1 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to PM Mood, the No Talking Points, No Bullshit 2 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: podcast that takes you behind the curtain, off the red carpet, 3 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: and to the front lines of progress with change makers 4 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: and innovators that are doing the work to shift our 5 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: culture and expand our social impact. I am so excited 6 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: to welcome to PM Mood Danielle Rawlings, who is an 7 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: American comedian. He is an actor. He is a host 8 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: of The Dniell Rawlings Show. You recently made some comments 9 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: right that TMC got in an interview. People kind of 10 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 1: came for you, I guess on social media in some 11 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: ways because we all have a lot of time on 12 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: our hands about making jokes about COVID nineteen, about the coronavirus, 13 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: and I thought that your comments in response were really good. 14 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: What do you think the role is of comedy in 15 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: this current moment? First off, I'll tell you two things 16 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: people come for when you say they can't for me, 17 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: they come for two things. They come for the actual 18 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: content and what you talked about. Then he also come 19 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: for clickbait, you know what I mean. So in the 20 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: situation with the TMZ interview, you're a journalist, you know 21 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: they're always going to have a headline that's like gets 22 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: people excited. You know, it's like demanded, you say, well, 23 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: Donnie Rawlins is doing Kobe nineteen jokes before even people 24 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: even listen to what I said, Oh, I can't believe 25 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: that it's not the time for that, you know. And 26 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: the point I was making with that, TMZ and they 27 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: were pretty fair to me. I have to say that 28 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: the point I was making with that was that this 29 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: is the toughest time for a person of my profession, 30 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You know, the comedian has 31 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: been doing it for twenty five You just can't just 32 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: change jobs, right, you know you can't just like, you 33 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: know what, I think, I'm gonna be a stockbroker to marvel, 34 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: especially when you've been doing it for a while. You 35 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: used to make a sertad amount of money, So like 36 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: we got to continue with our job. Is And in 37 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: that statement to TMC, I say, this is the toughest time, 38 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: but this is a job that's needed. I'm not comparing 39 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: it to the first responders. I'm not comparing it to 40 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: nursing doctors anything like that. When's the job that's needed. 41 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: Because it is a dark time. People are frusted, and 42 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: people are depressed. You know, people don't know what's going 43 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: to be the next step. And with all of that 44 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: and with all the chaos, sometimes, you know, humor can 45 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: either brighten your day or at least remove you from 46 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: that way, even if it's for ten minutes, even for 47 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: forty five minutes, even it's for like an hour, and 48 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: me and my job, Like there's one thing when somebody 49 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: wants to lab there's another thing when someone needs to laugh. Yeah, 50 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: some of the best condiments I ever had. It's like, 51 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: it's some tough situations where people are coming to me 52 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: and they're like, man, I hadn't been out in two weeks. 53 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,679 Speaker 1: I just lost my aunt. You know, I just got 54 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: this news. It was bad news at the bad news, 55 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: and I'm telling you, I'm so bad. I came out 56 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: because you helped me move away from that, not forever, 57 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: for that moment. But some people don't know how to 58 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 1: and I don't say everything's a joke. Some people don't 59 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: know how to digest an observation. That's the word that 60 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: you use that I thought was so good. It was 61 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: like you're saying no, because comedy, right is about observations 62 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: of your life, right, observations that you're having about the 63 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: life that's unfolding around you. Comics that they have that 64 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: staff observational you know what I'm saying. It's not like 65 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: I'm not making a joke about that, but this is 66 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: something that happened to me today. This is real. This 67 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: is what I heard, and all I'm doing is sharing 68 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: it with you, you know. And people don't understand that. 69 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: They like to say they just like, oh, that was 70 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: a joke. Nor wasn't a joke. It was an observation. 71 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: I had had a funny undertone. That's what I do, 72 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: and that's think that's what some of the dope comedians do. 73 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: People that listened probably know my relationship with Dave Chappelle. 74 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: But right at the time when everything was hot about 75 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: the me too movement of Harvey Weinstein and all these things, 76 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: and Dave said, you know to the audience at the 77 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: Improblem when he said, you know, comedians, you got to 78 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: grab your sack. I don't know what who listens to this, 79 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: You know, you gotta grab your stuff. You can say, okay, 80 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: you gotta grab it balls he said. This is what 81 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: he's said, and how quoted. Sometimes you know comedians is 82 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: trying to grab your balls, because it's our job to 83 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: make fun of the things that are troubling the world, 84 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that's what comedians do. Comedians 85 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: take you for one place to the next place. And 86 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: we're not profits, we're not activists. We're just people that's 87 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: trying to expend what we think our branding humor is 88 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: to you so you can enjoy it. And at the 89 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: end of the day, this is the thing that always 90 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: concerns me, is that you can choose to listen to 91 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: whoever you want to listen to. Right, you can turn 92 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: it off, right, you can. You can go to the 93 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: next you can go to the next podcast, you can 94 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: go to the next YouTube show, you can go to 95 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: the next ig live. If what is being status until 96 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: your liking you know, I said, and this is not 97 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: a joke, but this is what I'm finding out. It's 98 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: like now people are so in touch with picking their 99 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 1: phone up. Now. Remember before the Corona, it was like voicemail, voicemail, voicemail, voicemail, 100 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: and the only people that left voicemail message with your 101 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: parents and parents always like hey baby, this mom. I'm like, 102 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: as soon as I heard that voice, let me hear 103 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: my whole life I know that, but now, like you 104 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: catch that phone. My phone rang the second rand. I'm like, hey, 105 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: what's up the RONA call? I didn't want this to 106 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: be the Rona call. Some people would think that's been sensitive. 107 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: That's just poking fun at a situation that exists and 108 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: me as being an entertainer, and I've had this. You know, 109 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: Donald Trump has put out a small business Association stimulus package, 110 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: but you got the Brownsville Brooklyn stimulus package. You gotta 111 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: be ready for it too. And that is whoever in 112 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: the family makes the most money, they can expect for 113 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: them phone calls to come in, right, yeah, and then 114 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: they coming in like this. People are really trying to 115 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: set the cons They started to come in like hello, 116 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: they like and You're like you all right, and then 117 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: they'd be like this, Oh no, man, oh no, I'm 118 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: just trying to I'm telling you the one thing. And 119 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: I said this on a couple of platforms before. And 120 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: this goes for the people that, like I call it, 121 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: people that really fuck with gold. Yeah, you know, the 122 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: ones that pray all the time and they go for 123 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: God when they're in need. You know what I mean. 124 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: I don't really care too many of these super pray 125 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: people talk about it too much unless it's time for 126 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: a prayer, you know. And I think if you believe 127 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: and if everybody's praying for us to get through this, 128 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: and everybody's gonna say a prayer for you whatever, and 129 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: you understand it's God's will, and you understand that God 130 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: is gonna correct this. He gonna see you also have 131 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: to take consideration. Yeah. Part of the reason wharness because 132 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: God decided that it was probably time for a check. 133 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: So if you want to, it's like a check. Okay. 134 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: So God realized that that people needed money and this 135 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: was the only way the government would do it. No, 136 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: not that that God realizes that some people are taking 137 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: things for granted. People are taking life for granted, some 138 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: people take your family for granted, some people taking relationships 139 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: for granted, some people taking money for granted. You know. 140 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: And then what happened When people take things for granted? 141 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: They keep on, keep on, keep on, and to something 142 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: where you have to put things in perspective. You know 143 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And I'm not saying that he wished 144 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: this on anybody, but it's gonna be a chin check 145 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: on all areas in all aspects of life. Some of 146 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: the preventive measures that people have taken to prevent themselves 147 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: from getting COVID, those same preventive measures will stop a 148 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: lot of things from coming your way, a lot of viruses, 149 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like, for a year, how 150 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: long did we laugh? I'm in the airport every other week, 151 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: I'd straight up laughing them Chinese dudes on the subway, 152 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: I did the same thing. I'm like, Oh, they're these people. 153 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: They're just overreacting, like the subway is fine, and behind 154 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: I was like this, Oh, I like people. They don't 155 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: want to give me that. They're like, no, I don't 156 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: want to get nothing from you. And as much as 157 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: people want to, everybody is talking about I can't wait 158 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: for it to get back to normal. Things like this 159 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: don't happen to go back to a normal. These things 160 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: like this happened to create a new normal. And the 161 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: new normal is gonna not let somebody be up on 162 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: you so close. What do you think, though, that the 163 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: new normal is going to be for your entire industry? 164 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: Because I would assume as a comedian, as an entertainer, 165 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: you do stand up, You get your energy, you get 166 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: your content from actually being around people. Yeah, what do 167 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: you see as some alterations, whether they be good right? Positive? Like, oh, 168 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: I could see some positive things, more online stuff, more 169 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: ways for people to break into the industry, but what 170 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: are some things that wouldn't necessarily be so good live performances? 171 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 1: And like this is like for me, this is I'm 172 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: telling you when I say perspectives and changes my way 173 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: of thinking. I've been people call me a row rep 174 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 1: all my money, not even selling the money I make 175 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: it through live performances. I don't make although I get 176 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: small parts in movies and TV stuff, it would come 177 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: close to supporting my family and you know, lifestyle of 178 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: a lead. But it's making me shift my thoughts on 179 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: how to make money. And it's so funny being an 180 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: older comic and I don't have this issue, but a 181 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: lot of older comedians like they despies. Like the word 182 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: internet comedian to them, it's like, ah, they corny. They 183 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: on the internet. They made jumps on the internet, Internet, 184 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: Nana Looyd. Young millennials are looking at the old dudes like, oh, yeah, exactly, 185 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: we had a head to start. Look at you now 186 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: got a head start. But it's putting things in perspective 187 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,239 Speaker 1: and as though, like right now I'm really an unemployed 188 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: comedian as we speak. If you look at it and 189 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: I got some more news today, then I don't know 190 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: how factual it is is that they don't expect like 191 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: major live concerts until like fall of twenty twenty one. 192 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: I saw that the Shade Room announced it. I don't 193 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: know where the actual and that's why there was one 194 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: writer from Pennsylvania. So it's somebody that found some clickbait 195 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: whereas to get people like worried or whatever. But with 196 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: that said, like right now, everybody's like what am I do? 197 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: What am I doing? They don't even anticipate this like 198 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: loosening up for a while, at least three months. So 199 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: me personally, like I'm going hard with my production, different 200 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: things that I try to involve myself with. I'm really 201 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: putting my foot into the podcast where I was lucky 202 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: enough to start three months ago, and since I started 203 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: with one hundred subscribers, I'm up to thirty thousand subscribers. 204 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: But I see how that could possibly give me some 205 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: monetary conversation like really soon right where I would put 206 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: the energy on a lot of performances because it was easy. 207 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 1: Now I gotta figure out what did you do? Now? 208 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: I can't quit what this is showing us, right, this 209 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: entire global pandemic is the ways in which one certain 210 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: industries need to innovate, right, Like, what does forced innovation 211 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 1: look like? I love to come up with ideas and 212 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: new concepts and new shows and all of these things. 213 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: But this is a sense of forced innovation. You know, 214 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: it's so funny you said that because I had a 215 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: conversation with it is going to be a business partner 216 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: mine in terms of entering a cosmetic world or whatever. 217 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 1: And then like when I was talking to I talked 218 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: for like twenty minutes, right, and at once that conversation 219 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 1: did I hear, huh what am I going to do? Oh? 220 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: This is crazy? Nobody wants to buy anything? Everything? It 221 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: was all positive, you know what I mean. It was 222 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: all like what's the next thing to do? And something 223 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: I said. Maybe I'm weird, But through this pandemic, I 224 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: got a burst of ideas. I feel more creative, I 225 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: feel more inspired, I feel more motivated. I know part 226 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 1: of that is because I'm forced to do it. But 227 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: when things I just happened, you know, some people come 228 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: out winning in a situation like yah. Some people say, Okay, 229 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: I figured it out. You know. Some people like I know, 230 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: I've been a good stand up comic for most part 231 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: of my career. I didn't have to force myself to 232 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: be a good entrepreneur. Anybody say the entrepreneur, you get 233 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: your first business card. I'm an entrepreneur. I'm the CEO 234 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: of nothing. You know what I'm saying. But cards, no, no, no. 235 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: I remember I got my first business card. I put 236 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: vice president, share owner on time, and I couldn't wait 237 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: to give on the day going your business card. But 238 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: now it's like, and I've always had an entrepreneurs spirit 239 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: but never was forced to exercisee. It like with the 240 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: sense of urgency that I have right now. And it's 241 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: not deferent. Just yo, you could do this, but you 242 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: haven't been doing it because you've been lucky enough to 243 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: have a full calendar. Like right, I've had a full calendar. 244 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: So you know, I didn't know I was taking advantage. 245 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 1: I was like, man, I'm good. I looked at my candle. 246 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I got three weekends. I'm working two weekends. 247 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: It is work, And never thought about anything and this 248 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: is going to teach me like what happens if something 249 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: like this happens again, what am I going to do? 250 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: What am I going to do? From a family and 251 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: it's making me creative And as they see on the street, 252 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 1: I'm on a nut right now on how I can 253 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 1: really show donniell Rawlins the business person and is it 254 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: do you feel like are you in a comedic circle 255 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: and set where you offer advice because you've been in 256 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: the game so long? Like, are there comics right now 257 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: that you know? You know, but they may not be 258 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: as seasoned as you are that are thinking about giving 259 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: up and you know, just throwing their hands off because 260 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: they don't know where their place is. Yeah, those type 261 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: of people aren't my friend. And those people that are 262 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: thinking about giving up, my advice would be to them 263 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 1: is to give up. You know what I'm saying, because 264 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: this business is a health business. You know what I'm saying, 265 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: this business is probably seventy five percent of your career 266 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: being broke. At twenty five percent where it makes sense 267 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: to you, this businesses feel with no this business is 268 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 1: you're not good enough, you're too old, you're not funny anymore, 269 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: you're not relevant. It's all that So if you can't 270 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: weather the storm, if any of that, it's not a 271 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: good business to be in. There's a young guy. I 272 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: don't really try to mentor comics. I just try to 273 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 1: heave by example, you know what I'm saying, because I 274 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: did that in the past. And it comes down to 275 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: you help somebody and you see them get success, and 276 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: you see them get popularity, to see them get money, whatever. 277 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: And a lot of times they don't even say thank you, 278 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. A lot of times they 279 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: just take for granted, which you were. They like when 280 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: you do that, you don't do it for people to 281 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: say that to you. But at the same time, it 282 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: feels good, you know what I mean. It feels good 283 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: when somebody says you appreciate you. In my life, it 284 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: feels good. Everybody want to get it, so I kind 285 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: of fall back on it. I give you a quick example, 286 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: especially when it comes to young nowadays. A couple of 287 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: years ago, you know, like in the business life, if 288 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: you have a roster for clients, you borrow stuff. So 289 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: my manager had this young comic on this roster. He 290 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: wanted me to let them open for me. I said, okay, 291 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: and the young dude was like, I think he's more 292 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: of an actor than a comedian. But he was like 293 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: he was all happy. He was like, Danielle og go 294 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: go to this new word for old legends, nigga, come on, 295 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: come on yo. When they get to the double this 296 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: dude called me an og goat legend. I was like, 297 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: am I about the die side? Right? He said? He said, whatever, 298 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: og legend. He said, if you could give a young 299 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: comic one piece of advice, what would it be? And 300 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: he's looking at me like, just this wont change my life? Right? 301 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: I said, don't ask for advice. There's no shortcuts. Everything 302 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: that you're gonna learn to stand up, it's gonna come 303 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: from doing stand up. Let the microphone be a teacher. Right. 304 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: He was like this og legend, man, thank you man, 305 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: I hear you. Right. A year later, same comedian, same 306 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: comedy club, comes up to me after a show. It says, 307 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe this was about. He said, hey, og legend, 308 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: if you have one piece of advice to give a 309 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: young comic coming up, what would it be? I said, 310 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: you don't listen to advice. Oh my god, you know 311 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm like, but that's someone that they 312 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: don't really want the advice. They just want to just 313 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: be a part of that com You just wanted to 314 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: be able to say, yeah, I asked them this, you 315 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: know what I mean, I'm gonna put this on my 316 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: resume and at the end of day, specific to my profession. 317 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: You get good by doing it. It's like a muscle memory, 318 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: you know, like the more you do it, the more 319 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: you can retain it. The more things are easy for you, 320 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: the more comfortable you are dealing with the hecklers, the 321 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: more comfort you are coming up with materials, the more 322 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: come to you are. When a joke is not working, 323 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: not panic him and stand in the pocket until you 324 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: get him back. It's really no way to teach that. 325 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: That's learning behavior and that's experience. And that's what a 326 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: lot of people try to duck is experience. I think 327 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: that they try and duct the learning just in general. Right, 328 00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 1: like if you can skate on somebody else hotails, if 329 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: you can skate on everybody else's coattails, right then you 330 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: don't have to get fine your own coat, but everybody. 331 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: And you know what, I'm not mad at a shortcut. 332 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: Everybody wants the shortcut, but you have to be able 333 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: to listen to wisdom to I'm just staying a shortcut, 334 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Okay, take your shortcuts, but 335 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: mentally be prepared for the long run. I've been doing 336 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: this for twenty sixty years, right, And people come up 337 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: to me all the time and they're like, man, they 338 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: always compare me to somebody else, and they compared it like, man, 339 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: so and so. Ain't that funny? You should be so 340 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: and so. Man, I don't know why that person got 341 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: that job. You said have that job, you know what 342 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I never rushed it. I'm never when 343 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: I was younger, and he's like you right, that became funny, right, 344 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: And I was like, I said to myself, that's not 345 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: helping you. Yep, you wasting any on that. That's not 346 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: helping you. And I say that. I always look at 347 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people career to tortoise in the hair. 348 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: The hair just run circle. Wow, that tortoise you just 349 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: going boom, one step at a time, one step at 350 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: the time. He's enjoying it. He's not mocking anybody, and 351 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: he's just enjoying it. And eventually he's going to cross 352 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: the finish line. You never know when that's gonna happen. 353 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: But you got to be in the game. I love 354 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: that so much, that you have to be in the 355 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 1: game because otherwise you can't win. And I think that, 356 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: you know, people also take too much time paying attention 357 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: to too many people's material successes and think that looks 358 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: like when in fact, right, yeah, we're all inside right now. Sure, 359 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: you could be inside your mansion and that's where you're quarantining, 360 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: or you could be quarantine in your apartment, or you 361 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: may not even be blessed enough to have the space 362 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: to be quarantining in. But I think what this shows 363 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: you is that anything could be taken away at one 364 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: at any time. Say, like you know what, being quarantine 365 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: in a mansion and a small spot or whatever, it 366 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: don't make no difference. If you ain't got the love 367 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: around you, that twenty thousand square foot could just be 368 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: as empty as anything. You know. And one of the 369 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: things that I you know, and people always say the 370 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: question asks like me, because I'm a microphone fee, I'm 371 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: doing thousands of thousands of show there. It's like just 372 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: oh my god, it's got to be tough. You never 373 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: to do live performances I know it's gonna be driving 374 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 1: me crazy, and it would normally drive me crazy, but 375 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: I haven't really thought about it as much because I 376 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,959 Speaker 1: get more time with my son. Yeah, you know, like 377 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 1: it's like because you're not on the road, right, Yeah, 378 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: I'm giving up that time, And I'm like this, what's 379 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: taking up that time? What's taking up me doing media 380 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: in the city to promote a show in the morning, him, 381 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: what's taking up my time with my road? Does going 382 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: to dinner him? You know what I'm saying. So like 383 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: it hasn't really affected me my standing lead like that. 384 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 1: I knew it's probably gonna at some point like damn, 385 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: I need to get on stage, but right now the 386 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 1: trade off is well worth it for me. Are you 387 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: enjoying podcasting You said that you were. What's different about 388 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: other than like, you know, you can do it in 389 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: your pajamas, which I assume you can do stand up 390 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: in two depending on what kind of comic. What I 391 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: look about the most, Yeah, is that I'm one thousand 392 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: percent in control of the show. I don't have to 393 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: answer to anybody. It's just another platform for me to 394 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: get out all the things I like to do. And 395 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: when I first started doing this podcast. I said, you know, 396 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: I was nervous about it because I didn't know how 397 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: comfortable I would be being able to talk to myself 398 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: because I hate to ask people, could you be on 399 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: my show? So I said, maybe my podcast, but we 400 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: of the design that it's a rant. It's just me. 401 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: I was nervous. I was super nervous. And I got 402 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: inspired one night because I was sitting with my son. 403 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: We would just eat meat balls and spaghettis or something right, 404 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: and I just said, Yo, I want to do a podcast. 405 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,719 Speaker 1: I said, but I'm nervous. And my son and he 406 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: was three and a half at the time, my son said, Daddy, 407 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: I'm nervous too. I'm like, why are you nervous? He said, 408 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: I'm nervous because you're nervous. And then I said and 409 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: then I said, what do we do when we're nervous? 410 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: He looked at me. He said, Daddy, we don't quit. 411 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: And that it feels like something hit me, like if 412 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: this little dude, you know what I mean, like if 413 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 1: he could say something like that, you're absolutely right, we 414 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 1: don't quit. The thing that I like about the podcast 415 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: now and is from the beginning to where I'm at 416 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: right now. And I never lied to my audiers. I 417 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: always kept realize, like, this is gonna be a learning 418 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: for me. It's all new to me. It's gonna be 419 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: some good shows, it's gonna be some bad shows. It's 420 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:14,959 Speaker 1: gonna be some microphone malfunctions, camera sound, everything I say, 421 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 1: but one thing you will get from me. It's like 422 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: every week this show will evolve some kind of way, 423 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: whether it's lighting, whether it's a new mica or something. 424 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: It's gonna go grow. It's never gonna go backwards. And 425 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: since I started from you know, like zero to thirty 426 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: thousand subscribing and I look at my analyticals and it's 427 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 1: not a bragging point or anything, but it's all going up, 428 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: you know. And now with the time that I have 429 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: because of this pandemic or everything, I'm like, I'm putting 430 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: my foot into it and people are starting to take 431 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: notice to it. Like where people are really really critical 432 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: of a lot of things at the beginning, they starting 433 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: to say, well, he's found his zo, you know what 434 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: I mean, It's much better. But at the end of 435 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: the day, it's the Domino Roland show, right what you want, 436 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: And that's what I'm doing like I did Joe Rogans 437 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: podcast some time ago. And it was almost as if 438 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: I was predicting this happening. You know, I used. I 439 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: was telling him, I'm sick of being on the road. 440 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 1: I want to spend more time my family. I want 441 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: to be home or whatever. I got a Hollywood don't really, 442 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: I don't do a lot of acting. Here we go. 443 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: I gotta play the Hollywood game again. And he was 444 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: all a matter of fact. He was like, just starting podcast, 445 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: and I was like, nigga, man, don't buy they no, 446 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 1: no body make a no buddy off got their podcast. 447 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: Boy was I wrong. No white boys knew this was coming. 448 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: No white boys knew this was coming. And it's so 449 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: funny the podcast. Dudes, they're not stressing like they're kicking 450 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: up awf of just talking on his mic and hitting play. Yeah, 451 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You know what it is too, 452 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: about what it is, and you said to your audience 453 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 1: and why it continues to grow, it's about the authenticity 454 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: of it, right. You know, we got up there and 455 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: you were perpetrating. You were on some old let me 456 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: you know, make this something that it's not, or on 457 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: some friendship people see that they see it clearer because 458 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: it's you. And let me tell you something. The first 459 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: attempt I doing the podcast, you said some fraud ship. 460 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. I was trying to do 461 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: everybody who ever did a podcast in one podcast. I 462 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: was like everything. I was like this, I could be 463 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: Joe rogan ish, I could be Chris d'lia ish to 464 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: a little Adam Corolla. I was gonna be every motherfucker 465 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: in one podcast, right, I try to do it. I 466 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: didn't have a guest, it would just be I quit 467 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: that first podcast in eight minutes. I did like this, 468 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm like this. Yeah, because I started looping. 469 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 1: I was like I did like that. I said, man, 470 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: I ain't doing this shit, right. I walk off my 471 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: producers like what are you doing? I said, I quit. 472 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: He's like, you can't just quit. I was like, whose 473 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 1: podcast is? He said, it's yours. I say, I can't quit. 474 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,239 Speaker 1: I said, I quit. And before I quit, I fired you. 475 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: I try to tell me I can't quit. He was 476 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: like down here, I wasn't getting paid. I was like, 477 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: were you still fighting? He's still fired? Still don't show out? Yeah? 478 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: And I started it and like they tell you you know, 479 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: like you said, it's being authentic and it's your voice. 480 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: I remember one particular podcast I did with Joe Rogan. 481 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: I thought this was the dopest podcast ever. Right, it 482 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: was me and I crashed the wristest podcast with him 483 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: and uh. At the end of the podcast, I was like, man, 484 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: that ship was fire, Joe. This was before Corona. We 485 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: hugged each other. I think we even we breathed each 486 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: other's face. He was bringing each other. Yeah, we was 487 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: on the edge. We shook hands, we do we did this. 488 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: You know, nowadays they'd be like, what does this dude, 489 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: he's an assassin. And then and because because I use 490 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: it for the most part on the social media platforms, 491 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: people are pretty nice to me, you know, like they 492 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: don't drag me a lot. Every once in a while, 493 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: I get into something. So I was leaving and I 494 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: embraced Joe and he was so excited about it. And 495 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: then um, he said, Danielle, Oh I came back. He 496 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: gave me another hug. Double corona. Right, I came back. 497 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 1: He double ronas he double rolled my hard a laws dude, Corona. 498 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 1: So he doubled up and this time he said, oh yeah, 499 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: Danielle whatever you do, don't read the comments. I was like, this, 500 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: that's for you. I said, I got too much love. 501 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: Do you know what I did? I read every I 502 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: don't know if I knew exactly number. It was like 503 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: I think I read two thousand, seven hundred and ninety two, right, 504 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: I know, but I went. I went through every one. 505 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: The start off sweet. That's how he caught me. I 506 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: was like, oh, they love me, and I was like, 507 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: they started saying stuff like this is so cringe. They 508 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: was like unlistenable, unbearable, things like this. And then these assholes, 509 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: these trolls so gangster. They didn't want everybody else livet 510 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: to it. They would saying I wanted to kill myself 511 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: at seventeen thirty eight. They put the timeline. You know 512 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: they put the timeline. Oh yeah, they was going. But 513 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: they made me mad because I'm like, I will listen 514 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: to a certain skin, you know what I'm saying, like 515 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: some shit that I'm just like whatever, But sometimes you know, 516 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: with that troll and somebody could be making a good point, 517 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: but my thing is like we gotta be asking about it, 518 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: have to be an asshole, but yeah, okay, yeah, you know, 519 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: something like you shut the fuck up could be a 520 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: you know, left the conversation sell you know what I mean, 521 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: like listening that, but you know they get nasty and 522 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: I was like, I was getting nasty back, and I 523 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,479 Speaker 1: was like, man, don't do that. Just keep doing what 524 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: you're doing. And I'm starting to see, let's you always 525 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: want to get that one person or two. Yeah, And 526 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: you know, my favorite inspirational speaker, Brene Brown says, like 527 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 1: what did she say? If you're not in the arena, 528 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: then essentially shut the fuck up. Like, if you're not, 529 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: if you're not willing to suit up and to like 530 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: do the hard work and actually be out there, if 531 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: it's trying to make people laugh, if it's trying to 532 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,959 Speaker 1: inform people, if it's trying to entertain folks, Like, if 533 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: you're not doing the work, then you don't get to 534 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: critique the work, right, you don't. You don't make life 535 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: as a critic. There's only a handful of motherfuckers that 536 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: do that. So if you are doing it work, then 537 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: that means you should learn how to respect it. Ronnie, 538 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: you're respected if you're doing it. You know, like comedy, 539 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 1: you know, everybody wants to be a heckler from the table. 540 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: That's just how I started. All Right, you're funny from 541 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 1: your seat unannounced note and that's not your profession. All right, 542 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: you won You're an asshole. Now come up here and 543 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: do what I do. Shut me up. Yeah you really 544 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: want to shut me up? You know. I think that 545 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,239 Speaker 1: that would that would probably be the best thing to 546 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: ever do to a heckler. It's be like, oh, okay, okay, 547 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: you want you want to stage you one of the time, 548 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: let me sit down, come to a spot with me. 549 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 1: You get a better joke from here. Yeah, but you can, 550 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: but you better be careful because everyone's is that one motherfucker. 551 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: I was ready for that for me. They told me 552 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: they try to give me to quick the heckler. They said, yeah, 553 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: you so funny going on stage first time. I want 554 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: to back cole a standing evasion. It was not looking 555 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: back after that. It was like fire. I hit that. 556 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: I was like, I bet y'all won't dare me no more. 557 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: I never looked back. Yeah, I'm one of a few. 558 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: Some people chose some people just like they just needed 559 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: that opportunity. That pushed and for me in the case 560 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: of my career, that's what it was. That's amazing. So 561 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: then now the last question that I always ask people 562 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: on PM mood, and I think that for you the 563 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: question is a little bit different. But the question is 564 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: how do you get in the PM mood to change 565 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: the world? But I would say for you, it's like, 566 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: how do you get yourself in the mood? Given the haters, 567 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 1: the hecklers, this trying time of innovating out of disaster, 568 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: how are you getting in the mood to do the 569 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: work to make people laugh, to bring some joy from 570 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: the well? I'm inspired by something different. Now that's my son, 571 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, I get in the 572 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: mood because I don't just look at what I need 573 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: in life. I look at his future. I look at 574 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: what's gonna make him a better person, what's gonna support 575 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: him and his growth? You know what I'm saying, Like, 576 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 1: you refrain that question for me as a comedian, But 577 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: what am I person going to do to change the world. Yeah, 578 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 1: the way I'm going to do it is start with him. 579 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, you can't save the world, 580 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: you go crazy. You try to save everybody, one person, 581 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: one person, one person at a time. And my idea 582 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: of changing the world is changing the way of thinking, 583 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: changing the way of living, and I got to exercise 584 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: that through my son. You know what I'm saying, I 585 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: want to make everybody else happy. Hain't got too Yeah, 586 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: I want to please everybody. No, I don't have to. 587 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: I don't owe anybody a motherfucking thing but him. And 588 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: that's what I live for, and that's how I'm going 589 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: to change the world by the values and everything I'm 590 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: still into my son. That's my strategy. Well, we already 591 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 1: know that he's not a quitter and he knows never to, 592 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 1: so he's already on his path and you've already set 593 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: the stage for that. So that's amazing. Yes, thank you 594 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 1: so much for joining PM mood. This has been such 595 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: a pleasure. That's the one thing. Yes, I know, if 596 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 1: you're talking about my podcast, The Donnia Rowling Show, I'm 597 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: putting disclaimer out there right now. I say what I 598 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: want in the tone, in the voice, and in the 599 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: language that I use. Or if you were sensitive to 600 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: language or real stuff, you might not want to check 601 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: out The Donnie Rawling Show. It's real, it's raw, it's uncut, 602 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: and it's all met. I love it. And if they 603 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: listen to me. Then that's the only thing they're ever 604 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: looking forward to. I'm rob. Thank you so much, you're amasic. 605 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: This is incredible, Thank you folks. 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