1 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Psychology of Your Twenties, 2 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: the podcast where we talk through some of the big 3 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: life changes and transitions of our twenties and what they 4 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: mean for our psychology. Hello everybody, Welcome back to the show. 5 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the podcast. New listeners, old listeners, Wherever 6 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: you are in the world, it is so great to 7 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 1: have you here. Back for another episode another topic as 8 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: we break down the psychology of our twenties. Before we 9 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: get into it, I just want to say that this 10 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,639 Speaker 1: topic was a suggestion from one of our wonderful listeners 11 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: and I saw her message and I could not believe 12 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: that we hadn't spoken about it before, because it is 13 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: just that universal. So thank you to Abby in California 14 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: for your incredible suggestion and inspiration. If you have a 15 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: topic that you want me to cover, something going on 16 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: in your life, or that you've seen in the world 17 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: that you wish you had a psychological explanation for, please 18 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,919 Speaker 1: feel free to DM me on Instagram at that Psychology Podcast. 19 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: I would love to hear from you and whatever is 20 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: on your mind. But let's get back into it and 21 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: talk about our topic today, which is why do we 22 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: replay conversations. This happens to me all of the time, 23 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: almost at I would say, an unimaginable level, and not 24 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: just in the moments after the conversation or interaction, but 25 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: for days afterwards, and most of the time the conversations 26 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: I am replaying are not necessarily negative or awkward or 27 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: uncomfortable in the moment. I just can't shake this like 28 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: need to give myself a continuous play by play, watching 29 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: for things I may have said that were weird or embarrassing, 30 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: what the other person may have thought of me, examining 31 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: every very small minute detail. Maybe you're in the same 32 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: boat you relate to this description. You are also repeatedly 33 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 1: thinking over everything you know your boss may have said 34 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: at that last meeting, or that conversation you have with 35 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: a stranger at a house party, late night chats with 36 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: your partner, every small interaction with an acquaintance on the 37 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: street where you barely said a few words. It can 38 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: be so small, insignificant even, but you're left thinking, was 39 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: that strange? Was that awkward? What is their perception of me? 40 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: After that? Perhaps you're thinking back to that one thing 41 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: you said that maybe was a little bit weird, and 42 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: you're magnifying it as if it was the only thing said, 43 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: rather than in the context of a lot of other things, 44 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: and you're just wishing that you could take it back, 45 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: or sometimes we wish that we pushed deeper, we'd said more. 46 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: I think that is especially the case when we're having 47 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: conversations about things that are inherently vulnerable, like mental health, 48 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 1: where in the moment we're not quite sure what to say, 49 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: but afterwards we think of everything we wished we had said. 50 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: If you are someone in your twenties and you haven't 51 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: experienced that, I think you may be the anomaly, because 52 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 1: it's a feeling that emerges from so many secondary emotional 53 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: experiences that we're having in this decade, Feeling awkward, feeling 54 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: strange in our own skin, feeling insecure and inadequate, trying 55 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: to figure out how to manage nuanced and complicated emotions, 56 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: not just other people's emotions as well, but our own. 57 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: And it's not all about the conversation. In fact, I 58 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: think it rarely is about the contents of the conversation 59 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: that we're worried about. It is the personal weight that 60 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: we place on other people's perceptions and opinions of us. 61 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: It stems from our very deep desire to be accepted, 62 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: so we scan our memories for anything that indicates that 63 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: this person maybe didn't like us or thinks of us 64 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: in a way that is not aligned with the version 65 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: of us that we want people to see, who we 66 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: want people to think that we are. I think this 67 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: occurs for a few reasons. Number one is because our 68 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: brains are not relegating those unimportant conversations and forgetting about 69 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: them as we probably should. Our brains are holding them 70 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: at the same level of priority as more important situations 71 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: or interactions. So it causes this confusion between what is 72 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: actually worth us remembering and what is not. When we 73 00:04:54,839 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: replay conversations, what we're really experiencing is rumination. Involves repetitive 74 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: thinking or dwelling on past experiences and events, particularly the 75 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: negative aspects, sometimes, like we said, for weeks even months afterwards. 76 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: How I describe it is that our brains are stuck 77 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: in this loop or mental maze that we can't break 78 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: out of even when we want to. This preoccupation with 79 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: some small, probably negligible social interaction takes up so much 80 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: space in our mind. When we are replaying conversations, we 81 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: are experiencing two distinct types of this rumination pattern. Firstly, 82 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: we have post event processing, which is the pervasive, detailed 83 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: reviewing of socially failed or embarrassing activities or situations that 84 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: are perceived even more negatively in hindsight than they actually 85 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: work because of our anxiety, because of our the kind 86 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: of spotlight that we put on them. And secondly is 87 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: stress reactive rumination. So this involves constantly thinking about situations 88 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: that maybe cause stress or will cause stress in the 89 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: future as a way to dull their importance and look 90 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: for a solution to prepare for things that might arise 91 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:26,239 Speaker 1: might not. It's almost like, you know, catastrophizing the future 92 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: by looking at the past. So when I say that 93 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: rumination can dull the importance of conversations or the things 94 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: we may have said wrong, this may seem counterintuitive, but 95 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: really rumination exists as a way to self soothe or 96 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: emotionally regulate, even if it's maladaptive. By turning over a 97 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: memory or a conversation in our head over and over again, 98 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: it's like pushing on a fresh bruise. Right. It hurts, 99 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: but it also feels less painful the more we do 100 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: it because we're desensitizing ourselves. The metaphor I always give 101 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: is that rumination does to our memories as the ocean 102 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: kind of does to a pebble. With every moment we 103 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: spend thinking about it, we slowly smooth it out. We 104 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: slowly feel more comfortable with our thoughts or reflections of 105 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: what we said. We make ourselves more comfortable with our discomfort, 106 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: the same way that the ocean kind of smooths out 107 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: all the crevices on a rock. Some studies also suggest 108 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: that rumination provides us with an illusion of control. So 109 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: if we think about that interaction more and more, we 110 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: feel like we have more control over the event because 111 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: we've spent so much time thinking about it. Right, it's 112 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: kind of the same with overthinking. So when you worry 113 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: about something you mulled over, you're kind of trying to 114 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: prepare for if this person comes back and says to you, Hey, 115 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: that was really weird. Why did you say that? And 116 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: it's strangely satisfying to us because it allows us to 117 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: feel like we can kind of predict that this might happen. 118 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: We're in some way in control, prepared for what's coming. 119 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: By forcing ourselves to replay it again and again and again, 120 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: and of course that's not true. Unfortunately, you know, the 121 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: conversation is in the past. There's nothing we can do 122 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: to change it. Thinking about it more is not going 123 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: to change what someone else's perception of us is in 124 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: the moment. But rehashing future conversations based on past experiences 125 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 1: is another way that we keep ourselves stuck in these memories, 126 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: and I think it evolves as a way for us 127 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: to obviously prepare for how we want to change our behavior, 128 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: what we want to say in the future. If we 129 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: can identify what went wrong in that interaction that's causing 130 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: us embarrassment, we can prevent it from occurring again, so 131 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: we protect ourselves from the potential future opportunities to feel 132 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 1: cringe or to feel bad about ourselves. But that can 133 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: also morph into anticipatory anxiety, where when we are constantly 134 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: trying to prepare what we might say in a conversation, 135 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: how we're going to guide the conversation, we're making like 136 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: a mental checklist of topics, we actually become really fearful 137 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: of these imagined scenarios where we might not be as 138 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,719 Speaker 1: socially adept as we would like to be. And these scenarios. 139 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: They only exist in our heads, but they are causing 140 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: us really quite tangible and real fear. I think in 141 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: those moments, we have to remind ourselves why we care. 142 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: Why does this person's opinion matter so much that we 143 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: are taking allowing it to take up so much of 144 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: our limited cognitive capacity? Right? Is their opinion going to 145 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 1: do us physical harm? Is it going to stop the 146 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: real people in our life from loving us? Is it 147 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: going to make you any less happy? That is a 148 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 1: big question. Is it going to reduce your enjoyment of life? 149 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: Probably not unless you put emphasis on it, unless you 150 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: decide to think about it. Their thoughts are neither our 151 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: problem or our business. Honestly, who cares if you came 152 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: off weird? I say that is so much more authentic 153 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: than the people who are preoccupied with impressing other people 154 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,719 Speaker 1: at their own expense, And it really doesn't matter all 155 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: that much. We talk to thousands of people across a year. 156 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,359 Speaker 1: Not all of those conversations are going to be like incredible. 157 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: We're not always going to say the perfect thing. We're 158 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 1: always going to have regrets. We cannot hold on to 159 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: those because there's just so many of them that we 160 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: would have to keep locked up in our brain. Also 161 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: as an important reminder, people's memories are a lot shorter 162 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: than we think, and they are normally always too focused 163 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: on themselves to be critically analyzing our behavior. But that 164 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: inherent need to care, that needs to overthink small moments 165 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: comes from that social, very intuitive, social side of us 166 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: that craves closeness and fears alienation or social exclusion. To 167 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: explain this, let's talk about this idea of rejection sensitivity. 168 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: For those of us who are chronic overthinkers and replayers 169 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: when it comes to our social interactions, sometimes it can 170 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: come down to actually something deeper that's going on in 171 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: our brain, rejection sensitivity dysphoria and our old favorite social anxiety, 172 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: so rejection sensitivity dysphoria. This relates to our inability to 173 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: regulate our emotional responses to perceived rejection, not actual rejection, 174 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: but our own interpretation of a situation. For example, if 175 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 1: someone kind of slightly turns away from you or leaves 176 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: to go to the bathroom at a party whilst we're 177 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: in conversation with you. In five minutes later you see 178 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: them talking to someone else, You're going to pick up 179 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: on that maybe there is an explanation for why they 180 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: behave this way, but that is not obvious to you, 181 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: because you are more hyper vigilant to the social cues 182 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: that someone gives off that they are going to reject you. 183 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: And it also causes us to replay those interactions again 184 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: and again, because what if we missed one of those cues. 185 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: What if we are blindsided in the future by some 186 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: memory that we cringe out and that we're not prepared for. 187 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: What if a small moment or infraction is a symptom 188 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: to us of some greaterst social exodus. It's probably not, 189 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: but this also really links You know, the relationship between rumination, 190 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: replaying conversations, and social anxiety as well. You know that 191 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: this is the important thing. You would not be worried 192 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: about these people if you are not socially in tune 193 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: with yourself. And I saw this quote from a therapist 194 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: that I think captures this perfectly. She said, my most 195 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: anxious patients are often my smartest patients, because that anxiety 196 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: you are feeling comes from a feeling that you can 197 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: solve a problem by thinking about it more because you 198 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: are quite intelligent, and so we spend a lot more 199 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: time in our own heads. And it's also what makes 200 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: anxious people such perfectionists, because we're used to being able 201 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: to solve a problem by thinking about it more. Anxiety, 202 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: as we know it, comes in a lot of forms. 203 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: Anything that our brain can find scary or intimidating will 204 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: cause anxiety, especially for some people, certain or even all, 205 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: social situations. When we are socially anxious, that makes us 206 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: more alert to our potential flaws or quirks, all the 207 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: weird things that we say, and it causes us to 208 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: linger on them for a lot longer. Because we are 209 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: terrified of a perceived cost or consequence of being perceived negatively, 210 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: we see that as a threat. Not only does that 211 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: lead to a lot of excessive rumination, but potentially even 212 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: future avoidance of certain situations where we might not know anybody, 213 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: or we've had a weird experience with someone else who 214 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: is going, or there'll be big groups of people. Because 215 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: we are so hypervigilant towards those situations as potentially being 216 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: threatening to our sense of security and our sense of 217 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: social acceptance, we just don't go. We avoid them. It's 218 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: that disproportionate fear of social situations whereby our brain has 219 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: unintentionally elevated the importance of other people's opinions and judgments 220 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: such that they become a really deep catalyst for worry, stress, 221 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: even panic at times. So we replay conversations, I think 222 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: as a conclusion because a it is a way for 223 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: us to feel secure and to soothe ourselves and be 224 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: as a way to quote unquote identify our mistakes and 225 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: correct them, or be vigilant and aware of situations where 226 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: we may have socially sabotaged ourselves or where people might 227 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: think that we're weird because we appreciate that the opinions 228 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: of others matter to us. All of this can explain 229 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: the reasons why some of us find it hard to 230 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: let go of embarrassing conversations situations, even years after they happened. 231 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: It's like a permanent time capsule. I remember one time 232 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: talking to this person who I had like a massive 233 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: crush on at university, and I had a few glasses 234 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: of wine and I mispronounced this like one word and 235 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: then kind of like stumbled over my words, and he 236 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: laughed and like kind of looked around me to see 237 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: if anyone else had noticed. And still to this day, 238 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: I look at that memory, and I want to roll 239 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: into a ball and hide. It is so small, it 240 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: is such a small moment. But sometimes I even intentionally 241 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: bring it to mind to see if it still has 242 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: that same impact, and it always does. It's like the 243 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: feeling of embarrassment has not gone away. It's like a 244 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: permanent little scar in my mind of that one time 245 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: five years ago I said one thing weird to this 246 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: one person. So how do we let go of this 247 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: need to hold on to these memories, this instinct to 248 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: keep going over things in the past, conversation, social interactions, 249 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: whatever they may be. That is what I really want 250 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: to talk about next. How to stop overthinking your actions, 251 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: how to stop replaying conversations and letting yourself fall into 252 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: the mental trap that these people their opinion of you, 253 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: matters more than your own, and that somehow their judgments 254 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: of you carry a bigger weight than they actually do. 255 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 1: So we're going to talk about all of that and 256 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: more after this shortbreak. Spending so much time in our 257 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: brains and in thought patterns and spirals that we don't 258 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: want to be having can be really exhausting, to say 259 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: the very least, especially when we feel like we have 260 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 1: no control over the contents of these memories. Such is 261 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,959 Speaker 1: always the case with things that happened in the past. 262 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: So let's break down what we can do to change 263 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: this by kind of stripping back the rumination process. Firstly, 264 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: put things into perspective by leaning into the what if. 265 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: The easiest way to identify whether a thought is a 266 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: product of out anxiety or if it is real is 267 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: if the thought starts with what if. When we replay conversations, 268 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: the what if is often what if this person doesn't 269 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: like me? What if they thought I was awkward? What 270 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: if I said something weird? Instead of trying to work 271 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: through that thought spiral by getting stuck in the worst 272 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: case scenario, follow that scenario through to its end with me, 273 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 1: what if they don't like me, Well, then they may 274 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: not want to be my friend or spend time with me. Okay, 275 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: so what if they don't want to spend time with me, Well, 276 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: then I'll feel isolated and alone. What if I feel 277 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: isolated and alone, Well then I'll feel bad. What if 278 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: I feel bad? What next? Well, when you challenge that thought, 279 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: you find the baseline feeling that you actually are worried 280 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: about in this situation. It's not that you're worried about 281 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: this person's opinion, It's that you're worried about what their 282 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: opinion might cause for you, which is loneliness, which is rejection, 283 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: which is feeling isolated. So, instead of working towards fixing 284 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: your kind of ten and seed to replay conversations, work 285 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: towards increasing your confidence around your value and your enjoyment 286 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 1: of your own company, and you know, really strengthening the 287 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: friendships and your appreciation of the friendships and relationships that 288 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: will be there regardless of what you said in this 289 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: one conversation one time. Talking about our what ifs and 290 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 1: taking them to what I call their natural conclusion also 291 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: just shows us how irrational so many of our fears are. 292 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: Is it really the case that one thing you've said 293 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: in a conversation or one weird social interaction is going 294 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: to ruin you, is going to bring down your entire life? 295 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: Have you ever seen that happen to someone before? And 296 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about people who choose to be really 297 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: racist or sexist or homophobic, but people who maybe just 298 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: laughed at the wrong time or revealed maybe a little 299 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: bit too much. These people, their lives are not ruined 300 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 1: because they said one weird thing one time, but our 301 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: brains do like to catest and overthink. You know what 302 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: if we're the first one who that happens to. Like 303 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: I said, it is a way of problem solving. So 304 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 1: it's looking for the worst case scenario to prepare yourself, 305 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: despite the chances of that happening being very low. So 306 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: it's important to realize that your appraisal of a situation, 307 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: what you think this person might think about you is 308 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: a probably incorrect and be very irrational. We also need 309 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: to shift our attention our behavioral intention from valuing what 310 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: other people may think of us to valuing our own 311 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: authenticity and peace. Behavioral intentions are so powerful for changing 312 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: a number of behaviors, from things like diet to exercise habits, 313 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: how we treat others, and also how we treat ourselves. 314 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: Before going into a situation that you know might cause 315 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 1: you to ruminate after the fact or could be stressful, 316 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: set a behavioral intention in there. I am going to 317 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: let myself behave as I would like. I'm not going 318 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: to worry about other people. I'm going to say what's 319 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 1: on my mind without feeling embarrassed by it. I think 320 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: it's important to set a behavioral intention with yourself because 321 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 1: it reinforces this kind of your authenticity firstly, but this 322 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: positive belief that you are actually in control of a 323 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: situation and you are in control of whether you choose 324 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: to behave in a way that is true to yourself 325 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: or in a way that is attempting to make others 326 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: like you. Literally, you can talk to yourself and say, 327 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: I can choose to think about this, I can choose 328 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: to replay this conversation, or I can spend my time 329 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 1: on something more valuable. Which do I choose, and then 330 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 1: rationalize the urge to choose the replaying conversation option. I 331 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: know that I'm only doing this because I'm overthinking and 332 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: because of my social hypervigilance, not because of anything that 333 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: actually happened. I know that if I choose to replay 334 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: this conversation, it won't actually change anything about what was said. 335 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: It won't change a single thing, and even at the 336 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: end of the day, if it could, it doesn't really 337 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: matter if this person chooses to think of me some 338 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: way that is not my business, that has nothing to 339 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: do with me, unless they choose to bring it up. 340 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: Allow yourself to be emotionally detached from what other people 341 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: think about you. You're not invested in that. You can 342 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: also channel that urge because I know it is quite 343 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: a powerful urge and sometimes it's not easy to counteract. 344 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: But instead of suppressing it, you can also channel it 345 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: into more positive outlets, like discussing it with your friend 346 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: or your boyfriend. Whoever is removed from the situation might 347 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 1: be able to provide you with a rational voice when 348 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: you can't. Finally, we can process our needs to rep 349 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: conversations by taking ourselves out of our minds and into 350 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: our bodies, channeling that nervous contemplative energy into a different source. 351 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: Our anxiety is just as physical as it is mental. 352 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: It manifests in restlessness, fast breathing, headaches, being stick to 353 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: your stomach, and that all exacerbates our sense of emotional stress. 354 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: So it's kind of like this ongoing circle or cycle. 355 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: How we can interrupt that is, provide these anxious thoughts 356 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: with an outlet by activating what is known as our 357 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: skeletal muscle brain axis through tensing or contracting and then 358 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: releasing our muscles. So start from your calves all the 359 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: way to your neck, tense your muscles, release them. By 360 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: doing that, you're releasing a lot of that mental anguish 361 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: as well, and there are so many studies that demonstrate 362 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: the effect this has on relieving our spiraling or persistent thoughts, 363 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:00,239 Speaker 1: or just anxiety in general. We can also participate in 364 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: obviously sports, go to the gym, exercise, particularly activities that 365 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: give you a sense of moving forward, not in a 366 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: symbolic or a spiritual way, but literally just physically moving forward. 367 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 1: When we engage in these kinds of exercise, what we're 368 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: actually engaging in is this thing called lateral eye movement, 369 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: basically to break this down anxiety. And when we replay 370 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,959 Speaker 1: conversations that is anxiety. It is a fear response that 371 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: has evolved to help us confront danger. And the way 372 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 1: that we did this in the past and still to 373 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: this day is either by fighting back or fleeing, by 374 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: running away, and when we did this, all of that 375 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: adrenaline that was initially pumped into our body has a 376 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: place to go. We begin to feel calmer, we begin 377 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 1: to feel more focused, we feel like we're doing something 378 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: about the problem. By either fighting back or fleeing, you 379 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: can replicate that feeling of being active in the face 380 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: of danger when you go for a run or a 381 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: walk or a cycle. That forward movement makes you feel 382 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,719 Speaker 1: like you're escaping a threat. So in this case, that 383 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: might be someone's potential negative judgments. You can take that 384 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: anxiety and feel like you are progressing past it by 385 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 1: physically moving forward. And the exercise in itself also allows 386 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: a lot of that adrenaline, that cortisol, just that stress 387 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: to be kind of expelled from your body. I know 388 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: it sounds really strange, but it really does work. Next 389 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: time you're sitting there being like, oh my gosh, what 390 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: does this person think of me? I'm gonna be fined, 391 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna lose my job, this person's never gonna speak 392 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: to me again. I know it sounds so silly, but 393 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: go for a run and you'll feel that a lot 394 00:25:55,640 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: of the anxiety in that moment will definitely dissipate for you. 395 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: Here is your final reminder to give yourself a little 396 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,239 Speaker 1: bit of a reality check. Here. I say it all 397 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: the time, but no one is looking at you as 398 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: closely as you are looking at yourself. Can you remember 399 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: the last time you thought about something someone had said 400 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 1: and judged them for it permanently, and can you remember 401 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 1: exactly what they said? How did that change the relationship, 402 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: What did it really mean for you? You probably can't 403 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: remember that level of detail just as someone else can't 404 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 1: remember that level of detail about the conversation that you 405 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: just had with them. Try and replay your last conversation 406 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: that you had with I don't know, your coworker or 407 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 1: your friend. Replay every single moment in your head right now. 408 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: And I know that sounds counterintuitive, but when you start 409 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 1: to do that, you realize that there is a lot 410 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: of things that you can't really recall. And the same 411 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: goes for the other person. Our brain wants to pay 412 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: really great attention to our own actions and feelings rather 413 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: than others, and the same goes for the person that 414 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: you were talking to. Most of the time, we are 415 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 1: quite inward focused, and when it comes to replaying conversations, 416 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: recognizing that fact is something that can actually help put 417 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: things into perspective. No one is ever really that focused 418 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: on you, and that is quite liberating. It's freeing, and 419 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 1: it takes time to really embrace that. But the outcome 420 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: of recognizing that you really are just a lot more 421 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: critical than you need to be is that you release 422 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: yourself from that spiral and from that social examination. Furthermore, 423 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: even if you did something weird or you did something off, 424 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 1: So what human's memory. Our memory is so fallible. It 425 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: doesn't last as long as we think it does. And 426 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 1: like most things, that embarrassment is temporary. It's like a 427 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: small scab that may take a while to heal, but 428 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,479 Speaker 1: it will eventually. And to get really eca tessential. The 429 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: world is so large, there are so many people living 430 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: their own independent lives. There's like millions of other people 431 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: on this planet, and we're really only here for a 432 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 1: short time. That conversation you had, that weird thing you said, 433 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 1: is such a small moment in comparison to not just 434 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 1: like the length of your life and how much you 435 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: will do, but just in terms of the world and 436 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: everything else that's going on. You don't need to worry. 437 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: Everything is temporary. This feeling of embarrassment, of cringe, of 438 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: awkwardness is temporary. You will move past it. And I 439 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: promise you that most people probably don't even remember the 440 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: thing that you spend hours worrying about. So for all 441 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,719 Speaker 1: of my fellow people who love the conversational replay, I 442 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: really hope that this episode has helped you out. I 443 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: know I gave a lot of advice here, but I 444 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: will say I still do struggle with this. I think 445 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: if you're naturally like also an EmPATH, you're natural really 446 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: very like socially aware or socially conscious, self conscious more 447 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: like it. It's really hard to break that habit because 448 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: you have spent so many years of your life learning 449 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: to prioritize other people's opinions. So I hope that this 450 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: is just one small step to kind of greater mental 451 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: freedom when it comes to this rumination pattern. I hope 452 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: it gave you some practical tips to help you out. 453 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to say it again, thank you to Abby 454 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: who provided this episode suggestion. 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