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Speaker 2: on me and my husband after our wedding. Oh no,

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Speaker 2: I was she even there? I twenty five female, just

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Speaker 2: married my husband Mark, twenty five male, less than a

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Speaker 2: year ago. This story is going to begin with some background,

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Speaker 2: then to the engagement, then the wedding, than the main event.

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Speaker 2: to our slash Okay Storytime Separate it. So, my mother

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Speaker 2: in law, eleanor Ellie for short, has two sons, Mark

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Speaker 2: and his younger brother, Bryan. Bryan is twenty three. For context,

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Speaker 2: Ellie has always wanted a daughter, but unfortunately never had

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Speaker 2: the daughter she always dreamed of. When Mark and I

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Speaker 2: started dating almost ten years ago, she immediately accepted me

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Speaker 2: as her daughter. Okay wow, so they started eating like

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Speaker 2: a fifteen wow, because she said they're twenty five now,

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Speaker 2: oh wow, And I was grateful for that. I didn't

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Speaker 2: have a great relationship with my own mother, so having

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Speaker 2: that positive female role model to look up to at

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Speaker 2: that age was nice. Fast forward to last year, Mark

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Speaker 2: and I were talking about getting engaged. He had a

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Speaker 2: whole proposal planned out and then picked a perfect date

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Speaker 2: that meant something to both of us, but also wasn't

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Speaker 2: obvious so I would be surprised. Surprising me was incredibly

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Speaker 2: important to Mark. About two months before the proposal, Mark,

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Speaker 2: Ellie and I were sitting in my in law's house

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Speaker 2: talking about the engagement. I jokingly asked when it was

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Speaker 2: gonna be, then started listing every date from the current

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Speaker 2: day until I got to the date. I was saying

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Speaker 2: things like November second, what about November third? November fourth?

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Speaker 2: And I kept this bit going for a while. When

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Speaker 2: I finally got to the actual date, Mark kept his

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Speaker 2: perfect poker face, but Ellie jumped in her seat and

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Speaker 2: flashed a shocked look at Mark. Subtle Okay, yeah, but

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Speaker 2: you know, honestly, some people are just really bad at

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Speaker 2: keeping secrets. Yeah, and that bit feels like, you know

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Speaker 2: you're asking to be you know if Yeah, I feel

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Speaker 2: a dangerous, dangerous game you're playing. Yeah, like some people

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Speaker 2: aren't good at poker faces right, because that doesn't feel

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Speaker 2: it at all intentional. It's just like, yeah, yeah. I

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Speaker 2: pretended not to notice and just continued listening dates. The

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Speaker 2: damage was done. I now knew the date he had picked.

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Speaker 2: If Mark knew that I had figured it out, he

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Speaker 2: would have been crushed. I really want to emphasize that

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Speaker 2: I had no idea that was the date. I had

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Speaker 2: started guessing dates months before and kept the bit going

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Speaker 2: for five minutes or more before I got to the date.

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Speaker 2: You kept the big going.

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Speaker 1: For five minutes or more, five minutes.

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Speaker 2: I need people to understand, like you, I feel like

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Speaker 2: off the you know, just like off the dumb You're

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Speaker 2: like five minutes, not a long five minutes of listing dates.

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Speaker 2: That's so long. It's not like I guessed it on

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Speaker 2: the first try. Honestly, I hadn't even really guessed it

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Speaker 2: I met Mark at his parents' house and Ellie immediately

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Speaker 2: If I didn't know before, I definitely knew then, but

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Speaker 2: They's on her. Now it's on her. Yeah, poor poor Mark. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Mark's trying so hard. I excuse myself to use the restroom,

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Speaker 2: Mark loudly pawing at his pocket, saying, let me see

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Speaker 2: and the wedding planning began. Mark and I had talked

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Speaker 2: for years about having a non traditional wedding with just

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Speaker 1: That sounds sweet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to have my dad get ordained. I've

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Speaker 3: My mom said that when she retires, and she's retired now,

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Speaker 2: Do like guidings. I love that, right. Is she on track? No?

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Speaker 3: Not, She hasn't even begun. But she's busy. She's a

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Speaker 2: She's so. I'm very much an introvert, so having a

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Speaker 2: where we live, witnesses are legally required to get married.

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Speaker 2: We discussed just going to the courthouse, but Ellie breaked out.

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Speaker 2: She insisted we needed a real wedding before I could

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Speaker 2: would perform the ceremony for free. I had never met

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Speaker 2: this person before, and I felt very uncomfortable having a

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Speaker 2: Her church also agreed to let us use the space

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Speaker 2: for a major discount, so again it was hard to

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Speaker 2: turn down a money saving opportunity. I told Mark that

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Speaker 2: if I was going to go through with this real wedding,

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Speaker 2: then the guest list needed to be under one hundred

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Speaker 2: or I simply couldn't do it. He agreed, and we

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Speaker 2: Mark and I listed the most important people and came

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Speaker 2: up with about fifty guests. I thought this was perfect,

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Speaker 2: but Ellie lost it. She was horrified that we didn't

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Speaker 2: She insisted that it was her son's wedding and that

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Speaker 3: Girl, I think you literally just contradicted yourself right there.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy your son's day. Yeah, Therefore, you do not

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Speaker 2: need to have a sick It's not really your day exactly.

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Speaker 2: Mark and I explained that I had never met any

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Speaker 2: so none of them could make it to the wedding.

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Speaker 2: Since we invited them, many felt obligated to send us

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Speaker 2: a card with the check slipped in, so in the

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Speaker 2: end it actually worked out nice, but it really said

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Speaker 2: that Ellie felt the need to control our guest list.

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Speaker 2: We really didn't have to plan a lot. We sent

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Speaker 2: out one hundred invites and only around fifty people RSVP'd. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it was a low effort wedding. I'm not a very

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Speaker 2: girly girl, so I decided to order a dress online.

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Speaker 2: This dress was actually a steel No one even guessed

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Speaker 2: it was only fifty dollars. They thought I had spent

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Speaker 1: That's awesome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. I was very proud of my online find.

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Speaker 2: But Ellie was livid. She told me I betrayed her

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Speaker 2: it wasn't personal jo I just didn't enjoy shopping or

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Speaker 2: like that response. She demanded I send her pictures of

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Speaker 2: the wedding. I have no build up for this one,

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Speaker 2: so I'm just gonna come out and say it. Ellie

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Speaker 2: wore white to my wedding. No, Ellie, Ellie, Ellie, where

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Speaker 2: did this come from? Elle?

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Speaker 3: L e?

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Speaker 2: L E? Come on girl? I mean, like did she go?

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Speaker 2: She was like, well, if I can't have the wedding

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Speaker 2: Why is this?

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Speaker 3: Literally, in every single story, everybody's wearing white.

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Speaker 2: Law, Yeah, they're always just showing up in white. Why

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Speaker 2: it's like rule number one, wedding rule number one. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Oh man, I showed up but the church early to

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Speaker 2: Made of honor jokingly said she would spill some wine

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Speaker 2: physically push us back into place so she could get

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Speaker 2: her shots too. She also stepped on my dress quite

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Speaker 2: a few times in the process. When confronted about it,

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Speaker 2: with such a long train. Just stand farther away from me, literally,

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Speaker 2: you know what. First of all, I'd be like, okay,

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Speaker 2: stand over there. Sorry, guys, can't get close to me. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And two maybe I don't know, just tell everyone be like, okay, sorry,

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Speaker 2: don't look at mom's phone. Looks like yeah, Like just

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Speaker 2: I don't know, like put her in her place, man, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I would make a big announcement and just be like,

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Speaker 3: all right, everyone, we are paying for this photographer.

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Speaker 2: Let's look at that camera. Yeah, don't get his mom.

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Speaker 2: If you want to take the pictures after this, fine,

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Speaker 2: but like, do not look at mother.

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Speaker 1: Law.

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Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta get out of the way, girl. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: At the actual ceremony, Ellie was mostly behaved. She sat

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Speaker 2: so I can't complain. Before the reception could even begin,

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Speaker 2: I was absolutely horrified and couldn't even speak. I curled

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Good damn man, absolutely inappropriate. I wouldn't. I wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: I'd be like, I'm never talking to your mom again, dude. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: for our honeymoon. By the way, you shouldn't ignore the

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Speaker 2: you have any final thoughts though? I just like, wow, Wow, It's.

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Speaker 3: Just like I've had a lot of moments in my

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Speaker 2: And I like, yes, this the opportunity to really Yeah,

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Speaker 2: take that what so I can't get from your new daughter? Yeah, sorry,

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Speaker 2: Ellie texting us every day demanding pictures. Sometimes we would reply,

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Speaker 2: sometimes not, usually not. We enjoyed our Ellie free week.

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Speaker 2: She was never the same after the engagement was on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my sister in law disinvited my wife from her baby.

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Speaker 2: Shower over a joke she made. How bad was the joke?

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Speaker 3: She's just really not funny, She's just on fun February seventh,

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Speaker 2: This is a recent one.

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Speaker 3: I'm male thirty, recently married the love of my life,

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Speaker 2: Okay storytelling reread.

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Speaker 3: So, my wife and I went out to eat with

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Speaker 3: She's usually nice and I like her, but she's definitely

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Speaker 3: a beat, she shuts my brother down. No, I'd much

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Speaker 2: Out like you. Okay, that's not that's not like it's

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Speaker 3: That's like a sweet little compliment. No, I wanted to

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Speaker 3: Different A bit of an awkward comment, and my brother

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Speaker 2: Well, now we're now we're dipping into rude.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to I would never want a baby

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Speaker 3: Him exactly exactly, before turning to look directly at me

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Speaker 3: My brother is a very good looking guy, so I

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Speaker 3: get it. But who just says that out loud? My wife,

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Speaker 2: Ever seen what? Okay? But then that it is rude?

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Speaker 2: It is, but she was rude first.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of like that one saying one of

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Speaker 2: No, I've only I know, I know you are, but

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Speaker 3: I know, crazy man. So I chuckled, My brother laughed,

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Speaker 3: was I. My brother tried to say something, but she

430
00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:41,440
Speaker 3: stormed out. My brother followed her, looking about as confused

431
00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:42,080
Speaker 3: as I felt.

432
00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:43,080
Speaker 2: Fast forward to.

433
00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,879
Speaker 3: Today, sister in law has officially disinvited my wife from

434
00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,600
Speaker 3: the baby shower celebration. My wife says that she doesn't

435
00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,760
Speaker 3: even want to go, which fair enough. My brother is

436
00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:51,720
Speaker 3: devastated and.

437
00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:52,720
Speaker 2: Really wants me to be there.

438
00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:53,080
Speaker 3: Now.

439
00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,040
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. My brother adores me.

440
00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,560
Speaker 3: He's always been my biggest supporter, and he wants me

441
00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,240
Speaker 3: to be a big part of my nephew's life. He's

442
00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,440
Speaker 3: having his first time and this moment is really important

443
00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,560
Speaker 3: to him. I love my brother too and can't see

444
00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,600
Speaker 3: him sad like that. He says that both my wife

445
00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,119
Speaker 3: and sister in law need to apologize eventually, but we

446
00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,120
Speaker 3: shouldn't force it right now and give them some time

447
00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,080
Speaker 3: to cool off. He also thinks that sister in law

448
00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,160
Speaker 3: owes me an apology for what she said, but again,

449
00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,439
Speaker 3: pregnancy hormones or whatever, so he just.

450
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:17,440
Speaker 2: Doesn't want to push it yet.

451
00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,800
Speaker 3: My parents actually side with my wife and think that

452
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,320
Speaker 3: sister in law was out of line first, but they

453
00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,760
Speaker 3: also believe that I shouldn't miss such a huge moment

454
00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,720
Speaker 3: in my brother's life and that we should cut sister

455
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:27,760
Speaker 3: law some slack.

456
00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:28,480
Speaker 2: Because of her pregnancy.

457
00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,280
Speaker 3: So here's my issue. I don't feel right going if

458
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,560
Speaker 3: my wife isn't welcome. I want to support her, but

459
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,960
Speaker 3: I also know that this moment means the world to

460
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,840
Speaker 3: my brother. So if I go, my wife might feel abandoned.

461
00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,520
Speaker 3: If I don't, my brother will feel heartbroken. I feel

462
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:47,359
Speaker 3: completely stuck, and there is a consensus from all the commenters.

463
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 3: People tell OPI to send a gift and to stay

464
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,719
Speaker 3: at a home and we do have an update.

465
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,439
Speaker 2: But what do you think that Opie should do?

466
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 3: Ooh and support the wife or go and support the brother?

467
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,840
Speaker 2: Ooh, ooh? I think you got to talk to your

468
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,240
Speaker 2: wife about that. That's a that's a good yeah. Yeah,

469
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,399
Speaker 2: could always fall back on communication. Yeah, it's like what

470
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,199
Speaker 2: if I you know, what does she want from you?

471
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,239
Speaker 2: And just be like hey, like whatever you want me

472
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,639
Speaker 2: to do here is fine. Yeah, Like I want to

473
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,959
Speaker 2: be there to support my brother, but also you you know,

474
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 2: she's kind of excluding you, right, Uh yeah, talk to

475
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,200
Speaker 2: the wife. Yeah, I definitely talk to the wife.

476
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:26,640
Speaker 3: I feel like either way both people might understand your position.

477
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I would probably support going to

478
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,880
Speaker 2: the brother. Oh yeah, I would say so. Yeah. It's

479
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,400
Speaker 2: it's complican. Okay, my adhd Hay medication is not kicked

480
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 2: in yet. I need keffy.

481
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 3: But there is an update, so February thirteenth. Now I'm

482
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,640
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, six days later. Thanks everyone for the replies.

483
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 3: I think I read almost every single one. I really

484
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 3: appreciated the different perspectives. So now some clarifications. My wife

485
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 3: is not a mean First, she made a joke in

486
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 3: the moment, although I admit that it wasn't a great

487
00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 3: joke given the sensitivity of the situation. But she's genuinely

488
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 3: one of the kindest, most caring people I know. That's

489
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,919
Speaker 3: one of the reasons I love her so much. I

490
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,119
Speaker 3: don't think my brother did anything wrong by bringing up

491
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 3: the topic. We were reminiscing about childhood, and he probably

492
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 3: got nostalgic about having his little brother following him everywhere.

493
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 3: My brother and I resemble each other quite a bit,

494
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 3: though he's definitely the better looking one. Funny how that works.

495
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 3: And just to be clear, that doesn't mean I'm insecure.

496
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,640
Speaker 3: If anything, he's the outlier. He's one of those people who.

497
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:25,639
Speaker 2: Naturally turns heads.

498
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 3: Even when we were younger, he'd get random girls hitting

499
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 3: on him wherever we went. It was such a running

500
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 3: joke in our family that even my parents would tease

501
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 3: him about it. The entire conversation lasted less than five

502
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:35,920
Speaker 3: minutes and.

503
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 2: Escalated very quickly.

504
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 3: I agree with the comments that all of us should

505
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 3: have handled the situation better, but easier to.

506
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 2: Say that in hindsight.

507
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 3: In real time, things just got out of hand very quickly.

508
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 3: I'm sure that all of us regret what we said

509
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 3: in the moment, except for the brother. The brother, he

510
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 3: said nothing wrong. Yeah, he was just like, yeah, I

511
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 3: would love op to.

512
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 2: Be this kid that look like ope. Yeah, that was

513
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 2: such like a like a brother.

514
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, just like he like grabs mother's shouldice as long

515
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,160
Speaker 3: as he could look like my brother right here.

516
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 2: My brother right.

517
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 3: And then it's like oh, thanks man, and then the

518
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 3: after school special music plays, and then it's really sweets

519
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 3: and a wholesome moment. But then they had to row

520
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 3: it credits. But now for the actual update. I told

521
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 3: my wife that I wouldn't go unless she was also invited.

522
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 3: She immediately told me that she didn't want to be

523
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 3: the reason that I missed it, and that I should go.

524
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 2: If I wanted to, there you go. Communication.

525
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 3: She even said that she'd be willing to apologize if

526
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 3: my sister in law was open to it, but that

527
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 3: she wouldn't attend if even reinvited because she'd feel uncomfortable.

528
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 3: I told her I appreciated that, but for me, it

529
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 3: was both of us or none of us. Then I

530
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 3: called my brother, and this is where I have to

531
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 3: give him a lot of credit, because I know he

532
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 3: was upset. He had really wanted me there, and I

533
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 3: could hear the disappointment in his voice. But instead of pushing,

534
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 3: he just said, I get it, man, don't worry about it.

535
00:23:55,280 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 2: Just brothers. So sad brothers. You can't can't beat upon man.

536
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 2: I would go with the wife's thing. That seems like,

537
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. I know, it's his choice.

538
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was very uncomfortable being there, being like, yeah,

539
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 3: I'm here alone, I'm here alone.

540
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 2: He had invited my wife.

541
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 3: Someone didn't like someone couldn't wait what is it?

542
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 2: Someone could dish it out, but they couldn't take it exactly.

543
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 3: Someone not gonna name any names, but anyway, but yeah, dang,

544
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 3: that's that's really hard man.

545
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 2: That's tough. I know that wasn't easy for him today.

546
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 3: He had to balance keeping things calm with his wife

547
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 3: while also wanting his brother by his side.

548
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 2: But he didn't guilt.

549
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,959
Speaker 3: Trippy didn't try to convince me otherwise. He just let

550
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 3: me make my own choice. He even said, don't worry.

551
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 3: We'll save you guys some food and I'll drop it

552
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 3: off later. I offered to help with set up if

553
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,679
Speaker 3: he needed it, and told him to say that I

554
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 3: have the VID to avoid awkward questions.

555
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 2: He just laughed and said, got it.

556
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 3: You caught the world's shortest VID, just long enough for

557
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 3: the baby shower, but miraculously covered the next day. Now

558
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 3: here's her thing got a bit more complicated. My mom

559
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 3: was not happy with him for not sorting this out earlier.

560
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 3: She felt like he should have stepped in and made

561
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 3: peace before it got to the point where my wife

562
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 3: was uninvited. But my parents didn't say anything directly because

563
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 3: they didn't want to get involved.

564
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 2: In the drama. I think that really weighed on him.

565
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 3: He was already trying to navigate a tough situation, and

566
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 3: now he had her parents silently judging him too. It

567
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 3: put him in an impossible position, trying to be a

568
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 3: good husband, a good brother, and a good son all

569
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 3: at once.

570
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 2: A couple of.

571
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 3: Days passed with no further drama. Then something unexpected happened.

572
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 3: My wife got a call from my sister in law.

573
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 3: At first, my wife panicked, thinking that she was about

574
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 3: to get yelled at it.

575
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 2: Instead, they actually had a really good conversation.

576
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 3: I overheard bits of it, including my wife saying, no,

577
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 3: you're gorgeous.

578
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 2: She's like, no, no, no to me, like you're ugly. I

579
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 2: was just trying to stand out like your gorgeous.

580
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,199
Speaker 3: I was just throwing it back at you, all right.

581
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 3: I thought you could take it, which made me laugh

582
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 3: a little. After the call, my wife told me that

583
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,360
Speaker 3: sister in law actually apologized. First, she admitted that she'd

584
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 3: been feeling really self conscious about her looks during pregnancy

585
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 3: and that my wife's joke hit a sore spot. A

586
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 3: little later, my brother called me. He told me that

587
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 3: he had gently talked to sister in law and helped

588
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,479
Speaker 3: her see that things had gotten out of hand. He

589
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 3: also told me that knowing my wife was willing to

590
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 3: apologize had made a huge difference, and then he admitted something.

591
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 3: He had wanted to fix things before the baby shower,

592
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 3: but he knew that his wife was already under a

593
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 3: lot of stress. He didn't want to add more pressure

594
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,719
Speaker 3: on her while she was in the middle of planning.

595
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 2: And honestly, I respect that, I respect all the people

596
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 2: in the story. I feel like she was just like

597
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 2: dealing with hormones and was like reacted like yeah, I mean,

598
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 2: I feel like I've heard so many stories people who

599
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 2: were pregnant and then like a little comment about their

600
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: appearance like sets them off, you know what I mean?

601
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 3: And that totally makes sense. Totally makes sense. My sister

602
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 3: in law is one of those people who needs everything

603
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 3: to be perfect. Her look, my brother's look, the house,

604
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 3: the decorations, et cetera.

605
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 2: So I can.

606
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 3: Understand that the pressure she must have put on herself,

607
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 3: and my brother knew that pushing her while she was

608
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 3: stressed wouldn't have helped, so he waited and after the event,

609
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 3: when things calmed down, he quietly stepped in and fix things.

610
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 2: So where do things stand now? Things seem good on

611
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 2: the surface.

612
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 3: My wife and sister in law made peace, and my

613
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 3: brother and I are fine. My wife and I have

614
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 3: decided to just be extra sensitive around sister in law

615
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 3: given what she's going through. All in all, the situation

616
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 3: seems to have brought us somewhat closer together. The real

617
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 3: takeaway I have an amazing wife, but her humor could

618
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 3: use some work. Also, my brother ain't too bad side

619
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 3: note speaking of whom. My brother will probably never see

620
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 3: this because he only uses Reddit for sports and news,

621
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 3: or so he says. But in the off chance that

622
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 3: he does, well, guess I'm busted. But since I have

623
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 3: your attention, I'll admit something just this once. You are

624
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 3: the best bro I could have asked for. That time

625
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 3: you helped me for UNI. I don't think you know

626
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 3: how much it really meant to me. And when I

627
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 3: was at a really low point, you stood by me.

628
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever said it, but I've always

629
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 3: appreciated that.

630
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 2: This is so sweet.

631
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm fully imagining after school special like they're

632
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 3: in high school and it's what I got.

633
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 2: Letterman's jackets. Yeah, yeah, Grainy filter on the camera. Oh yeah, yeah,

634
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 2: I'm thinking like full house. They're having like the oh,

635
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 2: what's the moral of the story, and they're like having

636
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 2: a sit down where they're like, why did you feel

637
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,719
Speaker 2: the need to say that, sister in law? Yeah, And

638
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 2: it's just like, I've just been feeling so down recently

639
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 2: and I didn't know how to take it out, and

640
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 2: I ended up taking it out on you, and I'm like, sorry,

641
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 2: it's okay, every exactly.

642
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, of course I wouldn't ever admit this in person,

643
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 3: and I will forever deny I ever wrote this.

644
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 2: By the way, what I.

645
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 3: Will never deny is the fact that you can find

646
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 3: full episodes with more stories just like this one on

647
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 3: the Okay story Time podcast. Just look it up on

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Speaker 2: that's all.

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Speaker 2: Let's read it so edit.

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Speaker 3: Everyone keeps asking why my wife didn't apologize first I

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Speaker 3: thought I made it clear in the post, but maybe not.

659
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 3: My wife was going to apologize, but wanted to check

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Speaker 3: if sister in law was open to it. She had

661
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Speaker 3: just been uninvited, so we had no idea whether my

662
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Speaker 3: sister in law was even open to talking to her.

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Speaker 3: I had told my brother that my wife wanted to apologize,

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Speaker 3: and if he had given us the green light, my

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Speaker 3: wife would have absolutely called and said. My sister in

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Speaker 3: law decided to call once my brother told her that

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Speaker 3: my wife wanted to apologize. That was her being the

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Speaker 2: Dude?

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, Hey, it's Sam.

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Speaker 2: My mother in law has made our lives miserable for years.

678
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 2: We finally cut her off, cut it out. I've been

679
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 2: trying to write the story for like a year. By

680
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 2: the way, this comes from either pick forty nine to

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Speaker 2: go to our slashokey story time. Separate it So. Timeline twelve,

683
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. My husband and I get engaged. Six

684
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. Mother in law is crying in our

685
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: kitchen over a few glasses of wine that she isn't

686
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 2: included in the planning of our wedding. We're saying, husband

687
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,479
Speaker 2: and I planned our own with no help from anyone.

688
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 2: We're in our thirties, we know what we wanted. Eight

689
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. Mother in law wants to plan a huge,

690
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 2: extravagant wedding shower, but my family tradition is that my

691
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 2: aunt throws a small one for the women in our family.

692
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 2: Mother in law is mad. My cousin also throws me

693
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 2: a pizza and adult soda friends shower. Mother in law

694
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 2: is fuming. Mother in law throws her own shower for

695
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 2: her side of the family, but is mad she wasn't

696
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 2: invited to the other showers. Eight twenty twenty two. Mother

697
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 2: in law says she isn't attending our wedding if her

698
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 2: sister is invited. My husband's aunt, who we are close with,

699
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 2: and her son our cousin is standing up. We tell

700
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 2: her fine, then don't come. She digs in and then

701
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 2: aunt ends up passing away of an aneurysm. Like two

702
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 2: months before a wedding. She's off the hook. Oh my god,

703
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 2: that's a terrible way to be off the hook. That's crazy.

704
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 2: I can't imagine being like, oh, well, now I can

705
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 2: go to the wedding. Yes, my sister's gone. Yep, that's wild. Eleven,

706
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. Our wedding is around the corner. I

707
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: asked mother in law if she wanted to come over

708
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: with my bridesmaids to get her hair and makeup done.

709
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: Mother in law accepts and then gets mad that I

710
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: didn't give her the time slot she wanted. I gave

711
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 2: her the last one since she was driving from out

712
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 2: of state and we were taking pics before the wedding,

713
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 2: so I needed to get my girls out. She then

714
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 2: says she won't be getting air and makeup done with us,

715
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 2: then accuses me of not inviting her over before the

716
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 2: wedding to hang out. Then she decides to dress like

717
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: she's attending a funeral to our wedding. Dressed like a

718
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 2: million bucks to sister in law's wedding. Lol. Also tried

719
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 2: to wear white sister in law's wedding. If that paints

720
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 2: the picture any brighter, of course, yeah, excellly. You know,

721
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 2: you know I'd take funeral over wears white to the wedding. Yeah, honestly,

722
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 2: it's like like, you can wear I've wore, you can

723
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 2: wear black dresses to weddings. You can wear black. I

724
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 2: wore black dress to wedding. It could be fun if

725
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 2: she just went like full classic funeral. She's got like

726
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 2: like large hat and like bale, yeah, and just tissues

727
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: a lot of Yeah, she's just crying the whole entire time.

728
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: Twelve twenty twenty two to ten twenty twenty three. Fairly

729
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 2: quiet for us, but she has drama with other family.

730
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: Ten twenty twenty three, We announce our pregnancy to family.

731
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 2: Mother in law acts less than enthused, never really asks

732
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: about it, never asks how we're doing. A radio silence.

733
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 2: Twelve twenty twenty three. Mother in law attempts to lift

734
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 2: my shirt at Christmas and touch my belly because her

735
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 2: grandbaby's in there.

736
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 3: What No, what I'd be like, No, don't touching the

737
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 3: belly is like enough, but lifting the shirt, lifting the

738
00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 3: shirt to belly.

739
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, even worse. I was a very hands off person

740
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 2: and private about my body and pregnancy till the end

741
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 2: when I couldn't hide it. I also had an ant

742
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 2: natal depression in the first and early second trimester, so

743
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 2: I was struggling. Note mother in law is always invited

744
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 2: to my family's side for holidays, Thanksgiving, Christmas, et cetera.

745
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 2: To twenty twenty four, my mom's sister and cousins throw

746
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 2: my baby shower. My sister asks mother in law if

747
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 2: she's coming. She RSVPs yes, But then a week or

748
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 2: so later she RSVPs no because she had a combo

749
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 2: with my husband about how mad she is that nobody

750
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 2: asked her to plan a shower. What is with this

751
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 2: girl and planning showers. She's like, I have to plan

752
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 2: all of them. No one else can plan these showers. Never, never, never.

753
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 2: Mother in law does not work and lives in a

754
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 2: different state. That's why she needs to plan these showers.

755
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 2: She's like, I don't know anything else to do. I'm bored.

756
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: I'm bored. Let me hit your showers. I'll do any

757
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 2: type of shower, engagement, wedding, regular, just a regular shower.

758
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 2: I do excellent bubble bags. Mother in law planned our

759
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 2: wedding shower with their ex husband's my father in law's money.

760
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 2: Three twenty four, mother in law allegedly left a gift

761
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: at father in law's house for us. After she didn't

762
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 2: attend our shower. We attempted to call her to say

763
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 2: thank you. She didn't answer, just to find out later

764
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 2: she was at my sister in law's and purposely didn't answer,

765
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: then bragged his sister in law about it. Why are

766
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 2: you playing coy? They're trying to thank you for your gift,

767
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 2: and you're like, well, I didn't answer them. They want

768
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 2: me so bad. I wrote her thank you card for

769
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: the items and said our baby was going to be

770
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 2: the best dressed on the block, and how excited we

771
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 2: were to wear these clothes. Some included mommy and daddy stuff.

772
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 2: And then three twenty twenty four, mother in law sends

773
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 2: the thank you card back. The card is addressed to

774
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 2: my husband and myself using my maiden name. She crosses

775
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 2: off the word mom that we wrote, and then wrote

776
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: a nasty message on the inside cover of the card.

777
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 2: She must have regretted it later because she blacked everything

778
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 2: out in permanent marker, making it allegible. What me, being

779
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 2: the FBI agent that I am, rubbed the black outside

780
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 2: to reveal the message. She said something along the lines

781
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 2: of I did not send you those clothes. You must

782
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 2: be mistaken and signed her name. Three twenty twenty four,

783
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 2: our son is born and our entire family meets him

784
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 2: except her. She doesn't reach out. All she does is

785
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 2: respond to a text in the family group chat that

786
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 2: our son has arrived with beautiful baby. Six twenty twenty four.

787
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 2: Husband tells mother in law she will be able to

788
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 2: meet him after she clears the air with us meet

789
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 2: the baby, presumably. Seven twenty twenty four, we baptize our

790
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 2: son and she's mad she wasn't invited, literally sobbing and screaming.

791
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 2: According to the family, Husband and I decide that his

792
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 2: baptism is an inappropriate time for her to meet him

793
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 2: because she has been very public about how she treated us,

794
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 2: and her showing up would take away from his day.

795
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, she's not tried to be around him

796
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 2: at all before this. Yeah, yeah, I'm still stuck on

797
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 2: that card. That's crazy.

798
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 3: She wrote some sort of like petty message on the

799
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 3: card and then blacked it out, and then sends it anyway.

800
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 3: It's like, if you regretted what you wrote, you don't

801
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 3: have to send it back. They weren't expecting you to

802
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 3: return their thanks. They're thank card. It's like it's like

803
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 3: if you're texting someone and you make a typo and

804
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 3: then you send it anyway and then like like send

805
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: another thing at the time.

806
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 2: It's like you can't just fix it while it was

807
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 2: still said, like while you're in a typo, you know what.

808
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 2: But I do do that sometimes. I mean sometimes like yeah,

809
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 2: I just like send it.

810
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 3: But if you like really cared about, like I don't know,

811
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 3: making a good impression or something like that, it's just

812
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 3: like take a second.

813
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 2: But yeah, this is honestly, this is much worse. This

814
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: is different than a text because it's like, yeah, this

815
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 2: is effort. You had to you had to get a

816
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 2: stamp for that. Yeah, you need to pay money for that.

817
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

818
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,439
Speaker 2: Eight twenty twenty four, the day I go back to work,

819
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 2: I am a teacher. She effing shows up at her

820
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,919
Speaker 2: home unannounced, where my husband and son are the audacity.

821
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 2: I am on fire, fuming about the situation that she

822
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 2: planned this. Husband and father in law didn't think it

823
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 2: was maliciously planned, but it totally was. Dear husband and

824
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 2: I decided to call her to attempt to clear the

825
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 2: air and make it very clear that she cannot just

826
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 2: show up. None of our family ever just drop in.

827
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 2: During this phone call, she goes all the way back

828
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 2: to the wedding showers, et cetera, and plays the blame game.

829
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 2: The last words I said to her were that her

830
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 2: actions are indirectly impacting her grandson. She responds with Opie,

831
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 2: You're an affing witch, and my husband hung up on her.

832
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 2: That was the last we spoke. Twelve, twenty twenty four.

833
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 2: We have husband's whole family over for Christmas Eve, including

834
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,479
Speaker 2: my whole family. Mother in law wasn't invited. My parents

835
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 2: give gifts to all children who attend, so they got

836
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 2: one for her other granddaughter. On Christmas Day, mother in

837
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 2: law shows up at brother in law's house granddaughters to

838
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 2: drop off gifts. Brother in law invites mother in law in.

839
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 2: Mother in law informs brother in law she is not

840
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 2: staying and that Olpie's parents should be her new grandparents.

841
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 2: Tell granddaughter, I'm passed away. Scrawl it crazy crazy. Imagine

842
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 2: being so jealous of a family that you would intentionally

843
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 2: hurt your granddaughter. On Christmas to twenty twenty four, granddaughter's

844
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 2: sixth birthday, mother in law isn't invited due to her

845
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,959
Speaker 2: Christmas behavior. Family tells us. Mother in law finds out

846
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 2: and invites herself. Husband decides we will not go to

847
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 2: the party because she will act like nothing happened and

848
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 2: attempt to interact with us and our son without apologizing.

849
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: We will never get an apology. I said, let's go

850
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 2: because we cannot let her dictate our life. We did

851
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 2: not go, and we feel as though we made the

852
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 2: best decision for our family to keep our son and

853
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 2: ourselves away from her, as much as we wanted to

854
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 2: be there for our niece. By the way, you can

855
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 2: be there for us by listening to full episodes of

856
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 2: stories just like this. Just go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts,

857
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,479
Speaker 2: or iHeartRadio and search a booka storytime. Just do witch,

858
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: just do it. But there is a little bit left

859
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 2: of the story. Do you have me? Final thoughts? I

860
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 2: just with people like this, you just can't win. You

861
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 2: can't win.

862
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 3: You just they just exist in their own little worlds that,

863
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,399
Speaker 3: unfortunately you have to deal with every now and then.

864
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's just very frustrating. Indeed, it is absolutely

865
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: It's like she's just gonna make a problem over everything.

866
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so you just kind of have to distance

867
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 2: yourself from her. Yeah. Unfortunately, that's where we stand for now.

868
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 2: She is truly the gift that keeps on given. I

869
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 2: will update as needed. Am I crazy at this point?

870
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 2: I I don't want an apology. I literally never want

871
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 2: to see her again. I never want her around my

872
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,439
Speaker 2: family or my son. She's not allowed to psychologically harm

873
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 2: my son because she's mad at me or my husband.

874
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: If it's up to me, it will never happen, And

875
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 2: comments common one has brother in law told her that

876
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 2: you and dear husband are attending, she may decide to skip,

877
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 2: as last time she told you to tell your grandchild

878
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 2: that she was passed away and called you a terrible name.

879
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: If he has and she's risen from the past away,

880
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 2: ask him to have her come slightly later than you

881
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 2: so you can visit family and bring a cupcake or

882
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 2: so wish her happy birthday, and leave to put your

883
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 2: baby to bed before the wicked one shows up. Obie says,

884
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 2: I have no idea. If they told her that we

885
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 2: were going to attend, she wasn't invited, and it was

886
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 2: last Saturday, but they weren't us that she invited herself.

887
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 2: She indeed rose from the past away. Hello, I wish

888
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 2: we went because I wanted to be clear that we

889
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 2: are united and she isn't dictating our life or relationship,

890
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 2: and that she isn't welcome in our son's life until

891
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 2: Slash if ever something changes. Slash a sincere apology. Another

892
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 2: reply says, you should have gone and let your mom

893
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 2: babysit your baby while you were there, if you were

894
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 2: comfortable with that. I mean, I think she wanted to

895
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 2: show up so she could see your baby. Imagine her

896
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 2: reaction when she realizes her whole plan was for nothing

897
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 2: and everything blew up in her face. Obie says, I know,

898
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 2: so I thought of this too. Unfortunately, my father in

899
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 2: law and other family members loved to guilt trip by

900
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,959
Speaker 2: saying things like I would really love to see both

901
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 2: of my grandkids playing together. This drives me nuts. But

902
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 2: also they would understand if we didn't bring our son,

903
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 2: my mom would one hundred percent babysit for us and

904
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 2: has done this for past events, and that is the

905
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 2: end of that story. Wow, but yeah, I think you

906
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 2: just gotta go low contech with your mom. Yeah, you

907
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 2: just gotta get away from those people.

908
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 3: You can't really, it's you can't put in the effort

909
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 3: with those people because it's just so exhausting. Yeah, getting

910
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 3: all of that craziness back. So just just get away.

911
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 3: At least you got another mom in the family. That's normal. Yeah,

912
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 3: s good mom, got a good mom. Yeah, but that

913
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 3: is the end of that story.

914
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: My family hit a shocking secret about my wedding venue

915
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: and it broke us.

916
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 2: Was the secret that they suck?

917
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: I want to apologize for how long this ended up getting.

918
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,439
Speaker 1: It was cathartic for me to let it all out

919
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: and explain my side, but I got a little carried away.

920
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: I twenty six female, am getting married this year to

921
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: my fiance, twenty seven male, who I've been with for

922
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: eight years. By the way, this comes from user Troubled

923
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: Bride throwaway and if you want to submit your own stories,

924
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: go to the r slash Okay storytime sub run it.

925
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: So we have been engaged for a few years now.

926
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: The initial venue we found was a state over and

927
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: was owned by a friend of my biofather. My relationships

928
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: with my biofather and his family have always been complicated,

929
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: but at the time we were on good terms and

930
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: the venue was close to where they lived, so I

931
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: was hoping that would bring us closer. The venue was

932
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: beautiful and we were able to book most of our

933
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 1: vendors through their preferred vendor network. We paid our five

934
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 1: hundred dollars deposit and we had it booked a year

935
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: and a half before our initial wedding date. As we

936
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: approached the seven month mark, my fiance and I decided

937
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: it would be best to put off the wedding for

938
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: one more year so we could finish up college and

939
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: have more time to save. He reached out to the

940
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: venue owner and he said he would pencil in a

941
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: date change for us no problem. During the call, I

942
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: mentioned I was going to reach out to the other

943
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 1: two preferred vendors we had booked, and the owner let

944
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: them know that they no longer work with those vendors

945
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: due to some disputes. He advised us to seek different vendors.

946
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: He also said he would still love to work with

947
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 1: us though, and is happy we are still interested in

948
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: having our wedding at their venue. That comment gave me

949
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: a bit of a weird vibe, but I thanked him

950
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 1: for the information and went to call my biofather's family

951
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: to give them the heads up. My biofather's reaction at

952
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: the time was a little weird. When we first booked

953
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 1: the venue, he was so excited, he acted very proud

954
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 1: that he was the one who made it happen by

955
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: referring us to said venue. But on this call, he

956
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, in that case, have you considered doing

957
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: a different venue altogether, maybe something closer to where you

958
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 1: live currently. I thought the change of pace was odd

959
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 1: and uncharacteristic of him, but I didn't say anything at

960
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: the time. I told him no and that I still

961
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: liked the venue, and that was the end of that. Hmmm.

962
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 2: So he's trying to get up you to change her mind,

963
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 2: but without actually telling her why.

964
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: Like, what happened here?

965
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 2: What?

966
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: What could have possibly happened?

967
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:13,720
Speaker 2: Someone? Someone? They're operating an illegal substance lab.

968
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: I think there was some sort of incident that involved

969
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: a police prison. Maybe the corner mmmmmm, I don't know.

970
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: There could be something that really bad that happened. Now

971
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: they've got a spooky.

972
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,280
Speaker 2: Ghost there, I think, so it's haunted.

973
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: Freshly haunted now that we moved the date. I remembered

974
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: a photographer that we really liked who was not available

975
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: for our original date, and I decided to reach out

976
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: to him to see if he was available for our

977
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: new date. The photographer ended up sending us a response

978
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: about a week later, essentially saying that he was available

979
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 1: and would love to work with us, but he was

980
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: not comfortable shooting at the venue, stating one of the

981
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: owners is someone who has been involved in some pretty

982
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: wildly inappropriate and illegal activities.

983
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so that's why the owner email them was like, Wow,

984
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 2: like I really appreciative, appreciative that you still want to

985
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: work with us, That's why you like.

986
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: The photographer also let us know he wasn't judging us

987
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: for using that venue, but was just not willing to

988
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: associate his name with them. Needless to say, I was

989
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: confused as I responded, way, what legal activity? This is

990
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: the first we're hearing of this, and now I'm a

991
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: bit alarmed. What am I missing? In the response I got,

992
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: the vendor apologized for stirring things up and sent me

993
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: a link with two articles. The first one was from

994
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: twenty twenty and was about the owner my biofather's friend oooo.

995
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: It stated that he was caught and arrested in a

996
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: cp sting trying to meet up with a minor who

997
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:45,720
Speaker 1: was a cop posing as one near a local school.

998
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: The second one was actually for a close relative of

999
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,720
Speaker 1: my biofather's friend, who was the co owner of the venue.

1000
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: An article from twenty twenty four stated he was arrested

1001
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: for unlawful use of a weapon DUI, menacing, and criminal

1002
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: trespass after wasted waving around a bang bang and cunning

1003
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: people unprovoked at a convenience store. I was shocked and horrified.

1004
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: I thanked the photographer and continued to do more research,

1005
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: and I uncovered some more really concerning reviews regarding the

1006
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: owner's conduct. I called my biofather to give him the

1007
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: heads up about his friend, and that was when he

1008
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: told me that they had known for over a week.

1009
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: I felt hurt that they hadn't said anything and expressed that,

1010
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: but also tried to empathize with them and said that

1011
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: I wish I could have heard from them. I understand

1012
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: that they didn't have much time to process the information either,

1013
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: and that the decision of whether or not to tell

1014
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 1: me would have put them in a hard spot. I said,

1015
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: I just need a little bit of space to process

1016
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: the information, but that I am not mad, just disappointed, kind.

1017
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 2: Of shocking that they only just learned about this like

1018
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 2: a week ago.

1019
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 1: I mean like, yeah, I don't know.

1020
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 2: I mean, we don't know how long the biofather has

1021
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 2: been friends with these people.

1022
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: But like, there's plenty of different ways that you could

1023
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 1: not know this about somebody who you've recently become friends with,

1024
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: recently mad or whatever.

1025
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 2: Just like I'm like, I don't understand because I feel like,

1026
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 2: let's say biofather is friends with these people. They say,

1027
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 2: Bio's father's talking about how his daughter's getting married. The

1028
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 2: friend is like, oh, we have a wedding venue. Actually

1029
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 2: he doesn't. The bio father doesn't look up any of this. No,

1030
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, some people don't do any of that. Some

1031
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 2: people don't look stuff up. I feel like this has

1032
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 2: got to be the first thing that would come up.

1033
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 2: You know, like if you even if you.

1034
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 1: Were just looking up on a website, you could probably

1035
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: like there's probably some kind of service you can pay

1036
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 1: to like push things down the Google search list. Yeah,

1037
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 1: you know, I have one idea though, weird. I said,

1038
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: I just needed a little bit of space to process

1039
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: the information. But then I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed.

1040
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 1: When I got off the phone, I went to share

1041
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: the news with my stepsister, who I considered a very

1042
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: close friend and was even one of my bridesmaids. I

1043
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: texted her saying, so might not be using the venue anymore.

1044
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: She was probably with, yeah. Why I called her at

1045
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 1: this point because it was easier and said, because it

1046
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: sounds like the venue owner is a PDF file and

1047
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: the other venue owner is a six shooter wheelden psycho.

1048
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: And her response was, Oh, what drove you to that conclusion.

1049
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,479
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but I expected a very

1050
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: different reaction. Her lack of surprise clued me in immediately,

1051
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: and I said, you already knew that, didn't you.

1052
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 2: Yep.

1053
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: Turns out she had known for over a month and

1054
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 1: didn't say anything. To be honest, I wasn't surprised my

1055
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: biofather and stepmother didn't say anything, but I considered stepsister

1056
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: a very close friend and it hurt my feelings a

1057
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: lot that she didn't say anything. I also found out

1058
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 1: that my biofather and stepmother knew at least a month.

1059
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: They did aforehand as My stepsister brought both articles to

1060
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: them when she found out, and they convinced her not

1061
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: to say anything. Why are they doing this?

1062
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 2: I don't understand because they don't want you. They didn't

1063
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 2: like your father tried to say, hey, I don't want

1064
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 2: you to you know, like maybe you should find a

1065
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 2: new venue. So I don't understand why they kept a secret.

1066
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: I mean, like, is it from a place of like,

1067
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: we don't want to warn the wedding. She liked you

1068
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: so much, we can separate the art from the artist.

1069
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 1: That's so sorry. It's like, yeah, the people who run

1070
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: this place are literals, but so weird. Your property is

1071
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 1: so nice. I don't know, so weird, don't I wouldn't

1072
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: want to support people who have this behavior. Old track record.

1073
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 3: No.

1074
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: I got off the phone because I was pretty upset

1075
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: and I didn't want to take it out on her.

1076
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: But I let her know that I didn't blame her

1077
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: and I still loved her. I just needed a little

1078
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: bit to collect my feelings. After that, she talked a

1079
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: bit more over text. She let me know that she

1080
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: really did want to tell me and that it was

1081
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 1: weighing on her a lot, but she was afraid because

1082
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 1: she didn't want to be cut off by the family,

1083
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: and her mother kept bullying her and telling her I

1084
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 1: would hate her for digging up derret on my venue.

1085
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,919
Speaker 1: She sent screenshots of the messages from them, which did

1086
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: in fact confirm her story. I told her I acknowledged that,

1087
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 1: and that I just wish my feelings would have been

1088
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,240
Speaker 1: considered first. I wish that I was given a choice

1089
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: and that you could have trusted me enough to come

1090
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: to me first. I ended the interaction by saying that

1091
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: I just needed to step away for a bit because

1092
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: my head was spinning, but that I still love and

1093
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: care about her. I didn't want to lash out at her,

1094
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: so I told her we could talk about it some

1095
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: other time and reassured her again that I still love her.

1096
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: She responded with, Okay, I love him. I'll be here

1097
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: when you're ready to talk. I'm sorry you've had a

1098
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 1: bad day and that this contributed to that. I thought

1099
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: that was the end of that, but not too long

1100
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 1: after this, I then get a message from my step

1101
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: mom saying, just to be clear, I was not told

1102
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: that this man was a PDF file. I was told

1103
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: that the covenue owner had a fight in a parking

1104
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: lot while wasted and he had ap with him or

1105
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: something like that. I would have never told anyone not

1106
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: to tell you. The venue owner did that and to

1107
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: keep it a secret. I just didn't want your dream

1108
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: wedding to be ruined over a fight in a parking lot.

1109
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: Good Night, I love you, twitch, I responded, I love

1110
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:43,919
Speaker 1: you too. I just need some space for a while

1111
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: to cool down. Good night. Shortly after I sent that message,

1112
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: my bile father called me and told me my stepmother

1113
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: was freaking out about me being mad about the situation.

1114
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 1: Which can't you just why can't people ever respect the

1115
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: Yeah whatever, I just needed a minute to cool I

1116
00:49:58,719 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: hope he is being.

1117
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 2: So inc 'redibly nice about the situation, especially when they

1118
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 2: all lied to her. Yeah, and I'll be He's like, yeah, no,

1119
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 2: where I get it. Just need a moment, and they're like.

1120
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: Like shut up, you know, yeah, just come on, come on.

1121
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 1: He said I needed to message her and let her

1122
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,760
Speaker 1: know I wasn't upset and that it wasn't her fault

1123
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 1: so she would stop freaking out because it was bad

1124
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: for her health. To keep the peace. I ended up

1125
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: messaging her the following me, I'm not mad at you.

1126
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: I don't blame you for anything. I know you had

1127
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: good intentions. I just feel a bit humiliated that I

1128
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: had to find out from a photographer. I'm glad I

1129
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: found out before Save the Dates went out, because if

1130
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: anyone looked at the reviews and saw the part where

1131
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,720
Speaker 1: it said, and please, for the love of sanity, google

1132
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: search the venue owner's full name, state, and city, this

1133
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: venue is not child friendly. It is not family friendly.

1134
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: I would have been mortified, even more so if they

1135
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: did google it and found the articles I did. I'm

1136
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: dealing with a lot of complicated emotions right now, and

1137
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: I wish I had been told by my family instead

1138
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: of finding out this way. It could have become a

1139
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: really bad situation. But I also understand it can be

1140
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 1: hard to broach the topic. I just need some time

1141
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: to process thoughts. I'm not mad at you, though, just

1142
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: my situation as a whole. I'm not mad at you

1143
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 1: at all. My biggest concern was the pdf file thing.

1144
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: I get how you would not want to ruin my

1145
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: day over a parking lot brawl. This was not my concern.

1146
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: I mostly hurt by the other part. And I know

1147
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: that you would have told me had you known. She responded,

1148
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: with okay, honey, and I'm not happy about this whole

1149
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: situation myself. I'm sure you're shocked and devastated. I don't

1150
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: know what to say, but this is exactly what I

1151
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: was hoping wasn't going to happen. I just didn't know

1152
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: the second piece of this and was getting really confused.

1153
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 1: Good night. After that, I sulked with my fiance for

1154
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: a while and then went to bed because I had

1155
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 1: to drive several hours for a work trip the next day.

1156
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: While I was driving, my biofather started blowing up my phone.

1157
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 1: Biofather said, good morning again. I'm truly sorry. I hope

1158
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: this doesn't create resentment towards us. We wanted to figure

1159
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: out how to approach you. Stepsister didn't say anything because

1160
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: I had asked her to let me deal with it.

1161
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: And again Stepmom was not aware. She did know beforehand,

1162
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: which was proven later in screenshots between her and stepsister,

1163
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 1: but at the time I'm getting so much conflicting info

1164
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 1: that I didn't clock the timeline until later. We didn't

1165
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: want you to lose your deposit, and I was under

1166
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: the impression that you had put down forty five hundred

1167
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: as a deposit, and we were devastated to think you

1168
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 1: would lose your deposit. No other venue lined up, and

1169
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: we had no clue how to fix it. Again, we

1170
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: had your best interest at heart, and we didn't know

1171
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: how to tell you without ruining your wedding. This is,

1172
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: this is so much.

1173
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,439
Speaker 2: So extra literally could they said so like, I'm so

1174
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 2: sorry we made a bad call. We will do you know,

1175
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 2: whatever needs to be done to help you fix all

1176
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 2: this mess.

1177
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: Could have just been that you just say ye.

1178
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 2: It was like, are you mad at us? Are you

1179
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 2: mad at us?

1180
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:33,760
Speaker 1: So I'm sorry?

1181
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 2: This was all the reasons, here's all the excuses. Are

1182
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 2: you mad at us?

1183
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: It's the same. Yes, for baby, I have bad news.

1184
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 1: You're not gonna want to use your wedding anymore. Your

1185
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,879
Speaker 1: wedding venue, you're not gonna want to use it any Why. Well,

1186
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: the venue owner has some extremely troubling behavior. Boom boom done.

1187
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: When I didn't respond because I was in and out

1188
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: of meetings, he forward me a message of his correspondence

1189
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: with my step sister. My god, it came through all

1190
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:58,919
Speaker 1: as one text message, and I didn't have the time

1191
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: to read the whole thing until much later. But essentially

1192
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: it was them pressuring my sister not to say anything,

1193
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: and pretty much bullying her into thinking I would hate her.

1194
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 1: She would be doing nothing but ruining everything I worked

1195
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: for if she told me, then my biofather continues, this

1196
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,479
Speaker 1: is the conversation that occurred when we found out about

1197
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: the parking lot incident. After that was when I looked

1198
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: him up online and found the article. This will show

1199
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: you that we were all trying to figure out what

1200
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: to do present this issue to you. This conversation happened

1201
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: on April the ninth. We didn't even have time to

1202
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: process it ourselves and try to figure out what to

1203
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 1: help you with. So all this that you wish your

1204
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: family would have told you, and all your embarrassed and

1205
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,439
Speaker 1: all that, guess what, we were trying to look out

1206
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: for you. So if you can't see that, then that's

1207
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: on you.

1208
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 2: And now now they're blaming OP. Now it's circled back

1209
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 2: from an apology into just blaming OP. Dude. I would

1210
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 2: be like, hey, I really didn't care before, Please leave

1211
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:48,720
Speaker 2: me alone.

1212
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: What's that sound digging that hole, digging that hole extra

1213
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: extra deep.

1214
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like, oh, we didn't know about the dirts.

1215
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 1: We just kept digging and honestly. Again, the solution is

1216
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: just go, oh my god, I just found out something

1217
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: that you're gonna be upset about, but you have to

1218
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 1: know it's true anyway. I admittedly did not read that

1219
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 1: whole text either until a while later, but I didn't

1220
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: want to make the situation worse, so I responded as

1221
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: quickly as I could with Hey, I'm just about to

1222
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: jump in a meeting. I was driving when your first

1223
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: message came through, and have been in and out of

1224
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: appointments and meetings since, so I haven't had the time

1225
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: to respond. But I appreciate the apology and I get

1226
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: y'all were looking out for me. Just needed a bit

1227
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 1: to process and plan the next Stepps love ya, to

1228
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 1: which he just responded by sending me his last paragraph again. Eventually,

1229
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,879
Speaker 1: I was off work and called him, which basically turned

1230
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 1: into me apologizing forever, saying I was upset and again.

1231
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 1: I thought that was the end of that, but then

1232
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: the next day, in the middle of dealing with the

1233
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: crisis at work, I randomly get a text from my

1234
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: stepmother saying you and stepsister's drama has now caused me

1235
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: great distress. I really don't want to hear from either

1236
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 1: of you. You guys really need to grow up. The

1237
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: way that you pretended that you didn't know stepsister knew

1238
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,720
Speaker 1: just to trick her just shows that you're craving drama.

1239
00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: I want no part of any of this anymore, and

1240
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: it has handedly destroyed my relationship with my family member.

1241
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: The news should have been handled in a mature way.

1242
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: You should have addressed the situation and been honest. Because

1243
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 1: of what you did, stepsister and I are at each

1244
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: other's throats and our relationship is done. I won't talk

1245
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: to her ever again. Thank you me. What are you

1246
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: even talking about? I'm so lost and confused. Stepmother, you

1247
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: called stepsister and pretended you didn't know that she knew

1248
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: about the venue issue, and then at the end said, oh,

1249
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: but you knew, didn't you. And it's just not the

1250
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: mature way to handle things, and it has turned everyone

1251
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: against each other trying to place blame. My relationship with

1252
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,240
Speaker 1: her is now over. I really can't handle this stuff.

1253
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 1: I shouldn't even have been having to deal with this.

1254
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: I'm sick and now devastated. Stop it, you the difficult one,

1255
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: Quit it.

1256
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 2: Stop it.

1257
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 1: You knew he knew. You could have both said it earlier,

1258
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 1: and instead you said nothing, and it would have made

1259
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 1: OP look down the line like she supported a PDF

1260
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 1: file and didn't think he did anything wrong. Okay, it's all.

1261
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:53,959
Speaker 1: That's all. That's all you, baby girl.

1262
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 2: You're telling me that you're blaming Ope for bullying your daughter.

1263
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: You're like my lives in deceit have been by your truth.

1264
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 2: I hate you talk to me because I bullied her

1265
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:04,399
Speaker 2: over this.

1266
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: It was crazy against me. You have done that yourself.

1267
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 1: I ended up going out to my car and calling

1268
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 1: her to ask what the heck's going on and try

1269
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 1: to smooth things over. She yelled and cried about how

1270
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 1: my stepsister and I are ruining her life and her

1271
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: reputation with our drama, and how she is the victim

1272
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: in all this. She said, I should have handled the

1273
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: situation maturely. I was literally just coming out of a

1274
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: work call that essentially told me that my position, which

1275
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: I worked years to get into and was even in

1276
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: the process of relocating for, was being eliminated. I would

1277
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: either have to accept a demotion or be laid off.

1278
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: When all the messages from my stepmother started flooding in,

1279
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: I just didn't have the capacity to deal with this.

1280
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 1: Drama on top of that. So when she started laying

1281
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 1: into me, I started crying hysterically. I honestly just wanted

1282
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: the situation to be over. I felt like my world

1283
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 1: was crumbling and I was on the edge of a cliff.

1284
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 1: I cried, saying I didn't even care about the stupid

1285
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,439
Speaker 1: wedding venue anymore, that I was over it and wished

1286
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 1: we could just drop the whole thing and move forward.

1287
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 1: I essentially just got a brief sorry that happened to you,

1288
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: and then she continued on about how evil my stepsister

1289
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: is and how she's so sick about the situation and

1290
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: its effect on her health. I told her I had

1291
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: to go, and I called my bio father. I left

1292
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: him a message saying I don't know what's going on

1293
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,760
Speaker 1: between him, stepsister and set Mom, but I can't handle

1294
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: all the drama of it right now. If he could

1295
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: just set the nonsense aside and be a god dang

1296
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: father to me for five e fing seconds, I feel

1297
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: like drowning right now and I really needed some support.

1298
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: I said all this while still bawling. He called back

1299
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:26,959
Speaker 1: a minute later and immediately started in about how dare

1300
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: you speak to me that way? Brother? She teed you up.

1301
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: She gave you the juiciest little underhand toss for you

1302
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: to hit right out of the park and instead, Ben

1303
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: Tem you took the bat and you smacked her with it.

1304
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 2: That's not cool seeing them out teeing them up crazy,

1305
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,439
Speaker 2: So multiple times like yeah, totally get it. Not mad

1306
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 2: at you, just you know, was a little bit disappointed,

1307
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 2: and they're like like, shut up, just take the wind man.

1308
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: And just in a voice like I guess take a

1309
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 1: speak to me that way. You're just a little boy,

1310
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: GoJ that do. He went into a lecture about he

1311
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: is my father and I need to treat him with respect.

1312
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: I just quietly cried to myself, zoning out while he

1313
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: was ranting, until he finally said, okay, so what's going on?

1314
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 1: This switch up is insane. These people are emotionally on

1315
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: the centered Clessie. By that point I felt so devastated

1316
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: and numb. I just monotonously explained what was said in

1317
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: the work cause briefly as I could, and told him

1318
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: I had to go and thanked him for calling me.

1319
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: I came to a hard realization in that moment, one

1320
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 1: that I had always known but never wanted to truly

1321
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: admit to myself, I could be on the edge of

1322
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: a cliff ready to jump, but if it came between

1323
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 1: me and his ego, my biofather would push me on.

1324
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: He gave you the old Thanoskimora. That's when I decided

1325
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: I needed to emotionally distance myself from that side of

1326
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: the family. I kept contact and still spoke with my

1327
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: biofather so that I could remain in my little brother's life,

1328
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: but I kept the conversations mostly about work and game

1329
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 1: plans for dealing with his situation. It was the easiest

1330
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: thing to talk about because my biofather liked to give

1331
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: his opinion and it has a bit of a savior complex.

1332
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: So these conversations allowed me to stay as emotionally distant

1333
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,919
Speaker 1: as possible while still able to keep the peace. Giving

1334
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: him updates on my job search gave me the excuse

1335
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 1: to contact him just enough that he and his wife

1336
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 1: would not start the resentment campaign that they do when

1337
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: someone doesn't contact them in a few weeks, while also

1338
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: showing I was busy enough that I had a valid

1339
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 1: excuse for not driving the five hours one way to

1340
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 1: visit them anytime I had free time. Even more drama

1341
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: erupted after this, which would honestly have to be a

1342
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:27,439
Speaker 1: whole different post, but I just slowly stopped reaching out.

1343
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: Then I noticed they both unfriended me on Facebook, and

1344
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: I decided to put them on an information diet by

1345
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: blocking them. I ended up keeping contact to just birthdays

1346
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: and holidays, always me messaging them first, and occasionally my

1347
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 1: biofather would respond with it you two. I cried when

1348
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 1: my birthday passed and I didn't get so much as

1349
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: a happy birthday. I wasn't surprised, but it's still hurt.

1350
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: And like, honestly, these you know, in the parent child relationship,

1351
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 1: it's like, I feel like the mending of it is

1352
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: like it balls within the realm of the parents to begin.

1353
00:59:57,800 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 2: Some the men when they've freaking started all of that.

1354
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: If you don't have the awareness or that there even

1355
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 1: is something to mend, then it's like what do you

1356
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 1: you know, especially when you try to work on that.

1357
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 2: You tried to mend such a minor situation, and then

1358
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 2: they made it into like a freaking world ending.

1359
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they just turned it into uh, actually this

1360
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,919
Speaker 1: is all your fault now is actually mostly your fault,

1361
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 1: and this is exactly what we thought was gonna happen

1362
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: if we told you, which is why we didn't want to.

1363
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: And it's like, Dad, why is your friend a PDF file?

1364
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: Why are you not telling me that? Why are you

1365
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 1: not telling me that your friend is end of the

1366
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: day a fan of the Adobe file format system.

1367
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 2: Weirdo.

1368
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 1: And now here we are we found a new venue,

1369
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 1: and I'm agonizing on whether or not to send them

1370
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 1: a Save the day. And by the way, you can

1371
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 1: save the date. It's today and tomorrow and the day

1372
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 1: after that, and that's the days every day that we

1373
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: add new episodes with stories just like this. All you

1374
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 1: gotta do is go to Apple Podcasts or Spotify or

1375
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 1: or iHeartRadio and search okay, story time, and there you

1376
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 1: will have a.

1377
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 2: Treat for the sense treasure of stories.

1378
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 1: A treasure tree. Great snakes, She'll say, because great, googlely Moogly,

1379
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: there's so many stories in there. Great, we have a

1380
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 1: little bit more story left and I've finished cooking. So

1381
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 1: do we have anything to add here? No?

1382
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 2: I think you just don't need to send them a

1383
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 2: Save of the day. They have shown you tried to

1384
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 2: smooth that situation over so many times, only for them

1385
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 2: to literally make it ten times worse and then blame

1386
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 2: it all on you. So I think, for a peace

1387
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 2: of mind, you do not have to invite.

1388
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they block you on Facebook like they're

1389
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 1: twelve years old.

1390
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 2: Weird crazy weirdo.

1391
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 1: It is crazy. Yes, I know I have people please

1392
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 1: your syndrome. I've been working on upping my calcium for

1393
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 1: my backbone and cutting the BS from my diet, but

1394
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 1: it's been hard. Doctor. I keep reflecting on all that

1395
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 1: had happened and how this incident really pushed a lot

1396
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: of it into motion. The thing is, I feel like

1397
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 1: I really did handle it in a mature manner. I

1398
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 1: let them know I was disappointed and needed space, but

1399
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 1: tried so hard to keep the peace, and everything just

1400
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 1: snowball there from nothing. So I ask, am I the

1401
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: a hole for expressing my disappointment? Should I still invite

1402
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 1: them to the wedding? If I don't, it would be

1403
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 1: drawing a line in the sand that I can't come

1404
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 1: back from. Your dad line. Your dad unfriended you from Facebook.

1405
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 2: That's a line that they've already drawn. You're just that's

1406
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 2: just authetic, little big boy line, and you're upholding the

1407
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 2: line you're playing and drawing.

1408
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 1: It you're planning with their rules. Yeah, so if they

1409
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 1: feel like they missed out and you go, dang, you know,

1410
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 1: I would have invited you, but I couldn't send you

1411
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: your Facebook.

1412
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 2: Invite, couldn't find you.

1413
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: You probably could have seen everything you needed to see

1414
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 1: on my Facebook.

1415
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1416
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, but since you blocked me, I guess, I guess

1417
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 1: you can't even see that.

1418
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 2: Guess that's it.

1419
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 1: I didn't know people like to go to the weddings

1420
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: of people they've blogged.

1421
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's the end of that story. Hey, it's

1422
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 2: John here. We're gonna get back to the stories.

1423
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 1: Put a quick three minute ad break from our sponsors

1424
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 1: that keep the show going.

1425
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 2: My father's partner won't respect my daughter's boundaries, so we

1426
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 2: sidestepped their surprise party. My thirty three female daughter, Cleo

1427
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 2: five year old, hate pink. She has disliked the color

1428
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 2: and almost everything to do with it since she was

1429
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 2: about three or so. She has one pink shirt she

1430
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 2: likes and one pink stuffed animal. And that's it. By

1431
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 2: the way, this comes from Daughter Party Throw And if

1432
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 2: you want to smit your own stories, got to our

1433
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,439
Speaker 2: slash Okay storytime suppurate it. So my father's partner, Pru

1434
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 2: refuses to accept that Cleoor doesn't like pink. Over the years,

1435
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 2: she's made several attempts to push the collar onto her

1436
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 2: pretty much every gift she's ever given her with some

1437
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 2: shade of pink. No matter how many times I tell

1438
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 2: her to stop, she has tried to give me dozens

1439
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 2: of different reasons why I should encourage my daughter to

1440
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 2: try different shade. It clearly upsets Cleo, but Prue keeps

1441
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 2: doing it. About a week ago, my father invited me,

1442
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 2: my husband, and our children for dinner at his place.

1443
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 2: He said he and Pru had a surprise for the kids.

1444
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 2: Right before we left home, my younger sister, who still

1445
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 2: lives with our father, texted me. She warned me that

1446
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 2: the surprise was actually a small birthday party Preu had

1447
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 2: planned for Cleo. That alone threw me off because my

1448
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 2: daughter's birthday was in November. My father did miss her

1449
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 2: actual birthday party due to work, but still also, my

1450
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 2: son turns nine in so I figured his would be

1451
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 2: the next party we'd have. Then she sent me photos

1452
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 2: about the place was decorated, and it was very clearly

1453
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:11,439
Speaker 2: not meant for Cleo. Literally every piece of decor was pink.

1454
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 2: The table, the tableware, are the balloons, everything she has gotten.

1455
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 2: Pink banners include pink foil, fringe, curtains on the doors,

1456
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 2: even the cake was pink.

1457
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 1: Why why why, why why why?

1458
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 3: Why?

1459
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 2: Why are we forcing these silly little gender stereotypes onto

1460
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 2: five year old so she.

1461
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 1: Has to like the color pink. She's the girl. If

1462
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 1: you've ever played the Game of Life, they're pink.

1463
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 2: And the boy pieces are blue, so she.

1464
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 1: Have to be.

1465
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 2: I showed everything to my husband and we agreed not

1466
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 2: to take the kids there. I texted my father the

1467
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 2: following Hey, sister told me everything. We're not coming. We're

1468
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 2: taking the kids to McDonald's and telling them that was

1469
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 2: your surprise. You and Prue can come if you want.

1470
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 2: We're pan We did exactly that. My father did show

1471
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 2: up without Prue, but he was cold with us and

1472
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 2: left twenty minutes after arriving. Both him and Prue are pissed.

1473
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 2: My father is angry that my husband and I dismissed

1474
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 2: his partner's heartfelt gestured towards our daughter.

1475
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: Not heartfelt.

1476
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 2: Not heartfelt. She's just trying to enforce pink on your daughter.

1477
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 2: Prue also told me that I'm the reason in Cleo,

1478
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 2: it's restrictev. I also don't like pink, and I'm raising

1479
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 2: her to be an ungrateful, spoiled brat who is unwilling

1480
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 2: to compromise. To be honest, I get how I could

1481
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 2: be in the wrong here, but at the same time,

1482
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 2: this just felt like Prue trying to push something Cleo

1483
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 2: doesn't like onto her Yet again, My sister and one

1484
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 2: of my brothers are on my side, though my sister

1485
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 2: did say I had been rude. My other brother is

1486
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 2: on the fence. Am I the ale at it? My

1487
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 2: daughter doesn't know I dislike pink, nor would I care

1488
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 2: if she did like it. No, you're not the a hole.

1489
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 2: Your parents clearly don't care about your daughter at all,

1490
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 2: because one, it's not even her birthdays. It's like what

1491
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 2: they're throwing this weird little birthday party that is not

1492
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 2: made for your daughter's you know, interests at all.

1493
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 1: I wonder where this behavior comes from. Where's the emotional

1494
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 1: core of somebody being like, yeah, my five year old

1495
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 1: daughter doesn't like pink, and then you have to be like, oh,

1496
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 1: will see about that, Oh will make her like bank?

1497
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 2: Oh, don't too worry.

1498
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 1: Why are you making my daughter's birthday about you being

1499
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 1: right about the color pink? Weirdo, just make it the

1500
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 1: color she likes me. Yeah, her birthday.

1501
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 2: She's five, literally, and if you can't do that, then

1502
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 2: don't throw the birthday party.

1503
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 1: She's weird.

1504
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 2: But there is an update. Hey guys, I ended up

1505
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 2: leaving a lot of comments on my ama the a

1506
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 2: hole post, which many of which say the same thing

1507
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 2: over and over. Oh, I wanted to clarify some things.

1508
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 2: Cleo and Preu are both fake knives. We're not American.

1509
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 2: Prue's forty six years old, and I don't call her

1510
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 2: my stepmother because she's only thirteen years older than me. Also,

1511
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 2: she's not married to my father, but they've been together

1512
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 2: for twelve years. I have nothing against her. We're just

1513
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 2: not close. Cleo's interests are pretty balanced. She likes princesses, cars, robots,

1514
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 2: and dolls. She loves science and outer space. She does

1515
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 2: ballet and loves it too. She's the only girl in

1516
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 2: her ballet class who wears black. Her teacher calls her

1517
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 2: black Swan. She's not a girly girl, but I wouldn't

1518
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 2: call her a tomboy either. She's just a kid who

1519
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 2: hates pink. Leo's favorite color are yellow and blue. Though

1520
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 2: I understand the assumption Cleo dislikes pink because of me,

1521
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 2: that's not the case. I hate pink, but I'm not

1522
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 2: disgusted by it. I wear pink clothing around my children.

1523
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 2: I occasionally dressed Cleo and pink as a baby. I

1524
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 2: own pink stuff and buy it for myself. My kids

1525
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 2: don't know I don't like pink. They've chosen pink gifts

1526
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 2: for me in the past. According to my son, I

1527
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 2: love all the colors. My father and Prue know it

1528
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 2: because I disliked pink since long before I had children.

1529
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 2: There's plenty of stuff I hate that my children like,

1530
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 2: and vice versa. They don't have to care about these things,

1531
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 2: so I don't tell them. Cleo's more boyish taste also

1532
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 2: annoyed Prue. I wonder why, Wow, the lady that is

1533
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 2: enforcing pink on this five year old is annoyed that

1534
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 2: the five year old's kind of a tomboy.

1535
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 1: I guarantee you she's a podcast and she's like, well,

1536
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 1: we just wouldn't want her to grow.

1537
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 2: Up, and she's like she has to act like ladies.

1538
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 2: She's the type of person who's like, whenever Cleo's around

1539
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 2: other boys in her gray, She's like, Oh, is that

1540
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 2: your boyfriend? Is that other five year old your boyfriend?

1541
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's whack. Five year old is five year olds

1542
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 1: having boyfriends?

1543
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 2: Not as much as the pink thing, but enough that

1544
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 2: my husband and I know. Cleo's birthday party last November

1545
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 2: was themed after Super Mario Bros. And Prue actually asked

1546
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:12,919
Speaker 2: me why I was allowing that Cleo is open about

1547
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 2: hating pink. She has expressed that to Prue several times.

1548
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I just have to reference the

1549
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:21,759
Speaker 1: fact that she's like, how are you allowing your child

1550
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 1: to have their party be centered around literally one of

1551
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 1: the most, if not the most popular child's intellectual property

1552
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 1: of all time. Yeah, it's a little silly, you fool.

1553
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 2: That's a little selly.

1554
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 1: Have you a fool?

1555
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 2: Are you silly fool? Both my kids are polite. Whenever

1556
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 2: Prue gives my daughter something pink, Cleo thinks her she'll

1557
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 2: sometimes ask proof she can give her something yellow next time,

1558
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 2: and she doesn't act as excited as she gets when

1559
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 2: other people give her something she actually likes.

1560
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 1: But that's it. We let Cleo.

1561
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 2: Choose which of her gifts she wants to exchange. She

1562
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:55,719
Speaker 2: always asks to exchange pink stuff. If it can't be exchanged,

1563
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 2: she won't play with it or wear it. We either

1564
01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 2: give those away to her friends or donate them to Cherry.

1565
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 2: Cleo does have friends who love pink. Her best friend

1566
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 2: loves it and wouldn't complain if they threw pink parties

1567
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:08,600
Speaker 2: for themselves. She'd know those aren't about her. But the

1568
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 2: second you make it about her. AKA threw her a

1569
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:14,520
Speaker 2: pink party, then she'd be upset. Cleo would have loathed

1570
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:17,719
Speaker 2: the party. She would have started crying immediately. She wouldn't

1571
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 2: have eaten the cake, she wouldn't have had fun. I

1572
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:22,799
Speaker 2: didn't tell Cleo about the party for a number of reasons.

1573
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 2: Most importantly, I didn't want her to get upset. I

1574
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 2: also knew that letting her see it would ruin my

1575
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 2: father's image in her eyes. Cleo is already upset that

1576
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 2: Preu doesn't care about what she likes, and I didn't

1577
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 2: want to get frustrated at her grandfather too. Yes, my

1578
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:37,759
Speaker 2: daughter does in fact hate pink. Yes, I'm well aware

1579
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 2: that might change someday. No, I wouldn't care if it did.

1580
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 2: I think that's all I wanted to say here. Feel

1581
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 2: free to ask me any other questions you may have,

1582
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 2: and there is another update.

1583
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 1: Any thought great comment brings up that she has an

1584
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 1: older brother. Also, yeah, probably she's looking up to her

1585
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 1: older brother. Yeah.

1586
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 2: Absolutely, a lot of Sim's pink like things so Sam liked,

1587
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 2: you know, influenced my taste things as well. It happened anyway,

1588
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 2: and there is an update though. First of all, I

1589
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 2: apologize to my sister a few hours after I made

1590
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 2: my original post. I'm very grateful for what she did,

1591
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 2: but I'll do my best to keep her away from

1592
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 2: those conflicts moving forward. Thank you to those who defended her. Secondly,

1593
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 2: I went through your comments with my husband, and our

1594
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 2: main takeaway was that we did what we had to

1595
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 2: do to protect Cleo, even if it wasn't what we

1596
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 2: do in most circumstances. Had either of us been surprised

1597
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 2: with a party decorated with something we openly hated, we

1598
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 2: would have set up and ignored it. It act, but

1599
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 2: were adults and it comes with the territory. Cleo, however,

1600
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 2: is five years old. She wouldn't deal with this the

1601
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 2: same way, nor would we expect her to. Knowing my daughter,

1602
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 2: she would have been miserable at that party, so ultimately

1603
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 2: we don't regret not taking her there. On Saturday, we

1604
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 2: took the kids to spend the afternoon at my brother's

1605
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 2: place with her cousins. In the meantime, we invited my

1606
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 2: father and Prove over to talk. My husband and I

1607
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 2: told them that we wanted them to abide by the following.

1608
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 2: No more surprise parties without our knowledge and approval, no

1609
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 2: more pushing the color pink onto Cleo, including pink gifts,

1610
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:06,599
Speaker 2: and no more calling our children spoiled for being allowed

1611
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,679
Speaker 2: to dislike things. If they didn't agree to our terms,

1612
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 2: we would no longer take the kids to their place,

1613
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:13,599
Speaker 2: and there would be a good chance we'd lower our

1614
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 2: contact with them in the future. Prue didn't say anything

1615
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 2: at first. My father tried to argue that we should

1616
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 2: at least thank her for the party, but I said no.

1617
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 2: I told them the problem wasn't that Prue threw a

1618
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:25,759
Speaker 2: party for my daughter that was dedicated to her own interests.

1619
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 2: It was that she specifically chose something she knows my

1620
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:33,599
Speaker 2: daughter hates and centered everything around it. We wouldn't thank her,

1621
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 2: and we wouldn't apologize. That's when Prue chimed in. She

1622
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:38,560
Speaker 2: tried to tell us we were raising our daughter to

1623
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 2: be up brad again. So I asked, why are you

1624
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,640
Speaker 2: so insistent on pink? She didn't answer at first, but

1625
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 2: then she said she knew Cleo did love pink, she

1626
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 2: just didn't know it yet. Wow. And to that, I asked,

1627
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:50,639
Speaker 2: would you be this pushy if it was about any

1628
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 2: other color. Prue tried to say that didn't matter. But

1629
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 2: when my husband asked her if she'd care if Cleo

1630
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 2: hated blue, she said she doesn't need to like blue.

1631
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:00,719
Speaker 2: He replied that she didn't need to like pink either.

1632
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 2: He told Prue that she had no right to decide

1633
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 2: what Cleo should and shouldn't like. Cleo hates pink, and

1634
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 2: if she can't be an adult and respect that, then

1635
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 2: she doesn't need to be around our children. Good aunt you.

1636
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 1: It is absolutely ridiculous that this is a conversation flowing

1637
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 1: out of a groan to mouth.

1638
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 2: She's gotta like pink. But you can hear conversation flow

1639
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 2: out of our mouths if you listen to full episodes

1640
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 2: of stories just like this. Just go to Spotify, Apple

1641
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 2: Podcasts or iHeartRadio and search a poky storytime. There's a

1642
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 2: little bit left to the story. I think that you

1643
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 2: got You and your husband are doing the right thing.

1644
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,680
Speaker 2: You're just putting your foot down saying like, hey, you

1645
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 2: need to stop or you're not going to be able

1646
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 2: to be around the kids.

1647
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:42,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, you need to knock off the unhinged behavior regarding

1648
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 1: the color pink, regarding just gendered colors, relaxed, weirdo.

1649
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 2: It is five. It's so crazy like what they want.

1650
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 2: In the end, my father and Prue agreed to our terms.

1651
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 2: I'm not confident about her, but I did speak to

1652
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 2: my father. I said, I know that he has a

1653
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 2: hard time saying no to Prue, but he ruinous relationships

1654
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 2: with me and my children if he keeps enabling his partner.

1655
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 2: My father promised he wouldn't let this happen again. I

1656
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 2: hope this works out. Cleo is a great kid, and

1657
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:10,720
Speaker 2: I hope my father and Prue can finally start seeing that.

1658
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 2: Thank you all for everything. And that's the end of

1659
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:13,679
Speaker 2: that story.

1660
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:17,719
Speaker 1: Remember, folks, pink is for girls only and more all.

1661
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 2: The stories that if you're a girl you have to

1662
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 2: wear pants.

1663
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 1: And that's and if that girl pink Boy's blue. Easy,

1664
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 1: that's it. You hope he had followed the rules. Okay,

1665
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 1: everything would be fine.

1666
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 2: Wouldn't have had this for all?

1667
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 1: Okay, Now, all those out there who maybe don't know

1668
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 1: what humor is. That was sarcasm, I think, come back

1669
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 1: to me, Come back back. Everyonees it was all a joke.

1670
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 1: It was all a joke. Little girls can wear whatever

1671
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 1: the color they want, Little boys can wear whatever color

1672
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,800
Speaker 1: they want. Fully grown men and women wear whatever colors

1673
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 1: they want. It really has nothing to do with anyone.

1674
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 2: Gender is a social construct. But that is the end

1675
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 2: of that story. We love you and see it tomorrow.