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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Getty and He Armstrong and Getty Strong and.

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Speaker 3: I have a handful of stories that are centered around

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Speaker 3: the same theme, all of which have come out just

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Speaker 3: in the last day or two, all of which are

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Speaker 3: being covered in major publications, and quite responsibly. Number one

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Speaker 3: India's I'm Sorry Inside Syria's Secretarian Cauldron, kidnapping, Trigger's cascade

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Speaker 3: of violence, Blood Soaked Weak between Sunni Bedouins, Sunni Muslims

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Speaker 3: and the Druze minority in southern Syria slaughtering the hell

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Speaker 3: out of the Drews because of their religion and their tribe,

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Speaker 3: et cetera. Isn't sectarian politics? Grant and the Drus are?

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Speaker 3: Are they Christian adjacent? I forget I read this letter there.

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Speaker 3: They're like an Abrahamic religion or beliefs. All of the

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Speaker 3: prophets are cool, and trust me, I'm not a Druz theologian,

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Speaker 3: but it's kind of a universal Abrahamis religion anyway, and

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Speaker 3: it's absolutely horrifying. These are not that it matters, but

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Speaker 3: you look at these people. They are thoroughly modern, normal

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Speaker 3: people living their lives, hoping to get a career, going

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Speaker 3: raise their children, blah blah blah. And they have armed

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Speaker 3: gunmen storming their houses and shooting them all dead in

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Speaker 3: the streets because of their religion. Moving along, it's an

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Speaker 3: interest interesting story from Texas, of all places, Epic City

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Speaker 3: replacing Old Glory with the Crescent Moon picture. This a

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Speaker 3: Muslim only city governed by Sharia law, beyond the reach

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Speaker 3: of democratically elected officials. Officials, something like that is happening

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Speaker 3: in Texas, and its founders call it Epic City.

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Speaker 2: The East Plano Islamic Center.

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Speaker 3: EPIC is the largest mosque in Texas and one of

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Speaker 3: the largest in the US. Last year, several members of

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Speaker 3: the mosque formed Community Capital Partners LLC or CCP and

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Speaker 3: announced the formation of Epic City, a master planned Islamic

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Speaker 3: development project that caters to the evolving needs of families

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Speaker 3: in the Muslim communities. And again, we could get into

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Speaker 3: this idea in depth in what is wrong with it,

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Speaker 3: but I don't really have time. Josh Hawley's called for

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Speaker 3: US the US to condemn the persecution of Christians in

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Speaker 3: Muslim majority nations, including several that were kind of friendly

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Speaker 3: with these days. But whether it's Africa or the Middle East, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: there's wholesale persecution of Christians going on, frequently, slaughtering them

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Speaker 3: by machine gun fire or machete And Hawley, is he grandstanding?

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Speaker 2: He often is? Or is he sincere about this? I

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Speaker 2: don't know how weird is it that the US doesn't

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Speaker 2: condemn that?

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Speaker 4: Oh right, If my main thing politically is standing up

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Speaker 4: for Christianity around the world, I think those are better

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Speaker 4: stories to latch onto than putin trying to help Christianity

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Speaker 4: out by taking over Ukraine or something or something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The resolutions that are co sponsored with several other Republicans

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Speaker 3: urge the President to prioritize the defense of persecuted Christians

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Speaker 3: in America's foreign policy, including via diplomatic engagement with Muslim

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Speaker 3: majority countries as well as efforts to stabilize the Middle East.

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Speaker 3: Urges the President to leverage the diplomatic tool kit to

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Speaker 3: advance the protection of persecuted Christians worldwide and within Muslim

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Speaker 3: majority countries. So I certainly applaud that effort, and all

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Speaker 3: of those headlines bring us to this, and it's a

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Speaker 3: piece I came Across by Paul Freesen. Paul is with

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Speaker 3: Cornell University. He is one of the scholars with the

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Speaker 3: let Me Get This Right the Center for Global Democracy

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Speaker 3: in the Brooks School of Public Policy at Cornell. Didn't

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Speaker 3: really know his work, but I found this to be

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Speaker 2: He talks.

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Speaker 3: He starts this article talking about the Maldives, which is

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Speaker 3: a chain of islands by not far from Africa. I think,

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Speaker 3: I actually, I didn't even look it up on a map.

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Speaker 3: But they're idyllic, beautiful. It's infinity pools, bioluminescent beaches, you

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Speaker 2: Just like this.

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Speaker 3: And he writes, I few imagine that this archipelago of

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Speaker 3: honeymoon bruchers and influencer backdrops is governed by a constitutionally

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Speaker 3: mandated Sunni monoculture where apostasy, that is, rejecting Islam is.

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Speaker 2: Punishable by death.

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Speaker 3: Wow, and children are catechies, not in the arts of

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Speaker 3: critical thought, but in the compulsory admiration of Rhea and

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Speaker 3: all non Muslim religious practice, no matter how discreet, or

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Speaker 3: Jesus Christ in your living room alone in the Maldives,

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Speaker 3: no temples, no tolerance. This is a theocracy with a

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Speaker 3: customer service department. And he says here the word Islamic

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Speaker 3: republic does not mean Muslim majority democracy means what it

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Speaker 3: in every grade, every year, et cetera, et cetera. Oh,

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Speaker 3: any descent, whether whispered by a secular blogger or typed

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Speaker 3: by an ex Muslim on Twitter, can earn you one

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Speaker 3: hundred lashes twenty years or a cemetery plot Welcome to Paradise.

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Speaker 3: And then he says this is not uniquely Maldivian or

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Speaker 3: even uniquely Islamic. What's on display here is the metastasis

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Speaker 3: of a broader pathology, the suicide of liberalism through the

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Speaker 3: travenous drip of unchecked pluralism. Right, there are a lotisms,

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Speaker 3: They're all explained, but this is the point of what

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Speaker 3: is a bellweather, a warning of what happens when civilizations

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Speaker 3: that once separated church from state begin importing ideologies that

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Speaker 3: merge the two. Like Siamese twins sharing a judicial spine.

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Speaker 3: This is not a clash of cultures. It is a

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Speaker 3: conquest by bureaucracy, and we are funding it for the

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Speaker 3: umpteenth time. Read Michael Halibec's submission novel came out a

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Speaker 3: few years ago, about how it's an imagination of how

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Speaker 3: Trump Trump I'm reading while I'm talking, how France becomes

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Speaker 3: an entirely Muslim country and freedom of speech and religion

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Speaker 2: And pretty plausible when you read it. Oh that's the thing.

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Speaker 3: Would you how would you describe how the takeover goes?

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Speaker 2: How it works in that novel?

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Speaker 3: Uh, little by little with a lot of decent people

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Speaker 3: not wanting to come off as racist or Islamo and

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Speaker 3: then just over time losing and as mister Friesan points out,

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Speaker 3: like through bureaucracy, bit by bit, through the tentacles of government.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, here's his main point.

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Speaker 3: And this is the part that I said, I found

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Speaker 3: It was Carl Popper, he writes, who warned that a

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Speaker 3: tolerant society must be intolerant of intolerance or it would

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Speaker 3: cease to be tolerant at all. Obviously, that's where it's

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Speaker 3: the way we're always mocking the coexist bumper sticker. Coexist, coexists.

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Speaker 4: A couple of those symbols on there want to dominate

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Speaker 4: the other symbols, so you can't coexist with somebody who

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Speaker 3: A tolerant society must be intolerant of intolerance or it

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Speaker 3: of any other modern movements that punished you even agreeing

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Speaker 3: allowed to question it anyway. He goes on, it's a

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Speaker 3: delicious paradox, too often quoted and too rarely heated, for

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Speaker 3: we have taken the first half of the dictum the

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Speaker 3: imperative to tolerate, and chiseled it into law. Into policy,

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Speaker 3: into university mission statements and and geo pamphlets. But the

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Speaker 3: second half, the requirement to draw a line to say

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Speaker 3: and teak and anathema unfashionable. The paradox has become pathology.

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Speaker 3: Here's what he means. Our courts allow Sharia arbitration councils

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Speaker 3: to function in British cities. He's a brit obviously adjudicating

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Speaker 3: matters of family and inheritance with standards that would make

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Speaker 3: a twelfth century canon lawyer flinch. Our schools include faith

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Speaker 3: based curricula that require jobs for seven year olds and

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Speaker 3: teach that homosexuality is satanic filth Our public broadcasters will

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Speaker 3: era documentary about the importance of free speech, followed immediately

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Speaker 3: by a segment about why cartoons of Muhammad are unhelpful.

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Speaker 2: This is not multiculturalism. It is masochism.

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Speaker 3: It is the belief that liberalism must be so open

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Speaker 3: prayer mad. It is the fetishization of identity at the

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Speaker 3: expense of liberty. It is the ideological pacifism of a

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Speaker 3: be accused of racism by those who mistake ideology for ethnicity.

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Speaker 3: We have enshrined the right of the theocrat while criminalizing

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Speaker 3: the instincts of the secularist. The result is not harmony,

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Speaker 3: it is humiliation. And then he goes into let's dispense

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Speaker 3: with the ritual disclaimers. Not all Muslims or Islamists, not

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Speaker 3: all believers who wish to impose There are believers who

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Speaker 3: wish to impose their theology on others, of course, but

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Speaker 3: neither are all white people racists. Yet no progressive chokes

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Speaker 3: you heard a progressive say? Now, of course, not all

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Speaker 3: white people are racist. A lot of white people are good, honest, decent,

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Speaker 3: blah blah. But still there is white supremacy. But anytime

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Speaker 3: long list of disclaimers, right Well, the first one, though,

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Speaker 4: Know, your local school quite possibly spent a lot of

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Speaker 4: So that's one reason you wouldn't say that.

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Speaker 3: He goes on, why must we say religiously motivated extremism

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Speaker 2: Why do we hear of Asian grooming gangs.

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Speaker 3: Instead of Pakistani Muslim sex trafficking rings. Why do we

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Speaker 3: refer to the Maldives as a challenging democracy rather than

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Speaker 3: having abolished blasphemy laws, is now enforcing them in reverse.

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Speaker 3: The new heresy is criticism of faith, at least of

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Speaker 3: one faith. To mock Christianity is edgy. To mock Islam

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Speaker 3: To question Islamist imperialism is bigotry. This is not diversity,

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Speaker 3: It is double think. It is a sacred exception carved

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Speaker 3: out in the name of peace, which is to say,

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Speaker 3: especially about Europe, Britain, France, are humiliating themselves and twisting

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Speaker 3: to the main thing. If you take away nothing from this,

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Speaker 3: it would cease to be tolerant at all.

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Speaker 4: Pretty obviously, but obviously not obvious enough to keep it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, those of you who don't have the courage to

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Speaker 3: find it if you can.

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Speaker 2: Those of you who do, we're with you.

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Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getty Show, Yeah, Jack your Shoe podcasts

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Speaker 2: Not something I'm into.

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Speaker 4: First of all, number one, get one thousand and one

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Speaker 4: And he's sitting by and he's shoveling this sandwich that

435
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 4: he made into his mouth, and parts of it are

436
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,479
Speaker 4: getting in his mouth, but most of it's not, and

437
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 4: the rest of it's just like falling on his shirt

438
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 4: and onto the chessboard, and he'd have to wipe the

439
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 4: chunks and sandwich away as he's moving the chessboarder. At

440
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 4: one point, he kicks over his half a bottle of

441
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 4: Miller Lite and it tips over and rolls between my legs.

442
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 4: I mean, he's just he's a drunk like he seems

443
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 4: like a homeless guy. Yeah, I don't even know it's

444
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 4: going on there, Henry. I'm gonna give you a lesson.

445
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 2: Now.

446
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 4: The best guy in the park, that guy over there

447
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 4: with the sunglasses on, he's the best player in the park.

448
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 4: Right now, nobody will play game again, Which gets to

449
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 4: my If nobody will play you because you're so good,

450
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 4: how do you make any money?

451
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how this works.

452
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 3: Hey, you gotta wait for somebody strong. My chess playing

453
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 3: friend also pointed out that it's a thing among chess enthusiasts.

454
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 3: There are there are videos of grand masters going under

455
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 3: cover and playing these guys and appreciating how good someone.

456
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, this dude was amazing when Henry was actually

457
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 4: playing him, how fast he would move and how he

458
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,120
Speaker 4: saw the whole board was. To be as drunk as

459
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 4: he was awesome, was really quite amazing.

460
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 2: Was he really drunk or do you think this was

461
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 2: part of the hustle.

462
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 4: No, he was drunk. I know, I know a drunk guy,

463
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 4: and he was very drunk. And there were many people

464
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 4: playing chess. It was mostly dudes sitting at empty chess

465
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 4: tables waiting for somebody to come play him for whatever.

466
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 2: Anyway, So his lesson was, Henry, let me ask you

467
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 2: a question.

468
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 4: You're a home by yourself, and outside the door there

469
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 4: was a gorilla and two dogs. Okay, a gorilla and

470
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 4: two dogs. Wow, they knock down the door and they

471
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 4: come in the house. What do you do, Henry, I

472
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 4: don't know. I called my dad. You don't have a phone, Henry.

473
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 4: What do you do when the gorilla and the two

474
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 4: dogs coming home?

475
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 2: And it was just like this the whole time. It

476
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 2: was so wild. Hand the dogs and punched the gorilla.

477
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 4: No, I guess I worry about the dogs because I

478
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 4: can't fight a girrilla.

479
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 6: No, Henry, Henry, that is wrong. What is the biggest threat, Henry,

480
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 6: the gorilla. That's right, The gorilla is the biggest threat.

481
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 6: So do you see where my queen is right now?

482
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 6: That is your biggest threat. Get rid of the gorilla, Henry.

483
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 4: And so Henry moved and got rid of the queen.

484
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 4: Now you don't have to worry about the gorilla. Do

485
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 4: you see where my two dogs are?

486
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 2: Henry?

487
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 4: And it was just like that through the whole thing.

488
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,199
Speaker 4: This went on for like forty five minutes. It was

489
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 4: incredibly entertaining and really interesting imagery to try to figure

490
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 4: out some chess strategy.

491
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 2: For a few bucks.

492
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 4: For five bucks place, that's the best money you've ever

493
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 4: spent in your life, the entertainment alone, let alone the

494
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 4: chess lesson. It was really so it was like out

495
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 4: of a freaking movie. And I thought, what are you?

496
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 4: I mean, his clothes, he looked like a homeless person.

497
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 4: I mean, his shoes had holes in him. He smelled bad,

498
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 4: he's spinning his sandwich all over, he's hammered, drunk, but

499
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 4: brilliant at chess. I just so, I don't know what's

500
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 4: going on there.

501
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we've all known people like that, whether

502
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 3: they're musicians or writers or what have you, that they

503
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 3: have an incredible level of capability at one thing, but

504
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 3: not so much on life skills or hanging on to

505
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 3: a job for instance, or don't want to right for

506
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 3: whatever reason.

507
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:56,959
Speaker 2: God dang it, that was interesting.

508
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 4: Like I said, Henry walked away from saying that was

509
00:26:58,640 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 4: the greatest thing I've ever.

510
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 2: Done in my life. He really really liked it.

511
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 4: Both the chess lesson and just the entertaining flare of

512
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 4: the whole thing was so well again, like straight out

513
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 4: of a flipp And movie.

514
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 3: Well, the downside was you didn't get a chance to

515
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 3: talk about the big beautiful bill on the air since

516
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 3: you were on your vacation.

517
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 2: On our vacation didn't come up in conversation with anyone.

518
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 3: I'll tell you that a round up of different people,

519
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 3: many of them conservatives, and their takes on that message.

520
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 4: Gorilla is in your home, you're gonna worry about the

521
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 4: dogs first. Think about it, Henry, to try to imagine

522
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 4: that anyway. So you keep spitting sandwich all over, I

523
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 4: don't know what to say.

524
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 3: The dogs are happy with the sandwich leavings.

525
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 2: The armstrong and getting show.

526
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 3: Well. I sound this very interesting. I was considering trying

527
00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 3: to cram these two things together. The incredible radicalization of

528
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 3: young women around the world as their male companions. They

529
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 3: don't have companions, but as the males of their generation

530
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 3: are swinging to the right. Not not a lot, but some.

531
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 3: And how weird and interesting that is. But we'll do

532
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 3: that another time, I want. I'm just gonna go with this.

533
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 2: It was a piece.

534
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 3: Written by Mark Penn and Andrew Stein, and they're both Democrats. Penn,

535
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 3: you may reize recognized his name. He was a polster

536
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 3: and advisor to the Clintons in the nineties and two thousands.

537
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 3: And this other guy was a New York City council

538
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 3: president for a number of years in the eighties and nineties.

539
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 3: But the title is gen Z the Useful Idiot Generation.

540
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 3: Young people usually become less radical with time. Are we

541
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 3: seeing an exception? And they go into describing, you know,

542
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 3: hippie Vietnam War pro testers who got jobs, got married,

543
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 3: and had children. Exactly wash your damn dirty hippie feet.

544
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 3: Now their grandchildren see them tethered to Fox News. Today's

545
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 3: young Americans are following the first part of that pattern.

546
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 3: Ask a group of them to choose between capitalism and socialism.

547
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 3: They'll split right down the middle. And he goes into

548
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 3: the nominating horrifying zorn Mundami, Yeah, who says he wants

549
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 3: to capture the means of production.

550
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 2: I've heard that phrase.

551
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, Oh, I ought to get into

552
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 3: the PolitiFact thing someday. PolitiFact rated is false, the idea

553
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 3: that Mundami's a communist. And then when it came out

554
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 3: that he said we need to seize the means of production,

555
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 3: which is straight out of the communist manifesto, they said

556
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 3: incomplete data anyway. Uh, but will the young people outgrow

557
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 3: their radicalism? And this is the part they really intrigued me.

558
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 3: There's reason to doubt it. Record members of gen Z

559
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 3: are pursuing higher education, with fifty three percent of those

560
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 3: eighteen to twenty four having completed at least some college.

561
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 3: That's a troubling sign given how left wing ideology has

562
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 3: come to dominate higher education. And again, these are two

563
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 3: mainstream democrats writing colleges where many young people learn that

564
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 3: socialism means free stuff. They're indoctrinated to blame capitalism for racism, inequality,

565
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 3: and climate change. Unlike the older generations, they grew up

566
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 3: after the end of the Cold War and have no

567
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 3: memory of the atrocities committed by the Soviet Union, Maoist

568
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 3: China and other socialist regimes.

569
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 4: I have no memories. Is an interesting way to put it,

570
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 4: I didn't live through most of that stuff my memories

571
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 4: or because somebody taught them to me.

572
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's an excellent point, and he said, they say,

573
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 3: maybe they'll see socialism in action in New York. But

574
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 3: here's the really intriguing part. Meanwhile, the process of growing

575
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 3: up is slowing down. They're talking about what I mean.

576
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 3: It's not automatic that a young, idealistic, way left person

577
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 3: becomes a conservative. It happens through processes, experience, mugged virality exactly,

578
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 3: the process of growing that's actually a great phrase. The

579
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 3: process of growing up is slowing down. The median age

580
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 3: of first marriage is thirty, almost five years later than

581
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 3: it was in nineteen eighty five, and that means that

582
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,959
Speaker 3: young people settle down and take on responsibilities later, if

583
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 3: they ever do. Nearly half of Gen Z adults aren't

584
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 3: are not in a committed romantic relationship. They largely live communally,

585
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 3: often work from home, and are connected primarily through the

586
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 3: four plus hours they spend each day on their phones.

587
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 3: Their primary sources of information are TikTok and Facebook, whose

588
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 3: algorithms lead them to material that reinforces their preconceptions rather

589
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 3: than challenges them.

590
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 4: Four hours a day on their phones. What would they

591
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 4: have been doing before, Because I mean, that's the whole

592
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 4: opportunity cost thing. There are only so many hours.

593
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 2: In the day.

594
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 4: There'd have been more television watching back in the day,

595
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 4: but all four hours wouldn't have been taken up with that.

596
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 3: No, but lots and lots and lots of relating to

597
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 3: real human beings who don't feed you agreement based on

598
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 3: their algorithms. In my experience, my friends, my girlfriends, my wife,

599
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 3: my family, they all feel free to disagree with me

600
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 3: semi regularly in a way that Facebook and TikTok never will.

601
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 2: They will. With all due respect to.

602
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 3: Your sister in law who constantly posts garbage that you hate.

603
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 3: Those algorithms again lead them to material that reinforces their preconceptions.

604
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 4: I think much other than that, your real life. Maybe

605
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 4: that's not true anymore. I was about to say, your

606
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 4: real life you don't talk about politics nearly at all,

607
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 4: as opposed to being bombarded with it on your whatever

608
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 4: device you're looking at.

609
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think in general, because I actually do

610
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 3: agree with that, But in general, real life quote unquote

611
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 3: is much more messy and much less catering to you.

612
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 3: In a hundred different ways than virtual life is, which

613
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 3: tends to lead people towards less twei to idealistic, progressive.

614
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 4: And I'm going to tell people I know from now on,

615
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 4: I want you to I'm going to use an algorithm,

616
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 4: and I want you to feed me things I only

617
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 4: want to hear. Only say things I want to hear

618
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 4: or I'm interested in.

619
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: It would make a squinty face and say no, I'm

620
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: not doing that. And there's more.

621
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 3: Another traditional source of ballast, religion has become lighter as well.

622
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 3: More than one third of gen Z reports zero religious affiliation.

623
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 3: Roughly sixty percent did not participate in religious services growing up.

624
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 3: That produces a lack of moral grounding. We've had a

625
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 3: really interesting couple of conversations about that.

626
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 2: Let's not get off on.

627
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 4: That, but yeah, I don't know if you could make

628
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 4: a blanket statement of lack of moral grounding because you didn't.

629
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 2: Participate in organized religion, right.

630
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 3: But their greater argument is the things, the inputs, the

631
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 3: influences in life that tended to make you more realistic

632
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 3: and therefore more conservative, are missing, including religion. Put this

633
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 3: all together, and it's little wonder that about half of

634
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 3: eighteen to.

635
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:20,240
Speaker 2: Twenty year olds.

636
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 3: Twenty four year olds tell pollsters that they support Hamas

637
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 3: over Israel. Hammas specifically, not the Palestinian people efing Hamas.

638
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 3: By and large, these young adults aren't hardcore idelogus. They're

639
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 3: merely ignorant. About half of young Hamas supporters say they

640
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 3: don't want to wipe out Israel.

641
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: They prefer to state solution.

642
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,720
Speaker 3: Call them the useful idiot generation, mouthing slogans and causes

643
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 3: they don't understand and from which they would recoil if

644
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 3: they did again.

645
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 2: This was written by Democrats.

646
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's you know, the Queers for Palestine thing

647
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 3: is the perfect example of that. It's the useful idiot generation,

648
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 3: mouthing slogans and causes they don't understand and from which

649
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,439
Speaker 3: they would recoil if they did.

650
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 4: Well. A guy like Mark Penn, who worked for the Clintons.

651
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 4: He realizes Democrats are never gonna win another major election,

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Speaker 4: and let they unless they get this under control. So

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Speaker 4: he's trying to figure out why do were young people?

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Speaker 4: Why are they so crazy? That's what he's trying to

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Speaker 4: figure out.

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Speaker 3: Final couple of sentences, The older generations are not blameless here,

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Speaker 3: we created the environment that produced this unmoored generation. Socialism

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Speaker 3: and anti Semitism will continue to fester and grow if

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Speaker 3: we don't stand up and reform our universities, reinforce our

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Speaker 3: basic values, and balance our social media.

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Speaker 2: I agree completely. I am.

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Speaker 3: I am sticking with the idea that reforming our education

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Speaker 3: systems or tearing them down and building substitutes, is the

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Speaker 3: most important issue for America for the next fifty years.

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Speaker 1: Show back to the law, the unstay's shop,