1 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: I want to give a special Housewive shout out to 2 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: Sonya Morgan. I just think she understands the assignment. I 3 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: saw her in the trailer for Crappy Lake. She understands 4 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: the assignment. She understands who she is, she understands what 5 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: they want, and a certain group relates to her, and 6 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: I just like her, like I like her essence. She's nuts, 7 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: she's batshit, but she leans into it and she owns it, 8 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 1: and I like it and I like her just being like, of. 9 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 2: Course I'm going on the Ultimate Girls Trip. Of course 10 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 2: I am. 11 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: I want the experience, I want the exposure. I like 12 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: the free trips. I like my side hustles. I like 13 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: making some money and I got bills to pay and 14 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: I'm a single mom and I'm going and I'm making 15 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: the most of it own back pictures and I'm grateful 16 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: and lucky to have this gig. And I'm not overplaying 17 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: my hand and I'm not over negotiating, and like, I 18 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: don't know, I just like the way she handles herself 19 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: for the long haul in this space. 20 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: That's what I have to say. 21 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: She's getting my Housewives shout out today. Oh this is 22 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: good tea let's do this as good tea. Okay, So 23 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: I guess Andy wrote in his book that I did 24 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: a TikTok about the Real Housewives, Ultimate Girls Trip and 25 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: Legacy and that it was sort of boring, which I 26 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 1: did think it was boring, and they ended up canceling 27 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: the Legacy cast, so it must be somewhat boring because 28 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: it wasn't exciting enough for them to air it. And 29 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: it was just a bizarre like two for one announcement, 30 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: which is weird, and it's marketing one on one. You 31 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: don't announce two things at the same time unless you're 32 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: like doing an industry announcement, like for the Trades. It's 33 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: just bizarre. It's like not great marketing. We're like, wait, 34 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: are were looking over here? We're looking over there. That 35 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: it was a boring announcement doesn't mean I don't think 36 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: both shows would be interesting. I just thought it was 37 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: a boring announcement. So he talked about the Legacy and 38 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: I said, hit me with your best shot, because there 39 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: is always a number. There's a number for me to 40 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: go for a week on an Ultimate Girls ship, but 41 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: they don't have that number and they won't pay that number, 42 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: and it's sort of just like a dance that I do. 43 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: I don't even think there was I mean, there's always 44 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: a number, but they don't got it. I'm happy for 45 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: Sonya and like Drinda and the girls. But by the way, 46 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: everybody trashes me after the fact. Ramona was on Jeff 47 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: Lewis and he was like, oh, who would you want? 48 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: He mentioned a bunch of people men, and then he 49 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: was Beth and you've met. I have ten texts for Mamona. 50 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: Hey would you do a podcast with us? Hey, if 51 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: you're looking for someone to do your podcast, Hey, can 52 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: I get business events? Avery texting me, Avery inviting me? Like, 53 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: stop texting me asking me for favors out of one 54 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: side of your mouth when on the other side of 55 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: your mouth you're gonna go on Jeff Lewis and say 56 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: meh or he is the housewife you fucking know on 57 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: the goat you've always begged me to go back to 58 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: take a fucking seat. Okay, take a fucking seat. But Andy, 59 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: of course, on his platform, decides to write about me 60 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: and talk about me on his show and ask people 61 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,119 Speaker 1: polarizing questions that are provocative and want them to say 62 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: bad things about me. But I can't say something on 63 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: a TikTok like no, I'm out of the Housewives, Andy. 64 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: You don't get to ask me those paracative questions unless 65 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: I'm hawking a book on your show that will get 66 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: high ratings and also sell books for me. So it's 67 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: a dance. So it's a two way street. I'm not 68 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: part of the Housewives cult anymore. I'm not hooking, spreading 69 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: my legs, taking the money, and I'm not. 70 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: Part of it anymore. 71 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm gonna do a TikTok about it, just 72 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: like you're gonna talk about it on radio Andy in 73 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: your five books on your show click bait, ask a 74 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: provocative question disguised as if you were questioned vetted by 75 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: the producer. Question, So, don't fucking poke a bear in 76 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: the zoo. Don't fucking poke a bear in the zoo? 77 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 2: WHOA. 78 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: I just watched the oc Tamera comeback. 79 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: So you know. 80 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: The one thing about Tamra I'll say is she prepares 81 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: for a role, like she realizes that this is a 82 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: genre that can get stale and expired. And I just 83 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: remember so many different seasons of Tamra, like becoming a bodybuilder, 84 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: like a serious competitive bodybuilder, becoming very very religious, opening 85 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: a gym like big big sweeping strokes from Tamra. And 86 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: then now she got a motorcycle license, which is it's 87 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: something new. 88 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: We haven't seen that. 89 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: It's it's so dangerous and I'm sure people are going 90 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: to go crazy at her, and she'll probably have a 91 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: bunch of statistics about how it's not just it scares 92 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: the shit out of me as a parent, Like I 93 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: guess if you're young and I don't know, then you 94 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: have parents, it's scary too. I just find a motorcycle 95 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 1: to be extremely unnecessarily risky. It's not even about you, 96 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: it's about others. You're so exposed. It seems like it's 97 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: for the dramatic effect, which works, but it scares the 98 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: shit out of me, Like I, I'm uncomfortable watching that. 99 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: But I get it from her preparing for a role 100 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: and from a financial perspective doing the Housewives and irrelevance perspective, 101 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: doing the Housewives is a way to stay. 102 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 2: Fresh and in the zeitgeist. 103 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: And you know, especially as we get older, it's not 104 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: easy for women to find relevance. And it's a great 105 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's a great storyline be like I got 106 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: a motorcycle license. It's really smart, but scary to me. 107 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: Tamra the Tea is back, and you know she probably 108 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: she was let go. She probably feels the pressure that 109 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: I can relate to to come back and like she 110 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 1: has to make things happen. She wants to be like 111 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: a bad ass because she's always been unafraid of drama 112 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: and screaming and a lot of things that get highlighted 113 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: on her former reunions or her screaming at the reunions. 114 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 2: The truth is so that. 115 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: The the trailer with her looks a little aggressive and 116 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: like she's a little hostile or angry or stressed out. 117 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: I get that. Who knows what she's going through. 118 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: We'll find out, because sometimes you're going through something and 119 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: you know you don't have a lot of patience and 120 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: it's hard to keep it together when you're filming. It's 121 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: something that you'd think, like, why would you act like that. 122 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: It's just the way that it goes on this show, 123 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: Like the game starts moving fast, and if you had 124 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: send me to drink, or there are cameras on or 125 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: the pressure or the pressure of her feeling like she 126 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: has to make a comeback and do something outlandish or 127 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: the pressure of fame now because there are so many 128 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: other housewives and ratings are different than they used to be. 129 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: There's just so many different things. But the one thing, 130 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: having been away from this for so long now that 131 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: jumped off the page is the stress and as we 132 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: get older, do we need this level of stress and 133 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: how it affects our health and our nervous system. I 134 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: know it's gonna sound crazy, but after you get activated, 135 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: and I get activated in my life, like I just 136 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: launched a YouTube series that and I've been doing press 137 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: on Kelly and Mark and the Today Show, and I 138 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: get activated when I'm filming something nothing compared to when 139 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: I was doing The Housewives, because it was just pure 140 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: toxicity and like concentrated toxins and not for something that 141 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: you actually care about in your real life, Like it's 142 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: manufactured drama. And what I mean by that is if 143 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: Tamra in her normal life, I know she has a 144 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: daughter that either didn't speak to her for a while, 145 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: or you know, a divorce from Simon or he was 146 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: they were going through financial things or stuff like that, 147 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: or stuff with their son or son getting married. That's 148 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: real stress in your life. Like that's real stress that 149 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: can cause you major stress. My health issues have caused 150 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: me major stress, stuff going on in my divorce, major 151 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: stress in my life. The stress that the show creates 152 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: from arguments with other people, and then that argument perpetuates 153 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: another scene, and it perpetuates you talking about it off camera. 154 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: Then someone talks a bad about you in the media 155 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: or a quote gets picked up out of context or 156 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: in context. 157 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: You have to live that. 158 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: That's a whole area of stress that you're volunteering for. 159 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: You're on the Housewives, and this whole other bucket of 160 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: stress you have raised your hand and gotten paid for. 161 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: Like you're gonna pay me to endure unnecessary stress. Stress 162 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: It doesn't come with my normal life. So I'm gonna 163 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: go on a reunion and like fight six people that 164 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 1: might hate me at that time and spend hours in 165 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: a day, and you recover for days from reunion. Like 166 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: it is so activating, it is so depleting, And the 167 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: one thing that anyone who's been on a reunion can 168 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: relate to is they know it affects their nervous system, 169 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: Like all your dopamine or staff everything is like high. 170 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 2: It's like it happened to me. 171 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: When I was recovering from a phish incident where I 172 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: was on adrenaline and your adrenaline literally keeps you high 173 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: for days. It shocks your body, it depletes you. I've 174 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: said before, people go on anti anxiety medication on the Housewives, 175 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: people go on anti depressants. So you're electing to do 176 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: something in your career and in your personal life that 177 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: is not something that comes with your normal path of life, 178 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: your normal parental stressors, and or not even your normal 179 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: work stresses, because I've done both. I run a really successful, 180 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: intense business and I've been on the Housewives for years, 181 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: and i know the difference. So you've elected for money 182 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: and relevance to endure a pocket of your life that 183 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: it's terrible for you and not And no matter how 184 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: many wrinkles you get in facelifts you get, and botox 185 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: you get, and massages you get, an anti anxiety medication 186 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: you take, and cocktails you drink to calm down, it's 187 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: just it's taking years off your life. And I remember 188 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: being going through a C section and them saying your 189 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: body won't recover for like six months to a year, 190 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: and you have numbness forever. I still have numbness in 191 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: this one that one area now, but not for months 192 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 1: and months and months do you really like recover your 193 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: body finally sort of starts to recover. I went through 194 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: a terrible, terrible, horrendous divorce that had like things that 195 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: happened to me that I still like shudder at. Like 196 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: you just you have just reflexes in your body about 197 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: things that happened during that time. Those are things that 198 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: are that came with my life. Not until you leave 199 00:10:55,880 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: the Housewives. It takes years for you to recover realize 200 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: what normalcy feels like, because you leave and you're like 201 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 1: thinking about it and wondering what's going on, and you're 202 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: still shell shocked and like you still think it's sort 203 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: of normal and you don't really and you have to 204 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: rinse it from your system. Go ask youolan to go 205 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: ask Denise, Go ask Lisa. We're gonna go ask anyone, 206 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: go ask Vicky. You have to rinse it from your system. 207 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: And maybe some people may think they want that hit 208 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: and then go back and they realize, oh my god. 209 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: And that's why when I've said it would be such 210 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: a number to go back, I can't imagine what that 211 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 1: number would because it's a number to elect to have 212 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: toxins and things like that in your life. And the 213 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: first season back, like maybe the tamer season back now 214 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: it feels stressful, but it's sort of like you're on 215 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: a high. It takes a couple of seasons to like 216 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: for really like to absorb into your pores and really 217 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: be really damaging, like on a cellular level. So the 218 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: one thing that I really really took away from watching 219 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 1: the trailer was that's something that Tamar has gone back 220 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: and been paid to and elected to do. The show 221 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: probably had a decline in ratings, and she gives it 222 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 1: a little jolt, and she probably has fans that Wanner 223 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: back and she did probably an Ultimate Girls trip And 224 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 1: it's a price. You are making a deal with the devil, 225 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: because I just can't imagine the number for me to 226 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: go back and feel that way. It's disgusting. And I 227 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: talked recently about Andy Cohen saying what he said in 228 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: his book about me talking about the Bravo announcement for 229 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: Real Housewives Legacy and the new cast and how he 230 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: was I said, hit me with your best shot with 231 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: a number, because he said to any interest, and then 232 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: he didn't like that, and he wrote about in his book, 233 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: and you know that whole sphere. If you go and 234 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: watch it up and slive, you're raising your hand to say, 235 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: I know I'm coming on a gotcha show. 236 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 2: I know I'm going to have to live a couple of. 237 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: Weeks of getting hit in the press and beaten up. 238 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 1: But it's for the greater good of Andy's ratings, and 239 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: it means I'm going to get ratings too. It means 240 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: whatever I'm doing is gonna get promotion too. And that's 241 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 1: fine for everyone because we know the deal and the game. 242 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: So don't hate the player, hate the game. Tamra knows. 243 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: She went back onto the battlefield. She's a great housewife. 244 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: She's entertaining, she's humorous, she plays the game. She will 245 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: come in with a big storyline like riding a motorcycle, 246 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: and I'm the money is probably great and the relevance, 247 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: and she has a successful podcast that it will build, 248 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: and I get all of it. This is honestly no shade. 249 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: It's just the fact of the matter is it's toxic 250 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: and it's unhealthy, and so what will we do for 251 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: fame and relevance and money. And there was somebody that 252 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: was recently on my podcast that was saying, sometimes I 253 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: feel guilty that I watch this because you know, these 254 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: are real people and it's women really fighting with each other, 255 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: which is why certain people won't watch. So it's just 256 00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: a conversation about I think. But at the same time, 257 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: people watch The Housewives and lose sight of the fact 258 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: that they're real people like that this is really happening, 259 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: and these are real arguments. Yes, under fake circumstances because 260 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: these may not be normal friends, but they're real arguments. 261 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: It's real stress, and it's elective. It's elective toxin, it's 262 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: elective stress. So in no area of our life do 263 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: we go for Nobody who's on The Housewives is not 264 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: very stressed out about it at some point.