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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe.

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Speaker 2: Getty Armstrong and Jettiating and he Armstrong and Yetty.

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Speaker 1: And they arnt gon estapians transgender just because you've stripped

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Speaker 1: them from sports or from housing, or from their healthcare

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Speaker 1: or any other public place that you don't want us

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Speaker 1: to be. And so members make no mistake that this

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Speaker 1: is just another version of state sanctioned bullying and genocide.

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Speaker 2: And I don't say that lightly lightly. You don't say

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Speaker 3: That's a crazy Democrat representative in Minnesota, which is not

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Speaker 3: surprising because that's one of your crazier left states. Banning

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Speaker 3: dudes from participating in girls' sports is a genocide. And

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Speaker 3: I don't say that lightly. There was so much crazy

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Speaker 3: in that clip.

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Speaker 4: We could spend the rest of the show teasing it

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Speaker 4: or parsing it. The whole play the beginning again, Michael,

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Speaker 4: just the first half or so.

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Speaker 1: And they aren't going to stop being transgender just because

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Speaker 1: you've stripped them from sports or from housing or from

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Speaker 1: their house.

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Speaker 4: We'll stop there, all right, all right, Wow, They're not

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Speaker 4: going to stop being transgender. Nobody is talking about that.

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Speaker 4: I would like to see people get mental health care

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Speaker 4: and address the real problems in their lives, so they

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Speaker 4: didn't indulge in the fantasy that they're transgender. But nobody's

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Speaker 4: talking about that. They're not going to stop being transgender

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Speaker 4: if you keep them out of sports again, not the goal.

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Speaker 4: If you take away their housing. Wait a minute, Oh

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Speaker 4: my god, can you utter one single phrase that's not

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Speaker 4: completely psychotic?

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Speaker 2: Who's taking away transgender housing?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: What the hell?

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Speaker 4: It's so good that at least in a lot of

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Speaker 4: ways that point of view is on the back foot.

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Speaker 4: But not in academia, friends, and not in a lot

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Speaker 4: of government.

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Speaker 2: Well, and this was a blow. So there was a

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Speaker 2: bill in the Senate to bar transgender women and girls

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Speaker 2: nationwide from prosser dudes. Dudes is the.

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Speaker 3: Term I was reading the bill from participating in school

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Speaker 3: athletic competitions designated for female athletes. It failed to advance

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Speaker 3: in the Senate as Democrats stood united. And it's one

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Speaker 3: of those deals where you need sixty votes. I don't

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Speaker 3: understand the Senate and which times you need fifty votes

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Speaker 3: and which times you need sixty votes, But this is

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Speaker 3: one of those where you need sixty votes and there

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Speaker 3: aren't enough Republicans, and they were hoping that they could

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Speaker 3: get you know, a half dozen Democrats to join on

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Speaker 3: what eighty five percent of Americans agree on. I do

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Speaker 3: not understand why, more like.

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Speaker 4: An eighty five to six issue.

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Speaker 3: It's not controversial. It's not a controversial issue. Why aren't

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Speaker 3: there enough Democrats where you're Democratic Senate or from you know,

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Speaker 3: some moderate state where you can come out and say, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't think boys should be played in girls sports. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: it was fifty one forty five Republicans over Democrats, but

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Speaker 3: didn't get to sixty. So now the Republicans have some different,

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Speaker 3: slightly differently worded bill they're trying to get through the House,

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Speaker 3: and then they'll come back to the Senatement. So the

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Speaker 3: battle's not over. But that's just shocking. Of course, this

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Speaker 3: is the thing I always like about politics. It's so

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Speaker 3: dang maddening that we play this game all the time,

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Speaker 3: and both sides do it. But so the Democrats reasoning

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Speaker 3: on this, we shouldn't have national rules.

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Speaker 2: For schools, Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: And now all of a sudden, you don't like the

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Speaker 3: federal government getting involved in the schools when we're trying

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Speaker 3: to get rid of the Department of Education, for instance,

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Speaker 3: you're horrified that you don't have federal control over the schools.

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Speaker 2: But this is the way politics works.

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Speaker 4: So three quick points, and you can take bets out

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Speaker 4: there whether I can remember all three of my points

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Speaker 4: by the time I'm at the third sorority.

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Speaker 2: Number one, just the rule of thumb.

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Speaker 4: It takes sixty votes in the Senate except when it doesn't.

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Speaker 4: So just memorize that and you'll be fine. Secondly, the

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Speaker 4: recent first Appeals Court, First Circuit Appeals Court ruling that

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Speaker 4: you're not violating parents rights by transitioning their child at

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Speaker 4: school and not telling them. I really want to dig

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Speaker 4: into that decision. I have the decision in front of me.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be a longish segment. Maybe we can do

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Speaker 4: it hour four. Some folks don't get our four. You

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Speaker 4: can grab it by a podcast Armstrong and getting on demand.

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Speaker 4: Jack and I'll talk about it behind the scenes. But

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Speaker 4: it's really really interesting, and one of the points I

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Speaker 4: was going to make in analyzing the case is what

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Speaker 4: I want to make right now.

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Speaker 5: Republicans stop adopting the language of the progressive lunatics say

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Speaker 5: in the bill, there will be no boys or men

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Speaker 5: allowed in sports.

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Speaker 3: That's a good idea for a variety of reasons, because

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Speaker 3: that would force a cord at some point to.

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Speaker 2: Define that, wouldn't it.

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Speaker 4: Well, right, exactly, That's what I'm driving at, because you

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Speaker 4: have allowed the progressive left to smear the line between

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Speaker 4: sex and what they call gender and then claim that

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Speaker 4: women and men are just terms of gender, and your

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Speaker 4: gender is totally up to you. Therefore, any sex specific

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Speaker 4: laws are terrible and oppressive because people can change their

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Speaker 4: sex slash gender all the time, and you're letting them

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Speaker 4: play that game by not simply saying no men, men

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Speaker 4: and boys in women's and girls' sports. And then, as

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Speaker 4: Jack you indicated, at some point, somebody are gonna have

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Speaker 4: to say whoa whoao is a biological male, which is

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Speaker 4: a term I do not used because that's the only

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Speaker 4: kind of male that exists. Attacking biological onto it also

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Speaker 4: implies that there are many different sorts of males. So

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Speaker 4: you've given them the argument anyway. Yeah, you'll make the

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Speaker 4: court decide, Well, we got to differentiate between this whole

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Speaker 4: whatever the hell a gender means and sex, because we're

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Speaker 4: here talking about the sex of the person.

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Speaker 3: That would be something if a court and then this

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Speaker 3: could go clear up to the Supreme Court, where the

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Speaker 3: whole question is what's the definition of male and female?

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Speaker 3: Finally get to that, that'd be something.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, yeah, on that topic. I don't know you,

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Speaker 4: I don't get tired of this. More revelations coming out

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Speaker 4: as the doge guys and others paw through the the

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Speaker 4: just the stack of you know, accounting books as high

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Speaker 4: as the Empire State Building that shows everything that's been

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Speaker 4: spent by the federal government. Public theater in New York

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Speaker 4: City received more than half a million dollars in federal

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Speaker 4: funds from FEMA, the Literal Emergency Management Agency, to promote

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Speaker 4: anti racist and queer shows.

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Speaker 3: How do you like that those of you in North

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Speaker 3: Carolina who are still living intents after the flooding there

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Speaker 3: and all the problems with getting the FEMA money, they

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Speaker 3: spent half a million dollars on anti racist and queer

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Speaker 3: shows at a New York City theater.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 4: Right, And it was all under the umbrella of the

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Speaker 4: COVID emergency and it's right there in the name FEMA emergency.

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Speaker 4: And so they were furnishing dollars to keep these theaters afloat.

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Speaker 4: Maybe he thought that was good in general, maybe you didn't.

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Speaker 4: But FEMA money spent on transgendery queer up with whatever

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Speaker 2: See, So he got a queer theater.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure it wasn't sustainable financially in any circumstance. But

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Speaker 3: during COVID they could claim we're going to go out

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Speaker 3: of business, so they got emergency funding from the taxpayer.

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Speaker 4: Fantastic. Yeah, Oh that reminds me. I've got to get

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Speaker 4: into that California slush fun story. But and it's funny.

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Speaker 4: I think this is as true as anything can be.

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Speaker 4: Yet I hesitated to bring it up, but it's a

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Speaker 4: piece by Scott Atlas. America still needs a COVID reckoning.

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Speaker 4: Why does nobody want to talk about the most tragic

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Speaker 4: breakdown of leadership and ethics in our lifetimes?

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Speaker 2: I remember early in the COVID.

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Speaker 4: Thing you brought us Jack the perspective that after the

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Speaker 4: great plague of the nineteen eighteen flu or whatever it

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Speaker 4: was called, nobody wanted to talk about it afterward. I

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Speaker 4: just want to move on because it's so damned depressing

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Speaker 4: and sad and disappointing.

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Speaker 2: It seems to me a human nature thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and so Scott Atlas is talking about and you

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Speaker 4: may remember him as one of the great dissenters during

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Speaker 4: the COVID thing, but he was at a conference that

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Speaker 4: focuses on the West's failure to cultivate its traditional values,

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Speaker 4: which provided the world with history's most successful societies, essentially

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Speaker 4: defending the principles.

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Speaker 2: Of Western civilization.

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Speaker 4: Now, I asked the audience, why, at this moment in history,

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Speaker 4: Scott Rice, are we asking how institutions should be reformed

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Speaker 4: or if they even can be For decades, we have

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Speaker 4: been aware that institutions were failing incompetent, wasteful and corrupt governments,

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Speaker 4: biased and dishonest journalism, agenda driven schools and universities. So

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Speaker 4: why now? My answer is COVID. The mismanagement of the

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Speaker 4: pandemic hit us personally and exposed a massive, across the

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Speaker 4: board institutional failure. It was the most tragic breakdown of

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Speaker 4: leadership and ethics that free societies have seen in our lifetimes.

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Speaker 4: Yet oddly, the topic remained almost invisible at the week

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Speaker 4: long conference, unmentioned by dozens of speakers. It was the

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Speaker 4: elephant in the room, just as lockdowns and mandates are

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Speaker 4: missing from almost all of America's discussion of post election plans.

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Speaker 4: And then you know, there's what time is it? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: we got time for this. This is so good to

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Speaker 4: understand why the pandemic finally forced us to address institutional failure.

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Speaker 4: We must acknowledge the facts. And Jack, this will warm

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Speaker 4: your heart because we've been howling this for years. The

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Speaker 4: virus didn't cause lockdowns. Human beings decided to impose lockdowns,

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Speaker 4: which failed to stop the deaths, and the spread lockdowns

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Speaker 4: inflicted massive damage on children and literally killed people. Or

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Speaker 4: a view of thirty four countries with available data found

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Speaker 4: that through July of twenty three, the US alone would

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Speaker 4: have had one point six million fewer deaths if it

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Speaker 4: had the performance of Sweden. Wow, and he goes on

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Speaker 4: to some more statistics to back up that that statement.

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Speaker 4: But more than massive incompetence by our bureaucrats, more than

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Speaker 4: a lack of critical thinking, we saw a failure of

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Speaker 2: Our creator, et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 4: It's stunning that liberty fell so quickly and thoroughly by

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Speaker 4: We've been hammering this point so long. Part of me

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Speaker 2: It's destined for the history books. Man. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Let me hit you with Scott Atlas's summary his final paragraph, rather, uh,

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Speaker 3: because they're expensive today.

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Speaker 2: More on the way, stay tuned. He getting behind me are.

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Speaker 6: One hundred circles with one hundred people inside of them.

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Speaker 6: That challenge has a actually started.

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Speaker 2: Hug your dad, Hug your dad, your son.

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Speaker 5: Just what happened?

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Speaker 2: Million dollars?

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Speaker 3: That's mister beast, who's the biggest thing in the world

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Speaker 3: And the way mister Beast does it too, Unlike other contests,

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Speaker 2: So you actually get to keep the prize, which.

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Speaker 2: So how long was the kid in the circle? I

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Speaker 3: I've watched a bunch of these my kids before his

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Speaker 3: What's an eleven year old going to do with a

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Speaker 3: I hope they're American and not from Canada or he'll

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Speaker 3: very smart guy, but this is a dumb thing to do.

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Speaker 3: At midnight last night, twenty five percent tariffs went into

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Speaker 2: Goods to try to retaliate old on. Here come.

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Speaker 4: So Domingo in the ziccolo, I will mark it on McKellen.

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Speaker 2: Domingo means Sunday.

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Speaker 4: Yes, And it's unfortunate because I have a savado Giagante

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm already a little El Gordo. So

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Speaker 3: Anyway, back to Canada, where they speak English, Trudeau said

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Speaker 4: Certainly has agreement at the Wall Street Journal editorial board.

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Speaker 4: it specifically, at the cost of many, many dollars and

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Speaker 3: Zelenski put out a new statement about Ukraine in the

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Speaker 2: When we retouch on that story at some point, it

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we can hit that next hour or next segment

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Speaker 4: and a little more on how the tariffs are likely

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Speaker 2: Here's the end significantly. I think everybody wonders Armstrong and Getty,

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Speaker 2: But what do you need to see from President's Lensky.

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Speaker 7: Look, I think the most important thing A lot of

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Speaker 2: The public stuff doesn't.

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Speaker 7: Matter nearly as much as what are the Ukrainians doing

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Speaker 7: We need the Ukrainians privately to come to us and say,

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Speaker 7: this is how we're going to participate in the process

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Speaker 2: That is the most important thing.

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Speaker 7: And that lack of private engagement is what is most

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Speaker 4: That is not a statement of He's dead to us,

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Speaker 4: not even close.

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Speaker 2: No, you're right about that.

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Speaker 3: I also none of us have any idea what the

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Speaker 3: So and as we would be, as you would be

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Speaker 3: The idea of oh, we'll sign a deal with them

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Speaker 3: pays no penalty really for murdering and raping half my family,

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Speaker 4: That I know, and it astounds me the number of

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Speaker 3: But the alternative to what I just said is there's

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Speaker 2: That is also true. One more clip from JD. Vance.

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Speaker 4: We do believe that.

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Speaker 7: The Russians economically are struggling because of this conflict.

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Speaker 2: We do believe that it's.

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Speaker 7: So we believe in applying pressure to everybody to stop

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Speaker 2: In the American people.

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Speaker 8: That President Zelensky supposedly made a saatement today in AP.

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Speaker 2: Better not be right about that. That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: So Zelenski himself has tweeted, which is a thing these

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Speaker 4: like to reiterate Ukraine's commitment to peace. None of us

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Speaker 4: If Russia will do the same, then we want to

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Speaker 4: We do really value how much America has done to

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Speaker 4: with javelins. We are grateful for this our meeting in Washington.

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Speaker 4: would like future cooperation and communication to be constructive. And finally,

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Speaker 4: We see this agreement as a step forward toward greater

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Speaker 3: What's the back channel communication between US in Russia? Has

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Speaker 4: by far patron has announced that they're not super interested

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Speaker 4: in backing my adversary anymore and are pulling back on it,

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Speaker 4: and just said, we're going to stop arm shipments. So

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Speaker 4: I'm supposed to stop fighting, right And as we explain

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Speaker 4: that to me, he says Vlad And we played Ian

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Speaker 4: Bremer earlier, who said he doesn't believe Europe's going to

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Speaker 4: stand up and protect themselves, so why.

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Speaker 2: Would Putin stop?

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Speaker 3: His goal might be within range of actually taking over

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Speaker 3: the country. Either there are measures behind the scenes that

452
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Speaker 3: Trump is considering that are extremely hard on Russia, or

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Speaker 3: this doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And.

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Speaker 3: Having read David Sanger's book in Bob Woodward's book about

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Speaker 3: a lot of the behind the scenes on this and

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Speaker 3: other things during the Biden presidency, often have no.

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Speaker 2: Idea what's going on. You just don't.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, true, And I realized that in one form or

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Speaker 4: another there was a lot of discussion of British and

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Speaker 4: or French troops being on the ground in Ukraine, which

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Speaker 4: is interesting to try to square with the whole Putin

463
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Speaker 4: was justified in invading Ukraine because they'd made too many

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Speaker 4: notices about Jane joining NATO and he couldn't have that,

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Speaker 4: so it was justified. Well, when there are NATO troops

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Speaker 4: on the ground in Ukraine, like facing off with his guys,

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Speaker 4: that's going to be better. Yeah, I like you say,

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Speaker 4: surely there are things going on behind the scenes that

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Speaker 4: we don't know about. That makes sense, because again, disarming

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Speaker 4: Putin's opponent and saying there, now, let's go to the

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Speaker 4: bargaining table just doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 2: Nope.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: The biggest story of the day that personally affects you

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Speaker 3: the fastest is clearly this tariff thing that kicked in

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Speaker 3: at midnight last night, twenty five percent tariffs on Mexico

477
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Speaker 3: and Canada. Trudeau me Androgynoust, Prime Minister of Canada. Why

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Speaker 3: do I always need to say something like that, Well, just.

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Speaker 4: Because he's a member of the LGBT lgt P, LGBT

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Speaker 4: lgt LBG LGBTQ two plus.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like his politics and he annoys me.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, he said in a press conference just a

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Speaker 3: few minutes ago, I won't sugarcoat it.

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Speaker 4: This is gonna be tough. Yeah, yeah, how tough for

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Speaker 4: you personally? And why coming up in a couple of minutes,

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Speaker 4: maybe again, this could all be over by noon, you

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Speaker 4: know tomorrow. The way Trump operates, it's hard to say. So,

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Speaker 4: you know, we mock cable news all the time for

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Speaker 4: engaging in these long, serious discussions about a hypothetical that's

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Speaker 4: never gonna come to roost.

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Speaker 2: But the tariffs have been in Poe. Yeah, that's not

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Speaker 2: a hypothetical, right right.

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Speaker 4: A lasting impact is hypothetical, definitely, But at some point,

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Speaker 4: I mean, he imposed them, so can we talk about

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Speaker 4: what it will mean? Spicy times, friends, Spicy times. I'd say.

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Speaker 4: My son is at home six, so I keep texting

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Speaker 4: back and forth with him. He sounds quite miserable, one

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Speaker 4: of the many illnesses floating around my other son. This

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Speaker 4: is an interesting thing, have you ever I don't think

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Speaker 4: we ever dealt with this. When I was in school,

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Speaker 4: none of our teams were very good in any sport.

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Speaker 4: But they've got a team at my son's high school

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Speaker 4: that is doing very well and going through the state

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Speaker 4: tournament and marching through. It's very disruptive to a school

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Speaker 4: when you have a team that does well, because there's

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Speaker 4: constantly games that everybody goes to or they I mean,

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Speaker 4: they let everybody not go to school on Friday.

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Speaker 2: To attend one of the games. They're going to be

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Speaker 2: doing that with the coming game stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: I never realized how disruptive it is if you have

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Speaker 3: like a hot football team or basketball team or something

512
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Speaker 3: like that kind of throws things off on the old

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Speaker 3: education end of things for a while.

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Speaker 4: Sure, which is going great in America already, so we

515
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Speaker 4: had plenty of slack to pick. Then they have rallies.

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Speaker 4: You have to have your pep rallied. I question your pep.

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Speaker 2: We've got spirit? How about you? That whole thing?

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Speaker 3: Well, absolutely, you know we're the Tigers, you're the Lions,

519
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Speaker 3: or you the Tigers and we're the Lions. I can't

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Speaker 3: keep it straight. And we have school pride and whatnot.

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Speaker 4: Right right, and you apparently lack it at least that's

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Speaker 4: what we're alleging.

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Speaker 2: Answer to this is awaited Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: The whole school pride in high school thing is is

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Speaker 3: hilarious looking back on it.

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Speaker 2: It really is.

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Speaker 4: I mean to the point that if you're from Central

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Speaker 4: and you run into guys from South there there could

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Speaker 4: be a fight because you know, the guys from South

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Speaker 4: and they're weird Southern ways or southern or just a

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Speaker 4: mile away.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I guess there's no different than professional level sports,

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Speaker 3: and it makes more sense at least it's people who

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Speaker 3: live in your town as opposed to a million exactly.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, So coming up next segment, a bit of a

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Speaker 4: look at the tariffs how they might affect you, plus

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Speaker 4: and this is shocking, friends, I hope you're not too

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Speaker 4: terribly surprised by this. America's trust in mass media has

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Speaker 4: hit the lowest point in more than fifty years.

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Speaker 3: That is shocking. Who could have predicted that? All that

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Speaker 3: on the way to stay here are strong?

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Speaker 2: Hey, geddy, we're telling people and showing people about our power.

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Speaker 2: And this is what we say when we fight. We

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Speaker 2: get away where we fight, were where we fight.

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Speaker 1: And now we say to Trump and Elan, are you

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Speaker 1: bitter for this faith?

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Speaker 4: It's rare that you see dumbness and evil combined in

548
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Speaker 4: such an impressive way as Maxine Waters represents.

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Speaker 2: But she's something. So if you're just joining us.

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Speaker 3: For the past three and a half hours, we've been

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Speaker 3: talking about the Smoot Holly Terrriff Act of nineteen thirty.

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Speaker 4: It's been fast wrapped up. Smoots roll in it time

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Speaker 4: to move on to Hally.

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Speaker 3: We have new tariffs in place, as of midnight last night,

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Speaker 3: twenty five percent on Canada, twenty five percent on Mexico.

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Speaker 4: Pretty little Justin Trudeau has an opinion on it, and

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Speaker 4: then we will discuss a first clip.

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Speaker 2: Please, Michael sixty seven, I.

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Speaker 9: Want to speak first directly to the American people. We

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Speaker 9: don't want this. We want to work with you as

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Speaker 9: a friend and ally, and we don't want to see

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Speaker 9: you hurt either. But your government has chosen to do

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Speaker 9: this to you. They've chosen to launch a trade war

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Speaker 9: that will first and foremost harm American families. They've chosen

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Speaker 9: to sabotage their own agenda that was supposed to usher

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Speaker 9: in a new golden age for the United States.

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Speaker 2: On wad your panies, Justin.

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Speaker 4: It pains me enormously to agree with just and Trudeau

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Speaker 4: on anything. I am mystified by, especially the tariffs on Canada,

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Speaker 4: because Trump is cited the emergency of illegal immigration and

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Speaker 4: fentanyl as the pretext for the tariffs, because there needs

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Speaker 4: to be an emergency for the President to do this.

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Speaker 4: Course will weigh in and interpret all this sooner or later.

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Speaker 4: But the fraction of fentanyl that comes across Canada is very,

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Speaker 4: very small. Well that Canadian border and immigration is practically

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Speaker 4: that's just the legal reason. We should put that to decide.

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Speaker 4: What's the economic theory? What's Trump hoping to accomplish there? Well,

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Speaker 4: that's exactly what I'm leading to. So what is the

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Speaker 4: actual reason? Best I can come up with is and

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Speaker 4: I heard Whuna here talking about this, some of the

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Speaker 4: Trump team might think that they can help reduce the

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Speaker 4: deficit by taking in enormous amounts of tariff revenue over

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Speaker 4: the short to medium term before too much damage is

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Speaker 4: done to the economy.

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Speaker 3: Well, like, for instance, I don't claim to know anything

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Speaker 3: about this, but I was listening to a news report

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Speaker 3: about how much lumber we get out of Canada because

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Speaker 3: it's cheaper than the lumber in the United States. No,

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Speaker 3: We've got plenty of lumber in the Great Northwest, Oregon,

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Speaker 3: Washington to provide our own lumber, and these tariffs will

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Speaker 3: make it more likely that we use American lumber and

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Speaker 3: that will ultimately be good for us. That was one

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Speaker 3: argument that will be good for the timber industry. Right,

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Speaker 3: It's like.

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Speaker 4: The tariffs on steel and aluminum will help twenty thousand

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Speaker 4: steel and illuminum workers and hurt fifty million people who

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Speaker 4: consume the products made of that steel and aluminum, and

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Speaker 4: or manufacture products with the steel and aluminum, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: So I mean, Usa, USA.

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Speaker 4: I'm pleased, I'm at the front of the parade, but

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Speaker 4: I don't understand how me paying more for American timber.

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Speaker 4: I mean, because we're talking about like our closest friend

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Speaker 4: and ally.

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Speaker 3: Well, most pundits that I like don't agree with Trump

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Speaker 3: on this. But Trump is not a dumb guy, as

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Speaker 3: Trudeau just said, and he's not you know, he's not

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Speaker 3: trying to commit political suicide.

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Speaker 2: So what does he think is gonna happen?

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Speaker 4: There are folks with some have to think tariffs and

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Speaker 4: protectionism actually will work out in the long term in

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Speaker 4: a way that will be beneficial to the whole country for.

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Speaker 2: Long term a year, or ten years, or a century.

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Speaker 2: See that's the problem.

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Speaker 4: To revive certain sectors of the American manufacturing economy, you

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Speaker 4: would have to have like rock solid assurance to the

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Speaker 4: companies that are either going to move plants here or

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Speaker 4: build plants or start plants whatever, that they've got at

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Speaker 4: least fifteen years that they can count on stability. And

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Speaker 4: there's no way Trump is one termer can guarantee that so.

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Speaker 4: And if you know what's interesting is there are loads

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Speaker 4: and loads of people who are more than happy to

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Speaker 4: point out that you're stupid idiots you just still like Trump.

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Speaker 4: And then half the time it's your stupid idiots you

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Speaker 4: like Trump too much anyway. Uh, I haven't run into

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Speaker 4: a lot of cogent arguments in favor of this, especially

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Speaker 4: Canada Mexico. Yeah, we've exported a fair amount of manufacturing

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Speaker 4: to them, maybe too much, maybe too much globalism. I

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Speaker 4: am absolutely sympathetic to those arguments, but you got to

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Speaker 4: tell me how it's going to work for me to

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Speaker 4: swallow that pill, especially given the political and just practical

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Speaker 4: reality that inflation is killing everybody, has killed everybody, and

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Speaker 4: prices are rising at a lower rate, but they're still rising,

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Speaker 4: which is practically inevitable. But we got to keep that

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Speaker 4: rate of inflation low as possible while wages rise. And

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Speaker 4: this could hurt the economy, the fact that the market's

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Speaker 4: down significantly the last two days, it goes down, it

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Speaker 4: comes up again. They hate uncertainty, and this is a

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Speaker 4: period of uncertainty. I'm not gonna leap to any confusions,

639
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Speaker 4: but I'm having a really hard time finding anybody to say, hey,

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Speaker 4: this a really good idea hammering Canada and Mexico with

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Speaker 4: these tariffs. They point out in the Wall Street Journal,

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Speaker 4: which is of course pro business, and you could argue

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Speaker 4: pro globalism, I suppose, although I think they do a

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Speaker 4: pretty good job of going through the arguments here. But

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Speaker 4: they think the twenty five percent teriffyle raised the cost

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Speaker 4: of a full sized suv assemblant in North America by

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Speaker 4: nine thousand dollars and a pickup truck by eights.

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Speaker 3: Whoa whoo whoo, whoa whoa, whoa who who raise the

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Speaker 3: price from where it is currently by nine thousand more dollars.

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Speaker 4: And a pickup truck by about eight grand.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so a seventy grand truck is going to be

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Speaker 2: almost eighty grand.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the analysis by the Anderson Economic Group. I

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Speaker 4: take all this stuff with a grain of salt. Again,

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Speaker 4: I'm not finding good arguments so well.

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Speaker 3: Obviously if that were true, that would be amazingly disruptive.

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Speaker 2: Holy cow.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, They're concern is that mister Trump is whacking friends,

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Speaker 4: not adversaries, because again, the China stuff's in a different box.

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Speaker 2: Do whatever you want to China. They are our enemy.

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Speaker 4: They're trying to ruin us that his taxes will hit

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Speaker 4: every cross border transaction. And the North American vehicle market

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Speaker 4: is so interconnected that some cars cross a border as

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Speaker 4: many as eight times as they're assembled.

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Speaker 3: So, I mean, if an SUV goes up by almost

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Speaker 3: ten grand a new suv, well people are gonna buy

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Speaker 3: used SUVs. And then of course that market will become

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Speaker 3: distorted and all kinds of repercussions will occur.

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Speaker 4: Well, and the big automakers will really suffer, and the

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Speaker 4: unions will be squealing. And this is a risky move.

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Speaker 4: Why don't we just all agree on that it's risky.

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Speaker 3: Huh, Yeah, I've died. This is not my area of

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Speaker 3: expertise at all, but it'll be something to watch.

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Speaker 2: Well. Yeah, the economics is the dismal science.

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Speaker 4: It's very difficult to come to anything close to a

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