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Speaker 1: offenses where they're not asking him do some of those things.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't run the same routes that DeVante Adams may

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Speaker 1: run on a game by game basis, but they put

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Speaker 1: him in a role where he is doing things that

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Speaker 1: fit his skill set, which is why he's able to

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Speaker 1: be a dominant player on the perimeter. Yeah, but even

432
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Speaker 1: to me, like even on those routes on the move,

433
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Speaker 1: like you'll see just pure speed guys, they're running a

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Speaker 1: d over. It is a straight it is a straight shot.

435
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Speaker 1: He understands how to stairstep guys. He understands that he

436
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Speaker 1: has that nuance to him. You know, so if if

437
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Speaker 1: I'm looking through and I'm saying, okay, what are give

438
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Speaker 1: me three trick characteristics of these guys which are a

439
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Speaker 1: little different as we just discussed. To me, I start

440
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Speaker 1: with the fact that there's quickness and all three you know,

441
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Speaker 1: you know, obviously Tyreek Hill has a different gear. All

442
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Speaker 1: three of those guys have elaite quickness. I think there's

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Speaker 1: a polish to their game so we can say what

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Speaker 1: type of route runners. But there's polished like they understand

445
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Speaker 1: the game. There's polished to him. And then the third one,

446
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Speaker 1: which we've talked about in the past, and it even

447
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Speaker 1: goes deeper if you go deeper down this list, play

448
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Speaker 1: strength for wide out. It's a big deal, man, it

449
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Speaker 1: is a big deal. Then let's go back to Tyreek

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Speaker 1: Hill because I will say this now because Steve Smith

451
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Speaker 1: our colleague NFL Media. I was in Carolina when we

452
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Speaker 1: brought him over, and he is one of the guys

453
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Speaker 1: that I would say is rare in terms of how

454
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Speaker 1: he went from being the big play specialist to the

455
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Speaker 1: number one receiver. The common denominated between Steve Smith and

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Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill. When you look at their frames, they're different.

457
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Speaker 1: They're stout, they're wider, they're thick. They're like running backs

458
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Speaker 1: on the perimeter, and that stature allows them to run

459
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Speaker 1: through contact. They break tackles. They are tough to get

460
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Speaker 1: down in one on one situation because you can't you

461
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Speaker 1: can't wrap them up. And it's not just the wiggle,

462
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Speaker 1: it's the play stream that you talked about. It's another

463
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Speaker 1: reason Deebo Samuel didn't rate up there. But when you

464
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Speaker 1: look at Deebo Samuel and his physicality, the way his

465
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Speaker 1: body build is, you have to really run through him

466
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Speaker 1: to tackle him and knock him off his pins. Tyreek Hill,

467
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Speaker 1: Steve Smith, those guys have those trades because they're thicker.

468
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Speaker 1: They're not thin guys that can't break tackles and can't

469
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Speaker 1: run out of contact. Yeah, No, it's it's a it's

470
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Speaker 1: a good point and to me, when you look at

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Speaker 1: this class, you know this, when we look through this exercise,

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Speaker 1: it bolds well for Jackson Smith and Jigba when you

473
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Speaker 1: just look at him in terms of quickness, play, strength,

474
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Speaker 1: and polish checks all those boxes. DJ was hard, right,

475
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Speaker 1: So when we started the process, right, everyone's down on him.

476
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Speaker 1: I was down on him because he didn't play. I

477
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Speaker 1: didn't see him, you didn't do this or whatever. But

478
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Speaker 1: then it takes a brief look at the table and

479
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Speaker 1: you're like, oh, man, he has it. Man, he has

480
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Speaker 1: the tools. You go back and look last see he's like, man,

481
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Speaker 1: he has all the tools that traditionally play well in

482
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Speaker 1: this game. He can run routes, he has great stop

483
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Speaker 1: start quickness and his fearlessness over the middle of the field.

484
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Speaker 1: Because there's one thing to position to say somebody's gonna

485
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Speaker 1: be a slot receiver. It's another thing to say, hey, man,

486
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Speaker 1: you gotta go running there in traffic. And I know

487
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Speaker 1: we talk about, oh, they can't hit and do those things.

488
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Speaker 1: I am telling you it doesn't matter. When you run

489
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Speaker 1: and venture inside the numbers, in between the hashes, there

490
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Speaker 1: are a lot of live bodies and they're still angry guys.

491
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Speaker 1: Linebacker and safety that still will put a hit on

492
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Speaker 1: you Jackson, Smith and Nick. But when you watch him,

493
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Speaker 1: there is a calmness to his game when he runs

494
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Speaker 1: over the middle of field that is a little different

495
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Speaker 1: than some guys. So confident, so natural with his hands,

496
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Speaker 1: just very pure in terms of like playing the position,

497
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Speaker 1: working over the middle. To me, he's terrific. And I've

498
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Speaker 1: had this argument with some receiver coaches in the league.

499
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Speaker 1: I think you can do more than just play the slide.

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Speaker 1: I really, when I look at him, I think he's

501
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Speaker 1: a true number one. We'll see if that happens as

502
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Speaker 1: he evolves. But to me, he absolutely has the tools

503
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Speaker 1: to be a number one receiver. We'll see if he

504
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Speaker 1: does that. But in the slide, he is terrific. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's difficult for me because I have a higher grade

506
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Speaker 1: on Jordan Addison, you know, but when you when you

507
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Speaker 1: step back, and I'm probably gonna stick with that, just

508
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Speaker 1: because I want to be true to my grade that

509
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Speaker 1: I gave him as a player. And we have seen,

510
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Speaker 1: you know, I'll give you the top guys, but we

511
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Speaker 1: have seen you know, DeVante Smith is with a thin frame,

512
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Speaker 1: have some scess there are you know, I think last

513
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Speaker 1: year with Johan Dotson did some nice things for Washington,

514
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Speaker 1: thin guys. So I think there's a place where I

515
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Speaker 1: think he's a number two. I don't think he's ever

516
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Speaker 1: going to be a number one. I think that's that's

517
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Speaker 1: who he is, what he is. But I'm telling you,

518
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Speaker 1: when you look at it and try and you know,

519
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Speaker 1: be objective, and I say Smith and jigb was twenty

520
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Speaker 1: three pounds heavier than he is. They ran basically the same.

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Speaker 1: You know, obviously we got to see Jordan Addison a

522
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Speaker 1: lot this year. We didn't see much as Smith and Jigbo.

523
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Speaker 1: But there are signs that point me in that direction.

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Speaker 1: And then the other one. I'll say, even though you

525
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Speaker 1: know he's only one hundred and eighty two pounds, but

526
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Speaker 1: he's at five nine, so he's put together, built a

527
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Speaker 1: little bit better. Zay Flowers, quicks polished, play strength, he

528
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Speaker 1: checks all three of those boxes. So Zave Flowers is

529
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Speaker 1: my guy in that like outside of Jack Smith, niggas

530
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Speaker 1: a Flowers to me when I see him, and I

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Speaker 1: make I make this comparison. And I want people to

532
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Speaker 1: think about Antonio Brown before it kind of went off

533
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Speaker 1: the rails room, think about Antonio Brown early into Pittsburgh

534
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Speaker 1: years when he was going crazy running around. When I

535
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Speaker 1: see Zay Flowers, I see Antonio Brown in terms of

536
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Speaker 1: his explosiveness, running routes, catching the ball after the catch,

537
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Speaker 1: maybe some of the I would say, some of the

538
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Speaker 1: anger and enthusiasm that he plays with reminds me a

539
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Speaker 1: lot of that. And when you talk about the characteristics

540
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Speaker 1: to be a great one, I think he hasn't. And

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Speaker 1: if given the opportunity in the right situation where he

542
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Speaker 1: floats from slots outside, he's gonna be a problem. He's

543
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Speaker 1: gonna be handful of because man, he has the goods. Yeah, no,

544
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Speaker 1: it's it's good stuff. Man. Again, we're just looking at

545
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Speaker 1: some statistical stuff here, so not getting to the tight ends,

546
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Speaker 1: not getting into the offensive line, just just kind of

547
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Speaker 1: looking at those positions. We're gonna take a quick break.

548
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Speaker 1: We'll come back. We'll hit on some pass rushers. We'll

549
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Speaker 1: look at the leading interceptors in the back end. We'll

550
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Speaker 1: also look at the leading tacklers. See if we can

551
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Speaker 1: make a couple of defensive takeaways as well. We'll do

552
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Speaker 1: that right after this, all right, Buck, When we look

553
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Speaker 1: at the defensive side of the ball, let's start with

554
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Speaker 1: pass rushers. Let's just go to sacks here, top three

555
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Speaker 1: last year, Bosa with eighteen and a half. You've got

556
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Speaker 1: a Son Reddick with sixteen. You've got Miles Garrett tied

557
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Speaker 1: with sixteen as well. So when you look at Bosa, Reddick, Garrett,

558
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Speaker 1: I mean those are three totally different layers. But looking

559
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Speaker 1: at those three edge rushers, what can you say that

560
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: they have in common? Snap count, quickness and anticipation. The

561
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Speaker 1: ability to get off the ball is a separator. I

562
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: mean they come off the ball with catlike quickness and

563
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Speaker 1: they put immediate pressure on the edge blockers. Then there's

564
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Speaker 1: some different things because you have Joey Bosa and Miles Garrett.

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Speaker 1: Joey Bosa is a technician. He has a great array

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Speaker 1: of moves where he can kind of work you. And

567
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Speaker 1: we talk about mister Miyagi like his wax on, wax off,

568
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Speaker 1: all the stuff that he brings is problematic. Miles Garrett

569
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Speaker 1: is just a freak athlete with tools he does. And

570
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Speaker 1: then Hassim Reddick, you know, and we talked about like

571
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Speaker 1: pass rushers being able to be found at all different

572
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Speaker 1: levels and coming to all different packages. His speed, burst,

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Speaker 1: his balance, his relentlessness. All of those things kind of

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Speaker 1: stand out when I think about all three guys because

575
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Speaker 1: they are so vastly different in how they go about it.

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Speaker 1: So I wrote down three words. Again, these are three

577
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Speaker 1: different guys, just body types right, totally differently built. But

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Speaker 1: I would say of these three guys, the things you

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Speaker 1: cannot argue about them. Number one is their get off,

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Speaker 1: which you referenced. You know, these guys all get off

581
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Speaker 1: the ball. They're explosive. First step, they can go. They

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Speaker 1: can all three corner once they get to the top

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Speaker 1: of their rush. That's a skill man be able to

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Speaker 1: have that ankle flexion and ben to be able to

585
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Speaker 1: corner once you get to the top of your rush.

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Speaker 1: And then number number three, you can combine it just

587
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Speaker 1: effort and finish like these guys don't ever stop. There's

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Speaker 1: just you know, you don't get a break. There's not

589
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: a down you get a break from those guys. Even

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Speaker 1: as talented as Miles Garrett and Nick Bosa are, you know,

591
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: to me, it never stops. And Hassan Reddick as somebody

592
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Speaker 1: who's not real big, you expect that from him. He's

593
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: gonna have more of a motor. He's going to keep

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Speaker 1: keep going down after down all three of these guys. Man,

595
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Speaker 1: there's no off buttons, no no off but na sig

596
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's part of it. DJ. We talked

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Speaker 1: about in scouting pass rushers. Effort and relentlessness goes a

598
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Speaker 1: long way in terms of being able to sack and

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Speaker 1: get the quarterback down, because sometimes it's only your second

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Speaker 1: and third try. In terms of you stop your stell

601
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Speaker 1: mat it, you spend out of it, you come free.

602
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: He runs around a little bit. Boom, didn't you sack him?

603
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Speaker 1: You have to chase him all over the field because

604
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Speaker 1: thinking about the quarterback position to change where we have

605
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: more athletes running around extending plays, and so do you

606
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Speaker 1: have that about you to continue to keep pursuing to

607
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: ware them down, to chase them down, to get them.

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Speaker 1: You have to have that. The underrated trade DJ I

609
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: would say is stamina. We talk about pass rushing and

610
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Speaker 1: how hard it is to rush the past forty forty

611
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Speaker 1: five times a game and be able to keep coming

612
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Speaker 1: at him when you haven't sniffed or tasted the past.

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Speaker 1: But then the fourth quarter you got a chance to

614
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Speaker 1: close it out. Do you have something else left in

615
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Speaker 1: the tank to be able to get it done. These

616
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Speaker 1: guys are finishers, and you know, when you close the

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Speaker 1: game out the fourth quarter, you guys have to be

618
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Speaker 1: able to set the quarterback. And all of those guys

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Speaker 1: had the ability, all right. So I'm writing down some

620
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Speaker 1: of these names as we're going here about guys that

621
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Speaker 1: check it check this list. And it's pretty interesting because

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Speaker 1: if you look at the top right, Will Anderson, he's

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Speaker 1: not He's got the he's got a couple of those

624
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: right to get off and the effort and finished. That's there,

625
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: no question. He is not an elite bender. Once he

626
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Speaker 1: gets to the top of his rush, that's not him.

627
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Speaker 1: That's not really his style. Nothing wrong with that. He's again,

628
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Speaker 1: we give him the grade we give him. We put

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Speaker 1: him all the way up there at the top of

630
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Speaker 1: the board. But if we're just being true to this exercise,

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Speaker 1: the guys who the guys who come through and check

632
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Speaker 1: that list off. You look at Nolan Smith from Georgia, Yeah,

633
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Speaker 1: get off corner effort check check check. Will McDonald, who yes,

634
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Speaker 1: is kind of a fringe first rounder. You know this

635
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: is good for him. You look at what he does

636
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: at of Iowa State. Get off corner effort, check, check, check,

637
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Speaker 1: and I'll give you another one here Felix and adk

638
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: Uzama from State. I think he's gonna go in the

639
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: first round. And when you look at that, you talk

640
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: about the last part, the effort to finish. He's got

641
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: like eight forced fumbles over the last two years. That

642
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: shows you he's getting home and he's finishing to go

643
00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: along with the get off and to go along with

644
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: his ability to corner. Yeah, that's that's the thing. The

645
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: great ones not only get to the quarterback, they find

646
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: a way to knock the ball loose. Having played with

647
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: Bruce Smith and Derek Thompson, watching Reggie White when I

648
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: was there, like just their ability to change the game

649
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: with a look a strip strip sac, you know, being

650
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: able to knock it, always being aware of where the quarterback,

651
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: of where the people hold the ball that matters. And

652
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: um pass rushers we've seen d it's not always just

653
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: the first round guys, the guys that kind of come

654
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: out of different areas of the draft that end up

655
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: being great pass rushers. And so you talk about it

656
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: being able to corner, being able to quickness, all of

657
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: that stuff, Like just the relentless effort, playing hard is

658
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: a skill, and when you play hard and you can

659
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: mind it with high level skills, then you have a

660
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: chance to be a dominant player. Bjari is another one

661
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: who he's another one. He's another one, and he's another one.

662
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: It's funny because like the thing with Bjalarium and all

663
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: these guys, it's hard like with me doing top five lists,

664
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: because so many these guys play these blended positions right

665
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: because you either have edge rusher or you have linebackers.

666
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: Like we no longer have everything categorize enough to really

667
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: give everyone to just do. But bj Lari when you

668
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: say him, and I think he's different than some of

669
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: the other guys that have come out of there in reason,

670
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: he's different than caleban Chase, and he's different than knows that.

671
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: This dude has spectacular off the ball jumps, instincts, quicks

672
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: like he comes off the ball in a hurry. Is

673
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: just where do we line him up in base defense?

674
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: How do we play him? Is he stout enough to

675
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: do this stuff? But when it's time to go hunt

676
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: and he's one of the best. Yeah, And let me

677
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: give you one last name here who's been kind of

678
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: my my sleeper draft crush through this whole process has

679
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: been Jose Ramirez from Eastern Michigan. You know he's got

680
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: ten stocks, he's got juice with his first step. You

681
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: look at him when he gets off the ball. He

682
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: can get off the ball, he can corner, and he

683
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: can finish. So he's somebody again. Third, fourth round. Another

684
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: one who checks all three of those box buck is

685
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: uh Is Yah Yah Dyabi from from Louisville, who has

686
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: kind of been riding under the radar. When you look

687
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: at his numbers six zho three three two sixty three

688
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: he ran four five one. Um. They play a lot

689
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: of that three man front stuff, so he doesn't get

690
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: loosened up as much as you think. He's got thirty

691
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: four inch arms. Buck like, there's a lot to work

692
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: with there when you start going to the checklist, a

693
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: lot of work. And when you watch Louisville's defense, they

694
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: are a disruptive bunch. Many had every way hard, they

695
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: come from everywhere. They bring pressure non stop, and he

696
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: was a big part of that. And they have guys

697
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: in the back end that can back him up so

698
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: they can do that. This is a draft, and we

699
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: talked about it with pastors. If you know exactly what

700
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: you're looking for, you canna find some guys. We talk

701
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: about the strength of the draft and those things. Maybe

702
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: not the the five Stars the Blue Chippers right away

703
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: that you can say, oh, automatically, he's gonna go, but

704
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: we're gonna look back a lot of guys that rack

705
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: up a lot of numbers that Day two's, some day

706
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: threes that kind of come out the crypt and have

707
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: outstanding NFL careers. All right, let's get to some of

708
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: these leading tacklers. And again it's not the be all,

709
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: end all stat for linebackers, but it's one we're gonna

710
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: just go with and see if we come up with anything.

711
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: Foyer Luikon from your Jags led the league in tackles

712
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: last year impressively, Nick Bolt from k C who we

713
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: both saw twice last year, and then Roquan Smith from

714
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: Baltimore coming over after the trade from Chicago. When you

715
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: look at those three linebackers and a Luikon somebody you

716
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: see each and every week, Buck, maybe what are a

717
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: couple of traits there that he possesses Instincts, awareness, strong hands,

718
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: strong hands in terms of like when they hit you

719
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: and wrap you, you go down. They don't miss a

720
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: lot of tackles, and I think that is an underrated

721
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: part of the position. Good tacklers don't miss, man, they is.

722
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: It's a rarity that they missed because they have these

723
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 1: strong hands. When they lock onto your latch onto the jersey,

724
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: you go down. Yeah, I wrote down you know what

725
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 1: you were just talking about their FBI awareness. So instincts

726
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 1: and awareness. You combine those however you want to combine them.

727
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 1: But your eyes work. You know, we talk about a

728
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: blind linebacker doesn't do any good. I don't care if

729
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: he's the fastest guy in the field. He's blind, doesn't help.

730
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: You Gotta have great eyes, you gotta have great instincts.

731
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: And I just wrote on stopping power to kind of

732
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: go along with what you were saying, like there's just

733
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: a difference between guys who catch tackle in other words,

734
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna gather, I'm gonna catch, and I'm going to

735
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: fall back back versus a guy who hits you. There's

736
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: stopping power when we make contact. It's over. That's a wall.

737
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: It's an imaginary wall that's been set up there when

738
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: they hit you and get you on the ground, so um,

739
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: you know, when you look at it from that standpoint.

740
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: It's interesting because every year I fall into this trap

741
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: you get you get seduced by the by the speed

742
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: at the linebacker position. And it's important. You need to

743
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: be able to run to cover because if you can't cover,

744
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: you can't play. But in terms of being you know,

745
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: solid productive players, that's not enough. You gotta have eyes. Man,

746
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: If you don't have eyes, you got no chance because

747
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 1: you have so much misdirection. Uh. Let's think about the

748
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: Philadelphi Eagles and what they do with Jalen Hurts and

749
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: all of the misdirection. You got guard and tackles pulling

750
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: one way, you have the back going the other way.

751
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: You have Jaalen Hurst who's definitely ball faking, and then

752
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: he goes where the pullers go. Your ability to sort

753
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 1: that stuff out in real time, you have to be

754
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: able to do it. You have to be able to

755
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: figure out the penning pool schemes versus guys that are

756
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: running zone schemes and all the other stuff and the trickery.

757
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,240
Speaker 1: And now you can kind of move down the field

758
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: while you're doing these RPOs. Great eye discipline is essentially

759
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: being a great NFL linebacker. Yeah, and it's it's interesting

760
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: when you kind of look at some of these guys

761
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: who have some of those traits in this draft class.

762
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: You know, gosh, I'm just going through some of these

763
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: names here. Actually, Henry Toto from from Alabama goes through

764
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: that list pretty good when you look at it. DJ,

765
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: he's one of my favorites at the position, as instinctive

766
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 1: as they come. His ability to read key diagnosed, get

767
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: through the trash. He doesn't. You know, he's not talked

768
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: about as one of those top players, but when you

769
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: watch him play, you're like, man, he checks off a

770
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: lot of boxes in terms of what it should look like.

771
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: He's a really good player when it comes to being

772
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: able to sort out all of that stuff, get through

773
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: it and make plays in between the tackle a tackle box. Yeah, no,

774
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: it's interesting. There's not a lot of them in this draft.

775
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 1: You know. I go back to Marte Mapu from Sack State,

776
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: who I love. He's somebody that's got excellent eyes, excellent instincts.

777
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: He's obviously, you know, a little bit undersize. He's coming

778
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: off of a peck injury that he's suffered, so we

779
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: haven't got to see him go through the spring process.

780
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: But he's kind of the modern linebacker as a former

781
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: safety who can really run and cover and he sees

782
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: it well, trusts his eyes and goes so interesting. It's

783
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: not the strength of this draft by any stretch, but

784
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: those are a couple of interesting names of you. When

785
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: you kind of run him through that filter, that's what pops. Yeah, pops.

786
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: It's just the ability to see through a sort through

787
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: the trash and make plays. The stopping power of the

788
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: hands underrated aspect. But you have to see it, guys.

789
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: You have to thump. You have to be able to

790
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: thump to be a really good lineback in this league.

791
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: All right, we go to picks. Last year, last one

792
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 1: that will hit on here. Justin Simmons from Denver had six,

793
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 1: Minka had six with the Steelers. CJ. Gardner Johnson, we

794
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: know what he did with Philly Tarika one he had

795
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: six as well. All those guys with six picks, and

796
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 1: then right behind him was Pat Pete, Patrick Peterson with five.

797
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: So you're looking at those guys. Interesting interesting collection of

798
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 1: players there. But what stands out to you, well, first

799
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 1: because you can Kenny rouse him in two different areas.

800
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: One of the like three safeties that are in the

801
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: midst and you have two corners, the safeties, instincts, awareness.

802
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: I feel like we've talked about this for all of it,

803
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: like the instincts, the awareness, the high IQ that is

804
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: necessary that you have to have to make plays in

805
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: this league because you got to be able to anticipate

806
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 1: what's happening and then you gotta trust it in go.

807
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: And so the fearlessness that those guys play with in

808
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: terms of the range and just going for it, all

809
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: of make plays. And I'd say the last part of

810
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: the underrated part is catching the ball. Like catching the

811
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: ball is one thing to be there, DJ's another thing

812
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: to catch it. They come down with the interceptions when

813
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: they get the chances. So I'm just going back and

814
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,919
Speaker 1: thinking about these guys when they were coming out into

815
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: the draft process and some of them just it jumps

816
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: to me when you think about the connection between instincts, intelligence,

817
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: and work ethic. Right, all those things work together because

818
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: you you have guys that you can tell have studied

819
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: what they need to study. They trust their eyes and

820
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: then they have the instincts to see it in real

821
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: time at a fast pace and then go make plays.

822
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: I think it's hard to be it's a it's a

823
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: it's funny, right, everybody says, you know, it's funny. The

824
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: harder I work, the luckier I get. Like, the more

825
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: I study, the more you know my work ethic is

826
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 1: an elite level. Man, It's amazing all of a sudden,

827
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: My instincts are pretty darn good, you know, because you

828
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: see it, you trust it, you go. Those guys are

829
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: all smart. Those guys are all really instinctive on the field.

830
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 1: You talked about the ability to catch, but I think

831
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: maybe the underrated aspect of that. Those guys are all

832
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 1: I think about what they said about Mica Fitzpatrick coming

833
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: out of college, what they said Patrick Peterson coming out

834
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: justin Simmons, like, these guys were leaders. These guys were

835
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: wanted for their not only their intelligence, but their work ethic.

836
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,439
Speaker 1: To me, at those positions, especially at safety, like it's

837
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: not just the biggest, most athletic guys, it's the guys

838
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: that study and know what the heck they're looking at.

839
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: DJ is so much of that, It's so much of

840
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: being able to do it. Because safety is funny because

841
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: I felt like for years in draft room, safeties were

842
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: underrated in terms of, oh, we just take the slow

843
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 1: corner we're moving to safety and it goes. But there's

844
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: so much more to that. Because you're the traffic cup.

845
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: You have to kind of tie everything together, get everyone

846
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: on the same page. You have to understand, Okay, here's

847
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: where the offense is lined up in if this guy moves,

848
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: I gotta check us and get us in disposition. I

849
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: gotta do all of those things in terms of being

850
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: able to move the pieces on the chessboard while also

851
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: honing in on the quarterback and being able to understand. Man,

852
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: this guy when he looks here, he doesn't read off.

853
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: He doesn't look off on the eye. So when I

854
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: see him look to the right, I'm going all of

855
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: that stuff that you're doing in nanoseconds. That matters. And

856
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: so it's one of the positions where I may take

857
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: a lesser athlete but a smarter player, because the smarter

858
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: player is going to play faster than the athlete who

859
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: doesn't have to natural instincts. Yeah, So there's there's a

860
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: couple of guys that jump out when we think about this.

861
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: I know he didn't run great, but Jayar brownbuck and

862
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: it's the same type of thing. Was he turnover king,

863
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: takeaway king? Whatever his nickname is he's always around it.

864
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: The not only do you have like former corner, you know,

865
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: some of the movement skills, the ball skills, the production

866
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: that he has, all that stuff's great. The toughness you

867
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 1: see all that on tape. Didn't run fast, you ran

868
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 1: four six five at the combine. You wish you would

869
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: run faster, but as you said, your eyes are more

870
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: important than than your actual forty time at this point.

871
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: But the character stuff that I got on him in

872
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: terms of the work ethic, like off the charts, like

873
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: there you go, like, let's not make this complicated. This

874
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: guy's got tons of ball production. This guy's is unbelievable

875
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: instincts on the field. And then oh yeah, it's not

876
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: a coincidence. He's got the work ethic to back it up. Yeah,

877
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: he does have all of it DJ when you watch him, Look,

878
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: the time is the time. And it's funny because Branch

879
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: also didn't run a great time. Another one who they

880
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: rave about Alabama, And it's the intellect. It's the intelligence

881
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: to go along with them, and so much of so

882
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: much of playing well at that position is that is

883
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: having great communication skills, having great intelligence, being able to

884
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,439
Speaker 1: take what you see on tape and put it into

885
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: play on the field and trusting. Okay, here it is.

886
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: They've lined up three by one fifteen times. This is

887
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: what they do. This is the play that's coming. Guys.

888
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: I'm going think about Sauce Gardner at corner last year. Buck. Yeah,

889
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: you talk talk football with that guy. You can see

890
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 1: like everybody, oh, the cool nickname and all kinds of

891
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 1: that dude is all smart and real smart. He can

892
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: talk to you through everything. Well beyond that stuff. I mean,

893
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: look at Chaulcy Gardner Johnson and being able to talk

894
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: to him and understand ball and all that other stuff,

895
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: and how he just got it and he made a

896
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: difference for the Eagles when he joined the squad coming

897
00:42:56,160 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: from the Saints, having that ability to not only like

898
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: see it, anticipated go for it and just making the

899
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: plays that are there to be made. Man, when you

900
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: have a guy like that, it changes the dynamics of

901
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 1: your second I we're kind of wrapping this thing up

902
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: here in Buck because we've it's been a fun exercise

903
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: going through this. But I go back to Gosh, when

904
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: I started with the Ravens and H three and Phil

905
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: Savage was there with Ozzie Newsom and that whole the

906
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: whole philosophy, that core philosophy. We've talked about it on here,

907
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: we have done it in a while, but we had

908
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: the STI index. Man, it was speed, toughness instincts every player.

909
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: You know, quarterbacks are a different category with what you

910
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: look for, but if you look at non quarterbacks, speed, toughness, instincts,

911
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: and then I think going through this process, to me,

912
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: I think you obviously character, you know, factors into that

913
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: as well. That's a no brainer. But the underrated aspects

914
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: I'm kind of going through all these players is like intelligence,

915
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: you know, like Bill Belichick's talked about that forever, like

916
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: he wanted to play with guys that not only had

917
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: the athletic ability to make plays, but he wanted to

918
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,720
Speaker 1: have a smart football team. Yeah. Look, the best players

919
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: in the league, Buck, these guys are smart, you know,

920
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 1: like they take it, they can take it from what

921
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 1: they see and then and transition it to what they're

922
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: when they're on the grass. DJ, you can't go wrong

923
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: with smart plays. When you have smart players, it allows

924
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: you to do so much more and not saying that

925
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 1: you have to have more volume in your playbook, but

926
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: it allows you to play the game differently because they

927
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: have the ability to take what they see on the

928
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: board in film room and apply it on the grass,

929
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 1: being able to see it and make adjustments right away.

930
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: It's one of those things why and people don't understand

931
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: because like, there was a time in the league where

932
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: you want to college graduates. I know Chip Kelly when

933
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 1: he was in the league for that. When I was

934
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 1: with the Carolina Panthers, it was important guys graduated college

935
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: because there was a level of intelligence that comes along

936
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: with that. The Patriots have always been big on that

937
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: part of it. And it's because like, smart guys make

938
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: the plays. They may be limited sometimes, but they make

939
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,399
Speaker 1: the plays. They see it, they play faster, and it's

940
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: just a lot easier to do it with high IQ

941
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: guys as opposed to the guys that have a very

942
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: very tough time comprehending and understanding what it is that

943
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: you're asking you to do. It's so true, man, well

944
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: this is like a fun break today. You know. I

945
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: think it is helpful. I think teams, I'm sure some

946
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: do it. I think more should pause, you know, in

947
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: the middle of this thing, as we're a month away

948
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 1: and say okay, let's take a quick break, you know,

949
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: and free agency helps with that. You know, you go

950
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: through the free agency process. You're dealing in the pro

951
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: personnel world before you get back to the draft here.

952
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: But I do think it's helpful. It's a reminder, it

953
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: can help crystallize some thinking as you're trying to sort

954
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: through these players here with a month to go. But

955
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: this is a fun exercise book. Yeah, it's fun. Man.

956
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: I love doing this kind of stuff because sometimes we

957
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: get bogged into doing the stuff that's very popular at

958
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 1: this time, like my drafts and lists and stuff, and

959
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: to get back to talking about what we look for,

960
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 1: evaluating the essence of scouting. That's really what the pot

961
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: is about. The pot is about that stuff, talking about that,

962
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: having those conversations bringing guys in kind of giving a

963
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: peek behind the curtain. Today was one of the conversation that, like,

964
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: if we were working together at lunchtime, this is a

965
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: conversation that we would have when talking about guys. Yeah. No,

966
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: it's kind of your north star, right. You got to

967
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: make sure that you're following or the right path here

968
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: as you're trying to get these guys lined up and

969
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 1: make the best selection for your team. Well, I hope

970
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: you guys have enjoyed this as much as we have.

971
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: We have Anthony Richardson's Pro Day tomorrow on Thursday. That's

972
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: eleven thirty am Eastern on NFL Plus, so you can

973
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 1: check us out there as we finish up the big

974
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 1: four quarterback pro days here. He's the last one to go.

975
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: We'll be on for that, and then we'll be back

976
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: next week with the whole new round of podcasts for you,

977
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: so be on the look out for that as well.

978
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: That's gone for us. We'll see you next time. Right here,

979
00:46:44,160 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: unload the sticks. You're happy