1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Caf I am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 2: I can understand management could let me in for a day. 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 2: Anybody can do that, but this one is totally on them. 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 2: Because I was here for three hours, they got to 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 2: hear it and they let me back in. Happy to 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: be here, Happy to be working on my old palle 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 2: Deborah Mark. So good to see you, mister McIntyre. It's 9 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,319 Speaker 2: amazing being in this building because I kicked around radio 10 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: for so long. There's so many people in this building 11 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: who I worked with in my past life, including you. 12 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: We were together for what a year and a half, 13 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: two years? Yeah, I was on your show for a 14 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 2: year and then I was I was doing mid days 15 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: for a while. Yeah, so all under the same roof again. 16 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 2: By the way, there was some things missing over there 17 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: when you left. Oh shoot, okay, well we'll talk about 18 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: that afterwards. Please don't anyway, we got lots of stuff 19 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: to get into today. We're here until four o'clock when 20 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: Timmy comes along, and later on we're going to talk 21 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 2: about nark can in stores and schools. Why don't people 22 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: fly the American flag? It's the fourth of July weekend, 23 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 2: and of course Supreme Court decisions. President Biden is speaking 24 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 2: right now about the Supreme Court's last decisions that came 25 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 2: out this morning about affecting gaze and also other big rulings. 26 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: We're gonna get into all of that later on in 27 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 2: the show. But it is the fourth of July weekend, 28 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 2: and this is the peak of the summer travel season, 29 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: which means a lot of you are heading to the 30 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: airports and they're going to have to come back, and 31 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: that means that you're going through hell. United Airlines is 32 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: the latest airline that had been hit badly with weather, 33 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 2: delays and all kinds of problems. I got caught in 34 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 2: this last week flying back from Newark Airport and eight 35 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 2: and a half hours from Newark to Los Angeles. Not 36 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: a lot of fun. But it looks like it's getting 37 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: a little better. To tell us about that. ABC News correspondent, 38 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: Welcome back, Alex Stone. 39 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 3: Half hours. What did you do? Did you go to 40 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 3: like Tulsa first and sit there for a while. 41 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: We sat on I'm trying not to, you know, I 42 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: don't know if they're sponsors, so I don't want to 43 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: throw them under the bus, but it's a big yellow 44 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: plane famous for being cheap as apparently I am here, 45 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:12,119 Speaker 2: I'll say that's a Spirit, so so I'm jammed into 46 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 2: It's supposed to be a seven o'clock departure, six hours 47 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 2: to LA. They put us on the plane. There's no pilots. 48 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 2: We sat for two and a half hours on the plane, 49 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 2: and then the pilot and then the six hour flight 50 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: to LA. And here's the kicker. Because it's Spirit Airlines, 51 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 2: they felt very bad about this, so they made it 52 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: up to us. And I'm not kidding. This is what 53 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 2: they said. Because of your patients, we're going to give 54 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: you a free cup of water and a cookie. 55 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 4: Is what they did. 56 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 2: Yes, they came around and they didn't give you the 57 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 2: bottle of water. They just filled it up out of 58 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: the you know, the discount Poland Springs or Sparklet's bottle 59 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: and hand you to a plane. 60 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 3: To pay for water on board. 61 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: You have to pay for air. The seat belts are 62 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: coin operate. 63 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: I didn't say anybody know how to pilot plane right now? 64 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 2: About four forty minutes in, one guy volunteered, Yeah. 65 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 3: I'm doing Microsoft Flight simulator. I can do it. 66 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, things look relatively good today compared to earlier 67 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: in this week when everything fell apart for United. But 68 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: United's still having a rough goal of it. Of the 69 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: around three hundred and seventy flights canceled today, which that 70 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: is pretty good compared to some getaway days, it's twelve hundred, 71 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: two thousand, three thousand, But of the three hundred and seventy, 72 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty of those are United, so United 73 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: is still dealing with this. 74 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 3: It is a week of. 75 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: Problems in Newark, Chicago, and now in Denver today of thunderstorms. 76 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: Those are all big United hubs, and they've been every 77 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: afternoon taking it somewhere and they can't get a break. 78 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: This woman's stuck at the airport. 79 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 5: It's big kind of hicd well. 80 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: We've been stuck at the airport for quite some time, 81 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 2: a lot of council flights. 82 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 5: Everything's going bad, getting put in hotels, so we try 83 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 5: to make it out of here. 84 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: They're trying to make it out of there, but that's 85 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: tough to do because you nine had canceled so many 86 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: flights earlier this week than now. All of those passengers 87 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: are trying to get out on new flights, but the 88 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: flights that are flying today, they're already full. People already 89 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: booked those seats for the fourth of July weekend. So 90 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: where do you put the tens of thousands? The CEO 91 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: of United said, justin Newark on Sunday and Monday, they 92 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: impacted one hundred and fifty thousand people who had flights canceled. 93 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: So just Newark in two days, not to mention Chicago 94 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: and Denver over many days, one hundred and fifty thousand people. 95 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: If flights are already full, where do you put them? 96 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: So and then it rolls downhill as well. LAX is 97 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: a big United hub. There are big crowds trying to 98 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: figure out where they're going to go. There's baggage piled 99 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: up all over the place, and you get people like this. 100 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 3: She's been stuck at LAX since Tuesday. 101 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 4: Absolutely her rip it. So I got canceled Tuesday, stayed 102 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 4: in a hotel. I stood in line for four hours 103 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 4: at four o'clock in the morning to rebook the flight 104 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 4: I was supposed to leave on Delta Airlines today and 105 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 4: they never. 106 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 2: Reserved our seats. So we had a. 107 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 4: Ticket number, but we had no seats on that plane. 108 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 4: So now we have to go back to a hotel 109 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 4: and wait till Saturday to fly out through United again. 110 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: So Tuesday now they're sit telling her Saturday, what if 111 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: they show up tomorrow and they say, well, we still 112 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: don't have anything for you. Because it is weather related. 113 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: Airlines don't have to give you food a food voucher, 114 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: They don't have to give you a hotel room. I 115 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: mean they would go bankrupt if they did have to 116 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: do that. You think of hundreds of thousands of people 117 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: who have been impacted different than if it is operational 118 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: problems with went's weather, and so many people are feeling 119 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: the impact. They can't pay for a hotel room for everybody, 120 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: they can't feed everybody. So you've got a lot of 121 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: people who are living in the terminals concourses at big 122 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 1: United airports, whether it be Lax or Denver, Chicago or 123 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: Newark or Houston, on their own dime, paying for food 124 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: if they want to get a hotel room. The hotels 125 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: around some of the blade and canceled airports Denver, Chicago 126 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: and Newark, there's nothing available. So people have families, they've 127 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: got nowhere to go, and they're just trying to get 128 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: on a flight. One more for issue says. 129 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 6: This customer service there's a seven hour wait in the 130 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 6: customer service line. People had been sitting there for days, 131 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 6: sitting there. 132 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: For days just trying to you know, they tell you 133 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: to go on the app now, but the app doesn't 134 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: have any answer. 135 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: Is the thing, Alex It is. Obviously they're not responsible 136 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 2: for the weather, but this became a corporate policy about 137 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 2: fifteen years ago. We're around on two thousand and seven, 138 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 2: eight nine, I forget. There was a big blizzard in 139 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 2: the East Coast around Christmas. We were caught in it. 140 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 2: We ended up driving home. The four of us packed 141 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: into a rente car and drove from Westchester County to 142 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 2: la in about two days with four license drivers. And 143 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 2: the reason we did that was we were on Jet 144 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 2: Blue at the time. They could not get us back 145 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: for ten days. We tried booking from Columbus, Ohio, and 146 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 2: we drive to Columbus, Ohio. And after that blizzard, the 147 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 2: airlines learned to reposition aircraft in the event of oncoming 148 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 2: storms and that you know, keeps the planes from being 149 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: snowed in or stormed in someplace. But then the crews 150 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 2: have to be dispatched. So they've got the data has 151 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: they've been able to crunch the data to know how 152 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: many seats will be sold, which gives them no wiggle 153 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 2: room when something like this happens. They can't put people 154 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: on the planes that are already sold out. If you've 155 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 2: been bumped on Monday, the Tuesday flights are also packed already, 156 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 2: even if they're green and go. So there's a policy 157 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 2: that they in order to maximize their profits that doesn't 158 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 2: allow them to respond to crisis. And you know, the 159 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: Transportation Department, Pete Boodajig keeps going on TV every time 160 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 2: one of these happens, hand ringing, and they don't do anything. 161 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and historically we've seen some airlines that say, okay, 162 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna fly bigger planes. Then, you know, instead of 163 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: going on seven thirty seven, they're going to go a 164 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: triple seven between these two routes to get everybody out 165 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: all at one time. 166 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 3: We haven't seen United doing that yet. 167 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: They don't necessarily have the aircraft to do that because 168 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: this is a busy time that this may be the 169 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: busiest travel weekend they're saying, maybe even on record, but 170 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: at least since before the pandemic. So there's not a 171 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: lot of excess aircraft excess pilots to do that. They say, 172 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: they're moving people around. But then you've got this fight 173 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: going on between United and the FAA in that United 174 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: is saying that this is a air traffic control failure, 175 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: that the storms that they had in Newark on Sunday 176 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: and Monday, that historically they would have had no problems with, 177 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: they reduced rivals by seventy five percent. The CEO of 178 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 1: United is saying they just completely failed, that this is 179 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: not enough air traffic controllers, that those that are on 180 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: duty are inexperience. The FAA is saying, boll that's not 181 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: what it is, and this is weather and when it's weather, 182 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: it's going to be bad. United's not buying that. They're saying, no, 183 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: the FAA messed up. 184 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 2: All right, Alex, have a great Fourth of July. Thanks 185 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 2: for being with us, Appreciate it. When we come back, 186 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 2: we're going to give you a chance to win some money, 187 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 2: and proudly she waves no more. It's the fourth of 188 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: July and people are reluctant to fly the American flag. 189 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 2: How did that happen? 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People are 218 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 2: down on the fireworks now because you're owned dogs. I 219 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 2: got cats. They don't care. In fact, I called one 220 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: of my cats throwing cherry bombs. I mean, that's really 221 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 2: and it was wrong, and I corrected them. But I 222 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 2: totally dig the fourth of July. I like the history 223 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 2: of it because of an American history junkie. By the way, 224 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 2: the founding fathers thought the July second would be the 225 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 2: big holiday because that's the day that the Continental Congress 226 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 2: voted for independence. The July fourth was when they started 227 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 2: writing it down, Declaration of Independence, et cetera. But nonetheless, 228 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 2: the fourth of July, it's the summer break, and it's 229 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 2: a day for fun. You go to the beach, you 230 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: go to a ballgame, barbecues, all that good stuff, and 231 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 2: it was a day to kind of celebrate America. It's 232 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 2: America's birthday. But I noticed over the last couple of years. 233 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 2: Really it's been many years this has been coming, but 234 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 2: it's jumped the shark now that people it's like only 235 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 2: half the country is flying the flag. The American flag 236 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 2: is supposed to be the symbol for the whole country, 237 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 2: for all the people, of all racist creeds and colors, 238 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 2: all political stripes, and yet slowly over time it has 239 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 2: become and I hate saying this out loud, but it's 240 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 2: kind of become a conservative or a right wing emblem. 241 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 2: At least this has been my experience. The first thing 242 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 2: I did when I moved into my house was I 243 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 2: got a posthole digger and I put a flag in 244 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 2: the front yard. I put up a flagpole. I fly 245 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 2: the flag every day. It's lit at night, and I 246 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 2: just do it. It's not a political statement, it's a celebration. 247 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 2: It's really an act of gratitude for a country that 248 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,599 Speaker 2: I believe has been a blessing to the world and 249 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 2: certainly in my life. But I asked my friends who 250 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 2: don't fly the flag, And by the way, our house 251 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 2: is the only house on the block that flies the 252 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 2: flag ever on any holiday. And I've talked to a 253 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 2: lot of my friends, especially on the left, about why 254 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 2: they don't fly the flag, and I have been told 255 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 2: this repeatedly, so it's not scientific, but it's pretty insightful. 256 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 2: They don't want to fly the flag because they don't 257 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 2: want people to think they voted for Trump. I've heard 258 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 2: it again and again and again. I'm not making it up. 259 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 2: It may not be, you know, one hundred percent across 260 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 2: the board. Now, how could this have happened? Well, going 261 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 2: back to the nineteen sixties when everything became really really 262 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 2: political as well, they were bumper stickers that said, these 263 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 2: colors don't run with the American flag, and it kind 264 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: of became like, if you said reported the Vietnam War, 265 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 2: you were a flag waiver, and that got entrenched, I believe, 266 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 2: into the culture where people who are opposed to the 267 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 2: Vietnam War reacted negatively to that statement of these colors 268 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 2: don't run, and my country love it or leave it, 269 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 2: and patriotism became a sort of a warmongering slash far 270 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: right opinion. But here's the problem with this. If the 271 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 2: left abandons the flag, if liberals won't fly the flag, 272 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 2: then it does become a right wing symbol and that's 273 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 2: a crime. That's really a shame because it can't be. 274 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 2: We have to have we're a nation of multiple time 275 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 2: zones with a third of a billion people. We have 276 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 2: to have some kind of connective tissue that holds us together, 277 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 2: something to rally around. And I am curious whether or 278 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 2: not you are one of the people who don't fly 279 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 2: the flag, and if you'd be willing to tell us why. 280 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 2: Here is eight hundred five to oh one kfi. That's 281 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 2: eight hundred five to oh one kfi or one eight 282 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 2: hundred and five to oh one five three four and 283 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 2: give us a call. Uh, this is an argumentative. I 284 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 2: am genuinely curious as to why you choose not to 285 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 2: fly the flag. For some people that don't want their 286 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 2: house vandalize. For other people, they are mad at the country. 287 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 2: And by the way, everybody is mad at the country. 288 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 3: That is not. 289 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 2: That is not a one party problem. The left is 290 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 2: mad at the country. And trust me, listen to the 291 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 2: rhetoric of Donald Trump and a lot of supporters. They 292 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 2: hate the country right now. They're mad at the country. 293 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 2: They think the country is on the road to ruin, 294 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 2: and they blame half the people of the country who 295 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 2: their neighbors, their citizens, their pharmacists. If he voted for 296 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 2: Biden or any of those people, everybody's mad at the country. 297 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 2: So there's a lot of folks who are unwilling to 298 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 2: fly the flag. But on this the fourth of July, 299 00:14:55,800 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 2: the high secular holy day on the American calendar, a 300 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 2: day that is genuinely an epic in history. And I 301 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 2: can't emphasize that enough. This isn't like some kind of revisionist, 302 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 2: you know, Huey from the nineteen fifties. Objectively, if you 303 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 2: look at the facts of history of world history, the 304 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 2: events that led up to and followed from the Declaration 305 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 2: of Independence in seventeen seventy six were a landmark, changing 306 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 2: the concept of being a subject of a king to 307 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 2: a citizen of a country. It's a whole different dynamic 308 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 2: to be a citizen as opposed to a subject, and 309 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 2: that was a radical notion, and I kind of get 310 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 2: the feeling that we've lost appreciation for it. Anyway, eight 311 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 2: hundred and five to two oh one KFI is a number. 312 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 2: Give us some call. We'll take some calls. On the 313 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 2: other side of the break. 314 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 7: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 315 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 7: AM six forty. 316 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 2: Coming up pickleball. We're going to talk about that, but 317 00:15:58,320 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: first I want to follow up to take a couple 318 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 2: of calls. It has been my experience as a person 319 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 2: who flies the American flag on a daily basis that 320 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 2: fewer and fewer Americans are willing to put the flag up. 321 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 2: And it's a there's a cleave along political lines that 322 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 2: conservatives will fly the flag. And that's not the reason 323 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 2: I'm flying it. By the way, I fly it just 324 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 2: as a lover of American history and as a as 325 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 2: a token of gratitude to the country. That means a 326 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 2: lot to me. But a lot of people feel that 327 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 2: it's a political symbol now of the right, and specifically 328 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 2: I have been told this by repeatedly by friends that 329 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 2: they don't want to fly the flag because they don't 330 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 2: want their neighbors to think that they voted for Trump. 331 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 2: So let's talk about that. Let's get a couple of calls. Mark, 332 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 2: welcome aboard. 333 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 8: Yes, I'm here. Yeah, I feel the same as your neighbors. 334 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 8: And you know what, you made a great point that 335 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 8: it's a shame that it's that way. You know, that 336 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 8: symbol should represent all of us. So how do we 337 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 8: get it back to just that that that flag represents 338 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 8: all of us, regardless of our. 339 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 2: Well, the answer, the answer to me is obvious, which 340 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 2: is fly the flag. If you don't want it to 341 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 2: be just a right wing symbol or a conservative symbol, 342 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 2: you have to fly the flag yourself and reclaim it. 343 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 2: But I've had this conversation with friends and they don't 344 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 2: even after walking through the steps of what seems to 345 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 2: me to be the obvious answer, they don't want to 346 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 2: do it. They just they just don't want to fly 347 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 2: the flag. And that's a problem. Mark, thank you for 348 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 2: the call, appreciate it. Let's go see a lot of Carmen. 349 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 2: Carmen is a different reason, Carmen, Welcome aboard, Welcome to KFI. 350 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 6: Hey, Doug, Yeah, I'm not really leaning towards any political party. 351 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 6: Mine is about my ethnicity, my culture. I'm a black woman. 352 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 6: In seventeen seventy six, my people weren't free. So it's 353 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 6: not a flag that includes everybody that was here. Our 354 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 6: freedom came one hundred years later, and every star that's 355 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 6: been added to that flag wasn't representative of everybody in 356 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 6: this country. California was admitted to the Union as a 357 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 6: free state because they didn't want slaves here, not because 358 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 6: they wanted equality. So I just wanted to offer that perspective. 359 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 2: Well, I've heard that too. I've heard that from many 360 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,719 Speaker 2: people of color. And what's interesting about it is this 361 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 2: seems to be something that has crept in relatively recently, 362 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 2: because Frederick Douglass flew the flag MLK did so did 363 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 2: Jackie Robinson. But what I find fascinating about this is 364 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 2: that there seems to be more anger about it of 365 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 2: late than there was. Look, I assume i'm older than you, 366 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 2: and I remember my history classes when I was a 367 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 2: little kid had very little African American history, and that's 368 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 2: just the way it was. There's so much more included, 369 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 2: and so much history has happened in the last fifty 370 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 2: years that's really profoundly changed America for the better. But 371 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 2: I hear it from people in your generation. 372 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not so much of a new thing, but 373 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 6: maybe a new way of affirming what you've felt, a 374 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 6: new way of expressing it. And I would agree that 375 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 6: it is symbolic of a lot of right wing political 376 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 6: point of views, and it has become offensive, even racially 377 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 6: discriminatory in ways. It's almost like the Confederate flag flying 378 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 6: around here. Now everybody can fly instead of just the 379 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 6: people in the South. I don't think that's everybody, though, 380 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,239 Speaker 6: and I do have pride in my country. I just 381 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 6: wish we could have an honest conversation about where we 382 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 6: were in seventeen seventy six. 383 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 2: Well, let me see if this makes sense to you, 384 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 2: because I'm not sure it makes sense to me, But 385 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 2: it's a thought that pinged in my head. There are 386 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 2: many people in the black community. Have they used the 387 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 2: N word freely in both music and in comedy, etc. 388 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 2: And they claim it as this way we take the 389 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 2: power of the word back by using it themselves. They 390 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 2: I've been It's been explained to me. I just don't 391 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 2: use the word. And I grew up in a house 392 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 2: I'm proud to say where it was absolutely verboten. But 393 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 2: but but I understand the lodge of the people say 394 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 2: by using the N word, they they they rob it 395 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 2: of its power. And to me, I kind of analogize 396 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 2: that to flying the American flag. That if you don't 397 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 2: want the American flag to represent just one political ideology, 398 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 2: the only way to do that is for everybody to 399 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 2: fly it. 400 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 6: Well, if everybody flies it without this political discernment having 401 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 6: to say whether you're right or left leaning, then we 402 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 6: should all fly it. But when we use it as 403 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 6: a way to express our personal opinions, like those Trump 404 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 6: supporters or those white supremacists that just believe America is 405 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 6: great and will be great again, not saying this is 406 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 6: all all of America. There of course are so many 407 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 6: people of different cultures that take pride in our country, 408 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 6: and I'm one of them. But it's just it's great. 409 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 2: It's great, Carmen. I would just say it starts with you, 410 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 2: It starts with everybody. Everybody who has pride and country 411 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 2: and wants to reclaim the flag has to fly it. 412 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 2: Thanks to the call appreciated. Let's go to Dustin real quick, Destin, 413 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 2: you have a different reason you don't fly it. 414 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 5: Yes, I do so, real quickly, quickly before it's not 415 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 5: a political anything. We are immigrants. I'm an immigrant. We 416 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 5: came here in the eighties. We're so grateful to this country. 417 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 5: It has taken care of us, accepted us regardless. You 418 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 5: know of our background, our country that. 419 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 8: We came from. 420 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 5: So that's why I love the flag. 421 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 8: I fly it, but. 422 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 5: I came from a you know, more of an upscale neighborhood. 423 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 5: I used to fly with no problem. Then we had 424 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 5: to because the financial reasons, moved to a more working 425 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 5: class neighborhood. And that's where the problem started. I had 426 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 5: a flag on my window and there was a camera 427 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 5: in the window pointing outside, and I can see people 428 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 5: just being off on one day to twelve blocks. I 429 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 5: took a dam I'm the parking lot. I had a 430 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 5: bumper sticker with the America flag and it was scratched off, 431 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 5: the damaging the bumper. So I at this point, I'm 432 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 5: afraid of flag a flag anymore. 433 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand that that's that's what's come to that. 434 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 2: It's thank you for the call. Appreciate it. Listen. It's ironic, 435 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 2: isn't it That the symbol of the country has become 436 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,719 Speaker 2: a polarizing symbol as opposed to a unifying symbol, and 437 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 2: that is a profound cultural shift. But the remedy is 438 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 2: at hand. Just fly the flag. Fly the flag. And 439 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 2: by the way, you know, it's probably better not to 440 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 2: have a jock strap that's an American flag. It's probably 441 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 2: better not to have, you know, the g string bikini, 442 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 2: not that I'm opposed to g string. Well, I it 443 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 2: depends on who's wearing it. But like when John Cobot 444 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 2: was wearing a hit No, okay, yeah right, we don't 445 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 2: want to talk about that. Say that was a Christmas party. 446 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 2: There were drinks, all right, let's go get some pickleball. 447 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 2: Coming up in just a second. 448 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 7: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI forty. 449 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 2: We're here till four o'clock. Coming up of the next hour, 450 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 2: Royal Oak's going to join a Supreme Court. A couple 451 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 2: of other big decisions. The Supreme Court just said no 452 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 2: to Joe and his college loan plan, as well as 453 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 2: a big gay rights ruling. So we're going to get 454 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 2: into all of that and so much more, death of 455 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 2: Alan Arkin, and lots of things to talk about. So, 456 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 2: by the way, I want to invite you. I've got 457 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 2: a new book coming out, my first book. I'm very 458 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 2: proud of it. It's called Frank's Shadow. It's a novel. 459 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 2: And come on out at Barnes and Noble at the 460 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 2: Grove Farmers Market, that big Barnes and Noble right in 461 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 2: the middle of the city. On July sixteenth, on the 462 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 2: twenty second I'll be at Gatsby's in Long Beach, Pages 463 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 2: a bookstore in Manhattan Beach on July twenty sixth, the 464 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 2: other Barnes and Noble down there in Irvine in the 465 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 2: Spectrum on August second, and at Romans in Pasadena on 466 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 2: August ninth. And you go to KFI dot com where 467 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 2: you can get the whole list of places that I 468 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 2: will be with my book. It's called Frank's Shadow, and 469 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 2: we appreciate you coming out, all right. So I play 470 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 2: senior softball. That's the that's the official name. We call 471 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 2: it old man softball. 472 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 3: Is it beer League? 473 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 2: It's not beer League? I know afterwards. I did have 474 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 2: a player on my team once that I buy little 475 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 2: mini bottles of Jack Daniels, and when I was coaching third, 476 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 2: he could have a bottle. Every time he passed me 477 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 2: going home, I'd handed to him like a relay. It 478 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 2: was very effective. Yeah, he scored five times one game. 479 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 2: We had to drive him home. I bet. So it's 480 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 2: it's creaky old man softball, and I love it and 481 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 2: I and it's pretty much what I do now. But 482 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 2: this sport that's taking off in America is pickleball. 483 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 3: I play pickleball. 484 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 2: Well I did, Okay, I got injured. Oh, everybody gets injured. 485 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 2: By the way, everybody in our everybody in senior softball 486 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 2: is broken. We're all off warranty. Every the expiration date's 487 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 2: gone with like that peach that rolled into the back 488 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 2: of the refriger. I'm not as old as you dog, 489 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 2: nobody is anymore. But we play this game and the 490 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 2: pickleball now has shot to the top. This is another uh. 491 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 2: This is Fause's fault too, because it's a pandemic thing. 492 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 2: It went crazy in the pandemic, like making sour dough bread, 493 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 2: bringing house plants into the house, learning a language. By 494 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 2: the way, I want to point out during the pandemic, 495 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 2: I didn't improve at all. I learned no new skills. 496 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 2: In fact, I lost a field. But anyway, pickleball has 497 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 2: a problem. And the problem is it's loud. It's really loud. 498 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 2: Have you ever heard it? Yeah, listen to it. So 499 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 2: as part of my old man's softball life, I've been 500 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 2: involved with the LA Department of Parks and rex we 501 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 2: were dealing with field conditions and things like that, and 502 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 2: I'd listen at some of these Parks Commission meetings to 503 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 2: the people lobbying for or against pickleball courts. Now, the 504 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 2: people who want to play pickleball want the courts there. 505 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 2: The people who live near parks don't want them anywhere. 506 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 2: They'd rather live next to a leaf blower factory because 507 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 2: they hear that noise all day long, and if the 508 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 2: pickleball courts have lights, they hear it all night long. 509 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 2: Want to read Community Center. A woman named Mary McKee 510 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 2: in Arlington, Virginia, says that the pickleball court is one 511 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 2: hundred yards from her house. I thought maybe I could 512 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 2: live with it, maybe it would fade into the background, 513 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 2: but it never ends. It's torture, says Clennelli is a 514 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 2: thirty seven year old who lives across the street from 515 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 2: a private club in New York, Maine. Living here is hell, 516 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 2: said Debbie Magel. There's gaated community in Scottsdale, Arizona and 517 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 2: stor Old Courts. A few years ago, Bob Utrich, a 518 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 2: retired engineer an avid pickleball player. He's become one of 519 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 2: the foremost authorities on muffling the game, and he started 520 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 2: a company called Pickleball Sound Mitigation. This is, by the way, 521 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 2: is the definitive First World problem. Other people are trying 522 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 2: to figure out how not to get killed by Russian missiles, 523 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 2: and these guys are working on pickleball mitigation. But anyway, 524 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 2: he says, uh, you could hear the wax one hundred 525 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 2: feet away. They could reach decibel levels of DBA of seventy, 526 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 2: which a normal vacuum cleaner makes that much noise. 527 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 3: And here is. 528 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 2: Maybe my favorite quote of all. One of our neighbors, 529 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 2: who lived directly across from the courts and was dying 530 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 2: from cancer, noted the pickleball noise was worse than the cancer, 531 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 2: said Dan Lavery of West Lynne. Worse than cancer. I'd 532 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 2: rather have cancer than the pickleball. Course, but this is 533 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 2: actually a real issue because the parks and rex people 534 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 2: have to plan for you know, things come into you know, skateboarding. 535 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 2: Thirty years ago, forty years ago, nobody cared about skateboarding, right, 536 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 2: it was a board with some roller skate wheels on it. 537 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 2: Now skateboarding is huge, It's X Games, it's a television event. 538 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 2: So skateboard parks are all over the place. And by 539 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 2: the way, people complained about that, Well, let me back up. 540 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 2: People complain about everything, all right, People would complain about 541 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 2: a guy reading. You know, people have the ability to 542 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,719 Speaker 2: get upset about everything. But I've heard this game played 543 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 2: and I can't imagine if I lived near one of 544 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 2: these places, egg prices would go even higher because I'd 545 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 2: be buying them by the tractor trailer load, flinging them 546 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 2: at the pickleball courts, which I'm not encouraging. I'm just saying. 547 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 2: I'm not saying. I'm just saying, but the pickleball gets 548 00:28:55,040 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 2: louder and louder and louder, and the parks people are 549 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 2: trying to modify the pickleball people, but at the same 550 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 2: time try to figure out where can we put this 551 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 2: that won't irritate the neighbors. Because that these public hearings. 552 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 2: If you've never actually gone to or watched online a 553 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 2: Los Angeles Department of Parks and Recreation public hearing where 554 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 2: they allow the public like thirty seconds to get it 555 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 2: off their chest, it's wildly entertaining. It's still a lot 556 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: of the pony people. It's the pony people who either 557 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 2: want to make sure that the ponies never go back 558 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 2: to Griffith Park or get the ponies back as fast 559 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 2: as possible. I personally in favor of letting the ponies 560 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 2: play pickleball, I think we just get them all in 561 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 2: the same we just lump them all together and we'll 562 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 2: get this over with once and for all. But the 563 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 2: parks people have to wrestle with this because it's a 564 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 2: hot sport. It's growing, it's got a professional league. In fact, 565 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 2: the great NBA Hall of Famer, one of the greatest 566 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 2: players ever, Rick Barry is like the senior champion pickleball. 567 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 2: But he's a champion and everything he does, But now 568 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 2: he's a pickleball player, and he's pimping pickleball. You know, 569 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 2: any chance he gets to get people out there playing. 570 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 2: And you know, there's a nude pickleball league in Palm Springs. 571 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 2: I would not want to be a part of that, 572 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 2: nor would I want to watch that. No, it seems 573 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 2: like the worst idea in the world. And I haven't 574 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 2: seen it. I've only heard about it. But here's the 575 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 2: one thing, at least from a guy's perspective, if you're 576 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 2: playing nude pickleball, you don't have to worry about flies 577 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 2: swirling around you. That's all I'm going to say. All Right, 578 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 2: I didn't want to paint too graphic an image of 579 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 2: every right, Okay, right, Oh my god, it's so silly, 580 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 2: but this is what we're dealing with the modern America. 581 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 2: So the parks, the Los Angeles and Everybody's not just LA, 582 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 2: it's every place. Every place people want to play this sport. 583 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 2: But if your homeowners' association or if a public park 584 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 2: near you and you see a public notice that says 585 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 2: that pickleball is coming, I'm telling you you better get 586 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 2: down to one of those public affairs meetings and voice 587 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 2: your make sure your voice is heard, because otherwise the 588 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 2: only thing you're gonna hear yolo, you're gonna hear here 589 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 2: on fifty seven. Let's go get some news. 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