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Speaker 1: You're listening to Taking Stock with Kathleen Hay and Pim

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Speaker 1: Fox on Bloomberg Radio. Argentina, Brazil, Latin America in the

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Speaker 1: news for so many well deserved reasons, and of course,

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Speaker 1: not the least of which for Argentina is the fact

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Speaker 1: after years of the rule of Christina Fernandez de Kirchen

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Speaker 1: This has opened the door again to optimism and investment.

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Speaker 1: Of course, is what Argentina is seeking now, to to

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Speaker 1: This is the rest of the world, including the United States,

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Speaker 1: turning to Argentina. Let's bring in. On that note, Noah

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Speaker 1: the show. Than thanks for having me. Well, first of all, um, Argentina,

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Speaker 1: I mean it must I've always got to be kind

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Speaker 1: a country. It is especially a country that's going through

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Speaker 1: He speaks fluent English, so does his wife. They come

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Speaker 1: He's very international. I think he's very competitive. In fact,

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Speaker 1: we've played a game called paddles, kind of like paddle tennis,

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Speaker 1: And the Chinese have been very assertive, very aggressive, trying

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Speaker 1: some people would say they're ahead of us the United States,

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Speaker 1: ma Met. I'm Kathleen Hayes. This is Bloomberg