WEBVTT - Getting Real with Daisy 0:00:02.120 --> 0:00:04.280 Hey, everyone, welcome back to Betsy Happy Hour. 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:07.080 I'm Joe and I'm Serena and we. 0:00:06.960 --> 0:00:10.960 Are here with Daisy. We're so excited that you're here, Daisy. 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:11.799 Thank you for coming on. 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:15.040 How are you hi? Thanks for having me. I'm so 0:00:15.120 --> 0:00:16.279 excited to be on here. 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:19.800 Yeah, we're really honestly, we're really excited to have you. 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:25.680 I don't, I mean, the feedback on everything, Daisy has 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:29.639 just been so positive. So, like I said, we're gonna 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:32.240 try to try to get you say something you shouldn't. 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:33.519 So are you ready for that? 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:35.000 I'm ready? 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:39.120 So Okay, let's start. How How did you get on 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:40.000 the show? 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:44.720 So I actually was making tiktoks like a year ago, 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:48.599 just about my cochlear implant, like my process of getting it, 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:52.400 and a producer someone in casting saw one of my 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:55.600 tiktoks that had gone viral and then they damned and 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:57.120 reached after me and we're like, would you ever be 0:00:57.200 --> 0:00:59.800 interested in going on The Bachelor? 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:05.240 Was like, maybe, Yeah, what was that decision? 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:05.520 Like? 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:08.160 Because I know you just said at the finale that 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:11.200 it's just been now one year since you got your 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:14.800 cochlear implant, right, So it was still kind of early 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:18.600 in that transition. Was it a hard decision to go 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:21.600 on the show or were you like, no, live my 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:23.440 best life, let's do it it. 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:26.120 Definitely it was because at the time I was still 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:29.200 really learning a lot with it, and speech didn't sound 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:33.800 as good as like it can with it, So it 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:35.480 was kind of I had a lot of conversations with 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:38.280 my parents about it too, just because I already had 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:41.560 gone through like a ton of stress because of that 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:45.080 and just the whole process and like relearning to hear 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:47.760 in a different way. And I knew it was gonna 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:49.320 be hard going on the show because I was going 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:51.000 to be around people I had never met, so I 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:54.640 couldn't really focus on their like mannerisms and like I 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:58.000 didn't know anyone. And so I also talked to the 0:01:58.000 --> 0:01:59.720 producers a lot too, and I was like, you know, 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:01.920 I don't know how this is gonna go for me. 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:04.720 And actually the first night when I walked in, I 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:06.200 was like, I don't think I can do this. And 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:08.680 I actually talked to a couple of the producers. I 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:10.160 was like, I think I need to leave, Like I 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:12.440 don't think. I don't think I was ready for this yet, 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:15.600 just because of all the noise. But everyone was so 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:19.480 comforting and like found ways to make me more comfortable. 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:22.360 So that was great. But yeah, I definitely it was 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:24.800 a hard decision. But now I'm so happy that I 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:25.840 did it. 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:28.600 It's also so hard because like there's not an ease 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:32.200 into the show and night one is the longest and 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:35.200 the most overwhelming night, so you're kind of just thrown 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:36.600 into the deep end right away. 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:39.959 Yeah, and they were definitely, like they kept reassuring me. 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:42.959 They were like, this is gonna be like the hardest night, 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:48.200 like probably probably like acoustic for you. And it's like 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:50.560 you're going in you don't know anybody, You're meeting this 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:52.720 guy you never met, and all of the girls are 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:56.119 going for the same guy. So that's intimidating too. And 0:02:56.200 --> 0:03:02.880 so the first time I was like, my gosh. 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:04.600 Yeah, I know night one is Night one's awful for everyone. 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:09.200 I do. I have. So I have a friend that 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:11.360 that has lime disease, and I actually looked up the 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:15.920 hospital that you went to in Germany. Yeah, do you 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:19.359 think if you do you think like if you didn't 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:23.560 go to that hospital, you would have found another way 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:26.560 to cure it, or you think like that hospital is 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:28.560 like the reason. 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:31.640 I think that's the reason for me, definitely, because I 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:34.320 did a lot of other treatments in the States, and 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:38.640 I tried basically everything I could from like eastern to 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:42.200 western medicine, and then I heard of this place, so 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:44.280 I went and I did it. It was kind of 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:47.200 I was at that point in my life where I 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:51.200 was like, it can't get worse, nothing worse, and so 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:53.560 that's when I decided to go and do it. And 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:55.760 I'm so thankful that I did it, and I know 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:57.320 a lot of people that have done it that it's 0:03:57.320 --> 0:04:03.200 worked for. So so yeah, that for me was definitely it. 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:05.160 And I always say if I were to get sick 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:06.880 again or anything were to happen, I would go back 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:07.560 there in a second. 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:08.400 Yeah. 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:12.560 That's amazing interesting too, because, like I mean, it is 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:15.160 in a different country, so there's like a whole different 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:17.240 aspect to it, and just the doctors kind of look 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:20.520 at medicine differently. So it was really interesting being there too. 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:24.560 And I can I ask you once so then once 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:28.680 you leave that hospital and you're done with that treatment, like, 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:31.120 how how much longer did it take for you to 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:36.039 be I guess back healthy again? Back to like fully healthy? 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:40.520 Yeah, I would say probably two months after that is 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:42.279 when I really noticed. I was like, I feel like 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:45.800 a completely different person. Some people right after they do 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:48.159 like the main part of the treatment. They feel better 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:51.359 right after, and then people can take like up to 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:53.880 six months because your body can still be like detoxing, 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:58.120 and also like everything that was kind of damaged damaged 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:00.440 has to like replenish and build. 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:03.880 Yeah, that's what I would figure. Cool. Welcome, thank you, 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:08.200 thank you for opening up about that. Okay, so let's 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:12.159 go to Joey Joey, Joey Joey. You see him out 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:14.560 of the limbo. What are your thoughts? 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:17.800 I At the beginning, I was like, I don't really 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:21.400 know how this is gonna go. But I was really excited. 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:24.240 And when like he was announced as the bachelor, I 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:28.719 was like I could actually see myself like me and 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:31.279 him getting along really really well. And so I was 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:32.919 excited about it. And I got out. I was just 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:37.960 so nervous. But then and then you walked in and 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:40.360 it was just like craziness, all the girls and everything. 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:43.839 But then when I talked to him, that was the 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:47.000 first time I was like, oh, I was like maybe 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:48.840 I think something's like there. 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:53.120 That's always like a good feeling too, because you're like, 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:54.200 this night's so crazy. 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:56.800 I've just like turned my life upside down to be here. 0:05:57.279 --> 0:05:59.880 So to have that first conversation be like, Okay, this 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:02.560 wasn't all for nothing, like there's a potential connection, must 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:03.240 have felt really good. 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:06.200 Yeah, And I didn't talk to him until like six am. 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:10.960 I think, no, were you panicking thinking you might not 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:11.559 get a chance. 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:15.400 I mean, yes, a little bit, because I'm I was 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:19.040 the last one to talk to him that night, So 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:21.279 as the time was going on, as I got like 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:24.320 three am, I was like, I don't know if I'm 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:27.400 gonna talk to him and Halloween. 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:29.360 Here if he's got some time to chat. 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:31.880 But how was he when you when you had that 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:34.560 last conversation that he seemed exhausted or was he just 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:37.880 like amped up on adrenaline and fine. 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:42.560 Yeah, he seemed really present, so okay, yeah, I don't know. 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:45.680 I remember being like at from three to four, I 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:49.080 was like, I'm not gonna make it. But then I 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:49.800 got another. 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:52.839 Woman nice and then I would say, like, what what 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:58.680 point in the season did you realize like I'm really 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:05.320 starting to catch feeling and I'm one of his stronger connections. 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:08.799 I would say that a lot of the other girls 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:10.800 in the house noticed it before I did, and a 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:13.200 lot of my friends were like, no, he's really really 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:16.080 into you. And I think I was still I kind 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:18.160 of with the whole process. I was always being like 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:21.200 kind of careful about it all and how I was feeling. 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:24.360 But I would say every time I was with him, 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:28.080 I was like liking him more and more, and then 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:29.800 when I was away from him, I was kind of like, 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:32.280 but is this whole thing like real? I was like 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:35.240 kind of in my head about it, you know, But 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:41.920 I would say definitely. I would say our date in Jasper, 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:46.000 for sure was kind of like a huge like stepping stone, 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:48.760 like getting to the next step and like my feelings. 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:52.760 But I would say, like, even after our first one 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:57.200 on one, I was like, whoa, I really really like 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:00.200 this guy. And I didn't expect myself to be like that. 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:04.880 But yeah, you opened up a lot on your first 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:09.480 one on one. Two, How did you expect him to react? 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:11.920 Was that the first time you shared that story in 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:13.000 like a dating sense? 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:17.120 Actually, yeah, definitely. So after I got my cochlear and plan, 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:21.600 i'd only been on like one date since, but it 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:24.520 was somebody that I had known prior, so they like 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:26.920 knew all my health stuff and knew everything about me, 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:31.440 but this was my first time like sitting down literally 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:34.320 with anybody in my life and being like, so, like, 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:38.079 this is what's happened, and it happened really recently. That's 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:40.040 why it was such a big thing for me to 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:44.040 tell him and like, for yeah, that's just why it 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:45.440 was such a big thing for me to like sit 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:47.680 down and talk to him about because I had never 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:50.800 done that and it was still like a huge thing 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:53.760 I was learning and being comfortable with. So it was 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:57.240 important like that he knew, especially after that first night, 0:08:57.280 --> 0:08:58.880 because I was like, I don't know how this is 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:03.360 going to go for me. So yeah, I was like 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:06.800 I was nervous, but I knew, like everything I had 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:10.640 heard about him is super nice and kind, so I 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:12.640 knew it was probably going to be a good conversation. 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:17.240 But it was still difficult because you never know, oh. 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:19.920 Of course, and it's still you had the first one 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:22.839 on one date, so it's still early on. I feel 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:25.080 like that it's not like you've had a few weeks 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:27.480 to get to know him. Where you're going in with like, oh, 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:29.800 I think this is how he's going to react based 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:34.840 on like my time with him, how were you thinking 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:37.640 expecting hoping he was going to react to you sharing 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:38.120 your story? 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:42.280 Honestly, just the way he did. I thought it was 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:45.600 like perfect how he reacted. I honestly, he reacted better 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:49.600 than I even like imagined somebody would. So that was 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:51.640 really good to see. And it was really special too, 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:54.960 because after that episode, I had so many parents reaching 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:58.880 out to me with like kids who had cochlear implants 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:02.040 or if they have other things, and they were just like, 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:04.400 you know, it gave us kind of a sense and 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:06.679 like an understanding of how they do ever want to 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:08.959 talk about it, like a way they can talk about it, 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:13.199 And so that was really special to see too. Yeah. 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:16.160 Do you think do you think getting the first one 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:19.840 on one date is good or bad. 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:22.120 For me? 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:25.400 Because nothing, Sorry not to cut you off, because it 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:27.480 is something that's like you get the first one on 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:29.600 one and you guys, if it's really seemed like you 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:33.520 really liked each other, but then like so much happens 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:37.439 and we're kind of like, what's going on with Yeah, 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:39.880 what's going on with Joey and Daisy? Yeah? 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:42.560 Yeah, I think in my case, I think it was 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:45.480 really good and I think it allowed for us to 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:48.600 kind of build a good like foundation from the beginning 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:51.840 and talk about a lot of things that we both 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:54.160 like wanted and felt like we needed to talk about. 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:57.120 And then I think moving forward, we just kept like 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:59.960 building and building from that. But it is weird because 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:02.600 like you go from having all that time with them 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:05.880 and then it's super cut short, like on group dates 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:08.120 and stuff. But I kind of looked at it like, Okay, 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:11.400 I have to make the most out of like the time, 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:13.720 the small amount of time that I have now. But 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:17.840 also I don't know, I could just tell after that 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:20.120 like first one on one, like I never felt very 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:25.320 like insecure in mine and his relationship. I feel like it. 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:29.440 I feel like we just kept like progressing until we didn't. 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:31.280 Yeah. 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:33.680 Yeah, And I feel like that just goes to show 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:36.640 that he was probably making a conscious effort to validate you, 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:39.720 and like I feel like we saw both of you 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:43.480 like making an effort to like move the relationship forward. 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:44.120 Do you know what I mean? 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:47.240 Like throughout those small times that you had together, I 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:49.319 know you said that your date and Jasper was kind 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:51.079 of like a big turning point. 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:54.000 I want to talk about your conversation with him. 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:57.080 On how you said like, Hey, I'm not in love 0:11:57.120 --> 0:12:01.959 with you, but kind of what was your thought process 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:04.439 going into that conversation. 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:10.600 I mean I felt like I had heard like other 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:13.040 girls in the house and I was friends with a 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:14.400 lot of them, and I had heard a lot of 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:17.080 people I told him that they were falling in love 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:20.560 with him, and I remember when we were in Spain, 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:25.400 I was like, I I'm not there yet, but I 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:27.800 feel like I should be because I was like, I've 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:30.240 gotten like the most time out of a lot of people, 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:32.720 and I'm like I was kind of like should I 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:36.960 be here? Like that was my like my thought process. 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:39.480 And then going into our date, like I knew where 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:43.480 hometowns were, so I just wanted to be super honest 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:46.280 because I know, like his biggest fear was like somebody 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:50.280 not getting there, and so I didn't want to if 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:52.280 like that was going to be like a caught off 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:54.719 thing for him, Like I didn't want to take somebody 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:58.400 else's like opportunity, and like I wanted to go to 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:01.800 hometown so badly, But I was just like I wasn't 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:03.680 like in love with him. 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:13.240 Yeah, was there any part of you that was worried 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:15.960 that when you said that he was going to be like, well, 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:21.000 you know, you're steps behind these other connections and maybe 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:22.319 end the relationship right there. 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:26.840 Yeah, definitely I thought that was like that could be 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:31.200 a thing for sure, But I also knew I could 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:33.160 tell he like really cared about me, and I really 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:35.760 cared about him too, and I think I was holding 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:40.520 back in ways also, But yeah, that definitely went through 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:41.040 my mind. 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:46.679 Okay, let's go to com down. So yeah, I guess 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:49.000 when was when was the switch where You're like, oh, 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:52.680 I actually I now I'm now here or I'm getting here, 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:56.880 and yeah, like hometowns went really well. It was it 0:13:57.000 --> 0:14:00.640 maybe just him meeting your your family, Like what was it? 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:03.760 Yeah, I think meeting my family and after that date 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:06.320 in Jasper, I think it shows a clip of me 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:10.040 and I'm like, it's happening. Remember after that I was 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:13.760 talking and I was like, yeah, I think I think 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:18.200 I might be like in love with him, and then yeah, 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:20.120 and then going to hometowns and like meeting my family 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:22.480 and everything it just went. It was like such a 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:27.120 perfect day. And so that was definitely the moment. And 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:29.000 I think talking to my parents too, because it is 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:32.880 a crazy experience and you're cut off from everyone, and 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:35.840 so I didn't have like my family I could talk to. 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:38.200 I didn't have my typical like friends that I could 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:40.080 talk to all the time to be like, oh, like 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:43.160 this guy and tell them all this stuff kind of 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:46.000 get their input. But it was really good for me too, 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:49.400 because it made me kind of work and process through 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:52.280 my own emotions in a way that I hadn't before. 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:55.880 So I think overall it was really good. But I 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:58.160 think that would be like the turning point. Probably. 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:00.840 Yeah, it was crazy as a if you were watching 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:04.800 your last few weeks of the show, because I feel 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:07.560 like we went from that conversation on your one on 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:09.320 one where you tell Joey like, I'm not in love 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:12.440 with you yet, and then it's really like this quick 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:15.120 snowball effect of your feelings. It's like almost like you 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:17.040 said that and he was like, I still want you here, 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:19.000 I still have a connection, and then it was your 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:21.960 family and then it was fantasy sweetes. Did it feel 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:23.680 like that, like, did it feel like you kind of 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:27.600 fell in love really quickly and like all at once. 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:28.080 I don't know. 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:30.560 I'm just trying to see if, like the way we 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:33.240 viewed it was in line with how you felt about 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:33.760 the journey. 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:36.800 You jinked yourself, Daisy, you drinked yourself out there. 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:40.240 I really did, But no, I think it was slowly 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:44.160 like filling it up, and I was kind of denying 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:47.440 it a little bit. But then yeah, at the end, 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:52.440 and I remember going into the real ceremony before Fantasy 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:56.440 Sweets Week, I remember doing like an interview. Then I 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:58.480 was like, you know, I'm just worried that I like 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:02.120 wasn't allowing myself to feel it, and now I'm feeling everything, 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:04.720 and I'm wishing I would have felt it sooner because 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:06.600 now I feel like I'm like gonna miss out. 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:12.440 Yeah, And I can totally understand how you would maybe 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:15.160 have like a guard up in the sense of like 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:18.200 you were maybe holding back those feelings because he is 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:21.560 dating multiple women and it is scary to be like, yeah, 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:23.640 I'm just gonna let myself like totally fall in love 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:26.400 with this guy when there's like fifteen other girls here 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:27.600 and I might get my heart broken. 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:32.400 Yeah, definitely, that definitely is a reason I feel like 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:39.600 a lot of people hold back sometimes. But yeah, I'm happy. 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:40.400 You kind of like, yeah, it's kind of it's it's 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:43.280 kind of insane. Not to hold back a little bit 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:47.520 because yeah, like there's just there's so many other women there. 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:51.600 But but with how it ends, are you happy you 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:54.600 eventually let yourself feel everything despite everything that happens. 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:59.360 Yes, I am, because I think I think it really 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:03.920 like opened me up in a different way, and I think, yeah, 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:07.439 I just think the ending happened like really beautifully for 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:12.480 everyone involved. And yeah, and I am really happy I 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:14.679 did it because it was such a great experience and 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:19.600 I had so much fun and I did create like 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:23.880 really good relationships through it too, and so yeah, honestly 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:28.560 it's as hard as it was in that moment, Like 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:30.520 looking back on it, I'm like, I think it was 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:31.679 like everything I needed. 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:37.760 Yeah, that's good. That's that's definitely a positive outlook. The 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:43.640 in between time between after Fantasy Suites and before that 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:47.560 last date, right, that's what. Yeah, like the sauna date, 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:52.280 where was your headspace before that that date? 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:57.080 Yeah, because I know you mentioned on the finale that 0:17:57.359 --> 0:17:59.720 the first time you felt that shadow of a doubt 0:17:59.840 --> 0:18:04.480 was after the rose ceremony after Fantasy Sweet, seeing Kelsey 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:05.960 and Joey. 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:06.400 Look at each other. 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:09.000 So yeah, to reiterate what joe said, where was your 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:10.119 head at Yeah. 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:15.159 So from yeah, from that last ye of ceremony, when 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:16.639 I saw him and Kelsey, I could just tell her 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:18.639 was like this energy between them, and I was like, 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:22.480 I don't think it's me. For like a second, I 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:25.440 remember thinking that, and I remember I like broke down 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:29.240 crying and they both like hugged me, and I was 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:36.320 like it's gonna be okay. Yeah. And then and then 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:40.359 from I think I kind of just like blocked it 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:42.040 out because I was like, oh, we're meeting the family. 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:45.719 Meeting the family went great, and then after that I 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:48.359 was like, Okay, that went so good, and I was like, 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:52.160 but I was, I didn't get you didn't really get 0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:53.880 to talk to him when you like meet the family, 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:56.440 don't get to talk to him that much, just basically 0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:59.639 just talking to the family. And then going into our 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:04.200 next I was just so like filled with anxiety and 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:07.720 it didn't feel like the excitement I had always felt 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:10.399 when I was going to see him, and everything just 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:15.159 started to like physically like hurt, like my whole body. 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:18.000 Like I was just like, this doesn't feel right. And 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:22.919 then we went into that date and I don't know, 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:24.800 maybe I had some like spiritual awakening. 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:27.680 I don't know, but I feel like it's like women's 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:31.280 intuition or like you just have this six sent Yeah. 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:34.320 Well yeah, because it did feel like as a viewer, 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:38.840 it kind of felt like Joey was like soft breaking 0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:39.720 up with you, like. 0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:41.160 He launching the break. 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:44.240 Yeah. And then and then I know, at the reunion 0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:47.520 or not the reunion whatever it's called, I should know 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:49.639 by now because I've been doing this for ten years. 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:53.960 He he like was like, how did you know? But 0:19:54.080 --> 0:19:56.159 like as a viewer, we were kind of it was 0:19:56.240 --> 0:19:58.359 kind of like, yeah, it's it's kind of obvious. 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:00.639 The It's like, Joey, your poker face, it wasn't as 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:01.760 good as you thought it was. 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:05.639 And like, do you think do you think like do 0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:09.720 you think you, I guess, poked that out of him 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:12.360 at all? Or do you think like it was kind 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:14.080 of just like you both were feeling it. 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:18.040 I guess I think we both were feeling it and 0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:24.320 we both knew, But I think it was just processing 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:28.760 and kind of like coming to terms with it. For me. Yeah, 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:32.439 but I think I think I definitely knew, and I 0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:36.959 think there was something, if I'm being honest, there was 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:39.680 something always missing between us, and I felt like in ways. 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:42.399 I was kind of trying to like force it to 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:46.840