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We'll announce that contest later this week. 42 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 3: So once again, follow us Twitter is Battleground IHR, Instagram 43 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 3: Battleground Podcast. But are you ready for this show? Today 44 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 3: we're talking with PCO. We're gonna discuss, you know, his 45 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 3: time with Brawl for Roll. We all saw what went 46 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 3: down on Live TV. We also saw what happened during 47 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 3: Dark Side of the Rings. We're gonna kind of get 48 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 3: pco's take on that. We're gonna talk about PCO and 49 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 3: Nick Aldus. Will that match ever happen if PCO. 50 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 4: Has anything to do with it. 51 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 3: Yes, we're gonna talk about PCO and his Monday night 52 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 3: videos and we'll Ring of Honor be back to live 53 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 3: shows soon. 54 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 4: We'll find out. But are you ready? Let's do this. 55 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 3: Here we go, let's get into the interview with PCO. 56 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 3: This is a really fun episode because we've had this 57 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 3: guy on the show before. We've hung out with him 58 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 3: at several Ring of Honor shows, and it is an 59 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 3: honor to get him back on the show, a man, 60 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 3: and it literally gives me nightmares. And I said this 61 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 3: last time, and he still gives me nightmares because I 62 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 3: follow him on Twitter and some of the videos scare 63 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 3: the living crap out of me. 64 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 4: PCO joins us today, how are you doing, man? 65 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: I'm great, fantastic actually, you know, just trying to use 66 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: that time to be productive and to get an edge 67 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: on everybody and just working harder. 68 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 4: You know, that's the thing. 69 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: You know. 70 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 3: I follow a lot of wrestlers and you are very 71 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 3: productive with what you're going I mean, every day there's 72 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 3: something new that that is popping up on your Twitter 73 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 3: feed of you and a video and taking out bad guys, 74 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: and I gotta say it is amazing content that you're 75 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 3: putting out. 76 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: Thank you very much, working so hard it's so tough 77 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:47,839 Speaker 1: to find locations, to to get the actors, to get 78 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: the casting, to get everybody on board a week after week. 79 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: It's a hell of a challenge, you know. 80 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 5: And I'll be creative, to be creative with suspense and 81 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 5: with you know, like all the ingredients that we need 82 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 5: when we watch a film and try to do that 83 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 5: in two minutes and twenty seconds on Twitter. 84 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: So but we show it on all of my other media, 85 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: you know, platforms like Facebook and Instagram and YouTube, but 86 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: Twitter is our main, our main crowd there, you know, 87 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: that's where the main you know, like the previous one 88 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: was like we touched over like seventy almost seventy thousand 89 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: just on Twitter. It was like fifty five thousand people 90 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: the people had had it on their feed, plus another 91 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: like five thousand on Instagram, and another five thousand on Facebook, 92 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: plus another maybe thousand or two on YouTube. So it 93 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: touches a lot of it seems by a lot of 94 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: people's right good. 95 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 3: And you know, you mentioned that you kind of have 96 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 3: trouble finding people if you ever shoot in Nashville as up, 97 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,799 Speaker 3: and we will will definitely come and help you shoot. 98 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 4: You know some stuff. We got a lot of places 99 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 4: you can go. 100 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:21,239 Speaker 1: So now we uh, it's not that we have trouble, 101 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: but we're trying to when we shoot, you know, it 102 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: takes at least like uh, it's it's almost forty hours 103 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: in a week, you know, pre production plus production and 104 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: the shootings about two days. So we're trying to say 105 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: the location. We don't want to go from one city 106 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: to another. We're trying to be like and within the 107 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: radius of like let's say, you know, five miles at least, 108 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: so we don't have to travel all the way just 109 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: to shoot another you know, another scene. So it's that's 110 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: why it's challenging. But I feel like every time it's 111 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: coming out on Monday night, you know, the PC Justice 112 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: video comes out on Monday night, the PC Indus true, 113 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: it's a it's like a new baby is born. It's 114 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: like you're working, you're working so hard, and then you 115 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: you watch it. And then the way we think about 116 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: it is that when ourselves are watching it and we're 117 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: popping for different things. I'm telling destrou or myself, if 118 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 1: we pop ourselves for things that we have done, people 119 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: who should be popping for, you know, the content that 120 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: we're given them because it's like, you know, I there's 121 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: so many things that I like about what we're doing. 122 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 3: So and it's kind of funny because every time, like 123 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 3: I'll scroll through Twitter, and you know, I see your 124 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 3: videos and we have a group chat with everybody that's 125 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 3: on the show, and that's like the first thing when 126 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 3: I see it. It automatically gets sent to everybody in 127 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 3: the group chat, and everybody loses their mind when they 128 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 3: figure out the video. And I mean, it's I gotta 129 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 3: hand it to you. And I've said it before. It's 130 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 3: amazing stuff that you're doing. And we love all the 131 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 3: content that you're putting out. 132 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: It keeps p CEO, like, you know, alive during this crisis, 133 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: this pandemic. You know, it's a it's a way to 134 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: reach out to wrestling fans and to be creative and 135 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: too to to enforce the character of p c O Industrial. 136 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: So that's that's why I'm very proud of what we're doing. 137 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: And uh, it opens up so many doors in a 138 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: way where I get followed by you know, different people 139 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: from you know, cinema and things like that, Hollywood stars 140 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: and and different people, So which is kind of cool. 141 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: You know, I really appreciate that. 142 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know you talk about during the pandemic 143 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 3: that's going on and you know, trying to stay active, 144 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 3: like you are still kind of in the ring making 145 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 3: sure that there's no ring russ when everything gets back, 146 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 3: has anything changed. 147 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I had a little problem, like I had a 148 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: ring set up in a gym, and the owner of 149 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: the gym where I was paying a rent to have 150 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: my rings set up there didn't want us to even 151 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: train like thirty minutes a day during the pandemic, Like 152 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: he was so scared of the rules, you know, being 153 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: enforced by the government that the only training that I 154 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: could access was like a Destru's gym. So at least 155 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: without you know, running the ropes, you know, I could 156 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: like do a lot of you know, conditioning workout and 157 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: a lot of weights and things like that. And working 158 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 1: one of the most important things for me. So it's 159 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: working my grips with my hands, because I think once 160 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: you got like one of the if the end is 161 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: the strongest thing of your whole body, you use your 162 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: hands for everything. So so we're really focusing on the 163 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: power on the hands and and all the rest. But 164 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 1: I'll always use like the fat grip. The three inches 165 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: fat grip. I'll never go on the straight like tiny bars. 166 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: It's always tough, you know, it's always hard and tough, 167 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: but it's pay enough, you know. I can see, uh, 168 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: you know, doing different other things. After that. Things are 169 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: getting easier and easier. And at least we could also 170 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: like set up like some sort of a rope system, 171 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: you know, where I can I can practice at least 172 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 1: a few things, you know, on the ropes. Even if 173 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: I can bump, I don't think. I don't think bumping 174 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: will ever be a problem for me. 175 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 4: So it's no. 176 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 3: We've seen you taking quite a few bumps and I'm like, 177 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 3: how the hell. 178 00:09:57,960 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 4: Does he get back up after this? 179 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 3: I mean, I remember watching you and it was I 180 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 3: want to say, maybe it was last year when Ring 181 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 3: of Honor had the pay per view in Nashville. You 182 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 3: had just split your head open the night before, and 183 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 3: then you still come out and do the swanton off 184 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 3: the top rope to the floor through a table, and 185 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, what the hell? Like literally Pco is not human, 186 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 3: That's why it's his Twitter. But I was like, literally 187 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 3: busted his head open the night before and he's still 188 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 3: out here, you know, taking bumps like it's nothing. 189 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 1: And talking about those videos PCO Justice, you know, it's 190 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: the same thing. It's like I do all the stunts 191 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: because you know, we can't afford to have a stunt man. 192 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: So I think. I don't know if you remember the 193 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: episode where we're chasing a guy that just was uh uh, 194 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: you know, was escaping at prison. You know, he was 195 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: getting out of the prison by escape. And then we 196 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: got to chase. We're chasing with cars and I'm jumping 197 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: from the roof of the hearst to the the top 198 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: of the other car, and like while we're going like 199 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: fifty or sixty, you know, about thirty forty miles an hour. 200 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: And then and then I got to get inside the 201 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: window and that small that small car from the top 202 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: and I led it right between the two cars in 203 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: the middle of the and the road. I took so 204 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: many bumps doing those videos too. I take so many risks. 205 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: I literally put my life at risk sometimes and it's 206 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: just I don't I think it's just worth it. I 207 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: mean not that I want to take my life away 208 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: from me, but I can't take the pain. I can't 209 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: deal with the pain. And it's worth it. Like I said, 210 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 1: when the videos are coming out. If people would only 211 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: know all the efforts and all they the the risk 212 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: that we're taking and all the stunts that I got 213 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: to put myself through. Uh, It's it's so crazy. It's 214 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: so crazy. But once it's all said and done and 215 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: then we see the product, we're really we're really happy 216 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: when we put it online on the Monday night, that's 217 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: I mean, that makes my week, my my week. Basically 218 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: on top of like you said, you know, uh, staying 219 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: in shape, getting good conditioning, making sure that when the 220 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: action restart, I'm fully ready, and not that I'm only 221 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: fully ready. I've got an edgile on top of the 222 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: other guys. I know a lot of guys do have 223 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: a ring ring access and things like that. But uh, 224 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: I think that we're working so hard. I'm working so hard, 225 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: you know, all my stuff that I think I might 226 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 1: end up, you know, getting a little a little hedge 227 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: over everybody else right now. 228 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 3: Has has you know, you talk about doing your own 229 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 3: stunt and stuff. Has anybody from like roh say, hey, 230 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 3: you might want to kind of you know, scale back 231 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 3: some just to make sure that you know, nothing happens 232 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 3: or no. 233 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: They haven't said anything yet. They know. That was part 234 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: of the deal when they signed me. They said, we 235 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: want you to keep on doing your videos, and we 236 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: really appreciate all the efforts that you put them to it. 237 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: And and I do invest some money into it too. 238 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: You know. I got to work with people like that 239 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 1: are from the industry of making movies, because I couldn't 240 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: do that on my own. I mean just sometimes just 241 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: putting the video together, the pust production. Sometimes it's just 242 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: the last viewoo took like forty hours to put together, 243 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: just to edit everything and to take so many shots. 244 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: And you know, the next month, next Monday, this one 245 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: coming in. I don't know what would be the day 246 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: the Monday coming up. But this, if it comes out 247 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: the way I think it's gonna come out, the way 248 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: we shot it and everything, it was a hard one 249 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: to shoot, it should be very very impressive and a 250 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: lot of people should be talking about it. Man, cannot 251 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: very very very excited about the next one coming out. 252 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: Hopefully it's gonna come out as I wish. 253 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 3: Oh Man, I cannot wait till Monday because I have it. 254 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 3: I set the little reminder button on Twitter where it 255 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 3: dings me every time you tweet, so I know when 256 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 3: the new thing is out, because I get so mad 257 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 3: if somebody beats me to it before I see it, 258 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 3: and then I'm. 259 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: Just come on, man, that's awesome. 260 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 4: Our guest Pco is on the show. 261 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 3: Something that we've all kind of kind of gravitated towards 262 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 3: as wrestling fans has been the documentary, you know, Dark 263 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 3: Side of the Ring during the pandemic. 264 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 4: We Binge watched it. 265 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know this season featured an episode on 266 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 3: Brawl for All what you are part of? Could you 267 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 3: walk us through what you remember about that tournament that happened. 268 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was to me, it was put together very quickly, 269 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: and I remember like I was not on the regular roster. 270 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: I mean, they had stopped the Quebecers for a while. 271 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: That was our second run as the Quebecers in ninety 272 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: eight ninety nine, and it wasn't as successful as the 273 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: first one where we became champions for three times during 274 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: that year that you know, when we the first time 275 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: that the Quemakers came out ww and this one was 276 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: a little bit tougher. So they had fired Shock, kept 277 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: me under contract and they were about to start a 278 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: new character with me, and I remember I was waiting 279 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: for that new character to start like they Like, I 280 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: had a few four calls from from John saying, Okay, 281 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: get the Cape and get the boots they wanted, like 282 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: a sort of a Dino Bravo and a David boy 283 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: Smith type of deal, you know, So with the Cape 284 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: and the Quebec flir, the lease in the back and 285 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: all the colors that they wanted this. So anyways, I'm 286 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: getting the phone calls from Bruce Patchert and he goes, hey, PC, 287 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: Evan's got a great idea for you. And I'm all 288 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: fired up, you know. So he goes, Yeah, it's gonna 289 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: be a real shoot tournament. It's like twenty ounces boxing glove, 290 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: three one minute rounds. You're gonna shoot, like shoot in 291 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: the legs. If you bring the guy down, it's five points. 292 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: And so he goes on with some of the rules 293 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: and he goes it's five thousand per match, and then 294 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: it's twenty five thousand to the quarterfinal, fifty thousand to 295 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: the semi final, one hundred thousand to the final. Anyways, 296 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: at the end of the whole thing, if you win 297 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: the whole thing, it's like two hundred thousand dollars and 298 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: that was gonna be over a length of a month, 299 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: you know, not even you know that was gonna be 300 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: shot fast, you know, four weeks or something like that. 301 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: It's pretty so I was thinking about it. They called 302 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: me just a week a week notice because I got 303 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: I felt like some guys were they knew, like probably 304 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 1: Steve Williams, I've heard. I don't know, I've got no 305 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: nobody like maybe Bruce Pitcher or someone like that could 306 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: could come firm. But I already had like three months 307 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: ahead of time. He knew that something was gonna happen, 308 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 1: or quite a lot of time in front of you know, 309 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: before this tournament started in you so, he was training 310 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: in Japan and I've heard it sometimes he had like 311 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 1: three guys at a time fighting him in the ring 312 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: and then anyways, he was designed to win the tournament. 313 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: Was designed for doctor Debt to win that tournament right then. 314 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: It was also designed. Vinceussou explained it, and I think 315 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: he was really honest about that. That the fact that 316 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 1: Bradshaw was bragging that he was the toughest dude in 317 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: the back, so that was another reason why they wanted 318 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: to do that. But I think they wanted to Okay, 319 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna see if Bradha's and stuff as he thinks, 320 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: and in the meantime, we're gonna do that to put 321 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: Steve Williams over and me has just got a weak notice. 322 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: They called me and they asked me for what is 323 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: that's gonna be next week and your first opponent will 324 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: be doctor Debt Steve Williams. So I knew about the 325 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: reputation of doctor Debt because it was a four times 326 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: All American and wrestling like so he was like great 327 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: in college. He had played for the Oakland Raiders and 328 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 1: the NFL Football Alignment and it was like a superstar 329 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: in football also. And just before my match they had him, 330 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: they had the coach of the former coach of the 331 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders saying that Steve Williams was like someone that 332 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: could never put him down because one time he saw 333 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: him having over one hundred stitches in his space and 334 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: he finished again the football game. And at that time, 335 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: I didn't know what the takedown was. I didn't know 336 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: what was one leg takedown, a double leg takedown fireman scary. 337 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: I knew from pro wrestling, but I didn't know it 338 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: was like something that was really a shoot move in 339 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: amateur wrestling and things like that. So I didn't know 340 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: nothing about the bottom of the body. I didn't know. 341 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: I didn't know nothing. I didn't know what to do 342 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: with that. You know, I want to take down? Do 343 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 1: I take someone down? So anyways, I took a few boxing, 344 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 1: you know, classes to try to get the rust out 345 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: of me and just you know, put some chances on 346 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 1: my side. I brought a coach with me on the road. 347 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: So the week that I brought my mama coach, they 348 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: decided not to have me fight. So they said, we 349 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 1: made a mistake. You're gonna fight the next week, not 350 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: this week. So the next week I went and then 351 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: that was a fight against Steve Williams. They postponed it 352 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: one week, which I was like, I spent a lot 353 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: of money on my coach, So the next week I'm 354 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: gonna I'm saying to myself, I'm gonna take those two 355 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: generate coach because you have like the two coaches that 356 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: were doing all the matches for everybody, So you either 357 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: had like the blue coach or the red coach, whatever 358 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: depending on the ass and they were saying all the 359 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: same like drop to everybody, Okay, keeps your hands up, 360 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: do this. We got to check the lady. But it 361 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: was all the same songs, you know, over and over. 362 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: So anyways, I go there and just before my fight, 363 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: uh hawk, as the road Warriors came up to me, 364 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: I said, man, he said, I'm gonna tell you, Carl, 365 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: this is Steve is a very very dangerous man. You 366 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: might just like kill you out there. You know. 367 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 4: So he said. 368 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 1: That gives you some confid yeahh so he said, you know, 369 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 1: he just he says he doesn't want to hurt you 370 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: because he likes you. So when he tags you with 371 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: the first bunch, just go down and don't move, don't 372 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 1: get up, and just pick up the five grand. And 373 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: I look at Mike Hut, Mike Extreme. I looked at him, 374 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: as Mike, You're gonna have to go back to Steve 375 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:04,239 Speaker 1: and tell him that I don't know if I can 376 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: swear on your show, because I did swear there, but 377 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: you can. 378 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,959 Speaker 3: Have an excussive button and everything. 379 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: So I I said, go back to Steve and tell 380 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: him that he's in for a hell of a fucking fight, 381 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: because I'm not gonna go down with this motherfucker to 382 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: tell him that. So uh So, that was my my 383 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: mindset going into that tournament. I didn't want no bullshit. 384 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: I didn't want to go down for anybody. So I 385 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: uh so I felt they put me against the guy 386 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: was supposed to win the whole thing, and I felt 387 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: that was a receipt for me for you know, my 388 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: incident with Kevin Nash. You know, we're not gonna talk 389 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: about it, but you know, the Montreal incident where me 390 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: and Kevin Nash was a championship match, and for various 391 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: reasons that are totally outside of of me, not wanted 392 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: to be business. It was purely personal between me and 393 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: Nash at that time, and I totally thought that I 394 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 1: had the reason to do so. I refused to put 395 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 1: him over, and I felt like the office never liked that, 396 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: and I felt that they wanted to give me a 397 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: receipt by putting me first match against doctor that with 398 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: one eye, because they're they're they're emphasizing, like Jim Ross 399 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: during the show, if you recall, Jim Ross said, you 400 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: know PCO didn't need to be there because he had 401 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 1: only one eye and he's got limited like perifical vision. 402 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: You know, it was it was like dangerous for him 403 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: and I didn't care, you know. I looked at it 404 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: as a maybe a chance, you know, to get where 405 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 1: if I could knock him out. And I believed in 406 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: my chance, even though I didn't work out at all 407 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 1: for that. I didn't have the chance to practice. I 408 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: didn't have a chance to have a training camp, a 409 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: proper training camp. I just show up there with what 410 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 1: I knew, you know, which was basically, you know, was 411 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 1: kind of a street fighting, you know, whatever I had 412 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: learned at school. 413 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 4: Or you know, just go out there and be scrappy. 414 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I mean they stopped them at 415 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: it was eight seconds to go, and I thought it 416 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: was like they did that to make him look good. 417 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: And I don't think I was in any danger because 418 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: it was we were both a little bit out of 419 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: gas by the end of the third round. I can 420 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: ever tell he was hitting me. I didn't feel anything, 421 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: and I lost a lot of gas because I was 422 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: throwing like super huge bomb. I really wanted to take 423 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: his head out of his body, so I would go, 424 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 1: I would wind I would wind that up from the 425 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: back of my you know, from the all the way 426 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: back and woom, and he was it was just ducking 427 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: my punch because he could sit like a big beach 428 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: ball coming at him, you know. So uh, I just 429 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 1: so I wanted to get his head so hard, you 430 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: know that I was winding up so far out. And 431 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: then you know, during my life after that, I learned 432 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: about boxing and I learned about MMA. 433 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 6: And everything's got to be snappy, you know, out of 434 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 6: the bang, out of the blue, quick and fast. You know, Uh, 435 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 6: you throw bumber only when the guy's in the rope 436 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 6: and he's done, you know, but. 437 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 1: If you want to surprise him and cut him off guard, 438 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: you got to you know, a quick snap jab or 439 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: a quick cook. You know, I didn't know nothing, so 440 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: I think I did great. You know, Brewster Shirt was 441 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 1: really impressed by my pur my performance, and I I 442 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: showed that I had the guts you know, to uh 443 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: to go against the guy that was labeled as the 444 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: toughest s ob you know from his years and New 445 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: Japan progressing, he had injured so many guys. He had 446 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: injured so many guys in n w A and you 447 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: U w F and uh everywhere that he had been 448 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: like he was a true bully. You know, I've seen 449 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: him bullied a lot of kids, you know, uh during 450 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: his time when we were you know, coming up like there, 451 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: because he was doing some training camps at Stanford, Connecticut, 452 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: Like during the summer. We had a few camps where 453 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: I was part of it with him, and he was 454 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: it was like the guy that was always uh working 455 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: on the uh showing that he was not all there. 456 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: And then he was a tough dude and someone like that. 457 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: So and Bart, you know, I was traveling a lot 458 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: with Bart Gunn, the winner of the tournament. Bart was 459 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: a guy who was humble. It was he was bragging, 460 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: but for fun, you know. He was never he would 461 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 1: never take advantage of someone. Uh. 462 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 4: He wasn't a bridge we. 463 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: Well yeah yeah, yeah. Bradshaw too, like he was like 464 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 1: uh yeah. But those guys like Bradshaw and once you 465 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: step up, like to him, even Vader sometimes it was 466 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: like that once you even bigelo something, if you didn't, 467 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: if you didn't like uh you know, step up and 468 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: and do something about it, they would they would eat 469 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 1: you up in the ring, you know, unless you do 470 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: you know, come back on them, you know, so once 471 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: you hit them back and whoa, okay, slow down, slow down. 472 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: So it was it was like that, you know at 473 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: the time, So, uh, there was a lot of tough guys, 474 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: but you know when when you did try to take 475 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: advantage of you and you have the guts to respond 476 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: and to show that you're not going to let them 477 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: abuse you physically or mentally. Uh, they respect you a lot, 478 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: and then that that stops everything. 479 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 3: Right most definitely you mentioned about your time with the 480 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 3: Combeckers and you know, being a part of Villain Enterprises 481 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 3: in r O H. Is there any current tag teams 482 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 3: on the scene that catch your eye that you think 483 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 3: you'd want to work with or do you just want 484 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,199 Speaker 3: to remain a singles competitor, Like, is there once we 485 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 3: get back into the swing of things, is there somebody 486 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 3: that you're like, Okay, let's let me, let me team 487 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 3: up with this person or you know who could that be? 488 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: I think I had a successful run with Rody King 489 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: as a tag partner. I think he's awesome, He's great, 490 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: and I think we we've got a great chemistry together. 491 00:28:53,560 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: But my uh, my goal coming back is really to 492 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: uh to go to the next level. Hopefully Roah will 493 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: embrace this project as well, and we'll put a lot 494 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: of efforts into the character, you know, perfect creation one 495 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: or the French Canadian Frankenstein. I think we haven't touched 496 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: ten of the possibility that could be done with this character, 497 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: as far as the electricity goes, as far as storylines, 498 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: as far as you know, different finishes that could be 499 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: done and things like that. I think this is the 500 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: probably one of the strongest character that you will never 501 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: find anywhere else in pro wrestling anymore. I think guys 502 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: are trying to find something to fit them and to 503 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: be like they are and to be an extension of themselves, 504 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: and it's hard for them. I've seen guys. It was 505 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: part of my deal to during my career of trying 506 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: to find the character that would fits me. And at 507 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: the end of the day when I was ready for it, 508 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: it's not you found that character, but that character found me. 509 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: And I think it's a latent potential that hasn't been used. 510 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: And I think he could literally, you know, pull the 511 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: company to different heights, you know, to somewhere that they've 512 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: never been before with you know, just not having the 513 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: perfect opponent as well. You know, something that would happen 514 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: organically without pressing any buttons. You know, something that you 515 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: see it and you go, oh, this is money, right, there, 516 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: you know. But first first we got to press the 517 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: buttons and use that character and get it over and 518 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, like, you know, the entrance gotta 519 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: be like we got. We gotta take care, take care 520 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: and take advantage of the entrance that could you know, 521 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: be worthwhile, you know the price of the entrance ticket 522 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: just just having the chance to watch a super you know, 523 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: spectacular entrance. I mean, that's that's one thing that a 524 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: lot of character cannot have, like an entrance that could 525 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: be that spectacular. There's so many things that we can 526 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: do that we have in mind, and it's just that 527 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: timing wasn't there. I mean, we did it at the 528 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: Garden last year, two thousand, the end of two thousand 529 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: and nineteen. Yeah, and I mean just probably when I 530 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: look at it, you know, from different angles, it's probably 531 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: like one of the greatest ring entrants ever. I mean, 532 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: Undertaker a great sing entrances for sure for thirty years. 533 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: But this particular entrance is like gives you the taste 534 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: of what it could be every night, you know. Man. 535 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, so we can build on that and hopefully 536 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: this show will be you know, we'll be with PCO 537 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: on bigger events. More than you know born and he's 538 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: been used lately, and I think people would would go 539 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: nuts over. 540 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 3: It, right, you know something that we all kind of 541 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 3: went nuts over. So last time Ringaman was in town. 542 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 3: I was back in February. You were in the main event. 543 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 4: It was you versus Dragon Lee for the title. We 544 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 4: got to hang out before. 545 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 3: The show, and you know, somebody came out and tried 546 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 3: to pick a fight with you, and that is the 547 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 3: current WA champion, Nick Alldus. And then you know, the 548 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 3: next night, you go off to uh You're in Gateway 549 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 3: to Honor. You're in Missouri, it's the main event. It's you, 550 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 3: Rouche and Mark Haskins in a three way, and somebody 551 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 3: causes you to lose the belts. So, you know, with 552 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,719 Speaker 3: with things going on, and you know, I scrolled through 553 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 3: Twitter and Nicollis opens an open challenge, are we going 554 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 3: to finally get to see PCO and Nickollus because we 555 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 3: got a little glimpse of it in Nashville that night. 556 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 4: Are we going to see this ever happen? 557 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 3: Because I think PCO would make a really good NWA champion. 558 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: I think so. And I know that they talked so too, 559 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: because that that was supposed to be the run for 560 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: the title or the original plan was supposed to be 561 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: PCO against Nick All this before it was supposed to 562 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: be PCO and Rouge, you know, so uh, I don't know. 563 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: And then we were doing business with the NWA, and 564 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: eventually we're not doing business with NWA. And then eventually 565 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: I got put in and that program with Rouge and 566 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: then I won the title that final battle. Uh. But 567 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: n w A, we're really pushing, uh for that the 568 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: title match with the pc and they call this, you know, 569 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: so now we were booked for the WrestleMania weekend, I mean, 570 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: and they call this, but that never saw the light, 571 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: you know, we never came through. So uh, that would 572 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: be and I think n w A and their studio too, 573 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: I think they would then they would they would really 574 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: push the pc O entrance in a way that you know, 575 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: it's just like we've seen at the MSG. So I 576 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: think that that's a good option. But it's always you know, uh, 577 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: I gotta say that ring of honor. I cannot say 578 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: anything because maybe maybe the they left that you know, 579 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: some gas under the pedal for them to you know, 580 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 1: go further with the character. And that was planned you 581 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: know that was part of the plan to Okay twenty twenty, 582 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 1: we're really gonna emphasize on PCO and we really want 583 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,879 Speaker 1: to give them all the entrance that he we think 584 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: he should have and then you know all the scenarios 585 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: that could go around with his characters. It's great character, 586 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,760 Speaker 1: but we we couldn't see it because it didn't happen. 587 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,240 Speaker 1: And I'm glad also that we didn't do. I'm glad, 588 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: like I got to say thanks to ring A Montor 589 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: because health come first for them. You know, they're right, 590 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: they're really they're really professional. They they're taking care of 591 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: their talent in a way that I've never seen it before. 592 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:57,399 Speaker 1: You know, we're we're getting paid fully paid. Is during 593 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: this crisis. They haven't laid out anybody, they haven't let 594 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:08,919 Speaker 1: go no one there. And if you look at what's 595 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: going on in the industry right now, uh, ratings are 596 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: at the lowest with no crowd. And you know a 597 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 1: lot of people are talking to me on Twitter and 598 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:26,800 Speaker 1: they want, you know, PCO to return, But I've always 599 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: answered them that wrestling, you know, you can have the 600 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: best match in wrestling if you have no crowd. I 601 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: mean wrestling the wrestlers, the referee, the bookers, the whole 602 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: wrestling business is only fifty percent of the product because 603 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 1: the other fifty percent of the crowd. Right, So so 604 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: when the crowds out there and and and the way 605 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: we think that we look at this business, we think, okay, 606 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: you got the star and you got the crowd, which 607 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 1: is kind of true, but you can look at the 608 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: crowd is the star. They're the stars too, and we 609 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: need the crowd to be stars. It goes together, you know, 610 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 1: It's not okay, these people are more important than these people. 611 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 1: They as important to each other, you know, they're they 612 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:30,280 Speaker 1: make the whole circle, you know, go around. So even 613 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: if you have That's why I don't think it does 614 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,720 Speaker 1: justice to any champion right now. It doesn't do justice 615 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 1: to any angle going on right now. It doesn't do 616 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: justice to any wrestlers trying to bust theirs right now. 617 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 1: Of course, you have to bust your ass and you 618 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: have to do it, but it doesn't do justice to 619 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: them because they don't have what we need. We need 620 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: people to be in the arena. That that makes the 621 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: whole difference. And you know, it might be a little 622 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,359 Speaker 1: bit different for some in hockey, but I don't think 623 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 1: it's going to be that much different. I think if 624 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: I watch a playoff, hockey playoff or the Major League 625 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 1: baseball games, I think I'm gonna tune in into it, 626 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna let go for a while and 627 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna maybe check the final score and maybe if 628 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: it comes down to the World Series or the Stanley Cup, 629 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 1: i might watch the whole game. But I'm not quite 630 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: sure yet. 631 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,720 Speaker 3: Right It'll be interesting to see because you know, we've 632 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 3: with with hockey. I've got another podcast that I do 633 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 3: with two wives from the National Predators. So it's it's 634 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 3: a very interesting thing to sit there and watch, you know, 635 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 3: hockey in a empty arena, or you know, soccer in 636 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 3: a empty arena or baseball, and especially also being a 637 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 3: wrestling fan, it's very weird to see no crowd and 638 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 3: then you see like wrestlers being in the crowd, and 639 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 3: it's just really because there's you don't get the pop 640 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:53,879 Speaker 3: like you would normally. 641 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you don't know to get to know who 642 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 1: the crowd loves the most and who the crowd hates 643 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,800 Speaker 1: the most, and the crowds are cheering for, and who's 644 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: the crowd wants to be behind and things like that. 645 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: So it's tough for the bookers to book things in 646 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 1: a way where they don't have any feedbacks from the crowd. 647 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 3: Right because you can't figure out if something you did 648 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 3: is gonna be good. 649 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 4: You have to look at it on Twitter afterwards. 650 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 1: Well, let's say it would be a pandemic. When Steve 651 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:27,439 Speaker 1: Austin said, you know, Jake, it's gonna be tomorrow night 652 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,799 Speaker 1: houstin three sixteen or whatever when the rumble happened, it 653 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 1: was never got over because that was the night where 654 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:39,800 Speaker 1: everybody showed up with signs and with no Houstin Austin, Austin, 655 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: and that's all you got over. It was because of 656 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:49,919 Speaker 1: the crowd. So that's why, you know, in a way, 657 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: I ring them on her by going and trying to 658 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: put the health at first, you know, the health of 659 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 1: every wrestlers and making sure everybody's healthy and making sure 660 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 1: that we all cool, and reinforcing their their their you know, 661 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: their library on Uner Club and things like that, and 662 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: working on different aspects and trying to get an edguring 663 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:15,320 Speaker 1: like what's going on. And then when we do restart 664 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 1: and hopefully we have people it's gonna make a hell 665 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: of a difference because, to be honest with you, right now, 666 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:30,919 Speaker 1: if you watch Impact or NXD or ae W or WWE, 667 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:33,799 Speaker 1: they all look alike. You know. 668 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,799 Speaker 3: You know, our guests on the show with us PCO 669 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 3: and a lot of people kind of asking the question 670 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 3: is you know when is Ring of Honor getting back 671 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 3: to doing shows? And we kind of talked on it 672 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 3: about how it's it's very hard to do the show 673 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 3: without an audience. I mean, you see every other promotion 674 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 3: doing it. But what what is your vibe on this? 675 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,279 Speaker 3: And they said anything to you guys or what do 676 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 3: you think? 677 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, i mean my vibe is hopefully we're gonna have 678 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 1: like we can work on a h estates where will 679 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 1: be allowed to have like some sort of crowd. If not, 680 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 1: you know, I'm getting paid for to wrestle, So even 681 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 1: if I don't like it, I will, you know, go 682 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 1: and give one hundred and of myself and put all 683 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 1: the efforts and all the crazy bumbs that I usually 684 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: do in front of no one's and not getting reactions. 685 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 1: But you know, I'll do it at least, you know, 686 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: I'll do my best. But I'm hoping that when we 687 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 1: start back you know, we're going to be different than 688 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,319 Speaker 1: all the other companies and we'll be able to have 689 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 1: a crowd and they probably will too. But at least 690 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:47,759 Speaker 1: we I'm going to feel like we didn't crushed our audience, 691 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: you know, like we add you know, because because they're 692 00:41:53,239 --> 00:42:00,359 Speaker 1: running on record of all time low ratings right now. 693 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:05,320 Speaker 1: So it's like it means that your champions not being seen, 694 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 1: your angles have not been seen, Your top talent like 695 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: you know, whatever Lesner or Kevin Owens or whatever guy's 696 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:22,879 Speaker 1: roman reigns, they're not being seen. And uh uh it's 697 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 1: just it's just so hard for the business, you know, 698 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 1: and that it must be hard for also the you know, 699 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,840 Speaker 1: let's say Fox or USA Network or TNT now to 700 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,720 Speaker 1: uh end up with with with low ratings like that. 701 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,880 Speaker 1: And uh, I think if we can get the chance, 702 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 1: you know, to put a product, you know, getting back 703 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:51,319 Speaker 1: with a you know, full gear, you know, so it's 704 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,360 Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna be at least this time off and 705 00:42:55,520 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 1: taking care of the the roster and the wrestlers and 706 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 1: making sure they're healthy, and uh and and and then 707 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,240 Speaker 1: don't forget we have also a lot of international talents 708 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:11,280 Speaker 1: from you know, people from Australia, from Europe, from Canada, 709 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 1: from all over the place. So what's uh, it's it's 710 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 1: a huge it's a huge task, you know, for for 711 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: ring On Honor officials to to go ahead and say, Okay, 712 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna start running. I think they want to. They 713 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: want to run full roster. They just want to run 714 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 1: show to run show, and they want to do well. 715 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 4: Right most definitely. 716 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 3: So you know where where's the best place people can 717 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 3: find you on social media? 718 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:48,879 Speaker 1: Uh? On Twitter at PCOS not Human. H on Instagram 719 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 1: at PCOS not Human. Facebook the same thing at PCOS 720 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:58,319 Speaker 1: not Human and uh on on YouTube PCO it's at 721 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,440 Speaker 1: Pierre Carl will at uh uh. But we're in the 722 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 1: We're about the change to the same endles all over 723 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 1: the place be PCs not Human. And I just opened 724 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 1: up a TikTok account and it's growing pretty fast. You know. 725 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 3: Uh. 726 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,240 Speaker 1: The key things with TikTok and some of the those 727 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 1: things that you have to put a lot of content 728 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 1: on them. So it's, uh, it's really challenging, like I said, 729 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:32,320 Speaker 1: you know, working out getting the conditioning there. You're putting 730 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: the stories together for the PCO Justice Monday Night videos 731 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 1: on Twitter and all over the media's and there's so 732 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: much work. I feel like I'm more busy during the 733 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 1: pandemic than i was when I was wrestling, because because 734 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 1: I know, yeah, yeah, it's a good thing. It's just 735 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:53,279 Speaker 1: because because we decided to put more efforts into our 736 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 1: Monday night videos and and and to get it like 737 00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,200 Speaker 1: in a in a way where you know, and it's 738 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 1: never been done in pro wrestling for for a long 739 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 1: period of time like that, and we just want to anovate, 740 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:11,279 Speaker 1: you know, and be different. And uh so it's uh, 741 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 1: it creates so much uh you know, uh buzz because 742 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,360 Speaker 1: it's so different than We're working hard, but that doesn't 743 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,920 Speaker 1: mean that, you know, I'm not taking care of my 744 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 1: main aspect, which is pro wrestling. You know, I've got 745 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 1: so much to accomplish. And like I told you, you know, 746 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 1: I think we we haven't been deep enough in the character. 747 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,840 Speaker 1: And uh it's one thing I want to exploit the 748 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 1: on a fully fully as much as we can, you know, 749 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 1: in all directions. I wanted to exploit that character. I 750 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,319 Speaker 1: want it to be like that, you know, something that 751 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 1: we've never heard about in this business about storylines and 752 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,880 Speaker 1: about what this character could do, and uh, all we 753 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 1: where we can bring in you know, like I said, 754 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:10,880 Speaker 1: I think the interest itself could be worth the price 755 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,760 Speaker 1: of the whole show. So that's that's my view on 756 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 1: on what we have to do. 757 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,359 Speaker 3: And we uh, we are waiting the day that we 758 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 3: get that that is back, but we are also waiting 759 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 3: for the notification. On Monday night, the PCO has a 760 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 3: new video out on Twitter. So PCO, I really do 761 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,319 Speaker 3: appreciate the time taking out today and hanging out with 762 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,439 Speaker 3: us and talking to us. And is there anything else 763 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 3: you want to tell everybody. 764 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 4: Before we jump off. 765 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 1: No, I mean I can't I can't wait to go 766 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 1: back to that area. I mean Nashville was great. When 767 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 1: I was there, I met so uh with with a 768 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:52,360 Speaker 1: lot of fans you know during the the autograph signs 769 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,279 Speaker 1: and know the VIPs and and things like that, and 770 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,799 Speaker 1: I made some great people and they were absolutely like 771 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:09,480 Speaker 1: a great welcome, you know when I got there, super noisy, 772 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,400 Speaker 1: super into it, And yeah, I can't wait to go 773 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,240 Speaker 1: back there. Nashville Tennis. 774 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, we can't wait. We can't wait. And the 775 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 3: door is wide open. So next time you're in Nashville 776 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,439 Speaker 3: and we have live events the studio is wide open 777 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 3: for you. 778 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 1: That's cool. I appreciate that anytime. 779 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,479 Speaker 4: Thank you PCO for taking the time out today. 780 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 1: Man, thanks a lot. Take care. 781 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 7: We hope you enjoyed today's episode of the Battleground Podcast. 782 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,240 Speaker 7: Make sure you give it five stars and a nice review. 783 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 1: To stay up to date with the 784 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:51,440 Speaker 7: Show, follow them at Battleground Podcast on Instagram.