Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe.
Speaker 2: Getty Armstrong and Jettiating and he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 1: And they arnt gon estapians transgender just because you've stripped
Speaker 1: them from sports or from housing, or from their healthcare
Speaker 1: or any other public place that you don't want us
Speaker 1: to be. And so members make no mistake that this
Speaker 1: is just another version of state sanctioned bullying and genocide.
Speaker 2: And I don't say that lightly lightly. You don't say
Speaker 2: it lightly.
Speaker 3: That's a crazy Democrat representative in Minnesota, which is not
Speaker 3: surprising because that's one of your crazier left states. Banning
Speaker 3: dudes from participating in girls' sports is a genocide. And
Speaker 3: I don't say that lightly. There was so much crazy
Speaker 3: in that clip.
Speaker 4: We could spend the rest of the show teasing it
Speaker 4: or parsing it. The whole play the beginning again, Michael,
Speaker 4: just the first half or so.
Speaker 1: And they aren't going to stop being transgender just because
Speaker 1: you've stripped them from sports or from housing or from
Speaker 1: their house.
Speaker 4: We'll stop there, all right, all right, Wow, They're not
Speaker 4: going to stop being transgender. Nobody is talking about that.
Speaker 4: I would like to see people get mental health care
Speaker 4: and address the real problems in their lives, so they
Speaker 4: didn't indulge in the fantasy that they're transgender. But nobody's
Speaker 4: talking about that. They're not going to stop being transgender
Speaker 4: if you keep them out of sports again, not the goal.
Speaker 4: If you take away their housing. Wait a minute, Oh
Speaker 4: my god, can you utter one single phrase that's not
Speaker 4: completely psychotic?
Speaker 2: Who's taking away transgender housing?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: What the hell?
Speaker 4: It's so good that at least in a lot of
Speaker 4: ways that point of view is on the back foot.
Speaker 4: But not in academia, friends, and not in a lot
Speaker 4: of government.
Speaker 2: Well, and this was a blow. So there was a
Speaker 2: bill in the Senate to bar transgender women and girls
Speaker 2: nationwide from prosser dudes. Dudes is the.
Speaker 3: Term I was reading the bill from participating in school
Speaker 3: athletic competitions designated for female athletes. It failed to advance
Speaker 3: in the Senate as Democrats stood united. And it's one
Speaker 3: of those deals where you need sixty votes. I don't
Speaker 3: understand the Senate and which times you need fifty votes
Speaker 3: and which times you need sixty votes, But this is
Speaker 3: one of those where you need sixty votes and there
Speaker 3: aren't enough Republicans, and they were hoping that they could
Speaker 3: get you know, a half dozen Democrats to join on
Speaker 3: what eighty five percent of Americans agree on. I do
Speaker 3: not understand why, more like.
Speaker 4: An eighty five to six issue.
Speaker 3: It's not controversial. It's not a controversial issue. Why aren't
Speaker 3: there enough Democrats where you're Democratic Senate or from you know,
Speaker 3: some moderate state where you can come out and say, yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't think boys should be played in girls sports. Anyway,
Speaker 3: it was fifty one forty five Republicans over Democrats, but
Speaker 3: didn't get to sixty. So now the Republicans have some different,
Speaker 3: slightly differently worded bill they're trying to get through the House,
Speaker 3: and then they'll come back to the Senatement. So the
Speaker 3: battle's not over. But that's just shocking. Of course, this
Speaker 3: is the thing I always like about politics. It's so
Speaker 3: dang maddening that we play this game all the time,
Speaker 3: and both sides do it. But so the Democrats reasoning
Speaker 3: on this, we shouldn't have national rules.
Speaker 2: For schools, Oh my god.
Speaker 3: And now all of a sudden, you don't like the
Speaker 3: federal government getting involved in the schools when we're trying
Speaker 3: to get rid of the Department of Education, for instance,
Speaker 3: you're horrified that you don't have federal control over the schools.
Speaker 2: But this is the way politics works.
Speaker 4: So three quick points, and you can take bets out
Speaker 4: there whether I can remember all three of my points
Speaker 4: by the time I'm at the third sorority.
Speaker 2: Number one, just the rule of thumb.
Speaker 4: It takes sixty votes in the Senate except when it doesn't.
Speaker 4: So just memorize that and you'll be fine. Secondly, the
Speaker 4: recent first Appeals Court, First Circuit Appeals Court ruling that
Speaker 4: you're not violating parents rights by transitioning their child at
Speaker 4: school and not telling them. I really want to dig
Speaker 4: into that decision. I have the decision in front of me.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be a longish segment. Maybe we can do
Speaker 4: it hour four. Some folks don't get our four. You
Speaker 4: can grab it by a podcast Armstrong and getting on demand.
Speaker 4: Jack and I'll talk about it behind the scenes. But
Speaker 4: it's really really interesting, and one of the points I
Speaker 4: was going to make in analyzing the case is what
Speaker 4: I want to make right now.
Speaker 5: Republicans stop adopting the language of the progressive lunatics say
Speaker 5: in the bill, there will be no boys or men
Speaker 5: allowed in sports.
Speaker 3: That's a good idea for a variety of reasons, because
Speaker 3: that would force a cord at some point to.
Speaker 2: Define that, wouldn't it.
Speaker 4: Well, right, exactly, That's what I'm driving at, because you
Speaker 4: have allowed the progressive left to smear the line between
Speaker 4: sex and what they call gender and then claim that
Speaker 4: women and men are just terms of gender, and your
Speaker 4: gender is totally up to you. Therefore, any sex specific
Speaker 4: laws are terrible and oppressive because people can change their
Speaker 4: sex slash gender all the time, and you're letting them
Speaker 4: play that game by not simply saying no men, men
Speaker 4: and boys in women's and girls' sports. And then, as
Speaker 4: Jack you indicated, at some point, somebody are gonna have
Speaker 4: to say whoa whoao is a biological male, which is
Speaker 4: a term I do not used because that's the only
Speaker 4: kind of male that exists. Attacking biological onto it also
Speaker 4: implies that there are many different sorts of males. So
Speaker 4: you've given them the argument anyway. Yeah, you'll make the
Speaker 4: court decide, Well, we got to differentiate between this whole
Speaker 4: whatever the hell a gender means and sex, because we're
Speaker 4: here talking about the sex of the person.
Speaker 3: That would be something if a court and then this
Speaker 3: could go clear up to the Supreme Court, where the
Speaker 3: whole question is what's the definition of male and female?
Speaker 3: Finally get to that, that'd be something.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, yeah, on that topic. I don't know you,
Speaker 4: I don't get tired of this. More revelations coming out
Speaker 4: as the doge guys and others paw through the the
Speaker 4: just the stack of you know, accounting books as high
Speaker 4: as the Empire State Building that shows everything that's been
Speaker 4: spent by the federal government. Public theater in New York
Speaker 4: City received more than half a million dollars in federal
Speaker 4: funds from FEMA, the Literal Emergency Management Agency, to promote
Speaker 4: anti racist and queer shows.
Speaker 3: How do you like that those of you in North
Speaker 3: Carolina who are still living intents after the flooding there
Speaker 3: and all the problems with getting the FEMA money, they
Speaker 3: spent half a million dollars on anti racist and queer
Speaker 3: shows at a New York City theater.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: Right, And it was all under the umbrella of the
Speaker 4: COVID emergency and it's right there in the name FEMA emergency.
Speaker 4: And so they were furnishing dollars to keep these theaters afloat.
Speaker 4: Maybe he thought that was good in general, maybe you didn't.
Speaker 4: But FEMA money spent on transgendery queer up with whatever
Speaker 4: shows I.
Speaker 2: See, So he got a queer theater.
Speaker 3: I'm sure it wasn't sustainable financially in any circumstance. But
Speaker 3: during COVID they could claim we're going to go out
Speaker 3: of business, so they got emergency funding from the taxpayer.
Speaker 4: Fantastic. Yeah, Oh that reminds me. I've got to get
Speaker 4: into that California slush fun story. But and it's funny.
Speaker 4: I think this is as true as anything can be.
Speaker 4: Yet I hesitated to bring it up, but it's a
Speaker 4: piece by Scott Atlas. America still needs a COVID reckoning.
Speaker 4: Why does nobody want to talk about the most tragic
Speaker 4: breakdown of leadership and ethics in our lifetimes?
Speaker 2: I remember early in the COVID.
Speaker 4: Thing you brought us Jack the perspective that after the
Speaker 4: great plague of the nineteen eighteen flu or whatever it
Speaker 4: was called, nobody wanted to talk about it afterward. I
Speaker 4: just want to move on because it's so damned depressing
Speaker 4: and sad and disappointing.
Speaker 2: It seems to me a human nature thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so Scott Atlas is talking about and you
Speaker 4: may remember him as one of the great dissenters during
Speaker 4: the COVID thing, but he was at a conference that
Speaker 4: focuses on the West's failure to cultivate its traditional values,
Speaker 4: which provided the world with history's most successful societies, essentially
Speaker 4: defending the principles.
Speaker 2: Of Western civilization.
Speaker 4: Now, I asked the audience, why, at this moment in history,
Speaker 4: Scott Rice, are we asking how institutions should be reformed
Speaker 4: or if they even can be For decades, we have
Speaker 4: been aware that institutions were failing incompetent, wasteful and corrupt governments,
Speaker 4: biased and dishonest journalism, agenda driven schools and universities. So
Speaker 4: why now? My answer is COVID. The mismanagement of the
Speaker 4: pandemic hit us personally and exposed a massive, across the
Speaker 4: board institutional failure. It was the most tragic breakdown of
Speaker 4: leadership and ethics that free societies have seen in our lifetimes.
Speaker 4: Yet oddly, the topic remained almost invisible at the week
Speaker 4: long conference, unmentioned by dozens of speakers. It was the
Speaker 4: elephant in the room, just as lockdowns and mandates are
Speaker 4: missing from almost all of America's discussion of post election plans.
Speaker 4: And then you know, there's what time is it? Yeah,
Speaker 4: we got time for this. This is so good to
Speaker 4: understand why the pandemic finally forced us to address institutional failure.
Speaker 4: We must acknowledge the facts. And Jack, this will warm
Speaker 4: your heart because we've been howling this for years. The
Speaker 4: virus didn't cause lockdowns. Human beings decided to impose lockdowns,
Speaker 4: which failed to stop the deaths, and the spread lockdowns
Speaker 4: inflicted massive damage on children and literally killed people. Or
Speaker 4: a view of thirty four countries with available data found
Speaker 4: that through July of twenty three, the US alone would
Speaker 4: have had one point six million fewer deaths if it
Speaker 4: had the performance of Sweden. Wow, and he goes on
Speaker 4: to some more statistics to back up that that statement.
Speaker 4: But more than massive incompetence by our bureaucrats, more than
Speaker 4: a lack of critical thinking, we saw a failure of
Speaker 4: society's moral and ethical compass so pervasive that we have
Speaker 4: lost trust in most institutions and leaders, trust that is
Speaker 4: essential to the function of any free and diverse society,
Speaker 4: especially in the US, where the Declaration of Independence claims
Speaker 4: endowed by.
Speaker 2: Our creator, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 4: It's stunning that liberty fell so quickly and thoroughly by
Speaker 4: government decree and with public assent. And there's a lot more.
Speaker 4: We've been hammering this point so long. Part of me
Speaker 4: hesitates to, you know, hammer it again, but.
Speaker 2: It's destined for the history books. Man. Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Let me hit you with Scott Atlas's summary his final paragraph, rather, uh,
Speaker 4: there is a disastrous lack of courage in our society.
Speaker 2: To quote C. S.
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Speaker 4: the form of every virtue at the testing point. We
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I get so frustrated if I start thinking about that.
Speaker 3: I can't hardly handle it. So yeah, that might be
Speaker 3: one of the reasons people don't want to engage. So
Speaker 3: we're in a trade war with Mexico and Canada. China also,
Speaker 3: but different topic. And Trudeau had just is given a
Speaker 3: big speech right now and taking questions with his highlighted
Speaker 3: hair and his very tight suit. Some of the things
Speaker 3: he said kind of interesting. Among other things, I hope
Speaker 3: you have purchased all the hockey pucks you need yesterday
Speaker 3: because they're expensive today.
Speaker 2: More on the way, stay tuned. He getting behind me are.
Speaker 6: One hundred circles with one hundred people inside of them.
Speaker 6: I don't care if this takes weeks, months, or even
Speaker 6: eight year. The last one of you to leave is
Speaker 6: your circle. Win's that five hundred thousand dollars. The rules
Speaker 6: are simple. If at any point you cross the red
Speaker 6: line around your circle, you lose half a million dollars.
Speaker 6: That challenge has a actually started.
Speaker 2: Hug your dad, Hug your dad, your son.
Speaker 5: Just what happened?
Speaker 2: Million dollars?
Speaker 3: That's mister beast, who's the biggest thing in the world
Speaker 3: in entertainment, whether you know who he is or not.
Speaker 3: And uh, one of the many contests that he has
Speaker 3: where he just you're just standing in a circle, and
Speaker 3: whoever can stand in the circle the longest hunger need
Speaker 3: to go to the bathroom, whatever your issues are. Whoever
Speaker 3: can stay in the circle the longest wins a half
Speaker 3: a million dollars. In this eleven year old kid won.
Speaker 3: And the way mister Beast does it too, Unlike other contests,
Speaker 3: he pays your taxes and stuff, so you actually get
Speaker 3: the half a million dollars. Like if you if you
Speaker 3: win a car on most you know you want a
Speaker 3: car on the price is right, you immediately find out, Well,
Speaker 3: I got to sell the car because I owe you know,
Speaker 3: this two hundred thousand dollars car, I one hundred thousand
Speaker 3: dollars and taxes.
Speaker 2: I don't have it if I want to keep the car.
Speaker 2: So I got to sell the car.
Speaker 3: I mean I was selling it slightly used so then
Speaker 3: and I couldn't even if I could keep the car,
Speaker 3: I can't afford the car insurance.
Speaker 2: He pays the car.
Speaker 3: If you get a car from mister Beast, he pays
Speaker 3: the car insurance and the taxes and all that sort
Speaker 3: of stuff.
Speaker 2: So you actually get to keep the prize, which.
Speaker 3: Is one of the reasons he's so successful with his
Speaker 3: eight quad trillion YouTube followers and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2: So how long was the kid in the circle? I
Speaker 2: don't know. I I'd like to know that.
Speaker 3: I've watched a bunch of these my kids before his
Speaker 3: before his number two is Ed McMahon or whatever you
Speaker 3: want to call him, turn trans. My kids used to
Speaker 3: watch mister Beast all the time, and we watch a
Speaker 3: lot of these contests and they're very entertaining as he
Speaker 3: edits them down and everything like that. I don't know,
Speaker 3: I'll look into that. How long did you have to
Speaker 3: stand in the circle to win a half million dollars?
Speaker 3: What's an eleven year old going to do with a
Speaker 3: half a million dollars? Lots and lots of gummy bears?
Speaker 2: I'm guessing.
Speaker 3: I hope they're American and not from Canada or he'll
Speaker 3: have to pay too much of them with the damn
Speaker 3: trade war going on. So justin Trudeau, Uh, he's given
Speaker 3: a press conference right now. He said Trump is a
Speaker 3: very smart guy, but this is a dumb thing to do.
Speaker 3: At midnight last night, twenty five percent tariffs went into
Speaker 3: effect on Canada and Mexico. The president of Mexico has
Speaker 3: avowed retaliation and she is going to announce on Sunday
Speaker 3: in that big central square. What do they call him
Speaker 3: in Mexico zokolo, ziccolo. I've never known how to pronounce
Speaker 3: it in the historic Old City, which if you've never
Speaker 3: been there, is very very cool. She's going to have
Speaker 3: a big rally there on Sunday and announce all the
Speaker 3: things that Mexico is going to about to put a
Speaker 3: tariff on on American.
Speaker 2: Goods to try to retaliate old on. Here come.
Speaker 4: So Domingo in the ziccolo, I will mark it on McKellen.
Speaker 2: Domingo means Sunday.
Speaker 4: Yes, And it's unfortunate because I have a savado Giagante
Speaker 4: planned a giant Saturday night.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm already a little El Gordo. So
Speaker 3: if it's all on a food I shouldn't eat, that's
Speaker 3: fine with me.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Anyway, back to Canada, where they speak English, Trudeau said
Speaker 3: Trump is a smart guy, but this is a dumb
Speaker 3: thing to do. He said to Americans, your government has
Speaker 3: done has done this to you. He has put your
Speaker 3: US jobs at risk and has chosen to harm US
Speaker 3: national security. So that's the message from pretty boy Justin Trudeau, who.
Speaker 4: Certainly has agreement at the Wall Street Journal editorial board.
Speaker 4: They're true, really, really concerned. This is going to backfire
Speaker 4: back badly something to what I'll find out together. I
Speaker 4: wonder which of the many diseases floating around the United
Speaker 4: States I have. I wish there was a test for
Speaker 4: that sort of thing. A lot of these things he
Speaker 4: can't really test for, right, Yeah, they'd have to design
Speaker 4: it specifically, at the cost of many, many dollars and
Speaker 4: even more thanks to Trump's tariffs or not, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Zelenski put out a new statement about Ukraine in the
Speaker 3: United States.
Speaker 2: When we retouch on that story at some point, it
Speaker 2: is a major statement.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we can hit that next hour or next segment
Speaker 4: and a little more on how the tariffs are likely
Speaker 4: to affect your pocket book.
Speaker 2: Here's the end significantly. I think everybody wonders Armstrong and Getty,
Speaker 2: But what do you need to see from President's Lensky.
Speaker 7: Look, I think the most important thing A lot of
Speaker 7: people have made this about public statements. President's Lenski needs
Speaker 7: to say that he's committed to the peace, or President
Speaker 7: Zelenski needs to apologize to the President.
Speaker 2: The public stuff doesn't.
Speaker 7: Matter nearly as much as what are the Ukrainians doing
Speaker 7: to meaningfully engage on what a peaceful settlement would look like.
Speaker 7: We need the Ukrainians privately to come to us and say,
Speaker 7: this is what we need, this is what we want,
Speaker 7: this is how we're going to participate in the process
Speaker 7: to end this conflict.
Speaker 2: That is the most important thing.
Speaker 7: And that lack of private engagement is what is most
Speaker 7: concerning to us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I can't wait to read the books about this.
Speaker 4: That is not a statement of He's dead to us,
Speaker 4: not even close.
Speaker 2: No, you're right about that.
Speaker 3: I also none of us have any idea what the
Speaker 3: behind the scenes conversations are here right right Based on
Speaker 3: polling I've seen, Ukrainian people are all for continuing to fight.
Speaker 3: So and as we would be, as you would be
Speaker 3: if some bastard like Putin had taken twenty percent of
Speaker 3: your country and kidnapped your children and killed half your family.
Speaker 2: And tortured your men.
Speaker 3: The idea of oh, we'll sign a deal with them
Speaker 3: where he gets to keep the land, keep the kids,
Speaker 3: pays no penalty really for murdering and raping half my family,
Speaker 3: and I'm supposed to just be happy with.
Speaker 4: That I know, and it astounds me the number of
Speaker 4: Americans who are insisting that they ought to do that
Speaker 4: we would fight for the next five hundred years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I would personally.
Speaker 3: But the alternative to what I just said is there's
Speaker 3: just no world in which it gets any better than
Speaker 3: the deal I just stated.
Speaker 2: That is also true. One more clip from JD. Vance.
Speaker 3: Do you expected you maybe more sanctions in Russia or
Speaker 3: any other steps to pressure of ball size, if you
Speaker 3: want to have them on an education Well, I.
Speaker 7: Don't think that's right, actually, I mean, we still have
Speaker 7: a number of sanctions that are placed on the Russians.
Speaker 4: We do believe that.
Speaker 7: The Russians economically are struggling because of this conflict.
Speaker 2: We do believe that it's.
Speaker 7: In Russia's best interest, but also Ukraine and the United
Speaker 7: States's best interest, to bring this conflict to a close.
Speaker 7: So we believe in applying pressure to everybody to stop
Speaker 7: the killing, because that's what the President's policy is, and
Speaker 7: that's what'sn't the best interest.
Speaker 2: In the American people.
Speaker 4: So the Zolen Scheme made a statement the other day
Speaker 4: or yesterday whenever it was, that he thought the war
Speaker 4: would be going on for a long Time play clip
Speaker 4: thirty three, Michael, this is Trump's response to.
Speaker 8: That President Zelensky supposedly made a saatement today in AP.
Speaker 8: I'm not a big fan of AP, so maybe it
Speaker 8: was an incorrect sabment. But he said he thinks it
Speaker 8: was gonna go on for a long time, and he'd.
Speaker 2: Better not be right about that. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So Zelenski himself has tweeted, which is a thing these
Speaker 4: days in international diplomacy. I would like to I would
Speaker 4: like to reiterate Ukraine's commitment to peace. None of us
Speaker 4: wants an endless war. Ukraine is ready to come to
Speaker 4: the negotiating table as soon as possible to bring lasting
Speaker 4: piece closer. Nobody wants peace more than Ukrainians. My team
Speaker 4: and I stand ready to work under President Trump's strong
Speaker 4: leadership to get a piece that lasts. We are ready
Speaker 4: to work fast to end the war, and the first
Speaker 4: stages could be the release of prisoners in truce in
Speaker 4: the sky, dan on missiles, long range drones, bombs on
Speaker 4: energy and other civilian infrastructure, and truce in the sea immediately.
Speaker 4: If Russia will do the same, then we want to
Speaker 4: move very fast through all the next stage to work
Speaker 4: with the US to agree to a strong final deal.
Speaker 4: We do really value how much America has done to
Speaker 4: help Ukraine maintain its sovereignty and independence, and we remember
Speaker 4: the moment when things changed when President Trump provided Ukraine
Speaker 4: with javelins. We are grateful for this our meeting in Washington.
Speaker 4: That the White House on Friday did not go the
Speaker 4: way it was supposed to. It is regrettable that it
Speaker 4: happened this way. It's time to make things right. We
Speaker 4: would like future cooperation and communication to be constructive. And finally,
Speaker 4: regarding the agreement on minerals and security, Ukraine is ready
Speaker 4: to sign it any time and in any convenient format.
Speaker 4: We see this agreement as a step forward toward greater
Speaker 4: security and solid security guarantees, and I truly hope it
Speaker 4: will work effectively.
Speaker 3: What's the back channel communication between US in Russia? Has
Speaker 3: putin got any interest in any of this or we
Speaker 3: just assuming he does that he doesn't think, Yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: not going to sign a deal for keeping the twenty
Speaker 3: percent I took because I want thirty percent or fifty
Speaker 3: percent or all of.
Speaker 4: It well right, and gosh, my adversaries really most important
Speaker 4: by far patron has announced that they're not super interested
Speaker 4: in backing my adversary anymore and are pulling back on it,
Speaker 4: and just said, we're going to stop arm shipments. So
Speaker 4: I'm supposed to stop fighting, right And as we explain
Speaker 4: that to me, he says Vlad And we played Ian
Speaker 4: Bremer earlier, who said he doesn't believe Europe's going to
Speaker 4: stand up and protect themselves, so why.
Speaker 2: Would Putin stop?
Speaker 3: His goal might be within range of actually taking over
Speaker 3: the country. Either there are measures behind the scenes that
Speaker 3: Trump is considering that are extremely hard on Russia, or
Speaker 3: this doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And.
Speaker 3: Having read David Sanger's book in Bob Woodward's book about
Speaker 3: a lot of the behind the scenes on this and
Speaker 3: other things during the Biden presidency, often have no.
Speaker 2: Idea what's going on. You just don't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, true, And I realized that in one form or
Speaker 4: another there was a lot of discussion of British and
Speaker 4: or French troops being on the ground in Ukraine, which
Speaker 4: is interesting to try to square with the whole Putin
Speaker 4: was justified in invading Ukraine because they'd made too many
Speaker 4: notices about Jane joining NATO and he couldn't have that,
Speaker 4: so it was justified. Well, when there are NATO troops
Speaker 4: on the ground in Ukraine, like facing off with his guys,
Speaker 4: that's going to be better. Yeah, I like you say,
Speaker 4: surely there are things going on behind the scenes that
Speaker 4: we don't know about. That makes sense, because again, disarming
Speaker 4: Putin's opponent and saying there, now, let's go to the
Speaker 4: bargaining table just doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2: Nope.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: The biggest story of the day that personally affects you
Speaker 3: the fastest is clearly this tariff thing that kicked in
Speaker 3: at midnight last night, twenty five percent tariffs on Mexico
Speaker 3: and Canada. Trudeau me Androgynoust, Prime Minister of Canada. Why
Speaker 3: do I always need to say something like that, Well, just.
Speaker 4: Because he's a member of the LGBT lgt P, LGBT
Speaker 4: lgt LBG LGBTQ two plus.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like his politics and he annoys me.
Speaker 3: But anyway, he said in a press conference just a
Speaker 3: few minutes ago, I won't sugarcoat it.
Speaker 4: This is gonna be tough. Yeah, yeah, how tough for
Speaker 4: you personally? And why coming up in a couple of minutes,
Speaker 4: maybe again, this could all be over by noon, you
Speaker 4: know tomorrow. The way Trump operates, it's hard to say. So,
Speaker 4: you know, we mock cable news all the time for
Speaker 4: engaging in these long, serious discussions about a hypothetical that's
Speaker 4: never gonna come to roost.
Speaker 2: But the tariffs have been in Poe. Yeah, that's not
Speaker 2: a hypothetical, right right.
Speaker 4: A lasting impact is hypothetical, definitely, But at some point,
Speaker 4: I mean, he imposed them, so can we talk about
Speaker 4: what it will mean? Spicy times, friends, Spicy times. I'd say.
Speaker 4: My son is at home six, so I keep texting
Speaker 4: back and forth with him. He sounds quite miserable, one
Speaker 4: of the many illnesses floating around my other son. This
Speaker 4: is an interesting thing, have you ever I don't think
Speaker 4: we ever dealt with this. When I was in school,
Speaker 4: none of our teams were very good in any sport.
Speaker 4: But they've got a team at my son's high school
Speaker 4: that is doing very well and going through the state
Speaker 4: tournament and marching through. It's very disruptive to a school
Speaker 4: when you have a team that does well, because there's
Speaker 4: constantly games that everybody goes to or they I mean,
Speaker 4: they let everybody not go to school on Friday.
Speaker 2: To attend one of the games. They're going to be
Speaker 2: doing that with the coming game stuff like that.
Speaker 3: I never realized how disruptive it is if you have
Speaker 3: like a hot football team or basketball team or something
Speaker 3: like that kind of throws things off on the old
Speaker 3: education end of things for a while.
Speaker 4: Sure, which is going great in America already, so we
Speaker 4: had plenty of slack to pick. Then they have rallies.
Speaker 4: You have to have your pep rallied. I question your pep.
Speaker 2: We've got spirit? How about you? That whole thing?
Speaker 3: Well, absolutely, you know we're the Tigers, you're the Lions,
Speaker 3: or you the Tigers and we're the Lions. I can't
Speaker 3: keep it straight. And we have school pride and whatnot.
Speaker 4: Right right, and you apparently lack it at least that's
Speaker 4: what we're alleging.
Speaker 2: Answer to this is awaited Oh my god.
Speaker 3: The whole school pride in high school thing is is
Speaker 3: hilarious looking back on it.
Speaker 2: It really is.
Speaker 4: I mean to the point that if you're from Central
Speaker 4: and you run into guys from South there there could
Speaker 4: be a fight because you know, the guys from South
Speaker 4: and they're weird Southern ways or southern or just a
Speaker 4: mile away.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I guess there's no different than professional level sports,
Speaker 3: and it makes more sense at least it's people who
Speaker 3: live in your town as opposed to a million exactly.
Speaker 4: Anyway, So coming up next segment, a bit of a
Speaker 4: look at the tariffs how they might affect you, plus
Speaker 4: and this is shocking, friends, I hope you're not too
Speaker 4: terribly surprised by this. America's trust in mass media has
Speaker 4: hit the lowest point in more than fifty years.
Speaker 3: That is shocking. Who could have predicted that? All that
Speaker 3: on the way to stay here are strong?
Speaker 2: Hey, geddy, we're telling people and showing people about our power.
Speaker 2: And this is what we say when we fight. We
Speaker 2: get away where we fight, were where we fight.
Speaker 1: And now we say to Trump and Elan, are you
Speaker 1: bitter for this faith?
Speaker 4: It's rare that you see dumbness and evil combined in
Speaker 4: such an impressive way as Maxine Waters represents.
Speaker 2: But she's something. So if you're just joining us.
Speaker 3: For the past three and a half hours, we've been
Speaker 3: talking about the Smoot Holly Terrriff Act of nineteen thirty.
Speaker 4: It's been fast wrapped up. Smoots roll in it time
Speaker 4: to move on to Hally.
Speaker 3: We have new tariffs in place, as of midnight last night,
Speaker 3: twenty five percent on Canada, twenty five percent on Mexico.
Speaker 4: Pretty little Justin Trudeau has an opinion on it, and
Speaker 4: then we will discuss a first clip.
Speaker 2: Please, Michael sixty seven, I.
Speaker 9: Want to speak first directly to the American people. We
Speaker 9: don't want this. We want to work with you as
Speaker 9: a friend and ally, and we don't want to see
Speaker 9: you hurt either. But your government has chosen to do
Speaker 9: this to you. They've chosen to launch a trade war
Speaker 9: that will first and foremost harm American families. They've chosen
Speaker 9: to sabotage their own agenda that was supposed to usher
Speaker 9: in a new golden age for the United States.
Speaker 2: On wad your panies, Justin.
Speaker 4: It pains me enormously to agree with just and Trudeau
Speaker 4: on anything. I am mystified by, especially the tariffs on Canada,
Speaker 4: because Trump is cited the emergency of illegal immigration and
Speaker 4: fentanyl as the pretext for the tariffs, because there needs
Speaker 4: to be an emergency for the President to do this.
Speaker 4: Course will weigh in and interpret all this sooner or later.
Speaker 4: But the fraction of fentanyl that comes across Canada is very,
Speaker 4: very small. Well that Canadian border and immigration is practically
Speaker 4: that's just the legal reason. We should put that to decide.
Speaker 4: What's the economic theory? What's Trump hoping to accomplish there? Well,
Speaker 4: that's exactly what I'm leading to. So what is the
Speaker 4: actual reason? Best I can come up with is and
Speaker 4: I heard Whuna here talking about this, some of the
Speaker 4: Trump team might think that they can help reduce the
Speaker 4: deficit by taking in enormous amounts of tariff revenue over
Speaker 4: the short to medium term before too much damage is
Speaker 4: done to the economy.
Speaker 3: Well, like, for instance, I don't claim to know anything
Speaker 3: about this, but I was listening to a news report
Speaker 3: about how much lumber we get out of Canada because
Speaker 3: it's cheaper than the lumber in the United States. No,
Speaker 3: We've got plenty of lumber in the Great Northwest, Oregon,
Speaker 3: Washington to provide our own lumber, and these tariffs will
Speaker 3: make it more likely that we use American lumber and
Speaker 3: that will ultimately be good for us. That was one
Speaker 3: argument that will be good for the timber industry. Right,
Speaker 3: It's like.
Speaker 4: The tariffs on steel and aluminum will help twenty thousand
Speaker 4: steel and illuminum workers and hurt fifty million people who
Speaker 4: consume the products made of that steel and aluminum, and
Speaker 4: or manufacture products with the steel and aluminum, et cetera.
Speaker 2: So I mean, Usa, USA.
Speaker 4: I'm pleased, I'm at the front of the parade, but
Speaker 4: I don't understand how me paying more for American timber.
Speaker 4: I mean, because we're talking about like our closest friend
Speaker 4: and ally.
Speaker 3: Well, most pundits that I like don't agree with Trump
Speaker 3: on this. But Trump is not a dumb guy, as
Speaker 3: Trudeau just said, and he's not you know, he's not
Speaker 3: trying to commit political suicide.
Speaker 2: So what does he think is gonna happen?
Speaker 4: There are folks with some have to think tariffs and
Speaker 4: protectionism actually will work out in the long term in
Speaker 4: a way that will be beneficial to the whole country for.
Speaker 2: Long term a year, or ten years, or a century.
Speaker 2: See that's the problem.
Speaker 4: To revive certain sectors of the American manufacturing economy, you
Speaker 4: would have to have like rock solid assurance to the
Speaker 4: companies that are either going to move plants here or
Speaker 4: build plants or start plants whatever, that they've got at
Speaker 4: least fifteen years that they can count on stability. And
Speaker 4: there's no way Trump is one termer can guarantee that so.
Speaker 4: And if you know what's interesting is there are loads
Speaker 4: and loads of people who are more than happy to
Speaker 4: point out that you're stupid idiots you just still like Trump.
Speaker 4: And then half the time it's your stupid idiots you
Speaker 4: like Trump too much anyway. Uh, I haven't run into
Speaker 4: a lot of cogent arguments in favor of this, especially
Speaker 4: Canada Mexico. Yeah, we've exported a fair amount of manufacturing
Speaker 4: to them, maybe too much, maybe too much globalism. I
Speaker 4: am absolutely sympathetic to those arguments, but you got to
Speaker 4: tell me how it's going to work for me to
Speaker 4: swallow that pill, especially given the political and just practical
Speaker 4: reality that inflation is killing everybody, has killed everybody, and
Speaker 4: prices are rising at a lower rate, but they're still rising,
Speaker 4: which is practically inevitable. But we got to keep that
Speaker 4: rate of inflation low as possible while wages rise. And
Speaker 4: this could hurt the economy, the fact that the market's
Speaker 4: down significantly the last two days, it goes down, it
Speaker 4: comes up again. They hate uncertainty, and this is a
Speaker 4: period of uncertainty. I'm not gonna leap to any confusions,
Speaker 4: but I'm having a really hard time finding anybody to say, hey,
Speaker 4: this a really good idea hammering Canada and Mexico with
Speaker 4: these tariffs. They point out in the Wall Street Journal,
Speaker 4: which is of course pro business, and you could argue
Speaker 4: pro globalism, I suppose, although I think they do a
Speaker 4: pretty good job of going through the arguments here. But
Speaker 4: they think the twenty five percent teriffyle raised the cost
Speaker 4: of a full sized suv assemblant in North America by
Speaker 4: nine thousand dollars and a pickup truck by eights.
Speaker 3: Whoa whoo whoo, whoa whoa, whoa who who raise the
Speaker 3: price from where it is currently by nine thousand more dollars.
Speaker 4: And a pickup truck by about eight grand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so a seventy grand truck is going to be
Speaker 2: almost eighty grand.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the analysis by the Anderson Economic Group. I
Speaker 4: take all this stuff with a grain of salt. Again,
Speaker 4: I'm not finding good arguments so well.
Speaker 3: Obviously if that were true, that would be amazingly disruptive.
Speaker 2: Holy cow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, They're concern is that mister Trump is whacking friends,
Speaker 4: not adversaries, because again, the China stuff's in a different box.
Speaker 2: Do whatever you want to China. They are our enemy.
Speaker 4: They're trying to ruin us that his taxes will hit
Speaker 4: every cross border transaction. And the North American vehicle market
Speaker 4: is so interconnected that some cars cross a border as
Speaker 4: many as eight times as they're assembled.
Speaker 3: So, I mean, if an SUV goes up by almost
Speaker 3: ten grand a new suv, well people are gonna buy
Speaker 3: used SUVs. And then of course that market will become
Speaker 3: distorted and all kinds of repercussions will occur.
Speaker 4: Well, and the big automakers will really suffer, and the
Speaker 4: unions will be squealing. And this is a risky move.
Speaker 4: Why don't we just all agree on that it's risky.
Speaker 3: Huh, Yeah, I've died. This is not my area of
Speaker 3: expertise at all, but it'll be something to watch.
Speaker 2: Well. Yeah, the economics is the dismal science.
Speaker 4: It's very difficult to come to anything close to a
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