Speaker 1: It's time for the Bobby Bones Post Show.
Speaker 2: Here's your host, Bobby Bone.
Speaker 1: Hello. It's actually on a Saturday, so we haven't done
Speaker 1: any Saturday shows, but as a bonus to you, a
Speaker 1: Saturday post show, which sometimes I don't want to clutter
Speaker 1: the feed with too many things at once. I get
Speaker 1: so annoyed when people put up random stuff in our
Speaker 1: feed that I have no idea what it is. And
Speaker 1: it's like Frank Sinatra's cousin talks about New York and
Speaker 1: it's an hour long podcast on Frank's and that's not
Speaker 1: a real podcast, but it's like an hour long podcast
Speaker 1: or something that like the company, and it's like right
Speaker 1: in our feed. That annoys me so much. So even
Speaker 1: if we're putting up lots of stuff, I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: this up on Saturday, because there shouldn't be anything from
Speaker 1: Frank Sinatra's cousin up on our feed today. So everybody,
Speaker 1: thanks for being here on Saturday, even though it's actually Friday.
Speaker 3: Happy to be here.
Speaker 1: Thank you real though, since it is Friday, Like I
Speaker 1: was out late last night. Thomas Rhett had an album
Speaker 1: release that we record as like a national album release
Speaker 1: that airs I think in the afternoons on like all
Speaker 1: of our stations. I don't know when it's airing, probably
Speaker 1: the next couple weeks. And so I like Thomas Rhett.
Speaker 1: So I go to this place and I don't do
Speaker 1: many of these. I like to do them with the
Speaker 1: people that I like because it's very easy if that's
Speaker 1: the case. And so I'm hanging out with Thomas Reft
Speaker 1: for a while, and it doesn't really start till like
Speaker 1: seven thirty seven forty five, which is extremely late for
Speaker 1: me in my life, but it's okay, and so do it.
Speaker 1: And it goes a little long at eight fifteen, eight
Speaker 1: twenty A couple observations. They did not know he was
Speaker 1: going to be there. The people there in that room,
Speaker 1: oh was this rise? Sort of? They also did not
Speaker 1: know I was going to be there. So what they
Speaker 1: were pitched it was people from the Thomas RHTT fan
Speaker 1: club that I would assume we're from here or an
Speaker 1: hour and a half or two hours less away. They
Speaker 1: would drive it. They's say, Thomas Reht's new albums coming
Speaker 1: out in a couple of weeks. We actually will play
Speaker 1: it for you guys first, if you want to come.
Speaker 1: And I would think fifteen twenty people, which I had
Speaker 1: one hundred people there. Oh wow, just to listen to music.
Speaker 1: I'm not listening to anybody's music. I'm not driving ten
Speaker 1: minutes just to listen to somebody's pre music. Yeah, now
Speaker 1: maybe jaded.
Speaker 3: They're getting it early.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wait two weeks. But again, they spent their even
Speaker 1: just listening to this. I wouldn't do that for anybody.
Speaker 1: I wish that I had that kind of passion for
Speaker 1: like an artist, that I would go sit and listen
Speaker 1: to their music early, and then the cool thing was
Speaker 1: they listened and then So how I always get screwed
Speaker 1: in these situations, because I'll make this about me for
Speaker 1: a second, is that the guy goes up before me
Speaker 1: who was hosting the tracks, This wasn't recorded for any show,
Speaker 1: and he goes, hey, we got a surprise for you. Guys.
Speaker 1: They're like, it's Tom's rett. He goes it's Bollybones. And
Speaker 1: so it's met with a very tepid response. Right, So
Speaker 1: I wish they would have said nothing about a surprise.
Speaker 1: Who gives a crap about me? If they're there for
Speaker 1: a Thomas Rhett fan club party, Like, who cares about me?
Speaker 1: What would have been nice is Hey, cool, thank you guys,
Speaker 1: and then I just walk on like, what's so, guys,
Speaker 1: say it's Bobby. We once want to come by and
Speaker 1: say whatever, but because it was like, we got a
Speaker 1: surprise for you guys. And they're at a Thomas Rat
Speaker 1: listening party and they're in Nashville and they I can
Speaker 1: feel the like the air in a positive way. Go
Speaker 1: can kind of get sucked out of the room ready
Speaker 1: for Thomas Rhett, Bobby Bones.
Speaker 3: Listen. Then did you get to iding them back up again?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I had to feel that not without meat
Speaker 1: being reminded. Then nobody gives a crap and I already
Speaker 1: know that, but like, I don't need to ship to
Speaker 1: my face every day, especially when I'm there working voluntarily.
Speaker 4: How was the reaction for Thomas rest?
Speaker 1: It's great. But I walk out and I'm like, what up?
Speaker 1: And they're like, oh, that's how about that. It's like
Speaker 1: seeing your mailman at Walmart. It's kind of weird, but
Speaker 1: you know it's still a thing. You're like, this is
Speaker 1: a mailman, not anymore does mailman clothes? That's crazy. They
Speaker 1: can't believe that's what I feel like. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: your maleman at Walmart? You can't believe you see me.
Speaker 1: Third of them probably didn't even know how it was. So
Speaker 1: then I'm I'm like, well, I also have a surprise
Speaker 1: for you guys. At this point, they're like, I'm a
Speaker 1: little unfairly it's unfair. I'm a little unfairly frustrated at
Speaker 1: my setup, and I'm I'm there just to mess with
Speaker 1: people at this point, and t R is outside the door.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, I gotta get a surprise. And so
Speaker 1: now they're ready for Thomas Rhett and and I pick
Speaker 1: up my phone and I go, I got Thomas right
Speaker 1: on FaceTime. And then that's funny, and they're like and
Speaker 1: then something they're like, ooh, and I'm like, he's gonna
Speaker 1: answer some questions on FaceTime for you guys. They're totally
Speaker 1: confused at this point because they've been led to think,
Speaker 1: one Thomas Rhet's there, here comes White Arcle. Then second,
Speaker 1: here comes Thomas rhdd again. Oh but he's on FaceTime.
Speaker 1: He's not even here, And so.
Speaker 3: You think of that, like right when you.
Speaker 1: I thought of that right whenever. My the emotion for
Speaker 1: me existing was not a positive.
Speaker 3: That's quick.
Speaker 1: I don't need it to be positive. I just don't
Speaker 1: want it to be negative. So and I'm like, hey,
Speaker 1: Tom's Ray. You got a lot of people here. They
Speaker 1: paid well, they didn't pay anything to come, but they've
Speaker 1: been listening to music and they'd give it like moderate reviews.
Speaker 1: And the people in the crowd are like, that's not true,
Speaker 1: that's not true. And so I turned the phone and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm just kidding. He's not on the phone.
Speaker 1: Still haven't said he's there. I'm just like, he's not
Speaker 1: on the phone. So again they think I'm messing with
Speaker 1: him again, that he's even on FaceTime. At this point,
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying life again, Like it takes me that long
Speaker 1: to get back to enjoy what I'm doing. And then
Speaker 1: I was like, I would never do that. I would
Speaker 1: never lie. So you guys didn't like it, but I
Speaker 1: was like some of it was mid though, right, And
Speaker 1: I know Thomas Red's right out ouside the door, and
Speaker 1: they're like no, and I'm like, well, that's good because
Speaker 1: here's Thomas right, And they're like, ah, but I had
Speaker 1: to get it bad to get my groove back, and
Speaker 1: that's how I did it by messing with them.
Speaker 3: That works. I felt good, I feel it I wasn't
Speaker 3: even there.
Speaker 1: Here's the worst one. If you come to Nashville, there's
Speaker 1: some things that I would recommend as a tourist if
Speaker 1: you're coming for the music part of this city that
Speaker 1: you do. The Ryman's always cool. Sometimes you come and
Speaker 1: you can't. Maybe you don't like the artists playing a
Speaker 1: full show there, but it's cool to go at least
Speaker 1: by the Ryman. If you can tour the Rymen, that's
Speaker 1: pretty cool. Not that it's anything cool to see with
Speaker 1: your eyes, like you know, Elvis's joxtrap isn't hanging up,
Speaker 1: but it's church pews and a concert venue that's called
Speaker 1: the Mother Chuir. Just to have said you've gone through
Speaker 1: it right. It's not a museum. There's some little stuff
Speaker 1: that's cool. Go to a show if you can, if
Speaker 1: it's somebody you like. I would not say go to
Speaker 1: the Ryman just to go to a show. If it's
Speaker 1: somebody you don't like. Touring the Opry awesome. Even if
Speaker 1: you don't go to an Opery show, I would say
Speaker 1: go to the Opry. The Opry is fantastic, and the
Speaker 1: bigger stars are usually on weeknights, Tuesday nights, Wednesday nights,
Speaker 1: whenever the night is because they're not touring, and most
Speaker 1: artists are touring. They make their money Thursday, Friday, Saturday nights.
Speaker 1: But even if you do the daytime tour orts the opry,
Speaker 1: that tour is a plus. Then there's there's a listening
Speaker 1: room cafe, which is cool if you want to like
Speaker 1: see a songwriter around a lot of artists that played that.
Speaker 1: But the Bluebird really cool, really special. And the Bluebird
Speaker 1: I was introduced to it mostly from Nashville the TV
Speaker 1: show I didn't live here. I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: about the freaking Bluebird. I understand now the significance of it.
Speaker 1: I've played it ten times. But the Bluebird, it's in
Speaker 1: a strip mall. It is nothing sexy. Whenever you pull up.
Speaker 3: To it, you're almost confused.
Speaker 1: It's like you're getting a check cash. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: you get a yeah, it's like five percent, you know whatever.
Speaker 1: So you're gonna go get you check a few days
Speaker 1: early and then go over to the Bluebird. But the
Speaker 1: Bluebird is really cool because, very much like there's other rooms,
Speaker 1: the Bluebird has more of a legacy. Where like Garth
Speaker 1: was found basically at the Bluebird. Tracy Lauren. It's like
Speaker 1: part of his A lot of artists played The Bluebird's
Speaker 1: impossible to get in because it's so small and why
Speaker 1: it's it's weird but amazing for an artist. There's two
Speaker 1: ways you play at one is I think the last
Speaker 1: time I played it, I had Hunter Hayes play with me,
Speaker 1: one of the the dude from Sugarland, Larkin Poe, two
Speaker 1: girls that freaking rock and you sit in a circle
Speaker 1: looking at each other, and everybody's sitting around you, but
Speaker 1: they are right on top of you. If they're eating
Speaker 1: a pancake, you can hear them chew. And the first
Speaker 1: time you played it's so weird because the people are
Speaker 1: right on you and you play music. It's really cool,
Speaker 1: vibes different, really cool, hard to get in. And then
Speaker 1: sometimes people will bring friends and they'll be like, hey,
Speaker 1: I brought my friend, Like I think post Alone showed
Speaker 1: up there right and played at the Bluebird. You never know.
Speaker 1: They have a stage set up and they will at
Speaker 1: times do like rounds on the stage. I prefer when
Speaker 1: they're in the middle. But they also have a small
Speaker 1: stage where like one person can play the little open
Speaker 1: mic switch one person goes up, or if there's a
Speaker 1: couple of people and they just want to do a
Speaker 1: guitar pool type thing goes around again, surprises show up,
Speaker 1: and the surprises are at times awesome, like still like
Speaker 1: you might get a Garth, you might get a post Wall,
Speaker 1: you might get a Taylor Swift. That's happened in the
Speaker 1: last few years. There's a great documentary on The Bluebird.
Speaker 1: I'm in it a lot because I'm lucky enough to
Speaker 1: have played it a bunch of times and enjoy and
Speaker 1: I have learned the history of it. It's on Amazon,
Speaker 1: but it is really good. And so before I went
Speaker 1: on my last tour, I was working on some new
Speaker 1: music and I was like, hey, I think it needs
Speaker 1: to go play a few places. So I called The
Speaker 1: Bluebird and I was like, Hey, is it cool if
Speaker 1: I come and just do a couple of songs on
Speaker 1: the stage night like Wednesday night. They're like, yeah, cool,
Speaker 1: just let us know when you get to the back
Speaker 1: door and it's packed. It's always packed. So I get
Speaker 1: to the back door and they let me in and
Speaker 1: here the guy go, you guys ready for this, And
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: Known all around the world. No no, no, no, no
Speaker 1: no no. In my head, I'm like, please stop, because
Speaker 1: these people, they for sure there's heavy odds they don't
Speaker 1: know who I am, or they don't know play music,
Speaker 1: or they're here to catch some magical surprise guests. They're like,
Speaker 1: he's heard by millions of people, he has he's won cmas, ACMs,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is the worst build up ever.
Speaker 1: And he goes give it and they think George Strait's
Speaker 1: about to walk out. I know they think somebody massive
Speaker 1: is about to walk out at how the guy has
Speaker 1: set it up and the environment that they are in,
Speaker 1: and they're like, here he is, Bobby Bones. I swear
Speaker 1: to god, I just want to go home. I wanted
Speaker 1: to walk out the back. I wanted to not show up.
Speaker 1: I think that had been a better surprise if I
Speaker 1: didn't come out than if I did.
Speaker 3: I thought you were around to say that maybe somebody
Speaker 3: else was there in the house all that, and they
Speaker 3: were about to walk past me and be like, what's up, Bobby,
Speaker 3: and it's like, no worse.
Speaker 1: I would rather that would have much rather that happened.
Speaker 1: That had have been much cooler, because then the people
Speaker 1: would not have been disappointed but when they're building it
Speaker 1: up like known all over America in the world, and
Speaker 1: then they go, yeah, want some cmas and ACMs, but
Speaker 1: it's not the same as like what Christapleton wins, and
Speaker 1: they're ready for Tennessee whiskey, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I'm like, my grandma is naked it Oh yeah, true,
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: But they I'm sure they laughed and enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: I won them back eventually, but I was also playing
Speaker 1: a couple of new songs and one of them was
Speaker 1: just okay, but I can't ever tell if people are
Speaker 1: gonna think they're funny until I played them. But I
Speaker 1: like that, And so they were trying to do me
Speaker 1: a solid by building me up. That's a very kind
Speaker 1: thing to do. But I wish what they would have
Speaker 1: said is, hey, this is really cool Bobby Bones here,
Speaker 1: it's gonna play some comedy music for you guys. In
Speaker 1: case you don't know who he is, he's an American
Speaker 1: idol for four years instead of the other way. Because
Speaker 1: that it just chops my legs out from under me.
Speaker 1: I can never get back. I can never get it back.
Speaker 1: So it was a bit of that last night. But
Speaker 1: then I got to screw with that crowd and be like,
Speaker 1: is that FaceTime?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like that works in your favor to
Speaker 3: have no.
Speaker 1: No, no favor. Well, what if I'd take it back.
Speaker 1: I would never do that again.
Speaker 3: Like ying's funny though, Man.
Speaker 1: That's survival. So I did that until eight fifteen. Had
Speaker 1: a playoff softball game at nine last night.
Speaker 3: Oh I went straight from that to the game.
Speaker 1: Yes, wow, I know I've never played a nine game,
Speaker 1: but it was the playoffs, and so it was like
Speaker 1: the semis of the championship week is next week, and
Speaker 1: so hall Butt North play change in the parking lot,
Speaker 1: have like ten minutes. It's big lightning, big lightning. There
Speaker 1: was a lightning crack that hit so hard I thought
Speaker 1: it was a gun shot like fifty feet away. I
Speaker 1: didn't see that, but it was a boom crack.
Speaker 3: They never called the games a cancel because the lightning.
Speaker 1: I want to make the twenty five bucks and we
Speaker 1: all wanted to play so rock and roll. We ended
Speaker 1: up losing by one run in the last inning, which sucked.
Speaker 1: What sucked even worse is I didn't get to bed
Speaker 1: till like midnight or so last night, which is fine
Speaker 1: because by the time you go nine to ten, is
Speaker 1: the game ten to ten, thirty, get home, shower eleven.
Speaker 1: By the time you really get to sleep, it's eleven
Speaker 1: forty five or so and so so.
Speaker 3: Now, since that was the playoff and y'all lost, what's
Speaker 3: next for you and the team?
Speaker 1: I start season two their Wednesday night games instead of
Speaker 1: Thursday in a couple of weeks, which is much easier.
Speaker 1: A lot of Thursdays will leave town Earth, Yeah, go.
Speaker 4: To outer space.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that was the night last night. It was
Speaker 1: fun though, Like it was fun playing soft ball. My
Speaker 1: knee all bloody, Like I can't do anything without my
Speaker 1: knees getting bloody. I dive too much. I'm too much
Speaker 1: of an adult to be on the ground that much.
Speaker 3: Were you diving because you were running the bases?
Speaker 1: Or you're no, I don't, I don't sleep.
Speaker 3: Oh no, you you dove to catch a ball?
Speaker 1: Yes, because that is very instinctual.
Speaker 3: In that we're what position were you playing?
Speaker 1: I got to play first last night, and it was
Speaker 1: amazing because I can see freaking eight lights out, lights out.
Speaker 1: I can play first base as good as anybody scooping
Speaker 1: on freaking Megan plays backward on the foul line. I
Speaker 1: can't see in the outfield, so I'm beat b outfielder
Speaker 1: a plus first baseman, but diving forth because those ball
Speaker 1: they're just hit quick, and so that's all instinct. I
Speaker 1: know when I'm running the basis, there's no chance I'm
Speaker 1: going to slide. I don't care how close it is,
Speaker 1: not gonna do it. But if a ball's hit, you're
Speaker 1: just like jump go. Someoneees a bloody took a picture
Speaker 1: of if it though couldn't do it with that documenting it.
Speaker 1: It's on my Instagram, my story. But by the time
Speaker 1: you see this, it won't be up anymore. But uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was that was the last night.
Speaker 3: Okay, because it's Saturday.
Speaker 1: They're hearing this.
Speaker 3: They're hearing it on Saturday.
Speaker 1: The picture won't be up two days later.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm gonna go look right now, don't you can.
Speaker 1: Look right now? But yeah, so season was over. But
Speaker 1: our little ragtag group of people we did pretty good
Speaker 1: considering a lot of those guys on that team had
Speaker 1: not played in a long time. I hadn't played in
Speaker 1: years on like that kind of league. So and I'm
Speaker 1: trying to find somebody to like coach me in basketball
Speaker 1: before I go play Men's I can tell you about
Speaker 1: that later. Yeah, so I'm here. It's good.
Speaker 3: Sweet till season two.
Speaker 1: Wednesdays, it's gonna be so much better.
Speaker 4: Unless it's at nine o'clock Wednesday.
Speaker 1: I probably won't do those. Okay, this was just a place.
Speaker 1: You know, you wouldn't probably show up to a late
Speaker 1: late game unless it was a big one.
Speaker 3: Well also season two, some of the late late.
Speaker 4: Sometimes, Yeah, I go, no matter what.
Speaker 3: Oh is that because of also temperature? Because is it?
Speaker 3: The weather's gonna get better? So you can play earlier.
Speaker 1: They start at six. Yeah, every game starts the league
Speaker 1: and there's like three fields there, so everything starts at six.
Speaker 1: And we just got caught up in that nine game.
Speaker 1: Try to wake up earlier than you.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, you get up earlier. You worry
Speaker 5: about things more than me. I'm like, yeah, I'll just
Speaker 5: take a nap the next day. You You're like, I
Speaker 5: got all these dots me. I'm like, I got at
Speaker 5: appointment with the.
Speaker 1: Nap dot dot free. Okay, let's take a break. Come back.
Speaker 1: Glad you guys are here, if you're here on the podcast,
Speaker 1: if you like this, if you're able to even listen
Speaker 1: to this on the weekend. Put a little put a
Speaker 1: little flower up there, lo emoji on whatever my last
Speaker 1: post is, I will see that and I will in
Speaker 1: my heart go thank you. Okay, take a break in
Speaker 1: my head right now, and I'll do this at times
Speaker 1: just to try to, I guess, gather my brain strength back.
Speaker 1: You know the song burning down the House, cool babyl
Speaker 1: watch y'all thinking I know who the artist is. I
Speaker 1: cannot think of it. It has been on the old
Speaker 1: tip of the old tongue for an hour, and I
Speaker 1: feel and I'll do this at times that we mentioned
Speaker 1: on the show before, where it's like I could look
Speaker 1: it up very easily, look it up, don't tell me.
Speaker 1: But in my head it's like something about Staircase, like
Speaker 1: I know it Staircase Flaming. But then I think it's
Speaker 1: it's a British group. It's like a funny name like
Speaker 1: a I'll get to it, but I'm not gonna look
Speaker 1: it up. I may come back Monday still not knowing
Speaker 1: because I will not look it up. Cool baby. No,
Speaker 1: I don't want to have the whole point of this
Speaker 1: is I wan't to hear anything about it. I don't
Speaker 1: even think about it. Don't say anything. I don't even
Speaker 1: know what you did. I don't want to hit because
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure it out. I'm digging in my brain.
Speaker 1: I know it's in the recesses of it's deep in
Speaker 1: the well. Lassie, go to the well, save the band,
Speaker 1: pull them out of there. It's not neon. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get back to it. Carrie is doing Idol. She's
Speaker 1: taking Katie Paris spot Carrie Underwood. Good for her. She
Speaker 1: was obviously on Idol and the and she's always been
Speaker 1: someone too. Even when I was on the show for
Speaker 1: a bunch of years, she would always come back and
Speaker 1: do stuff. She wasn't someone who like avoided it. Some
Speaker 1: of those artists they went to a phase Boom idol Boom,
Speaker 1: did not want to be known as the Idol person
Speaker 1: because they were like, I built my own career. Then
Speaker 1: they would go back and do some idol stuff. If
Speaker 1: they were promoting a project, then they would just be like,
Speaker 1: I'm embracing idol. Now you get to go back and
Speaker 1: be a judge and make I don't know if she's
Speaker 1: doing twenty million or not, but good for her, and
Speaker 1: she'll be really good at it. Carrie's one of those artists.
Speaker 1: I like Carrie a lot, but if you see her
Speaker 1: in real life, which I do at times, and she's
Speaker 1: on camera, it's two different people. Extremely shy and quiet
Speaker 1: when she's doing human Carrie.
Speaker 3: And then when she needs to she's performing awesome as
Speaker 3: a performer, even when.
Speaker 1: She would do the awards or she if she's you know,
Speaker 1: on stage, Yeah, she's excellent on camera. So really kind
Speaker 1: I afford. I think that'll be fun. That show just
Speaker 1: keeps on going, man, Luke just keeps cash those checks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder how many more years it has.
Speaker 1: So when it went to ABC, I was on one, two, three,
Speaker 1: and four, Like I never did the Fox version. It's
Speaker 1: when they did ABC that I started over there. And
Speaker 1: even my second season when they signed me to a
Speaker 1: full time deal, well they were like, we don't know
Speaker 1: if the show's coming back for the second season, but
Speaker 1: if so, we want to hire you full time. Because
Speaker 1: the first season I did like four episodes sporadically. Second
Speaker 1: season I was there every episode, but even then they
Speaker 1: were like, I don't know if it's going to come back,
Speaker 1: And then season three they were like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's fifty to fifty season four, we have to make
Speaker 1: sure the judges signed. We don't know if I can.
Speaker 1: It's like season seven or something. Now, as long as
Speaker 1: the show makes money, that's all that matters. And Carrie's
Speaker 1: going over that's really cool. It's not a hard job.
Speaker 1: It's just a very time consuming job, meaning you have
Speaker 1: to go, especially if you're not in La where like
Speaker 1: Lionel and Katie had it a bit easier because they
Speaker 1: just drive down the road. But especially when I was
Speaker 1: on it, because I would have to be there every
Speaker 1: anytime Luke was there, I was there. I wasn't on
Speaker 1: a camera as much, but I would have to go
Speaker 1: and be there. And so but I'm leaving here, Yes,
Speaker 1: I'd be gone forever. So we had to fly to
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. That's probably where Luke and I got to
Speaker 1: know each other the best. It wasn't even being on
Speaker 1: set of just traveling to get We'd just be on
Speaker 1: a plane. And I've always liked Luca and we've known Luke,
Speaker 1: and I've known Luke professionally, but I think just traveling
Speaker 1: so much back and forth, I think that's probably where
Speaker 1: we forged our relationship. And also Luke was the one
Speaker 1: that was on time always. I was always on time,
Speaker 1: but I had to because I was low Man, that
Speaker 1: total Paul low Man. Ryan always on time, but Ryan
Speaker 1: wasn't always there. Ryan, he would strategically be able to
Speaker 1: shoot a lot of his stuff at the same time,
Speaker 1: where the judges had to be there for everybody, but
Speaker 1: Ryan's doing like talking to specific people outside, especially if
Speaker 1: we're not hosting the live show, like sixty percent of
Speaker 1: the show is, they're in cities, they're doing Hollywood Week,
Speaker 1: and so Ryan could strategically have when he was there
Speaker 1: and knock it all out. Never late, expert, best prompter
Speaker 1: reader I have ever seen, like the Tom Brady, Michael
Speaker 1: Jordan of being a host. He would run fifty screens,
Speaker 1: never have to do a second one. It was awesome
Speaker 1: to watch Ryan never late. I could not be late
Speaker 1: because I'm low man on the totem pole. Luke never late.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it be a battle between Katie and Lionel, and
Speaker 1: I love Lionel. Lionel was the nicest, like sweetest human
Speaker 1: versus the most famous like he did. I don't want
Speaker 1: to say didn't have to be because that's just weird
Speaker 1: to say, but he could have been the biggest diva
Speaker 1: in the whole world, and he was amazing. I loved
Speaker 1: I love Lionel so much. My theory is Kaye would
Speaker 1: be so late. Line would be like, screw this, just
Speaker 1: out later. Sometimes they would be hours late, hours hours,
Speaker 1: And there were times where I'm like, can we just
Speaker 1: start my shooting because I didn't need to be in
Speaker 1: there with them, because what I would be doing if
Speaker 1: they were like wavering on what song to sing, or
Speaker 1: if I'm doing like a personal piece, like getting to
Speaker 1: know them, right, because I was utility guy in every sense,
Speaker 1: which was very apparent when Ryan got sick the one
Speaker 1: time he's ever missed I hope. But I also had
Speaker 1: done a lot of other things on that show, and
Speaker 1: the people just want to show up, and I'll be like,
Speaker 1: can I don't even need them, Like, I know you
Speaker 1: have the seven people you need me to talk to.
Speaker 1: Can I do that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, there would be But and that Hollywood's weird in
Speaker 1: that it's weird anyway. The people there are weird. It's
Speaker 1: a different culture if I'm comparing it to the Nashville
Speaker 1: culture that we're in, where people are famous whatever that
Speaker 1: means in Nashville. If you have a massive entourage. You
Speaker 1: fake it like you don't, meaning you gotta be like
Speaker 1: normal even though you're not, even though you have fourteen
Speaker 1: people that travel with you. If it's security, if it's
Speaker 1: your all your boys, all your girls, your stylist, you
Speaker 1: fake it like you don't. You gotta be like super
Speaker 1: relatable because I'm Nashville, even though you don't in La.
Speaker 1: If you can't even afford it, you fake it like
Speaker 1: you have it, and you take everybody with you, and
Speaker 1: you try to present yourself as a bigger deal. And
Speaker 1: what I I did not know in the early days,
Speaker 1: when I was just hustling to get anybody to put
Speaker 1: me on TV, they would be like, Hey, we're having
Speaker 1: a meeting on this lot with this executive two o'clock
Speaker 1: and my agent's in La at the TI. I'd be like,
Speaker 1: you mean to go, I'm good. I don't need I
Speaker 1: wasn't doing it to be like. I just didn't want
Speaker 1: them to drop across town. It sucks, So I just
Speaker 1: go buy myself backpack show up and they'd always be like,
Speaker 1: where is there? Your team not coming? I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: they're good. I figured we're just going to talk. But
Speaker 1: what I found out later was they found that so
Speaker 1: refreshing because nobody did that. It wasn't strategy on my part.
Speaker 1: It's just how I would do things. Wanted it to
Speaker 1: be super efficient, don't want them to be late to
Speaker 1: make me look bad, don't want to put them out
Speaker 1: because we're probably just gonna do level surface stuff anyway.
Speaker 1: But I think it got me a couple jobs to
Speaker 1: where I would just show up with a backpack and
Speaker 1: be like, hey, everybody looks goalie g and it really
Speaker 1: wasn't the move. But then I kind of later understood
Speaker 1: that that was the move at times that it helped
Speaker 1: because everybody shows up with an agent, a second agent,
Speaker 1: a manager, an assistant. Because in that culture, even if
Speaker 1: you don't have it, you want to present yourself like
Speaker 1: you're big and you're something and you're popping. You happen
Speaker 1: it opposite here because if you are like Luke, Bryan
Speaker 1: will just show it by himself. And I know Luke
Speaker 1: I use it because he just came do But Luke
Speaker 1: has forty two people that want to make sure that
Speaker 1: he's getting places on time. They want to make sure
Speaker 1: that he's doing his job right. It's not that he
Speaker 1: demands a be around him. It's just like there's a
Speaker 1: lot of people because Luke is the CEO of a
Speaker 1: major company and that companies him.
Speaker 3: I feel like the last time he was here, he's
Speaker 3: throw like his team was like scrambling, like trying to
Speaker 3: find him, and he is already here, just like by himself.
Speaker 1: That's a bad example because we know him. But yes,
Speaker 1: but that's the difference in the two. It is a
Speaker 1: bizarre world. And I get carsick every time I'm in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles because all you do is sit in traffic
Speaker 1: all the time. And nobody's on time in Los Angeles ever,
Speaker 1: And it's not because except for you and Luke well To,
Speaker 1: our shoot would always be I'd be way early because
Speaker 1: they knew how bad traffic would be. And Scooba, I
Speaker 1: think you could probably lend a bit to this conversation.
Speaker 1: Not anybody's asked for me to talk about it, But
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, nobody's on time. But I don't think
Speaker 1: it's because everybody's like I don't value anyone's time. Traffic
Speaker 1: can be forty minutes or an hour twenty and you
Speaker 1: have no idea.
Speaker 6: You don't know you could be you could think that
Speaker 6: you're it's gonna be forty minutes, and then you're sitting
Speaker 6: in it and all of a sudden, a wrec happens,
Speaker 6: or there's construction at the worst time possible, or there's
Speaker 6: a police chase and so everyone has to stop. It's
Speaker 6: just all these unknown variables. So yeah, But also the
Speaker 6: part that would bother me when I worked in LA
Speaker 6: because people were always late and I was earlier, like you.
Speaker 6: When they would come in late, it was never like hey,
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, I'm late. They just walking with sunglasses like
Speaker 6: I'm here, and I'm like, yeah, oh.
Speaker 1: There's a need to like present yourself as big, bigger
Speaker 1: than you are.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're lucky that I'm here, and I'm like, oh, okay, cool.
Speaker 1: When I did Dancing with Stars and trust me, they
Speaker 1: used the word star loosely, especially with me, even I
Speaker 1: was like, well, okay, this is this is fun. Like
Speaker 1: a lot of the folks there felt the need to
Speaker 1: like present themselves with big groups for all the time.
Speaker 1: I remember thinking, man, one that much mc hammer, that's
Speaker 1: how I went broke. And then two. I mean I
Speaker 1: had like one person and it was Mike d who
Speaker 1: was living with me in a shared apartment and halftime,
Speaker 1: he wouldn't go because I was like, dude at work good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So yeah, that that environment. But that's a lot of
Speaker 1: travel for somebody like carried. But it's worth it because
Speaker 1: she's making a ton of money. But I just was
Speaker 1: always jealous that they lived there and got to drive
Speaker 1: down the road and we had to fly there, get
Speaker 1: there the day before, stay in a hotel to be
Speaker 1: prepared to go. So it makes she move in La
Speaker 1: maybe Nah, you know what, there's only no and there's
Speaker 1: only like you go for like three weeks in the
Speaker 1: summer and because you go to the cities, you bounce
Speaker 1: around cities and then you do like extreme because these
Speaker 1: crews want to shoot it all in a block so
Speaker 1: they don't have to pay for crews in space for
Speaker 1: a lot of time. So they're not doing like eight
Speaker 1: shoots over nine weeks. They're trying to do as few
Speaker 1: shoots as possible for as long as they possibly can,
Speaker 1: but to get it all over with so they can
Speaker 1: get in production and then they're not paying for more space.
Speaker 4: That makes sense, but.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of time, but the work's pretty easy.
Speaker 1: Just I'm like, yeah, you suck, Nope, you're good. But
Speaker 1: the judges did get to have their own opinions. Like
Speaker 1: I never saw and I was in there. I never
Speaker 1: saw a producer sway any of them. I would see
Speaker 1: a producer be disappointed in them and afterward telling them like, man,
Speaker 1: I was really rooting for them, And I would be like, man,
Speaker 1: if I was a producer, I'd like nudge one of them,
Speaker 1: if somebody was really good. But they honest to God.
Speaker 1: From everything that I saw and I was in the
Speaker 1: middle of it, I never saw a producer, an executive producer,
Speaker 1: anybody go to one of them and go, we really
Speaker 1: want the person to get through. Let's push them through,
Speaker 1: not once. And I would have been telling them that
Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, because I just want to want
Speaker 1: to get TV. But there are also legal rules to
Speaker 1: these shows. When I did Dancing with the Stars, they
Speaker 1: couldn't tell me how I was doing. They just tell
Speaker 1: you if you survive. There was a lawsuit back there's
Speaker 1: a game show. It's like the six thousand dollars Question,
Speaker 1: whatever it's called. They found they were cheating, so then
Speaker 1: they had to create laws where you can give nobody
Speaker 1: advantages whenever you're competing for money on a game show.
Speaker 1: If it's on public airwaves type thing. So they never
Speaker 1: told me. I thought I was. I never got put
Speaker 1: in the bottom three. Ever. On Dancing with the Stars,
Speaker 1: I was like, this is crazy, like I was there
Speaker 1: to win, but also it wasn't a very good dancer.
Speaker 1: But I never got put in the bottom three. And
Speaker 1: then after it was way over months and months. One
Speaker 1: of the executives when on my last season of vital
Speaker 1: he was like, we've never seen anything like that. I
Speaker 1: was like, in what way he goes, I'm gonna say dump,
Speaker 1: but you know the word he said. He said, you
Speaker 1: could have went out on your final lance, taken a
Speaker 1: dump on the floor and won, because that's how fan vote.
Speaker 1: You were above everybody else on this show. And I
Speaker 1: was like, well, but if I were taking a dump
Speaker 1: on the floor, that's probably legal.
Speaker 3: If I get this qualified, yeah, it might get some
Speaker 3: weird too.
Speaker 1: You know that would have been weird. What is he doing?
Speaker 3: Where do they take all the celebrities there? We'd have
Speaker 3: to roll you down to Cedars sign I don't you
Speaker 3: need a fifty fifty camera?
Speaker 4: That is where they go.
Speaker 1: I ordered some Uber eights this morning and had it
Speaker 1: sent here, had a little tea and a little box
Speaker 1: of like boiled eggs whatever, And I did the stupid
Speaker 1: thing where I sent it in my house. You guys
Speaker 1: ever do that order uber eates or door to ash
Speaker 1: and you send it here somewhere else and you send
Speaker 1: it somewhere else.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, No, I was trying to get stuff delivered
Speaker 3: to the house the other day and I sent it
Speaker 3: to my daughter's old school.
Speaker 1: So for old school.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know until they sent They they said
Speaker 3: that they send you a picture confirmation that's been dropped off.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, what the that's the lobby of because
Speaker 3: I guess I had had something delivered the last time
Speaker 3: I had used that app or for whatever reason, that's
Speaker 3: the address that hold up. And so then I had
Speaker 3: to get in the car, drive to the school, find
Speaker 3: the bag to get it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've had work before, and they send the
Speaker 1: picture ab outside the building like order today. If I
Speaker 1: don't remember to change it back to my home address,
Speaker 1: they're going to send it back up here. Well school
Speaker 1: wasn't that far but okay, well I'm not driving to work.
Speaker 1: I just left the back.
Speaker 3: Okay, if it was work, I wouldn't There's no way
Speaker 3: that wouldn't be worth it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, my bag of like sadies, my chicken kebabs.
Speaker 1: They just sat at the front door. It's like a Friday.
Speaker 4: Who knows who raccoon got it?
Speaker 1: God, I feel so stupid when I do that. Let's
Speaker 1: see here. I have have weird bites all over my body.
Speaker 1: I have like three or three. I have one here?
Speaker 1: Can you see that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I set a picture.
Speaker 3: Look like I say to my doctor, nudes was a mosquito.
Speaker 1: I was like, do I have shingles? Because I've had
Speaker 1: shingles before and they were like here on my ribs
Speaker 1: And He's like, they look like chiggers. Where have I
Speaker 1: been where I would get suggar? Mm hmm, Yeah, that
Speaker 1: actually might be the I dive a lot.
Speaker 4: That's where you got it?
Speaker 1: Wow, because I look, it's all through here. How did
Speaker 1: you know that so quick? You get chickens playing soccer? No,
Speaker 1: but that's exactly what it is. I my mind never
Speaker 1: got there.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was blaming my wife for a hike she took
Speaker 1: me on. I was like, I wouldn't have this week
Speaker 1: on this hike. Don't tell her it's sofall I like,
Speaker 1: definitely hiking. It's but It is definitely softball, because what
Speaker 1: if I'm diving, I'm diving this way and I'm landing
Speaker 1: exactly right here. They don't give you the credit you
Speaker 1: deserve right here.
Speaker 4: Man, I know I told you. Guys almost want to
Speaker 4: give you the No.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's easy. That's crazy. Okay. A couple more
Speaker 1: things I've had on the lest talk about for a
Speaker 1: couple of days. RAYMONDA wants to know Bones to take
Speaker 1: on all these podcast that are now launching. Sometimes I
Speaker 1: make a note, I don't know I wrote it down.
Speaker 1: Raymundo wants to know Bones's take on all these podcasts
Speaker 1: like my network podcast Talk to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I guess the long explanation or I give
Speaker 2: you a short exce long one. So the long one
Speaker 2: is Facebook started where it was just college kids. Then
Speaker 2: it grew to our parents and our grandparents. I'm curious
Speaker 2: how you see podcasts going, because now I see Hawk
Speaker 2: two as she's going to start a podcast. Morgan just
Speaker 2: launched a podcast. Are our parents and grandparents going to
Speaker 2: start podcasts? Or do you do you think this is
Speaker 2: where we're going with podcasts? Are we at the point
Speaker 2: where there's too many podcasts?
Speaker 1: The beauty of podcasts as anybody can do one. The
Speaker 1: difficult thing about podcast is everybody has one and both
Speaker 1: can exist. But it's like anything else, like the cream
Speaker 1: will rise. But we are in such a nuanced media world,
Speaker 1: a fractured fame world where even famous people aren't as
Speaker 1: famous as they used to be, and there are more
Speaker 1: famous people because you get famous for specific areas that
Speaker 1: you're qualified or known for. There could be somebody in
Speaker 1: wellness or a podcaster. Sometimes they may be like, did
Speaker 1: you hear Frank Willich He said, if you take three
Speaker 1: deep breaths in the sun shines right in your bot hole,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a great And it's like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: Frank Willis is.
Speaker 4: Oh Amy brings a lot of those quotes to.
Speaker 3: Us, But then he'll have like one point five to
Speaker 3: two million followers.
Speaker 1: Right, he's that guy, right, And that's not a real person.
Speaker 1: That guy's famous to a group of folks because of
Speaker 1: what he provides. Niche nuanced even at times could be
Speaker 1: slightly different than someone that something that already exists, but
Speaker 1: that is generally what fame is now. Podcasting is just
Speaker 1: a symptom of it, something with TikTok followers. But you're
Speaker 1: also seeing micro influencers do pretty well who don't have
Speaker 1: a million followers, but micro influenced things like a Pin.
Speaker 1: He's the best pen and they may have a thousand followers,
Speaker 1: but the pen people really want people to go to
Speaker 1: her to talk about pins because they know a thousand
Speaker 1: followers of pins, they're gonna do what she says. So
Speaker 1: I think, and I tell people this all the time.
Speaker 1: I have to go speak in San Diego next week
Speaker 1: about this. It's the more niche you can be with
Speaker 1: your podcast where you feel like, man, I don't know
Speaker 1: if anybody's gonna listen to this, it's so specific. The
Speaker 1: more niche you are, the more chance you have of
Speaker 1: actually having success.
Speaker 4: We're going to San Diego.
Speaker 1: We are not. Oh so, if you were like going
Speaker 1: to a podcast on The Simpsons in nineteen ninety six,
Speaker 1: that podcast would probably do better than somebody going on
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do an interview podcast unless you were able
Speaker 1: to land massive guests, and that is not sustainable unless
Speaker 1: you are massively famous.
Speaker 3: So consistency too, right.
Speaker 1: That is, if you have something good, that is how
Speaker 1: to make sure that it gets to people. But if
Speaker 1: you're consistently bad. No, I just mean, but you have
Speaker 1: to do it consistently in order to if you have
Speaker 1: something good, to have a chance to succeed, you have
Speaker 1: to be consistent. But first of all, you have to
Speaker 1: have something that some people are gonna want to find,
Speaker 1: like people on radio now, because even what is radio
Speaker 1: right and to me, it's just anything that comes out
Speaker 1: of your phone. But there'll be other like morning shows
Speaker 1: that are in certain individual cities, which we did forever
Speaker 1: and they were like, how do I like pop? And
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, keep using what you're doing now, Like
Speaker 1: you have to do well on your own show first
Speaker 1: and foremost, like you got to protect the baby, but do
Speaker 1: a podcast that is extremely niche and something that you
Speaker 1: love extremely niched, and then use your platform to promote that.
Speaker 1: But if you're just like I'm going to do a
Speaker 1: podcast on pop music, no one's gonna come to you
Speaker 1: for that because there are people that are famous or
Speaker 1: have better credentials than you in that. So the more
Speaker 1: niche you can get, the better, unless you're really famous,
Speaker 1: and that is your niche because people come to it
Speaker 1: for you, which is difficult to tell somebody who's not
Speaker 1: that famous. So Ray, the answer is, I love it
Speaker 1: because it gives everybody a shot. It's what's really cool
Speaker 1: about it podcasts is it's a true democracy. Everybody gets
Speaker 1: a shot. You think you got something, give it a run.
Speaker 1: Everybody has a podcast, and I think I was reading
Speaker 1: a stat that like ninety one percent of podcast that
Speaker 1: exists don't really exist anymore because most people do it
Speaker 1: for a few weeks quit because again it's they're not consistent.
Speaker 1: It's almost impossible to build something and it takes forever
Speaker 1: to get that little oh oh, we have something, takes
Speaker 1: forever months and so a lot of people don't have
Speaker 1: the patience to do that. So you're exact, Yeah, you're right,
Speaker 1: there's no consistency. They don't continue to do it. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I hope everybody does. I wish everybody in the world
Speaker 1: had a podcast. Everybody in the world, everybody in the
Speaker 1: world had a podcast. It would make mine more valuable
Speaker 1: because there'd be that many more that are trying. You
Speaker 1: can't do it, and I say mine, it could be
Speaker 1: anybody who has. It's a strong one. So yes, more
Speaker 1: podcasts the better. Nobody's forcing people to listen to them.
Speaker 1: And I think Ray what would you do one if
Speaker 1: you got to do one and you had to do
Speaker 1: it every week. Definitely supports betting betting, like even I
Speaker 1: know you guys do sore losers, but I'm saying if
Speaker 1: it was just you.
Speaker 2: It would be just betting.
Speaker 1: It would be the mistakes I used to have.
Speaker 2: I'd go in depth on gambling, how I overcame it,
Speaker 2: how I made it fun stuff like, but it would
Speaker 2: be really in depth on gambling.
Speaker 1: So and what I would say to Ray is if
Speaker 1: you do the real personal stuff, that's gonna work for you,
Speaker 1: because no one's gonna come to you to hear just
Speaker 1: sports betting because they're like real experts exactly. But if
Speaker 1: it's like heavy Ray fluenced, where it's like I suck.
Speaker 1: This are the mess ups I made, and he brings
Speaker 1: on other people that are in that theme and then
Speaker 1: also talks about you can also talk about sports betting,
Speaker 1: but your expertise has to be in what you're an
Speaker 1: expert in, which is losing.
Speaker 2: But I was also thinking you kind of in a way,
Speaker 2: do you do you look down at podcasters because you've
Speaker 2: been the king of radio for thirty years and now
Speaker 2: people are just talking on a mic in their bed,
Speaker 2: and do you think they can do what you do
Speaker 2: the opposite?
Speaker 1: They forever? I mean, but you have to think we
Speaker 1: have been podcasting this show since way before podcasting was normal,
Speaker 1: So we have an advantage in the podcasting world because
Speaker 1: it was so important to me. I was extremely lucky
Speaker 1: in that. Just like if you've read Outliers Malcolm Gladwell,
Speaker 1: Malcolm Gladwell, he would write like Bill Gates, he was
Speaker 1: born where there was a computer, he lived where there
Speaker 1: was a computer, or he wouldn't have been able to
Speaker 1: Bill Gates like in his talent. I was like one
Speaker 1: of the only computers for hundreds of miles. Had that
Speaker 1: one computer not been where he was, he would not
Speaker 1: have been able to be the Bill Gates that we know.
Speaker 1: So there are factors that happen in our lives that
Speaker 1: it's very fortunate, not to say it wouldn't have found
Speaker 1: one somewhere else where. I was fortunate was I was
Speaker 1: very young. So as I was nineteen twenty us twenty three,
Speaker 1: twenty four doing a big morning show, I was podcasting.
Speaker 1: I was already ahead of the gen pop digitally because
Speaker 1: I enjoyed that. But then I was like, we need
Speaker 1: to be doing this with our show. So we shtart
Speaker 1: ed podcasting immediately when nobody was podcasting, but we had
Speaker 1: built up that audience and built up that feed forever. No,
Speaker 1: And I think at times I've been scrutinized by any
Speaker 1: for caring a little too much about it for years
Speaker 1: and now it's finally coming around where it's like we'll
Speaker 1: leave you alone, you know. No. No, I think if
Speaker 1: you can pull off a great podcast like that's that's.
Speaker 1: It's hard to get a good job in radio, especially now,
Speaker 1: it's hard to get a podcast to catch on. Both
Speaker 1: are very hard, but.
Speaker 2: I think podcasts a huge because I commute now. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think it's ever going away.
Speaker 1: No, it's never. No, No, that's radio. That's the new
Speaker 1: normal radio to me, as anything comes from your phone. Period.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll meet with a client and they're just fixated
Speaker 1: on podcasting, which I'm like, great, love it. I got
Speaker 1: like nineteen of them, and I'll call this show a
Speaker 1: live podcast when we do it live, just to if
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, we really love being on the podcast space.
Speaker 1: Oh that's great. You should hear our live podcasts. We
Speaker 1: do it every morning, and then it goes up digitally.
Speaker 1: It's all the same. So, but it's live. I act
Speaker 1: like it not what we're recording a live one. I'm like,
Speaker 1: we're doing a live podcast that everyone can listen into
Speaker 1: live and call in. No podcasting is awesome.
Speaker 3: Well, so just a little note to encourage anybody listening
Speaker 3: that might be thinking, like, Oh, I have this topic,
Speaker 3: I'm passion about it. I'd like to start a podcast,
Speaker 3: and I don't know who will be listening. It may
Speaker 3: not even be that you're so focused on, you know,
Speaker 3: downloads or success or you're trying to be this like
Speaker 3: crazy huge podcaster. It might just mean that you have
Speaker 3: some experience you want to share and even if one
Speaker 3: person hears it. Because there was a mom that was
Speaker 3: an adoptive mom and she put up a podcast that
Speaker 3: she was recording at her house. I'm sure she's self
Speaker 3: published it, produced it, you know, wasn't it wasn't a
Speaker 3: huge podcast. I found it by just putting some keywords
Speaker 3: into the search bar of stuff that I was going
Speaker 3: through with our adoption, and she had on this other mom.
Speaker 3: I don't even remember the name of the podcast. I've
Speaker 3: got to go find it. And I keep saying that
Speaker 3: anytime I think of this story, and I need to
Speaker 3: do it because I would like to write her a
Speaker 3: thank you note because she had this other mom on
Speaker 3: and those two moms sitting down her house sharing their
Speaker 3: experience on their podcast where they who knows who's listening,
Speaker 3: Well I was. I found it, and it put me
Speaker 3: on a trajectory me and our family of some stuff
Speaker 3: we needed to work through and healing. And it was
Speaker 3: because they decided to sit down and record and you
Speaker 3: know their niche like, they talked about something that was
Speaker 3: passionate to them. They shared their personal experience. And it's
Speaker 3: not like they're professional podcasters, because I mean I could
Speaker 3: I could just tell they were just passionate about sharing
Speaker 3: their story. And I would say, I don't say this, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm not going I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say lightly
Speaker 3: like it changed the course of some stuff that was
Speaker 3: going on in our family, like big time, like changed
Speaker 3: our lives.
Speaker 1: My favorite part of that story, and I'm glad you
Speaker 1: shared it, was that here's a podcast that not a
Speaker 1: lot of people subscribe to, but it's great, and you
Speaker 1: still didn't know the name to share it so people
Speaker 1: could hear it and subscribe.
Speaker 3: I know, you know, because this is what what happened
Speaker 3: to you? Great that I don't even know if she
Speaker 3: may still be doing it because this was a few
Speaker 3: years ago, but it it was just such a crazy
Speaker 3: time that that's why I don't even My brain had
Speaker 3: so many other things going on that I'm like, shoot,
Speaker 3: how it was almost like divine that I found it, Like,
Speaker 3: I don't even know. I know that there's certain times
Speaker 3: I've tried to find.
Speaker 1: It, such for words Amy were just use in a search.
Speaker 3: Bar, Well, no, I would be very keywords that are
Speaker 3: personal to my family, so I'm not going to say them.
Speaker 3: But I just you know, yeah, I didn't. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe these women were George straight, Haiti, adoption, iced coffee, meditation.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool, make sure Ray, thank you for that question,
Speaker 1: So create your podcast. I have two other things I'm
Speaker 1: going to talk about Amy. One more thing that you
Speaker 1: sent a couple of days ago. I just want to
Speaker 1: make sure that you have it pulled up if I'm
Speaker 1: going to go to it. Something about five boundaries just
Speaker 1: set with your boss. So I want to get to
Speaker 1: that in a second. And then I do want to
Speaker 1: play do you have this voicemail? Ray? From Brett. Oh,
Speaker 1: I know I didn't do it on the show. Okay
Speaker 1: from Fort Worth, Texas because to do a death all right,
Speaker 1: go ahead, good morning studio. This question goes out to Lunchbox.
Speaker 1: All was worrying if I can get his input on
Speaker 1: the death of twenty seven year old Bottom Critinton.
Speaker 6: She was featured in the sixteen and Pregnant series, and.
Speaker 3: I was wondering if we could get his input on
Speaker 3: that story. Thank you for taking my golf.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she was I don't even know who she was,
Speaker 5: so she was like a weird Yeah, she wasn't like
Speaker 5: a big main person, Like I don't even I mean,
Speaker 5: I never I don't even recognize the name.
Speaker 4: When they announced her death.
Speaker 1: They headlined it different because I thought you had note
Speaker 1: that they.
Speaker 5: Said teen Mom star and I'm like, I don't remember
Speaker 5: her being on the show unless she was like on
Speaker 5: some random show. And then they tried to turn her
Speaker 5: into teen Mom because Teen Moms started leaving and they
Speaker 5: started bringing girls from different shows to be on Teen Mom.
Speaker 4: That's when it kind of jumped the shark.
Speaker 1: So you don't know much about her.
Speaker 4: Didn't know much about her, but may she rest in peace?
Speaker 1: Any give me give me your story.
Speaker 3: Okay. So I came across this post about five boundaries
Speaker 3: to set with your boss, and when I read them,
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I can.
Speaker 1: See trying to set through with me. No, let's see
Speaker 1: how many.
Speaker 3: Definitely not okay, I don't work weekends.
Speaker 1: I guess just anything universally stated is a bit. It's
Speaker 1: a great point, man, it is a great point. That's funny.
Speaker 1: Anything universally stated to me, if you're saying this is
Speaker 1: the only rigidity to me, is a turn off with people.
Speaker 1: I definitely have boundaries that people can have and respect them,
Speaker 1: but rigidity just for the sake of it, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna like any of these because of that. But okay,
Speaker 1: I get it. You don't work weekends. It's probably that's cool.
Speaker 1: We don't work.
Speaker 3: We don't work weekends. I don't travel for work.
Speaker 1: And I'm supposed to hire you when you say this
Speaker 1: because the work the job may not have travel. But
Speaker 1: if you come in and go, hey, I don't I'm
Speaker 1: not traveling. What the Okay? Well it wasn't on there,
Speaker 1: but now I don't like you.
Speaker 3: I don't want my identity used like on the website
Speaker 3: or social media.
Speaker 1: Okay, kind of job is it there?
Speaker 4: I mean, let's say you work in an office. Is
Speaker 4: that a big deal?
Speaker 1: I don't even think it really probably needs to be up.
Speaker 3: One of the examples in the post that I saw
Speaker 3: was like I don't know a boss, like they were
Speaker 3: an email when now and like this was an example
Speaker 3: and it was like, hey, everybody record like a selfie
Speaker 3: of you know, your favorite thing about working? Say it.
Speaker 1: Then wouldn't you just be like, oh, I'm not comfortable
Speaker 1: with putting my money.
Speaker 4: I'd prefer to be on Instagram.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I do not, especially if it's like the
Speaker 1: early part of the job. Go ahead.
Speaker 3: I do not answer my phone after hours.
Speaker 1: See the problem with this is every once in a
Speaker 1: while there needs to be a phone call that needs
Speaker 1: to be answered after hours. Not not much.
Speaker 3: Well, have you have you ever set a boundary with work?
Speaker 3: Any kind the boundaries that I'll know I'll not get naked.
Speaker 1: No, I've been naked at work. That dude painted me.
Speaker 1: It was weirdest thinking, like painting me on a canvas.
Speaker 1: I was button naked. He was stared at my starting
Speaker 1: wiener forever and then painting a leaf over it. Then
Speaker 1: I was like, why are you starting up my wiener
Speaker 1: if you're paying a leaf over it, like, don't look
Speaker 1: at my wiener, just paint the leaf. That's I remember
Speaker 1: thinking that because I lost the will and had to
Speaker 1: be staying naked, I remember that there's a terrible bad
Speaker 1: The only boundaries now that I will have our wife
Speaker 1: related where it is if we are on a trip
Speaker 1: or we're doing something, I will not make a call
Speaker 1: or do emails for the most part. But even then,
Speaker 1: even she knows this is a big part of my
Speaker 1: life in that they don't pay me and us a
Speaker 1: lot of money to have a whole bunch of boundaries
Speaker 1: if something goes wrong or they need us, you know,
Speaker 1: It's like part of the deal is if you have
Speaker 1: a job that has big responsibilities, sometimes you have to
Speaker 1: bend your boundaries. But yeah, if I'm with my wife
Speaker 1: I and we've I'll do it on the toilet. Luckily
Speaker 1: for me, I have IBS, so I can get a
Speaker 1: lot accomplished there. But I won't do it if we're
Speaker 1: there but a few but more than I've ever had before,
Speaker 1: just for her. Otherwise I go, I'll be dead by now,
Speaker 1: almost died a couple of times. I'm dead, right, now inside,
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, almost died three times. So there have
Speaker 1: been little boundaries that we have, boundaries, not the word
Speaker 1: guidelines that we try to abide by. But I'm different,
Speaker 1: different animal. But if somebody said that to me in
Speaker 1: a job interview, if I'm interview Abbey and she's like,
Speaker 1: oh man, and I'm like, man, your resume is awesome.
Speaker 1: I just interviewed like seven people for a job up
Speaker 1: here and Morgan did not Morgan here, Morgan won. We
Speaker 1: put it on. We put it. We put it on
Speaker 1: that iheart's side. Where else we put it Scuba the
Speaker 1: job where we put that on Zip we put on ZipRecruiter.
Speaker 1: So we had like hundreds of people applying. Morgan went
Speaker 1: through the hundreds and talked to all them. But when
Speaker 1: I got the seven that I met with, I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: your resume is already good. You wouldn't be here if
Speaker 1: you didn't have all the qualifications and your piece of
Speaker 1: paper didn't check out. So now I just want to
Speaker 1: like get to know and see if I like you.
Speaker 1: And if they were like a plus resume and it
Speaker 1: was like I don't travel, I don't.
Speaker 3: Oh that would work.
Speaker 1: I don't hire you you'd be like, okay, yeah, because
Speaker 1: you can have those, that's fine, Like, hey, I really
Speaker 1: can't travel a whole lot kids, for sure, got it.
Speaker 1: Any of the other boundaries that really irritate me.
Speaker 3: There's one final one I don't It's a I will
Speaker 3: not enforce your policies. If you don't have my back.
Speaker 1: I will not hire you.
Speaker 3: I was like, well, I don't know. That one seems weird,
Speaker 3: but it's like you expect, like, okay, have my back
Speaker 3: and then yeah, I'll do that. But yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: good luck with that.
Speaker 1: If yeah, good luck with that.
Speaker 3: Those are some boundaries you need to set. But I mean,
Speaker 3: I just think it's an interesting thing for a lot
Speaker 3: of people to think about for their own selves and
Speaker 3: their own mental health and their own, you know, families, Like, Yes,
Speaker 3: there might be some boundaries you need to set because
Speaker 3: I think with technology and the way the world is
Speaker 3: right now, it can be easy to do some form
Speaker 3: of work seven days away, and you might need to
Speaker 3: set a boundary with yourself of like hey, you know,
Speaker 3: if it can wait, then you're not going to look
Speaker 3: at your email or touch your computer or whatever on
Speaker 3: Sunday or Saturday. Like pick a day where you don't
Speaker 3: engage with work at all whatsoever. If you have that
Speaker 3: flexibility or that you can do that. I'm saying for
Speaker 3: your if you've got a family, like there's just something
Speaker 3: to think about.
Speaker 1: I think in your twenties you should work until you
Speaker 1: freaking pop. You should work until you pop in your twenties.
Speaker 1: Once you get to your thirties, you got to start
Speaker 1: to make some decisions because your life is about unless
Speaker 1: you like, knock somebody up. But your twenties is when
Speaker 1: you go hard as you possibly can. And then your
Speaker 1: thirties you have to start making some decisions. But the
Speaker 1: rigidity of I'm not gonna look at my phone. Maybe
Speaker 1: you have a job that allows that. This job would
Speaker 1: never allow that, but don't think everybody knows that getting
Speaker 1: into it. And also the balance thing is weird because
Speaker 1: if balance is work, it's hard to have balance like it,
Speaker 1: and they're sacrifice with balance or sacrifice with not having balance.
Speaker 1: There's always sacrifice if you want to have a great
Speaker 1: quality of the life you're searching for. If you want
Speaker 1: hardcore balance, great personal life, family, job, that is hard
Speaker 1: work to get that balance. But you're not gonna have
Speaker 1: a plus A plus on both sides. You're not gonna
Speaker 1: have a plus family and a plus job. That's not
Speaker 1: the balance. The balance is going to be like be minus,
Speaker 1: be minus, and that's gonna be what it is. But
Speaker 1: you can't get mad you don't have a plus job
Speaker 1: if you're wanting a ton of family time for balance,
Speaker 1: and the opposite, if you want the opposite, you can't
Speaker 1: get mad if you have a plus family and you're like, man,
Speaker 1: my job, I spend so much time my family. I
Speaker 1: love it. I wish my job was better, or I
Speaker 1: wish my family life is better, even though my job
Speaker 1: all the time. It is hard work to decide where
Speaker 1: your balance lies, and all of it is hard if
Speaker 1: you want to achieve balance, that's so that's the hard work,
Speaker 1: very hard work, just like having do working all the time.
Speaker 1: It's hard work. So there's this new you know, I
Speaker 1: want to make sure my mental health and that's awesome
Speaker 1: and I love it. But you're not going to be
Speaker 1: wildly successful in your career. You're not gonna have a
Speaker 1: lot of balance and also be wildly successful in your career.
Speaker 1: But that's not important to everybody, and to me, it's
Speaker 1: at times when it's like I want to have a
Speaker 1: lot of balance and be really really successful. The most
Speaker 1: successful people do not have much balance. So you can't
Speaker 1: have both. You can have a plus a plus on
Speaker 1: both sides.
Speaker 3: Shonda rhymes. So she has a commencement speech from this
Speaker 3: is from a long time ago, but I'm paraphrasing her
Speaker 3: talking about being a successful career woman and the mom
Speaker 3: and you know, how do you do it? Shonda? And
Speaker 3: she's like, well, if I'm succeeding in one area, She's like,
Speaker 3: I'm failing in another. If I am at you know,
Speaker 3: my daughter's dance recital, i am missing. Sandra O's final
Speaker 3: scene of Gray's Anatomy always sad. If I'm you know,
Speaker 3: doing this great career thing over here, I'm not at
Speaker 3: home trick or treating with my kids, you know, or
Speaker 3: the opposite or yeah, vice, but you have to look
Speaker 3: at it's like it's yeah, there's not this like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm winning in all areas at this exact moment. It's like, yeah, well,
Speaker 3: when I'm at work right here for this situation, this
Speaker 3: final scene, this shot, I'm gonna kill it here. But
Speaker 3: my kids are like, wait, where's mom. But then she's
Speaker 3: gonna make sure that she shows up to the kid
Speaker 3: things that she needs to do, but then work will
Speaker 3: be like dang, wish Seanna was here.
Speaker 1: Kind of like Madden points you only have so many Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you can use seven and three, five and five,
Speaker 1: eight and two, but if you use an eight on
Speaker 1: one side, can't get pissed. It's the two sides's not
Speaker 1: doing it very well. And so to me, it's at
Speaker 1: times with people, especially when I'm hiring or they're a
Speaker 1: worker or staff members, that are like, I just need
Speaker 1: way more time for myself, Okay, And that's awesome, and
Speaker 1: I love that for you. You need to prioritize your mental
Speaker 1: health and do what you long term is right for you.
Speaker 1: But I need somebody that can do this other thing,
Speaker 1: and sometimes it can't be the same person. FI ground repeat,
Speaker 1: I say.
Speaker 3: And then take a fight ground repeat. But like Carvell,
Speaker 3: a little time on Saturday or Sunday or Tuesday, run
Speaker 3: yourself in the are my friend, that's a.
Speaker 1: Real healthier to run yourself on the ground.
Speaker 3: She because my friend, she and being a realtor, she
Speaker 3: has to work weekends, you know, so she tries to
Speaker 3: carve out time. She's trying to hold herself accountable. For
Speaker 3: what she calls her own little wellness Wednesday, where she'll
Speaker 3: try to carve out some hours on Wednesday where she's
Speaker 3: not that's doing emails and contracts and looking at houses
Speaker 3: and doing whatever. Because as a realtor, you know you
Speaker 3: can be getting calls from your clients at all times.
Speaker 3: So for her it's important on that Wednesday that she
Speaker 3: has those hours blocked off.
Speaker 1: And I kid when I say run yourself into the ground.
Speaker 1: I have ran myself on the ground a few times
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't have the success without it. But I
Speaker 1: have deficiency in other parts of my life because of that,
Speaker 1: because of how I chose. Like my wife and I
Speaker 1: we set aside a night every week for like four
Speaker 1: hours where it's just us, right, we do something doesn't
Speaker 1: anything big. But it's also a bit fluid to where
Speaker 1: if something big comes up, like she sometimes understands and
Speaker 1: like I get a call, Hey, come work out with
Speaker 1: some team, She's like, oh, that's a big one our anniversary.
Speaker 1: I was with Steve Young and I was like, oh boy,
Speaker 1: and she was like, no, that's big, Like we'll do it.
Speaker 1: So there's some fluidity. It's pretty rigid, but there's fluidity
Speaker 1: if it matters, and that's all. I'm done talking anyway.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna set up boundary right now. We're done.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 4: Set a boundary I'm done.
Speaker 1: It makes me keep going. I'll show you all right
Speaker 1: special Saturday show. Thank you very much. We will see
Speaker 1: you guys on Monday. By everybody,