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Speaker 1: We will never forget or forgive the Biden administration for

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Speaker 1: utter shamefulness from this administration. Recently, some of the gold

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Speaker 1: listen to Cheryl Rex. She is a gold Star mother.

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Speaker 1: She lost her son, Dylan Morola. He was a Marine

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Speaker 2: When Joe Biden, our elected president, entered the room. When

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Speaker 2: he approached me, his words to me were, my wife, Jill,

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Speaker 2: well and brought him home in a five draped coffin.

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Speaker 2: My heart started beating faster and I started shaking, knowing

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Speaker 2: I felt. A little over twenty four hours and learning

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Speaker 2: of my son's death. After this encounter, I have never

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Speaker 2: had any personal correspondence, nor has my son been honored

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Speaker 2: or his name spoken by this commander in chief or

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Speaker 1: I was ryl Rex. We're gonna hear from her in

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate you taking the time to come on

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Speaker 1: happened with the withdrawal from Afghanistan.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Lisa, Thank you for having me join.

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Speaker 1: Before we get started, tell us about Dylan.

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Speaker 2: Dylan was amazing, very kind hearted to everybody, always smiling,

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Speaker 1: It sounds like someone who really made an impact in

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Speaker 2: Dylan was in Afghanistan only for a little less than

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Speaker 1: So he went specifically for the withdrawal.

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Speaker 2: Correct Dylan and his battalion were actually deployed to Jordan

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Speaker 2: at the time when the withdrawal process was happening so quickly.

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Speaker 2: When it turned from the withdrawal too an evacuation is

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Speaker 1: Why did he decide to join the military? You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he was very proud of having done that.

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Speaker 2: We have a long history of family that has been

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Speaker 1: So it's just something he grew up with and always

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Speaker 2: Actually had woken up that morning to an alert on

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Speaker 2: I immediately started to call him. I was calling him

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Speaker 2: At first, you're kind of shocked, and then it just

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Speaker 2: We were all awaiting this plane arrival to go on

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Speaker 2: We awaited in this room for a couple of hours,

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Speaker 2: He never once mentioned my son's name. He didn't acknowledge

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Speaker 1: It's almost as if he's trying to use his son's

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Speaker 2: It was and after the process, I did realize people

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Speaker 1: Did you see him looking at his watch as reported?

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Speaker 2: I did so. They had us outside to a witness

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just incredibly disrespectful to not give the

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Speaker 2: On top of that, we had been waiting for a

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like they've been this administration has been

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Speaker 2: I personally have not received a phone call, an email,

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Speaker 2: And that was the only thing I've ever received from him,

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Speaker 1: What do you want people to know about the way

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Speaker 2: I believe if you're hiding something and not telling the truth,

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Speaker 2: what was truly happening. Our whole situation got locked into

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine being a parent and watching the subsequent

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Speaker 1: I was frustrated with the lack of answers, him continuously

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Speaker 2: It's very heartbreaking, and not just for our situation, but

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Speaker 1: And it was also frustrating. You know, not only did

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Speaker 1: I would assume it's because this administration doesn't want to

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Speaker 2: Right, if I made the decision to go down the street,

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Speaker 2: Why do these people think that they're above the law

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Speaker 1: What was it like to testify before Congress and to

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Speaker 2: Leading up to it, I honestly felt, here's our chance

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Speaker 2: a very, very small beginning of it. I got up there,

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Speaker 1: You did a great job. You should be very proud

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Speaker 1: that you honored your son with that, What else would

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Speaker 2: I just want people to know that my son did

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Speaker 2: want my son's story to be based on politics, even

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Speaker 2: though those have chosen to make it politics. This basically

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Speaker 1: Well, I think we can all agree with that we

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Speaker 1: honor your son, and sure, how can people help out?

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Speaker 1: You know, how can people help get answers? You know

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Speaker 1: what can we do.

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Speaker 2: At this point? I guess what I've been told, keep

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Speaker 2: calling your congress members. We need to keep the I

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Speaker 2: of what was really happening in Afghanistan, not what they

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Speaker 2: want you to believe on National TV. That's all been

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Speaker 2: and demand answers.

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Speaker 1: Well. I hope you're testimony, along with others, helps encourage

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Speaker 1: that to happen and helps relight a fire underneath members

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Speaker 1: of Congress to seek and get those answers for you

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Speaker 1: and the other families. Cheryl, I really appreciate you taking

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Speaker 2: I greatly appreciate you living as me personally have a voice.

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Speaker 2: I think it's important that people learn the truth at

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Speaker 1: That was Cheryl Rex, mother of the following Marine Lance

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Speaker 1: Corporal Dylan Marola, appreciate her joining the show. I can't

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Speaker 1: imagine how hard that is for her to have to

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Speaker 1: What a shameful time in American history. I want to

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Speaker 1: thank you guys at home for listening every Monday and Thursday,

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Speaker 1: but you can listen throughout the week. I want to

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Speaker 1: think John Cassio, my producer, for putting the show together.

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Speaker 1: Till next time,