WEBVTT - The Mike Epps Episode 0:00:01.320 --> 0:00:04.800 Get up, get the boys. It's back and rehoaded all 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:07.680 in your mind. Yeah, not deep throating. This is for 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:11.360 the streets, the reel, the railroaded, the distant franchise, the 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:14.720 truth escapegoating, and they ain't knowing we speak the truth, 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:17.240 so they ain't quoted because we wrote it. The North 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:20.440 South East coat is the gv MY for keeping your 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:23.360 head bobbing. It ain't no stopping and wants to be 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:26.200 dry to head by And then the system is so 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:28.319 corrupt they throw the rock out of their heads and 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:32.519 then blame it on us. Don't get it twisted on 0:00:32.720 --> 0:00:43.919 code and me and dancing for no buttoment biscuits. It's 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:47.400 Willie d y'all scar facing the building. Collectively we are 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:50.599 the ghettold boys, reloaded with another episode of information and 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:54.880 instructions to help you get through this crazy, wild, beautiful world. 0:00:55.680 --> 0:01:01.840 I guess today Mike Epps for something big Willie, Hey King, 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:04.200 how you doing? They an't good to see you, brother, 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:06.200 all right, So we got some house cleaning to do 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:08.720 real quick. Some scar face is in the building, but 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:13.560 he's having some issues right now. So but he'll he'll, he'll, 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:19.240 he'll join us momentarily now Man, you're back in your element. 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:22.920 You're back on stage, back doing what you do. I 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:26.960 feel it feels pretty good, you know. I guess because 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:32.759 of the pandemic. The people are so receptive to everything. 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:36.000 They like. They they're so excited to be out. So 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:38.679 you know, we we we had a show over the 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:43.119 Toyota Center last night. Man, and the people were just man, 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:46.360 I mean, they was laughing at some stuff. I'm like, Damn, 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:49.840 I know that wasn't funny, you know what I mean. 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:52.320 I know when my jokes ain't funny, and they was 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:57.680 laughing at some of that. Ship. Yeah. Now speaking of funny. 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:02.880 So you got this uh movie with uh, the Dion 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:07.680 Taylor movie right next door. It's Cat Williams in that movie. 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:10.720 Cat Williams is in the moment. Okay, shout out to 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:16.680 Deon Taylor out there, black filmmaker. Absolutely absolutely, Uh, Dion 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:20.280 is real good dude, Man, he's doing some great things. Uh. 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:23.200 And you guys, this is your second time working together. 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:26.359 This is the yeah we meet Yeah we didn't meet 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:31.320 the blacks. And then, um, this is actually the second 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:36.880 installment of that movie. This is like, uh, what what 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:39.880 would you say? Now? That was the prequel to house 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:43.079 next door because the original script was called house next door, 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:47.800 but but Dion, we decided to call it meet the Blacks, 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:49.639 so that we could do was second we called a 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:52.480 house next door. So he had all of this plan. 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:54.160 You know what I mean, what she did. I think 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:59.320 he did a great job. Yeah. Absolutely. Man. Recently, Cat 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:03.520 Williams was in the news, he was talking about cancel culture, right, 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:09.320 and he basically said that cancer culture. You know, uh, 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:13.600 it's non existent. He said that, you know, you're allowed 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:16.320 to say whatever it is that you want to say, 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:21.160 and people are allowed to not like whatever it is 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:24.320 that you have to say, right, and so if if 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:27.519 you can't, if you can't take that, if you can't 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:32.760 you know these words that you have. Nobody takes these 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:34.800 words away from you. You can choose to use them. 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:38.960 Are not Yeah, yeah what you think I mean? Do 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:43.720 you think, well, d that they using that as a 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:48.200 control tactic? No, you know what, I really do believe. Yes, 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:51.520 some people are absolutely like to be able to tell 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:55.400 you that, oh this is sensitive if you talk about this, this, this, this, 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:59.640 and and you're somebody that's that has a voice to 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:04.200 control your Absolutely absolutely, it's it's a control tactic for 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:07.280 for many people, but also for some people. You know, 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:12.400 I think it's a teachable moment because for to Cat 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:17.320 Williams point, uh, for a long time, Uh, you know, 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:21.400 this whole cancer culture thing has been rooted in minority 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:29.360 culture really generally. Generally it's uh minorities who uh subjects 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:35.560 subject to insults and slurs, right and so uh so 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:39.080 so now and insults your insults and slurs from people 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:43.039 of privilege and power. Right. So now it's like people 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:45.320 are saying, you know, it's time out for that. We're 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:48.000 gonna check you. You know, if you get out, get 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:50.520 out of pocket, you're gonna get checking and it's gonna 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:53.480 cost you a check. So so I think it's so 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:56.520 so I think it has some some validity to it, 0:04:56.600 --> 0:05:00.520 you know because uh, for instance, I used to you 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:02.919 you know, and I think I can say this word 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:05.279 right now because of the context in which I'm saying it, 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:07.760 But I used to say the word retarded like it 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:10.080 was nothing. You know, we all say that, right, you know, 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:14.440 that's growing up, right. Well, anytime somebody say do something crazy, 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:17.480 then you retarded. Right. Well, I was talking to a 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:19.360 friend of mine one day and she said, you know, 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:22.200 you're not supposed to use that. You shouldn't use that word. 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:24.480 You know, well, it's offensive to people. You know, it's 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:27.279 and you have to think about that. You're like, I 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:29.920 don't mind being offensive to people who I don't like, 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:33.000 in people that I got something against. But if somebody 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:35.520 ain't did nothing to me and they say, you know 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:37.960 what a group of people they look, Man, we don't 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:40.360 like that word. That's offensive to us. I know you 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:43.360 don't understand it, but to us it's offensive. I don't 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:45.159 have to use it. It's not that important for me 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:48.280 to use the yeah, because you already know that it 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:54.240 hurts people exactly, exactly, and and and this is why, uh, 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:57.120 I think people have to even understand what they have 0:05:57.160 --> 0:05:59.800 to understand about the N word. It doesn't matter that 0:05:59.880 --> 0:06:02.599 you grew up using the word, you know, it doesn't 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:07.400 matter that, uh, you know that people around you have 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:10.760 used it and you've heard the word all your It's 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:17.440 offensive to millions and millions of people, And so why 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:21.320 you want to say the words so damn bad? You 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:24.120 don't get anything out of the word except I guess 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:26.920 your your your. I guess you might get a little 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:30.240 pride out of it. I mean, I think that's yeah. Yeah, 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:33.960 it's like it's like it's like it's like segue words 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:36.920 that that we're using the hood. We don't know we're 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:39.800 using them. Right. Um. I grew up in the house 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:46.360 with an uncle that was slow. That was you know, 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:54.200 um uh what do they call it? Man? He was uh. Well, 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:57.040 when we were growing up, bro, that was the word 0:06:57.120 --> 0:06:59.200 that we know. That's not autistic, it's worse than that, 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:05.000 but it's um. And that was the word that we 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:08.120 used to describe my uncle ever since I was, you know, 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:13.520 two years old. He's retarded. Yeah, yeah for real. And 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:17.520 we we didn't we didn't see any harm in it. 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:21.680 And then, like I said, like Will said, when when 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:24.680 we when we got older, we realized that it was 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:29.360 a derogatory term towards someone who was not mentally uh 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:34.560 advanced ignorance something, you know what I mean, like, man, 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:38.920 shut your retarded ass up. You know, like it's offensive. 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:42.960 It's like saying, shut your nigga ass up, now shut 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:46.920 your chinaman? As why do we prosecuted as a as 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:49.520 a as a culture. I mean, this is what we 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:52.040 say to each other and we've been saying it. I 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:55.200 mean it's all broken English anyway, it's all a bunch 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:59.480 of rhetoric anyway, words that I mean, everybody was trying 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:02.000 to figure out where that word came from forever. I 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:06.640 hadn't heard about nine different uh terminologies are where the word? 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:14.120 Then word came from the way came from? Is that 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:17.360 is that in Africa? No, they said they got a 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:19.920 country and they said they got a spot in Africa. 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:25.040 I've seen that in the spelling bead. But they couldn't 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:28.080 it could it could have could uh came from Niger, 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:32.360 you know, energy, the Black River whever, But I know 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:35.600 it was the old mean as. Yeah, but where did 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:39.920 the white boy started calling us nick? Yeah, that's what 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:41.960 I'm saying. Where How did he come up with it 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:48.480 as as something disrespectful? I mean, he came over. It's 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:52.840 a lot of things that that are said by uh, 0:08:53.000 --> 0:09:00.120 those different people that don't like different people that, um, 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:02.640 you know that's the most offensive thing you say about me, 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:06.840 then go ahead, you know, call me. But man if 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:09.839 I run through my motherfucking dictionary and ship, I can 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:13.319 call you. I didn't mean to say m infant, but 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:16.440 excuse me, but I'm just saying it's it's it's it's 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:20.000 it's kind of like playing that doesn't now call me nigger. 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:25.439 But every race inside of the race have racism against 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:29.920 each other. I think. I think Jews call each other words. 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:35.319 Italians probably call each other, yeah, but that's within their culture. 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:39.800 The problem I think that the thing that's problematic about 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:42.800 the N word is that it was a word that 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:46.160 was used to break us down, just to distraught, to 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:49.880 demean us. And we took the word and we used 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:53.000 the word and started using as a word of a 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:57.560 term of in debt for us. Those other words have 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:01.360 always been words that have been a as to these 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:04.480 particular cultures or whatever. So you're right, they do use 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:07.000 other racests. Do you have these terms that they use? 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:09.520 But they use it amongst themselves and they don't see 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:13.000 it publicly. Wow, we are public with it. And what 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:15.360 I'm saying, how was that I was on the golf course. 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:18.600 Was on the golf course that country club I'm talking 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:21.960 about an elite country club here in Houston. It's private, 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:25.000 you know, it's so private to the point where women 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:29.320 can't come on the course at all. Right, Okay, And 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:32.480 I was hitting the balls like I was really kicking, 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:38.560 but on the course, and um, the old white man said, man, 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:42.840 that nigger can't hit that ball right there in my face. 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:54.880 And I was already already shake you back. But but 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:59.760 but I'm not exactly sure. But it would have. I 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:02.160 would had to make some brol though. It's a moral 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:05.000 to get your case on the thought. Now with all 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:12.400 these careens running around, I'm saying, like something like that, 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:17.160 contact by it has to be some contact. But what what? 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:20.480 What ended? What ended the end the story for you? 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:24.040 I told him that I was offending, and he apologized, 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:27.520 and he said that you know Cardi B. And and 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:30.400 and my wife loves Cardig and they all used the 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:34.079 they used an inn word on the songs. And I apologize, Brad, 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:36.680 I didn't know it was that offensive. If you knew 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:39.199 it was that offensive, Cardi B had never been born, 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:43.480 he would have still used that still said hit that 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:47.400 he's probably been saying it. And then and then and then, 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:51.080 you know, sometimes they get so comfortable that they forget 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:53.280 they around us, and especially if they get the drink 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:56.520 and they'd say some ship and then call you the 0:11:56.559 --> 0:12:00.920 next morning and upset. Sometimes I just say, and you 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:02.880 know the best way to heal this up, man is 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:16.560 writ me a little check mane pulled dot paper up. Man, 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:18.600 give me a little money, man. I'm trying to start 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:23.400 something up, man, so I can give back to the man. Man. 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:26.520 It was speaking of giving back. I know these segues. 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:31.640 Let's go to Naptown where it all began, and I 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:33.240 know that you are doing a lot of stuff in 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:35.240 the community, and you do a lot of giving back. 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:37.600 I'm always looking up and you're seeing you involved in 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:43.280 certain charitable events or whatever. Man, how does someone like 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:48.640 Mike Epps who grew up in Gary and Dana where 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:55.559 there's few opportunities as apples. I'm from Naptown. I'm from Naptown, Okay. 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:59.120 But everybody always get it all you know, we it's 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:04.120 in less Indiana. You're from Indiana, Indiana. I know that. 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:12.840 I said that. I said because every time I hear 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:18.880 Naptown Okay, right, No, that's all good. That's all I got. 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:20.839 I got love. I think people get it, but people 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:24.320 get confused sometimes. So it's it's it's people. Yeah, people 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:26.280 ask me all the time. I mean because because at 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:28.320 the end of the day, when if you're from a 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:32.400 state like Indiana, if you're in California and you running, 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:36.200 I run into Freddie Gibbs, he's from g I. It's 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:39.480 like looking at it's like we didn't forgot that we 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:42.560 a hundred miles from each other, you know what I 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:45.319 mean up the road because we were both from Indiana. 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:52.360 Like they don't even matter. You know, that's where the 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:58.920 claimed arrived from, right there, They from Gary and Indianapo's Indiana? Indiana? 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:02.440 Is that right? Is it? Is it a spooky uh 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:06.000 vibe up there? Like to stay there for like permanently 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:09.560 because I've been there, you know, nice, nice place to visit. 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:12.679 It wouldn't want to live that type type of thing. Well, 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:17.240 you know what, um over the years, it's gotten better 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:22.400 because and I always credited hip hop because hip hop 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:30.600 made uh that younger generation of clansmen huh they became Yeah, 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:33.880 because all of the guys that were clansmen, believe it 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:37.320 or not, their granddaughters are white and they got babies 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:42.080 by black people. I'm talking. Yeah, it's crazy. They didn't 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:44.480 had articles and all kinds of stuff up there where. 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:50.000 This guy disowned his daughter because she wouldn't have had 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:54.880 his granddaughter had a kid by a black kid. And 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:57.520 her Yeah, her dad, her granddaddy was a grand pool 0:14:57.560 --> 0:15:01.920 by you know, what I mean. But but I mean, 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:04.800 it's it's just like anywhere else man. You know, you 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:07.720 you got a section of black people that live amongst 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:11.680 each other, and everything else is is ruled by that, 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:17.520 you know, and they keep reminding you, Mike Pence, all 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:20.600 of that. I mean, I wouldn't say that he was 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:24.440 a clansman, but in that town, you can tell that 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:30.320 there's certain the the white people in that town they 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:33.880 move like that, They move like you know, I don't 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:37.200 know a clansman personally, but you know what it is. No, 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:41.600 you know, some clansmen personally told you who they are. 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.360 That's right now. They know they might not know him 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:48.520 at all. They just programmed that, just like sometimes white 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:51.440 people look at you like their programmed too, to look 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:54.320 at you, like what are you doing around here? You 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:57.200 know what I mean? They just programmed, just like all 0:15:57.280 --> 0:16:01.840 of them are the cops, ye say. I always say 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:08.120 that white people, all white people are deputized, deputized to 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:23.320 be police officers. The absolutely I'm calling the coups, Mike. 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:27.400 I still want to get back to like the psychology 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:35.440 of you getting out of Gary, Indiana. I mean in Indianapolis, Indianapolis, Indiana, 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:40.440 it is a very very tough, tall task. Right, How 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:42.640 real did you think your chances were? You know, you 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:46.040 wanted to be a comedian at what age? I mean, 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:49.360 I was telling jokes before I became a comedian. I 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:51.120 didn't know that I was doing it though. I was 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:54.000 just living my regular life, you know, wherever I was at, 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:57.000 you know, killing them boys in the hood. Yeah, and 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:00.360 at the end of the day, you know, I'm one. 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:04.359 That meant I grew up a skinny like fair skinny 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:08.080 kid and the ghetto. That ain't easy, you know what 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:12.440 I mean, Because because you gotta fight your way through everything. 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:17.080 So comedy became a way from me to I navigated 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:19.879 through the hood. I ended up navigating through jail. Wherever 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:23.720 I was at, I had a personality that you know 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:26.320 that lit up the room and I could survive through it, 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:30.960 you know. So it really was my survival that became 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:33.879 an art for me, you know what I mean. Like, 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:36.480 But how real did you think your chances were to 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:39.320 actually get out of that? But you've seen so many 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:42.200 people that did the exact same thing, that came exactly 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:45.200 from where you came from. But you found a way 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:49.280 to get out out get what inspired you? Like, really 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:51.600 to get out and make it. What made you say, man, 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:54.879 I'm gonna make it? I got it? I was, I was. 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:59.399 I had an imagination. And I tell kids all the 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:02.639 time and don't have an imagination. You can't dream. You can't. 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:05.080 You can't. You gotta be able to see some ship, 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:11.159 pre pre pre everything before everybody. It's gotta be in you. 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:16.800 And I had an imagination of me being something, you 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:18.760 know what I mean. I couldn't figure out what it was. 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:22.000 So when I found out it was comedy, I was like, Man, 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:26.000 I'm only something because I grew up watching kingpins and 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:29.160 drug dealers, and I'm like, damn, man, I didn't try 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:32.000 to sell dope and anything. I cannot become a kingpin 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:35.680 for nothing in the world. Like I'm serious. I was 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:38.520 the worst drug dealing in the world. I had everybody 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:40.960 in that, all the old g niggas. The only reason 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:42.840 why they didn't kill me is because they liked me. 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:45.240 They ushould tell me all time, boy, you better be 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:48.080 glad I like you. You know what I mean? Because Nick, 0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:49.720 you even ran off of my money. I had a 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:53.000 gambling habit and I was selling dope. I was hustling backwards. 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:55.720 You know what I mean, I didn't shot dice with 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:59.280 these niggas and lost my money, the front man's money. 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:02.120 So the time I left in Annapolis man our old 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:04.600 couple of niggas, money and all kind of ship, I said, 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:07.000 I gotta go make it at something, you know. I 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:12.399 got on a bus in nineteen uh ninety one with 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:18.960 my sister. Gave me eighty five dollars book of food stamps. 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:22.679 Remember them food steps it was in the book had 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:29.399 blue fives. She gave me some food steps and I 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:33.480 had eighty five dollars and uh, and I bought me 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:35.600 a I bought me a bus ticket and my my 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:39.239 first baby mom and her lived in Atlanta. And I 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:41.960 called her. I said, Janet, you know every time you 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:45.080 come to Indianapolis, you say, you know, if you ever 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:47.879 want to move to Atlanta, come to Atlanta. Man. I 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:50.160 called her. I said, I want, I'm ready to come 0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:52.439 to Atlanta. She said, Mike, some things didn't change. I 0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:55.960 said what she said, I'm married now, and you know 0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:58.800 I don't live by myself. Do you know that? I 0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:01.119 told her okay, and I still got on the bus. 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:03.760 I got on the Greyhound bus and by the time 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:06.399 I got to Chattanooga, Tennessee. At the ground of niggas 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:08.840 that took my clock. I swear I'll never forget. I 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:13.280 had cross colored jeans and major damage. You remember cross 0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:15.159 cut on the man. I had all this gear in 0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:17.359 my bag by the time I got to chat A 0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:19.119 look of the nicktas that took my look at that, 0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:23.800 I said, I said the words yeah, but I forgot 0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:29.560 ween on the corner. But I said, they took my bag. Man. 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:31.840 When I got and I had, I ain't gonna lie. 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:34.679 I had a thirty eight that was broke. It was 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:38.680 fucked up, and it's it's skilled and motherucker shot like it. 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:44.440 Click click pole click click Clickin was skipping on him 0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:46.719 on the mother By the time I got and I 0:20:46.720 --> 0:20:49.360 had to walk. By the time I got to Georgia, 0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:51.800 I Carter, it was three o'clock in the morning. I said, Janet, 0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:55.120 I'm in Atlanta and she said, what you bullshit? I said, 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:57.680 I'm in Atlanta. She said, where you at? I said, 0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:00.000 I'm at the Greyhound bus that she said, Mike, I talked, 0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:03.679 told you I'm married. I can't handle you know, I said, Janey, 0:21:04.480 --> 0:21:07.200 I'm gonna stay in the greyhound bus station. But when 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:09.880 when you get up in the morning, if you come 0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:13.359 and pick me up and take me to the Salvation Army, 0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:16.119 I stay in the Salvation Army. I get a cot. 0:21:16.440 --> 0:21:20.440 That's how serious I was about being somebody and changing 0:21:20.520 --> 0:21:23.080 my life. She said, I'll be there in the morning. 0:21:23.119 --> 0:21:26.080 She can't pick me up. Were riding. I had never 0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:28.280 been out of my hometown other than going to the 0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:31.960 joint on like the outside Westville stuff like that. When 0:21:31.960 --> 0:21:35.040 I seen Atlanta and seen all them buildings, I said, damn, 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:37.199 you know, it was crazy to see that. It was 0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:39.600 like a city to me because I had never seen 0:21:39.600 --> 0:21:41.840 a city like the other in Chicago. That's a lie. 0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:44.159 I've went to being in Chicago a million times, but 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:47.240 I was in Atlanta. Atlanta was I thought Atlanta was 0:21:47.320 --> 0:21:50.240 Hollywood back in the day when it freak nicking them 0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:52.920 and stuff like. People was moving to Atlanta like they 0:21:52.960 --> 0:21:55.679 was going down there to blow up. I moved to 0:21:55.680 --> 0:21:58.520 Atlanta instead of going to New York l a man, 0:21:58.520 --> 0:22:00.359 I've seen this city, man, And we were right. And 0:22:00.520 --> 0:22:02.720 she said, you know what, I can't take you down there. 0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:05.119 She said, you can come and stay with me, but 0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:08.320 you gotta stay in the basement. My husband go to work. 0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:11.560 He worked second shift three to eleven. You can't come 0:22:11.560 --> 0:22:14.679 out of the basement at the three. I'm down in 0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:17.480 that basement like and Frank, you remember, And Frank was 0:22:17.520 --> 0:22:21.080 with the Germans and shipping it. Man, I'm down in 0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:24.280 the basement. Man. So he didn't know you was living 0:22:24.320 --> 0:22:25.800 in the house now he was. Yeah, he was an 0:22:25.800 --> 0:22:27.600 old g He was an old player. He worked for 0:22:27.600 --> 0:22:29.480 the city, worked for the city of Landing, but he 0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:32.159 was a hustler too. He was older, dude, you know 0:22:32.200 --> 0:22:34.399 what I mean. Nope, didn't know that I was staying 0:22:34.359 --> 0:22:36.240 in that house. I stayed and stayed down there for 0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:39.480 about twenty days. Man. One day he didn't go to work. 0:22:41.640 --> 0:22:43.640 I come up about I swear to God, I come 0:22:43.680 --> 0:22:46.439 up out the out the basement with a bowl of 0:22:46.480 --> 0:22:49.720 cereal and my drawers on this old niggers standing there 0:22:49.760 --> 0:22:52.680 washing this is turned around and look his neigh was Sittney. 0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:55.280 He turned around to me and said, think what you're 0:22:55.280 --> 0:22:58.840 doing about? And man, I sit down and talk to him. 0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:01.880 Told him who would because he called Janet. I said, 0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:04.719 I'm Janet's nephew, and blah blah blah. He called her right, 0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:06.439 he called because she worked for the city too. He 0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:08.120 called her at the job. He said, who was his nigga? 0:23:08.400 --> 0:23:10.520 And she told him and I sit down and told him. 0:23:10.640 --> 0:23:13.639 I said, man, I had to leave my hometown. I said, 0:23:13.800 --> 0:23:17.520 I told him, Mr Sydney, the streets wasn't for me. 0:23:17.600 --> 0:23:22.080 Man I called three cases back to back. I called, 0:23:22.200 --> 0:23:24.760 I called a dope case and called a case why 0:23:24.840 --> 0:23:32.560 I was, Yeah, I on pro not on probation was 0:23:32.600 --> 0:23:35.679 on bard. I called another case. I said, man, I 0:23:35.720 --> 0:23:37.359 had to get the funk up out of that city 0:23:37.359 --> 0:23:40.000 because they was spinning. Give me the bitch with crambine. 0:23:40.040 --> 0:23:41.680 You know they got that three They called it a 0:23:41.720 --> 0:23:44.359 bitch wood up there, three strikes. I said, I gotta 0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:47.000 get the fun up out of here. And uh, I said, 0:23:47.040 --> 0:23:50.080 down with him and talk to him. I lived with 0:23:50.160 --> 0:23:51.880 him for a whole year. He got me a job 0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:56.000 at the city and I start when that That's when 0:23:56.040 --> 0:23:58.600 I when I first got to Atlanta, I went to 0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:02.000 the Uptown Comedy Club. It was in Atlanta on Pea 0:24:02.040 --> 0:24:03.840 Street Street. How long did it take you to go 0:24:03.880 --> 0:24:07.120 there before? When you got to Atlanta? The next week 0:24:07.240 --> 0:24:09.520 and when I walked in the club, Willie d Nigger, 0:24:09.560 --> 0:24:13.720 I seen Chris Tucker, Bruce Bruce. It was a dude 0:24:13.800 --> 0:24:16.679 named Chris I seen and them dudes have been on 0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:19.320 death comedy jam. So when I seen him, I'm like 0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:24.640