WEBVTT - CLASSIC: Could Sea Monsters/Serpents Still Exist?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, friends and neighbors, fellow conspiracy realist, oh hooy sailors.

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<v Speaker 1>We have investigated at length the idea of a continuing

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<v Speaker 1>fascination cryptids.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think we were all.

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<v Speaker 1>We were all just unanimously astounded by the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>there could have been large creatures out there beneath the

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<v Speaker 1>waves in recent periods of history, recent enough that human

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<v Speaker 1>beings may have run into them. Guys, I spent a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of time looking out over the ocean in one

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<v Speaker 1>of our previous maritime adventures. I saw some usual stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>but I didn't see a sea serpent.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you never seen one? Hope to never do, because

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<v Speaker 2>that is one of my all time night terrors. I

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<v Speaker 2>think I've mentioned being present in a giant body of

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<v Speaker 2>water with a sea serpent lurking just beneath the waves.

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<v Speaker 2>Even if it's not one that's gonna eat me, Just

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<v Speaker 2>the large underwater dwelling creatures freak me out, Dude.

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<v Speaker 3>I often stand astride the ships and look out and

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<v Speaker 3>imagine Jason Statham when that megalodon attacked to I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know mega seen the movie the movie whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 2>The first meg is a lot of fun. I think

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<v Speaker 2>the second one diminishing returns. But uh, I watched the

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<v Speaker 2>first one's good plane movie.

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<v Speaker 4>Do check it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 4>The point is there were like sea serpents and all

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<v Speaker 4>kinds of craziness out there in the ocean. Giant sharks

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<v Speaker 4>like that. They there have been those, but could there

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<v Speaker 4>be one or some or a bunch of them remaining?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, far beyond our imaginings, Dear Horatio.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we get into.

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<v Speaker 1>This classic episode, we also, of course want to shout

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<v Speaker 1>out folks like the Swedish musician Matthias Krantz, who this

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<v Speaker 1>is true story, guys taught an octopus to play piano. Ah,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't wait, Oh my gosh, Please tell us weird

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<v Speaker 1>stuff you've seen in the oceans. This is our classic episode.

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<v Speaker 5>From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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<v Speaker 5>riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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<v Speaker 4>Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,

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<v Speaker 4>my name is Noah.

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<v Speaker 1>They call me Ben. We are joined as always with

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<v Speaker 1>our super producer Paul. Mission control decands, most importantly, you

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<v Speaker 1>are you, You are here, and that makes this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>They don't want you to know. Longtime listeners or recent

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<v Speaker 1>listeners welcome. You'll notice that we are continuing a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a maritime trend today. We didn't plan this, It

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<v Speaker 1>just happened. We're tackling one of the oldest oceanic questions

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<v Speaker 1>in human existence. For thousands and thousands of years, human

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<v Speaker 1>beings have both feared and worshiped the ocean, as well as,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, the things believed to live within it. So

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<v Speaker 1>fast forward to the current day. Good for us human species.

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<v Speaker 1>We have learned a great deal about the ocean over

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<v Speaker 1>the past several millennia, and we still rely on it

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<v Speaker 1>for food. Nowadays we can pretty often travel across it safely,

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<v Speaker 1>but we have by no means conquered the ocean. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>we know more about the Moon right now than we

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<v Speaker 1>do about Earth's oceans. The briny deep, in short, is

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<v Speaker 1>still flooded with mysteries. That was not an intentional pun.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the point. Today's question, is it possible that

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<v Speaker 1>see serpents, the legendary sea monsters of old, still exist today.

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<v Speaker 1>To answer this question, we have to learn what little

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<v Speaker 1>we do know about the ocean already. So here are the.

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<v Speaker 4>Facts and Just to be clear, when we're talking about

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<v Speaker 4>the ocean and oceans, we really mean the oceans, the seas.

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<v Speaker 4>The place is where there's briny water, right where it's

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<v Speaker 4>very deep. That's what we're referring to today. So anywhere

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<v Speaker 4>in the world, not just in one particular place.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, So not just the Pacific, not just maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the Indian Ocean, but the whole shebang, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like literally all of the water, or as

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<v Speaker 1>we'll come to find out, ninety seven percent of all

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<v Speaker 1>the water. So we've often heard people say things like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we know less about the ocean than we

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<v Speaker 1>do about outer space. That's a little misleading, but we

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<v Speaker 1>definitely do know more about Earth's moon than we do

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<v Speaker 1>about Earth's oceans. I mean, when you think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers get weird if you believe the official stories.

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<v Speaker 1>That's for a different episode. We've sent twelve people to

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<v Speaker 1>the moon since about nineteen sixty nine, yet in comparison,

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<v Speaker 1>we've only sent three people to the deepest part of

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<v Speaker 1>the ocean, one of them being James Cameron, who makes

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<v Speaker 1>an appearance in here. As a matter of fact, the

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<v Speaker 1>old Hollywood legend is that James Cameron mainly wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>do Titanic as a way of getting support for his

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<v Speaker 1>trip to the Marianas.

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<v Speaker 4>Trench, which is very cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he had a cute little like pod thing that

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<v Speaker 2>he went down in, right, like a kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>future you look in under the c mini sub with

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<v Speaker 2>like grabberclaw arms or maybe i'm hyperbolyzing here.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, that's a pretty good description. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's the only way to get down there. And

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<v Speaker 1>those people who have gone to the deepest part of

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<v Speaker 1>the ocean, again, we're only counting the people who came back.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's completely plausible that a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>died and their bodies eventually drifted to some very deep

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<v Speaker 1>part of the seafloor.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and the ones that did come back, we're all

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<v Speaker 2>completely mad.

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<v Speaker 1>There we go nice setup that. Yeah, yeah, we know

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<v Speaker 1>that there. Despite the fact that there have only been

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<v Speaker 1>a very very small amount of people who went to

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<v Speaker 1>what we call the deepest part of the ocean, we

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<v Speaker 1>know that there is a lot, a lot down there.

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<v Speaker 1>The ocean takes up about seventy one percent of Earth's surface,

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<v Speaker 1>and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, whose research we

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<v Speaker 1>lean on a lot. In this episode, they note that

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<v Speaker 1>about ninety five percent of that oceanic surface the seafloor.

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<v Speaker 1>They call it unexplored, And it depends on what you

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<v Speaker 1>mean by explored, but I think it's a fair way

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<v Speaker 1>to look at it, especially when we learn more about

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<v Speaker 1>the stats and geography.

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<v Speaker 4>Of the ocean.

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<v Speaker 2>Quick question, guys, do you think they worked awkwards from

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<v Speaker 2>that acronym to like what words we're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>in it? You know, because Noah and Noah's Ark and

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<v Speaker 2>all that, and they're like, Okay, we got to make

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<v Speaker 2>this Noah thing work. It's such a good image.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought about that, but I didn't. I didn't nail

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<v Speaker 1>down the story because it would be my speculation. It

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<v Speaker 1>just it feels like if they're trying to purposefully spell Noah,

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<v Speaker 1>then they would have done a better job. There's so

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<v Speaker 1>many things that begin with H.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, some mysteries are just better left unsolved. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>true what we loosely describe as the ocean in swishy

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<v Speaker 2>quotation fingers has a volume of around one point three

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<v Speaker 2>three two a billion cubic kilometers. I say that doubly

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<v Speaker 2>because the word is spelled out several times in the

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<v Speaker 2>research materials I'm looking at just to drive home. That's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of cubic kilometers, my friends, And that works

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<v Speaker 2>out to be about three hundred and fifty two quintillion

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<v Speaker 2>gallons of water. That's just like a completely unfathomable number

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<v Speaker 2>right there in my mind at least. And that's ninety

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<v Speaker 2>seven percent of the water on the entire planet. Another

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<v Speaker 2>two percent is locked up in glaciers and ice caps,

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<v Speaker 2>and a tiny part is in water vapor floating through

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<v Speaker 2>the atmosphere, and an even tinier part is inside of us. All. Oh, man,

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<v Speaker 2>it was there all along, it was there all along,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the majority of the human body actually, about up

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<v Speaker 1>to sixty percent of you specifically you, if you're human

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<v Speaker 1>and listening to this, about sixty percent of your body

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<v Speaker 1>is water.

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<v Speaker 4>We are water beings on a water planet, gentlemen. And uh.

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<v Speaker 4>And when we're talking about, you know, the actual volume

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<v Speaker 4>of the oceans, we're talking about ninety five percent of

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<v Speaker 4>the ocean floor quote unquote unexplored, right, because we're talking

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<v Speaker 4>about actually going and exploring there the way you would

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<v Speaker 4>the moon or another place. It's crazy to imagine that

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<v Speaker 4>that's the floor part. And then there's all that volume

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<v Speaker 4>of water with all that depth, and think about attempting

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<v Speaker 4>to explore somehow the surface area at every depth that

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<v Speaker 4>you possibly can, and it just feels like it would

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<v Speaker 4>be impossible for humans to do. Because the average depth

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<v Speaker 4>of the ocean is three thousand, seven hundred and ninety

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<v Speaker 4>five meters or a little over twelve four hundred and

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<v Speaker 4>fifty feet. And just like the Earth's surface, life is

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<v Speaker 4>not distributed evenly across the ocean, right. You don't just

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<v Speaker 4>have whales every x meters or something, or fish every

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<v Speaker 4>x centimeters whatever it would be. They could be anywhere

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<v Speaker 4>within that depth.

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<v Speaker 1>Just for comparison there, when we're talking about the average

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<v Speaker 1>depth of the world's oceans, consider let's see, Matt, the

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<v Speaker 1>number you gave us is average depth of three thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred and ninety five meters or a little north

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<v Speaker 1>of twelve thousand, four and fifty feet. The current tallest

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<v Speaker 1>tallest building tall skyscraper in the world, the Burj Khalifa,

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<v Speaker 1>is two thousand, seven hundred and sixteen and a half feet,

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<v Speaker 1>so tiny, tiny, tiny in comparison to not the deepest

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<v Speaker 1>part of the ocean.

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<v Speaker 2>But just the global average.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a big place. We have quote unquote mapped

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<v Speaker 1>the ocean floor. Good job for our species, but we

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<v Speaker 1>did it at a really really low resolution. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to say we cut some corners, because again it's

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<v Speaker 1>a very big place. But if you look at the

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<v Speaker 1>overall mapping of the ocean floor and you take all

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<v Speaker 1>of the scientific progress that every single civilization is made

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<v Speaker 1>up to, now, the most of that ocean floor mapping

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<v Speaker 1>has a solution of five kilometers or three miles. That

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<v Speaker 1>means that if something is so ridiculous, But that means

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<v Speaker 1>that if something is smaller than three miles big, then

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<v Speaker 1>we could totally miss it. So that's like that's the

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<v Speaker 1>threshold for size. So just to set up our question

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<v Speaker 1>or address our question a little more here, if a

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<v Speaker 1>sea monster existed and there was a breeding population and

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<v Speaker 1>they were less than three miles big, like not even long,

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<v Speaker 1>they were just big. If they were less than three

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<v Speaker 1>miles big, then it's possible that we could have missed them.

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<v Speaker 4>Think about all the crashed extraterrestrial craft that could be

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<v Speaker 4>down there. We'd have no idea they're not three miles long.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, maybe, Matt, are you proposing aquatic extraterrestrials.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, USO is my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, I don't even know how to start

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<v Speaker 2>wrapping my head around that idea, but probably a discussion

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<v Speaker 2>for another day.

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<v Speaker 4>Check out our episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we have a previous episode on these usos, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe we should revisit that one because

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<v Speaker 1>there's some new information I found on that.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, clearly I should revisit that one because I

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<v Speaker 2>do not recall its existence at all.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's a you're right, Noel, that's an episode maybe

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<v Speaker 1>for another day, which you can find now wherever you

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<v Speaker 1>get your favorite podcasts. So this mapping, it's something that

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<v Speaker 1>can be misleading. I think when you first hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like saying radio telescope or radio telescope

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<v Speaker 1>gives you information about space, but it doesn't necessarily give

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<v Speaker 1>you a visual picture. And this ocean floor mapping doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily give us what you would think of as a

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<v Speaker 1>visual picture. The job is accomplished using radar. It measures

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<v Speaker 1>the c surface, so it gives us this kind of

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<v Speaker 1>rough topography, the idea of where the bumps and the

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<v Speaker 1>dips occur. And that's pretty cool, right, But that means

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<v Speaker 1>that the maps of the ocean floor still are not

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<v Speaker 1>detailed as detailed as some of the maps of planets

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<v Speaker 1>in our Solar system, which is insane. We know a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about Mars, if this holds true, we know

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about more about the surface of Mars

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<v Speaker 1>than we do about the surface of the ocean. Nuts.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So just for like a you know, audio visual aid,

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<v Speaker 2>let's just talk a little bit about the layout. So,

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<v Speaker 2>just like the surface of the globe, the subterranean globe,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess we could call it, is divided into different

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<v Speaker 2>zones or regions. Each one has their own unique ecosystem,

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<v Speaker 2>specific creatures that are native to each of these areas,

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<v Speaker 2>adapted to live in these particular conditions. Of these zones

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<v Speaker 2>in the ocean, there are five, and we'll start from

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<v Speaker 2>closest to the surface and dive down. I'll start with

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<v Speaker 2>this one, because it's really fun to say, the epipilogic

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<v Speaker 2>or sunlight zone, and that ranges from the surface of

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<v Speaker 2>the water to six hundred and fifty six feet below.

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<v Speaker 2>It gets plenty of light, plenty of heat, and of

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<v Speaker 2>course all of those things decrease as you head further down.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is where all the cute little babies live

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<v Speaker 2>the fun you know, cute kind of finding nemo esque

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<v Speaker 2>figures of the sea, a lot of oceanic life that

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<v Speaker 2>humans actually interact with. Sure, and sure they're cute in

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<v Speaker 2>their own way, let's be nice. But also like coral

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<v Speaker 2>reefs and all these amazing built up layers of coral

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<v Speaker 2>and it's very much like think of it as like

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<v Speaker 2>the metro area of the sea. You know, this is

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<v Speaker 2>where like like the Tokyo or the New York City

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, the Atlanta nice.

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<v Speaker 4>And then you go down a little bit further, you

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<v Speaker 4>get to the twilight zone or the mesopelagic zone. It's

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<v Speaker 4>between six hundred and fifty six feet and three thousand,

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<v Speaker 4>two hundred and eighty one feet. There's still a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of stuff living in this area, but stuff's getting a

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<v Speaker 4>little different, little little weirder. Like wolf eels. Sure, sure

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<v Speaker 4>you're familiar with those wolf eels. You can hear them

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<v Speaker 4>howling in the seas no matter where you are. Swordfish scary,

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<v Speaker 4>terrifying creatures that you can hunt for fish for them,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's a difficult process. The light at this point

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<v Speaker 4>as you're going down is dying. Sunlight is getting fainter

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<v Speaker 4>and fainter as you submerge.

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<v Speaker 2>If you mapped all this on a chart, you could

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<v Speaker 2>definitely correlate depth with weirdness. Just putting that out there

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<v Speaker 2>real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to point out for anyone who is hearing

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<v Speaker 1>of wolf eels for the first time, please do yourself

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<v Speaker 1>with favor use your browser of choice to check out

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<v Speaker 1>some images of wolf eels. They do not look like

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<v Speaker 1>what you might assume a wolf or an eel.

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<v Speaker 2>Looks like I.

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<v Speaker 1>Had to put them in there, and yeah, their life

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<v Speaker 1>is getting weird with.

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<v Speaker 4>It, and you can't actually hear them howling. I apologize

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<v Speaker 4>those Jill, Well, we.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know, we don't know, we don't know. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>continue this journey into the murk. Now we're stepping into

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<v Speaker 1>the midnight zone. To bastardize the phrase from that song,

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<v Speaker 1>we're at the bath of Pelagic zone between three thy

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and eighty one feet to twelve one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty four feet. This part of the ocean is

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<v Speaker 1>like that old line from Method Man, it's cold world.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to bring your own heat. This zone is

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<v Speaker 1>largely dark. This is where you start to see some

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<v Speaker 1>sea creatures emitting their own light through phosphorescence. It's also

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<v Speaker 1>like that Queen Song. Doat are under pressure? The pressure

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<v Speaker 1>in the zone reaches almost six thousand pounds per square inch,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's just because of what you alluded to earlier, Matt.

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<v Speaker 1>There is so much water on top of you here.

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<v Speaker 1>If you live in this area and then next to

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<v Speaker 1>this we would our next step should we continue? James

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<v Speaker 1>Cameron eskiing down into the depths is what I think

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<v Speaker 1>personally is the coolest zone.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it cool as ice? Ben? Sort of like that

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<v Speaker 2>Queen Song was repurposed to be.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very cold. It's not quite freezing because the water

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<v Speaker 1>is still liquid, but it's very very cold.

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<v Speaker 4>You're gonna have to convince me that it's cooler than

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<v Speaker 4>high pressure bioluminescence. But let's do this right.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is the abysso paleogic zone. Did I get

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<v Speaker 2>there right? I think I got it pretty close. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's between thirteen one hundred and twenty four feet and

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen thousand, six hundred and eighty six feet. And as

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<v Speaker 2>the aforementioned Vanilla ice reference implies, this is a very

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<v Speaker 2>very very cold part of the deep sea with no

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<v Speaker 2>natural light over seventy five percent of the ocean floor

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<v Speaker 2>is in this zone. So this is essentially like, for

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<v Speaker 2>all intents and purposes, the bottom.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically, yeah, loosely speaking, this is this is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things I thought about a lot in younger days.

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<v Speaker 1>I always thought, where's the bottom of the continents? You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? Where can you walk? Like if

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<v Speaker 1>you could walk on the ocean floor and you could see, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's where the floor has kind of a corner and

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<v Speaker 1>the wall there that's well, that's you know North America

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<v Speaker 1>or that's Australia. You would find it in the abyssopologic zone.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's the place from which sprang the continents. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's still not the bottom. It's just most of the bottom,

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<v Speaker 1>right because just like the non water covered surface of

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<v Speaker 1>the planet, there are peaks, there are valleys in the ocean.

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<v Speaker 1>We call these trenches.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, the hatel Pelagic zone that lies down way way

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<v Speaker 4>down nineteen thousand, six hundred and eighty six feet to

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<v Speaker 4>thirty six thousand, one hundred feet. Now imagine that, what

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<v Speaker 4>do we say the average was around twelve thousand, thirteen

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<v Speaker 4>thousand feet.

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<v Speaker 1>That's correct, twelve four hundred and fifty feet.

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<v Speaker 4>So now we're way way down there, and the pressure

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<v Speaker 4>in these areas is insane. It's more than eleven thousand,

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<v Speaker 4>three hundred and eighteen tons per square meter. Or essentially,

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<v Speaker 4>think about this the equivalent of one person trying to

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<v Speaker 4>support the weight of fifty giant jumbo jets. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>there's we all know somebody who can bench press one

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<v Speaker 4>jumbo jet, but imagine doing fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's impossible. It's you know, it calls to mind

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<v Speaker 1>the old mythological figure of Atlas holding the world atop

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<v Speaker 1>his shoulders, and mythology plays a huge role in today's

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<v Speaker 1>episode as well. The actual depth here gets tricky because

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<v Speaker 1>it depends on, you know, the trenches or the valleys

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<v Speaker 1>in the area. Of course, the Marianas Trench, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the deepest area of the ocean to ever be explored

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<v Speaker 1>by humans, sits at we would it's almost it's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five seven and ninety seven feet deep, but that

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<v Speaker 1>might not be the entire story, because again we don't

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<v Speaker 1>there's a ton of stuff we don't know about the ocean.

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<v Speaker 1>Just for comparison, like we did with Burj Khalifa, the

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<v Speaker 1>tallest mountain in the world, on the on Earth's dry

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<v Speaker 1>surface is Mount Everest that stands at twenty nine and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six feet. So this means that the deepest ocean trench,

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<v Speaker 1>as far as we know, is deeper than the tallest

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<v Speaker 1>mountain on this planet is high. There's even with scale comparisons,

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<v Speaker 1>this quickly becomes mind boggling. We're just telling you this

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<v Speaker 1>to give you the map, the lay of the land.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we have to talk about the things that live

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<v Speaker 1>within this strange, strange world. Estimates show that somewhere between

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<v Speaker 1>fifty to eighty percent of all life on Earth is

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<v Speaker 1>found under the ocean.

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<v Speaker 4>And we'll tell you about that life right after a

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<v Speaker 1>many of us had adventures, perhaps some of us are

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<v Speaker 1>on the ocean right now, and you're probably wondering, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>fifty to eighty percent, that's a hell of a range.

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<v Speaker 1>Hasn't somebody done any kind of more robust research on this?

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<v Speaker 4>They were probably also thinking, wow, should I really be

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<v Speaker 4>out right now? Especially? I mean I am on the

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<v Speaker 4>ocean kind of isolated, but still, but yes, Ben, I mean, really,

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<v Speaker 4>we keep talking about this is just given the sheer

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<v Speaker 4>size of the oceans of the seas what we're talking

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<v Speaker 4>about here, it's impossible to know exactly how many different

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<v Speaker 4>species live out there and all the different types of species,

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<v Speaker 4>right and humans. The scientists people who've been studying this

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<v Speaker 4>for you know, hundreds and thousands of years, estimate that

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<v Speaker 4>between a third, maybe two thirds of the things that

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<v Speaker 4>live in the oceans have yet to be classified. Maybe

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<v Speaker 4>they've been spotted a few of them once or twice,

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<v Speaker 4>but they haven't actually been you know, written down and

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<v Speaker 4>cataloged as hey, this is another new species, but even

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<v Speaker 4>more just have never been seen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's interesting. I love that you point that out there, Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>because we know that there are tales of plenty big

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<v Speaker 1>fish stories abound, but having something scientifically classified means that

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<v Speaker 1>someone has been able to fit it into a taxonomy

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<v Speaker 1>of some sort. This is related to these other things

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<v Speaker 1>that we know, and this is kind of where it

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<v Speaker 1>lives and what it does before it dies. So we

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<v Speaker 1>we might not know sixty six percent of that easily.

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<v Speaker 1>We do know for sure two things. First, we know

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<v Speaker 1>that populations of undiscovered maritime animals are probably in decline

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<v Speaker 1>the way that populations of discovered and classified maritime animals

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<v Speaker 1>are Secondly, and pretty disturbingly, we know that we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know everything that's out there, but we have a wealth

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<v Speaker 1>of scientific research and a wealth of historical allegations, if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to call folklore something a little more spicy.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's interesting about all of humanity's research into the

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<v Speaker 1>world beneath the boats is this, It quickly descends into legend,

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<v Speaker 1>into mythology. Sailors have been reporting tales of gigantic sea

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<v Speaker 1>monsters since pretty much the first time human beings got

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<v Speaker 1>onto boats, got into the ocean, and then made it

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<v Speaker 1>back to land alive.

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<v Speaker 4>Just think about the first time someone saw a whale,

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<v Speaker 4>The first time someone saw a whale while on a ship. WHOA,

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<v Speaker 4>That must have been mind blowing. And because you have

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<v Speaker 4>no way of imagining even what it is when you

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<v Speaker 4>observe a creature, a sea creature like that. And that's

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<v Speaker 4>kind of what we're going to be talking about here,

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<v Speaker 4>the early visions of something underneath the water that we

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<v Speaker 4>don't know what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you imagine being that first part to see the

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<v Speaker 2>whale and then immediately after being stricken by awe and

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<v Speaker 2>majesty of it all, thinking man it sure would be

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<v Speaker 2>cool to murder that thing with a plenty stick.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you have murder it. It might be a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of food perhaps, you know, that could be a motivation.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the first encounters where it was if what

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<v Speaker 1>we know about humans remains true, then probably one of

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<v Speaker 1>the first encounters was somebody seeing it while they were

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<v Speaker 1>on the shore from a distance and then finding it

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<v Speaker 1>was edible. Maybe one washed up on the shore, which

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<v Speaker 1>could happen even before the day's widespread sonar.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, So let's get into some of the specific examples

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<v Speaker 4>of strange reports of gigantic things within the water.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>The first one we're going to talk about here is

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<v Speaker 4>something called Leviathan. This is probably a word you've heard before.

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<v Speaker 4>For me, I got it from magic cards and of

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<v Speaker 4>the Bible. It's a fantastic word. It's been used in

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<v Speaker 4>the past to describe all kinds of different purported massive

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<v Speaker 4>sea creatures. Leviathan was described in the Bible as a giant, primordial,

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes multi headed sea serpent of sorts. It makes six

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<v Speaker 4>appearances in the Old Testament, and according to Biblical scholars,

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<v Speaker 4>in some places within the Bible, Leviathan the word refers

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<v Speaker 4>to an actual physical creature, and other times it functions

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<v Speaker 4>more as a symbolic representation of God's power or wrath,

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<v Speaker 4>which you know, those two different things. Many times are

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<v Speaker 4>where arguments lie within translations of the Bible. I was wondering, guys,

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<v Speaker 4>could I just give you a couple different descriptions of

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<v Speaker 4>some of the Greek mythology descriptions of sea monsters? Just

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<v Speaker 4>really fast?

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<v Speaker 2>Please? Can you slow it down a little bit, Matt,

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<v Speaker 2>not too fast. I want to be able to keep up.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh okay, Well, I'm gonna give you a quote of

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<v Speaker 4>a monstrous fish from those written in fifteen fifty five

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<v Speaker 4>by Olus Magus. Quote. Their forms are horrible. Their head's square,

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<v Speaker 4>all set with prickles, and they have long, sharp horns

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<v Speaker 4>round about like a tree rooted up by the roots.

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<v Speaker 4>They are ten or twelve cubits long, very black, with

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<v Speaker 4>huge eyes. The apple of the eye is of one cubit,

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<v Speaker 4>and it is red and fiery colored, which in the

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<v Speaker 4>dark night appears to fishermen afar from underwaters as a

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<v Speaker 4>burning fire, having hairs like goose feathers.

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<v Speaker 2>What is that describing, Matt? That doesn't sound like any

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<v Speaker 2>living sea creature that I'm familiar with.

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<v Speaker 4>It's describing a giant monster fish.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what I thought, just making sure I was

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<v Speaker 2>keeping up. Okay, all right, I'll yet.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's thought that perhaps what was actually seen there

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<v Speaker 4>was a giant squid, just due to other descriptions.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, but it's got, it's got. It's got horns like trees. Though,

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<v Speaker 2>what on a giant squid has horns like trees?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>What's a cuba. That's a big measurement, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's like an ancient form of measurement, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's like like a yard, right or something along those lines.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe we've talked about that in a couple other episodes.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly what a cube it is in the measurement.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's like the length of your arm. Yeah, from

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<v Speaker 2>your elbow to your to your fingers.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, yeah, just one more here from the Odyssey, if

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<v Speaker 4>you guys are cool with it, there's a sea monster

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<v Speaker 4>called the skila or skia Skyla. Maybe I can't I

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<v Speaker 4>can't remember from my days of learning about Greek myths,

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<v Speaker 4>but here's here's the quote. Her legs and there are

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<v Speaker 4>twelve are like great tentacles, unjointed and upon her serpent

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<v Speaker 4>necks are born six heads like nightmares of ferocity and

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<v Speaker 4>triple serried rows of fangs and deep gullets of black death.

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<v Speaker 4>Half her length. She sways her heads in air.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, deep gullets of black death.

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<v Speaker 4>I like that one, really creepy. But again it sounds

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit like it could be a giant squid

0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:18.760
<v Speaker 4>that was observed and just there was no understanding of

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<v Speaker 4>what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>And so there are multiple, multiple examples. You know, typically

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:30.880
<v Speaker 1>in the West, we tend to think of things that

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:35.760
<v Speaker 1>occurred in the Atlantic or Mediterranean or Middle East, you know,

0:29:35.800 --> 0:29:40.160
<v Speaker 1>from Middle Eastern cultures, Phoenicians and so on. One example from

0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Nordic folklore would of course be the Kraken. I think

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of us were waiting for the kraken to

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<v Speaker 1>show up. This was a cryptid before the word existed,

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 1>wreaking havoc from Norway to Greenland. But the vast majority

0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:58.479
<v Speaker 1>of people of Nordic people believed in this thing, and

0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:01.640
<v Speaker 1>many thought they had seen it. Its imo was to

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<v Speaker 1>attack vessels with its tentacles wrapping around a ship, and

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<v Speaker 1>if unable to pull the ship down, this creature would

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<v Speaker 1>begin circling the vessel, creating a maelstrom or a vortex

0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 1>that would drag the ship beneath the waves. Legends said

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:23.320
<v Speaker 1>the kraken could devour the entire crew of a ship

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<v Speaker 1>in a single go. One of our first documented allegations

0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:32.520
<v Speaker 1>of this creature's existence dates back to a story written

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<v Speaker 1>in eleven eighty CE by a King Zvere of Norway.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is I want to point out here, and

0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:44.240
<v Speaker 1>I think I talked about this in a previous episode.

0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:45.480
<v Speaker 2>The idea of a.

0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Creature devouring an entire ship might seem outlandish now, but

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<v Speaker 1>we have to remember the average size of a ship

0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 1>was much smaller back then. So what would have been

0:30:56.840 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 1>considered a big ship attacked and justid by a fish

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<v Speaker 1>is you know, it's not as big as the megayachts

0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:09.080
<v Speaker 1>of today. But still these people, again, there are people.

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:13.920
<v Speaker 1>They're as smart as anyone listening today in twenty twenty, right,

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:18.280
<v Speaker 1>the brain, the hardware hasn't evolved all that much. So

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<v Speaker 1>we have to ask, if these things are so dangerous,

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<v Speaker 1>why would you mess with them at all. In the

0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:26.320
<v Speaker 1>case of the Kraken, it's because there was enormous profit

0:31:26.760 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 1>or potential for profit. The Kraken was accompanied by large, large,

0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:37.080
<v Speaker 1>ginormous schools of fish that would follow it around, and

0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 1>when it surfaced, when it breached the water, fish cascaded

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<v Speaker 1>off the creature's back. And that meant that if your

0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:47.560
<v Speaker 1>boat was around, all you had to do was literally

0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 1>have a net in the water, and then you could

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<v Speaker 1>get more fish than you would in months otherwise.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty cool. That's a kind of a net positive sea

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<v Speaker 2>monster side effect. I'd be good about that. Oh man,

0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:03.080
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even catch that, but no, you know, the

0:32:03.200 --> 0:32:05.280
<v Speaker 2>krakend definitely sounds like a giant squid.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, yeah, we see a lot of descriptions of tentacles,

0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:10.040
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. We see a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>descriptions of a pretty agro, pretty big, many armed thing.

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:18.720
<v Speaker 1>And of course, at this point, finally getting to say

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<v Speaker 1>this on air, Hail Hydra, shout out to the myth

0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 1>of old More on that later, but you know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>another that's another Greek myth I believe in the story

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<v Speaker 1>of Hydra. The idea is that you lop off one

0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:37.040
<v Speaker 1>one head. It's a multi headed beast. You lop off

0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:40.680
<v Speaker 1>one head and two grow in its place. It's also

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:44.360
<v Speaker 1>done a lot for the Marvel cinematic universe, which I'm

0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:46.680
<v Speaker 1>sure is what the Greeks were thinking about when they.

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<v Speaker 2>Wrote that, No question, they were laying the groundwork. So

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<v Speaker 2>next we have something from Japan, a creature, a sea

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<v Speaker 2>wrecking creature known as the Umi Bozoo that was rumored

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<v Speaker 2>to attack, specifically in calm waters, where it would rise up,

0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:10.880
<v Speaker 2>creating this kind of self contained maelstrom and described as

0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:16.080
<v Speaker 2>a black phantom with two huge eyes. Okay, just phantom.

0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:20.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm picturing like ghost shaped, you know, So let's just again,

0:33:20.120 --> 0:33:23.600
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna come back to this two huge eyes. And

0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:26.680
<v Speaker 2>in the lore of the time, this Omi Bozou was

0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:30.239
<v Speaker 2>thought to be a spirit of some sort rather than

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:34.240
<v Speaker 2>an actual corporeal creature, and the only way to escape

0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:38.040
<v Speaker 2>this thing was to kind of almost like distract it

0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:41.120
<v Speaker 2>like a cat, you know, with like a like a

0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:44.080
<v Speaker 2>mouse toy or like a feather. But they would use

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<v Speaker 2>what they referred to as a bottomless barrel, and I

0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:49.040
<v Speaker 2>had to offer Mike ask Ben to clarify what the

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:51.160
<v Speaker 2>hell that is. And it's it's pretty simple when you

0:33:51.200 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 2>think about it. A bottomless barrel is a barrel with

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<v Speaker 2>no bottom, a cylinder. You take out both ends and

0:33:57.200 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 2>it becomes bottomless and infinite, and it would just like

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:02.720
<v Speaker 2>be all, what the hell is this? I got it?

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:04.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, and they need to sail away while

0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 2>it's confused.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing about folklore, right, we see the truth

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:12.960
<v Speaker 1>but told slant. As Emily Dickinson would later go on

0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:17.839
<v Speaker 1>to note, what's odd about this and what differentiates this

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:22.160
<v Speaker 1>folklore from a lot of other folklore throughout human civilization,

0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:25.480
<v Speaker 1>unlest it's human and pre human civilization, but no spoilers,

0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:29.640
<v Speaker 1>that's a different episode, is that the folklore here does

0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:35.000
<v Speaker 1>have often provable I will say provable seeds of the truth.

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:40.680
<v Speaker 1>There's the little grain of sand that makes the pearl

0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:47.800
<v Speaker 1>of legend. Research shows the ocean has indisputably been home

0:34:47.880 --> 0:34:52.439
<v Speaker 1>to enormous dangerous creatures in the distant past. It's home

0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:55.920
<v Speaker 1>to enormous dangerous creatures now, of course, but it was

0:34:55.920 --> 0:34:58.360
<v Speaker 1>also home to things like the meglodon.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yes, the ma That was a big old shark

0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:03.960
<v Speaker 4>three times the size of a great white with teeth

0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:07.320
<v Speaker 4>as big as your hand. Hope they're really extinct?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, I don't know, Matt. I kind of hope

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:15.440
<v Speaker 1>they're still around, not around me specifically, but just like

0:35:15.600 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 1>out in the world megalodonning even look.

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<v Speaker 4>You said to yourself, the populations of sea creatures are declining.

0:35:23.120 --> 0:35:26.480
<v Speaker 4>What's that megalodon doing other than just slurping up sea

0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:31.160
<v Speaker 4>creatures or mashing them violently with its teeth that are

0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:32.480
<v Speaker 4>the size of fists.

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<v Speaker 1>My heart goes out to sharks. They're amazing animals if

0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:39.680
<v Speaker 1>you look at the mechanism of their evolution and adaptation,

0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:43.399
<v Speaker 1>and also their existence seems very stressful to me, since

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<v Speaker 1>they the way that their gills are structured. They can't act,

0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:51.240
<v Speaker 1>they can't stand still. They always have to keep moving

0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:54.319
<v Speaker 1>and forcing water through the gills. It's stressful. But even

0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:57.200
<v Speaker 1>if a megaladon was around now, it would not be

0:35:57.280 --> 0:36:02.359
<v Speaker 1>the largest creature the ocean is home to proven like

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:09.120
<v Speaker 1>kaiju size things, right, like the blue whale is sorry,

0:36:09.200 --> 0:36:14.640
<v Speaker 1>dinosaurs officially the largest single animal ever confirmed to exist.

0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:15.160
<v Speaker 4>Ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh, by the way, you guys, I remember there was

0:36:18.040 --> 0:36:20.520
<v Speaker 2>an episode a while back where space whales came up

0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:22.919
<v Speaker 2>and I was trying to wreck my brain, like where

0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:25.279
<v Speaker 2>have I seen space whales? And I said, I thought

0:36:25.280 --> 0:36:27.560
<v Speaker 2>it was as artists French artist Mobius, and then I

0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 2>thought it was maybe Salvador Dali or something, and a

0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:33.160
<v Speaker 2>listener wrote in and said it was actually from an

0:36:33.200 --> 0:36:36.600
<v Speaker 2>episode of Futurama. I wish I remember the listener's name,

0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:39.600
<v Speaker 2>but if you're hearing this, thank you listener. My brain

0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:43.080
<v Speaker 2>was eating itself over that one, basically. But yeah, it's true.

0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:46.040
<v Speaker 2>And you know I've mentioned that I'm also I have

0:36:46.080 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 2>an abiding fear of large things that lurk beneath the depths,

0:36:50.680 --> 0:36:53.080
<v Speaker 2>and that I often have had dreams where I feel

0:36:53.080 --> 0:36:56.520
<v Speaker 2>myself as this speck in this massive ocean with like

0:36:56.840 --> 0:37:00.680
<v Speaker 2>huge unseen things kind of lurking about, and then like

0:37:00.719 --> 0:37:02.560
<v Speaker 2>a whale will come up under me and just sort

0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:04.640
<v Speaker 2>of scoop me up and it doesn't eat me. It's

0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:08.080
<v Speaker 2>just more of this kind of fear of its sheer size.

0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:11.879
<v Speaker 2>And it's true. The blue whale is absolutely massive. I mean,

0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:14.200
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna know it when it comes up under you

0:37:14.360 --> 0:37:16.960
<v Speaker 2>in the ocean, or when you see it, hopefully from

0:37:17.000 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 2>the safety of like, you know, one of those tours,

0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:24.120
<v Speaker 2>those boat tours. One hundred people can fit into its mouth,

0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:28.040
<v Speaker 2>not its guts, its mouth, its heart is the size

0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:31.319
<v Speaker 2>of a small car, maybe maybe not even a small car. Ben,

0:37:31.400 --> 0:37:33.520
<v Speaker 2>what do you think a medium car like a like

0:37:33.560 --> 0:37:34.680
<v Speaker 2>a mid sized suv.

0:37:35.440 --> 0:37:37.840
<v Speaker 1>It's it's a car. They could comfortably seat four to

0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:38.879
<v Speaker 1>five people.

0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:39.600
<v Speaker 4>Got it, okay?

0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:44.120
<v Speaker 2>And the beat of that heart can be detected from

0:37:44.160 --> 0:37:47.120
<v Speaker 2>two miles away. But we've got some other things on

0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:52.600
<v Speaker 2>the list of massive underwater dwelling creatures, things like sperm whales,

0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:57.120
<v Speaker 2>the whale shark, the basking shark, and of course our

0:37:57.239 --> 0:38:02.080
<v Speaker 2>pal and yours, the giant civic octopus. Not to mention

0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:05.759
<v Speaker 2>the lion's main jellyfish, which can reach more than one

0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:09.960
<v Speaker 2>hundred and twenty feet or thirty six point six meters

0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:10.840
<v Speaker 2>in length.

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<v Speaker 4>But the lion's main is mostly creepy tentacles, right or not?

0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:22.840
<v Speaker 4>Tentacles creepy? Are they called tentacles in a jellyfish? They're

0:38:23.760 --> 0:38:33.000
<v Speaker 4>tendrilsl Yeah, yeah, terrifying lion's main tendrils. Those really freak

0:38:33.080 --> 0:38:36.120
<v Speaker 4>me out. Did jellyfish give you, guys the same kind

0:38:36.160 --> 0:38:39.160
<v Speaker 4>of feelings when you're thinking about swimming in the ocean.

0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:41.799
<v Speaker 2>I think they're beautiful to look at in an aquarium tank,

0:38:41.880 --> 0:38:45.040
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, I mean they definitely because they're they're stingy boys, right,

0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:47.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they will mess you up and then you

0:38:47.120 --> 0:38:48.160
<v Speaker 2>got to pee on yourself.

0:38:48.600 --> 0:38:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Not all jelly hashtag. Not all jellyfish right are poisonous,

0:38:54.080 --> 0:38:57.239
<v Speaker 1>but I personally I love them. I think it's like

0:38:57.320 --> 0:39:03.439
<v Speaker 1>watching a cloud underwater, or you know, a nebula through

0:39:03.440 --> 0:39:08.000
<v Speaker 1>a telescope. Also, jellyfish, at least one tiny species of

0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:13.319
<v Speaker 1>jellyfish occupies a top ten position and Bend's list of

0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:16.520
<v Speaker 1>top ten animals because it's functionally immortal. You remember that

0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:19.640
<v Speaker 1>one matt it grows up and then if it's injured

0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:22.520
<v Speaker 1>or something, it returns to a juvenile phase and lives

0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:28.319
<v Speaker 1>its life again. We did an episode on real life

0:39:28.360 --> 0:39:32.600
<v Speaker 1>immortality a number of years ago now, and there is

0:39:32.680 --> 0:39:36.759
<v Speaker 1>real life immortality at least for some animals, and they're

0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:39.040
<v Speaker 1>all pretty crappy versions of immortality.

0:39:40.760 --> 0:39:44.720
<v Speaker 2>But yes, I will say the jellyfish outside of their waters,

0:39:44.760 --> 0:39:47.520
<v Speaker 2>they don't hold up so well. They're super blobby and

0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:49.399
<v Speaker 2>like like a thing that you'd want to step over

0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:51.759
<v Speaker 2>on the beach, and if they are stingy ones, you

0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:53.520
<v Speaker 2>definitely would want to step over them. But it just

0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:57.160
<v Speaker 2>goes to show how specifically adapted they are for life

0:39:57.160 --> 0:39:59.160
<v Speaker 2>in the ocean. As the case with all of the

0:39:59.160 --> 0:40:02.120
<v Speaker 2>creatres we're talking about today, they don't they cannot hold

0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:03.280
<v Speaker 2>up outside of the water.

0:40:03.760 --> 0:40:06.480
<v Speaker 4>But some of those mental wars are very difficult to detect,

0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:09.560
<v Speaker 4>and they've got really long tendrils, and you would never

0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:13.040
<v Speaker 4>know who's there and it could kill humans. Okay, maybe

0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:15.120
<v Speaker 4>I just have a weird thing with jellyfish.

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Well well, also, that's not to sound like a jerk,

0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:23.440
<v Speaker 1>but one of the reasons I really wanted to hit

0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:27.440
<v Speaker 1>the idea of specificity of adaptation is should humans be

0:40:28.040 --> 0:40:28.800
<v Speaker 1>under the water?

0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:30.319
<v Speaker 2>How far should we be.

0:40:30.440 --> 0:40:32.719
<v Speaker 1>Under the water? You know what I mean, Like if

0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:37.080
<v Speaker 1>you're I don't want to like victim blame or anything,

0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:40.160
<v Speaker 1>because I know life is crazy and everybody's the main

0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:45.719
<v Speaker 1>character of their own story. But the maybe maybe jellyfish

0:40:46.040 --> 0:40:51.560
<v Speaker 1>and attacking leviathans are a sign that we should we

0:40:51.600 --> 0:40:54.839
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't go too far into the depths. I mean, the

0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:57.840
<v Speaker 1>more you think about it, it makes sense to ask

0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:02.600
<v Speaker 1>could there still be enormous creatures out there in the brine.

0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:05.839
<v Speaker 1>One of the things we talked about off air as

0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:10.040
<v Speaker 1>we were diving into this episode was Jules vern Of course,

0:41:10.160 --> 0:41:14.480
<v Speaker 1>his famous eighteen seventy novel twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea.

0:41:14.719 --> 0:41:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Don't think too much about the unit of measurement there

0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:21.480
<v Speaker 1>just to enjoy the poetic title. There's a quote here

0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:26.520
<v Speaker 1>from vern that applies to this episode, and it's this,

0:41:28.480 --> 0:41:32.000
<v Speaker 1>either we do know all the varieties of beings which

0:41:32.040 --> 0:41:34.840
<v Speaker 1>people our planet.

0:41:34.160 --> 0:41:34.799
<v Speaker 5>Or we do not.

0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:38.400
<v Speaker 1>If we do not know them all, if nature still

0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:42.319
<v Speaker 1>has secrets in the deeps, for us, nothing is more

0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:46.160
<v Speaker 1>conformable to reason than to admit the existence of fishes

0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:51.000
<v Speaker 1>or cetaceans of other kinds, or even of new species.

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:58.200
<v Speaker 2>So could sea monsters be real? Well, we'll dive right

0:41:58.200 --> 0:42:00.960
<v Speaker 2>into that after a quick sponsor break.

0:42:08.120 --> 0:42:11.600
<v Speaker 1>Here's where it gets crazy, and it does get crazy.

0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Could the monsters be real? This genuinely depends on how

0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:20.759
<v Speaker 1>you define monster. If we're talking about monsters, as in

0:42:20.960 --> 0:42:24.839
<v Speaker 1>creatures of monstrous size, then our odds of finding one

0:42:25.120 --> 0:42:27.839
<v Speaker 1>understandably go down. But they don't go down as far

0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:30.160
<v Speaker 1>as you might think, because we still have a lot

0:42:30.200 --> 0:42:33.480
<v Speaker 1>to learn about the ocean. But we're learning more about

0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:36.000
<v Speaker 1>it now than ever before.

0:42:36.640 --> 0:42:41.839
<v Speaker 4>Yes, that is correct. Numerous governments and their militaries are

0:42:41.920 --> 0:42:46.879
<v Speaker 4>able to detect the movement of very large objects from

0:42:47.000 --> 0:42:50.440
<v Speaker 4>far away when it comes to things submerged in the ocean,

0:42:51.160 --> 0:42:53.920
<v Speaker 4>and as we talked about in our episode we covered

0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:57.120
<v Speaker 4>not that long ago about sonar and its effects on

0:42:57.200 --> 0:43:02.480
<v Speaker 4>marine animals. Earth's oceans essentially have like roaming detection networks

0:43:02.480 --> 0:43:05.960
<v Speaker 4>in the form of submarines, which is very very true,

0:43:06.160 --> 0:43:11.919
<v Speaker 4>and commercial shipping vessels. And there's also purported technology that

0:43:12.040 --> 0:43:15.719
<v Speaker 4>maybe the US military and other militaries have miked up

0:43:15.880 --> 0:43:20.360
<v Speaker 4>the oceans to a large degree. So there's affirmed.

0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:23.160
<v Speaker 1>I think it's confirmed.

0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:25.560
<v Speaker 4>I think it is confirmed too. I know it is

0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:28.280
<v Speaker 4>confirmed at least from the US's side, but I wonder

0:43:28.360 --> 0:43:31.400
<v Speaker 4>how many other countries have something similar in place.

0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:34.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, that's a very good point, Matt. And

0:43:36.480 --> 0:43:41.359
<v Speaker 1>we essentially have some form of roaming detection networks. They're

0:43:41.400 --> 0:43:46.279
<v Speaker 1>meant to detect other works of humanity more so than

0:43:46.520 --> 0:43:52.040
<v Speaker 1>other animals, but they work. That's why we spent billions

0:43:52.080 --> 0:43:58.480
<v Speaker 1>building them, and we still have found huge, occluded disturbing things.

0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:01.719
<v Speaker 1>So one thing that was tough for us to not

0:44:01.920 --> 0:44:04.240
<v Speaker 1>spoil in the Hear of the Fat portion of today's

0:44:04.280 --> 0:44:10.480
<v Speaker 1>show is that the source of many many sea serpent

0:44:10.560 --> 0:44:15.440
<v Speaker 1>and sea monster myths across the across the centuries turns

0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:18.160
<v Speaker 1>out probably to be based in a real thing. The

0:44:18.239 --> 0:44:24.560
<v Speaker 1>colossal or the giant squid. Today it's known as Architathus Dukes.

0:44:24.600 --> 0:44:28.880
<v Speaker 1>It's as old, like rumors of this are as old

0:44:29.080 --> 0:44:35.320
<v Speaker 1>as the first days of sailing, honestly, but for centuries

0:44:35.360 --> 0:44:39.600
<v Speaker 1>the only proof we had was really creepy, really circumstantial,

0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:46.279
<v Speaker 1>disturbing stuff, nearly unidentifiable carcasses wash ashore, the lone survivor

0:44:46.600 --> 0:44:50.040
<v Speaker 1>of a shipwreck shows up with you know, like with

0:44:50.880 --> 0:44:54.800
<v Speaker 1>missing crew members and a nineteen foot tentacle that's rotting

0:44:54.880 --> 0:44:58.720
<v Speaker 1>in the sun. And then we find, you know, giant

0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:03.120
<v Speaker 1>known creatures, especially sperm whales in the in the era

0:45:03.360 --> 0:45:07.640
<v Speaker 1>of whaling, right you know the movie Dick Days and Beyond.

0:45:08.280 --> 0:45:13.240
<v Speaker 1>You would find whales that had scars, like gigantic sucker

0:45:13.320 --> 0:45:18.200
<v Speaker 1>marks that were wrought by some unknown animal. Or you

0:45:18.239 --> 0:45:23.080
<v Speaker 1>would find these gigantic beaks. They looked like kiju beaks.

0:45:23.120 --> 0:45:26.840
<v Speaker 1>They looked like the beaks of a squid that no

0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:29.839
<v Speaker 1>God would ever put on this planet, right, because these

0:45:29.840 --> 0:45:33.800
<v Speaker 1>are very religious people finding these two And it wasn't

0:45:33.880 --> 0:45:41.600
<v Speaker 1>until maybe in your lifetime, fellow conspiracy realists, that scientists

0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:46.440
<v Speaker 1>finally got a photograph of a real life krackt and

0:45:46.480 --> 0:45:50.600
<v Speaker 1>that was just like one blurry paparazzi under the sea's photo.

0:45:50.840 --> 0:45:54.279
<v Speaker 4>You know that was yeah, that was alive, right, it was, Oh,

0:45:54.320 --> 0:45:56.960
<v Speaker 4>there's one swimmer. I wasn't a carcass, it wasn't some remnant.

0:45:57.040 --> 0:46:02.319
<v Speaker 4>It was an actual thing swimming around. And then think

0:46:02.360 --> 0:46:07.399
<v Speaker 4>about this. It wasn't until the you know, the Mayan Apocalypse,

0:46:07.880 --> 0:46:14.080
<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, twenty twelve when we acquired actual video footage

0:46:14.080 --> 0:46:18.640
<v Speaker 4>of a live giant squid existing in its in its environment,

0:46:19.560 --> 0:46:23.080
<v Speaker 4>because there was there was another time earlier than that

0:46:23.160 --> 0:46:27.000
<v Speaker 4>where a giant squid was I believe caught essentially and

0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:28.720
<v Speaker 4>pulled up to the surface.

0:46:28.960 --> 0:46:30.440
<v Speaker 1>By the Japanese fishing vessel.

0:46:30.520 --> 0:46:32.040
<v Speaker 4>That was the one we were just talking about, right,

0:46:33.080 --> 0:46:36.120
<v Speaker 4>was that two thousand and six? Maybe I think something

0:46:36.120 --> 0:46:39.920
<v Speaker 4>around that time where one got pulled up from from

0:46:39.960 --> 0:46:43.439
<v Speaker 4>the depths to the surface, just in the act of

0:46:43.960 --> 0:46:48.320
<v Speaker 4>a large fishing operation. But yeah, twenty twelve, twenty thirteen

0:46:48.360 --> 0:46:51.200
<v Speaker 4>as well, we acquired actual video footage of a giant

0:46:51.239 --> 0:46:53.440
<v Speaker 4>squid and it was creepy.

0:46:53.880 --> 0:46:56.359
<v Speaker 2>And you know, if you guys ever seen that Noah

0:46:56.360 --> 0:47:00.200
<v Speaker 2>Baumbach movie The Squid and the Whale, it references a

0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:03.040
<v Speaker 2>diorama that you can see at the Museum of Natural

0:47:03.080 --> 0:47:07.120
<v Speaker 2>History in New York of a massive sperm whale essentially

0:47:07.200 --> 0:47:10.600
<v Speaker 2>doing battle with one of these kraken like creatures. And

0:47:10.640 --> 0:47:14.359
<v Speaker 2>it's pretty epic to look at. Still on display there

0:47:14.360 --> 0:47:14.920
<v Speaker 2>as far as I know.

0:47:15.719 --> 0:47:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was there last time I went. I love

0:47:17.640 --> 0:47:21.080
<v Speaker 1>that museum. It's I don't know. A lot of that

0:47:21.200 --> 0:47:23.799
<v Speaker 1>museum is dark when you get into the exhibits. I

0:47:23.920 --> 0:47:28.560
<v Speaker 1>like dark museums. These creatures like dark areas of the water.

0:47:29.080 --> 0:47:31.359
<v Speaker 1>They live in very deep areas of the ocean. As

0:47:31.400 --> 0:47:33.840
<v Speaker 1>far as we can tell, again, we know very little

0:47:33.880 --> 0:47:38.320
<v Speaker 1>about them. They're anywhere from thirteen hundred to three thousand

0:47:38.360 --> 0:47:42.000
<v Speaker 1>feet down. We know that they can grow larger than

0:47:42.080 --> 0:47:45.520
<v Speaker 1>some whales. The only predator of theirs we know about

0:47:45.680 --> 0:47:50.040
<v Speaker 1>is the sperm whale. We don't know how large these

0:47:50.080 --> 0:47:53.239
<v Speaker 1>things can get, yet we know that they are stronger

0:47:53.239 --> 0:47:56.480
<v Speaker 1>than an elephant. We know that a bite from their

0:47:56.560 --> 0:48:02.720
<v Speaker 1>beak has enough force to sever steel cables. This means

0:48:02.840 --> 0:48:05.240
<v Speaker 1>that if one of these made it to the surface

0:48:05.880 --> 0:48:11.359
<v Speaker 1>in the days of wooden boats, that boat would In short, well,

0:48:11.400 --> 0:48:13.640
<v Speaker 1>it's a family show, so I'm just going to say

0:48:13.640 --> 0:48:15.480
<v Speaker 1>they would be very deep trouble.

0:48:15.880 --> 0:48:20.759
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, what if your ship has a steel hull,

0:48:21.160 --> 0:48:25.400
<v Speaker 4>It doesn't seem to matter. These daily can go through anything.

0:48:26.040 --> 0:48:28.480
<v Speaker 1>You could puncture that. Yeah, just stay on their good side.

0:48:28.560 --> 0:48:28.839
<v Speaker 4>I mean.

0:48:28.880 --> 0:48:31.600
<v Speaker 1>The craziest thing about this, it's a real life sea monster.

0:48:32.200 --> 0:48:35.760
<v Speaker 1>It fits some of the qualities we described, right, and.

0:48:37.400 --> 0:48:38.919
<v Speaker 2>We know so.

0:48:39.360 --> 0:48:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Very little about it. We still have a lot of

0:48:41.600 --> 0:48:45.239
<v Speaker 1>questions about large sea animals that everybody's kind of familiar with. Right,

0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:47.520
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of stuff we don't understand about whales.

0:48:47.760 --> 0:48:50.960
<v Speaker 1>We know even less about these things. As recently as

0:48:51.120 --> 0:48:54.719
<v Speaker 1>June of twenty twenty of this year. Last month, as

0:48:54.719 --> 0:49:00.160
<v Speaker 1>we record this, we learned new stuff about these monsters.

0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:04.160
<v Speaker 1>A juvenile version of them washed up on the shores

0:49:04.200 --> 0:49:06.680
<v Speaker 1>of South Africa. This is not the first time it happened,

0:49:07.080 --> 0:49:12.400
<v Speaker 1>but this creature was already thirteen feet long. That's baby

0:49:12.440 --> 0:49:14.360
<v Speaker 1>size for these guys, right. It's a mini me of

0:49:14.360 --> 0:49:19.080
<v Speaker 1>a giant squid. But it was just about two years old.

0:49:19.600 --> 0:49:22.319
<v Speaker 1>We also don't know how long they live. We don't

0:49:22.360 --> 0:49:25.719
<v Speaker 1>know how big they grow while they're alive. And they're

0:49:25.760 --> 0:49:29.279
<v Speaker 1>not the only thing out there. I mean, I I

0:49:29.360 --> 0:49:32.640
<v Speaker 1>say we go full Lovecraft. Let's point out that the

0:49:32.680 --> 0:49:38.440
<v Speaker 1>ocean is also home to giant deep sea worms. And

0:49:38.440 --> 0:49:40.919
<v Speaker 1>when we say giant, we mean giant. They also glow

0:49:40.920 --> 0:49:41.719
<v Speaker 1>in the dark.

0:49:42.760 --> 0:49:48.560
<v Speaker 2>So you know, these guys well as individuals, wouldn't necessarily

0:49:48.600 --> 0:49:53.520
<v Speaker 2>be considered in the same league. Yeah, that's a sea

0:49:53.560 --> 0:49:55.440
<v Speaker 2>punt as well as the rest of these animals that

0:49:55.480 --> 0:49:59.719
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about today. They're called pyrosomes and their free

0:49:59.719 --> 0:50:04.000
<v Speaker 2>flow voting tunicates. They're also known as the unicorns of

0:50:04.080 --> 0:50:08.239
<v Speaker 2>the sea. But they're they're pretty big, you know, they're

0:50:08.280 --> 0:50:10.800
<v Speaker 2>big enough for a human to ride, but they also

0:50:10.920 --> 0:50:16.080
<v Speaker 2>kind of create these massive swarms. They're soft and delicate,

0:50:16.280 --> 0:50:21.480
<v Speaker 2>like some sort of like feather boa perhaps, And again,

0:50:21.600 --> 0:50:25.200
<v Speaker 2>like bend off Off, Mic pointed out that these are

0:50:25.200 --> 0:50:28.160
<v Speaker 2>really in kind of on a technicality, sea monster by default.

0:50:28.440 --> 0:50:32.440
<v Speaker 2>That's because each of the worms is actually a colony

0:50:33.000 --> 0:50:38.120
<v Speaker 2>of a thousands of individual creatures, and the individuals themselves

0:50:38.600 --> 0:50:42.640
<v Speaker 2>are super tiny. It's almost like they operating this crazy

0:50:42.719 --> 0:50:44.040
<v Speaker 2>hive mind type situation.

0:50:45.000 --> 0:50:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, they're like a big commune, you know, and

0:50:48.920 --> 0:50:54.640
<v Speaker 1>jellyfish often also or creatures of colony or hive. But

0:50:55.120 --> 0:51:00.000
<v Speaker 1>these giant sea worms are also we should mention because

0:51:01.000 --> 0:51:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Chekhov's gun rule. Right, we did. We did name drop Lovecraft,

0:51:04.719 --> 0:51:07.000
<v Speaker 1>so we have to follow up on that. These worms

0:51:07.040 --> 0:51:11.480
<v Speaker 1>are not eldritch objects of warship sleeping beneath the waves

0:51:11.520 --> 0:51:14.960
<v Speaker 1>for AONs, waiting for the stars to be right. This

0:51:15.120 --> 0:51:17.239
<v Speaker 1>is not a case of that is not dead, which

0:51:17.320 --> 0:51:20.759
<v Speaker 1>can eternal lie and with strange AONs even death may

0:51:20.840 --> 0:51:24.399
<v Speaker 1>die kind of thing. It's not We're not at Cuthulhu

0:51:24.680 --> 0:51:29.920
<v Speaker 1>level yet. But Matt Noll, while we are on the

0:51:29.960 --> 0:51:34.719
<v Speaker 1>subject of waking ancient creatures, it's time to ask what

0:51:35.239 --> 0:51:40.359
<v Speaker 1>about the other monsters. We have sea monster news for you.

0:51:40.800 --> 0:51:46.600
<v Speaker 4>Well, as we stated before, we've been talking about giant monsters,

0:51:47.239 --> 0:51:49.880
<v Speaker 4>right that we've been describing monsters as something that is

0:51:50.040 --> 0:51:54.360
<v Speaker 4>monster us in its size. But there could be something

0:51:54.719 --> 0:52:00.480
<v Speaker 4>very dangerous, very frightening that isn't giant that could be

0:52:00.520 --> 0:52:03.919
<v Speaker 4>discovered down below the depths. And we have some news

0:52:03.960 --> 0:52:08.640
<v Speaker 4>for you. This year, scientists made a discovery that future

0:52:08.680 --> 0:52:15.080
<v Speaker 4>historians will doubtlessly call classic twenty twenty. You know why.

0:52:15.960 --> 0:52:20.279
<v Speaker 4>They found one hundred million year old microbes beneath the

0:52:20.320 --> 0:52:24.600
<v Speaker 4>seafloor in the South Pacific Geyer. This is a site

0:52:24.760 --> 0:52:29.160
<v Speaker 4>east of Australia where ocean currents intersect, and this is

0:52:29.800 --> 0:52:32.720
<v Speaker 4>considered to be one of the areas of the ocean

0:52:32.719 --> 0:52:35.360
<v Speaker 4>that has the least amount of life, right, some of

0:52:35.400 --> 0:52:38.839
<v Speaker 4>the deadest parts of the ocean, where it's almost there's

0:52:38.840 --> 0:52:43.080
<v Speaker 4>almost no nutrients here that animals need to survive. The

0:52:43.200 --> 0:52:48.440
<v Speaker 4>scientists dug down very far, five seven hundred meters below

0:52:48.600 --> 0:52:53.600
<v Speaker 4>sea level, and they found something that had been in

0:52:53.640 --> 0:52:58.120
<v Speaker 4>a Lovecraftian way, slumbering since before the age of men.

0:52:59.280 --> 0:53:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, these things looked as though they were dead. And

0:53:04.080 --> 0:53:07.040
<v Speaker 1>it's already a great find, you know, goscience. This is

0:53:07.040 --> 0:53:11.560
<v Speaker 1>already a groundbreaking discovery to find evidence of these things

0:53:11.560 --> 0:53:14.560
<v Speaker 1>that were once alive. So they brought them back to

0:53:14.600 --> 0:53:17.040
<v Speaker 1>the lab. They brought the clay cores they had dug up,

0:53:17.080 --> 0:53:20.040
<v Speaker 1>as you had mentioned, Matt, back to their lab where

0:53:20.040 --> 0:53:22.880
<v Speaker 1>they found these microbes, and they said, oh wow, this

0:53:22.960 --> 0:53:25.839
<v Speaker 1>is amazing. There was once life in this part of

0:53:26.680 --> 0:53:32.480
<v Speaker 1>the South Pacific, guyer, I don't know. Let's feed them,

0:53:32.880 --> 0:53:35.360
<v Speaker 1>which sounds weird, right. It's a lot like finding a

0:53:35.400 --> 0:53:39.120
<v Speaker 1>dead body and saying, let's put a sandwich by it.

0:53:39.280 --> 0:53:42.080
<v Speaker 1>Let's just come on, let's put a sandwich by it.

0:53:42.080 --> 0:53:45.400
<v Speaker 1>It's just between us we're all buddies here. And what

0:53:45.680 --> 0:53:50.960
<v Speaker 1>happened is that these microbes, these dead bodies, got up

0:53:50.960 --> 0:53:54.040
<v Speaker 1>and ate the sandwich. So what happened after that is

0:53:54.080 --> 0:53:58.640
<v Speaker 1>they started reproducing, They started breeding. Something that had been

0:53:58.840 --> 0:54:06.040
<v Speaker 1>dormant were millions of years just came back to life.

0:54:06.160 --> 0:54:08.600
<v Speaker 1>One of the scientists, and I love when scientists talked

0:54:08.640 --> 0:54:11.960
<v Speaker 1>this way. One of the scientists said that this indicates

0:54:12.040 --> 0:54:16.759
<v Speaker 1>the insane possibility. Whenever scientists used the word insane, you

0:54:16.840 --> 0:54:21.320
<v Speaker 1>know what they're you know, something rocked them. This scientist

0:54:21.400 --> 0:54:24.920
<v Speaker 1>said that these very same microbes must have been or

0:54:24.960 --> 0:54:28.080
<v Speaker 1>may have been, probably were sitting in the same place

0:54:28.440 --> 0:54:34.920
<v Speaker 1>for AONs, and that that is pure lovecrafty and stuff.

0:54:35.000 --> 0:54:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Lovecraft was a terrible person, not a great writer, but

0:54:40.640 --> 0:54:47.040
<v Speaker 1>a fantastic world builder. And the idea of undersea creatures

0:54:47.080 --> 0:54:50.439
<v Speaker 1>slumbering and being awoken by man, now we can say,

0:54:51.560 --> 0:54:55.960
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty, this happened. This happened. Lovecraft is in

0:54:56.000 --> 0:54:59.279
<v Speaker 1>a way real now. And that's just the beginning. If

0:54:59.280 --> 0:55:02.040
<v Speaker 1>we go back to the statistics when Matt Nolan and

0:55:02.080 --> 0:55:04.759
<v Speaker 1>I talked about it at the beginning of this episode,

0:55:05.320 --> 0:55:08.800
<v Speaker 1>we see some possibilities This story is and over given

0:55:08.840 --> 0:55:11.880
<v Speaker 1>what little we know about the ocean, again, very little,

0:55:12.120 --> 0:55:15.879
<v Speaker 1>it is scientifically indisputably true that we do not at

0:55:15.920 --> 0:55:19.720
<v Speaker 1>this point know every single species of life currently living

0:55:19.880 --> 0:55:23.680
<v Speaker 1>in there or you know, sleeping for dreamless dark millennia.

0:55:24.000 --> 0:55:26.920
<v Speaker 1>And given the global reach of sonar and other detection

0:55:27.040 --> 0:55:30.360
<v Speaker 1>methods radar, et cetera, sure it's plausible to say we

0:55:30.440 --> 0:55:33.760
<v Speaker 1>have a solid chance of detecting an undiscovered life form

0:55:34.480 --> 0:55:35.920
<v Speaker 1>if it ticks a few boxes.

0:55:36.320 --> 0:55:36.799
<v Speaker 4>That's right.

0:55:38.360 --> 0:55:42.640
<v Speaker 2>It really needs to have a relatively large population, It

0:55:42.719 --> 0:55:47.359
<v Speaker 2>needs to be pretty frequently on the move and spend

0:55:47.400 --> 0:55:50.120
<v Speaker 2>at least some time in that smaller part of the

0:55:50.160 --> 0:55:53.480
<v Speaker 2>ocean that we talked about, that metropolis that we study

0:55:53.520 --> 0:55:57.440
<v Speaker 2>pretty extensively. And it also is helpful if it prais

0:55:57.880 --> 0:56:02.759
<v Speaker 2>a lot on other easily detected species. But if it

0:56:02.800 --> 0:56:07.080
<v Speaker 2>doesn't exhibit these traits, our odds of finding drop quite significantly.

0:56:07.600 --> 0:56:10.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's true. It's gonna be hard for us to

0:56:12.719 --> 0:56:17.520
<v Speaker 4>just accidentally stumble upon something new, right if it doesn't

0:56:17.560 --> 0:56:20.040
<v Speaker 4>have that large population and all those things we just listed.

0:56:20.239 --> 0:56:22.360
<v Speaker 4>Does anybody else feel like it's a bad idea to

0:56:22.480 --> 0:56:29.520
<v Speaker 4>awaken aon's old microbes just in case? Maybe there's something

0:56:29.560 --> 0:56:34.879
<v Speaker 4>involved there that happened to help the extinction process with yes,

0:56:35.080 --> 0:56:36.080
<v Speaker 4>you know life on Earth.

0:56:36.360 --> 0:56:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes I do, I do, I do think that thing, Matt.

0:56:40.320 --> 0:56:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Hull, the dice, I you know what I mean. We

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<v Speaker 1>are seeing this happen in other places. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not just underwater. Well I guess it kind.

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<v Speaker 4>Of is because under ice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because ice. You know, it's just just fancier water.

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<v Speaker 1>So ice is fancy water. Great as our takeaway, please

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<v Speaker 1>just remember that out of all this stuff we did today.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, you know, you make an excellent point there, Nol,

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<v Speaker 1>because this isn't just speculation on our part. We know

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<v Speaker 1>that the discovery of extremophiles took forever creatures that live

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<v Speaker 1>by these geothermal vents on the ocean floor. They are

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<v Speaker 1>living off the energy exuded from those vents. So they're

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<v Speaker 1>not consuming a very well known other species. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>moving around a lot because they have to be by

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<v Speaker 1>those vents to survive. So with those two pieces missing,

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<v Speaker 1>it would take us a while to find them. And

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<v Speaker 1>this leaves us with two notes. You know, one is disturbing,

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<v Speaker 1>one is distressing. Or when's a little more emo, a

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<v Speaker 1>little sad. Let's go with that one. First. It may

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<v Speaker 1>well be that we do discover some gigantic species, some

0:57:58.560 --> 0:58:02.240
<v Speaker 1>real life sea monsters, sea serpent, what have you. But

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<v Speaker 1>we discover it after it becomes functionally extinct. We find

0:58:06.400 --> 0:58:10.080
<v Speaker 1>the last of a relic population. We find that they

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<v Speaker 1>are unable to breed. We find that the anthropist scene

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<v Speaker 1>has signed their death warrant, and we are just seeing

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<v Speaker 1>the dying echoes of what they once were ours.

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<v Speaker 4>Look at that poorant. Yep, there's only one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, look at it. The Last Kraken the new film

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<v Speaker 1>by Wes Anderson. The Crack was played by Edward Norton.

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<v Speaker 2>And as it turns out, the Kraken a perfectly symmetrical creature,

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<v Speaker 2>so that really works out for his MEAs on Sam, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Was really hoping you were going to say Bill Murray,

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<v Speaker 4>but we can give with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, wait wait, change it. Kracking is Bill Murray.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh you heard it?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. This this can be a crossover between

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<v Speaker 2>the stuff they do. I want you to know Cinematic

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<v Speaker 2>Universe and the Ridiculous History Cinematic Universe, where we have

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<v Speaker 2>a movie coming out in the December of this year

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<v Speaker 2>for Christ called Hans about a horse that could solve

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<v Speaker 2>math problems, played by who do we say, Daniel da

0:59:05.480 --> 0:59:10.560
<v Speaker 2>Lewis two people? Yes, that's right, Finn wolf Hard as

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<v Speaker 2>the young clever Hans, and then he grows up into

0:59:14.040 --> 0:59:17.600
<v Speaker 2>a Daniel d Lewis sized clever Hans. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>love this idea. So this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not as Wes Anderson cute. If this happens in

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<v Speaker 1>real life, our species will encounter a macro level of

0:59:29.200 --> 0:59:34.480
<v Speaker 1>a type of sadness known as sounder. If you guys

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<v Speaker 1>have ever heard this, it's a it's a manufacturer word.

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<v Speaker 1>All words are manufactured, so you know tintinnabulation. I don't

0:59:41.440 --> 0:59:43.520
<v Speaker 1>care make up your own words. It's a living language.

0:59:43.520 --> 0:59:47.520
<v Speaker 1>But soundra is a really neat word that means the

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<v Speaker 1>realization that each random passer by is living a life

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<v Speaker 1>is vivid and complex as your own, populated with their

0:59:53.560 --> 0:59:57.800
<v Speaker 1>own ambitions, friends, routines, worries, and so on, story that

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<v Speaker 1>continues invisibly around you, like an an hill sprawling deep underground,

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<v Speaker 1>and they live a life that you'll never know existed.

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<v Speaker 1>You might only appear once as someone passing by, or

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<v Speaker 1>a lighted window in the dark. So not to be

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<v Speaker 1>too waxing poetic, But how terrible is it that we

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<v Speaker 1>might find something right after we've killed it. The second

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<v Speaker 1>thing we have to remember, and this is the real

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<v Speaker 1>This is the real conspiratorial stuff here. It's a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a thought experiment. A lot of the knowledge that

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<v Speaker 1>we have about the world's oceans comes from private corporations.

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<v Speaker 5>It comes from.

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<v Speaker 1>Blue ocean navies, both of which are incentivized heavily to

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<v Speaker 1>keep secrets. So it is possible, not plausible, but possible

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<v Speaker 1>that something might have been found already. In the cost

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<v Speaker 1>of revealing it to the world, we're outweighed by the

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<v Speaker 1>profit motive of keeping something else a margin right, or

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<v Speaker 1>a promising dig or maybe you know, you're a military

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<v Speaker 1>you've detected something, detected some big animal on its last legs.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you tell people you discovered it, then they'll

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<v Speaker 1>know you have some sort of classified detection technology. And

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<v Speaker 1>then boom, billions of dollars down the Marianna's trench.

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<v Speaker 4>There.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think, I probably that's not happening. That's just

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<v Speaker 1>that's it's like a comic book level, exciting world.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think you're off base of there at all.

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<v Speaker 4>Then I feel all of that specifically the classified detection

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<v Speaker 4>tech because I want to believe that there are more

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<v Speaker 4>efficient forms of the kinds of detection technologies that we

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<v Speaker 4>have now that just that can't be shared. You're right

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<v Speaker 4>for proprietary reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>And now again, like you say, man Matt, I really

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate that support there or there, I say enabling. You

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<v Speaker 1>might be enabling a little bit in listeners.

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<v Speaker 4>But and that doesn't mean extraterrestrial technology. It just means

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<v Speaker 4>advanced technology.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, agreed. And while this idea of sea monsters, have

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<v Speaker 1>to put it in a sentence, this idea that sea

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<v Speaker 1>monsters exist, they are being hidden by you know, an

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<v Speaker 1>oil conglomerate or a navy, a bluewater navy of some sort.

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<v Speaker 1>While that definitely sounds like sci fi comic book stuff

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<v Speaker 1>or fodder for an excellent screenplay, a sci fi channel screenplay,

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<v Speaker 1>the truth is stranger things have happened out there beneath

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<v Speaker 1>the waves. So what do you think listeners? Now we

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<v Speaker 1>hand you know, like the meme. You're the captain, now,

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<v Speaker 1>so what do you think could be out there?

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<v Speaker 4>You have the trawler, you're in control. Yeah, honestly, what

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<v Speaker 4>do you think is out there? Is there anything that

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<v Speaker 4>you have seen when you've been out on the ocean,

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<v Speaker 4>or maybe in the ocean on a dive. Maybe you've

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<v Speaker 4>been in a submersible before. We would love to hear

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<v Speaker 4>about your experience. Or maybe you've worked on a rig wooh,

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<v Speaker 4>that would be cool. Tell us about that. Anything you

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<v Speaker 4>want to mention that we've discussed on this episode, or

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<v Speaker 4>if you want to give us a suggestion for another episode,

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<v Speaker 4>you can find us. We're all over social media. On

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, all of these things are true. And in addition,

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<v Speaker 2>a super producer to all of us, make a joke

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<v Speaker 2>that makes Ben laugh, reference something that's in an episode. Whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>We're pretty easy and you're in a great place to

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<v Speaker 2>share memes and just have conversation. Couldn't be a cooler

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<v Speaker 2>let us know how you dig it and do it

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<v Speaker 2>in a public forum so others will follow in your path.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you are one of the people out there

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<v Speaker 1>who says I listened to your Facebook episode, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why I would be on that. Social media in

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<v Speaker 1>general is a bag of badgers. That's for the birds.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do have a phone, and I have a

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<v Speaker 1>story to tell you. Well, you are in luck, fellow

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<v Speaker 1>clock for that three minute time window, why not just

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<v Speaker 1>to those that made it easier for me when I

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<v Speaker 1>called into our own show for some reason. But hey,

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Nol. A lot of times people don't like social

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