1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 2: Welcome back in now number three Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. 4 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 2: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 2: roll through the Thursday edition of the program. We're going 6 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 2: to be joined by Ian Miller, one of the best 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: at analyzing why all of this masking BS was filled 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 2: with so many lies. He now writes at OutKick, but 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 2: I found him online as one of the few truth 10 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: tellers during the COVID lockdowns and everything else there is 11 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: now And I think we're going to be joined by 12 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: Alex Barnson tomorrow. 13 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: Right Buck, there. 14 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 2: Is now increasing movement to try to bring back some 15 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 2: of the COVID restrictions. And also, according to Alex Berenson, 16 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: who I will point out has been months ahead of 17 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: the general consensus it comes to analyzing data. Alex Berenson says, 18 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 2: there's very alarming data about what the COVID shot did 19 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 2: for young children who got it. We're gonna talk about 20 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: that with him tomorrow, and again we're gonna talk with 21 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 2: Ian Miller at the bottom of this hour. But Buck, 22 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 2: a couple of different stories that are out there that 23 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 2: we still haven't dove into fully one absolute attack on 24 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 2: the Veke Ramaswami on the editorial page of the Wall 25 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 2: Street Journal today by Karl Rove, the Veke Ramaswamy performance artist, 26 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 2: and we can get into some of those attacks and 27 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: why Viveke is getting attacked as he is, but also 28 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 2: our good friend Keith Olberman, who is an imbecile of 29 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: the left. Even for left wingers, I think some of 30 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: them are like, man, this Olberman guy's completely lost his marbles. 31 00:01:59,000 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: He often is. 32 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 3: You look at his Twitter, it looks like he needs 33 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 3: a wellness check on a regular basis, Like someone has 34 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 3: to go check up on him and see how he's 35 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 3: doing or something, you know, in a position of authority, 36 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 3: because he's completely completely lost as marbles. 37 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 2: So he tweeted, I saw this late last night as 38 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 2: I was getting ready for bed. 39 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 3: He loves you, by the way, I think he loves 40 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 3: you even more than he loves me. He loves you. 41 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: Oberman comes has, He tweeted back, It's hard for me 42 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 2: to keep back at me back in the day A 43 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: little bit. Yeah, but nothing comes after me. 44 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 4: Sa. 45 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: He used to be. Let me just say this. 46 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: I used to eat my breakfast every morning, Buck, I'd 47 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 2: eat my cereals, I'd eat my eggo waffles, and I 48 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 2: would be sitting there watching Sports Center back in the 49 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 2: day with he and Dan Patrick. They had one of 50 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: the best sports shows maybe ever. Everybody watched that Sports 51 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 2: Center show. He was funny, He and Dan Patrick were great. 52 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 2: He's truly insane now, and he tweeted at our friend 53 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 2: Riley Gaines, who has been fighting for just let's make 54 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: clear here, fighting for women sports to be made up 55 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: of women, which I can't believe this is actually a battleground. 56 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: Crazy that this is going on these days. 57 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: She swam against Will Thomas, who changed his name to 58 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: Leah Thomas and decided that he was a chick and 59 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: became an NC doublea champion swimmer. This all happened, and 60 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,119 Speaker 2: she did not choose to swim against him. She would 61 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 2: otherwise be right now in veterinary, sorry, dental school. Keith 62 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: Oberman tweeted to her, Can you just address the reality 63 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 2: and move past it? You sucked at swimming, That's why 64 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: you lost. 65 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: Now. 66 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: Riley Gaines is an n C doublea champion record holder 67 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: in different aspects of swimming, and this is now what 68 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: the left orthodoxy requires Keith Oberon what is he like? 69 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: Sixty sixty year old leftist Keith Oberman is now picking 70 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: fights with Riley Gaines because she is fighting for women's 71 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 2: sports to be made up of women, and he's picking 72 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: a fight with her by saying, you a scholarship swimmer, 73 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: meaning she's super talented, one of the best swimmers in 74 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: all of college athletics. That she sucked and that's why 75 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 2: she lost. 76 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: To a dude. By the way, she tied a dude. 77 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: But this is where. 78 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 2: Keith Olberman is, and this is where a lot of 79 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: leftists are that you would be now attacking female athletes 80 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: for saying, hey, we just want athletics to be made 81 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: up of women. 82 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 3: It's actually understandable from their position because ad hominem is 83 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 3: all they have attacking individuals who speak the truth about this. 84 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 3: Because the argument that the Olberman's and the left in 85 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 3: general make on the issue of gender and sports is 86 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 3: so weak. I mean, never mind the fact that Riley 87 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 3: can turn around and be like, Keith looks like he 88 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 3: might have a problem with a rigorous like water aerobics 89 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 3: class or something. I mean, he has not a specimen himself, 90 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 3: but to go after yeah, to go after for a 91 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 3: guy who's to comment on sports, it doesn't look like 92 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 3: Keith Oliver but ever played any sports. But you look 93 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 3: at this and you understand, I think very quickly, there's 94 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:15,679 Speaker 3: no there's no way for them to make the case 95 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 3: that they know the left demands they make, so attacking 96 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 3: people who speak the truth is the only option that 97 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 3: remains open to them. So it's not surprising. And this 98 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 3: is also why you see the arguments in favor of 99 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 3: women competing in men sorry, men competing in women's It's 100 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 3: never the other thing, Like if a woman really wants 101 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 3: to try out for the NFL because she's decided she's a. 102 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: Guy, now, good luck with that one. 103 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 3: You know, I don't think we're gonna see a lot 104 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 3: of a lot of cornerbacks or defensive linemen who formerly 105 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 3: or still actually have XX chromosome. And you know, I 106 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 3: don't think you're gonna see that anytime. So when you 107 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 3: see the way they always argue about this stuff, it's 108 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 3: a version of they attack the person who's saying the 109 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 3: things that are true that they don't like, or they 110 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 3: turn it into why are you so focused on this? 111 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 3: That's the other one, you know, why does this why 112 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 3: does this bother you so much? 113 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 4: Right? 114 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: Which to me is a little. 115 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 3: Bit of a reminder of I was on a plane 116 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 3: recently and someone was really like it was a full 117 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 3: grown man who had an extra seat next to him, 118 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 3: and he kept trying to sleep, like curl up in 119 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 3: a feudal position, and he would fall and like kick 120 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 3: my seat to the point where a couple of times, 121 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 3: and I can tell this woman kind of gave me 122 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 3: this look at one book because kept looking back at him, 123 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 3: and it's like I was waiting for to. 124 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: Do the like, is it really that big a deal? Yes? Actually, 125 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: yes it is. 126 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 5: And the same thing is true of transgender ideology in sports. 127 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 5: Is it that big a deal that you're gonna steal 128 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 5: a gold medal from somebody who's been in a swimming 129 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 5: pool working as hard as she can from age four? 130 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a big deal. 131 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: And it's happening everywhere, and for everybody out there who 132 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: dismisses it, it's amazing how often it ends up happening 133 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 2: in your school days or in your kid's high school 134 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 2: and it's going to happen increasingly. And this is what 135 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 2: happens if you deign to speak truth to them. And 136 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 2: this is why so many athletes are afraid, is because 137 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: they're going to be the target. And that's why I 138 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: think Riley's story is so compelling. The only reason she's 139 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: doing this is because of the choice Leah Thomas made. 140 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 2: So Riley could suck it up and say nothing, and 141 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 2: she could have gone on to dental school and she 142 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: likely would have been a fabulous dentist. I know Riley 143 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 2: a little bit, which she's doing a podcast without Kick. 144 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 2: She was on our show Sunday Night. And think about 145 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 2: where we are that the party that claims that it 146 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 2: cares about women is now very comfortable with guys like 147 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 2: Keith Olberman taking random attacks at Riley Gaines and saying 148 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 2: you suck as a swimmer when she's one of the 149 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 2: best at swimming in all of women's college athletic. 150 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 3: Well, right, it's not even like she failed to qualify 151 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 3: for the meat or which still she could be an 152 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 3: exceptional swimmer. It's not even like she was D three 153 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 3: and couldn't swim D one. She's pretty much the best 154 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 3: in her event in the actually was the best in 155 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 3: her event in the country as a woman. But it's 156 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 3: a stupid argument from a man who doesn't feel the 157 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 3: need to put any intellect into what he does anymore. 158 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: It's all just vile. 159 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 3: It's just venting spleen while he's, you know, doing whatever 160 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 3: Keith Olberman does these days. Not a nice guy, by 161 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 3: the way, very bad reputation even among lives in the media. 162 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 2: This is, by the way, to Riley's point, exactly how 163 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: good she was, apparently holding the Southeastern Conference record and 164 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 2: being one of the fastest Americans of all time, and 165 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 2: the two hundred butterfly is amateur. 166 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: This is what she tweeted to me last night. 167 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: I broke that record taking a shot at me here 168 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 2: at that obnoxiously orange school you happen to like. She 169 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: went to the University of Kentucky. I am a University 170 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 2: of Tennessee fan, So she is taking a shot at 171 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: my school there in a funny way, she broke the 172 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 2: record there. But she literally is one of the best 173 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: swimmers who has ever existed in the Southeastern Conference, which 174 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 2: is I think, humbly the best sports conference in America. 175 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: Now you think that talking about Georgia was controversial, I'm 176 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 2: gonna get tellushed by the way, I'm getting tagged for 177 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 2: you saying that you were both. 178 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: An Alabama and an Auburn. 179 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 2: Fan in our one, and people are fed up with 180 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 2: your attempt to be a more Eagle and a roll 181 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 2: Tide fan simultaneously. 182 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 3: I try to bring the sides together, Georgia. I'm trying 183 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 3: to keep everybody on the team here. 184 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: I'm getting lit up for you trying to claim that 185 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 2: you can take both sides of one of the most 186 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 2: intense rivalries in all of sports. This is like being 187 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 2: a Red Sox and a Yankees fan simultaneously, which Barack 188 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 2: Obama probably a promise to be at some point in 189 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: time because it sounds like something he would have said. 190 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 2: But this, uh, this also ties in do we have 191 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 2: to tell? 192 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: What do we got? 193 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 2: I want to I want to set the table for this, 194 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: tu Buck, because you read this article too, because I 195 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 2: mentioned it. 196 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: I mean the vague thing that that. 197 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 3: Look Karl Rove is for many, I think the quintessential 198 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 3: representation of establishment republican political consultant. 199 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: Right now, I don't. 200 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 3: I would ask anyone who would be the other name 201 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 3: that you would put up against him as the quintessential 202 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 3: GOP establishment machine guy and men, did he go after 203 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 3: a Vike Rome, he went after a vik So much 204 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 3: that I think it will do nothing but probably help. 205 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: They talk about this in a moment, but I want 206 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 2: you to out there to listen to me. Read the 207 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 2: opening paragraph here. This is what Karl Rove in today's 208 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: editorial page of the Wall Street Journal says about the 209 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 2: veg Ramaswami. A particularly low point of last week's GOP 210 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 2: presidential debate came in around on the thirty nine minute mark. 211 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 2: And here get ready, when an unusually glib, shallow, overbearing, 212 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 2: smooth talking biotech entrepreneur proclaimed himself quote, the only person 213 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 2: on the stage who isn't bought and paid for. That's 214 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 2: when most Americans and most Republicans got their first real 215 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: look at the vay Rama Swami. Glib, shallow, overbearing, smooth talking. 216 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: Shots. 217 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 2: The whole column is an attack on the veke Ramaswami. 218 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 2: Why what is the impact? 219 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: Buck? 220 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 2: And I will discuss that with you when we come 221 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 2: back in a couple of moments. But first I want 222 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 2: to tell you all about my friends at Tunnel to Towers. 223 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 2: You know I'm headed up to New York in October 224 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 2: to help raise money for them at one of their 225 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 2: big charity events. 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Klay Travis and Buck Sexton, all right, 241 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: welcome back here. 242 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 3: We're gonna be talking to you in a moment about 243 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:53,719 Speaker 3: this car rove, theveg takedown, and we're gonna want to 244 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 3: hear or. 245 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: Attempt it, I should say attempted takedown. 246 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 3: I'm not sure how successful any of you would think 247 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 3: it is, although we're open to hearing from both sides 248 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 3: as always eight hundred two A two two AA two. 249 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 3: But first I wanted to say, and yes, I mean 250 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 3: the bias that I have is that I am a 251 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 3: Floridian and I think that this is a very well 252 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 3: run state. Having experienced for many years a not well 253 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 3: run state politically, this is a very well run state. 254 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 3: And I do think it has certainly arguably the best 255 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 3: and in my mind, the best governor in the country. 256 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 3: And you recall that before A. Ronda Santis' reelection, he 257 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 3: had the effort to deal with the last major hurricane 258 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 3: that came along the west coast of Florida and hit 259 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 3: the Fort Myers area with a devastating a devastating storm. 260 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 3: But the response was very adept, very quick and effective, 261 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 3: which made a real difference to the people who were 262 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 3: going through that natural disaster. Well, there's also the law 263 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 3: and order aspect of what happens after something like a 264 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 3: hurricane and the one that just came through here in Florida, 265 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 3: and I wanted to hear this is what govern DeSantis 266 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 3: has to say about it. 267 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: Play one. 268 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 6: I'd also just remind potential looters that people You never 269 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 6: know what you're walking into. If people have a right 270 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 6: to defend their property. This part of Florida, you got 271 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 6: a lot of advocates and some proponents of the Second Amendment. 272 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 6: And I've seen signs in different people's yards in the 273 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 6: past after these disasters, and I would say, it's probably 274 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 6: here we shoot. You never know what's behind that door. 275 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 6: If you go break into somebody's house and you're trying 276 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 6: to loot. These are people that are going to be 277 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 6: able to defend themselves and their families. 278 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 4: So I would not do it. 279 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: No clay it. 280 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 3: It's interesting I did a It wasn't required for me anymore, 281 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 3: but I wanted to anyway, So I did an intensive 282 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 3: concealed carry weapons course down I'm down here in Florida 283 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 3: in the last few weeks, excuse me. And one thing 284 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 3: that you get when you talk the instructors and you 285 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 3: go through that process is in Florida, if you were 286 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 3: defending yourself or your property, the law tends and acting reasonably, 287 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 3: the law tends to favor you. In Democrat states. Now 288 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 3: no I mean a Democrat place. Is if you're in 289 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 3: New York and you have a handgum that has lapsed 290 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 3: in registration, or you took it outside the city and 291 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 3: you weren't allowed to or something, and you use it 292 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 3: to defend yourself or your home, they're gonna lock you up. 293 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 3: It's very different here in Florida and in Tennessee, and 294 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 3: it makes a difference in the overall crime picture. But 295 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 3: I also I would imagine in a situation where there's 296 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 3: concerns of looting, having Second Amendment proponents makes a difference, 297 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 3: and the governor is pointing that out in no uncertain terms. 298 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: No doubt. 299 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: And I would point out that Trump got savaged for 300 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 2: saying something similar during the BLM riots when he said, 301 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 2: if you're looting, we're gonna shoot. I'm paraphrasing. The media 302 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 2: lost its mind because it was mostly peaceful will protest 303 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 2: and as we have well established, if you have the 304 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 2: right politics, the law doesn't matter. 305 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it's crazy. 306 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 3: It was nationwide rioting, as we all know, and we 307 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 3: were meant to live in fear as people got to 308 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 3: vent their rage at the often imaginary injustices of the 309 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 3: system that MSNBC has created in their minds. 310 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 2: And that they will repeat in twenty twenty four. If 311 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 2: you think BLM's gone because crime is skyrocketed in the organization. 312 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 2: They'll bring it right back for whoever the Republican nominee is. 313 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: Here's a prediction I haven't heard anywhere else. 314 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 3: Then I'll put on the record if Trump wins in 315 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, the left will riot, Yes, and it's 316 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 3: not going to be one riot that people pretend is 317 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 3: the worst thing since or as bad as nine to eleven, 318 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 3: as bad as Pearl Harbor or whatever. 319 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: It's not going to be that. It will be riots 320 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: all over the country. 321 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 4: Action. 322 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 3: Yes, it will be the it won't be one riot 323 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 3: they exaggerate. It'll be endless riots that they try to 324 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 3: downplay and actually say is justified. If Trump wins, the 325 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 3: left will riot, you can almost guarantee. And you'll know 326 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 3: because the stores are going to get boarded up. People 327 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 3: are going to get freaked out again and rightly. 328 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 2: So, and they will justify it by saying rioting is 329 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 2: just a. 330 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: Voice of the dispossessed. Yes, how what else do you 331 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: expect these people to do? 332 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 2: When there is a white supremacist entering the White House? 333 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 2: They will all defend it to the integree. After telling 334 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 2: you that January sixth, was the worst day in this 335 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 2: country since the Civil War. 336 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: Worse than Pearl Harbor, worse than nine to eleven. 337 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 2: That's what some members, Joe Biden himself and his idiot 338 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 2: Press secretary Karine Jean Pierre, that's what they will try 339 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 2: to say. 340 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 3: I think everyone should really keep that in mind, that 341 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 3: if you're a Democrat, you can go anywhere in the 342 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 3: country and say that January sixth was as bad as 343 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 3: nine to eleven. Those of us who remember nine to 344 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 3: eleven think about what happened on that day, and this 345 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 3: White House will compare that to protests where the only 346 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 3: person who died was an unarmed world Ashley Babbitt. The 347 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 3: dollar bills we carry in our wallets may be a 348 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 3: thing of the past. According to some individuals with knowledge 349 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 3: about these things, They think our currency could be replaced 350 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 3: with a digital version sometime in the future. 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As we have 369 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: talked a great deal about the situation in Georgia, so 370 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 2: that story is out there. Also, I want to hit 371 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 2: this as we get ready for Ian Miller. Yesterday we 372 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 2: discussed Mitch McConnell freezing again during a event in the 373 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 2: state of Kentucky. The physician Brian Monaghan of the Capital 374 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 2: just put out this statement. I have consulted with leader 375 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 2: McConnell and conferred with his neurology team after evaluating yesterday's incident. 376 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 2: I have informed Leader McConnell he is medically clear to 377 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: continue with his schedule as planned. Occasional lightheadedness is not 378 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 2: uncommon in concussion recovery and can also be expected as 379 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 2: a result of dehydration. And again Brian Monahan, who is 380 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 2: a Capital physician, giving a clean bill of health to 381 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 2: eighty one year old Mitch McConnell. We bring in now, 382 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 2: which I think many of you out there question based 383 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 2: on the videos that you and we have all seen, 384 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 2: But we bring in now Ian Miller, who has done 385 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: fabulous work at ian MSc on Twitter. He's been putting 386 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 2: out graphs for years now analyzing masking and how ineffective 387 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 2: it is. 388 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 1: He writes at OutKick Now. 389 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 3: I was gonna say Ian's mask graphics when I was 390 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 3: doing five hours of radio a day by myself in 391 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 3: my apartment under lockdown in New York City, raging about 392 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 3: the stupidity of masks. Ian, your graphs kept me safe 393 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 3: and warm. 394 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: Thank you. 395 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 4: I appreciate it. I'm glad to know, glad you know 396 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 4: they were so helpful. 397 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 2: I would have gone crazy if I had to live 398 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: like Buck was living in New York City. I'm not 399 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 2: I really legitimately think I would have gone crazy. I'm 400 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 2: glad I lived in a red state. You live, I 401 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 2: believe in La correct or the LA area. What's going 402 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 2: to happen with masking? You went through this, You've written 403 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 2: about it, data analyzed it. Where is this all headed? 404 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 2: As tomorrow we officially enter into September and everybody out 405 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 2: there knows COVI and flu season every year happens in 406 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 2: the fall winter as people spend more time indoors. So 407 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: this certainly with COVID and everything else, is bound to increase. 408 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 2: What's going to happen in your mind? 409 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think a lot of us were really worried 410 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 7: about what was going to happen down the road after 411 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 7: experts and to CDC and Pouch and those other politicians 412 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 7: kind of committed to saying that masks were effective against 413 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 7: respiratory viruses despite overwhelming evidence and all the graphs that 414 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 7: I've done. But there's a lot of other work out 415 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 7: there that that's proved this over time, including by the 416 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 7: CDC and World Health Organization. But once they committed down 417 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 7: that path, there was no way for them to get 418 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 7: out of it. And we're seeing it now where you 419 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 7: have the media and you have these expert organization saying, oh, 420 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 7: we need to bring back masks. There's a new COVID 421 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 7: variant as we get into respiratory virus season in the winter, 422 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 7: as this cases go up. I'm very worried in La 423 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 7: You know, just one quick example, the Lionsgate story, where 424 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 7: this major Hollywood studio of reinstated mask mandates. They came 425 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 7: out and put out a statement saying that they didn't 426 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 7: do it. La County Public Health told them they had 427 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 7: to because there was an outbreak of COVID cases. So 428 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 7: La County Public Health is already doing this that individual businesses. 429 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 7: You know, how much worse is it going to get? 430 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 7: As you know COVID numbers probably increase here into the 431 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 7: fall in the winter. I'm very concerned that we might 432 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 7: see some of these policies come back to some extent. 433 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 3: Well, do we have some gold standard, real studies specifically 434 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 3: that have been done in let's say the last six 435 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 3: to twelve months that just show people what they should 436 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 3: have known all along. But you know, for the left, 437 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 3: this is a religious belief. Now, I mean, masking is 438 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 3: a religious belief. But do we have anything in you 439 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 3: point people too, that just says, go look at the 440 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 3: such and such study. This stuff masking does not work 441 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 3: really at all. I mean it's statistically effectively zero. 442 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 4: Right. 443 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, there's the Cochrane Library, which is kind of considered 444 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 7: to be the gold standard of earned evidence reviews, where 445 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 7: they take they just take the highest quality evidence. 446 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 4: Usually it's randomized control trials. 447 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 7: They examine what the data shows, and then they release 448 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 7: a conclusion. They did this I want to say, maybe 449 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 7: six months ago or so on masking to stop respiratory viruses, 450 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 7: and they found that all the available high quality evidence 451 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 7: showed that they did not stop respiratory virus transmission. I 452 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 7: mean that should have been There's been twenty five times 453 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 7: where it should have been the end of masks permanently. 454 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,239 Speaker 7: But if anything was going to do it for all 455 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 7: these people that claim to be following the science and 456 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 7: following the evidence, that. 457 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 4: Should have been it. It should have been over. 458 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 7: But it can never be over because it's not really 459 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 7: actually about the science and the evidence, right, It's about 460 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 7: doing whatever is politically expedient at the time. 461 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 4: But there is this Cockran Library review. I wrote about 462 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 4: it for our Pick. 463 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 7: I've mentioned it in the books and other work I've done. 464 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 7: It's we've known this for a while. They did this 465 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 7: review at twenty two and it's the same thing. Nothing 466 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 7: has changed. That's never worked, and there's no evidence that's 467 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 7: changed that over the last couple of years. 468 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 4: Ian. 469 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 2: What we saw happen a lot over the last several 470 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 2: years is there was almost a race for everybody to 471 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 2: reinstitute mandates. 472 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 4: Right. 473 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: It was like a left wing race. 474 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 2: And so you would see a city like Philadelphia, or 475 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 2: a city like Washington, d C. 476 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: Or LA or New York City, a place that. 477 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 2: Is only run by left wing politicians, one of them 478 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 2: makes that decision, and then you would see everybody else 479 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: rush to follow. LA has been one of those cities 480 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 2: in the past. I know we're just sitting here on 481 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 2: August thirty first, but do you think a city will 482 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 2: reinstitute a mask mandate? 483 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: Will they try? And if they do, will it work? 484 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 4: Right? I think that's I mean, that's the question, well wondering. 485 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 7: I would say, if there is a city that's going 486 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 7: to do it, LA would probably e the one. You know, 487 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 7: last summer they tried to do it in July, just 488 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 7: over a small increase in COVID cases and there wasn't 489 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 7: mense pushback and they kind of backed down, but you know, 490 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 7: they were sending out guidelines preparing agencies to enforce another 491 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 7: mask mandate. I don't see why that would change now. 492 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: It's do you yeah, that's important you live in LA. 493 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 2: Do you think enough people in the LA area, certainly 494 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 2: in Orange County. I think it's happened for people who 495 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 2: don't know LA. 496 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: Well. 497 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 2: Orange County to the south tends to vote more Republicans 498 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 2: certainly than LA County. But do you think enough people 499 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 2: in LA have finally gotten and realized that masking doesn't work? 500 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 2: Or do you think they would just meekly acquiesque and 501 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 2: mask would sprout up everywhere all over again. 502 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 7: I think that there's still enough people that would comply 503 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 7: with it that it would be it would be followed 504 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 7: here in LA. I think that the you know, we 505 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 7: saw that, I thought it would have been over long ago, 506 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 7: the people would stop complying, But there really isn't an 507 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 7: end to compliance. If there is a mandate in place, 508 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 7: people will follow it. I do think the percentage of 509 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 7: people who don't want on a mask anymore, or who 510 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 7: have admitted that it doesn't work, has grown over time, 511 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 7: even in places like LA and seeing San Francisco, but 512 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 7: it's still too high among the left because they can't 513 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 7: admit that they were wrong. You know, they don't want 514 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 7: to acknowledge that they made these mistakes and that the 515 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 7: authority figures that they followed misled them for. 516 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 4: Two or three years. 517 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 7: You know, that's that's not an acceptable solution for them. 518 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 7: So I'm worried that there are still enough people that 519 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 7: it would be followed, it would be enforced across it 520 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 7: across places like LA. Yeah, because at Orange County, San Diego, 521 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 7: not necessarily, but La, San Francisco, those kinds of cities. 522 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 4: I could definitely see it coming back. And even if 523 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 4: it's not. 524 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 7: A general mandate, you know, it could go back into 525 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 7: healthcare settings or on public transit, which is limited but 526 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 7: still bad enough, and really, you know, hurts a lot 527 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 7: of people even in those fields. So I'm definitely worried 528 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 7: about that. 529 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 3: And if you decide to triple masks in response to 530 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 3: LA's possible mask mandate, will you promise this You'll take 531 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 3: video of you walking around telling Los Angelos who only 532 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 3: have one or perhaps two masks, that they're upsetting you 533 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 3: your literally right now, because they don't take the virus. 534 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: Seriously. 535 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 4: I love that idea. I think it's a great comedian 536 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 4: that a man on the street just be walking around 537 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 4: with three masks. 538 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 7: They're double duct tapes in my faith, telling people that 539 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 7: they're they're not doing enough to start. 540 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 3: I guarantee you if you walked around, and this will 541 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 3: be true in New York as well, if you walked 542 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 3: around with a cloth mask with an N ninety five 543 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 3: on top and a cloth mask on top of that, 544 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 3: and you went up to people and said, in those places, 545 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 3: this is the safest way to be, you would convince 546 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 3: people to triple mask. 547 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: I promise you there's no doubt. I would put money on. 548 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 7: This one hundred percent believe that it's it's really become 549 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:37,479 Speaker 7: a like you said, it's become a religion. 550 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 4: It's it's very frustrating to see it. 551 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 3: Go check out ian's work at OutKick dot com. Clay 552 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 3: has one more thing for you. Yeah, one quick question, 553 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 3: maybe the most important so far. 554 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: You're in LA. 555 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 2: You're a big Dodgers fan. Are you willing to acknowledge 556 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 2: that the Atlanta Braves are the best and most superior 557 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 2: team in all of baseball this year? 558 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 7: I won't acknowledge it on the record, but oft the record, 559 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 7: maybe we'll have that kind of vera no data that 560 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 7: Brads are incredible this year. The offense is as like 561 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 7: one of the best I've ever seen. I really, I've 562 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 7: been already talking about avoiding them in the playoffs that 563 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 7: we get that far. So hopefully, hopefully they can get 564 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 7: out in the NLTS. 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We got 601 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 3: a lot of things going in to Clay and Buck 602 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 3: feed for your listening on demand, listening, enjoyment. So go 603 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 3: and check that out. We have there's okay, let's do that. 604 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 3: Do we want to do the Viveke thing. We talked 605 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 3: about it so much. I think we got We've got 606 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 3: a couple of calls we might be able to get to. 607 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: At the end. So stay with us if you're on 608 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: hold right now. But let's get to this. 609 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 3: So this is the article Wall Street Durnal opinion vivek 610 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 3: Ramaswami political performance artist. 611 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: Like that's taking He's taken a shot. 612 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 3: He has no government experience, Carl Rove writes, but plenty 613 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 3: of conspiratorial demagoguery to sell. 614 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: Now. 615 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 3: I think a lot of this audience. It's interesting. Karl 616 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 3: Rove is on Fox News a lot. He's a very 617 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 3: connected guy in GOP circles. But you get people that 618 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 3: will that there's mixed opinions. I would say within the 619 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 3: GOP base. That's one way to put it on Carl Rove. 620 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 3: But here's one thing he writes, for example, Clay there's more. 621 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 3: This is quoting the op ed in the Wall Street Journal. 622 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 3: During a New Hampshire Q and A in June, a 623 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 3: voter claimed the Federals is illegally taking money out the 624 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 3: back door, not through the proper channels, or adding zeros 625 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 3: to bank accounts, to the media or maybe your political opponents. 626 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 3: He asked, mister Ramaswami, how are you going to stop 627 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 3: that illegal under the table spending of federal Reserve money? 628 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 3: With a sign in blazon truth behind him, Ramaswami indulged 629 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 3: the crank rather than set him straight. Quote you're correct 630 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,239 Speaker 3: to point out what very few people are aware of. 631 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 3: Absolutely that happens. End Quote Clay, I've never Karl Rove 632 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 3: has gone after Karl Rove is calling Vivek an absolute 633 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 3: pandering fraud, that this whole up ed is Vivek is 634 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 3: a pandering fraud. He will indulge any conspiracy. He'll say 635 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 3: anything that he thinks will get some portion of the 636 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 3: MAGA or MAGA adjacent Republican base to go for him. 637 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 3: Why is Carl Rove so bothered vivic? I mean this 638 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 3: is he's swinging a sledgehammer in this article. 639 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 2: They don't like when somebody comes and upsets their expectation 640 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 2: of how power should be transferred. This is just the truth. 641 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 2: If you are an outsider. They don't want to believe 642 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 2: the same thing was said about Trump. They don't want 643 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 2: to believe that you can come into their world and 644 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 2: that you can have success as an outsider. In some way, 645 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 2: I think Carl Rove is offended by the idea that 646 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 2: Viveate can step into politics and be successful. 647 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,719 Speaker 3: Can I add this? This is again quoting from the article. 648 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 3: He is a performance artist who says outrageous things, smears 649 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 3: his opponents, and appeals to the dark parts of the 650 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 3: American psyche. 651 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: End quote. 652 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 3: He's just straight up saying Vivik will say anything, has 653 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 3: no moral compass whatsoever, will indulge the craziest conspiracy theories 654 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 3: in fantasies. 655 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: He's not advocating for a different candidate. Really in this play. 656 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 3: He's not saying I don't think the Vike's up for 657 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 3: the job, or he is saying, basically, the Veke is 658 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 3: an amoral fraud. That is this article in the Wall 659 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 3: Street Journal. I'm actually a little surprised the Wall Street 660 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 3: Journal let it go here, but they did. 661 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: It's a direct attack from Karl Rove. Here's the thing, though, 662 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: I think it actually helps a vac I said it. 663 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: I agree. 664 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 3: I think I think Vivike probably does better as a 665 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 3: result of this article. 666 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: You've seen this. I've seen this. 667 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 2: The people who rip me and the people who have 668 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 2: ripped you back, I couldn't pick them any better to 669 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 2: like you're often and. 670 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 3: I have all the best enemies, my enemies. If anyone 671 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 3: hates me, they're a terrible person. It's a rule, I'm 672 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 3: telling you, it's a rule. This is the world in 673 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 3: which we live. 674 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,959 Speaker 2: It used to be. I think you were defined by 675 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 2: people who like you. I think many ways now in 676 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 2: the online ecosystem, you are defined by many people who 677 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 2: hate you. And if the right people hate you, it's 678 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 2: better better than the right people liking you. And so 679 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 2: for Vivey, who is running as an outsider, I think 680 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 2: Karl Rove saying he's a fraud, saying he's a moral 681 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 2: saying he's awful is actually the best thing that could 682 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 2: happen for Vivek's overall appeal to the audience he's attempting 683 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 2: to appeal too. 684 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:18,919 Speaker 1: I said yesterday on the show. 685 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 3: I think it was yesterday that when Viveke talked about 686 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 3: Pence's missed opportunity on January sixth to change voting laws 687 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,240 Speaker 3: or something. But yeah, he should have certified the election. 688 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 3: That's just a bunch of throat clearing to not upset 689 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 3: the Maga bay. I know exactly what he was doing. 690 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 3: I mean, but I know what he's doing, and I 691 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 3: think that he's a smart guy and he's got some 692 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 3: other interesting ideas. So there's being there's being critical of 693 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 3: a statement, and that which which I will do and 694 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,959 Speaker 3: you will do in different you know, scenarios. But Karl 695 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 3: Rove is that this isn't being critical of a statement, 696 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 3: or if this is like it's like I said, it's sledgehammer, 697 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 3: it's throwing a. 698 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 2: I think what they're afraid of is Trump was a disruptor. 699 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 2: And I think a lot of Republicans hope that whenever 700 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 2: Trump seed this stage, which could be twenty twenty eight, 701 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 2: whenever it's going to be right a few years into 702 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 2: the future, that it's going to go back to traditional 703 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 2: Republican politics. And Vivek is the closest thing to Trump 704 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 2: it exists right now running Other than Trump, people. 705 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 3: Forget I mean, the Bush dynasty effectively ended the establishment 706 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 3: GOP as it had been known for twenty some odd years. 707 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,479 Speaker 3: I mean, if you really look back at a memory, 708 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 3: you HW Bush, Yeah, and you have George W. Bush 709 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 3: and you know, obviously the Clinton, the Clinton interregnum. Let's 710 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 3: get to a couple of calls here before we close 711 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 3: up shop. Frank in Phoenix, Arizona. We haven't had a 712 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 3: Phoenix call that day. What's up, Frank, I'll. 713 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 8: Just start with the statement, I think any Republicans who 714 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 8: votes for Trump and the primary is moron. He's not 715 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 8: going to win. He's he's running already on twenty twenty. 716 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 4: Okay, I can. 717 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 3: Feel I can feel millions of blood pressure readings going 718 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,320 Speaker 3: off across the country as he's Yeah. 719 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 8: Well that's why said it. Coming from Arizona. We got 720 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 8: wiped out here. We got wiped out with a governor 721 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 8: that you didn't even know was running. 722 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 2: Okay, thank you for the call. I appreciate not tiptoeing 723 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 2: up to the opinion. I do not agree with Frank 724 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,800 Speaker 2: that everyone who votes for Trump in the primary is 725 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 2: a moron, all right. I however, understand, fifty percent of 726 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 2: you in this audience think Trump walks on water. Fifty 727 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 2: percent of you think that Trump is going to lead 728 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 2: the Republican Party to a guaranteed defeat. 729 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: That is our audience. 730 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 2: Okay, both of those people cannot be right. 731 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: Well, we have elections. 732 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 3: Well, it's also why I mean, I'm very confident that 733 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 3: Alabama is going to win its game against Auburn this fall, 734 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 3: but I also know, deep in my heart Auburn's probably 735 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 3: going to pull it out against Alabama, and I will 736 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 3: cut whatever clip I have to afterwards play so it 737 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 3: looks like I was right. It's the most controversial thing 738 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 3: you've ever said.