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Speaker 2: I'm Mike Carmon. Welcome in. You hear me with Jason

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Speaker 2: There you go, hustling all the way through, keeping you

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Speaker 2: apprized of everything going on in our NBA. What a

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Speaker 2: busy weekend it is. And I just start with this

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Speaker 2: mark after a week of goodwill where they overwhelmed Super

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Speaker 2: because they don't call it radio row anymore because we're

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Speaker 2: talking all media, all encompassing big hug. That the NBA,

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Speaker 2: the trade deadline, obviously, the seismic shift. I went and

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Speaker 2: kind of jumping into la. That was Luka Doncic and

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Speaker 2: his effect. Right, Harrison Ford is the big redmnuch. You've

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Speaker 2: seen the commercials. I'm not spoiling anything, is. It took

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Speaker 2: over and we had a week of good will. Nobody

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Speaker 2: was talking about the game, problems with the game and

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Speaker 2: anything else. Maybe some problems with teams making trades and

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Speaker 2: quote quitting, but we we celebrated the game for a

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Speaker 2: week and then came All Star weekend and well we're

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Speaker 2: right back in the same spot.

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Speaker 3: We are back to normal. We're now seeing a skills

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Speaker 3: contest that was boring, you know some and we'll get

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Speaker 3: into it later. Didn't take it seriously. We have a

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Speaker 3: three point contest that was okay, but not great and

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Speaker 3: another dunk contest where macmclung had to come in and

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Speaker 3: save the day. Outside of his heroics, it was another

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Speaker 3: ho hum contest. So yeah, status quo. As usual for

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Speaker 3: All Star.

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Speaker 2: We cout, so we get right back into the negativity

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Speaker 2: and ah the game and what's wrong with the game,

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Speaker 2: And and again Adam Silver for all the incoming he

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Speaker 2: takes you and I talking a little bit as we're

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Speaker 3: The NBA is gonna be okay. Don't worry, Mike.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna be standing standing around, you know,

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Speaker 2: Not to denigrate anybody that does that. I love the hustle.

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Speaker 2: as you have your your maiden voyage here on a

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Speaker 2: Sunday morning with me here. I mean, you've covered this

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Speaker 2: league extensively obviously in the last couple of weeks, a

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Speaker 2: behind the scenes, right, get into the dirty, soft underbelly.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not making Luca fat jokes like so many

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Speaker 2: people when I say that of that trade and how

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Speaker 2: it came down, still a lot of a lot of

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Speaker 2: misgivings or anger, I think would be the more proper term,

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Speaker 2: especially in Dallas, but even here in La was all right,

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Speaker 2: what does this mean? Everybody trying to go big picture

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Speaker 2: instead of in the moment just going Lucas showed up.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna play some basketball.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. It was wild seeing Luca's debut earlier this week

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Speaker 2: And you saw Lebron's buy into it a couple of

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Speaker 3: Well, he bought into it from start to finish. It

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Speaker 3: started with texting Luca Dncht saying hey, handle it however

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Speaker 3: recall during his years the second go around with Cleveland,

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Speaker 3: and be a part of something special direct completely a

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Speaker 3: completely opposite message that he gave for Luca. Understandably so

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Speaker 3: because Luca is a special player. But yeah, a lot

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Speaker 3: of buzz across the board, but a lot of questions

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they obviously get a couple of quasi

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Speaker 2: them all. Congratulations to those on the Utah Jazz that

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Speaker 2: no longer a camelot. Everything isn't great, and now we

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Speaker 2: what is All Star weekend. Right, all of that happens,

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Speaker 2: and people can complain about timing. It's never a good time.

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Speaker 2: It's like anything in your life, right, there's really never

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Speaker 2: a reason or multiple reasons not to. And so we

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Speaker 3: Right, He smiled and clapped for Buddy heeled pay.

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Speaker 2: He was very, very excited for Buddy heeld'snd. So that

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Speaker 2: But all of that say, we get to All Star

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Speaker 2: of the oh why won't they participate? It's the same

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Speaker 2: tired argument, but it's nothing anybody's addressing. The closest we

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Speaker 2: Tenna Cooper going hey, this guy makes me might want

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Speaker 2: if you don't participate next year, are you ready for

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Speaker 2: that incoming? Both you guys have shown yourself as kind

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Speaker 2: if they don't actually participate?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna say this now, they're not going to participate.

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Speaker 3: And I understand why they're not going to participate. When

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Speaker 3: it was impressive, but he also I kind of clipped

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Speaker 3: I'm telling John Morant, no, you are not participating the

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Speaker 3: John Morant has vowed, you know what, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 3: dunk anymore. Now he did break that because he did

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Speaker 3: dunk contest. It was fun to see the tweet because

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Speaker 3: it gives us something to talk about. But I think

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Speaker 2: Everybody just said, hey, you need to be active on

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Speaker 2: All Star Saturday night and need at least one tweet

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Speaker 2: from you about what's going on. But to that point,

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Speaker 2: let's do the dunk contest. Mac McClung people do in

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Speaker 2: know there's some noise about two way contracts and stuff.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a huge Let's bring out a bunch of

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Speaker 2: all right, Stefan Castle did some really crazy creative stuff

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Speaker 2: that by comparison doesn't rate the same. Right, he goes

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Speaker 2: let's add another whatever it was, another foot riser, and

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Speaker 2: chaos that comes with all of that. But just as

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Speaker 2: I'll take what Castle did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the purity, the.

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Speaker 2: Sanctity or whatever it is. And it's got nothing to

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Speaker 2: some people mad that he Participated's like, you're trying to

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Speaker 2: how do we complain about it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not going to complain at all about mac

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Speaker 3: mcclong being part of it. I mean he's embraced it. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: he's not a star player. So this helps him. But

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Speaker 3: you know, he also could very well say I'm not

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Speaker 3: going to be a part of this because I'm trying

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Speaker 3: to protect my NBA future just to make sure I'm

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Speaker 3: not in the G League. And he didn't do that.

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Speaker 3: And I understand your point that everyone has a different taste.

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Speaker 3: Some don't want the props, some reward the props because

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Speaker 3: of creativity. But the bottom line is it was still

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Speaker 2: fight through the media. I don't have any numbers after

429
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,719
Speaker 2: my Twitter handle just yet, and I think he's afraid

430
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 2: to say at Swollen Dome in a press conference. But

431
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,120
Speaker 2: we're at the All Star Game, the celebration, and one

432
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 2: of the things with Luca we get into this battle

433
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 2: mark all the time is the you know, face of

434
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 2: the game, right, the Elder Statesman lebron At every turn

435
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 2: telling you I'm not gonna do this much longer. I'm

436
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 2: not gonna be here much longer. Steph Curry will get

437
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 2: to his comments next hour about you know, how he

438
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 2: wants to go out. But then you the young guys

439
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 2: being asked point blank, hey, do you want to be

440
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 2: the face of the league. Anthony Edwards had his thoughts

441
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 2: uh as to how he wants to pursue this.

442
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: Consider yourself the top candidate to be the next phase

443
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:12,919
Speaker 1: of the league.

444
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 3: No, not really, that's what they got. Uh, that's what

445
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 3: they got.

446
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: Went before.

447
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 2: He went on to say, I just want to be

448
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 2: the guy that comes in and beats you. Other people

449
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 2: can do that kind of talking about responsibility and the

450
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 2: gravi toss that goes with being the face of the leaks,

451
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 2: like I just want to come in, do my work

452
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 2: and go. And then clearly it's like everybody assembled, because

453
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 2: it's you know, the media scrum of who you're going

454
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 2: to see and which guy you're standing in front of whatever.

455
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,919
Speaker 2: Sometimes you're the only guy on the dais, you know,

456
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 2: for those you know pulling back the curtain. Every once

457
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 2: in a while there's one or two guys up there,

458
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 2: or you're basically, you've got to go sprint to a

459
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 2: part of the room where the guy is and clearly

460
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 2: when be gonna draw a massive audience when you get

461
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 2: to an All Star game. But Anthony Edwards basically just

462
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 2: saying not me and Mike.

463
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 3: I was, so, what's surprised about Anthony Edwards's comment? Look,

464
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 3: I always normally like his no filter and his honesty

465
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 3: is authenticity. That's one of the reasons why the Wolves

466
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 3: and their fan base are so enamored with him. But

467
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 3: I thought that he would take the reins here. I mean,

468
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 3: we have to keep in mind when he was with

469
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,719
Speaker 3: the US Olympic team last summer and we were talking

470
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 3: to him during practice about who's going to be the

471
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 3: guy who wants to take the last shot. He was

472
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 3: saying he wants to.

473
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 2: Take and we applauded him.

474
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 3: Here was the greatest curR applauded and he said, Look,

475
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 3: we have Lebron and Katie and stuff, but I want

476
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards to say this. And I also am very

477
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 3: well aware. I remember talking to him his second season,

478
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 3: after coming off a really good rookie year, and he

479
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 3: was saying that he didn't feel fully comfortable being someone

480
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 3: that is trying to take a primary scoring load or

481
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 3: having a bigger leadership role because he wanted to respect

482
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 3: the Vets, the locker room dynamics and people appreciated for him.

483
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 3: But if he is being given an opportunity, he should hoist.

484
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 3: He should take that bataon and run with it. Because

485
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 3: Victor Wee Binyama, he's a generational talent. He can become

486
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 3: the voice and face of the league. But as we've

487
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 3: seen in this previous generation, it's not just Steph, it's

488
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 3: not just Lebron, it's not just a rant, it's all

489
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 3: of them. So Anthony Edwards needs to be part of that.

490
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 3: And also you add in the fact that Victor one Binyama,

491
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 3: he's very popular, but he's an international star. It's very

492
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 3: important to be able to hit every single lane, having

493
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 3: international faces of the league, domestic face of the league,

494
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 3: and just make it sure that it's all about a

495
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 3: lot of great stars, not just one player and everyone else.

496
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 2: Because, let's face that was one of Adam Silver's biggest

497
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 2: talking points. He even had a handout about it. Mark.

498
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 2: I mean we were talking about it as we were

499
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 2: getting ready to do the show. I mean, here's all

500
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 2: the international reach for all of you folks that want

501
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 2: to complain about our television ratings or whatever else. Look

502
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 2: at this and like shaking the piece of paper. You

503
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 2: know he's doing this whole thing. I got numbers hit

504
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 2: backs it up. We're all over the globe. Look at

505
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 2: all these guys that are coming to I mean, look

506
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 2: at the way we're doing the game today, which long

507
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,239
Speaker 2: argued go back to the old standard hockey run, not

508
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 2: necessarily the four nation thing like we're doing here for

509
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 2: instead of the NHL All Star Game, but US against

510
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 2: the globe, it always works, tried and true formula. Maybe

511
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 2: it hits a little too much on the nose right now.

512
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 2: And you saw the reaction to just the national anthem

513
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 2: being played in that US Canada game yesterday. For those

514
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 2: that missed the US over Canada in the Nation's Cup,

515
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 2: they'll play on Thursday against Finland, a little little gold

516
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 2: medal rematch all these years later. But to your point, right,

517
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 2: you've got to have guys that represent a bit of everything,

518
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 2: And with Anthony Edward also a hey, you're in a

519
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 2: I don't call any of them small markets, but on

520
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 2: a relative scale, you're a small market guy that they

521
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 2: want to make the face of the league. Hell yeah,

522
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 2: jump on in.

523
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 3: And look, we were talking about this earlier about the

524
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 3: NBA ratings discussion. Where they're at, there might be a decline,

525
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 3: but let's be very clear, the NBA is not going anywhere.

526
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 3: They're in great financial shape. They signed that lucrative TV deal,

527
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 3: and part of it has to do with the fact

528
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 3: and Adam Silver somewhat acknowledged it that their survival their

529
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 3: business model is not dependent on who's viewing the games,

530
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 3: because linear cable is not just the only option. There's

531
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 3: stoke so many streaming platforms. But they're also mindful of

532
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 3: the engagement of watching highlights, game attendance, how many fans

533
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 3: are buying merchandise. But I think it's still important for

534
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 3: the NBA to hit all the different lanes, and one

535
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 3: of the lanes I think is very important, it's lays

536
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 3: Hall start weekend in the game itself and throughout the

537
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 3: regular season the playoffs, is that there still needs to

538
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 3: be an importance for the game itself, not just for players,

539
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 3: but for also fans. And what we've seen in recent

540
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 3: years is there's so much attention on literally every single

541
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 3: thing except for the game. With the personalities, the trades,

542
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 3: the free agency moves, the soap opera, the highlights, but

543
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 3: we don't really talk about the games. And part of

544
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 3: that is because it hasn't been seen as important for organizations,

545
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 3: players and fans. But if they are able to tap

546
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 3: into that more and more, it's gonna make it for

547
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 3: a better product. But how they do that, it's incumbent

548
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 3: on every single young star to lean into wanting to

549
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 3: carry that torch.

550
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a lot of it, you know, as

551
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 2: you unpacked it down down the backside. There is that

552
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 2: we do see and have the the plethora of games

553
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,959
Speaker 2: at our disposal. It's a long slog, right, eighty two games,

554
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: a lot of games wear and tear on the body.

555
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 2: They've done a good job based on fighting with the

556
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 2: union about back to backs, trying to get rid of

557
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 2: the load management scourge that came to the league as

558
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 2: best they can. But the reality is it doesn't feel

559
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: like you've got juice on most nights, right, which is

560
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: why that Luca appearance was something different. Right, all the

561
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 2: celebrities in the crowd, it's all find it good, but

562
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 2: just that you can see it from the television and

563
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 2: you were there, just that juice is in the arena

564
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 2: an hour before you tip off. Yeah, and it stayed right.

565
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 2: You had a palpable buzz around and the court side,

566
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 2: and they did a good job because normally you're framing it.

567
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: It's like a if you have a live event and

568
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 2: you don't sell out the second and third decks, you

569
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,479
Speaker 2: can frame it to where it's like, look at it.

570
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 2: The rock is crowd with those three people.

571
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 4: No.

572
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: No, they did wide crowd shots as many three hundred

573
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 2: levels as you know, celebrity row shots during that lucagame

574
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 2: and they're like, all right, that's what you're trying to get. Now.

575
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 2: You can't do that forty one home dates a year,

576
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 2: but you need it more than once. Yeah, And I

577
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,239
Speaker 2: think that's the larger when we talk about where the

578
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 2: NBA is. You know, look, football is an event. You've

579
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 2: only got seventeen games, You've got nine or eight home

580
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 2: dates depending on what it is. So like there's that

581
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 2: everything matters. The hard part is you get into a

582
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 2: point in the NBA season and this is where I

583
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 2: think for a lot of the players, this is your

584
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 2: take advantage of the moment kind of opportunity. Right, we

585
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: talked about the Super Bowl last week Daytona five hundred

586
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 2: on Fox. Later on today their super Bowl starts their season.

587
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 2: For the NBA, folks are just kind of coming back

588
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 2: and really going to pay attention now. If you're a

589
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 2: really huge fan of a team, you've been in, you've

590
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 2: watched it from day one, coming in October, and you're

591
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 2: here for the casuals that are now looking to fill

592
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,959
Speaker 2: their schedule, this is where you can jump off and

593
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 2: really take it to a whole other level. For Edwards,

594
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 2: for whoever else. Here's your here's your show out opportunity

595
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 2: and a national audience. Yeah.

596
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 3: And I will say, in fairness, I think that we're

597
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 3: going to see some good games today because it's a

598
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 3: new format, And I think the way the new format

599
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 3: works is it's not about time and score. You have

600
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 3: to reach forty points. So we're not going to be

601
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 3: seeing people forcing up shots or just hoisting things because

602
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 3: they want to score forty as quickly as they can.

603
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 3: There's also going to be more of an emphasis on

604
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 3: playing somewhat better defense. Also, the matchups itself, you have

605
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 3: the Ogs against the rising stars. Each generation is going

606
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 3: to want to make a statement. You have the international

607
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 3: stars against the domestic stars. They're going to want to

608
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 3: make a statement. But I do have concerns after this

609
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 3: season can it sustain because you may recall Mike, this

610
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 3: has been an ongoing thing with All Star weekend, the games,

611
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 3: very little defense played, or the games or the players

612
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 3: taken seriously. In the twenty twenty All Star Game in Chicago,

613
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 3: you know, is a month or so after Kobe Bryant's tragedy.

614
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 3: As one of many ways the league wanted to honor him,

615
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 3: Is said, how about we change the format to the game?

616
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 3: Were the first three quid it's played the normal way.

617
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 3: Last quarter you have to reach a target score twenty

618
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 3: four in honor of Kobe's jersey, so you accumulate all

619
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 3: those scores from the first three quarters, and then twenty four.

620
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 3: The first to reach that wins. We saw a really

621
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 3: competitive game because it was a new format. I think

622
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 3: players wanted to honor Kobe because of the circumstances. But

623
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 3: the very next year that fizzle went away, and then

624
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 3: they decided to go back to the normal format again.

625
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 3: I fear that after this season it's going to be

626
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 3: the same thing next year, and we'll see it up

627
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 3: close because it's now into it them in LA. Will

628
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 3: this new tournament format sustain? I have my skepticism because

629
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:39,479
Speaker 3: of the past history.

630
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 2: No, And that's just it, right. It's throwing a lot

631
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: of stuff against the wall to see if it sticks.

632
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 2: Part of it is the player buying the way these

633
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 2: matchups set up. You've got the intrigue of just trying

634
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 2: not to be shown up right, the Ogs as they're called.

635
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 2: You got Draymond Green, and we could do five hours

636
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 2: on everything he had to say, because he said plenty.

637
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: He's media guy, media savvy and really leaning into it,

638
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 2: but basically saying, these guys don't belong on Sunday, like

639
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 2: these guys don't belong here. So the expectation, I think

640
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 2: is that you can instill that in the Ogs to

641
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 2: just go out and slap them around. But I mean

642
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 2: they're gonna go lightly. As we talk about Castle and

643
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 2: some of these other guys that are playing don't connect

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Speaker 2: and he wants in Yeah, right, he's still salty about

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Speaker 2: having been kind of traded.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure he'll want his highlight reel with making

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Speaker 3: a three against Lebron. I think you're also gonna see

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Speaker 3: the og is wanting to make a stand and yeah,

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Speaker 3: We're not gonna let these young kids do anything to us.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, we'll see some good performances. But the larger

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Speaker 3: point that I'm making you hit on it. I wrote

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Speaker 3: it about it as well for a column for RG

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Speaker 3: dot org this week. It comes down to player buying.

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Speaker 3: If they care about the event, it'll be an entertaining event.

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Speaker 3: If they don't care, we'll see what we saw the

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00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 3: last two years of layup lines, threes and no defense

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Speaker 3: and Adam Silver congratulating a team for breaking the record

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Speaker 3: for most points scored, but in a very annoyed, passive

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Speaker 3: aggressive tone. It do we get to be the players

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Speaker 3: buying into this?

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Speaker 2: Can we get more than three files this year? He's

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Speaker 2: Mark mcdo at Mark g Underscore Medina where you find

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Speaker 2: him RG dot org, sports Keta, read him in a

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Speaker 2: number of sites. Obviously you hear him here on Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio during this week and now on Sundays with

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Speaker 2: me for these two hours as we roll through. We

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Speaker 2: Diarraq dot com Fox Sports Radio Studios, there's a new

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Speaker 2: goat that and we'll circle back to the Young Victor

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Speaker 2: Wembin Yama, the Circle of Life, and no we're not

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Speaker 2: talking about the Lion King. He's Mark, I'm Mike. This

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Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Fox Sports Sunday, Fox s Worts Radio,

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Speaker 2: Mike Arment alongside Mark Medina. Thanks for being with us.

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Speaker 2: We know you got a lot of choices the iHeartRadio

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Speaker 2: Medina find me over at Swollen Dome as we look

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Speaker 2: at the All Star World here coming up later on today,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to circle back to the old heads and

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Speaker 2: the new stars. First off, a movie that got announced

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Speaker 2: from a production company. Step Curry wants to evidently be

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Speaker 2: in the Goat conversation now as he's got an animated

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Speaker 2: movie coming out. Not a lot of details except for

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Speaker 2: the logo and the promo of Goat. How do we

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Speaker 2: feel about this?

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Speaker 3: Well, as far as the Goat Conversation, I think it's

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Speaker 3: safe to say he's in there. He's already the greatest

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Speaker 3: shooter of all time. Now where is he ranked in

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Speaker 3: top five? Top ten? Still subject to be changed, but

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Speaker 3: he's in that. How do I feel about the movie

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00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 3: we'll see? I've seeing a lot of good sports movies

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Speaker 3: over the years. We've also seen bad sports movies over

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Speaker 3: the years. But my initial reaction when I saw that

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Speaker 3: plug it was inevitable because it's Steph Curry, the Goat conversation,

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Speaker 3: the rivalry of Lebron James. Do we feel that this

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Speaker 3: movie could be better than the Space Jam sequel that Lebron.

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Speaker 3: That's a good question, So that's what my intent is

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Speaker 3: going to be. When we saw the second Space Jam,

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Speaker 3: inevitably it was the comparison to the first. How's it

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Speaker 3: rack with Michael Jordan's acting, I'm also going to do

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Speaker 3: the line by line comparison of Space Jam with Lebron

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Speaker 3: versus Goat with Steph and whatever that movie's about.

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Speaker 2: That's good. He's from the same production company that did

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Speaker 2: the Spider Verse movies, so at least from a visual perspective,

709
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: probably getting something pretty big. But to that end, we

710
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Speaker 2: also talk on the other end of the spectrum, going

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Speaker 2: back to the competitiveness that we're expecting a little bit

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Speaker 2: later on here with All Star weekend and Victor wembin

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Speaker 2: Yama also at the podium giving us a lot of

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Speaker 2: gems and talking about what his expectations are for later

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Speaker 2: on today. I guess not uh the Victor Wembnyama clip

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Speaker 2: if we could guess.

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Speaker 1: Consider yourself the top candidate to be the next phase

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Speaker 1: of the league.

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Speaker 2: Um no, not really, that's what they got.

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Speaker 3: Uh, that's what they got.

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Speaker 2: Went before there's Anthony Edwards talking about when Ben Yama again, uh,

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Speaker 2: the point of trying to get to the wehen min

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Speaker 2: Yama talking about how he's not here to make friends, right,

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Speaker 2: he's getting ready to come through all the face of

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00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 2: the league questions still out there, and he certainly got

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00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: asked that question. I think that you were asked about rules,

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00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 2: about being commissioner for the day, and about being the

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Speaker 2: face of the league. I think those are the three

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Speaker 2: questions everybody got on media day. But for when Ben

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Speaker 2: Yama an opportunity, I mean, look, I see the lot

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Speaker 2: of the Spurs. I'm in the studio here in the

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Speaker 2: evenings with Smith, so they're part of our like we

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Speaker 2: also have a really intimate knowledge of the Portland Trailblazers.

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Speaker 2: Unlike pretty much anybody in America because they're always in

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Speaker 2: the late window on TNT against the Warriors or whomever.

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Speaker 2: But when we look at ween Binyama, here's an opportunity

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Speaker 2: on a big stage, not that he hasn't already shown

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Speaker 2: and gotten his love, but in another space against all

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Speaker 2: the other all stars, to cement that next step.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and another thing, and I'll read this quote because

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Speaker 3: I wrote it down just to make sure about when

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Speaker 3: he was asking about the game and the conversation we

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Speaker 3: were having on our guy is going to ticket seriously,

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Speaker 3: he made it clear for himself that his goal is

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Speaker 3: not to chill during this game. He wants to be competitive.

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Speaker 3: That's obviously a breath of fresh air. We'll see what happens.

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Speaker 3: It's not surprising because one of the many positive things

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Speaker 3: that the Spurs will tell you about Victor Wembinyama is

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Speaker 3: that he's very emotionally mature. He's a young player, but

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Speaker 3: he has kind of a veteran mindset. He's a real

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Speaker 3: student of the game, hard workers to make the right pass.

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Speaker 3: But that also makes it perplexed and surprising how he

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Speaker 3: treated the skills competition.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing, right, there's a bit of a disconnect.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like they didn't take it seriously. They try to

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Speaker 3: win all technicalities by not shooting the ball because the

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Speaker 3: aim is to finish as quickly as you can. That

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Speaker 3: doesn't show competitive intensity.

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Speaker 2: Well, but that's the question. Yeah, it either does or doesn't.

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Speaker 2: How are we defining competitive intensity? You're trying to win. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and if you found the loophole and then you cleared it,

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Speaker 2: because that's the other thing. Draymond comes back in saying

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Speaker 2: Wemby evidently asked multiple officials. So when he got disqualified,

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Speaker 2: and then they took the ESPN ABC reporter and said

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Speaker 2: you get out of here. We're not doing this now, Like, oh,

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Speaker 2: come on, she's right there.

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Speaker 3: And also his team at Chris Paul mastered the rule book.

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Speaker 3: But I want them to put on the shows. What

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Speaker 3: I'm getting.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's the thing. We'll see what the show becomes

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Speaker 2: as we continue NBA All Star Weekend. Here we're talking

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Speaker 2: our official rundown by our executive producer Shay thanks to

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Speaker 2: Chris Burfette. Hanging out, Manti Bolanos joins us here at

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Speaker 2: the news desk. It's Mike Carbon alongside Mark Medina. You

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Speaker 2: read him RG dot com Sports Keita c him at

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Speaker 2: Jatlon Lindy's at mar G Underscore. Medina is really kind

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Speaker 3: And at Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: I mean obviously we hear that work. You're here, You're

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Speaker 2: what is the term ubiquitous? At this point, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: I could tell by like a sundial there's Mark Medina

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Speaker 2: ready to get after it. You're looking all bright eyed

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Speaker 2: even though you were up late burning the midnight oil

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Speaker 2: talking to Bernie Frato.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's it's around the clock. The NBA

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Speaker 3: never sleep. Sometimes we'll see some good games. Sometimes we don't,

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Speaker 2: Now we're ready for the second half of the season.

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00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 2: But first this little pesky All Star Game different format,

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00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: as we talked about a little bit last hour. Look,

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Speaker 2: the podcast will go up when we're done. Love it,

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Speaker 2: hate it, share it with your friends, send it along,

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00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 2: and let's get that involvement up. React to what we do.

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Speaker 2: If you've got thoughts on the All Star Game again

807
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Speaker 2: at Swollen Dome, at mark g Underscore, Medina, how about

808
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 2: you're watching that? Do you have an alternate viewing plan?

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00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 2: If you saw a good movie and you want to

810
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,479
Speaker 2: put that into the the ether force. I watch Bridge

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Speaker 2: Jones Diary as part of my long day yesterday. I

812
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 2: forgot to talk about that, the new one.

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Speaker 3: What what's your review?

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Speaker 2: I was in a couple of great emotional you know,

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Speaker 2: tug at you and and maybe you know when you

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Speaker 2: when you've got a little Hugh Grant now with the

817
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,520
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00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 2: Colin Firth, that that that it'll get you.

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Speaker 3: I finished the Kobe Bryant three parts, seriously there came

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Speaker 3: out with through CNN. I think a few weeks ago,

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Speaker 3: So that was good. But I have so many endless

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Speaker 3: streaming platform and inevitably because it's a great line of

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Speaker 3: work to work in, but there's all these games that

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00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 3: comes past behind. Yeah, I'm not going to load manage

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Speaker 3: the season mics.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 2: No, Well, we just finished the NFL, which you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't sleep. I go back and actually watch the game.

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Speaker 2: So when we get on Fox Sports Radio, I can

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Speaker 2: say that I actually watched the game, as opposed to

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Speaker 2: just saying that guy stinks because the box score tells

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Speaker 2: to to. No, I wanted to see it for myself.

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Speaker 2: So now I've got a little more time. Right with

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Speaker 2: the NBA. At the All Star break, I got to

838
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Speaker 2: watch all of All Stars Saturday night. I had second

839
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Speaker 2: viewing experience with the tournament, the US versus Canada. That

840
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 2: was great. Some college basketball, the flap in Illinois, and

841
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 2: got to mention that here momentarily. But yeah, we got

842
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,439
Speaker 2: out to the movies. We went and saw the led

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00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 2: Zeppelin documentary that just came out very good goes through

844
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Speaker 2: the first two albums with some audio clips and responses

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Speaker 2: to such that you can tell these guys were just

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Speaker 2: kind of blindsided and they're emotional reactions. Either that or

847
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 2: they're all really good actors. And I didn't think John

848
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 2: Paul Jones or Jimmy Page was going to be an actor.

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Speaker 2: So they took care of business there. And I went

850
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Speaker 2: saw the new Marvel movie. So we're catching up on

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Speaker 2: our pop calls. Oh nice, and I'm hearing Brutalis. That's

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Speaker 2: an oscar. Yeah, I gotta see that. Flow is now streaming.

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Speaker 2: That was about an animated movie about a cat and

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Speaker 2: a flood. That was pretty good. So that's now like

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Speaker 2: a lot of stuff coming to streaming ahead of Awards season. Yeah,

856
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: so you can try to catch up before the NBA

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00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 2: picks back up in Ernest here Mark.

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Speaker 3: And then we'll also see if this is must see

859
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 3: TV or change the channel. How the All Star Game

860
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 3: is tonight and the new format with the tournament first

861
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 3: to forty young stars versus the.

862
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 2: Ogs shirt skins.

863
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, international stars versus the domestic ones. We'll see if.

864
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 2: Are you excited about it or is it just the

865
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 2: All right, let's Let's see what's next, because what would

866
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 2: incentivize these guys other than you know, this on paper

867
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 2: is great for if we're scripting a movie, right, which

868
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 2: is how the long winded way of getting to where

869
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 2: we were watching a lot of movies. So I'm trying

870
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 2: to go from plot points A and B and watching

871
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 2: stuff fall apart in the third act. Nobody can stick

872
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 2: the landing anymore. Great premise, great follow through here, and

873
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 2: I was like, wait, we only have twenty minutes of

874
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 2: screen time left. How do we fit? I don't know

875
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 2: how to land the plane? Will the NBA All Star

876
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 2: Game land the plane like? It sets up beautifully like

877
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 2: you laid it out? Ogs and rising stars, right, generations

878
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 2: collide international versus US. Great, we watched it on the stage.

879
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 2: They're booing the national anthem and then three fights in

880
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 2: nine seconds. Yeah, what do we get today? What kind

881
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 2: of fire do we.

882
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 3: I think we're gonna see a revitalization today. They're going

883
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 3: to land the plane. But this doesn't mean much. We

884
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 3: saw two disastrous All Star Games the last two years,

885
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 3: so it's going to be a net improvement. It's really

886
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,439
Speaker 3: going to be about what does All Star Weekend look

887
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 3: like next? Year add into it in our backyard because

888
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 3: I think what we'll see is it's going to be

889
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 3: successful tonight, and then they think, Okay, this is a

890
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 3: good format to keep moving forward. But the novelty is

891
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 3: going to wear off and then we're going to go

892
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 3: back to the same old nonsense we've talked about earlier.

893
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 3: We got to keep reinforcing it. It comes down to

894
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 3: whether the players care or not. And I'm saying this

895
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 3: as someone who is very mindful that it is good

896
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 3: for organizations to manage their players properly and not say,

897
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 3: you know what, play every single game just because but

898
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 3: All Star game. You don't got to play with full

899
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 3: playoff intensity to play every single minute. Just put on

900
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 3: an entertaining show. That's not hard to do. When it

901
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 3: comes to tempole events, you got to seize that moment.

902
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 3: An All Star is one of those moments.

903
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 2: Now, the format may may do some of this for us,

904
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 2: right because you're not playing necessarily the same minutes. So

905
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 2: like we take away the minutes part of the equation

906
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 2: as we get into a year after year, now we're

907
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 2: playing to a score and we go to that. But

908
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 2: just the idea of expanding rosters so guys don't have

909
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 2: to play heavy minutes. I know it dilutes the idea

910
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 2: of All Star, but how often do you talk about it? Wow,

911
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 2: he was a twenty time All Star. Yeah, like we

912
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 2: used to do that. It's kind of like a Pro Bowl,

913
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 2: like it's been diminished for those guys where that used

914
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 2: to be a really big deal because guys showed up.

915
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 2: That bonus meant something. It was a free vacation for

916
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 2: your family to Hawaii all these years, all of those things,

917
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 2: you know, thirty thousand or fifty thousand or whatever the

918
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 2: winning team got was a substant substantive enough amount of

919
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 2: money to where there was some juice to the game

920
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,760
Speaker 2: and an honor and you showed up and you played versus.

921
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 2: Now it's like, all right, I got named, I got

922
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 2: you know, eventually, I got to get a shoulder thing,

923
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 2: I haven't hung out with the kids as much or

924
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 2: whatever line. Whatever line, it is like, I'm out. So

925
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 2: we get to the second alternate, the third alternate, the fifth.

926
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 2: Like we actually had guys turning down the Pro Bowl

927
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 2: games this year, not that it's played the same way,

928
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 2: but for the Apples to Apples All Star Game comparisoncy

929
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 2: I get to use air quotes because that camera's on.

930
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 2: Is that the idea of it was so bad. The

931
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 2: guy's like, I don't belong there. I'm not going like,

932
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 2: like what are we even doing? But for the All

933
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 2: Star Games to now to just say, hey, you don't

934
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 2: have to carry a heavy load because we've got a

935
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 2: bigger roster and guys, forget about the snub part of

936
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 2: I don't care about that. But it's just more from

937
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 2: the can we get more buy in if guys don't

938
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 2: have to say how many I got to play thirty minutes?

939
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 2: Screw that. It's like if I can play fifteen and

940
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 2: hang out on the bench and have conversations and just

941
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 2: enjoy it, then maybe I'm more apt to buy in.

942
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and this new format is going to force some

943
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 3: of those established players to play more minutes because there's

944
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 3: now four teams, it's not two teams. And this does

945
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 3: give an opportunity for some of the end of the

946
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 3: bench players that don't really make an appearance to actually

947
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 3: have meaningful minutes. But again, regardless of how many games are,

948
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 3: what format it's going to be, it's got to be

949
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 3: about both the veteran and the young players setting the

950
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,919
Speaker 3: tone that they care about this game and they want

951
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 3: to put on a show, and putting on a show

952
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 3: is not having enough highlight reels to make on Instagram

953
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 3: or x or anything else.

954
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 2: I think Silver told me that was important.

955
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 3: Engagement.

956
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 2: That's all he wanted, was engagement. If I was in

957
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 2: a drinking game with the word engagement for his press

958
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: conference on the floor right now, yeah, I'd be there,

959
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 2: Like there's a streamer, like I do trading cards, and

960
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 2: we've talked about this a little bit off hair you

961
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 2: and I in you know, in a hobbyist and what

962
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 2: I'm doing like show prep. I'll have a guy streaming

963
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 2: in the background seeing what the new products look like

964
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 2: with the break hit you know, rates are or whatever.

965
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 2: And occasionally they've actually had guys trying to do those

966
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 2: marathons of a new release, and this week was the

967
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 2: flagship Tops Baseball product, Fell Asleep. He's in the middle

968
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 2: of a pack and like you just see the hands

969
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 2: start to goes like okay, next level goes viral. Probably

970
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 2: good for the business overall, but for himself, yeah, maybe

971
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 2: he can't do the twenty four hour stream anymore. But engagement, engagement,

972
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 2: that's what Adam Silver kept saying, so, yeah, I would

973
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 2: have been drooling with that guy.

974
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh man, I think I need to look at

975
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,280
Speaker 3: the number of times he actually said the word engagement

976
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 3: at that press conference, because it was a lot. Yeah,

977
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 3: I felt like beyond that at and the growth of

978
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 3: the game the internet, you know, the global game that.

979
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 2: Was a global is that? Is that going to become

980
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 2: the subtitle?

981
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 3: I think it will be the global global game.

982
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 2: You ain't got that NFL look at us unless you.

983
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 3: Didn't like the original slugan where amazing happens?

984
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 4: Right?

985
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 3: That should be that should that should be what it

986
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 3: is because that's about being in the moment, entertaining fans,

987
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 3: putting on a show.

988
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember what was it? The Clippers was

989
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 2: a great time out with the Clippers back in the

990
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 2: day for the NBA, like all the salesmanship over the years,

991
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 2: but it started before we began the discussion of the Hey,

992
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 2: it's boring, and that was Draymond Green gave us so

993
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 2: many gems, but that was one that cuts through the

994
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 2: clutter of talking about today's NBA game and where there

995
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 2: may be some challenges Adam Silver engagement global. Look, he's

996
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 2: there as a salesman, so we get it. Draymond comes

997
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 2: off as a guy at times doing everything you can

998
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 2: to try to kill the product. Again, going back to

999
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 2: the JJ Rednick comments and his feud with our guy

1000
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 2: Jason Smith last hour of you can't celebrate it for

1001
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 2: what it is. You just got, Jimmy Butler, You got

1002
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 2: some juice in your squad. People are a bit excited

1003
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 2: to see what the second half can become. Yet you

1004
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 2: talk about how boring the game is and I get it.

1005
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 2: Three point shooting. And this is where Wembin Yama, the

1006
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 2: young guy, is the sage going, look, if people learn

1007
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 2: how to defend it, we won't do it.

1008
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:42,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have a problem. And here's the thing

1009
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 3: that's very interesting with this state of the game analysis.

1010
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 3: I don't have a problem that it's more threes and

1011
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 3: it's more emphasized on how well player can shoot. There's

1012
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 3: a lot more skills required to adapt to today's NBA,

1013
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 3: but there should still be the competitive intensity. Even though

1014
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 3: there's more of an appreciation for cap management, load management,

1015
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 3: roster construction, fluidity with player contracts that makes it hard

1016
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:14,879
Speaker 3: to team build. Even through all those different circumstances, there's

1017
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 3: got to be the competitive intensity, and you see that

1018
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 3: in fairness to the top teams that win a championship,

1019
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 3: but you don't see that across the board, and I

1020
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,240
Speaker 3: think that as a result of that, that has made

1021
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 3: the NBA regular season feel less meaningful. Where you're talking

1022
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 3: about that huge moment of excitement with Luka Doncic's debut

1023
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 3: with the Lakers, no one can ever replicate debut moments.

1024
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 3: They're special for a reason because they only happen literally

1025
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 3: one time. But there isn't that day to day excitement

1026
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 3: for just the novelty of being at a game, being

1027
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 3: able to see a star player do something special. And

1028
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 3: that's got to be replicated, and it starts with the

1029
00:52:55,440 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 3: players and the organizations with I think having them understand

1030
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 3: and that you can always think long term and prioritize

1031
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 3: the playoffs in the long term, but that doesn't necessarily

1032
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 3: mean that you have to throw away the importance of

1033
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 3: every single game, because that's what helps build championship habits well.

1034
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 2: And that's the thing as we're trying to find that

1035
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 2: happy medium, right, I mean, look, John Paul Morose, he's

1036
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 2: going to join Steven Rich in a little while. As

1037
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 2: we get spring training underway from Major League Baseball, you

1038
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 2: had a third of the league didn't spend a dime

1039
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 2: in the off season for free agency. Yet everybody wants

1040
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 2: to complain when the Dodgers or other teams figure out

1041
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 2: a way to get someone to come in. Hey, well

1042
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 2: you'll get your money. It's all guaranteed. It's Major League Baseball,

1043
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 2: but it's deferred. Likewise in the NBA, we're talking about

1044
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 2: ahead of the trade deadlines, how many conversations did we

1045
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 2: have you and Jason and I with our guy Rick Buker,

1046
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 2: with Mark Stein, like and when we talked to you

1047
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 2: trying to understand these aprons and everything else put out

1048
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 2: like can this trade actually happen? Don't know. They have

1049
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 2: to put it to the league and maybe it gets accepted,

1050
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 2: maybe it doesn't. Right, like all of those kind of

1051
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 2: hurdles that have come in unnecessarily, and then you have

1052
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 2: multiple teams where it's like, you know, we're just gonna

1053
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 2: play for ping pong balls. Right. One of the products

1054
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 2: that came out this week again going owing to the

1055
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 2: collectibles market, has Cooper Flag autographs in it. So how

1056
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 2: many teams are Hey, I'm going for that guy? Yeah,

1057
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 2: so long before we even get to a trade deadline,

1058
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 2: we're done. Yeah, right, and it's clear that we're done,

1059
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 2: and we're trying to stack whatever we can to just

1060
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 2: be as bad as we can. So maybe the ping

1061
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 2: pong ball lands our way. I mean, it's just not

1062
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 2: healthy for a game.

1063
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 3: Yeah. And some of these things that we're talking about

1064
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 3: has to do with the labor deal and the NBA

1065
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 3: policy because one of the things I think has improved

1066
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 3: in recent years with the Plan Tournament, that has reduced

1067
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:59,280
Speaker 3: the amount of severe tanking, especially late in the season

1068
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 3: when clear the bad teams are just sitting their main

1069
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 3: guys out because they want to get a high draft

1070
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 3: pick for the player. For the teams that still quote

1071
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 3: unquote have a shot to make the Plans Tournament there,

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00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,320
Speaker 3: still they still are making win now moves. They're still competing.

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00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 3: But the second apron concerns I'm not a fan of

1074
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 3: because it has almost been like attacks and an excuse

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00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 3: for teams not to spend. And let me just break

1076
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 3: this down in Layman's terms, and I wrote it, yeah,

1077
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 3: and I made sure that I had these notes here.

1078
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 3: When you are past the second apron, it's not about

1079
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 3: an owner wanting to save money for money's sake. It

1080
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 3: is because it restricts them from making roster moves. So

1081
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 3: here's what happens when you're over the second apron. You

1082
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 3: can't sign a player with a mid level exception, you

1083
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 3: can't trade multiple players in a deal, you can't do

1084
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 3: a sign and trade, and you can't include cash in

1085
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 3: any deals. Those are a lot of parameters that restrict

1086
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 3: teams for making major moves. And the NBA agreed to

1087
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 3: this under the guise of we're trying to create competitive

1088
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 3: balance and parody in the league, and we've seen there

1089
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 3: hasn't been a defending champion since the Warriors in twenty

1090
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 3: seventeen twenty eighteen, so there is more parody. But here's

1091
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,280
Speaker 3: where I have a problem with this. These second apron

1092
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 3: calculations apply equally to all teams. It's not about penalizing

1093
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 3: teams that are trying to spend their way into free agency.

1094
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,760
Speaker 3: It's also penalizing teams from being able to retain players

1095
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 3: they drafted that are all a sudden are eligible for

1096
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,280
Speaker 3: more lucrative extensions. I thought the NBA wanted to reward

1097
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 3: teams that drafts smart and know how to tap into

1098
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 3: player development but when you're putting these kind of restrictions

1099
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 3: when they're eligible for extensions past the rookie deals, I

1100
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:50,439
Speaker 3: don't think this helps the league at all.

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00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 2: More restrictions, more problems, and really it's like going to

1102
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 2: an accountant. Yeah, I just need you to figure this

1103
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 2: out for me. Can this trade happen? Almost feel like

1104
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 2: gms have to put it through. What's our calculation? I

1105
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 2: don't know what do I have versus what you have?

1106
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,720
Speaker 2: And we have to figure it out. He's Mark Medina

1107
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 2: at Mark g Underscore Medina read him in a bevy

1108
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 2: of places here. I'm here all the time Fox Sports Radio,

1109
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 2: part of our extended team NBA Insider, located here right

1110
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 2: down the street here in Los Angeles. I'm Mike Carman

1111
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 2: at Swollen Doome. Hear me yelling at and with Jason

1112
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 2: Smith five nights a week, seven to eleven Pacific here

1113
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. As we continue, we obliquely referenced MVP

1114
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 2: conversations a little bit early. A lot of debate happened

1115
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 2: in the NFL. Still a lot of people really mad

1116
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 2: about the results in the NBA. Looks like it's a

1117
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 2: two horse race. We'll talk about it next year. On

1118
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 2: Fox and they were listed as day to day. But

1119
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:48,479
Speaker 2: as our friend Tom Looney used to say, then again,

1120
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 2: aren't we all welcome back? In Fox Sports Sunday, Fox

1121
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Mike Carman alongside Mike got Mark Medina at

1122
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 2: Mark g Underscore Medina, our mad voyage here on a

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00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 2: beautiful Fox Sports Sunday. Yes, football is in the rear

1124
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 2: view mirror. Plenty of stories still swirling about, but our

1125
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 2: focus today we're gonna stay in the NBA and college buckets.

1126
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 2: I'd be remiss if I didn't bring this up, going

1127
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 2: back to Illinois being me, you know, the big ten

1128
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 2: honk and apologist on the network. Although Rich Ornberger and

1129
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 2: LeVar Arrington get to help me carry that torch as well.

1130
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 2: With my north they actually played. I just went and

1131
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 2: spent a lot of money at Northwestern, But either way,

1132
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 2: I went to a lot of games. Terrence Shannon Junior

1133
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 2: getting his jersey retired by the Fighting A Line I

1134
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 2: yesterday and they had a countdown raucus like the Luca

1135
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 2: celebration that you were talking about. They've got Michigan stayed in.

1136
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 2: Tom Izzo looking to pass Bob Knight on the all

1137
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 2: time wins list. It's a big deal, goes to unferral

1138
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 2: the jersey. It's gonna roll down from the rafters. It's

1139
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 2: upside down, Mark, It's upside down. A lot of apologies

1140
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 2: more or less some statements from Brass saying heads will roll,

1141
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 2: But the reaction from the crowd and from the player himself,

1142
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 2: I'm getting my jersey retired, and this is what I

1143
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:16,919
Speaker 2: get embarrassing.

1144
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 3: How can anyone ever mess that kind of detail?

1145
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 2: Seems pretty basic.

1146
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 3: You would think that there's enough checks and balance. At

1147
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 3: least the jersey doesn't look right. Maybe we should fix.

1148
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 2: This, send it down once just to look. Look, it's

1149
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 2: all audio is nothing but a bunch of expletives. But

1150
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 2: it's it's on the radar. We're celebrating all things basketball,

1151
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 2: so we bring that in. Illinois would go on to

1152
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 2: miss their final nineteen shots in losing to Michigan State.

1153
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, so started terribly.

1154
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 2: Perhaps you could argue ended even worse. Now something we

1155
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 2: were talking about related, and this is where we can

1156
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 2: get some of that NFL fun In is how angry

1157
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 2: three people got about the MVP voting. Now, to me,

1158
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 2: it was far more nuanced than just hey, these guys

1159
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 2: voted for this guy for AP versus the MVP, and

1160
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 2: who flipped and why and why didn't Lamar win this

1161
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 2: when he got that and Josh Allen wins. Meanwhile, you

1162
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 2: got the offensive players over the years raising their hands,

1163
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 2: including Saquon Barkley this year, going why don't we even

1164
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 2: get considered? Like what if we're winning Offensive Player of

1165
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 2: the Year, what position are these guys playing? Yeah, all

1166
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 2: that being said, right now it is a two horse race.

1167
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 2: And I use that term with all love and respect

1168
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 2: for the sulky that Nicola Jokic likes to ride around

1169
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 2: in during his off season. Plenty of shots of him

1170
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 2: at his horse farm and riding around with MVP trophies,

1171
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 2: championship trophies, et cetera. Right now it is Shake Gildes,

1172
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 2: Alexander and Nicola Jokic and the field as of about

1173
01:00:55,960 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 2: twenty four hours ago, Gil just Alexander minus five p fifty,

1174
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 2: Nikola jokicch plus three point fifty next nearest competitor who

1175
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 2: is now hurt Janis and ten Kompo I had one

1176
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 2: hundred to one, one hundred to one mark. That's not

1177
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 2: good for the game either. Hey, these two guys, and

1178
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 2: there's all our other stars. Yeah.

1179
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Speaker 3: Now, I'll be transparent here because this happened pre Janni's injury.

1180
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 3: But you may know Tim Bontems from ESPN. He'll do

1181
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 3: a lot of check ins on MVP races by literally

1182
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 3: asking perspective voters who they're voting for. So my top

1183
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 3: five so far, but this was last week. It was

1184
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 3: in order Shay, Jannis Jokic, Jason Tatum, and Jason Smith.

1185
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 3: If you're listening for JJ, Reddick, Carl Anthony Towns in

1186
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 3: the New York next fifth. But I'm switching it now

1187
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 3: to Jokic. I was already on the fence. But I

1188
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 3: think there's also clear separation between Shaey Gotis, Alexander and

1189
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 3: Nikole Jokic because the Thunder they've.

1190
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 2: Been behind games ahead of him.

1191
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, first in the Western Conference. There's a lot of feeling.

1192
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 3: When I talked to some execs before the season, who's

1193
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 3: your MVP vote? Some of them scattered, some of them

1194
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 3: being through Luca in UH, but a lot of them

1195
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 3: said Shae because he has such a great UH skill

1196
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 3: set of being such a great lethal score at the

1197
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 3: basketing of the free throw line. Some of his so

1198
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 3: called weaknesses have been addressed with him being an improved shooter,

1199
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,919
Speaker 3: improved defender, but also he has such a complete team

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01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 3: around him. So a lot of voters, they don't just

1201
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 3: vote for who's the best player. They often equate, Okay,

1202
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 3: are you on a winning team, does your team have

1203
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 3: the best record? And all those things I think tie

1204
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 3: together that I think Shay is gonna run away with

1205
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 3: this and it's I don't think it's going to be close.

1206
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 2: Eight more wins than the Nuggets, nine fewer losses. Yoga

1207
01:02:56,520 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 2: celebrated his twenty fifth triple double of this sea the

1208
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 2: other night for Oklahoma City. What's been amazing is they

1209
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 2: had that run and Chad Holmgren is now played in

1210
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 2: thirteen games.

1211
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and one year. One thing I'll add, like one

1212
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 3: assistant coach that I talked to before the season, they

1213
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 3: cast their prediction that Jokic would win because they think

1214
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 3: it would really lean into on what the definition of

1215
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 3: an MVP should be. That when you look at the

1216
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 3: fact that there were issues with Aaron Gordon's injury and

1217
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 3: Jamal Murray's injury and them losing a lot of key

1218
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 3: roster depth, this even illustrates even more of the importance

1219
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 3: of having Nicole Jokich, So he thought some voters would

1220
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 3: keep that in mind, But I've all often seen over

1221
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 3: the years that they don't put that into consideration as

1222
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 3: much as they put into consideration if you're on a

1223
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 3: winning team, what's the win loss record as well as

1224
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 3: your own performance. And I think Shay obviously is a

1225
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 3: part of that, because not only has he been they

1226
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 3: don't say he's a complete player, but he's almost near it.

1227
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 3: But that team is nearly a complete team. You know,

1228
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 3: they have the so called an experience. They're not an

1229
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 3: elite rebounding team, but they have everything else. They're an

1230
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 3: elite defensive team. They have so many wings. You mentioned

1231
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 3: they have Chet Holmgren. They've been winning even without him. Yeah,

1232
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 3: but they came. They also have another good big and

1233
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 3: Isaiah Hartenstein. So presuming Check comes back, there's a feeling

1234
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 3: that they can go small, they can also go big.

1235
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 3: Even in today's NBA.

1236
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 2: See he wins an NBA title, My guy Smith on

1237
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 2: the Weeknights is gonna claim it because of Hartenstein. It's

1238
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 2: kind of like me when I celebrated White Sox Hall

1239
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 2: of famers Ken Griffy Junior and Tom sever They're.

1240
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 3: Part Hey, hey, j If Jason wants to take credit

1241
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 3: for it, he's also got to blame the Knicks for

1242
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 3: not retaining them, of course.

1243
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, well, I mean that's always the subplot of

1244
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 2: watching him. The camera's on now, so like if we

1245
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 2: just if you live stream and you just want to

1246
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 2: see a man in pain, watch guys that used to

1247
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 2: be on Smith led teams, like the teams he really

1248
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 2: stands for, watch them do well somewhere else, Like psychologically,

1249
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 2: it just absolutely destroy It's the Ralph Wigham. Since we

1250
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 2: just had Valentine's Day, Happy Valentine's Weekend for those that celebrated, Uh,

1251
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 2: whether it was celebrating yourself with something beautiful or if

1252
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 2: you've got someone in your life that you did, that's

1253
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 2: that's great too. But all of that said that you

1254
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 2: choose me episode where Bart does the frame by frame

1255
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 2: and says you can see his heartbreak there. Uh that

1256
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,919
Speaker 2: that's that's Smith watching him die, live and die. Uh.

1257
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 2: And I love that. I love to ride the lightning.

1258
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:31,439
Speaker 2: I've been very upfront with him, and we were talking

1259
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 2: about a little bit before the show that look, you're

1260
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 2: in this spot wherever you fit in our sports radio

1261
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 2: writing TV on some level you love sports. Now, there's

1262
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 2: always some some grifters out there that realized there was

1263
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 2: a buck to be made by being controversial, uh and

1264
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 2: spewing hot take nonsense. They have their space too because

1265
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 2: they helped move the needle for the rest of the conversations,

1266
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 2: there's no question about it. But otherwise, there was a player,

1267
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 2: there was a team. There was something that you know,

1268
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 2: left that indelible mark on your heart and psyche that

1269
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 2: stays with you. For me, it's the eighty three winning

1270
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 2: Ugly White Sox to the eighty five Bears and on like.

1271
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 2: Although my last title is two thousand and five with

1272
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 2: the White Sox. Because I notice I leave the Cubs

1273
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 2: out because I'm a Southsider. We don't we don't commemorate

1274
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 2: Cubs stuff.

1275
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 3: So you don't you'll consider Cubs fans to be real fans.

1276
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 2: No, they're fine, they're fine. It's the greatest outdoor bar

1277
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 2: in America. There you go. How's that? My pup? How's that?

1278
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 1: Was?

1279
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 2: I not nice? It's the best outdoor bar in America.

1280
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 2: Wrigley Field and what they've done in that neighborhood. Yeah,

1281
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 2: it got rid of the seven eleven and some of

1282
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 2: the dingy stuff, the old taco bell and stuff are going.

1283
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:40,919
Speaker 2: But it's a nice area to go, have a drink

1284
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 2: and hang out after a game.

1285
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 3: Well as it pertains to the next I know we

1286
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 3: love trolling Jason. I will build him up a little

1287
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 3: bit car onon in town. I got him in the

1288
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 3: top five or top five. He should feel comforted that

1289
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 3: that's been a better fit with Cat than how Julius

1290
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 3: Randall has been with Minnesota. I literally wrote a story

1291
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 3: for Linda, Yeah, I have it here before the season

1292
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 3: saying that Jalen Brunson has the opportunity, a legitimate chance

1293
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 3: to be the best all time Knicks player. Ever, as

1294
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 3: far as impact goes even over someone like Walt Frasier

1295
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 3: or Willis Reed Carmelo Anthony because he can win a championship.

1296
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 3: But right now we've seen them get blown up by

1297
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 3: the Selics. They don't have what it takes to get

1298
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:27,439
Speaker 3: past Cleveland or Boston in the playoffs. But you know what,

1299
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 3: they'll get to the second round.

1300
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 2: But that's the thing, right is we're going back to

1301
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 2: the same Tom Thibodeau script.

1302
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you.

1303
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 2: Don't have more than one guy that you trust off

1304
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 2: the bench, you're tripping over your tongue. Come the second

1305
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 2: round of the playoffs. To that end, we talk about

1306
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 2: veterans and trying to figure out what legacy and hope

1307
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 2: is and all of that. We referenced the Goat movie

1308
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 2: by Steph Curry, his production company that's gonna come out.

1309
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 2: They got the teaser, everybody releasing shoes and other things.

1310
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 2: Shake Gilders, Alexander Aja Wilson, I don't have time for

1311
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 2: the monologue about that, but somebody owes Caitlin Clark an

1312
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 2: apology and an awful lot of money based on the

1313
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 2: way she took the incoming when that shoe deal got

1314
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 2: announced last year. By the way, they now put up

1315
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 2: merch if you wanted a Caitlin Clark's shirt for what

1316
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 2: it's worth. But Steph Curry I also going into the

1317
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 2: Godfather right it's in his home city and all of

1318
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:27,799
Speaker 2: this stuff, and he's the host of this All Star weekend.

1319
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 2: But told Tim Kawakami, longtime Bay Area writer TV guy

1320
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 2: the San Francisco Standard, where he's at now, quote, I've

1321
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:39,600
Speaker 2: seen different scenarios, Like everybody talks about Kobe in his

1322
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 2: last year's from my vantage point on comparing it to

1323
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:45,680
Speaker 2: guys that only played for one franchise, Dirk, Tim Kobe

1324
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:47,600
Speaker 2: from our era. You don't want to be in a

1325
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 2: situation the Lakers were in those last three years with Kobe.

1326
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 2: I know he came off the Achilles injury, but it

1327
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 2: was like they were a lottery team, and it was

1328
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 2: more how many points Kobe could score down the stretch

1329
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 2: of his career. I don't want to be in that scenario.

1330
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 2: End quote. Now, some thought it was disrespectful to bring

1331
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 2: up Kobe. He was talking about Kobe the player, right,

1332
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 2: celebrating and commemorating those final years, which we all watched,

1333
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 2: and there were great moments we were on air during

1334
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 2: that sixty point night. I got no work from anybody

1335
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 2: here because a run around the Lakers jerseys and celebrating

1336
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:24,919
Speaker 2: them always like can we get that clip? Hey, stop dancing,

1337
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 2: I need a clip of that shot, so you know,

1338
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:32,639
Speaker 2: they've made for a fun night. But hey, I'll recreate

1339
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:33,600
Speaker 2: what the shot sounded like.

1340
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 3: For Yeah, I don't think it was disrespectful. I think

1341
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 3: he's talking about the circumstances. He doesn't want his final

1342
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 3: years to mirror that, and he shouldn't because those final

1343
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 3: years were tough for two reasons. The Lakers were in

1344
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 3: the lottery and Kobe was dealing with a lot of injuries.

1345
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 3: The obvious way for Steph to avoid that is he's

1346
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:52,800
Speaker 3: got to stay healthy, and so far he has been

1347
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 3: reasonably healthy. There were obviously a lot of concerns earlier

1348
01:09:56,600 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 3: in his career about his durability his ankles. It's to

1349
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 3: think about it at this time, but when he was

1350
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 3: given an extension, his first extension, it was considered a

1351
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 3: controversy on why would the Warriors commit No, that's true

1352
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 3: Steph given his injury concerns with his ankles, and it

1353
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:16,799
Speaker 3: became a huge discount. It also ironically gave him additional

1354
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 3: cap space in addition to the cap spike that the

1355
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 3: NBA had to get Kevin Durant. So I think his

1356
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:26,680
Speaker 3: larger point was he wanted to make sure that he's

1357
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 3: avoiding that part of having serious injuries and also be

1358
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 3: in a situation where the roster construction isn't conducive to winning.

1359
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 2: No, and that's it, right, and you bring in Jimmy

1360
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 2: Butler and we'll see what happens. Very short sample size,

1361
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 2: but three and one there's at least subjuice back in

1362
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 2: the building and you could see it for those forty

1363
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 2: eight minutes. Love him or hate him, Jimmy Butler short

1364
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 2: term is always a pretty good investment. Yeah, And I

1365
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 2: don't think he's a guy you hold long because it's

1366
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 2: gonna go sour. But short term, yeah, take the hit.

1367
01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:59,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't buy I remember talking to Draymond

1368
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 3: Green actually after Jimmy's introductory press conference in LA for

1369
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 3: a sports key to piece, and he was saying that

1370
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 3: they're gonna win the championship. He's gonna be looking forward

1371
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 3: to what the practice intensity is like in training camp

1372
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:18,600
Speaker 3: coming off the championship run. I don't buy that. But

1373
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 3: I think that this is a perfect alignment because both

1374
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 3: the team and the player were in a vulnerable spot.

1375
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler, because of concerns about his health and his antics,

1376
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 3: weren't seeing a lot of teams be willing to bid

1377
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 3: a lot for what Miami wanted out of him. And

1378
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 3: with the Warriors, they had seen that, even with Steph

1379
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 3: playing at an all Star caliber level and Draymond Green

1380
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:49,480
Speaker 3: being more available because of fewer injuries and fewer ejections

1381
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 3: and suspensions, that they were barely hanging on to being

1382
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:56,720
Speaker 3: playing team. That idea that the roster pieces that they

1383
01:11:56,760 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 3: got last offseason offset Klay Thompson's departure sure would make

1384
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:04,720
Speaker 3: them a contender was fool's gold. So they decided they

1385
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 3: have to make a move that gives them a shot

1386
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 3: in the arm without mortgaging the future. They still have

1387
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:14,680
Speaker 3: Jonathan Kaminga, Moses Moody and Tray Sjackson Davis, Brandon Potzebski,

1388
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 3: all those young players. They still have two first round picks.

1389
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 3: They found that sweet spot that makes them a better team.

1390
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:22,640
Speaker 3: But I don't think it's going to make them a

1391
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 3: championship contenter, but at least makes them a playoff contender.

1392
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 2: At least makes them interesting. And that's what we need.

1393
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 2: More teams that we at least pay attention to. And

1394
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 2: maybe you can pick make a long shot bet. Maybe

1395
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 2: you will do that. I will not, and I don't

1396
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 2: think Moncey will. Let's go over to the news desk

1397
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 2: and our friend Moncy Belanos joins us here with everything

1398
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 2: shaken in our sporting universe.

1399
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, Daytona five hundred is about to start on Fox TV.

1400
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 5: Fellas President Trump is at Daytona five hundred. They showed

1401
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 5: him so he's about to enjoy that race. The NBA

1402
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 5: Alsar festivities wrap up today with the All Star Game.

1403
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,480
Speaker 5: As you guys have been talking about a new fourteen.

1404
01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:58,759
Speaker 2: Format, so three games.

1405
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:00,599
Speaker 5: The first one tips off at eight to the eastern

1406
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 5: right now in men's college shops, with about nine minutes

1407
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 5: to go. Number fourteen Memphis has taken the lead from

1408
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 5: Wichita State. They're on top fifty three to forty nine

1409
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:09,760
Speaker 5: with about seven minutes to go in the first half.

1410
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:10,600
Speaker 2: Ohio State is.

1411
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 5: Beating number twenty Michigan twenty nine to twenty eight. On

1412
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 5: the ladies' side, Yukon is playing seventh ranked Yukon and

1413
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 5: they are on top of number four South Carolina thirty

1414
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 5: nine to twenty three with about three minutes to go

1415
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,719
Speaker 5: in the second quarter. And in the NFL seven additional

1416
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 5: massage therapists have accused Ravens kicker Justin Tucker of inappropriate

1417
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 5: sexual behavior, bringing the total to sixteen women at eight

1418
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 5: Baltimore area spause. This is according to the Baltimore Banner.

1419
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 2: Back to you guys, thanks so much, MONSI here Mansei

1420
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 2: throughout the day here Fox Sports Radio here at Saturdays

1421
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 2: alongside Steve Hartman as they get really rev you through

1422
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 2: the college buckets Saturdays. As we're rolling through coming out

1423
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 2: of the NFL season, he's Mark Medina and Mike Carmen.

1424
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 2: As we continue, Kevin Durant set the bar for how

1425
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 2: early you should set expectation for your life goals, and

1426
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 2: I'm a little sad because I'm far behind. We'll talk

1427
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 2: about it next year on Fox. Hey, welcome back, and

1428
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 2: we're finishing up here Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio,

1429
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 2: Mike Carmon, Mark Medino with you coming up in about

1430
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,719
Speaker 2: ten minutes from now. You've got Steve Hartman, Rich Ornberger

1431
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 2: taking you through the day with the team, Chris and

1432
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:18,839
Speaker 2: Shay and and Monsey. Thanks to them for everything they're

1433
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:21,599
Speaker 2: doing on the day. Be remiss. We didn't acknowledge it.

1434
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 2: Ukon putting a hurting on South Carolina. It's forty five

1435
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 2: twenty three in a South Carolina home game. Wow, Gino

1436
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 2: Rima must have heard some of the criticisms Jason Smith

1437
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 2: and I were laying on him earlier this week. So

1438
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 2: he's become more of a SoundBite than a winner post game?

1439
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:42,879
Speaker 3: Will we get a Jason Smith's SoundBite?

1440
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 2: He might want to fight gat Yeah, he might he

1441
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 2: might jump into Danny Hurley eventually is coming for us.

1442
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:51,679
Speaker 2: I mean it's look, we only go after winners.

1443
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:56,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, every single head coach needs to give Jason Smith

1444
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 3: a bad shout out post game.

1445
01:14:58,000 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 2: Well and generally if they come on the show if

1446
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 2: the doing really well, he's a jinx. So you don't

1447
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 2: want to come on our show. It's it's the worst. Hey,

1448
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 2: he's number one, welcome in coach. They go out and

1449
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 2: lose by twenty their next game. It's what he does.

1450
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 2: He's that guy, all right. So earlier this weekend, lots

1451
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 2: of press availability and and what guys are planning to

1452
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 2: do All Star Game later on today. Jared Jackson, the

1453
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 2: guy you wrote a piece on at Mark g under

1454
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 2: Underscore Medina is where you find him on Twitter. You

1455
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 2: can read it, see all the links to this stuff.

1456
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 2: He was asked, we're talking about competitiveness. We want to

1457
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 2: see guys with fire in the belly, and his was

1458
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:45,719
Speaker 2: his response to Taylor Rooks. I lost it four ft.

1459
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:49,599
Speaker 2: I'm gonna slap the floor and work. It's great. It's great.

1460
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 4: Just way you guys are gonna laugh, you guys a

1461
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 4: gonna laugh, it's pretty great.

1462
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 2: It's pretty great. That was not great when I just

1463
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:55,879
Speaker 2: did know what you did was amazing.

1464
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,599
Speaker 4: But this is my fault right here. I refreshed Twitter

1465
01:15:58,640 --> 01:15:59,800
Speaker 4: for some reason and now it's gone.

1466
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 2: It's not coming up.

1467
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 4: Basically, he said that he's going full he's going full court,

1468
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:06,799
Speaker 4: he's going to defend, and he's going full time. He's

1469
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 4: not putting anything outside of the court, and he wants

1470
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 4: to basically play like he's gonna play in a normal game.

1471
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 4: He's he's playing full defense. And yeah, that was really

1472
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 4: well done.

1473
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 2: Now your vocal impression of Jared I try, I try winning,

1474
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 2: Kelly Endo has nothing on you. Let's just set a

1475
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 2: different tone, is what he had to say.

1476
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm waiting to see with everything here with this

1477
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 3: All Star Game. But I'm not surprised that someone like

1478
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:33,640
Speaker 3: Jared Jackson Junior would say that because he is a

1479
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 3: competitive player. So the mention that you were saying, how

1480
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 3: I talked with him earlier this week. Yeah, for a

1481
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 3: piece for Athlon Sports doing a thing about his season's

1482
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 3: second All Star appearance. He's the main reason why the

1483
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 3: Grizzlies are in second place in the West. We can

1484
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 3: talk about, Yeah, John Moran's healthy, but he really set

1485
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 3: a tone for how they are defensively and also getting

1486
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 3: everyone to have better offseason regiments. In one way this

1487
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:02,799
Speaker 3: crystallized it was that he was having a summer trip

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Speaker 3: in Tokyo this past summer and he flew to Desmond

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Speaker 3: Bains House in Texas. Right he lands at three in

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Speaker 3: the morning after flying from Tokyo and getting settled at

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Speaker 3: Desmond Bains House in Texas, and they do an early

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Speaker 3: morning workout even with the fifteen hour flight the jet lag. So, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Jaron Jackson's the real deal, great defensive player. Victor Wan

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Speaker 3: Binyama is gonna win DPO Y even though you know

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Speaker 3: Jared Jackson's doing a lot and it means a lot

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Speaker 3: for him to win that award potentially, But it's not

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Speaker 3: surprising that he would feed into that we're going to

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Speaker 3: take the All Star Game seriously.

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Speaker 2: Well, when you joined Smith and I later on this week,

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Speaker 2: and if we're back for an extended period, we got

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Speaker 2: to go into those second and third bananas give him.

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Speaker 2: Since we're talking All Stars, we're talking the heroes of

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Speaker 2: the day. We got to talk about those guys that

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Speaker 2: make these teams work, and Jared Jackson one of those guys.

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Speaker 2: That certainly does. But speaking of work, I don't know

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Speaker 2: when you decided you wanted to do sports writing, little television,

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Speaker 2: some radio, all of those things. For me, it was

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Speaker 2: something I wanted to do in high school, but you know,

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Speaker 2: maybe didn't find the support and didn't have the guts

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Speaker 2: to go down that road. Blue collar history, Southside Chicago,

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Speaker 2: Kevin Durant. We'll get your answer second. But Kevin Durant

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Speaker 2: best at all of us in his response being asked

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Speaker 2: about that All Star weekend.

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Speaker 3: Katie ads, would you get your twelve year old self?

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Speaker 2: Felt like I was pretty locked in at twelve, man.

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Speaker 2: I ain ain't gonna lie to you, man, So there

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Speaker 2: you go, he was pretty locked in. So for you,

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Speaker 2: when was that moment of clarity or have you had

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Speaker 2: it yet?

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Speaker 3: Well, how about this, Kevin Durant knew he was going

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Speaker 3: to be a really special NBA player at age twelve.

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Speaker 3: By age twelve, I already knew I wasn't going to

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Speaker 3: be a special Okay, good good. I already knew I

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Speaker 3: was terrible at basketball. So in a way, around the

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Speaker 3: same time, it crystallized I would love to get involved

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Speaker 3: with sports in this field. But much different conversation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's a long, wonderful road here. Sunday's my

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Speaker 2: life blood here Fox Sports Radio. A lot of yelling

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Speaker 2: and contesting debates all these years at Swowan Dome, at

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Speaker 2: Mark G Underscore Medina. Hopefully we passed the audition. I

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Speaker 2: feel like the Beatles on the rooftop from nineteen sixty

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Speaker 2: nine Again, read Mark all over the place. You'll hear

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Speaker 2: him with us on Fox Sports Radio. Steve and Rich

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Speaker 2: coming up. Thanks to Chris, Shay and Monty. Talk to

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Speaker 2: you later.