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Speaker 1: Wherever you may be and however you may be watching

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Speaker 1: or listening, Thanks for making us part of your day. Ryan,

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Speaker 1: our producer, went to the Cubs game last night, watched

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Speaker 1: the Mets meltdown getting the field for Chicago and Wrigley Field.

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Speaker 1: What a great city it is. Jmax. The Athletic is

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Speaker 1: that subscribvishing business. You know they got some really good

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Speaker 1: writers there, yeah, oh yeah. And we've always known there's

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Speaker 1: a gap between the best quarterbacks and the second third

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Speaker 1: tier quarterbacks or the best coaches. That's obvious, right, But

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Speaker 1: the Athletic pulled twenty nine coaches, executives, general managers, and

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Speaker 1: they pulled them on the best front offices upstairs, the

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Speaker 1: guys in the nice boxes during the game, and the

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Speaker 1: camera occasionally shows. And the top ten might as well

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Speaker 1: be the hurd hierarchy. Eagles, Ravens, Rams, Bills, Chiefs, Buccaneers, Packers, Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: Line Niners. I mean, it's the hurd hierarchy, basically. And

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Speaker 1: I don't buy the Packers are lucky to hit on

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Speaker 1: three straight quarterbacks or the Eagles coincidentally have another stacked roster.

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Speaker 1: The gap between front offices is as large or larger

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Speaker 1: than owners, quarterbacks and coaches. I mean, look what Jim

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Speaker 1: me best team in the league. What's most interesting to

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Speaker 1: me in this poll is those top ten teams. They've

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Speaker 1: all got, you know, quarterbacks, top quarterbacks. Isn't it fascinating

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Speaker 1: how each team landed the quarterback the most important position.

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Speaker 1: Each took an entirely different route. Let's start with the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: It's fascinating. So the Eagles, they go to the second round,

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Speaker 1: a smaller quarterback, Jalen Hurts, an athletic quarterback at the time,

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Speaker 1: they had Carson Wentz moved off him, and they decide

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Speaker 1: go contrariyanto the market they had big, tall, range E

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. We're gonna go smaller, strong athlete who's better

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Speaker 1: moving initially than throwing. Second in this athletic poll is

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Speaker 1: the Ravens. They passed on Lamar Jackson wants themselves in

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Speaker 1: this hyper athletic kid from Louisville. At the time, remember

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Speaker 1: his mom was representing him as very different, and we're

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Speaker 1: not gonna play him initially. We're gonna wait a while,

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Speaker 1: quarterback probably that's ever played the Rams. Rams didn't do

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Speaker 1: They're like, we're going to trade him to Detroit and

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Speaker 1: The Bills Bills different. They went to a small college,

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Speaker 1: there's multiple routes to the mountaintop for the most important

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Speaker 1: position in the National Football League and in life. It

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Speaker 1: reminds me when Live the Live Golf Tour disrupted the

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Speaker 1: don't know, he's feisty. If he doesn't have an elite

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Speaker 1: next level trade, you don't have. The guy said, when

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Speaker 1: Margot Robbie. So that's the only rule in the NFL

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Speaker 1: seventh round trade free agency draft from a bad program, rest,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be a close game. Green

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Speaker 4: Dallas loves me, you know. I think they're gonna give

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Speaker 4: think it's gonna be like I said, it's gonna be

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Speaker 4: a great atmosphere. I think, you know, this is some

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Speaker 4: When it's Sunday night against you know, a rivalry.

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Speaker 1: Opponent, there should be no hard feelings. In that Athletic

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Speaker 1: survey of out front offices, Dallas got no vote of

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: Eleven people said they're a top five organization. Saquon Barkley

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Speaker 1: Some people are just too talented to mire in dysfunction.

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Speaker 1: And that's what Dallas is. There's a lot of you

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Speaker 1: hear all this altruism. I am going to go down

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Speaker 1: with a ship, be loyal. Oh that's nonsense. You end

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Speaker 1: up like Mike Trout and Barry Sanders. You end up

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Speaker 1: surrounding yourself with secondary executives, managers, coaches, people hitting in

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Speaker 1: I've said with Joe Burrow, Joe, you got to talk

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Speaker 1: to your agent and consider demanding a trade. Cincinnati, Carson

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Speaker 1: Palmer said enough is enough. So I mean Kevin Garnett's

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Speaker 1: biggest regret. Remember when he got to the South, he said,

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Speaker 1: of those Saquon Barkley moves, Matt Stafford moves, and Shoe

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Speaker 1: Hao Tani moves. He is leaving dysfunction and an average

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Speaker 1: I forgot ride the wave in life. Don't fight the current.

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Speaker 1: The packers, they win, they coach, they draft, they develop.

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Speaker 1: You go to Green Bay. You ride that momentum, that culture,

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Speaker 1: for the great players. It feels like you're fighting a current.

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Speaker 1: All right, j Mac bringing the energy today tonight there's

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Speaker 1: a fascinating and we won't spend a ton of time

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Speaker 1: No, No, Seattle goes to Arizona. You like Seattle? I do.

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Speaker 1: I think it is a trap bet. It's the biggest

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Speaker 1: played and should have beaten San Francisco, but the fans fancy, Uh,

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Speaker 1: Seahawks blew them out. Niners beat Arizona. If you watch

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Speaker 1: the Niners game, Arizona had them beat out, gained them

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Speaker 1: more yards yards per play. Arizona is a tough division rival.

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Speaker 1: They've always given this to division problems. Now they're at home,

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Speaker 1: short week Seahawks. Maybe take their foot off the gas

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Speaker 1: after a blowout like college level win.

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Speaker 5: That's very none of that I can refute. I like it.

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Speaker 6: My issue is, you know, James Connor is like the

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Speaker 6: for the season. That's a big loss. In addition, their

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Speaker 6: And Sam Darnold numbers against the play action have been amazing.

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Speaker 6: I think Seattle kind of wins this one handling. I'm

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Speaker 6: higher than mark out on Seattle. I think they're a

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Speaker 1: Know, I like it, threat, you know, I like Seattle.

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Speaker 1: I think when you played division rivals in loud stadiums

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Speaker 1: it feels so trappy. I have some Kyler.

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Speaker 6: Numbers we'll talk about later against Seattle last year, hint,

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Speaker 1: Here we go. It's hour two Greg Cosell. In a

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Speaker 1: Greg Cosel. NFL Films Live, It's the herd. Wherever you

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Speaker 1: may be, however you may be listening. Thanks for making

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Speaker 1: us part of your day. Jmac. Do you like I

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Speaker 6: You know, any like anything right outside of sports, you

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Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers stinks, but he's not passing the eye test, Colin.

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Speaker 1: Let's be real.

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Speaker 6: You know, he looked okay against that Jets team, but

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Speaker 1: I what's interesting about this game is Aaron. There were

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Speaker 11: We've been friends forever, and we keep in touch with you.

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Speaker 11: never progressed, you know, farther than catchup conversations. I'll just

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Speaker 1: All right, Just leave it at that. I don't know

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Speaker 1: last week, when I started to compliment Caleb Williams, I

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Speaker 10: Well, Colin the way I answer that is the litmus

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Speaker 1: So there was a discussion last week. It was a

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Speaker 1: And I said, in my opinion, I said, as the

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Speaker 10: Yeah, last week was a tough way to really evaluate

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Speaker 10: Well, it's funny you say that because I've had coaches

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Speaker 1: Well. I love Justin Herbert out of college. I loved

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Speaker 10: Well, I guess maybe they've locked Greg Roman in a

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Speaker 10: And I think Herbert's got that nice balance right now,

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Speaker 1: Rokwan Smith. They've got some good players. They spend their

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Speaker 1: money on defense. But when you're was it a bad

432
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Speaker 1: matchup with a dominating O line of Detroit? Was it

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Speaker 1: a bad matchup? Or when you look at the film

434
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Speaker 1: on Baltimore. Do they just have some realities with personnel.

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Speaker 10: Well, in this given game, Matta Bouquet was out and

436
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Speaker 10: I believe he'll be out again. Kyle van Noy, who's

437
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Speaker 10: a really good player, he was out. Surprisingly, Jones, the

438
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Speaker 10: d tackle, who's a really good player, got moved off

439
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Speaker 10: the ball a lot. And keep in mind the two

440
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Speaker 10: guards for Detroit. One's a second year player Mahogany. The

441
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Speaker 10: other is Tate Radledge, a rookie from Georgia. So they

442
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Speaker 10: moved those guys throughout the game. But it's funny. I'm

443
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Speaker 10: watching the first on tape. I'm talking about to watch

444
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Speaker 10: first quarter and a half, and I'm thinking, where's this

445
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Speaker 10: big run game? Because they actually stopped him for a

446
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Speaker 10: quarter and a half and then everything changed. But they

447
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Speaker 10: are giving up the most points in the NFL right now,

448
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Speaker 10: and they are really struggling with the run game. And

449
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Speaker 10: sometimes you're good players Colin have bad games. Rokwan Smith

450
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Speaker 10: did not have a good game, but you're not expecting

451
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Speaker 10: that to be the case every game. He's a really

452
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Speaker 10: good player. He just did not have a very good game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we've been joking. Jay McK and I have

454
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Speaker 1: been joking this league. Darnald Baker, Gino mac Jones, you

455
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Speaker 1: give up on him, people give up on them. Then

456
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Speaker 1: you look up with a new staff offensive coach and

457
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Speaker 1: you're like, wow, Sure, I have been arguing for a

458
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Speaker 1: year and a half. I like the Colts roster. I

459
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Speaker 1: think Warren now Taylor, Pittman, Pierson. I like their and

460
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Speaker 1: I think their offensive line is good. I thought it

461
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Speaker 1: really I kept saying with Anthony Richardson, just get somebody

462
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Speaker 1: that can complete the layups. They've got really good players,

463
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Speaker 1: So I'm My theory is this is not a mirage.

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Speaker 1: Coaching obviously matters, but like the Colts are, this is

465
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Speaker 1: a pretty good roster. It's not the Eagles, but it's

466
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Speaker 1: pretty good. Or is it just amazing coaching by Shane Stallin.

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Speaker 10: Well, there's a combination. But think of it this way.

468
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Speaker 10: How many quarterbacks are Josh Allen, Patrick, Mahomes, Lamar Jackson.

469
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Speaker 10: There's very few of those guys. There's not fifty of

470
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Speaker 10: those guys out there. So what are most quarterbacks? Colin?

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Speaker 10: Most quarterbacks are ball distributors and executors of an offense.

472
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Speaker 10: That's what you're asking your quarterback to do. That's when

473
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Speaker 10: you're coaching him to do and right now, with the

474
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Speaker 10: talent they have. They have a very good old line,

475
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Speaker 10: they have four receivers, They've got multiple tight ends, including

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Speaker 10: Tyler Warren who's a very good player. So what is

477
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Speaker 10: Jones doing exceptionally well? He's distributing the football, He's making

478
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Speaker 10: the right decision, he's making good location throws, he moves

479
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Speaker 10: when necessary, He's executing the offense. That's what you want

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Speaker 10: your quarterback to do. Now, you and I both know

481
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Speaker 10: we have no idea what's going to happen Sunday, next week,

482
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Speaker 10: three months from now. But all we have is what

483
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Speaker 10: we have right now, and at this moment in time,

484
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Speaker 10: he is very efficiently executing a well schemed, well designed

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Speaker 10: offense with a lot of talent.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I saw a story this week. Is CJ.

487
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Speaker 1: Stroud playing himself out of an extension? So I usually

488
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Speaker 1: look at quarterbacks and I say, do they have a

489
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Speaker 1: defined elite traite? I think he throws an elite accurate

490
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Speaker 1: ball when he's given reasonable time. But they can't run.

491
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Speaker 1: Texans second year in a row is bad. It's a

492
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Speaker 1: defensive defensive head coach. I worry about the O line regression.

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Speaker 1: I still think he's a big, accurate distributor of the ball.

494
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Speaker 1: I don't think there's much around him offensively. But what

495
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Speaker 1: does the film say with this great rookie who doesn't

496
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Speaker 1: look the same in the last year and a half.

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Speaker 10: No, well, it's funny you say that because it's rookie

498
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Speaker 10: season and it started early. I saw, maybe in the

499
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Speaker 10: second game of the season, just the precise timing and

500
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Speaker 10: anticipation that he threw with, and he really hasn't looked

501
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Speaker 10: that way. Last year he didn't, and this year up

502
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Speaker 10: to this time, he has not. I think he's not

503
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Speaker 10: a truly comfortable player. The old line is certainly an issue.

504
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Speaker 10: But again it becomes a difficult balancing at Colin because

505
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Speaker 10: you can't you walk into the locker room and say, guys,

506
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Speaker 10: you know, I'm not playing well because my own line

507
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Speaker 10: is not very good. You can't say that. So you

508
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Speaker 10: got to figure out how to function if within a

509
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Speaker 10: squeezed and muddy pocket. And I think that's something he's

510
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Speaker 10: still figuring out. Now. Are there some plays where the

511
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Speaker 10: old line just gives him no time and he doesn't

512
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Speaker 10: have a chance. Yes, but at some point you've got

513
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Speaker 10: to be able to function, otherwise you're not going to

514
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Speaker 10: have a passing game. And right now their passing game

515
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Speaker 10: is very inconsistent, very up and down, and he just

516
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Speaker 10: doesn't look like the same confidence thrower that's seeing throws

517
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Speaker 10: window throws as viable throws the way he did his

518
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Speaker 10: rookie season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes it's upstairs. You lose confidence, you know, you

520
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: lose trust. You said that last year with Mahomes, you

521
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Speaker 1: could tell he didn't trust his offensive line, and then

522
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl you shouldn't have trusted it. Yeah, but at.

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Speaker 10: Some point you got to play. I mean, you still

524
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Speaker 10: got to play, that's the thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So I went back and watched the Packers Browns

526
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Speaker 1: game a second time, and I guess my takeaway is

527
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Speaker 1: Cleveland's defense is really good and I do really good,

528
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Speaker 1: really good, And I think the Packers are young. Young

529
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Speaker 1: teams kind of get into their fields. They were playing

530
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Speaker 1: real well. Everybody said they're the best team in the league.

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Speaker 1: They came out without a lot of juice early. They

532
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Speaker 1: probably should have won ten to nights. Thing one bad

533
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Speaker 1: pick by Jordan Love. I think it's a one off,

534
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Speaker 1: and I think Cleveland's got really good defensive personnel. What

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Speaker 1: did Cleveland do that Jordan Love couldn't figure out, because

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Speaker 1: it's not like the Packers don't have excellent young offensive

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Speaker 1: personnel either.

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Speaker 10: No, but I think everything with the Browns starts with

539
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Speaker 10: their D line. They play. They have a five man

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Speaker 10: rotation at d end. Of course, Garrett plays more snaps

541
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Speaker 10: than anybody else, but they have a five man rotation.

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Speaker 10: They're really good inside. This was the best game this

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Speaker 10: past week that Mason Graham has played in his first

544
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Speaker 10: three games in his NFL career. Malik Collins is one

545
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Speaker 10: of those guys that is seemingly on a different team

546
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Speaker 10: every year, but is a really good player. So They've

547
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Speaker 10: got a lot of juice and a lot of talent

548
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Speaker 10: up front, and they play a lot of man coverage,

549
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Speaker 10: and they're very good on the back end. I mean,

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Speaker 10: Denzel Ward is one of the best, probably overlooked corners

551
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Speaker 10: in the league. And I had a former coordinator in

552
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Speaker 10: the league tell me that the two toughest coordinators that

553
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Speaker 10: he's ever played against are Vic Fangio and Jim Schwartz.

554
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Speaker 10: So Jim Schwartz does just enough in terms of rotation

555
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Speaker 10: and showing you different pictures on the back end at

556
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Speaker 10: key moments that he confuses quarterbacks. And you know in

557
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Speaker 10: this league, when I say confused, all it takes is

558
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Speaker 10: is half a beat, and that's long enough for it

559
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Speaker 10: to be a problem for a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, now a topic I'm gonna like. It took

561
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Speaker 1: a while for me to win this debate, but I'm

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Speaker 1: a Sam Darnold fan. I always felt that he was too.

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Speaker 1: He always were yeah, tough, athletic, well liked, incredibly coachable,

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Speaker 1: But I did think he was a reckless player and

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Speaker 1: he had to play within structure. If you gave him

566
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Speaker 1: structure Town twenty six to twenty eight times with a

567
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Speaker 1: decent run game, if you ask him to throw on

568
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Speaker 1: third and twelve, it can be trouble. Third and four.

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Speaker 1: He can be very very good because he's a playmaker

570
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Speaker 1: and he's got a nice arm. So what are you

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Speaker 1: seeing that's clicking in Seattle with Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 10: Well, you're starting to see the same thing we saw

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Speaker 10: last year in Minnesota. You're starting to see the Clint

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Speaker 10: Kubiak offense. And he basically comes from the same coaching

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Speaker 10: tree to some extent as Kevin O'Connell. So now you're

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Speaker 10: seeing more under center, more play action, play action boot

577
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Speaker 10: things that make Donald feel very comfortable, that help define

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Speaker 10: the reads, make them cleaner, so he knows where to

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Speaker 10: go with the ball, so he's not dropping back and

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Speaker 10: you're asking him to read everything in front of him,

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Speaker 10: which quite frankly, is not the strength of his game

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Speaker 10: when he can see it cleanly and it's defined. As

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Speaker 10: you said, he is very very talented. And if we

584
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Speaker 10: can go to our big play, because this play last

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Speaker 10: week against the Saints in the red zone is very

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Speaker 10: very representative of a Clint Kubiak offense and how Donald

587
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Speaker 10: is very efficient within it. And this is play action

588
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Speaker 10: boot left and this was such a beautifully designed in

589
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Speaker 10: play and Donald can make these throws. He can make

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Speaker 10: any throw. So right now you're going to see Donald

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Speaker 10: and again notice that he's under center, so you're going

592
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Speaker 10: to see Walker's in the backfield, and they're going to

593
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Speaker 10: have three wide receivers on the field, and what they're

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Speaker 10: going to do here and more and more teams do this,

595
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Speaker 10: but it's really important to Seattle's offense is motion by

596
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Speaker 10: Horton the rookie wide receiver across the formation. So now

597
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 10: what you're going to see is inside run action and

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Speaker 10: I want you to focus on the safety Justin Reid,

599
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 10: a really good player. By the way, there's Walker in

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Speaker 10: the backfield. There's the safety Justin Reid, because this is

601
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Speaker 10: a critical piece to this play because what's going to

602
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Speaker 10: happen is when you do run action and you throw

603
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Speaker 10: at Colin, very often you're putting one defender in conflict.

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Speaker 10: That's all it takes. Very often one defender. Watch Red's

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Speaker 10: initial reaction. It's going to be inside and he's going

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Speaker 10: to step up. That's the critical defender on this play.

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Speaker 10: You're putting him in conflict. That's a big flow of

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Speaker 10: Kyle Shanahan as well. So now what you're going to

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Speaker 10: see after they do that is we're going to go

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Speaker 10: back to the snap and we're going to look at

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Speaker 10: the route concept. You're going to see Cup run the

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Speaker 10: corner route, the tight end's going to work into the flat,

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Speaker 10: and JSN, who's having a phenomenal season by the way,

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Speaker 10: he's going to run the crosser that ties in with

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Speaker 10: the boot action by Sam Darnold. So now as we

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Speaker 10: play this, you'll see all the routes work and you

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Speaker 10: can see how they match up to it. The corner

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Speaker 10: is going to match cup. That defender is going to

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Speaker 10: match Barner into the flat and remember read he's the

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Speaker 10: one who has to play JSN on the crosser. But

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Speaker 10: look how he gets sucked up by the run action

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Speaker 10: and then he goes, oh, you know what, and he

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Speaker 10: realizes that he's got to hunt up JSN and he

624
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Speaker 10: can't do it. So you can really see it clearly

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Speaker 10: from this angle. This is beautiful play design down in

626
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Speaker 10: the high red zone and Donald certainly can make throws

627
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Speaker 10: rolling to his left, and this is just the design

628
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Speaker 10: and the secution beating the defense. And Darnold's in a

629
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Speaker 10: really good situation. And by the way, they have a

630
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Speaker 10: very good defense that's only going to get better in Seattle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they we just we were talking today about the

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Speaker 1: Athletic had a They surveyed twenty nine execs, gms and

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Speaker 1: coaches on the best front offices and it might as

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Speaker 1: well have been my heard hierarchy, my top ten teams.

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Speaker 1: And it's like, there's right. People think the gap in

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Speaker 1: this league is quarterbacks and coaches. But Seattle John Snyder,

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Speaker 1: when you watch them play. They may not have the

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Speaker 1: eagle roster, but Greg Seattle is fast. They don't Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and they've got.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, and defensively, Colin, I'm telling you you look at

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Speaker 10: that roster. Defensively, they've got a very good roster.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, great stuff, Greg Cosel as always NFL films forty

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Speaker 1: six years. Great talking to you on a Thursday, Greg.

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Speaker 10: Thanks, Colin, always appreciate it. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so much of this league is upstairs. But

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you don't know. Some guys take

647
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Speaker 1: a while to develop and draft. And everybody was worried

648
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Speaker 1: about jsn Is he going to be? Is he going

649
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Speaker 1: to be a number one receiver for Seattle? And it's

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Speaker 1: like I just trusted John Snyder. He looks like a

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Speaker 1: number one. Then they went and get this kid from

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Speaker 1: Holt from Colorado State in the fifth round and it's like,

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Speaker 1: what is it Horton? My bad, it looks like he's

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Speaker 1: a number two. Now it's early whatever, But Seattle's done

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Speaker 1: a really good job to get third, fourth, fifth, sixth

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Speaker 1: round guys who can play. They got a running back

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Speaker 1: from Miami in the seventh round. He hadn't played a

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Speaker 1: ton yet, but I watched him in College Martinez and

659
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Speaker 1: it was like he averaged four and a half yard

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Speaker 1: every time I watched Miami. He was a good player.

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Speaker 1: It's like, how is he available in the seventh round?

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Speaker 1: So you know what, the guys upstairs have a huge

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Speaker 1: influence in this league.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and Neon Eastern not a im pacific.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've said this now for some time, as

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Speaker 1: I think you can fool people in the first week

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Speaker 1: or like, for instance, your legit Detroit Lions have an

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Speaker 1: all new staff. They look terrible in the first week.

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Speaker 1: The Jets defense first week defense looked terrible with Aaron Glenn.

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Speaker 1: When you have new staffs, nobody plays starters in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: Week one now feels like an extension of the preseason.

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Speaker 1: In weeks two and three, you're just trying to kind

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Speaker 1: of figure your way out. But I think as you

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Speaker 1: get to week three, four and five, it's harder to

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Speaker 1: fool people. You become what you are. So Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 1: for instance, if you go to week one against the Jets,

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Speaker 1: it was unbelievable, but Tomlin had been there for a while,

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Speaker 1: a lot of their personnel had been there. Aaron and

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Speaker 1: DK Metcalf were the new guys, and the Jets had

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Speaker 1: an entirely new coaching staff and Aaron Rodgers in Week

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Speaker 1: one against the Jets was unbelievable. Four touchdowns, no picks.

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Speaker 1: He completed seventy three percent of his throws. His passer

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Speaker 1: rating was one thirty seven. Since then, now people have

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Speaker 1: film Rogers against Seattle in New England. Seattle's really good defense,

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Speaker 1: New England, really good coaching staff. He struggled sixty percent

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Speaker 1: completion rate, passer rating in the low thirties, and PFF

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Speaker 1: has him as the second worst graded quarterback. And now

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Speaker 1: veteran quarterbacks tend to like structure and habits. Now you're

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Speaker 1: sending the old guy overseas, and what do you know?

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Speaker 1: The Vikings with Brian Flores, top six defense, top three

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Speaker 1: in pressures, top three in takeaways, number four, number four

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Speaker 1: in pressures, take it away, number three pass defense. So

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Speaker 1: this is a prime example where I think Minnesota's got

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Speaker 1: the best overall roster compared to these two. I think

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Speaker 1: their coaching staff is better. I think they'll travel well.

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Speaker 1: I think Carson Wentz, you don't have a ton of film.

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Speaker 1: If you're the Steelers. How many times have you played him?

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of stuff. I think the Vikings right

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Speaker 1: now are an underrated team. They gave Caleb Williams fits

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Speaker 1: Vikings are undefeated in international games. I think the Steelers

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Speaker 1: cannot figure out their offensive line in run game for

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Speaker 1: seven years. So I really like Minnesota in this game.

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Speaker 1: And that's how we've come to the conclusion on that

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Speaker 1: Fisher on the corner. First, Jmax with the news.

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Speaker 2: Now this is the herdline news.

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Speaker 6: Let's start with the Baltimore Ravens Kansas City Chiefs. Huge, huge,

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Speaker 6: enormous games Sunday afternoon.

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Speaker 5: Ravens one and two. So are the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 6: These teams have had their battles. Usually Casey comes out

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Speaker 6: on top. Lamar Jackson knows the team needs to get

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Speaker 6: it together and fast.

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Speaker 12: We just got to lock in on what's the hair

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Speaker 12: right now? You know the game better and practice, watch

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Speaker 12: film one of those guys, watch ourselves, salescouty ourselves.

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Speaker 10: Just get after it.

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Speaker 12: Come Sunday. Last three games, even even with the win

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Speaker 12: versus Cleveland, we was we started off slow. You know,

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Speaker 12: we just gotta play how we played ball, you know,

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Speaker 12: play football player raven football.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean is it personnel? You know, we talked

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Speaker 1: Greg cosal hour ago said Roe. Kwan Smith, a great player,

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Speaker 1: did not play a particularly well. They were missing two starters,

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Speaker 1: and I and I will argue that Detroit was a

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Speaker 1: bad matchup when you're missing two of your guys up front.

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Speaker 1: Van Ney Detroit's offensive lines road grading it was. I

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Speaker 1: thought it was a bad matchup. I didn't think it

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Speaker 1: would look like that. But I do think the defense

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Speaker 1: will give a very spirited effort. And also they go

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Speaker 1: from facing the lions and armor on Saint Brown to

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Speaker 1: a battle line with no run games. So I think

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Speaker 1: Kansas City Baltimore, I'd take the points. I think it's

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Speaker 1: low scoring.

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Speaker 5: Well, remember as a draft they went and.

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Speaker 6: Got Malachi Starks, the kid out of.

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Speaker 1: Believe that in Georgia.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm like, why are you doing that? You

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Speaker 5: already have Kyle Hamilton.

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Speaker 6: And then we're like, oh, well the Ravens are smart,

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Speaker 6: they must.

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Speaker 5: Be ahead of the curve. Well, they don't really have

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Speaker 5: a front at all.

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Speaker 6: Did you see Montgomery just running wild on them like

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Speaker 6: he went crazy? Josh Allen and James Cook like, I

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Speaker 6: almost wonder if they kind of bricked it.

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Speaker 5: Now, it is early, it's only been three games.

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Speaker 6: However, the stat you need to know Colin thirteen percent

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Speaker 6: of one in three teams make the playoffs, just thirteen

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Speaker 6: and the last team to win this to make the

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Speaker 6: Super Bowl that started one to three Patriots. So I

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Speaker 6: don't want to say you crossed the loser off here

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Speaker 6: from making the super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: But it's a bit of an uphill climb. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: a bit of a rubicon here. I mean, you get

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Speaker 1: you do get to a point where I don't think

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Speaker 1: I didn't you know, in the Super Bowl bubble, you

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Speaker 1: didn't mention this. I didn't put Kansas City in it

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Speaker 1: or near it. I just I think it's an offensive league.

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Speaker 1: I think you have to be able to score points.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we haven't seen Rashi Rice is talented, but

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Speaker 1: because of his off field stuff banged up, we don't

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Speaker 1: know what you're getting when he gets back. So I

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Speaker 1: think Baltimore is the kind of team that could win

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Speaker 1: multiple playoff games because they'll be super explosive. And I

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Speaker 1: don't think the AFC this year. I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: as good as it's been in previous years. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Houston was a rising team, they're not anymore. Jacksonville doesn't

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Speaker 1: look to be any good by the way Miami. They're

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Speaker 1: not dangerous anymore. New England's in a rebuild mode, so

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Speaker 1: I and Cincinnati Joe Burrows hurt. So I I do

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Speaker 1: think they can win playoff games, but I don't think

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Speaker 1: you can be a super Bowl team and get pushed around,

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Speaker 1: and I think Baltimore will be.

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Speaker 6: I'll offer an olive branch to Chiefs fans. Their two

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Speaker 6: losses are to undefeated Chargers and undefeated Eagles, So maybe, hey,

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Speaker 6: they're not a superstar top five team, but they're probably

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Speaker 6: not like the seventeenth best team in the league either,

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Speaker 6: right Is that fair? All right, let's move on Colin.

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Speaker 6: Next story is the Bears and Raiders this weekend. Remember

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Speaker 6: at the draft, Ashton Genty was really linked to Chicago,

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Speaker 6: but the Raiders grabbed him sixth. So the Bears head

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Speaker 6: to Vegas Sunday to take on Ashton Genty. And here's

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Speaker 6: Ben Johnson talking about the young stud running back.

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Speaker 13: He's a phenomenal player. I thought the world of him.

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Speaker 13: You know, he's a hard guy to bring down, compact

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Speaker 13: yet powerful. You know, you better have low pad level

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Speaker 13: when you're looking to tackle this guy, or else he's

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Speaker 13: going to lower his shoulder and run you over.

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Speaker 10: He's got that mentality.

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Speaker 13: He brought it with him from college. You see it

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Speaker 13: through the first three games of the season so far,

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Speaker 13: where he's fearless, he sees a little bit of air,

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Speaker 13: he steps on the gas, and he plays violently. So

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Speaker 13: he's a guy that we're certainly aware of, and you know,

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Speaker 13: we got to do with the best that we can

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Speaker 13: to bottle him up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if I was Chicago, this is a scary game.

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Speaker 1: You play out of your mind against a very soft team.

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Speaker 1: Now you go on the road the Raiders. You know

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Speaker 1: you've got an excellent veteran coaching staff Pete Carroll, Chip Kelly.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say this about Ashton genty. There's a stat

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Speaker 1: out there it's hard to wrap your brains around of

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Speaker 1: his like one hundred forty four rushing yards or something.

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Speaker 1: One hundred forty four are after contact. So the reality

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Speaker 1: is there, the offensive line is not getting a push

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Speaker 1: and so he's having to do it all on his own.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of what I read into that staff.

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Speaker 6: He's getting buried in the backseiel fifty seven percent of

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Speaker 6: the time, he's getting hit at the line of scrimmage. Now,

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Speaker 6: some of that has to do with brock Bowers being

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Speaker 6: dinged up. I'm just gonna again, maybe this is just

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Speaker 6: a gambler and me talking. Last week, we love the

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Speaker 6: Cowboys Bears over it didn't hit Colin.

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Speaker 1: I'm just curious.

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Speaker 6: Ceedee Lamb gets hurt first quarter, knocked out early. What

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Speaker 6: if he doesn't get knocked out of that game. I

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Speaker 6: think Dallas moves up and down the field, and maybe

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Speaker 6: that's a closer game. Maybe the Bears don't win. I

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Speaker 6: think the Raiders are the side. I don't know about

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Speaker 6: you against Ceedee Lamb, you saw that they have a

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Speaker 6: single point of failure. If Lamb's down, they got nothing.

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Speaker 6: Picketts ain'a one running games on existent offensive line.

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Speaker 1: Is I will say, I have I feel strongly about

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Speaker 1: four games this week, and so tonight's the night I

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Speaker 1: dig into all the numbers and really get into it.

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Speaker 1: I already know for I'm looking for a fifth. But

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm with you. I think the Raiders are the side.

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Speaker 1: I mean again, we're talking about Chicago's got a lot

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Speaker 1: of young players on that offense. Loveland Burden, It's Caleb

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Speaker 1: Williams there. They're one of their tackles. The Romadunze like

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Speaker 1: a new off young head coach. Like these road games

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Speaker 1: in the NFL are a different. But we saw what

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Speaker 1: happened in Detroit. They were overwhelmed. They just unraveled. Allegiant

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Speaker 1: is loud. You have a veteran coaching staff. Gino has

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Speaker 1: been around the league for a Gino, when there is

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Speaker 1: an intense pressure on it can let it rip. He

838
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Speaker 1: can spin it. So I don't like this spot for

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Speaker 1: the Bears.

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Speaker 10: I'm with you.

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Speaker 6: Final story, Colin is Seahawks Cardinals tonight. I teased it

842
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Speaker 6: early in the show. I got some Kyler stuff for you.

843
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Speaker 6: I'll give it to you after this SoundBite. But Kyler

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Speaker 6: Murray talked about the Cardinals offense without James Connor.

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Speaker 5: They got to get on the same page. Just a

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Speaker 5: big game for Arizona. Here's Kyler.

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Speaker 14: We gotta be more consistent. We got to make the

848
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Speaker 14: plays when they're there. It's really simple, as simple as that.

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Speaker 14: You know, it's really not a complicated game. You gotta

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Speaker 14: make plays. I'm trying to build confidence each and every

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Speaker 14: day and continue to give my guys opportunities when they're

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Speaker 14: when they're there. I'm gonna continue to do you know. Obviously,

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Speaker 14: Drew mixed calls and then we got to go out

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Speaker 14: there in next Q. But when whenever the opportunity presents

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Speaker 14: is so for the chances are there, I'm definitely gonna

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Speaker 14: give my guys opportunities.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you. They had that San Francisco game.

858
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 1: They got a safety, they led, they had the ball

859
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: at midfield, they picked up a first down. You looked

860
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: up and the Niners were hitting a game winning field goal.

861
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: That was one of those you'll look back on your

862
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: schedule and you'll be like, how did we lose that game?

863
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: They outgained him, they out rushed him, Arizona gave that

864
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 1: puppy away.

865
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, and Marvin Harrison went to drop so Kyler in

866
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 6: two games against Seattle last year, five carries for twenty

867
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 6: five yards in two games Colin He had two of

868
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 6: his worst games of the season against them at a

869
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 6: brutal pick six, Arizona one for five in the red zone.

870
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 6: I'm just gonna remind people, and you know this, McDonald

871
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 6: is a really sharp guy.

872
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 5: He is a great defensive coordinator. He's a hardball guy.

873
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 6: He's with John Harbaugh and Baltimore, Jim Harbaugh at Michigan

874
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 6: and Drew Petzig. You know Arizona Cardinal fans a little

875
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 6: worried about this guy. Witherspoon is back for Seattle tonight.

876
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 6: He's the chess piece who gets after Kyler.

877
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 5: Seahawks win Handley.

878
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: All right, Bunny J Mack with the news.

879
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping that.

880
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: The herd lie Jetfish for a long time. He turned

881
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: around an Arizona program that was absolutely lost. Very good personnel.

882
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:19,720
Speaker 1: I they put a lot of guys in the league,

883
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 1: and now he's got the Huskies. They're undefeated. They faced

884
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: number one Ohio State at Husky Stadium, a place I've

885
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: been a few times, and Jetfish is joining us live.

886
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: It is going to be loud in Seattle. Goodness see it.

887
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 3: Jed.

888
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: First of all, it is you've been doing this a

889
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: long time, Belichick, Pete Carroll, you've been McVeigh college, you've

890
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: been pro in college. This is one of those games,

891
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: and you probably had a lot of them in Arizona.

892
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: You don't you eventually you won't have many at Washington,

893
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: but this may be one of the games that you

894
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: look at the personnel on film and go, okay, they

895
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: got a lot of NFL bodies. So you go in

896
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: as a home underdog. When you go into a game

897
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: and you look at that film and you're like, man,

898
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: they got some they got some dudes here. How do

899
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: you convince your team very early in that game we're

900
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: the better team, play with confidence, because Ohio State can

901
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: shrink a lot of confidence in this sport.

902
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think. I don't think our team's thinking

903
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 3: like that. I think our team's excited about this opportunity.

904
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 3: We're playing really good football right now. We've played really

905
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 3: good on offense, we're playing good on defense, we're taking

906
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 3: the ball away, we're scoring points. Our guys are fired up.

907
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 3: We got a lot of NFL players on our roster

908
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 3: right now, and we're going to go attack and we're

909
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 3: gonna go be aggressive, and we know we got a

910
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 3: tough challenge in front of us, but we're just excited

911
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 3: about that opportunity.

912
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,439
Speaker 1: A lot of people haven't seen demand Williams your quarterback play.

913
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: I got a text yesterday from an NFL former NFL

914
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: quarterback and he's like, this kid can spin it. He goes,

915
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: don't you think he'll be the second best quarterback in

916
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: the field. He's like, this kid is a rising star.

917
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: If our audience has never seen your quarterback play, tell

918
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: us about him.

919
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he's a lite in a lot of

920
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 3: different capacities. He's only nineteen years old. We played him

921
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 3: last year in every game about ten plays, played about

922
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 3: ten plays when we beat Michigan, about ten plays against

923
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 3: sc UCLA, and then he played the second half of

924
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 3: the game against Penn State Oregon, and then started against

925
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 3: Oregon and the bowl game. He's got unbelievable skills. He

926
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 3: can throw the ball as well as anybody I've ever

927
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 3: been around in college football, and he could run the

928
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 3: ball better than any guy I've been around in Pro

929
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 3: War college football. He is fast, he's electric, but he's

930
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 3: an incredible decision maker. He's you know, I think we've

931
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 3: gotten I don't know, maybe in his career sixteen touchdowns,

932
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 3: one interception. He just takes care of the ball. He

933
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 3: protects the ball, he understands the ball is our program.

934
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 3: And he's an elite leader for only being a sophomore.

935
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 1: So you're going to face Jeremiah Smith, who I said

936
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 1: last year probably the best freshman I have ever seen

937
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: in college football. He looked like an NFL player, you know,

938
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: there's two ways to go about it, all right, bracket

939
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: and take it out. We're just going to commit to

940
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: that side. But again, you're confident. Washington's always had good corners.

941
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: It seems like forever you've had good corners, you know

942
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: that you've coached against them, you've coached them. When you

943
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: face a guy that is that special, is there a

944
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: plan of attack or I mean, do you have to

945
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: spend all afternoon on it? But he's an unstoppable force

946
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: in in you know, in individual coverage.

947
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no question. I mean, he's elite, elite to

948
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 3: lead elite, right, We had a guy like that at

949
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 3: t MAC when we were at Arizona's what the eighth

950
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 3: overall pick. I think we have a guy like that

951
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 3: in Denzel Boston currently on our team, where you know,

952
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 3: you one guy doesn't really defend those guys. It takes two,

953
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 3: and it takes a mix of coverages, it takes all

954
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 3: different plans. We've got really good corners. We got two

955
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 3: six foot four corners and you know they're they're pretty

956
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 3: special players, NFL talents. But this guy's elite and we're

957
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 3: going to have to mix it up. We can't just

958
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 3: do one thing on defense, or they'll be you know,

959
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 3: there'll be no chance to be able to take this

960
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 3: guy away. We got to do multiple different things, multiple

961
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 3: different looks, and always have him in our sites. But

962
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 3: the other the guy they got on the other side, Tait,

963
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 3: is pretty good also, So we got a lot of

964
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:22,879
Speaker 3: work to do to be able to defend this team.

965
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: I said, I felt both you and Oregon would do

966
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 1: very well in the Big Ten. You're playing you know,

967
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: sometimes windy, wet weather. I wouldn't worry about the palm trees.

968
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: I said, Washington and Oregon they're going to do just fine.

969
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: They're going to hold you know, they're going to play

970
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 1: home games, and those Big ten teams are going to

971
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 1: come out West and find out how loud it is.

972
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: Do you recruit though, whether it's portal or high school.

973
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: You know you're down in Arizona, recruit in Texas heavy.

974
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 1: Do you recruit differently knowing you have a Big ten schedule.

975
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,240
Speaker 3: Well, we're able to be a little more national recruiting

976
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 3: wise because of the fact that we could sell that

977
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 3: we're gonna be playing on the East Coast, we're gonna

978
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,240
Speaker 3: be playing in the West Coast. We're gonna be playing

979
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 3: in the Midwest. You know, there's so many different areas

980
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,919
Speaker 3: that we'll be able to attack that people can watch

981
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 3: them on TV or come to a game. We had

982
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,399
Speaker 3: three East Coast games last year. We had three this year,

983
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 3: so it's pretty cool in that regard. Unfortunately, you know,

984
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 3: we don't know the game times all the way too early,

985
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 3: so we can't tell them exactly what it's gonna look

986
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 3: like to try to get them there. But we do

987
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 3: feel like we can nationally recruit. We were in the

988
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 3: National Championship Game two years ago, so people know who

989
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 3: Washington is. They played Michigan on the big stage. We

990
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 3: got to find a way to get back there. To

991
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 3: continue to re emphasize the type of program that we are.

992
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: You had to replace this is insane. Eleven offensive starters.

993
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: There's no way in your career you've ever had to

994
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: do that. When you now, good, good thing, you got

995
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: the portal, hell help a lot. But when you replace

996
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: eleven starters, did you look at it and go, Okay,

997
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 1: we got to be ramped up here. Ohio State's coming

998
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: to our place. Was it a slow process or did

999
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 1: you think to yourself, Hey, I'm just gonna dump the

1000
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: playbook on him. You guys are nineteen twenty twenty one,

1001
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: figured out how have you grown with the eleven new

1002
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: offensive starters?

1003
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, luckily they were They came in the spring

1004
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,919
Speaker 3: and we were able. We're starting in this game two

1005
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 3: freshman wide receivers and a freshman guard and a nineteen

1006
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 3: year old quarterback, and we're young. We're young in a

1007
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 3: lot of areas, and we just felt like we needed

1008
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 3: to be able to fast forward the learning curve. And

1009
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 3: fortunately I worked for Jim Harbaugh for a couple of years.

1010
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 3: When we got to Michigan together, and you know, training camp,

1011
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 3: there's no need to not meet, and there's no need

1012
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 3: to not practice. And we met a lot and we

1013
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 3: practiced a lot, and we made football the most important thing.

1014
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 3: And when you have that hardball mentality a little bit,

1015
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 3: you just you realize like you could just find ways,

1016
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 3: find ways to teach them football and just infuse football

1017
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 3: into their blood.

1018
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 1: When we first met, I told you I grew up

1019
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: as a Husky fan and had been the Husky stadium,

1020
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: and I remember exactly what you said. You're like, man,

1021
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,760
Speaker 1: that is a get a job and stay there forever job.

1022
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: You had said like that place is crazy? Has it

1023
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: fulfilled Husky Stadium afternoon? Is it as special as you

1024
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: thought it would be?

1025
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 3: Yeah? You know when we first met, I think I

1026
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 3: was zero and two or owing three against you dub

1027
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 3: on the road up at Husky Stadium, and the place

1028
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 3: was just uniquely you know, just a unique spot of

1029
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 3: just noise and the stadiums so beautiful and we're six

1030
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 3: to o it. Well, now we're eight and oh at home.

1031
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 3: Since I've been here, and it's been pretty cool. The environment,

1032
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 3: the way it feels, the way it looks. You know

1033
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 3: the fact that families can take boats over to the games,

1034
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 3: and it's so loud, and it's going to be rockin'

1035
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:08,399
Speaker 3: uh tomorrow on Saturday, and it's going to be noon

1036
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 3: or twelve thirty kickoff all purple and uh. I just

1037
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 3: called our fans and our student section. Man, let's just

1038
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 3: let's make this thing elite.

1039
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: Oh, it will be. You know, you were a college

1040
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: roommate of Howie Roseman. Everybody knows that. And listen, I

1041
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: know how he's picked your brain. But my guess is

1042
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: you call him and pick his brain. What and I

1043
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 1: think he's the best gym in football? What is how

1044
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:38,240
Speaker 1: we taught you that you could tell our audience publicly

1045
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: about personnel and how he views athletes, because I guarantee

1046
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 1: you he's picked your brain more than once.

1047
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean we have a great, obviously give

1048
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 3: and take relationship, and I'm constantly trying to understand, you know,

1049
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 3: how to how to make the most of this new

1050
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 3: era where we're you know, where we're playing with a

1051
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 3: with a cap, how to know spend your resources. I've

1052
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 3: talked to him numerous times about what type of investment

1053
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 3: you make in the trenches versus the perimeter, what type

1054
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 3: of investment you make when you re sign your quarterback,

1055
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 3: and what does that mean. Hiring staff. He's an amazing

1056
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 3: you know, you look at the guys he's hired. You know,

1057
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 3: he's been to the super Bowl with Doug Peterson, He's

1058
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 3: been to the Super Bowl with Nick Sterry, and he's

1059
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 3: won super Bowls with both those guys. Been to the

1060
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 3: Super Bowl with Andy Reid, Hired Chip Kelly. You know,

1061
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 3: he's he's just hired great coaches, hired assistant coaches. Vick

1062
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 3: Fangio's his defensive coordinator. Just constantly is in that process

1063
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 3: of finding coaches and finding players. So we talk about

1064
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 3: where do you want to invest your team, And if

1065
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 3: you look at their D line, what they've you know,

1066
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 3: what they've decided on is they're going to win in

1067
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 3: the trenches and they're going to find a quarterback that

1068
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 3: can both run and throw. And if you look at

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Speaker 3: what we're trying to do, we're trying to win in

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Speaker 3: the trenches and we're trying to find that quarterback that

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Speaker 3: can both run and throw and has extreme leadership. And

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Speaker 3: I think we're trying to replicate that model that he

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Speaker 3: has with the running back Jonah Coleman for us, say

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Speaker 3: quant for him, with the receivers aj for him, and

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Speaker 3: then obviously Denzel for us, and then with that offensive

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Speaker 3: line of defensive line.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, every time the Huskies have the right coach,

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Speaker 1: go back to Don James, Rick Neuheisel got to a

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Speaker 1: Rose Bowl, Chris Peterson got to the playoff, and Kaylin

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Speaker 1: de Boorr got in there. I've always said when Washington

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Speaker 1: gets the right coach, they're very good and they get

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Speaker 1: it rolling. And now you have a national conference in

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Speaker 1: the Big Ten. I got to ask you one question,

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Speaker 1: two quick ones. One, you've been under McVeigh, Belichick, Pete

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Speaker 1: and Harball I said this, I got pushback. I said,

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Speaker 1: is hardball count Collagen pro? Is he the best football

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Speaker 1: coach ever? He's He's taken five messes, They're good. Instantly

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Speaker 1: he leaves in there? No good again? What is I

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Speaker 1: ask everybody this that knows him, what is his secret?

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Speaker 1: Sauce if I.

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Speaker 8: Never met him?

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Speaker 1: And I said, Jed, what's this mystery? Coach? Jim Harball like,

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Speaker 1: what would you answer?

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Speaker 3: His genuine love for football rubs off on everybody in

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Speaker 3: the room. And I saw your take.

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Speaker 1: On that of here, say, this kid for Washington is

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Speaker 1: the real deal. I can't wait to watch it, Jed.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you giving us ten minutes. You know I'm

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Speaker 1: a huge fan.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks, Colin. I appreciate you having me all right.

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Speaker 1: The Huskies Husky Stadium. I mean, how lucky are we

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Speaker 1: this weekend? I mean you got two three of the

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Speaker 1: biggest games of the weekend. Oh that's crazy, Jay Matt,

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Speaker 1: Can I interest you in a money line Husky?

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Speaker 3: Bet?

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Speaker 10: No? But I did.

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Speaker 5: I took the ten that's long.

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Speaker 1: Ah God, Yeah, it's going to be a listen, Julian

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Speaker 1: Sand's a kid. Ohio State sending a kid.

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Speaker 6: They haven't played like a real road game with this

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Speaker 6: young quarterback, So you're right, it could be a hostile

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Speaker 6: environment between that game. I like Bama, you were on Georgia,

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Speaker 6: obviously Penn State. There's just a lot of action this weekend.

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Speaker 6: Probably can't go out drinking Friday.

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Speaker 1: Can you a big guy? You know what I've You know,

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Speaker 1: I get home and do homework. I do analytic break now.

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Speaker 6: Crunching that Illinois depth chart with all those injuries. Liner,

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Speaker 6: you know, is on my basketball team, was telling me, hey,

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Speaker 6: Illinois really banged up.

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Speaker 1: They are.

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Speaker 6: It's like, oh boy, Coward's gonna feast when USC. Maybe

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Speaker 6: you open with the Trojans one day if the if

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Speaker 6: US he puts one on Illinois.

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Speaker 1: You you framed me as some sort of homer. Oh honesty,

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Speaker 1: broker day one to the very.

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Speaker 6: End, you know, I think I see can you tell

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Speaker 6: show me what T shirt you're wearing under that?

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Speaker 5: It looks like the maroon from USC. Can I see

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Speaker 5: that as peeking.

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