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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>Getty Armstrong and Jettiating and he Armstrong and Yetty.

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<v Speaker 1>And they arnt gon estapians transgender just because you've stripped

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<v Speaker 1>them from sports or from housing, or from their healthcare

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<v Speaker 1>or any other public place that you don't want us

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<v Speaker 1>to be. And so members make no mistake that this

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<v Speaker 1>is just another version of state sanctioned bullying and genocide.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't say that lightly lightly. You don't say

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<v Speaker 2>it lightly.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a crazy Democrat representative in Minnesota, which is not

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<v Speaker 3>surprising because that's one of your crazier left states. Banning

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<v Speaker 3>dudes from participating in girls' sports is a genocide. And

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<v Speaker 3>I don't say that lightly. There was so much crazy

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<v Speaker 3>in that clip.

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<v Speaker 4>We could spend the rest of the show teasing it

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<v Speaker 4>or parsing it. The whole play the beginning again, Michael,

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<v Speaker 4>just the first half or so.

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<v Speaker 1>And they aren't going to stop being transgender just because

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<v Speaker 1>you've stripped them from sports or from housing or from

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<v Speaker 1>their house.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll stop there, all right, all right, Wow, They're not

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<v Speaker 4>going to stop being transgender. Nobody is talking about that.

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<v Speaker 4>I would like to see people get mental health care

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<v Speaker 4>and address the real problems in their lives, so they

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<v Speaker 4>didn't indulge in the fantasy that they're transgender. But nobody's

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<v Speaker 4>talking about that. They're not going to stop being transgender

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<v Speaker 4>if you keep them out of sports again, not the goal.

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<v Speaker 4>If you take away their housing. Wait a minute, Oh

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<v Speaker 4>my god, can you utter one single phrase that's not

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<v Speaker 4>completely psychotic?

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<v Speaker 2>Who's taking away transgender housing?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>What the hell?

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<v Speaker 4>It's so good that at least in a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>ways that point of view is on the back foot.

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<v Speaker 4>But not in academia, friends, and not in a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of government.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and this was a blow. So there was a

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<v Speaker 2>bill in the Senate to bar transgender women and girls

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<v Speaker 2>nationwide from prosser dudes. Dudes is the.

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<v Speaker 3>Term I was reading the bill from participating in school

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<v Speaker 3>athletic competitions designated for female athletes. It failed to advance

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<v Speaker 3>in the Senate as Democrats stood united. And it's one

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<v Speaker 3>of those deals where you need sixty votes. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>understand the Senate and which times you need fifty votes

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<v Speaker 3>and which times you need sixty votes, But this is

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<v Speaker 3>one of those where you need sixty votes and there

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<v Speaker 3>aren't enough Republicans, and they were hoping that they could

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<v Speaker 3>get you know, a half dozen Democrats to join on

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<v Speaker 3>what eighty five percent of Americans agree on. I do

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<v Speaker 3>not understand why, more like.

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<v Speaker 4>An eighty five to six issue.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not controversial. It's not a controversial issue. Why aren't

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<v Speaker 3>there enough Democrats where you're Democratic Senate or from you know,

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<v Speaker 3>some moderate state where you can come out and say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think boys should be played in girls sports. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>it was fifty one forty five Republicans over Democrats, but

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<v Speaker 3>didn't get to sixty. So now the Republicans have some different,

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<v Speaker 3>slightly differently worded bill they're trying to get through the House,

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<v Speaker 3>and then they'll come back to the Senatement. So the

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<v Speaker 3>battle's not over. But that's just shocking. Of course, this

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<v Speaker 3>is the thing I always like about politics. It's so

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<v Speaker 3>dang maddening that we play this game all the time,

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<v Speaker 3>and both sides do it. But so the Democrats reasoning

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<v Speaker 3>on this, we shouldn't have national rules.

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<v Speaker 2>For schools, Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>And now all of a sudden, you don't like the

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<v Speaker 3>federal government getting involved in the schools when we're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to get rid of the Department of Education, for instance,

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<v Speaker 3>you're horrified that you don't have federal control over the schools.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is the way politics works.

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<v Speaker 4>So three quick points, and you can take bets out

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<v Speaker 4>there whether I can remember all three of my points

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<v Speaker 4>by the time I'm at the third sorority.

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<v Speaker 2>Number one, just the rule of thumb.

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<v Speaker 4>It takes sixty votes in the Senate except when it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 4>So just memorize that and you'll be fine. Secondly, the

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<v Speaker 4>recent first Appeals Court, First Circuit Appeals Court ruling that

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<v Speaker 4>you're not violating parents rights by transitioning their child at

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<v Speaker 4>school and not telling them. I really want to dig

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<v Speaker 4>into that decision. I have the decision in front of me.

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<v Speaker 4>It's gonna be a longish segment. Maybe we can do

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<v Speaker 4>it hour four. Some folks don't get our four. You

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<v Speaker 4>can grab it by a podcast Armstrong and getting on demand.

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<v Speaker 4>Jack and I'll talk about it behind the scenes. But

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<v Speaker 4>it's really really interesting, and one of the points I

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<v Speaker 4>was going to make in analyzing the case is what

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<v Speaker 4>I want to make right now.

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<v Speaker 5>Republicans stop adopting the language of the progressive lunatics say

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<v Speaker 5>in the bill, there will be no boys or men

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<v Speaker 5>allowed in sports.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good idea for a variety of reasons, because

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<v Speaker 3>that would force a cord at some point to.

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<v Speaker 2>Define that, wouldn't it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, right, exactly, That's what I'm driving at, because you

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<v Speaker 4>have allowed the progressive left to smear the line between

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<v Speaker 4>sex and what they call gender and then claim that

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<v Speaker 4>women and men are just terms of gender, and your

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<v Speaker 4>gender is totally up to you. Therefore, any sex specific

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<v Speaker 4>laws are terrible and oppressive because people can change their

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<v Speaker 4>sex slash gender all the time, and you're letting them

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<v Speaker 4>play that game by not simply saying no men, men

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<v Speaker 4>and boys in women's and girls' sports. And then, as

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<v Speaker 4>Jack you indicated, at some point, somebody are gonna have

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<v Speaker 4>to say whoa whoao is a biological male, which is

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<v Speaker 4>a term I do not used because that's the only

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<v Speaker 4>kind of male that exists. Attacking biological onto it also

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<v Speaker 4>implies that there are many different sorts of males. So

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<v Speaker 4>you've given them the argument anyway. Yeah, you'll make the

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<v Speaker 4>court decide, Well, we got to differentiate between this whole

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<v Speaker 4>whatever the hell a gender means and sex, because we're

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<v Speaker 4>here talking about the sex of the person.

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<v Speaker 3>That would be something if a court and then this

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<v Speaker 3>could go clear up to the Supreme Court, where the

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<v Speaker 3>whole question is what's the definition of male and female?

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<v Speaker 3>Finally get to that, that'd be something.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Yeah, yeah, on that topic. I don't know you,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't get tired of this. More revelations coming out

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<v Speaker 4>as the doge guys and others paw through the the

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<v Speaker 4>just the stack of you know, accounting books as high

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<v Speaker 4>as the Empire State Building that shows everything that's been

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<v Speaker 4>spent by the federal government. Public theater in New York

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<v Speaker 4>City received more than half a million dollars in federal

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<v Speaker 4>funds from FEMA, the Literal Emergency Management Agency, to promote

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<v Speaker 4>anti racist and queer shows.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you like that those of you in North

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<v Speaker 3>Carolina who are still living intents after the flooding there

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<v Speaker 3>and all the problems with getting the FEMA money, they

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<v Speaker 3>spent half a million dollars on anti racist and queer

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<v Speaker 3>shows at a New York City theater.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, And it was all under the umbrella of the

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<v Speaker 4>COVID emergency and it's right there in the name FEMA emergency.

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<v Speaker 4>And so they were furnishing dollars to keep these theaters afloat.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe he thought that was good in general, maybe you didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>But FEMA money spent on transgendery queer up with whatever

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<v Speaker 4>shows I.

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<v Speaker 2>See, So he got a queer theater.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure it wasn't sustainable financially in any circumstance. But

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<v Speaker 3>during COVID they could claim we're going to go out

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<v Speaker 3>of business, so they got emergency funding from the taxpayer.

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<v Speaker 4>Fantastic. Yeah, Oh that reminds me. I've got to get

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<v Speaker 4>into that California slush fun story. But and it's funny.

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<v Speaker 4>I think this is as true as anything can be.

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<v Speaker 4>Yet I hesitated to bring it up, but it's a

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<v Speaker 4>piece by Scott Atlas. America still needs a COVID reckoning.

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<v Speaker 4>Why does nobody want to talk about the most tragic

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<v Speaker 4>breakdown of leadership and ethics in our lifetimes?

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<v Speaker 2>I remember early in the COVID.

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<v Speaker 4>Thing you brought us Jack the perspective that after the

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<v Speaker 4>great plague of the nineteen eighteen flu or whatever it

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<v Speaker 4>was called, nobody wanted to talk about it afterward. I

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<v Speaker 4>just want to move on because it's so damned depressing

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<v Speaker 4>and sad and disappointing.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems to me a human nature thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and so Scott Atlas is talking about and you

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<v Speaker 4>may remember him as one of the great dissenters during

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<v Speaker 4>the COVID thing, but he was at a conference that

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<v Speaker 4>focuses on the West's failure to cultivate its traditional values,

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<v Speaker 4>which provided the world with history's most successful societies, essentially

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<v Speaker 4>defending the principles.

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<v Speaker 2>Of Western civilization.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, I asked the audience, why, at this moment in history,

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<v Speaker 4>Scott Rice, are we asking how institutions should be reformed

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<v Speaker 4>or if they even can be For decades, we have

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<v Speaker 4>been aware that institutions were failing incompetent, wasteful and corrupt governments,

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<v Speaker 4>biased and dishonest journalism, agenda driven schools and universities. So

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<v Speaker 4>why now? My answer is COVID. The mismanagement of the

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<v Speaker 4>pandemic hit us personally and exposed a massive, across the

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<v Speaker 4>board institutional failure. It was the most tragic breakdown of

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<v Speaker 4>leadership and ethics that free societies have seen in our lifetimes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yet oddly, the topic remained almost invisible at the week

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<v Speaker 4>long conference, unmentioned by dozens of speakers. It was the

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<v Speaker 4>elephant in the room, just as lockdowns and mandates are

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<v Speaker 4>missing from almost all of America's discussion of post election plans.

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<v Speaker 4>And then you know, there's what time is it? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>we got time for this. This is so good to

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<v Speaker 4>understand why the pandemic finally forced us to address institutional failure.

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<v Speaker 4>We must acknowledge the facts. And Jack, this will warm

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<v Speaker 4>your heart because we've been howling this for years. The

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<v Speaker 4>virus didn't cause lockdowns. Human beings decided to impose lockdowns,

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<v Speaker 4>which failed to stop the deaths, and the spread lockdowns

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<v Speaker 4>inflicted massive damage on children and literally killed people. Or

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<v Speaker 4>a view of thirty four countries with available data found

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<v Speaker 4>that through July of twenty three, the US alone would

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<v Speaker 4>have had one point six million fewer deaths if it

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<v Speaker 4>had the performance of Sweden. Wow, and he goes on

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<v Speaker 4>to some more statistics to back up that that statement.

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<v Speaker 4>But more than massive incompetence by our bureaucrats, more than

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<v Speaker 4>a lack of critical thinking, we saw a failure of

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<v Speaker 4>society's moral and ethical compass so pervasive that we have

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<v Speaker 4>lost trust in most institutions and leaders, trust that is

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<v Speaker 4>essential to the function of any free and diverse society,

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<v Speaker 4>especially in the US, where the Declaration of Independence claims

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<v Speaker 4>endowed by.

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<v Speaker 2>Our creator, et cetera, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 4>It's stunning that liberty fell so quickly and thoroughly by

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<v Speaker 4>government decree and with public assent. And there's a lot more.

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<v Speaker 4>We've been hammering this point so long. Part of me

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<v Speaker 4>hesitates to, you know, hammer it again, but.

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<v Speaker 2>It's destined for the history books. Man. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me hit you with Scott Atlas's summary his final paragraph, rather, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>there is a disastrous lack of courage in our society.

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<v Speaker 2>To quote C. S.

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<v Speaker 4>the form of every virtue at the testing point. We

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<v Speaker 4>can't have a peaceful, free society if it is filled

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<v Speaker 4>with people who lack the courage to speak and act

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<v Speaker 4>with certainty on Hannah Lawrence elementary questions of morality, Google it.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why we must reckon with the madness of our

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<v Speaker 4>COVID response.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I get so frustrated if I start thinking about that.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't hardly handle it. So yeah, that might be

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<v Speaker 3>one of the reasons people don't want to engage. So

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<v Speaker 3>we're in a trade war with Mexico and Canada. China also,

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<v Speaker 3>but different topic. And Trudeau had just is given a

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<v Speaker 3>big speech right now and taking questions with his highlighted

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<v Speaker 3>hair and his very tight suit. Some of the things

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<v Speaker 3>he said kind of interesting. Among other things, I hope

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<v Speaker 3>you have purchased all the hockey pucks you need yesterday

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<v Speaker 3>because they're expensive today.

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<v Speaker 2>More on the way, stay tuned. He getting behind me are.

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<v Speaker 6>One hundred circles with one hundred people inside of them.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't care if this takes weeks, months, or even

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<v Speaker 6>eight year. The last one of you to leave is

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<v Speaker 6>your circle. Win's that five hundred thousand dollars. The rules

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<v Speaker 6>are simple. If at any point you cross the red

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<v Speaker 6>line around your circle, you lose half a million dollars.

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<v Speaker 6>That challenge has a actually started.

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<v Speaker 2>Hug your dad, Hug your dad, your son.

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<v Speaker 5>Just what happened?

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<v Speaker 2>Million dollars?

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<v Speaker 3>That's mister beast, who's the biggest thing in the world

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<v Speaker 3>in entertainment, whether you know who he is or not.

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<v Speaker 3>And uh, one of the many contests that he has

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<v Speaker 3>where he just you're just standing in a circle, and

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<v Speaker 3>whoever can stand in the circle the longest hunger need

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<v Speaker 3>to go to the bathroom, whatever your issues are. Whoever

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<v Speaker 3>can stay in the circle the longest wins a half

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<v Speaker 3>a million dollars. In this eleven year old kid won.

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<v Speaker 3>And the way mister Beast does it too, Unlike other contests,

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<v Speaker 3>he pays your taxes and stuff, so you actually get

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<v Speaker 3>the half a million dollars. Like if you if you

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<v Speaker 3>win a car on most you know you want a

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<v Speaker 3>car on the price is right, you immediately find out, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>I got to sell the car because I owe you know,

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<v Speaker 3>this two hundred thousand dollars car, I one hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 3>dollars and taxes.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have it if I want to keep the car.

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<v Speaker 2>So I got to sell the car.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I was selling it slightly used so then

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<v Speaker 3>and I couldn't even if I could keep the car,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't afford the car insurance.

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<v Speaker 2>He pays the car.

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<v Speaker 3>If you get a car from mister Beast, he pays

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<v Speaker 3>the car insurance and the taxes and all that sort

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<v Speaker 3>of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So you actually get to keep the prize, which.

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<v Speaker 3>Is one of the reasons he's so successful with his

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<v Speaker 3>eight quad trillion YouTube followers and all that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So how long was the kid in the circle? I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I I'd like to know that.

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<v Speaker 3>I've watched a bunch of these my kids before his

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<v Speaker 3>before his number two is Ed McMahon or whatever you

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<v Speaker 3>want to call him, turn trans. My kids used to

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<v Speaker 3>watch mister Beast all the time, and we watch a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of these contests and they're very entertaining as he

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<v Speaker 3>edits them down and everything like that. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll look into that. How long did you have to

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<v Speaker 3>stand in the circle to win a half million dollars?

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<v Speaker 3>What's an eleven year old going to do with a

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<v Speaker 3>half a million dollars? Lots and lots of gummy bears?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm guessing.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope they're American and not from Canada or he'll

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<v Speaker 3>have to pay too much of them with the damn

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<v Speaker 3>trade war going on. So justin Trudeau, Uh, he's given

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<v Speaker 3>a press conference right now. He said Trump is a

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<v Speaker 3>very smart guy, but this is a dumb thing to do.

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<v Speaker 3>At midnight last night, twenty five percent tariffs went into

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<v Speaker 3>effect on Canada and Mexico. The president of Mexico has

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<v Speaker 3>avowed retaliation and she is going to announce on Sunday

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<v Speaker 3>in that big central square. What do they call him

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<v Speaker 3>in Mexico zokolo, ziccolo. I've never known how to pronounce

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<v Speaker 3>it in the historic Old City, which if you've never

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<v Speaker 3>been there, is very very cool. She's going to have

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<v Speaker 3>a big rally there on Sunday and announce all the

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<v Speaker 3>things that Mexico is going to about to put a

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<v Speaker 3>tariff on on American.

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<v Speaker 2>Goods to try to retaliate old on. Here come.

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<v Speaker 4>So Domingo in the ziccolo, I will mark it on McKellen.

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<v Speaker 2>Domingo means Sunday.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, And it's unfortunate because I have a savado Giagante

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<v Speaker 4>planned a giant Saturday night.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, I'm already a little El Gordo. So

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<v Speaker 3>if it's all on a food I shouldn't eat, that's

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<v Speaker 3>fine with me.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, back to Canada, where they speak English, Trudeau said

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<v Speaker 3>Trump is a smart guy, but this is a dumb

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<v Speaker 3>thing to do. He said to Americans, your government has

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<v Speaker 3>done has done this to you. He has put your

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<v Speaker 3>US jobs at risk and has chosen to harm US

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<v Speaker 3>national security. So that's the message from pretty boy Justin Trudeau, who.

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<v Speaker 4>Certainly has agreement at the Wall Street Journal editorial board.

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<v Speaker 4>They're true, really, really concerned. This is going to backfire

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<v Speaker 4>back badly something to what I'll find out together. I

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<v Speaker 4>wonder which of the many diseases floating around the United

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<v Speaker 4>States I have. I wish there was a test for

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<v Speaker 4>that sort of thing. A lot of these things he

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<v Speaker 4>can't really test for, right, Yeah, they'd have to design

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<v Speaker 4>it specifically, at the cost of many, many dollars and

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<v Speaker 4>even more thanks to Trump's tariffs or not, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Zelenski put out a new statement about Ukraine in the

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<v Speaker 3>United States.

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<v Speaker 2>When we retouch on that story at some point, it

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<v Speaker 2>is a major statement.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we can hit that next hour or next segment

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<v Speaker 4>and a little more on how the tariffs are likely

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<v Speaker 4>to affect your pocket book.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the end significantly. I think everybody wonders Armstrong and Getty,

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<v Speaker 2>But what do you need to see from President's Lensky.

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<v Speaker 7>Look, I think the most important thing A lot of

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<v Speaker 7>people have made this about public statements. President's Lenski needs

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<v Speaker 7>to say that he's committed to the peace, or President

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<v Speaker 7>Zelenski needs to apologize to the President.

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<v Speaker 2>The public stuff doesn't.

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<v Speaker 7>Matter nearly as much as what are the Ukrainians doing

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<v Speaker 7>to meaningfully engage on what a peaceful settlement would look like.

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<v Speaker 7>We need the Ukrainians privately to come to us and say,

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<v Speaker 7>this is what we need, this is what we want,

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<v Speaker 7>this is how we're going to participate in the process

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<v Speaker 7>to end this conflict.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the most important thing.

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<v Speaker 7>And that lack of private engagement is what is most

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<v Speaker 7>concerning to us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, I can't wait to read the books about this.

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<v Speaker 4>That is not a statement of He's dead to us,

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<v Speaker 4>not even close.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you're right about that.

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<v Speaker 3>I also none of us have any idea what the

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<v Speaker 3>behind the scenes conversations are here right right Based on

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<v Speaker 3>polling I've seen, Ukrainian people are all for continuing to fight.

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<v Speaker 3>So and as we would be, as you would be

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<v Speaker 3>if some bastard like Putin had taken twenty percent of

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<v Speaker 3>your country and kidnapped your children and killed half your family.

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<v Speaker 2>And tortured your men.

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<v Speaker 3>The idea of oh, we'll sign a deal with them

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<v Speaker 3>where he gets to keep the land, keep the kids,

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<v Speaker 3>pays no penalty really for murdering and raping half my family,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm supposed to just be happy with.

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<v Speaker 4>That I know, and it astounds me the number of

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<v Speaker 4>Americans who are insisting that they ought to do that

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<v Speaker 4>we would fight for the next five hundred years.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I would personally.

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<v Speaker 3>But the alternative to what I just said is there's

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<v Speaker 3>just no world in which it gets any better than

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<v Speaker 3>the deal I just stated.

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<v Speaker 2>That is also true. One more clip from JD. Vance.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you expected you maybe more sanctions in Russia or

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<v Speaker 3>any other steps to pressure of ball size, if you

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<v Speaker 3>want to have them on an education Well, I.

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<v Speaker 7>Don't think that's right, actually, I mean, we still have

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<v Speaker 7>a number of sanctions that are placed on the Russians.

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<v Speaker 4>We do believe that.

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<v Speaker 7>The Russians economically are struggling because of this conflict.

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<v Speaker 2>We do believe that it's.

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<v Speaker 7>In Russia's best interest, but also Ukraine and the United

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<v Speaker 7>States's best interest, to bring this conflict to a close.

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<v Speaker 7>So we believe in applying pressure to everybody to stop

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<v Speaker 7>the killing, because that's what the President's policy is, and

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<v Speaker 7>that's what'sn't the best interest.

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<v Speaker 2>In the American people.

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<v Speaker 4>So the Zolen Scheme made a statement the other day

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<v Speaker 4>or yesterday whenever it was, that he thought the war

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<v Speaker 4>would be going on for a long Time play clip

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<v Speaker 4>thirty three, Michael, this is Trump's response to.

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<v Speaker 8>That President Zelensky supposedly made a saatement today in AP.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm not a big fan of AP, so maybe it

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<v Speaker 8>was an incorrect sabment. But he said he thinks it

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<v Speaker 8>was gonna go on for a long time, and he'd.

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<v Speaker 2>Better not be right about that. That's all I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>So Zelenski himself has tweeted, which is a thing these

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<v Speaker 4>days in international diplomacy. I would like to I would

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<v Speaker 4>like to reiterate Ukraine's commitment to peace. None of us

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<v Speaker 4>wants an endless war. Ukraine is ready to come to

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<v Speaker 4>the negotiating table as soon as possible to bring lasting

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<v Speaker 4>piece closer. Nobody wants peace more than Ukrainians. My team

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<v Speaker 4>and I stand ready to work under President Trump's strong

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<v Speaker 4>leadership to get a piece that lasts. We are ready

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<v Speaker 4>to work fast to end the war, and the first

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<v Speaker 4>stages could be the release of prisoners in truce in

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<v Speaker 4>the sky, dan on missiles, long range drones, bombs on

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<v Speaker 4>energy and other civilian infrastructure, and truce in the sea immediately.

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<v Speaker 4>If Russia will do the same, then we want to

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<v Speaker 4>move very fast through all the next stage to work

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<v Speaker 4>with the US to agree to a strong final deal.

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<v Speaker 4>We do really value how much America has done to

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<v Speaker 4>help Ukraine maintain its sovereignty and independence, and we remember

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<v Speaker 4>the moment when things changed when President Trump provided Ukraine

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<v Speaker 4>with javelins. We are grateful for this our meeting in Washington.

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<v Speaker 4>That the White House on Friday did not go the

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<v Speaker 4>way it was supposed to. It is regrettable that it

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<v Speaker 4>happened this way. It's time to make things right. We

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<v Speaker 4>would like future cooperation and communication to be constructive. And finally,

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<v Speaker 4>regarding the agreement on minerals and security, Ukraine is ready

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<v Speaker 4>to sign it any time and in any convenient format.

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<v Speaker 4>We see this agreement as a step forward toward greater

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<v Speaker 4>security and solid security guarantees, and I truly hope it

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<v Speaker 4>will work effectively.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the back channel communication between US in Russia? Has

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<v Speaker 3>putin got any interest in any of this or we

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<v Speaker 3>just assuming he does that he doesn't think, Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not going to sign a deal for keeping the twenty

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<v Speaker 3>percent I took because I want thirty percent or fifty

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<v Speaker 3>percent or all of.

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<v Speaker 4>It well right, and gosh, my adversaries really most important

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<v Speaker 4>by far patron has announced that they're not super interested

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<v Speaker 4>in backing my adversary anymore and are pulling back on it,

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<v Speaker 4>and just said, we're going to stop arm shipments. So

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<v Speaker 4>I'm supposed to stop fighting, right And as we explain

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<v Speaker 4>that to me, he says Vlad And we played Ian

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<v Speaker 4>Bremer earlier, who said he doesn't believe Europe's going to

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<v Speaker 4>stand up and protect themselves, so why.

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<v Speaker 2>Would Putin stop?

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<v Speaker 3>His goal might be within range of actually taking over

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<v Speaker 3>the country. Either there are measures behind the scenes that

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<v Speaker 3>Trump is considering that are extremely hard on Russia, or

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<v Speaker 3>this doesn't make any sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And.

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<v Speaker 3>Having read David Sanger's book in Bob Woodward's book about

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of the behind the scenes on this and

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<v Speaker 3>other things during the Biden presidency, often have no.

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<v Speaker 2>Idea what's going on. You just don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, true, And I realized that in one form or

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<v Speaker 4>another there was a lot of discussion of British and

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<v Speaker 4>or French troops being on the ground in Ukraine, which

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<v Speaker 4>is interesting to try to square with the whole Putin

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<v Speaker 4>was justified in invading Ukraine because they'd made too many

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<v Speaker 4>notices about Jane joining NATO and he couldn't have that,

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<v Speaker 4>so it was justified. Well, when there are NATO troops

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<v Speaker 4>on the ground in Ukraine, like facing off with his guys,

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<v Speaker 4>that's going to be better. Yeah, I like you say,

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<v Speaker 4>surely there are things going on behind the scenes that

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<v Speaker 4>we don't know about. That makes sense, because again, disarming

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<v Speaker 4>Putin's opponent and saying there, now, let's go to the

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<v Speaker 4>bargaining table just doesn't make any sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Nope.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>The biggest story of the day that personally affects you

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<v Speaker 3>the fastest is clearly this tariff thing that kicked in

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<v Speaker 3>at midnight last night, twenty five percent tariffs on Mexico

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<v Speaker 3>and Canada. Trudeau me Androgynoust, Prime Minister of Canada. Why

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<v Speaker 3>do I always need to say something like that, Well, just.

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<v Speaker 4>Because he's a member of the LGBT lgt P, LGBT

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<v Speaker 4>lgt LBG LGBTQ two plus.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't like his politics and he annoys me.

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<v Speaker 3>But anyway, he said in a press conference just a

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<v Speaker 3>few minutes ago, I won't sugarcoat it.

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<v Speaker 4>This is gonna be tough. Yeah, yeah, how tough for

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<v Speaker 4>you personally? And why coming up in a couple of minutes,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe again, this could all be over by noon, you

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<v Speaker 4>know tomorrow. The way Trump operates, it's hard to say. So,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we mock cable news all the time for

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<v Speaker 4>engaging in these long, serious discussions about a hypothetical that's

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<v Speaker 4>never gonna come to roost.

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<v Speaker 2>But the tariffs have been in Poe. Yeah, that's not

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<v Speaker 2>a hypothetical, right right.

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<v Speaker 4>A lasting impact is hypothetical, definitely, But at some point,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, he imposed them, so can we talk about

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<v Speaker 4>what it will mean? Spicy times, friends, Spicy times. I'd say.

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<v Speaker 4>My son is at home six, so I keep texting

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<v Speaker 4>back and forth with him. He sounds quite miserable, one

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<v Speaker 4>of the many illnesses floating around my other son. This

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<v Speaker 4>is an interesting thing, have you ever I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>we ever dealt with this. When I was in school,

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<v Speaker 4>none of our teams were very good in any sport.

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<v Speaker 4>But they've got a team at my son's high school

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<v Speaker 4>that is doing very well and going through the state

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<v Speaker 4>tournament and marching through. It's very disruptive to a school

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<v Speaker 4>when you have a team that does well, because there's

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<v Speaker 4>constantly games that everybody goes to or they I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>they let everybody not go to school on Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>To attend one of the games. They're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>doing that with the coming game stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I never realized how disruptive it is if you have

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<v Speaker 3>like a hot football team or basketball team or something

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<v Speaker 3>like that kind of throws things off on the old

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<v Speaker 3>education end of things for a while.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, which is going great in America already, so we

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<v Speaker 4>had plenty of slack to pick. Then they have rallies.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to have your pep rallied. I question your pep.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got spirit? How about you? That whole thing?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, absolutely, you know we're the Tigers, you're the Lions,

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<v Speaker 3>or you the Tigers and we're the Lions. I can't

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<v Speaker 3>keep it straight. And we have school pride and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 4>Right right, and you apparently lack it at least that's

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<v Speaker 4>what we're alleging.

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<v Speaker 2>Answer to this is awaited Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>The whole school pride in high school thing is is

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<v Speaker 3>hilarious looking back on it.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean to the point that if you're from Central

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<v Speaker 4>and you run into guys from South there there could

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<v Speaker 4>be a fight because you know, the guys from South

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<v Speaker 4>and they're weird Southern ways or southern or just a

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<v Speaker 4>mile away.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I guess there's no different than professional level sports,

0:27:50.640 --> 0:27:52.960
<v Speaker 3>and it makes more sense at least it's people who

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<v Speaker 3>live in your town as opposed to a million exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, So coming up next segment, a bit of a

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<v Speaker 4>look at the tariffs how they might affect you, plus

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<v Speaker 4>and this is shocking, friends, I hope you're not too

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<v Speaker 4>terribly surprised by this. America's trust in mass media has

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<v Speaker 4>hit the lowest point in more than fifty years.

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<v Speaker 3>That is shocking. Who could have predicted that? All that

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<v Speaker 3>on the way to stay here are strong?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, geddy, we're telling people and showing people about our power.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is what we say when we fight. We

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<v Speaker 2>get away where we fight, were where we fight.

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<v Speaker 1>And now we say to Trump and Elan, are you

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<v Speaker 1>bitter for this faith?

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<v Speaker 4>It's rare that you see dumbness and evil combined in

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<v Speaker 4>such an impressive way as Maxine Waters represents.

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<v Speaker 2>But she's something. So if you're just joining us.

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<v Speaker 3>For the past three and a half hours, we've been

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<v Speaker 3>talking about the Smoot Holly Terrriff Act of nineteen thirty.

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<v Speaker 4>It's been fast wrapped up. Smoots roll in it time

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<v Speaker 4>to move on to Hally.

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<v Speaker 3>We have new tariffs in place, as of midnight last night,

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<v Speaker 3>twenty five percent on Canada, twenty five percent on Mexico.

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<v Speaker 4>Pretty little Justin Trudeau has an opinion on it, and

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<v Speaker 4>then we will discuss a first clip.

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<v Speaker 2>Please, Michael sixty seven, I.

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<v Speaker 9>Want to speak first directly to the American people. We

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<v Speaker 9>don't want this. We want to work with you as

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<v Speaker 9>a friend and ally, and we don't want to see

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<v Speaker 9>you hurt either. But your government has chosen to do

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<v Speaker 9>this to you. They've chosen to launch a trade war

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<v Speaker 9>that will first and foremost harm American families. They've chosen

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<v Speaker 9>to sabotage their own agenda that was supposed to usher

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<v Speaker 9>in a new golden age for the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>On wad your panies, Justin.

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<v Speaker 4>It pains me enormously to agree with just and Trudeau

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<v Speaker 4>on anything. I am mystified by, especially the tariffs on Canada,

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<v Speaker 4>because Trump is cited the emergency of illegal immigration and

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<v Speaker 4>fentanyl as the pretext for the tariffs, because there needs

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<v Speaker 4>to be an emergency for the President to do this.

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<v Speaker 4>Course will weigh in and interpret all this sooner or later.

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<v Speaker 4>But the fraction of fentanyl that comes across Canada is very,

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<v Speaker 4>very small. Well that Canadian border and immigration is practically

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<v Speaker 4>that's just the legal reason. We should put that to decide.

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<v Speaker 4>What's the economic theory? What's Trump hoping to accomplish there? Well,

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<v Speaker 4>that's exactly what I'm leading to. So what is the

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<v Speaker 4>actual reason? Best I can come up with is and

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<v Speaker 4>I heard Whuna here talking about this, some of the

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<v Speaker 4>Trump team might think that they can help reduce the

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<v Speaker 4>deficit by taking in enormous amounts of tariff revenue over

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<v Speaker 4>the short to medium term before too much damage is

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<v Speaker 4>done to the economy.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, like, for instance, I don't claim to know anything

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<v Speaker 3>about this, but I was listening to a news report

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<v Speaker 3>about how much lumber we get out of Canada because

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<v Speaker 3>it's cheaper than the lumber in the United States. No,

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<v Speaker 3>We've got plenty of lumber in the Great Northwest, Oregon,

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<v Speaker 3>Washington to provide our own lumber, and these tariffs will

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<v Speaker 3>make it more likely that we use American lumber and

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<v Speaker 3>that will ultimately be good for us. That was one

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<v Speaker 3>argument that will be good for the timber industry. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>It's like.

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<v Speaker 4>The tariffs on steel and aluminum will help twenty thousand

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<v Speaker 4>steel and illuminum workers and hurt fifty million people who

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<v Speaker 4>consume the products made of that steel and aluminum, and

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<v Speaker 4>or manufacture products with the steel and aluminum, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, Usa, USA.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm pleased, I'm at the front of the parade, but

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<v Speaker 4>I don't understand how me paying more for American timber.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, because we're talking about like our closest friend

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<v Speaker 4>and ally.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, most pundits that I like don't agree with Trump

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<v Speaker 3>on this. But Trump is not a dumb guy, as

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<v Speaker 3>Trudeau just said, and he's not you know, he's not

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<v Speaker 3>trying to commit political suicide.

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<v Speaker 2>So what does he think is gonna happen?

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<v Speaker 4>There are folks with some have to think tariffs and

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<v Speaker 4>protectionism actually will work out in the long term in

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<v Speaker 4>a way that will be beneficial to the whole country for.

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<v Speaker 2>Long term a year, or ten years, or a century.

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<v Speaker 2>See that's the problem.

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<v Speaker 4>To revive certain sectors of the American manufacturing economy, you

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<v Speaker 4>would have to have like rock solid assurance to the

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<v Speaker 4>companies that are either going to move plants here or

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<v Speaker 4>build plants or start plants whatever, that they've got at

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<v Speaker 4>least fifteen years that they can count on stability. And

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<v Speaker 4>there's no way Trump is one termer can guarantee that so.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you know what's interesting is there are loads

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<v Speaker 4>and loads of people who are more than happy to

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<v Speaker 4>point out that you're stupid idiots you just still like Trump.

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<v Speaker 4>And then half the time it's your stupid idiots you

0:33:10.280 --> 0:33:14.400
<v Speaker 4>like Trump too much anyway. Uh, I haven't run into

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of cogent arguments in favor of this, especially

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<v Speaker 4>Canada Mexico. Yeah, we've exported a fair amount of manufacturing

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<v Speaker 4>to them, maybe too much, maybe too much globalism. I

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<v Speaker 4>am absolutely sympathetic to those arguments, but you got to

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<v Speaker 4>tell me how it's going to work for me to

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<v Speaker 4>swallow that pill, especially given the political and just practical

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<v Speaker 4>reality that inflation is killing everybody, has killed everybody, and

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<v Speaker 4>prices are rising at a lower rate, but they're still rising,

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<v Speaker 4>which is practically inevitable. But we got to keep that

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<v Speaker 4>rate of inflation low as possible while wages rise. And

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<v Speaker 4>this could hurt the economy, the fact that the market's

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<v Speaker 4>down significantly the last two days, it goes down, it

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<v Speaker 4>comes up again. They hate uncertainty, and this is a

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<v Speaker 4>period of uncertainty. I'm not gonna leap to any confusions,

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<v Speaker 4>but I'm having a really hard time finding anybody to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>this a really good idea hammering Canada and Mexico with

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<v Speaker 4>these tariffs. They point out in the Wall Street Journal,

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<v Speaker 4>which is of course pro business, and you could argue

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<v Speaker 4>pro globalism, I suppose, although I think they do a

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<v Speaker 4>pretty good job of going through the arguments here. But

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<v Speaker 4>they think the twenty five percent teriffyle raised the cost

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<v Speaker 4>of a full sized suv assemblant in North America by

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<v Speaker 4>nine thousand dollars and a pickup truck by eights.

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<v Speaker 3>Whoa whoo whoo, whoa whoa, whoa who who raise the

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<v Speaker 3>price from where it is currently by nine thousand more dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>And a pickup truck by about eight grand.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so a seventy grand truck is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>almost eighty grand.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's the analysis by the Anderson Economic Group. I

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<v Speaker 4>take all this stuff with a grain of salt. Again,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not finding good arguments so well.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously if that were true, that would be amazingly disruptive.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy cow.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, They're concern is that mister Trump is whacking friends,

0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:18.800
<v Speaker 4>not adversaries, because again, the China stuff's in a different box.

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<v Speaker 2>Do whatever you want to China. They are our enemy.

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<v Speaker 4>They're trying to ruin us that his taxes will hit

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<v Speaker 4>every cross border transaction. And the North American vehicle market

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<v Speaker 4>is so interconnected that some cars cross a border as

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<v Speaker 4>many as eight times as they're assembled.

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<v Speaker 3>So, I mean, if an SUV goes up by almost

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<v Speaker 3>ten grand a new suv, well people are gonna buy

0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:43.560
<v Speaker 3>used SUVs. And then of course that market will become

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<v Speaker 3>distorted and all kinds of repercussions will occur.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, and the big automakers will really suffer, and the

0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:54.399
<v Speaker 4>unions will be squealing. And this is a risky move.

0:35:54.440 --> 0:35:57.080
<v Speaker 4>Why don't we just all agree on that it's risky.

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<v Speaker 3>Huh, Yeah, I've died. This is not my area of

0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:03.239
<v Speaker 3>expertise at all, but it'll be something to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. Yeah, the economics is the dismal science.

0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:11.239
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