Speaker 1: All right, let's get it going right here, right now.
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Speaker 1: and on the Creative Control Network. If you can see me,
Speaker 1: I know I'm very blurry eyes. Do I need new glasses?
Speaker 1: The eyes need focusing up here? I'm watching myself in
Speaker 1: the monitor to the left, and I just see blur mess.
Speaker 1: But at least I can hear you, because I'm Chad.
Speaker 1: By the way, that's the queen of Extreme Francine. I
Speaker 1: couldn't hear her and she can't see me. We're like
Speaker 1: a perfect like Helen Keller. Duo. Oh god, no, that's
Speaker 1: so terrible to say. Don't stay done. You know what
Speaker 1: I think happened. I had to get a separate piece
Speaker 1: for my what's this called? Set up my computer? Hard? No,
Speaker 1: what's it called? Not a PC? Not? Not? I mean
Speaker 1: not a was it desktop? Desktop? Say? This is ella
Speaker 1: savvy I am? Because I wanted to stream poker on Twitch.
Speaker 1: So we had to buy a doppel Is that what
Speaker 1: that's called? We had to buy a piece to add
Speaker 1: to uh, you know, so they can see where I
Speaker 1: live because you know, gambling is only legal in certain
Speaker 1: states or whatever. And I was able to stream last night,
Speaker 1: which was a success. It was lots of fun and
Speaker 1: great and all that stuff. But for some reason, it
Speaker 1: lagged me out of everything. So when I tried to
Speaker 1: get into my email, like it says we need your password,
Speaker 1: I was like, I forget it, and I'm trying all
Speaker 1: these passwords and it kicked me out of my Twitch.
Speaker 1: You can't. It kicked me out of all my accounts,
Speaker 1: and it messed with my microphone. That was quite the
Speaker 1: technical infrastructure you had to tackle right before we started.
Speaker 1: But I'm going to give you credit. You did a
Speaker 1: great job. I can hear you crystal clear. I was
Speaker 1: going deaf while you were doing it because it was
Speaker 1: it was like shocking me in my ears. I had
Speaker 1: to put my headphones like this. But you didn't give
Speaker 1: yourself a hand, all right, I will thank you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, Hubbs is the tech wizard and he's not
Speaker 1: here and I'm just alone. So I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: click different buttons and unplug things and plug them back in,
Speaker 1: and I think I did it correctly. So so does
Speaker 1: this poker? Does this open up a new world for you?
Speaker 1: Now that you have this thing to track your gambling.
Speaker 1: It opens up a new world on Twitch because I
Speaker 1: was kind of looking for something else to do on there,
Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, so I do an aaw
Speaker 1: watch along. I answer questions all the time like it's
Speaker 1: just chatting whatever. I took them pull side. They seem
Speaker 1: to have flect that a lot. But I was like,
Speaker 1: I wonder why, Okay, I can't imagine why. And then
Speaker 1: I tried gaming, you know, and that's okay. And I said, well,
Speaker 1: I play poker anyway, and I really enjoy it. Why
Speaker 1: don't I just throw it on twitch and see if
Speaker 1: it sticks? And I did a tournament last night and
Speaker 1: I actually finished in the money, which was fun. But
Speaker 1: I was on there for like three and a half hours,
Speaker 1: and you know, I have to I think I have
Speaker 1: to play earlier in the day because that's a long
Speaker 1: stretch for me. But it was good and I enjoy it,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna venture out and try that from them
Speaker 1: on so it's something to add to what I do.
Speaker 1: I saw your tweet and I was like, this is
Speaker 1: like past bedtime here now. I was sitting I was
Speaker 1: literally yawning, and I'm like, I'm so sorry, it's not you,
Speaker 1: it's me. It's just tired, and I was I wanted
Speaker 1: something to drink, but I didn't want to leave. You know,
Speaker 1: I wasn't prepared. I didn't bring anything with me. I
Speaker 1: brought like two SIPs of a ginger ale and that
Speaker 1: did not last for three and a half hours. So
Speaker 1: I was parched. I was hungry, which it didn't let
Speaker 1: me snack, which was good because sometimes I'll go and
Speaker 1: I'll get a little snacky poo late and that's not good.
Speaker 1: So I didn't snack last night. But I was exhausted.
Speaker 1: I was tired. Did you see cards in your head
Speaker 1: all night? Like numbers and cards? Yeh? I just you know.
Speaker 1: I My problem is I just need to slow it
Speaker 1: down because early on I had pocketjacks and the other
Speaker 1: guy I thought was just being a turd and he
Speaker 1: was raising and I'm like, oh, he's probably got ace king,
Speaker 1: he's got nothing. And here he caught something like on
Speaker 1: the turn road or the river. And if you don't
Speaker 1: know what this is, look it up. But Chad looks
Speaker 1: like he's very confused. But I don't know what the
Speaker 1: hell you're talking about. Well, we put our cards over.
Speaker 1: I was in the lead, and then the guy caught
Speaker 1: something as the cards flipped, and so I lost and
Speaker 1: I had to shoot another bullet, which means I had
Speaker 1: to pay another ten dollars. So I actually bet twenty
Speaker 1: and one at thirteen and change, so I took a
Speaker 1: six dollars and change loss. But it was for twitch,
Speaker 1: so it was good and it's building my hours up
Speaker 1: and hopefully I'll gain some new poker people that didn't
Speaker 1: know me from wrestling. So I don't know. I'm just
Speaker 1: trying stuff, you know me. I just try until it works,
Speaker 1: and then like two years you'll be on the celebrity
Speaker 1: poker toy battling, you know, battling like you know, like
Speaker 1: NFL greats and like you know, like former like singers
Speaker 1: and stuff. And Francine sitting there with her poker face.
Speaker 1: I wish we get your poker face. Let me see
Speaker 1: a poker face. Well, you don't need a poker face online.
Speaker 1: I just want to see your poker face. You have one, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like this is it gonna call? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: do I have anything? Oh my god, I have all
Speaker 1: the tails right on my face. Being like I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: people wear like sunglasses. They have a hoodie over them
Speaker 1: so you can't see anything. And it's just like I don't. No,
Speaker 1: I get very nervous when I play, and I need
Speaker 1: to just control myself and calm down because I'm a
Speaker 1: decent play I know, wear a mask. I'm a decent
Speaker 1: enough player. I know the rules and stuff. But I'm
Speaker 1: over zealous sometimes, so I just need to slow it
Speaker 1: down a little bit. Yeah, but I do enjoy it.
Speaker 1: So last night was a lot of fun, and I
Speaker 1: think the people watching had fun too, And I was
Speaker 1: I dropped some F bombs and oh, I know, and
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to, and I just kept going, sorry, sorry,
Speaker 1: it was just not me. But you tend to curse
Speaker 1: when you when you get a bad beat sometimes, So
Speaker 1: was it just a straight curse or combination word? Was
Speaker 1: it like I used? I used son of a bitch
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, I was using that one a lot.
Speaker 1: I think I dropped the F bomb two or three times.
Speaker 1: But I apologized and everybody was laughing at me. So overall,
Speaker 1: a great success. Do you So do you like completely
Speaker 1: like hide cursing from your kids as much as you can? Oh? Yes, absolutely,
Speaker 1: you talked about it before, but you know, just like
Speaker 1: they if they say like any do they know like
Speaker 1: X word is like a trigger semi curse word, and
Speaker 1: they stay away from it. Yeah, they don't curse. But
Speaker 1: once in a while, these YouTube videos for kids will
Speaker 1: have cursing in it, and I'll go whoa hey, and
Speaker 1: they'll go sorry. They freak out on me, Like if
Speaker 1: I'm doing something in another room and I say ship
Speaker 1: or something, I'll hear a swear word, swear word, and
Speaker 1: I'll go sorry and don't say that. Mom. I know
Speaker 1: I said that. I'm so sorry, but like you hardly hear.
Speaker 1: Like we never say f in front of the kids.
Speaker 1: It's we try not to, you know. I try not
Speaker 1: to curse it all in front of them. And that's
Speaker 1: the way to be. I agree, and I'm I'm pretty good. Uh.
Speaker 1: Brie was watching something at the table the other day
Speaker 1: and it said like what the hell, and I go,
Speaker 1: what are you watching? And she goes, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was looking it off of it. Then I'm not
Speaker 1: really sure what this is. But uh, I'm just flabbergasted
Speaker 1: by the amount of cursing in these videos that are
Speaker 1: aimed at kids. Yeah, and they should not be on YouTube.
Speaker 1: In my opinion. Maybe I'm just approved. But for you know,
Speaker 1: if you have younger children and there these are the
Speaker 1: kids who are clicking these links, they why do they
Speaker 1: have to drop an F bomb or say a curse
Speaker 1: word at all? It just I don't get it. It's
Speaker 1: an interesting little thing though, because I've seen it more
Speaker 1: like penetrate, not just these kids videos and YouTube videos,
Speaker 1: but journalism headlines, you know, more free to speak it
Speaker 1: on TV. And it's one of those things where it's
Speaker 1: like these are still taboo words, and especially if you
Speaker 1: read it in an article and then you just like this,
Speaker 1: if it's an opinion piece and the journalist is cursing
Speaker 1: drop an F bomb, I think it kind of takes
Speaker 1: away the credibility of the piece because if you're needing
Speaker 1: an easier word, maybe getting a little more creative and
Speaker 1: think of something that could fill in the blank. You know,
Speaker 1: It's funny too, because like a lot of wrestlers who
Speaker 1: use profanity, I've heard time and time again people say, well,
Speaker 1: they're only using it to get cheap heat. They only
Speaker 1: curse to get cheap heat, you know, And sometimes it
Speaker 1: is appropriate and other times it's overkill. So you got
Speaker 1: to pace yourself. Yeah, I mean, I've had that conversation
Speaker 1: with Shane, and he's the one who i'd put at
Speaker 1: the top of my head of work. But he and
Speaker 1: I have had that same discussion of certain places it
Speaker 1: doesn't belong. It's different in the entertainment realm. You read
Speaker 1: a book and there's an F bomb, it's like, all right,
Speaker 1: it's part of the story. You're watching a movie, there's
Speaker 1: an F bomb. That's part of the story. Wrestling. Wrestling
Speaker 1: could be real, so there's part of the story. You
Speaker 1: drop an F bomb and makes it that much more,
Speaker 1: you know, like impactful. Well, you're just reading a story,
Speaker 1: you know, especially like you know, during the tru presidency,
Speaker 1: you just see journalists dropping F bombs and you know,
Speaker 1: ship and this, and then it's like that's easy way
Speaker 1: out of writing an article or writing a piece. And
Speaker 1: I just I don't like, I personally don't like to
Speaker 1: read that stuff. Not to say it's not just with him,
Speaker 1: it's with everybody, but I just I hate that person. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just I look back on some
Speaker 1: of the promos that I did, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't if they if they removed the word bitch
Speaker 1: from television for you, you would have like two words.
Speaker 1: That joking joking, I'm joking. I was talking with somebody
Speaker 1: this week and we were we were discussing a few
Speaker 1: weeks ago how you and I were saying, you know,
Speaker 1: wouldn't it be funny if WWE bought Disney or Disney
Speaker 1: bought w W W w EE at Hollywood Studios. Well,
Speaker 1: this week they had a shitload of cuts. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I saw now. Wasn't it the was it the iconics
Speaker 1: or was that the prior one? That was the prior one?
Speaker 1: They did less of the talent releases this time, and
Speaker 1: more of the corporate releases this time, and just straight
Speaker 1: up virons and they clean house. Wow, So numbers must
Speaker 1: be really bad, because no numbers are good. They're keeping
Speaker 1: them up. They just felt some of the positions were redundant,
Speaker 1: I mean money wise, because that's I mean usually they
Speaker 1: do these budget cuts every year and they get rid
Speaker 1: of a whole lot of people every year, and I
Speaker 1: honestly feel like coronavirus just cut into their budget terribly. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Uh, you know, personal heat between the
Speaker 1: workers and like the the higher ups. Like somebody said,
Speaker 1: that Kevin Dunn hated the one iconic Billy Kay And
Speaker 1: I'm just like she was so over like that group
Speaker 1: to me was like so over. What was the Is
Speaker 1: it personal beef? Like? What is getting in the way?
Speaker 1: It just I don't know. I don't get it. I
Speaker 1: can understand money wise, but when you go after like
Speaker 1: people that are really good for the company, hard working,
Speaker 1: getting over doing their job well, and then you just
Speaker 1: get rid of them. That's why I always said anyone
Speaker 1: is replaceable. Yeah, you know, they just don't care. So
Speaker 1: I don't know. And the iconics, I mean, I gotta
Speaker 1: tell you probably not replaceable immediately, because where are you
Speaker 1: gonna find two Australian walents that are a team together
Speaker 1: that managed to have their unique ability to get heat
Speaker 1: and then become very love But they're from Australia. You
Speaker 1: would think that that's a box that's not gonna come
Speaker 1: along every five minutes. Two Australian girls that you could
Speaker 1: pair together like that, they'll they'll just give that gimmick
Speaker 1: to someone else. When we had Jazz on, you remember
Speaker 1: what she said. She came up with a tremendous storyline
Speaker 1: and they loved it and gave it to someone else
Speaker 1: and it was her idea, and it's like, are you
Speaker 1: kidding me? Like I just I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It just makes me happy that I'm not involved in
Speaker 1: that world anymore because it's so frustrating, Like I could
Speaker 1: just imagine those poor girls and the guy is just frustration.
Speaker 1: It doesn't look like the same business when you watch
Speaker 1: it on television anymore. And I just got done watching
Speaker 1: what we're gonna watch for our watch long. I watched
Speaker 1: the lead up, you know, the show going into the match,
Speaker 1: and it just does an uneasy w being separately and
Speaker 1: it's all cool, entity it just doesn't look like you're
Speaker 1: watching the same thing anymore. Yeah, you know, I don't watch,
Speaker 1: so I'm not. I'm always told you're not missing anything.
Speaker 1: I'm just not. It makes me sad, though, because I
Speaker 1: was such a huge fan back in the day and
Speaker 1: now I could care less and I couldn't care less.
Speaker 1: Rather is the expression, but it's it's terrible. It's terrible
Speaker 1: to feel that way. And I used to get excited
Speaker 1: for wrestling. I used to I used to run to
Speaker 1: my girlfriend's house to watch raw because I didn't have
Speaker 1: cable nine o'clock at night. I would run the street
Speaker 1: watched her, you know, to watch an hour's worth of
Speaker 1: wrestling because I couldn't see it online. And that was
Speaker 1: technically during a down period. Well for me, that was
Speaker 1: that was like my that was my Monday was complete.
Speaker 1: I just had to have that that hour wrestling and
Speaker 1: I was all week. It was a build up. I
Speaker 1: looked forward to the next that's so awesome. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: that's not that's not here anymore, like there's I don't
Speaker 1: crave it anymore, you know. And that to me doing
Speaker 1: that New Generation Era podcast that I do, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's basically we're talking about shows that were an
Speaker 1: hour and how much they crammed into that hour. Never
Speaker 1: never a loss for a minute, but to see how
Speaker 1: stuff developed, see how it played out. You couldn't miss
Speaker 1: it because it was that one hour a week that
Speaker 1: you had to get in and locked in. And it's like,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying to go back to an hour. You
Speaker 1: guys had an hour and the you know, you did
Speaker 1: you know the for the most part, right almost all
Speaker 1: up until TNN, right, it was no, we had an hour.
Speaker 1: We had an hour. It didn't extend, No, you got
Speaker 1: an hour TV and look how much you guys got done.
Speaker 1: And that to me is the beauty of it. And
Speaker 1: that's why I said, it's not the same kind of business.
Speaker 1: When you put on a wrestling show, it just doesn't
Speaker 1: and sports entertainment whatever, it just it doesn't feel the same. Also,
Speaker 1: I feel like when you extend it to two hours,
Speaker 1: three hours, whatever it is, it's a lot of filler.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of stuff that fans are going to
Speaker 1: go to the bathroom, go make a sandwich, go get
Speaker 1: a drink because they don't care about it. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of talking, unnecessary talking. It doesn't mean as much anymore,
Speaker 1: and it just it just bothers me because I want
Speaker 1: to love it. I want to. I want to have
Speaker 1: my DVR loaded and sit down on a Saturday afternoon
Speaker 1: and want to watch it. But I don't. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just don't. And that again, it's nothing against the workers.
Speaker 1: The workers are tremendous and they can do some great things.
Speaker 1: It's just the product itself that turns me off. Right now,
Speaker 1: I don't think I'll ever be a huge fan again,
Speaker 1: I really don't. Plus, I'm older, there's different things going
Speaker 1: on in my life. You know what I mean. Like
Speaker 1: some people say, oh, I've grown out of wrestling or whatever,
Speaker 1: and some people have been lifelong wrestling fans and they're
Speaker 1: struggling with today's product. You know, when I do the
Speaker 1: watch alongs, there's one guy in there who is absolutely
Speaker 1: every week punped. I think it's Sam. I think his
Speaker 1: name is Sam. He's a twenty year old kid, absolutely
Speaker 1: loves the product. And while the chat's going on, everybody's
Speaker 1: asking me questions about eastw Sam always comments about what's
Speaker 1: happening on AW every single week, and I'm just like,
Speaker 1: Sam's pumped, He's ready to go. He loves this. He's like,
Speaker 1: I just love wrestling, and I wish I was there
Speaker 1: and I used to be there like twenty something years ago,
Speaker 1: but I'm not there now. So it's crazy. It's just crazy,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, and that's you from studying the
Speaker 1: business as a fan and having worked in production and
Speaker 1: around the guys, I feel the same way. So I
Speaker 1: think it's just the era and that's that's it. The
Speaker 1: era is done. But here's the other side of it.
Speaker 1: This is better for you in the long run because
Speaker 1: people are going to be clamoring to see the older stars,
Speaker 1: and I think that the vintage stuff is what is
Speaker 1: really going to carry the history of wrestling now. Is
Speaker 1: anything basically before twenty ten is really now. I think
Speaker 1: is going to be more in demands of the conventions.
Speaker 1: And from what I've seen about the conventions that have happened,
Speaker 1: the one you went to and there was another one
Speaker 1: since people are coming back, yeah, yeah they are. Well,
Speaker 1: people want to get out, but I think that the
Speaker 1: product is causing people to want to go see the
Speaker 1: older stars too. That could be it. I still think
Speaker 1: everybody has cabin fever and they just want to get
Speaker 1: the hell out of the house, you know. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I I don't know. It's it's you either love it
Speaker 1: right now or you don't. There's really no middle ground.
Speaker 1: You know, You're either all in or you're just you're
Speaker 1: just changing the channel. And most people are changing the
Speaker 1: channel these days. So I think it'll be better once,
Speaker 1: you know, the fans start to come back to these
Speaker 1: shows and there's live audiences again, and especially for the workers,
Speaker 1: like we've said it time and time again, it's so
Speaker 1: hard to work in an empty arena, you know, And
Speaker 1: and I tip my hat to them, especially if you're
Speaker 1: a heel working off no energy whatsoever. So I feel
Speaker 1: like at least for the workers, momentum will go up
Speaker 1: because the crowds are coming back. So that's a good thing. Yeah, Jesus,
Speaker 1: they're going to go house show touring again. Wow, that's
Speaker 1: like house show business was down in the pits before coronavirus,
Speaker 1: and now it's like a twenty five city tour they announced.
Speaker 1: And I gotta be honest with you, that's all they
Speaker 1: should announce. They shouldn't pick up all those little shows
Speaker 1: because that's what drove the business model down. Keep them
Speaker 1: in the big areas. Well. I'm sure they're happy with,
Speaker 1: you know, the paychecks that they're going to get, because
Speaker 1: their pay is going to go up. But it's just
Speaker 1: what a weird what a weird year it's been. It's
Speaker 1: just crazy. Was the twenty twenty one supposed to be better?
Speaker 1: Like wasn't It's? Well, I think it's getting better, you know,
Speaker 1: I honestly think it's getting better. I don't you know,
Speaker 1: maybe you can enlighten me on this. And I don't
Speaker 1: mean to stir shit up, but I don't understand, like,
Speaker 1: you know, certain states are lifting the mask mandate and
Speaker 1: they're saying, well, you can go in these stores, you
Speaker 1: know if you're vaccinated, but we're not allowed to ask
Speaker 1: if you are or not. So don't you think just
Speaker 1: people who are just sick of wearing mask and not
Speaker 1: vaccinated just going to go in there and not wear
Speaker 1: a mask? What is the what is the point? It's
Speaker 1: the honesty system or the honor code, and I just
Speaker 1: don't think people are going to follow that. And I
Speaker 1: don't I don't understand the whole. I don't I don't
Speaker 1: get it. I saw an interview with Biden and he
Speaker 1: had said absolutely no vaccine passports, which I am in
Speaker 1: favor of. I I don't think I can't do that,
Speaker 1: no way. I'm one hundred percent and in agreement. I
Speaker 1: hope he doesn't change his mind down the line. But
Speaker 1: it's like, why even emphasize if you're vaccinated, like you
Speaker 1: don't have to wear a mask, Like no one's going
Speaker 1: to wear a mask if they If you don't have
Speaker 1: to share your card unless you're paranoid, then you honestly
Speaker 1: think the mask is protecting you. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: find it odd pulled it out. It's in my pocket
Speaker 1: from this morning because I had to run some errants.
Speaker 1: I personally feel if I go in there I didn't
Speaker 1: give accinated. I go in there and I don't have
Speaker 1: this thing on that I'm going to get scrutinized and
Speaker 1: I'm going to have somebody pick a fie with me
Speaker 1: or start with me, And I don't really don't want that.
Speaker 1: So I'd rather them need keep this on and them
Speaker 1: no I didn't give vaccinated, than have it off and
Speaker 1: potentially run into an issue now where it was vice
Speaker 1: versa two weeks ago. Yeah, so you know my state
Speaker 1: mask mandates lifted today? Actually no more mask right? Really? Wow,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that in September the kids still have
Speaker 1: to wear masks to school. Okay, that pisces me off
Speaker 1: to no stupid, it's so dumb, so stupid. Then I
Speaker 1: read Children's Hospital is giving out COVID vaccines to twelve
Speaker 1: and over, no parental permission required. Now, okay for a
Speaker 1: twelve year old, you're not gonna get permission from your parents.
Speaker 1: In Canada, they're offering free ice cream cones to children
Speaker 1: to just come and get the vaccine. Who the hell's
Speaker 1: gonna let their twelve year old just go wander off
Speaker 1: and get a vaccine, which isn't even a vaccine, but
Speaker 1: go get this shot and not have a parental figure
Speaker 1: with them. And now they're offering money to the adults
Speaker 1: because no one wants the vaccine anymore. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: a free beer. It just foggles my mind. I don't understand.
Speaker 1: Did you see the clip of the New York City
Speaker 1: mayor with hamburg Oh, it's the most disgusting. He's talking
Speaker 1: about how get your vaccine and get a what do
Speaker 1: you call one of the certificate for a burger from
Speaker 1: Shakeshack Right, So as he's talking about it, he's eating
Speaker 1: the burger, but he's enjoying every every every brite. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: Oh isn't this worth vaccine? Yeah? One burger in my
Speaker 1: life is gonna be worth it. One freaking stupid hamburger.
Speaker 1: I know the incentives. You can wipe your butt with them. Now.
Speaker 1: I did get my hair cut, okay, and I had
Speaker 1: it on going in. Well yeah, exactly. Well yeah, they're
Speaker 1: all it's all white now, so I get my yeah,
Speaker 1: my sideburns. Oh my god. She when she hear and
Speaker 1: I was like, where I thought they used to have
Speaker 1: a brown outline, this white outline underneath. So last time
Speaker 1: I went to get my haircut. You needed the mask
Speaker 1: on while you're getting the haircut, okay. And the lady
Speaker 1: who cut my hair complaining about masks the whole time,
Speaker 1: very funny. She was very uh, you know, it was entertaining.
Speaker 1: Same lady. This time, I go in with the mask on.
Speaker 1: I'm not paying attention to everybody. Nobody had a mask on,
Speaker 1: ladies sitting there, two ladies behind the counter. I just
Speaker 1: wasn't paying attention. I'm just used to going in having
Speaker 1: it done. And I started to walk around the counter
Speaker 1: and I go, oh, do you want this on? She goes,
Speaker 1: nobody else is wearing it. You could take it off.
Speaker 1: I go, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, here's again like
Speaker 1: I don't wish harm on anyone. I don't want, you know,
Speaker 1: a year from now, people, you know, getting all these
Speaker 1: health things coming up because of this vaccine. But I
Speaker 1: just don't feel like it's for me or for my
Speaker 1: immediate family. You know, I'm so definitely afraid that down
Speaker 1: the line something is going to happen. And you know,
Speaker 1: people are saying I'm ridiculous and I'm this, and I'm that,
Speaker 1: and I should just go get the shot. I'm not
Speaker 1: getting it. I'm not putting that into my kids' bodies
Speaker 1: like that's to me is ridiculous. I'm just I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't wish harm, and I hope I'm wrong, but
Speaker 1: I just feel like something bad is going to happen
Speaker 1: with this vaccine. And I pray to God that I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: But even if I am wrong and everybody's okay and
Speaker 1: Corona goes away, I'm still okay without it. So you know,
Speaker 1: I'm taking my chances, but I don't want to get it.
Speaker 1: I'm right there with you. And I told somebody the
Speaker 1: other day who we were just talking casually, and I said,
Speaker 1: by the way, I don't know. I you can see
Speaker 1: I'm clear now. It's because you'd finished. I look great,
Speaker 1: don't I. So I was talking to somebody casually and
Speaker 1: just the vaccine came up quickly, wasn't We weren't even
Speaker 1: talking about it. And he goes, well, I got I
Speaker 1: had to get it because I worked this close to children,
Speaker 1: and Bob, I go, He goes, but I didn't want
Speaker 1: to get it. I go, okay, I go, I'm not
Speaker 1: getting in. I go. You know it's not political. I said,
Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with it. I go, you know,
Speaker 1: don't feel comfortable. That's really it. It's not nothing to
Speaker 1: do with it. And he goes, oh, well, mine was
Speaker 1: completely political. I had to do it. He goes, because
Speaker 1: all I was going to face scrutiny. He runs a
Speaker 1: gymnastics gym. And he goes, If I didn't get it,
Speaker 1: people were gonna pull their kids out and this and that.
Speaker 1: I had to get it. You know, your body, your choice.
Speaker 1: That's that's the way I look at it. But I'm
Speaker 1: so tired of people. Like they'll tell me I got
Speaker 1: the vaccine, like, and I go, yeah, exactly, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh well, I'm like, I answered back, that's great. I
Speaker 1: hope you know, I hope you don't have any side effects.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to get it. And then they holler
Speaker 1: at me because I'm not getting it. But I didn't
Speaker 1: holler at them for getting it right, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, I don't you can't win. I'm just like,
Speaker 1: I'm so tired. I'm so tired of this, Like, just
Speaker 1: get the hell out of your corona away. Let me
Speaker 1: ask you a question. Do you think buff Bagwell was
Speaker 1: wearing his mask when he he got pulled over the
Speaker 1: other day. I think buff Bagwell was wearing it over
Speaker 1: his eyes because this guy great segue. By the way, Yeah,
Speaker 1: let me do my buff thing. Yeah, oh there you go.
Speaker 1: Well look and you got the high and the glasses
Speaker 1: you were. That's right, a dead ringer for mister Bagwell.
Speaker 1: Former w W WCW star Marcus buff Bagwell arrested on
Speaker 1: more than ten charges. Ten that's a lot. That's a
Speaker 1: that's like, that's like a year's worth of rest. That's
Speaker 1: what we call. That's what we call in my neighborhood,
Speaker 1: a shitload. So buff is now fifty one years old,
Speaker 1: was involved in another corner crash. I suppose. Uh, And
Speaker 1: they're saying, let me see was this When did this happen?
Speaker 1: This was like, uh, we're recording this Friday. I think
Speaker 1: this was Monday or Tuesday. This dropped. Okay, So here
Speaker 1: are the charges. Misdemeanor driving under the influence of drugs,
Speaker 1: misdemeanor open container violation, four misdemeanor charges of hid and run,
Speaker 1: misdemeanor speeding, misdemeanor failing to yield when entering an intersection,
Speaker 1: misdemeanor giving false name or address of birthday to law
Speaker 1: enforcement officer. Three name Scotty Riggs. How you doing no?
Speaker 1: I love Scotty Riggs. Three charges of following too closely
Speaker 1: and a misdemeanor reckless driving and a misdemeanor driving with
Speaker 1: a gore or meetan or emergency lane, misdemeanor duty upon
Speaker 1: striking a fixed object, misdemeanor driving on the wrong side
Speaker 1: of the roadway, and a misdemeter license to be carried
Speaker 1: and exhibited on demand, which means he didn't he didn't
Speaker 1: have his license correct that I don't know. That's way
Speaker 1: too inside Lingo for me. And exhibited on demand. I
Speaker 1: would think he'd get or some sort of papers, whether
Speaker 1: it was licensed registration. Okay, so that equals ten. Goodness gracious.
Speaker 1: It says he was bonded out of jail on that
Speaker 1: Saturday after getting booked at two of five the same day.
Speaker 1: He was out at nine fifteen, so in the morning
Speaker 1: at night. I'm sorry. The car crash was in August,
Speaker 1: by the way, Oh, okay, got it. That was But
Speaker 1: this one I think he did. He hit four different cars.
Speaker 1: What is the deal with this? Somebody said he was
Speaker 1: on prescription drugs at the time. Well, I could see it.
Speaker 1: It's troublesome. That is very troublesome. I mean he looks.
Speaker 1: I mean no offense to Buff love. Buff had many
Speaker 1: a laugh at Buff. He looks, He looks terrible. He
Speaker 1: looks different his picture. When I saw his picture, I
Speaker 1: didn't even think it was him. I was like, do
Speaker 1: they have the wrong picture? Up? Didn't even look like
Speaker 1: him to me. Buff carneed me and John very badly
Speaker 1: at a at a show do tell the story and
Speaker 1: ended the relationship with Buff. He just tould Shenanigan's about
Speaker 1: hotel rooms and flights and transportation after everything was already
Speaker 1: taken care of. Last minute, no, no no, last minute. It
Speaker 1: was you know, he had to fly his girlfriend with him.
Speaker 1: We would that was not a part of the deal.
Speaker 1: He needed he needed the flight paid for, and he
Speaker 1: needed to upgrade his room. He needed the room paid for.
Speaker 1: And it was like, you know, Buff, like you were
Speaker 1: so cool, literally up until it was time to say goodbye.
Speaker 1: You could have said this two hours ago. We could
Speaker 1: have worked on it or something like that. Did you
Speaker 1: not fulfill his needs? What do you think? I don't know.
Speaker 1: We had to take care of because there was still
Speaker 1: another booking to go to. Every see I would have said, note,
Speaker 1: you're done. It was about flying your girlfriend in. We
Speaker 1: gave I think we know we gave him half in
Speaker 1: the meantime, how about flying my family and and putting
Speaker 1: us up at Walt Disney World. The whole thing was
Speaker 1: go in. He was supposed to go in and out
Speaker 1: same day. Okay, he's gonna be going late, late night
Speaker 1: flight flight back to Georgia. How did you know, did
Speaker 1: a very convincing story about him. I want to stay
Speaker 1: in the hotel room by himself. You know, has a
Speaker 1: fear about that because the things that have happened to
Speaker 1: the boys. Blah blah blah. All right, we get it changed,
Speaker 1: the flight brought the girlfriend, needed the girlfriend's flight paid for,
Speaker 1: then had to upgrade his room, had to get the
Speaker 1: upgrade paid for. So we had to meet him in
Speaker 1: the middle kind of thing. And did this as we
Speaker 1: were saying goodbye to go meet him at the next
Speaker 1: booking that we had that night. Yeah, didn't like it.
Speaker 1: Didn't like it. No, and stuff like that will not
Speaker 1: get you booked to. Hasn't worked with them since, no,
Speaker 1: I know. And he looked great, he was buff. That
Speaker 1: was in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen. Yeah, great, he was ripped.
Speaker 1: He was painting on his hair. He looked like Buff
Speaker 1: painted on his It was. It was hot as balls
Speaker 1: was August. He kept on wiping the brow, checking the hair,
Speaker 1: making sure the hat was on. He was. He still
Speaker 1: looked exactly like Buff. That guy in that picture troublesome.
Speaker 1: It makes me sad to see like all these people
Speaker 1: who are just falling apart, you know. It just and
Speaker 1: I don't know him. I don't know him. I might
Speaker 1: have met him once, you know, but I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't know him well at all. But just you know,
Speaker 1: the brotherhood of the wrestling world. It just makes you
Speaker 1: sad to see, like when people do that to themselves.
Speaker 1: So it's it's sad to uh to read articles like that.
Speaker 1: I don't like it. Yeah, you know what's interesting with
Speaker 1: him though, And I think, especially in my case in
Speaker 1: dealing with him, I just feel like I'm one in
Speaker 1: the many that he's probably done that too. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and burn bridges across the way, So who wants to
Speaker 1: book him anymore? And then he was because he was clean,
Speaker 1: presumably he had just had shoulder surgery. I mean again,
Speaker 1: he looked great. He looked like how he did on
Speaker 1: TV in the nineties. He looked awesome, and that was
Speaker 1: only five or six years ago. Yeah, and I think
Speaker 1: in those last five or six years he's just burned
Speaker 1: bridges and he's just kind of got a bad reputation.
Speaker 1: And he still thinks it's nWo flying first class everywhere
Speaker 1: he goes. No, I'm serious, I really think that. And
Speaker 1: when that stopped and people didn't, he just kind of crumbled.
Speaker 1: He fell apart. There's a ton of interviews. I know
Speaker 1: you're gonna be doing a Hannibal interview. He did an
Speaker 1: interview with Hannibal that I think was the first little
Speaker 1: crack in the armor exposing what was going on. He
Speaker 1: sounds like he's blasted out of his brains. I you know,
Speaker 1: I honestly feel like a lot of the boys can't
Speaker 1: let go. Yeah, they think it's still their heyday, and
Speaker 1: you know, like we're not on TV anymore. We're not
Speaker 1: in our twenties and early thirties. You know, we're in
Speaker 1: our late forties, fifties, some of them are in their sixties.
Speaker 1: But they still feel like they need to live that
Speaker 1: rock star lifestyle. And it's hard because when this is
Speaker 1: all you've ever done with your life. It's hard to
Speaker 1: just go to like something normal and get like a
Speaker 1: normal job. And it burns me up when fans are like,
Speaker 1: oh he works at Target. Now, oh he's a garbage man.
Speaker 1: Oh he you know, he does something other than wrestling,
Speaker 1: like beneath them, And I always say, what is wrong
Speaker 1: with that? They're providing for their fans. They're working. It's
Speaker 1: a job, like stop, you know, what is your job?
Speaker 1: What do you do for a living? That's so glorious
Speaker 1: that you have to make fun of somebody for working
Speaker 1: at a target or being a sanitation worker. Anybody who
Speaker 1: has a job providing money for themselves and their family
Speaker 1: is okay in my book. You know, I feel like
Speaker 1: there's so much pressure to just maintain that. And now
Speaker 1: it's considered like a fantasy anymore, because we're not the
Speaker 1: people that we were twenty years ago, just an image
Speaker 1: of them. Some of us are still hanging on trying
Speaker 1: to stay relevant. But with me, like I found a
Speaker 1: common ground. I know I'm not the Francine of twenty
Speaker 1: years ago. I get that, and I'm okay with that,
Speaker 1: you know, and I do what I can do because
Speaker 1: I'm having fun with it. And it is a job
Speaker 1: and I do make an income from it, but I
Speaker 1: don't go out there, you know, thinking I'm still the
Speaker 1: shit from nineteen ninety six. I know, I'm forty nine
Speaker 1: years old. I'm a mother of two. You know. My
Speaker 1: main priority in life is being a mother to my
Speaker 1: children and taking care of my family. That's where my
Speaker 1: mindset is at. The wrestling falls a very distant second, right,
Speaker 1: And I do it because it's fun and it does
Speaker 1: help with bills. But I have learned to let go
Speaker 1: of that whole. You know, Oh, she's the Queen of exture. No,
Speaker 1: I'm just the mom, you know, I'm just the mom
Speaker 1: hanging out and if people want to meet me, that's
Speaker 1: a bonus. But these guys go to these signings and
Speaker 1: still demand this, that and the other thing, and it's
Speaker 1: like we're past our prime. Like you know what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to say, And I'm not trying to really do
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to disrespect anyone, but you have to
Speaker 1: look at it in real time and not get into
Speaker 1: a time machine and pretend it's twenty thirty years ago
Speaker 1: and look at it that way. That's not the way
Speaker 1: I look at it. And I feel like people would
Speaker 1: live a better life if they could just separate that
Speaker 1: in their minds, you know what I mean. And I
Speaker 1: know people have demons, and I'm blessed that I never
Speaker 1: fell down that rabbit hole with like drugs and alcohol
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. It's terrible. Addiction is a terrible thing.
Speaker 1: But a lot of these guys that's all they know.
Speaker 1: And it's like that movie The Wrestler when you see
Speaker 1: him sitting there and one or two people come to
Speaker 1: the table and it's just him looking around. That broke
Speaker 1: my heart. That was so hard to watch, and I
Speaker 1: told myself, I will never get to that stage. And
Speaker 1: it's just sad because a lot of guys are there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they won't let go. If you go back to when
Speaker 1: The Wrestler came out two thousand and six issue or something,
Speaker 1: or two thousand and whenever, it was the conventions that
Speaker 1: were about ten years prior to that movie coming out,
Speaker 1: is exactly what that movie looked like by that point.
Speaker 1: It evolved a little bit, that was a little more
Speaker 1: of a dramatic take. But if you went back to
Speaker 1: looking at the guys that were at the audio, not
Speaker 1: even conventions, they were more just card shows and you'd
Speaker 1: see them. Yeah, you'd see the older guys and you'd
Speaker 1: see they're walking with kine, they got the prosthetic leg,
Speaker 1: they got this, but they're the old old timers. That's
Speaker 1: what that movie portrayed. But what it also portrayed was
Speaker 1: exactly what you're talking about. The guys that he looked
Speaker 1: how he looked in that movie The Long Hair, the Tan,
Speaker 1: he was still doing this and he's walking through his job.
Speaker 1: He's walking through the what the meat department, and he
Speaker 1: comes to like he was walking through the entrance. I
Speaker 1: thought that was so well done and give you a
Speaker 1: real look into real life that it kind of hit home.
Speaker 1: I'm sure for more people in your generation and a
Speaker 1: little bit before you and your generation, not the old
Speaker 1: old timers that were old timers when you broke in.
Speaker 1: Those are the guys that I think they were kind
Speaker 1: of portraying in that one, you know, autograph show scene. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just it's heartbreaking to watch, you know, And it
Speaker 1: might be different for me because I am a female
Speaker 1: in the business, and you know, I have other things
Speaker 1: going on, and it wasn't my lifelong dream to be
Speaker 1: in professional wrestling, So it's you know, I'm not at
Speaker 1: the same level as the other guys with the mentality
Speaker 1: of the business. Right. I always knew there was something
Speaker 1: more for me in life than just wrestling, and that
Speaker 1: was to have a family. And you know, for me,
Speaker 1: like if I never did another convention again, I'd be okay,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't kill me. I do enjoy them. I do
Speaker 1: enjoy meeting fans and stuff. But like I tell you
Speaker 1: all the time, I pick and choose where I want
Speaker 1: to go. My time with my family is way more important.
Speaker 1: And I'm not going to leave the house for a
Speaker 1: couple hundred bucks. Like it's just and I don't mean
Speaker 1: to sound like a dick about it, but that's just
Speaker 1: where I'm at. And people want to pay, that's great.
Speaker 1: And if they don't want to pay, understood us, stay
Speaker 1: home and I'll enjoy my time with my family. That's
Speaker 1: where I'm at. I love that. I personally love that
Speaker 1: because that's the priorities of life, and that's that's you
Speaker 1: know it really for me to hear that from you,
Speaker 1: I love to hear it. It's like it's it's a
Speaker 1: real heartwarming thing. But I remember just going back to
Speaker 1: real jobs. Let me ask you this if you if
Speaker 1: you were in a position where you had to work, right,
Speaker 1: you had to work, but you still had yourself out there.
Speaker 1: You still do when conventions are you know, shot in
Speaker 1: an Indian you know, just appearing, not not wrestling, but appearing. Yes,
Speaker 1: would you hide what you did from your job? Your job? Like,
Speaker 1: would you like I'm saying, if you had a job,
Speaker 1: would you try to hide the wrestling side of your life?
Speaker 1: You know, I've said this before, like I never talk
Speaker 1: about what I used to do unless it's necessary. Right,
Speaker 1: when I started with a chiropractor, I had to tell
Speaker 1: them what I did because I was so messed up.
Speaker 1: It's you know, oh I fell down the stairs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they thought you were crash dummy. There were so much
Speaker 1: wrong with me, so I had There's certain things that
Speaker 1: I had to tell certain people. But like I told
Speaker 1: you countless number of times when my children were in
Speaker 1: school and I volunteered and I practically lived at the school,
Speaker 1: I never once mentioned what I did. You never know
Speaker 1: what that other person is thinking, you know, And I
Speaker 1: don't like when people look at me funny or judge
Speaker 1: me for what I've done in the pan, Like I
Speaker 1: would probably just keep my mouth shut and if somebody
Speaker 1: had mentioned it they recognized me, then you're like, because
Speaker 1: there's that one guy who's just like this, you staring.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not one to say just say it.
Speaker 1: I just keep it under wraps, and if it came up,
Speaker 1: it came up. But I'm blessed because, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't have to go and get a desk job or
Speaker 1: work retail or anything like that. I'm married to a
Speaker 1: man who has a very very good career, and I
Speaker 1: work because I like to help and I like things
Speaker 1: for myself. And I don't want to go to my
Speaker 1: husband and say, hey, can I have fifty dollars because
Speaker 1: I want to buy some makeup? Or can I have
Speaker 1: this because I want to dress. No, I want to
Speaker 1: work and I want to buy it myself, and I
Speaker 1: don't want to bother anybody. You know, I want to
Speaker 1: earn my own money, but I do. You know, Like
Speaker 1: this year that just passed, I gave a considerable amount
Speaker 1: of money towards Disney, and I was proud of that
Speaker 1: because I worked hard for it and I was able
Speaker 1: to pay and get us a nice trip. And that's
Speaker 1: what I like to do. I like to contribute and
Speaker 1: I do it when I can, But I'm sorry, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to leave my house for some shitty offer.
Speaker 1: It's not happened. I and a lot of guys have
Speaker 1: to do that because this is their bread and butter.
Speaker 1: You know. I understand not everyone can hold out for
Speaker 1: the number that they want because they have to pay
Speaker 1: their bills. I get it. That's why I'm lucky enough
Speaker 1: to be in a position where I can hold out
Speaker 1: and if I don't want to go, I just simply
Speaker 1: don't go. They turn it down, they might not get
Speaker 1: something to work that weekend, No, and then what do
Speaker 1: they do. You know that those are the men who
Speaker 1: have nothing to fall back, one who didn't you know,
Speaker 1: didn't save their money. They need to eat, they need
Speaker 1: to pay pills. I understand that, you know. But they're
Speaker 1: also part of the group that can't let go and
Speaker 1: who feel like I'm not going to get a job
Speaker 1: they don't want to. I don't know. I've heard some
Speaker 1: guys say that's beneath me. I was on tape, was this,
Speaker 1: I was that, And I'm just like, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: And if that's the mentality, then so be it. If
Speaker 1: you like hustling and getting out there every weekend because
Speaker 1: some of the boys are addicted. It's like a drug.
Speaker 1: They're addicted to the business, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But are you addicted to these shit paydays that you're
Speaker 1: getting and they can't help it. You might get an
Speaker 1: offer for two fifty the one weekend and then twelve
Speaker 1: fifty the next weekend. It's crazy how it fluctuates. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and some of these guys they don't they don't have
Speaker 1: a choice to turn it down. They have to go.
Speaker 1: I understand that, but I just for me, it's that's
Speaker 1: not what I that's not what I want to do.
Speaker 1: So I remember, you know, gosh, fifteen years ago whatever
Speaker 1: it was, and it was very public at the time,
Speaker 1: and it was around the time I was going to
Speaker 1: shows with them. But when PJ was working for the
Speaker 1: Olive Garden or he had I don't know how that
Speaker 1: got out. Somebody saw him working for Olive Garden and
Speaker 1: it was, oh, why he works in a restaurant. Actually,
Speaker 1: you know, when I knew him, he worked as he
Speaker 1: worked for Target. Okay, and he quit that job because
Speaker 1: somebody recognized him. But it's durable. The thing about Olive
Speaker 1: Garden that was a big slap in the face, and
Speaker 1: why I lose a lot of respect for fans that
Speaker 1: say these kinds of things. He wasn't working at the
Speaker 1: Olive Garden. He was in like an executive chef program.
Speaker 1: He was studying to get like what the hell? But
Speaker 1: he stops working at Olive Garden now because of this.
Speaker 1: It was ridiculous and I just that's to me. There's
Speaker 1: a clip of Rick Flair talking about Shane and Shane,
Speaker 1: you know, being the same thing, Shane being in in
Speaker 1: a management program, right, and Rick Flair buries him. And
Speaker 1: that's well with Rick Flair, okay, because that's why between
Speaker 1: the two, right, But that's all he knows. Rick Flair
Speaker 1: doesn't he doesn't know what it's like to have to
Speaker 1: go out and really fight for whatever. Guess what, Rick
Speaker 1: Flair is blessed to Rick Flair and to have all
Speaker 1: of these opportunities and to get paid an absorbent amount
Speaker 1: of money to make these you know, these shots that
Speaker 1: he's able to make. And you know, if we could
Speaker 1: all be like Rick Flair, whoa we'd be it'd be great.
Speaker 1: But you know we Shane and I have had this discussion.
Speaker 1: Rick Flair is great at what he does. There are
Speaker 1: so many people in this industry who are getting paid
Speaker 1: thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars to make these appearances.
Speaker 1: The people that come from ECW, there's one or two
Speaker 1: that I can think of that are making really top
Speaker 1: money on the andes, and then the rest are just
Speaker 1: doing what they need to do to get by. And
Speaker 1: like Shane said it best, he goes, like, you know,
Speaker 1: we were at the top of our game in ECW,
Speaker 1: Like what Flair was to WWF, Shane was to ECW.
Speaker 1: So Shane should be getting these top paydays, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like, I don't know, And that's
Speaker 1: why that's my whole thing, Like, if you don't like
Speaker 1: what you're being offered, just don't take it. But then again,
Speaker 1: you you know, these guys need to work, so if
Speaker 1: another offer doesn't come in, you stay home that week
Speaker 1: and you don't make any money. It's such a double
Speaker 1: and sword and I'm so blessed that I don't have
Speaker 1: to deal with that bullshit. You know, I pick and
Speaker 1: choose and I'm able to do so, but a lot
Speaker 1: of the guys aren't, and it sucks. And I know
Speaker 1: a lot of these promoters are basically fans who get
Speaker 1: a couple you know, bucks in their pocket and think
Speaker 1: they could run this huge show and it turns out
Speaker 1: to be a flop. And then some of the boys
Speaker 1: get stiffed on pay and you know they don't have
Speaker 1: a deposits. It's it's a bullshit market anymore. I don't
Speaker 1: like the way things are being ran I got an
Speaker 1: offer the other day. The guy accepted my price, no problem,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. As soon as we mentioned a deposit.
Speaker 1: Because I don't know who this man is, I said,
Speaker 1: you have to get me a deposit. Ghosted us And
Speaker 1: I'm just like, why did you even approach me? And
Speaker 1: and you know your price is great, Yeah, we can
Speaker 1: do that. And then you know they want to pay
Speaker 1: you off the gate that they you're not going to
Speaker 1: do that. Well, I'll tell you why. Guys are starting
Speaker 1: to wave deposits. Well guess what I'm not and I
Speaker 1: not to no unless I know you. If I don't
Speaker 1: know you, I need a deposit because I'm not going
Speaker 1: to show up at your shitty show where you draw
Speaker 1: twenty seven people and have you cry me your river.
Speaker 1: How you can't pay me? You know, it's never happened
Speaker 1: to me before. But there's always a first, and I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna I'm not gonna let it happen. Oh I've heard,
Speaker 1: I've heard some stories. Oh yeah, me too. Keep your
Speaker 1: shitty payday. I'll stay home, I'll do Twitch, I'll do Twitch,
Speaker 1: have fun out of the comfort of my own home,
Speaker 1: and I'll make a couple bucks on Twitch. I'd rather
Speaker 1: do something like that than deal with the headache of
Speaker 1: having to deal with these people, because no one knows
Speaker 1: what they're doing these days. No, no, no, not at all.
Speaker 1: I've heard some of the old timers, the guys that
Speaker 1: you know are out there a lot are stopping with
Speaker 1: deposits and they're just because they know you know, they
Speaker 1: know you. Yeah no, they're just waving, waving it now
Speaker 1: and they're just going right to the show and Nope,
Speaker 1: that's it. And I was shocked to hear that because
Speaker 1: I'm so used to it, you know, from running all
Speaker 1: the conventions and stuff. You know, I didn't book you
Speaker 1: for our convention, but you were booked by JAB. But
Speaker 1: for everybody else that you know, everybody got a deposit,
Speaker 1: everybody across the board. Now that the other way, there's
Speaker 1: only a hand, not even a handful. I can count
Speaker 1: on two fingers who I will work for without a deposit.
Speaker 1: There's two people. You're one of them, Yes, Chad's the
Speaker 1: other one. Everybody else deposit or my ass stays home,
Speaker 1: and I'm okay with that. I don't care. I don't
Speaker 1: care anymore. I love meeting you guys, but under this,
Speaker 1: you know these circumstances, it's not worth it. My anxiety
Speaker 1: is like here anyway, when I'm on the road about
Speaker 1: I've heard stories from guys that have had to go.
Speaker 1: Either they locked the promoter in the room until he
Speaker 1: gets them their money, or they go all right, let
Speaker 1: me look around like, I'm gonna take that laptop there,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I stand, I'm gonna take a lot
Speaker 1: of shit that you got out there. All those WWE
Speaker 1: toys that you're selling, those are all coming home with me.
Speaker 1: But it's so works and doesn't get paid. What kind
Speaker 1: of job works where you don't get paid like that?
Speaker 1: It blows my mind. This industry is so crooked and
Speaker 1: backwards that we have to struggle to get paychecks when
Speaker 1: we're providing you a service. Oh just give me all right,
Speaker 1: attentional promoters, if you don't have money, stay to hell home,
Speaker 1: don't call us, don't and and don't yes us to
Speaker 1: death and then ghost us, like just leave us alone.
Speaker 1: I got to get that name from you later. It's
Speaker 1: just so I know, to be a word. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: I should ask him right now, but I will not
Speaker 1: do it. I know you're you're a classy lady, so
Speaker 1: you will. But I was just like, are you kidding me? Like, ugh,
Speaker 1: So I will be more than happy to just work
Speaker 1: with people that I trust and then stay home and
Speaker 1: do everything else from here and do my kids, because
Speaker 1: that's what I love. And you know what I love too,
Speaker 1: the fact that you didn't think we'd fill this hour
Speaker 1: literally and then this is what I love. See, it's
Speaker 1: just natural conversation. We were talking about Buff Bagwell, Buff,
Speaker 1: clean yourself up and get back to being the stuff. Yeah, Buff,
Speaker 1: Yeah you're the stuff. You're but now you're just rough,
Speaker 1: So let's go. You signed all the pictures that day.
Speaker 1: Buff is still the stuff. I hope, I we you know,
Speaker 1: we wish him the best. I hope he gets his
Speaker 1: life back together. But I hate to exactly, I hate
Speaker 1: to see these stories about the boys. It's just very,
Speaker 1: very troublesome to me. I don't like it, so get
Speaker 1: well soon. Buff. That's right, Buff. Let's move on to
Speaker 1: the rest of the week here kind of in the
Speaker 1: vein of wrestling. It can be wrestling, it can be television,
Speaker 1: could be music, it could be whatever. There's been a
Speaker 1: lot of talk about things starting over again, what's old
Speaker 1: is new? We're gonna talking about reboots and covers. Oh, now,
Speaker 1: you were part of a reboot that necessarily maybe not
Speaker 1: so exactly, So think in that kind of vein of
Speaker 1: reboots and covers. Covers usually in terms of music fifty
Speaker 1: to fifty. They could be good, they could be real shit. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna talk about reboots and covers. We're gonna
Speaker 1: do kind of to watch along because I have a
Speaker 1: YouTube clip that I want you to watch. Accuser of
Speaker 1: the Brethren. What the hell does that mean? What is that?
Speaker 1: It is this lady going ape shit in a Walmart,
Speaker 1: yelling at some guy, cursing at him in a whole like,
Speaker 1: you know, professing the Lord to this gentleman, but cursing
Speaker 1: up a storm. And I laughed my ass off when
Speaker 1: I watched it. So I just want to see what
Speaker 1: your reaction is gonna be, you know, and what you
Speaker 1: would do in this situation if you saw this. So
Speaker 1: it's kind of like a bonus, a little watch along
Speaker 1: thing the world Star it could have been, but it's
Speaker 1: more of like just watching some crazy lady lose her
Speaker 1: shit for that. So I like these videos, okay, and
Speaker 1: then how about this for your match? How about this? Ready?
Speaker 1: I dug in for this one. Shane Douglas with Francine
Speaker 1: Louis Spacoli from Hard TV love them. Great match, great match,
Speaker 1: great match. Yeah, Louis one behind a lot of chance. Wow,
Speaker 1: we're going towards the match, so we're gonna need your
Speaker 1: deciphering of the ECW Arena crowd. This is from This
Speaker 1: was recorded September fourteenth, ninety six. Broadcast September seventeenth, ninety six. Okay,
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