1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to I've never said this before with 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: me Tommy di Dario. There are so many great shows 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: to watch at any given time, right, but sometimes a 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: really special one comes along that you can't stop thinking about. 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: Today's guest he is in what I am calling one 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: of the best shows of the year, and his performance 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: will make you laugh and cry and all of the 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: amazing things in between. The brilliant Miles Heiser joins my 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: show today who You Know and Love from Parenthood, Thirteen 10 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: Reasons Why I Love Simon and now the very bingeworthy 11 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: series Boots, which is coming out on Netflix on October ninth. So. 12 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: In Boots, Miles plays Cameron Cope. He is a bully 13 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: gay high school student who, with his best friend kind 14 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: of on a whim, joins the Marines to find some 15 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: direction in his life. The problem is he joined the 16 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: Marines in the nineties when it was illegal to be 17 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: gay in the Marines. So the series is based off 18 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: a very powerful true story and it explores so many themes. 19 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: I mean, friendship is finding your place in a very 20 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: difficult world. I am calling it now. Boots is going 21 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: to soar to number one within twenty four hours of 22 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: it being released. I'm even surprised words are coming out 23 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: of my mouth, to be honest, because I don't know. 24 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: I feel quite speechless when I think of how powerful 25 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: Miles performance was in this incredible story. So let's let 26 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: him find the words for me, and let's see if 27 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: today we can get Miles to say something that he 28 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: has never said before. Miles, how you doing today? 29 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 2: I am good. I'm a little nervous, but I'm doing well. 30 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: Don't be nervous. Although you did tell me it's your 31 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: first podcast, it is. 32 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm worried I'll say something unforgivable, but I'm curious 33 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: to find out what it is that he is say. 34 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. To podcasts freak you out? Like does 35 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: long form generally freak you out? 36 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's the long form. Yeah, of it 37 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: not being said, I love podcasts. It's like all I 38 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: listen to, so there's a thrill to being on one 39 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: as well. 40 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: Well. I am very honored you chose this one. 41 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: Yes, thank you for having that. 42 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: I am so psyched to have you. I was telling you, 43 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: I'm such a fan of Boots. I got to see it, 44 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: I guess now. Six weeks ago I watched it. So 45 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: it's been terrible because I haven't been able to talk 46 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: about it with that. 47 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: Right, honestly, same. I think I saw it for the 48 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: first time like six weeks ago, and yeah, I have 49 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 2: no one to tell. I'm like it exists. I swear 50 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: it's coming out soon. 51 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. It is such a special project. I've been 52 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: telling everybody, like, when you see it, it's it's going 53 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: to be one of your favorite shows of the year. 54 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Well I hope that's true. I'm we're 55 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,399 Speaker 2: all so excited we started, Like it's been almost three 56 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 2: years now since we started, so it's it's very surreal 57 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 2: that it's like it's actually coming out. Like, I'm so 58 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 2: so excited, and I've seen it too, and it's I'm 59 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 2: just so proud of it and excited to see what 60 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 2: the reaction is. 61 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: In your character. Man, he's he's so much fun to 62 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: watch his evolution. Right. So you play Cameron aka Cope, Yes, 63 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: and he enlists in the Marines with his best friend. 64 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 2: That's true. 65 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: He has a secret, right, he's gay, yes, And you 66 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: can't be gay in the nineties in the Marines, it's illegal. 67 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 2: Right, That is true. 68 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: So it's a very interesting story and you are, I mean, 69 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: you are the face of this series. Like, how does 70 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: it all feel. We're a few days a head of 71 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: the release and it's your baby, I mean, is it 72 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: a wild feeling? 73 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's very very crazy. I've been acting since 74 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: i was ten, you know, twenty years now, and I'm 75 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: very comfortable in all the roles I've played before. I'm 76 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 2: usually like a smaller character. There's this sort of disconnection 77 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: where you're like, there's not as much pressure on you 78 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: because I'm like, if people like it or they don't, like, 79 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: I'm such a small part of this thing that it's 80 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: I don't feel that that stress about the reaction into it. 81 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: And this is definitely a very different experience. I'm like 82 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 2: praying that someone will like it. I'm like, it feels 83 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 2: very very precious to me, but to all of us. 84 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: It's sort of a weird, weird show where typically everyone 85 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 2: has scenes separate from each other, and so you have 86 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 2: days where you're not working, you're not there all the time, 87 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: and the show is like, if you don't see us, 88 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 2: you can guarantee we were still there. It was like 89 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: every scene, we were all there, no matter what. So 90 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 2: we just spent so much time on it and so 91 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: much time together, so I think it just feels very 92 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 2: close to all of us and we hope people enjoy it. 93 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: Do you spiral ahead of something like this, like are 94 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: you up at night? Do you have anxiety? Are you 95 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 1: able to be like? It will be what it will be? 96 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: I am not mistay and calm. 97 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 2: You know, I'll be honest. Typically I'm like super calm 98 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 2: and not anxious, And this is definitely the first time 99 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: for me where I'm like genuinely anxious about it, but 100 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: sort of in a fun way. Since I saw the show, 101 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: I'm like, I love it so much and I think 102 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 2: that people will really like it if they watch it, 103 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 2: and so there's like a sense of calm there. It's 104 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 2: more excitement where I'm like, I'm so excited for people 105 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 2: to see it because I think that it's the show 106 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: when you watch it is very different than it reads 107 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 2: on paper, like it's it's very light and fun and heartwarming, 108 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 2: and I think that's sort of a different take on 109 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 2: the classic like boot camp or military story. So I 110 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 2: hope that people give it a chance and will end 111 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 2: up really liking it and feeling uplifted by the end, 112 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: and yeah. 113 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: It's a really different kind of coming of age story, right, 114 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: and all the different characters in it are going through 115 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: their own journeys of trying to figure out who they 116 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: are in a really difficult world. And I think that's 117 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: something we all want. And sure, I imagine doing a 118 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: role like this and playing this character as someone who 119 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: went through your own journey and is sitting here as 120 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: an out gay man today maybe was cathartic or healing 121 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: in a way, Like did it feel like that? 122 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I feel like for queer people, it's 123 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,799 Speaker 2: growing up. For a lot of us, at least myself included, 124 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 2: it's like your entire youth is spent like obsessing over 125 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 2: this thing and this fear of people finding out and 126 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: how people are going to react, and it's such a 127 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: part of our lives and our psychees that it's like 128 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 2: it's very easy to go back to that as someone 129 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 2: that's sort of passed that phase because it's just drilled 130 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 2: into my brain. So there is something very cathartic about 131 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 2: going back and sort of reportraying that because it is 132 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 2: still such a huge part of me. I think the 133 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 2: thing that I love about Cameron and this show is 134 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 2: that his journey is not really about discovering his sexuality. 135 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: I think that's something that he knows and is comfortable 136 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 2: with and has his best friend who supports him. And 137 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 2: ultimately his arc is really about sort of growing and 138 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: discovering new things about himself. But obviously there's this conundrum 139 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 2: of the price of that is sort of hiding this 140 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: other part of himself, which I think is really interesting 141 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 2: and not something we see too often. 142 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: And I think there's something really interesting about your character 143 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,559 Speaker 1: and worrying about feeling exposed in a group of these 144 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: like macho dudes right in Marine boot Camp. Like, that's 145 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: something that I think a lot of people who go 146 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: through their own journey discovering who the arc and experience. 147 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: I remember being in high school and I did all 148 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: the plays, and I was in theater and also in athletes. 149 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: It was a really weird balance to strike between the 150 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: two groups. But I remember in our theater like I 151 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: would be rehearsing and I used to do hip hop 152 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: and dance and teaching my co stars or my castmates 153 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: how to dance. And the football team will come in 154 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: and start training and doing runs up and down the 155 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: steps of our theater gym, and I'm like, there, I 156 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: am like teaching a dance to people, Like I feel 157 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: so exposed. Yes, I wasn't even out then, you know, 158 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: like it's just sure. I felt a lot of those 159 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: moments in this Yeah. 160 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: I think that's something I really connect with. Growing up, 161 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: I was like raised by women. I had a single mother, 162 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: a sister, my grandmother was I was sort of surrounded 163 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 2: by women, and I think I developed this sort of 164 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 2: anxiety around boys because I was afraid that they were 165 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 2: gonna make fun of me or see something in me 166 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: that was different and therefore sort of other me. And 167 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: I think that I really avoided a lot of like 168 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: male friendships growing up because of that, And I think 169 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of queer people have that 170 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: same experience. I think that's what's so interesting sort of 171 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: about this show is that Cameron is put in this 172 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: place where he suddenly that has to go away because 173 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: all these barriers and walls he's built up to protect 174 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 2: himself are just out the window. It's like, you're here, 175 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 2: you have to do these things, you have to fail, 176 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 2: And I think that in the process of that, he 177 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 2: ends up actually discovering all these things about himself and 178 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: things that he didn't know he was capable of, And 179 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 2: in some weird way, I like sort of had that 180 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 2: while we were filming with this group of boys, Like 181 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 2: we all come from literally like different parts of the country, 182 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 2: very different backgrounds and people that I think maybe I 183 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 2: wouldn't have thought that I would connect with necessarily. And 184 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: it was like such a beautiful experience the way we 185 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 2: all came together and bonded so closely and sort of 186 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 2: put aside all these preconceived notions about each other and 187 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 2: our backgrounds and sort of just connected on a human level. 188 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 2: And I feel like that's really the message of the 189 00:09:58,600 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 2: show as well. 190 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: And you have now an entire fraternity of brothers that's 191 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: a big group of guys. 192 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 2: And one sister, Angus O'Brien my my bestie. 193 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: Everybody is so good in this. I mean, there's so 194 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: much I want to say, but I'm not saying. 195 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 2: Oh right, we can't. 196 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: But here's something for you. What was the scariest part 197 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: of doing a show like this? 198 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,599 Speaker 2: You know this is this is easy for me to 199 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 2: answer sort of a spoiler, but there's like an element 200 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 2: of boot camp that involves being high up in the air, 201 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 2: and I have like an extreme fear of heights, not 202 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 2: like acute, like I can't do it like a full 203 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 2: like Maury Povich running through the hallway. Yes, like very scared. 204 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 2: And so we had to do this and I talked 205 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 2: to someone ahead of time and they're like, well, we'll 206 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 2: build like a miniature. We can like fake it with 207 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: the angles, like do not worry about it. And of course, 208 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 2: worse I get there, there's no miniature. It's a full size. 209 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 2: Like I actually have a bone to pick with production 210 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 2: because on camera it looks like, oh, it's yeah, it's 211 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 2: kind of high up, like in person, it was so 212 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: tall it was very scary. Unfortunately, we had a stunt coordinator, Jade, 213 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: who did like circ Disolay, was a tightrope walker, and 214 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 2: he like seriously walked me through it. We had a 215 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 2: rehearsal day where I was like, I literally can't do it, 216 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 2: and he was like, we're gonna do it, and we's 217 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 2: sure enough. Like he got me there and I was 218 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 2: able to do it on the day. That was definitely 219 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 2: the scariest part for me, but I knew in advance. 220 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 2: I was dreading that the whole time. I'm like I 221 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 2: can't believe I have to climb this this. 222 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: Thing, but you did it. 223 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 2: I did it. Yeah, it was very sweet. The boys 224 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 2: were like they were all there at the rehearsal and 225 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 2: cheering me on. It was very very much mirrored the show. 226 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,719 Speaker 1: That's really yeah, and good on you. Not only do 227 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: you have to like act to make it look really believable, 228 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: but you're doing things that genuinely freak you the hell out. 229 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like my number one off limits. Cannot do it, 230 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 2: but I did it. 231 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: So you're ready in your next role to skydive. 232 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 2: I'm not okay, Yeah, I'm not gonna do it, but 233 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 2: you know I'm I'm at peace with where what I 234 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 2: did and where I'm at now. 235 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: Good for you. What surprised you the most about playing 236 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: this role and doing the show? Like, was there any 237 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: point during filming where you were just like, wow, that 238 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: was not what I expected, or I feel a certain 239 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: way I didn't expect to feel, or anything like that. 240 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's so many aspects of it, honestly 241 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 2: getting there. When we first arrived in New Orleans where 242 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 2: we filmed, I had like pretty extreme imposter syndrome. I'm like, 243 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: I don't belong here. I'm scared like Vera Farmiga is 244 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 2: probably somewhere nearby. I should not be anywhere near her. 245 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 2: And I think through the process, I think we all 246 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 2: had this again because we were all there all day 247 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 2: every day. I didn't think I would be able to 248 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 2: work that much and to be to not have a 249 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 2: complete breakdown, and it was like that was something I learned, 250 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 2: was like, wow, I can actually do this thing that 251 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 2: I've never done before and never thought that I could do. 252 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 2: And another thing that was was really cool for me 253 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: is we had three military advisors on set with us 254 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 2: the whole time, and they were sort of they helped 255 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 2: us train a little bit before we started, and then 256 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 2: each week, like or not week, but each episode, whatever 257 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 2: we were doing in the forthcoming episode, we like have 258 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 2: a day with them where they walked us through it 259 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 2: and trained us, and then they were there on set 260 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 2: every single day to like to watch and make sure 261 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 2: that every there's it's the Marines are so meticulous. There's 262 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 2: like the belt has to be in a certain place, 263 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 2: and there are all these things that they were like 264 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 2: they were there to monitor. But that being said, I 265 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 2: think especially for like a gay kid, I have these 266 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 2: perceptions about sort of masculine worlds. I think for me, 267 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 2: when I think of the military, it feels sort of 268 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 2: hyper masculine in some type of way, and I think 269 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: you just, without knowing, sort of develop a perception of 270 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 2: that world. And it was so enlightening to have spent 271 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 2: so much time with them and to really connect with 272 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 2: them and see like all these things that I might 273 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 2: have thought about marines was so not true. And I 274 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 2: think we both sort of had this learning experience from 275 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 2: each other where like we come from such different worlds 276 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 2: and were able to come together and learn a lot 277 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 2: from each other and about each other. And it was 278 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 2: really a very powerful experience for me. 279 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: And you got yelled at quite a bit in the show. 280 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 2: It's funny watching it. I'm like, oh, it's funny, like 281 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 2: hearing them scream at us. But yeah, when we were 282 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 2: there pretty quickly it was like, oh boy, there's yeah 283 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 2: more screaming. 284 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: Did you go home and like heard that in your dreams? 285 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: Just being yelled at. 286 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 2: I'm sure I was checking out when I went home. 287 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 2: We would have like two hours before you had to 288 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 2: be asleep. I was watching Rock of Love. That's how 289 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: checked out. I was, right, I don't know what that 290 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 2: is that's on you? 291 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: Oh man, do I need to google it? 292 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, yeah, it's like an early I guess early 293 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 2: two thousands MTV dating show with Brett Michaels, and it's 294 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 2: it's just it's a disaster. 295 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, but one that you go back to over 296 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: and over. 297 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 2: I was just watching it. I'm like, I don't know 298 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 2: what I'm doing. I would order pizza, watch go to sleep. 299 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: Why not something maybe a little more current, like Love 300 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: Island or. 301 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 2: You know, that's a good question. I'm a huge reality 302 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 2: TV like I watch. I watch a lot of them. 303 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 2: I did just watch Love Island, but I don't know. 304 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 2: For some reason, I had started Rock of Love before 305 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 2: getting to New Orleans, and so I just I kept 306 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 2: kept kicking on that. 307 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: Okay, so you're a big Like Housewives fan. 308 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 2: I'm not believe it or not. I love like the 309 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: competition reality shows specifically. I never watched Real Housewives, but 310 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 2: I did watch Love Island. 311 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: But did you like the competition shows before you did 312 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: a show about being in the Marines? Oh yeah, okay, Oh. 313 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: My gosh, yeah, this is this is deep deep in 314 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: my history. I started watching Big Brother when I was 315 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: like ten or something, and yeah, I've always been very 316 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 2: into reality competition shows. 317 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: I like that. Yeah, I like that. Well, maybe one 318 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: day you'll be on one. 319 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 2: Trust me, I have this this horrible little fantasy of 320 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 2: being on Big Brother one day. But I'm like, I can't. 321 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 2: I can't do it, Like, nope, No, three what is it? 322 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 2: Is it? Three months? Yeah? 323 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: And you're leading a show on Netflix. You're right, You're 324 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: okay right now, you're a little busy, Like, let's settle down. 325 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 2: I can't lead three months. 326 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: We're good, we'll work that out later. What I love 327 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,719 Speaker 1: about this show too, is and so many shows right now, 328 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: there's like a rise in inclusive content right like Heartstopper 329 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 1: and overcompensating in this and you're just seeing more and 330 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: more of it, which I think is so great because 331 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: the stories are great, Like it all begins with a 332 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: great story for sure, and I love that we're getting 333 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: quality content more and more and more. Do you feel 334 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: like as an actor, as an artist that the industry 335 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: is kinder to you in this day and age being 336 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: an outgay man and being a person who deserves and 337 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: wants to seat at the table. Do you feel like 338 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: the change. 339 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 2: I mean I feel it's sort of night and day. 340 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I started acting when I was ten, and 341 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 2: you know, as I was aware I was gay, like 342 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 2: so early, and I think growing up, I seeing the 343 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 2: industry and seeing how the landscape of it was sort 344 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 2: of like if you're gay, like you need to move 345 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 2: somewhere else, You're never gonna work again, et cetera. So 346 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 2: growing up, I had such fear surrounding this where I'm like, 347 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 2: it's gonna hit a point where it's like I'm very 348 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 2: clockable as a gay person and they're gonna start being like, 349 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 2: we can't hire him. And I remember having conversations of 350 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 2: like even playing gay characters, there was this sort of 351 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 2: trope of like once you do it, like that's it. 352 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,479 Speaker 2: Like you're sort of in this box where like you 353 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 2: can only play gay characters. And there aren't a lot 354 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 2: of gay projects or a lot of times there's like 355 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 2: not funding behind them, and it's like, it's so crazy 356 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 2: to be in a time where there's like high quality, 357 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 2: good content about gay people, Like for me to be 358 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 2: on this show is just so crazy. Thinking back, like 359 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 2: I was so afraid of being like an out gay 360 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 2: person in the entertainment industry and to have an opportunity 361 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 2: like this is like really not wasted on me. I 362 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 2: know how wild it is and what a special opportunity 363 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 2: it is. I'm just very grateful obviously, like there's still 364 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 2: plenty of progress to be made, but yeah, as of now, 365 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 2: I'm like it is. It's exciting that there there seemed 366 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,719 Speaker 2: to be more and more opportunities for people. 367 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: I think that's really cool. I don't know about you, 368 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: but over the course of my career, I sometimes felt 369 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: like I had to work harder than some of my 370 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,239 Speaker 1: peers to prove myself because I'm a gay man, and 371 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: like I needed to be looked at in the same way, 372 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: and I didn't want to be overlooked or not looked 373 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: at because of that. Did you feel that coming up? 374 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 2: You know it's in a way yes, in a way no, 375 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 2: I think like a big part of it was like 376 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 2: trying to be person received as straight or someone that 377 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 2: they could buy as a straight person on a TV 378 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: show or in a movie or something. But I think 379 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 2: deep down, I like, whether it was right or wrong, 380 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 2: I sort of never felt like that was an option 381 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 2: for me. I'm like, at a certain point, it's like 382 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 2: everyone is gonna know and they're not I'm not gonna 383 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 2: be right for those types of parts and stuff. So 384 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 2: I feel like I had a good disconnection from that 385 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,239 Speaker 2: where I'm like I was a little at peace just 386 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 2: knowing like I'm not gonna be Jennifer Lawrence's husband and 387 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 2: something like it's no one's buying it. It's not gonna happen, 388 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 2: and more developed like peace with that, but again, like 389 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 2: to be in a world now where there there's a 390 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 2: show like Boots for that I could be on. That's 391 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 2: that's just insane. 392 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, but so so needed, right, Like so needed. 393 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 2: I was when I got the audition for it. I 394 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 2: read the pilot and I was like, I can't believe 395 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 2: this show is being made, let alone by Netflix. It 396 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 2: was like I connected with it so so intensely, and 397 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 2: it was one where when I read it, I'm like, 398 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 2: all right, I'm gonna really give it my all, Like 399 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 2: I'm gonna try as hard as I possibly can on 400 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 2: this one. And here we are. 401 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: And opportunities like this don't come up a lot. They 402 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: just don't. So did that do that make you just 403 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: hold on to it extra tight? Like did it consume you? 404 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: Like I have to book this role? Like how do 405 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: you even go into something like this one. It's i mean, 406 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: such an epic moment in your career that could happen. 407 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, honestly, I did my first audition and 408 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 2: I didn't hear anything back for truly, like three months, 409 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 2: so I just sort of like letting go. I'm like, 410 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 2: I mean I felt the connection, but it's like for 411 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 2: a first audition, I've learned at this point, like just 412 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 2: do your best and just forget about it afterward, because truly, 413 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 2: like ninety nine percent of the time you don't hear 414 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,959 Speaker 2: a word back and that just is what it is. 415 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 2: And when I got the callback, I was like, oh 416 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 2: my god, this is wow. Yes, like I'm I assumed 417 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 2: I had no shot at that because it's been three months. 418 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 2: But then yeah, it was a pretty quick but intense 419 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 2: audition experience after that callback, and I was getting very 420 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 2: attached to the whole thing. I'm like, after doing you know, 421 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 2: forty pages of auditions and stuff, Yeah, I was like 422 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 2: really really attached to it. It's also funny there's a 423 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 2: and I sent this to like our producers after I 424 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 2: booked the job, but there's a song hold On by 425 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 2: Wilson Phillips that sort of plays a part in the show. 426 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 2: And I've like have this very long history of like 427 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 2: loving that song. This is obviously humiliating, but I have 428 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 2: like a video of myself singing it in a CVS 429 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: when I'm like eighteen, I think, and it's like very strange. 430 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 2: I don't know why, but like once a year basically 431 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 2: my agent will like send me that and be like, 432 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 2: I still love this video of you. 433 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: Haha. 434 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 2: It's like been this recurring thing in my life and 435 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 2: when this happened, I'm like, there's some some weird universe 436 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 2: thing happening where I'm like I need to be a 437 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 2: part of this. So yeah, it was. It was. It 438 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 2: was tough not to get attached, but it worked out. 439 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: So I will one hundred percent have to see that video. 440 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 2: I'll show you. I'm wearing a really sad like shirt 441 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 2: with flowers on it, like I look on well, I 442 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 2: have blonde hair. Yeah it's a bad look. 443 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's amazing. It was meant to be. 444 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't believe in coincidence. I just don't. 445 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: I think that was somehow things aligning And you know, 446 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: what are the chances of that song that you sang 447 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: in CVS is suddenly a big part of this show. 448 00:23:59,359 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: Come on. 449 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 2: It does make make you wonder, It definitely does. 450 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 1: If there were to be a theme song to your life, 451 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 1: what would it be? Oh my god, we're in this 452 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: era of your life right now, what would you say 453 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 1: that is? 454 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 2: That's like the hardest question I've ever heard. I have 455 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 2: some like classics that sort of stick with me that 456 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 2: are like very important to me. There's a song called 457 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,959 Speaker 2: zurich Is Staying by Pavement that I like. For whatever reason, 458 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 2: I'm like, this is like just my song. I just 459 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 2: connect with it. I feel like it's like it's something 460 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 2: that I'm like, this sort of sounds like my personality 461 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 2: or something. And I have some Teagan and Sarah's songs 462 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 2: that are like core core, you know, me discovering my identity. 463 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 2: Like there's a song called nineteen by Teagan and Sarah 464 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 2: that's like my forever song. It was sort of like 465 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,959 Speaker 2: the first thing that I heard and latched onto in 466 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 2: a very toxic way where I was like, this is 467 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 2: my personality. I have asymmetrical hair, like I'm alt, I'm Indie, 468 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 2: And it was like a huge part of my growing up. 469 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 2: So maybe those two I like those they're both like depressing. 470 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 1: So you know what, they're good songs. Yes, they're good, 471 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: good artists, good songs. I love that. 472 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 2: Do you have an answer? 473 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: Do I have an answer? Oh? Got a song anthem? 474 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: An anthem for this moment in my life right now? 475 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: Oh god, it is a hard one. It is because 476 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: there are songs I love, right, I mean, okay, wow, 477 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 1: there are songs I love. But it doesn't mean they 478 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: would define me right now? You know what I mean? 479 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,479 Speaker 1: And I think about that. 480 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll think about it. I'll send you a real 481 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 2: answer later because those are both like not fun or 482 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 2: uplifting songs. 483 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: So well, you got me thinking. You send me the 484 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: CVS video, I'll send you my answer later. It's a deal. 485 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: We're going to make it happen. But you're right. Music 486 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: is a big part of the show, and I love 487 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: the music in the show so much. 488 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 2: When I saw it, I'm like, they spent some money 489 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 2: on these songs. It is like very good, very good 490 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 2: music sort of like becomes a character in the show. Again, 491 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 2: there's so many moments that while we were filming, they 492 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 2: truly felt like so intense and hard and it felt 493 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 2: so serious. And then watching the show. I'm like, oh, 494 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 2: that was like it's a joke. Like they're super light 495 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 2: and funny, and a lot of that is sort of 496 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 2: music bass, like they play these songs and it adds 497 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 2: this sort of comedic layer to the whole thing that 498 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 2: unfortunately we didn't know what's happening when we were filming. 499 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 2: I think all of us collectively, when we saw the show, 500 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 2: we're like, whoa. It's like the tone is so different 501 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 2: than what we thought we were making mm hm, which 502 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 2: is really fun for us. Like, I think you have 503 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 2: these expectations of what you're working on, and when you 504 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 2: see it and it's so different, it's like there's some 505 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 2: sort of relief to that. You're like, oh my god, 506 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 2: this is like a totally different show, and it's like 507 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 2: so fun and easy to watch and not what we 508 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 2: thought we were making. 509 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Yeah, there's a lot of pleasant surprises throughout 510 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: the entire show. You you have so many scenes that 511 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: are funny and light and gross at some point right 512 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 1: I'm not going to reveal what that is, but there's 513 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:31,959 Speaker 1: some interesting things going on. But there's also a lot 514 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: of powerful and you know, raw in these moments that's 515 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 1: just like, oh, they just like strike something inside of you. 516 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: Was there a moment during the filming of this show 517 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: where even you got emotional, like it's just kind of 518 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: something hit you hard? 519 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 2: Or oh yeah, I mean unfortunately, I guess they can't 520 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 2: give spoilers, but there are definitely moments in the show 521 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 2: where reading the scene, I'm like, I didn't it doesn't 522 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 2: necessarily play out in the show the way that's it's written, 523 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 2: just because for whatever reason, in that moment, you get 524 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 2: sort of like carried away, or it's it's yeah, strike 525 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 2: some sort of cord for you. I had a lot 526 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 2: of those moments, actually, yeah, And when we finished, I 527 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 2: was I remember when we wrapped, it was our last day, 528 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 2: and again, we just worked so hard, and the show 529 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 2: took like almost two years to finish because there was 530 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 2: a writers strike and we're in New Orleans and it's 531 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 2: like it's hot, and we all work every day, and 532 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 2: I think we're sort of like seeing that finish line, 533 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 2: it seemed like, oh, this is going to be such 534 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 2: a relief. And I remember when they they started wrapping 535 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 2: people on the last day and I was the only one. 536 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 2: I just started like hysterically crying. I never cry, like 537 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 2: it's just once I feel myself starting to cry, It's 538 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: like I shut off. I'm like, wow, I'm this is 539 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 2: so embarrassing. I'm crying. And then I just stopped crying, 540 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 2: but I was, I was weeping. That was probably the 541 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 2: most intense, It's like emotional reaction I had because like 542 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 2: such a such a huge experience for all of us, 543 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 2: and for it to be finishing was like it really 544 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 2: hit home for me. 545 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: How badly do you want a season two? 546 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 2: I will do anything, I'm telling you I will. I'll 547 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 2: do what needs to be done. Yeah, I'm hoping it's 548 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 2: gonna happen. That's what I'm telling myself. 549 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: It's gonna happen. For sure. Are there things you're thinking 550 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: about that you want to see for yourself in season two? 551 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 2: I mean sure there are like things I'm like, oh 552 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 2: that would be fun. 553 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's one of them. 554 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 2: Well see, it's gonna it's gonna be spoilers. 555 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay. 556 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 2: My dream. What I think would be like super cool 557 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 2: would be if they just did a full one eighty 558 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 2: and made it like zombies and they're like, now that 559 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 2: you've gone through boot camp, like you're prepared, and there's 560 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 2: like a zombie outbreak and we need the Marines to 561 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 2: like help us with the zombies. 562 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: Oh going supernatural? 563 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, but it's never gonna happen. 564 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: I'm here for it. I'm here for it all. Who 565 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: would be a dream guest star for you? You know what? 566 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 2: Someone asked me this and I never answered. 567 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: Like anyone that could pop in for an episode? 568 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was told I can't say Meryl Streep, and 569 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, that would. 570 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: Be why can't you say Meryl Streep? 571 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 2: Well, they told me I could, and obviously that would 572 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 2: be incredible. Yeah, you know May Whitman my best friend. 573 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 2: I'd love to see her hop on there. 574 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: M h from Parenthood. Yes, yes, that would be pretty epic. 575 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:30,479 Speaker 1: That'd be a fun reunion. 576 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 2: You know, I need to think. Let me think about that. 577 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 2: Okaybe I'll send that along with the CBS video. 578 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: Okay, So you have a lot of sund man, I know. 579 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,719 Speaker 2: So there's too many people I can't I can't choose. 580 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, fair enough you. I mean you've done 581 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: so much already in your career between Parenthood I just 582 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: mentioned and thirteen reasons why in this and uh you 583 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: know other amazing credits. Did you ever think you'd be 584 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: right here where you are at this point in your life, 585 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,479 Speaker 1: like you've had what people would consider a dream career. 586 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say I am. I'm extremely lucky. I 587 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 2: think that I felt very comfortable sort of playing smaller 588 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 2: parts and things, and that is what I've always done. 589 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 2: And I think to be like the lead of a 590 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 2: show like this was something that I never saw for myself, 591 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 2: and I was very comfortable with that. I'm like, it 592 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 2: just doesn't you know, I've done it long enough, it's 593 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 2: never happened, and I'm like it seems nerve wracking and 594 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 2: stressful and I'm like, I'm sort of at peace with 595 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 2: with where I'm at. But when this happened again major 596 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 2: imposters syndrome, but was like a huge learning experience for me. 597 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 2: And ultimately, no, I cannot believe that I'm here, like 598 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 2: doing any of the doing an interview about this show, 599 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 2: like it's it's pretty it's pretty wild, like I'm some 600 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 2: random gay kid from Kentucky. Literally, so yeah, I oh 601 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 2: my god. Yeah, extremely there's like I'm any other person 602 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 2: sitting there in Kentucky. So yeah, to be here is 603 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 2: pretty pretty crazy. 604 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: So is there something when you think about the next 605 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: ten years of your career A genre, a project, a 606 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: franchise that you would be like, God, I'd be so 607 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: cool to be a part of. 608 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I think my well one thing was 609 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 2: like to be on drag Race, which I did a 610 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 2: while ago. That was like the sort of my pinnacle 611 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 2: career aspiration. Outside of that, I have this desire to 612 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 2: be in like a cool, good horror movie. Like for me, 613 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 2: nothing like hits as hard as just like a good, 614 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 2: suspenseful horror movie. 615 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 616 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 2: And it's like I feel like there's like one or 617 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 2: two a year that are like really good, and I 618 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 2: would love to be in one just for fun. 619 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: Are you a huge horror fan? 620 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 2: I am, Yeah, but I also acknowledge like the majority 621 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 2: of it is is unwatchable. Yeah, but like when it's 622 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 2: when there's a really good one, like nothing gets to 623 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 2: be more excited. 624 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: I feel like you need to be in a Scream. 625 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 2: Listen your your lips, what do they say to God's Ears? 626 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 2: I'll do it because. 627 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: They take all of these really relevant pop culture people 628 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: and the show is going to be huge, and I 629 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: feel like once that comes out, especially, you got to 630 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: be in Scream. What do we on eight, Scream make 631 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: coming No Scream seven is coming out. Yeah, you gotta 632 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: be in screaming, so make it happen there. 633 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you so much. One of my co 634 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 2: stars from thirteen Reasons why he did that. He'd went 635 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 2: from our show and did a scream movie. Who remind 636 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 2: me his name is Dylan Minnette. He's now a rock star. 637 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: Yep, so yep, Yeah, it can happen. Even if it's 638 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: the opening kill. That's pretty iconic. 639 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 2: That's even that's like the ultimate gift. 640 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you could be the next three burying more 641 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: opening kill. 642 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 2: Listen. I'll once again, I'll take it. 643 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: We're making a lot happen to that. 644 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 2: I know it's true. 645 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: I feel really good about it. I feel really good 646 00:33:54,000 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: about it, Miles. I know what I got out of 647 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: the show, but being so close to it, like, what 648 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: is one message you hope people walk away from, you 649 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: know after watching Boots? 650 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I sort of touched on this already, 651 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 2: but I think the core of the show is sort 652 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 2: of about people coming together from different places and sort 653 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,439 Speaker 2: of letting their walls down and finding a middle ground 654 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 2: where they can connect as people. And again I already 655 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 2: kind of said this but I think that the show 656 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 2: is like it's sort of viewed through a queer lens, 657 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 2: but ultimately, like the story's really not about Cameron's sexuality 658 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 2: or him being gay. It's like really about self discovery. 659 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 2: And there's a part in the first episode sort of 660 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 2: a spoiler but where there's a line about Cameron's like, 661 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 2: I'm the only one who has to hide, and the 662 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 2: response is like, you think you're the only person here 663 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 2: who's hiding something. I think that everyone there has something 664 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 2: that they're scared of people finding out about them, and 665 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 2: scared of how they'll be perceived or if they'll be 666 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,280 Speaker 2: sort of put in some sort of box or othered. 667 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,280 Speaker 2: And I think that that's like a really powerful message 668 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 2: that the show sort of touches on, is like we 669 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 2: all have something like that, and when that's taken away, 670 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 2: especially in a place like boot camp where you're being 671 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,240 Speaker 2: taught like you only have each other, it's literally life 672 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 2: or death at a certain point, sort of putting all 673 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,240 Speaker 2: those things aside and being like, all right, we're people. 674 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 2: We all want the same thing, which is like to 675 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 2: be okay and to sit at home and watch TV 676 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 2: or whatever and just have a nice life and I 677 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 2: think the show does a really good job of sort 678 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 2: of portraying that, like people just coming together and seeing 679 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,399 Speaker 2: each other as people as opposed to any of our 680 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 2: our beliefs or our actuality or any of these other things. 681 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I think that's one really powerful message for sure, 682 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 1: and there's there's so many more. And that's one of 683 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,399 Speaker 1: the many reasons why I love this show. I think 684 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: people can get so much out of it no matter 685 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: what walk of life you come from, which is a 686 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: really powerful thing when you can relate to what you're 687 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 1: watching in some sort of way. So I couldn't love 688 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: that more, all right, Miles, as we wrap up, the 689 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: name of the show, right, it's called I've never said 690 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: this before, so you can see here on the copy. 691 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: And I started this show and that question because I 692 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: do a lot of red carpets and sit downs with 693 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: people in junkets, which you know you're no stranger too, 694 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: and they're so quick. So I like bringing people on 695 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: and having more of a real conversation where we can 696 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: learn more about you and where artists have the chance 697 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: to say something that's different or special to them or 698 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 1: personal or whatever that question means to them. So is 699 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: there anything today that you can think of that you've 700 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 1: never said before that you want to share. 701 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 2: All right, well, I thought about this. Mine is like 702 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 2: not meaningful or anything whatsoever. I'll start was something that 703 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 2: I have said before, which is that this happened like 704 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 2: what five days ago. I woke up at like seven 705 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 2: thirty in the morning to banging on my front door. 706 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 2: My dogs are screaming, and I like, go to the 707 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 2: front door, and there's a cop at my door and 708 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 2: I open it and he's like, I'm a detective from 709 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 2: the LAPD. I'm assuming my sister's been murdered or my mom. 710 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know why they would be here. 711 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 2: And he's like, oh, are you the owner of this 712 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 2: type of car. I'm like yeah, and he's like we 713 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,839 Speaker 2: found it like at an abandoned house. And I look 714 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 2: on the street. I'm like, yeah, the car, it's not there, 715 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 2: and he's like, yeah, we someone robbed a store and 716 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 2: we tracked them on ring cameras to this house and 717 00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 2: this car was in the driveway and we ran the 718 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,399 Speaker 2: place and it came back to you. And I'm like, yeah, 719 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 2: that's that is my car. Like, I what do we do? 720 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 2: And they're like well, we can just take you over 721 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 2: to get the car, like if you have the key. 722 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 2: So I'm I'm truly frazzled. I like, I'm like, I 723 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 2: need a moment. The cop tells me to wash my face. 724 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 2: He was like, you take you can wash your face. 725 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 2: Do what you need to do. Like all right, So 726 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:28,479 Speaker 2: I go inside, put like clothes on, and go over 727 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,800 Speaker 2: and pick up my car. And sure enough, it was 728 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 2: just sitting in this this driveway and it was empty, 729 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 2: like they had stolen everything out of the car. But 730 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 2: I had the car, which is all I cared about. 731 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 2: And I guess the thing that I've never said before 732 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 2: is that I some part of me is grateful because 733 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:52,760 Speaker 2: the car has truly never been so clean. It's like immaculate, 734 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 2: like they took everything, and it's like I thought I 735 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 2: would feel like scared knowing someone had been in it, 736 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 2: and I'm like, I couldn't be happier. It's spotless in there. 737 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,879 Speaker 1: So are you inviting people to steal more of your things? 738 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,400 Speaker 2: Sure? Yeah, the classic thing where I'm like, wow, I 739 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 2: didn't care about anything in the car, Like I literally 740 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 2: don't care that any of it's gone, and that I 741 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 2: guess that's the thing I've never said before is I'm 742 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 2: grateful that it was taken and returned. 743 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 1: Okay, yes, you know you could clean up from a 744 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 1: car wash. 745 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 2: It's true. I've now learned. I'm like, I will never 746 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 2: put anything in this car because it feels so much 747 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 2: better being empty. 748 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,839 Speaker 1: Good for you. What an eye opening, life changing experience. 749 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 2: Wait, the final detail I will say is that it 750 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 2: actually wasn't empty, because like a few hours later, I 751 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 2: was parked and I sort of leaned over and I 752 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 2: saw like something glinting from the passenger seat, and I 753 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 2: looked down and the robber had left their cell phone 754 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:02,280 Speaker 2: and a receipt from Smart and Final where they bought beer. 755 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 2: And so yeah, I've literally I've been like calling the 756 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 2: police being trying to tell them that I have evidence, 757 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 2: but they won't answer. But I have their phone and 758 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 2: a receipt and a clean car and a very clean car. 759 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: Yes, it is your year. Good for you, Thank you, 760 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 1: good for you. Oh my god, Myles, I cannot have 761 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,799 Speaker 1: enjoyed this conversation more same. 762 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. 763 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,720 Speaker 1: Thank you for hanging out, Thank you for the show. 764 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 1: Everybody watch it. 765 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 2: October ninth, Yes, October ninth, on Netflix boots. 766 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: Here we go, watch it. Let's go, all right, my man? 767 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 1: Until next time? 768 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 2: All right, well, thank you. 769 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 1: I've Never Said This Before is hosted by Me, Tommy Didario. 770 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:49,320 Speaker 1: This podcast is executive produced by Andrew Publisi at iHeartRadio 771 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 1: and by me Tommy, with editing by Joshua Colaudney. I've 772 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 1: Never Said This Before is part of the Elvis Duran 773 00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: podcast Network on iHeart Podcasts. For more, rate review and 774 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 1: subscribe to our show and if you liked this episode, 775 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: tell your friends. Until next time, I'm Tommy Diderio