1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Get up, get the boys. It's back and rehoaded all 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: in your mind. Yeah, not deep throating. This is for 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: the streets, the reel, the railroaded, the distant franchise, the 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: truth escapegoating, and they ain't knowing we speak the truth, 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 1: so they ain't quoted because we wrote it. The North 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: South East coat is the gv MY for keeping your 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: head bobbing. It ain't no stopping and wants to be 8 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: dry to head by And then the system is so 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 1: corrupt they throw the rock out of their heads and 10 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: then blame it on us. Don't get it twisted on 11 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 1: code and me and dancing for no buttoment biscuits. It's 12 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: Willie d y'all scar facing the building. Collectively we are 13 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 1: the ghettold boys, reloaded with another episode of information and 14 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: instructions to help you get through this crazy, wild, beautiful world. 15 00:00:55,680 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: I guess today Mike Epps for something big Willie, Hey King, 16 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: how you doing? They an't good to see you, brother, 17 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: all right, So we got some house cleaning to do 18 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: real quick. Some scar face is in the building, but 19 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: he's having some issues right now. So but he'll he'll, he'll, 20 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: he'll join us momentarily now Man, you're back in your element. 21 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: You're back on stage, back doing what you do. I 22 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 1: feel it feels pretty good, you know. I guess because 23 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 1: of the pandemic. The people are so receptive to everything. 24 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: They like. They they're so excited to be out. So 25 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: you know, we we we had a show over the 26 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 1: Toyota Center last night. Man, and the people were just man, 27 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: I mean, they was laughing at some stuff. I'm like, Damn, 28 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: I know that wasn't funny, you know what I mean. 29 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: I know when my jokes ain't funny, and they was 30 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: laughing at some of that. Ship. Yeah. Now speaking of funny. 31 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: So you got this uh movie with uh, the Dion 32 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: Taylor movie right next door. It's Cat Williams in that movie. 33 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: Cat Williams is in the moment. Okay, shout out to 34 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: Deon Taylor out there, black filmmaker. Absolutely absolutely, Uh, Dion 35 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: is real good dude, Man, he's doing some great things. Uh. 36 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: And you guys, this is your second time working together. 37 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: This is the yeah we meet Yeah we didn't meet 38 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: the blacks. And then, um, this is actually the second 39 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: installment of that movie. This is like, uh, what what 40 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: would you say? Now? That was the prequel to house 41 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: next door because the original script was called house next door, 42 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: but but Dion, we decided to call it meet the Blacks, 43 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: so that we could do was second we called a 44 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: house next door. So he had all of this plan. 45 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, what she did. I think 46 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: he did a great job. Yeah. Absolutely. Man. Recently, Cat 47 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: Williams was in the news, he was talking about cancel culture, right, 48 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: and he basically said that cancer culture. You know, uh, 49 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: it's non existent. He said that, you know, you're allowed 50 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: to say whatever it is that you want to say, 51 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: and people are allowed to not like whatever it is 52 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: that you have to say, right, and so if if 53 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 1: you can't, if you can't take that, if you can't 54 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: you know these words that you have. Nobody takes these 55 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: words away from you. You can choose to use them. 56 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: Are not Yeah, yeah what you think I mean? Do 57 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: you think, well, d that they using that as a 58 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: control tactic? No, you know what, I really do believe. Yes, 59 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: some people are absolutely like to be able to tell 60 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: you that, oh this is sensitive if you talk about this, this, this, this, 61 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: and and you're somebody that's that has a voice to 62 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: control your Absolutely absolutely, it's it's a control tactic for 63 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: for many people, but also for some people. You know, 64 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: I think it's a teachable moment because for to Cat 65 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: Williams point, uh, for a long time, Uh, you know, 66 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: this whole cancer culture thing has been rooted in minority 67 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: culture really generally. Generally it's uh minorities who uh subjects 68 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: subject to insults and slurs, right and so uh so 69 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: so now and insults your insults and slurs from people 70 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: of privilege and power. Right. So now it's like people 71 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: are saying, you know, it's time out for that. We're 72 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: gonna check you. You know, if you get out, get 73 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: out of pocket, you're gonna get checking and it's gonna 74 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: cost you a check. So so I think it's so 75 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: so I think it has some some validity to it, 76 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: you know because uh, for instance, I used to you 77 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 1: you know, and I think I can say this word 78 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: right now because of the context in which I'm saying it, 79 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: But I used to say the word retarded like it 80 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: was nothing. You know, we all say that, right, you know, 81 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: that's growing up, right. Well, anytime somebody say do something crazy, 82 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: then you retarded. Right. Well, I was talking to a 83 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: friend of mine one day and she said, you know, 84 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: you're not supposed to use that. You shouldn't use that word. 85 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: You know, well, it's offensive to people. You know, it's 86 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: and you have to think about that. You're like, I 87 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: don't mind being offensive to people who I don't like, 88 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: in people that I got something against. But if somebody 89 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: ain't did nothing to me and they say, you know 90 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: what a group of people they look, Man, we don't 91 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: like that word. That's offensive to us. I know you 92 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: don't understand it, but to us it's offensive. I don't 93 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: have to use it. It's not that important for me 94 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: to use the yeah, because you already know that it 95 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: hurts people exactly, exactly, and and and this is why, uh, 96 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: I think people have to even understand what they have 97 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: to understand about the N word. It doesn't matter that 98 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: you grew up using the word, you know, it doesn't 99 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: matter that, uh, you know that people around you have 100 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: used it and you've heard the word all your It's 101 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: offensive to millions and millions of people, And so why 102 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: you want to say the words so damn bad? You 103 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: don't get anything out of the word except I guess 104 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: your your your. I guess you might get a little 105 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: pride out of it. I mean, I think that's yeah. Yeah, 106 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: it's like it's like it's like it's like segue words 107 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: that that we're using the hood. We don't know we're 108 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: using them. Right. Um. I grew up in the house 109 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: with an uncle that was slow. That was you know, 110 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: um uh what do they call it? Man? He was uh. Well, 111 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: when we were growing up, bro, that was the word 112 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: that we know. That's not autistic, it's worse than that, 113 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: but it's um. And that was the word that we 114 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: used to describe my uncle ever since I was, you know, 115 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: two years old. He's retarded. Yeah, yeah for real. And 116 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: we we didn't we didn't see any harm in it. 117 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: And then, like I said, like Will said, when when 118 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: we when we got older, we realized that it was 119 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: a derogatory term towards someone who was not mentally uh 120 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: advanced ignorance something, you know what I mean, like, man, 121 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: shut your retarded ass up. You know, like it's offensive. 122 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: It's like saying, shut your nigga ass up, now shut 123 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: your chinaman? As why do we prosecuted as a as 124 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: a as a culture. I mean, this is what we 125 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: say to each other and we've been saying it. I 126 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: mean it's all broken English anyway, it's all a bunch 127 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: of rhetoric anyway, words that I mean, everybody was trying 128 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: to figure out where that word came from forever. I 129 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: hadn't heard about nine different uh terminologies are where the word? 130 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: Then word came from the way came from? Is that 131 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: is that in Africa? No, they said they got a 132 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: country and they said they got a spot in Africa. 133 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: I've seen that in the spelling bead. But they couldn't 134 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: it could it could have could uh came from Niger, 135 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: you know, energy, the Black River whever, But I know 136 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: it was the old mean as. Yeah, but where did 137 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: the white boy started calling us nick? Yeah, that's what 138 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Where How did he come up with it 139 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: as as something disrespectful? I mean, he came over. It's 140 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: a lot of things that that are said by uh, 141 00:08:53,000 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: those different people that don't like different people that, um, 142 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: you know that's the most offensive thing you say about me, 143 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: then go ahead, you know, call me. But man if 144 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 1: I run through my motherfucking dictionary and ship, I can 145 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 1: call you. I didn't mean to say m infant, but 146 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: excuse me, but I'm just saying it's it's it's it's 147 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: it's kind of like playing that doesn't now call me nigger. 148 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 1: But every race inside of the race have racism against 149 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: each other. I think. I think Jews call each other words. 150 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: Italians probably call each other, yeah, but that's within their culture. 151 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: The problem I think that the thing that's problematic about 152 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: the N word is that it was a word that 153 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: was used to break us down, just to distraught, to 154 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: demean us. And we took the word and we used 155 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: the word and started using as a word of a 156 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: term of in debt for us. Those other words have 157 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: always been words that have been a as to these 158 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: particular cultures or whatever. So you're right, they do use 159 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: other racests. Do you have these terms that they use? 160 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: But they use it amongst themselves and they don't see 161 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: it publicly. Wow, we are public with it. And what 162 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: I'm saying, how was that I was on the golf course. 163 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: Was on the golf course that country club I'm talking 164 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: about an elite country club here in Houston. It's private, 165 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's so private to the point where women 166 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: can't come on the course at all. Right, Okay, And 167 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: I was hitting the balls like I was really kicking, 168 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: but on the course, and um, the old white man said, man, 169 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: that nigger can't hit that ball right there in my face. 170 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: And I was already already shake you back. But but 171 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: but I'm not exactly sure. But it would have. I 172 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: would had to make some brol though. It's a moral 173 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: to get your case on the thought. Now with all 174 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: these careens running around, I'm saying, like something like that, 175 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: contact by it has to be some contact. But what what? 176 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: What ended? What ended the end the story for you? 177 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: I told him that I was offending, and he apologized, 178 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: and he said that you know Cardi B. And and 179 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: and my wife loves Cardig and they all used the 180 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 1: they used an inn word on the songs. And I apologize, Brad, 181 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: I didn't know it was that offensive. If you knew 182 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 1: it was that offensive, Cardi B had never been born, 183 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: he would have still used that still said hit that 184 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: he's probably been saying it. And then and then and then, 185 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes they get so comfortable that they forget 186 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: they around us, and especially if they get the drink 187 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: and they'd say some ship and then call you the 188 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: next morning and upset. Sometimes I just say, and you 189 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: know the best way to heal this up, man is 190 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: writ me a little check mane pulled dot paper up. Man, 191 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: give me a little money, man. I'm trying to start 192 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: something up, man, so I can give back to the man. Man. 193 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: It was speaking of giving back. I know these segues. 194 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: Let's go to Naptown where it all began, and I 195 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: know that you are doing a lot of stuff in 196 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: the community, and you do a lot of giving back. 197 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: I'm always looking up and you're seeing you involved in 198 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: certain charitable events or whatever. Man, how does someone like 199 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: Mike Epps who grew up in Gary and Dana where 200 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 1: there's few opportunities as apples. I'm from Naptown. I'm from Naptown, Okay. 201 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: But everybody always get it all you know, we it's 202 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: in less Indiana. You're from Indiana, Indiana. I know that. 203 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: I said that. I said because every time I hear 204 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: Naptown Okay, right, No, that's all good. That's all I got. 205 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 1: I got love. I think people get it, but people 206 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: get confused sometimes. So it's it's it's people. Yeah, people 207 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: ask me all the time. I mean because because at 208 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: the end of the day, when if you're from a 209 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: state like Indiana, if you're in California and you running, 210 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: I run into Freddie Gibbs, he's from g I. It's 211 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: like looking at it's like we didn't forgot that we 212 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: a hundred miles from each other, you know what I 213 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 1: mean up the road because we were both from Indiana. 214 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: Like they don't even matter. You know, that's where the 215 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: claimed arrived from, right there, They from Gary and Indianapo's Indiana? Indiana? 216 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: Is that right? Is it? Is it a spooky uh 217 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: vibe up there? Like to stay there for like permanently 218 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: because I've been there, you know, nice, nice place to visit. 219 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: It wouldn't want to live that type type of thing. Well, 220 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: you know what, um over the years, it's gotten better 221 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: because and I always credited hip hop because hip hop 222 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: made uh that younger generation of clansmen huh they became Yeah, 223 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: because all of the guys that were clansmen, believe it 224 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: or not, their granddaughters are white and they got babies 225 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: by black people. I'm talking. Yeah, it's crazy. They didn't 226 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: had articles and all kinds of stuff up there where. 227 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: This guy disowned his daughter because she wouldn't have had 228 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: his granddaughter had a kid by a black kid. And 229 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: her Yeah, her dad, her granddaddy was a grand pool 230 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: by you know, what I mean. But but I mean, 231 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: it's it's just like anywhere else man. You know, you 232 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: you got a section of black people that live amongst 233 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: each other, and everything else is is ruled by that, 234 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: you know, and they keep reminding you, Mike Pence, all 235 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: of that. I mean, I wouldn't say that he was 236 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: a clansman, but in that town, you can tell that 237 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: there's certain the the white people in that town they 238 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: move like that, They move like you know, I don't 239 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: know a clansman personally, but you know what it is. No, 240 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: you know, some clansmen personally told you who they are. 241 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: That's right now. They know they might not know him 242 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: at all. They just programmed that, just like sometimes white 243 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: people look at you like their programmed too, to look 244 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: at you, like what are you doing around here? You 245 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: know what I mean? They just programmed, just like all 246 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: of them are the cops, ye say. I always say 247 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: that white people, all white people are deputized, deputized to 248 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: be police officers. The absolutely I'm calling the coups, Mike. 249 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: I still want to get back to like the psychology 250 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: of you getting out of Gary, Indiana. I mean in Indianapolis, Indianapolis, Indiana, 251 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: it is a very very tough, tall task. Right, How 252 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: real did you think your chances were? You know, you 253 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: wanted to be a comedian at what age? I mean, 254 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: I was telling jokes before I became a comedian. I 255 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: didn't know that I was doing it though. I was 256 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: just living my regular life, you know, wherever I was at, 257 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: you know, killing them boys in the hood. Yeah, and 258 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you know, I'm one. 259 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: That meant I grew up a skinny like fair skinny 260 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: kid and the ghetto. That ain't easy, you know what 261 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: I mean, Because because you gotta fight your way through everything. 262 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: So comedy became a way from me to I navigated 263 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: through the hood. I ended up navigating through jail. Wherever 264 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: I was at, I had a personality that you know 265 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: that lit up the room and I could survive through it, 266 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: you know. So it really was my survival that became 267 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: an art for me, you know what I mean. Like, 268 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: But how real did you think your chances were to 269 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: actually get out of that? But you've seen so many 270 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: people that did the exact same thing, that came exactly 271 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: from where you came from. But you found a way 272 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: to get out out get what inspired you? Like, really 273 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: to get out and make it. What made you say, man, 274 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it? I got it? I was, I was. 275 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: I had an imagination. And I tell kids all the 276 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: time and don't have an imagination. You can't dream. You can't. 277 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: You can't. You gotta be able to see some ship, 278 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 1: pre pre pre everything before everybody. It's gotta be in you. 279 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: And I had an imagination of me being something, you 280 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I couldn't figure out what it was. 281 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: So when I found out it was comedy, I was like, Man, 282 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: I'm only something because I grew up watching kingpins and 283 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: drug dealers, and I'm like, damn, man, I didn't try 284 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: to sell dope and anything. I cannot become a kingpin 285 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: for nothing in the world. Like I'm serious. I was 286 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: the worst drug dealing in the world. I had everybody 287 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: in that, all the old g niggas. The only reason 288 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: why they didn't kill me is because they liked me. 289 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: They ushould tell me all time, boy, you better be 290 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: glad I like you. You know what I mean? Because Nick, 291 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: you even ran off of my money. I had a 292 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: gambling habit and I was selling dope. I was hustling backwards. 293 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, I didn't shot dice with 294 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: these niggas and lost my money, the front man's money. 295 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 1: So the time I left in Annapolis man our old 296 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: couple of niggas, money and all kind of ship, I said, 297 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: I gotta go make it at something, you know. I 298 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: got on a bus in nineteen uh ninety one with 299 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: my sister. Gave me eighty five dollars book of food stamps. 300 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 1: Remember them food steps it was in the book had 301 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 1: blue fives. She gave me some food steps and I 302 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: had eighty five dollars and uh, and I bought me 303 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: a I bought me a bus ticket and my my 304 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,239 Speaker 1: first baby mom and her lived in Atlanta. And I 305 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: called her. I said, Janet, you know every time you 306 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: come to Indianapolis, you say, you know, if you ever 307 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: want to move to Atlanta, come to Atlanta. Man. I 308 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: called her. I said, I want, I'm ready to come 309 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 1: to Atlanta. She said, Mike, some things didn't change. I 310 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: said what she said, I'm married now, and you know 311 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: I don't live by myself. Do you know that? I 312 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: told her okay, and I still got on the bus. 313 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: I got on the Greyhound bus and by the time 314 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: I got to Chattanooga, Tennessee. At the ground of niggas 315 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: that took my clock. I swear I'll never forget. I 316 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: had cross colored jeans and major damage. You remember cross 317 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: cut on the man. I had all this gear in 318 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: my bag by the time I got to chat A 319 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: look of the nicktas that took my look at that, 320 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: I said, I said the words yeah, but I forgot 321 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: ween on the corner. But I said, they took my bag. Man. 322 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: When I got and I had, I ain't gonna lie. 323 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: I had a thirty eight that was broke. It was 324 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: fucked up, and it's it's skilled and motherucker shot like it. 325 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: Click click pole click click Clickin was skipping on him 326 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,719 Speaker 1: on the mother By the time I got and I 327 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 1: had to walk. By the time I got to Georgia, 328 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: I Carter, it was three o'clock in the morning. I said, Janet, 329 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: I'm in Atlanta and she said, what you bullshit? I said, 330 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: I'm in Atlanta. She said, where you at? I said, 331 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: I'm at the Greyhound bus that she said, Mike, I talked, 332 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: told you I'm married. I can't handle you know, I said, Janey, 333 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay in the greyhound bus station. But when 334 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: when you get up in the morning, if you come 335 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: and pick me up and take me to the Salvation Army, 336 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: I stay in the Salvation Army. I get a cot. 337 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: That's how serious I was about being somebody and changing 338 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: my life. She said, I'll be there in the morning. 339 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: She can't pick me up. Were riding. I had never 340 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: been out of my hometown other than going to the 341 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: joint on like the outside Westville stuff like that. When 342 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: I seen Atlanta and seen all them buildings, I said, damn, 343 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 1: you know, it was crazy to see that. It was 344 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: like a city to me because I had never seen 345 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: a city like the other in Chicago. That's a lie. 346 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: I've went to being in Chicago a million times, but 347 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: I was in Atlanta. Atlanta was I thought Atlanta was 348 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: Hollywood back in the day when it freak nicking them 349 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: and stuff like. People was moving to Atlanta like they 350 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 1: was going down there to blow up. I moved to 351 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: Atlanta instead of going to New York l a man, 352 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: I've seen this city, man, And we were right. And 353 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: she said, you know what, I can't take you down there. 354 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: She said, you can come and stay with me, but 355 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: you gotta stay in the basement. My husband go to work. 356 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: He worked second shift three to eleven. You can't come 357 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 1: out of the basement at the three. I'm down in 358 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: that basement like and Frank, you remember, And Frank was 359 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: with the Germans and shipping it. Man, I'm down in 360 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: the basement. Man. So he didn't know you was living 361 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: in the house now he was. Yeah, he was an 362 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: old g He was an old player. He worked for 363 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: the city, worked for the city of Landing, but he 364 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: was a hustler too. He was older, dude, you know 365 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: what I mean. Nope, didn't know that I was staying 366 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: in that house. I stayed and stayed down there for 367 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: about twenty days. Man. One day he didn't go to work. 368 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 1: I come up about I swear to God, I come 369 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 1: up out the out the basement with a bowl of 370 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: cereal and my drawers on this old niggers standing there 371 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: washing this is turned around and look his neigh was Sittney. 372 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: He turned around to me and said, think what you're 373 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: doing about? And man, I sit down and talk to him. 374 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: Told him who would because he called Janet. I said, 375 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,719 Speaker 1: I'm Janet's nephew, and blah blah blah. He called her right, 376 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 1: he called because she worked for the city too. He 377 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 1: called her at the job. He said, who was his nigga? 378 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: And she told him and I sit down and told him. 379 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: I said, man, I had to leave my hometown. I said, 380 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: I told him, Mr Sydney, the streets wasn't for me. 381 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: Man I called three cases back to back. I called, 382 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: I called a dope case and called a case why 383 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: I was, Yeah, I on pro not on probation was 384 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 1: on bard. I called another case. I said, man, I 385 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: had to get the funk up out of that city 386 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: because they was spinning. Give me the bitch with crambine. 387 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: You know they got that three They called it a 388 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: bitch wood up there, three strikes. I said, I gotta 389 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: get the fun up out of here. And uh, I said, 390 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: down with him and talk to him. I lived with 391 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 1: him for a whole year. He got me a job 392 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: at the city and I start when that That's when 393 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: I when I first got to Atlanta, I went to 394 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: the Uptown Comedy Club. It was in Atlanta on Pea 395 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: Street Street. How long did it take you to go 396 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 1: there before? When you got to Atlanta? The next week 397 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: and when I walked in the club, Willie d Nigger, 398 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: I seen Chris Tucker, Bruce Bruce. It was a dude 399 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 1: named Chris I seen and them dudes have been on 400 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: death comedy jam. So when I seen him, I'm like 401 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: that I made it. I thought I was in Hollywood 402 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: because I seen Chris Tuck. This is the young Chris 403 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: did nothing but death jam. Don't none of them remember 404 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 1: me walking up to him. I walked up to every 405 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: last one of them, Nix, you know what I mean. 406 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: None of them remember that ship. But that's how I 407 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: made it. Man. And and I met T. K. Kirkland. 408 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: He said yeah, he said, yeah, homie, you ain't gonna 409 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: make it in Hollywood unless you moved to Hollywood. And 410 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 1: I was like, damn, so I'm in the wrong. Motherfucker's spoty. 411 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: He's like yeah, he said, oh, you can go to 412 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: New York and uh, you know, really really learned how 413 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: to do stand up with you know, because you're still 414 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: kind of green. Nick. I got on a bus the 415 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: next week with fifteen hundred dollars I have been working 416 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: at the city and got my text checked back. I 417 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: had three comics that wanted to go with me, and 418 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 1: I was the only one that got on. I got 419 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 1: on the bus again, went to New York. I end 420 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: up living in New York for ten years. God damn. 421 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: So how when you got to New York with which 422 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 1: don't go far anywhere, but especially in New York, how 423 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: did you make that happen? Man? I had T K. 424 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: Kirkland had a manager name Dave Kleiman, and and by 425 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 1: the way, shots at the T K. Kirkin who was 426 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: responsible for a whole lot of people getting on and 427 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: giving people guy it. He got banned back in the 428 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 1: day they said he stole Eddie Murphy's watched and ship 429 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: you heard they said he stole Eddie Murphy's watching. I 430 00:25:55,000 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: think he said he stole it. Yeah, yeah, But anyway, 431 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: they banned him on some bullshit. But for for the 432 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: most part, he was a solid dude and a nice guy. 433 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: Put put on a lot of young guys. And uh. 434 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: He had a manager named Dave Kleinman that was a 435 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: Jewish guy that managed Sandric Bullock and any Michael Hall 436 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: and all of them. He lived in New York. So, um, 437 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 1: that's who I was gonna contact when I got there. 438 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 1: And another for instance, where I went and just moved 439 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: somewhere and somebody told me that they ain't tell me 440 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: to come and nothing but see in my mind, listen 441 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: to this, Willie and Scarf, this is some crazy ship. 442 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: When I caught that last case, I called a case, 443 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: I called a case. While I was dealing with the case, 444 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: I end up doing two years in the county jail, 445 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: and they gave me time to serve on it. I 446 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: had an A dealing in a C possession. They dropped 447 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 1: the dealing because the dude who set me up was 448 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: a dope thing. They couldn't find him to get him 449 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: back in court to testify against me. So I end 450 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: up doing time serve on the class C. Did the 451 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: two years and got out. And that's when I left 452 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: the town. When I left the town and I got 453 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 1: away in my head because when I was sitting in 454 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: the county jail, I said, if they let me out 455 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: on bond, I'm going on the run. I'd already had 456 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: it in my mind. And I knew niggas that was federal, 457 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: federal future, this before and all that. Niggas told me 458 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: stories they was running. So I said, nigger, I'm running, nigga. 459 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 1: So when I got out and everything worked out, I said, 460 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: in my mind, I'm gonna play like I'm on the 461 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: run nigga, And that's how I lived my life. So 462 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: when I got to you know what I mean, When 463 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: I got to Port Authority, I had that fifteen hundred 464 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 1: dollars man I and I'm in New York and I'm 465 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: I'm boy. I walked up and I'm looking at Port, 466 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: the skyscrapers, people everywhere, bus it's moving. As soon as 467 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: I walked the Time Square, I ran into a slick 468 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: nigger that was playing that three card molly. Yeah he 469 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: didn't have three carne. Gave him some money. Man, I'm 470 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: sitting eating Corney Halls and ship ran into this slick nigga, 471 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 1: this nigga, and man, that nigga beat me out about 472 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: the little nigga ran. He I'll never forget he ran 473 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: and I couldn't catch you. Man, that nigga ran. But 474 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: it was New York City. Yeah, I couldn't catch him, 475 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: and I was running through people and everything. Little bit 476 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: him up for Puerto Rican motherfucker, and it was a 477 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: crowd of people. He let me win one time, and 478 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: I one and another girl that he was with walked 479 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: up and one I said, got me. But anyway, I 480 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: end up living that you're down to a stack. What 481 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: you do with this stack? How do you get some residents? 482 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: What happened they had on on the West Side Highway 483 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: in New York back in the nineties late eighties. They had, 484 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: uh a bunch of role hotels, you know what I mean, 485 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: and then the hotel's West Side Highway back in the day, 486 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: it was pimping over there. Man. It was prostitutes and uh, 487 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: transvestile all kind of shipped on that street. It was. 488 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: It was it was the meat pack that's crazy, you 489 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: said that, That's what it was. It was. It was 490 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: in that area down that warehouse area where Morvy is 491 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: and all that. And they had hotels where you can 492 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: pay for Man, they had a hotel where you can 493 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: pay for the hour and the down because you know, 494 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: they had prostitutes. So I found a hotel where I 495 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,959 Speaker 1: paid like thirty five dollars a day and you know, 496 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: you shared a whole bath room with everybody in the hotel. Yeah, 497 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: it was some old gangster ships. I mean, you know 498 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: somethings you see needles and all that. I said, Man, 499 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: I'm That's how I knew I was on the mission. Man. 500 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: And my first baby, Mama, I just had my daughter 501 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: I told her, Man, I'm going to New York to 502 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: be funny. She said, NICKI you ain't that funny. You 503 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: just had a daughter nigger, and you know, and I 504 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: still tell my older daughter to this day. I said, baby, 505 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: I hate that I didn't grow up with you, But 506 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: if I had not a left, I wouldn't know you now. 507 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: I wouldn't know you now, and I wouldn't have made it. 508 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: And she don't understand. I can't even trade that ship 509 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: right now. Man, I don't. I can't make her. I 510 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: can't explain it to her, you know. But Man, I 511 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: ended up living in every borough up there. When I 512 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: got to New York, Man, I went to Russell Simmons office. 513 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: The next thought that everybody thought I was a maniact. 514 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: They was like, who the hell is this country? Because 515 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: I was country man, you know what I mean. My 516 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: clones wasn't. I wasn't just like New York. But when 517 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: I got up there, you know what I mean, because 518 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: they that's all he was coming. They were saying that 519 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: country boy and country because I was doing comedy stuff. 520 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: And uh, you know the whole time I was up there, 521 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: I was like, you know what I'm no, I'm in 522 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,719 Speaker 1: New York. But I know some ship they don't know. 523 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: I just always felt that way, you know what I mean, 524 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: because they was laughing at me, you know, they was there. 525 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: I said, I know some slick ship, you know, even 526 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: though it's New York. I still I was like, they 527 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: don't know this country ship, you know what I mean. 528 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: I bought a Cadillac one time and a girl was 529 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: laughing at me. I said, what's you last? Year said 530 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: I didn't know you drove a cab. I said. It 531 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: offended me because yeah, because Cadillacs ain't chipped up there. 532 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: They their calves and shipped up there. You know, you 533 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: don't think it would have fixed up in New York. 534 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: They don't put through and bold mannaids on. You don't 535 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: even see manonnaires and mustards in New York, you know 536 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: what I mean. Man, You know the first time I 537 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: saw you, I saw you at Alice Club, just joking 538 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: in Houston, and you did the Richard Pride piece, that 539 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: piece right there. When I saw you do that, I said, 540 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: he gonna make it. He did, he got something. I 541 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: remember that in Richmond on Richmond, right, he gonna make it. 542 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: He got something. And so this is before Friday, of course, 543 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: and all of that stuff. And and I told I 544 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: wanted to meet meet you, yuh, and you know you 545 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: saw each other. Oh man, you let me. I'm a fan, man, 546 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: you know what. I'm a fan too right now. You 547 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: know what I'm I'm a fan too, man, because when 548 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: I saw you on that stage man hand doing doing 549 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: your thing like that, I said, Man, this dude he 550 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: got it. And I and I and I've seen a 551 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: lot of people do, Richard, but you did it the best. 552 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: Which brings me to this movie that needs to be 553 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: made that has that It is still like on the sheelf, 554 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: what's going on with the Richard Pryan movie. Well, you 555 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: know what Willie face. You know, I met with Scarf. 556 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: I mean I said I met with Scarce. I met 557 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: with Richard Pryor, uh probably about two about oh three 558 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: something like that, oh four, went up to his house, 559 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: Matt Witty and uh his wife really is the one 560 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: that saw me out, you know, and said that Richard 561 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: asked me to play his movie. But when I got 562 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: there to see Richard, Richard was like there because he 563 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: had multiple scrolls. Yeah he couldn't, he couldn't. He like 564 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: he understood us. Like we're sitting there talking, but all 565 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: the nerves in his that's what MS is. He couldn't 566 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: move nothing, so the motor skills. Yeah, but but you 567 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: could read the person's eyes, you know. Some of them 568 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: days and nig was looking at me like ni, I 569 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: don't want to be bothered. He could go home, you 570 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And the lady didn't understand. I'm 571 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: like ship. But some of them days. So you was 572 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: around him several days. Oh man, I went up there 573 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: and seen it for a whole year. I used to 574 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: go sil Richard Pride for a year, but I was 575 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: it was sad because I didn't get the Richard that 576 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: I yeah, you know what I mean. And some days 577 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: he was like I would go up there and try 578 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: to make him laugh when I first met him, and 579 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: he'd just be looking at me, like he'd be looking 580 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: at me like that, ain't it? You know what I mean? 581 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: Like you gotta be yourself for me, you know what 582 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: I mean? Like because I didn't, I didn't understood. I 583 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: was so mesmerized that it was him, you know what 584 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: I mean. And then as I got natural, when I 585 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: was regularly felt like I was just going over my 586 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 1: uncle's house. You know what I mean? It was like, damn, yeah, 587 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go up to Uncle Richard's house. But 588 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 1: we had amazing ship around there. And then one day 589 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: one of the maze walked past some party and I said, damn, 590 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: that sounds like it's been tampered with. And the NIX said, 591 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: and what I said, She can't run it out the road? 592 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: She said, you made him? This was like six months. Man, 593 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: man is the story? Man? It wasn't laughing Manryan was 594 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: funny as hell. Bro, he was funny. Man wasn't I didn't. 595 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: I didn't even get my ass with the player Richard 596 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: Prior Records. That's how funny it was. What was the 597 00:34:54,239 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: first album you listened to that? Uh? Is crazy? That 598 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: was the one? Yeah? I think that was Craps? Remember 599 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: the Craps? I remember? Uh, how are you gonna get 600 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: a job with out here? Pressing? License? Was? One of 601 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,720 Speaker 1: my favorite Richard Fride jokes was when he talked about 602 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: him and his wife having a domestic dispute and he 603 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 1: shot the car. He really did bought that car? Yeah, 604 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 1: he said, I bought a car and uh, she was 605 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: talking about leaving. I said, when you weren't leaving in 606 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: this he shot a car that's cars. Yeah. And in 607 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: the dog thing, I think he was Richard the first 608 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: one that that. I guess he probably wasn't the first one. 609 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: Dog and like a dog or whatever, like like like 610 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 1: bring a dog to life with speech. He was like 611 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 1: talking about the dog they used to chase him all 612 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,919 Speaker 1: the time, named King. Remember that. It was like like yeah, 613 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: so so and he said, uh yeah, yeah, yeah, he said. 614 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: The dogs said you're Richard. You don't want to be 615 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: chasing you. Yeah, tomorrow your funny ship man was he 616 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 1: was running, Um, he's chasing the two dogs chasing after 617 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: the other dog. Dog looked at up and say that 618 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 1: ship and they said that ain't no goddamned dogs dog 619 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: in the world said like that jack some wineo that 620 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: took a squad on the side. Man, rich Man, I 621 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: can't wait to see this ship. I can't wait for 622 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,280 Speaker 1: you to start, you know, cracking that up, man, because 623 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: that you the road, Richard Brown. When they actually they 624 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: do want to they're doing they're doing a nineteen eighties 625 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 1: series called show Time about the l a Lakers, about 626 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: Magic and Norm and all these dudes, and it's coming 627 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: on HBO. It's gonna be real controversial. And they got 628 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: me playing Richard Pride in it. Yeah, because yeah, because 629 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: the Richard was hanging around magic in them back in 630 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: the day in the eighties when all that, you know, 631 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:22,399 Speaker 1: when she just called it's called showtime, yeah untitled. Yeah, 632 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: it's gonna be real controversy. Oh yeah, man. But but 633 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:30,760 Speaker 1: the great Paul Mooney just died. Man. Man, that dude 634 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 1: was deep, wasn't he made? He was a real one. 635 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,399 Speaker 1: Did you know him personal level? Oh? Yeah, man, he 636 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,839 Speaker 1: was real. Give us a memorable Paul Mooney story that 637 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:47,240 Speaker 1: nobody knows, but you Uh, when I first met Paul Mooney, 638 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 1: I was at the Last Factory in l A. And uh, 639 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: I went on stage and he was I knew he 640 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: was in there because they had shotted him out. And 641 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: I went on stage and when I got off stage 642 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,280 Speaker 1: where he was sitting at he wasn't there no more. 643 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: So I thought he left because you know, I was 644 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,800 Speaker 1: up there trying to show off on him the crowd. 645 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,280 Speaker 1: I had the crowd going. I jumped out stage. I'm like, damn, 646 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: go they're quick, you know, because I wanted to see 647 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: what he thought. But but I didn't seem and uh. 648 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 1: I walked outside and he was standing over there talking 649 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: to somebody, and I walked past him, and I was 650 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: about to say something to me, but he was talking 651 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: and I didn't say nothing. And as soon as I 652 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,720 Speaker 1: got a couple of steps away from me, he said, yeah, 653 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 1: you're you're down home funny nigger. That's what he said that, Yeah, 654 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: you're down home funny nigger. I was like, oh yeah, 655 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 1: I said, I appreciate that, you know what I mean. Yeah, 656 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 1: you went them down home funny niggers. I said, you know, 657 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 1: because because country man, you know what I mean. I'm 658 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 1: a country boy man hard you know what I mean. 659 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 1: My parents from the South. So that's what he said 660 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: to me, man, you know. And I never forgot that. 661 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 1: And then we ever since then we kicked it and 662 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: kicked and went out. When they told me I was 663 00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: playing Richard pryor his wife, she didn't want me talking 664 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 1: to nobody. Listen, man, when the man died, nobody was 665 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: at the funeral. Nobody. Let me tell you what was 666 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:17,800 Speaker 1: at the funeral, Monique George Lopez. These are people that 667 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 1: don't even know him. You would, I'm listening. She didn't 668 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 1: invite none of his Hollywood friends. So okay, So they 669 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 1: wasn't there, not because they didn't want to be that 670 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: it's just that, okay, that's like, that's like God forbid 671 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,919 Speaker 1: something happening, something to me and my kids. They ain't 672 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 1: invited to my ship because my wife won't let him come. 673 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 1: That's what happened. Man. I met the mother like a 674 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,839 Speaker 1: service and what's her name is? Uh? They didn't even 675 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: know she was there, dying a ross sitting in their 676 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: head with some black shot on with she just stood 677 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,080 Speaker 1: up and started singing in front of the whole of 678 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 1: the guy just stood through them just so was like 679 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 1: they because we didn't know who she was that was 680 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 1: dying a ross. She snuck in there and started singing. 681 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 1: Security and people that man, when they got upon and 682 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,359 Speaker 1: realized it was dying a ross, they backed up off 683 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,399 Speaker 1: of her. Damn. His wife didn't even know that was her. 684 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: I'm telling you some real ship, man, And this is 685 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 1: the wife that wanted you to play this. This is 686 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 1: the wife that wanted you to play the role. Yeah, 687 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: that's that's the wife that wanted me to play the 688 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,879 Speaker 1: ro And then wow, and now I know you gotta 689 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 1: you gotta break, but I wanted. I do want you 690 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 1: to touch real quick on the Upshaws. Yeah, that's a 691 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 1: funny series. I liked it. I liked the banner between 692 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: you and your daughter. Uh, and and and the ex 693 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. That's the beautiful thing. How did 694 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 1: that come to be? Well, you know what, as you know, 695 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 1: we all grew up watching the Norman Lear TV shows, 696 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: Uh Good Time and uh, the Jeffersons and stuff. Man, 697 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 1: that's all error. That's the television that raised us. And 698 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 1: I've done sitcoms I've tried. I was on Uncle Buck, 699 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: I was on ABC and all that stuff, and those 700 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 1: outfits weren't for me. And I said, if I do 701 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 1: a sitcom, it's gotta be what I'm taylored from what 702 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: I grew up watching. That's my timing. That's our timing, 703 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: right there, Fred Sanford and right, that's that's the comedy. 704 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: You can see it. Yeah, you're very very natural in it. 705 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 1: I've seen comedians who are very very good comedians get 706 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 1: their own sitcoms, and you're like, you can tell it forced. 707 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: It looks forced. It does just that that Upshaws. You 708 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 1: got something that I appreciate that Ladies and gentlemen, Mike EPs, Man, 709 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: thank you for coming on show. You definitely gotta come back. Man. 710 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 1: We can talk y' y'all legends in the game again. 711 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 1: Like I said, Man, you brothers raised me. I had 712 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: I knew you before you could even begin to think 713 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,839 Speaker 1: you knew me. Man, And thank you for everything y'all 714 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: have done for the community. Y'all raised black men out here, 715 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 1: and y'all don't get y'all just do. Man. I really 716 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 1: I hate it man, because we did. Man. We appreciate 717 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,399 Speaker 1: it that y'all deserve more than y'all ever have. Man, 718 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:35,799 Speaker 1: Love y'all brothers. Man appreciate. This episode was produced by 719 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 1: A King and brought to you by The Black Effect 720 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 1: Podcast Network and Heart Radio.