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Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Week sixteen. Four Bills Brown's hand off, the

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Speaker 2: Cook cuts it back through a hole and he's off

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Speaker 2: and cuts it back again into the secondary. Twenty five

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Speaker 3: Ten five.

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Speaker 2: James Cook is in the kitchen. What a run by

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Speaker 2: Cook forty four yards to the end zone to pass

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Speaker 2: pumps fires, It's tipped to the air and intercepted by

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Speaker 2: Jordan Poyer who's coming the other way, and he's tackled

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Speaker 2: at the thirty nine yard line. All the Bills get

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Speaker 2: a huge break there off the pass deflection motion right

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Speaker 2: to left from Shakir, handoff to Johnson and he races

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Speaker 2: into the end zone for an easy two yard touchdown

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Speaker 2: run Alan under center foot. The loan set back motion

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Speaker 2: from Shaver's right to left, another handoff to Cook, bends

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Speaker 2: it back reaching for the end zone and he's got

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Speaker 2: it for the touchdown. James Cook extends the arm to

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Speaker 2: the goal line and for the second time this afternoon,

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Speaker 2: the Cook is in the kitchen back to pass, looking

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Speaker 2: deep and the passes batted out of the air and

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Speaker 2: it's intercepted picked off by day Kwan Jones. Joey Bosa

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Speaker 2: batted the pass up in the air and for the

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Speaker 2: second time, a deflection goes for an interception for Buffalo

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Speaker 2: second and goal from the one. Here's the snap. It

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Speaker 2: goes to the up man and he's in for a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: I believe it was the tight end Harold Fannin who

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Speaker 2: got over the goal line and in for the score.

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Speaker 2: Five man rush pocket collapsing, Rousseau at pursuit and he

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Speaker 2: drops him for a huge sack. Greg Russu with a

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Speaker 2: gigantic play to force a turnover on downs, Bill sending

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Speaker 2: blitz and they've got him wrapped up and dropped for

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Speaker 2: a sack. Greg Russo and Jordan Poyer meet at the

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Speaker 2: quarterback for the takedown. Well, it certainly wasn't easy, but

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Speaker 2: the Bills escaped with a twenty three to twenty victory

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Speaker 2: here in Cleveland to improve to eleven and four on

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Speaker 2: the season and stay right where they are holding serve

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Speaker 2: in the AFC Wild Card Race. That is your Game

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Speaker 2: Sign up to donate at connectlife dot org. Yeah, they

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Speaker 2: had to sweat out another one, but they managed to

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Speaker 2: do it twenty three twenty hanging on by their fingernails

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Speaker 2: in the second half and relying pretty much on the

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Speaker 2: defense to close this game out, and they did, to

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Speaker 2: their credit. They weren't perfect on defense. I'm sure we'll

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Speaker 2: talk today about how tackling was again an issue. Run

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Speaker 2: defense was an issue. Setting the edge was an issue.

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Speaker 2: But for the second straight week, when the defense absolutely

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Speaker 2: positively had to have a play they answered. They delivered,

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Speaker 2: and you can't knock them for that. They closed out

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Speaker 2: this game yesterday.

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Speaker 3: They really did. They slammed the door at a time

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Speaker 3: when you thought they weren't going to be able to

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Speaker 3: do it. Early in the game, their tackling was suspect.

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Speaker 3: I thought the Browns did a really good job early

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Speaker 3: where they sent five guys and they tried to confuse

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Speaker 3: schudor Sanders probably would have accept that. I think either

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Speaker 3: Sanders checked into it or they had the perfect play call.

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Speaker 3: And I think it was Sanders checked into a screen

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Speaker 3: a couple of occasions, and I think it scared Bob

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Speaker 3: Babbitt or Sean mcnermery. Whoever's calling the defensive plays, I

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Speaker 3: think it scared him off calling too many more pressure

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Speaker 3: packages because the Browns had a quick answer and they

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Speaker 3: universal in the NFL. You get nicked by a certain

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Speaker 3: very often, if at all. So it was late in

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Speaker 3: the game where the Bills finally got some pressure on

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Speaker 3: two turnovers in the first half were or the turnover

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Speaker 3: in the first half was absolutely critical, the tipped interception

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Speaker 3: the Daikwon Jones interception. But yeah, it was just gonna

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Speaker 3: be one of those games. And as easy as it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, tack was a problem for this team.

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Speaker 2: It kind of reared its ugly head again after they

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Speaker 2: But Jordan Poyer made a couple of huge plays, including

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Speaker 2: And Cole Bishop made an unbelievable open field tackle on

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Speaker 2: don't know if Max Harriston might have made that play,

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Speaker 2: Bill's making plays that they absolutely have to make to

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Speaker 3: That was the exact play of the pressure that they

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Speaker 3: it was a big play, but it didn't score. But

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Speaker 3: that's the kind of play that scares defensive coordinators off

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Speaker 3: call and that's pressure package again, and they did it.

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Speaker 3: They got him a couple of times, and the Browns

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Speaker 3: I think that came back to haunt them. They didn't

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Speaker 3: certainly the Bill's offense lost big time the time of

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Speaker 3: possession battle. You could tell, you could feel it. The

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Speaker 3: You could feel it in this game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, first half they made it look easy on offense.

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Speaker 2: They jump out to a twenty to ten lead, they

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Speaker 2: And I don't want to say that the Bills offense

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Speaker 3: The thing that got me. You had a drop from

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Speaker 3: All three of those dropped. Two of them were big plays,

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Speaker 2: And after the game, Josh admitted he missed Shakir on

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Speaker 3: He overshot, He overshot, missed a throw too. So it

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Speaker 3: was just a little sloppy. And when you get like that,

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Speaker 3: Dawson never mentioned and I thought, oh, I could tell, well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just late in the year and the

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Speaker 3: the ball coming right down the link of that shadow. Dawson,

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Speaker 2: Kind of the Otherwise, that's a more comfortable victory. It's

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, And you could take a deep breath there,

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Speaker 2: improve to eleven and four on the season. And look

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'll say this, one of the things that

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Speaker 2: But that second on the turnover on downs, I mean

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Speaker 2: at two and a half. Unbelievable defensive performance at the

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Speaker 2: end of the game. James Cook is now the NFL

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Speaker 2: rushing leader, though Jonathan Taylor does play tonight. Cook had

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Speaker 2: from scrimmage. Bills are eleven and one when Cook has

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Speaker 2: one hundred or more total yards from scrimmage. That was

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Speaker 2: also the Bill's first victory when not reaching twenty five

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Speaker 2: points scored. They had previously been zero to four in

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Speaker 3: Touchdown they would have had it, they had it.

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Speaker 2: How about that?

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Speaker 2: Let's go around the NFL presented by Kalida Health, the

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Speaker 2: official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills. Buffalo's next opponent,

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Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Eagles, clinch the NFC East for the second

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Speaker 3: you can say. And it's more of the same here.

437
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Speaker 3: And it's taking care of the football, Like oh my wow,

438
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Speaker 3: Derrick Henry and Derrick Henry coughing it up again last night.

439
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 2: They're giving out the ball, you know, like.

440
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 3: Holy And it wasn't just Derrick Henry, it was you know.

441
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 2: Zay Flowers has more fumbles this year than receiving touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how about that.

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Speaker 2: That's your number one receiver. He's got more fumbles than

444
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Speaker 2: receiving touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: Wow, and I get. I mean they're doing it to

446
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 3: them so they can feel good about their talent level

447
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 3: because they are doing it to themselves. And here as

448
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 3: they're trying to go in, you know, they just he

449
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 3: gets chopped out from behind. It's over.

450
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the game.

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Speaker 3: Game over. So then down four points, minute fifty left,

452
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 3: forty eight left, complete a pass, moving the football, it's over.

453
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Speaker 3: And it was because of the turnof And.

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Speaker 2: That's the difference between a Patriots team coached by Mike

455
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 2: Rabel and the Ravens. The Patriots sweat the details. Man,

456
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 2: they are buttoned up. They rare we set it going

457
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 2: into the game last week. They rarely beat themselves, that's right, rarely.

458
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Speaker 3: You really got to play mistake free football against them.

459
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 3: And that's why they're that's why they're in the in

460
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 3: the mix for the one seed.

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Speaker 2: I mean, their their last the Patriots last two losses,

462
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Speaker 2: they have one giveaway against the Bills, the trudevious white

463
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Speaker 2: eyn t which was essentially an arm punt, right, and

464
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Speaker 2: then their last loss before that was to the Steelers

465
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Speaker 2: when they turned it over five times.

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Speaker 3: They lost by three or something like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was it was a one score game. I

468
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 2: know that, but those are their last two losses because

469
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 2: they don't beat themselves. I mean, I don't like the

470
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 2: Patriots anymore than any other Bills fan. Yeah, but you

471
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Speaker 2: got to give it up to them for playing consist

472
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 2: didn't mistake free football for the most part.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, New England, that was clear. Back in Week three

474
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 3: against New England, they lost by a touchdown after turning

475
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Speaker 3: it over five times, so they scored fourteen points. That's yeah,

476
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 3: that's the Patriots. M and I said it before, and

477
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 3: this is something that comes back to me all the time.

478
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 3: The old coach for the Giants and the Patriots and

479
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 3: the Jets, Bill Parcells said, man, if you can just

480
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,239
Speaker 3: hang tough and not make mistakes, the other team will

481
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 3: give it to you a lot of times. And the

482
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 3: Patriots played by that philosophy and or Mike Vrabel. They

483
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,719
Speaker 3: play along and like last night, they are in a

484
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 3: dog fight with the Baltimore Ravens, and the Ravens just

485
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 3: give it to him. They just turn it over on

486
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Speaker 3: in key moments.

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Speaker 2: And look they didn't have another one on the Mark Andrews.

488
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Speaker 3: That's right, lateral, that's right.

489
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 2: He lateraled it forward, so it negated the turnover there

490
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 2: because he latered it forward right to a Patriots defender.

491
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 2: I mean, even Mike Turrico was incredulous. He's like, what

492
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Speaker 2: was he doing? That's just wow, you can't if. Yeah,

493
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 2: so that's a team short circuits. They really do.

494
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 3: It's a thing and social media. Social media is a

495
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 3: wash in graphics and people talking about the Ravens puking

496
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 3: up the lead lad in games. It happens a lot,

497
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 3: a little too often. They're the team in the league

498
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 3: who has a reputation for doing that, and it's it

499
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 3: reared its ugly head last night. That characteristic. We saw

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Speaker 3: it in Week one here against the Bills. We've seen

501
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 3: it in years past, and you know, obviously now they're

502
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 3: starting to point the finger at John Harbaugh. It's something

503
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 3: about his coaching that does it. It's a lot of

504
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 3: fourth quarter block I don't know, there's a lot of

505
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 3: fourth quarter blow ups. So, yeah, the the Ravens are

506
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 3: really licking their wounds today because they they took it

507
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 3: on the chin.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: We'll quickly get through the rest of the NFL because

510
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: we got to take a break. Houston Texans escape a

511
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 2: tight game with the two win Las Vegas Raiders. They

512
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 2: went at home twenty three to twenty one to stay

513
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 2: a game back of The Chargers beat the Cowboys thirty

514
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,719
Speaker 2: four to seventeen. They stay ahead of Buffalo on tiebreaker. Chargers,

515
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 2: as we said, have now won seven of their last

516
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Speaker 2: eight Jacksonville with the most impressive win on Sunday, handling

517
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 2: the Broncos with ease. In Denver, handing Sean Payton's club

518
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 2: their first home loss of the season thirty four to twenty,

519
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 2: they won comfortably. Steelers improved to nine and six with

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00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 2: a road win at Detroit, which ended on a controversial

521
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 2: call of offensive pass interference negating a game winning hook

522
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 2: and ladder from Amana Saint Brown to Jared Goff for

523
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 2: a touchdown. Pittsburgh escapes twenty nine to twenty four. DK

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00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 2: Metcalf could face disciplinary action after a minor altercation with

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00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 2: a fan during the game yesterday. Fan is apparently someone

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00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 2: who has insulted Metcalf before Metcalf reported him to security

527
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 2: at a game last season. Fan apparently insulted his mother

528
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 2: and allegedly used a racial slur, which prompted Metcalf to

529
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 2: grab the fan by the shirt collar and take a

530
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 2: swing at him. The NFL is reviewing the incident, and

531
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Speaker 2: green Bay quarterback Jordan Love inconcussion protocol. His backup, Molik

532
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 2: will Us, has a shoulder injury on his throwing shoulder.

533
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Speaker 2: Packers hosts the Ravens on Saturday night this week, and

534
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: we'll see if Lamar plays. Two. Third string quarterback for

535
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 2: the Packers is Clayton Tune who is on Green Bay's

536
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 2: practice squad. Snoop Huntley is Baltimore's backup. Gotta take a

537
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 2: break here, but we are taking your biggest takeaways from

538
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 2: Buffalo's three point win over Cleveland yesterday to improve to

539
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 2: eleven and four on the season, their fourth straight victory.

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00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 2: They are now fifteen and one in their last sixteen

541
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Speaker 2: December games. You let us know your take on the

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00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 2: victory at eight oh three, oh five fifty one eight

543
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 2: eight eight five fifty two, five fifty Those are the

544
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: numbers to get on board as we take your phone

545
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 2: calls next here on a Buffalo victory Monday on One

546
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 2: Bill's Live, Sanders in the shotgun back to pass pumps fires.

547
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 2: It's tipped in the air and intercepted by Jordan Poyer

548
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 2: who's coming the other way and he's tackled at the

549
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: thirty nine yard line. Oh, the Bills get a huge

550
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: break there off the pass deflection. Your Player of the

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Speaker 2: Game is presented by high Mark Blue Cross Blue Shield.

552
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 2: High Mark is the official health plan of the Buffalo

553
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 2: Bills because life Jordan Poyer turning back the clock yesterday

554
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Speaker 2: with a team leading eleven tackles, one for loss, an interception,

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00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 2: half a sack, and a pass breakup, also had what

556
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 2: could have been a touchdown saving tackle along the brown

557
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 2: sideline in this game too, So heck of a game

558
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 2: by Poyer. Unfortunately, he left with an injury after he

559
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 2: had that half sack with Rousseau and did not return.

560
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Speaker 2: So we'll find out more on the status of his

561
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 2: injury later this afternoon when head coach Sean McDermott addresses

562
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Speaker 2: the media.

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Speaker 3: Molona played played really well in this game. He turned

564
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 3: back the clock too, and so did Tredavious White. I mean,

565
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Speaker 3: we always and it's a thing, let's face it, Bills

566
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Speaker 3: fans talk about it every time it happens. They back,

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00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 3: you know, Shack, they bring back Jordan Phillips, Jordan Phillips,

568
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 3: big up Boogie basham aj Klein. Back in the day,

569
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,959
Speaker 3: they bring all these guys back. And the reason they

570
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 3: do that is games like this. You know they they

571
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 3: earn it, right, I mean you think, well.

572
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: You know some well they trust point, they trust them.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna bring back Matt. Matt Malone will be back

574
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 3: in the building under a new contract. Because somebody will

575
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 3: get he'll go out, he'll flame out some other place

576
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 3: because it won't be the same environment, won't be the

577
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 3: same scheme, whatever, whatever. Milana will be back on another contract.

578
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 3: Same thing. Tredavious White leaves goes away for you, comes back,

579
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Speaker 3: Poyer goes away, comes back. Michah It's got Micah Hyde.

580
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 3: Same thing last year. These guys they earned something within

581
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 3: this building when they have games like they did yesterday

582
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 3: where they say, you know what, when you need it,

583
00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 3: the guy's gonna have it. It's experience, it's savvy knowledge.

584
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 3: It's how smart these guys are. It leads to plays.

585
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 3: And when you're running a defense like the Bills are

586
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 3: that's been gutted by injuries at the top, like you know,

587
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 3: your best two pass rushers haven't played in two and

588
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 3: a half months and you're kind of putting it together

589
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 3: with duct tape, spit and Staples. You're trying to figure

590
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 3: it out. You're talking in the games like yesterday, you're

591
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 3: talking on defense. Just give us like five plays over

592
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 3: the course of the sixty five plays that the Browns have.

593
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 3: Give five. Just play hard and give us five special plays.

594
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 3: A tipped interception it happens twice, a tackle for loss.

595
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 3: Get us a sack on a play we needed when

596
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 3: we send a pressure, get it. That's all they need

597
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 3: in most of these games, not all of them, but

598
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Speaker 3: in game like yesterday, Yeah, give us like three plays,

599
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 3: give us three or four plays, and they end up

600
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 3: giving you a half dozen because of these old guys

601
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 3: are like, yeah, I got you know, I'm gonna I

602
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 3: see that. I've seen this before. I'm gonna get it.

603
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 3: Cole Bishop sees a play for the second time and

604
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 3: he's all over it, all over it. So that's why

605
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 3: these guys keep turning up on the roster after they

606
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 3: disappear for a minute and come back, because you know,

607
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 3: you know they're gonna give you something when you really

608
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 3: need it.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 3: You know, all these guys are on the team, now,

611
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 3: that's great. You know they're gonna get retreaded at some

612
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 3: point down the all. How are you just thinking about that?

613
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 3: Trade's gonna leave and come back? You know, Rousseau, he's

614
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 3: gonna run his course, he's gonna play out this contract.

615
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 3: He's gonna leave, He's gonna go someplace for you, he's

616
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 3: gonna come back. Okay, same thing. Epanessa's gonna disappear, go someplace,

617
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 3: never play and come back. You know what I mean,

618
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 3: I can just see it. I don't know if it's

619
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Speaker 3: gonna happen. I'm just saying it just feels like that,

620
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 3: right he's got You know, they may retire and never

621
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Speaker 3: come back, but it just feels like. That's why that happens.

622
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 3: That's why Bean and mcderry but put their heads together.

623
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Speaker 3: You know what, Boogie Basham may have a little something something.

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00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: You know, Well, that guy hasn't been back, right, that's why.

625
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,959
Speaker 3: That's why. You know what, That's why you know aj Klein,

626
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 3: you know what, call him, see what he's doing. It's crazy.

627
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 2: Let's go to the phone.

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Speaker 3: These are the games that get that. These are the

629
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Speaker 3: game why they do it.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, okay, I'm telling you, let's go to

631
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Speaker 2: the phones. At eight oh three oh five point fifty one,

632
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 2: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty the number

633
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Speaker 2: to get on board. Got some open lines for you there,

634
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 2: but we're gonna lead off with Bill in Texas. What

635
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:31,439
Speaker 2: do you got for us? Bill?

636
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Speaker 5: Hey, gentlemen, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my call.

637
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 2: Sure.

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00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 5: My two takeaways. One is, if we play anything like

639
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 5: that in the playoffs were cooked. We We're not going

640
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 5: to go anywhere. We have got to come out and

641
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 5: these lower level teams we keep playing down to the competition.

642
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 5: I don't see it happening unless we can get somebody

643
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 5: in there who can get everybody fired up. Second, I'm

644
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 5: moreorried about Buffalo in the future. If you look at

645
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 5: all these quarterbacks that are getting paid this big money,

646
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 5: most of them are having problems because they can't afford

647
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 5: the players to go with the quarterback. They can't afford,

648
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 5: like us, the defensive line that we need. We can't

649
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 5: afford a receiver that we need. We can't afford a

650
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 5: linebacker that we need in the future. With all the

651
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 5: money going to that one player, it's hard to keep people.

652
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 5: You have to hit on the draft every year, and

653
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 5: that's hard to do because, like he said, just said,

654
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 5: when these young guys decide to lead. They're going to

655
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 5: get more money. That's why they leave, and it's going

656
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 5: to be hard to keep a team together. And I'll

657
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 5: hang up and thank you for taking my call.

658
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 3: Yes, that's a good call.

659
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 2: Bill.

660
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 3: I'll say this, you're right, And I think it's a

661
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 3: common problem around the league. You get a quarterback like

662
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 3: the shape that the Dolphins are in, particularly when the

663
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 3: quarterback doesn't work out. Now, if the quarterback works out,

664
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 3: the reason you pay him is because that guy can

665
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 3: keep you in the plasts. You can put plaster in

666
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 3: fresh paint on any flaws that you have and make

667
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 3: it look great. Right, And I'll say this about the

668
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 3: Bills roster. The only problem Bills had this year was

669
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 3: that the wrong hand, the wrong guys got hurt. And

670
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 3: I think around the league you can say that there

671
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 3: are teams out there that can put championship and the

672
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 3: Bills are one of them. You put a championship roster together.

673
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 3: The problem is it's shallow, and once you get down

674
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,959
Speaker 3: and you start showing the guys off at the top

675
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 3: of the roster the backup, there's a drop off, and

676
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 3: particularly when it happens on one side of the ball

677
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 3: in one position, go like it did on this defensive

678
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 3: line this year, and it looked like it was going

679
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 3: to be that way at corner this year. But now

680
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 3: with Trey Benford, and you saw what happened when Benford

681
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:52,919
Speaker 3: goes out. When Trey Benford and and Max, you got

682
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 3: some guys that can play. You got some guys that

683
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 3: can play. But when you start getting down into the injuries,

684
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 3: I think teams can put together even with an expensive quarterback,

685
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 3: you can put together a really good roster that can

686
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 3: go and win a lot of games and get to

687
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 3: the playoffs and have a shot at the whole shooting match.

688
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 3: But if you start losing elite players from around the

689
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 3: other parts of the roster, like a corner, like a

690
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 3: pass rusher at the money spots, yeah, you're gonna struggle.

691
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 3: And that's where it happens. It's not so much that

692
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 3: you can't put a roster together. This can't be a

693
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 3: deep enough roster, and then you're cooked. And that's you know,

694
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 3: that's hard to do.

695
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 2: Right now, the Bills are projected to be four point

696
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 2: two million dollars under the cap next year. Now that's

697
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 2: before they do any restructuring or get out from under

698
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: some contracts that are not getting the value that they

699
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 2: thought they would get.

700
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 3: So that's way better than they were at this time

701
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 3: last year, Am I right?

702
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 2: And we'll see if there's any carryover money, although I.

703
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 3: Think it's they were going to be like twenty million

704
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 3: over last year.

705
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're finally getting rid of some dead money, but

706
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 2: they're gonna have to get out from some other contracts

707
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: as well to create more space in Tonawanda. We go.

708
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 2: What's up? John?

709
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 6: Hi, guys, thanks for taking my call. I appreciate it.

710
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 6: Merry Christmas. So I am a frustrated Bills fan and

711
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 6: I really want your opinion about this. But I'll set

712
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 6: it up real quick. So you know, we've we've been

713
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 6: entertained for the last seven years, the Josh Allen here

714
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 6: I call it, but they repeatedly find ways to blow

715
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 6: it in the playoffs. So I just would like to

716
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 6: know what you think is the element that's required to

717
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 6: get this team past the hump, because, in my personal opinion,

718
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 6: for what it's worth, I don't I see Josh as

719
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 6: one of those quarterbacks that may never make it to

720
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 6: the playoffs. In a Bill's jersey, he could eventually decide, well,

721
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 6: I'm gonna try somewhere else and end up in the

722
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 6: super Bowl, and it would be a travesty. And so

723
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 6: I don't know what it is coaching the front office

724
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 6: the team. I don't I don't count injuries as a reason.

725
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 6: I think that's an escape. So I really want your

726
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 6: opinion on what you guys think is going to get

727
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 6: us over the hump, because I I don't know anymore.

728
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 3: I really don't well the reason. I'll tell you this.

729
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 6: Hung up and listen.

730
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, John, thanks for the call. And here's

731
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 3: here's the reason you don't know, because there is no

732
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 3: magic elixir that and it's a different answer last year

733
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 3: when they got jobbed on a fourth down spot on

734
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 3: a quarterback sneak and a pass that went off your

735
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 3: most sure handed receiver's face mask and a desperation throw

736
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 3: on fourth down that should have would have could have

737
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 3: been caught. To the year before that, when they and

738
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 3: I can't even remember what happened in twenty three.

739
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 2: Uh, Stefan Diggs drops it deep.

740
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 3: If Stefan Diggs drops a pass over the shoulder throw

741
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 3: deep on Kansas City, there is no And people don't

742
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 3: agree with Fans don't agree with me. They think what

743
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 3: they think. There is no magic elixa that's gonna put

744
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 3: the Bills over the hump. All you gotta do is

745
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 3: play well on that day. I say it a million times.

746
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 3: Nobody believes me. Play well on that day.

747
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 2: They haven't played well. Defensively, play well.

748
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 3: Make make the three plays you made against Cleveland, against

749
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 3: the Denver Broncos in the AFC Championship, or the Chargers

750
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 3: in the AFC Championship. Make those plays on that day.

751
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 3: You can do it. You got the guys, you've sewn,

752
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 3: you can do it. Just make the plays on that day.

753
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 3: And you can say too that the Bills made those

754
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 3: plays and they got a chance to make him. Josh

755
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 3: has made those plays. And one thing, you know, Kinkaid,

756
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 3: it goes off his face mask when he's diving on

757
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 3: the ground and can't pull it in. Steph Diggs, it

758
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 3: goes through his arms. On a play on the Kansas

759
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 3: City Chiefs. The officials, both of them are giving him

760
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 3: the first down, and then for some other reason they

761
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 3: don't give him the first down and the fourth down

762
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 3: quarterback sneak go down the list. It's there is no

763
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 3: they've been I say it again, they've been good. Enough

764
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 3: for six years to go to and win the Super Bowl.

765
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 3: All you gotta do is play well on your last

766
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 3: game of the season, so it won't be your last

767
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 3: game of the season, just play well on that day.

768
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 2: Offensively and scoring wise, you can argue for the most

769
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: part they have played well enough to win games. Defensively

770
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 2: is where they have come up short in recent years

771
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 2: in the postseason they've been unable to stop the opponent.

772
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 2: Now you are playing some of the best offenses and

773
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 2: some of the best defenses in the postseason, so you're

774
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 2: gonna play better level of competition. But to Steve's point,

775
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 2: that's why you have to play at your absolute best

776
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 2: in the postseason every single time you lace him up,

777
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 2: because if you don't, another very good team, if they

778
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 2: play their best, is going to beat you. And that's

779
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 2: just how it has unfolded for the Bills each of

780
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 2: the last several years in the postseason. We got to

781
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 2: take a break here, more of your phone calls when

782
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797
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 2: Fame coach Paul Brown. He now has ninety eight wins

798
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 2: in his first nine seasons as head coach, passing Paul

799
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 2: Brown who had ninety seven. So kind of ironic that

800
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 2: it happened against the Cleveland Browns, the team that Paul

801
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 2: Brown found it. I thought that was an interesting note

802
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Speaker 2: to mention from yesterday. Let's get back to the phones

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Speaker 2: though at eight oh three oh five fifty one eight

804
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 2: eight eight five fifty two five fifty for your biggest

805
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 2: takeaways from yesterday's win over the Browns and to Kevin

806
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 2: n Hamburg, what's up? Kevin?

807
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 7: Hey, guys, how you doing? Thanks for taking my call,

808
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 7: and if I don't get a test to wish you

809
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 7: many Christmas to you and your bamilely Marin Christmas to

810
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:48,280
Speaker 7: you and your bamily.

811
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Speaker 2: Yeah, tell you as well. Kevin. Thank you.

812
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Speaker 7: Okay, obviously you want to win. Obviously you gut it

813
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 7: out or de bench showed up when it had to.

814
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 7: But I mean this week's game next week against the Eagles,

815
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 7: the second team that was in the Super Bowl, because

816
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 7: we already beat the one team of lost last in November.

817
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 7: I think it's gonna determine how we possibly could look

818
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 7: going into the playoffs, even though it's one more week

819
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,720
Speaker 7: with the Jets. I think this one because the Eagles,

820
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,959
Speaker 7: even though their offense isn't juice like it was last year,

821
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 7: their defense is still pretty phenomenal. And with our inconsistencies

822
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 7: like we had in that third and fourth quarter which

823
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 7: almost caused the Browns to come back and make our

824
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 7: Christmas not very happy beat grinches, I think the Eagle

825
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 7: game is really gonna determine how we possibly could go.

826
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 7: And now Barkley's got a new juice to him, even

827
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 7: though it was against the stinky Commanders, He's gonna be

828
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 7: I think this game is really gonna determine even more

829
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 7: how he could possibly look in the playoffs, way more

830
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 7: than the Chiefs win in after Halloween.

831
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 3: Do you think that you think that's the measuring stick.

832
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 7: Yes, even more than that, because look at the Chiefs.

833
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 7: We beat that and I mentally the injury they fell apart,

834
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,240
Speaker 7: but the Eagles are still pretty good. And now bark

835
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 7: of all times to get choose the second win, if

836
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 7: you want to call it a second win. Second choose

837
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 7: He's gonna be coming in and he's gonna look at

838
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 7: our defense and be like, we might have a chance

839
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 7: to get me back to somewhat way I was last year.

840
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean I get what you're saying, Kevin.

841
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 2: I think the the Eagles have been struggling with a

842
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 2: hunger problem. They won the Super Bowl last year, and

843
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 2: the guy next to me can probably talk about how

844
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 2: hard it is to get back there the next year

845
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 2: better than anybody. But it takes a lot of investment,

846
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 2: a lot of physical and mental constitution to summon up

847
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 2: the energy to climb the mountain again, especially after you

848
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 2: want it. There's a level of satisfaction in winning a

849
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 2: championship that is hard to replicate the next year. That's

850
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 2: why we rarely see repeat champions in this league. I

851
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 2: think they've got a motivation problem. That's why they they

852
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 2: struggle sometimes to put up quality performances. But Kevin, you

853
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 2: make a good point. They Saquon Barkley has gotten back

854
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 2: on track. They've leaned on him more with the problems

855
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,919
Speaker 2: that they've had in their own passing game of late,

856
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 2: and he's run well the last few games against some

857
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 2: lesser than run defenses. Guess what, the Bills are a

858
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 2: lesser than run defense. So yeah, I would expect them

859
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 2: to lean on him again this week. And but I'm

860
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 2: wondering what the motivation level is gonna be for the Eagle, Steve,

861
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 2: because they just won the division. They punched their ticket

862
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 2: to the playoffs, so they know they're going there. They're

863
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: gonna put it on the control the rest of the

864
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 2: way here.

865
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 3: They're not gonna catch Seattle for the one seed, right

866
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 3: Seattle's got three losses, Philly's got five. They you know,

867
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 3: they probably are not gonna win the one seed and

868
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 3: the two who can two seed, three seed? I mean

869
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 3: maybe it makes a difference. But you don't know how

870
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 3: the Rams or San Francisco are gonna finish the Green

871
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 3: Bay Pack. You don't know who you're gonna play. You

872
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 3: have no control over it.

873
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 2: But they know they're playing their first playoff game at home.

874
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 3: They're playing their first playoff game at home. Let the

875
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 3: chips fall where they mate. Brownie's right, and he said

876
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 3: it earlier today on on g R as well. The

877
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 3: playoffs are kind of set, and you get these teams,

878
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 3: particularly a team like Philly who has been in the

879
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 3: playoffs or what at least they were out like two

880
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 3: years ago? Were they out? Were they in?

881
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had a bunch of injuries.

882
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 3: They got a lot of guys that know what it's like,

883
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 3: and they're getting they want to get to games that

884
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:44,439
Speaker 3: are meaningful now, Carolina, they're loving life. Man. They can't wait.

885
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 3: Let's go, let's get the seat, let's try and fix

886
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 3: our you know team, Let's get in there. And they

887
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 3: haven't clinched yet. They haven't clinched yet. The Rams of

888
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 3: San Francisco and green Bay. They've all got to play

889
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 3: hard and they're energetic and all of that. But Philly,

890
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, they're like, let's just get let's

891
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 3: get the give me a game that's gonna mean something.

892
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 3: Let me advance a little bit, right. I think the

893
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 3: Bills are suffering from a little bit of that. When

894
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 3: you go down and play a team in Cleveland that's

895
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 3: got three wins on the years, like, you know, it

896
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 3: would change things a little bit. Had Baltimore hung on

897
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 3: and beat New England last night, that might give the

898
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 3: Bills a little bit of a juice. But this is

899
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 3: a game where these two teams, Yeah, you could. You

900
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,240
Speaker 3: can make a case. There's an argument you made these teams.

901
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 3: These two teams may meet in the Super Bowl. I

902
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 3: get it, the Bills in the Philadelphia Eagles. You could.

903
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 3: There's you don't even have to jump through mental hoops

904
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 3: to make it happen. Any one of these seven teams

905
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 3: in the playoffs for the AFC could come up with

906
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 3: a conversation to meet any of the seven teams in

907
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 3: the NFC, but not for a couple of weeks.

908
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 2: Right now.

909
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 3: You just gotta wait. Now, you gotta play these games.

910
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 3: I talk about it all the time, and I don't

911
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 3: know if anybody listens to me. And I may sound

912
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 3: like a broken record, man, I'm telling you it's not.

913
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 3: I mean, you got Lamar Jackson getting nied in the

914
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 3: back last night. He says, I'm pulling ripcord. I'm not.

915
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 3: I'm not playing anymore. I'm done. You know, these teams,

916
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 3: and then the Bills go down to Cleveland's and they

917
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 3: jump up, get three touchdowns like it's nothing, and it's like,

918
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 3: you know what, let's just get out of here, and

919
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 3: it almost gets away from them. You know, Philly de Philly,

920
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 3: the same, the same thing, man.

921
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 2: Philly Texans against the Raiders.

922
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 3: The Texans have the Raiders at home and almost blow

923
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 3: that game. Uh to the Raiders.

924
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 2: Who won two games this year. Just have the worst

925
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 2: off you can.

926
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 3: Tell, man, these games just reek of Just let me

927
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 3: play in a playoffs.

928
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 2: Just get me to a game regular season fatigue, Yeah,

929
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 2: just just give me the playoffs, right, Not that that's okay,

930
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 2: but we've seen it happen. It's human nature.

931
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 3: It seems like it's rampant in the league. You look

932
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 3: around these teams, and it's not because it's not every game,

933
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 3: Because some of these teams have some games that are

934
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 3: really meaningful coming down the stretch, but some of them

935
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 3: are like yeah, yeah, just get me, get me to

936
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 3: his tournament.

937
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here when we come back, Our

938
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 2: number two will begin with the Maddie Awards. Bill's team

939
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 2: reporter Matti lab joins us to hand out the hardware

940
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 2: when we return here. On a Buffalo Victory Monday, on

941
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 2: One Bill's Live presented by Collide Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Raiding.

942
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: The One Bill's Live presented by Calllida Health.

943
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,439
Speaker 2: Our number two on a Buffalo Victory Monday, Chris Brown,

944
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker and joined in studio now by Bill's Team

945
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 2: reporter Maddy lab As. It is time once again after

946
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 2: a victory for the Maddie Awards, which are presented as

947
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 2: always by Energy Mark, the official energy supplier to the

948
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills. Good afternoon, Maddie.

949
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 8: Four straight weeks in a row, we've tied our record

950
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 8: to start the season. Can we make it a couple

951
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,240
Speaker 8: more weeks heading into the playoffs.

952
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 3: I've never everybody's like this is such a whole hum win.

953
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 3: You have won by three points over a bad team,

954
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 3: as like you know, It is a low energy Monday

955
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 3: for a victory, you know it.

956
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 2: A little bit, a little bit, I'll give that to you.

957
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 3: There's a little downer, you know.

958
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 2: Well, I mean in fairness. In fairness, in comparison to

959
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 2: the last two electric come from behind victory, it's not.

960
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 8: Really You get conditioned to think one way and then

961
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 8: that's just what you want, even.

962
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 3: Though you want a completely get the irony.

963
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 8: Now, it's like, well, what about the second half?

964
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 3: What about the second half effort?

965
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 2: The iron The irony is everybody was demanding faster start started,

966
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 2: and then they by their fingernails at the end, and

967
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 2: you know it has a totally different vibe. But whatever.

968
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,720
Speaker 2: In any event, we will begin with the Chef's Special

969
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 2: Award Man.

970
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 8: James Cook helped Cook up another delicious win for the Bills.

971
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 8: He was hot off the bat, saw the field well

972
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 8: against a top five defensive line. That forty four yard

973
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 8: rushing touchdown that Cook had on the first drive, that

974
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 8: first cut showed off so much confidence. He was running outside,

975
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 8: then cuts back inside to what looks like a lot

976
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 8: of traffic. But no Cook knew the hole was going

977
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 8: to open at the perfect time. Rushes in for the

978
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:07,280
Speaker 8: touchdown finishes with one seventeen on the day. Don't look now,

979
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 8: but James Cook leads the NFL with one thousand and

980
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 8: five hundred and thirty two rushing yards. It's the most

981
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,720
Speaker 8: by a bill since OJ Simpson went over eighteen hundred

982
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 8: and nineteen seventy five. This dude is having a career year.

983
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 8: And Josh Allen said, look, our offense, it runs through

984
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 8: James Cook.

985
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. And you know, Steve and I just did a

986
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 2: podcast last week talking about his candidacy for Offensive Player

987
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 2: of the Year. I don't think he's gotten enough notoriety

988
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 2: to be part of the small group of players in

989
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 2: that company. I guess from what I've seen, the best

990
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 2: odds are actually for Jackson Smith and Jigba the receiver

991
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 2: yep from Seattle, who's had a fantastic season. I'm not

992
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 2: going to debate that for a second. I just find

993
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 2: it hard for Offensive Player of the Year to go

994
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 2: to a receiver unless they are far and away better

995
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 2: than everybody else. And I know he's well, yeah, yeah, yeah,

996
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 2: or you know, he's flirting with two thousand yards something

997
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 2: like that. Bjon Robinson's got two thousand yards total from

998
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 2: scrimmage he went over that yesterday, but he's playing for

999
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 2: a team that's got like four wins, So I don't know.

1000
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 2: To me, I think it should be Cook Tailor and

1001
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 2: maybe Jackson Smith and Jigbit those are your candidates. I

1002
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 2: think those should be the top three candidates.

1003
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:32,240
Speaker 3: And it's and James Cook's game yesterday is exactly a

1004
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 3: microcosm of what we've been talking about with the team.

1005
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 3: He had one hundred yards in the first half and

1006
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 3: ended with one seventeen. I mean, they just they just

1007
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 3: turned the water off.

1008
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, he said it's good enough, this is

1009
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: good enough to.

1010
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 3: Really it really seemed that way, and certainly the scoreboard

1011
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 3: told you that it was a close game at the end,

1012
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 3: you know, when it got down like twenty three seventeen

1013
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 3: kind of thing. But when you look on the field,

1014
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know, I don't know. I

1015
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 3: never felt threatened. I knew this, and I knew one

1016
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 3: and I knew one play was gonna get it. But

1017
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 3: they're getting the third and eight, third, nine and fourth down.

1018
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:12,879
Speaker 2: I'm like, eh, I just get nervous at the end

1019
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 2: of those games when the Bills are not executing on

1020
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 2: opportunities that are there like Josh Missus Shakir on the

1021
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 2: open over route. You know, Knox drops the pass and

1022
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 2: the end zone. Cooks drops a pass when he's you

1023
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 2: know what's right in his hands. That's gonna get good nervous.

1024
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 2: When you miss on multiple opportunities like that, sometimes it

1025
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 2: bites you in the rear end.

1026
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,479
Speaker 3: Cooks would have been a good not a great catch,

1027
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 3: a good catch. You expect him to catch that, and

1028
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 3: it just he just didn't.

1029
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 2: So all right.

1030
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 8: The Flu Game Award, Michael Jordan has his Flu game

1031
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 8: Game five. In the nineteen ninety seven NBA Finals, left

1032
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 8: tackle Dion Dawkins had his Flu game against the best

1033
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 8: pass rusher in the league in Miles Garrett. You know,

1034
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 8: Dawkins was out for two days preparing for the best

1035
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 8: pass rusher in the league, and Garrett was just a

1036
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 8: second and a half away from beating the single season record.

1037
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 8: Dawkins was fabulous against the Cleveland Browns, just allowing a

1038
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,760
Speaker 8: half sack that Garrett finishes the day with he doesn't

1039
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 8: break the record, and Dawkins said, hey, I lost fourteen

1040
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 8: pounds because of this flew and it was a blessing

1041
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 8: in disguise because I was a little bit lighter on

1042
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 8: my feet, I could do my job better.

1043
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 3: So way to go, Dion Dawkins. When you missed two days.

1044
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,720
Speaker 8: Of practice in preparation for one of the best players

1045
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 8: in the game, you did the dang thing.

1046
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 2: And I think you got to credit the offensive staff too.

1047
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 2: They put together a really good game plan for Garrett,

1048
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 2: you know, with the help that they provided Dawkins with

1049
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 2: through the course of the game, whether it was David

1050
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 2: Edwards stepping that way a lot in through the course

1051
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 2: of that game, or other means by which they kind

1052
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 2: of set things up to leave Garrett in no man's land.

1053
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 2: You know. They would step the guard that way so

1054
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 2: he would try to line up further inside. Then he

1055
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 2: couldn't get to the edge to get around the corner. So,

1056
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 2: you know, kudos to Aaron Cromer, Joe Brady, the offensive staff,

1057
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 2: Rob Boris for the way they kind of drew that

1058
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 2: thing up because they rendered Garrett, you know, ineffective in

1059
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 2: that game.

1060
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 3: It would leading up to it all we had people.

1061
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,479
Speaker 3: Well they got to chip him. They got a double

1062
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 3: team and get it back over there to ship. They

1063
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 3: gotta get a tight end on the outside. And yes,

1064
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 3: all of that's true. But they did everything and they

1065
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 3: didn't let him know what it was going to be

1066
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 3: from from snap to snap, and they mixed. They'd have

1067
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 3: a couple of tight ends over there and he'd have

1068
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 3: to line up inside, and then it wouldn't be the

1069
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 3: tight ends of the protective they'd slide the guard out

1070
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 3: and the tight ends are gone. On the pass route

1071
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 3: or vice versa, Dion would set inside and then Titan

1072
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 3: would come down. He didn't have a chance to get

1073
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 3: out ahead of it. He had to react. And that

1074
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 3: was you know, every player will tell you a plan

1075
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 3: is better, and particularly when you can execute the plan,

1076
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 3: but you don't have a plan when you don't know

1077
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 3: what you're gonna face. And that that kudos to their

1078
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 3: offensive staff and the players, Dion and all the guys

1079
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 3: who were there with him that held Miles Garrett to

1080
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:07,919
Speaker 3: a half sack.

1081
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 8: The Sloberknocker Award defensive end Greg Russo was a slober

1082
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 8: knocker against the Cleveland Browns. And if you're wondering, okay, slaberknocker,

1083
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 8: where does this come from? The defensive line has this

1084
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 8: award and they have sweatshirts where it says the slaber

1085
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 8: knocker of the week. So it's an award that they

1086
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 8: coin each other throughout the season, and I'm giving it

1087
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 8: to Greg Russo. Rousseau turned it up a notch in

1088
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 8: the second half with his effort and physicality. The bartender said, hey,

1089
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 8: one last call, and Russeau said.

1090
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have a few.

1091
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 8: That few was one and a half sacks. On Cleveland's

1092
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 8: final two drives when they had a chance to win,

1093
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 8: he had a sack that forced a turnover on downs

1094
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 8: and then forced intentional grounding on the last drive. He

1095
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 8: finishes with two and a half sacks and seven quarterback hits.

1096
00:58:56,160 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 8: Rousseau had a great game and somebody, somebody had to

1097
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 8: step up on the defensive line, and Russeau did it.

1098
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 2: They also got credit for nine quarterback pressures in the game,

1099
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 2: so he was active. But I think he essentially took

1100
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 2: that game over at the end. They needed somebody to

1101
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 2: step off on defense and he did it down the

1102
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 2: stretch there in a big way. Like I even said

1103
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 2: it on the broadcast coming out of you know, we

1104
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 2: go into this game expecting Miles Garrett to potentially break

1105
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 2: the single season sack record and Greg Russeau was the

1106
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 2: best pass rusher in the game at the most critical

1107
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 2: time in the game at the end. So kudos to

1108
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,479
Speaker 2: him man for coming. I mean it. Guy had three

1109
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 2: sacks going into the game on the season. He almost

1110
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 2: matched his season totally yesterday with two and a half

1111
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 2: by the time the game was over all Right, next

1112
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 2: one is the Secret Sauce Award.

1113
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 8: The Bills have four straight wins. One secret ingredient behind

1114
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 8: those win wins have been the takeaways. Buffalo's defense has

1115
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 8: done a fabulous job of showing up in the second

1116
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 8: half of the season, playing physical, playing together. The rush

1117
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 8: and coverage has been a lot better as of late.

1118
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 8: Since Week thirteen, they have seven takeaways that ties for

1119
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 8: third most in the league. In the second half, you

1120
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 8: can count them to spoil an opponent's plan. They've done

1121
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 8: a great job of coming from behind in the second half.

1122
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 8: They do it against the Cleveland Browns in the fourth quarter,

1123
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 8: really lock in and play a great final minutes.

1124
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 3: Of the game. Yeah, those were huge in the first

1125
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 3: half because you know, it looked like it was going

1126
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 3: to be all too easy for the Browns offensively, because

1127
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 3: they first drive the game. It looked bad for the

1128
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 3: Bill's defense. And then you know the tipped interception. All

1129
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 3: of a sudden things change and the Bills are out

1130
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 3: in front, and yeah, it was Those were huge and

1131
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 3: you can't overstate your ability to do that when you can.

1132
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 3: You know, Joey Bosa, is this tip pass here that

1133
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 3: dayk One picks off.

1134
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 2: That is amazing. It was interception of his life, of

1135
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 2: his football.

1136
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 3: That's crazy, what a time to get it. But Joey

1137
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 3: Bosa once again keeping contained doing spin move that all.

1138
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 3: It makes a difference. It takes when your defense is

1139
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 3: in the shape that the Bill's defense is in, you

1140
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 3: don't know who's gonna do it. Like for Cleveland, you

1141
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 3: kind of figure Miles is gonna be a factor in

1142
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 3: anything they do. He's gonna force Josh to run. He's

1143
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 3: gonna force Josh to make a bad throw. He's gonna

1144
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 3: do that. With the Bills defense and the shape that

1145
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 3: it is in and the way it's built right now,

1146
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 3: with the injuries and the way it's progressed through the season,

1147
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 3: it's gonna take all eleven guys. At some point, somebody's

1148
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 3: gonna do a one to eleventh. That makes a difference,

1149
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 3: like Bosa did on that, like a Poyer did, Like

1150
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 3: Cole Bishop making the tackle and certainly at the end

1151
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 3: of that Rousseau closed the door and that was amazing.

1152
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 3: That was a really unbelievable sequence he had there at

1153
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 3: the end of the game.

1154
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 8: All Right, the Surge award the Surges Buffalo's second half defense.

1155
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 8: Buffalo's defense put it together in the fourth quarter when

1156
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 8: they had to do something. Cleveland was down by just

1157
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 8: three points and there was like eight and a half

1158
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 8: minutes left on the clock, so there's time to make

1159
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 8: something happen. Buffalo's defense did a great job of playing smart,

1160
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 8: fast and physical football on their final two drives, turnover

1161
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 8: on downs and a punt. Greg Russo led the charge

1162
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 8: with a second and a half on the final two

1163
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 8: drives and forced intentional grounding again in the second half.

1164
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 8: This defense has done a great job of showing up

1165
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 8: in the moments where they absolutely need to. Sometimes it's

1166
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 8: hard to be on a stage and you have to

1167
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 8: do something. Buffalo's defense has done it consistently in the

1168
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 8: second half of the season.

1169
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think everybody will agree they're not perfect.

1170
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 2: They got some warts, some deficiencies. I think, as I've

1171
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 2: said all season long, i think it's due in large

1172
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 2: part to a lack of manpower on that side of

1173
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 2: the ball due to important players. I mean people you

1174
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 2: know complain about their lack of a consistent pass rush. Well,

1175
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 2: their two fastest and most able bodied pass rushers At

1176
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 2: Oliver and Michael Hoyt are lost for the season. Take

1177
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 2: the two best pass rushers off of any defensive front.

1178
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 2: They're gonna struggle. They're gonna struggle. It's just the way

1179
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 2: it is. It's a matchup league, and you got some

1180
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 2: of your best pass rushers not part of the equation

1181
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 2: for the balance of the season. It's gonna hurt you, yea.

1182
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 2: So they're trying to make do more with less, and

1183
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 2: they're finding a way to scrape by and make plays

1184
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 2: of critical moments.

1185
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 3: You know, overstated, but you know, there's seven minutes and

1186
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 3: five seconds left in the game. The Browns just they

1187
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 3: kick a field goal to get it to three points,

1188
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 3: and they get the ball back at the seven oh

1189
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 3: five mark of the fourth quarter. They go four plays

1190
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 3: minus five yards on the drive and it's they give

1191
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 3: it up on downs. Then in the next series they

1192
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 3: get the ball back with one thirty eight, still down

1193
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 3: by the same three points. It's four plays minus eleven

1194
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 3: yards net and they got a punt it away or

1195
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 3: they're gonna or they're gonna give the Bills the ball

1196
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 3: is the fourth and thirty two or the fourth and

1197
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 3: twenty three or whatever. So those two, the last two

1198
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 3: series for the Bills defense were absolute door slammers, and

1199
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 3: they deserve some credit for it, all right.

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01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 2: Final one the making History Award.

1201
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 8: With Buffalo's win over Cleveland, Bill's head coach Sean McDermott

1202
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 8: now has ninety seven wins as Buffalo's head coach. That's

1203
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 8: the second most in the head coach's first nine seasons,

1204
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 8: passing Paul Brown, who had ninety six. The Bills also

1205
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 8: have eleven wins and six straight seasons. It's the longest

1206
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 8: active streak in the league. Sean McDermott has been a

1207
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 8: fantastic coach for Buffalo for many reasons, but this year

1208
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 8: what sticks out the most is their second half adjustments.

1209
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 8: It's won then so many games throughout the year. Their

1210
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 8: plus one h nine point differential in the second half

1211
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 8: is thirty eight more points than the team that's in

1212
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 8: second place. I mean, it has been dominant in the

1213
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 8: second half.

1214
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, you can you can have your criticism

1215
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:57,439
Speaker 2: all you want for Sean McDermott, But the last time

1216
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 2: I checked, most people say, just win, baby, guy, just wins,

1217
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 2: And look, I know he's never gonna get credit for

1218
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 2: it because people are like, wow, you got Josh Allen

1219
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 2: Well the guy he just passed Paul Brown, the Hall

1220
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 2: of Fame head coach and founder of the Cleveland Browns.

1221
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 2: He had Otto Graham as his quarterback, and they won

1222
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 2: ten NFL championships together, Like most great coaches have great quarterbacks.

1223
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah, it's like all these well yeah, all

1224
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 3: these other coaches who are winning without a quarterback. Why

1225
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 3: can't our guy win with I mean, I don't know

1226
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 3: who you can.

1227
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 2: Find examples through the course of history. Has Bill Parcells

1228
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 2: ever had a world class quarterback? No, but Phil Simms

1229
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 2: was pretty dang good. I know we weren't so dressed.

1230
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 2: Jeff Hostetler, but yeah, Drew bledsoe got to another Super

1231
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 2: Bowl with the Patriots, didn't win. So, I mean, I'm

1232
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 2: sure you can come up with examples, but I don't

1233
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 2: know if you can find an example with this kind

1234
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 2: of staying power year after year after year after year.

1235
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 2: They're all only a handful of coaches that have this

1236
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 2: many consecutive eleven wins seasons, and most of them are

1237
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame or going to the Hall

1238
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 2: of Fame.

1239
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 3: And they also and they also did have a guy

1240
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 3: taking snaps. They had some stuff around him, no question

1241
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 3: about it. You look around the league guys who teams

1242
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 3: who win have a head coach and they got a quarterback,

1243
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 3: they got one or the other. And some of them

1244
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 3: got a quarterback no head coach, and they're changing it

1245
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 3: up because they aren't winning eleven games now all out

1246
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 3: of the Jacksonville Jaguars changed it.

1247
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 8: A couple of times, the Miami Dolphins who made right.

1248
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 3: And the quarterback, and the Denver Broncos two years ago

1249
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 3: when they brought their guy in, and the the Los

1250
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 3: Angeles Chargers who had a quarterback and didn't have a

1251
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 3: head coach they like. So it works both ways.

1252
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 2: It's a symbiotic relationship, I believe is what what you

1253
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 2: call me exactly. It's my fifty cent word of the day, Maddie.

1254
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 2: Thank you for this edition of the Maddie Awards. We'll

1255
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 2: see what happens this weekend. Hopefully there's another notch in

1256
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 2: the belt. Five game winning streak and another edition of

1257
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 2: the Maddie Awards Monday would love it.

1258
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 8: Buffalo searching for their first win against the Eagles since

1259
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 8: two thousand and eleven.

1260
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 3: A minute, in.

1261
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Speaker 2: A minute, we will take a break here, but when

1262
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 2: we come back, more of your phone calls here on

1263
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 2: a Buffalo victory Monday. On One Bill's Live, presented by

1264
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Speaker 2: Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

1265
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 3: And off to.

1266
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 2: Cook cuts it back through a hole and he's off

1267
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 2: and cuts it back again into the secondary. Twenty five,

1268
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 2: twenty cuts it near side ten five. James Cook is

1269
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 2: in the kitchen. Big Energy Play of the Week is

1270
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 2: presented by National Grid. National Grid brings reliable energy to

1271
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 2: Bill's Mafia and beyond. James Cook with that forty four

1272
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 2: yard touchdown run help the Bills break a team record

1273
01:07:56,160 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 2: for the most forty plus yard touchdowns in team history

1274
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 2: on the ground. They had tied the record last year

1275
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 2: when Cook himself had four such touchdown runs. Cook now

1276
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 2: has four this season, and Allen has won the forty

1277
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 2: yarder against the Bengals a couple of weeks ago. They

1278
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 2: have five forty plus yard touchdown runs. That is a

1279
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 2: new team record.

1280
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 3: Does your quarterback have a forty yard touchdown run.

1281
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know if there's nothing, not many

1282
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 2: of them.

1283
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:25,599
Speaker 3: I don't think there's another one in the NFL this year.

1284
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 2: So pretty impressive and pretty cool. I want to get

1285
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 2: back to the phones though. At eight three zero five

1286
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 2: point fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two five

1287
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 2: fifty that's the number to can jump on board. And

1288
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 2: we go to Dick in Hamburg. What's up, Dick?

1289
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 9: Good afternoon, guys, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year.

1290
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 2: Do you too?

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Speaker 9: I have a question, but I'd like to maybe preface

1292
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 9: the question. I was a original season ticket holder back

1293
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 9: in nineteen sixty and I've been always going to check

1294
01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 9: out to see what I paid for the season ticket.

1295
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 9: I think I was somewhere around of one hundred and

1296
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 9: twenty twenty five dollars for the season. But I also

1297
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 9: every game that I went to, I always took a

1298
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:16,640
Speaker 9: radio with me, and I've listened to every one of

1299
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 9: the Bills broadcasters from Rick Asiar and of course Van

1300
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 9: Miller and John Murphy and Chris I have to tell

1301
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 9: you you don't have to take a back seat to

1302
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 9: any of them. You are absolutely fantastic play by play

1303
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 9: the enthusiasm about twenty years ago, I went totally blind,

1304
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 9: so I really entirely on your description of the game.

1305
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 9: I also was able to enjoy Steve Tasker's fabulous career. Steve,

1306
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 9: there will never be another one like you. My question

1307
01:09:56,800 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 9: is emphasis has been put some which I'm communicating the

1308
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 9: last couple of weeks and not being able to see

1309
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 9: what's going on. My question is just how and why

1310
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:18,600
Speaker 9: and when do they communicate. Dion Dawkins made reference to

1311
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 9: the fact that our left guard that he's working with

1312
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:26,679
Speaker 9: now is one of the best that he has had

1313
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 9: the pleasure of working with due to the fact he's

1314
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:33,879
Speaker 9: able to communicate with How does he do that verbally

1315
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 9: or with gestures? And also the silent snap, the silent count,

1316
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 9: how did they do that?

1317
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, happy to help you, Dick, and thanks for

1318
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 2: the kind words. I appreciate that. And glad we're able

1319
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:49,520
Speaker 2: to paint a picture for you on game day. So basically,

1320
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 2: David Edwards, the play that Dion was referencing was actually

1321
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,799
Speaker 2: the forty yard touchdown run by Josh against the Bengals

1322
01:10:56,840 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago. So there are two rushers coming.

1323
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 2: One is the defensive end who Dion is typically assigned

1324
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 2: to on the outside, but the linebacker fired as well

1325
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 2: on a blitz and while Dion's eyes are focused on

1326
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 2: the outside rusher, David Edwards alerts him and says, Blitzer coming.

1327
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 2: So he shouts that to him and hopes that Dion

1328
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:22,719
Speaker 2: hears it in time, because the rule is you work

1329
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 2: inside out. Inside rushers are more dangerous to your quarterback

1330
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 2: than the outside because the outside guys have more ground

1331
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 2: to cover, so you pick up the inside guy first.

1332
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 2: So as soon as David says blitzer inside, Dion shifts

1333
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 2: his focus and hopefully gets there in time. He did,

1334
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 2: and then it's Josh's job to handle the outside guy

1335
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 2: one on one and make him miss. So that was

1336
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 2: the communication there. Steve can speak to this because he's

1337
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 2: seen it, but defenders often in a loud environment at

1338
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 2: a home game, so the Bill's playing at home, the

1339
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 2: defense has to communicate with a lot of noise because

1340
01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 2: they're trying to distract the opposing offense. Will use hand

1341
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 2: signals a lot of times, right.

1342
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, they use everything they can think of, and it

1343
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 3: comes down to and it's part of the fun part

1344
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 3: of practice sometimes where you come up with your own

1345
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:16,799
Speaker 3: language to communicate what you're trying to tell your teammate,

1346
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 3: either you know, with a hand signal or a head

1347
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:23,680
Speaker 3: whatever it is, or a word or some words, and

1348
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 3: you come up with creative ways to particularly for information

1349
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 3: you don't want your opponent to hear. Now, in the

1350
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 3: case of the offensive line, they don't care. All they

1351
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:38,639
Speaker 3: want to do is get a hat on a hat.

1352
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 3: That's why you'll see Josh and a lot of quarterbacks

1353
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,759
Speaker 3: use very plain language and they'll say, hey, number fifty

1354
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 3: six is the fifty six is the mic right, and

1355
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 3: he'll point to it. So they don't care if the

1356
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 3: defense knows who they're designating as the mic, because the

1357
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 3: defense still doesn't know which direction they're protection's coming from. Right.

1358
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:03,680
Speaker 3: They have all kinds of words and gestures that communicate,

1359
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 3: and it's specific to every game plan, specific to every

1360
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 3: defensive call, specific to every two guys along the line

1361
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 3: of scrimmage. So the words that David Edwards uses with

1362
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 3: Connor McGovern the center to his right is different than

1363
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 3: the words he uses to Dion Dawkins, his left tackle

1364
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:23,519
Speaker 3: that's on his left, and the same thing for Connor McGovern.

1365
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 3: He'll say one thing to Cibo at right guard at

1366
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 3: right guard, and he'll say something else to David Edwards

1367
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 3: his left guard, and they'll each have different words and

1368
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 3: gestures because they don't want to get confused, right. They

1369
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 3: don't want the same word for one as they use

1370
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 3: the other because they can hear it. So all of

1371
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:45,679
Speaker 3: that goes into it, and it takes a lot of work.

1372
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 3: And that's why when they say the offensive line has

1373
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 3: to come together, there's a lot in it.

1374
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, And there might be certain packages on defense that

1375
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,639
Speaker 2: need to be identified right away before the play too,

1376
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 2: and you have to do it quickly sometimes if the

1377
01:13:57,479 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 2: other team's going fast. So I remember back in the day,

1378
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 2: I can't remember if it was Jerry Gray or Dick

1379
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 2: Lebou who is the defensive coordinator at the time, and

1380
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 2: they had a sub package that was called Ruby, and

1381
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 2: the signal that they would use is they would grab

1382
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 2: their ring finger like it's a Ruby ring and that

1383
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 2: would be a signal to everybody grabbing the ring finger, Okay,

1384
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 2: we're playing Ruby. We're lining up in Ruby. That's what

1385
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:23,599
Speaker 2: we're gonna play. It's those little gestures that they adopt.

1386
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 2: Now sometimes during the season they have to change those

1387
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 2: because opposing teams look at what your gestures are and

1388
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 2: then look at what your play is on film and

1389
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 2: then attach the signal to the play call. And so

1390
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 2: sometimes you have to change that through the course of

1391
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 2: the season so your division opponents who play you twice

1392
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 2: don't get wise to that sting.

1393
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 3: And then, yeah, and there's a lot of gamesmanship. So

1394
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 3: when this week, the ruby's gonna mean something different, So

1395
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:50,599
Speaker 3: when they get into it and they think we're running it,

1396
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:53,440
Speaker 3: we're actually running something else, and we're gonna get them

1397
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 3: because they're gonna be running something against our ruby package

1398
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 3: of last week, not this week. So that kind of

1399
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 3: thing a lot of gamesmanship, and that's why in years

1400
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 3: past with the with the New England Patriots, they were

1401
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:09,719
Speaker 3: notorious of trying to find out what the defensive signals

1402
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 3: were for their opponent. They filmed them and which was illegal.

1403
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 3: They did a lot of illegal stuff that they got

1404
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 3: caught for cost some draft picks. Belichick got fined the

1405
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 3: whole thing. I mean, they it was a thing and

1406
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 3: it's probably still is. They they want to find out

1407
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 3: what your defensive signals are because they get an idea

1408
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 3: by through film study of what they each mean and

1409
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 3: if they can find out before the play is run,

1410
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 3: they're always in the perfect offensive play. And you can

1411
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 3: you can see the results of that.

1412
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 2: Let's go back to the phones and to Butcher over

1413
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 2: on the east side. What's up, Butch?

1414
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 10: My brother's from another beautiful mother. I love him as

1415
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 10: g I love wgr And to all the fans to

1416
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 10: listen and watch the TV show on radio station, I

1417
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 10: love you. I'm gonna get right to it. One thing

1418
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 10: I got to say you, Brownie, is this The gentleman

1419
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 10: just called get you accolades, and I concur with him

1420
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 10: regarding how you're doing your job. You're doing excellent. But

1421
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 10: let me tell you something. I gave you a jewel

1422
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:08,639
Speaker 10: long time and you still at this. And guess what

1423
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 10: when when Cook broke away, I was listening to the radio.

1424
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 10: I was waiting for you to say the expressways. So

1425
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:16,559
Speaker 10: but he's at the thirty five or fifteen Cooks didn't

1426
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 10: catch it.

1427
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 11: I was waiting for it, buddy.

1428
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 10: But that's okay. Keep practicing at home. And that goes

1429
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 10: to it. Whether it's the Disney to me use that

1430
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:25,600
Speaker 10: express with man. But anyway, I'm gonna get back to this.

1431
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:29,639
Speaker 10: It's offensively. When they sat down Coleman and they sat

1432
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 10: down Davis, I already knew, Okay, we're gonna pound the rock.

1433
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 12: Change Cook. Everybody knows him in the NFL. Josh Allen

1434
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 12: has a weapon. Now it's not even though he has

1435
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 12: to put on the case. Sometime we get to have

1436
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 12: something on the other side of the game plan. They're

1437
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:47,759
Speaker 12: gonna have to study that passed that the James dropped.

1438
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:49,879
Speaker 12: He was already looking to take it up the sideline.

1439
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 12: That's why he lost concentration. But I'm telling you now

1440
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:55,639
Speaker 12: he won't drop any more. I promise you this, Brandon

1441
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 12: Cook is not gonna drop it anymore.

1442
01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 10: The velocity of the way the football Josh throws a

1443
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 10: lot of the East New receivers never saw it before.

1444
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 10: They never saw players quarterbacks that could.

1445
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:06,880
Speaker 2: Put it right on the dime.

1446
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 10: Now, Steve, you know what I mean when I say this,

1447
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:12,599
Speaker 10: When Kelly throws that rock and then you ain't used

1448
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 10: to catching it, you you it'll shock you. Then after

1449
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 10: a while you get used to it. But moving forward

1450
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 10: with this thing, that game plan they had against coming

1451
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 10: out against the Browns, pounding that rock. If it ain't broke,

1452
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 10: don't fix it. Keep rocking it, keep rocking it. And

1453
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 10: I like to play with Brady when he did put in,

1454
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:34,600
Speaker 10: uh he had Ty Johnson and he had Cooking the

1455
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 10: backfield at the same time. Moving forward, I would like

1456
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:37,680
Speaker 10: to see that.

1457
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 2: But they used that last week against New England too.

1458
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:43,640
Speaker 10: Oh they did. I didn't see that, but I had

1459
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 10: to tie on the.

1460
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:45,880
Speaker 2: Dive at the end of the game to get that

1461
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 2: first down to seal it.

1462
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, they should do. They should keep that going because

1463
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 10: going forwards, and we.

1464
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:54,599
Speaker 12: Got I'm gonna call it six five games, now six

1465
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:56,599
Speaker 12: games we in the show, seven.

1466
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 10: Week Champions or just say six wee in the show.

1467
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:00,599
Speaker 13: Listen for the these next.

1468
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 10: Six games, man, I would really implement that and along

1469
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 10: with getting cook out the backfield and Johnson off the backfield,

1470
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:09,679
Speaker 10: along with them three tight ends and I can see

1471
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 10: as moving forward. But thanks so much for taking my call.

1472
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 10: I love both of you, and you guys keep.

1473
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 11: Doing the job.

1474
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:16,680
Speaker 10: But Brownie, I want you get in the bathroom and

1475
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 10: practice right.

1476
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 2: Fair enough, but uh yeah, the offset eye that they

1477
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 2: use Ty Johnson and cook in sometimes they've even lined

1478
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 2: him up on either side of Josh and the shotgun.

1479
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, and then they give it to tie as

1480
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 2: the up man so he gets to the line quicker.

1481
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:38,560
Speaker 2: It's worked for them on some short yardage stuff. What

1482
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 2: was it a third and two against the Patriots late

1483
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 2: in that game. They needed that last first down to

1484
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:46,960
Speaker 2: get them to burn their last time out and then

1485
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 2: you know, kneel out the game. I think that was

1486
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 2: the play they used. It was an offset eye. Yeah,

1487
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:53,639
Speaker 2: there it is. Our crack staff and the control room

1488
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 2: had it right there. He got the first hand off

1489
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 2: yep on a full back dive, even though he's not

1490
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 2: a fullback technically. But yeah, I like both of those

1491
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 2: guys on the field at the same time. I'll sign

1492
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 2: up for that.

1493
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:05,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they're both past catching, you know guys, and

1494
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:09,639
Speaker 3: and with the lack of production we've had from wide receivers,

1495
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 3: you got it. The more ways you can threaten the defense,

1496
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 3: the better it is. And if you have to put

1497
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:16,720
Speaker 3: two backs out there that could catch the ball, I'm

1498
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 3: fine to do it. They I saw yesterday they did

1499
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 3: some good stuff with the three tight ends. I mean, King, Kid,

1500
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:26,720
Speaker 3: Knox and Hawes were in the on the field, and

1501
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 3: I think that the wide out that was out there

1502
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:34,559
Speaker 3: with them was Cooks, I think, But I'm not sure,

1503
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 3: so it was They're they're tinkering with the personnel, no

1504
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:40,559
Speaker 3: question about it, to try and hit on all cylinders.

1505
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 2: I'm wondering if the receiving corps changes again, because you

1506
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 2: had two healthy inactives in Keon Coleman and Gabe Davis.

1507
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 2: The production on the outside was a little stark yesterday.

1508
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 2: I mean Shavers, Cooks and Palmer combined for two catches

1509
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 2: for twenty three yards. Now, granted they only had four targets,

1510
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 2: but why do they only have four targets? You know

1511
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 2: what I mean? So I think I think it's starting

1512
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 2: that's gonna need a close examination again this week and

1513
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 2: decide what works against what is a very physical Philadelphia defense,

1514
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,600
Speaker 2: particularly at the corner position. Do you go bigger and

1515
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:19,679
Speaker 2: stronger or do you go faster like they did yesterday

1516
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:20,639
Speaker 2: without a lot of success.

1517
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 3: I don't know, and I think too it's getting to

1518
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:26,760
Speaker 3: the point where the lack of targets for the white

1519
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:31,560
Speaker 3: Outs is starting to be deliberate. I got to say it.

1520
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, We'll see where it goes. Tamron in Richmond, who

1521
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:36,800
Speaker 2: wants to talk about the wide receiver group as well.

1522
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 2: What's up? Miron Hi jeen.

1523
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:39,760
Speaker 4: Thanks you taking my call.

1524
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 14: You guys kind of let into it right.

1525
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:41,720
Speaker 3: Well.

1526
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 14: I was most surprised to see gave Davis any Kon

1527
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 14: Coleman down yesterday. And you know, obviously with who they

1528
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 14: played is see want they're prietorizing speed over a size

1529
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 14: and power. But the question is really kind of comparing

1530
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:55,680
Speaker 14: gave Davis to Terrelle Shavers. Do they I mean, I

1531
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 14: know shamers play teams that gay doesn't, but are we

1532
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 14: kind of that I don't want to feel low on

1533
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:04,480
Speaker 14: special teams players, but you know, the team seems to prioritize,

1534
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 14: you know, Shavers that were gay Davis just just for

1535
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:09,280
Speaker 14: a special seeds ability. But I'm wondering if for getting

1536
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 14: some production taken off the field of the wide receiver

1537
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:14,799
Speaker 14: spot because Josh has such a good report gave Davis.

1538
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 14: That's my question, guys, Thank.

1539
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:16,639
Speaker 15: You very much.

1540
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:19,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a valid question, and I, like I just

1541
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 2: said a moment ago. I think that's why it's going

1542
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 2: to lead to further examination from the offensive staff in

1543
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 2: terms of determining who is up and who is down.

1544
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:32,760
Speaker 2: You know, you look at the plays that were not

1545
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 2: made yesterday, there was clearly a lack of execution in

1546
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:38,519
Speaker 2: the passing game. It wasn't all the receivers. Josh admitted

1547
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:41,400
Speaker 2: to missing a couple of throws yesterday to the over

1548
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 2: route to Shakir comes to mind in particular because he

1549
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 2: referenced it specifically in his postgame remarks. It's got to

1550
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 2: be better. He knows it, the receivers know it. They'll

1551
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 2: work to fix it for this week because you're going

1552
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 2: against a really good secondary this week and guys that

1553
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 2: can run and cover people. So what is your approach

1554
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 2: to win in the passing game? Because outside the numbers,

1555
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:08,720
Speaker 2: they're just in the flat out not making plays. They

1556
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 2: can work the middle of the field with the tight

1557
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 2: ends and Shakir. Outside the numbers, it's been rough in

1558
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:18,519
Speaker 2: terms of production on a weekly basis.

1559
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:20,560
Speaker 3: Here if it's a problem, Yeah, it seems like the

1560
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 3: only way they're getting any wide receiver receptions is to

1561
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:25,760
Speaker 3: throw it a tunnel screen to Shakir or a quick

1562
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 3: release pass to Shakir's or one of the running backs.

1563
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:30,160
Speaker 2: We're kin of crossing around in the middle of the field, right.

1564
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 3: So yeah, they're gonna have to figure something out. I

1565
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 3: don't about prioritizing special teams reps over wide receiver reps.

1566
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 3: It's getting to the point where they may as well, right,

1567
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 3: I don't know that they believe now. Certainly Gabe has

1568
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:55,559
Speaker 3: made some good plays here, you know, since coming getting

1569
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 3: activated on a couple of occasions. I just don't know

1570
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 3: if they're going to depend on that consistently. A couple

1571
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:02,680
Speaker 3: of them have been on scrambled drills and that kind

1572
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 3: of thing, and gave maybe better at that than some

1573
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 3: of the other guys on it because he got more experience.

1574
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:08,720
Speaker 2: And the other thing too, is they did have a

1575
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:12,719
Speaker 2: hardman up and active yesterday. He gets on the field

1576
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 2: for two plays, two punt returns and that's it. Or

1577
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 2: was it a one punt return and one kick return? No,

1578
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:21,759
Speaker 2: it was two punt returns of returns.

1579
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 3: I think that was it.

1580
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:26,599
Speaker 2: Didn't have a snap on offense, So do you spind

1581
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:30,759
Speaker 2: the dial and try him as your speed element on offense?

1582
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 2: He got a few snaps in his first game with

1583
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 2: the Bills against Tampa on offense, but then he went

1584
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 2: on ir Now he's back, do they incorporate him a

1585
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:41,759
Speaker 2: little bit more and use him as their quote unquote

1586
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:42,599
Speaker 2: speed receiver.

1587
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 3: We don't know either. What is a what is a

1588
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:49,719
Speaker 3: decision or just a trend, or whether it's a player

1589
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 3: outperforming or underperforming. The roster moves, particularly at the wide

1590
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 3: receiver demand scrutiny because they've been changing so much due

1591
01:23:57,479 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 3: to injury and production, or at least suspected production. It

1592
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 3: may be totally injury related, but you can get a

1593
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:08,640
Speaker 3: feeling like activating Hardman as soon as he's capable to

1594
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 3: go back and return punts, and then seeing what and

1595
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 3: then seeing Brandon Cooks have some opportunities over the last

1596
01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 3: couple of weeks, a couple of significant drops, but not

1597
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 3: all that many targets. You kind of wonder, are they

1598
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 3: making decisions based on production, Are they making decisions based

1599
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 3: on injury. Are they making decisions based on special teams

1600
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:35,560
Speaker 3: or offense or Josh's comfort level. We don't know, but

1601
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 3: it changes every week, and that's why you're trying to

1602
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 3: look for trends, and I don't know there is any.

1603
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:44,479
Speaker 2: There was a while earlier in the season when a

1604
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 2: bunch of guys were banged up and Joe Brady wasn't

1605
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 2: having the same five receivers in the lineup for about

1606
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:56,720
Speaker 2: two months. It's hard to game plan and cater to

1607
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 2: your receiving talent. When you don't know who you're gonna

1608
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:04,479
Speaker 2: have every week, sometimes that becomes a chore. They are

1609
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:09,719
Speaker 2: healthier now, but we're not seeing that dynamic change.

1610
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 3: Why is that?

1611
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 2: As Steve said, I don't know that we're ever going

1612
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 2: to get a definitive answer on that, because we're just

1613
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 2: not in those rooms and we'll never know.

1614
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 3: And it doesn't mean every week it's the same reason. Well, right,

1615
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 3: you know I mean, but it has been an absolute

1616
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 3: whirlpool of change the entire season.

1617
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 2: Break time for us here, Morir phone calls when we

1618
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:34,640
Speaker 2: get back on a Buffalo victory Monday Here on One

1619
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:54,960
Speaker 2: Bill's Live presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio motion.

1620
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:58,280
Speaker 2: Right to left from Shakir hand off to Johnson and

1621
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 2: he races into the end zone for an easy two

1622
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 2: yard touchdown run. This week's Clean Play of the Week

1623
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 2: is presented by Tide. If it's gotta be clean, it's

1624
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 2: gotta be tied Ty Johnson with that two yard touchdown run.

1625
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 2: And it was clean because he didn't get touched.

1626
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:19,560
Speaker 3: He ran right by the defensive tack Caverns threw unblocked.

1627
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 3: He gave a side swipe, and it happened so fast

1628
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:25,680
Speaker 3: the dtackle didn't even realize he had the ball, and

1629
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 3: there was actually two guys right in the hole. Ty

1630
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:34,840
Speaker 3: Johnson did a little jitter move and just walked right

1631
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:38,519
Speaker 3: by him. It happened so fast, the ball handling was

1632
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:40,960
Speaker 3: so crisp they didn't even get a chance to react.

1633
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 3: And he was right by him. So I mean right there,

1634
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:48,160
Speaker 3: he was right by the guy, and it's like he's

1635
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:49,680
Speaker 3: standing in the back of the end zone before the

1636
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 3: guy even can turn around and say, well, what happened?

1637
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 3: Really good job down inside. I don't know how it

1638
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:00,160
Speaker 3: was supposed to be blocked, but whatever they did had

1639
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 3: worked to perfection.

1640
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 2: M h. So that's your clean play of the week.

1641
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 2: Got to get back to the phones, though, people holding

1642
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 2: at eight or three h five fifty and did Joe

1643
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:09,360
Speaker 2: in Tonawanda?

1644
01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:13,479
Speaker 15: What's up, Joe, gentlemen, Good afternoon and happy holidays you too.

1645
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:17,960
Speaker 15: So two things and you guys were hitting it on

1646
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 15: the head and where I was going with this wide

1647
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 15: receiver issues and you know, Elijah Moore, that was a

1648
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 15: total bust. Palmer's been invisible. We bring in cooks. I

1649
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:32,639
Speaker 15: think he said one catch for thirteen yards first game

1650
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 15: he played, He's had drop passes. Hardman. Uh, he is

1651
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:40,600
Speaker 15: a proven winner going forward. You know, my feeling is,

1652
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:42,640
Speaker 15: you know what, just put Keon Coleman in there and

1653
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 15: let him do what he can do. Give him his

1654
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:47,760
Speaker 15: opportunity with these last two games. He's big. I know

1655
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:49,880
Speaker 15: he hasn't lived up to what we thought, but you know,

1656
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:55,639
Speaker 15: I think Coleman should be in there over company Shavers. Yes, secure,

1657
01:27:55,760 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 15: obviously I would put Hardman and then Coleman and bring

1658
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 15: back Gable or and or. But you know, my feeling

1659
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 15: is Keyon should be the last two games, put in

1660
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 15: the lineup as our wide receiver, and then the last thing.

1661
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 15: With McDermott's complimentary football, you know, I hear him say

1662
01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:16,679
Speaker 15: it all the time we play. We strive to play

1663
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 15: complimentary football, complimentary football. But why is it one week

1664
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:23,559
Speaker 15: the offense is bailing the defense out. The next week

1665
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:26,640
Speaker 15: the defense is bailing the offense out. That's not complimentary.

1666
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 15: I don't get it. Where is the you know, where

1667
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 15: is this this falling off? If we're supposed to be

1668
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:35,840
Speaker 15: this complimentary football that McDermott preaches, you know, I don't

1669
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:38,639
Speaker 15: see that happening one week. Like I said, New England,

1670
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:42,439
Speaker 15: the first half the offense was nowhere. Uh, and then

1671
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 15: they came out in the second half and showed up.

1672
01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 15: And then last today it was the defense in the

1673
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 15: second half winning games. I don't know, just your thoughts, guy,

1674
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 15: and God bless you Christmas.

1675
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 2: Thanks Joe.

1676
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:54,360
Speaker 3: I don't know, how do you?

1677
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:56,559
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think you want to complete three

1678
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:57,640
Speaker 2: phase forties?

1679
01:28:58,160 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, we haven't.

1680
01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:01,360
Speaker 2: We haven't. Really, I've seen that a whole lot.

1681
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it. Yeah, you mean like winning thirty

1682
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:06,559
Speaker 3: one to nothing and having a kick return for a touchdown.

1683
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:09,519
Speaker 2: Well, I think I think fans I don't think they

1684
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 2: expect to see it every game, but I think they

1685
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 2: would like to be reminded that this team is capable

1686
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:17,599
Speaker 2: of putting together a three phase effort where everybody's clicking

1687
01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 2: and they're playing well like special teams is winning the

1688
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:24,679
Speaker 2: field position battle, and defense is getting stops and maybe

1689
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:27,920
Speaker 2: a turnover here or there, and the offense looks like

1690
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 2: a functional offense, both in the run and the pass game.

1691
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 2: And I think we'd be hard pressed to find a

1692
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:37,320
Speaker 2: game where all three of those things were happening. And

1693
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:40,200
Speaker 2: I'm not saying and Look, I'd be the first to

1694
01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 2: tell you in this league, with the level of competition

1695
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:45,400
Speaker 2: and the thin margins that exist from the best team

1696
01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 2: in the league to the worst team in the league,

1697
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 2: I don't think that's realistic to happen twelve thirteen times

1698
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:55,320
Speaker 2: a season, But I think a handful of times is realistic.

1699
01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:56,439
Speaker 2: With a team of this count it.

1700
01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:58,519
Speaker 3: Only it only counts unless it happens on the same game,

1701
01:29:58,560 --> 01:29:59,519
Speaker 3: in the same game.

1702
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:02,720
Speaker 2: Well, right, I just think that's what they'reafter. They want

1703
01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 2: to see a complete performance in all three phases. I'd

1704
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:09,599
Speaker 2: be hey, if it doesn't show up till the postseason,

1705
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 2: I'll sign up for it. Give me the three phase

1706
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:14,040
Speaker 2: performance in the postseason. You'll win the game in advance. Yeah,

1707
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:17,360
Speaker 2: I think that's what Joe is getting at.

1708
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:21,719
Speaker 3: Like what happened like thirty to ten over New York

1709
01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:24,759
Speaker 3: in Week two and forty to nine over the Carolina

1710
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 3: Panthers when everybody wanted to get everybody fired. Remember that game.

1711
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:33,080
Speaker 3: I do remember that. I do like that. I'm just

1712
01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:35,639
Speaker 3: trying to twenty six to seven win over the Pittsburgh Steam.

1713
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:39,080
Speaker 2: You're just trying to capture the callers perspective there. I

1714
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:41,680
Speaker 2: believe that's what he's getting at. What do you think

1715
01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:45,560
Speaker 2: about is receiving core thing he's of the mindset to

1716
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:49,040
Speaker 2: just play keyon. I think I kind of support it

1717
01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:53,439
Speaker 2: only because he's still learning on the job, so at

1718
01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:57,320
Speaker 2: least you feel like there's some potential to be reached there. Still,

1719
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:00,840
Speaker 2: does he get there this year? I don't know, but

1720
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:03,240
Speaker 2: at least you want to believe it's in there right,

1721
01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 2: still learning on the job. It could get better.

1722
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:08,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, here's yeah, I don't know.

1723
01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:11,000
Speaker 2: I mean, so much hope is not a plan.

1724
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:14,680
Speaker 3: I get it, that's exactly right. But also this we're

1725
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 3: not in meetings. So much of what goes into and

1726
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:21,120
Speaker 3: I spent thirteen years sitting in a position in offensive

1727
01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:25,200
Speaker 3: team meetings, team meetings, offensive meetings and position meetings with

1728
01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:29,240
Speaker 3: receivers and some pretty good receivers, and so much of

1729
01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:33,200
Speaker 3: what goes into that having a great wide receiver, being

1730
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:37,240
Speaker 3: a great wide receiver happens with the guy himself and

1731
01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 3: the position coach and the offense and the guy throwing

1732
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:42,960
Speaker 3: him the football. So much of it has to do

1733
01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:45,880
Speaker 3: with the way Andre Reid, as a Hall of Fame player,

1734
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:48,880
Speaker 3: played the game and what was important to him and

1735
01:31:49,000 --> 01:31:51,400
Speaker 3: why he was good is a little bit different than

1736
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:54,200
Speaker 3: what happened with James lofton the way he played wide

1737
01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:56,639
Speaker 3: receiver and what made him good even within the same offense,

1738
01:31:57,640 --> 01:31:59,880
Speaker 3: and same thing with Thurman Thomas and sitting in the

1739
01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:02,320
Speaker 3: running back means what made him a great running back

1740
01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:05,120
Speaker 3: and the opportunities he got and how they used him.

1741
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:10,280
Speaker 3: So much of what happens with these guys you never

1742
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:14,360
Speaker 3: see because it's personal. I mean, it is an individual

1743
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:18,840
Speaker 3: personal journey that the guy's got to go on. And

1744
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:20,920
Speaker 3: I don't know Keon Coleman well and I and we

1745
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:23,320
Speaker 3: all saw the you know, the puffy yellow coat as

1746
01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:28,040
Speaker 3: a rookie and and how happy go lucky. He seemed

1747
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:31,479
Speaker 3: to be his critical self analysis after his first year

1748
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:33,800
Speaker 3: last year where he said, my year was trash and

1749
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:35,679
Speaker 3: how you know, what do you do to get better?

1750
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:40,280
Speaker 3: And then to have him come out and continue to struggle. Uh,

1751
01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:42,680
Speaker 3: and then at one time like and we would have

1752
01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:47,120
Speaker 3: one to have some moments, have some moments and then

1753
01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:49,720
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, have it kind of evaporate.

1754
01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:51,600
Speaker 11: To me.

1755
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:56,040
Speaker 3: It it's Keon, it's not Josh, it's not Joe Brady,

1756
01:32:56,360 --> 01:33:00,200
Speaker 3: it's not Sean McDermott. It's none of the it's on

1757
01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:04,639
Speaker 3: and I know this too. The development team here inside

1758
01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:07,160
Speaker 3: the building where they try to get these guys to

1759
01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:09,240
Speaker 3: thrive in the environment. That's what the culture is and

1760
01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:11,559
Speaker 3: that's one of the reasons they're so successful because they

1761
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:15,080
Speaker 3: spend time away from the field with these guys finding

1762
01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:16,680
Speaker 3: out what makes them tick and how they're you know,

1763
01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:21,280
Speaker 3: what they can do. That's a really interesting question as

1764
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:26,800
Speaker 3: to why Keon Coleman is having the season he's having.

1765
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:31,759
Speaker 3: That's a really interesting question. There are probably people, probably

1766
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:33,519
Speaker 3: more than a few people in this building who have

1767
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:35,720
Speaker 3: a pretty good idea why we don't know that. We

1768
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:37,840
Speaker 3: don't know what it is though, we don't know what

1769
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:42,360
Speaker 3: it is, and he got deactivated healthy last week, there's

1770
01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:42,920
Speaker 3: something in that.

1771
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Speaker 2: Ye got to take a break here. When we come back,

1772
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:48,200
Speaker 2: we're going to be joined by my broadcast partner on

1773
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Speaker 2: The Bills Radio Network, former Bill Center Eric Wood, the

1774
01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:55,120
Speaker 2: Bill's radio color analyst, gives us his thoughts on yesterday's performance.

1775
01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:57,600
Speaker 2: When we return, you're on a Buffalo victory Monday on

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Speaker 1: Him This is One Bills Live presented by Calida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we are our number three on a

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Speaker 2: Buffalo victory Monday. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you and

1780
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 2: joining us now as he does after every Bill's game.

1781
01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:51,920
Speaker 2: Is my broadcast partner on the Bills Radio Network, color

1782
01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:54,320
Speaker 2: analyst Eric Wood, also former Center and host of The

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Speaker 2: eats like a meal. All right, Eric, So we had

1789
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:21,080
Speaker 2: heard from fans for the last three weeks this team's

1790
01:35:21,080 --> 01:35:23,000
Speaker 2: got to get off to a faster start. They've got

1791
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:25,080
Speaker 2: to get off to a faster start. Well, the offense

1792
01:35:25,160 --> 01:35:28,280
Speaker 2: does that to the tune of three touchdown, drives stakes

1793
01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:31,120
Speaker 2: themselves to a ten point lead. But then it goes

1794
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:33,920
Speaker 2: up and smoking the second half and the defense has

1795
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:35,640
Speaker 2: to close this game out for them. What did you

1796
01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:39,120
Speaker 2: make of the flip in terms of the performance.

1797
01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:43,679
Speaker 16: Yeah, after the first three possessions, they score on all three,

1798
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:46,000
Speaker 16: all three rushing touchdowns.

1799
01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:47,640
Speaker 11: And you assume this is how the game's gonna go.

1800
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Speaker 16: You know, you got a Cleveland team that's eliminated from

1801
01:35:50,720 --> 01:35:55,320
Speaker 16: the playoffs, you got a majority Bills contingent in the stands,

1802
01:35:55,360 --> 01:35:56,960
Speaker 16: and here we go. We're gonna run away with it.

1803
01:35:57,120 --> 01:36:00,320
Speaker 16: And give Cleveland credit. They stuck around and they're dese

1804
01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:03,679
Speaker 16: stepped up. And whether that was you know, a lack

1805
01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:07,439
Speaker 16: of execution on our end or them, you know, starting

1806
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:10,800
Speaker 16: to make some plays defensively, give them credit because you know,

1807
01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:13,719
Speaker 16: going the final possession of the first half, the Bills

1808
01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:15,559
Speaker 16: get the ball back, they're sitting with a second to one,

1809
01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:17,280
Speaker 16: and then go all the way back to their own

1810
01:36:17,680 --> 01:36:19,559
Speaker 16: one yard line, end up going three and out.

1811
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:21,439
Speaker 11: There, they go three and out their next possession.

1812
01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:23,600
Speaker 16: They go three and out the following possession, but it

1813
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:26,360
Speaker 16: led to a field goal based upon the interception, and

1814
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:28,720
Speaker 16: you got to turnover downs and then you got to

1815
01:36:28,760 --> 01:36:32,000
Speaker 16: three and out in another turnover on downs. So Cleveland

1816
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:36,360
Speaker 16: defense was able to completely shut down this Bill's offense

1817
01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:38,800
Speaker 16: starting with that last drive in the first half.

1818
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:41,240
Speaker 11: Now, some of it was self inflicted.

1819
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:44,240
Speaker 16: You could point back to four drops and a misfire,

1820
01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:46,639
Speaker 16: which would make Josh Allen's passing numbers look a whole

1821
01:36:46,640 --> 01:36:49,040
Speaker 16: lot different. You got the Dawson Knox play in the

1822
01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:52,360
Speaker 16: end zone, you got the overthrow to Shakir Dalton, kin

1823
01:36:52,479 --> 01:36:56,240
Speaker 16: Kaid's almost catch maybe was a catch with that front

1824
01:36:56,320 --> 01:36:59,400
Speaker 16: Clee Cleat hitting first play of the second half, they

1825
01:36:59,439 --> 01:37:02,000
Speaker 16: go to a player Actually, James Cook drops it, I mean,

1826
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:05,000
Speaker 16: and then you have the Brandon Cooks drop down the field.

1827
01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:07,400
Speaker 16: And it's a much different day if you don't make

1828
01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:10,680
Speaker 16: those five ish mistakes. And I'm not going to call

1829
01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:14,120
Speaker 16: the one on the Kinkaid mistake, but those five mishaps

1830
01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:17,960
Speaker 16: lead to a very poor Dave throwing the football, and

1831
01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:19,920
Speaker 16: it gets you off script when that happens, and it

1832
01:37:20,040 --> 01:37:23,000
Speaker 16: leads to turnover on downs. And so when you look

1833
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:26,519
Speaker 16: at it offensively, the game plan seem to be we're

1834
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:29,599
Speaker 16: not going to let Miles Garrett get the sack record

1835
01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:30,160
Speaker 16: in this game.

1836
01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:31,640
Speaker 11: And they succeeded in that.

1837
01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:35,479
Speaker 16: Maybe took it a little too far with making sure

1838
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:38,280
Speaker 16: that they were getting the ball out of Josh's hands quickly.

1839
01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:42,760
Speaker 16: And you know they through play action on forty eight

1840
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:45,559
Speaker 16: percent of their passes. Now I believe they only had

1841
01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:48,680
Speaker 16: twenty one total dropbacks and part of that's due to

1842
01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:51,280
Speaker 16: Cleveland being able to stay on the field and win

1843
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:53,679
Speaker 16: the time of possession by over ten minutes. The Bills

1844
01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:57,639
Speaker 16: only had fifty offensive plays. Generally, you're looking at sixty

1845
01:37:57,720 --> 01:38:01,479
Speaker 16: five seventy plays in the football game. And so, you know,

1846
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:05,719
Speaker 16: hot start by this Bills offense, slower start by the defense.

1847
01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:09,240
Speaker 16: But again the defense forces two turnovers and steps up

1848
01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:10,559
Speaker 16: when we need them to in the second half.

1849
01:38:10,840 --> 01:38:14,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and in the second half the defense did step

1850
01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:18,759
Speaker 3: it up, and really at the end where the Bills

1851
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:21,960
Speaker 3: had you know, the possessions come down at the end

1852
01:38:21,960 --> 01:38:23,439
Speaker 3: of the game, and we talked about this a little

1853
01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:26,840
Speaker 3: earlier where the Cleveland comes out with a chance to

1854
01:38:27,800 --> 01:38:29,720
Speaker 3: make it again, they just kicked a field goal. The

1855
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:31,599
Speaker 3: next time they get it back, there's seven minutes left

1856
01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:34,000
Speaker 3: in the game. They go four plays and out, they

1857
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:36,439
Speaker 3: turn it over on downs with the that's the sack

1858
01:38:36,560 --> 01:38:39,120
Speaker 3: with the first sack by Rousseau on the fourth down,

1859
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:43,360
Speaker 3: and then they get the ball back again with two

1860
01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:47,280
Speaker 3: forty seven to go, four plays again minus eleven yards,

1861
01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:48,720
Speaker 3: they got a punt it away and they never get

1862
01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:54,040
Speaker 3: the football back. The defense really played, really played well

1863
01:38:54,200 --> 01:38:55,800
Speaker 3: in the second half. I mean they did give up

1864
01:38:55,880 --> 01:38:58,519
Speaker 3: ten points, no question about it. But man Oman, at

1865
01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:01,439
Speaker 3: the end of that game, you know, you really never

1866
01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:04,439
Speaker 3: felt threatened by the way the offense of Cleveland was playing,

1867
01:39:04,479 --> 01:39:06,320
Speaker 3: even though they had a touchdown in the second half.

1868
01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:10,760
Speaker 16: Yeah, it looked like they adapted to what Cleveland was doing,

1869
01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:13,040
Speaker 16: which is kind of a theme of this Bill's defense.

1870
01:39:13,120 --> 01:39:16,160
Speaker 16: Early on in the game, they were attacking us downhill

1871
01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:18,519
Speaker 16: with Judkins, and we did a great job with him

1872
01:39:18,560 --> 01:39:21,240
Speaker 16: before he got injured. He was right around three yards

1873
01:39:21,280 --> 01:39:23,360
Speaker 16: of carry when he went out of the game. But

1874
01:39:23,520 --> 01:39:26,920
Speaker 16: a lot of their passing was simply checkdowns. We were,

1875
01:39:27,240 --> 01:39:29,479
Speaker 16: you know, kind of bailing in our zones, bailing in

1876
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:31,920
Speaker 16: our coverage, saying we're not gonna get beat over the top.

1877
01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:33,280
Speaker 16: We're not going to give up the big play. You

1878
01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:36,040
Speaker 16: can't put together these long drives, so we allowed a

1879
01:39:36,120 --> 01:39:38,880
Speaker 16: lot of checkdowns to the tune of shador Standers starting

1880
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:42,280
Speaker 16: the game a perfect eight for eight, and then they

1881
01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:44,200
Speaker 16: got a couple and you know, they ran the reverse,

1882
01:39:44,240 --> 01:39:46,080
Speaker 16: they got an end around, So they were attacking the

1883
01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:49,080
Speaker 16: edges of the defense, making us stay honest with the

1884
01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:52,200
Speaker 16: runs up the middle with Judkins and you know sor

1885
01:39:52,280 --> 01:39:54,679
Speaker 16: Sanders on those flacture rollouts got us a couple times,

1886
01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:57,639
Speaker 16: and so to be in the second half or even

1887
01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:00,439
Speaker 16: kind of towards the end of the first half, the

1888
01:40:00,520 --> 01:40:03,640
Speaker 16: game plan changes at that point and it becomes, all right,

1889
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:05,960
Speaker 16: let's not give him these checkdowns now, it's not given

1890
01:40:06,040 --> 01:40:08,080
Speaker 16: these play act of rollouts because he's not beating us

1891
01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:11,559
Speaker 16: down the field. He looks confused when he's staring down

1892
01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:14,400
Speaker 16: the field past these checkdowns, and so it was a

1893
01:40:14,439 --> 01:40:17,559
Speaker 16: great adjustment. You know, Cleveland, you know, some of their

1894
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:19,920
Speaker 16: biggest plays in the second half and kind of towards

1895
01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:21,960
Speaker 16: the end of the first half were screens that were

1896
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:25,080
Speaker 16: timely calls based upon our blitzes. But other than that,

1897
01:40:26,120 --> 01:40:29,560
Speaker 16: the defense really came alive. Give Greg Gruzzo credit. He

1898
01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:34,920
Speaker 16: rushed the passer extremely well yesterday, dial Walker, using his frame,

1899
01:40:35,080 --> 01:40:37,920
Speaker 16: understanding that Chandor's not gonna sit there with the ball.

1900
01:40:37,960 --> 01:40:40,960
Speaker 16: He's trying to get to these checkdowns, a couple tip passes,

1901
01:40:41,479 --> 01:40:43,799
Speaker 16: and using his length well with the line of scrimmage.

1902
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:46,200
Speaker 16: And then I thought Matt Malano at the second level

1903
01:40:46,280 --> 01:40:48,559
Speaker 16: and Jordan Poyer at the third level of the defense

1904
01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:52,840
Speaker 16: played extremely well yesterday, very physical. One of the best

1905
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:55,800
Speaker 16: plays kind of a sneaky four point play early in

1906
01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:56,120
Speaker 16: the game.

1907
01:40:56,880 --> 01:41:01,519
Speaker 11: Cleveland's got first and goal from the four and it's

1908
01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:02,439
Speaker 11: one on one in the hole.

1909
01:41:02,680 --> 01:41:07,240
Speaker 16: Judkins versus Jordan Poyer and he sticks them, which then

1910
01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:10,120
Speaker 16: makes Cleveland feel like we got to throw the football

1911
01:41:10,160 --> 01:41:11,600
Speaker 16: and they end up settling for a field goal on

1912
01:41:11,680 --> 01:41:15,960
Speaker 16: that possession. Was really pleased and excited about the performance

1913
01:41:16,040 --> 01:41:19,040
Speaker 16: of Milano and Poyer and that's that's that's two in

1914
01:41:19,080 --> 01:41:21,360
Speaker 16: a row for Milano where he stepped up in a

1915
01:41:21,439 --> 01:41:22,559
Speaker 16: big way for this defense.

1916
01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:25,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Poyer probably made a touchdown saving tackle along

1917
01:41:25,960 --> 01:41:30,200
Speaker 2: the Brown sideline later in that game as well. Eric,

1918
01:41:30,320 --> 01:41:32,560
Speaker 2: I'm just going to try to adopt the perspective of

1919
01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:35,679
Speaker 2: a Bills fan here. I think fans were very excited

1920
01:41:35,720 --> 01:41:38,240
Speaker 2: when they saw Joey Bosa get signed, knowing that it

1921
01:41:38,320 --> 01:41:40,960
Speaker 2: should free up Greg Russo on the other side in

1922
01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:44,599
Speaker 2: pass rushing situations. I think people envisioned a double digit

1923
01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:48,400
Speaker 2: sack season potentially for Rousseau, you know, knowing the attention

1924
01:41:48,520 --> 01:41:51,599
Speaker 2: Bosa would get on the other side. That hasn't manifested itself.

1925
01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:54,200
Speaker 2: But the game he played yesterday I think was what

1926
01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:58,360
Speaker 2: people thought they would get from him. For the balance

1927
01:41:58,439 --> 01:42:01,479
Speaker 2: of the season, and he's been healthy most of the year.

1928
01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:06,639
Speaker 2: Why do you think it took until yesterday to kind

1929
01:42:06,680 --> 01:42:09,960
Speaker 2: of see that from Greg Russo with as dominant as

1930
01:42:10,080 --> 01:42:12,439
Speaker 2: he was, not only at the very end of that game.

1931
01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:13,840
Speaker 2: I mean, you look at his stat line at the

1932
01:42:13,920 --> 01:42:15,439
Speaker 2: end of the day. It's two and a half sacks,

1933
01:42:15,560 --> 01:42:20,160
Speaker 2: it's seven quarterback hits, it's nine quarterback pressures. Why did

1934
01:42:20,200 --> 01:42:22,800
Speaker 2: it take until week sixteen to see that, you know,

1935
01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:24,320
Speaker 2: pop out of the box.

1936
01:42:26,040 --> 01:42:29,280
Speaker 16: Yeah, I would say part of it is both. Ever

1937
01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:32,559
Speaker 16: since he heard his wrist hasn't been as effective rushing

1938
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:33,360
Speaker 16: the passer, and then.

1939
01:42:33,280 --> 01:42:34,759
Speaker 11: Of course he had the hamstring injury.

1940
01:42:35,200 --> 01:42:39,160
Speaker 16: And then I would say, when the interior rushers aren't

1941
01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:42,720
Speaker 16: top end rushers, you don't have that oliver for you know,

1942
01:42:43,080 --> 01:42:46,760
Speaker 16: most of this season. You know, even a you know,

1943
01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:52,000
Speaker 16: Dwayne Carter, maybe TJ. Sanders if he wasn't forced to

1944
01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:54,840
Speaker 16: play on the edge. You just don't Michael hoy going out.

1945
01:42:55,200 --> 01:42:59,120
Speaker 16: You don't have the interior rushers creating push within the pocket,

1946
01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:02,920
Speaker 16: and oftentimes it allows the quarterback, you know, room to

1947
01:43:03,040 --> 01:43:06,640
Speaker 16: step up and step up inside the pocket. You know,

1948
01:43:06,760 --> 01:43:09,040
Speaker 16: we talk about out here all the time. Generally it

1949
01:43:09,120 --> 01:43:12,560
Speaker 16: takes two people to create a sack. Rarely in the

1950
01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:15,280
Speaker 16: league does a guy smoke someone so bad that it's

1951
01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:18,759
Speaker 16: simply him getting the sack. Usually that's a timely blitz

1952
01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:21,880
Speaker 16: that a quarterback doesn't see. And then most of the

1953
01:43:21,960 --> 01:43:26,719
Speaker 16: time Brussou's rushing, you know, to the quarterback's front side.

1954
01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:30,080
Speaker 16: Yesterday he was rushing a bunch to Chador's backside. So

1955
01:43:30,720 --> 01:43:34,080
Speaker 16: you combine all that. Look, Greg Brusso's got our highest

1956
01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:37,280
Speaker 16: pressure percentage on the team. He's been great against the run,

1957
01:43:37,360 --> 01:43:41,840
Speaker 16: he's heavy handed, he consistently pushes pockets against mobile quarterbacks.

1958
01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:44,960
Speaker 16: So he's done plenty of good this year. And hopefully

1959
01:43:45,200 --> 01:43:47,479
Speaker 16: with a guy like that who plays hard each and

1960
01:43:47,560 --> 01:43:50,120
Speaker 16: every week, you know, you just hope those numbers come.

1961
01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:53,479
Speaker 16: They did yesterday and hopefully they continue to come the

1962
01:43:53,520 --> 01:43:54,040
Speaker 16: rest of the year.

1963
01:43:54,080 --> 01:43:57,559
Speaker 3: Obviously, so the national narrative, I think Shador Sanders has

1964
01:43:57,640 --> 01:44:00,400
Speaker 3: got to be the most talked about fifth round draft

1965
01:44:00,439 --> 01:44:02,680
Speaker 3: pick maybe in league history. What did you think of

1966
01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:03,320
Speaker 3: him yesterday?

1967
01:44:05,600 --> 01:44:07,160
Speaker 16: You know, I thought early on he did a good

1968
01:44:07,240 --> 01:44:09,800
Speaker 16: job of taking what the defense gave him, which was,

1969
01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:13,240
Speaker 16: you know, those play action rollouts in the checkdowns over

1970
01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:15,120
Speaker 16: the middle of the field as we dropped a little

1971
01:44:15,160 --> 01:44:17,760
Speaker 16: deeper in our zones. And you know, I think he

1972
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:20,080
Speaker 16: does have good mobility in the pocket. He ran for

1973
01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:23,120
Speaker 16: his career high yesterday against US. Generally you see him

1974
01:44:23,560 --> 01:44:25,920
Speaker 16: use some of his escapability in the pocket to try

1975
01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:27,320
Speaker 16: and create bigger plays down the field.

1976
01:44:27,439 --> 01:44:29,559
Speaker 11: Yesterday he was looking to take off and run.

1977
01:44:30,280 --> 01:44:35,400
Speaker 16: So, you know, all that considered, I was fairly impressed

1978
01:44:35,439 --> 01:44:37,720
Speaker 16: with the way that he managed the game and kept

1979
01:44:37,800 --> 01:44:41,719
Speaker 16: them in it. Do I what if I'm a Cleveland

1980
01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:44,200
Speaker 16: Browns fan, Am I excited about hitching my wagons to

1981
01:44:44,280 --> 01:44:45,639
Speaker 16: sdor Sanders for the future.

1982
01:44:46,160 --> 01:44:48,600
Speaker 11: I'll say no. I always say in this league, you

1983
01:44:48,680 --> 01:44:50,120
Speaker 11: either have a quarterback that can win you a.

1984
01:44:50,120 --> 01:44:53,160
Speaker 16: Super Bowl or adult and until you find one, you

1985
01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:54,960
Speaker 16: should be trying to find that guy.

1986
01:44:55,320 --> 01:44:58,640
Speaker 11: And to me, he doesn't seem like it now. You

1987
01:44:58,720 --> 01:44:59,320
Speaker 11: know who knows.

1988
01:45:00,160 --> 01:45:00,720
Speaker 3: You give him a.

1989
01:45:00,720 --> 01:45:03,920
Speaker 16: Full offseason of being the guy all of OTA's, all

1990
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:06,720
Speaker 16: of training camp, maybe he can develop it.

1991
01:45:06,840 --> 01:45:09,320
Speaker 11: Right now, I don't see him as the long term

1992
01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:10,200
Speaker 11: answer in Cleveland.

1993
01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:13,080
Speaker 2: You touched on it already, Eric, just a little bit

1994
01:45:13,240 --> 01:45:17,360
Speaker 2: about why perhaps the production on the outside from the

1995
01:45:17,439 --> 01:45:21,599
Speaker 2: receiving corps wasn't there just four targets total, two catches

1996
01:45:21,640 --> 01:45:29,720
Speaker 2: for twenty three yards between Shavers, Palmer, and Cooks. We

1997
01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:32,840
Speaker 2: see the shuffling of the deck at the receiver position.

1998
01:45:32,920 --> 01:45:36,000
Speaker 2: They now have seven receivers on the roster, counting Hardman.

1999
01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:40,200
Speaker 2: What do you anticipate the conversations are like this week

2000
01:45:40,720 --> 01:45:43,839
Speaker 2: for the offensive staff as they prepare for an Eagles

2001
01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:46,840
Speaker 2: defense that does have a physical secondary.

2002
01:45:48,720 --> 01:45:51,160
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think you're looking for someone who can make

2003
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:53,519
Speaker 16: plays on the outside. And who Josh trust. I mean,

2004
01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:56,920
Speaker 16: he doesn't give his guys many chances down the field.

2005
01:45:57,520 --> 01:45:59,320
Speaker 16: You know, we saw, you know, if you watch Sunday

2006
01:45:59,360 --> 01:46:01,920
Speaker 16: Night Football last night, drag May gave his guys down

2007
01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:05,000
Speaker 16: the field a few chances that you know, Josh doesn't

2008
01:46:05,080 --> 01:46:08,400
Speaker 16: necessarily take. Now, some of that's, you know, the way

2009
01:46:08,520 --> 01:46:10,920
Speaker 16: we play offense and understanding that most of the time

2010
01:46:11,080 --> 01:46:13,800
Speaker 16: we can bully ball teams, and you know a lot

2011
01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:16,759
Speaker 16: of that comes with thirteen personnel or twenty two personnel

2012
01:46:16,840 --> 01:46:19,080
Speaker 16: where we might only have one receiver on the field

2013
01:46:19,120 --> 01:46:22,080
Speaker 16: at a time. But you know, to me, you know,

2014
01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:24,840
Speaker 16: it's it's got it's finding guys that Josh will have

2015
01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:26,519
Speaker 16: confidence that can win down the field and then go

2016
01:46:26,640 --> 01:46:29,400
Speaker 16: make those plays, and I've loved the fact that Brandon

2017
01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:31,479
Speaker 16: Cooks has shown you can separate on some of these

2018
01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:34,880
Speaker 16: deeper play actions. But you know, you go zero for

2019
01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:38,519
Speaker 16: two in costly moments for this team. Won on the

2020
01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:40,439
Speaker 16: first possession of the game, first play of the game

2021
01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:43,479
Speaker 16: against the Patriots, and then you know you're looking to

2022
01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:46,320
Speaker 16: get back in rhythm yesterday offensively, and you drop that

2023
01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:49,559
Speaker 16: one along the sideline. You know, it's tough to get

2024
01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:52,200
Speaker 16: those guys opportunities, and for a quarterback, it's hard to

2025
01:46:52,240 --> 01:46:55,240
Speaker 16: go back to that, and so for me, it's finding

2026
01:46:55,320 --> 01:46:58,479
Speaker 16: those guys. I'm a big fan of Gabe Davis and

2027
01:46:58,600 --> 01:47:00,400
Speaker 16: I would love to see him back out there. He's

2028
01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:02,040
Speaker 16: the guy that does all the dirty work. But we've

2029
01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:05,080
Speaker 16: also seen him explode in this offense. And I understand

2030
01:47:05,520 --> 01:47:08,240
Speaker 16: it's not necessarily a week the week consistently where he's

2031
01:47:08,280 --> 01:47:11,120
Speaker 16: gonna grab you over one hundred every week. But to me,

2032
01:47:11,680 --> 01:47:14,280
Speaker 16: when you're looking for answers, I've seen him do it,

2033
01:47:14,400 --> 01:47:16,560
Speaker 16: and I've seen him do it in Big Melvin's. I

2034
01:47:16,600 --> 01:47:18,519
Speaker 16: would love to see him get a little ramp up

2035
01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:20,760
Speaker 16: time into the playoffs so you could see what you

2036
01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:21,920
Speaker 16: got it in thirteen.

2037
01:47:22,320 --> 01:47:26,040
Speaker 3: Speaking of guys who you've seen do it. Yesterday was

2038
01:47:26,160 --> 01:47:29,320
Speaker 3: kind of you know, particularly on the defensive side, was

2039
01:47:29,439 --> 01:47:33,080
Speaker 3: kind of got splashy plays from the old guys. Jordan Poyer,

2040
01:47:33,720 --> 01:47:35,280
Speaker 3: you know, even Greg Russeau if you're going to go

2041
01:47:35,400 --> 01:47:40,599
Speaker 3: that route, but Tredavius Milano, Poyer, day Quon, day Quon.

2042
01:47:41,080 --> 01:47:44,920
Speaker 3: Uh so you got and we laugh when they're going

2043
01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:46,519
Speaker 3: through this and we're bringing these guys back for the

2044
01:47:46,560 --> 01:47:49,360
Speaker 3: practice squad, and everybody's laugh is like all these old guys.

2045
01:47:50,040 --> 01:47:53,559
Speaker 3: Everyone's that games like this are the reason they bring

2046
01:47:53,680 --> 01:47:55,960
Speaker 3: guys like Jordan Poyer back in the practice squad, gave

2047
01:47:56,040 --> 01:47:58,559
Speaker 3: Davis back to the practice squad. All these guys get

2048
01:47:58,640 --> 01:48:01,040
Speaker 3: brought back because they've proven in moments when you really

2049
01:48:01,080 --> 01:48:06,400
Speaker 3: need him, they got something. Is this kind of like

2050
01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:11,040
Speaker 3: cool off the kind of eye rolls when the Bills

2051
01:48:11,120 --> 01:48:13,600
Speaker 3: do bring old guys back. When you get guys like

2052
01:48:13,680 --> 01:48:16,600
Speaker 3: Tredavius White and Poyer and all these guys contributing and

2053
01:48:17,320 --> 01:48:18,040
Speaker 3: games you gotta have.

2054
01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:22,200
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think there's a balance. You know, you got

2055
01:48:22,280 --> 01:48:24,080
Speaker 16: guys that you know you could trust to put it

2056
01:48:24,200 --> 01:48:27,080
Speaker 16: in a pinch. If Taylor rap starts this season healthy

2057
01:48:27,120 --> 01:48:29,080
Speaker 16: and plays at the level he played last year. I

2058
01:48:29,120 --> 01:48:31,519
Speaker 16: don't think we see Jordan Poyer nearly as much in

2059
01:48:31,640 --> 01:48:33,719
Speaker 16: action this year. Maybe he's still on the practice squad

2060
01:48:34,160 --> 01:48:37,320
Speaker 16: waiting for his moment. But you have injuries at the

2061
01:48:37,360 --> 01:48:39,960
Speaker 16: safety position. You got a young guy playing next to

2062
01:48:40,040 --> 01:48:43,120
Speaker 16: him in Coole Bishop been at the back end of

2063
01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:46,519
Speaker 16: that defense. He's played a lot better since Jordan Porter's

2064
01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:48,600
Speaker 16: back there, and you could trust him. And you know,

2065
01:48:48,760 --> 01:48:51,000
Speaker 16: you got guys like day Kwan Jones who you know

2066
01:48:51,080 --> 01:48:52,840
Speaker 16: you could trust. You know you could trust him to

2067
01:48:52,840 --> 01:48:54,640
Speaker 16: play the one technique. Is he a world beater? I

2068
01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:57,800
Speaker 16: critiqued the interior pass rush earlier at the segment. I

2069
01:48:57,840 --> 01:48:59,479
Speaker 16: don't want to talk out of both sides of my mouth,

2070
01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:02,000
Speaker 16: but he's a guy that you can consistently rely on

2071
01:49:02,479 --> 01:49:05,200
Speaker 16: in the middle of that defense. And Trinaevius White has

2072
01:49:05,240 --> 01:49:07,960
Speaker 16: played really good football for this team. And if Max Harriston,

2073
01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:11,760
Speaker 16: if Harriston doesn't get hurt in training camp, maybe Trinavius

2074
01:49:11,800 --> 01:49:14,040
Speaker 16: doesn't play. But you bring it to Trenavius White because

2075
01:49:14,479 --> 01:49:17,080
Speaker 16: Max Harrison enters his knee before we get in pads

2076
01:49:17,520 --> 01:49:21,720
Speaker 16: in training camp, and he's forcing into action, and you know,

2077
01:49:21,880 --> 01:49:26,040
Speaker 16: Gave Davis is waiting in the reserves right now waiting

2078
01:49:26,160 --> 01:49:28,280
Speaker 16: to kind of get in the rhythm himself. So you

2079
01:49:28,360 --> 01:49:31,120
Speaker 16: got to balance it though, because you play that game

2080
01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:33,280
Speaker 16: of you know, one and two year rentals on guys

2081
01:49:33,320 --> 01:49:36,439
Speaker 16: you're comfortable with, you're not developing around them.

2082
01:49:36,560 --> 01:49:39,280
Speaker 11: So I do like the fact that there is a mix,

2083
01:49:39,400 --> 01:49:39,960
Speaker 11: especially on the.

2084
01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:42,600
Speaker 16: Defense side of the ball, with a youth movement with

2085
01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:44,719
Speaker 16: the experience and the guys that they trust.

2086
01:49:45,120 --> 01:49:47,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll have to see what Jordan Poyer's status

2087
01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:50,400
Speaker 2: is this week when Sean McDermot addresses the media later

2088
01:49:50,520 --> 01:49:52,760
Speaker 2: this afternoon, because he did leave the game late after

2089
01:49:52,840 --> 01:49:55,599
Speaker 2: that half sack that he shared with Rousseau and did

2090
01:49:55,680 --> 01:49:58,280
Speaker 2: not return, So that'll be an important one to keep

2091
01:49:58,280 --> 01:50:00,760
Speaker 2: an eye on coming to town.

2092
01:50:00,920 --> 01:50:01,080
Speaker 13: Eric.

2093
01:50:01,160 --> 01:50:03,960
Speaker 2: They've had their own share of problems, but their ground

2094
01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:06,400
Speaker 2: game has found some traction the last couple of weeks

2095
01:50:06,479 --> 01:50:10,360
Speaker 2: with Saquon Barkley and knowing that the Bills run defense again.

2096
01:50:11,240 --> 01:50:15,200
Speaker 2: Tackling was an issue yesterday at times, although the two

2097
01:50:15,240 --> 01:50:17,640
Speaker 2: safeties did a pretty good job to save some touchdowns

2098
01:50:17,680 --> 01:50:20,280
Speaker 2: and keep them off the board with some touchdown saving tackles.

2099
01:50:21,080 --> 01:50:25,080
Speaker 2: What are you anticipating from the Eagles this week in

2100
01:50:25,240 --> 01:50:27,519
Speaker 2: light of their run game, finding some traction again.

2101
01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:31,600
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think they're gonna Every team's gonna test this

2102
01:50:31,720 --> 01:50:32,840
Speaker 16: Bills team on the ground.

2103
01:50:33,320 --> 01:50:34,800
Speaker 11: It's that's the fact of the matter.

2104
01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:37,519
Speaker 16: When you have when they look at the analytics, when

2105
01:50:37,520 --> 01:50:40,320
Speaker 16: their analytics teams come into the room at the beginning

2106
01:50:40,320 --> 01:50:42,799
Speaker 16: of the week, and you know, preach to the coaching staff.

2107
01:50:42,840 --> 01:50:46,879
Speaker 16: Here's their tendencies, Here's where they rank in certain areas,

2108
01:50:46,960 --> 01:50:49,680
Speaker 16: Here's where they struggle with certain formations.

2109
01:50:49,720 --> 01:50:51,719
Speaker 11: You're going to test those. It's a copycat league.

2110
01:50:51,800 --> 01:50:55,559
Speaker 16: And you know this, this Eagles team offensive line hasn't

2111
01:50:55,600 --> 01:51:00,400
Speaker 16: been It wasn't what it was last year. Saquon barkleys

2112
01:51:00,479 --> 01:51:06,000
Speaker 16: of lost yardage plays. This year, they tried to run

2113
01:51:06,040 --> 01:51:09,280
Speaker 16: it more under center lately to get them going more downhill,

2114
01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:14,240
Speaker 16: which then takes the Reid option away from Jalen Hurts

2115
01:51:14,280 --> 01:51:14,639
Speaker 16: back there.

2116
01:51:14,760 --> 01:51:16,960
Speaker 11: But you know, this Eagles offense is gonna test.

2117
01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:19,760
Speaker 16: They're gonna test the Bills on the ground, and it's

2118
01:51:19,760 --> 01:51:21,840
Speaker 16: gonna be a big boy football game. The Eagles have

2119
01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:24,200
Speaker 16: a lot to play for, you know, obviously, as well

2120
01:51:24,200 --> 01:51:26,800
Speaker 16: as the Bills trying to stay alive in the division race.

2121
01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:29,200
Speaker 16: We'll see if they clinch a playoff spot here tonight

2122
01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:32,400
Speaker 16: between the Colts and forty nine ers. But you know,

2123
01:51:32,520 --> 01:51:36,120
Speaker 16: the Bills, if someone could fight, there should be a

2124
01:51:36,200 --> 01:51:37,720
Speaker 16: fight for that five seed. I don't want to be

2125
01:51:37,760 --> 01:51:41,280
Speaker 16: disrespectful to Pittsburgh just looking at you know the result

2126
01:51:41,439 --> 01:51:43,879
Speaker 16: of the game already this season when you played Pittsburgh,

2127
01:51:44,680 --> 01:51:47,320
Speaker 16: that would if we're not gonna win the division, you're

2128
01:51:47,360 --> 01:51:48,880
Speaker 16: trying to fight to get that five seed.

2129
01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:50,439
Speaker 11: So it's gonna be a fun one.

2130
01:51:50,560 --> 01:51:52,280
Speaker 16: You know, the Bills were a couple of plays away

2131
01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:54,720
Speaker 16: from playing them in the Super Bowl last year, and

2132
01:51:55,320 --> 01:51:57,479
Speaker 16: you know this could have potentially been the rematch.

2133
01:51:58,120 --> 01:52:01,519
Speaker 3: What and what difference doesn't make if any and I

2134
01:52:01,560 --> 01:52:03,960
Speaker 3: think it does. But Shaq Thompson went out of the

2135
01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:06,200
Speaker 3: game of the Bills with a neck injury and their

2136
01:52:06,280 --> 01:52:11,759
Speaker 3: run defense evaporated. And Shack has made a big difference

2137
01:52:12,160 --> 01:52:14,320
Speaker 3: up front for this team, and now you know he

2138
01:52:14,439 --> 01:52:16,240
Speaker 3: went down with a neck injury in this Cleveland game.

2139
01:52:16,280 --> 01:52:19,120
Speaker 3: How important is Shaq Thompson to the future success of

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Speaker 3: this club? Yeah?

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Speaker 16: I think he brings He brings a physicality, he brings

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01:52:26,280 --> 01:52:30,760
Speaker 16: an attitude to the defense. Trelbertard has his strengths as well,

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01:52:31,000 --> 01:52:34,280
Speaker 16: But you know, when you look at the size in

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01:52:34,400 --> 01:52:36,799
Speaker 16: this type of play that he brings to the table,

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01:52:37,000 --> 01:52:40,559
Speaker 16: and you look at the weaknesses of this defense, you're

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01:52:40,600 --> 01:52:42,839
Speaker 16: gonna miss a Shack Thompson if he's not in the lineup.

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Speaker 16: So you know, I think there's a mix of linebackers

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01:52:46,640 --> 01:52:49,560
Speaker 16: that can do a variety of things. Playing in the

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01:52:49,640 --> 01:52:52,240
Speaker 16: run game has proven to be a strength of Shaq

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01:52:52,320 --> 01:52:57,080
Speaker 16: Thompson shoot. I remember playing against him back in twenty seventeen.

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01:52:57,600 --> 01:52:59,320
Speaker 16: He was one of those guys in an offensive lineman

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01:52:59,400 --> 01:53:02,240
Speaker 16: you take a bat angle where he's got your side,

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01:53:03,000 --> 01:53:05,680
Speaker 16: and your momento is not going towards you, towards him.

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01:53:05,720 --> 01:53:06,559
Speaker 11: You're getting planned.

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01:53:07,600 --> 01:53:12,040
Speaker 16: That's not necessarily how our other linebackers play. And like

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01:53:12,120 --> 01:53:14,599
Speaker 16: I said, there's effectively as to shoot. He played dex

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01:53:14,680 --> 01:53:17,040
Speaker 16: to Luke Keikley, who wasn't trying to touch an offensive

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01:53:17,080 --> 01:53:19,680
Speaker 16: lineman the entire game. That was if you could get

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01:53:19,720 --> 01:53:21,960
Speaker 16: your hands on him, good luck. But he was trying

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01:53:21,960 --> 01:53:24,080
Speaker 16: to avoid at all times and then you got shocked

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01:53:24,120 --> 01:53:26,599
Speaker 16: thumping you from one side and Thomas Davis from the other.

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Speaker 11: Shack Thompson is still that physical type of ballplayer.

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Speaker 13: Eric.

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Speaker 2: Thanks as always, we appreciate the time and we'll catch

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Speaker 2: up you this weekend.

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Speaker 11: YEP, sounds good. Merry Christmas, guys, and to everyone listening out.

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Speaker 2: There, Yeah, Merry Christmas to you and yours as well.

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Speaker 2: That's Eric wood, Bill's radio color analyst telling us his

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01:53:47,000 --> 01:53:50,360
Speaker 2: thoughts on the bills victory yesterday. We have to take

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Speaker 2: a break, but before we do, there is some breaking news,

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01:53:54,400 --> 01:53:57,360
Speaker 2: both of which concern the Kansas City Chiefs. The one

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01:53:58,000 --> 01:54:01,400
Speaker 2: is tied to the Bills with aaran injury to backup

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01:54:01,479 --> 01:54:04,240
Speaker 2: quarterback Gardner Minshew. He did not tear his acl but

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01:54:04,320 --> 01:54:08,120
Speaker 2: has a severe bone bruise on his knee. The Bills

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01:54:08,160 --> 01:54:11,479
Speaker 2: are losing their practice squad quarterback Shane bouchell who is

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01:54:11,520 --> 01:54:13,920
Speaker 2: going to sign and has signed with the Kansas City

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Speaker 2: Chiefs after passing a physical this morning. They're obviously down

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01:54:17,240 --> 01:54:19,719
Speaker 2: two quarterbacks who are going to miss time with knee injuries.

2179
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Speaker 2: Mahomes out for the year, Minshew out for the foreseeable future.

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01:54:23,560 --> 01:54:26,920
Speaker 2: They have signed Shane Bouschell off Buffalo's practice squad to

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Speaker 2: be either their starting or backup quarterback. We'll have to see.

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01:54:31,160 --> 01:54:33,840
Speaker 2: Bouchelle had been with the Chiefs in the twenty twenty

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01:54:33,920 --> 01:54:36,880
Speaker 2: one and twenty twenty two seasons, so he returns to

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs where he does have some familiarity with the

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Speaker 2: coaching staff. Meanwhile, the other breaking news, the Kansas City

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Speaker 2: Chiefs have informed administrative officials that they are going to

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01:54:47,160 --> 01:54:51,080
Speaker 2: announce their move from Missouri to Kansas today.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: That's according to sources who asked not to be named

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01:54:56,120 --> 01:54:59,280
Speaker 2: because they were not authorized to speak publicly. I heard

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01:54:59,320 --> 01:55:04,040
Speaker 2: rumblings about this yesterday in Cleveland at the Bills Browns

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Speaker 2: game that this was coming down, and the Kansas City

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Speaker 2: Star is now reporting that the Chiefs have informed administrative

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Speaker 2: officials that they are moving their team to the state

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01:55:13,960 --> 01:55:17,280
Speaker 2: of Kansas and a new stadium at some point in time.

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Speaker 2: They are going to be leaving Arrowhead.

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Speaker 3: Well, I knew they were going to leave Arrowhead. They

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01:55:22,280 --> 01:55:23,560
Speaker 3: were going to get a new stadium that was in

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Speaker 3: the work, so I thought all that the talk about

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01:55:27,640 --> 01:55:31,280
Speaker 3: moving the stadium across the river was posturing to get

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Speaker 3: a better deal from the Missouri government. Apparently not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So we'll see if and when the Chiefs confirmed

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01:55:39,520 --> 01:55:44,480
Speaker 2: that news. But the media outlets are reporting that out

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01:55:44,560 --> 01:55:49,720
Speaker 2: in Kansas City. So a big time change going forward

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Speaker 2: moving out of state. There is a little different because

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01:55:54,240 --> 01:55:55,240
Speaker 2: they're right on the border.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, it's a river running through the city in tent Well,

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Speaker 3: I'm not the center of town, but the western end

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Speaker 3: edge of town. And Kansas City, Kansas is a smaller

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Speaker 3: city than Kansas City, Missouri, although they're all one metropolitan area.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of open space on the Kansas side

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01:56:12,160 --> 01:56:18,280
Speaker 3: of the river. That's where the the NASCAR track is

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01:56:18,520 --> 01:56:23,520
Speaker 3: over there. It's pretty far east of the city. I'm sorry,

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01:56:23,760 --> 01:56:26,600
Speaker 3: pretty far west of the city, and so the stadium

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01:56:26,640 --> 01:56:28,920
Speaker 3: will may be out towards that way or whatever. But

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01:56:29,640 --> 01:56:34,640
Speaker 3: there's all kinds of open ground over there in that state.

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01:56:35,480 --> 01:56:40,040
Speaker 3: And you know, Kansas, it's gonna pony up.

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01:56:41,200 --> 01:56:44,120
Speaker 2: Apparently. We'll take a break here, but get back to

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Speaker 2: your phone calls when we return. On One Bills Live

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Speaker 2: presented by Collide Health, it's Buffalo Bills Radio time for

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Speaker 2: QB check In presented by the University of Wyoming. You're

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Speaker 2: ready for any field with the University of Wyoming a

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01:57:10,680 --> 01:57:15,040
Speaker 2: proud partner of the Buffalo Bills. Josh Allen somewhat of

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01:57:15,080 --> 01:57:19,160
Speaker 2: a pedestrian day Yesterday, twelve of nineteen, passing for one

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01:57:19,240 --> 01:57:22,920
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty yards no touchdowns, no interceptions. I believe

2226
01:57:22,960 --> 01:57:25,160
Speaker 2: it's only his second game this season where he did

2227
01:57:25,240 --> 01:57:27,560
Speaker 2: not account for an offensive touchdown, the other one being

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01:57:27,600 --> 01:57:30,960
Speaker 2: the Houston Texans game eighty three point two passer rating.

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01:57:31,000 --> 01:57:36,400
Speaker 2: Also had seven carries for seventeen rushing yards. Gonna get

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01:57:36,400 --> 01:57:38,040
Speaker 2: back to the phones here at eight o three zero

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01:57:38,120 --> 01:57:41,360
Speaker 2: five point fifty and to Ron in Elma. What you

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01:57:41,400 --> 01:57:43,600
Speaker 2: got first, Ron, just.

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Speaker 4: A quick question on the sack and how it's determined.

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01:57:48,240 --> 01:57:50,840
Speaker 4: What I'm basically referring to is Josh Allen, where he

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01:57:51,000 --> 01:57:53,200
Speaker 4: was doing a lot of running around trying to escape, right,

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01:57:53,400 --> 01:57:56,400
Speaker 4: I actually fell over by himself. Now the fellow on

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01:57:56,480 --> 01:57:59,400
Speaker 4: the one side of them actually touched them. Jarrett, who

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01:57:59,480 --> 01:58:01,440
Speaker 4: was on the other I'd never pull a finger on him.

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01:58:01,800 --> 01:58:04,480
Speaker 4: They originally gave the sack to the guy that touched

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Speaker 4: in which I understand. Then later on in the game

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01:58:07,520 --> 01:58:10,000
Speaker 4: they said, oh, we've updated this or it's an updated

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01:58:10,080 --> 01:58:11,680
Speaker 4: and Garrett gets a half a sack and the other

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01:58:11,720 --> 01:58:14,960
Speaker 4: guy only gets a half a sack. What determines a sack,

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01:58:15,680 --> 01:58:18,600
Speaker 4: especially if Garrett doesn't put his hand on him. I'm

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01:58:18,640 --> 01:58:20,760
Speaker 4: thinking they did that in the hopes that he would

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01:58:20,760 --> 01:58:24,040
Speaker 4: get a sack by himself to break the record later

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Speaker 4: in the game.

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Speaker 3: Act they don't take that. They're not doing that. What

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01:58:27,800 --> 01:58:32,200
Speaker 3: they will do is when Josh went down and tried

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01:58:32,240 --> 01:58:34,240
Speaker 3: to reach the football out of the end zone, they

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01:58:34,320 --> 01:58:39,000
Speaker 3: deemed him to be giving himself up and he was

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01:58:39,160 --> 01:58:43,200
Speaker 3: turning away from Miles when he did that. Miles is

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01:58:43,240 --> 01:58:46,360
Speaker 3: the one that scared him into turning around and falling down.

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01:58:46,960 --> 01:58:50,440
Speaker 3: So when Josh turned around fell down because of miles pursuit,

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Speaker 3: the other guy touched him, so they both got a

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01:58:52,360 --> 01:58:55,600
Speaker 3: half a sack. Miles is the one that forced Josh

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01:58:55,680 --> 01:58:58,680
Speaker 3: to go down, and he twisted his ankle and did

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01:58:58,720 --> 01:59:01,080
Speaker 3: all of that, and then the other guy came in

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01:59:01,160 --> 01:59:03,160
Speaker 3: and touched him. But Josh had given himself up, so

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01:59:03,240 --> 01:59:05,520
Speaker 3: when he gave himself up, nobody had touched him. So

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01:59:05,600 --> 01:59:07,280
Speaker 3: they gave a half sack to the two guys that

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01:59:07,320 --> 01:59:10,440
Speaker 3: are closest to him. JJ Watt had a long person

2263
01:59:10,720 --> 01:59:13,320
Speaker 3: conversation about this, and he was of the mind that

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01:59:13,360 --> 01:59:14,880
Speaker 3: they would give it to the guy who touched him,

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01:59:15,320 --> 01:59:17,360
Speaker 3: but then the league said, nah, he gave himself up

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01:59:17,400 --> 01:59:19,200
Speaker 3: when he was reaching the ball out of the end zone,

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01:59:19,440 --> 01:59:20,720
Speaker 3: and that's why they changed it.

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01:59:20,960 --> 01:59:25,240
Speaker 2: Just to get everybody identified properly. The sack was originally

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01:59:25,320 --> 01:59:31,640
Speaker 2: given to Mason Graham. Mason Graham was the guy that

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01:59:32,160 --> 01:59:37,520
Speaker 2: touched him initially after he went down right, and I

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01:59:37,600 --> 01:59:41,320
Speaker 2: believe Miles Garrett does touch him second, he does make

2272
01:59:41,440 --> 01:59:46,200
Speaker 2: contact with Josh before he helped him up. Mason Graham

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01:59:46,320 --> 01:59:49,720
Speaker 2: was given the sack initially. The sack was completely taken

2274
01:59:49,720 --> 01:59:52,400
Speaker 2: away from Mason Graham after reviewing the play. The reason

2275
01:59:52,480 --> 01:59:56,040
Speaker 2: why is the way it stated in the rules is

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01:59:56,120 --> 02:00:00,440
Speaker 2: if a quarterback gives himself up, part of a sack

2277
02:00:00,600 --> 02:00:03,120
Speaker 2: or the full sack is awarded to the player who

2278
02:00:03,320 --> 02:00:05,880
Speaker 2: was deemed to have threatened him and made him give

2279
02:00:05,960 --> 02:00:08,840
Speaker 2: himself up. That was deemed to be Alex Right number

2280
02:00:08,960 --> 02:00:12,120
Speaker 2: ninety one. After review of the play, you see Mason

2281
02:00:12,160 --> 02:00:15,160
Speaker 2: Graham coming in later and being the first to touch him.

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02:00:15,400 --> 02:00:19,360
Speaker 2: So on the initial stat recording of the play, Mason

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02:00:19,400 --> 02:00:22,480
Speaker 2: Graham's given the sack. On review, it's taken away from him.

2284
02:00:22,960 --> 02:00:25,080
Speaker 2: Half a sack is given to Alex Right, who never

2285
02:00:25,200 --> 02:00:27,840
Speaker 2: touches him but is deemed to be the player that

2286
02:00:28,120 --> 02:00:30,760
Speaker 2: forced Josh to give himself up, and then the other

2287
02:00:30,880 --> 02:00:34,160
Speaker 2: half was given to Miles Garrett, who touched him because

2288
02:00:34,240 --> 02:00:36,760
Speaker 2: Mason Graham was taken out of the ruling of the play.

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02:00:36,880 --> 02:00:39,320
Speaker 2: So because Miles Garrett touched him, second, he was given

2290
02:00:39,360 --> 02:00:40,160
Speaker 2: the other half sack.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where they came down on that's yeah. I

2292
02:00:44,480 --> 02:00:46,480
Speaker 3: thought Miles Garrett's the one who made him go down.

2293
02:00:46,520 --> 02:00:48,879
Speaker 3: I didn't think the other guy did so. But anyway,

2294
02:00:49,200 --> 02:00:54,280
Speaker 3: that's it, and that's why you think about it. All

2295
02:00:54,320 --> 02:01:01,400
Speaker 3: of us can understand. That's why defensive players are sensitive

2296
02:01:02,480 --> 02:01:04,800
Speaker 3: to how they rule these sacks and how they go

2297
02:01:05,000 --> 02:01:09,000
Speaker 3: because what if you're a guy and you've got half

2298
02:01:09,040 --> 02:01:13,080
Speaker 3: a million dollar bonus riding on whether some statistician up

2299
02:01:13,080 --> 02:01:16,840
Speaker 3: in the booth says, eh, I don't know, I think

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02:01:16,880 --> 02:01:18,760
Speaker 3: the other guy get that's the kind of thing they're

2301
02:01:18,800 --> 02:01:23,800
Speaker 3: talking about. So JJ Watt had this conversation with the

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Speaker 3: viewers on what he thought it was gonna be, and

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02:01:27,080 --> 02:01:30,240
Speaker 3: he was wrong too. And that's a guy who was

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02:01:30,320 --> 02:01:32,200
Speaker 3: three time Defensive Player of the Year and who had

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Speaker 3: a lot of big sack numbers. Yeah, so it's it's

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02:01:36,360 --> 02:01:38,760
Speaker 3: a gray area, no question about it. There's no great

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Speaker 3: way to do it, and as long as they stay consistent,

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02:01:42,720 --> 02:01:47,000
Speaker 3: even the players are okay with it. But I'm with you.

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02:01:47,200 --> 02:01:50,600
Speaker 3: I don't know how they got to that point where

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Speaker 3: the guy who was third to the party got half

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Speaker 3: a sack.

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Speaker 2: Well, Mason Graham, if you watch the play again, is

2313
02:01:58,040 --> 02:01:59,800
Speaker 2: really kind of the third guy to the party. He

2314
02:01:59,880 --> 02:02:01,520
Speaker 2: just happens to be the first to the guy on

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Speaker 2: the ground.

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Speaker 3: Well that's yeah, that's because he wasn't right with Josh

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02:02:04,240 --> 02:02:07,080
Speaker 3: when Josh doubled back. Because the other two guys there's

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Speaker 3: there's Miles.

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02:02:07,920 --> 02:02:11,280
Speaker 2: Right there, There's Alex right forcing, there's and they sees

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Speaker 2: a season and then Mason Graham comes in la and

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Speaker 2: he gets credit for the sack first, and then they

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02:02:15,600 --> 02:02:15,920
Speaker 2: fixed it.

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02:02:16,080 --> 02:02:17,720
Speaker 3: Okay, so there it is, all right, Well.

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02:02:17,680 --> 02:02:19,080
Speaker 2: It's a whole ado about nothing.

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Speaker 3: So Miles, Garrett and Mason and Wright who Josh sees

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02:02:22,920 --> 02:02:23,920
Speaker 3: and turns away from.

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02:02:24,720 --> 02:02:29,360
Speaker 2: And yeah that's and there's Mason Graham pulling up the career.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if Josh saw right or not, but

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Speaker 3: he's I know he saw Miles.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Aaron in Oregon. What do you got

2331
02:02:38,000 --> 02:02:38,480
Speaker 2: for his Aaron?

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Speaker 13: Hey, guys, Happy Christmas. I I just wanted to say

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Speaker 13: I'm not one of those people who are complaining about

2334
02:02:45,440 --> 02:02:48,360
Speaker 13: a win today. I am happy that we left there

2335
02:02:48,400 --> 02:02:49,640
Speaker 13: with the W. It was a little bit of a

2336
02:02:49,720 --> 02:02:52,920
Speaker 13: pucker factor, but we left the W and that's what counts.

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Speaker 13: So I wanted to talk about two quick things. First,

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02:02:58,280 --> 02:03:01,720
Speaker 13: I wanted to talk about you know, we've moan and

2339
02:03:01,840 --> 02:03:05,760
Speaker 13: grown about our receivers, but Khalil shak here, this guy.

2340
02:03:06,560 --> 02:03:08,240
Speaker 13: Every time he gets the ball, it seems like he

2341
02:03:08,360 --> 02:03:11,880
Speaker 13: does something magical with it, and I just I just

2342
02:03:12,000 --> 02:03:15,760
Speaker 13: love the guy how he plays, and I'm hoping like

2343
02:03:16,320 --> 02:03:17,920
Speaker 13: the coaches can see that a little bit more. I

2344
02:03:18,000 --> 02:03:20,720
Speaker 13: know where everybody eats, but somehow I want him to

2345
02:03:20,760 --> 02:03:22,520
Speaker 13: get the ball a little bit more, maybe play him

2346
02:03:22,520 --> 02:03:26,120
Speaker 13: first in the buffet line. So I want you guys

2347
02:03:26,200 --> 02:03:28,800
Speaker 13: to give me some feedback on him and what you

2348
02:03:28,880 --> 02:03:30,880
Speaker 13: think about him and put him in the game plan.

2349
02:03:31,000 --> 02:03:34,160
Speaker 13: And then also just that idea of playing up and

2350
02:03:34,280 --> 02:03:36,400
Speaker 13: down to opponents. It does seem like we do it

2351
02:03:36,960 --> 02:03:40,839
Speaker 13: from an outsider, and Steve especially, I want his opinion

2352
02:03:40,920 --> 02:03:43,800
Speaker 13: on you know, do you think, like, Okay, next week

2353
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Speaker 13: we're playing the World champs, a are we gonna like

2354
02:03:46,480 --> 02:03:49,960
Speaker 13: give it, you know, the extra effort. This week we

2355
02:03:50,080 --> 02:03:53,720
Speaker 13: played the three and twelve Browns. We might have taken

2356
02:03:53,760 --> 02:03:56,360
Speaker 13: our foot off the guests just as a player. Is

2357
02:03:56,440 --> 02:03:57,320
Speaker 13: that real or is that?

2358
02:03:57,880 --> 02:03:58,280
Speaker 17: Is that not?

2359
02:03:58,800 --> 02:04:00,400
Speaker 13: And if you guys could let me stay on the

2360
02:04:00,440 --> 02:04:01,360
Speaker 13: line so I can say.

2361
02:04:03,160 --> 02:04:06,720
Speaker 3: It is real. But it's unintentional, right, I mean, nobody's

2362
02:04:06,760 --> 02:04:09,640
Speaker 3: out there going out there trying to lay down for

2363
02:04:09,720 --> 02:04:13,720
Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns because they're three and eleven. Nobody does that,

2364
02:04:14,680 --> 02:04:21,560
Speaker 3: But because of the inability to think that they can

2365
02:04:21,640 --> 02:04:25,520
Speaker 3: beat you makes you go out and look like that.

2366
02:04:26,720 --> 02:04:28,720
Speaker 3: It was a problem in teams that I was on.

2367
02:04:28,920 --> 02:04:30,640
Speaker 3: Not all of them, and not every game, and not

2368
02:04:30,760 --> 02:04:34,120
Speaker 3: all of the time, but sometimes, Yeah, I think it's

2369
02:04:34,400 --> 02:04:36,800
Speaker 3: a common problem in the NFL at this point in history,

2370
02:04:36,880 --> 02:04:39,080
Speaker 3: particularly at this time of year, when you've got teams

2371
02:04:39,560 --> 02:04:42,040
Speaker 3: that are in the playoffs and want to get to

2372
02:04:42,080 --> 02:04:44,760
Speaker 3: the playoffs and want the playoffs to start, and they're

2373
02:04:44,800 --> 02:04:47,360
Speaker 3: playing a three and twelve team who's not going anywhere

2374
02:04:49,120 --> 02:04:54,200
Speaker 3: in a finger quotes insignificant game. Yeah, it's hard to

2375
02:04:54,280 --> 02:05:00,800
Speaker 3: show up with an attitude. One of the things BROWNI

2376
02:05:00,800 --> 02:05:02,720
Speaker 3: and I talk about at length is the type of

2377
02:05:02,920 --> 02:05:06,840
Speaker 3: personality your team has and the type of personalities you

2378
02:05:06,920 --> 02:05:11,120
Speaker 3: need on your team. Every team needs some guys that

2379
02:05:11,240 --> 02:05:14,360
Speaker 3: aren't quite there right, all right. You need some guys

2380
02:05:14,440 --> 02:05:17,440
Speaker 3: that you just hope that they show up in the

2381
02:05:17,520 --> 02:05:19,760
Speaker 3: locker room on game day on time and they can

2382
02:05:19,800 --> 02:05:22,400
Speaker 3: come out and play because they want to fight every

2383
02:05:22,480 --> 02:05:26,160
Speaker 3: snap and that kind of attitude where they want to

2384
02:05:26,200 --> 02:05:28,680
Speaker 3: be the point of the spear for your team. If

2385
02:05:28,720 --> 02:05:31,280
Speaker 3: there's an altercation, they sprint to get to the middle

2386
02:05:31,320 --> 02:05:33,760
Speaker 3: of it. They want to fight rather than almost rather

2387
02:05:33,800 --> 02:05:37,080
Speaker 3: than play football. They're those guys that just do not

2388
02:05:37,320 --> 02:05:41,800
Speaker 3: care about the rules, their own well being. They don't

2389
02:05:41,840 --> 02:05:44,520
Speaker 3: care about what people the media says about them. They

2390
02:05:44,560 --> 02:05:47,320
Speaker 3: don't care about what anybody thinks about them. They want

2391
02:05:47,360 --> 02:05:50,360
Speaker 3: an altercation and they want it as soon as possible.

2392
02:05:50,400 --> 02:05:55,000
Speaker 3: You need some of that on your team, and with

2393
02:05:55,160 --> 02:05:59,200
Speaker 3: those kind of guys, these games happen less. I don't

2394
02:05:59,200 --> 02:06:01,400
Speaker 3: know that the Bills have enough of those guys, or

2395
02:06:01,480 --> 02:06:04,360
Speaker 3: any of those guys. Some teams have too many of them,

2396
02:06:04,760 --> 02:06:08,280
Speaker 3: if you know what I mean. But you need somebody

2397
02:06:08,360 --> 02:06:11,040
Speaker 3: that gives your team some I'm not gonna stand here

2398
02:06:11,120 --> 02:06:15,360
Speaker 3: and watch you guys play flat and will give the

2399
02:06:15,400 --> 02:06:18,160
Speaker 3: attitude to his own teammates if they don't show up

2400
02:06:18,200 --> 02:06:21,400
Speaker 3: with an attitude of their own every team needs that

2401
02:06:22,160 --> 02:06:25,000
Speaker 3: and at this time of year you see all around league.

2402
02:06:25,000 --> 02:06:29,000
Speaker 3: We already mentioned the Houston Texans at home yesterday almost

2403
02:06:29,040 --> 02:06:31,400
Speaker 3: got their heads handed to them by the loss of it.

2404
02:06:31,440 --> 02:06:35,360
Speaker 3: I don't want to laugh the Las Vegas Raiders, the

2405
02:06:35,440 --> 02:06:36,800
Speaker 3: Las Vegas Raiders who have.

2406
02:06:37,160 --> 02:06:40,360
Speaker 2: Who won two games, they average fourteen point scoring preview.

2407
02:06:40,440 --> 02:06:42,120
Speaker 3: They can't get out of their own way this year,

2408
02:06:42,280 --> 02:06:44,880
Speaker 3: and they almost beat the Houston Texans for the exact

2409
02:06:44,960 --> 02:06:48,440
Speaker 3: reason we're talking in Houston. In Houston, for the exact

2410
02:06:48,520 --> 02:06:52,360
Speaker 3: reason we are talking about. It is a thing. It's real,

2411
02:06:53,120 --> 02:06:55,560
Speaker 3: and it has to do with the physicality of the

2412
02:06:55,640 --> 02:06:58,080
Speaker 3: game and what the game commands that you give it

2413
02:06:58,960 --> 02:07:02,720
Speaker 3: and the dis comfort call it calls for for just

2414
02:07:02,800 --> 02:07:06,160
Speaker 3: to suit up. That's that's what you're talking about, and

2415
02:07:06,400 --> 02:07:07,040
Speaker 3: it's a real thing.

2416
02:07:07,240 --> 02:07:10,960
Speaker 2: As for Shakir, he is the leading receiver on the team,

2417
02:07:11,440 --> 02:07:15,320
Speaker 2: so it's not like he's being ignored. The passing game

2418
02:07:15,440 --> 02:07:20,280
Speaker 2: only had twelve completions yesterday and he had four catches,

2419
02:07:20,480 --> 02:07:23,680
Speaker 2: so he had a third of the receptions. So I

2420
02:07:23,720 --> 02:07:26,560
Speaker 2: don't think they're ignoring him, Aaron. I just think the

2421
02:07:26,680 --> 02:07:31,440
Speaker 2: passing game in certain weeks has been anemic, and he

2422
02:07:31,880 --> 02:07:35,800
Speaker 2: like everyone else suffers, but I think he is very

2423
02:07:35,880 --> 02:07:40,720
Speaker 2: often one of the primary first or second guys in

2424
02:07:40,880 --> 02:07:44,480
Speaker 2: the progressions. It's largely either him or King Kate as

2425
02:07:44,560 --> 02:07:48,080
Speaker 2: the one or the two on most plays, so I

2426
02:07:48,120 --> 02:07:50,440
Speaker 2: would anticipate that continues going forward.

2427
02:07:50,520 --> 02:07:54,200
Speaker 3: The Bill's passing game has gotten to a point where

2428
02:07:54,240 --> 02:07:56,760
Speaker 3: if Josh drops back and doesn't let it go right away,

2429
02:07:58,760 --> 02:08:01,240
Speaker 3: it's it's we're not get They're got to getting anything

2430
02:08:01,280 --> 02:08:03,600
Speaker 3: out of it. You got to throw it a quick

2431
02:08:03,680 --> 02:08:06,400
Speaker 3: release to the back coming out or the tight end.

2432
02:08:07,400 --> 02:08:10,400
Speaker 3: It seems when Josh goes back on a long developing

2433
02:08:10,480 --> 02:08:12,160
Speaker 3: pass play, which they didn't want to do too much

2434
02:08:12,280 --> 02:08:14,960
Speaker 3: yesterday because of Miles Garrett's presence, you don't want to

2435
02:08:15,000 --> 02:08:17,160
Speaker 3: have Josh drop back and sat there and pack the ball.

2436
02:08:18,440 --> 02:08:21,800
Speaker 3: But moving Josh around and any of those pass plays

2437
02:08:22,320 --> 02:08:25,480
Speaker 3: in recent weeks that has taken a little bit of

2438
02:08:25,600 --> 02:08:30,000
Speaker 3: time to develop down the field. It just hasn't been there.

2439
02:08:32,000 --> 02:08:35,800
Speaker 3: So it has been working best with the tight ends

2440
02:08:35,840 --> 02:08:38,400
Speaker 3: and backs because they're just closer to the ball. Run

2441
02:08:38,480 --> 02:08:40,680
Speaker 3: some crossing routes. Hit them on the crossing route, hit

2442
02:08:40,720 --> 02:08:44,240
Speaker 3: the back out of the backfield, quick release, tunnel screens,

2443
02:08:44,600 --> 02:08:49,240
Speaker 3: bubble screens all of that stuff. So that's kind of

2444
02:08:49,280 --> 02:08:53,240
Speaker 3: where their passing game is living right now. And if

2445
02:08:53,280 --> 02:08:56,320
Speaker 3: it changes, okay, if it evolves away from that, that's fine,

2446
02:08:56,400 --> 02:08:58,400
Speaker 3: but you got to stay productive while you're doing it,

2447
02:08:59,000 --> 02:09:01,520
Speaker 3: and right now they have not begun to move off

2448
02:09:01,560 --> 02:09:01,720
Speaker 3: of it.

2449
02:09:03,000 --> 02:09:07,320
Speaker 2: There was one unfortunate moment in the first half of

2450
02:09:07,360 --> 02:09:12,879
Speaker 2: the game after Buffalo's second touchdown where practice squad elevation,

2451
02:09:13,680 --> 02:09:18,080
Speaker 2: Michael Badgely lined up for the extra point and clanged

2452
02:09:18,120 --> 02:09:20,480
Speaker 2: it off the right upright, so it was no good.

2453
02:09:21,040 --> 02:09:25,920
Speaker 2: What I was unaware of was the announcers Jinx may

2454
02:09:26,680 --> 02:09:31,760
Speaker 2: have been directly responsible for the miss. Iron Eagle, who

2455
02:09:31,960 --> 02:09:36,160
Speaker 2: is the NFL on CBS announcer with JJ Watt, was

2456
02:09:36,640 --> 02:09:43,120
Speaker 2: quite literally mentioning that Badgely, who had spent an earlier

2457
02:09:43,200 --> 02:09:46,320
Speaker 2: part of the season in Indianapolis with the Colts, was

2458
02:09:46,440 --> 02:09:50,440
Speaker 2: released by that club due to a problem with missed

2459
02:09:50,680 --> 02:09:54,720
Speaker 2: extra points, as he was ready to attempt an extra

2460
02:09:54,840 --> 02:09:57,200
Speaker 2: point for the Bills. Here's how it sounded.

2461
02:09:58,120 --> 02:10:01,160
Speaker 18: Second rushing touchdown of the season in for the versatile

2462
02:10:01,280 --> 02:10:04,800
Speaker 18: Tye Johnson and Michael Badgeley, who was cut by the

2463
02:10:04,840 --> 02:10:07,080
Speaker 18: Colts two weeks ago after missing an extra point.

2464
02:10:09,080 --> 02:10:16,760
Speaker 3: Oh on cue doint did you jinx him while he

2465
02:10:17,080 --> 02:10:20,120
Speaker 3: was kicking? I think I may have.

2466
02:10:20,240 --> 02:10:27,360
Speaker 18: It's on me, Michael, So Iron Eagle taking taking the

2467
02:10:27,440 --> 02:10:32,120
Speaker 18: brunt of the fault uh and saying that one's on me, Michael.

2468
02:10:32,760 --> 02:10:32,880
Speaker 3: Uh.

2469
02:10:33,040 --> 02:10:35,760
Speaker 2: The first time I heard that, it was hard for

2470
02:10:35,880 --> 02:10:39,960
Speaker 2: me not to chuckle because I avoid that like the plague.

2471
02:10:40,600 --> 02:10:44,320
Speaker 2: I do not go anywhere near that stuff, especially when

2472
02:10:44,360 --> 02:10:49,160
Speaker 2: a guy is lining up. But Iron, who is uh

2473
02:10:49,360 --> 02:10:53,440
Speaker 2: the ultimate professional, to his credit, owned it. Owned it.

2474
02:10:55,160 --> 02:10:58,520
Speaker 3: Michael. Hey, that's on me, Michael, I've never heard of

2475
02:10:58,640 --> 02:11:02,800
Speaker 3: guy timing is unbelievable. It is unbelievable. He missed extra

2476
02:11:02,880 --> 02:11:05,520
Speaker 3: point and you you heard it. It went bang right

2477
02:11:05,600 --> 02:11:08,800
Speaker 3: off and he is, oh, did I do that? He

2478
02:11:08,960 --> 02:11:11,600
Speaker 3: knew it right away, and I know JJ gave him

2479
02:11:11,640 --> 02:11:14,680
Speaker 3: the side I before he even said anything. Man, oh man,

2480
02:11:16,360 --> 02:11:18,760
Speaker 3: you don't see that very often. It's not a real thing,

2481
02:11:19,360 --> 02:11:20,680
Speaker 3: but it kind of looks like a real thing.

2482
02:11:20,800 --> 02:11:23,280
Speaker 2: Looked like a real thing yesterday. We have to take

2483
02:11:23,320 --> 02:11:25,040
Speaker 2: a break. We'll try to squeeze a phone call in

2484
02:11:25,360 --> 02:11:27,960
Speaker 2: when we get back, in a special birthday message as well.

2485
02:11:28,000 --> 02:11:29,800
Speaker 2: We'll get to those when we return here. On one

2486
02:11:29,840 --> 02:11:31,320
Speaker 2: Bill's Live Presentabody.

2487
02:11:30,880 --> 02:11:31,320
Speaker 3: Collid of Health.

2488
02:11:31,360 --> 02:11:44,760
Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, one final segment here

2489
02:11:44,800 --> 02:11:47,000
Speaker 2: on one Bill's Live on a Buffalo victory Monday to

2490
02:11:47,280 --> 02:11:49,640
Speaker 2: Donnie in Tanawanda. Donnie got about a minute. What do

2491
02:11:49,680 --> 02:11:50,200
Speaker 2: you got for us?

2492
02:11:51,040 --> 02:11:51,720
Speaker 13: All right, I'm here.

2493
02:11:51,760 --> 02:11:52,480
Speaker 17: Can you hear me? Guys?

2494
02:11:52,560 --> 02:11:52,680
Speaker 2: Yes?

2495
02:11:52,760 --> 02:11:54,480
Speaker 11: We had all right?

2496
02:11:54,560 --> 02:11:54,880
Speaker 10: Awesome.

2497
02:11:55,400 --> 02:11:57,320
Speaker 17: I just want to know. I'm looking at the CBS

2498
02:11:57,440 --> 02:12:02,400
Speaker 17: Sports app and I'm looking at that final, you know,

2499
02:12:02,600 --> 02:12:09,520
Speaker 17: controversial safety with Shador Sanders, and it says that we

2500
02:12:09,680 --> 02:12:11,960
Speaker 17: ended up with twenty five to nothing, but it got

2501
02:12:12,040 --> 02:12:13,880
Speaker 17: taken away. I just want to know when does that

2502
02:12:14,160 --> 02:12:16,360
Speaker 17: loss of down come into play.

2503
02:12:17,320 --> 02:12:20,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me first tell you, Donnie that during the

2504
02:12:20,960 --> 02:12:26,280
Speaker 2: television and radio time out, the officials came back on

2505
02:12:26,480 --> 02:12:29,400
Speaker 2: the mic during the TV break, so none of you

2506
02:12:29,480 --> 02:12:32,480
Speaker 2: saw this at home, and they ruled it a safety,

2507
02:12:34,360 --> 02:12:39,080
Speaker 2: and then before we got back from break, they reversed

2508
02:12:39,120 --> 02:12:43,520
Speaker 2: it again and said, no intentional ground it's intentional grounding.

2509
02:12:43,800 --> 02:12:48,080
Speaker 2: He's down at the one. The suspicion by everybody that has,

2510
02:12:48,400 --> 02:12:53,480
Speaker 2: you know, tried to ascertain what happened is that the

2511
02:12:54,120 --> 02:12:59,680
Speaker 2: replay assistant in the stadium ruled safety and then New

2512
02:12:59,760 --> 02:13:04,360
Speaker 2: York called and said, you're wrong, he's down at the one.

2513
02:13:04,880 --> 02:13:09,600
Speaker 2: Its intentional grounding. Fix it, and they changed it back.

2514
02:13:10,280 --> 02:13:15,240
Speaker 2: So we thought for a moment the Bills were getting

2515
02:13:15,320 --> 02:13:18,680
Speaker 2: two points and the ball, and then found out that

2516
02:13:18,720 --> 02:13:21,120
Speaker 2: they weren't in a span of about twenty seconds during

2517
02:13:21,280 --> 02:13:23,600
Speaker 2: the radio and TV time out yesterday. So none of

2518
02:13:23,640 --> 02:13:26,040
Speaker 2: you at home ever saw that, but I explained it

2519
02:13:26,080 --> 02:13:28,120
Speaker 2: when we came back from break on the radio broadcast

2520
02:13:28,200 --> 02:13:32,760
Speaker 2: what had taken place. And then after the game we

2521
02:13:32,880 --> 02:13:35,200
Speaker 2: kind of learned that it was probably the local replay

2522
02:13:35,200 --> 02:13:38,320
Speaker 2: assistant that ruled safety on review and then was overturned

2523
02:13:38,360 --> 02:13:41,720
Speaker 2: by New York. Right, And that's not known. That's just

2524
02:13:41,760 --> 02:13:44,720
Speaker 2: an assumption as to how it changed twice in twenty seconds.

2525
02:13:45,200 --> 02:13:49,120
Speaker 3: Really rarely used. His body has to be all the

2526
02:13:49,160 --> 02:13:51,440
Speaker 3: way in the in the end zone for it to

2527
02:13:51,520 --> 02:13:53,840
Speaker 3: be a safety, and he was like half in half

2528
02:13:53,960 --> 02:13:56,360
Speaker 3: hour h And that's that's.

2529
02:13:56,280 --> 02:13:59,760
Speaker 2: Why got some birthday wish to pass along here, Steve,

2530
02:14:00,000 --> 02:14:03,280
Speaker 2: you do the honor my granddaughter turning ten today.

2531
02:14:03,440 --> 02:14:06,600
Speaker 3: Wow, Rosie, so bless her heart. She's ten.

2532
02:14:07,200 --> 02:14:10,440
Speaker 2: Seems like it was just a hot minute ago where

2533
02:14:10,640 --> 02:14:13,960
Speaker 2: she joined us and now here she is double digit

2534
02:14:14,040 --> 02:14:17,800
Speaker 2: double digits. Congratulations, quite a teenager yet, thank goodness for that. Well,

2535
02:14:17,880 --> 02:14:19,880
Speaker 2: let yeah pump the breaks there. I think even her

2536
02:14:19,960 --> 02:14:21,880
Speaker 2: parents will tell you to pump the brakes on that one.

2537
02:14:22,200 --> 02:14:26,560
Speaker 2: Happy birthday, Rosieyes, Happy birthday, Rosie. Indeed. Uh tomorrow's show,

2538
02:14:27,200 --> 02:14:30,360
Speaker 2: we got our good friend Mitch Morse former Bill Center

2539
02:14:30,480 --> 02:14:33,120
Speaker 2: joining us for it is from the armchair segment, and

2540
02:14:33,280 --> 02:14:36,520
Speaker 2: as we always have on Tuesday, ESPN NFL analyst dan

2541
02:14:36,760 --> 02:14:38,800
Speaker 2: Orlofsky will give us his take on the game that

2542
02:14:39,040 --> 02:14:41,800
Speaker 2: was and look ahead to Bill's Eagles. It's all part

2543
02:14:41,840 --> 02:14:43,600
Speaker 2: of our Tuesday show. We'll see it won