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Speaker 1: So again AFC in the books, they'll start with the NFC.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with the East Boys, and how about them Cowboys?

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Speaker 1: How about them Cowboys getting some help on defense, dee Bro,

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Speaker 1: That's why I want to start with the Cowboys. Lots

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Speaker 1: of help on defense, lots of points last year. It's

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Speaker 1: fun for fantasy, but this ain't a fantasy show, is

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Speaker 1: an NFL show. Cowboys got to figure out what the

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Speaker 1: hell's going on the defensive side of the football. Agreed.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's why my top four needs for them

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Speaker 2: is linebacker, edge, defensive tackle, and cornerback. Did Shavon Rebel

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Speaker 2: show you enough as a Rocky coming off an injury

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Speaker 2: to be a long term answer? Tron Bland has been

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Speaker 2: in and out of the lineup. You still need an answer.

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Speaker 2: I know they signed Kobe Durant, but still they need

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Speaker 2: help in the cornerback room, the linebacker room. Marionover showing

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Speaker 2: is really their only standout linebacker like outside of him,

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Speaker 2: like I know they brought in for Shaun Garry, they

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Speaker 2: still have Ezeraku and stuff, but more like edges in

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Speaker 2: terms of what they're going to provide to the defense.

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Speaker 2: And also I brought this up on previous shows man

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Speaker 2: like Detackle. They look like they're pretty short up on paper,

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Speaker 2: but Kenny Clark is going to be incredibly expensive next

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Speaker 2: year as a twenty two million dollar cap hit, So

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Speaker 2: getting ahead of that in this draft class.

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Speaker 1: And I'll either at.

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Speaker 2: The end of it, not just going the defensive side,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw in wide receiver here, Jerry doing Jerry things.

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Speaker 2: And now seeing the JSN contract come down the pike,

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Speaker 2: is he going to really pay George Pickens that money?

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Speaker 2: Or do they draft a wide receiver, keep Pickens for

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Speaker 2: this year and he's gone after this year. I can't

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Speaker 2: rule that out.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a distinct possibility. Andrew ericson the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: where would you start first on the defensive side, I

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Speaker 1: think that's probably the better way to put this one.

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Speaker 3: It's weird that it's in twenty twenty six we're talking

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Speaker 3: about this team needs a draft an off ball linebacker.

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Speaker 3: That's how it really feels. The linebackers for Dallas were

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Speaker 3: so bad last year. Kenneth Murray, it was terrible Logan

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Speaker 3: Will's and they traded for him from an equally as

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Speaker 3: bad Bengals defense, and he was equally as terrible on

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Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys. So look, this is a great class

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Speaker 3: to have a linebacker problem.

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Speaker 1: Though.

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Speaker 3: You look at a player like c. J. Allen, spent

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Speaker 3: Georgia linebacker. You know who the linebacker coach for the

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Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys, guys, and he guesses, oh, spent the last

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Speaker 3: three years at Georgia, So c J. Allen, he might

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Speaker 3: be Dallas Cowboys. So yeah, linebacker for me. Cornerback. They

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Speaker 3: Deron Blen inside, put Shavon relll have him play on

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Speaker 3: in this past year. And then edge defensive tackleers, adding

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Speaker 3: more depth at those places in the defensive trenches, because

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Speaker 3: that's where Dallas spent a lot of their draft capital.

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Speaker 3: Actually this was per NFL Draft IQ. Dallas has spent

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Speaker 1: Next up, New York Giants. Good news for them as

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Speaker 1: they have a quarterback, so that's great. They also have

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Speaker 1: eventually a big, alpha dog wide receiver coming back in

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Speaker 1: Malik Neighbors. We'll see how long that takes. But Andrew Rickson,

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Speaker 1: where would you start here with the priorities for them

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Speaker 3: So it's for me, it's defensive tackle and a wide receiver,

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Speaker 3: and it's just kind of depending on which way you

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Speaker 3: the value versus the need isn't there. I think that

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Speaker 3: you had better be off spending that type of pick

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Speaker 3: on a wide receiver because I think it's equally his

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Speaker 3: big need. But this was the second worst run defense

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Speaker 3: a way to get someone to pair with Dexter Lawrence

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Speaker 3: couldn't do it at all last year. So I think

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Speaker 3: maybe that's something they address in the later rounds, but

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Speaker 3: just more beef upfront and then losing Wandell Robinson, Molik

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Speaker 3: that they've added have been on one year deals. Right,

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Speaker 3: It's like Darnol Mooney, Calvin Assen, Isaiah Hodgens. So it's like, okay,

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Speaker 3: like maybe we can kind of like piecemeal together a

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Speaker 3: receiver corps while we wait for league neighbors to come back,

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Speaker 3: or we just draft someone to pair with the leak

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Speaker 3: Neighbors and our young quarterback for the future that we

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Speaker 3: feel really really good about. I think the offensive line

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Speaker 3: to one more guard spot. I think to kind of

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Speaker 3: it's only on a one year deal. Do feel really

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Speaker 1: Deebro, where do you want to start here with the

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Speaker 2: I think the two biggest pressing needs for me are

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Speaker 2: not been good. So Kalem Down's come on down, Like

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Speaker 2: if he's at the top of their board, I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: be surprised there guard is a spot where they can

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Speaker 2: clean pockets. I'll echo also Ericson brought up as far

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Speaker 2: kind of pseudo count Isaiah likely in there, but Darius Slayton,

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Speaker 2: Darneld Mooney, we know who they are at this point

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Speaker 2: in their careers. And going further down the trough here

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Speaker 2: running back Cam's Katabu like that type of play style,

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Speaker 2: What does that look like as far as his career.

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Speaker 2: He's coming off a very substantial injury, has had his

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Speaker 2: off field goofy moments this offseason, and looking at a

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Speaker 2: player that this play style, he couldn't even sustain it

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Speaker 2: career look like? So again, for a team that I

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Speaker 2: think they're probably the floor in the first round for

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Speaker 2: Jeremiah Love, so easily a spot where I know I

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Speaker 2: listed running back ericson and I both listed running back

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Speaker 2: fifth here that easily could be at the top.

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Speaker 1: Of the board for the john though. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: talk about the Eagles here tackle, edge and safety, both

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Speaker 1: of you have. So give me your order of priority

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Speaker 1: for the Eagles in the draft, Debrouh. Edge is the

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Speaker 1: top for me.

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Speaker 2: Losing Jalen Phillips is huge as well as disease a

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Speaker 2: Jelai josh ucha. Like for me, it's it's edge, and

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Speaker 2: then honestly, it's safety after that, like losing Replanktship is massive.

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Speaker 2: So while we could talk about getting ahead of other

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Speaker 2: needs on the offensive line with guys aging and injuries

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Speaker 2: and do they come back, do they retire, I look

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Speaker 2: at edge and safety as the top two needs for

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Speaker 2: this team, and yes, then after that it's tackle and guard.

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Speaker 2: And you know, we can go down the conversation with

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Speaker 2: with aj Brown and Dallas Goddard and what have you.

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Speaker 1: Ericson, what's your order of need here for the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: because I know you guys have the same one, So

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Speaker 1: how would you rank it?

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Speaker 3: So for me, it's tackle. I've just we've seen this

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Speaker 3: picture play out with Lane Johnson. He misses time in

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Speaker 3: the Eagles offense craters. He's thirty six years old, coming

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Speaker 3: off another season where he was injured and miss time.

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Speaker 3: He didn't come back, right, I'm not my misremembering like

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Speaker 3: he was like he's gonna come back for this playoff game,

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Speaker 3: because I remember being really hig on the Eagles in

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Speaker 3: betting shows about backing the Eagles, and that's exactly what happened.

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Speaker 3: It was a disaster. So Fred Johnson, who was one

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Speaker 3: at right tackle. He's still a free agent, so maybe

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Speaker 3: they bring him back as a backup signing to Lane Johnson,

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Speaker 3: but he's still available. So I think tackle just trying

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Speaker 3: to find the air apparent at right tackle to Lane Johnson.

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Speaker 3: They feel pretty good where they have Malada at left tackle,

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Speaker 3: but I think that the offensive line makes too much sense,

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Speaker 3: especially if hey, we have another offense like we need

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Speaker 3: to put Jalen Hurts in a position to succeed. How

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Speaker 3: do you do that with protection up front? Anytime his

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Speaker 3: Eagles offense has been dominant, it's been for one main reason.

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Speaker 3: It's because the offensive line just kicked everyone else's asses.

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Speaker 3: Like that's why, yeah, so continue to invest in that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's a Howie Roseman staple. Right, Oh, we

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Speaker 3: just draf trench players in the first round. Like, that's

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Speaker 3: what we do, and that's how we build out a

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Speaker 3: successful program and offensive infrastructure for our quarterback edge as well.

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Speaker 3: And losing Jalen Phillips, Brandon Graham thirty eight years old,

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Speaker 3: maybe they can call him up and be like, hey,

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Speaker 3: you want to come back for another playoff run. That's

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Speaker 3: always like in the cards. But again, more edge, pass rushers,

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Speaker 3: know that Deebo didn't mention this as well, but we

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Speaker 3: did get a trade last week. They traded away Sidney Brown,

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Speaker 3: so that was another safety that they had that they

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Speaker 3: no longer have an option anymore. Losing Sidney Brown and

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Speaker 3: Red Blanke and Ship. I think that they're potentially going

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Speaker 3: to move Michael Carter to safety. So that could be

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Speaker 3: a potential option. But still I think adding another dynamic

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Speaker 3: free safety strong safety would make a lot of sense

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Speaker 3: given the strengths in this class.

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Speaker 1: What do you guys think of Jalen Hurt's throwing picks

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Speaker 1: in that flag football game last weekend? By the way

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Speaker 1: off you call any of that, it's kind of fun.

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Speaker 2: I can honestly say I didn't waste any of my

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Speaker 3: The NFL gms would love that their their players are

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Speaker 1: I just shocked that they were out there playing at all. Like, geez, man,

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Speaker 3: You're gonna you're gonna see all these updated clauses in

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Speaker 3: Andrew wide receiver, Yeah, dude, for this Commander's team. Karen McLaurin,

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Speaker 3: I think we view him as a much younger player

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Speaker 3: Luke McCaffrey, Jalen Lane, these are the unproven pieces as

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Speaker 3: Miller at thirty seven years old, led this team in

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Speaker 3: Drius Armstrong was good before he got hurt last year,

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Speaker 3: we're convinced four years, one hundred million dollars. There you go,

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Speaker 3: Chase was only a one year deal, so I think

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Speaker 1: Well, hopefully Jason helps get after the quarterback a little

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Speaker 1: your thoughts here, Debro about the Washington Commanders what they

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Speaker 2: They have a good bit of needs and they don't

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Speaker 1: What in the Eveloven? Heck are you doing? Dude?

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Speaker 2: Like last year it's like, hey, every geriatric two or

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Speaker 2: Jane Daniels. And this year it's I mean, Erics has

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Speaker 2: let it off perfectly. Wide receiver, what in the everlve

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Speaker 2: and hell are we doing here? Like Luke McCaffrey, we

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Speaker 1: If Chicka Konqua walks into any NFL team as the

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Speaker 1: you all you need to know. You are in trouble. Trouble, trouble, trouble.

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Speaker 1: And with Brandon Ayuk, like, even if he does sign there,

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Speaker 3: It is?

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Speaker 1: Who knows?

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Speaker 2: It's It's an absolute mystery. So it begins with wide

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Speaker 1: Why why why why did this team cut taller Biattish?

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Speaker 1: Do you have an in house replacement at center that

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Speaker 1: would say wide receiver center is the number two need

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Speaker 1: cornerback as well? Like like Erickson talked about, can we

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Speaker 1: they signed another undersized cornerback in the Meek Robinson. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: So this this roster has a lot of high priced

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Speaker 2: a running back in here, Bill Rashad White, Like, what

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Speaker 3: Man? Like brought they brought back a butt, They brought

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Speaker 3: back McNichols, m wepon. Yeah, he's been fifteen. I had

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Speaker 1: Crossed, We'll see. All right, Let's get on here and

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Chicago Bears. De Bro, you think

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Speaker 1: they need wide receiver. I disagree. I don't. I don't

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Speaker 1: think wide receivers where you start with the Bears. I

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Speaker 1: That's my take, but I want to hear yours.

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Speaker 2: Because outside of the hope and hype, we've seen enough

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Wait a minute. Luther Burton was a

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Speaker 1: spend a whole segment defending Will Campbell, but we're gonna

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Speaker 1: just throw away Romadons already. I'm not saying you.

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Speaker 2: Throw either one of those guys away, but also losing

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Speaker 2: DJ More. You also need another starter, So.

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Speaker 3: You got Cliff Raymond.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, let's just talk about Jenny Walker too. You're

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Speaker 3: The Chicago Bears team needs.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, I know, I know the Bears made

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Speaker 1: Buyerd's gone now to so they lose all those turnovers.

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Speaker 1: Like to me, it's safety, it's corner, Like those are

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Speaker 2: Also center, Drew Dolman center too. I mean Garrett Bradberry,

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Speaker 2: There are a good bit of needs here. You can

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Speaker 3: Edge that's number one eight thirty first and pass rush

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Speaker 3: win rate last year. They have to generate more pressure

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Speaker 3: like that's it again. Dio Adigmo is returning from a

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Speaker 3: the betting sports books, they're minus one fifty five the

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Speaker 3: draft defensive lineman slash edge player. They've been very vocal

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Speaker 3: as our team's biggest need. He can work his magic

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Speaker 3: on the offensive side. He has the pieces in place

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Speaker 3: with Lovelin, with Luther burn with a Dunday, with Caleb Williams. Again,

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Speaker 3: they added those holes in free agency. I love what

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Speaker 3: one year deals, so okay, we can kind of piecemeal

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Speaker 3: it was smart for them. And to your point, Joe

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Speaker 2: See I was going to actually inject corner in here,

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Speaker 1: Ericson where'd you go with the Lions here? In terms

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Speaker 3: My top two for the Lions are offensive tackle because

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Speaker 3: And although every mock draft I've done it's always Lions,

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Speaker 3: three is probably gone by the time they pick. I

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Speaker 3: would assume that noo that we're going to fall that far,

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Speaker 3: or maybe the Lions are aggressive and they move up

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Speaker 3: to draft one of these edge rushers if one of

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Speaker 3: them falls to the ten to eleven spot in the

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Speaker 3: NFL draft. So look, they lost the Mohammed He had

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Speaker 3: twelve sacks last year playing opposite of Aiden Hutchinson, So

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Speaker 3: just getting somebody opposite of him, I think makes the

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Speaker 3: most sense between offensive tackle and edge.

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Speaker 1: De bro for you, what are your thoughts on the

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Speaker 1: Lions offseason needs as we're looking now ahead to the draft.

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Speaker 2: Ericson and I are hand holding our top four needs

440
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Speaker 2: are exactly in the exact same order. It's left tackle,

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Speaker 2: it's edge, it's linebacker, losing Angeloni and de tackle. For

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Speaker 2: everything that's holy and sacred in this world, Brad Holmes,

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Speaker 2: please do not resign Marcus Davenport again, just not do that. So,

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Speaker 2: like for everything Ericson laid out here, also, losing Angeloni

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Speaker 2: is big DJ reader. Losing him as well as guys

446
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Speaker 2: has any has history not shown us with the Detroit

447
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Speaker 2: Lions that they need health. So if you can't bank

448
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Speaker 2: on health and regression of that over their entire defense

449
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Speaker 2: gets hurt yearly.

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Speaker 1: So okay, you need to increase the depth on this roster.

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Speaker 1: If guys can't stay healthy, maybe that happens this year,

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Speaker 1: crossing everything we got, fingers, toes and everything. If that

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Speaker 1: can't happen, you need to add depth. And so I'll

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Speaker 1: bring up d tackle here too, all right, So dtackle

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Speaker 1: for you here with the other need for the Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 1: Looking ahead to the Green Bay Packers, where do you

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Speaker 1: want to start with them? Debro This is another team

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Speaker 1: too that I think is kind of a weird limbo

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Speaker 1: where I don't know if they've did enough this offseason

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Speaker 1: to really kind of move the needle for me. So

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Speaker 1: can they move it in the draft.

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Speaker 2: If you're a Packers fan, I hope so, because losing

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Speaker 2: Rashid Walker, they have tackle issues.

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Speaker 1: That's my number one spot for them.

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Speaker 2: I'm worried about, like this feels like a draft class

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Speaker 2: and I buried this down the list, but I also

467
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Speaker 2: threw in wide receiver here. The two things that you

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Speaker 2: see the Packers take stabs at every single year regardless

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Speaker 2: is offensive line help and the wide receiver room. And

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Speaker 2: quietly again bringing up a need for a team that

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Speaker 2: might not look like a need on the surface. In

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven, Christian Watson, Jaden Reid, and Dontavian Wicks

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Speaker 2: are all free agents. They just lost Romeo Dobbs, so

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Speaker 2: basically they're outside of Matthew Golden after this season, they're

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Speaker 2: losing almost their entire wide receiver room. So could this

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Speaker 2: be a team where if you're looking at betting markets

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Speaker 2: and stuff to get them to baby go wide receiver

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Speaker 2: with their first pick. I don't think it's crazy, although

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Speaker 2: I do think that tackle is a need, edge is

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Speaker 2: a need, and also losing Jenkins and free agency, center

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Speaker 2: is a need.

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Speaker 1: What are the needs in your opinion for the Green

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Speaker 1: Bay Packers, Andrew.

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Speaker 3: I think that they can improve at the cornerback position.

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Speaker 3: So we talked about a lot of the shows where

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Speaker 3: how do you attack this Packers defense? And this was

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Speaker 3: before the Michael Parsons injury. Was you throw on them

488
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Speaker 3: because these corners are overrated, Kishawn Nixon, Carrington Valentine, They're

489
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Speaker 3: both entering contract years. They lost Nate Hobbs he got

490
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Speaker 3: hurt last year, but he signed with the San Francisco

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Speaker 3: forty nine ers. They did add Saint ju just to

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Speaker 3: a two year deal. But I think that they're not

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Speaker 3: going to be afraid to address this secondary. And that's

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Speaker 3: something they've also done historically speaking, is they invest a

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Speaker 3: lot in the secondary. So it would not surprise me

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Speaker 3: at all if in the second round or third round

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Speaker 3: that they draft a cornerback and they don't have a

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Speaker 3: first round pack because of the trade they made last

499
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Speaker 3: year to get Michaeh. Parsons and deebro hit on this

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Speaker 3: a little bit, but I was probably more optimistic about

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Speaker 3: their offensive line, just thinking, Okay, well, all they have

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Speaker 3: to do is get all these guys healthy again, but

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Speaker 3: the injuries that they're coming off of, Tom's returning from

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Speaker 3: an injury, the offensive line depth is a little bit

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Speaker 3: thinner after the pieces that they lost. You look at

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Speaker 3: shiet Walker, He's going to the Caroline Panthers, Jenkins to

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Speaker 3: the Browns. So that does concern me. And thinking back

508
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Speaker 3: about this Packer's offensive line, and I almost hit up

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Speaker 3: Fits about it, be like, how do you feel about

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Speaker 3: the offensive line because I'm like thinking about it, and

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Speaker 3: I'm like, but it was healthy. I thought it was okay,

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Speaker 3: but then things kind of unraveled when they lost pieces.

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Speaker 3: So Green Bay's always wanted to invest in offensive line pieces,

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Speaker 3: and I think that they're going to do that, And

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Speaker 3: I guess for me, I put edge on here as well,

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Speaker 3: just because I am always concerned about guys coming off

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Speaker 3: injuries or how effective will Parsons be. But Green Bay

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Speaker 3: may not be in a position where they can take

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Speaker 3: a luxury edge rusher because of the other needs on

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Speaker 3: their roster between cornerback, defensive tackle, offensive line, where they

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Speaker 3: just kind of have to hope that we invested a

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Speaker 3: lot in Parsons. We did not want him to tear

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Speaker 3: his ac out but he did, and we're just gonna

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Speaker 3: hope that he comes back and is effective. Yeah, because

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Speaker 3: we don't know if we have the assets or enough,

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Speaker 3: especially without a first round pick to further bolster. Oh

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Speaker 3: but well we need to draft edge depth. Well you

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Speaker 3: can't because you have all these other edge issues that

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Speaker 3: you need to address instead.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the Minnesota Vikings. They needed

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. They got a quarterback at least in theory

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Speaker 1: here with Kyler Murray. I would be going for safety

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Speaker 1: right away for them, or maybe edge ericson where would

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Speaker 1: you be going and starting out your draft here if

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Speaker 1: you were the Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be edge for me. That's what the

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Speaker 3: reporting has been. When it comes to Brian Flores, he

538
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Speaker 3: wants an edge rusher to put a part of his defense.

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Speaker 3: I think defensive line artomac becomes a need as well,

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Speaker 3: just because of the guys that they released. They released

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Allen, they released Jimon Hargrave. I do think it's

542
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Speaker 3: kind of curious though that they cut those players. So

543
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Speaker 3: maybe they feel good about some of their younger players

544
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Speaker 3: in the defensive materia that they feel comfortable, or it's

545
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Speaker 3: just hey, we need cap space, so we got to

546
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Speaker 3: move off these guys who are maybe just a little

547
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Speaker 3: bit overrated, and we'll have to just deal with our

548
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Speaker 3: lumps as we continue to the twenty twenty sixth seasons.

549
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Speaker 3: So defasive tackle, edge and running back Aaron Jones and

550
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Speaker 3: Jordan Mason, they're gonna be free agents at the end

551
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Speaker 3: of the season. So as we try to point together

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Speaker 3: in piece, Okay, which running back is gonna go to

553
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Speaker 3: which team and who's gonna end up being the fantasy

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Speaker 3: RB two in this class because it's gonna be all

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Speaker 3: landing spot dependent behind Jeremiah love Well, the Vikings are

556
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Speaker 3: probably one of those teams that will draft a rookie

557
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Speaker 3: running back because another two starters are not going to

558
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Speaker 3: be under contract in twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: All right, Vikings for you, de bro, Where should they

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Speaker 1: start out?

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Speaker 2: This roster is quietly terrible outside of a lot of stars.

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Speaker 1: Like, oh wow, dude, they've got terrible, pretty good defensive performance,

563
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Speaker 1: they got a great head coach, I got Justin Jefferson

564
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Speaker 1: all world wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: Terrible hmm terrible. Okay, let's hear this.

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Speaker 1: So I think this roster could win the division if

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray plays.

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Speaker 3: Well, I've color me intrigued. I'm ready.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to hear this.

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Speaker 2: So they've got hole, They've got a hole in safety,

571
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Speaker 2: they got a hole at center. They have big needs

572
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Speaker 2: of diffend tackle. Jonathan Garnard still might not be on

573
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Speaker 2: this roster when we come to week one.

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Speaker 1: He might.

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Speaker 2: He's still alive to get traded. So you have edge needs.

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Speaker 2: Erickson just talked about even if they keep Grenard, they

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Speaker 2: have edge needs. Running back is an issue as well

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Speaker 2: as right tackle. Brian O'Neil's not gonna be there after

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Speaker 2: this year. Their offensive line was banged up in hurt

580
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Speaker 2: last year. Do you get a fully healthy season out

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Speaker 2: of Darisaw? Jordan Addison could be gone after this year.

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Speaker 2: He's got a club option. But I don't look at

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Speaker 2: I don't feel great about this roster man Like, I

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Speaker 2: feel like a lot of the coordinating covers up a

585
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Speaker 2: lot of the problems for this roster overall, where Brian

586
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Speaker 2: Flores cures a lot of what ails them. But again,

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Speaker 2: even if they wanted to draft a corner, guys like,

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Speaker 2: are you that impressed with Isaiah Rodgers? Are you that

589
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Speaker 2: impressed with theo Jackson? Byron Murphy. Are those otherworldly like

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Speaker 2: just shut down corners?

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Speaker 1: No, But I think they're good enough. You think they're

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Speaker 1: good enough also, I just brought up I think they're

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Speaker 1: good enough. I think they're good enough for the system

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Speaker 1: that Flores runs.

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Speaker 2: They're good enough if you blitz and you can get

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Speaker 2: home with the pressure to where you're not leaving them

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Speaker 2: on islands. But losing Javon Hargrave, if Gernard is gone,

598
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Speaker 2: losing Jonathan Allen, those are big problems. Andrew van Ginkel

599
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 2: had the neck issue. Could he stay healthy? This roster

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Speaker 2: is not nearly as sound as.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people believe it all right,

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Speaker 1: So a difference of opinion there from the Vikings perspective.

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Speaker 1: go to the NFC South and start with the Atlanta Falcons.

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Speaker 1: Not so much first round pick for the Falcons this year,

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: one of them from last year? What do we and

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Speaker 2: that's honestly where it goes to. What are their biggest needs?

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Speaker 1: I mean, dude, if James Pierce like he's still in limbo,

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Speaker 1: we don't even know if he's ever going to play

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Speaker 1: another NFL snap. So with Walker last year, teaming with him, like,

645
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Speaker 1: was he an answer? Do you feel really good about

646
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: their pass rush? I don't. Their cornerback room also really

647
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: needs a lot of help. A J.

648
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 2: Terrell even discussing him in the most rosy of cases

649
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 2: in the glass half full approach and saying he has

650
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 2: still had a very up and down career outside of him,

651
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 2: Billy Bowman, JUNR, Mike Hughes, c. J.

652
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: Henderson. Any of those corners really scary you. They shouldn't

653
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: as well as the game you like to play. Do

654
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: any corner scare you with Derek Brown? Billy Bowman's okay,

655
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: but again like not changing the math for offensive coordinators.

656
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: But I'll even throw in wide receiver here, Johan Dotson

657
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: and alamede'es a Kias.

658
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 3: They're gonna run. They're gonna get so much Cardio, Yes.

659
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: Wins Prince. By the way, James Pierce two weeks ago

660
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: charged with three felonies and a misdemeanors. Man, don't watch

661
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: any of the videos. No, no, all right, ericson what

662
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on the Falcons needs.

663
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 3: Death taxes and pass rush. We're back, We're.

664
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: Less picks to do it. That's the problem. That's the problem.

665
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 3: The thing is, after last year they actually had a

666
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 3: pass rush for the first time since the Jonathan Abraham

667
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 3: era of Atlanta Falcons FOW and now it's in limbo

668
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 3: again because of the Pierce situation. So they lost Leonard

669
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 3: Floyd Daveon Yametta. He was also again they signed a

670
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 3: Caesar's Lurie but to one year deal. They just need

671
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 3: more depth on the defensive line, and Matt Ryan has

672
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 3: talked about a lot this offseason about hey, we need

673
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 3: to stop the run, so edge defensive tackle, just the

674
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 3: defensive trenches, and then I would also add wide receiver

675
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 3: to just they need more than what they have if

676
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 3: Drake London were to go down. I guess, I guess

677
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 3: because I have Kyle Pitts two as that pseudo wide

678
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 3: receiver to. Maybe it's not as big of a knee,

679
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 3: but just something that Zakias thoughts in do you really

680
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 3: want those guys in full time roles? I'm not so sure,

681
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 3: but maybe it's just, hey, we just concentrate all the

682
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 3: targets and touches between our top three are big three guys,

683
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 3: which would just be awesome for fantasy football.

684
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: Pler and Arnold Abikhatti left to just adding to the

685
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: edge conversation. So Wolf, we know Andrew Erickson as a

686
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: Patriots fan by trade, but his heart is with the

687
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers. Let's talk about the Panthers Andrew Erickson. What

688
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: are their needs here heading into the twenty twenty six season.

689
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 3: I still think they need another defensive tackle to pair

690
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 3: with Derek Brown. Not this Derek Brown, the other Derek Brown,

691
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 3: because they just get Derek stood. They still can't stop

692
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 3: the run. It's just every year the Carolin Panthers struggle

693
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 3: to stop the throne, even though they have one really

694
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,479
Speaker 3: good defensive tackle in Brown. But I still think they

695
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 3: need to generate more pass rush as well. Second worst

696
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 3: pressure rate in twenty twenty five. Now, adding Jalen Phillips

697
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 3: to that should help address that problem, But I still

698
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 3: just want more defensive on that defensive line. I think

699
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 3: tight end Datavian Sanders, I think he's probably not the guy.

700
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm not going out on the lane

701
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 3: after two years and saying, hey, this guy's probably not

702
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 3: a tight end difference maker. So in a deeper class,

703
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 3: I like Carolina adding a more dynamic pass catching tight end.

704
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 3: Some of them create more yards after the catch, another

705
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 3: weapon for Bryce Young. I really tip my cap to

706
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 3: the Panthers in terms of what they did during free agency.

707
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 3: I mean, addressing all of their biggest needs at linebacker,

708
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 3: at edge. Adding in Walker from the Green Bay Packers.

709
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 3: I thought it was a really sharp move because Ikinanu

710
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 3: is also dealing with an injury, So having a stop

711
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 3: gap option at that tackle spot while your starter return

712
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 3: from injury, I thought was really sharp and I'm really

713
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 3: fascinating to see what they do. I know we talked

714
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 3: about on the mock Draft show. We did, but I

715
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 3: could see them going in a lot of different directions.

716
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 3: Whether it's just another edge rusher, or they draft the

717
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 3: best wide receiver available, or they draft a linebacker or

718
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,479
Speaker 3: a safety, someone that can be dynamic in their defense.

719
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 3: They can go in a lot of different directions.

720
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 1: Which direction should they go in? In your opinion? Derek Brown,

721
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers, what are their biggest needs?

722
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 3: Man?

723
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 2: So I listed wide receiver and tight end to begin

724
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 2: the conversation. I think at this point we can all

725
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,919
Speaker 2: say that xavierly Get was a big swing and miss

726
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: Jalen Coker.

727
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: They didn't really like they they didn't really extend him

728
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:24,919
Speaker 1: with a multi year deal.

729
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 2: So what do they feel like? They're like, has he

730
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 2: proven himself enough? Jatavian Sanders, Tommy Tremble, Mitchell Evans, Felipe

731
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 2: Franks or any of these guys answers. So for me,

732
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 2: this comes to okay, not Cambrice Young be a long

733
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 2: term answer. This is you just have to give him

734
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 2: more pass catchers man, whether he's the quarterback or not

735
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 2: after this season. So wide receiver and tight end to

736
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 2: the first two things for me, good class to address both,

737
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: and Erickson kind of talked about this previously. Ikey Akwanu,

738
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 2: if you want to go look at the historical rates

739
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 2: of of offensive lineman or players in general coming back

740
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 2: from his particular injury, it is.

741
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: A coffin nail.

742
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 3: It is horrible.

743
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if we see him come back to

744
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 2: anywhere close to pre injury version of himself. So offensive tackle, like,

745
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 2: I know they got Walker, He's a one year stopcap,

746
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: so I think offensive tackle quietly, they could, like Erickson

747
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 2: talked about, they could go a number of different directions.

748
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 2: And I'll even throw in cornerback here. Mike Jackson played

749
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 2: well last year, Charlie Smith Wade was really good in

750
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 2: the nickel. But both of those guys, like I think

751
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 2: you do need more depth at that position as well.

752
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: All Right, you guys seem to agree on the needs

753
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: or at least the biggest priority here for the New

754
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints. The next thing we're gonna talk about. You

755
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: both have wide receiver, so paint that picture for me, Debro,

756
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: What does that picture look like in the NFL draft?

757
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 2: Who is that wide receiver? And why Carnel Tate come

758
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 2: on now, please, okay? Any guy in the first round.

759
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 2: I think this is one of those situations where maybe

760
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 2: Mickey Loomis does some Mickey Loomis things and he tries

761
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 2: to grab a guy in the middle middle rounds because

762
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 2: he's had hits in his history a wide receiver. So

763
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 2: maybe not something they address in the first round of

764
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 2: the NFL Draft, but definitely if you're looking at this

765
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 2: depth chart, dude, Devon val is not going to get

766
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 2: it done. Mason Tipman or Tipton is not going to

767
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: get it done. They need another wide receiver opposite Chris

768
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 2: a Lave, especially if Chris a Lave walks out the

769
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 2: door and they don't secure a long term contract with him.

770
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 2: The other position that I'll bring up here is cornerback.

771
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 2: Losing a Lante Taylor is big guys like and can

772
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 2: you say that kool Ai McKinstry is definitively like.

773
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: He had some moments and flashes.

774
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 2: Quincy Riley played good, But this is also a team

775
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 2: that if we look to previous draft classes for the Saints,

776
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 2: they get ahead of cornerback needs. So drafting a guy

777
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 2: like kool A, drafting a guy like Alonte Taylor when

778
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 2: it didn't look like the first pass of the depth

779
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 2: chart that they really needed cornerback, This is also a

780
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 2: spot where I think they could address. And I'll bring

781
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 2: up detach edge to round out the conversation. Brian Brusse

782
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 2: has not been an answer. Davon Gotcho is not a

783
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 2: I mean, he's not been played well honestly, so de tackled.

784
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: They just need an upgrade. Carl Grandison, you know what

785
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: you're getting out of him. Cam Jordan, I don't even

786
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 2: know if they bring him back in the building. So

787
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 2: edge is also a position.

788
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 1: Need for them. How about you, Andrew Erickson, I know

789
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: you said wide receiver for the Saints. What does that

790
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: look like?

791
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 3: I mean, Deebrov summed it up basically how I would

792
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 3: have We had the exact same team needs, and this

793
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 3: was we just put our team needs in basically the

794
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 3: same mold. I think I flip flopped edge of defensive tackle,

795
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 3: but that's being kind of nitpicky, because when I first

796
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 3: did the Saints team needs, it was really more wide

797
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 3: receiver and cornerback, and I think that maybe trying to

798
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 3: replace the presence of Cam Jordan, I think that matters. Again,

799
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 3: just a veteran pass rusher. I think that when push

800
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 3: comes a shove, they feel like they're in a win

801
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 3: now mode and it feels like they can go luxury

802
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 3: pick here with wide receiver or cornerback because you feel

803
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 3: good about this roster and Tyler Shuck. They just remind

804
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 3: me so much of the Denver Broncos from last year,

805
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 3: where you're taking this experienced quarterback, you feel good about

806
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 3: the pieces around him, the offensive line you feel is

807
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 3: being underrated, and you're playing again. It's different because le

808
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 3: Broncos played a much tougher division. But I think that

809
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 3: we've been pretty positive about the Saints. I think that

810
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 3: big NFL is pretty positive about the Saints. Hey, this

811
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 3: is a team that could take a step if Schuck

812
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 3: can continue to develop in Kellen Moore's offense with now

813
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 3: the full season under his belt as the starter. I

814
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 3: think adding another key wide receiver or cornerback could really

815
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 3: put this team, maybe not over the top, but to

816
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 3: the top of the NSC South, which again, you just

817
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 3: got to get into the tournament and then anything can happen.

818
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 3: So yeah, I agree with everything Deebra had to say.

819
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 3: I don't have much else to I.

820
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: Already did the hard rock read, so I'm not going

821
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: to do it again. So that's how much torment. All right,

822
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: let's get to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers here, Andrew Rickson,

823
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: you guys are on the same wave. Like again, you

824
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: both want to start out with edge, But what are

825
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 1: some of the other needs. Walk me through the Tampa

826
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: Bay Bucks needs for the twenty twenty six draft ed

827
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: rusher Reddick got three sacks last year and he may

828
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: not return. Yeah, yeah, Diabi.

829
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 3: He was the best pass pressure on the team in

830
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, but he's also in the final year

831
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 3: of his contract. They had the eighth lowest pressure rate

832
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 3: despite the fourth highest blitz rate. So Todd Bowles is

833
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 3: dialing up those blitzes and they are not hit. No,

834
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 3: so it's just like not working. And meanwhile his secondaries

835
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 3: continue to get shredded and they just lost their best cornerback.

836
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 3: Another need for my for the Buccaneers Jamal Dean. He

837
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 3: signed with the Pittsburgh Steelers, so I never think that

838
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 3: defensive tackle or hey, Todd Bowles has to get this

839
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 3: player to stop the run. Todd Bowles is going to

840
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 3: stop the run no matter what. He'll find a way.

841
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 3: He'll find someone that weighs three to fifty pound.

842
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: Name is Vita Bay who stopped the run.

843
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 3: Who also, to your point, Vidavea is also in a

844
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 3: contract here. So do they draft the air apparent to Vidavey?

845
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 3: I know Todd Bowles would love that in some capacity,

846
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 3: but I think they got to get more pressure on

847
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 3: the opposing quarterback. Jason Light has talked about that a

848
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 3: lot of hit a lot of his press conferences at

849
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 3: the NFL Combine And and yeah, so edge and cornerback

850
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 3: are really kind of the two big needs for me.

851
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: All right, Debro, take away the bucks? What do you mean?

852
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: I think? So I'll leave this off.

853
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 2: I think they feel better about their cornerback room than

854
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 2: we probably do because they've been addressing this. I feel

855
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 2: like they got ahead of the Jamel Dean stuff and

856
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 2: there other in Carlton Davis in previous classes with Zia McCollum,

857
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 2: Benjamin Morrison, and Jacob Pears. So I don't think they're

858
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 2: going to look for corner now. Could they still need

859
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 2: depth sure. I think it's been the same exact conversation

860
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 2: that we've been having for I mean, just copy and

861
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: paste this every freaking year, guys, edge, d tackle, linebacker.

862
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 2: Levante David probably retiring as we're recording this right now,

863
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 2: having his press conference today, so.

864
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: He's not going to be an answer for you this year.

865
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: Todd bowles to me.

866
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 2: The biggest two needs are edge and linebacker. They have

867
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 2: to rush the pastor they have to get somebody that

868
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 2: is competent in the linebacker room.

869
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the NFC West zero close

870
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: things out. Let's are the Arizona Cardinals. They need a quarterback,

871
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: they need some tackle help. They got plenty of running backs,

872
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: plenty of running backs, so we're good there, Deebra, walk

873
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: me through your thoughts on the Cardinals here. Talk to

874
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: me about what they might want to address here in

875
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: the draft. First top need for me would be quarterback.

876
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're going to go that direction

877
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 2: because Gardner Minshew, Jacoby Brissett.

878
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: It's a need.

879
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 2: Do they address it this year or do they kick

880
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 2: the can down the road one more year. If it's

881
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 2: not quarterback, it's right tackle.

882
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: JOHNA.

883
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: Williams gone, like they need to draft a tackle. They

884
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 2: probably do that in the first round. I think that's

885
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: their biggest need. I'll throw in safety, edge and cornerback

886
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 2: to kind of round this out. Losing Jalen Thompson and

887
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 2: free agency their edge, their edge room has not been

888
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 2: good over the last few seasons.

889
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: And cornerback.

890
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 2: Man, Like, you've got to get something outside of will

891
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 2: Johnson on this team. Like, are we really feeling like

892
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 2: we're good to go to war with Denzel Burke and

893
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 2: Garrett Williams and oh, dear lord, Sean Murphy Bunting's still

894
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 2: kicking around an NFL roster.

895
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: No, yes he is, Yes, he is one of the

896
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: great NFL names. Sean Murphy Bunting, love him all right? Uh,

897
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: Andrew Erics in Arizona Cardinals for you, how do they

898
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: address these needs to because it does feel like there's

899
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: still a multitude.

900
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,959
Speaker 3: Well, Sean Murphy Bunting second to only the other great

901
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 3: Cardinals name Dominic Rogers, Cromarty Mining just like f D

902
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 3: R C d R C H DRC. Remember when he

903
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 3: was on the Eagles with uh, what was it dr?

904
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 3: There was a dream team. There was another stud who

905
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 3: was the other stud corner on that team.

906
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: Oh, good lord, you're gonna make it's d R C

907
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: awesome wah.

908
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:43,919
Speaker 3: And then who's the other guy. I can't. I can't

909
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 3: remember his name.

910
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: I can't either right now, I can'tnot.

911
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 3: It was Stud. It was just like, yeah, it wasn't

912
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 3: Mike Big dream team. That was not good.

913
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 1: I could feel deeper. I was googling great three name

914
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:58,919
Speaker 1: players of the NFL. So I was Haja Clinton Dix. Yes,

915
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: geez it's one. They cow he was a packer, right

916
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: he was. He was one of the great names of

917
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: all time.

918
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 3: Let's see al the Albama.

919
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: I believe he did.

920
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 3: I believe was album.

921
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: So I'll double check there for you. Go ahead, I'll

922
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,399
Speaker 1: research Clinton Dicks. You talked to me about Mike Mayer

923
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 1: is tingling somewhere in the ether.

924
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 3: I need to know this third Eagles cornerback of the trio.

925
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 3: All right, just look up the twenty eleven Eagles. I

926
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 3: think that was the.

927
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't do both of these things at once. Yes,

928
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: he was an Alabamaha Clinton Dicks, so okay, all right,

929
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: and then I will talk about the Arizona Way. We're

930
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: just sitting here googling away here.

931
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 3: Deber did a great job of summarizing it. I think

932
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 3: I'm maybe a little bit higher on the secondary. I

933
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 3: think that they just had a part of the reason

934
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 3: the Carlos were so bad last year was everyone got injured.

935
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 3: They were one of the most injured teams last year,

936
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 3: specific on the defensive side of the football.

937
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: So not going to Suel non be awesome wah and

938
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: Dominique Rod Cromarty.

939
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 3: Something Samuel post Oh, yes, yeah, I guess that means true.

940
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: That that's the one you're looking for twenty eleven.

941
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 3: That's it, okay, dream? He doesn't.

942
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: He doesn't sound very happy with that answer. Joe many different,

943
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: Well something, Samuel was pretty good. Well, no, he was

944
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 1: hes king. Actually, if you ask, If you ask, it'll

945
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 1: tell you the Dream team struggled to live up to

946
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: their hype. And Moniker that's actually what do you want want? Wah.

947
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 3: Well, the thing is when your backup quarterback calls you

948
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:35,919
Speaker 3: the dream, it's not good.

949
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: It's not good.

950
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 3: It's never a good look. Cardinals back to them edge

951
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 3: thirtieth and PFF pass rush grade last year twenty ninth

952
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 3: and pressure rate generated. They really cannot go wrong. With

953
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 3: one of the top defensive players from Ohio State if

954
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 3: they decide to stick and pick at the number three,

955
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 3: although I do think that there's a chance that they

956
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 3: do what they did when they drafted Paris Johnson junior,

957
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 3: where they have a high pick, they trade back, collect

958
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 3: the assets, then trade back up and kind of finagle

959
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,720
Speaker 3: their way to get a top tackle in the class.

960
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 3: Because everyone agrees that they need to right tackle. We all,

961
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 3: it's on every single team needs for Arizona Cardinals, but

962
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 3: everyone also agrees that they don't love the value of

963
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 3: that necessarily at number three overall, when you have all

964
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 3: these top tier defensive players, So do they end up

965
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 3: trading back and dry grabbing like a Spencer Fano someone

966
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 3: along those lines to trade back into the teams that

967
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 3: they can get someone to come up to trade up

968
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 3: for one of these Ohio State oh defensive.

969
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 2: Play What if somebody hops the Titans and the Giants

970
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 2: for Jeremiah Love at three.

971
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 3: Or for Jeremiah I mean the Cardinals, I mean awesome,

972
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 3: we all love Jeremiah Love. We're gonna take up this high.

973
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 3: Everyone else is to jump them ahead of them to

974
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 3: get them. So that can make a lot of sense

975
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 3: I would not be surprised if the Cardinals try to

976
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 3: trade down here. But yeah, I think I think this

977
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 3: year's is just gonna be Jacoby Wessett quarterback. They're just

978
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 3: gonna roll with it unless they can get Ty Simpson

979
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 3: at the top round two.

980
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on for the Cardinals. Finally, it

981
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: took for to get to the Cardinals. I know that

982
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: the dream teams about DRC Andrews sending us down Eagles

983
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: rabbit holes here like us. All right, so the Rams,

984
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 1: obviously they need a new back for Matthew Stafford, but

985
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: that's not available, and i'll mean running back, just an

986
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: actual back for Matthew Stafford in backy out of me.

987
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 1: That's not available in the draft. You can't draft that.

988
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 1: So the best thing you do is protect that back

989
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: with offensive tackle. Yes, Andrew Rickson, that's the best thing

990
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: you can do.

991
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,959
Speaker 3: Yes, I do you think that. Although I am still

992
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 3: waiting for this Warren McClendon extension to be dropped. Okay,

993
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 3: they were throwing out rumors about, hey, we really like

994
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 3: this guy's our right tackle. Maybe not, we'll see if

995
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 3: they extend him. But I could see the betting ods

996
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 3: shift dramatically because that's what always happens is basically, oh,

997
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 3: this player just signed to this team. Okay, we have

998
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 3: the shift everything in all of our expectations about this team.

999
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 3: I do think they like McClendon. I think that wide

1000
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 3: receiver is a massive need for this team. Pookakua and

1001
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 3: de Monte Adams are both entering contract years. Pookakua is

1002
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 3: so excited about that Jaysn deal because he knows that, hey,

1003
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 3: I'm going to make a lot of freaking money as

1004
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 3: a wide receiver for the Rams as my number one.

1005
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 3: But the way he plays, he does get banged up,

1006
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 3: he does miss time every once in a while, So

1007
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 3: that's something of the Rams need to be conscious of

1008
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 3: when they decide to also add more pieces to this offense.

1009
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 3: Devantae Adams's contract year for him, he's thirty three years old,

1010
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 3: so he's not a long term option. And then behind them,

1011
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 3: who else is excited about? They have all a lot

1012
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 3: of tight ends, but I think that wide receiver makes

1013
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 3: a ton of sense for them.

1014
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: An no more tight ends, please, no more tight ends

1015
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 1: plays they.

1016
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 3: Draft and it's gonna say, can't wait.

1017
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: Well, if they do that, they need to then let everybody.

1018
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: These are trade off.

1019
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 3: You know, they're gonna be like, he's offensive weapon, he's

1020
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 3: not tight his offensive weapon.

1021
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 2: No, Sean McVay and the fourteen personnel. Baby, let's go fourteen.

1022
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: One time. All right, Debro rams for you, what are

1023
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: their needs? How do you rank them offensive tackle?

1024
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 2: If they don't extend mcclennon's number one wide receiver, two,

1025
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 2: I'll throw a cornerback in to number three here and

1026
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 2: and people could be surprised by that. Like, I know

1027
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 2: they brought in Trip mcduffy, they signed him. I know

1028
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,720
Speaker 2: they brought in Jim and Watson. After those two guys,

1029
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 2: Emmanuel Forbes U we've learned that deebro hates every cornerback room.

1030
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:15,479
Speaker 2: That's what we've learned in today.

1031
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 3: Which cornerbacks are you afraid of? I want to know?

1032
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, night, the dream, the Dream team dream.

1033
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 3: Obviously, Seriously, this room.

1034
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 1: Needs depth to it.

1035
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 2: If either one of those guys go down and get hurt,

1036
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 2: you're looking at a back of you. You're shoving Emmanuel

1037
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 2: Forbes on a Super Bowl contender, back into the starting lineup.

1038
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: We've seen what this looks like.

1039
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 3: Guys, all right, Emanuel Forbes are gonna haunt you in

1040
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,760
Speaker 3: your dreams. Well, you know all one hundred and sixty

1041
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 3: five pounds of them.

1042
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: Let's just go forty nine ers, deebro, Where do you

1043
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: want to start with their needs going into the season?

1044
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 1: Besides younger players? Uh, tackle guard?

1045
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 2: What you need to eventually at some point Trent Williams

1046
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 2: cannot play until he's fifty. They need to get a

1047
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 2: long term air apparent to Trent Williams. So I'm putting

1048
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 2: tackle number one, guard number two. I don't feel good

1049
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 2: about their other starting gods guard spot. I know they

1050
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 2: just signed a guy, but like, I just still don't

1051
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 2: feel really great about whoever they're going to start opposite

1052
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 2: Dominic Pooney linebacker. They still need help there. Yes, they

1053
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 2: brought back Drake Greenlaw. They also have a lot of

1054
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 2: guys that cannot stay healthy, man, like Fred warn or

1055
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 2: Drake Greenlaw. Like, it's not like they're the picture of health.

1056
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,439
Speaker 2: And I'll throw in, do you really want to walk

1057
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 2: in after all of the volume last year? Do we

1058
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 2: really want to walk into week one with Jordan James

1059
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,280
Speaker 2: as the RB two on this roster?

1060
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 1: I can't see it, man, All right, let's go to you.

1061
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: Andrew Erickson here, and let's get your take on this

1062
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 1: Western team, the San Francisco forty nine ers. How would

1063
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: you I think their needs?

1064
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 3: What's the priority edge, offensive tackle, offensive guard, trench players,

1065
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 3: which is pretty normal for the San Francisco forty nine ers.

1066
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 3: That's what they invest in the most during the NFL

1067
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 3: Draft last year. Thirtieth in pressure rate, thirty second in sacks,

1068
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 3: Brice Huff retired. I think that getting some of these

1069
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 3: guys back healthy will be a major boost to the defense.

1070
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 3: But not just expecting, oh, we'll get the same type

1071
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 3: of production with all these guys coming off season ending injuries.

1072
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Speaker 3: I think it's probably malepracticed by the forty nine er

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00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 3: so they think that, oh, we'll just get the same production.

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Speaker 3: So I would do that and then off it's a tackle,

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00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 3: Trent Williams replacement for him, wide receiver as well. Ketrick

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00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,720
Speaker 3: Bourne gone, Brandon Yuck's not coming back.

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Speaker 1: Deal, Brian Robinson junr. Is not coming back either, because

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00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: the Falcons just signed him.

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Speaker 3: It looks like, oh my god, so they really did it.

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Speaker 3: They did the b rob backfield.

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Speaker 1: Oh they did, dude.

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Speaker 3: There are gonna be some crush fantasy managers that take

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00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 3: Brian Robinson Junior.

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Speaker 1: There's gonna see Robinson touchdown there go yeah.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I can't the Falcon The Falcons are doing this

1086
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 3: is a bit because like, oh, we're gonna we're gonna

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00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 3: monopolize the B Robinson running back market. We're gonna both

1088
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 3: be Robinson's and it's just gonna be We thought another

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00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 3: a chan was bad.

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00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: Oh buddy, here's here's a fun uh, here's a fun tweet.

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00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 1: Somebody put B Robinson one oh one, B Robinson ten

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Speaker 1: oh one. It's good, sweet good tweet. It was a

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00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: good response. But yeah, so I just I just saw

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00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: it so up waiting for other people to confirm it.

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00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: But it seems like it's meet the Robinsons for the

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00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: Falcons backfield this year. Good times. Let's go to the

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00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks, the champs. We saved the best for last

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00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: maybe question mark, I don't know. They are the champs,

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00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: so they're the best right now. Andrew ericson what's their

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00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 1: biggest need and why is it running back? Gonna be rob.

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00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 3: Running back? Definitely a need. The lost Ken Walker's at

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00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 3: Sharbay Tours acl January nineteenth. He had a surgery on

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00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 3: February twenty it's probably not going to be ready for

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Speaker 3: the start.

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00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: No, it's not gonna be ready period. He might not

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00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 1: play this season because everyone just wrapped their minds the

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00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: play at some point.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, it's an a CL November gause. Guys

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00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 3: have come back from a c LS in nine months,

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00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 3: so clearly they're getting its November.

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00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: That's mid November. But that's exactly what I said.

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00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 3: He's not coming back at all.

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00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: But I mean, okay, I'll see you at Thanksgiving with

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00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: the rest of it.

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00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 3: Say that I'm not being punked, right, I did say.

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00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 1: That, but like September, October, November, like you might not

1117
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 1: see him till like well past the halfway point of this.

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00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 3: I'm just saying I said that he wasn't going to

1119
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 3: be back for the start of the year. We agreed

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00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 3: at some point Wilson is not the answer long term,

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00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 3: just a one year deal, very low amount of money

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00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 3: that they're paying him. I also think that guard Anthony

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00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 3: Bradford is a free agent twenty seven. They're starting center

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00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 3: miss some time last year, so right guard into your

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00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 3: office of line I think is another edition and then

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00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 3: another edge rusher after losing I think adding more depth

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00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 3: That's part of the reason why their defensive line was

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00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 3: so good last year because they had a lot of

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00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 3: depth pieces. So another edge rusher makes a lot of sense. Typically,

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00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 3: what you see from teams that are picking at the

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00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 3: end of the first round, they add those premium pieces

1132
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 3: like edge rushers.

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00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to Rup, go ahead, you're cracking yourself up.

1134
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: So I know, you know, I just want breaking news.

1135
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: We're in the NFC and all these things are happening

1136
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: in the NFC South. So we talked about the needs

1137
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 1: for the Buccaneers dating linebackers. They're definitely getting another one

1138
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 1: because Levante David just announced his retirement, so which is

1139
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: not shocking, but but still, you know, great player, that's

1140
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 1: what they got.

1141
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 3: Angeloni.

1142
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 1: They they did, but still need two more at least. Yeah,

1143
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:44,959
Speaker 1: I mean he should go in the Ring of Fame

1144
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: immediately down there. He had a great career with the box.

1145
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: But uh, but you know what, you also lose a

1146
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: real leader there on the Buccaneers too, which is I

1147
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: was gonna say, you just lost your leader on the

1148
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: offensive side and the defensive side of the football in

1149
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: the same offseason. That is rough goings here for the

1150
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 1: I might have to really think long and hard about

1151
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: that division in the south of which way I want

1152
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: to go wagering the you'll be happy to I don't know.

1153
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: Mayfield not crazy.

1154
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 3: It's a contract year for Baker Mayfield.

1155
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: It is a contract for Baker Mayfield. So it's interesting, Robinsons,

1156
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: things are in. Let's go off the rails. I got

1157
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 1: twelve thousand in twenty twenty seven.

1158
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 3: Does he go to the Rams? Does he take over

1159
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 3: for staff for next year?

1160
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 1: Oh? Oh, I doubt it. No, I don't know what

1161
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: before what that succession in the point if that happened.

1162
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: I'm did you have anything else to add about the

1163
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: Seahawks there? I'm sorry, I was just so just summer.

1164
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. It's good twice very good.

1165
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: No, No, I just didn't want I want to make

1166
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: sure that you got it all out.

1167
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 3: I want to make sure any more be rob signings.

1168
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 3: He's not going to sign in Seattle. I know I

1169
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 3: had put that into ether. That's no longer happening. So

1170
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 3: disappointed by that.

1171
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is this needs there you go so even

1172
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: more for the running back position. All right, dee bro Seahawks,

1173
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: what do they need here going into the draft.

1174
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,280
Speaker 2: I I agree with Andrew about running back and right guard.

1175
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 2: I'll also throw in a defensive tackle and cornerback here.

1176
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:09,919
Speaker 2: Devon Witherspoon is a free agent in twenty twenty seven?

1177
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: Does he do they?

1178
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 2: I mean, they just gave the back to Jackson, spin

1179
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 2: the jigbar. Are they going to pay Devon Witherspoon as well?

1180
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 2: We all talked about this offseason they had so much

1181
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,439
Speaker 2: cap space, but a lot of it was fraudulent cap space,

1182
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 2: like all this money was already spoken for for players

1183
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 2: already on the roster. So if they don't retain Witherspoon

1184
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 2: as well as in twenty twenty seven, Leonard Williams is

1185
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 2: a free agent, and so is dear call So getting

1186
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 2: ahead of cheaper options by drafting guys and the other

1187
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 2: thing we got to talk about here, Guys, they don't

1188
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,240
Speaker 2: have a lot of picks, Like they have their first, second,

1189
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 2: and third round pick and that's it outside of a

1190
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 2: pick at one eighty eight in the sixth round. So

1191
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 2: this is a team that's live to trade back from

1192
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 2: the first round, maybe trade back multiple times and get

1193
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,919
Speaker 2: a lot more picks. Because I'm not saying this roster

1194
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 2: needs help. I'm not saying that at all, but they

1195
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 2: do have some some needs along this roster, as when

1196
00:55:58,440 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 2: you look at for twenty twenty seven.

1197
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, and you also lost your offensive coordinator. There's

1198
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 1: a lot. It's a lot. You know, winning a Super

1199
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 1: Bowl is tough to repeat because you always end up

1200
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: losing coordinators. Typically you lose players, you know, year over

1201
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 1: year two and then there's other players who want to

1202
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,479
Speaker 1: get paid more, so you have holdouts. So the fact

1203
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: that they signed JSN and got that all kind of

1204
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: tied up, right. I was like, we got that done. Okay, cool,

1205
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: you know that's at least one thing off the plate there.

1206
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: But you know, you did lose Ken Walker, you lost

1207
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 1: a couple of the players. It's gonna be interesting to

1208
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: see how the Seattle Seahawks respond, especially because this division

1209
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,280
Speaker 1: is so tough. I mean, it's a very talented division.

1210
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: I don't know anybody who picked the Seattle Seahawks to

1211
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 1: win that division last year. I don't anybody, And I'm

1212
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: gonna be fastened to see how many people pick them

1213
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: to win this year. Well, I mean I picked them

1214
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: to go over their win total which was eight and

1215
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: a half because I thought it was too low. That

1216
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:48,399
Speaker 1: was the one thing that I and we even said

1217
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 1: it on some of those VP shows we did together.

1218
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 1: Andrew I was like, I think this defense is way

1219
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: better than an eight and a half win team. Like,

1220
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:55,919
Speaker 1: I think they're over I think they're double digit wins

1221
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: how they get their TBD, But I think they're going

1222
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: to get there. But going into this season, do you

1223
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: think you're gonna see a lot of people guys picking

1224
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: the Seahawks to win that division? They're the raigning champs ericson.

1225
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 1: Do you think so?

1226
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 3: Probably not?

1227
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: No, right, you see a lot of Rams. Yeah, and

1228
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: people love the forty nine ers. That's fair. I mean

1229
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough for them though. It's gonna be

1230
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: a tough sled. It's gonna be a tougher schedule.

1231
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,439
Speaker 2: This year is gonna have way tougher schedule. So you're

1232
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 2: gonna see it. Does that come down to earth? But

1233
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 2: I think I think the betting markets will probably equate

1234
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 2: some of that. I think it's really you're gonna they're

1235
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 2: gonna be fighting with the Rams. But I think I

1236
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 2: don't think they're gonna be like like just mine's eye,

1237
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 2: Like I can't see Seattle's odds going for the division

1238
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 2: above like plus two hundred.

1239
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: I mean, do you'll think it's out there? No, I

1240
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 1: think it'll be tight. Yeah, I think it'll be tight.

1241
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,439
Speaker 1: But at the same time, it'll be fascinating to see

1242
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: drop your comments everybody. I'm curious, who is your pick

1243
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: for the NFC West right now? Who do you think

1244
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:55,959
Speaker 1: is gonna win that division? Is it the Raining Champs,

1245
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: is the Rams, is the forty nine ers, It's probably

1246
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: not the Cardinals. Just putting that out there, but we'd

1247
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:01,720
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Speaker 1: the story of the game goes on for Andrew Erickson

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