you know, 824 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 2: it's Lamar Jackson. There's some wrinkles in their run game 825 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 2: and pass game that it's like you can't just go 826 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 2: in there with a dropback quarterback. You feel a lot 827 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 2: more comfortable coming off like a practice squad situation. You're like, Okay, 828 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 2: a lot of this stuff is real general concepts that 829 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 2: everybody kind of has. 830 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 3: Yea, yeah. 831 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 2: But the Ravens, for whatever reason, they got they got it. 832 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 2: It's like a different game plan that week. So since 833 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 2: I've been on practe squad that whole week and then 834 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 2: they tell me like, hey you could, You're we're gonna 835 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 2: activate you a practice squad after just getting cut. You're 836 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 2: just like, okay, well let me stand because I was 837 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 2: a little bit nervous and that was the game. 838 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 4: Jahn fucking fucked up his elbow. 839 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,479 Speaker 3: It was terrible to then God he was wearing long sleeves. 840 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and literally I was in there. I was like, 841 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 2: thank god, I was going through just the walks or 842 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,479 Speaker 2: something like that. Through the process. It always comes when 843 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 2: you're just not You're like the most unprepared and you 844 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 2: have like a type of anxiety of like man By 845 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 2: going in and looks stupid like it's over. 846 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Lamar does make people look stupid. Yeah. 847 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: I think of Lamar when he sees jam go down, 848 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: who's a very athletic linebacker, and then you walk out white. 849 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 3: He always sees the white guy. He's like, oh, he 850 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:06,719 Speaker 3: doesn't work out for him. 851 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: But a white linebacker, a black linebacker goes out and 852 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: then a white leg of recom He goes, oh, man, 853 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: I'm running off that guy. 854 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 855 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 2: All I'm saying is try being a white man chasing 856 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 2: the tackle Lamar Jackson in this league can happen. 857 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 3: Your only hope is making go east and west. I'd 858 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 3: be like, please, dog Cavalry get here exactly. Wait you 859 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 3: find some time? Yeah, like all right, don't don't die 860 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 3: out the diving board. 861 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: They'll sit under myself, all everything, everything, ninety miles round. 862 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: I know, dude, Lamar is impressed. I hope he gets paid. 863 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 4: I hope he. 864 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,479 Speaker 2: I think he will for the Ravens. You think he's 865 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 2: gonna go somewhere else, I don't know. I know he's 866 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 2: gonna get paid. I don't know who knows if it's 867 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 2: going to be the number that. 868 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what the number he's wanting. I 869 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: don't know if he's like an irrational person or not. 870 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: But I've never met him, but I think I think 871 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: he'll get paid. I think I think with the OC's 872 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: up for a job somewhere, so that might that might 873 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: shake shake some things up. 874 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 2: But I think it'll be interesting is how all the 875 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 2: gms and owners will look at the contract situation. Because 876 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,879 Speaker 2: I know he can he can throw the ball around 877 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 2: but the running game is a big part of his 878 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 2: game and the life, the lifespan of like a running back. 879 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 4: In the league. 880 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,879 Speaker 2: And you can look back at Vic and all these guys, 881 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 2: it's just wherever they see him, like how long do 882 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 2: we exactly? 883 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 3: How long can he play at that level type of 884 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 3: game that he plays. 885 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 2: As another element, that element shows that like they only 886 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 2: have so much tread on the tire because you can't 887 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 2: have like the way Lamar plays, he loses a step. 888 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 2: It definitely equalizes the game a little bit more. 889 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 1: Absolutely equalizes the game. I wonder, yeah, I wonder if 890 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: he is going to the bus. Love that Lamar's he 891 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,439 Speaker 1: follows you, right, Yeah, he's one of the boys. He's 892 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:50,879 Speaker 1: one of the boys. 893 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 4: Yeah I was. 894 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 2: I actually made that joke that try being a Whyke 895 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 2: on the field chasing Lamar Jackson. And it was one 896 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 2: of those ones where it was going out there to 897 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 2: different audiences and then people started to call me like 898 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 2: racist and ship like that, and then Lamar comes in 899 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 2: and laughs at and everything else. So I'm good, what 900 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 2: if I yeah, you get one of the bros on there? 901 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 2: Like it's that's like the almost the equivalent of being like, oh, 902 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 2: I'm not racist. My best friend's black. Like you got 903 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 2: that card right there. 904 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 4: He comes in and says something, it's like the guy 905 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 4: I'm talking about. 906 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's it's like this. I'm good. You saw 907 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 3: him good. People like that. People are like that all 908 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 3: the time. You can invite to the cookout. You're like, yo, 909 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 3: I'm I'm good. 910 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 2: I can't wait to tell all my white boys, Like, guys, 911 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 2: I got plans on Saturday. 912 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, you just want to hang out? I can't, Like, 913 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 3: we didn't ask you, but I'm doing. Yeah. 914 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: I hope he needs to kind of be like our 915 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 1: boy Kirk Cousins and kind of do like the short 916 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 1: three year guaranteed contracts gets that gets the money bags. 917 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 3: Money hipping them things up. Huh do you think he 918 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 3: deserves it? Yeah, for sure. I mean I was just 919 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 3: trying to see if my boy's gonna slip get some 920 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 3: headlines out here. We got the same agent, so Mike, yeah, 921 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 3: might be grinding. 922 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Kurt, like we were actually talking about it this morning. 923 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 2: Like Kurt played the situation perfectly. You have to take 924 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 2: a little risk to get to the market, for sure, 925 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 2: see what your market value is, and then that's where 926 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,439 Speaker 2: if you're healthy and coming out coming out looking good 927 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 2: on scathes and free agency, you're able to leverage all 928 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 2: of your stuff to get it might be a lower ceiling, 929 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 2: but you'll get that fully guaranteed contract ever. 930 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 3: Since, ever since, every contract. 931 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, because yeah, what we were in that conversation because 932 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: of Jeffery Simmons. Yeah, yeah, we were talking about his 933 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 1: fifth year ouption coming up and if he's gonna I 934 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: don't know, Like, you know how the things, the things 935 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: get crazy when your contract is up and you've played well. 936 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: Like I jokingly told Jeff, Hey, I know we're not 937 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: the best friends. We got a fight in camp and 938 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 1: for some reason he's never let it go since then, 939 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,399 Speaker 1: so like we're definitely a rocky. He holds a grudge 940 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: of big time. I was like, hey, I want you 941 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 1: to know, like our career is based on where you're 942 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 1: at right now. Are identical the exact same as far 943 00:36:58,440 --> 00:36:59,879 Speaker 1: as accolates go. I was like, I hope to god 944 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: yours end's better than mine does. But and then we 945 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 1: had a whole conversation you're that's right, you're ten loading Broton. 946 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: But we had a whole conversation of like fifth year 947 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: option and how that's gonna play out. He was like, 948 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: asking about my stuff, and it's crazy the stuff that 949 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: he's got to go through now going into this fifth year, 950 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: because not only is the fifth year, he's looking at 951 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: two possible franchise tags as well, right, and he's gonna 952 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: get money, But it's not like that money. It's like, oh, 953 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: I'm I'm set in long term, like yeah, you want that, 954 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: you want that contract? That says because if he gets hurt, boom, 955 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: he just lost a whole bunch of money that way. Yeah, 956 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: I'm axed to see how that plays out with the Titans. 957 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 2: As we're just in general, we were talking about the 958 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 2: different like mindset you can be in as a player, 959 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 2: like once your season abruptly ends, like for Jeff, he's like, 960 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 2: you know, you saw the. 961 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 4: Post game video of him like crying the locker at 962 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 4: the locker, like talking about what it means. 963 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 2: So you can just tell, you can tell how much 964 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:50,800 Speaker 2: the game means to him with it all right, and 965 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 2: for somebody to shoot up his ankle the entire back 966 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 2: half of the season to play and try to get 967 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 2: the boys into the playoffs. 968 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 4: You know, as a player, you think in your mind. 969 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 2: And the logo, the team, everybody, everybody's gonna be on 970 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 2: the same page. But the minute the season is over, 971 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,399 Speaker 2: you go from this pack mentality to now this individual 972 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 2: mentality because now it is all suddenly business, and that 973 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 2: shooting up and that playing hurt, and that the product 974 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 2: you end up putting on film most of the time 975 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 2: gets used against you and negotiations, right, just because it's 976 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 2: strictly business. I would assume the tiers are gonna do 977 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 2: whatever possible to retain somebody like Jeff, But a lot 978 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 2: of guys go into thinking I was doing it the 979 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 2: honorable way all year long, fighting for the boys, doing 980 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 2: whatever I can to get back here, feel the pressures 981 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 2: of the coach, the training, sat fans, teammates, everybody, and 982 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 2: I want to like I'm trying to. But then you 983 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 2: turn around if you're not in a situation to have, 984 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,879 Speaker 2: like maybe it's a leverage like Jeff has or someone 985 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 2: who usually it does not work out for you that way, 986 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 2: But you think, damn, I thought, I thought if I 987 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,399 Speaker 2: sacrifice and did all this, you guys would take care 988 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 2: of me. And now you're using what just happened kind 989 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,399 Speaker 2: of against me. Yeah, but that personal, Yeah, you can't 990 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 2: take that. That's a lot of guys that usually get 991 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 2: that bitter, and that's you just find out the teeth 992 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 2: of the business that way, which is unfortunate. 993 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,320 Speaker 4: When you're young, you're kind of like naive about it. 994 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 2: You think college, you get your first off season, you 995 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 2: look at event, you're like, oh, we get the we 996 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:14,839 Speaker 2: get the next few months off. 997 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 3: We don't have to come back until April. And you're like, 998 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 3: oh shit, and you're just you know, you're just like 999 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,399 Speaker 3: a puppy. You're on this four year deal. 1000 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 2: If you if you get to you know, be with 1001 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 2: the team four years, you kind of just you have 1002 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 2: no clue until you get bit in the ass with 1003 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 2: the business side and you're thinking, damn, this is how 1004 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 2: it really is. 1005 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 3: I wonder. 1006 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: I think it's really is going to come down to 1007 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: whether Jeff is on the team or not as how 1008 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: much like how he wants to get paid because he's 1009 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 1: extremely talented. He's a top three d tackle in the league. 1010 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 1: From I think anybody, any GM would go and say 1011 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: the same thing, what is look up Aaron Donald's contract 1012 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: because he's got the number one contract right and it's 1013 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,319 Speaker 1: he's That's a unique situation because Jeff has had two 1014 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl seasons going into a contract year. But Aaron 1015 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 1: Donald is arguably one of the greatest defensive players of 1016 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 1: all time, so he his money's gonna be crazy. Now 1017 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 1: does Jeff want to sit there and say I deserve 1018 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: to get paid as much or more than Aaron Donald's 1019 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 1: getting paid, Because there's arguments for both sides. Jeff's younger, 1020 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,399 Speaker 1: he's extremely disruptive, He's only getting better. 1021 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 4: How much he's a center piece you build around. 1022 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 3: He's a centerpiece. 1023 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: He's a centerpiece you build around. That's those words are 1024 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 1: way too small. 1025 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, what is it? What is it per year? 1026 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 3: Three years? Ninety five million? 1027 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 4: Right here, he's getting like thirty some. 1028 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 3: Thirty something average. 1029 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 1: Because when we were talking that, I was like, if 1030 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 1: they want to pay him like number one money, it's 1031 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: got to be like around thirty. 1032 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder what the other d tackles like in 1033 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 2: the top five get If you're look up, look up 1034 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 2: the top five. Top five got to be the Asian 1035 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 2: everybody negotiating on his behalf, Like whether or not you 1036 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 2: believe whatever it is, you're going to look at what 1037 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 2: Aaron Donald's getting. Because again you're making the argument that 1038 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 2: Jeff Simmons is a perennial Pro Bowl player. 1039 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:52,720 Speaker 3: He tackles. 1040 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 2: Jeff Simmons is a perennial Pro Bowl player who you 1041 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 2: build around on defense. Like it doesn't You're like, oh, 1042 00:40:58,400 --> 00:40:59,839 Speaker 2: he's not as good, blah bla blah, But that's still 1043 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 2: what you're gonna look to because that's what the market 1044 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,280 Speaker 2: is at for superior defensive tackles. 1045 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:07,839 Speaker 3: Four. 1046 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 2: See look, the drump from Aaron Donald down to number 1047 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 2: two is ten million dollars. Aaron Donald average per year 1048 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 2: is thirty one the fort one more year, one per year. 1049 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, so the Forest Buckner, it's like literally. 1050 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 2: Playing we're at the restaurant doing napkin math. It's like 1051 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 2: it looks like it could be like a twenty five 1052 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 2: a year thing. Literally just making that up. I'm sure 1053 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 2: people use it for headlines. 1054 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,240 Speaker 3: But franchise will get the average, right, You'll. 1055 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,359 Speaker 2: Get the average of the one I believe, right, Yeah, yeah, 1056 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 2: which is not bat That's what they were I mean, 1057 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 2: that's what. 1058 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 4: They were doing with Kirk Cousins. 1059 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 5: They would tag him every year, he would tag him 1060 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 5: every year, and then the QB market kept going up 1061 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 5: every year they make him money. 1062 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 3: He kept getting jumped like five mil. 1063 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,879 Speaker 2: Washington offered him three years seventy five million, fifty guaranteed loose. 1064 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,399 Speaker 4: That's not like exact, and Kirk was like, why would 1065 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:03,840 Speaker 4: I make that. 1066 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 2: I'm going to make fifty no matter what, I'm going 1067 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 2: to make more than that guaranteed just in the next 1068 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 2: two off my franchise tags exactly, So you got to 1069 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 2: come more correct than that. They played with him too much. 1070 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 2: He made it all the way to free agency. Three 1071 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,280 Speaker 2: teams had him at like north of ninety million dollars 1072 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 2: fully guaranteed, and then you end up going with Minnesota, 1073 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 2: probably with like taking all the financials involved with taxes 1074 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 2: and everything else. Kirk, yeah, yeah, yeah, how he ended 1075 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 2: up getting there because Jeff's looking at a fifth year 1076 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:30,800 Speaker 2: option two tags. 1077 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 3: I'm looking at. I was looking at those top three tackles. 1078 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 1: It was Aaron, Donald Buckner, and then Chris Jones, both 1079 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,320 Speaker 1: extremely talented. I wonder if statistically what the difference between 1080 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 1: those those three and Jeff is, because I know I 1081 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 1: from what I've seen from Aaron or what I've heard 1082 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 1: about Aaron is he didn't have like the best year 1083 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 1: this year compared to like his past time. 1084 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 3: All the rams went from super Bowl to five and twelve. 1085 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, so they obviously he didn't have he didn't have 1086 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,720 Speaker 1: a great year. But that's gonna be an uphill battle 1087 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 1: for Jeff if he wants to get above Aaron Donald 1088 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 1: right there, because it's such a crazy outlier. That's like 1089 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 1: Quenton Nelson for the Guards. He I think, is like 1090 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,919 Speaker 1: three four million dollars above the next highest paid guy. 1091 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 1: But how old is Jeff Jeff is fourth forty five 1092 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 1: years old. Man, Yeah, he's got it, and he's got he's. 1093 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 5: Got Aaron Donald's on that thirty one, Like imagine Jeff 1094 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,319 Speaker 5: at twenty seven, twenty eight. 1095 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, but then if I'm a GM and I'm just 1096 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:26,320 Speaker 1: gonna argue that point, Aaron Donald's a generational talent, generation generationals, 1097 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 1: multiple generations talent, and is arguably one of the best 1098 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,440 Speaker 1: in the world. I think at this point Aaron Donald, 1099 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 1: at this at Jeff's point in his career, Aaron Donald 1100 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 1: already had like might have already had a Defensive Play 1101 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,320 Speaker 1: of the Year or we had like four All Pros 1102 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: and he was like four time Pro Bowl he had hissme. 1103 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,360 Speaker 1: He his resume was just insane, and then it just 1104 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,360 Speaker 1: kept going Yeah, oh, it's like it's a hard argument. 1105 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 1: I hope Jeff gets that money. I'm just saying, like, 1106 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 1: I wonder where in his point if he's gonna think 1107 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 1: of it logically, And I think if he thought about 1108 00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,240 Speaker 1: it logically and sat down with himself and his agent, 1109 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,359 Speaker 1: and his agent was completely honest with him, as agent 1110 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 1: would say, you will be a top five pig guy. 1111 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 1: But I think it'll be more in the middle range 1112 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,360 Speaker 1: of the top five, like the three. This is me 1113 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 1: without any information trying to talk about this. I don't 1114 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,760 Speaker 1: know what the real market is other than the article 1115 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 1: we just looked at. But you're thinking like twenty to 1116 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: twenty five million dollars a year sounds like something he 1117 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:21,879 Speaker 1: would look at and logic you have to say, Okay, 1118 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 1: I'll play for that. 1119 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 2: A four year hundred Yeah, I would love to see 1120 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 2: him get three year whatever, fully guaranteed. 1121 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you could do that. 1122 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,440 Speaker 3: Trying to said tell like, we all want them, we 1123 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 3: all want one of those. 1124 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 4: He's one of those guys. 1125 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 2: It's like you want quarterbacks first, but you want top 1126 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 2: dogs at their positions commanding these fully guaranteed contracts. You 1127 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,399 Speaker 2: might sacrifice a little bit of the ceiling, but if 1128 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,320 Speaker 2: in the if in turn, you get three years of 1129 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 2: fully guaranteed deal and then you're seeing the market again 1130 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:48,239 Speaker 2: at twenty eight years old, Like. 1131 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 3: That's a good position to be in, right, great to 1132 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 3: be in. 1133 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 2: And you know again it's not you know, he can 1134 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,800 Speaker 2: look at Aaron Donald's and just think like that's a 1135 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,200 Speaker 2: marker for the market. It doesn't mean he thinks that's 1136 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 2: his floor. It doesn't doesn't mean anything other than like, hey, 1137 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,360 Speaker 2: a top guy at this position got thirty one he 1138 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 2: signed for last year. We're getting all this influx of money. 1139 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 2: Who knows what that looks like capwise. That's when it 1140 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:10,359 Speaker 2: comes on the agent. 1141 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,399 Speaker 3: Say if he goes a free agency, he sees that money, 1142 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 3: he goes to free agency, he'll see. 1143 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 2: A lot more than he would if he signs a 1144 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 2: year or two, or say he signed this offseason, Yeah, 1145 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,240 Speaker 2: you would see a lot more than he would because 1146 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,319 Speaker 2: you're you're giving up the ability to go to free 1147 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 2: agency to sign something ahead of time. If you're gonna 1148 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 2: work with the Titans on signing something early, then you're 1149 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,800 Speaker 2: gonna have to favor some things that go in the 1150 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 2: Titans way, because you that's ultimately what a hometown discount is. 1151 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, crazy to think twenty five million dollars a hometown discount, right, Yeah, 1152 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 1: those are. 1153 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 2: The cap situation I think got him at twenty five. 1154 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 2: It almost seemed like, oh, that's that could be seen 1155 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 2: as a win. Yeah, you get Jeff Simmons locked in 1156 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 2: long term a year before his deal's up. Now, it's 1157 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 2: like that would be on Jeff to think you, I think, 1158 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 2: do I believe I'd stay healthy my fifthy I'll ride 1159 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 2: this fifth year option out just because I know what 1160 00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 2: I'm gonna see. 1161 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, But looming over his head of those two franchise taps. Yeah, 1162 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 1: so you're looking at year seven in the league. Now 1163 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 1: he is twenty eight, right, he's twenty eight years old 1164 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,239 Speaker 1: playing Now he's getting a second contract, still gonna make 1165 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,319 Speaker 1: good money, right, Still a first round draft pick, Still 1166 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 1: been franchise tag twice. He probably wouldn't get franchise tag 1167 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,320 Speaker 1: toys because I think it's like top five over the 1168 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 1: whole league. Right, let's your position. I thought the first 1169 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,319 Speaker 1: franchise tag was at and then it levels up. 1170 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 5: No, I think then transition tag, but then the two 1171 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 5: franchise the next one first round picks a franchise You 1172 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,280 Speaker 5: again it just I think it goes up by a percentage, 1173 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,279 Speaker 5: like it has to be more than that, you than 1174 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 5: the one whatever. 1175 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 3: At There's a. 1176 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 1: Lot of things in the in the Titans feature that 1177 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,480 Speaker 1: they really got to figure out because, like I think, 1178 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,279 Speaker 1: I think I've said this on this podcast, I think 1179 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 1: Vrabel is one of the best coaches in the NFL. 1180 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 1: But eventually, like you've got to have talent to match 1181 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 1: that coaching as well, and it unfortunately showed this year 1182 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 1: because you look at the two let at least last 1183 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:53,880 Speaker 1: two years. 1184 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 3: Last year we had. 1185 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,440 Speaker 1: More injuries than we did this year, but last year 1186 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,759 Speaker 1: had more we ye we had the record. Yeah, last 1187 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 1: year we had more injuries and we were still the 1188 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,400 Speaker 1: number one seed in the AFC. But if you look 1189 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,799 Speaker 1: at what's the major difference between last year and this year, 1190 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,279 Speaker 1: If you look at the ir list, the guys that 1191 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 1: played last year are now the ones that I are 1192 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,719 Speaker 1: like your main guys other than Derrick Henry, who was 1193 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,160 Speaker 1: got hurt Week six of the season and was a 1194 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 1: rushing leader by three hundred yards at that point, Yeah, 1195 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,280 Speaker 1: would have in my mind, easily broken that two thousand 1196 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 1: rushing records. 1197 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:25,840 Speaker 3: He got what up to sixteen hundred. 1198 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,839 Speaker 5: Right, Oh, he didn't play week seventeen, which that you're 1199 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 5: talking about Derek last year? 1200 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,160 Speaker 3: Oh last year? This year, Yeah, I think he's around sixteen. 1201 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 3: What do you get? 1202 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 4: What do you get the other night? 1203 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 3: Get one hundred and twenty? 1204 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 2: I think yeah, I think he probably might have just 1205 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 2: got sixteen hundred. He was top man going into that 1206 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 2: last game. 1207 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think he's number two, right, Josh 1208 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:47,400 Speaker 3: Jacobs and him? 1209 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 4: Now Nick Chubb did Chubb was two, Derek was three. 1210 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:55,640 Speaker 1: He finished two man Urrican Chubb have some I have 1211 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 1: a weird whether they have a rivalry or not they 1212 00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,720 Speaker 1: have a rivalry. I think they have a little rivalry. 1213 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 1: Hubb is a beast to that beast bro around him, assassin. 1214 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 5: Is he really like that he's talk he doesn't talk 1215 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 5: like if you get if I mean, if you get 1216 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,759 Speaker 5: him outside the complex hanging out, he's hilarious. Like once 1217 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,320 Speaker 5: he stops starts talking, he's he'll be like the funniest 1218 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,200 Speaker 5: guy in the room. But like in the complex and 1219 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,720 Speaker 5: then on the field, you don't say a word. Business 1220 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,280 Speaker 5: And he scored. He like we were playing the Chargers 1221 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 5: this year. I'm blocked safety in the hole makes a 1222 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,359 Speaker 5: miss when it's like fifty yards for a touchdown, stiff 1223 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,840 Speaker 5: arms Khalil Mack on the goal line, just hands the 1224 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:31,880 Speaker 5: ball to the ref and walks off the field like 1225 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:32,760 Speaker 5: this guy's crazy. 1226 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 1: That's a cool that's a cool fucking deal. 1227 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,640 Speaker 2: And when Derek lost to Josh Jacobs, though I let 1228 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 2: the league in rushing and he was somebody they didn't 1229 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:42,680 Speaker 2: pick up his fifth. 1230 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,320 Speaker 3: Year eye no, so he went in a good tweet 1231 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 3: about that. 1232 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,759 Speaker 2: He went in this year with a massive chip on 1233 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,279 Speaker 2: his shoulder because from what I've heard, I don't know, 1234 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,239 Speaker 2: I haven't talked to Josh or anything, but from my 1235 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,279 Speaker 2: understanding is they were trying to shop him for like 1236 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,200 Speaker 2: a third round picking preseason, and he's aware. 1237 00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:56,880 Speaker 3: He was aware of that. 1238 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,399 Speaker 2: So him going out and leading the league in rushing, 1239 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,439 Speaker 2: he goes crazy, kind of like the big middle finger 1240 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 2: to everybody, like I'll fucking show you guys like that's 1241 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,399 Speaker 2: you love to see that, you hope it's like, don't 1242 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 2: take any fucking discount. It's like the mindset of Jeff, 1243 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 2: Like if Jeff's going into it like you know, then 1244 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,000 Speaker 2: I'll put I've sacrifice all this. You want to see 1245 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,320 Speaker 2: players get paid and not have all this stuff that 1246 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 2: they've used like against you and everything else. 1247 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 4: It's always like the pro pro player mentality. 1248 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:23,960 Speaker 2: It's like if he they didn't pick up his fifty 1249 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:25,360 Speaker 2: or they did pick up his fifty option and he 1250 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,759 Speaker 2: was pissed about it. It's almost like, how do you 1251 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,799 Speaker 2: navigate those words? Like Josh, he now gets to go taste. 1252 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,680 Speaker 4: Uh, running back. 1253 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 1: It's probably knowing in the NFL feeling better than Josh. 1254 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,960 Speaker 2: Right now, you've got to feel good about how the 1255 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 2: the year you just had, especially again led the league 1256 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,399 Speaker 2: in rushing on a roster where it seemed like every 1257 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,440 Speaker 2: position was talked about except the running back. 1258 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:47,960 Speaker 4: It's like, okay, we got to get running back, but 1259 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:48,439 Speaker 4: we got. 1260 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 2: The dog Derek Carr with DeVante Adams, Darren Waller on 1261 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,920 Speaker 2: a renfo all those boys, and then you kind of, 1262 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:55,799 Speaker 2: you know, Josh was kind of an Actressut they don't 1263 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,240 Speaker 2: pick up his option, It's like, all right, birds to everybody, 1264 00:49:58,239 --> 00:49:59,720 Speaker 2: I'm about to lead the league in rushing. 1265 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:01,120 Speaker 3: That's crazy. 1266 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, the the Raiders are by far the most underachieving 1267 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:05,400 Speaker 1: team in the NFL this year. 1268 00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:06,160 Speaker 4: Oh for sure. 1269 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,920 Speaker 1: I mean Titans are kind of there too, right, So 1270 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:10,560 Speaker 1: they had a bunch of injuries to hang their hat 1271 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 1: on its insurance. 1272 00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:13,759 Speaker 2: Not everyone, Like a lot of people were saying talking 1273 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,920 Speaker 2: about the Raiders competing for the Super Bowl. When get there, 1274 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,479 Speaker 2: I said, my hot take was the Chiefs weren't gonna 1275 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:22,280 Speaker 2: make the playoffs. 1276 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,600 Speaker 4: I was obviously very wrong about that, but it was 1277 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 4: a tough. 1278 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,719 Speaker 2: But again there's there's bias, like I'm rocking with the 1279 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,920 Speaker 2: boys in silver and black, dude, and I thought this 1280 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 2: was gonna be the year and. 1281 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 4: It'll be the coolest uniforms in you don't you know? 1282 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,359 Speaker 2: I still want what like five and three I feel 1283 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 2: like on the year picking the division winners, I think 1284 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:41,320 Speaker 2: like to see a better ratio. 1285 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 3: However, I had one more if Saturday worked out a 1286 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 3: little bit better. 1287 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:47,480 Speaker 4: I know Titans were one. 1288 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,440 Speaker 2: Titans were one that I picked, And there was a 1289 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,280 Speaker 2: part of me too that was thinking about picking Jaguars 1290 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:53,080 Speaker 2: at the beginning of the year, and. 1291 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:53,960 Speaker 4: I was like, I can't do that. 1292 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that would have pissed me off, right, yeah, because 1293 00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,680 Speaker 1: who were talking about how would have pissed me off? 1294 00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 4: Peter seeing justin Lawrence. We stayed out on this. 1295 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,359 Speaker 1: Podcast though for those of you think we just joke 1296 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,840 Speaker 1: around on this podcast, we legit have said Jacksonville is 1297 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,840 Speaker 1: a good football team, they just need a good coach. 1298 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:09,800 Speaker 3: You're welcome. 1299 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 5: We said that first when they've had they had like 1300 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:13,759 Speaker 5: three straight number one picks. 1301 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,759 Speaker 1: Like I know, they really have just like holstered in 1302 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:16,160 Speaker 1: their shit. 1303 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:16,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1304 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 2: I feel like Doug Peterson probably was a big help 1305 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:20,439 Speaker 2: like him going there for sure. 1306 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:20,799 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1307 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,880 Speaker 1: Organization dude, Yeah, with the boys pushing the cart in 1308 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 1: the same direction. 1309 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,880 Speaker 4: What since we're talking about mindsets too. 1310 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,520 Speaker 2: In the season abruptly ins like where where does where 1311 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:30,360 Speaker 2: does the headspace go? 1312 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:31,960 Speaker 4: For somebody like you in your position? 1313 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:33,960 Speaker 2: Again, you come in the last three weeks of the year, 1314 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,440 Speaker 2: season's over, you see the look on everybody's face like 1315 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:40,200 Speaker 2: you're not as acclimated, and it's into all the buying 1316 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,000 Speaker 2: that the Titans did all year long for to be like, 1317 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:43,840 Speaker 2: fuck man, we didn't get it. What's it like for 1318 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,480 Speaker 2: you now going into the off season. 1319 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean when it abruptly ends, I mean it's 1320 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:52,880 Speaker 5: just stuck. But you just like you navigate those emotions obviously, 1321 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 5: I can media you are Okay, Shoot, where am I 1322 00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:55,279 Speaker 5: going to be next year? 1323 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:56,080 Speaker 3: I Am I not going to be back here? 1324 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,080 Speaker 5: I'm gonna be somewhere else where am I about to 1325 00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,960 Speaker 5: live for the off season? Is my apartment even still 1326 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:02,000 Speaker 5: a thing in Cleveland? 1327 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 6: You know? 1328 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,000 Speaker 3: So just like working through it all. So yeah, I 1329 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,360 Speaker 3: want to be back in Tennessee. 1330 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 5: Had good exit meetings, so we'll see how kind of 1331 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,120 Speaker 5: like free agency for me shakes out. 1332 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:11,200 Speaker 3: But hopefully it's back here. 1333 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,160 Speaker 4: So you if you you're wishless, would be Tennessee, Yeah 1334 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 4: for sure, Tennessee. 1335 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:15,799 Speaker 3: Boy, for sure. 1336 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,120 Speaker 5: I mean I'm front not from Tennessee, but played at Tennessee. 1337 00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:23,520 Speaker 5: Loved Nashville, Nashville Rips National's. 1338 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,960 Speaker 3: Dope in the state is like seems like they're root 1339 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:25,640 Speaker 3: for you hard for. 1340 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,320 Speaker 5: Sure, and like I've enjoyed my time in the complex, 1341 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,520 Speaker 5: Like the guys are cool, even though I got to 1342 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,720 Speaker 5: cross paths with him a couple of times, but everyone's 1343 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,200 Speaker 5: everyone's pretty cool in the complex. 1344 00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:36,080 Speaker 3: So it's been cool. 1345 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:42,359 Speaker 1: The I wonder from the outside looking at like if 1346 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:43,880 Speaker 1: I was Since I've been on IR since week two, 1347 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,840 Speaker 1: I've like turned myself into a fan obviously, and watching 1348 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:51,120 Speaker 1: Malik the first few weeks obviously it was it was tough, right, 1349 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:55,160 Speaker 1: like it's I think he had eighty eight yards passing 1350 00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,840 Speaker 1: in the last game before you started, and when you 1351 00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,480 Speaker 1: came in, it was like damn, like here out there 1352 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,960 Speaker 1: slinging that thing, and then everything like gets in your 1353 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,600 Speaker 1: head like damn, like dude, been for five days, he's 1354 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,239 Speaker 1: done that, Like he's been able to do this at 1355 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,960 Speaker 1: this time, Like you actually in a time where there 1356 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:10,239 Speaker 1: was no. 1357 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:11,000 Speaker 3: Hope for Tennessee. 1358 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,759 Speaker 1: You look, he gave the boys hope and I thought 1359 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,320 Speaker 1: Saturday you were going to go in there and it 1360 00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:16,120 Speaker 1: was gonna work out. 1361 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:17,320 Speaker 3: He has had it. 1362 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,000 Speaker 1: We'll get into that game because I really, I really 1363 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,719 Speaker 1: do want to talk about that, But what is a 1364 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,919 Speaker 1: what what was it like with Malik? Because knowing Malie 1365 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,200 Speaker 1: for the short time I did obviously during Camp OTA's 1366 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:31,440 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, Uh, get very charismatic, very energetic. 1367 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:32,200 Speaker 3: Great dude. 1368 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,279 Speaker 1: You just wonder if, like, is he a guy that 1369 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,239 Speaker 1: can develop into something that people thought he was going 1370 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,040 Speaker 1: to be when they're coming of Liberty before the draft 1371 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,200 Speaker 1: saying he could be a top ten pick, or is 1372 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:42,920 Speaker 1: this one of those things where it just is not 1373 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:44,399 Speaker 1: It's not going to work out and that's no shot 1374 00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,560 Speaker 1: at Malik. That's more just like wondering, I guess, like 1375 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:50,720 Speaker 1: does he have it, and that's not for you to answer. 1376 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,759 Speaker 1: My My question for you is like, how was the 1377 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,759 Speaker 1: process between you two and like you quick coming in, 1378 00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:56,799 Speaker 1: quickly changing. 1379 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,200 Speaker 5: In the guard, you know, it was good. I mean 1380 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,680 Speaker 5: it was smooth, as smooth as it can be. Yeah, 1381 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,400 Speaker 5: you know, I know obviously, you know, being his his 1382 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,480 Speaker 5: position is probably was tough on him. And I know 1383 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,280 Speaker 5: he would love to be out there too, playing competing. 1384 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,200 Speaker 5: But as you said, Malik is a great dude. And 1385 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,239 Speaker 5: so Malik and I we trained with the same guy 1386 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,000 Speaker 5: in Atlanta, so I met him this last offseason. Actually 1387 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,759 Speaker 5: I was getting ready for the draft and stuff, just 1388 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:23,399 Speaker 5: in QB training and it's a small circle. So yeah, 1389 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:24,840 Speaker 5: I mean he was still the same guy throughout the 1390 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,680 Speaker 5: whole process, extremely positive with the players, being a great 1391 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,759 Speaker 5: teammate who was great to me and helping me just 1392 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,120 Speaker 5: get acclimated, and then like little things that quarterback and hey, 1393 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,279 Speaker 5: what's the cadence? Was the reminder to the O line, 1394 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,479 Speaker 5: what's the communication the huddle? Just how have you guys 1395 00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,440 Speaker 5: done it? Just to make sure we're smooth on everyone. 1396 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:41,040 Speaker 3: He was awesome. 1397 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,400 Speaker 5: So, I mean, playing quarterback in the NFL is not 1398 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,280 Speaker 5: the easiest profession, and it takes time to learn. 1399 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:48,239 Speaker 3: How to do it. Took me time. 1400 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,560 Speaker 5: I've had a lot of reps, even though i haven't 1401 00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,160 Speaker 5: played a lot, so I've had a lot of reps 1402 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:53,840 Speaker 5: at doing it and watching guys do it at a 1403 00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,080 Speaker 5: high level. And so Malik will probably be the same process. 1404 00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,600 Speaker 5: But he seems like he worked really hard, he wants, 1405 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:04,040 Speaker 5: he wants to be successful. I think it starts there, 1406 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:06,640 Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm excited to see how he comes back 1407 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:07,240 Speaker 5: this offseason. 1408 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,640 Speaker 2: Being a VET, if you were to give advice to 1409 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,920 Speaker 2: a young rookie quarterback, obviously I'm saying Molik in the situation, 1410 00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,600 Speaker 2: if you're you were to give advice to a rookie 1411 00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,840 Speaker 2: quarterback going into their first offseason, what would it be. 1412 00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 4: I'm looking at your career. 1413 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,399 Speaker 5: Now, Yeah, I would say one, just like, take a breath, 1414 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,839 Speaker 5: as we know that first off season. You've been going 1415 00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,080 Speaker 5: for a year and a half straight from the start 1416 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,200 Speaker 5: of your senior year, So take a time just to 1417 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,840 Speaker 5: take a breath and realize like how important football is 1418 00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,560 Speaker 5: to you, but also what other interests you have out 1419 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,480 Speaker 5: there just as a human being, and just take a 1420 00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,760 Speaker 5: step back and then from there, like February comes around. 1421 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,799 Speaker 5: Then craft your plan of hey, what are the five 1422 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,160 Speaker 5: things I want to get better at between now and OTAs, 1423 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,680 Speaker 5: and work hard every day at those those things, whether 1424 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:53,480 Speaker 5: it's something in the in the playbook, whether it's footwork 1425 00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,160 Speaker 5: on the field, whether it's one throw you're trying to master, 1426 00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:01,239 Speaker 5: but just find that rhythm, routine, consistency, see, because then 1427 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:02,960 Speaker 5: if you find that, then once you go to OTAs, 1428 00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,520 Speaker 5: you can take that same process and then use it 1429 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:06,960 Speaker 5: all the way until the season. 1430 00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,520 Speaker 3: So that's I mean, that's my biggest avice. That's what 1431 00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:10,400 Speaker 3: I did for myself. 1432 00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,080 Speaker 5: It took a step back, took a took a breath, 1433 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,080 Speaker 5: figured out what I want to improve on, and then 1434 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:16,000 Speaker 5: just went from there. 1435 00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,360 Speaker 2: Question for both of you guys, is there anything you 1436 00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,520 Speaker 2: guys look back on you issued a new at a 1437 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,200 Speaker 2: younger age, like when you are navigating the first off seasons, 1438 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,160 Speaker 2: Because I feel like a lot of guys get excited, right, 1439 00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,160 Speaker 2: they can travel, they can do a little bit more. 1440 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,480 Speaker 2: And I'm hearing you say like good stuff, and I'm thinking, 1441 00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,279 Speaker 2: like I'm on that because it's like we can all 1442 00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:34,520 Speaker 2: sit here and talk about I know you both have 1443 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,840 Speaker 2: knowledge on it, but how crucial routine process. All that 1444 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:39,720 Speaker 2: stuff is if you're trying to be a better NFL 1445 00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,120 Speaker 2: football player at your position. 1446 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:41,840 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1447 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,239 Speaker 5: I think like the people always say, like, don't take breaks, 1448 00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:46,959 Speaker 5: So I feel like the break is really what helps 1449 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:51,480 Speaker 5: you come back more uh more energized to work hard. 1450 00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,560 Speaker 5: You know, Like taking it sucks when you're done the 1451 00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,840 Speaker 5: first week of January. So taking the month just to 1452 00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,480 Speaker 5: decompress from the emotions of the season, whether you're in 1453 00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,680 Speaker 5: one spot the whole year starting or you weren't, or 1454 00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,080 Speaker 5: you were in three different spots like myself, just taking 1455 00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:08,279 Speaker 5: that time to decompress is so powerful, just mentally. And 1456 00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,960 Speaker 5: then when February comes, you watch the Super Bowl, You're like, 1457 00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:12,880 Speaker 5: that's my goal. I want to be there. And then 1458 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,120 Speaker 5: the next week you just work hard, yeah, you know, 1459 00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:16,320 Speaker 5: and just get right back at it. 1460 00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, what would you say. I think the break is 1461 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,160 Speaker 1: a huge thing. My first couple of years, I like 1462 00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,000 Speaker 1: didn't take a break. I was like, when people are resting, 1463 00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:25,520 Speaker 1: this is when I'm gonna I'm gonna get them. 1464 00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:27,400 Speaker 3: And then you kind of realize that. 1465 00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,120 Speaker 1: You get into like late November December and you're like, 1466 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,480 Speaker 1: damn tired, kind of burnt down. You don't really know 1467 00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,000 Speaker 1: why you don't like put that into in your head 1468 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,840 Speaker 1: of like, oh, you have been working since forever, like 1469 00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:38,800 Speaker 1: since your senior year, and now you're in your second year. 1470 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,600 Speaker 1: And so the when I saw the biggest jump from 1471 00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,760 Speaker 1: my success was week year two to year three. And 1472 00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:46,440 Speaker 1: that's when I actually took the longest break I did, 1473 00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,280 Speaker 1: which was like, I think we didn't make the playoffs obviously, 1474 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,400 Speaker 1: and then I took like three or four weeks like 1475 00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,000 Speaker 1: first of February, when I was like, all right, this 1476 00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,760 Speaker 1: is when we start, and it's like it's very rejuvenating. 1477 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:57,600 Speaker 1: You get to like get back to neutral a little 1478 00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,200 Speaker 1: bit because you're drained, dude. The end of the season 1479 00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:04,320 Speaker 1: is so draining. Everything hurts always, and you're just like thinking, like, damn, 1480 00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,560 Speaker 1: I'm having to make it to this next game, right, 1481 00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,000 Speaker 1: you know, like little things because when you're out of it, 1482 00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:10,880 Speaker 1: like I've been out of it for so like for 1483 00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,760 Speaker 1: so long, relatively since week two. I don't have any 1484 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,920 Speaker 1: pain in my body, Like my neck doesn't hurt, but 1485 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,680 Speaker 1: I remember being like, damn I ever felt every time 1486 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,800 Speaker 1: my head touches something, I get a stinger like or 1487 00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:23,720 Speaker 1: like my ankle or whatever, and you're like, damn, this 1488 00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,240 Speaker 1: is just awful, and so you kind of forget what 1489 00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,040 Speaker 1: it feels like, and that's you're like just ready to 1490 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,200 Speaker 1: get back into it. But if you don't take that break, 1491 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:35,120 Speaker 1: then you're screwed. You kind of you put yourself in 1492 00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,680 Speaker 1: a in a deficit, like the return on investment no 1493 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,120 Speaker 1: longer is there for you anymore after if you just 1494 00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,040 Speaker 1: keep going the whole time, you just get burnt out right. 1495 00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,520 Speaker 1: And also, I partied a whole bunch out for my 1496 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:49,280 Speaker 1: rookie years, So you're parting the shiploading I was out 1497 00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:51,240 Speaker 1: in Arizona. I feel like that stuff happens. 1498 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,640 Speaker 2: That's almost why, Like, you know why, I wanted to 1499 00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:55,840 Speaker 2: like raise the question in case they're having to beat. 1500 00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:57,480 Speaker 4: There are a lot of Tier one rookies out there. 1501 00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:58,600 Speaker 4: They're probably listening to this podcast. 1502 00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:00,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're if you're a rookie, and you were 1503 00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,920 Speaker 1: you were a drafted rookie, like a top three round 1504 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,520 Speaker 1: draft pick, like there is, you finished the season and 1505 00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:06,960 Speaker 1: you're like, damn, I can't believe the season is over. 1506 00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,479 Speaker 1: But then in that same thought process, you're like, holy fuck, 1507 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:11,120 Speaker 1: I got all this money. 1508 00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:13,320 Speaker 3: I got all this time. You know what I'm saying. 1509 00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:15,600 Speaker 3: You know, if you ever had. 1510 00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,640 Speaker 2: Money, like like we too all the time, or you 1511 00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,280 Speaker 2: didn't just have the season, but you like, like you 1512 00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:21,160 Speaker 2: were talking, you're training for the combine. You're going to Yeah, 1513 00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,000 Speaker 2: you're doing all the bells and everything. You're you're pretty 1514 00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,520 Speaker 2: much shot, You're anything. 1515 00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. Then you get done and yes, dam I got 1516 00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:31,560 Speaker 3: a bank, a big account. Money in the world, in 1517 00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:31,840 Speaker 3: the world. 1518 00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,320 Speaker 1: What you want, you want, bro, the most embarrassing thing 1519 00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,520 Speaker 1: that's ever happened to me, or like that. I look 1520 00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,919 Speaker 1: back and I just go ooh, fuck, dude, that was tough. 1521 00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,600 Speaker 1: My rookie year. After my rookie year, the Super Bowls 1522 00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,840 Speaker 1: in Arizona, and I'm from Arizona for those of you 1523 00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,200 Speaker 1: listening who don't know, I go back. I go to 1524 00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,000 Speaker 1: old town Scottsdale and it's a great spot. I'm a 1525 00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:53,600 Speaker 1: Cave Creek guy, like I'm more of like a small 1526 00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:55,800 Speaker 1: town kid. But I'm like, I'm fucking showing that ship off. 1527 00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,080 Speaker 1: I get the table. I go to l Hafe. A 1528 00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,680 Speaker 1: couple of girls from high school show up. Why because 1529 01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:02,720 Speaker 1: they got to see they got to see that your 1530 01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:03,880 Speaker 1: boys made it a little bit. 1531 01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:04,480 Speaker 2: Bro. 1532 01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:06,200 Speaker 1: This girl I had like a bunch of money in 1533 01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,640 Speaker 1: my uh in my pocket, like a bunch of twenties. 1534 01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:12,480 Speaker 3: This girl like in the air. I'm like, I'm really him, 1535 01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:13,840 Speaker 3: look at this money flying through the air. 1536 01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,800 Speaker 1: Thinking to myself like that, like not realizing that you'll 1537 01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:18,800 Speaker 1: be a fucking idiot right now, dude, go on a 1538 01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:20,200 Speaker 1: bender for four days straight. 1539 01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:23,480 Speaker 3: It was embarrassing. It was fucking tough. 1540 01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:25,480 Speaker 1: Dude. You get out of that little four day piece 1541 01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,880 Speaker 1: and you're like, I haven't really slept. I've been acting 1542 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,560 Speaker 1: like a fucking idiot. I've been doing a lot of extracurriculars. 1543 01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:33,480 Speaker 1: It was a fucking tough gig for me, and it 1544 01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,320 Speaker 1: was really like a come to Jesus moment, Like mister 1545 01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,080 Speaker 1: A came and picked me up. It's a random apartment complex, 1546 01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,200 Speaker 1: wearing the same outfit I was wearing four days before, 1547 01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:42,360 Speaker 1: but the buttons on the shirt were like wrong. 1548 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:44,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, he has a picture of me. 1549 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:46,920 Speaker 1: He literally says, it's the most disappointed I've ever been 1550 01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,959 Speaker 1: in You was that I slept like eighteen hours. Literally 1551 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,200 Speaker 1: went to a small coma like just to say it 1552 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,360 Speaker 1: was just bad. I haven't parted like that since. Yeah, 1553 01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,600 Speaker 1: I needed that. I needed that that's hilarious. 1554 01:00:58,640 --> 01:00:59,240 Speaker 3: I don't do that. 1555 01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:01,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, so don't learn from me. 1556 01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:02,960 Speaker 3: Don't do that, ship dude. 1557 01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,880 Speaker 1: It's cooler to pretend like you don't have money. 1558 01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:07,840 Speaker 2: It's good that you said all those things too, because 1559 01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:09,480 Speaker 2: I feel like every all every. 1560 01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:11,720 Speaker 4: I'm embarrassed. 1561 01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:17,080 Speaker 1: In a little bit, I was being an idiot, damn idiot. Yeah, 1562 01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:18,720 Speaker 1: there's more, but I don't know if I want to 1563 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,080 Speaker 1: go into it, but not to go another time. 1564 01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:23,439 Speaker 4: What should we transition into next? 1565 01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:27,120 Speaker 3: Let's talk about the Jaguars Titans game. We watched the 1566 01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:27,680 Speaker 3: game together. 1567 01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,520 Speaker 1: Obviously it didn't go the way we wanted, but there 1568 01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,080 Speaker 1: are two plays that stick out in my head that 1569 01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:38,520 Speaker 1: we can go over. One is what the fuck was 1570 01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:41,080 Speaker 1: Trailing Burke's doing when he tossed that ball over his head? 1571 01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,479 Speaker 1: What was that a cold play? Okay, thank god, because 1572 01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:45,160 Speaker 1: I literally. 1573 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:52,000 Speaker 3: Thought, like, there's no way it's done that, Like, that's 1574 01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:54,640 Speaker 3: not in the playbook. What the fuck is that put that? 1575 01:01:54,800 --> 01:02:00,640 Speaker 5: We put that in on Friday? Whatever Friday is for Thursday. Well, 1576 01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,680 Speaker 5: we were expected its like third and fifteen. They usually 1577 01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,960 Speaker 5: play like a little off zone coverage. Yeah, we thought 1578 01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,320 Speaker 5: we're gonna throw it the trailing on a slant and 1579 01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,040 Speaker 5: then they're going to rally to just tackle and then 1580 01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:12,400 Speaker 5: he's gonna throw it to the back, and we ran 1581 01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:13,400 Speaker 5: in and practice against. 1582 01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,520 Speaker 3: The defense and it worked perfectly. Really it was. It 1583 01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:17,160 Speaker 3: was like third and seventeen. 1584 01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,000 Speaker 5: Threw at the trailing, he threw it to the back 1585 01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,560 Speaker 5: and he got like thirty yards right, all right, all 1586 01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,040 Speaker 5: bet might as well try it. Yeah, just lost that 1587 01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,840 Speaker 5: ship up in the air, dude. I was almost to 1588 01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,280 Speaker 5: it almost when you hold it, though. I was surprised. 1589 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,560 Speaker 5: I thought it was going to be like later in 1590 01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:36,040 Speaker 5: the game, I have it, like all right, we need something. 1591 01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:40,240 Speaker 5: But that was like the second, first quarter, like the quarter, third, 1592 01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:41,160 Speaker 5: third down of the game. 1593 01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:44,080 Speaker 1: Fucking Michigan running the Philly Special against TCU in the 1594 01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:45,280 Speaker 1: first quarter on the first drive. 1595 01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:47,400 Speaker 3: What are y'all doing? Yeah? 1596 01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:49,600 Speaker 4: Like late, like late the game? 1597 01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:50,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead. 1598 01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:52,000 Speaker 1: It was a late game call, yeah, for sure, Like 1599 01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:53,920 Speaker 1: going off that like when you get a call in 1600 01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:55,920 Speaker 1: your headset and you know the call before you tell 1601 01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:57,120 Speaker 1: the boys, You're like, hey. 1602 01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:58,360 Speaker 3: What the fuck. 1603 01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:02,560 Speaker 1: If I'm the quarterback and they're like, yeah, do the 1604 01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:04,560 Speaker 1: fun I don't want to play. What's the play called? Uh? 1605 01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:08,840 Speaker 3: It's called uh? Like tracks like a razorback for Trailing. 1606 01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:13,960 Speaker 1: Razorback and you're in your head like, holy fuck, what 1607 01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:14,640 Speaker 1: what was the. 1608 01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:14,960 Speaker 7: D and D? 1609 01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,720 Speaker 5: So I was starting fifteen and we're in field goal range. 1610 01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,200 Speaker 5: I'm literally just stereing on the trailer. Be smart, like, 1611 01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,000 Speaker 5: don't don't do anything stupid. 1612 01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:23,680 Speaker 3: I don't throw it. 1613 01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,040 Speaker 5: Don't throw it like way back they get the ball, 1614 01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:27,960 Speaker 5: like because we got points and we're about to start 1615 01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:29,640 Speaker 5: off this game on the road with points and we 1616 01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,120 Speaker 5: need we need these points. So don't say don't do 1617 01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:35,080 Speaker 5: anything dumb. And the crazy thing was it worked. It 1618 01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:38,320 Speaker 5: just wasn't backwards like it was literally like to really taught. 1619 01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,040 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I can't believe he played like that 1620 01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:46,160 Speaker 3: all he's falling down, dude, I remember watch throw it 1621 01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:46,560 Speaker 3: through it. 1622 01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:49,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know how he got that off really either. 1623 01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,960 Speaker 1: No, just looking into Trailing's eyes before the crystal green eyes. 1624 01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,720 Speaker 3: Situation, don't do something stupid, He's like green eyes and 1625 01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:57,840 Speaker 3: the ice said, yeah, you got it or bet or 1626 01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:59,760 Speaker 3: something he said, and he caught that guy and as 1627 01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:03,080 Speaker 3: his guys, this is the perfect time. Throw this fucking 1628 01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:03,680 Speaker 3: ball in the air. 1629 01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:07,320 Speaker 4: Dude, is a movie, you know, a movie scene was 1630 01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:08,880 Speaker 4: going on I'm about to be the hero. 1631 01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:12,360 Speaker 1: Yes for a first down in the first quarter, first port. 1632 01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:16,960 Speaker 1: I know, questionable call, questionable, questionable situation for you. Let's 1633 01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:20,800 Speaker 1: just say hypothetically, it's fourth and thirteen. Defense is in 1634 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,640 Speaker 1: a loose cover three at the sticks. I'm gonna give 1635 01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:25,840 Speaker 1: you an empty set. I'm gonna go three routes curled 1636 01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,439 Speaker 1: up at the sticks. They can get the first down. 1637 01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:30,040 Speaker 1: We put the ball on the money, and I'm gonna 1638 01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,040 Speaker 1: give you two checkdowns. Where are you going with the football? 1639 01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:37,120 Speaker 3: Probably should throw it past the sticky? So I was 1640 01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:38,960 Speaker 3: so hot. I was so hot on my soul. 1641 01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:42,800 Speaker 2: Bro, everybody gets the extra playoff check trainers are getting 1642 01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:43,560 Speaker 2: an extra bullet. 1643 01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,960 Speaker 3: You got everything on the line. You going to the sticks, 1644 01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:52,280 Speaker 3: You're going check down. Probably sticks hindsight, I'll put it, 1645 01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:53,919 Speaker 3: I'll put it. I'll put it on me. It's straight. 1646 01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:56,600 Speaker 1: When you get that ball, I was like, oh cool, 1647 01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,000 Speaker 1: they're doing another one of those plays. 1648 01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:05,640 Speaker 3: Throw a ball and running bowling down like thing. I 1649 01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,000 Speaker 3: was so hot. So did you know it was third down? 1650 01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:08,440 Speaker 4: Fourth down? 1651 01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:10,920 Speaker 3: You sure? Yeah? I promise, I promise. 1652 01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:14,000 Speaker 5: I'm not trying to be dispebbled. I guess that's hard. 1653 01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:15,760 Speaker 5: That has happened, So I knew it was fourth down. 1654 01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:18,760 Speaker 5: I knew what covers they're in. It's literally like it's 1655 01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:20,480 Speaker 5: called three week by. So I mean they're standing at 1656 01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:22,080 Speaker 5: the sticks and they're standing like right where the guys 1657 01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,200 Speaker 5: are running. I told like, hey, find try to find 1658 01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,480 Speaker 5: a window and everything. I was like, I'm gonna stare 1659 01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:27,960 Speaker 5: at the guy over the ball. I'm gonna try to 1660 01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:29,880 Speaker 5: pull as many people to him as I can and 1661 01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:31,960 Speaker 5: try to rip it the trailing into the boundary. 1662 01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:33,120 Speaker 3: So I caught it. 1663 01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,360 Speaker 5: Nick Westburgh runs with chains route and there's like four 1664 01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:39,400 Speaker 5: guys standing there. And then I looked right and there's 1665 01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:42,800 Speaker 5: like two guys standing right next to trailing like trailing. 1666 01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:44,400 Speaker 5: One dude was right in front of him in the 1667 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:48,160 Speaker 5: corner like touching shoulders, and then Woody like the safety 1668 01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,800 Speaker 5: standing in front of him. So I'm like, the worst 1669 01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:52,120 Speaker 5: there I canna do right now is take a sat 1670 01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:54,400 Speaker 5: And then like it was literally as I was saying 1671 01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,600 Speaker 5: that and I was about to start scrambling, it was 1672 01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,400 Speaker 5: just out of reaction, like hassan just flashing in front 1673 01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:01,840 Speaker 5: of my face. I threw it right through it. I 1674 01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:05,920 Speaker 5: was like, come back, Yeah, So no, I won't suck 1675 01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,320 Speaker 5: like one you just replay in your head, You're like, motherfucker, 1676 01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,160 Speaker 5: why did I throw that? So you for sure you're 1677 01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,040 Speaker 5: you're thinking like every rep in your head. I'm sure 1678 01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:15,960 Speaker 5: you're like every repucking matters, like the resume of starting 1679 01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,080 Speaker 5: right here, yeah, you know, and just like the situational place, 1680 01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:19,440 Speaker 5: like that's one thing from the first game. I was like, 1681 01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:21,240 Speaker 5: all right, let's be better. Let's be a better situation, 1682 01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,600 Speaker 5: which like outside of that situation the whole game, I mean, 1683 01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,320 Speaker 5: we were moving the ball and verting third and long 1684 01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:29,160 Speaker 5: it's like two big fourth downs, so we were much 1685 01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:33,000 Speaker 5: better situationally throughout the game. But yeah, in that play, 1686 01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:35,600 Speaker 5: was like, you know, just just give someone a chance. 1687 01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:37,080 Speaker 5: And I was thinking, like a couple of third downs, 1688 01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:39,040 Speaker 5: like yo, this is a huge third down, like to 1689 01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:40,960 Speaker 5: stay on the field at that play, Like the play 1690 01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:42,520 Speaker 5: before it, I was like, all right, let's make it 1691 01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:44,560 Speaker 5: as the manageable of a fourth down as I can. 1692 01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:46,320 Speaker 5: That's why I threw the checkout too aus Son to 1693 01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,280 Speaker 5: play before it. But yeah, you flashed it from my 1694 01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:48,720 Speaker 5: face on. 1695 01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,440 Speaker 1: And it was a false start before right hoop fall started. 1696 01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:55,840 Speaker 5: All started. They flinched you fall started. I mean they're 1697 01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:59,280 Speaker 5: they're I mean, their front is so talented. Not really, 1698 01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:02,200 Speaker 5: so we're trying to do everything we can to slow 1699 01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:02,560 Speaker 5: him down. 1700 01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:03,560 Speaker 4: It might have gotten better. 1701 01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:05,680 Speaker 3: I think they got better. I'll tell you what. 1702 01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:07,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if Josh Allen's gotten better, but he's 1703 01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,480 Speaker 1: gotten a lot cooler looking on the field, he does 1704 01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:12,320 Speaker 1: look dark visor everything with the sea on the chest, 1705 01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:12,959 Speaker 1: he looks. 1706 01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:14,080 Speaker 3: He does look cool. 1707 01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:16,200 Speaker 1: He's got that perfect like Buill like, oh, that dude 1708 01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:16,680 Speaker 1: is a dog. 1709 01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:19,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you look you look over there like 1710 01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,400 Speaker 5: even like like Travan Walker, like he can probably like 1711 01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:24,920 Speaker 5: get some cooler sock swag, but like you'll get it. 1712 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,040 Speaker 3: He's a rookie, Like, yeah, everyone has the time the 1713 01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:32,360 Speaker 3: rookie you're like whatever that Yeah, but whatever your way. 1714 01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:34,040 Speaker 2: If you're trying to look cool, you're gonna get clowned 1715 01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:35,760 Speaker 2: on for that. If you're not doing enough, you're gonna 1716 01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:36,440 Speaker 2: get clowned on for that. 1717 01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:38,960 Speaker 5: Man, they looked the part you get out there, like 1718 01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:40,920 Speaker 5: the first thing you do, like especially at quarterback, you 1719 01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:42,920 Speaker 5: kind of size up everyone on the field and you 1720 01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:43,760 Speaker 5: look at their line. 1721 01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:46,720 Speaker 3: They got some guys over there. 1722 01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:48,440 Speaker 4: Now, hey, guys, I need you to hold up a 1723 01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:50,520 Speaker 4: little bit, but not more than Dallas. 1724 01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:52,720 Speaker 5: Your first start, Dallas was the same way Dallas was 1725 01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:56,200 Speaker 5: crazy because you looked at the line. You're like Marcus Lawrence, 1726 01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:58,920 Speaker 5: like heard a lot about him, Yeah, And you look 1727 01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:00,880 Speaker 5: over there, like there's Michael Parson, He's really good. And 1728 01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,560 Speaker 5: then you look at their cornerbacks and they're like taller 1729 01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:06,600 Speaker 5: than me, right, and their arms are down to their knees, 1730 01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:09,920 Speaker 5: like when I can throw a go ball on that guy, 1731 01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:12,400 Speaker 5: he's as tall as the receiver. So you like size 1732 01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:15,440 Speaker 5: up everyone. They have a large, very large defense, very 1733 01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:18,360 Speaker 5: large defense on my LEFTMO. 1734 01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:21,320 Speaker 3: It's all good. Pause. 1735 01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:23,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a no pause podcast. 1736 01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:25,600 Speaker 2: If you're sitting there when you're when I'm sure you 1737 01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:26,880 Speaker 2: looked at the play a million times? 1738 01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,040 Speaker 4: What are you wishing you just did slightly different? 1739 01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:31,760 Speaker 1: Are just scrambled? You know, let someone work for you? 1740 01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:33,719 Speaker 3: Were you under the rest? Do you have that play? 1741 01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:36,200 Speaker 3: I can't remember if you there was pressure or not. 1742 01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:39,680 Speaker 5: I think the play before I had pressure pressure like 1743 01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,840 Speaker 5: a couple for a couple of plays. So or just scrambled, 1744 01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:44,760 Speaker 5: get someone a chance work or scrambled drill? 1745 01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:48,719 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, damn, yeah. 1746 01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:50,320 Speaker 4: Damn, I know, bro. 1747 01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:53,559 Speaker 2: We were dialed in. We were watching no fired up. 1748 01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:56,040 Speaker 2: We were fired up. I really thought that reminds me. 1749 01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:59,559 Speaker 2: Go ahead, finish your thought. Were you talking about the turnover? Yeah, 1750 01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,080 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, what's your thoughts on that lay? 1751 01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:02,599 Speaker 4: The turnover? 1752 01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:03,040 Speaker 8: Yeah? 1753 01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:04,000 Speaker 4: Because what was it? 1754 01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:06,800 Speaker 1: That was a six man protection with a load to 1755 01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:07,880 Speaker 1: the right side, to the. 1756 01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:11,000 Speaker 5: Right, and they brought the pressure earlier. They're like, if 1757 01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:12,560 Speaker 5: you see two to the back, you can flipper it. 1758 01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:14,920 Speaker 5: But also the look like all week were like, slide 1759 01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:16,880 Speaker 5: to the load. Yeah, slide to the load. I mean 1760 01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:19,439 Speaker 5: it's Josh Allen and then it's two and third, do 1761 01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:21,680 Speaker 5: you lineman, and then we'll pick up the game on 1762 01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:22,200 Speaker 5: the back side. 1763 01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:22,960 Speaker 3: Slide to the load. 1764 01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:26,360 Speaker 5: So I look at it, I'm like, Almosa, slide to 1765 01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:28,439 Speaker 5: the load, and then you're bringing a safety off the edge, 1766 01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:33,880 Speaker 5: which I felt him. I felt him rushing, I felt 1767 01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,960 Speaker 5: him coming. I felt I felt him rushing from behind. 1768 01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:39,720 Speaker 2: You was this you felt him behind? He was coming 1769 01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:42,519 Speaker 2: behind you, coming from behind you? Look behind you, Yeah, 1770 01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:49,160 Speaker 2: I'm coming up that back. I felt him rushing. So 1771 01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:50,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna drift to the right. 1772 01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:53,320 Speaker 5: And Freilan had like eight to ten yard route and 1773 01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:54,680 Speaker 5: so I was just trying to give him time to 1774 01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:57,639 Speaker 5: work off the defender and literally a milli second later, 1775 01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:59,559 Speaker 5: he catches the ball on the sideline for a first down. 1776 01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:03,839 Speaker 3: I mean he was wide open. So that's football. 1777 01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:06,040 Speaker 1: So when you so you saw the overload, you're all right, 1778 01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:07,160 Speaker 1: they're going to pick that up. But you knew the 1779 01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:08,760 Speaker 1: safety was coming, and didn't know the safety was coming. 1780 01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:10,320 Speaker 1: You know, the city was coming, didn't know the safety 1781 01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:12,720 Speaker 1: was I didn't know the situation, but it was there 1782 01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:17,400 Speaker 1: was a linebacker, linebacker mug and the safety. Linebacker dropped. Yeah, 1783 01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:20,559 Speaker 1: in my head, linebacker drops, I'm like the back. I'm 1784 01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:22,920 Speaker 1: thinking the back will pick up the safety. The backs 1785 01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:23,519 Speaker 1: head he's. 1786 01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:25,920 Speaker 5: Thinking I got to help out with the internal game. 1787 01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:27,800 Speaker 5: And then the left guard is sinking. I got to 1788 01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,479 Speaker 5: push to the load. For their games to the load 1789 01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,519 Speaker 5: so everyone's more sliding right. And then it was kind 1790 01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:36,240 Speaker 5: of he became a free rusher just based off their 1791 01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:37,240 Speaker 5: scheme on damn. 1792 01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:41,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, damn, I thought it was a four pass. Yeah, 1793 01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:43,160 Speaker 3: we didn't see it. 1794 01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,880 Speaker 5: We didn't see it on the field because obviously when 1795 01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:48,360 Speaker 5: you're away, they never play any replays, especially of the 1796 01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:49,479 Speaker 5: biggest play of the game. 1797 01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,640 Speaker 1: At the Titans in the Citium, they do replace. They 1798 01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:54,479 Speaker 1: will there will be calls that go our way, and 1799 01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:55,960 Speaker 1: then those show on the base in the back. Oh, 1800 01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:57,799 Speaker 1: we should probably probably throw the challenge. 1801 01:10:58,080 --> 01:10:59,760 Speaker 2: That's what I feel like. That's what they're supposed to do, right. 1802 01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:01,679 Speaker 2: They're trying to show the replays that are in your favor. 1803 01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:05,759 Speaker 2: But Jacksonville could have thought that's a ward pass exactly. 1804 01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:07,640 Speaker 2: Jacksonville could have thought, Oh, this doesn't look like it's 1805 01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:09,120 Speaker 2: in our favor. Don't show the replay. 1806 01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:14,040 Speaker 1: Number two also looks very cool. He can you go 1807 01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:17,720 Speaker 1: back to the Uh yeah, I want to see this 1808 01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:24,639 Speaker 1: that that same play like this view the next one 1809 01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:27,040 Speaker 1: is the next Uh yeah, I think it's the next one. 1810 01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:29,599 Speaker 1: You're talking about the checkdown or you know, I'm talking 1811 01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:34,000 Speaker 1: about that play where he gets uh. I want to 1812 01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:35,280 Speaker 1: see that the whole entire thing. 1813 01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:40,120 Speaker 4: Man, and they took it to the. 1814 01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:47,120 Speaker 3: All right, all right, something slide to the load. 1815 01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:50,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, but there's a mug there. There's no one coming. 1816 01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,479 Speaker 1: If you're signing the load. I'm not going to say 1817 01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,519 Speaker 1: what the call is, but they're signing. These two are 1818 01:11:56,640 --> 01:12:01,000 Speaker 1: Man and Haskins. Is his gap is right here in 1819 01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:03,760 Speaker 1: this a gap because unless somebody else is coming, because 1820 01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:06,360 Speaker 1: his either a gap. He should be picking up that 1821 01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:08,040 Speaker 1: guy if no one was coming. If they're rushing, they're 1822 01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:11,639 Speaker 1: rushing five. Yeah, they only brought five because okay, hey, sorry, 1823 01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:14,000 Speaker 1: go back. Forty one ended up dropping to the field. 1824 01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:16,559 Speaker 3: Is this a bigger a little? 1825 01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:19,080 Speaker 1: That's a little. That's the linebacker. Okay, so that is 1826 01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:23,400 Speaker 1: that is a son's damn you trailing? 1827 01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:29,439 Speaker 3: Yeah? Tis a crib damn And it was Josh, that's four. 1828 01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:34,200 Speaker 3: I feel like they didn't look at it very long. 1829 01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:34,720 Speaker 3: You neither. 1830 01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:36,680 Speaker 4: I don't think they did either. But to me, it's 1831 01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:39,240 Speaker 4: like if you could have just had that grip. 1832 01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:41,920 Speaker 3: For just a millisecond, Yeah, millisecond. 1833 01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:44,720 Speaker 2: Thing, it's almost like it even though your arm's going 1834 01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:46,680 Speaker 2: forward a little bit with it, you can see your 1835 01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,280 Speaker 2: you can see yeah. 1836 01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:51,600 Speaker 5: Which I get that part of it, But with the 1837 01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:54,000 Speaker 5: like I get like he's hitting me for it, but 1838 01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:57,599 Speaker 5: the ball got your hand right. 1839 01:12:57,680 --> 01:12:58,320 Speaker 3: Like, here's my thing. 1840 01:12:58,400 --> 01:12:59,920 Speaker 5: If you you know what, you go back there and 1841 01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,519 Speaker 5: QB is like sometimes they throwing the ball just slips 1842 01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:05,560 Speaker 5: out and goes backwards. But if it slipped down and 1843 01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:08,120 Speaker 5: goes forward, that's before it passed. That's the same exact situation. 1844 01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:12,559 Speaker 5: That's a good point exact situation, come buying that stock. 1845 01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:17,479 Speaker 5: That's I think Jackson have won. You think then we punt. 1846 01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:19,040 Speaker 5: Our defense stops, so when we take a knee, we 1847 01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:19,360 Speaker 5: go home. 1848 01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:21,519 Speaker 4: The Titans got cheated out of a division title. 1849 01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:25,080 Speaker 1: We can say, yeah, go back, Uh, go back to 1850 01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:27,800 Speaker 1: that play. The play we were talking about the sact. 1851 01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:30,840 Speaker 1: What I want to see the down in distance third 1852 01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:33,280 Speaker 1: and third and five thirty five. How much time is left? 1853 01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:33,840 Speaker 2: Uh? 1854 01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:38,720 Speaker 5: Three minutes, three minutes we get the first down, three 1855 01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:40,439 Speaker 5: minutes in the game, three manus left in the game. 1856 01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:45,879 Speaker 1: That was right afterwards? 1857 01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:49,040 Speaker 4: What you got you got on your mind? 1858 01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:49,400 Speaker 3: Nothing? 1859 01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:52,360 Speaker 1: Just as armchair quarter I'm arm chair quarterbacking in my 1860 01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:55,599 Speaker 1: head right now. Third and five defense has been has 1861 01:13:55,640 --> 01:14:01,960 Speaker 1: been playing well. I think why not take a very 1862 01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:04,680 Speaker 1: like not you could You could absolutely run it. You 1863 01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:07,439 Speaker 1: could absolutely run the situation five on third and five 1864 01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:09,200 Speaker 1: with two minus fifty one seconds of the game. 1865 01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:09,680 Speaker 4: You can run it. 1866 01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:10,320 Speaker 3: You could run it. 1867 01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:14,920 Speaker 1: Can do a very quick, high percentage throw and hope 1868 01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,479 Speaker 1: he gets the sticks because your defense. Look at the score. 1869 01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,160 Speaker 1: The defense has been playing great all game, and we 1870 01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:21,720 Speaker 1: have the best punter in the league. Who's gonna hit 1871 01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:25,760 Speaker 1: that ball fifty sixty fucking yards. You do that, you're 1872 01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:27,800 Speaker 1: just talking about a completely different game right now. Three 1873 01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:30,160 Speaker 1: timeouts on both sides, there's a. 1874 01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,360 Speaker 5: They'll probably burn one if you run, you run it, 1875 01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:34,400 Speaker 5: they'll probably burn it to save it before the two minute. 1876 01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a good point too. 1877 01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:40,160 Speaker 4: But third and five, you're still trying to get the 1878 01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:40,679 Speaker 4: first down. 1879 01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:42,400 Speaker 1: You're still trying to get the first down. But you 1880 01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:44,400 Speaker 1: gotta go with like a super high percentage throw. Then 1881 01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:46,360 Speaker 1: that might that might have been a high percent throw. 1882 01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:49,519 Speaker 1: They just they just their scheme beat our scheme in 1883 01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:51,760 Speaker 1: this situation with how they were setting the things. 1884 01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:55,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, again, it comes down to literally a millisecond. And 1885 01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:56,680 Speaker 3: it's totally different too. 1886 01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:58,599 Speaker 1: If you sit there and let's say we're not sliding 1887 01:14:58,640 --> 01:14:59,920 Speaker 1: to the load, and you think, all right, we got 1888 01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,320 Speaker 1: we have five guys up. Basically, why don't we just 1889 01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:03,920 Speaker 1: mic this guy over the left guard. 1890 01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:05,040 Speaker 3: Now you have five on five. 1891 01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:07,800 Speaker 1: Now Haskin picks up that that safety off the edge. 1892 01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:12,040 Speaker 3: Yes, you didn't get him. That's a four pass. That's 1893 01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:12,639 Speaker 3: a four pass. 1894 01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:18,080 Speaker 5: Play it live, play live, And I get like the 1895 01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:20,320 Speaker 5: rule where they say, all right, let's let it, let's 1896 01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:22,360 Speaker 5: let it, let's let it go this What I was like, alright, 1897 01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:23,400 Speaker 5: they'll let it go and then they'll be like. 1898 01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:25,640 Speaker 3: It was a four pass if you just saw that. 1899 01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:29,599 Speaker 2: No, man, you think that's a four past because again 1900 01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:31,120 Speaker 2: he's not hitting the ball forward. 1901 01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:35,080 Speaker 4: No, he's in my arm, which is like an eight 1902 01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:45,040 Speaker 4: nine yard throws. 1903 01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:41,320 Speaker 3: The exact same play. 1904 01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:43,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you try, you try to think of another 1905 01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:45,880 Speaker 1: argument for your times if you're being biased and if 1906 01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:48,840 Speaker 1: they're if y'all are playing the Patriots. When Tom was there, 1907 01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:50,799 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, obviously they're having bias ards the Patriots. 1908 01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:51,839 Speaker 1: They want them to go to the playoffs? 1909 01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:57,800 Speaker 3: Did it same play? Go back? 1910 01:15:58,000 --> 01:15:59,040 Speaker 1: We should pull up that play? 1911 01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:04,840 Speaker 3: Pull but the tech crule No way. Hey, oh, yesterday, 1912 01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:06,840 Speaker 3: I want to, uh, the way you framed that question 1913 01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:10,639 Speaker 3: him about the checkdown, It was a really good job. Yeah, 1914 01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:12,320 Speaker 3: that was what did it great? Did you think about 1915 01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:12,719 Speaker 3: that before? 1916 01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:14,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was kind of something I was messing with. 1917 01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:16,840 Speaker 2: I was telling Caleb I wanted to ask a question 1918 01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:20,360 Speaker 2: about the fourth and twelve play, like, Hey, I'm gonna 1919 01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:22,400 Speaker 2: give this situation where we're getting a few out, we're 1920 01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:24,000 Speaker 2: gonna have a check down fourth and twelve game in 1921 01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:25,120 Speaker 2: the line where you going with the ball. 1922 01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:25,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he. 1923 01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:28,559 Speaker 2: Sorry, he started laughing and Caleb was doing with Caleb dust. Yeah, 1924 01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:30,880 Speaker 2: it's like painting it even more and talks about there's 1925 01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:32,560 Speaker 2: a forty thousand dollars check for everybody on the on 1926 01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:34,920 Speaker 2: the roster waiting to. 1927 01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:39,920 Speaker 3: Go to the playoffs. Get Yeah, that's a that's a deal. 1928 01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:43,040 Speaker 3: You're thinking, how fuck I wanted that check? You goddamn 1929 01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:45,320 Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. I mean anywhere you sliced the dude. You 1930 01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:46,599 Speaker 3: played well in those two games. 1931 01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:48,479 Speaker 1: You played well enough for the Tennessee Titans to win 1932 01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:50,960 Speaker 1: the Dallas I don't know, like it just didn't go 1933 01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:51,680 Speaker 1: our away that one. 1934 01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:54,000 Speaker 3: They they played well too, They played well, they had. 1935 01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:55,800 Speaker 1: More talent on the field. Like that is what it is, 1936 01:16:56,000 --> 01:17:02,360 Speaker 1: excepting you gave Tennessee an opportunity to win. And that's 1937 01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:04,000 Speaker 1: all at the end of day's quarterback, that's what you did. 1938 01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:05,439 Speaker 1: You did a great job and your second start in 1939 01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:08,200 Speaker 1: the NFL. Yeah, that's incredible. You have everything to be 1940 01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:08,519 Speaker 1: proud of. 1941 01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:09,160 Speaker 3: Appreciate that. 1942 01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:11,320 Speaker 1: Like you can nitpick yourself on the fourth and thirteen 1943 01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:14,800 Speaker 1: all day, but really you are There's three things that 1944 01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:16,920 Speaker 1: can happen when you are a backup thrust into a 1945 01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:18,960 Speaker 1: starting role in the league. You can play so well 1946 01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:20,559 Speaker 1: that this dude needs to be a start in the NFL. 1947 01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:22,600 Speaker 1: You can kind of stay where you're at, or you 1948 01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:24,600 Speaker 1: can play yourself out of the NFL and you are 1949 01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:25,880 Speaker 1: in those top two and. 1950 01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:30,080 Speaker 4: On on drop of the hat. Like again, you did 1951 01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:32,120 Speaker 4: that within a week ten days. 1952 01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:35,960 Speaker 1: Notice, let's say let's say I mean, I'm assuming Tannehill's 1953 01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:37,840 Speaker 1: gonna be on the on the roster next year. He's there, 1954 01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:41,400 Speaker 1: You're the number two. People know Tannehill goes down like, oh, 1955 01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:43,560 Speaker 1: we got Josh Dopps, We're gonna be all right, we 1956 01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:45,160 Speaker 1: can go play, we can go we have an opportunity 1957 01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:48,240 Speaker 1: to win a game exactly season under. But you've leveled 1958 01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:50,240 Speaker 1: yourself up just off of twenty days. 1959 01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:50,880 Speaker 4: For sure. 1960 01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:52,280 Speaker 3: How cool is that? It's more than that. 1961 01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:56,200 Speaker 5: I mean, like and that was Terry Sport is like, well, 1962 01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:57,960 Speaker 5: why wuldn't you just like just go back to Cleveland, 1963 01:17:58,000 --> 01:17:59,240 Speaker 5: like send back to their practice squad. 1964 01:17:59,280 --> 01:17:59,840 Speaker 3: It's like you have to. 1965 01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:00,680 Speaker 4: You have to. 1966 01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:04,000 Speaker 5: You're not if you're not especially a quarterback, if you're 1967 01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:06,800 Speaker 5: not drafted in the first round, or a team doesn't say, hey, 1968 01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:08,960 Speaker 5: we want you to be our guy and we're gonna 1969 01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:10,960 Speaker 5: put you on this field until you are successful. To 1970 01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,519 Speaker 5: be the guy you have to look around and say, hey, 1971 01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:15,519 Speaker 5: I have to make an opportunity for myself. 1972 01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:16,519 Speaker 3: That's what you gotta do. 1973 01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:18,880 Speaker 2: And that's what you did. Is that how you feel 1974 01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:20,960 Speaker 2: about it too? Like, yeah, for sure, the game gets done, 1975 01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:22,840 Speaker 2: Like you're obviously upset. You're like, fuck, man, I would 1976 01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:25,000 Speaker 2: have loved to have gotten in the playoffs. But now 1977 01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:26,160 Speaker 2: you can kind of sit back and look at these 1978 01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:29,040 Speaker 2: last two weeks like you took advantage of your opportunity. 1979 01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:32,439 Speaker 1: Definitely see him and any doubt that might have crept 1980 01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:34,800 Speaker 1: into your mind over the last six years of being like, 1981 01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:36,800 Speaker 1: am I a start in this? Like because everybody has 1982 01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:39,759 Speaker 1: self doubt? Of course everybody has that you have silenced 1983 01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:40,599 Speaker 1: in your own head. 1984 01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:43,840 Speaker 5: That's those critics what you really like and you affirm 1985 01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:46,920 Speaker 5: to yourself that your process works for you. 1986 01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:48,519 Speaker 3: You know what I mean that that's the biggest thing. 1987 01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:51,479 Speaker 5: When you do the process and then there's no result 1988 01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:53,280 Speaker 5: at the end of it, like there's nothing, there's nothing 1989 01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:55,160 Speaker 5: to show for it. You're just sitting there like, Okay, yeah, 1990 01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:57,120 Speaker 5: I have some good preseason tape, but a lot of 1991 01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:59,759 Speaker 5: guys have good preseason tape. No going out and actually 1992 01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:02,680 Speaker 5: playing like in big games, like and playing well. I'm 1993 01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:04,840 Speaker 5: in those moments. It's completely different than saying, yeah, you 1994 01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:08,040 Speaker 5: played really well in August against basic cover four and 1995 01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:09,840 Speaker 5: cover three defenses for three weeks. 1996 01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:10,040 Speaker 2: You know. 1997 01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:11,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, I know it. 1998 01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:14,040 Speaker 5: It definitely does feel good to make the most of 1999 01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:16,719 Speaker 5: the situation. Wish I could have made more of the situation, 2000 01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:18,120 Speaker 5: you know, like not throw the checkdown. 2001 01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:21,000 Speaker 4: Fortunately I'm working with you on that, so I mean 2002 01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:21,240 Speaker 4: I'm not. 2003 01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:23,519 Speaker 3: But also, did you really tell it trailing to be 2004 01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:25,880 Speaker 3: smart with the ball on that play? For sure? All right? 2005 01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:29,200 Speaker 3: For sure? It's like sure and again on him there. 2006 01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:31,479 Speaker 4: You know that you can do it. It's like six 2007 01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:33,439 Speaker 4: years is a long time not doubt yourself. 2008 01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:38,160 Speaker 2: But again, leaning back on conversations with Colt McCoy, he's like, man, 2009 01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:40,240 Speaker 2: because injuries would kind of hurt him to like be 2010 01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:42,599 Speaker 2: a full time starter, because he would he would get hurt. 2011 01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:43,759 Speaker 4: He's got to get injury history. 2012 01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:47,080 Speaker 2: He's like, man, I just want to know that everything 2013 01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:49,480 Speaker 2: I'm doing every day because he was very like regimented 2014 01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:52,400 Speaker 2: process like first in last all that shit, bro every 2015 01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:55,400 Speaker 2: fucking day. So I'm like, yo, you know why you 2016 01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:58,040 Speaker 2: still blah blah blah. And it's like, man, when I 2017 01:19:58,120 --> 01:19:59,560 Speaker 2: do get the opportunity, I just want to know that 2018 01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:02,000 Speaker 2: I can can do and everything I'm doing is correct, 2019 01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:04,280 Speaker 2: Like I just want to prove myself that, like I 2020 01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:06,240 Speaker 2: can be a starter. I can't go out there and 2021 01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:10,120 Speaker 2: win a big game exactly. But yeah, no, that's sick, man, 2022 01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:12,760 Speaker 2: it does suck that. It's like the boys don't get 2023 01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:13,639 Speaker 2: to go into the playoffs. 2024 01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:13,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2025 01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:16,240 Speaker 1: And also I didn't get a check either. I would 2026 01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:17,519 Speaker 1: have got a check on I R. You would have 2027 01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:19,000 Speaker 1: got a check, Yeah, I would have got check check. 2028 01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:23,400 Speaker 1: Remember Kyle Phillips, Yeah, I wanted to pay for his wedding. 2029 01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:25,360 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he think this check will pay for my wedding. 2030 01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:27,360 Speaker 4: This check will pay for my wedding. 2031 01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:27,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2032 01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:29,000 Speaker 3: Sorry. But there's a lot of guys. 2033 01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,240 Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys on the Titans roster that 2034 01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:35,400 Speaker 1: I think made themselves money. Like I think Jordan Ruse 2035 01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:37,320 Speaker 1: went out and I think he played really well. He 2036 01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:39,800 Speaker 1: plays hard. I think Corey Levin went out there and 2037 01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:40,800 Speaker 1: made some money for himself. 2038 01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:42,519 Speaker 2: Like those are the guys that I've rooted for, But 2039 01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:44,080 Speaker 2: I like, I'm not in alignment. So I don't know 2040 01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:46,320 Speaker 2: if Yeah, I thought I thought Jordan. I think he's 2041 01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:47,679 Speaker 2: been starting for five weeks. 2042 01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:49,080 Speaker 3: I think he is. 2043 01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:51,600 Speaker 1: He played good like not hey did you did? 2044 01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:52,400 Speaker 3: You did? All right? 2045 01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:55,479 Speaker 1: Well, he played good football a couple you want back 2046 01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:58,559 Speaker 1: here and there. But I think he proved he proved 2047 01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:00,519 Speaker 1: a lot of people wrong. I think Corey did the 2048 01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:02,479 Speaker 1: same thing because Corey's not the same person he was 2049 01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:04,360 Speaker 1: draft is the same draft class as year seventeen. 2050 01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:06,880 Speaker 5: Corey's like stories very similar to mine. And we were talking, 2051 01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:09,360 Speaker 5: like I was talking to him on the plane last night. 2052 01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:13,880 Speaker 5: Was that yesterday? Two days ago? It Sawli Blur and 2053 01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:16,439 Speaker 5: he was like, yeah, that was just my fourth start. 2054 01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:19,439 Speaker 5: Like Corey, it was just your fourth start last night. 2055 01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:21,799 Speaker 5: He's like, yeah, that was your second. That's crazy. 2056 01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:25,720 Speaker 1: COR's the best. That is awesome. He's super smart. But 2057 01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:27,439 Speaker 1: the way he talks, like is this guy. 2058 01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:30,040 Speaker 4: Where he's coming out slower than he's Oh dude. 2059 01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:33,120 Speaker 1: He thinks fast and talks slow. He is a dude though, 2060 01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:35,040 Speaker 1: Like when he got here in twenty seventeen, I don't 2061 01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:38,160 Speaker 1: think he was a guy that I perceived as being 2062 01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:40,000 Speaker 1: happy to be on the football team, like happy to 2063 01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:41,800 Speaker 1: be in the NFL I've made it because I'm here 2064 01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:42,200 Speaker 1: right now. 2065 01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:44,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, just thankful for yeah being in the room. 2066 01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:44,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2067 01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:46,240 Speaker 3: And then he uh, he got cut. 2068 01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:47,479 Speaker 1: I think he went to the Jets and then he 2069 01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:49,600 Speaker 1: went to Denver and we had to the Bears, and 2070 01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:51,680 Speaker 1: the Bears too for a hot second, kind of like 2071 01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:53,920 Speaker 1: really in a big limbo part of his life gets 2072 01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:57,240 Speaker 1: a I guess a fourth chance in Tennessee again and 2073 01:21:57,439 --> 01:22:00,520 Speaker 1: is A was a completely different person still same great personality, 2074 01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:02,840 Speaker 1: still talked real slow. But he was definitely one of 2075 01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:05,519 Speaker 1: those guys that I could see he has made like 2076 01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:09,360 Speaker 1: a maturity growth being like I'm not satisfied with just 2077 01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:12,040 Speaker 1: being on a roster, and I think I think the 2078 01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:14,200 Speaker 1: boy made himself some money this the last few weeks. 2079 01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:16,160 Speaker 2: You're out of role to know that you're a defendable, 2080 01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:18,960 Speaker 2: you're a dependable backup emergency situation, which. 2081 01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:21,960 Speaker 1: Is I think Corey could be a starter in the NFL, 2082 01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:24,479 Speaker 1: and I do believe Jordan Ruse can be also. 2083 01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:25,639 Speaker 3: I feel what you're saying. 2084 01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:28,200 Speaker 2: I'm just saying from situations like that, you almost need 2085 01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:30,439 Speaker 2: the confidence to know I've carved out, like I'm going 2086 01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:32,479 Speaker 2: to be on a roster next year. Now I get 2087 01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:35,240 Speaker 2: to take advantage of actually competing for a job, because 2088 01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:37,880 Speaker 2: when you're in and out of it that you're almost thinking, like, man, 2089 01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:39,439 Speaker 2: what situation can I get into? 2090 01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:40,200 Speaker 4: Make the roster? 2091 01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:41,920 Speaker 2: And then you get to play a few games and 2092 01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:44,160 Speaker 2: you almost feel like, Okay, I've earned myself some money, 2093 01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:46,519 Speaker 2: meaning like I've earned myself a fifty three man spot. 2094 01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:48,439 Speaker 4: Now how can I look at as. 2095 01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:51,840 Speaker 3: A whole different winning a job? Different headspace? Yeah, yeah, space. Yeah. 2096 01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:53,840 Speaker 3: Because Jordan's stayed with me. 2097 01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:56,559 Speaker 1: His family was in Texas, and during camp when they 2098 01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:58,880 Speaker 1: were released the veterans, Jordan's like, I don't I don't 2099 01:22:58,880 --> 01:22:59,559 Speaker 1: want to stay in the hotel? 2100 01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:01,679 Speaker 3: Can I stay at your house? So he didn't. 2101 01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:03,479 Speaker 1: We would drive together to practice, we would go we 2102 01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:07,320 Speaker 1: would constantly talk about like his situation because he would 2103 01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:09,639 Speaker 1: lean on me because obviously being somewhere knowing that I'm 2104 01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:10,960 Speaker 1: gonna have a role on this team and what I'm 2105 01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:12,639 Speaker 1: gonna be, he would lean on me, and I would 2106 01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:14,400 Speaker 1: just kind of like get Look, he gave him a 2107 01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:15,080 Speaker 1: letter grade every. 2108 01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:16,320 Speaker 3: Day I was a fit. You did this well. 2109 01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:18,320 Speaker 1: I thought you could have done this better. Blah blah blah. 2110 01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:20,800 Speaker 1: But put a really good camp together, and I think 2111 01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:23,360 Speaker 1: it was really looking where because at first it was him, 2112 01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:26,120 Speaker 1: Daniel Munyer and Corey and there's always, you know how 2113 01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:29,479 Speaker 1: camp is, there's always like battles within the position group, 2114 01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:32,800 Speaker 1: and that was his battle per se. Munyar gets hurt 2115 01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:36,360 Speaker 1: in one of the scrimmage practices we have, and I'm 2116 01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:39,280 Speaker 1: hurt for Monier because that's my boy. But Jordan, he's 2117 01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:41,800 Speaker 1: sad for Munyar too, But at the same time he's thinking, 2118 01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:44,720 Speaker 1: I got an opportunity. That's one off the list right there. 2119 01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:48,880 Speaker 1: Nate has a couple of things. Corey he starts feeling 2120 01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:50,920 Speaker 1: more into a center role. So I'm looking at the 2121 01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:53,479 Speaker 1: end of camp thinking, oh, my boy's gonna make this team. 2122 01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:56,280 Speaker 1: Like he's literally willed himself into, had a great camp, 2123 01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:58,959 Speaker 1: played hard. I think he had a tough last preseason 2124 01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:01,200 Speaker 1: game and he was it was really weighing on him. 2125 01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:03,960 Speaker 1: And then two days before the active roster's done, we 2126 01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:06,840 Speaker 1: traded for Dennis Daly and I think that's the one 2127 01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:09,160 Speaker 1: that took him out of the race because he was 2128 01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:12,280 Speaker 1: a guy for that moment took him out and because 2129 01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:13,760 Speaker 1: he asked me like, what do you think, I'm like, well, 2130 01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:15,200 Speaker 1: I don't know the kid. I don't know Dennis Daly 2131 01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:17,800 Speaker 1: very well. I know him better now obviously, but I 2132 01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:19,559 Speaker 1: was like, he seems like a tackle, all right. 2133 01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:23,240 Speaker 3: I think they they traded. 2134 01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:25,200 Speaker 1: I thought they were trading for a tackle because there 2135 01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:28,080 Speaker 1: was a whole situation with Dylan Raiden's he and Nick 2136 01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:31,720 Speaker 1: were fighting for the tackle spot. Then Nick wins that 2137 01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:34,160 Speaker 1: I think they're now trying to play Dylan in an 2138 01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:37,519 Speaker 1: inside three position, which also puts a little more pressure 2139 01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:40,599 Speaker 1: on Ruse, and they bring Dennison to be the backup tackle. 2140 01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:43,560 Speaker 1: Obviously a week into it, Dennis was thrust into a 2141 01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:46,720 Speaker 1: starting job. But that's what It's crazy. How you do 2142 01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:50,000 Speaker 1: all the right things and now he's fucking out, you 2143 01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:53,360 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But and then on the other hand, 2144 01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:56,479 Speaker 1: he sits there, he works hard, gets elevated, sits around 2145 01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:59,920 Speaker 1: for ten weeks. He's making activated money. He's grinding. Got 2146 01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:02,160 Speaker 1: guys a workhorse. Also, you're a workhorse too. I saw 2147 01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:03,960 Speaker 1: you in that weight room a few times. You were 2148 01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:04,560 Speaker 1: getting after it. 2149 01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:07,599 Speaker 3: Appreciated that wait on. But I'm proud of I'm proud 2150 01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:10,320 Speaker 3: of Russ. I think I think his year is like 2151 01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:12,639 Speaker 3: just the grinder. He's a grinder. 2152 01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:15,400 Speaker 1: That's literally making his NFL dream work, and I'm fucking 2153 01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:16,960 Speaker 1: proud of that guy's doing a great job. 2154 01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:19,719 Speaker 5: So the stories are like awesome because it's like, shoot, 2155 01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:22,479 Speaker 5: you just you got grind. Just keep grinding, keep grinding, 2156 01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:23,960 Speaker 5: crying the way, keep chipping away. 2157 01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:25,320 Speaker 4: See like, I feel like. 2158 01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:28,240 Speaker 2: You can see all the all those guys, right, and 2159 01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:31,120 Speaker 2: then you see the decisions made by one half and 2160 01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:33,040 Speaker 2: then decisions made by the other half. The other half 2161 01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:36,240 Speaker 2: kind of like you know, gets weeded out of the process, 2162 01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:38,519 Speaker 2: and you're kind of just you watch Ruse do his 2163 01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:40,960 Speaker 2: thing and you're just thinking, man, like, I fucking I'm 2164 01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:43,599 Speaker 2: rooting for him, because this motherfucker does all things. 2165 01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:46,960 Speaker 1: Everything right right, and then three times themselves out of 2166 01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:49,080 Speaker 1: the league. He was late to meetings three times. You 2167 01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:51,200 Speaker 1: never slept three times this year. And I will publicly 2168 01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:54,679 Speaker 1: say that Jordan Ruse, he needs that accountability. I got 2169 01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:56,920 Speaker 1: almost everything well probably, Yeah. 2170 01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:58,639 Speaker 4: That's gonna be tough from here. Then on a public platform, 2171 01:25:58,840 --> 01:25:59,320 Speaker 4: that's gonna be. 2172 01:25:59,320 --> 01:25:59,760 Speaker 3: Tough from there. 2173 01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:01,840 Speaker 1: But I've already said so many nice things. There's gotta 2174 01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:03,240 Speaker 1: be something. I have a dragon for the ball. It 2175 01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:05,120 Speaker 1: takes his one jab and he's flash. It's like the 2176 01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:06,840 Speaker 1: comments on Twitter. Did you see ten good ones and 2177 01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:08,960 Speaker 1: one bad one? Now one bad one? Things way worse. 2178 01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:10,680 Speaker 3: About a chugging ability? And he was flustered. 2179 01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:14,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're fast, like you, you shouldn't talk about 2180 01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:16,640 Speaker 1: peoples chuggability because of you're incredible. 2181 01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:18,400 Speaker 2: I understand that, but I'm talking about. All I had 2182 01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:20,719 Speaker 2: to do is tell Jordan like, oh yeah, Taylor murked 2183 01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:24,000 Speaker 2: you what are you talking about? And he was bamboozled 2184 01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:25,080 Speaker 2: for like the next two months. 2185 01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:28,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, easily rattled Jordan Russ. That's that's a tough pendulum 2186 01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:30,360 Speaker 1: swing on him just now. Because there were so many 2187 01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:33,040 Speaker 1: good things that about him. He was started that that's 2188 01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:35,360 Speaker 1: on me, that's on me. That's tough. 2189 01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:36,880 Speaker 4: What do we talk about now? This dude is an 2190 01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:38,080 Speaker 4: aerospace engineer. 2191 01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:43,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't that's true. That's true Twitter certified rocket, 2192 01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:44,559 Speaker 3: certified rocket scientist. 2193 01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:47,160 Speaker 4: You're a certified rocket scientist. 2194 01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:48,840 Speaker 3: It was on my Twitter. I thought that that was 2195 01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:49,320 Speaker 3: the coolest thing. 2196 01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:52,280 Speaker 5: I've changed it when when I graduated, it's like certified 2197 01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:53,120 Speaker 5: rocket scientists. 2198 01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:56,479 Speaker 2: You know, that is insane. It's almost like the default 2199 01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:57,760 Speaker 2: thing you want to be when you grow up, when 2200 01:26:57,760 --> 01:26:58,559 Speaker 2: you're just the youngest. 2201 01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:01,640 Speaker 3: I won't be a rocket. Scientists, Yeah, what does that 2202 01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:05,759 Speaker 3: even mean? You you scientifically know rockets now? Yeah, exactly, 2203 01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:08,519 Speaker 3: like build you a rocket, go to space general studies major. 2204 01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:12,160 Speaker 5: One of my classes was astronautics and it was like 2205 01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:15,200 Speaker 5: actually pretty mind blowing because it was literally like space travel, 2206 01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:18,840 Speaker 5: so you were you were doing. It's called like Homan 2207 01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:21,960 Speaker 5: transfers and non Homan transfers, so just like talking about 2208 01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:23,800 Speaker 5: like trajectory. What are those two words, what are those 2209 01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:29,400 Speaker 5: words mean? Homeland Homan transfer. It's just like rockets going 2210 01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:32,880 Speaker 5: to like you're trying to send a rocket from like 2211 01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:36,439 Speaker 5: Earth to Mars, like Earth to another planet, just like 2212 01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:37,200 Speaker 5: the math. 2213 01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:39,000 Speaker 1: And stuff around it. You're gonna love our tier talk. 2214 01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:40,120 Speaker 3: What's what's that? 2215 01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:42,559 Speaker 1: You'll find out in a little bit. Okay, don't worry, 2216 01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:45,240 Speaker 1: it's it's what you're talking about. But very dumb down 2217 01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:46,360 Speaker 1: eight year olds are gonna love. 2218 01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:48,400 Speaker 3: This part of the show. Perfect. What was your one 2219 01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:49,040 Speaker 3: question going to be? 2220 01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:50,679 Speaker 4: Is time travel real? 2221 01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:55,280 Speaker 5: So my time traveling my time travel traveling piece is 2222 01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:59,720 Speaker 5: it's like so like time is the fourth dimension in 2223 01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:01,960 Speaker 5: our so like you had if you're in a two 2224 01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:07,080 Speaker 5: two dimensional world, no, no, no, so unbelievable, or if 2225 01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:08,640 Speaker 5: you're in a two D world. Like if you're two 2226 01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:11,760 Speaker 5: D world like a picture book. Right, you got two dimensions, 2227 01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:14,600 Speaker 5: the third dimensions time, so it's like the ability the 2228 01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:16,360 Speaker 5: fourth that's actually the fourth dimension. We're in a two 2229 01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:18,760 Speaker 5: D world. Now we went back. Okay, if you, like 2230 01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:21,000 Speaker 5: you have a book, it's two D. So the third 2231 01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:23,519 Speaker 5: dimension movie times, like the ability to like just flip 2232 01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:26,160 Speaker 5: the page pages and like go from a different spot 2233 01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:29,960 Speaker 5: in the book. So like in our three dimensional world, 2234 01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:33,599 Speaker 5: time is the fourth dimension. So if you could time travel, 2235 01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:36,240 Speaker 5: you have to be four dimensional in a three dimensional world. 2236 01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:39,880 Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, yeah, okay, So I understood what you 2237 01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:42,960 Speaker 1: said kind of, but I don't think you answered the question. 2238 01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:46,519 Speaker 5: I don't think it's time travel is real at the 2239 01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:49,760 Speaker 5: moment because I feel like I saw like one thing. 2240 01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:51,720 Speaker 5: One theory is like if time travel is real, like 2241 01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:54,320 Speaker 5: time travel can't be real until the day someone creates 2242 01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:57,280 Speaker 5: a time machine, because then you can time travel backwards 2243 01:28:57,320 --> 01:28:59,680 Speaker 5: and force to that point. But until someone creates the 2244 01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:03,240 Speaker 5: time machine, you can't time travel to an area of 2245 01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:04,080 Speaker 5: time where there's. 2246 01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:04,519 Speaker 3: No time machine. 2247 01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:05,760 Speaker 4: Do you think the potential's out there? 2248 01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:06,720 Speaker 3: I don't know. 2249 01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:08,720 Speaker 1: Have you ever seen an interstellar I have seen an 2250 01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:09,880 Speaker 1: interstellar fire. 2251 01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:14,000 Speaker 5: Okay, hold on, so hold on, that's the will read 2252 01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:17,639 Speaker 5: h Yeah, he's like before you could just pick where 2253 01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:20,000 Speaker 5: he wanted to go in the three DIMENSIONLD because it's 2254 01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:20,759 Speaker 5: in the fourth dimension. 2255 01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:23,679 Speaker 1: So if time time travel is only real when time 2256 01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:26,720 Speaker 1: travel is made when there's a time machine made, when 2257 01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:28,519 Speaker 1: a time machine made. So if the time machine was 2258 01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:30,479 Speaker 1: made right now, and it was right outside this building, 2259 01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:32,280 Speaker 1: and we said, okay, we're going to time travel. We 2260 01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:33,920 Speaker 1: can only travel to the future, we can't travel to 2261 01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:37,559 Speaker 1: the past. Interesting, you want to know what's the theory 2262 01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:39,720 Speaker 1: I just saw. I don't know if that's true. No, 2263 01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:42,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna take that as facts right out. That's you 2264 01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:44,200 Speaker 1: just gave me all the information I now know about 2265 01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:47,200 Speaker 1: time travel. Like that is that's a fucking it. 2266 01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:48,280 Speaker 4: Do you know what's crazy? 2267 01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:50,639 Speaker 2: Is like, say, the potential to create that is out 2268 01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:53,639 Speaker 2: there the moment it gets made, and you can time travel. 2269 01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:56,080 Speaker 4: Our future selves already knew we were going to come 2270 01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:56,400 Speaker 4: up with this. 2271 01:29:57,720 --> 01:29:59,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, because they look at their history books and say, oh, 2272 01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:00,519 Speaker 1: Torn twenty two is. 2273 01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:03,719 Speaker 4: Out behind the library right now, a bookshelf just yelling 2274 01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:04,040 Speaker 4: do this? 2275 01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:04,439 Speaker 3: Do that? 2276 01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:05,080 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? 2277 01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:06,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, he knows that it's. 2278 01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:07,280 Speaker 4: Going to come at some point. 2279 01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:11,160 Speaker 1: What massive implications are there on our species human beings 2280 01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:15,280 Speaker 1: with travel with no with time travel being able for 2281 01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:17,839 Speaker 1: the common man to do, isn't that extremely dangerous? 2282 01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:20,439 Speaker 3: I think so, I don't. I don't know. 2283 01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:25,200 Speaker 8: What's your opinion? Do you think rocket science? Come correct, brother, 2284 01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:27,040 Speaker 8: because now we're talking about the butterfly fact. Well, like 2285 01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:28,720 Speaker 8: being a rocket science is so fun because people a 2286 01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:30,799 Speaker 8: great movie. People are like, you got to know everything, 2287 01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:34,479 Speaker 8: like you becoming rock sided. People ask me about everything 2288 01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:36,720 Speaker 8: like I don't. I don't know everything. I just know 2289 01:30:37,320 --> 01:30:41,000 Speaker 8: like rocket sciences stuff, so like time travel, like I know, 2290 01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:41,600 Speaker 8: like I. 2291 01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:46,840 Speaker 4: Know the couple No rocket science. You think you're all 2292 01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:47,040 Speaker 4: I know. 2293 01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:49,160 Speaker 3: I'm just a man, but I do know rocket science. 2294 01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:51,080 Speaker 3: They're not all knowing. 2295 01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:51,400 Speaker 2: You know. 2296 01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:53,240 Speaker 4: When you're done playing ball? Then what do you want 2297 01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:53,640 Speaker 4: to do with that? 2298 01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:57,800 Speaker 3: Show it off on podcasts? Show it off? Yeah? 2299 01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:01,160 Speaker 4: Be like, uh, we create the podcast? 2300 01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:01,479 Speaker 3: What's that? 2301 01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:03,479 Speaker 5: What's the guy that goes on the podcast and talks 2302 01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:09,360 Speaker 5: uh the astrophysicists. Yeah, Neil de grasse be like him 2303 01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:10,519 Speaker 5: in talk circles around people. 2304 01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:12,920 Speaker 3: No, I won't, I won't. I won't do that you 2305 01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:13,679 Speaker 3: have my attention. 2306 01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:17,479 Speaker 5: Oh wow, so I've done stuff at NASA, like I 2307 01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:20,200 Speaker 5: want to get my polot license this off season that 2308 01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:20,920 Speaker 5: they will do that? 2309 01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:24,200 Speaker 3: Why wherever? I think that would be dope like stuff 2310 01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:26,280 Speaker 3: like that. I really like aviation. 2311 01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:30,599 Speaker 5: I really like aviation like stuff like growing up, planes 2312 01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:34,720 Speaker 5: was always my passion. I start aerospace engineering because aeronautical 2313 01:31:34,760 --> 01:31:39,040 Speaker 5: engineering would be just aviation. Aerospace engineering is aviation and space, 2314 01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:41,160 Speaker 5: so you get both just to see the differences. 2315 01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:43,160 Speaker 3: But I really like aviation. 2316 01:31:43,280 --> 01:31:45,280 Speaker 1: I think that would be that be something really cool 2317 01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:47,320 Speaker 1: to get into passions. If planes have always been your 2318 01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:48,880 Speaker 1: passion since you were a little kid, why are you waiting? 2319 01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:50,960 Speaker 1: Why have you waited till now to get your polot license. 2320 01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:53,840 Speaker 5: I haven't had any time, honestly interesting, but like the 2321 01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:55,920 Speaker 5: last off seasons, Like my first off season, I did 2322 01:31:55,960 --> 01:32:00,479 Speaker 5: a externship of fanatics, just like learning, like how they 2323 01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:03,320 Speaker 5: grew their company from a business standpoint, we're in business. 2324 01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:07,439 Speaker 5: Second off season I was with NASA. Third off season 2325 01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:10,479 Speaker 5: I was with NASA. Fourth off season was COVID, so 2326 01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:12,160 Speaker 5: nothing was going on. I was with I just stuff 2327 01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:14,920 Speaker 5: at NASA. So I just like haven't really like had 2328 01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:17,560 Speaker 5: the time or just been in the I guess the 2329 01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:20,200 Speaker 5: physical place to be able to do it. So this 2330 01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:23,880 Speaker 5: off season really like where I got the point. So 2331 01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:26,639 Speaker 5: I got released from Cleveland end up going to practice 2332 01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:28,920 Speaker 5: squad as we all know, and so I was sitting there, 2333 01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:31,040 Speaker 5: I was like, yes, I'm like I have to learn 2334 01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:33,439 Speaker 5: a playbook and everything, but I also I want to 2335 01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:36,120 Speaker 5: be really productive with my time. I was like, it'll 2336 01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:37,840 Speaker 5: be something like cool to like set myself up for 2337 01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:41,120 Speaker 5: the off season. So I started taking the pilot's class. 2338 01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:42,960 Speaker 5: I was like, I'm gonna get my pilot's license. So 2339 01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:44,880 Speaker 5: I started taking the class and stuff. So I was 2340 01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:48,240 Speaker 5: doing that like in my free time. And then obviously 2341 01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:50,080 Speaker 5: since I got here, I haven't looked at it once 2342 01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:52,960 Speaker 5: because I had to you know, play but yeah, so 2343 01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:54,280 Speaker 5: I kind of like saw that. 2344 01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:55,280 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I want to do that this 2345 01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:56,360 Speaker 1: off season, so I'm gonna do it. 2346 01:32:57,080 --> 01:32:58,559 Speaker 3: There you go, and that fires me up. 2347 01:32:59,040 --> 01:32:59,360 Speaker 4: Do you know what? 2348 01:32:59,400 --> 01:32:59,920 Speaker 3: Plenty want to fly? 2349 01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:03,479 Speaker 5: So I'm gonna do it with serious over in Knoxville. Yeah, 2350 01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:07,000 Speaker 5: they make a lot of single engine jets and planes, 2351 01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:09,559 Speaker 5: so I want to fly in one of their jets. 2352 01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:10,920 Speaker 3: So I'll probably training your planet. 2353 01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:11,920 Speaker 1: You want to train in a jet. 2354 01:33:12,439 --> 01:33:14,639 Speaker 5: No, excuse me, one of their planes. I'm not gonna 2355 01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:15,519 Speaker 5: get like a jet license. 2356 01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:18,400 Speaker 1: That takes like a lot of that's a lot of hours, 2357 01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:19,400 Speaker 1: the fourth license down. 2358 01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:20,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. 2359 01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:22,400 Speaker 5: I do like the forty hour one w's like twenty 2360 01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:25,719 Speaker 5: twenty one days, like hard training and be awesome. 2361 01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:27,519 Speaker 1: You can just go fly wherever. It'd be awesome. Are 2362 01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:28,439 Speaker 1: your instrument as well? 2363 01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:31,360 Speaker 5: Uh? Probably, yeah, in time, if I have enough time 2364 01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:31,680 Speaker 5: to do it. 2365 01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:34,760 Speaker 1: But man, that is sick because serious is like the 2366 01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:37,720 Speaker 1: new coming of age single prop planes. Yeah, they have 2367 01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:40,479 Speaker 1: the thing called SR twenty two little doors that kind 2368 01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:42,880 Speaker 1: of come up. They're like all carbon fiber, like the 2369 01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:44,920 Speaker 1: Lamborghini like butterfly doors. 2370 01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:46,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're sick. 2371 01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:49,080 Speaker 5: They're awesome custom make if you want to get one, 2372 01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:51,680 Speaker 5: they're on back order. I can't really fully afford, like 2373 01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:53,519 Speaker 5: I act my own one, but if you when you 2374 01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:55,559 Speaker 5: when I can, like you can get one like super 2375 01:33:55,640 --> 01:33:56,920 Speaker 5: decked out customize. 2376 01:33:57,400 --> 01:33:58,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, like they're dope. 2377 01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:01,400 Speaker 1: A second picture on the right, that's their their serious 2378 01:34:01,439 --> 01:34:04,040 Speaker 1: business jet. That one yeah, and that thing legit. You 2379 01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:05,880 Speaker 1: will sit in it and it's like an extended sitting 2380 01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:07,240 Speaker 1: in an extended suburban suv. 2381 01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:09,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's super comfortable. 2382 01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:11,519 Speaker 5: There was a single single engine, so the engine problems, 2383 01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:14,840 Speaker 5: they have a parachute at the ploys that for like 2384 01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:17,880 Speaker 5: as its safety feature. Yeah, and it's actually they've actually 2385 01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:19,280 Speaker 5: had to do it like a couple of times, and 2386 01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:20,760 Speaker 5: they say, like every time we do it, it's really 2387 01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:23,000 Speaker 5: cool because it just reconfirms that even though it's a 2388 01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:26,120 Speaker 5: single engine jet, like, we still have redundancies to make 2389 01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:26,960 Speaker 5: sure everyone's safe. 2390 01:34:27,160 --> 01:34:29,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, and if like the pilot gets incapacitated, there's a 2391 01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:31,760 Speaker 1: button on top of the roof. You just press that 2392 01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:35,240 Speaker 1: button and the computer will locate the nearest airport and 2393 01:34:35,320 --> 01:34:35,880 Speaker 1: land for you. 2394 01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:38,120 Speaker 3: No, you don't touch nothing, esus. 2395 01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:42,800 Speaker 4: So you like you enjoy like flying around more than 2396 01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:43,559 Speaker 4: you do like being in. 2397 01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:46,679 Speaker 1: Space, Well, yeah, I haven't been. I haven't been to space. 2398 01:34:47,160 --> 01:34:48,400 Speaker 4: Do you aspire to go to space? 2399 01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:52,000 Speaker 3: That that was a great comeback said it. 2400 01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:53,880 Speaker 4: I was like, oh, yeah, he has no we have 2401 01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:55,000 Speaker 4: to we have to be okay. 2402 01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:56,080 Speaker 1: With the fact that we know we're sitting with a 2403 01:34:56,120 --> 01:34:58,240 Speaker 1: man that's much smarter than us. Sure, I hope to 2404 01:34:58,280 --> 01:35:00,120 Speaker 1: gain whatever knowledge he has to give us, what a 2405 01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:01,519 Speaker 1: droplets of information we can take. 2406 01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:02,479 Speaker 3: We got to soak that in but. 2407 01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:03,839 Speaker 4: Laughing at me for dumb questions. 2408 01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:07,120 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no, I'm telling you it's okay. 2409 01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:12,599 Speaker 5: So I want to go to space, I would say, 2410 01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:15,200 Speaker 5: like I've like thought about it. So every time I 2411 01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:17,160 Speaker 5: go to NASA, the first thing they asked me is like, 2412 01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:20,680 Speaker 5: but when you're gonna start astronaut training? I'm like, dang, 2413 01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:22,479 Speaker 5: you guys are like really serious about this, Like they 2414 01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:24,479 Speaker 5: have me do a whole promo for them for getting 2415 01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:27,000 Speaker 5: people to sign up to be the astronauts and everything, 2416 01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:31,000 Speaker 5: like they're really Like the Bob Cabana, he's the head 2417 01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:32,840 Speaker 5: of Kennedy Space. Every time I see him, he's like, 2418 01:35:33,080 --> 01:35:34,720 Speaker 5: you know, when are you? When are you gonna come 2419 01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:37,559 Speaker 5: work for me and go to space? Like, damn, man, 2420 01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:41,040 Speaker 5: you're really serious about this thing. So I think I 2421 01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:43,120 Speaker 5: think in time, like I probably would. I think that'll 2422 01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:46,160 Speaker 5: be really cool. Yeah, I'm in no rush to do it, 2423 01:35:46,479 --> 01:35:48,920 Speaker 5: like at this point, but with all the stuff going 2424 01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:53,200 Speaker 5: like so much commercial space opportunities are out there, so 2425 01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:55,120 Speaker 5: I think I think it's something I would do down 2426 01:35:55,160 --> 01:35:55,439 Speaker 5: the road. 2427 01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:57,240 Speaker 4: Would you want an internship with space X? 2428 01:35:57,640 --> 01:35:59,000 Speaker 3: Internship with SpaceX? 2429 01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:03,240 Speaker 5: See, I would want to go see what they do 2430 01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:07,280 Speaker 5: because like just so I've so they have a big 2431 01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:11,320 Speaker 5: site down NASA and Florida, and they say, like just 2432 01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:14,880 Speaker 5: talking with the NASA people, like those SpaceX engineers work 2433 01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:16,960 Speaker 5: around the clock. So I went over there, and so 2434 01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:19,840 Speaker 5: they have won the launch pads. They have two launch 2435 01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:21,800 Speaker 5: paths down there. So when they saw their launch paths, 2436 01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:24,080 Speaker 5: and they have their landing zone where they land their 2437 01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:28,320 Speaker 5: rockets like at the space station after they detach, and 2438 01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:30,439 Speaker 5: so just like I've been around them, like I've seen 2439 01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:34,559 Speaker 5: their operation. Those people work like around the clock. I guess, 2440 01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:38,320 Speaker 5: like what they what they've done for the space industry, 2441 01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:41,800 Speaker 5: They've they've changed the game just because of how often, 2442 01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:43,920 Speaker 5: like how much they work, like how many strides they 2443 01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:46,400 Speaker 5: take forward and shorts amount of time, how many rockets 2444 01:36:46,439 --> 01:36:48,599 Speaker 5: they launch. When they launch a rocket like every week 2445 01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:50,160 Speaker 5: and then they land it and reuse it and they 2446 01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:50,840 Speaker 5: launch it again. 2447 01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:51,400 Speaker 3: It's crazy. 2448 01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:56,200 Speaker 5: It's think, is the answer. But I think I think 2449 01:36:56,800 --> 01:36:59,840 Speaker 5: for Twitter, for Twitter, I don't only get I don't 2450 01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:01,120 Speaker 5: get kicked off Twitter. 2451 01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:02,920 Speaker 4: That's hot. But I just wanted to ask that question 2452 01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:04,519 Speaker 4: so that way we had it for whatever clip we 2453 01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:05,320 Speaker 4: want to make in. 2454 01:37:05,400 --> 01:37:11,960 Speaker 5: Case I think exactly, I mean, he's changing the game, Like, yeah, 2455 01:37:12,040 --> 01:37:12,479 Speaker 5: I think. 2456 01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:14,760 Speaker 3: So, yeah, do you think he could easily become a villain? 2457 01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:17,120 Speaker 5: Do I think he could become I mean, I think 2458 01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:18,840 Speaker 5: he has the power to. I don't think he would 2459 01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:25,360 Speaker 5: because everything, everything that he's done, literally has helped civilization 2460 01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:28,800 Speaker 5: like work smoother, Like that's how it starts. Start starlink, 2461 01:37:28,960 --> 01:37:32,560 Speaker 5: they're watching Wi Fi for literally anywhere anywhere in the 2462 01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:34,840 Speaker 5: world you can have Wi Fi Tesla. We know what 2463 01:37:34,920 --> 01:37:37,800 Speaker 5: Tesla's doing with electric cars, you know, And he's like, 2464 01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:42,040 Speaker 5: all the strides that NASA will make to go to 2465 01:37:42,120 --> 01:37:45,360 Speaker 5: the Moon, go to Mars happen because they have companies 2466 01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:47,680 Speaker 5: like SpaceX pushing the envelope. 2467 01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:50,840 Speaker 3: On everything that they're doing. So that's a rocket science answer, 2468 01:37:50,840 --> 01:37:51,160 Speaker 3: that's right. 2469 01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:53,639 Speaker 1: So obviously I don't think you're going to have the answer, 2470 01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:55,479 Speaker 1: And if you do, I can't wait. What is the 2471 01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:58,439 Speaker 1: future for space travel for the normal, for like the 2472 01:37:58,520 --> 01:37:59,720 Speaker 1: general population. 2473 01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:06,320 Speaker 3: So phenomenal, that's a great question for president one day. 2474 01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:09,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say, like in the next the next 2475 01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:11,920 Speaker 5: twenty years, people will be like going to the Moon. 2476 01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:15,919 Speaker 5: I won't won't be it won't be an odd occurrence 2477 01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:19,560 Speaker 5: that normal civil its normal civilians. They want to go 2478 01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:21,320 Speaker 5: to the Moon. They'll have the ability to do it. 2479 01:38:21,960 --> 01:38:24,720 Speaker 5: I think, like there will be people on Mars too soon. 2480 01:38:24,840 --> 01:38:25,960 Speaker 5: I don't know, like how soon. 2481 01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:30,240 Speaker 3: People like what farming like, are they like you want 2482 01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:31,639 Speaker 3: to go on Mars? 2483 01:38:31,680 --> 01:38:34,120 Speaker 5: I mean they're training astronauts to go to Mars actively 2484 01:38:34,640 --> 01:38:39,280 Speaker 5: and live there. Yeah, dude, I mean so the NASA, 2485 01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:41,560 Speaker 5: So I worked on the NASA Artemist project that was 2486 01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:43,640 Speaker 5: to go back to the Moon. So the rocket that 2487 01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:48,200 Speaker 5: I was like working around launched the beginning of December 2488 01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:51,120 Speaker 5: or end of November I believe, and so that was 2489 01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:53,400 Speaker 5: I was unmanned, went to the Moon. It's like a 2490 01:38:53,479 --> 01:38:56,639 Speaker 5: twenty day mission. The circles around the Moon came back, 2491 01:38:56,880 --> 01:38:59,320 Speaker 5: but it is for the next launch in a couple 2492 01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:01,559 Speaker 5: years where they're going and rebuild the rocket is going 2493 01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:03,519 Speaker 5: to take people to the Moon and then like the 2494 01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:05,679 Speaker 5: fourth iteration of that rocket is to go to Mars 2495 01:39:05,800 --> 01:39:07,240 Speaker 5: and then to take people to Mars. 2496 01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:09,880 Speaker 3: So it's close, it's very close. 2497 01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:12,679 Speaker 5: NASA works slower because there's a lot of red tape, 2498 01:39:12,760 --> 01:39:16,000 Speaker 5: there's a lot of political things around it. I mean 2499 01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:18,519 Speaker 5: the president changes every four or eight years, and that 2500 01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:21,439 Speaker 5: really changes, like NASA and like how fast that they 2501 01:39:21,479 --> 01:39:24,439 Speaker 5: can work and move forward. But because the commercial companies 2502 01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:26,400 Speaker 5: want to do it, the government will want to do it, 2503 01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:29,559 Speaker 5: and like so it's going to happen soon. And because 2504 01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:32,439 Speaker 5: also like people are interested in it, people are interested 2505 01:39:32,439 --> 01:39:34,360 Speaker 5: in space. People want to go to space. It's that 2506 01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:37,760 Speaker 5: cool now like it was in the sixties. So that'll 2507 01:39:37,760 --> 01:39:40,240 Speaker 5: be assuming people will be going to the Moon and 2508 01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:41,679 Speaker 5: then shoot Mars as well. 2509 01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:44,439 Speaker 4: Is Josh EU's the smartest guest we've ever had on 2510 01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:45,480 Speaker 4: the podcast. 2511 01:39:46,840 --> 01:39:48,400 Speaker 1: Off the top of my head, yeah, him, And I 2512 01:39:48,439 --> 01:39:50,160 Speaker 1: think number two would probably be like Burt Kreischer. 2513 01:39:52,160 --> 01:39:55,320 Speaker 3: It's a big drop off. It's it's a big. 2514 01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:58,680 Speaker 1: Drop births of phenomenal. He's a very smart individual, but 2515 01:39:58,760 --> 01:39:59,599 Speaker 1: he ain't no rockets. 2516 01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:01,880 Speaker 4: Some of those things where Josh're talking, You're just like, 2517 01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:02,960 Speaker 4: oh yeah, yeah, like. 2518 01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:05,080 Speaker 1: I'm legit, like learning. I feel like I'm like, yeah, 2519 01:40:05,640 --> 01:40:09,439 Speaker 1: I'm enjoying this, appreciate that. Imagine being the first, like 2520 01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:12,000 Speaker 1: the first group of guys and gals that are like, 2521 01:40:12,040 --> 01:40:13,639 Speaker 1: all right, you guys want to go to the moon, 2522 01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:15,439 Speaker 1: and it's like fu, yeah, let's go, and then like 2523 01:40:15,439 --> 01:40:16,479 Speaker 1: a week out that's in like. 2524 01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:17,800 Speaker 3: We're the first ones to do this. 2525 01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:19,160 Speaker 4: Like for vacation too. 2526 01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:22,040 Speaker 2: You remember vacation, like how we're going to Cabo, Like 2527 01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:24,040 Speaker 2: it's hey, I'm getting this tickets, Let's go to the 2528 01:40:24,120 --> 01:40:25,160 Speaker 2: moon for five nights. 2529 01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:26,160 Speaker 4: Yeah I heard. 2530 01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:28,040 Speaker 1: It's great this time of year. Let's go check it out. 2531 01:40:28,240 --> 01:40:30,800 Speaker 3: Yeah dude, Uh what was that? 2532 01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:32,880 Speaker 1: Was that in the nineties when like they sent like 2533 01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:35,200 Speaker 1: teachers up to space and that that blew up? 2534 01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:38,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't it was the Challenger. I want him 2535 01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:40,519 Speaker 3: to quote it. Challenger. Yeah. 2536 01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:43,639 Speaker 4: So they have had your school bus gone wrong? 2537 01:40:43,880 --> 01:40:49,720 Speaker 3: So yo, dude, So NASA has a statement your school bus. 2538 01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:51,320 Speaker 3: Yeah no, I got the joe. 2539 01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:52,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, tough joke. 2540 01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:55,400 Speaker 5: They have a room in the v A B down 2541 01:40:55,439 --> 01:40:59,599 Speaker 5: there where's dedicated to to the crash, and they make 2542 01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:02,720 Speaker 5: all the commercial companies, like all the engineers that come 2543 01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:04,640 Speaker 5: through NASA. You have to go in the room and 2544 01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:07,280 Speaker 5: you literally see the wreckage. You see parts of the 2545 01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:09,439 Speaker 5: shuttle that they went and found and put in the room, 2546 01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:12,600 Speaker 5: all the records and stuff. Just as a reminder that, 2547 01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:15,680 Speaker 5: like every day that you're working, it might be monotonous, 2548 01:41:15,720 --> 01:41:18,320 Speaker 5: it might be shoul's been ten years since they've launched 2549 01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:21,640 Speaker 5: a rocket, but you put people on the rocket, you know, 2550 01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:25,200 Speaker 5: there's actually souls going to space and your work. You know, 2551 01:41:25,320 --> 01:41:28,000 Speaker 5: even though you're looking at the math and it's important, 2552 01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:29,960 Speaker 5: it's even more important with the life factor. 2553 01:41:30,040 --> 01:41:31,040 Speaker 3: So it's pretty cool. 2554 01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:33,080 Speaker 5: It's like you going there, you know, you're like, oh, 2555 01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:35,040 Speaker 5: a NASA is cool, and then you walk in there 2556 01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:36,640 Speaker 5: just puts it all into perspective. 2557 01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:40,760 Speaker 1: Fuck man, crazy too good for this bus? Hey, before 2558 01:41:41,280 --> 01:41:43,200 Speaker 1: before we go do tear talk. While you were talking, 2559 01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:48,479 Speaker 1: I forgot about some part of our conversation. Okay, okay, okay, 2560 01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:50,640 Speaker 1: hurry up and pee. Though you said that you and 2561 01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:52,040 Speaker 1: I have had a couple of run ins before when 2562 01:41:52,160 --> 01:41:53,599 Speaker 1: we ran into each other before, I was just talking 2563 01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:56,479 Speaker 1: about the complex, Okay. I don't know if there was 2564 01:41:56,520 --> 01:41:58,679 Speaker 1: like a drunken, stupidly night. I was I got Losers 2565 01:41:58,760 --> 01:41:59,960 Speaker 1: or something, and you're like, yeah, you were at. 2566 01:42:01,479 --> 01:42:04,719 Speaker 3: What's that I saw? Bender in Arizona was crazy? 2567 01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:05,120 Speaker 4: Ye? 2568 01:42:05,160 --> 01:42:07,919 Speaker 3: A riot house in Arizona, dude, or the super Bowl. 2569 01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:10,720 Speaker 1: That literally was the spot to always old town. I 2570 01:42:10,760 --> 01:42:11,840 Speaker 1: can't stay in old town. 2571 01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:12,200 Speaker 3: Like that though. 2572 01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:15,920 Speaker 5: Old Town was fun for like a couple of days. 2573 01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:17,880 Speaker 5: And then you're like, I'm good, I know, but I. 2574 01:42:18,080 --> 01:42:19,839 Speaker 3: Just see where I grew up in Arizona. 2575 01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:21,760 Speaker 1: I gre up in Cave Creek, and my mom would 2576 01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:24,240 Speaker 1: always have like this personal vendetta against everybody that lives 2577 01:42:24,240 --> 01:42:27,000 Speaker 1: in Scotsdale. We get down there and you see the 2578 01:42:27,040 --> 01:42:29,360 Speaker 1: street signs start to change. You of these rich fucks 2579 01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:31,880 Speaker 1: like they're a bunchet like you would like implement like money. 2580 01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:34,400 Speaker 1: Money's yeah, Money's the enemy in my mind. So I 2581 01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:36,680 Speaker 1: get down to Scotstone like all these fake people out here. 2582 01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:38,720 Speaker 1: I still like at thirty one, I had that scene 2583 01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:40,720 Speaker 1: like programming in my head. I gotta get over that. 2584 01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:42,320 Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta move on from that. 2585 01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:43,120 Speaker 6: Uh. 2586 01:42:43,479 --> 01:42:46,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, old Town is every girl from my not 2587 01:42:46,360 --> 01:42:48,360 Speaker 1: every girl, but most of the girls from my high school, 2588 01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:51,320 Speaker 1: Like they go to college and then they get jobs 2589 01:42:51,400 --> 01:42:53,800 Speaker 1: at like Bottle Blonde and stuff like that. So look 2590 01:42:53,840 --> 01:42:55,080 Speaker 1: key when you go back to when you go back 2591 01:42:55,080 --> 01:42:56,360 Speaker 1: to visit, you're like you kind of feel like the 2592 01:42:56,439 --> 01:42:57,759 Speaker 1: man because you know a whole bunch of people. 2593 01:42:58,200 --> 01:43:01,080 Speaker 3: You're like, you can go and now go. What's crazy 2594 01:43:01,160 --> 01:43:01,519 Speaker 3: to me is. 2595 01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:03,160 Speaker 1: Like when I was at that age, I'd be like, yeah, 2596 01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:04,840 Speaker 1: this is sick. And then you'd see like some thirty 2597 01:43:04,920 --> 01:43:06,240 Speaker 1: year old guy and you're like, what are you doing? 2598 01:43:07,240 --> 01:43:08,560 Speaker 1: Now I'd like think to myself, if I go to 2599 01:43:08,600 --> 01:43:10,639 Speaker 1: old Town, I'm like, I'm fucking that thirty year old guy. 2600 01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:13,240 Speaker 3: Yeah I missed an old fuck Now, No, you can 2601 01:43:13,320 --> 01:43:16,960 Speaker 3: go screw it man. Yeah, I guess may probably not 2602 01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:18,080 Speaker 3: all right. Tier talk. 2603 01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:21,320 Speaker 1: So the way tier Talk's going to work is we're 2604 01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:24,639 Speaker 1: basically tier like the way we UH talk about our audience. 2605 01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:27,160 Speaker 1: We have Tier one fans like they would drink the 2606 01:43:27,240 --> 01:43:29,439 Speaker 1: kool aid. They're in the cult, they're about the business. 2607 01:43:29,920 --> 01:43:33,360 Speaker 1: Here two is like just under Tier one. Obviously they're 2608 01:43:33,560 --> 01:43:36,160 Speaker 1: like they watched, they listen, but they're not like extremely 2609 01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:38,760 Speaker 1: diehard fans. And there's a tier Tier three who are 2610 01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:42,160 Speaker 1: like basic viewers. So in Tier talk, we have our category, 2611 01:43:42,240 --> 01:43:49,160 Speaker 1: which today is jack planets, best planets, best planets, a 2612 01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:51,479 Speaker 1: lot of things. I might we might have a God 2613 01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:53,519 Speaker 1: tier on our hands. To you boys, we might have 2614 01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:57,000 Speaker 1: a God tier. So the whole idea behind that is 2615 01:43:57,520 --> 01:44:00,400 Speaker 1: finding you're gonna go three to one. You can have 2616 01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:03,280 Speaker 1: an honorable mention in there if you want, and then 2617 01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:06,080 Speaker 1: it's going to be uh your third favorite, second favorite, 2618 01:44:06,080 --> 01:44:09,679 Speaker 1: and first favorite planets planets after you finish. And there's 2619 01:44:09,680 --> 01:44:11,240 Speaker 1: a lot of gentlemen on this bus today. I hope 2620 01:44:11,240 --> 01:44:12,920 Speaker 1: the camera can get the camera of everybody on the bus. 2621 01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:16,800 Speaker 1: Plus everybody will go around with their microphone and give 2622 01:44:16,920 --> 01:44:21,200 Speaker 1: one word to describe how they felt about your tier talk. Okay, 2623 01:44:21,280 --> 01:44:22,360 Speaker 1: so there's a lot of pressure here. 2624 01:44:22,920 --> 01:44:23,840 Speaker 3: I'm the only one doing it. 2625 01:44:23,920 --> 01:44:25,479 Speaker 1: No, we're all going to do it, you, Me and Will. 2626 01:44:26,680 --> 01:44:29,880 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a good deal. It's just best okay, 2627 01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:32,560 Speaker 1: best planets. I know it's a weird. That's why I 2628 01:44:32,600 --> 01:44:33,720 Speaker 1: said like it's very elementary. 2629 01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:36,720 Speaker 3: I don't know, uh, I kind of know. 2630 01:44:36,760 --> 01:44:38,640 Speaker 1: I know what my honorable mention is for sure, and 2631 01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:39,840 Speaker 1: I know my tier one is. 2632 01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:40,680 Speaker 3: Would you. 2633 01:44:42,479 --> 01:44:44,240 Speaker 1: I think we might have got here God teers is 2634 01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:47,080 Speaker 1: like you, Me and Will just like say, like our 2635 01:44:47,080 --> 01:44:49,840 Speaker 1: favorite planet is this? It becomes God's here. Now You're 2636 01:44:49,880 --> 01:44:51,040 Speaker 1: tier two? Is now your tier one? 2637 01:44:51,160 --> 01:44:52,599 Speaker 3: Tier three? Blah blah blah. Do you have to find 2638 01:44:52,640 --> 01:44:54,720 Speaker 3: a new Tier three? Go aways? Start us off. 2639 01:44:54,760 --> 01:44:56,960 Speaker 4: I gotta start herself with the tier talk. Yeah, planets. 2640 01:44:58,600 --> 01:45:06,120 Speaker 2: I can't prepared my tier three no honorable mentions. God 2641 01:45:06,200 --> 01:45:08,240 Speaker 2: knows it won't make the graphic. Although it is a 2642 01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:10,320 Speaker 2: new year, new US, New year, new US, your new US. 2643 01:45:10,479 --> 01:45:12,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe you put the honorable mentions in the graphic. 2644 01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:17,439 Speaker 4: Now, yeah, honorable mention. No, I know we're listening. 2645 01:45:17,479 --> 01:45:19,240 Speaker 3: I don't want to be met with that kind of defense. 2646 01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:20,640 Speaker 2: We're doing the thing right now. We're trying to do 2647 01:45:20,720 --> 01:45:25,280 Speaker 2: a bit. Just honorable mention. Shout out to Pluto. I 2648 01:45:25,320 --> 01:45:27,479 Speaker 2: would love to shout out Pluto. I feel like it's 2649 01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:30,200 Speaker 2: somebody you kind of want to get to know planet right, 2650 01:45:30,280 --> 01:45:31,920 Speaker 2: they got exiled, they kind of get kicked out of 2651 01:45:31,920 --> 01:45:33,240 Speaker 2: the classroom. You kind of want to know a little 2652 01:45:33,240 --> 01:45:34,800 Speaker 2: bit about their story. Maybe they got something going on. 2653 01:45:34,840 --> 01:45:36,439 Speaker 2: But I'm gonna give an honorable mention shout out. 2654 01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:37,080 Speaker 3: To Pluto's mind. 2655 01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:38,960 Speaker 4: You maybe go first. You may be go. 2656 01:45:39,280 --> 01:45:41,720 Speaker 3: Know, I don't think you think of it. I don't 2657 01:45:41,720 --> 01:45:42,400 Speaker 3: think you think of it. 2658 01:45:42,720 --> 01:45:44,720 Speaker 2: My Tier three is going to go to Planet l 2659 01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:48,040 Speaker 2: V twelve oh one. You guys might be wondering what 2660 01:45:48,240 --> 01:45:52,519 Speaker 2: that's from. It's it's home to one of the best 2661 01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:55,879 Speaker 2: crossover series that have been made, Alien Versus Predator. 2662 01:45:56,560 --> 01:45:57,559 Speaker 4: It's a breeding ground. 2663 01:45:57,560 --> 01:46:00,720 Speaker 2: It's a planet where it's infested with aliens and predators 2664 01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:02,479 Speaker 2: come every now and in the hunt big game, and 2665 01:46:02,479 --> 01:46:04,040 Speaker 2: they call that that's that's their sport. 2666 01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:06,559 Speaker 4: So my Tier three is gonna go to planet LV 2667 01:46:06,720 --> 01:46:07,599 Speaker 4: twelve zero one. 2668 01:46:09,120 --> 01:46:09,880 Speaker 3: My tier two. 2669 01:46:11,880 --> 01:46:13,920 Speaker 2: The year of getting Jack twenty twenty three my shot. 2670 01:46:14,080 --> 01:46:16,840 Speaker 2: My tier two goes to Planet Fitness. So by making 2671 01:46:16,920 --> 01:46:19,200 Speaker 2: gains and twenty twenty three boys and getting Jack and 2672 01:46:19,240 --> 01:46:21,479 Speaker 2: getting sculpted is one of them. My tier two is 2673 01:46:21,520 --> 01:46:24,760 Speaker 2: Planet Fitness, my tier one, and my tier one is 2674 01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:27,840 Speaker 2: true and dear to my heart, it's a shout out, 2675 01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:29,880 Speaker 2: it's a it's a tip of the cap to a 2676 01:46:30,000 --> 01:46:35,400 Speaker 2: Star Wars daggleba dagoba is a dagglebar dogleg goo bah, 2677 01:46:35,479 --> 01:46:37,880 Speaker 2: there we go. Obviously it's true and dear to my heart. 2678 01:46:37,880 --> 01:46:40,160 Speaker 2: I can't always pronounce the words correctly. I'm not on 2679 01:46:40,240 --> 01:46:43,320 Speaker 2: that alpha brain black label right now. But that's where 2680 01:46:43,439 --> 01:46:48,599 Speaker 2: Yoda was lived in exile after the third Star Wars 2681 01:46:48,640 --> 01:46:51,080 Speaker 2: in the series, in the Swampy Forest, in the Swampy Forest, 2682 01:46:51,360 --> 01:46:54,240 Speaker 2: and brought the hope, the Jedi hope back by training 2683 01:46:54,360 --> 01:46:56,519 Speaker 2: Luke Skywalker and teaching him the ways of the Force. 2684 01:46:57,040 --> 01:47:00,200 Speaker 2: A lot of law of attraction, biblical foundational teaching and 2685 01:47:00,200 --> 01:47:01,679 Speaker 2: philosophies come out of that movie. 2686 01:47:02,040 --> 01:47:07,200 Speaker 3: And it started on Uh. That's my tier one that 2687 01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:09,720 Speaker 3: rounds on my list of favorite planets. That was pretty good. 2688 01:47:11,280 --> 01:47:12,759 Speaker 4: You're kind of thinking about the planets. 2689 01:47:14,439 --> 01:47:18,040 Speaker 3: My list is a little different, all right. One word bloss. 2690 01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:31,479 Speaker 9: The elite, Thank you bloss nice, fictional, right, hilarious, I 2691 01:47:31,640 --> 01:47:31,880 Speaker 9: love it. 2692 01:47:32,520 --> 01:47:41,320 Speaker 2: Wrong, he gets it, he knows that he understands. What's 2693 01:47:41,360 --> 01:47:43,280 Speaker 2: your word to describe my tier? 2694 01:47:43,360 --> 01:47:45,000 Speaker 3: Talk? Solid? 2695 01:47:46,120 --> 01:47:49,920 Speaker 1: Just okay, it's the first word date in my head, imaginative, 2696 01:47:50,720 --> 01:47:51,000 Speaker 1: thank you? 2697 01:47:51,280 --> 01:47:51,679 Speaker 3: Good word? 2698 01:47:52,760 --> 01:47:54,840 Speaker 4: Do I get ask Thomas why he's a fucking hater? Yeah? 2699 01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:59,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah asco Now you can describe it? 2700 01:47:59,360 --> 01:47:59,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, what's up? 2701 01:48:00,120 --> 01:48:00,280 Speaker 2: Day? 2702 01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:00,920 Speaker 3: Describe it? 2703 01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:01,800 Speaker 2: Ba? 2704 01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:04,839 Speaker 3: You know, I just I wasn't thinking in the confine. 2705 01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:06,919 Speaker 10: I was thinking in the confines of our eight planets 2706 01:48:07,000 --> 01:48:11,799 Speaker 10: in reality, you know, not necessarily businesses or fake planets. 2707 01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:16,040 Speaker 3: So I mean, I guess it's not no hate Big 2708 01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:16,800 Speaker 3: Star Wars guys. 2709 01:48:16,880 --> 01:48:19,160 Speaker 1: Sounds like Thomas has really just falling into a lack 2710 01:48:19,160 --> 01:48:19,840 Speaker 1: of imagination. 2711 01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:21,960 Speaker 3: You forgot the child and you Yeah, I will. 2712 01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:24,680 Speaker 10: I'm a total serious guy. There's nothing in me that 2713 01:48:25,040 --> 01:48:29,439 Speaker 10: your beanie says it all. Yeah, my yellow and orange together. 2714 01:48:29,560 --> 01:48:31,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, small town thinking. You're only thinking in. 2715 01:48:31,640 --> 01:48:32,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're in the box. 2716 01:48:32,640 --> 01:48:32,760 Speaker 10: Man. 2717 01:48:33,760 --> 01:48:35,479 Speaker 1: I'm glad we figured out this is a U problem, 2718 01:48:35,560 --> 01:48:36,320 Speaker 1: not a Will problem. 2719 01:48:36,560 --> 01:48:37,479 Speaker 3: That's that's in the box. 2720 01:48:37,560 --> 01:48:38,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, but out of the galaxy. 2721 01:48:38,880 --> 01:48:43,519 Speaker 1: Brother, it's man, thanks wrong, Dobby, you want to go? 2722 01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:46,439 Speaker 4: You want me to go? Or should you? Sure? Do 2723 01:48:46,479 --> 01:48:47,200 Speaker 4: you want Taylor to go? 2724 01:48:48,000 --> 01:48:49,880 Speaker 3: I'll go because I don't. I don't want to go. 2725 01:48:50,040 --> 01:48:52,200 Speaker 5: Last because I don't think mine's gonna be that great. Well, 2726 01:48:52,360 --> 01:48:53,400 Speaker 5: that kind of attitude, I won't. 2727 01:48:55,560 --> 01:48:56,519 Speaker 3: All right, I'll go. 2728 01:48:56,880 --> 01:48:58,559 Speaker 1: The first off, I want to give a shout out 2729 01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:00,840 Speaker 1: to Will Compton. I think he did a nominal job there. 2730 01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:03,599 Speaker 1: I am going to give an honorable mention. My honorable 2731 01:49:03,600 --> 01:49:05,160 Speaker 1: mention will be the same as Wills. It's going to 2732 01:49:05,240 --> 01:49:08,080 Speaker 1: go to Pluto. When I was in third grade, that 2733 01:49:08,200 --> 01:49:10,360 Speaker 1: motherfucker was a planet. Now all of a sudden, you're 2734 01:49:10,360 --> 01:49:12,080 Speaker 1: trying to tell me it's not a planet. Take out 2735 01:49:12,120 --> 01:49:14,639 Speaker 1: my fucking school, and then I had, fuck you school. 2736 01:49:14,920 --> 01:49:17,280 Speaker 1: That is a planet. And I think it was done wrong. 2737 01:49:17,439 --> 01:49:19,519 Speaker 1: I think it was very disrespectful what they did to Pluto. 2738 01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:22,120 Speaker 1: And I think Pluto needs its day. Pluto needs to 2739 01:49:22,160 --> 01:49:25,280 Speaker 1: be talked about more fucking free Pluto, dude, Because this 2740 01:49:25,400 --> 01:49:27,360 Speaker 1: is out in the conference. When I was googling shit, 2741 01:49:27,760 --> 01:49:29,360 Speaker 1: it literally had the eight planets, and they made the 2742 01:49:29,360 --> 01:49:31,240 Speaker 1: planets big enough to where they had the stuff out 2743 01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:33,719 Speaker 1: Pluto's little lass. Like, put Pluto back in the fucking 2744 01:49:33,760 --> 01:49:36,519 Speaker 1: image and just put Pluto, dude, and just go from there. 2745 01:49:36,520 --> 01:49:38,719 Speaker 5: I don't want to cut you off, but Pluto hasn't 2746 01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:41,640 Speaker 5: gone one lap around the Earth in your life. I 2747 01:49:41,720 --> 01:49:43,200 Speaker 5: mean one lap around the Sun in Earth? 2748 01:49:43,240 --> 01:49:44,720 Speaker 3: What does that mean? I mean it's like, it's not 2749 01:49:44,800 --> 01:49:46,320 Speaker 3: a planet. No, no, no, it's hollow. 2750 01:49:46,680 --> 01:49:48,599 Speaker 1: He's followers by its own drums. 2751 01:49:48,600 --> 01:49:50,720 Speaker 3: It's not You'll just want to go in circles all day. 2752 01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:52,439 Speaker 3: I'm out here doing shit. You know what I'm saying. 2753 01:49:52,600 --> 01:49:54,200 Speaker 3: Let me be the longest time to get around. And 2754 01:49:54,200 --> 01:49:56,120 Speaker 3: you see how follow mo fucker's out there. You didn't 2755 01:49:56,120 --> 01:49:56,600 Speaker 3: even see it. 2756 01:49:57,160 --> 01:49:59,840 Speaker 1: We barely see Jupiter sometimes, that bay ass piece of shit. 2757 01:50:01,080 --> 01:50:04,599 Speaker 1: My Tier two, it's gonna go to Neptune, that big 2758 01:50:04,720 --> 01:50:10,600 Speaker 1: blue sorry, my tier three, not my tier two. My 2759 01:50:10,760 --> 01:50:14,120 Speaker 1: Tier three is gonna go to Neptune. That planet is 2760 01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:17,240 Speaker 1: overshadowed by Jupiter, that big ass ball of whatever with 2761 01:50:17,320 --> 01:50:19,599 Speaker 1: that little fucking is that Jupiter with all the gas. 2762 01:50:19,720 --> 01:50:24,360 Speaker 1: It's really big and has that cool hole. Yeah, all right, Neptune. 2763 01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:26,439 Speaker 4: The red Neptune low key. 2764 01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:28,720 Speaker 1: The only reason why it's in my tier talk is 2765 01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:30,559 Speaker 1: anytime I saw a picture, I thought to myself, that's 2766 01:50:30,600 --> 01:50:31,400 Speaker 1: a cute ass planet. 2767 01:50:31,720 --> 01:50:34,360 Speaker 3: That thing's blue, It's beautiful, and I love it. 2768 01:50:34,720 --> 01:50:38,160 Speaker 1: I like Neptune, dude, I like Neptune a lottune. 2769 01:50:38,320 --> 01:50:38,519 Speaker 4: Yeah. 2770 01:50:38,880 --> 01:50:42,200 Speaker 1: My Tier two is Youranus, and you can probably pick 2771 01:50:42,240 --> 01:50:45,880 Speaker 1: together why I thought Tier two should be Uranus, dude, 2772 01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:48,240 Speaker 1: because I think it's somewhere we all want to be. 2773 01:50:49,160 --> 01:50:51,679 Speaker 3: We all want to be in Uranus. Will you like fingering? Dude? 2774 01:50:51,760 --> 01:50:51,960 Speaker 2: Dude? 2775 01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:56,000 Speaker 3: What are you talking about? You do something twice, dude, 2776 01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:56,280 Speaker 3: and all of. 2777 01:50:56,280 --> 01:50:57,320 Speaker 1: A sudden you're a bad guy. 2778 01:50:59,680 --> 01:51:01,439 Speaker 3: Mean dude, what do you mean? 2779 01:51:01,640 --> 01:51:01,760 Speaker 4: Bro? 2780 01:51:02,600 --> 01:51:03,920 Speaker 3: I'm a bad dude, dude. 2781 01:51:03,720 --> 01:51:06,840 Speaker 1: Because I like whatever. I fuck with your anis, Dude, 2782 01:51:07,880 --> 01:51:12,040 Speaker 1: I messed with your anis and my Tier one salute 2783 01:51:12,720 --> 01:51:15,400 Speaker 1: to the earth, dude. You got water, you got gravel, 2784 01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:18,120 Speaker 1: you got that good ass oxygen. People can breathe wherever 2785 01:51:18,200 --> 01:51:20,280 Speaker 1: they want around there. People are bitching about the trees 2786 01:51:20,280 --> 01:51:20,800 Speaker 1: and stuff too. 2787 01:51:20,840 --> 01:51:20,960 Speaker 4: Bro. 2788 01:51:21,080 --> 01:51:23,000 Speaker 1: They were the only place that you can just get 2789 01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:25,200 Speaker 1: out and go and be all right without a doubt, 2790 01:51:25,200 --> 01:51:27,920 Speaker 1: without a dumb ass mask on. You be grateful. Yeah, 2791 01:51:28,000 --> 01:51:30,080 Speaker 1: we could probably save more trees. Plant a couple, dude. 2792 01:51:30,240 --> 01:51:31,760 Speaker 1: We should do that this year for twenty twenty three. 2793 01:51:31,840 --> 01:51:33,320 Speaker 1: Not only get Jack, but planet a couple of trees. 2794 01:51:33,640 --> 01:51:35,599 Speaker 1: Help out this beautiful Earth. That is my tiar Talk 2795 01:51:35,680 --> 01:51:37,599 Speaker 1: the Earth get jacked, Help the Earth get Jack, dude, 2796 01:51:37,840 --> 01:51:38,800 Speaker 1: helpe the Earth get Jack. 2797 01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:41,840 Speaker 3: I will before you guys, do your one word. I 2798 01:51:41,880 --> 01:51:42,280 Speaker 3: didn't like that. 2799 01:51:42,360 --> 01:51:45,559 Speaker 1: I was interrupted multiple times. All right, do it if 2800 01:51:45,600 --> 01:51:46,880 Speaker 1: you need to put that into one year one word, 2801 01:51:46,920 --> 01:51:49,360 Speaker 1: that's fine. But just know that pissed me off a 2802 01:51:49,400 --> 01:51:50,920 Speaker 1: little bit. Dude, that's fair. 2803 01:51:51,040 --> 01:51:53,960 Speaker 4: That is Yeah. I apologize too, Thank you. My question 2804 01:51:54,080 --> 01:51:55,960 Speaker 4: was going to be like, why were you so angry 2805 01:51:56,000 --> 01:51:56,960 Speaker 4: persenting the whole time? 2806 01:51:57,720 --> 01:51:58,200 Speaker 3: I don't know. 2807 01:51:59,200 --> 01:52:06,720 Speaker 1: I was passionate, No, ugly ass, you're mad. I got 2808 01:52:06,800 --> 01:52:09,840 Speaker 1: mad about Pluto because I remember being that. I remember 2809 01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:12,080 Speaker 1: being in third grade being like, that's a cute ass 2810 01:52:12,120 --> 01:52:14,600 Speaker 1: little dot like hanging out, and then all of a 2811 01:52:14,600 --> 01:52:17,680 Speaker 1: sudden it was just gone. And there's really no explanation there, 2812 01:52:17,760 --> 01:52:19,640 Speaker 1: just like, no, it's a star or what is it 2813 01:52:19,680 --> 01:52:19,920 Speaker 1: a star? 2814 01:52:20,400 --> 01:52:24,040 Speaker 3: The thing is a satellite? Considered a satellite? Now either 2815 01:52:24,160 --> 01:52:28,160 Speaker 3: is her WiFi? Now? Is it is it a satellite. 2816 01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:30,360 Speaker 4: Neptune. 2817 01:52:31,240 --> 01:52:34,519 Speaker 5: Yeah, Neptune. Neptune. Nepto is massive, massive. Just too small, 2818 01:52:35,960 --> 01:52:37,759 Speaker 5: that's it. Yeah, it's just too small. 2819 01:52:37,960 --> 01:52:40,960 Speaker 3: He got the little guy. That's crazy, dude. You know, 2820 01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:44,360 Speaker 3: rules at me. I'm just reporting the news. 2821 01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:45,920 Speaker 1: Darren Sproles was too small. 2822 01:52:47,040 --> 01:52:47,599 Speaker 3: Look at him. 2823 01:52:48,000 --> 01:52:50,360 Speaker 1: Proven the hater is wrong. My boy Deuce out in 2824 01:52:50,479 --> 01:52:53,240 Speaker 1: Kansas State. They said he was too small. Blake krn 2825 01:52:53,360 --> 01:52:57,360 Speaker 1: was too small. We'll see, we'll see. Just can't be 2826 01:52:57,360 --> 01:52:58,200 Speaker 1: football players. 2827 01:52:57,960 --> 01:52:59,880 Speaker 3: Because they're small. It'll be back, It'll be better, be 2828 01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:01,080 Speaker 3: a difference. 2829 01:53:01,080 --> 01:53:03,320 Speaker 1: Well, I apologize for my anger coming out, but Pluto 2830 01:53:03,400 --> 01:53:05,439 Speaker 1: did rough me up a little bit. 2831 01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:05,800 Speaker 3: Boyce. 2832 01:53:05,880 --> 01:53:10,600 Speaker 1: One word passionate, thank you, vulgar. 2833 01:53:12,520 --> 01:53:24,880 Speaker 11: Intergalactic mm hmmm, intense, grateful, thank you, cosmic, invigorating. 2834 01:53:27,080 --> 01:53:27,519 Speaker 4: Passion. 2835 01:53:30,439 --> 01:53:32,280 Speaker 3: I'll think all that. I'll think all. 2836 01:53:32,640 --> 01:53:35,680 Speaker 5: Yours is very truthful. I'm like Will's his His was 2837 01:53:35,720 --> 01:53:37,120 Speaker 5: a little fantasy, you know. 2838 01:53:37,400 --> 01:53:39,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, I loved I'm coming from the heart. 2839 01:53:39,640 --> 01:53:41,920 Speaker 1: Also, before you go, Mitch, I feel like you just 2840 01:53:42,040 --> 01:53:44,519 Speaker 1: find out a word in your head and regardless of 2841 01:53:44,600 --> 01:53:46,600 Speaker 1: what anyone says, like you this, that's what you do 2842 01:53:49,160 --> 01:53:52,800 Speaker 1: in intergalactic It was a cool word and I enjoyed that, 2843 01:53:53,040 --> 01:53:55,439 Speaker 1: but I also thought to myself, that's not genuine. That's 2844 01:53:55,520 --> 01:53:57,400 Speaker 1: just something he thought to himself as he was talking. 2845 01:53:58,040 --> 01:53:59,439 Speaker 1: And he's like, Oh, it's a cool big word. I'm 2846 01:53:59,439 --> 01:53:59,840 Speaker 1: gonna say. 2847 01:54:00,200 --> 01:54:03,559 Speaker 3: And you got what you wanted? Did you really? 2848 01:54:04,720 --> 01:54:06,760 Speaker 4: Buzz Lighter said this in toy story. I'm gonna use that. 2849 01:54:07,760 --> 01:54:10,000 Speaker 3: Hi, Josh, you're up, dude, I'm up? All right? 2850 01:54:10,800 --> 01:54:14,120 Speaker 5: My honorable mention to start because everyone pronounces it wrong. 2851 01:54:14,200 --> 01:54:18,599 Speaker 5: It's Uranus, not youur Inus only for its pronunciation issues, 2852 01:54:18,640 --> 01:54:22,439 Speaker 5: all right? Tier three. Tier three will start with Venus 2853 01:54:22,880 --> 01:54:25,680 Speaker 5: is Earth's evil twin. I just think it's sick, like 2854 01:54:25,720 --> 01:54:27,640 Speaker 5: if you just look at the science behind it. They 2855 01:54:27,680 --> 01:54:32,440 Speaker 5: have like crazy hailstorms. It's just an intense planet. My 2856 01:54:32,560 --> 01:54:36,480 Speaker 5: Tier two is Mars because it's the future of human civilization, 2857 01:54:36,920 --> 01:54:39,760 Speaker 5: is where we're going next. And my Tier one is Earth, 2858 01:54:40,440 --> 01:54:42,320 Speaker 5: just like Taylor, thankful to be here? 2859 01:54:43,560 --> 01:54:45,720 Speaker 2: Why do is Earth? Why is Earth and Venus? Why 2860 01:54:45,760 --> 01:54:48,640 Speaker 2: are they considered twins? Because we live on Venus. 2861 01:54:48,640 --> 01:54:51,120 Speaker 5: They're the same size, same mass, but like everything Earth 2862 01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:55,600 Speaker 5: has like oxygen and nitrogen, like Venus has the exact opposite. 2863 01:54:55,760 --> 01:54:58,200 Speaker 1: So no, we can't live What's the opposite of for 2864 01:54:58,320 --> 01:55:01,040 Speaker 1: those people that don't know, I think it's it's. 2865 01:55:00,920 --> 01:55:01,880 Speaker 3: Like very high. 2866 01:55:03,800 --> 01:55:05,840 Speaker 5: I think like carbon die. I don't know all the science, 2867 01:55:05,880 --> 01:55:08,000 Speaker 5: but I did it. I learned it one time. I 2868 01:55:08,040 --> 01:55:09,120 Speaker 5: was like, oh, that sounds pretty cool. 2869 01:55:09,360 --> 01:55:09,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 2870 01:55:09,600 --> 01:55:11,440 Speaker 2: I just love the fact that you asked the question, 2871 01:55:11,480 --> 01:55:13,360 Speaker 2: because you're like, I'm sure people out there like like 2872 01:55:13,440 --> 01:55:14,680 Speaker 2: we're all in class right now. 2873 01:55:16,120 --> 01:55:20,680 Speaker 3: A question? Yeah, Hey, well you just cost you cost 2874 01:55:20,720 --> 01:55:23,480 Speaker 3: all over me like spin in my arm. 2875 01:55:24,160 --> 01:55:26,400 Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I don't think. I don't think all right anything? 2876 01:55:28,360 --> 01:55:37,480 Speaker 3: All right? One word bloss knowledge mm hmm, stellar, here 2877 01:55:37,520 --> 01:55:48,879 Speaker 3: we go, straightforward words. That's a hyphenphenated words here educated. 2878 01:55:51,160 --> 01:55:52,240 Speaker 3: You better not say it again. 2879 01:55:53,600 --> 01:55:54,320 Speaker 4: Smart hat. 2880 01:55:56,600 --> 01:56:06,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks malone hyphen milky way Mmm yeah, we'll put 2881 01:56:06,520 --> 01:56:08,840 Speaker 6: an I there informative. 2882 01:56:09,240 --> 01:56:12,200 Speaker 3: Thank you. That was good, dude, that was good. 2883 01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:14,000 Speaker 2: Should be included them on the shoutout no free shoutout 2884 01:56:14,240 --> 01:56:16,720 Speaker 2: if we want to you are you familiar with shoutout 2885 01:56:16,760 --> 01:56:17,360 Speaker 2: no free shutout? 2886 01:56:17,600 --> 01:56:17,920 Speaker 3: What's that? 2887 01:56:18,720 --> 01:56:18,760 Speaker 1: So? 2888 01:56:18,840 --> 01:56:19,960 Speaker 4: You've never watched an episode? 2889 01:56:20,560 --> 01:56:22,840 Speaker 3: I've watched it. I haven't watched a full episode. You 2890 01:56:22,920 --> 01:56:23,600 Speaker 3: just watched the clips? 2891 01:56:23,760 --> 01:56:24,160 Speaker 7: Ye? Fair? 2892 01:56:24,280 --> 01:56:26,320 Speaker 3: Tier three of you. We have a lot. 2893 01:56:26,360 --> 01:56:27,680 Speaker 4: We have a big Tier three fan base. 2894 01:56:27,720 --> 01:56:29,760 Speaker 1: Okay, so shout out no free shadows our favorite segment 2895 01:56:29,800 --> 01:56:32,000 Speaker 1: of the week. The way we phrase shout out, no 2896 01:56:32,080 --> 01:56:34,840 Speaker 1: free shadow is on this podcast. We're not gonna shout 2897 01:56:34,840 --> 01:56:36,320 Speaker 1: you off. We're not gonna shout you out. You got 2898 01:56:36,440 --> 01:56:39,080 Speaker 1: to you gotta pay to play in this game. This 2899 01:56:39,240 --> 01:56:41,400 Speaker 1: is our opportunity to dish out a couple of shout 2900 01:56:41,400 --> 01:56:44,480 Speaker 1: outs to those small little things in life that maybe 2901 01:56:44,520 --> 01:56:47,960 Speaker 1: are overlooked or underappreciated. So we will all go first, 2902 01:56:49,000 --> 01:56:50,440 Speaker 1: and then you may have the floor if you would 2903 01:56:50,520 --> 01:56:52,240 Speaker 1: like to bloss. 2904 01:56:53,840 --> 01:56:54,160 Speaker 3: Just us. 2905 01:56:55,000 --> 01:56:56,440 Speaker 1: All right, you want to go first time, We go first, 2906 01:56:57,440 --> 01:56:57,840 Speaker 1: Go ahead. 2907 01:56:58,840 --> 01:57:02,280 Speaker 4: It happened this morning. My shout out, no free shout out. 2908 01:57:03,240 --> 01:57:07,880 Speaker 3: Goes to I forget how man you want me to? 2909 01:57:09,440 --> 01:57:13,040 Speaker 1: My shout out, no free shout out goes to when 2910 01:57:13,040 --> 01:57:15,680 Speaker 1: you're at the cash register and you're speaking to somebody 2911 01:57:15,800 --> 01:57:17,800 Speaker 1: and they look at you and they say, all right, 2912 01:57:17,800 --> 01:57:19,520 Speaker 1: that'll be however much money at twelve forty nine, And 2913 01:57:19,560 --> 01:57:21,560 Speaker 1: you put your credit card in, and then they take 2914 01:57:21,600 --> 01:57:23,480 Speaker 1: the little white thing and they spin it back to 2915 01:57:23,640 --> 01:57:26,800 Speaker 1: them and they don't give themselves a tip because they 2916 01:57:26,840 --> 01:57:29,000 Speaker 1: realize they turn it too fast, and they press, no tip. 2917 01:57:29,200 --> 01:57:30,960 Speaker 1: They were the bad guy for themselves. They took that 2918 01:57:31,280 --> 01:57:33,520 Speaker 1: extra initiative. Yeah, and so you kind of walk away 2919 01:57:33,640 --> 01:57:35,680 Speaker 1: being like, damn, they actually deserve a tip now for 2920 01:57:35,800 --> 01:57:38,720 Speaker 1: not taking a tip for themselves. But the integrity of 2921 01:57:38,760 --> 01:57:43,040 Speaker 1: that individual. Wow, that's incredible. The good shout out, thank 2922 01:57:43,080 --> 01:57:44,400 Speaker 1: you much about that. 2923 01:57:44,480 --> 01:57:44,920 Speaker 3: On the SPUs. 2924 01:57:45,280 --> 01:57:46,000 Speaker 4: My shout out no. 2925 01:57:46,000 --> 01:57:49,800 Speaker 2: Free shoutout goes to love at first taste, when you 2926 01:57:49,920 --> 01:57:51,560 Speaker 2: get that when you take it, whether it's a swig, 2927 01:57:51,720 --> 01:57:54,080 Speaker 2: have that first bite and you get that electric shock 2928 01:57:54,200 --> 01:57:56,600 Speaker 2: down both your jaws that you just tasted something nice. 2929 01:57:56,920 --> 01:57:57,160 Speaker 3: Dude. 2930 01:57:57,480 --> 01:57:59,520 Speaker 2: It goes out to that little subtle difference that makes 2931 01:57:59,560 --> 01:58:00,920 Speaker 2: in your day, cause when you taste something this But 2932 01:58:01,120 --> 01:58:03,160 Speaker 2: it was after a hard workout. I took a U 2933 01:58:03,920 --> 01:58:07,120 Speaker 2: I took a drink of that drink you put me on, yeah, Celsius, Celsius, 2934 01:58:07,160 --> 01:58:09,840 Speaker 2: so Celsius drinks. I took the little peach flavored and 2935 01:58:09,960 --> 01:58:12,000 Speaker 2: it rocked my job dude, And I was like, dude, 2936 01:58:12,080 --> 01:58:14,120 Speaker 2: I'm in heaven. Yeah, I'm glad to be out of 2937 01:58:14,160 --> 01:58:18,520 Speaker 2: this workout sipping some liquid with the boys. So my 2938 01:58:18,720 --> 01:58:21,600 Speaker 2: shout out, my shout out no free shoutout goes to 2939 01:58:21,800 --> 01:58:23,120 Speaker 2: love at first taste. 2940 01:58:24,720 --> 01:58:27,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a good one dude there at the end. 2941 01:58:27,800 --> 01:58:29,520 Speaker 4: But I was tripping a little bit, but I caught myself. 2942 01:58:29,920 --> 01:58:32,280 Speaker 3: All right, Josh, you want to give one, I'll give one. 2943 01:58:32,280 --> 01:58:32,760 Speaker 3: I'll give one. 2944 01:58:33,200 --> 01:58:35,400 Speaker 5: My shout out, no free shadows, I say, all right, 2945 01:58:35,440 --> 01:58:38,480 Speaker 5: my shoutout, no free shoutout goes to sleeping your own bed. 2946 01:58:39,040 --> 01:58:41,080 Speaker 5: You know, when you when you're traveling on the road, 2947 01:58:41,680 --> 01:58:44,320 Speaker 5: you haven't been home for a long time, just the 2948 01:58:44,360 --> 01:58:46,200 Speaker 5: first time you're able to look at your bed, jumping 2949 01:58:46,240 --> 01:58:49,600 Speaker 5: in and sleeping. It just that sensation of being home. 2950 01:58:50,080 --> 01:58:54,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good, good shoutout because them covers will 2951 01:58:54,240 --> 01:58:57,360 Speaker 2: touch you nice. Bro. The next way, Yeah, then you're 2952 01:58:57,520 --> 01:58:58,880 Speaker 2: rocked up. Next second, you don't know what to do. 2953 01:58:58,920 --> 01:58:59,840 Speaker 2: You're like, am I going to go to bed? 2954 01:59:00,040 --> 01:59:01,320 Speaker 4: Now? Am I going to finish this boy off? 2955 01:59:01,440 --> 01:59:01,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? 2956 01:59:02,600 --> 01:59:04,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what's what you. 2957 01:59:04,560 --> 01:59:05,720 Speaker 3: Start like, straightening your legs? 2958 01:59:05,760 --> 01:59:06,560 Speaker 4: Is stiffening your legs? 2959 01:59:06,960 --> 01:59:09,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, He's like, what are we doing? 2960 01:59:09,760 --> 01:59:14,080 Speaker 1: And he kind of comes out the seat you Yeah, dude, 2961 01:59:14,280 --> 01:59:15,640 Speaker 1: nothing like jerking off in your own bed. 2962 01:59:16,560 --> 01:59:19,000 Speaker 3: Shout out. That was Josh Jobs is jerking off in 2963 01:59:19,000 --> 01:59:24,640 Speaker 3: your own bed, Josh Jobs. Much there is a nice 2964 01:59:24,640 --> 01:59:26,560 Speaker 3: little deal when you get in like a from the opposite, 2965 01:59:26,600 --> 01:59:28,600 Speaker 3: like you get in a hotel room, you locked that 2966 01:59:28,720 --> 01:59:30,160 Speaker 3: door and the night is over. 2967 01:59:31,240 --> 01:59:34,880 Speaker 1: Take that generic ass, little watery ass lotion. You're like 2968 01:59:34,960 --> 01:59:37,280 Speaker 1: you're about to have Hell. You look at your little 2969 01:59:37,280 --> 01:59:38,440 Speaker 1: buddy and you go, you know what's up? 2970 01:59:38,640 --> 01:59:41,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, see, I'm lazy though I don't think. Uh, I 2971 01:59:41,280 --> 01:59:43,200 Speaker 2: don't think lotion. Like I want my hands to kind 2972 01:59:43,200 --> 01:59:44,600 Speaker 2: of stay dry, so I just get that rag. 2973 01:59:45,080 --> 01:59:46,600 Speaker 4: Really, yeah, I'm rag. I'm straight. 2974 01:59:46,720 --> 01:59:49,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think that little that little water lotion 2975 01:59:49,760 --> 01:59:52,000 Speaker 1: needs the Yeah, hotel. 2976 01:59:51,760 --> 01:59:54,040 Speaker 3: Room, you gotta get up and wash your hands after, Nah, 2977 01:59:54,720 --> 01:59:56,520 Speaker 3: I don't you just wipe it with the. 2978 01:59:56,520 --> 01:59:58,000 Speaker 1: Same Yeah, I kind of get right, you know, when 2979 01:59:58,040 --> 02:00:00,000 Speaker 1: you have the ragged you have like that hard stream 2980 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:01,880 Speaker 1: week after like you got to like like you're taking 2981 02:00:01,920 --> 02:00:03,880 Speaker 1: off a layer of skin with that rag and the 2982 02:00:03,960 --> 02:00:05,600 Speaker 1: next day you wake up and you're like the scent 2983 02:00:05,720 --> 02:00:06,400 Speaker 1: is still there. 2984 02:00:06,440 --> 02:00:07,080 Speaker 4: Which is nice. 2985 02:00:07,880 --> 02:00:09,800 Speaker 1: It's all right, Like something the best said you can 2986 02:00:09,840 --> 02:00:12,560 Speaker 1: probably get is like eucalyptus or lavender, but usually it's 2987 02:00:12,600 --> 02:00:14,760 Speaker 1: that plain Jane, like you know there's lotion there. But 2988 02:00:14,840 --> 02:00:16,600 Speaker 1: then you think to yourself, are people going to realize 2989 02:00:16,640 --> 02:00:17,880 Speaker 1: this los is only on one hand. 2990 02:00:18,080 --> 02:00:21,360 Speaker 2: And I got after it last week with some conditioner. 2991 02:00:21,600 --> 02:00:27,760 Speaker 2: Oh matter of fact, those dukes, Duke Cannon is their conditioner. Yeah, 2992 02:00:28,560 --> 02:00:32,120 Speaker 2: Duke Cannon conditioner had this nice minty smell. 2993 02:00:32,240 --> 02:00:34,720 Speaker 3: That can hurt. Though it can hurt, but it felt nice. 2994 02:00:34,760 --> 02:00:36,720 Speaker 4: I had the cooling sensation afterwards a little bit. 2995 02:00:36,720 --> 02:00:38,960 Speaker 3: I was a little frightened because of my story, right, 2996 02:00:39,240 --> 02:00:40,120 Speaker 3: but it wasn't like that. 2997 02:00:40,200 --> 02:00:40,760 Speaker 4: It was nice. 2998 02:00:40,920 --> 02:00:43,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. Have you do you remember the first time you 2999 02:00:44,040 --> 02:00:47,240 Speaker 3: masturbate him? Do you remember the first time you did? 3000 02:00:47,920 --> 02:00:48,160 Speaker 3: Do you? 3001 02:00:48,520 --> 02:00:50,760 Speaker 2: We've talked about it before on the pot like pod. Yeah, Like, 3002 02:00:50,800 --> 02:00:52,120 Speaker 2: I'll tell you. It's your own story to tell if 3003 02:00:52,160 --> 02:00:53,600 Speaker 2: you want to tell it. Yeah, I'll tell you my 3004 02:00:53,720 --> 02:00:55,800 Speaker 2: I remember my first time. I remember like it was yesterday. 3005 02:00:55,840 --> 02:00:58,920 Speaker 5: I don't really want to know your first time he 3006 02:00:59,080 --> 02:01:01,520 Speaker 5: was around the line. I appreciate your openness though, I do. 3007 02:01:01,720 --> 02:01:02,800 Speaker 5: I really do appreciate it. 3008 02:01:02,880 --> 02:01:08,240 Speaker 3: You know LimeWire was involved. Are you sure? Are you 3009 02:01:08,280 --> 02:01:13,560 Speaker 3: sure you don't want to we talked about on the pod. Yeah, 3010 02:01:13,600 --> 02:01:16,320 Speaker 3: I'll go Adam twenty two so you don't. 3011 02:01:16,320 --> 02:01:18,000 Speaker 1: I won't assume you don't want to talk about your 3012 02:01:18,000 --> 02:01:19,320 Speaker 1: first time masturbating. 3013 02:01:18,920 --> 02:01:21,400 Speaker 5: On I'll probably pass. It's maybe maybe my second time. 3014 02:01:21,440 --> 02:01:23,480 Speaker 2: It's probably smart just because you got like Nass and 3015 02:01:23,560 --> 02:01:24,720 Speaker 2: some big ship in your future. 3016 02:01:24,760 --> 02:01:29,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's watching this podcast right now. Yeah, mush, he masturbated. 3017 02:01:29,480 --> 02:01:30,440 Speaker 1: Never mind, but some. 3018 02:01:30,480 --> 02:01:32,640 Speaker 3: Homies and NAST and it's like, oh, they're on, they're 3019 02:01:32,680 --> 02:01:35,000 Speaker 3: on this podcast. I want to watch Josh Thopps. Yeah, look, 3020 02:01:35,080 --> 02:01:37,240 Speaker 3: getting guys, you know, some some new viewership. 3021 02:01:37,360 --> 02:01:38,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be cool. 3022 02:01:38,840 --> 02:01:41,480 Speaker 3: It's cool. It's gonna be more of the University of Tennessee. 3023 02:01:41,520 --> 02:01:44,240 Speaker 2: It feels seems like you're like I loved there's Peyton 3024 02:01:44,240 --> 02:01:45,800 Speaker 2: Manning and there's probably Josh Opps. 3025 02:01:46,120 --> 02:01:48,840 Speaker 3: Yes, what about what about the last of the game? 3026 02:01:48,880 --> 02:01:50,760 Speaker 3: He saw he saw it at the game. I saw, Yeah, 3027 02:01:50,760 --> 02:01:51,040 Speaker 3: I saw. 3028 02:01:51,080 --> 02:01:52,520 Speaker 4: That's why I'm saying that, Yeah. 3029 02:01:52,440 --> 02:01:54,320 Speaker 5: The game that the games are hilarious, just like the 3030 02:01:54,960 --> 02:01:57,760 Speaker 5: like I mean, just like going upstairs and just like 3031 02:01:57,840 --> 02:01:58,680 Speaker 5: the whole process of it. 3032 02:01:58,800 --> 02:02:00,680 Speaker 4: They're all about. They're all about Josh stops. 3033 02:02:00,720 --> 02:02:00,920 Speaker 2: Dude. 3034 02:02:00,960 --> 02:02:02,800 Speaker 3: That's awesome. That's an incredible feeling. 3035 02:02:02,800 --> 02:02:03,960 Speaker 1: You do you feel that the rest of your life 3036 02:02:04,200 --> 02:02:05,680 Speaker 1: live you should go at least once a year of 3037 02:02:05,680 --> 02:02:07,600 Speaker 1: the rest of your life just to get that ego boost, just. 3038 02:02:07,920 --> 02:02:09,480 Speaker 3: Just like if I'm feeling down on myself, I just 3039 02:02:09,520 --> 02:02:13,960 Speaker 3: should go to No, oh it's fall not for long, No, 3040 02:02:14,040 --> 02:02:14,320 Speaker 3: it was not. 3041 02:02:14,400 --> 02:02:15,680 Speaker 4: I got to meet him. I had the privilege of 3042 02:02:15,720 --> 02:02:17,600 Speaker 4: meeting him in right in front of the elevator. 3043 02:02:17,600 --> 02:02:20,320 Speaker 2: I remember it clearly, and I was thinking, don't overplay 3044 02:02:20,320 --> 02:02:22,240 Speaker 2: your hand, Will and you should come on the bus 3045 02:02:22,280 --> 02:02:22,600 Speaker 2: one day. 3046 02:02:23,240 --> 02:02:25,560 Speaker 1: Do you say you should come on the bus. There's 3047 02:02:25,560 --> 02:02:26,920 Speaker 1: always trying to get people on the bus like that. 3048 02:02:27,120 --> 02:02:30,320 Speaker 1: I'm always at the recruiting always ABC, always be closing. 3049 02:02:30,480 --> 02:02:32,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. My sales tactic, We'll 3050 02:02:32,840 --> 02:02:34,960 Speaker 3: got some strings. Though, he was in the Chancellor's box, 3051 02:02:35,400 --> 02:02:37,520 Speaker 3: he was up there. I saw you. You really like that? 3052 02:02:38,360 --> 02:02:40,000 Speaker 4: He said, you really like that? 3053 02:02:40,600 --> 02:02:44,080 Speaker 2: You really And I knew there was underground because of 3054 02:02:44,160 --> 02:02:47,560 Speaker 2: Jack too. Like Jack goes like he leaves but the bus. Yeah, 3055 02:02:47,680 --> 02:02:48,640 Speaker 2: he leaves us for like a. 3056 02:02:48,640 --> 02:02:51,320 Speaker 4: Week a week every year ago film for his camp. 3057 02:02:51,960 --> 02:03:00,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, damn that's cool. But anything else? What do you y'all? 3058 02:03:00,320 --> 02:03:02,040 Speaker 3: Play golf? I like to try. 3059 02:03:02,160 --> 02:03:03,840 Speaker 4: I like to smoke cigars and play music and have 3060 02:03:03,880 --> 02:03:04,320 Speaker 4: a good time. 3061 02:03:04,480 --> 02:03:07,960 Speaker 5: I mean, it's just open bar at the golf course basically, 3062 02:03:08,200 --> 02:03:10,320 Speaker 5: so you guys gotta come play playing the golf tournament 3063 02:03:10,360 --> 02:03:10,600 Speaker 5: this year. 3064 02:03:10,760 --> 02:03:11,560 Speaker 4: You have golf tournament. 3065 02:03:11,640 --> 02:03:14,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, in Knoxville, that's what you're saying. Chase Rice, Chase 3066 02:03:14,400 --> 02:03:17,520 Speaker 3: Rice Horney, Chase Rice came. He played at it. Last 3067 02:03:17,560 --> 02:03:19,640 Speaker 3: year was the first year. Chase. Yeah, you'll gotta pull up. 3068 02:03:19,640 --> 02:03:20,560 Speaker 3: This year's fine. Where is it? 3069 02:03:21,000 --> 02:03:23,880 Speaker 5: It's that Tennessee National just right out of Naxtville, like 3070 02:03:24,120 --> 02:03:26,160 Speaker 5: on the weekend of the Spring Game. So all the 3071 02:03:26,400 --> 02:03:27,880 Speaker 5: all the vfls come back and playing it. 3072 02:03:29,120 --> 02:03:30,080 Speaker 4: What weekend is that? 3073 02:03:30,520 --> 02:03:30,840 Speaker 2: It is? 3074 02:03:31,280 --> 02:03:35,800 Speaker 3: The weeked it with April, third week in April. That's 3075 02:03:35,840 --> 02:03:37,200 Speaker 3: a busy time for the boys and the bus. 3076 02:03:37,640 --> 02:03:39,040 Speaker 4: We're doing a little spring tour. 3077 02:03:39,360 --> 02:03:42,280 Speaker 1: Well, we could do knox Well, were we doing Knoxville again, 3078 02:03:42,280 --> 02:03:44,200 Speaker 1: I don't think we were. I don't know we could 3079 02:03:44,280 --> 02:03:44,480 Speaker 1: make that. 3080 02:03:44,720 --> 02:03:46,120 Speaker 2: We don't want to give anybody out their hope that 3081 02:03:46,160 --> 02:03:48,040 Speaker 2: we could be rolling through Knoxville again. We're trying to 3082 02:03:48,040 --> 02:03:49,320 Speaker 2: put together a fun little spring tours. 3083 02:03:49,360 --> 02:03:51,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're around just I don't really golf, but 3084 02:03:51,520 --> 02:03:54,600 Speaker 1: I'll go yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, I have Thomas doesn't 3085 02:03:54,600 --> 02:03:55,760 Speaker 1: golf Bruise with the boys. 3086 02:03:56,000 --> 02:04:00,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, hopefully Chase is there get them back. Yeah, point 3087 02:04:01,040 --> 02:04:07,000 Speaker 3: won't play again. Chasing we ask all our questions. Is 3088 02:04:07,040 --> 02:04:09,520 Speaker 3: there anything any questions from Jack Tennessee fan. 3089 02:04:10,520 --> 02:04:14,200 Speaker 4: I mean, I know we're mean anything that. 3090 02:04:15,760 --> 02:04:16,760 Speaker 3: A friend right right there, the. 3091 02:04:17,040 --> 02:04:19,600 Speaker 12: Most memorable moment as a as a volunteer, I wanted 3092 02:04:19,680 --> 02:04:22,520 Speaker 12: him to walk through the most iconic play from his 3093 02:04:22,640 --> 02:04:26,120 Speaker 12: career at Tennessee, which was the Georgia Hail Mary. Fans, 3094 02:04:26,160 --> 02:04:28,680 Speaker 12: it was it was like, not just to play it 3095 02:04:28,760 --> 02:04:30,720 Speaker 12: so for the game, but we had a string of 3096 02:04:30,840 --> 02:04:33,320 Speaker 12: weeks where we was at the first time, we beat Florida, 3097 02:04:33,320 --> 02:04:39,360 Speaker 12: the week before crazy game came back, went against Florida, 3098 02:04:39,440 --> 02:04:44,120 Speaker 12: and then the Hail Mary that Josh threw to Yeah 3099 02:04:44,280 --> 02:04:46,040 Speaker 12: you want I don't know. 3100 02:04:46,080 --> 02:04:48,320 Speaker 1: I thought that was cool, but that's not really necessarily 3101 02:04:48,320 --> 02:04:48,720 Speaker 1: a question. 3102 02:04:49,080 --> 02:04:49,440 Speaker 3: You did it. 3103 02:04:49,520 --> 02:04:52,200 Speaker 1: You just did it, not finished a question mark at the. 3104 02:04:52,240 --> 02:04:52,440 Speaker 3: End of that. 3105 02:04:52,920 --> 02:04:57,160 Speaker 12: How monumental was that for not only your college career 3106 02:04:57,280 --> 02:04:59,960 Speaker 12: but confidence moving forward going into the NFL. 3107 02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:01,720 Speaker 3: Well, well that was a good weight to round that 3108 02:05:01,800 --> 02:05:03,640 Speaker 3: all one. That was good. It was nice. That's the 3109 02:05:03,640 --> 02:05:07,280 Speaker 3: best question today, snaps Jack. Yeah, no, it was live. 3110 02:05:08,720 --> 02:05:12,040 Speaker 5: So like so I grew up in Alfred of Georgia, 3111 02:05:12,400 --> 02:05:14,839 Speaker 5: so just sou south of Atlanta. I wasn't really recruited 3112 02:05:14,880 --> 02:05:16,839 Speaker 5: by Georgia, but I never went to go to Georgia. 3113 02:05:17,000 --> 02:05:19,160 Speaker 5: But I just had beef because I never really liked Georgia. 3114 02:05:19,840 --> 02:05:23,160 Speaker 5: So like senior year on the road at Georgia, we're 3115 02:05:23,200 --> 02:05:24,840 Speaker 5: like going back and forth the whole game. But then 3116 02:05:24,880 --> 02:05:27,160 Speaker 5: they you're like, oh, I don't want to lose to Georgia. 3117 02:05:27,240 --> 02:05:28,640 Speaker 5: Like a beat them last year. We got to beat 3118 02:05:28,680 --> 02:05:32,720 Speaker 5: them again, and they threw like a hell mary ish 3119 02:05:32,760 --> 02:05:35,000 Speaker 5: play like right before it. So there was like fifteen 3120 02:05:35,080 --> 02:05:37,560 Speaker 5: seconds left, they just bring their last time out. I 3121 02:05:37,640 --> 02:05:39,720 Speaker 5: was really standing next to Malone. They're on like the 3122 02:05:40,040 --> 02:05:42,280 Speaker 5: forty seven yard line, but they have to score a touchdown. 3123 02:05:42,520 --> 02:05:44,480 Speaker 5: Me and Malone are like, oh, yeah, we won. Like 3124 02:05:44,560 --> 02:05:46,640 Speaker 5: we're like we're about to get on the about to 3125 02:05:46,640 --> 02:05:49,040 Speaker 5: get on the plane, get back to Knoxville. It's live. 3126 02:05:49,160 --> 02:05:51,800 Speaker 5: We just won at Georgia. And then the next play 3127 02:05:51,800 --> 02:05:54,600 Speaker 5: they throw a whole shot down down the sideline. Dude 3128 02:05:54,640 --> 02:05:56,360 Speaker 5: catches it in a straight and we really look at 3129 02:05:56,400 --> 02:05:59,400 Speaker 5: each other like no way. So they score. 3130 02:06:00,040 --> 02:06:00,800 Speaker 4: How much time left? 3131 02:06:00,880 --> 02:06:03,480 Speaker 3: There's eleven seconds left on the clock. 3132 02:06:03,680 --> 02:06:07,600 Speaker 5: Oh shit, but listen to the dude, from their sideline, 3133 02:06:07,680 --> 02:06:10,800 Speaker 5: runs on the field, no helmet, fifteen yard penalty. And 3134 02:06:10,840 --> 02:06:12,600 Speaker 5: he's actually he's from Nashville. That's what it was funny. 3135 02:06:12,600 --> 02:06:15,760 Speaker 5: He wanted to go to Tennessee. Think come uh. He 3136 02:06:15,880 --> 02:06:18,360 Speaker 5: ran on the field, fifteen yard penalty. So backed him up. 3137 02:06:18,600 --> 02:06:20,480 Speaker 5: And so we had the best returner in the nation 3138 02:06:20,640 --> 02:06:23,120 Speaker 5: that year, Evan Barry. So they had to kick it. 3139 02:06:23,280 --> 02:06:24,520 Speaker 5: They had to kick on the ball. They would just 3140 02:06:24,560 --> 02:06:26,400 Speaker 5: kicked out the back the end zone. We'd be running 3141 02:06:26,400 --> 02:06:28,560 Speaker 5: hooking ladder and just praying. They had to kick it 3142 02:06:28,640 --> 02:06:28,880 Speaker 5: to him. 3143 02:06:28,920 --> 02:06:30,640 Speaker 3: He catches it. They try to like pooch kick it. 3144 02:06:30,840 --> 02:06:31,360 Speaker 3: He catches it. 3145 02:06:31,440 --> 02:06:34,480 Speaker 1: On the thirty he runs right, We're like, all right, 3146 02:06:34,600 --> 02:06:35,400 Speaker 1: keep going, keep going. 3147 02:06:35,520 --> 02:06:37,600 Speaker 5: He runs, he runs, He looks at the clock, runs 3148 02:06:37,640 --> 02:06:39,840 Speaker 5: out of bounds at their forty six yard line with 3149 02:06:39,880 --> 02:06:42,400 Speaker 5: four seconds stuft on the clock. And so before that 3150 02:06:42,760 --> 02:06:44,520 Speaker 5: we're like, are we gonna do hooking ladder or we're 3151 02:06:44,520 --> 02:06:46,960 Speaker 5: gonna throw hell Mary. So we get to that yard line, 3152 02:06:47,000 --> 02:06:48,520 Speaker 5: We're like, all right, we can throw hell Mary. 3153 02:06:49,080 --> 02:06:49,680 Speaker 3: So we get on the. 3154 02:06:49,720 --> 02:06:53,280 Speaker 5: Field, line up, call time out, come to the sideline, 3155 02:06:53,360 --> 02:06:56,280 Speaker 5: get back on the field, and then they rushed three 3156 02:06:56,640 --> 02:06:59,000 Speaker 5: and I was like, make sure you don't take a sack, 3157 02:06:59,160 --> 02:07:00,240 Speaker 5: make sure you don't roll. 3158 02:07:00,200 --> 02:07:07,240 Speaker 3: It out of the back of the end zone. Yeah, yeah, Pepper, 3159 02:07:07,320 --> 02:07:11,800 Speaker 3: this checkdown four seconds. He was waiting for that. 3160 02:07:11,920 --> 02:07:12,640 Speaker 9: The whole story. 3161 02:07:13,840 --> 02:07:14,800 Speaker 3: The whole story. 3162 02:07:15,240 --> 02:07:15,760 Speaker 4: I thought of it. 3163 02:07:15,800 --> 02:07:17,400 Speaker 2: Once you said don't take a sack. I'm like, oh, 3164 02:07:17,480 --> 02:07:19,240 Speaker 2: he's going and then you can smile. I'm thinking like, 3165 02:07:19,280 --> 02:07:20,400 Speaker 2: oh ship, yeah, we'll get him. 3166 02:07:20,440 --> 02:07:21,920 Speaker 3: I'm get him. Yeah, that was a good one. 3167 02:07:22,600 --> 02:07:26,480 Speaker 5: Rub it in my face, kicking, walk down, check down, no, 3168 02:07:26,800 --> 02:07:28,080 Speaker 5: through it, through it to Juwana. 3169 02:07:28,120 --> 02:07:32,400 Speaker 7: He he did the harp to a bomb and when 3170 02:07:32,440 --> 02:07:35,720 Speaker 7: he caught it, so you're like, it's fucking up. You're 3171 02:07:35,720 --> 02:07:39,360 Speaker 7: probably when he caught it, just the plays the play. 3172 02:07:39,880 --> 02:07:42,920 Speaker 5: So when he caught it, I remember seeing him like 3173 02:07:43,080 --> 02:07:47,400 Speaker 5: catch it right here, and then it was like all 3174 02:07:47,480 --> 02:07:48,200 Speaker 5: hell brokeless. 3175 02:07:49,440 --> 02:07:50,680 Speaker 3: God so cool. 3176 02:07:50,720 --> 02:07:53,520 Speaker 5: I was at Georgia, so that was what was so 3177 02:07:53,600 --> 02:07:55,560 Speaker 5: cool about it because you could literally hear a pin 3178 02:07:55,680 --> 02:07:57,800 Speaker 5: drop and then they pull all the Tennessee fans like 3179 02:07:57,960 --> 02:07:59,880 Speaker 5: up in the rafters at the top of the stadium. 3180 02:07:59,920 --> 02:08:01,520 Speaker 3: It's just like they're just going crazy. 3181 02:08:01,880 --> 02:08:03,800 Speaker 5: The band is like at the top of the stadium 3182 02:08:03,880 --> 02:08:07,360 Speaker 5: to playing Rocky Top and then like sea of red silence. 3183 02:08:09,440 --> 02:08:10,240 Speaker 3: That's fucking cool. 3184 02:08:10,360 --> 02:08:12,080 Speaker 4: Tennessee does have one of the best fan bases. 3185 02:08:12,200 --> 02:08:12,720 Speaker 1: They really do. 3186 02:08:12,960 --> 02:08:15,920 Speaker 3: They roll so deep they do. What a bomb too? 3187 02:08:16,120 --> 02:08:19,280 Speaker 2: No, you know everybody in the defense, everybody fucking jumping 3188 02:08:19,320 --> 02:08:22,680 Speaker 2: for the ball and ship they know that defensive coaches. 3189 02:08:22,920 --> 02:08:24,440 Speaker 12: I was trying to find the play that set it up, 3190 02:08:24,440 --> 02:08:27,680 Speaker 12: because literally Georgia threw like a forty yard bomb with 3191 02:08:27,880 --> 02:08:30,200 Speaker 12: twelve seconds prior to this play too. 3192 02:08:30,280 --> 02:08:32,520 Speaker 3: We were up four points for them and they were 3193 02:08:32,560 --> 02:08:33,080 Speaker 3: gonna win, and. 3194 02:08:33,080 --> 02:08:35,920 Speaker 12: They were they basically just beat us, and everyone's. 3195 02:08:35,520 --> 02:08:39,560 Speaker 5: Like, no fucking we're four and zero undefeated, and they 3196 02:08:39,640 --> 02:08:42,600 Speaker 5: threw it, and uh, I forget who said it. Some 3197 02:08:42,680 --> 02:08:45,760 Speaker 5: one goes and they about to party their butts off tonight. 3198 02:08:46,560 --> 02:08:50,240 Speaker 5: It was like electric in the stadium. It got rowdy, 3199 02:08:50,360 --> 02:08:53,360 Speaker 5: but then we were able to come back. And that coach, coach. 3200 02:08:54,760 --> 02:08:56,440 Speaker 3: Shones, where's he at now? 3201 02:08:56,680 --> 02:09:01,840 Speaker 5: He's at Arkansas State. M Oh damn, that's tough. Yeah, 3202 02:09:01,880 --> 02:09:04,160 Speaker 5: good dude, good dude, Yeah, really, good dude. 3203 02:09:04,280 --> 02:09:08,520 Speaker 3: You played with some good players there. Yeah. I feel 3204 02:09:08,520 --> 02:09:12,280 Speaker 3: like Tomor is most underutilized college football player of all time. Yeah, 3205 02:09:13,360 --> 02:09:15,240 Speaker 3: but like we had Jalen Heard too. 3206 02:09:15,320 --> 02:09:17,760 Speaker 1: Most underutilized college football player of all time. You see 3207 02:09:17,800 --> 02:09:18,560 Speaker 1: what he's doing in the league. 3208 02:09:18,600 --> 02:09:20,440 Speaker 3: He's going crazy. Well you got that, we got Jalen 3209 02:09:20,520 --> 02:09:20,840 Speaker 3: heard too. 3210 02:09:20,960 --> 02:09:22,920 Speaker 5: Jalen heard it was a thousand yard rusher as a 3211 02:09:22,960 --> 02:09:24,200 Speaker 5: freshman and sophomore. 3212 02:09:24,760 --> 02:09:26,080 Speaker 3: And then Alvin got there too. 3213 02:09:26,280 --> 02:09:31,760 Speaker 5: So and then once Jalen got hurt, Alvin obviously started 3214 02:09:31,800 --> 02:09:34,160 Speaker 5: going off. But like he was already going off. He 3215 02:09:34,360 --> 02:09:37,240 Speaker 5: just like we would get the ball the Jalen a 3216 02:09:37,280 --> 02:09:39,040 Speaker 5: little bit more than we gave it to Alvin. So, 3217 02:09:39,560 --> 02:09:42,640 Speaker 5: I mean, obviously, at hindsight, like, man, this dude's amazing. 3218 02:09:42,800 --> 02:09:44,720 Speaker 5: He's like one of the best running backs in the league. 3219 02:09:46,920 --> 02:09:48,560 Speaker 5: I wish we could have used them more in college. 3220 02:09:48,640 --> 02:09:51,960 Speaker 5: But like at the time, he thought we were utilizing 3221 02:09:52,040 --> 02:09:52,840 Speaker 5: people the best we could. 3222 02:09:52,880 --> 02:09:53,000 Speaker 2: You know. 3223 02:09:53,400 --> 02:09:53,640 Speaker 3: Damn. 3224 02:09:53,800 --> 02:09:55,480 Speaker 4: Now I'm thinking, I'm like, I don't want to keep 3225 02:09:55,520 --> 02:09:58,040 Speaker 4: on here that much longer. But I am curious. 3226 02:09:58,880 --> 02:10:00,920 Speaker 2: There's a few there's a couple of players I'm thinking 3227 02:10:00,920 --> 02:10:03,640 Speaker 2: of that you play with on the Steelers, the Pouncy 3228 02:10:05,840 --> 02:10:09,120 Speaker 2: So I've heard nothing but like insane things about the 3229 02:10:09,200 --> 02:10:11,440 Speaker 2: way he is as a leader. And also it seems 3230 02:10:11,480 --> 02:10:13,080 Speaker 2: like you got to play with Antonio Brown. I would 3231 02:10:13,080 --> 02:10:15,280 Speaker 2: love the Yeah, what'd you think of a b like 3232 02:10:15,360 --> 02:10:17,520 Speaker 2: playing with them on the on the the black and 3233 02:10:17,640 --> 02:10:22,560 Speaker 2: yellow sucking goal. I don't want to butcher Pittsburgh Nation, Yeah, 3234 02:10:22,600 --> 02:10:23,720 Speaker 2: black and yellow like yellow. 3235 02:10:24,440 --> 02:10:24,600 Speaker 7: Oh. 3236 02:10:24,840 --> 02:10:29,680 Speaker 1: I just got a text from Dennis Kelly. Todd Downing 3237 02:10:29,840 --> 02:10:31,160 Speaker 1: and Keith Carter were fired. 3238 02:10:32,400 --> 02:10:35,000 Speaker 3: I even't seen anything, so that might be that. 3239 02:10:35,080 --> 02:10:35,360 Speaker 2: Might be. 3240 02:10:37,000 --> 02:10:39,640 Speaker 1: Breaking information, but that was from That was from Dennis Kelly. 3241 02:10:40,160 --> 02:10:43,120 Speaker 2: Oh really Yeah, it feels from Dennis, and that means 3242 02:10:43,400 --> 02:10:46,240 Speaker 2: it's probably out Carter, the old line coach. 3243 02:10:49,200 --> 02:10:54,080 Speaker 3: That's crazy. Wow, the reaction, uh, my reaction. 3244 02:10:55,560 --> 02:10:58,320 Speaker 2: Keith Carter and Todd Downing just got fired real time. 3245 02:10:58,520 --> 02:11:01,920 Speaker 2: We just saw right now. What's your reaction to that. 3246 02:11:06,880 --> 02:11:15,480 Speaker 3: I don't think you can say that we got a video? 3247 02:11:15,640 --> 02:11:17,200 Speaker 3: Oh my phone, my phone's out there. 3248 02:11:19,480 --> 02:11:22,760 Speaker 1: That's his name not and then Keith Carter and Todd Downing. 3249 02:11:28,000 --> 02:11:31,080 Speaker 1: Oh I re Fraser did? Rob Moore is still there. 3250 02:11:32,960 --> 02:11:35,320 Speaker 1: I don't think Rob is going anywhere either. What an 3251 02:11:35,400 --> 02:11:39,440 Speaker 1: interesting I mean, first initial thought, I know you're literally 3252 02:11:39,560 --> 02:11:42,040 Speaker 1: on the spot. I know I'm without any time to 3253 02:11:42,120 --> 02:11:45,160 Speaker 1: register any of that information. I think Todd is an 3254 02:11:45,200 --> 02:11:47,360 Speaker 1: incredibly good person. He's like awesome to be around, and 3255 02:11:47,360 --> 02:11:49,480 Speaker 1: he's a great guy. You kind of could tell, Like 3256 02:11:49,560 --> 02:11:51,600 Speaker 1: obviously the whole season everyone's calling for his head, like 3257 02:11:51,720 --> 02:11:54,040 Speaker 1: that riding was on the wall. There was a moment 3258 02:11:54,240 --> 02:11:56,440 Speaker 1: when I went out to a walk and I think 3259 02:11:56,440 --> 02:11:58,440 Speaker 1: it was right before you got there. I was literally 3260 02:11:58,480 --> 02:12:02,160 Speaker 1: in a poncho and Todd. Todd was like, oh, you 3261 02:12:02,240 --> 02:12:03,720 Speaker 1: playing tight end. I was like, I'm gonna play tight 3262 02:12:03,800 --> 02:12:05,720 Speaker 1: end next next year for you, and he goes, oh, 3263 02:12:05,760 --> 02:12:08,000 Speaker 1: you go into and he recited some random high school 3264 02:12:08,000 --> 02:12:11,040 Speaker 1: football team, like he I think Todd knew he was 3265 02:12:11,120 --> 02:12:13,920 Speaker 1: going to be fired. I think so, I'm really I 3266 02:12:14,160 --> 02:12:16,480 Speaker 1: don't know. Hart goes out to him, good family man, 3267 02:12:16,560 --> 02:12:21,080 Speaker 1: good dude. Obviously a bad situation. After the Packers game, Uh, Keith, 3268 02:12:22,560 --> 02:12:24,200 Speaker 1: he's been there. Keith's been there, Yeah for. 3269 02:12:24,240 --> 02:12:25,400 Speaker 3: Like five years. 3270 02:12:25,760 --> 02:12:26,200 Speaker 4: Five years. 3271 02:12:27,480 --> 02:12:27,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, man. 3272 02:12:27,920 --> 02:12:30,240 Speaker 1: Keith and I have had a very up and down relationship, 3273 02:12:30,280 --> 02:12:32,280 Speaker 1: and I think it's ended at a much higher point. 3274 02:12:33,880 --> 02:12:37,200 Speaker 1: But damn, I think like when Keith first got there, 3275 02:12:37,240 --> 02:12:38,480 Speaker 1: he the way he came in and the way he 3276 02:12:38,560 --> 02:12:42,840 Speaker 1: was trying to act towards everybody, like very disrespectful, very 3277 02:12:44,360 --> 02:12:47,400 Speaker 1: very authoritative, but like in a very like dictatorship type 3278 02:12:47,440 --> 02:12:52,120 Speaker 1: of way Keith grew every single year, and he he 3279 02:12:52,280 --> 02:12:55,240 Speaker 1: did live on the old line with impossible standards. That 3280 02:12:55,400 --> 02:12:56,480 Speaker 1: was kind of like one of those things you know, 3281 02:12:56,560 --> 02:12:58,600 Speaker 1: football is how it gets kind of toxic sometimes, like 3282 02:12:58,680 --> 02:13:00,160 Speaker 1: it's never good enough. You think you do well, and 3283 02:13:00,160 --> 02:13:01,480 Speaker 1: all of asen there's one or two plays you want 3284 02:13:01,520 --> 02:13:03,760 Speaker 1: back and sometimes you just want to pat on the 3285 02:13:03,800 --> 02:13:06,360 Speaker 1: back and you never truly get that. I think Keith's 3286 02:13:06,400 --> 02:13:08,480 Speaker 1: a good I think Keith is a good offensive line 3287 02:13:08,520 --> 02:13:14,600 Speaker 1: coach that was stricken by injuries. Me Ben Nate Brewer 3288 02:13:14,720 --> 02:13:16,400 Speaker 1: was hurt this year, and Nick missed a couple of games. 3289 02:13:16,440 --> 02:13:19,120 Speaker 1: That's all five starting guys were hurt, So that's not 3290 02:13:19,200 --> 02:13:21,920 Speaker 1: necessarily Keith Carter's fault. I think he'll be able to 3291 02:13:21,960 --> 02:13:29,360 Speaker 1: get a job in the NFL again, But yeah, I 3292 02:13:29,440 --> 02:13:32,720 Speaker 1: think yeah. I mean, I don't want to say like 3293 02:13:32,760 --> 02:13:36,040 Speaker 1: anything disrespectful, right because I think he's a good dude 3294 02:13:36,480 --> 02:13:39,160 Speaker 1: and I think like he his his nice friendship. Friendship 3295 02:13:39,200 --> 02:13:41,280 Speaker 1: is a very loose term, but our business relationship got 3296 02:13:41,280 --> 02:13:43,200 Speaker 1: a whole lot better from the first time he was 3297 02:13:43,240 --> 02:13:49,040 Speaker 1: in to now. I just wish he he focused a 3298 02:13:49,080 --> 02:13:51,800 Speaker 1: little bit more on taking care of the older players. 3299 02:13:52,240 --> 02:13:53,880 Speaker 1: I think Ben got a little more of that towards 3300 02:13:53,920 --> 02:13:56,960 Speaker 1: the end, and then I kind of did this year. 3301 02:13:57,440 --> 02:14:00,360 Speaker 1: But this is those practices are hard. We're on your 3302 02:14:00,400 --> 02:14:02,160 Speaker 1: body and there where your tires are really fast, and 3303 02:14:02,240 --> 02:14:04,160 Speaker 1: you could see it towards the end of the season sometimes. 3304 02:14:04,880 --> 02:14:06,880 Speaker 3: But I think I think Keith's gonna get another job. 3305 02:14:06,960 --> 02:14:07,480 Speaker 3: I think he did. 3306 02:14:07,640 --> 02:14:09,720 Speaker 1: He does a great job. I don't know coach Midgett 3307 02:14:10,280 --> 02:14:12,840 Speaker 1: at all. I passed him. The hallway knocks every once 3308 02:14:12,840 --> 02:14:13,920 Speaker 1: in a while, and that's kind of what it is. 3309 02:14:14,120 --> 02:14:17,240 Speaker 1: I hope it works out for him. But damn, that's crazy. 3310 02:14:18,800 --> 02:14:19,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's happening. 3311 02:14:19,640 --> 02:14:21,720 Speaker 3: Black Monday, Black Monday. Yeah, I didn't think. 3312 02:14:21,800 --> 02:14:23,840 Speaker 1: I didn't think they'd be fired till later. I didn't 3313 02:14:23,840 --> 02:14:25,640 Speaker 1: think he. I didn't not think Keith was gonna get fired. 3314 02:14:28,840 --> 02:14:31,400 Speaker 3: Damn it. We sure it's Keith Carter. You see that 3315 02:14:31,880 --> 02:14:33,880 Speaker 3: Blake Korn's coming back. Yeah, I did. 3316 02:14:34,120 --> 02:14:35,840 Speaker 2: Oh, I meant to put a tweet out there, like, Bro, 3317 02:14:36,000 --> 02:14:37,840 Speaker 2: you've there's only so much shut on the tire in 3318 02:14:37,840 --> 02:14:42,360 Speaker 2: the NFL. You gotta go leave this conference. Bigger things ahead, brother, 3319 02:14:42,800 --> 02:14:45,640 Speaker 2: No need to come back to Michigan. Yes, Nebraska will 3320 02:14:45,640 --> 02:14:46,040 Speaker 2: take care of. 3321 02:14:46,120 --> 02:14:46,440 Speaker 8: It for you. 3322 02:14:47,040 --> 02:14:50,480 Speaker 1: Three time Big Ten champions coming up Josh's final, Hang on. 3323 02:14:50,600 --> 02:14:53,800 Speaker 2: Don't don't even bring that out. He was talking about it. 3324 02:14:53,800 --> 02:14:55,680 Speaker 2: He was talking about it before. He was talking about 3325 02:14:55,680 --> 02:14:58,560 Speaker 2: it before that news came out. He's talked about a 3326 02:14:58,600 --> 02:15:00,400 Speaker 2: couple of his teammates from the Steelers talk. 3327 02:15:01,040 --> 02:15:04,400 Speaker 12: Yeah, no, no, no, I just want to know about 3328 02:15:04,520 --> 02:15:05,600 Speaker 12: Josh's last game. 3329 02:15:05,720 --> 02:15:11,480 Speaker 3: Is of all the Nebraska game. Yeah, well, twenty eight, 3330 02:15:11,520 --> 02:15:16,200 Speaker 3: I believe, just thirty. It wasn't that close. Close game wasn't. 3331 02:15:16,440 --> 02:15:20,000 Speaker 4: Score you said ten points and we were talking about 3332 02:15:20,000 --> 02:15:21,000 Speaker 4: two possessions. 3333 02:15:20,600 --> 02:15:22,600 Speaker 5: And they scored like with like two minutes left in 3334 02:15:22,680 --> 02:15:27,880 Speaker 5: the game. And then we took a knee move him 3335 02:15:27,880 --> 02:15:31,280 Speaker 5: a lower doing handshakes in the locker room. What year 3336 02:15:31,400 --> 02:15:33,400 Speaker 5: was that, twenty twenty sixteen? 3337 02:15:33,480 --> 02:15:34,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, sixteen. 3338 02:15:34,720 --> 02:15:37,440 Speaker 4: Mike Riley is the head coach, right, it was Riley. 3339 02:15:37,600 --> 02:15:37,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 3340 02:15:37,840 --> 02:15:39,480 Speaker 4: I think that's part of the Mike Riley or like 3341 02:15:39,640 --> 02:15:43,880 Speaker 4: that's it for the Hey, sick jack, you beat Mike Riley. 3342 02:15:45,560 --> 02:15:50,880 Speaker 3: I didn't beat anyone. We always have just the of 3343 02:15:51,000 --> 02:15:54,000 Speaker 3: a clearly healthy rivalries in college football. 3344 02:15:54,280 --> 02:15:56,760 Speaker 1: We have the most historic ripa leay in college football? 3345 02:15:57,240 --> 02:15:59,040 Speaker 1: Have you read the Busting Trophy? The bust and Bowl. 3346 02:15:59,320 --> 02:15:59,840 Speaker 4: Did you see that? 3347 02:16:00,840 --> 02:16:01,280 Speaker 3: No? What's that? 3348 02:16:01,400 --> 02:16:02,040 Speaker 4: So you didn't see it? 3349 02:16:02,120 --> 02:16:05,560 Speaker 3: Oh? Wow, I thought you watched, so you don't follow 3350 02:16:06,120 --> 02:16:06,480 Speaker 3: at all? 3351 02:16:06,720 --> 02:16:10,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's an honorable mention washer dude. 3352 02:16:10,960 --> 02:16:11,400 Speaker 3: Uh yeah. 3353 02:16:11,800 --> 02:16:14,920 Speaker 1: Every year Michigan Nebraska they play for the bust and Bowl. 3354 02:16:15,520 --> 02:16:18,040 Speaker 4: There's a trophy made. 3355 02:16:18,200 --> 02:16:21,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, sitting in Michigan's trophy room right now along with 3356 02:16:21,080 --> 02:16:22,560 Speaker 1: Paul Bunny and along with the Brown. 3357 02:16:22,440 --> 02:16:23,880 Speaker 5: Jug For those of you want to when do you'all 3358 02:16:23,880 --> 02:16:25,520 Speaker 5: start doing beating trophy championship year? 3359 02:16:25,720 --> 02:16:26,640 Speaker 3: This was the first year. 3360 02:16:26,720 --> 02:16:27,120 Speaker 4: First year. 3361 02:16:27,680 --> 02:16:30,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, we kind of just brushed over those guys 3362 02:16:30,120 --> 02:16:34,400 Speaker 1: getting fired. Well, like what you know, we ya, what 3363 02:16:34,480 --> 02:16:35,160 Speaker 1: do you really say? 3364 02:16:35,240 --> 02:16:38,560 Speaker 3: I don't know. I just feel bad. I feel like 3365 02:16:38,560 --> 02:16:43,959 Speaker 3: everyone was just waiting for that one. Yeah. I think 3366 02:16:43,959 --> 02:16:44,560 Speaker 3: it was coming to day. 3367 02:16:44,720 --> 02:16:46,120 Speaker 2: What kind of what kind of what kind of like 3368 02:16:46,160 --> 02:16:48,520 Speaker 2: what kind of homage are we wanting to? We want 3369 02:16:48,600 --> 02:16:50,560 Speaker 2: to spend time on it? Like are you know somebody 3370 02:16:50,720 --> 02:16:51,680 Speaker 2: question after you? No? 3371 02:16:51,760 --> 02:16:52,080 Speaker 3: No, no no. 3372 02:16:52,200 --> 02:16:54,120 Speaker 1: I just kind of spoke and I didn't want to 3373 02:16:54,160 --> 02:16:56,000 Speaker 1: be like disrespectful. And now I'm I kind of re 3374 02:16:56,640 --> 02:16:59,520 Speaker 1: thinking about what I said. I'm like, yeah, it was 3375 02:16:59,640 --> 02:17:00,800 Speaker 1: it was disrespectful. 3376 02:17:00,840 --> 02:17:02,600 Speaker 3: But I was also like, you also got to cover 3377 02:17:02,640 --> 02:17:02,960 Speaker 3: all basis. 3378 02:17:02,959 --> 02:17:04,440 Speaker 1: Those are human beings of families, and I want to 3379 02:17:04,480 --> 02:17:07,520 Speaker 1: make sure that I'm not like being rude, right, But yeah, okay, 3380 02:17:07,560 --> 02:17:08,160 Speaker 1: so we can move on. 3381 02:17:08,320 --> 02:17:11,840 Speaker 3: We can absolutely move on from that. And you're go ahead. 3382 02:17:12,080 --> 02:17:13,560 Speaker 4: This is just such a good pop And I'm thinking 3383 02:17:13,600 --> 02:17:14,920 Speaker 4: of the two hour mark right now. I don't know 3384 02:17:14,959 --> 02:17:15,840 Speaker 4: how you're feeling about it. 3385 02:17:15,959 --> 02:17:17,040 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm good, I'm straight. 3386 02:17:17,320 --> 02:17:19,240 Speaker 4: Because now there's a few questions I want to ask. 3387 02:17:19,560 --> 02:17:21,080 Speaker 2: I still want to talk to you about the teammates, 3388 02:17:21,080 --> 02:17:24,400 Speaker 2: getting to play with Pounty and Antonio Brown, and I 3389 02:17:24,480 --> 02:17:28,680 Speaker 2: also want to ask about your situation, like being in 3390 02:17:28,720 --> 02:17:31,040 Speaker 2: the headspace where you're at being somebody that's been on 3391 02:17:31,120 --> 02:17:35,520 Speaker 2: IR all year and you've talked openly about anticipating being 3392 02:17:35,600 --> 02:17:38,200 Speaker 2: cut and everything else. Whether or not that happens, time 3393 02:17:38,240 --> 02:17:41,680 Speaker 2: will tell, But like, where has your headspace ends since? 3394 02:17:42,400 --> 02:17:44,440 Speaker 2: Because it's one thing knowing that, like, yo, this could 3395 02:17:44,440 --> 02:17:47,080 Speaker 2: be my last year in Tennessee. I could probably get cut. 3396 02:17:47,160 --> 02:17:49,520 Speaker 2: Like we're in the season the minute the game ends 3397 02:17:49,760 --> 02:17:53,000 Speaker 2: on Saturday. It's a different vibe because even I even 3398 02:17:53,120 --> 02:17:54,879 Speaker 2: I don't even play, and I thought, I'm like Damn, 3399 02:17:55,040 --> 02:17:56,120 Speaker 2: it's just over for the boys. 3400 02:17:56,200 --> 02:17:57,920 Speaker 4: Now it's off season mode. 3401 02:18:00,320 --> 02:18:00,640 Speaker 12: More real. 3402 02:18:00,840 --> 02:18:02,640 Speaker 4: I feel like it's it's yeah, I had to have 3403 02:18:02,680 --> 02:18:03,160 Speaker 4: gotten more real. 3404 02:18:03,360 --> 02:18:05,280 Speaker 1: It's gotten way more real for me because it's like 3405 02:18:05,680 --> 02:18:07,840 Speaker 1: we talk about all the time, like me saying I'm 3406 02:18:07,879 --> 02:18:11,840 Speaker 1: gonna get cut is like my weird like a subconscious 3407 02:18:11,920 --> 02:18:14,039 Speaker 1: like egotistical way of being, like I know I'm gonna 3408 02:18:14,040 --> 02:18:15,920 Speaker 1: get got, and so I don't want people to think 3409 02:18:15,959 --> 02:18:17,640 Speaker 1: like I'm just getting blindsided here, like I know, like 3410 02:18:17,680 --> 02:18:19,640 Speaker 1: the writing's on the wall for me, So I keep 3411 02:18:19,760 --> 02:18:22,800 Speaker 1: vocalizing it one because it's that's kind of how I 3412 02:18:22,879 --> 02:18:24,840 Speaker 1: process things, but also like in a weird way, it's 3413 02:18:24,879 --> 02:18:27,680 Speaker 1: like me getting ahead of it, you know. And once 3414 02:18:27,720 --> 02:18:33,360 Speaker 1: that game ended, on that checkdown, I literally thought to myself, like, damn, 3415 02:18:33,400 --> 02:18:35,800 Speaker 1: it really is over, Like this is probably the last 3416 02:18:35,840 --> 02:18:38,240 Speaker 1: time I will ever be on you'll see the name 3417 02:18:38,280 --> 02:18:41,560 Speaker 1: Taro Lawan on a Tendency Titan roster even even though 3418 02:18:41,600 --> 02:18:44,080 Speaker 1: it was on IR this year. And so that like definitely, 3419 02:18:44,760 --> 02:18:47,240 Speaker 1: like Saturday, I told you, I like I saw a tailing, 3420 02:18:47,640 --> 02:18:48,960 Speaker 1: Like after the game, I was like, hey, we don't 3421 02:18:48,959 --> 02:18:52,080 Speaker 1: talk about this now, but like I feel weird right now, 3422 02:18:52,560 --> 02:18:55,640 Speaker 1: I do feel I feel like, uh not like I 3423 02:18:55,680 --> 02:18:57,640 Speaker 1: would say emotion. I think emotion is going to come 3424 02:18:57,760 --> 02:18:59,880 Speaker 1: when that time happens. And I had a conversation with 3425 02:19:00,040 --> 02:19:03,560 Speaker 1: Ryan Cowden today and I walked in his office. 3426 02:19:03,640 --> 02:19:05,880 Speaker 3: I love Ryan. I think Ryan's a great dude. I 3427 02:19:06,000 --> 02:19:07,880 Speaker 3: have no idea how good of a GM he would be. 3428 02:19:08,400 --> 02:19:09,240 Speaker 3: John want him there. 3429 02:19:09,800 --> 02:19:12,480 Speaker 1: I think there's nothing he could have shown in these 3430 02:19:12,560 --> 02:19:14,400 Speaker 1: last seven weeks being the gym. It's kind of like 3431 02:19:14,440 --> 02:19:16,680 Speaker 1: you bring he brought you in, did a great job, 3432 02:19:17,000 --> 02:19:19,480 Speaker 1: you know, like that's that's huge, But like, where are 3433 02:19:19,520 --> 02:19:21,160 Speaker 1: they going? What's their process? I hope he does get 3434 02:19:21,200 --> 02:19:23,840 Speaker 1: the job because the person he is and I know 3435 02:19:23,920 --> 02:19:25,800 Speaker 1: he does things a little bit differently. But I walked 3436 02:19:25,800 --> 02:19:27,959 Speaker 1: into his office and I was like, I know because 3437 02:19:27,959 --> 02:19:29,480 Speaker 1: I've gained a relationship with him. I was like, I 3438 02:19:29,560 --> 02:19:31,520 Speaker 1: know you're gonna cut me, And I know you're that's 3439 02:19:31,560 --> 02:19:34,000 Speaker 1: going to happen. And just know when you make that 3440 02:19:34,120 --> 02:19:35,680 Speaker 1: phone call and it's going to be difficult for you 3441 02:19:35,720 --> 02:19:37,480 Speaker 1: to pick up that phone because of our relationship. 3442 02:19:37,840 --> 02:19:39,199 Speaker 3: No, I'm not going to take this personally. 3443 02:19:39,640 --> 02:19:41,320 Speaker 1: I understand the business and I'm not going to think 3444 02:19:41,320 --> 02:19:42,480 Speaker 1: this is you cutting me I think this is the 3445 02:19:42,480 --> 02:19:45,080 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans cutting me, and we had we had a fantastic, 3446 02:19:45,160 --> 02:19:48,160 Speaker 1: like fifteen twenty minute long conversation about other things too, 3447 02:19:48,280 --> 02:19:52,119 Speaker 1: but it is just a it's just wild, Like I've 3448 02:19:52,200 --> 02:19:55,200 Speaker 1: never like I've never been cut before and I've never 3449 02:19:55,360 --> 02:19:55,800 Speaker 1: like had. 3450 02:19:56,040 --> 02:19:56,520 Speaker 3: To feel that. 3451 02:19:57,000 --> 02:20:01,200 Speaker 1: And I know, sitting in the team with Rabel, he 3452 02:20:01,320 --> 02:20:03,280 Speaker 1: always talks about guys like, oh, so and so, how 3453 02:20:03,320 --> 02:20:05,119 Speaker 1: many times have you been cutting? They're like, h seven, 3454 02:20:05,440 --> 02:20:07,600 Speaker 1: and other guys are like ten or whatever, and then 3455 02:20:07,600 --> 02:20:09,520 Speaker 1: they find they're home somewhere and then you're like, damn, 3456 02:20:09,560 --> 02:20:11,360 Speaker 1: this person's been cut that many times. They've traveled on 3457 02:20:11,480 --> 02:20:14,040 Speaker 1: a suitcase, like you're saying, like you're a nomad, and 3458 02:20:14,200 --> 02:20:17,720 Speaker 1: so now I'm thinking like damn, Like everyone gets got, 3459 02:20:17,879 --> 02:20:19,560 Speaker 1: and when you're in the position I am, you think 3460 02:20:19,640 --> 02:20:22,840 Speaker 1: I'm never gonna get got. But here I am in 3461 02:20:22,959 --> 02:20:25,960 Speaker 1: the in plain sight with the sights on me, knowing 3462 02:20:26,040 --> 02:20:29,760 Speaker 1: that like it's it's probably ninety five percent going to happen, 3463 02:20:30,400 --> 02:20:35,200 Speaker 1: and so it sucks, but it's also completely understandable and 3464 02:20:35,280 --> 02:20:36,240 Speaker 1: well we talked about before. 3465 02:20:36,280 --> 02:20:37,160 Speaker 3: There's there's arguments. 3466 02:20:37,200 --> 02:20:39,360 Speaker 1: I could sit here and be like, oh okay, I 3467 02:20:39,600 --> 02:20:42,120 Speaker 1: could be be back at the times because of these 3468 02:20:42,200 --> 02:20:45,000 Speaker 1: things like these are the pros and but like if 3469 02:20:45,040 --> 02:20:47,480 Speaker 1: I were to, like if I was a GM and 3470 02:20:47,560 --> 02:20:51,920 Speaker 1: I'm looking at taaror Lawan, i would think upside is solid. 3471 02:20:52,920 --> 02:20:55,400 Speaker 1: The downside is two acls and three years, Like how 3472 02:20:55,440 --> 02:20:58,840 Speaker 1: do you unless I were to come back and we 3473 02:20:58,879 --> 02:21:02,720 Speaker 1: would renegotiat where I'm playing for way less money, Like 3474 02:21:02,920 --> 02:21:04,640 Speaker 1: there's no way I'm on that roster again. 3475 02:21:05,600 --> 02:21:06,360 Speaker 3: So it's just different. 3476 02:21:06,879 --> 02:21:08,720 Speaker 1: It's a weird thing to think about being in that 3477 02:21:08,720 --> 02:21:10,880 Speaker 1: building today was really weird being that team meeting for 3478 02:21:10,920 --> 02:21:12,320 Speaker 1: the first time since week two? 3479 02:21:12,720 --> 02:21:14,959 Speaker 3: Right? Is it just a weird feeling interesting too, because 3480 02:21:15,120 --> 02:21:16,560 Speaker 3: you've been out of it since week two? 3481 02:21:16,680 --> 02:21:19,000 Speaker 2: Right, And you can even feel yourself you said it earlier, 3482 02:21:19,080 --> 02:21:21,720 Speaker 2: like I've been more you lean into like becoming more 3483 02:21:21,720 --> 02:21:23,080 Speaker 2: of a fan because you're just not in the daily 3484 02:21:23,160 --> 02:21:25,560 Speaker 2: routine with the boys, so you feel separated. But the 3485 02:21:25,640 --> 02:21:28,320 Speaker 2: minute that game ends, for whatever reason, it feels so 3486 02:21:28,440 --> 02:21:30,960 Speaker 2: much more finite. Like right now with just in real time, 3487 02:21:31,040 --> 02:21:34,560 Speaker 2: coaches are getting fired, Like it just sucks because you 3488 02:21:34,760 --> 02:21:38,680 Speaker 2: build such like a pack mentality all year long about 3489 02:21:38,720 --> 02:21:41,080 Speaker 2: the aspiracious the goals were going to achieve together, and 3490 02:21:41,160 --> 02:21:43,720 Speaker 2: then the minute it ends, whether anybody likes it or not, 3491 02:21:44,240 --> 02:21:46,080 Speaker 2: you have to come in the next morning with a 3492 02:21:46,240 --> 02:21:49,680 Speaker 2: business hat on and start acting people. 3493 02:21:49,840 --> 02:21:52,280 Speaker 3: That's just like the nature of the business, which sucks, 3494 02:21:52,720 --> 02:21:53,200 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. 3495 02:21:53,240 --> 02:21:55,920 Speaker 2: And you know, like all this transition happening that last 3496 02:21:56,000 --> 02:21:59,360 Speaker 2: year and the culture and the team and the core 3497 02:21:59,440 --> 02:22:01,240 Speaker 2: guys that they've had the last few years, whether or 3498 02:22:01,280 --> 02:22:03,360 Speaker 2: not that all states intact, but either way, it's like, damn, 3499 02:22:03,400 --> 02:22:06,240 Speaker 2: this is gonna be a way different looking team. Say, 3500 02:22:06,320 --> 02:22:08,200 Speaker 2: once you get removed from college for a few years 3501 02:22:08,200 --> 02:22:09,920 Speaker 2: and you don't even know anybody in the locker room anymore. 3502 02:22:10,040 --> 02:22:11,480 Speaker 3: That's fourth yearer in the league. You're like, damn, I 3503 02:22:11,520 --> 02:22:12,240 Speaker 3: don't know anybodymore. 3504 02:22:12,400 --> 02:22:14,000 Speaker 2: You're like, man, I don't even really have a pulse 3505 02:22:14,720 --> 02:22:17,080 Speaker 2: well on this team anymore. And so it's like it 3506 02:22:17,280 --> 02:22:20,120 Speaker 2: has to move on without you, which is like, yeah, 3507 02:22:20,160 --> 02:22:23,000 Speaker 2: that's the nature of the game. But it's like acknowledging that, 3508 02:22:23,160 --> 02:22:26,720 Speaker 2: like when that when that last play happened, It's like 3509 02:22:27,160 --> 02:22:28,840 Speaker 2: we were sitting there talking about it in real time. 3510 02:22:28,920 --> 02:22:30,840 Speaker 2: It's like, man, it just sucks that the boys, like 3511 02:22:30,920 --> 02:22:33,160 Speaker 2: tomorrow's gonna be that trash back day or by Scottish 3512 02:22:34,840 --> 02:22:36,240 Speaker 2: Taylor's face a little bit. I'm like, man, if I'm 3513 02:22:36,240 --> 02:22:38,000 Speaker 2: feeling stuff, I can only imagine, like I'm sure he's 3514 02:22:38,040 --> 02:22:40,040 Speaker 2: feeling I'm sure he's feeling that shit too, whether or not. 3515 02:22:40,120 --> 02:22:41,080 Speaker 4: You've been on IR all year. 3516 02:22:41,160 --> 02:22:43,960 Speaker 2: So like, damn, this year, this page is actually gonna 3517 02:22:43,959 --> 02:22:47,480 Speaker 2: have to actually turn now verst talking about it all 3518 02:22:47,520 --> 02:22:49,120 Speaker 2: year long and anticipating it. 3519 02:22:49,959 --> 02:22:54,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it sucks. It is fucking It's hard. 3520 02:22:55,200 --> 02:22:58,080 Speaker 1: It's a hard thing to think about because like, my 3521 02:22:58,200 --> 02:23:02,280 Speaker 1: whole life has been playing football and lucky enough being 3522 02:23:02,320 --> 02:23:04,720 Speaker 1: really good at playing football, and now I'm looking, I'm 3523 02:23:04,760 --> 02:23:05,160 Speaker 1: thirty one. 3524 02:23:06,400 --> 02:23:08,720 Speaker 2: Obviously high school you dipped on your bat. The shitty 3525 02:23:08,720 --> 02:23:10,480 Speaker 2: team went to the good team to get a championship 3526 02:23:10,560 --> 02:23:14,880 Speaker 2: or team I respect, but uh, university is like, yeah, 3527 02:23:14,879 --> 02:23:15,840 Speaker 2: you're a Michigan. 3528 02:23:15,560 --> 02:23:16,320 Speaker 4: For four years. 3529 02:23:16,400 --> 02:23:20,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, you've had, Yeah, you've had You've had the ability 3530 02:23:20,200 --> 02:23:22,280 Speaker 2: to stay on one team for not yeah nine year, 3531 02:23:22,360 --> 02:23:22,760 Speaker 2: nine years. 3532 02:23:22,840 --> 02:23:25,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's just crazy that it's like, oh, that's 3533 02:23:26,080 --> 02:23:28,960 Speaker 1: it's done. And I remember like being a rookie or 3534 02:23:29,080 --> 02:23:30,440 Speaker 1: like a second year or third year guy in the 3535 02:23:30,560 --> 02:23:33,680 Speaker 1: NFL and watching these old guys and then talking about 3536 02:23:33,680 --> 02:23:35,920 Speaker 1: how they like openly talking about how they're out of 3537 02:23:35,959 --> 02:23:38,960 Speaker 1: the prime, and I'm like, damn, fuck those guys, Like 3538 02:23:39,080 --> 02:23:41,320 Speaker 1: why are you talking like that? You don't even know, 3539 02:23:41,640 --> 02:23:43,440 Speaker 1: Like that's never gonna come for me. You never think 3540 02:23:43,520 --> 02:23:45,959 Speaker 1: like it's oh, now I'm thirty one, and it's like yeah, 3541 02:23:46,040 --> 02:23:47,560 Speaker 1: Like if you looked at me on paper, like my 3542 02:23:47,680 --> 02:23:50,200 Speaker 1: prime has passed me, I could sit here and pretend like, nah, 3543 02:23:50,240 --> 02:23:52,920 Speaker 1: I'm I'm still him. I could still do this, but 3544 02:23:53,040 --> 02:23:56,600 Speaker 1: like that part of it might be over and like 3545 02:23:56,640 --> 02:23:58,640 Speaker 1: who knows. Like let's say I did want to go 3546 02:23:58,680 --> 02:24:01,240 Speaker 1: play football again, I would have to sit there and 3547 02:24:01,280 --> 02:24:04,920 Speaker 1: be like, Okay, what are the logical expectations I need 3548 02:24:05,000 --> 02:24:07,000 Speaker 1: to have on myself for this season? Not only that, 3549 02:24:07,240 --> 02:24:09,440 Speaker 1: but what now I have to rego back into that 3550 02:24:09,560 --> 02:24:11,600 Speaker 1: headspace that you and I talk about all the time, 3551 02:24:11,879 --> 02:24:15,000 Speaker 1: where there is the I found so much success in 3552 02:24:15,040 --> 02:24:18,760 Speaker 1: football because I railroad to people. I had like low 3553 02:24:18,840 --> 02:24:21,080 Speaker 1: key and narcissistic mentality like I have to get to 3554 02:24:21,160 --> 02:24:22,720 Speaker 1: where I need to go, and if anybody's in the 3555 02:24:22,760 --> 02:24:25,240 Speaker 1: way of that, they're just getting pushed aside. Emotions, all 3556 02:24:25,240 --> 02:24:27,119 Speaker 1: of them are getting pushed to the side, and I'm 3557 02:24:27,200 --> 02:24:30,880 Speaker 1: going and now I get hurt. And the thing that 3558 02:24:31,080 --> 02:24:32,680 Speaker 1: when I got hurt this year, I didn't hurt is 3559 02:24:32,720 --> 02:24:37,400 Speaker 1: bad emotionally because last year off season twenty twenty one, 3560 02:24:37,440 --> 02:24:40,040 Speaker 1: I literally did everything I could. I was working my diet, 3561 02:24:40,120 --> 02:24:43,280 Speaker 1: My diet was on point, my conditioning was on point, 3562 02:24:43,360 --> 02:24:45,680 Speaker 1: my strength, like everything was on point. Like I was 3563 02:24:45,800 --> 02:24:48,160 Speaker 1: dialed the fuck in. You get hurt the second game 3564 02:24:48,200 --> 02:24:50,200 Speaker 1: of the season. It literally is one of those things 3565 02:24:50,240 --> 02:24:53,080 Speaker 1: where it's like I did everything I could during that journey, 3566 02:24:53,160 --> 02:24:55,160 Speaker 1: even though like the result is not what I wanted. 3567 02:24:55,240 --> 02:24:57,840 Speaker 1: So I literally separated myself way easier than I thought 3568 02:24:57,840 --> 02:25:01,800 Speaker 1: I would from feeling negative emotions while still working through them, 3569 02:25:02,760 --> 02:25:06,800 Speaker 1: Like I started feeling like happier, Like I started realizing, oh, 3570 02:25:06,840 --> 02:25:08,480 Speaker 1: I don't have to act like this. I started doing 3571 02:25:08,520 --> 02:25:10,320 Speaker 1: like self work, being like how do I work on 3572 02:25:10,800 --> 02:25:13,520 Speaker 1: me so I don't have to feel this resentment from 3573 02:25:13,640 --> 02:25:15,840 Speaker 1: this person or that person because of how a railroad 3574 02:25:15,879 --> 02:25:17,640 Speaker 1: in the past trying to get to the top of 3575 02:25:17,959 --> 02:25:20,840 Speaker 1: wherever I was. And now it's like, Okay, if I 3576 02:25:20,920 --> 02:25:23,400 Speaker 1: want to go play football again, the only thing I 3577 02:25:23,560 --> 02:25:25,480 Speaker 1: know how to play football at a high level is 3578 02:25:25,520 --> 02:25:27,800 Speaker 1: to go back into that mindset. But it's so difficult 3579 02:25:27,800 --> 02:25:29,640 Speaker 1: to do once you realize what you've been doing to people. 3580 02:25:30,240 --> 02:25:33,240 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, it's so much, it's so difficult. 3581 02:25:34,160 --> 02:25:36,800 Speaker 1: That's why people like it's hard for people to understand 3582 02:25:37,120 --> 02:25:40,039 Speaker 1: what it takes to be a professional athlete, a professional 3583 02:25:40,080 --> 02:25:43,600 Speaker 1: athlete alone, but an elite professional athlete, Like it's very 3584 02:25:43,760 --> 02:25:47,080 Speaker 1: you have to be so selfish and it's fucking it's 3585 02:25:47,160 --> 02:25:49,880 Speaker 1: hard so not to like, I have to go and 3586 02:25:49,959 --> 02:25:52,840 Speaker 1: reevaluate that because we literally I've I was telling, well, 3587 02:25:52,959 --> 02:25:54,680 Speaker 1: I think I think I'm done. I don't know if 3588 02:25:54,680 --> 02:25:56,760 Speaker 1: I want to play anymore. The second that game ended, 3589 02:25:57,360 --> 02:25:59,480 Speaker 1: the second they took a knee, I was like, maybe 3590 02:25:59,520 --> 02:26:00,400 Speaker 1: I should do one more. 3591 02:26:00,959 --> 02:26:01,480 Speaker 3: Maybe I can. 3592 02:26:01,760 --> 02:26:03,920 Speaker 1: And then you start playing that fucking same game you've 3593 02:26:03,920 --> 02:26:05,640 Speaker 1: played in your head over and over again where it's 3594 02:26:05,720 --> 02:26:07,720 Speaker 1: like you could come back and do X, Y and Z. 3595 02:26:07,879 --> 02:26:10,640 Speaker 1: What a comebackstory? And now you're rewriting that story in 3596 02:26:10,680 --> 02:26:13,879 Speaker 1: your head that only you really know. Yeah, so I'm like, fuck, 3597 02:26:14,480 --> 02:26:16,240 Speaker 1: it's been a weird couple of days for me. It's 3598 02:26:16,240 --> 02:26:18,800 Speaker 1: been a very weird couple of days. Like something, I 3599 02:26:18,840 --> 02:26:21,960 Speaker 1: gotta sit with him, figure out, get any words of 3600 02:26:22,000 --> 02:26:23,600 Speaker 1: advice for the boy, didn't you get any advice from me? 3601 02:26:24,560 --> 02:26:26,120 Speaker 1: I mean, should take it one day at a time, 3602 02:26:26,480 --> 02:26:29,480 Speaker 1: Like that's the amazing. I feel like sometimes you get 3603 02:26:29,520 --> 02:26:31,320 Speaker 1: caught up in like that cliche, like you know, take 3604 02:26:31,320 --> 02:26:33,040 Speaker 1: it one day at a time, like one media at time. 3605 02:26:33,840 --> 02:26:36,840 Speaker 5: Well, I mean it's literally real. It's like how you 3606 02:26:36,920 --> 02:26:40,560 Speaker 5: feel right now won't affect how you feel right now, 3607 02:26:40,680 --> 02:26:43,920 Speaker 5: like the emotions of the situation that the season ending, 3608 02:26:44,280 --> 02:26:46,560 Speaker 5: like there's just a ton of emotions just thrown right 3609 02:26:46,640 --> 02:26:46,880 Speaker 5: at you. 3610 02:26:47,440 --> 02:26:49,400 Speaker 1: But things like just taking time to just like chill, 3611 02:26:49,520 --> 02:26:50,400 Speaker 1: take it a day at a time. 3612 02:26:50,440 --> 02:26:53,240 Speaker 5: And then like personally, I know you're trying to figure 3613 02:26:53,240 --> 02:26:55,560 Speaker 5: out like should am I gonna come back and play football? 3614 02:26:55,720 --> 02:26:59,160 Speaker 3: Just play ball? It's like I feel like, you know 3615 02:26:59,360 --> 02:27:00,160 Speaker 3: a lot of people ask. 3616 02:27:00,200 --> 02:27:03,160 Speaker 5: Me why when you just go like do engineering, you 3617 02:27:03,200 --> 02:27:04,800 Speaker 5: know what I mean, like in six years, like you 3618 02:27:04,840 --> 02:27:07,840 Speaker 5: didn't get your opportunity, you just go do engineering, And 3619 02:27:07,920 --> 02:27:09,400 Speaker 5: like the biggest thing for me is like I played 3620 02:27:09,400 --> 02:27:11,720 Speaker 5: football since I was five. I'm sure it's probably similar 3621 02:27:11,760 --> 02:27:14,440 Speaker 5: story for you. And it's like the blessing that is 3622 02:27:14,480 --> 02:27:16,440 Speaker 5: to be a professional athlete and then to be at 3623 02:27:16,440 --> 02:27:19,040 Speaker 5: the top. It's like as long as at least for me, 3624 02:27:19,080 --> 02:27:20,880 Speaker 5: as long as like I can do it, and the 3625 02:27:21,080 --> 02:27:24,000 Speaker 5: there's even an out of possibility that I can be 3626 02:27:24,040 --> 02:27:26,080 Speaker 5: a professional athlete playing the game that I've loved since 3627 02:27:26,080 --> 02:27:28,280 Speaker 5: I was five, I'll take it and run with it. 3628 02:27:28,800 --> 02:27:32,240 Speaker 5: So just like just putting that into perspective, like seeing 3629 02:27:32,280 --> 02:27:35,160 Speaker 5: all the emotions thrown at you, taking a breath, taking 3630 02:27:35,200 --> 02:27:36,959 Speaker 5: a day at a time, and then going from there 3631 02:27:36,959 --> 02:27:39,040 Speaker 5: and then all right, I want to do this, and 3632 02:27:39,080 --> 02:27:41,160 Speaker 5: then working hard every single day at it. It's kind 3633 02:27:41,200 --> 02:27:43,960 Speaker 5: of that's my mindset, and I know that's as you said, 3634 02:27:44,000 --> 02:27:47,600 Speaker 5: that's been your mindset. Just because you've recognized you're in 3635 02:27:47,640 --> 02:27:50,240 Speaker 5: a different headspace doesn't mean you can't be that same 3636 02:27:50,280 --> 02:27:52,320 Speaker 5: player in a different headspace, yeah. 3637 02:27:52,360 --> 02:27:53,760 Speaker 4: Or it also doesn't mean too like me. 3638 02:27:54,040 --> 02:27:56,200 Speaker 2: Like again, I'm not like trying to speak for you 3639 02:27:56,280 --> 02:27:58,400 Speaker 2: or nothing like that, but I'm saying, even for me, 3640 02:27:58,480 --> 02:28:00,320 Speaker 2: if you decide, like one day you wake up and 3641 02:28:00,600 --> 02:28:02,840 Speaker 2: just decide, like, man, I'm not I'm not as interested, 3642 02:28:03,360 --> 02:28:05,440 Speaker 2: Like that's all obviously all right too for sure. 3643 02:28:05,480 --> 02:28:08,720 Speaker 13: Yeah, And if you're Yeah, because I've always it's always 3644 02:28:08,720 --> 02:28:10,440 Speaker 13: a tough thing about getting out of it is there's 3645 02:28:10,600 --> 02:28:13,760 Speaker 13: there's people like there were always uh, you know, like 3646 02:28:13,840 --> 02:28:16,360 Speaker 13: family members or people in your close circle that you 3647 02:28:16,440 --> 02:28:18,440 Speaker 13: know they think like you need to be putting more 3648 02:28:18,480 --> 02:28:21,040 Speaker 13: focus in the football versus like you know, for me, 3649 02:28:21,400 --> 02:28:23,119 Speaker 13: it's like doing more of this stuff like hey, why 3650 02:28:23,120 --> 02:28:24,520 Speaker 13: aren't you trying to be in a training camp and 3651 02:28:24,560 --> 02:28:25,720 Speaker 13: stuff like that, And. 3652 02:28:25,760 --> 02:28:29,680 Speaker 2: It's like being okay with like releasing yourself of those expectations, 3653 02:28:30,040 --> 02:28:30,400 Speaker 2: you know, like. 3654 02:28:30,480 --> 02:28:33,120 Speaker 3: That's like the hardest part, like the outside expectation. 3655 02:28:33,120 --> 02:28:35,080 Speaker 2: Right, because you said that to you said too, in 3656 02:28:35,120 --> 02:28:37,320 Speaker 2: the ending, your journey is obviously different, but the ending 3657 02:28:37,440 --> 02:28:39,440 Speaker 2: is like, you know, you could still be the same 3658 02:28:39,560 --> 02:28:41,240 Speaker 2: player in the same breath. 3659 02:28:41,280 --> 02:28:44,040 Speaker 4: But it's also good. It's also fine if you're like 3660 02:28:44,160 --> 02:28:44,640 Speaker 4: not one. 3661 02:28:44,560 --> 02:28:45,920 Speaker 3: Though, if you just if you want. 3662 02:28:47,200 --> 02:28:48,960 Speaker 5: I mean, at the end of the day, like you, 3663 02:28:49,560 --> 02:28:51,160 Speaker 5: each of us, you know, we've earned I feel like 3664 02:28:51,400 --> 02:28:53,360 Speaker 5: just the work we've put in, just in our craft, 3665 02:28:53,400 --> 02:28:55,760 Speaker 5: whether it's on the field, just in life, like earn 3666 02:28:55,800 --> 02:28:57,400 Speaker 5: the ability to be able to do whatever you want, 3667 02:28:57,800 --> 02:28:58,160 Speaker 5: which is. 3668 02:28:58,480 --> 02:29:00,000 Speaker 3: Which is which is which is powerful? 3669 02:29:00,360 --> 02:29:02,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like the majority doesn't get to do that. 3670 02:29:02,959 --> 02:29:05,240 Speaker 2: So even understanding that perspective, the exactly we're in the 3671 02:29:05,280 --> 02:29:07,600 Speaker 2: position to even get to choose what our path will be. 3672 02:29:10,000 --> 02:29:13,720 Speaker 3: Is awesful? Yeah, yeah, it is. 3673 02:29:14,080 --> 02:29:17,320 Speaker 1: Is fucking It's an interesting predicament to be in because 3674 02:29:18,160 --> 02:29:20,279 Speaker 1: I don't know you guys, but I'm sure this conversation 3675 02:29:20,280 --> 02:29:21,640 Speaker 1: happened in the locker room all the time where it's like, 3676 02:29:21,680 --> 02:29:23,160 Speaker 1: how many years do you want to play in the NFL? 3677 02:29:23,640 --> 02:29:27,680 Speaker 1: And my answer for that day, yeah, yeah, how long 3678 02:29:27,720 --> 02:29:28,200 Speaker 1: you want to do that? 3679 02:29:30,000 --> 02:29:30,200 Speaker 7: Yeah? 3680 02:29:31,240 --> 02:29:33,680 Speaker 1: And like the majority of people will say ten yeah, 3681 02:29:33,680 --> 02:29:35,280 Speaker 1: I never said ten hours, said this cliche line. I 3682 02:29:35,280 --> 02:29:36,920 Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna play football till I win. And 3683 02:29:37,160 --> 02:29:39,160 Speaker 1: it was not like win a super Bowl whatever, just 3684 02:29:39,200 --> 02:29:42,120 Speaker 1: feel like whatever. Basically it was like fulfillment. Like if 3685 02:29:42,160 --> 02:29:44,760 Speaker 1: I feel like I've won the game of football, where 3686 02:29:44,800 --> 02:29:46,240 Speaker 1: like I've done what I needed to do in this 3687 02:29:46,360 --> 02:29:49,280 Speaker 1: game to leave an impression that I'm proud of, then 3688 02:29:49,360 --> 02:29:49,600 Speaker 1: I am. 3689 02:29:49,959 --> 02:29:50,440 Speaker 3: I'm good. 3690 02:29:51,080 --> 02:29:52,840 Speaker 1: And if I said about it, I'm like I've done that. 3691 02:29:53,560 --> 02:29:57,280 Speaker 1: I've I've I've conquered individual accolades to the highest degree. 3692 02:29:57,760 --> 02:30:00,320 Speaker 1: I've we talked about this on the POP. I guess 3693 02:30:00,480 --> 02:30:02,640 Speaker 1: I was a part of team a team that was 3694 02:30:02,800 --> 02:30:05,200 Speaker 1: awful two and fourteen, three and thirteen the next year 3695 02:30:05,560 --> 02:30:08,600 Speaker 1: and was a massive part after seeing so much turnover 3696 02:30:08,640 --> 02:30:11,480 Speaker 1: in the locker room, being a foundational piece and changing 3697 02:30:11,520 --> 02:30:13,879 Speaker 1: a culture on a franchise like I take I take 3698 02:30:13,959 --> 02:30:16,400 Speaker 1: so much Parde in that. And so now it's like, 3699 02:30:17,280 --> 02:30:20,039 Speaker 1: what are my whys to go play football? Because if 3700 02:30:20,040 --> 02:30:22,480 Speaker 1: it's if it's for money, I'm out, Like there's I 3701 02:30:22,760 --> 02:30:25,080 Speaker 1: will not play football just to I've made it. 3702 02:30:25,120 --> 02:30:27,560 Speaker 3: I've made money. I am. I'm gonna be all right. 3703 02:30:28,240 --> 02:30:31,440 Speaker 1: But it's now it's like a long like obviously if 3704 02:30:31,440 --> 02:30:33,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go play somewhere, I have to be I 3705 02:30:33,560 --> 02:30:35,560 Speaker 1: have to make I have to make money that I'm worth. 3706 02:30:36,000 --> 02:30:38,760 Speaker 1: But there has to be another fighting urge, whether it's 3707 02:30:38,800 --> 02:30:41,920 Speaker 1: I need another year, I like, I don't know. 3708 02:30:42,400 --> 02:30:45,600 Speaker 3: I don't know urge at the moment. Right now. I 3709 02:30:45,720 --> 02:30:47,360 Speaker 3: do right now, I do a little bit. I have 3710 02:30:47,440 --> 02:30:50,640 Speaker 3: a it's tough. I'm loyal to the soil. 3711 02:30:50,840 --> 02:30:53,160 Speaker 1: Like I I literally came back from my fifth year 3712 02:30:53,160 --> 02:30:54,680 Speaker 1: at Michigan when I could have been a top ten 3713 02:30:54,720 --> 02:30:57,640 Speaker 1: pick the year before, like an idiot, because I thought 3714 02:30:57,640 --> 02:30:59,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna want to make them championship and I wanted 3715 02:30:59,200 --> 02:31:00,440 Speaker 1: to bring greatness back to Michigan. 3716 02:31:00,640 --> 02:31:02,000 Speaker 3: We were like we were in the. 3717 02:31:02,240 --> 02:31:06,240 Speaker 1: Buffalo Wowings Bowl my senior year. We lost in the 3718 02:31:06,280 --> 02:31:08,560 Speaker 1: state like forty four to ten. No, you were fucking terrible. 3719 02:31:08,959 --> 02:31:10,920 Speaker 1: And if if I just sat there logically and looked 3720 02:31:10,920 --> 02:31:12,200 Speaker 1: at the roster, I go, oh, we're not going to 3721 02:31:12,240 --> 02:31:12,840 Speaker 1: be good next year. 3722 02:31:12,879 --> 02:31:15,200 Speaker 3: You should dip. But I'm just a loyal guy. 3723 02:31:15,280 --> 02:31:19,160 Speaker 1: So like the thought of me be in a in 3724 02:31:19,240 --> 02:31:21,120 Speaker 1: a different uniform besides the Titans, like that does not 3725 02:31:21,240 --> 02:31:22,960 Speaker 1: sit well with me, you know. 3726 02:31:23,720 --> 02:31:25,640 Speaker 3: But also. 3727 02:31:27,160 --> 02:31:30,720 Speaker 1: Like watching the demise of Taylor Lawan, I sit there 3728 02:31:30,760 --> 02:31:32,520 Speaker 1: and like, you know, do you want to be a 3729 02:31:32,520 --> 02:31:34,040 Speaker 1: guy on the Titans that just was good? 3730 02:31:34,760 --> 02:31:37,039 Speaker 3: Or can I still be good? And so if I truly. 3731 02:31:36,840 --> 02:31:40,000 Speaker 14: Believe that my knees straight because nothing else in my 3732 02:31:40,040 --> 02:31:42,120 Speaker 14: body hurts, my fingers fucked up, my thumbs fucked up, 3733 02:31:42,120 --> 02:31:45,440 Speaker 14: but that they work. So if nothing else hurts, and 3734 02:31:45,480 --> 02:31:47,760 Speaker 14: I know I can be a not maybe not as 3735 02:31:47,800 --> 02:31:49,480 Speaker 14: good as I used to be, but still a very 3736 02:31:50,080 --> 02:31:54,360 Speaker 14: above average football player, then I have something to give 3737 02:31:54,360 --> 02:31:57,600 Speaker 14: to the Titans. Still, It's just about figuring out what 3738 02:31:57,760 --> 02:32:00,400 Speaker 14: I truly want, because it'd be ridiculous. 3739 02:32:00,400 --> 02:32:00,840 Speaker 3: Is not sit here. 3740 02:32:00,840 --> 02:32:02,520 Speaker 1: I stay on this bus once a week with the boys, 3741 02:32:02,600 --> 02:32:05,880 Speaker 1: and we travel all around the country and it's fucking awesome. 3742 02:32:06,240 --> 02:32:08,200 Speaker 1: This is so this is so much fun and it's 3743 02:32:08,720 --> 02:32:10,360 Speaker 1: doing well. I know you don't watch, but you should. 3744 02:32:10,400 --> 02:32:13,040 Speaker 1: We gotta get numbers. I watchun Yeah, I appreciate that. 3745 02:32:13,280 --> 02:32:16,840 Speaker 1: Yeah you're three two or three cat, But it's cool, man. 3746 02:32:17,040 --> 02:32:19,720 Speaker 1: It's just about it's just about evaluating that stuff. Yea 3747 02:32:19,879 --> 02:32:22,080 Speaker 1: evaluating and finding out. But they taking one day at 3748 02:32:22,080 --> 02:32:23,440 Speaker 1: a time. I don't have to make the decision right now. 3749 02:32:23,440 --> 02:32:25,360 Speaker 1: I just to keep gathering information so I can make 3750 02:32:25,400 --> 02:32:26,880 Speaker 1: the best decision for myself and my family. 3751 02:32:27,160 --> 02:32:28,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where we're at. 3752 02:32:29,000 --> 02:32:31,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you say the loyalty thing, but what about the 3753 02:32:31,360 --> 02:32:33,720 Speaker 2: first your first high school team? What about those boys 3754 02:32:34,360 --> 02:32:34,600 Speaker 2: that was. 3755 02:32:34,600 --> 02:32:36,720 Speaker 1: Not Yeah, that was my first and I only want 3756 02:32:36,720 --> 02:32:39,040 Speaker 1: a championship with that high school team. Sophomore year we 3757 02:32:39,120 --> 02:32:39,959 Speaker 1: won state fifteen. 3758 02:32:40,000 --> 02:32:42,080 Speaker 4: And oh, so you do one the boys. 3759 02:32:42,240 --> 02:32:45,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I my dad made me transfer, forced me kicking 3760 02:32:45,959 --> 02:32:46,840 Speaker 1: and screaming to transfer. 3761 02:32:47,480 --> 02:32:49,880 Speaker 3: Transferring high school is kind of like the hardest thing 3762 02:32:49,920 --> 02:32:51,320 Speaker 3: to do. Yeah, oh hard, dude. 3763 02:32:51,560 --> 02:32:54,600 Speaker 1: And my boys, I like, I literally have ro Minrole 3764 02:32:54,640 --> 02:32:56,560 Speaker 1: six tattooed here and here for my boys, the Sexy 3765 02:32:56,600 --> 02:32:57,840 Speaker 1: six or the Dirty half dozen. 3766 02:32:58,080 --> 02:32:59,440 Speaker 3: Want whichever one you want to choose. 3767 02:33:00,040 --> 02:33:02,680 Speaker 1: But like we were all a bunch of ugly focks too, 3768 02:33:02,800 --> 02:33:04,800 Speaker 1: like curly haired itit's and shit, like it was just funny. 3769 02:33:05,160 --> 02:33:06,480 Speaker 3: But they like I left. 3770 02:33:07,360 --> 02:33:10,160 Speaker 1: And there was one guy, Nick Bennett, who like came 3771 02:33:10,240 --> 02:33:13,360 Speaker 1: to the school my first day and like when I 3772 02:33:13,480 --> 02:33:14,960 Speaker 1: noticed it with that lunch called me, was like, hey, 3773 02:33:15,000 --> 02:33:16,560 Speaker 1: I'm in the parking lot. We had sub boy sandwich 3774 02:33:16,600 --> 02:33:18,040 Speaker 1: is waiting for me and we went and sat in 3775 02:33:18,040 --> 02:33:21,320 Speaker 1: the bleachers. But all the other boys basically like you're 3776 02:33:21,320 --> 02:33:24,160 Speaker 1: a trader, Like fuck you. Now, obviously we've all had 3777 02:33:24,160 --> 02:33:27,920 Speaker 1: those conversations. Were all good, but it was fucking tough 3778 02:33:27,959 --> 02:33:30,800 Speaker 1: because it was something i't even we're on a good 3779 02:33:30,800 --> 02:33:34,240 Speaker 1: place now, but we were legit, Like I legit was 3780 02:33:34,360 --> 02:33:36,600 Speaker 1: forced to transfer. Now, it's the best decision ever happened. 3781 02:33:36,680 --> 02:33:39,040 Speaker 1: Like I played one year off the line and was 3782 02:33:39,080 --> 02:33:41,960 Speaker 1: able to go to Michigan. So that well, it was 3783 02:33:42,000 --> 02:33:43,760 Speaker 1: the best decision I ever made in my life. That 3784 02:33:43,920 --> 02:33:45,760 Speaker 1: wasn't even I didn't even make it. So it was 3785 02:33:45,760 --> 02:33:49,600 Speaker 1: a good deal. But loyal, you don't see any other buses. 3786 02:33:51,320 --> 02:33:53,160 Speaker 1: What I don't go in any other buses. I stay 3787 02:33:53,200 --> 02:33:53,640 Speaker 1: on this bus. 3788 02:33:54,360 --> 02:33:55,199 Speaker 4: Loyals of the soil. 3789 02:33:55,320 --> 02:33:58,560 Speaker 1: Loyal to the soil. I think two thirty four is 3790 02:33:58,840 --> 02:33:59,920 Speaker 1: a long time for a podcast. 3791 02:34:00,000 --> 02:34:01,360 Speaker 4: This, I do think it is. I'll ask my other 3792 02:34:01,480 --> 02:34:03,320 Speaker 4: questions off the when we get out of here. 3793 02:34:03,879 --> 02:34:04,240 Speaker 3: I'm sure. 3794 02:34:04,560 --> 02:34:08,120 Speaker 2: I'm sure the boys back there, they're probably like, fuck man, No, 3795 02:34:08,280 --> 02:34:09,080 Speaker 2: not you guys like you. 3796 02:34:09,400 --> 02:34:11,680 Speaker 4: I'm talking about the guest, our guest. Oh yeah, I'm 3797 02:34:11,680 --> 02:34:12,520 Speaker 4: talking about our guests. 3798 02:34:13,080 --> 02:34:14,640 Speaker 5: Oh, we're straight. We were going to go watch the 3799 02:34:14,720 --> 02:34:16,520 Speaker 5: national championship somewhere. What do you think he's gonna win 3800 02:34:16,520 --> 02:34:17,360 Speaker 5: the National championship? 3801 02:34:17,600 --> 02:34:21,640 Speaker 2: Congratulations to the TCU horn Frogs, horn Fox no time. 3802 02:34:22,160 --> 02:34:24,440 Speaker 4: I hope one time that comes out tomorrow. 3803 02:34:25,080 --> 02:34:27,000 Speaker 1: My fucking finger kind of cocked out for a second. 3804 02:34:27,080 --> 02:34:30,840 Speaker 3: We got that. I'm all for that. Yeah, fuck the bulldogs, dude. Hey. 3805 02:34:31,120 --> 02:34:32,720 Speaker 1: Also, we'd love to come to your school for a 3806 02:34:32,760 --> 02:34:36,080 Speaker 1: football Yeah, we'd love to come to the offense. 3807 02:34:35,879 --> 02:34:37,240 Speaker 4: The dogs Dogs. 3808 02:34:37,760 --> 02:34:40,840 Speaker 2: All right, this last question, the roadback question. Use code 3809 02:34:40,879 --> 02:34:43,160 Speaker 2: boys b O Y s on roadback dot com for 3810 02:34:43,240 --> 02:34:45,400 Speaker 2: twenty percent off your first purchase. That's r h O 3811 02:34:45,640 --> 02:34:48,480 Speaker 2: B A c K dot com. Code Boys. They work 3812 02:34:48,520 --> 02:34:50,600 Speaker 2: with the best college athletes from will Anderson to the 3813 02:34:50,640 --> 02:34:53,120 Speaker 2: boy Michael Mayer to be Jean Robinson and also the 3814 02:34:53,160 --> 02:34:54,000 Speaker 2: busting with the boys. 3815 02:34:54,360 --> 02:34:54,680 Speaker 4: Boys. 3816 02:34:55,080 --> 02:34:57,720 Speaker 2: They also just drop new performance joggers and trust us, 3817 02:34:57,879 --> 02:35:00,480 Speaker 2: you're gonna want these, so use code Boys for twenty. 3818 02:35:01,400 --> 02:35:02,800 Speaker 3: What do you think they win the Super Bowl? I 3819 02:35:02,920 --> 02:35:08,680 Speaker 3: think I think either Chiefs. I don't think I think 3820 02:35:08,720 --> 02:35:09,480 Speaker 3: the Bills are good. 3821 02:35:09,879 --> 02:35:11,840 Speaker 5: I don't like the offense is like, I don't think 3822 02:35:11,879 --> 02:35:15,760 Speaker 5: they're asks just as the Chiefs are the Chiefs. Or 3823 02:35:17,280 --> 02:35:19,000 Speaker 5: I think the Chiefs are gonna win it. Try and 3824 02:35:19,040 --> 02:35:23,720 Speaker 5: thinking the NFC, who could give a run? Eagles Eagles? Yeah, 3825 02:35:24,720 --> 02:35:26,400 Speaker 5: but I feel like I feel like the Chiefs versus 3826 02:35:26,400 --> 02:35:28,640 Speaker 5: the Eagles in the in the chance in in the 3827 02:35:28,760 --> 02:35:31,200 Speaker 5: Super Bowl, like the Chiefs are gonna outscore them. 3828 02:35:32,000 --> 02:35:33,160 Speaker 4: I can't have the Chiefs win. 3829 02:35:33,760 --> 02:35:34,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, we like the Chiefs. 3830 02:35:34,879 --> 02:35:36,920 Speaker 2: Well, I just I like to go from the hot 3831 02:35:37,000 --> 02:35:38,640 Speaker 2: take of saying they won't even make the playoffs and 3832 02:35:38,640 --> 02:35:39,240 Speaker 2: then watch. 3833 02:35:39,160 --> 02:35:40,000 Speaker 3: Them win Super Bowl. 3834 02:35:40,240 --> 02:35:40,720 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 3835 02:35:41,400 --> 02:35:45,240 Speaker 3: Will can't take. I don't know if I can afford that's. 3836 02:35:45,040 --> 02:35:48,040 Speaker 1: A big all right, boys, Well, wait listen, we appreciate 3837 02:35:48,040 --> 02:35:51,240 Speaker 1: you coming on the bus. Short what's the word of notice? 3838 02:35:51,320 --> 02:35:55,320 Speaker 1: Short notice, that's outstanding. I really appreciate you coming on listening. 3839 02:35:55,760 --> 02:35:58,279 Speaker 1: Please follow Josh Dobbs on all his social media platforms, 3840 02:35:58,320 --> 02:35:58,920 Speaker 1: but also. 3841 02:35:58,879 --> 02:36:01,320 Speaker 4: Josh follow us House, follow us goes both go. 3842 02:36:01,360 --> 02:36:01,959 Speaker 3: Ahead and listen. 3843 02:36:02,080 --> 02:36:05,360 Speaker 1: Dude rocked the shirt the boys shirt. Hell yeah, hell yeah. 3844 02:36:05,640 --> 02:36:08,320 Speaker 1: Subscribe rate five stars. Bake hugs, tiny Casses. We love 3845 02:36:08,320 --> 02:36:08,879 Speaker 1: you all so much