1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: I am six forty. You're listening to the John Cobel 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: podcast on the iHeartRadio app. I want to get right 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: to our guest, Steve Hilton, because Steve is at the 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: airport waiting to go through security. Steve is somebody ought 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: to pay attention to. Is a very interesting guy. He's 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: running for governor. He is the top Republican in the polls, 7 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: behind only Katie Porter on the Democrat side. He has 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: an interesting career. He was an advisor to the British 9 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: Prime Minister David Cameron about fifteen years ago. He also 10 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: hosted a weekly show on Fox News for six years. 11 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: He's a tech entrepreneur and he's running for governor as 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,639 Speaker 1: a Republican. And one day soon, Steve, I'm helping sit 13 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: down and talk at length about how you see the 14 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: state of California. But since we only have a short time. 15 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: You are taking some action against Governor Newsom's redistricting plan 16 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 1: that he's putting on the ballot, and you filed a 17 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: lawsuit in federal court to stop this plan. Why didn't 18 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: you go through it? And what are the what's the 19 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: legal reasoning you have? Yeah to say what he's doing 20 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: is wrong. 21 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: Thank you, Joe, really appreciate being with you. Yeah, I 22 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: can't wait to sit down and talk about California and 23 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 2: where we're at because it's not good and we need 24 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 2: change and I'm determined to make it happen. Look Prop fifty, 25 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 2: let's start with what it is. It's got nothing to 26 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: do with anything positive for anyone in California, doesn't help 27 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: anyone in their lives that have been so ruined by 28 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 2: these far left Democrat policies. Basically, it is a massive, illegal, unconstitutional, 29 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: two one hundred and fifty million dollars worth taxpayer funded 30 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 2: contribution to Gavin Newsom's presidential campaign. That's what it's going 31 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: to cost for this special election that nobody asked for, 32 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: that nobody wants. That's not going to do any good. 33 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: And so my point is, of course, if it gets 34 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: on the ballot, we need to fight it, and I'm 35 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: going to be right there with the No on fifty 36 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 2: campaign already have been. But my plan is to stop 37 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: it even getting to the ballot so we don't waste 38 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 2: our money on this. So the federal lawsuit is different 39 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: to the two lawsuits now that have been filed by 40 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: Republicans and Sacramento they filed in state court and they 41 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 2: were thrown out almost immediately by these puppet courts that 42 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: we have now or were you know, members appointed by Democrats. 43 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 2: The federal argument is as follows. It's based on the 44 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 2: equal protection clause of the US Constitution and actually the 45 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 2: California Constitution. It's a very simple point. Equal protection has 46 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 2: been defined in the law, amongst other things, as including 47 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 2: the principle of one person, one vote, and has also 48 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: been defined in case law over decades as one person, 49 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: one vote, meaning every vote should have equal value, and 50 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: that has been defined as meaning very specifically that electoral 51 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: districts should have roughly equal population. Otherwise you can't guarantee 52 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: that every vote has equal value if the districts have 53 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: different numbers of people in them. And so the simple 54 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 2: point is they've drawn these maps up for Prop fifty 55 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: in secret, behind closed doors, without a census. There's a 56 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: reason that the districting in our constitution has been tied 57 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: to the census that happens every ten years. You do 58 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 2: the census, you find out how many people live where, 59 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: then you can draw accurate maps. They haven't done that. 60 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: They have no idea who lives where. We've had millions 61 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: of people fleeing California, driven out by the high taxes 62 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: and cost of living. We've had our neighborhoods burned to 63 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: the ground in Los Angeles. They don't know where people are, 64 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 2: and so there's no way they can guarantee anything close 65 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: to that equal protection requirement of every vote having equal value. 66 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: And I'll just make the final point about how unfair 67 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: this all is even today. We have these massively jerry 68 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: mannered maps today, right now, a Democrat vote in California 69 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: is worth three times what a Republican vote is. But 70 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 2: after these maps go through, if we let it happen, 71 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: here are the numbers based on last year's election for 72 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 2: president in California, after these maps go through, if we 73 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 2: let it happen, it will take one hundred and ninety 74 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: three thousand votes to elect a Democrat to Congress. It 75 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: would take one point five to million votes to elect 76 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 2: a Republican to Congress. So it would be a Democrat 77 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: vote being worth eight times a Republican vote. Is completely outrageous, 78 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: and that's why we're trying to stop it in this 79 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 2: tracks with this federal lawsuit. 80 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, about forty percent, a little more than forty percent 81 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: of voters in California vote for a Republican congress person. 82 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: But if this plan goes through, Republican voters will have 83 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: four of the fifty two seats. That's going to be 84 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,559 Speaker 1: less than ten percent, even though they're over forty percent 85 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 1: of the vote. 86 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 2: It's actually six percent. I mean, it's just an obscene 87 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 2: attack and on Republican representation in California. That just really 88 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 2: even Republican, you could say non Democrat, you know, anyone 89 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 2: who doesn't support one party rule, independence and Democrats as well. 90 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 2: It is completely unacceptable. And I also just want to 91 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: nail this argument that you hear from Newsom and the left, 92 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: which is, oh, this is just responding to Texas. No 93 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 2: it's not, because actually, if you look at the current 94 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: situation in California, it was California that started this latest 95 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: round of gerry mandering over the last few years. They 96 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 2: talk about how we have an independent citizens districting Commission. 97 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 2: I've spoken to people involved in that process over a 98 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 2: decade ago, and they all tell me the same thing 99 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 2: that the Democrats totally hijacked that process. The only lawyers, 100 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 2: for example, the outside council for the so called independent 101 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 2: Districting Commission were the DNC lawyers, the lawyers for the 102 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: Obama Biden campaign at the time. So the whole thing 103 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: already been rigged. That's why right now we have, as 104 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: you accurately say, for the forty percent Republican vote we 105 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 2: have in California today, there are only seventeen percent of 106 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 2: the seats and so it's bad enough as it is. 107 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 2: And actually here's the number. If we had fair representation 108 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 2: today in California, Republicans would have an extra twelve House 109 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: seats today right now. And so you look at even 110 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 2: if you buy the argument that what Texas did is wrong, 111 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 2: it doesn't even go halfway to correcting what California did. 112 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: First, how confident do you feel about winning this case 113 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: in federal court. 114 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 2: Stronger than in state court. That's why we went to 115 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 2: federal court. We haven't. The process is that you file 116 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,799 Speaker 2: the complaint. The complaint is against Gavin Usom, and surely 117 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 2: where the sectories stay, they are supposed to reply. They haven't. 118 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 2: They're stringing the thing out. So we're now coming back 119 00:06:55,760 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 2: with an injunction, which we are going to fire any 120 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: day now, which forces the pace. It actually gets a 121 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 2: judge involved and starts to really require them to come 122 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: to the table, and we'll see. I'm not sitting here 123 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 2: with you saying I can guarantee that I will stop this, 124 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 2: but this is our best shot. The legal argument is 125 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: very very strong and clear, and so if justice were 126 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: to be done, we would stop this because there is 127 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 2: absolutely clear cut legal evidence on our side. The question 128 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 2: will be whether the courts want to intervene at this 129 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: stage of the process. So you can never guarantee that, 130 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: but it's definitely a very very strong legal argument. 131 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: Well, the whole thing is a public relations project for 132 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: Newsome to get the Democratic presidential. 133 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 2: Nomination, exactly, exactly, all right, Steve, one hundred percent what 134 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 2: it is. And that's why it's outrageous that he is 135 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 2: trying to take two one hundred and fifty million dollars 136 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 2: of our money to pay for it. We've got to 137 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 2: stop that. 138 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: Steve Hilton. I want you to come to the studio 139 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: first chance week and get together and talk at length 140 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: about your heart. He's running for governor. He's actually the 141 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: top Republican in the polls behind overall, only behind Katie Porter. 142 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: All Right, we'll talk soon, Steve. Thanks for coming on. 143 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 2: Thank you, John, appreciate it. 144 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: Soon Steve Hilton, and he's if you have not been 145 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: tracking him before, I think you should and we certainly 146 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: will have him on very soon. 147 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AM 148 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 3: six forty and. 149 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: The moistline is eight seven seven moist eighty six for Friday, 150 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: eight seven seven moist eighty six. We just had on 151 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: Steve Hilton, and you're gonna get to know him better 152 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: as time goes on, because Steve is the leading Republican 153 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: candidate for governor. He's in second place overall behind Katie Porter, 154 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: the Democrat, and unless somebody else barges into the race, 155 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: these may be the leaders going into next year the 156 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: primaries in June. Also, Chad Bianco's a strong Republican candidate. 157 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: Antonio Viewer Ghos on the Democratic side has got some following. 158 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: Most of them are are complete unknown losers, government hacks, 159 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: refugees from the Newsom administration or the Bise Biden administration. Anyway, 160 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: Steve is filing a federal lawsuit block Newsom's redistricting, and 161 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: what Newsom is doing here is just just just ridiculously unfair, 162 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: because it's bad enough that forty plus percent of the 163 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: state votes Republican in these congressional elections, and they've ended 164 00:09:54,880 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: up with only seventeen percent of congressional seats, and after 165 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: Newsom has done it, it's going to go down to 166 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: six percent, and that just the math of it just 167 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: seems unfair, just seems wrong. But I really don't care 168 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: what they're doing in Texas. What they're doing in Texas 169 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: is wrong. People have the right to representation, and the 170 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: representative should come from a district that is drawn to 171 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: include people who are mostly living the same kind of life, 172 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: mostly a suburban area, an inner city area, a rural area, 173 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: ranching and farming, coastal because everybody's got a different set 174 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: of issues, and you need a representative arguing for your 175 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: set of issues. But now we have this monolithic party 176 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: that has bulldozing the rights of anybody else who doesn't 177 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: salute and then preaching about the threats to democracy out there. Well, 178 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: I don't know what's worse than taking away nearly all 179 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: the representation that's desired by over forty percent of the state. 180 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: But that's what this that's what this proposition to do. 181 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: Proposition fifty would redraw the congressional district lines and it's 182 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: been jammed through by the legislature and they don't care. 183 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: In fact, they're drawing districts so that these guys, some 184 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: of the leaders in the legislature, can run for Congress 185 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: next year because they're getting turned out and they need 186 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: a place to land, so they're drawing new districts for 187 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: them wherever they live. I mean, it's totally corrupt. It's 188 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: really one of the most grup things I've ever seen. 189 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: And so of course Gavin Newsom is the leader of 190 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: this movement. Cowmatters cowmatters dot org. They had a story 191 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: today which really highlights what I'm talking about. You know, 192 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 1: up in northern California and the rural areas where there's 193 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: a lot of farming, forests, lumb is a big is 194 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: a big product. They they have Republican representation. The people 195 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: are conservative, very conservative. In fact, several of the counties 196 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: in northern California want to secede from California because nobody 197 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: pays attention in Sacramento. None of the San Francisco leaders 198 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: who run things in Sacramento care what's going on in 199 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: these world districts. And they're Americans, they have rights to 200 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: they're Californians. But their life has to do with cattle, 201 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: with farming, with lumber. It has more, It has more 202 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: in common Accordyon, cal matters with taxes really than San 203 00:12:54,320 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: Francisco obviously. But now this new district redrawing scheme, they're 204 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: going to split up these Republican districts in northeast California 205 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: and connect them to left wing districts in the Bay Area. 206 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: Modoc County is now going to be sharing a representative 207 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 1: with people in Marin County. Marin County, which is the wealthiest, 208 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: the most liberal Bay Area county, of the most liberal 209 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: county in California. These are truly the progressive crackpots live 210 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: in Marin County. That's where Newisom's from. And now you're 211 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: going to have people in northeastern California who are basically 212 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: Republican libertarian. They want the government out of their lives. 213 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: They don't get any help from the government. In fact, 214 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: Newsom and Jerry Brown has done everything they can to 215 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: throttle their businesses because their businesses depend on lumber, cattle farming. 216 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: So Modoc County and two neighboring counties would be shifted 217 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: into a redrawn district. That'll stretch two hundred miles west 218 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: of the Pacific Coast and then south into some of 219 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: the state's wealthiest communities. In Marine County. One local rancher 220 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: Amy Martinez says, it's a smack in the face. How 221 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: could you put Marine County with Modoc County. It's just 222 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: a different perspective. Modoc County voted seventy eight percent in 223 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: favor of recalling Newsom. Proposition fifty is a bad, bad 224 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: idea because the people in Modoc County deserve their own 225 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: representation with somebody who lives that life and understands that life. 226 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: And the people in Marin County deserve representation from somebody 227 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: who lives that life. But because Marin County is way 228 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: more populated than Modoc County, you are going to get 229 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: a gaff and Newsom style politician and not somebody who 230 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: has lived and worked in a northeast rural area like Modoc. 231 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: Because of what they want to do is dilute the 232 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: voting power of all the Republican stronghold holds in the state. 233 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: There's no way a Republican can win the districts like this, 234 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: even though they've had that kind of representation for many, 235 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: many decades, and according to one Republican state senator staffer 236 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: named Nadine Bailey, they've taken every rural district and made 237 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: it an urban district. It's an assault on rural California. 238 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: The owner of a store in Lasson County, it'll be 239 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: very hard to fight back, so they will have no power, 240 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: no say, no representation in Modoc County and the other 241 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: neighboring counties. That's wrong. See, when you live in an 242 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: urban district, you don't have to worry about that kind 243 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: of stuff. But these people, yeah, they want to succeed, 244 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: but that's never going to happen either because you need 245 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: the approval of the crazies and Sacramento they years ago 246 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: they did want to secede from California. They're big Trump supporters, 247 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: over seventy percent. And apparently those kinds of people you 248 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: talk about, the deplorables, they don't deserve representation. You vote 249 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: for Trump, you vote against Newsom. Sorry, you don't get 250 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: a representative in Congress anymore. That's garbage, that's foul. 251 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 2: More. 252 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:10,239 Speaker 1: Coming up. 253 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 254 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 3: six forty. 255 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: And at one o'clock hour, I talked at length about 256 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 1: the Jimmy Kinill situation, So if you want to hear that, 257 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 1: because I had a lot of thoughts from different directions 258 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: and probably a lot of people disagreed with any number 259 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: of things I said. So we'll if you're interested in 260 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: that one o'clock hour on the podcast, we're going to 261 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: talk more about it. Coming up after three. You're gonna 262 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: have Drew Hayes on. Drew Hayes was once my program director. 263 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: He hired me once and Ken and I were KBC 264 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: years ago, and he worked for Disney and he's been 265 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 1: a radio executive and programmer for a long time, and 266 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: he's going to come on and talk about the Jimmy 267 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: Kimill situation because when he tired us, we were working 268 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: for Disney for a time and that's a whole different environment. Leavely, 269 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 1: so that's coming up. This is really a disgusting story. 270 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 1: I mean not disgusting in that you know you can't 271 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 1: eat while you're listening. It's just so wrong. There's so 272 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: much wrong with the justice system in California. The progressive 273 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: politicians have created such a dangerous and unfair environment. Let's 274 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: get to the crime first, twenty seven year old guy. 275 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: His name is job Uriah Taylor, schizophrenic. His mental disorder 276 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: results in extreme violence and whenever he's off his medication, 277 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 1: he goes after black people. Yeah, and one day in 278 00:18:56,359 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: March twenty twenty three, he went after three black men 279 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: near the expo line near the station. He started attacking 280 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: them violently, including one man sixty four year old named 281 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: Christian Hornberg. He was left permanently disabled after suffering a 282 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: traumatic brain injury. Now Hornberg sadly is now in a 283 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: long term care facility. So Hornberg is living the rest 284 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: of his life in a care facility. No more freedom now, 285 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: job Uriah Taylor, you would think would have gotten many 286 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: years in prison for savagely beating a guy so bad 287 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: that poor Christians ever going to see daylight again. Well, instead, 288 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: there was a judge named Lanna Kim in March Atlantic 289 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: Kim sent you Riah, job you Riah Taylor to a 290 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: diversion program. A diversion program. Jeez and Nathan Hackman, the 291 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: only county DA has gone to an appeals court to 292 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: try to get this diversion program sentence overturned. In fact, 293 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 1: job you' Riah Taylor didn't even stand trial. The deal was, Oh, 294 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: just go to the mental health diversion program and all 295 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: is well according to this idiot judge. And normally you think, well, 296 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: an appeals court can't throw that out and impose a 297 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: different sentence or order a trial. Well they can here 298 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: because Hawkman's argument is that this is not the way 299 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: diversion cases are supposed to work. He doesn't meet the 300 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: criteria for diversion cases because he savagely beat this guy 301 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: and left him with a severe brain injury. I just 302 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: can't believe this stuff. Now, the appeals court judges, one 303 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: of them named Laurie zellen Benson, noticed that the trial 304 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: court had never explicitly found that Taylor would not be 305 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 1: a risk to public safety. Right, you would think if 306 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: you're sending him into diversion instead of prison, oh, I 307 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: don't worry, He's not gonna hurt anybody. Well no, Lana 308 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: Kim never said that. Instead, Lena Kim said, well, you 309 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 1: can't predict the future, and this appella justice says, well, 310 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: that analysis is troubling. Also, for some reason, Taylor's medical 311 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: records were not turned over to prosecutors during the trial. 312 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: They kept asking for him so it seems like the 313 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: fix was in here to protect him. Also, the appellate 314 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: justice has noticed that Taylor is a history of refusing medication. 315 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: So this guy gets exceptionally violent against black people when 316 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: he's off his medication, and he never takes his medication. 317 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: In fact, the appellate Judge Benson said, the violence that 318 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,719 Speaker 1: brings us here today involved your client being off his beds. 319 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: That's not irrelevant. So Nathan is fighting the good fight here, 320 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: Nathan Hakman. And according to Hawkman's office, job Uriah Taylor 321 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: would get violent towards cellmates when he was in custody, 322 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: even if he was receiving treatment. So he's this violent, 323 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: dangerous mess of a human being, and the medication doesn't help. 324 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: Even putting him in jail for a short time doesn't help. 325 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: And this insane judge Lantic Kim sent him to a 326 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: diversion program, and the victim is going to be in 327 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: a long term care center for the rest of his life. 328 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: His brain is permanently damaged. I can't get over this one. 329 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: Turns out this this judge Alantic Kim, has a history 330 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: of letting violent offenders off easy. She granted a diversion 331 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: in a twenty twenty four case, what a defendant get this? 332 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: This defendant injured nine police officers during a high speed chase, 333 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: nine of them, and he got diversion. So apparently, according 334 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: to Judge Lanta Kim, everybody should get diversion. I mean, 335 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: if you could injure nine police officers or destroy somebody's 336 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: brain so they have to spend the rest of their 337 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: lives in long term care, does matter what you do? Huh? 338 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: I I just. 339 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: Hawkmann says that, and his prosecutor said that Taylor's diversion 340 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:22,479 Speaker 1: placement poses ongoing risks to public safety because when you're 341 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: in a diversion program, you're not held in a locked facility, 342 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: and you may leave programs without any immediate oversight. And 343 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: what goes on in a diversion program to take care 344 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: of a schizophrenic who doesn't take medication, a violent schizophrenic 345 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 1: doesn't take care of medication, what are you diverting him to. 346 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: He's inside this facility not taking his medication, and he's 347 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 1: violent towards the other people in the facility, then you're 348 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: going to release him. He's not taking his medication and 349 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: he's going to be violent, specifically towards other towards black people. 350 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: But this woman, Atlanta Kim, is a judge in the 351 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: La Superior Court. In case you wonder why there's so 352 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: many crazy people on the street committing so many crimes 353 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: right in front of your eyes, this is one of 354 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: the reasons. Good all right, we're coming up. 355 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM six. 356 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: Forty coming up after at three o'clock. I spent a 357 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: lot of time in the first hour on the Jimmy 358 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: Kimmel case him getting taken off the air by ABC News, 359 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: because there's after all these years in radio, broadcast, radio 360 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: and TV is a different world, and it's not the 361 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: world you think it is. The FCC at times has 362 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: had a very strong hand and it looks like we're 363 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: entering a new age there because CAFI has a broadcast 364 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: license from the federal government. Federal government determines if you 365 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: keep the broadcast license, not the owners of a station. 366 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: The owners owned the transmitter, the studios, they employed, the 367 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: people on the air and off the air, but the 368 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: license that belongs to the government. All broadcast TV and 369 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: radio stations are like that, always have been. And talk 370 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: with Drew Hayes Drew Hayes was my program director years ago. 371 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: He hired Ken and I sometime back at KBC when 372 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: it was part of Disney the radio station, and so 373 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: we worked for Disney. And we're going to talk about 374 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: it coming up after the three o'clock news. As if 375 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: things aren't difficult enough, we now have a new threat 376 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: from the new World screw worm. The screw worm it's 377 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: a fly, So if you see a fly around your house, 378 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 1: be careful. It's parasitic. Its maggots can infest living livestock, birds, pets, humans. 379 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: It's coming to California. It's been moving from Panama since 380 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. It's making its way through Central America. 381 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: As of September it was in southern Mexico. Seven hundred 382 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 1: and twenty humans have been infested. Oh I hate that word. 383 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: I don't want to be infested with anything. But the 384 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: square worm has infested seven hundred and twenty people, and 385 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: six of them have died. One hundred and eleven thousand 386 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: animals have been infested. The USDA says it's a threat 387 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: to our food supply, on our national security. And in August, 388 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: somebody traveling from El Salvador to Maryland had the screw worm, 389 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: but they haven't found it in the wild within twenty 390 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: miles of where this guy lived. And after they found it, 391 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: they found this guy was infested. The California Department of 392 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: Public Health sent out an advisory and said this New 393 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: World screwworm could arrive here from an infested traveler or animal, 394 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 1: or just from the natural travel You know, the flies 395 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: don't respect the border, Yeah, like everybody else, and I 396 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: don't think a border patrol can stop these creatures. There's 397 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: images online disgusting images of the New World screwworm, and 398 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: it shows open wounds in open wounds in cows, deer, pigs, chickens, orts, 399 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: and goats infesting a swath of the body from the 400 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: neck and head and mouth down to the belly and legs. 401 00:28:55,720 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: It eats, It eats you. In fact, the Latin species 402 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: name of the fly is called Haminovorax, loosely translates to 403 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: man eater. If you're in a rural area, you have 404 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: a higher risk of an outbreak. Do you have any 405 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: open sores or wounds, you better cover them up. You 406 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: should be doing that anyway. If you're got a compromised 407 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: immune system, you're very young, very old, you're malnourished. The 408 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: screwworm could kill you, and it can get into us 409 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: livestock and all kinds of other animals, like I mentioned birds, pets. 410 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: Good Lord. It was eradicated in nineteen sixty six, and 411 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: outside of an outbreak in Texas in seventy six, it 412 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: hasn't been around at all for decades. But that's making 413 00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: a come back, and it's going to come across the border. 414 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: All right, we come back. Drew Hayes, who's been a 415 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: radio executive program director, was my program director some years 416 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: back when we worked for Disney at KBC, and he's 417 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: got a lot to say on the Jimmy Kimmel situation, 418 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: because you really in this case, I talked a lot 419 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: about this in the first hour. 420 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 2: You should. 421 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: You have to understand from people of work in for 422 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: radio television that we've had this relationship with the government 423 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: and corporate executives are sometimes quite fearful of the government. 424 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: They always have been. But he has all his own 425 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: thoughts too. We'll talk about it coming up. Hey, you've 426 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. You can 427 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: always hear the show live on KFI AM six forty 428 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, and 429 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.