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Speaker 2: Why my football podcast does really well, Why because that

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Speaker 4: You already blew my cover there. I like the favorites.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is a good week if you

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Speaker 4: No, see, I would love this if I'm on the

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Speaker 4: This is my jam. This is like, hey, we're walking

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Speaker 4: John essentially like if you go play one on one

429
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Speaker 4: against Yannis, well you're gonna get your ass kicked. But

430
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Speaker 4: maybe like heave one over his hand at some point

431
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Speaker 4: and somehow let's stop the backboard and bounces in. If

432
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Speaker 4: you and I go play Giannis and Steph Curry and

433
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Speaker 4: Luka Doncic in two on two it's gonna be even worse,

434
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Speaker 4: Like two superstars is gonna They're gonna double up on two. Well,

435
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Speaker 4: I don't know about you. I would say below average

436
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 4: players for me. Definitely for me too, But two superstars

437
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Speaker 4: that's even multiplying the differential between the talent levels. And

438
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Speaker 4: so you put those two guys together and I don't

439
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Speaker 4: see how they're not there right at the top of

440
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Speaker 4: the end of this thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm with you. I mean, I don't know

442
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 2: how you wouldn't bet against them. Let's go back to

443
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Speaker 2: last week, because we talked about in my philosophy last week,

444
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,640
Speaker 2: which I'm not going to use anymore. He's like, oh,

445
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,400
Speaker 2: Harbor Town take you know, kind of a long groags guy.

446
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 2: When you get these elevated events and you get these

447
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 2: big persons, I don't care if these guys just came

448
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 2: off Augusta or they just came off the local muni

449
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 2: that they're going to try. And now we have pretty

450
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Speaker 2: consistent evidence all season long, starting early in the season.

451
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Speaker 2: You got Tory, you got RIV, you got TPC, you

452
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 2: got obviously the players. Now this the time of it

453
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Speaker 2: doesn't matter. The cream is rising in all these tournaments. Yeah,

454
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Speaker 2: so a few things here.

455
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Speaker 4: First of all, I thought that a designated event the

456
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Speaker 4: week after a major championship would be a bad idea.

457
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Speaker 4: I figured, you know, the guys are going to be tired,

458
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 4: and they were a lot of them were, even if

459
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Speaker 4: they played well. Jordan Speith lost to the playoff. He

460
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Speaker 4: talked about being exhausted going into it. That said, as

461
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Speaker 4: far as the business product element for the PGA Tour,

462
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Speaker 4: it's not a bad idea to, as you said, double

463
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Speaker 4: down the week after a major championship. Look, the PGA

464
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 4: Tour doesn't own the rights to the Masters, and so

465
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Speaker 4: if you want to gain some momentum after all these

466
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 4: maybe new fans have watched the Masters. We saw there

467
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Speaker 4: are record numbers watching the broadcast from Augusta National, and

468
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 4: so what's what better way to get people watching? People go? Man,

469
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 4: that was really fun, John Rahm. That dude's really good.

470
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Speaker 4: I want to watch him. You don't have to wait

471
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Speaker 4: three weeks to go watch him again. All of a sudden,

472
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Speaker 4: he's on TV the very next week and you can

473
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Speaker 4: you can double down on that momentum. So I didn't

474
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Speaker 4: think it was a bad idea from a business perspective.

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Speaker 4: The players that showed up. I know we'll get into that.

476
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Speaker 4: Players that were there, they played hard, and I don't

477
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Speaker 4: think it's a coincidence that two of the more hard

478
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Speaker 4: working guys out there were two of the guys at

479
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Speaker 4: the end. We're in that playoff and Fitzpatrick and Speeth,

480
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Speaker 4: I mean, Fit says, Look, I don't know him that well,

481
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Speaker 4: but John he is a golf nerd to the core.

482
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Speaker 4: And I mean that in the best possible way. I mean,

483
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Speaker 4: for anyone out there who plays the game and then

484
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Speaker 4: goes out to the range after they play and works

485
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Speaker 4: on their game, and then goes and records their stats,

486
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Speaker 4: and then can't stop talking about their round, and goes

487
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Speaker 4: out the next day and does it all over again,

488
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 4: and then watches golf and watch his videos on YouTube.

489
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Speaker 4: Matt Fitzpatrick is your guy. That's the kind of guy

490
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Speaker 4: that he is. He's obsessed with the game. Jordan Spieth

491
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Speaker 4: is pretty obsessed with it himself. So again, probably not

492
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Speaker 4: a coincidence that those two guys out of everyone were

493
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Speaker 4: the guys left standing at the end of this thing.

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Speaker 2: My favorite fitz Patrick story I remember hearing a couple

495
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Speaker 2: of years ago on a podcast saying when he went

496
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Speaker 2: to Northwestern. He thought he just got to play golf.

497
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Speaker 2: He had to go to school. You know, After like

498
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Speaker 2: the first quarter or first semester, he's like, I'm out

499
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Speaker 2: of here. I'm not going to I gave her to

500
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Speaker 2: swing the sticks. Well, speaking of everyone showing up, a

501
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Speaker 2: huge part of these elevated events, right is pooling all

502
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Speaker 2: the top players to generate the money because they are

503
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Speaker 2: what people want to watch. Right now, we can argue

504
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 2: about can't Lee where he's a needle move and we'll

505
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 2: get in him in a second. And obviously all these

506
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 2: guys showed up. Jordan Rod just won it, showed up

507
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 2: and took pride and like people were like, why you

508
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 2: why don't you quit? He's like, I'm not going to quit.

509
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Speaker 2: Jordan easily could have won the tournament, Zander, all these

510
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Speaker 2: guys and Rory, And as of right now, we haven't

511
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Speaker 2: heard anything. So I think it's fair to assume it's

512
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Speaker 2: not something you know, life threatening or someone sick or whatever.

513
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Speaker 2: It was just fatigue. I don't see there's any way

514
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Speaker 2: around it. And I get he spoke. He basically became

515
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Speaker 2: the pseudo commissioner, but it sure seemed like those quotes

516
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 2: the guys were like, what the hell, man.

517
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Speaker 4: So, first of all, I sort of want to reserve

518
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Speaker 4: judgment until at some point we hear from Rory McElroy.

519
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Speaker 4: I assume that'll be in a few weeks when they

520
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Speaker 4: get to Quail Hollow for the Wells Fargo Championship, because

521
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Speaker 4: you don't know what's going on, whether it's a family issue,

522
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Speaker 4: whether look, mental health is a big issue in today's society.

523
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Speaker 4: He may have just said I seriously needed a mental

524
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Speaker 4: health break after missing the cut at the Masters, and I.

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Speaker 2: Would the players, though, like Xander and was Rom spoke

526
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Speaker 2: out kind of like they did with I mean, they

527
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Speaker 2: know him pretty well.

528
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if they would have known that much.

529
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Speaker 4: But look that said, and again I started the preamble with,

530
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Speaker 4: you know, I'd like to hear from him. But it's

531
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Speaker 4: a really bad look. It's a really, really bad look

532
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Speaker 4: for a guy who is taking on a leadership role

533
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Speaker 4: with the PGA Tour, a guy who's helped construct this schedule,

534
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Speaker 4: a guy who's onboard for everything, a guy who knows

535
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Speaker 4: that you can skip one of these designated events, but

536
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Speaker 4: not more without penalty, skip the first one of the year.

537
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Speaker 4: Then goes and skips this one. If I'm another player,

538
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Speaker 4: if I'm John Rahm, especially who just won the Masters,

539
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Speaker 4: and is like, well, I kind of have to go

540
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Speaker 4: on into the commitment because I'm supposed to go play,

541
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Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, like Rory of all people,

542
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Speaker 4: is like, yeah, now I'm just gonna skip it. Boy,

543
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Speaker 4: I do not feel great about that. Again. I want

544
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Speaker 4: to hear what Rory has to say about it, but

545
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 4: it's a really really bad look on his behalf.

546
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And this is ultimately like in football, in basketball,

547
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 2: in baseball, there's just a pretty strict set the games

548
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 2: or the games you play, you show up. In golf,

549
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 2: it's always kind of been unique, right, It's like kind

550
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,239
Speaker 2: of pick your schedule, And that's why it was a

551
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Speaker 2: major change. And Rory, besides Phil and Tiger, is the

552
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Speaker 2: third richest guy, so it's like, you know, money, losing

553
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Speaker 2: three million dollars to him, money's all relative, not losing

554
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 2: sleepover it. So it's you just wonder, like in the future,

555
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 2: guys you are tired, or guys you're tired, and they

556
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:42,959
Speaker 2: might just like screw it.

557
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Speaker 4: You know.

558
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Speaker 2: That's why I do have a lot of respect for

559
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Speaker 2: Jordan and Rom Like you said, Rom just won the thing,

560
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 2: and Jordan was right there grinding his ass off, and

561
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Speaker 2: then he comes back and he almost wins the thing

562
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Speaker 2: the next week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't quite understand. I mean, Ory played

564
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Speaker 4: too fewer rounds than everybody else. Chance he went home

565
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 4: three or four days after the Masters was over. For him,

566
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Speaker 4: he didn't have to go play in that that crap

567
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 4: on Saturday. He was done in the better part of

568
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Speaker 4: the draw, even as he was done on Friday early afternoon.

569
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Speaker 4: Could have gotten home for four even five days until

570
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Speaker 4: he went to hilton Head. Again, I keep saying the

571
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 4: same thing over and over. I'd like to hear from

572
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Speaker 4: him and reserve judgment a little bit, But yeah, I

573
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Speaker 4: don't quite get it. I don't understand what his thought

574
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Speaker 4: process is. And again, I know you're rich, you got money,

575
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 4: you don't need more money. Money doesn't rule everything around you.

576
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 4: That said, you're Rory McElroy, and you're essentially saying I

577
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Speaker 4: don't want to play hilton Head and I'll play. I'll

578
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 4: pay three million dollars to not play golf this week

579
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Speaker 4: at hilton Head, which is like, that's that's a weird

580
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 4: take right there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the other big story. Listen, I'm a relatively

582
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 2: fast player, and you know, when I'm playing bad, it's

583
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 2: not a good thing because I get going extra fast.

584
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Speaker 2: That's why I have a lot of respect for the Kepka's,

585
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Speaker 2: the DJs who just haul ass and play at the

586
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Speaker 2: highest level. And even I'd say, you know better than me.

587
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Speaker 2: But like watching Tiger on TV, once he picked the spot,

588
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 2: he went right, or Phil like, it feels like Can't

589
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 2: Lay has jumped the shark on the whole thing right. Obviously,

590
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,239
Speaker 2: if you're in a weird spot, you got to take

591
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 2: some angles, you get a rules official. But it's you

592
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 2: hear these players once you pick the club, like what

593
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Speaker 2: are we doing? And the waggles and them stepping off,

594
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 2: and it's it's gotten pretty outrageous sober, and it feels

595
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Speaker 2: like you saw some of those shots of Fitzpatrick's caddy,

596
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Speaker 2: I mean playing with them we saw last year or

597
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Speaker 2: last week Hovlin walking. This has to be one of

598
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Speaker 2: the talking points of the players to each other, non

599
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 2: Patrick can't lay and Xander.

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Speaker 4: Right, yeah, no doubt. And so I have changed my

601
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Speaker 4: tune on this over the years. I used to tell people, look,

602
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 4: this is not your Sunday morning for some at the

603
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Speaker 4: local muni where you know you're a fourteen handicap, you're

604
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Speaker 4: looking at your put from all directions because you got

605
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 4: a three dollars NASA on the line. They're playing for

606
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 4: big money, they're playing for points, they're playing on TV.

607
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 4: This is their business. In fact, I like the fact

608
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Speaker 4: that guys take a little pride in it and they're

609
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Speaker 4: not just let me walk up to the ball and

610
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 4: hit it. They're taking their time with it. I've changed

611
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 4: my tune on that a little bit. This is an

612
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 4: entertainment product, and quite frankly, they're losing a big part

613
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Speaker 4: of the entertainment. And I didn't necessarily think so until

614
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Speaker 4: I started watching Major League Baseball games over the first

615
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Speaker 4: three or four weeks of the season, John, because I'm

616
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Speaker 4: a baseball fan, and quite frankly, I've been turned off

617
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 4: over the years, especially for a mid April Marlins Padres

618
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 4: game where in the top of the third inning it's

619
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Speaker 4: four to one and some guy steps out of the

620
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 4: box three times and the pitcher goes to the rosen

621
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Speaker 4: and the bat takes fifteen minutes, and it's like, what

622
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 4: are we doing? Like it just it doesn't matter that

623
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 4: much they've sped up those games, and for me as

624
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 4: a fan, my interest levels way up, the enjoyment level

625
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 4: his way up. And I think golf needs to take

626
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 4: a hard look at what baseball has done and say

627
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 4: we have to do the same thing. I don't know

628
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 4: that golf is losing people necessarily because of slow play,

629
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Speaker 4: but they're certainly not gaining fans. And I do think

630
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 4: that it just an overall sort of speeding up of

631
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 4: the entire process. And this is not to single out

632
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 4: can't Lay because I think he gets more of a

633
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 4: spotlight on him because he is very good, and he

634
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 4: is playing on TV more than others, and he is

635
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 4: in that spotlight. But look, it's all got to be quicker.

636
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Speaker 4: And I used to say, what's the difference if it's

637
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 4: five point fifteen for a three man group or four

638
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 4: forty five, what's the big deal? All of a sudden,

639
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 4: I look at baseball and I'm like, you know what,

640
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 4: it is a big deal. It's about pacing, it's about

641
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Speaker 4: keeping your interest level, and again, it's about being an

642
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 4: entertainment product. I think they've lost a big part of

643
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,959
Speaker 4: that entertainment product. I saw a lot of people on

644
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 4: social media this past week, after I was writing about

645
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 4: the pace of play, John say, you know what, I

646
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 4: gave up on the fifteenth all I just couldn't watch

647
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 4: it anymore. I couldn't do it. I couldn't invest my

648
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 4: time the way I wanted to do. And that's a

649
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 4: shame because it was a really good tournament. It was

650
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 4: a really good ending. And if people won't watch because

651
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 4: if guys like Patrick can't, they taken too long, something

652
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 4: needs to be done well.

653
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 2: Because of simple reality's one of the best players in

654
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 2: the world, so more often than not he's going to

655
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 2: be shown on TV a lot on Saturday and Sunday,

656
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: and this year he's consistently been in the mix now right,

657
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 2: so he's he's playing in major groups. You talk to

658
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 2: caddies people around the tour, like beside a penalty, right

659
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 2: or putting you on the clock, which seems that nothing

660
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 2: ever happens. Have you ever heard of a good idea

661
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 2: like you know, a clock? I mean, what could you

662
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: really do beside actually enforce penalties? And it feels like

663
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 2: a guy I can't y would then.

664
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Speaker 4: Snap, yeah, a shot clock is they've tried it in

665
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 4: European events. I don't know that that's necessarily the answer.

666
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 2: Because the guys that are looking at it, like the

667
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 2: quarterback right right right.

668
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 4: I don't even know how quite you do that. The

669
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 4: AJGA junior golf league that so many young kids play,

670
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 4: and they do essentially a soccer system, a yellow card

671
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 4: red card system. So you get one bad time, you

672
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 4: essentially get a warning, you get the yellow card, you

673
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 4: get a second bad time, you get the red card,

674
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 4: you get docked a penalty stroke. And so I do think, Look,

675
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 4: don't as in place. Unlike baseball. It's not like we

676
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 4: need to create new rules. All we have to do

677
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 4: is enforce the rules that are out there already, and

678
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 4: they don't enforce them. They've been there forever and they

679
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 4: don't enforce those rules. Again, I thought, before watching baseball games,

680
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 4: I'm like, come on, all right, maybe you give a

681
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 4: guy a one strike penalty for not being in the

682
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 4: batter's box when he's up in the bottom of the

683
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,720
Speaker 4: second inning. You're not gonna do that in the bottom

684
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 4: of the ninth with the bases loaded. And yet Major

685
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 4: League Baseball has done that. And what's happened is guys

686
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 4: know they better be in the box, and pitchers know

687
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 4: they better pitch on time or else they're gonna suffer

688
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 4: that penalty in a consequential situation. And so if Patrick

689
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 4: can't is playing the eighteenth goal and he's standing over

690
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 4: his shot and he's trying to figure out what to do,

691
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 4: and he's taken too long and he's tied for the

692
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 4: lead and he gets doctor stroke. Oh well, you know what,

693
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 4: you knew what to do, you knew what the time was,

694
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 4: and you didn't get it done in that time. And

695
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 4: so I've come around on that, like I said over

696
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 4: the last little while, that something needs to be done.

697
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 2: Well, you know, like when a you know, lobbyist. It

698
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 2: happens in Washington all the time. You know, you take

699
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 2: care of people so you don't get screwed. It feels

700
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 2: a little bit like why can't lay got on the pack? Right?

701
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 2: So you know you don't want any of that. And

702
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 2: he's gotta be one of the better players on the pack.

703
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 2: You know, you start controlling, you know, you know where

704
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 2: that thing's coming from.

705
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 4: Look, they need to get the players to buy into.

706
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 4: Look at how much the PJ Tour has done. We

707
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 4: talked about designated events already, PJ Tour has done so

708
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 4: much over the past year. And granted a lot of

709
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 4: this has been in retaliation of Live. It's been done

710
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 4: to keep up with Live, to win fans or at

711
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 4: least keep fans from going over to Live. But you're

712
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 4: marketing yourself as an entertainment product, and that's what you're doing.

713
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 4: You're trying to improve the fan experience. Well, if fans

714
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 4: are watching for five hours and fifteen minutes and they're

715
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 4: falling asleep in their chairs and they're not going out

716
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 4: to watch and they turn off their TVs, that's not

717
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 4: a good fan experience. You need to change that part

718
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 4: of it too. So it's not just about, hey, let's

719
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 4: create a schedule where the best players play against each

720
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 4: other more often during the year. If they're playing against

721
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 4: each other and it's taking way too long, it eliminates

722
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 4: that fan enjoyment that you're trying to create.

723
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 2: Anyway, it's unique because you're not you're on separate teams

724
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 2: basically as an individual, but y' all know each other,

725
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 2: especially you know, Speak has been on Ryder Cup teams

726
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 2: and Presidents Cups teams with them. But it gets to

727
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 2: the point, like you know, in all your years being around,

728
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 2: have you ever seen anyone snap like a hurry the

729
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 2: fuck up, or let's go. I mean, it's a tough

730
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 2: spot for a caddy, but I mean you can tell

731
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 2: the caddies get really frustrated.

732
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, a little bit over the years, and certainly, look,

733
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 4: it's pretty rare. They're guys who maybe internally and not externally,

734
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 4: they're like, hey, hurry up, let's go. We heard Brooks

735
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 4: Koepka talk about it during the Masters. They were playing

736
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 4: in the final group right behind Patrick Cantlane is like,

737
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,439
Speaker 4: John Rohm went to the bathroom seven times. We never

738
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 4: fell out of place. Those are two pretty quick players.

739
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 4: Patrick Cantlan when asked about it, it's like, yeah, well

740
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 4: you know, we were waiting on some tea boxes too.

741
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 4: I'm like, come on, man, I always John, I always

742
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 4: like it to traffic. He's like yes, people, and you go,

743
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 4: hey do you like traffic? Nah? Hate traffic. Traffic's the worst.

744
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 4: Are you Are you a fast driver? And do you

745
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 4: always you know, make sure you don't you know, stop

746
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 4: if there's a guy change a tire on the side

747
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 4: the way, yup, yup, that's me. You know I go fast. Well,

748
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 4: there's cause of the traffic. Nobody thinks they're the culprit

749
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,760
Speaker 4: and everyone hates it. Let's do something about it. Same

750
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 4: thing in golf. No one thinks they're the culprit on

751
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 4: slow play, and yet they're playing slowly. Somebody's got to

752
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 4: be to blame.

753
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,919
Speaker 2: Hey, before we get out of here, Live Australia. Any

754
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 2: thoughts this week? Zero Elly Campsmith this week was that

755
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: it'd be hard not to you know, I saw Leshman

756
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 2: was like thirty to one. I was like, you know,

757
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 2: just last time, I bet on Bryce and d Chambeau

758
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 2: might be my last live bed of all time.

759
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 4: So I yeah, that's that's the one. To burn the

760
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 4: ticket and get out of there.

761
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 2: Did you hear anything when you were at Augusta about

762
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 2: some buzz about Greg Norman coming down the home stretch

763
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 2: and run and live. That seems like something out there

764
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 2: in the ether that.

765
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 4: No. All I've heard is that some players may not

766
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 4: be as happy with him as as they think or

767
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 4: as Greg thinks they are. I'm sorry to hurt here.

768
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 4: Also some some whispers that, like you know, Harold Varner

769
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 4: the Third saying like give it up, guys. You guys

770
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 4: are talking about like, hey, we're gonna go grow the

771
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 4: game around the world. We're doing this because they're paying

772
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 4: us a lot of money. Yeah, so this whole like

773
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 4: live solidarity thing, like hey guys, we're gonna go change

774
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 4: the world. We're doing this together and we're all buddies

775
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 4: and teammates and partners in this thing. That's a little overblown. Look,

776
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 4: not everybody on the PGA tour sees the eye to

777
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 4: eye on all the issues, and I think we're starting

778
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 4: to learn that not everybody out lives sees eye to

779
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 4: eye on everything as well, which is I think an

780
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 4: interesting dynamic in itself.

781
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 2: Well, so we'll have a good week. Enjoy the links.

782
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 2: If you're gonna get ot there and play, hang out

783
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 2: with your family, do whatever you do and have a

784
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 2: good one. Talk to you soon.

785
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 4: Thanks buddy, Appreciate it. And yeah, I'll have a lot

786
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 4: of fun betting on a three to one favorite this week.

787
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 2: Buckle up, okayles bang out. A couple questions at Golo

788
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 2: Pod Out at Golo Pod is the Instagram fire in

789
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 2: those dms? We're out of them. I need you guys

790
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 2: firing in there at Golo Pod. Fire in there. Another

791
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,479
Speaker 2: question for the Golo mailbang, So we know the big

792
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 2: time power agents in football, baseball, and basketball, rosenhaus Rich,

793
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 2: Paul France. Who are the power agents in golf? I

794
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 2: have to believe that the big time dudes are pretty

795
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 2: much represented by the same two or three agents all

796
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: pro sports. Scott boris my bad confused with Todd Franz

797
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,479
Speaker 2: Dak's agents. Well, if you're Dax agent, you're a pretty

798
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 2: big agent as well. I would say that for a

799
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 2: long time Steinberg just because he had Tiger Woods right

800
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 2: So Mark Steinberg, who's basically tiger woods right hand man,

801
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 2: has represented him for who knows a long long time.

802
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 2: I think he went independent, left CIA a long you know,

803
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 2: twenty years ago, and with Tiger, I would say no

804
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 2: longer being the lead dog on the tour anymore. You

805
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 2: know Excel who they represent? You know, basketball, definitely, Baseball

806
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 2: and football players. I think has a lot of golfers

807
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 2: justin Thomas think. I'm pretty sure Jordan, Spieth, Fitzpatrick. I

808
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 2: don't know who the individual agent is. That is a

809
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 2: pretty good question for Syllable. I don't have the answers

810
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 2: to this, but I'm with you. I would be stunned

811
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 2: if they're really not three or for guys that represent

812
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: the majority of players, and I would say, golf, you know,

813
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 2: pretty good life. To be an agent in the NFL,

814
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 2: it's kind of hard because you're constantly dealing with all

815
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 2: the coaches mad at me. All were underpaid. Ah, I'm injured,

816
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 2: Oh I got in trouble. How many golf guys like

817
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 2: I'm not saying we all got our own dramas, but

818
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 2: relative to basketball, football, baseball feels like it'd be easier,

819
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 2: you know, just from an outside perspective, it feels like

820
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: it would be a lot easier. Currently watching the RBC

821
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 2: Heritage rom and especially speak clearly care about playing well.

822
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 2: I was just wondering what you think the differences in

823
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 2: preparation and effort in this event versus Major. It's not

824
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 2: like they aren't trying to win. They clearly care. So

825
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 2: what is really the difference. Well, I don't think there

826
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 2: really is a difference, because they just spent a month

827
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 2: getting dialed in to get ready for the Masters, so

828
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 2: their preparation to play high level tournament golf is already

829
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 2: in full go they've played, especially those guys the elevated events.

830
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 2: The players like, these guys have been pretty dialed now

831
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 2: for a long long time. So I back to like TPC,

832
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: Scott Sale, the waste management, I don't know if much changed.

833
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 2: The only thing they had to manage was their energy.

834
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: But in terms of their golf, in terms of their

835
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 2: golf swing, in terms of the way they're playing, I

836
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 2: think they just probably relaxed on Monday, played the pro

837
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 2: am Wednesday, maybe some light practice Tuesday, and just let

838
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 2: a rip. I mean, I don't think the preparation last

839
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 2: week it was clearly I would imagine much lighter on

840
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 2: Monday and probably even Tuesday. But I think it's just

841
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 2: keeping your swing dialed. Fitzpatrick played well at the Masters,

842
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: Canley was playing well at the Masters. Rob just kind

843
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 2: of ran out of juice. Speed's playing obviously well. Xander's

844
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: been playing well. So I think the preparation it is

845
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 2: just lighter. I approach it more like a Thursday game

846
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 2: in football, just but there's still a lot of money

847
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 2: on the line, and once you start playing, you just

848
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 2: turn into a competitor. So yeah, I have a lot

849
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 2: of respect for those guys playing their ass off. I

850
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 2: am playing the Dallas Cowboys golf course in a few

851
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 2: weeks and I'm wondering if I should walk or ride

852
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 2: in a cart. It's apparently a very nice course, and

853
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Speaker 2: I usually only play local munies. Should I walk to

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00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 2: really get a full appreciation of the course or should

855
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 2: I ride and have a more luxurious laid back on

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00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 2: the track. My handicap is between a twelve and fifteen. Thanks.

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00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 2: This is a no brainer answer for me. I was

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00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 2: never the biggest Nick Foldo guy on television as the analyst,

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00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 2: but I remember watching a YouTube special. It might have

860
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 2: been even a television special before like The Masters or

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00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: I can't remember exactly what it was, but he brought

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00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 2: up a great point. You get a different feel for

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00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 2: golf course on your feet. Now, obviously he has someone

864
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 2: carrying his bag, but get a push cart. I listen

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Speaker 2: every the top courses I've ever played in my life.

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Speaker 2: Olympic Club, Cow Club in the Bay Area, I would say,

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Speaker 2: what's an LACC where the US Open is? Or definitely

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Speaker 2: I played at Monterey Peninsula Country Club, but I rode

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Speaker 2: in a cart. But I would say Olympic Club and LACC.

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Speaker 2: I walked and it was fucking awesome. So if I

871
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 2: ever played Pebble Beach, I would one percent walk. Now,

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Speaker 2: pushcart I'm cool with, but I think walking if you're

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Speaker 2: playing a nice course. If you're playing a venue, I

874
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 2: walked TPC Scottsdale most days, people always like, what are

875
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Speaker 2: you doing? I'm like, come out here to get cardio, man,

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Speaker 2: this is I'm not playing on the PGA Tour. I

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Speaker 2: like walking the course now. I like it helps me

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Speaker 2: stay in shape. I enjoy walking.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying I won't ride if I'm hanging out

881
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 2: having beers whatever. Like I'm not opposed to carts, but

882
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 2: you're playing a spec course. If walking is an option,

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Speaker 2: I think it's a no brainer. I always think it's

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Speaker 2: the move. You ever play, like a major style course,

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Speaker 2: A lot of them make you walk right, like you're

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Speaker 2: not taking a cart, not like we're ever playing Augusta.

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Speaker 2: But if you ever do, you're like, you're you're walking right.

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00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 2: You play Olympic Club, you're walking. When I play with

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Speaker 2: some guys, I know here at mesa country club, you

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Speaker 2: walk and it's awesome. I really enjoy it. So I

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00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 2: always recommend walking. I think follow those right. There's an

892
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Speaker 2: essence of golf if you're truly taking it in. Now,

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00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 2: if it's your own country club or Muni that you

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00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 2: play all the time, then who cares? But like you're

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Speaker 2: playing a special course something. I don't know what the

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Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys Golf Course is. Imagine it doesn't suck. Say

897
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 2: hello to Jerry and enjoy yourself. Walk, bring cocktail with you.

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Speaker 2: Have a good one, fire in those dms at Golo Pod,

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Speaker 2: at Golo Pod, have a good week, Zerik Championship, whatever.

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Speaker 2: But we got the PGA Championship right around the corner,

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Speaker 2: So let's dial back in audios.