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Speaker 1: How you doing, man, You're doing great. Good to have
Speaker 1: you back. Thank you. I'd like to thank Ben Wilson
Speaker 1: and Scott Seidenberg for holding it down. That's what the
Speaker 1: kids say, holding it down.
Speaker 3: Great to do a few days with Ben again. It's
Speaker 3: been a while since me and him have done stuff together.
Speaker 3: He didn't want to come over to Vegas, I guess,
Speaker 3: but stayed in cushy San Diego. But he did a
Speaker 3: great job. And then Scott always fun so I guess.
Speaker 1: It was the first shows me and Scott have done together.
Speaker 1: But Scott did a great job. Philed him the great
Speaker 1: Ben Wilson. He ain't got to come here a big time.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he had golf in the beach to get
Speaker 3: to after the show's gill right.
Speaker 1: He's got stuff to talk. This is guessing lines for
Speaker 1: a week number i'n't even lost count Week number sixteen
Speaker 1: is what we're going to be doing here in the
Speaker 1: National Football League as we do that. If you're new
Speaker 1: to the show, we look back at week number fifteen.
Speaker 1: The whole point of the exercise is to try to
Speaker 1: extract some value in the upcoming week's lines. Here's the thing.
Speaker 1: It's been slim pickens the last few weeks doing this.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure it'll be anything more than slim pickts today,
Speaker 1: but we will see what we can get.
Speaker 3: It's funny you say that you were you were gone
Speaker 3: last week obviously. I feel like I had more bets
Speaker 3: last week than I had the four previous weeks combined.
Speaker 1: Didn't work out? Okay, yeah it did, oh good? But
Speaker 1: what were you on? I feel like I'm back to
Speaker 1: slim pickens this week? What were you on last week?
Speaker 3: Let's see aj Brown over Receiving Yards, Let's see Broncos
Speaker 3: got home, Bucks got home, Lions was a loser, Bills
Speaker 3: Lions over a winner, and Packers Money Line a winner.
Speaker 1: Nice, well done. We'll get to all of it, and
Speaker 1: we always start though on Mondays with a little Circus
Speaker 1: Survivor update. The fourteen point two sixty six million dollar
Speaker 1: Circus Survivor down to five fifty pardon me, we're down
Speaker 1: ball Oh you missed it. It was a big upset,
Speaker 1: you said. Now we're down to fifty entries fifty in
Speaker 1: a contest. By the way, there's fifteen of those entries
Speaker 1: are on the vikings tonight, so we're not through week
Speaker 1: fifteen quite yet with this. But right as of this moment,
Speaker 1: there are fifty entries left. Intrinsic value of each of
Speaker 1: these fifty two hundred and eighty five three hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty dollars five of those almost got refereed out by
Speaker 1: the UH in the Washington Commander's game. It's so into
Speaker 1: imagine if those five people had lost on that, which
Speaker 1: we'll get to.
Speaker 3: I don't even know what I'd do, people like set
Speaker 3: their couches on fire and stuff like. I don't know,
Speaker 3: I'd just be setting my whole house on fire. Might
Speaker 3: have been one of the worst ways to lose ever,
Speaker 3: But they get by. So fifteen on the Vikings tonight.
Speaker 3: Here's the thing, there are four mores.
Speaker 1: If those fifteen get through, we'll still have fifty obviously
Speaker 1: thirty five if not. If the Bears pull off the
Speaker 1: upset tonight. Either way, there are four quote unquote weeks
Speaker 1: left in this contest, one of which is the Christmas Quirk.
Speaker 1: Two on Christmas Day, one on Thursday Night Football. So
Speaker 1: six teams available, none of which are comfortable picks, though
Speaker 1: with a couple injuries yesterday, namely to Patrick Mahomes the
Speaker 1: Chiefs and to Genosmith and the Seahawks, it does add
Speaker 1: a little drama. It's Chiefs that Steelers Ravens at Texans
Speaker 1: on a Christmas Day, and then it's Seahawks and the
Speaker 1: Bears Thursday Night Football. That week, but we still got
Speaker 1: to get through week sixteen before we get to that.
Speaker 1: But that's you know how they say Saturday is moving
Speaker 1: day at the Masters, that will be moving day if
Speaker 1: you will in Circus Survivor. So that's where that stands.
Speaker 1: You ready to get some lines, Let's do it. Let's
Speaker 1: do it. For week sixteen in National Football three or
Speaker 1: four weeks left Hill hard to believe. It is hard
Speaker 1: to believe Will Hill was here. He's like, I can't
Speaker 1: believe it's week five already. He always does, I can't
Speaker 1: believe it's week six already. Well we're here.
Speaker 3: I'm that guy too. I say that at least eight
Speaker 3: times during the season.
Speaker 1: By the way, I will say this last thing about Survivor.
Speaker 1: As epically historical as those first five weeks were in
Speaker 1: terms of carnage, there's no way to because we don't track.
Speaker 1: We can track that mathematically. No one ever tracks the
Speaker 1: screeching halt of Survivor. But this has been a historic
Speaker 1: screech Yeah, you know, because it within five weeks we
Speaker 1: had lost ninety eight point four five five percent of entries.
Speaker 1: There's fit within five the first five weeks of these
Speaker 1: of this NFL season, ninety eight point four, or five
Speaker 1: percent of the entries were gone. We forget how amazing
Speaker 1: it was. It was insane. Okay. The opposite is case
Speaker 1: after week eleven after week, excuse me, after week ten,
Speaker 1: one hundred and five entries were left. There are fifty left.
Speaker 1: And keep in mind we had a Thanksgiving yeah, and
Speaker 1: we got through Thanksgiving. Yeah. So here we are, all right,
Speaker 1: let's get some lives. Let's go to thirty. Thursday night
Speaker 1: Broncos at Chargers was a Chargers Broncos beat the Colts.
Speaker 1: We get to the point of the season. We don't
Speaker 1: linger on some of these games too long, but it
Speaker 1: was one of these where the Colts. There was a
Speaker 1: key point in this game, in case you missed it,
Speaker 1: and this is becoming an epidemic of the NFL. Colts
Speaker 1: started out with a nice ten play seventy yard drive
Speaker 1: ar dime to Josh Downs on third and ten for
Speaker 1: twenty two to start at the drive. Seven plays later,
Speaker 1: he ran it in from twenty three to seven to nothing.
Speaker 1: Broncos came right back, but Nicks was picked bo Nicks
Speaker 1: picked by Zayir Franklin. That led to a Matt Gay
Speaker 1: thirty seven yard field will tend to nothing Colts. A
Speaker 1: couple drives later for the Broncos, they went fifty four
Speaker 1: yards Nicks to Adam Trautman from thirteen out ten to
Speaker 1: seven Indianapolis. It would be thirteen to seven Indianapolis at
Speaker 1: the half. And here's where it gets a little nutty
Speaker 1: Denver third play of the third quarter, opening drive, Knicks
Speaker 1: picked again by Samuel Womack. The third let me just
Speaker 1: say this little Offensive Rookie of the Year break on this.
Speaker 1: It's over. It's all over. Bo Nicks three picks yesterday,
Speaker 1: Jade and Daniels just sort of doing his thing. It
Speaker 1: would take an epic set of circumstances now for Jayde
Speaker 1: Daniels not to win the Offensive Rookie the Year. Agree
Speaker 1: or disagree? Agree?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, But I'm that guy who's totally gotten
Speaker 3: to the point where Brock bo I feel like Brock
Speaker 3: Bauers should probably win this award.
Speaker 1: Oh stop it, already, stop it. He's having eight epic
Speaker 1: he is, he is. But what You're not gonna give
Speaker 1: it to Jayden? Dad? You have to, all right, So
Speaker 1: Nick's second pick, it's thirteen to seven Colts. Colts have
Speaker 1: the ball up six second play first intend the Denver
Speaker 1: forty one Jonathan Taylor untouched into the end zone touchdown,
Speaker 1: except for a little little detail. Right before he crosses
Speaker 1: the goal line, he does this little thing where he
Speaker 1: flips the ball. What are we doing review? It's a
Speaker 1: fumble through the end zone touchback. So instead of twenty
Speaker 1: to seven or twenty one to seven, have they chosen
Speaker 1: perhaps to have gotten the to have tried the two
Speaker 1: point conversion and converted it either way, that would have
Speaker 1: been a two score game. Instead it remains thirteen to seven.
Speaker 3: Gil a defensive player, I'll give an excuse to Okay,
Speaker 3: maybe fine, you're not used to carrying the ball, Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 1: I just think that we've gotten to the point now
Speaker 1: where this has happened more than a negligible amount, let's
Speaker 1: put it that way. And I don't think the outrage
Speaker 1: as a hows quote unquote outrages announcers are in the moment.
Speaker 1: They need to be that tenfold. I agree, like someone
Speaker 1: needs to go crazy about this, and the coaches need
Speaker 1: to bench people. This is it's just so, it's so lazy.
Speaker 1: Denver third and tent at the Indianapols thirty nine. Don't
Speaker 1: worry though, bo Nix throws another pick, this time to
Speaker 1: Nick Cross Indianapolis first play in suing drive, they give
Speaker 1: it right back ar to Pittman. He's tackled by PJ Lockey,
Speaker 1: fumbles recovered by DJ Jones. Denver doesn't do anything with it,
Speaker 1: but they do get the field goal to cut it
Speaker 1: to thirteen to ten. Then after a Mims sixty yard
Speaker 1: punt return. How many great plays is Marvin Mims Junior
Speaker 1: make on on special teams? They're set up at the
Speaker 1: Indianapolis fifteen second play, Nicks to Nate Adkins for fifteen
Speaker 1: seventeen thirteen. Denver takes the lead early fourth quarter, and
Speaker 1: then second and seventh at the Denver forty Outonnam Mitchell
Speaker 1: adonai Ahad looking to throw it back across the field,
Speaker 1: picked in full stride by Nick Benito. It's actually ruled
Speaker 1: the latter in a fumble in the in the in
Speaker 1: the box score, as it should because it's a backwards
Speaker 1: But you ever see somebody make that play where they're
Speaker 1: in full stride on defense. That was unbelievable. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: as Scott Hanson accurately said, on a red zone, he
Speaker 1: goes Nick Benito then grabbed his Benito's on the way
Speaker 1: in and got flagged for that. But nonetheless it's a
Speaker 1: two lead, two score lead for Denver twenty four to thirteen.
Speaker 1: They would go on to win it because ar would
Speaker 1: throw another pick to us or ten severely underthrown. They
Speaker 1: go on a win at thirty one to thirteen. Denver
Speaker 1: wins with only one hundred and ninety three total yards
Speaker 1: of offense. Why because the opponent, once they get to
Speaker 1: the end zone flips the ball and decides not to score.
Speaker 1: God bless, who's Indianapolis? Who's Denver playing? Again? Charge Chargers?
Speaker 1: And the Chargers get just destroyed by the Buccaneers. Did
Speaker 1: you have this game going this way?
Speaker 3: I had the Bucks, you know, catching points and on
Speaker 3: the money line.
Speaker 1: Ten to ten game Tampa Bay. Baker gets picked by
Speaker 1: Tarheeb Still from University of Maryland. Set up the Chargers
Speaker 1: are the Tampa Bay twenty seven replays Herbert to Quentin Johnston.
Speaker 1: It's seventeen to ten Chargers midway through the second quarter.
Speaker 1: Then Tampa Bay third and one at their own forty
Speaker 1: four shot White hit by Joey Bosa. He fumbles, Elijah
Speaker 1: Moulten recovers to the Chargers. So the Chargers are set
Speaker 1: up up seven points. This is late second quarter. They decide, well,
Speaker 1: we're not going to roll out Cameron Dicker for a
Speaker 1: sixty yardfield. Well, that'd be crazy. We punt it. So
Speaker 1: that was the end. That was the That was the
Speaker 1: the high point of the Chargers in this game. Up seven,
Speaker 1: with the ball in Tampa Bay territory, they couldn't do
Speaker 1: anything with it. So starting from there, here are the
Speaker 1: rest of the Chargers drives in this game. Three and out,
Speaker 1: three and out, punt, the rare Justin Herbert pick, turnover
Speaker 1: on downs, four and out, another turnover on downs heineke in,
Speaker 1: and a fumble by Stone Smart. That's the rest of
Speaker 1: the game for the Chargers. Meanwhile, Tampa Bay is just
Speaker 1: scoring points the whole time. Mike Evans with two huge
Speaker 1: plays a one to a fifty seven yard touchdown pass
Speaker 1: to put the Bucks up twenty to seventeen, and then
Speaker 1: later Mayfield to Evans from thirty five out to put
Speaker 1: them up thirty to seventeen. They'd win it forty to seventeen.
Speaker 1: The Chargers out gained by the Bucks five oh five
Speaker 1: to two oh seven. Yeah, the Buccaneers are just flying
Speaker 1: to the win in the NFC South, as we said
Speaker 1: they would a few weeks ago given their schedule. Yep,
Speaker 1: I've got the Falcons ticket. It's been tough to watch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it happened.
Speaker 3: And also the I mean, it's impossible not to root
Speaker 3: for Baker Mayfield and this like but this Bucks is
Speaker 3: one of my favorite teams.
Speaker 1: But Baker twenty two of twenty two for twenty seven
Speaker 1: for two to eighty eight, four touchdowns at a pick.
Speaker 1: Denver's at the Chargers because I know that the market
Speaker 1: tends to like the Chargers a bit. I'll say chargers
Speaker 1: by more than the three. I'll say chargers by three
Speaker 1: and a hook. We are three at draft Kings. Let
Speaker 1: me check around.
Speaker 3: I think it's pretty much three flat. Yeah, three everywhere.
Speaker 1: I think that's a better line. I think that's what
Speaker 1: I would make it if I hadn't assumed that they
Speaker 1: would go crazy for the Chargers again. But maybe maybe
Speaker 1: that love is dissipated.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with the three, But I tend to
Speaker 3: think how what you just said is true too, that
Speaker 3: they give it.
Speaker 1: They give the Charger a little too much. Denver, looking
Speaker 1: like a playoff team, had no business winning that yesterday
Speaker 1: manage to anyway? Good for them, Good for them getting
Speaker 1: the mowirrel lines. See if we can find some value
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Speaker 1: Saturday three college football? So there's the first of the
Speaker 1: college football playoff games is Friday night, then three on
Speaker 1: Saturday along with two NFL games.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm flying out of here red Eye
Speaker 3: Friday night and you're going going home Christmas.
Speaker 1: Going home, going to see my mom. It's been two years. Hey,
Speaker 1: do we have that Kelly Bidlin, the shot of you
Speaker 1: on the FSU sidelines. Yeah, we do that right now,
Speaker 1: going a great red light ladies and gentlemen. This is
Speaker 1: from on Tundra at Andrew eight two zero eight two
Speaker 1: seven one on Tondre. Is this your producer Kelly Bidlin
Speaker 1: on the Florida State sideline? That dude kind of does
Speaker 1: look like you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say he doesn't. Uh,
Speaker 3: the hair a little more red than mine. Okay, red,
Speaker 3: this is old though this is old as hell. This
Speaker 3: guy is uh my research shows from before the show.
Speaker 3: He is now the equipment manager for the softball team
Speaker 3: and soccer teams there at Florida State. He was there
Speaker 3: during the Jamus years. Though they called it, they were
Speaker 3: sort of called him red Lightning because there was a
Speaker 3: couple famous highlights through those years of him, Like you
Speaker 3: know when you see the every once in a while,
Speaker 3: like the ball guy running running stride for stride with
Speaker 3: like the running back who's going into the zone. He
Speaker 3: was that guy like chugging along going crazy. Yeah, Red
Speaker 3: Lightning man.
Speaker 1: Legend. By the way he and quotes is what Kelly's saying.
Speaker 1: He was the guy running very much faith.
Speaker 3: You don't even know, man, there's this one kid. It
Speaker 3: was a good freshman year at Florida State. No idea
Speaker 3: how this happens.
Speaker 1: Freshman year at Florida State University.
Speaker 3: There is I don't even know how many thousands of
Speaker 3: kids right there signing up. I lived in a dorm,
Speaker 3: A kid two floors above me, a dead ringer for me,
Speaker 3: dead ringer, and like people would mix us up all
Speaker 3: the time. People come up to be like, hey, Andrew,
Speaker 3: how you doing, man, I'm like, yeah, I'm not Andrew,
Speaker 3: Like I don't even know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: That guy scowl the way he's looking just like you.
Speaker 1: We get tweets and beating the book. Simon Wheeland can't
Speaker 1: wait for my running back and my coach to feature
Speaker 1: on Dumbo of the Week on the megapod. Will yea.
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor is absolutely is Dumbo of the Week candidate
Speaker 1: number one for what we were talking about before, that's
Speaker 1: for sure. Uh Charles and Connecticut. Talking about the tailor flip's,
Speaker 1: he says that's at least three times this year that's
Speaker 1: happened in the NFL. I don't understand it. I wish
Speaker 1: someone could tell me why it's important to the players
Speaker 1: to drop the ball as soon as they break the plane.
Speaker 1: What's wrong with waiting until you're three yards into the
Speaker 1: end zone? Bro, I call you bruh. Charleson Connecticut totally agree.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just it's as simple as they're so excited, right,
Speaker 3: Like they're just too excited.
Speaker 1: Stop with the so excited saying it is an excuse.
Speaker 3: Obviously you should score first before you probably celebrate.
Speaker 1: It all my first one thousand year old moments since
Speaker 1: I've gotten back. You know what John Riggins used to do.
Speaker 1: He used to run into the end zone. He never
Speaker 1: used to spike. You should just flip it back to
Speaker 1: the rest. I always thought that was the coolest thing,
Speaker 1: Just hand into the rest. I've been here before the
Speaker 1: act like you've been there before, right, Jeff Holdorf at
Speaker 1: holding court, Holding court, He says, welcome back, Gale, ready
Speaker 1: to learn our next Yiddish word? Think we have all
Speaker 1: a googled machugar After the four thousand time of hearing that, Bro,
Speaker 1: love having you back. Thank you. Jeff C. Spackler welcome
Speaker 1: back to my morning show. Let's try to make it
Speaker 1: into work more often. It messes with my mornings. I
Speaker 1: wander gillless through the betting week. I'm sorry about that,
Speaker 1: Seaspack Brian Shaffer. Gill is the music for Guessing Lines
Speaker 1: the same as the music for crack Man. Sincerely, Steve Feszick.
Speaker 1: I don't think it is, no, No, crack Man has
Speaker 1: the best intro music. Yeah, yeah, it's much more rocky ish.
Speaker 1: The college football guessing lines music, which, by the way,
Speaker 1: where did that go this year? Is the same as
Speaker 1: the regular guessing lines music. What happened to college foot.
Speaker 3: Well, we screwed up the one great week to do it,
Speaker 3: the conference championship week when I but when pre show
Speaker 3: I was discussing with Elliott Bowman.
Speaker 1: We screwed it up, by the way, Yeah yeah, yeah, yes, yeah, sorry, Gil,
Speaker 1: I screwed it up.
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, look, it does get later in the season,
Speaker 3: as you often talk about, even when we do the
Speaker 3: NFL ones where you're like, okay, we've seen what this
Speaker 3: spread was two weeks before. Yeah, not that I'm great
Speaker 3: at it, but it makes it a little easier for
Speaker 3: me sometimes, and then it becomes a little boring.
Speaker 1: It's only fun if I'm wildly off right true, But.
Speaker 3: Average Championships was a letdown because I didn't even know
Speaker 3: who was playing in some of them.
Speaker 1: All season already started, you know, I did. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: go to Sunday. Are we on Sunday? No? Saturday?
Speaker 4: Saturday?
Speaker 1: Saturday?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 3: So Saturday, this is one o'clock Eastern Texans at Chiefs.
Speaker 1: Well, that's a good game. Potentially. I suppose Patrick Mahomes play,
Speaker 1: so we have to have two different lines here. I
Speaker 1: would imagine I don't know what the market is is
Speaker 1: factory in at this point, but on I guess I
Speaker 1: would three to Threeither Houston beats Miami yesterday, three to
Speaker 1: three game, Miami third and fourth their own forty seven
Speaker 1: to a sacked by Will Anderson Junior. Tim Centle recovers
Speaker 1: set up at the Miami twenty twenty eight, Houston leads
Speaker 1: to Stroud across the body, touchdown past Nico Collins, ten
Speaker 1: to three Houston, It'd be ten to six, and then
Speaker 1: Houston first and tend their own forty nine. Stroud fumbles,
Speaker 1: Jordan Brooks recovers. Miami then at the Houston thirty eight.
Speaker 1: They returned the favor second and sixth at the Houston
Speaker 1: thirty nine to a pick by Kaylin Bullock didn't see him.
Speaker 1: He returns at sixty eight yards to the Miami five
Speaker 1: with thirteen seconds left in the first half. They do
Speaker 1: have to settle for the field goal, though no game
Speaker 1: by an incomplete pass, so Fairburn twenty three yard chip
Speaker 1: shot thirteen to six Uston at the half. Houston then
Speaker 1: in punt formation fourth and two at the Miami forty
Speaker 1: four first drive of the second half, they faked darhe
Speaker 1: Ogunbawale for thirty five yards. Two plays later, strived to
Speaker 1: Collins from six out twenty to six, and Miami was
Speaker 1: in ketchup mo of the rest of the way. Sanders
Speaker 1: thirty four thirty yard field goal was good, but they
Speaker 1: wiped that off the board and Miami converted into a
Speaker 1: touchdown to John new Smith, great pass by two of
Speaker 1: twenty to twelve. They missed the extra point, so a
Speaker 1: good decision to wipe that field goal off the board,
Speaker 1: and then Miami had so many opportunities to get back
Speaker 1: in this They had a fourth and fourth of Houston
Speaker 1: thirty four with twelve forty four to go two at
Speaker 1: a John who for nine, but then three plays later
Speaker 1: to a picked again by Derek Stingley Junior, with ten
Speaker 1: thirty four to go. Then they had a three and out,
Speaker 1: and then they took over at their own twenty three
Speaker 1: with one forty four to go, still down one possession,
Speaker 1: eight points. First play to a pick by Stingley again,
Speaker 1: ballgame twenty to twelve. Stingley's so good, so good to
Speaker 1: a just for a guy who doesn't who is you know,
Speaker 1: accurate with his passes? Not his best performance, yes, not
Speaker 1: not at all.
Speaker 3: And I one of the things I feel like I've
Speaker 3: noticed with the Dolphins the past few weeks is like
Speaker 3: there is just these these receivers that we talk about
Speaker 3: being so lightning in Waddle and Tyrie Hill seem to
Speaker 3: be like not getting any separation whatsoever.
Speaker 1: I don't really know what that story is. Kansas City
Speaker 1: beats Cleveland. This was not a this was not a
Speaker 1: great day in terms of just a fan perspective of
Speaker 1: the NFL. Well, none of these games are kind of
Speaker 1: Dullsville Chiefs. They beat the Browns twenty one to seven.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the verb I would use is
Speaker 1: just sort of outlast them. I mean, they could have
Speaker 1: played all day and they probably would have won by
Speaker 1: a touchdown or two. It wasn't for for you know,
Speaker 1: Cleveland not having opportunities. Cleveland with six turnovers in this game,
Speaker 1: turnover differential of minus six. That'll do it, and you
Speaker 1: only lost by fourteen. First drive of the game, Kansas City,
Speaker 1: they had a three and out, but on the ariz
Speaker 1: upon James Brochet fumbled at samaj p Rhin recovered. Three
Speaker 1: plays later, mahomes the juju from seven out seven and nothing. Cleveland.
Speaker 1: A couple drives later they had a first and dead
Speaker 1: the Kansas City thirty six. Here was their first turnover.
Speaker 1: James picked in the end zone by Brian Cook. By
Speaker 1: the way, if you watch that play, Elijah Moore of
Speaker 1: the Browns just as kind of laying down watching the
Speaker 1: pick happen, Like the pick happened in the end zone.
Speaker 1: He's just kind of like, yeah, well that happened. The
Speaker 1: same dude, remember in the Denver in the Denver primetime game,
Speaker 1: the Denver Cleveland primetime game, where he left the receipt
Speaker 1: where he let the interception just happen. The pick six happened.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I really caught that. Yes, so
Speaker 1: he remembered. He was lolly gagging out of bounds in
Speaker 1: that one. This one, he was just chilling in the
Speaker 1: end zone on his back. He's like, I guess he's
Speaker 1: not returning it. Kansas City fourteen play, eighty seven yard
Speaker 1: drive Mahomes to Grave from six out. That would make
Speaker 1: it fourteen to nothing Cleveland after Jerome Ford forty five
Speaker 1: yard kickoff return set up at the Kansas City forty
Speaker 1: nine four and out wincid in complete on fourth and one,
Speaker 1: and then Butcker would miss a twenty nine yard field
Speaker 1: goal before the half. I note that because Butcker does
Speaker 1: not look good with that leg, like that plant leg
Speaker 1: buckles first first week back. He made the extra points,
Speaker 1: but this is a chip shot and his if you
Speaker 1: look at his left leg, it's like painful to watch.
Speaker 1: So fourteen to nothing at the half. Uh, And then
Speaker 1: it was just the turnover fest Cleveland. First play Jamis
Speaker 1: to Chubb. Did you see this pick deflex off Nick
Speaker 1: Bolton into Chubb's chest, Chubb can't corral and then somehow
Speaker 1: Bolton strips it on the way down for the pick.
Speaker 1: That might have been the play of the day. Awesome. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was amazing. That led to uh, you know, set
Speaker 1: up at the Cleveland thirty four to four plays in
Speaker 1: Mahomes to Worthy from twenty one out twenty one to nothing,
Speaker 1: Chubb with a fumble. Later I'll go through the rest
Speaker 1: of Cleveland possessions. Fumble punt two play drive which was
Speaker 1: great play Jerome Ford sixty two yards just with the
Speaker 1: after burners, just turning the corner on everybody. That made
Speaker 1: it twenty one to seven. But then Cleveland punt jamis pick,
Speaker 1: let's see DTR and that didn't go anywhere, and then
Speaker 1: DTR ultimately picked. So it's just again plus six in
Speaker 1: turnovers for the Chiefs. They win at twenty one to seven.
Speaker 1: Is that's their widest margin of victory of the year.
Speaker 1: And they are twelve and one, twelve and one or
Speaker 1: thirteen in one, pardon me, thirteen and one thirteen in one.
Speaker 1: And that's their biggest win in terms of margin of
Speaker 1: the year. Now here's the thing, Patrick Mahomes. A big
Speaker 1: story of this game, though, of course, is that late
Speaker 1: in this game, when it was you know, twenty one
Speaker 1: to seven. This is in the fourth quarter, Kansas City
Speaker 1: fourth and three at the Cleveland thirty nine. They decided
Speaker 1: to go for it. Mahomes incomplete intended for juju. Mahomes
Speaker 1: gets up, slowly limps to the sideline his right ankle
Speaker 1: the word is not broken, but just really sore. He
Speaker 1: was unclear whether he'd be available to play this coming
Speaker 1: Saturday against the Texans. Quote it's hard to say right now,
Speaker 1: unquote from Patrick Mahomes. So if he plays, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say they're a four point favorite. If he doesn't and
Speaker 1: it's Carson Wentz, I'd say they're a three point dog.
Speaker 3: So right now it is DraftKings lining this at Texans
Speaker 3: two and a half.
Speaker 1: So that they are factoring him not playing that yeah,
Speaker 1: which I mean I would think he doesn't go. They
Speaker 1: have not clinched the number one seed.
Speaker 3: I know, But like Saturday, it's a short week.
Speaker 1: Well they you know what comes after that, and even
Speaker 1: shorter week yep, and even shorter week to play Wednesday
Speaker 1: against the Steeler coming back.
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Speaker 1: I was appreciated. Who by hoops? We know red Lightning
Speaker 1: and Kelly aren't the same person. Red Lightning didn't tear
Speaker 1: his hand, didn't tear his hammy catching the field goal.
Speaker 1: Very true, Hoops by hoots can't be the same. Great point,
Speaker 1: I do not have near the athleticism of Red Lightning.
Speaker 1: Jason H. Eleven, Welcome back, Gilly. Kelly did a great
Speaker 1: job in your absence, as did Todd Wishnev with the megapot.
Speaker 1: But it's nice to have an adult back in the room.
Speaker 1: Just kidding Kelly, not kidding Yinzer, that's Todd Norman Vegas.
Speaker 1: Do you realize that the four NFL teams playing this Saturday,
Speaker 1: then flip opponents for the two Christmas Day games. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I was just referred to with the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: Anyone asks Santa for a Netflix subscription so they're not
Speaker 1: stuck watching yawn regular season NBA on December twenty fifth,
Speaker 1: Norman Vegas taking a shot at your league. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is another issue for me. Gil.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go home for Christmas as soon as i land.
Speaker 3: I've got college football playoff in NFL to watch, and
Speaker 3: then one Christmas Day we got two NFL games.
Speaker 1: And NBA all day.
Speaker 3: Mom's not gonna be abby.
Speaker 2: She ain't.
Speaker 1: By the way, do you have NBA Cup fever? You
Speaker 1: like this event? I love it? You love it? I
Speaker 1: love it, you love it.
Speaker 3: I think any extra reason to get excited about basketball
Speaker 3: this time of year. If look the people that are
Speaker 3: not going to get a bit excited about it, regardless,
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. But if there's people that are slightly interested,
Speaker 3: they get a little more interested.
Speaker 1: How is it her? I got off flight from DC
Speaker 1: to come back here and there was like as the
Speaker 1: you know you're seating, as you're getting seated, there was
Speaker 1: someone an Atlanta Hawks fan coming down the aisle and
Speaker 1: someone she was wearing a whole Hawk's gear because they
Speaker 1: were obviously in the semi finals, and someone from another
Speaker 1: seat goes, are you going to the game, as she goes, yes,
Speaker 1: I am so. We yes, I am like I guess
Speaker 1: she was about to win the NBA Championship.
Speaker 3: I'm like, so we saw each other Saturday night. I
Speaker 3: was at that game earlier on Saturday. And when I
Speaker 3: first got first with a lot of the problems that
Speaker 3: we discussed from last year did no change.
Speaker 1: I was cold, it was dark.
Speaker 3: Remember how dark it was in the stands for when
Speaker 3: we were sitting in there, And it looks that way
Speaker 3: on TV if you watch it at home, it is
Speaker 3: you're just sitting in dark stands. But thee when I
Speaker 3: walked in, why why is it like eighty twenty Atlanta
Speaker 3: Milwaukee fans? And it took me way too long to realize, Oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: because the Falcons play on Monday nights. Yes, so many
Speaker 3: people flew in here for the weekend already and just
Speaker 3: got an added bonus.
Speaker 1: Not this woman. She was there for the Hawks. What's next?
Speaker 1: All right? Next up?
Speaker 3: We got Saturday for thirty Eastern Steelers at Ravens Steelers at.
Speaker 1: Ravens, a game that has implications for the AFC North.
Speaker 1: The Steelers have clinched a playoff berth the Ravens have not.
Speaker 1: The Ravens very likely to make the playoffs, but still
Speaker 1: Harbor hopes to win the division. If they are to
Speaker 1: do so, they must win this football game against the
Speaker 1: Steelers because they got to split that season series. Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: loses to Philly yesterday wouldn't be great. At Pittsburgh just
Speaker 1: lost all the rest of the games. They end up
Speaker 1: ten and seven and Tomlin still gets the thumbest nose
Speaker 1: at everybody Well, Gauntlet Champola and I still got to
Speaker 1: test the tes. They got it. They just got beat
Speaker 1: up by the by the Eagles yesterday three to nothing Philly.
Speaker 1: Philly had a third and four at their own forty
Speaker 1: three hertz of the ball poked out by TJ. Wattre
Speaker 1: covered by Beanie Bishop. That's set up well. No, Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: was set up at the Philly forty five. But they
Speaker 1: went three and out. Then they had a punt, but
Speaker 1: then Cooper dejen fumbled the return recovered by Nick Herbigs.
Speaker 1: They had to settle for a Boswell thirty seven yard
Speaker 1: field goal. It's like three to three and the already
Speaker 1: two turnovers for the Eagles at that point, but still
Speaker 1: just a three to three game. Philly then goes six
Speaker 1: plays seventy yards Hurts to Brown for sixteen and twenty
Speaker 1: to start the drive from five into the end zone
Speaker 1: and at ten to three Philly. Next time they got
Speaker 1: the ball after a Dejene twenty three yard part return
Speaker 1: set up at the Pittsburgh forty five. Nine plays Hurts
Speaker 1: at DeVante Smith from two out, seventeen to three Philly.
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh would answer a seventy yard drive Wilson Friar Booth
Speaker 1: from nine out to make it seventeen to ten. It
Speaker 1: was seventeen to thirteen at the half, seventeen to thirteen
Speaker 1: at the half, then it was twenty to thirteen midway
Speaker 1: through the third quarter. And here's the key of the
Speaker 1: game here. Pittsburgh Wilson to Calvin Austin for thirty one
Speaker 1: to start the drive. But three plays later, first and
Speaker 1: ten at the Philly twenty six. Remember they're only done
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Najee Harris just loses focus on a pitch,
Speaker 1: just lose folks on the ball, unforced Eric fumble which
Speaker 1: is charged to Russell Wilson, by the way, which is
Speaker 1: just awful, recovered by Darius Slay. And that was kind
Speaker 1: of it because Philly then goes thirteen plays seventy four yards,
Speaker 1: hurts in from one twenty seven to thirteen Philly first
Speaker 1: minute of the fourth quarter, and then Kelly fourth and
Speaker 1: eighth for Pittsburgh at the Philly forty seven with ten
Speaker 1: ten to go, you're down twenty seven to thirteen, and
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin opts to punt the football. Yeah, Philly starts
Speaker 1: at their own three and just milk away the clock.
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh would never see the ball a game, ball again,
Speaker 1: ballgame Philly twenty seven, Pittsburgh thirteen. And this is not
Speaker 1: armchair quarterbacking because in the moment we were shooting text
Speaker 1: back to each other. It's like he's punting at the
Speaker 1: same time. What an incredible drive Toad in the game
Speaker 1: over ten minutes, but just kneel it out at the end,
Speaker 1: brand Philly thing. Ever, Ye, Philly outgains Pittsburgh four to
Speaker 1: h one to one sixty three.
Speaker 3: I mean they had it was two drives right, two
Speaker 3: drives in the second half, Pittsburgh cad That's it.
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh. Now here's the problem, Pittsburgh TJ. Watt. In this game,
Speaker 1: TJ Watt ends up rolling his ankle. X ray came
Speaker 1: back negative, by the way, so we don't know what
Speaker 1: his status is yet for this game. But Pittsburgh famously
Speaker 1: a one in ten record straight up in games played
Speaker 1: without TJ. Watt in his career. By the way, in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, they went one in six without him. Wow.
Speaker 1: Their losses in the one in ten record are by
Speaker 1: an average of ten point eight points the game they won,
Speaker 1: the one they won by two points. They have allowed
Speaker 1: almost twenty seven points per game in the eleven games
Speaker 1: he hasn't played. So there you go. That's the TJ.
Speaker 1: Watt story. Gotta follow that. Baltimore beats the Giants, no
Speaker 1: surprise there. They did so though with five touchdown passes.
Speaker 1: Kind of count them five. I don't even want to
Speaker 1: go through the details of this game. It's no point
Speaker 1: five touchdown passes for Lamar Jackson. I just want to
Speaker 1: talk about the MVP for US for a second. Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson with those, by the way, they outgained the Giants
Speaker 1: four forty five to two thirty six. Lamar was twenty
Speaker 1: one of twenty five for two ninety five touchdowns, no picks,
Speaker 1: six carries for sixty five yards. He did lose a fumble.
Speaker 1: His passer rating, which is out of a total of
Speaker 1: one to fifty eight point three, was one fifty four
Speaker 1: point six. On the season, Lamar Jackson thirty four touchdowns
Speaker 1: and three picks. That is the fifth best ratio of
Speaker 1: all times previo currently by the way, plus seven fifty
Speaker 1: at Fandel to win the MVP. That's the high mark
Speaker 1: seven to one in other places. Lamar Jackson this year
Speaker 1: is passer rating. Remember this is the old school passer rating.
Speaker 1: Out of one fifty eight point three. His passer rating
Speaker 1: this year is one twenty point seven. If that holds,
Speaker 1: it is the fourth best passer rating of all time.
Speaker 1: Plus seven to fifty at Fandel to win the MVP.
Speaker 1: He is also possibly possibly, although he's a little off
Speaker 1: pace for this, possibly could get one thousand yards rushing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: plus seven to fifty at Fandel for MVP seven to one. Consentsus.
Speaker 3: You'll just keep trying to convince those voters because we're
Speaker 3: gonna need all the help we can get.
Speaker 1: I think, well, here's the thing, let's go back to
Speaker 1: college football this past weekend, our Ashton genty pick doesn't
Speaker 1: get there. Ashton genty loses to Travis Hunter in the
Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy vote by the closest margin since the year
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, which was the closest margin of
Speaker 1: all time when it came to Heisman voting. So file
Speaker 1: that again under great bet. Once again, that doesn't get home,
Speaker 1: by the way two thousand and nine mark Ingram edging
Speaker 1: Toby Gerhardt of Stanford like, I got the mark Ingram.
Speaker 1: Guess right you did. By the way, you know what
Speaker 1: the second closest was.
Speaker 3: I was like, the biggest upset of the weekend me
Speaker 3: Matt Gill out of dinner that we were having this conversation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you said, Mark. I was like, you're right, the
Speaker 1: second closest one. By the way, that if you have
Speaker 1: if you have to go back further in time, Bo
Speaker 1: Jackson in nineteen eighty five beat Chuck Long by forty
Speaker 1: five points. Anyway, genty r plus seven to fifty and
Speaker 1: then you could have got him at eighteen to one
Speaker 1: ends up being the second closest or just the the
Speaker 1: closest since the closest one of all the time in
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine when Ingram beats Gerhart. So again,
Speaker 1: good bet that I really thought that morning had a
Speaker 1: shot and apparently it did. It just doesn't quite get home.
Speaker 1: So file that away in the numbers game history of
Speaker 1: the What is it that one Soto one hundred to
Speaker 1: one which finished second was a Max my Man from
Speaker 1: TCU Max Duggan finished what is one hundred to one?
Speaker 1: We had him at So another great bet that doesn't
Speaker 1: go by the wayside. But back to Lamar, which is
Speaker 1: the point of bringing that up. This feels very second placey.
Speaker 3: I mean, here's the thing, though, Gil, Like, it's to
Speaker 3: back up what you just said. I don't regret the
Speaker 3: bet at all, but we said at the time, Yeah,
Speaker 3: a couple of things needed to happen.
Speaker 1: The number was Josh Betteck's the number we bettic goes
Speaker 1: of the number.
Speaker 3: We didn't believe Saquon really had a chance and Josh
Speaker 3: Allen had to stumble along the way. In the past
Speaker 3: two weeks have been absolutely ridiculous as stumble.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, can I repeat that again? Thirty
Speaker 1: four and three touchdowns interceptions, fifth best ratio of all time,
Speaker 1: one twenty point seven passer rating fourth best all time.
Speaker 1: By the way, QBR Josh Allen is edging Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: Josh Allen minus nine hundred at DraftKings to win it
Speaker 1: plus five point fifty is Lamar Jackson at DraftKings. Again,
Speaker 1: you can get Lamar at a better number elsewhere.
Speaker 3: Okay, here's when we haven't brought up in a while.
Speaker 3: Can I interest you in Lamar Jackson twenty five to
Speaker 3: one Offensive Player of the Year at all?
Speaker 1: Then what do you do with Saquon? I know that's
Speaker 1: supposed to be Saquans because he's not the quarterback, and
Speaker 1: you've given MVP to Lamar twice, so in their stupid brains,
Speaker 1: they're gonna say, well, he's already got his two. We
Speaker 1: don't have to give him anything. You're probably late Baltimore
Speaker 1: minus six. This is six six and a half out there,
Speaker 1: mainly six and a half, and a lot of that
Speaker 1: has to do with TJ. Watt. He's one of the
Speaker 1: rare non quarterbacks that matters to the number.
Speaker 3: This one's tough for me because five and a half
Speaker 3: it's a bet on Baltimore for me. I obviously, I
Speaker 3: think we're only going one direction here, all right, We.
Speaker 1: Got a lot more games to get to. We will
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Speaker 1: I guess correctly, I messed it up the first time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Joe C seven one four.
Speaker 3: Well, if that's the case on the graphic, we've been
Speaker 3: making mistakes for a lot of shows, then.
Speaker 1: Joe C seven one four, Welcome back, Gill. What's your
Speaker 1: thoughts on NBA viewership being down forty eight percent since
Speaker 1: twenty twelve. Grew up a huge NBA fan, and I
Speaker 1: can't stand watching anymore. I don't think threes, dunks, and
Speaker 1: blown twenty point leads aren't appealing even to younger viewers.
Speaker 1: What say you? You also think when half your league
Speaker 1: is hurt for half the season that's a bigger problem.
Speaker 1: And the load management you don't know when folks are playing.
Speaker 1: I think these are major problems for the league. Joe,
Speaker 1: I love you. Here's my problem with this argument.
Speaker 3: It's okay flip on a nineteen eighty eight basketball game.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's tough to watch.
Speaker 3: I don't want to watch a point guard walk the
Speaker 3: ball up the core and take eight eight I mean
Speaker 3: twelve seconds off the clock and wait for some long
Speaker 3: play to start, finally gravitating like sorry, I like athletes.
Speaker 1: This is suddenly a picture of magic, and the showtime
Speaker 1: Lakers comes up as a counter to that. But I
Speaker 1: hear what you say, Chrissy Andrews. My Mitch BOOKA from
Speaker 1: a South Point has the greatest story when the Seattle
Speaker 1: SuperSonics lost the NBA Championship the Bullets the Washington Bullets
Speaker 1: in seventy eight and won it against the Bullets in
Speaker 1: seventy nine. Gus Williams and Dennis Johnson played for the
Speaker 1: super Sonics before he played for the Celtics. They used
Speaker 1: to have a conversation walking the ball up the court, right,
Speaker 1: They literally would have a conversation. That's how slow the
Speaker 1: game was at that time. I'll tell you one of
Speaker 1: the he probably doesn't go this far, Gill.
Speaker 3: But the one thing I can say as an NBA fan,
Speaker 3: the timeouts are way too many.
Speaker 1: Like it just the game finally.
Speaker 3: Gets groove in a groove and going well, and then
Speaker 3: it's time out, time out time.
Speaker 1: I also would say this what the Warriors, yes about
Speaker 1: a bit Warriors comment here what they made so beautiful? Right?
Speaker 1: The beautiful basketball of what they did. Steph Curry is
Speaker 1: ultimately a unicorn, a guy who has the handle to
Speaker 1: support the shot, who can make his own the passing
Speaker 1: game that they had with Draymond when Clay was there,
Speaker 1: the Dynastic Warriors. You can't really duplicate the beauty of that,
Speaker 1: and other teams, analytically speaking try to, but it's not
Speaker 1: the same beauty on the basketball court. So I hear
Speaker 1: what he's saying. This is sly Brie. If it was
Speaker 1: legal for the TV talking, he has to say anything
Speaker 1: other than Tomlin never had a losing record. They would
Speaker 1: tell you that Tomlin quit on the game by punting
Speaker 1: on fourth and seven, as you say, in Eagles territory,
Speaker 1: because the Steelers clearly had trouble stopping the Eagles. Colin Murphy,
Speaker 1: take a look at Jonathan Green and defensive player of
Speaker 1: the Year fanatics has five hundred to one how much
Speaker 1: they canna let you put on that. Colin yet to
Speaker 1: play to night against a bad Bears O line and
Speaker 1: his stats are right up there with Hunter, Watt and Bonito.
Speaker 1: This might be the most misprice the wordline I have
Speaker 1: ever seen. He says, Buddhist man grabbing the Benitos aka
Speaker 1: the Marshawn needs to not only be grandfathered in as
Speaker 1: a perfectly legal celebration, it should be also encouraged as
Speaker 1: the as it guarantees the player carrying the ball over
Speaker 1: the goal line. It's a very good point, that last
Speaker 1: one right there, Las Vegas, five one four yo. Not
Speaker 1: only did Rigo just flip the ball to the reps,
Speaker 1: he also towed Supreme Court Justice Sandra Dale O'Connor, loosen up,
Speaker 1: Sandy Baby, Washington legend, welcome back. Do you know that story? No,
Speaker 1: I don't know that.
Speaker 3: When thinking about the front flip into the end zone too, Like,
Speaker 3: that's another way to make sure you hold onto the ball.
Speaker 1: When the Skins won the Super Bowl in January of
Speaker 1: eighty three, their first ever Super Bowl title, he showed
Speaker 1: up at some dignitaries dinner with like a top haad
Speaker 1: in a tuxedo. John Riggins did, and he got drunk
Speaker 1: and he ended up like under the table literally and
Speaker 1: Supreme Court Sandra enter Dale O'Connor, he said, loosen up,
Speaker 1: Sandy Baby, you're too tight. It's great, all right, great,
Speaker 1: it's next.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna update one game we talked about because
Speaker 3: there is movement this morning that Texans Chiefs line. We
Speaker 3: are up to three in multiple spots, including right behind
Speaker 3: us here.
Speaker 1: At so they came up to my non Mahomes line. Yep, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, we are at Sunday early window. Giants at Falcons.
Speaker 1: All right, Giants loose the Ravens, by the way, their
Speaker 1: only bright spot, Malik Neighbors ten catches for eighty two
Speaker 1: to touchdown. They're at outgained by Baltimore four forty five
Speaker 1: to two thirty six as the Giants lose their ninth
Speaker 1: in a row. Man I say this about the Giants.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have the first pick in the draft and
Speaker 1: it's probably not gonna be Shador because Shador doesn't want
Speaker 1: to play for them, He wants to play for other
Speaker 1: Raiders of the Cowboys. So this is starting to feel
Speaker 1: like cam Ward maybe your number one pick in the trap.
Speaker 1: Oh we were talking about that? Who is I talking about?
Speaker 1: Being Ben?
Speaker 3: I think last week where I'm like this is that?
Speaker 3: One's kind of interesting to me when you keep hearing
Speaker 3: these stories.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this feels like an Eli Manning situation. Shador,
Speaker 1: by the way, is the U is the favorite minus
Speaker 1: one twenty five his Hunters plus two Fitty Cameron Ward
Speaker 1: from the U plus three eighty shop around. I saw sis,
Speaker 1: I saw six to one on It feels like a
Speaker 1: good bet to me. Right now. They're at Atlanta Atlanta
Speaker 1: Police tonight against the Raiders. Do you have to play
Speaker 1: on any of either of the games tonight?
Speaker 3: I have the vikings to close out a teaser from
Speaker 3: last week with the Rams.
Speaker 1: On Thursday night, I'll say Atlanta minus seven and a
Speaker 1: half signed unseen here. This one is Falcons ten ten. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's fine. My seven and a half is probably too late. Man.
Speaker 3: We're at the part of the year. We said this
Speaker 3: like a couple of weeks ago. We're at the part
Speaker 3: of the year where it's just you end up being
Speaker 3: a little light on everything.
Speaker 1: Ten seems okay to me too. Two and a half
Speaker 1: points off, and I'm like, sure, it's.
Speaker 3: A little light, but you're not wanting to bet the
Speaker 3: Giants at No. Next Patriots at Bill's all right.
Speaker 1: Patriots lose the Cardinals. There really is no point in
Speaker 1: getting into that game. Patriots just sort of beaten pretty
Speaker 1: good in that game. There was a there was one
Speaker 1: play early that I will point out This was an
Speaker 1: un tensional one where it was three to zzing Arizona
Speaker 1: and they had a six play eighty yard drive Connor
Speaker 1: fifty three yards to run it. Then it ended with
Speaker 1: Greg Dortch running the ball in from the eighth. The
Speaker 1: ball was poked out by Anthony Jennings on the way
Speaker 1: into the end zone. The ball went into the end zone,
Speaker 1: Jonah Williams recovered it just before it went out the
Speaker 1: back of the NZL, but that wasn't an unforced one.
Speaker 1: So anyway, Cardinals win that game handily thirty to seventeen.
Speaker 1: Although I will say this that was a horrible beat
Speaker 1: for Unders players because it was a flurry of touchdowns
Speaker 1: at the end in that game. Yeah, it was twenty
Speaker 1: one to fourteen. Excuse me, what was it? No, I'm
Speaker 1: wrong game it was? Was it twenty three to three
Speaker 1: with ten minutes and thirty nine seconds left in the
Speaker 1: game and it ended thirty to seventeen. So Unders went
Speaker 1: to die Buffalo in what was supposed to be the
Speaker 1: marquee game of the day yesterday, Buffalo just destroyed Detroit.
Speaker 1: The final score doesn't show that, but it kind of did.
Speaker 1: Buffalo first, they got the ball after a three and
Speaker 1: out for Detroit. Seven plays seventy three yards, Alan Tid
Speaker 1: Johnson for thirty three, the big chunk to Johnson for
Speaker 1: twenty four later on third and five, two plays later,
Speaker 1: Allen in from one seven to nothing. Buffalo, then another
Speaker 1: Detroit punt after Goff got sacked twice. Buffalo nine plays
Speaker 1: seventy eight yards, Alan to Cook for twenty eight to start,
Speaker 1: Allen in from four to end it fourteen to nothing
Speaker 1: Buffalo with two minutes left in the first quarter. Detroit
Speaker 1: would get it to fourteen to seven, but Buffalo immediately
Speaker 1: answers back nine plays seventy yards, including a fourth and
Speaker 1: second conversion at their own forty nine, Allen to Tid
Speaker 1: Johnson for thirty one. Three plays later, Cook in from
Speaker 1: six twenty one to seven. Detroit would then have a
Speaker 1: ten play seventy yard drive which included a fourth and
Speaker 1: fourth conversion of their own to Saint Brown for twenty
Speaker 1: one and a Goff ten yard scamper on third and ten.
Speaker 1: Eventually Goff to Dan Skipper from nine out twenty one
Speaker 1: to fourteen, but Buffalo first play in suing drive Alan
Speaker 1: de Keon for sixty four. They tacked on a rough
Speaker 1: in the passer, so half the distance. So now Buffalo
Speaker 1: is up seven. This was the moment where you thought
Speaker 1: Detroit might get back in it. Buffalo was set up
Speaker 1: at the Detroit three. Cook for one to Curtis Samuel
Speaker 1: for one, then a false start Allen and complete, and
Speaker 1: after a lengthy injury timeout, Bass missed a twenty four
Speaker 1: yarder and it remained twenty one to fourteen at the half.
Speaker 1: But then Buffalo started the second half the way that
Speaker 1: they left off. Four play seventy yards, cook in from
Speaker 1: forty one, twenty eight to fourteen, he got to thirty
Speaker 1: five to fourteen, and then it was just kind of
Speaker 1: cosmetic from that point forward. But I do want to
Speaker 1: point out the big thing because because after the Detroit
Speaker 1: Packers game, after the Packers Thursday night game, I went
Speaker 1: on this whole rant Friday morning about how I don't
Speaker 1: think Dan Campbell knows what he's doing with these decisions,
Speaker 1: and as a guy who loves going for it on
Speaker 1: fourth down, I just think he doesn't. There's not a
Speaker 1: tactical thing, and I know he has a staff telling
Speaker 1: him what to do, but he's the buck stops with him.
Speaker 1: It's his decision, and I just think he goes forward
Speaker 1: because he's like trying to live up to his reputation.
Speaker 1: He doesn't know when to and when not to. Well, yesterday,
Speaker 1: at thirty eight to twenty eight, with twelve minutes left,
Speaker 1: he declares that I do declare an on side kick,
Speaker 1: and Matt Collins caught an instride, took it thirty seven
Speaker 1: yards of the Detroit five. They end up scoring again
Speaker 1: forty five twenty eight. What are you doing calling the
Speaker 1: on side kick with twelve minutes left, you have all
Speaker 1: three time outs, you're only down two scores ten points.
Speaker 1: And for those who would come back and say, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know they couldn't stop Buffalo, so I get it. Well,
Speaker 1: the smoking gun for you then is when they got
Speaker 1: it to forty five thirty five, they should have done
Speaker 1: it again and they didn't. So that proves once again
Speaker 1: to me that Dan Campbell is just kind of off
Speaker 1: the cuff with all this stuff. I mean the other
Speaker 1: part of it too.
Speaker 3: If we if we do think there's someone you know,
Speaker 3: running by analytics and these numbers in his headset right
Speaker 3: the Okay, I understand you can't stop them on defense.
Speaker 1: But we all know how low.
Speaker 3: The percentage is of you were covering an on side.
Speaker 1: Kit Buffalo minus fourteen and a half against Newing fourteen
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Speaker 3: I keep getting distracted by us on the screen and
Speaker 3: noticing that there's a new background every time there we
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Speaker 1: At first that was like what does that say behind us?
Speaker 1: But then I'm like, oh, those are the screens. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was black for a segment or two on the
Speaker 1: show this week. Nick Mackay, the showrunner for Bookie season number.
Speaker 3: Two, executive producer too, I believe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Max, I believe it is is a Max. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Of course I go to point to it. It's a
Speaker 3: blue screen now. But I believe they are doing some
Speaker 3: adverage as he deal with Circa, because they've got a.
Speaker 1: Big band round for it, Yeah, starring a Sebastian Manuscalco
Speaker 1: among others in that. So we'll talk to Nick. He's
Speaker 1: always kind enough to drop by on the show from
Speaker 1: time to time. Also Justin Fann from Unabated. We hope
Speaker 1: to have in here, Gina Fiori as well from Unabated,
Speaker 1: and depending on whether he gets through or not, maybe
Speaker 1: a little Jake Bensequin for Survivor.
Speaker 3: Wonder if he'll be any more uh on the edge
Speaker 3: now because he's been very cool, calm and collected so far.
Speaker 1: Think about Survivor though, is as long as that Christmas
Speaker 1: quirk exists, and it exists, none of the people with
Speaker 1: the fifty can feel comfortable. You can't even think about
Speaker 1: the money yet with that, because that's gonna be you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of eliminations and then when
Speaker 1: you get past that, then it starts. Then it's gonna
Speaker 1: be super nervy. Yeah, I will be.
Speaker 3: But I'm shocked we lost as few as we did
Speaker 3: get in through things given.
Speaker 1: It's amazing we get tweet of beating the book, Jeremiah Westgate,
Speaker 1: So we have a campbellism fellas the onside kick down
Speaker 1: ten with twelve minutes in the fourth court down with
Speaker 1: twelve minutes left in the fourth quarter. I am on
Speaker 1: the lines and I did not have a problem with it,
Speaker 1: especially since they haven't stopped the bills all day. To
Speaker 1: get back, the Lions would have had to stop the
Speaker 1: bills two times in addition to converting their possessions. Thoughts,
Speaker 1: it sucks that they had to declare they actually got
Speaker 1: a nice bounce that almost got tipped forward. Yeah, but Jeremiah,
Speaker 1: that's the thing. It's such a small percentage of the
Speaker 1: get through. But again, I'll make my point that I
Speaker 1: made very quickly in the last segment, which is if
Speaker 1: you thought that that was okay, then what then you
Speaker 1: must have been disappointed when they didn't do it the
Speaker 1: next time down ten, because then it makes no sense
Speaker 1: to me, right, And that's why I get to the
Speaker 1: point of what I said before about Dan Campbell, which
Speaker 1: is I don't think he's doing anything based on any
Speaker 1: kind of mathematics or plan, right, He's just doing it
Speaker 1: on this this vague feel thing which I said, you know,
Speaker 1: the day after that that primetime game against the Packers.
Speaker 1: I can just see it getting them again in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: and remember it got them last year against the Niners.
Speaker 1: Keith Kingston, who was at the game, says, I thought
Speaker 1: about you as I'm sitting at the game and the
Speaker 1: Lions announced onside at twelve minutes, remaining worst decision by
Speaker 1: the Lions since former Lion head coach Marty Morningwgg deferred
Speaker 1: in the overtime kickoff in two thousand and four to
Speaker 1: take the win at Soldier Field. Happy hanukah that by
Speaker 1: the way, he shows us his view, amazing view of
Speaker 1: the He had great seats for that, he said. He
Speaker 1: also added as as call Campbell. Dan Campbell later said
Speaker 1: he regretted his decision, and in the video you can
Speaker 1: see Campbell's reaction standing in front of the camera crew.
Speaker 1: He just looks down and probably is thinking to himself,
Speaker 1: oh man, not much of a physical reaction. This is
Speaker 1: from This is from I want to continue with these.
Speaker 1: Thank you for all the tweets. This is from Michael Burns.
Speaker 1: Wish I had live footage of Toddy sweating that Arizona under.
Speaker 1: He actually texted he was bragging about his Arizona under
Speaker 1: and you know what happens when you do that prematurely.
Speaker 1: Djen Southern Jed Jayden Daniels is quieting all the Cliff
Speaker 1: Kingsbury sucks in the second half of the season critics,
Speaker 1: and for that alone, he's the Rookie of the Year. Discush.
Speaker 1: Eric berg Gill is about to experience the Yokich losing
Speaker 1: to Embiat MVP experience. Just seems no one wants to
Speaker 1: acknowledge Lamar after he won it last year. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: Yokich wanted to be clear was that they didn't want
Speaker 1: him to win three in a row, which is a
Speaker 1: legendary NBA thing only done by three others. Edward Perez,
Speaker 1: let's go back to that Dan Campbell question from a
Speaker 1: few weeks ago. Like you were saying, I think he's
Speaker 1: answering the question for us every week, what's next week sixteen?
Speaker 1: In the NFL, we haven't really found.
Speaker 3: Much value yet now we really haven't. Okay, early window
Speaker 3: Lions at Bears.
Speaker 1: Lions of Bears. By the way the Lions get out
Speaker 1: gained by the Bills five fifty nine to five twenty
Speaker 1: one in that game Josh Allen twenty three of thirty
Speaker 1: four for three to sixty two, two touchdowns and no picks,
Speaker 1: eleven for sixty eight to two touchdowns on the ground.
Speaker 1: And the only other thing I want to say about
Speaker 1: the game is the last on side kick? Where was
Speaker 1: forty eight to forty two? Because oh, there was a
Speaker 1: couple other things. Pardon me, I forgot one other thing?
Speaker 1: Did you catch when it was forty eight? Let me
Speaker 1: get this right. It was forty eight to thirty five,
Speaker 1: Buffalo forty eight to thirty five, just north of the
Speaker 1: two minute warning. Campbell, with all three timeouts, wasted thirty
Speaker 1: nine seconds not calling a timeout when Buffalo had the ball.
Speaker 1: Just we're not gonna need those thirty nine seconds. And
Speaker 1: by the way, Detroit ends up scoring in the closing
Speaker 1: seconds to make it forty eight forty two. Even if
Speaker 1: they get the on side kick, it would have to
Speaker 1: be a hail Mary situation. You don't think you could
Speaker 1: have used those thirty nine seconds, Dan Campbell. He was
Speaker 1: making mistakes, not just it wasn't just the on side kick.
Speaker 1: That little moment will get washed away as well. I
Speaker 1: won't let it. And the only other thing I want
Speaker 1: to say, is that Tony Romo on that onside kick
Speaker 1: he did the whole like it was like vintage Romo
Speaker 1: was like Buffalo recovers. It's not annoying at all, Buffalo recovers.
Speaker 3: I just need Yeah, that's like the that's been Romo
Speaker 3: the whole time, right. We loved him those first couple
Speaker 3: of years when he still do all the playbooks, and
Speaker 3: now it's just like we don't make noises.
Speaker 1: I don't know shit, Detroit at Chicago? Is that what
Speaker 1: you said? I got said.
Speaker 3: I'll have to share a fantastic Instagram a reel that
Speaker 3: someone put together of just somebody impersonating Robo doing all that.
Speaker 1: It's the guy that he imitates Romo and Collinsworth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: as a guy that's just dueling Romo Collins here's a
Speaker 1: guy Detroit minus seven and a half. Detroit minus seven
Speaker 1: and a half. That's Chicago. Oh man, alright, Detroit seven
Speaker 1: and a half. I'm all out of whack here. Let's
Speaker 1: see Lions. We've got seven right now over at draftings Chicago. Obviously,
Speaker 1: that's just Chicago trying to win a game and not
Speaker 1: go not lose their last eleven of the season. That's
Speaker 1: what they're trying to avoid as they've gone from four
Speaker 1: to four and two to four and nine. Detroit, by
Speaker 1: the way, still controls their destiny in the NFC North,
Speaker 1: but so to do the Minnesota Vikings. Now Minnesota Vikings,
Speaker 1: including tonight's game, they've obviously got to win tonight. Both
Speaker 1: teams control their destiny now because the Vikings play the
Speaker 1: Lions the last last week of the season.
Speaker 3: Just just amazing how this season has gone like it
Speaker 3: has and how how little respect this Vikings team has
Speaker 3: gone through sixteen weeks.
Speaker 1: As great as Detroit has been the entire time. We've said,
Speaker 1: they've yet to do anything because the Vikings and Eagles
Speaker 1: for the number one seed won't leave them alone.
Speaker 3: Okay, I know the Lions have like basically nobody left
Speaker 3: on the on their defensive starters on their.
Speaker 1: Depth chart, but this is coming down to seven.
Speaker 3: I'm intrigued by the Viking side or the Lions side
Speaker 3: against the Bears.
Speaker 1: Oh, the Lions side.
Speaker 3: Sorry, next intrigued, haven't made a bet, but intrigued. Okay,
Speaker 3: Next up, Browns and Bengals.
Speaker 1: Browns and Bengals. Browns. We talked about they lose to
Speaker 1: the to the Chiefs, Jamis bench for DTR in this
Speaker 1: What are you saying, Rex, Ryan is like they need
Speaker 1: to bench Jamis? That was hold on, check my nose.
Speaker 1: Why what's that can accomplish? We alred?
Speaker 3: You know there was a couple that was that was
Speaker 3: Rex this morning talking about benching Russell Wilson for Joe feels.
Speaker 1: Oh that's even worse. That's even worse.
Speaker 3: This is but this one, guys, Jamus, you know all
Speaker 3: knew what you were gonna get with Jabis.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna be some great moments. There are gonna
Speaker 1: be some duds.
Speaker 3: I don't think DTR is any better. I mean, don't
Speaker 3: we know that by now?
Speaker 1: Cincinnati beats the Titans. A bunch of survivors got through
Speaker 1: with Cincinnati yesterday as well. It's at circa not much
Speaker 1: to say about this. Every Cincinnati game is kind of
Speaker 1: the same. It's like a hole serve break serve thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because their defense is so bad. Tennessee's worse. So they
Speaker 1: won this football game thirty seven to twenty seven. There
Speaker 1: was a moment in this game that I want to
Speaker 1: point out. Okay, Tennessee, what's the scores? Twenty four to fourteen.
Speaker 1: Cincinnati at the half, lev Is picked by Gino Stone
Speaker 1: to the house to make it thirty one to fourteen,
Speaker 1: and then Tennessee first and tend the Cincinnati thirty three Pollard,
Speaker 1: tackled by McKinley Jacksony fumbles. Jordan Battle recovers it sixty
Speaker 1: yards of the house, except at the doorstep he had
Speaker 1: just the in his hands for no reason and fumbles
Speaker 1: out of the back of the end zone. What is
Speaker 1: happening in this league?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: There was a lot There was a bunch of people
Speaker 1: who were like giving giving Jordan Battle a pass, yes,
Speaker 1: because they said he didn't do it intentionally, But why
Speaker 1: are you adjusting the football at that moment? Then? What
Speaker 1: are you doing? You're preparing for the celebration.
Speaker 3: This is where this is where I'm gonna I'll give
Speaker 3: a cut up a little bit of slack because at
Speaker 3: least he's not an offensive play.
Speaker 1: But it's not as bad as the tailor thing. But
Speaker 1: it's up there anyway. Cincinnati wins at thirty seven to
Speaker 1: twenty seven in a horrible ball game where there were
Speaker 1: ten turnovers, six by the Titans, four by the Bengals.
Speaker 1: The Bengals had fourteen penalties for one hundred and thirteen
Speaker 1: yards and the Titans had twelve for one. Ten.
Speaker 3: Okay, so that combination has never been done in NFL history.
Speaker 3: The combination of that many turnovers and penalties had never
Speaker 3: been done.
Speaker 1: And your guy, Billy Levies completed eight forward passes and
Speaker 1: then three to the other team. That's not a good race.
Speaker 1: She even to keep going. Man, I got twenty four
Speaker 1: to one on him to lead it NS.
Speaker 3: I don't think he's gonna get there, though, because Kirk
Speaker 3: Cousins only throws to the other teams these days.
Speaker 1: Cincinnati minus four and a half hosting Cleveland. You are
Speaker 1: very awf on this one. Bengals seven point favorites. Ooh, okay,
Speaker 1: am I gonna is Wayne Brady gonna have to take
Speaker 1: the Browns? Is Wayne Brady gonna have to take some breath?
Speaker 1: This is honestly, honestly, I hate to bet on the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, but the Bengals defense is so bad that
Speaker 1: you almost have to do. Yeah, that's a Brown I think.
Speaker 1: I hate to say it. I'm fam I'm betting the Browns.
Speaker 1: There's a play. Oh that's fun. That's an exciting bet
Speaker 1: that we'll have. That'll have to live through what's next.
Speaker 3: It will be exciting because you got Jamis, but you
Speaker 3: know they can just break your heart at the end,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: All right, Next up, we've got Titans at Colts. So Titans,
Speaker 1: we just talked about Levis eight for twelve for eighty nine.
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph had to come in that game in Indiana,
Speaker 1: we talked about who coughed the game away to the Broncos.
Speaker 1: Broncos didn't even get two hundred yards of total offense,
Speaker 1: thank you, Jonathan Taylor. Indianapolis minus four as Indianapolis's playoff
Speaker 1: hopes fade Colts four and a half. All right, we'll
Speaker 1: come back. How many more games? We get a bunch
Speaker 1: of more games to get to, right, Yeah, we do three, six, eight,
Speaker 1: We'll get to them. We'll do it, guessing line. So
Speaker 1: the Browns, sadly is the one I like the best
Speaker 1: so far? You yes, you as well?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think so. We did not speak about it, now
Speaker 1: we did not? Okay, all right, I think Lamar Jackson's
Speaker 1: gonna for a second. Even though those again those stats
Speaker 1: are historic top five historic touchdown interception ratio and passer
Speaker 1: rating might get a thousand yards rushing and people are
Speaker 1: like whatever, you've won it twice, we'll just give it
Speaker 1: a Joshaw. Not that he doesn't deserve it, but you
Speaker 1: get the idea. We'll come back guessing lines. Look at
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Speaker 1: says Gill. You're one hundred percent correct. If you thought
Speaker 1: the onside kick was the right move with twelve minutes
Speaker 1: to go, how can it not be with eight minutes
Speaker 1: to go? Makes no sense? And if you think you
Speaker 1: can't stop them, Why give them the ball in midfield? Uh,
Speaker 1: Michael Burns, don't hate on my Eastern Illinois A lums.
Speaker 1: I was there when Peyton was quarterback, Kevin Duckworth was
Speaker 1: patrolling the Peyton, Kevin Seitzer was manning the hot corner.
Speaker 1: That's a reference to Tony Romo that I was busting
Speaker 1: on Tony Romo. I don't know, Jim, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Buffalo recovers. I gotta pay that video during the break
Speaker 1: bop c D show one three seven regarding the NBA,
Speaker 1: how about a mix of athletes being athletic? Kelly's argument
Speaker 1: and just stop the flopping and everyone's spinning their little
Speaker 1: fingers in the air and crying after every call. I
Speaker 1: grew up loving the NBA. I can't watch these grown babes.
Speaker 1: Oh that one's tough. Yeah, I can't argue with any
Speaker 1: of that. Three Jack h three one three one. Thanks
Speaker 1: for the Wayne Brady reference. Made me laugh. On what's
Speaker 1: not been a great day? We were so close on
Speaker 1: that Heisman bed no way, Lamar beats out Josh Allen
Speaker 1: though at this point. Glad you're back in the saddle
Speaker 1: this week. Thank you very much. By the way, if
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and the Ravens win the AFC North, sure,
Speaker 1: there's still a path. We're not dead if they win
Speaker 1: the AFC North, a tougher division than the AFC East.
Speaker 1: By the way, yes, where the second place and third
Speaker 1: place place teams are definitely better than the other teams
Speaker 1: second and third place teams.
Speaker 3: If that happens and Josh Allen gets abducted by aliens
Speaker 3: in the next week, there's a path.
Speaker 1: What if Lamar Jackson ends up with forty two touchdown
Speaker 1: passes and three picks and a thousand yards rushing and
Speaker 1: people are just gonna look the other way, We'll give
Speaker 1: it to Josh Allen.
Speaker 3: Where does he compare, right, I haven't looked up the
Speaker 3: updated stats with him at Burrow?
Speaker 1: What if he has the greatest passer rating of all time?
Speaker 1: He's fourth. Now it's just insane.
Speaker 3: I mean, Burrow is still leading touchdowns yards yards by
Speaker 3: a lot.
Speaker 1: You know we're gonna have to have Sando come on
Speaker 1: the show. He's another voter. We do him once a year.
Speaker 1: It's fine what Sando has to say. Okay, what's next.
Speaker 1: We gotta get a bunch of games. Get to you here
Speaker 1: next up Titans at Colts. Titans at Colts. Didn't we
Speaker 1: do that? We did that on Rams at Jets? When
Speaker 1: did you get here? Did you not? Were you not here?
Speaker 1: Last segment? Apparently not? Jets ramped the Jets Rams. Oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, Rams won that slog of a game
Speaker 1: on Thursday night in the rain in San Francisco, and
Speaker 1: the Rams are eight and six, looking good in the
Speaker 1: NFC West. Right now, Kyron twenty nine for one o eight.
Speaker 1: They held San Francisco to one hundred and ninety one
Speaker 1: total yards on Thursday. The Jets beat the Jaguars yesterday.
Speaker 1: Not much to say about this game other than when
Speaker 1: it was seventeen to six, it was sixteen to ten Jags,
Speaker 1: and then the Jets go on a seventy yard drive.
Speaker 1: This is late third quarter Rogers to Davante from one out,
Speaker 1: one hundredth touchdown of Adam's career seventeen sixteen Jets four
Speaker 1: thirty three to be accurate left in the third quarter.
Speaker 1: A couple drives later for the Jacksonville Jaguars eight play,
Speaker 1: seventy three yards, Max Jones to Brian Thomas twenty two
Speaker 1: to seventeen. Jag wires two point try fails, ten to
Speaker 1: fifty eight left in the game. Then Andrews Carlson misses
Speaker 1: a forty eight yard field goal drive after Rodgers threw
Speaker 1: a dime to Lazard that got broken up, and Rogers
Speaker 1: had to put his hands on his helmets and let
Speaker 1: everybody know that it wasn't his fault and there was
Speaker 1: a receiver's fault because his past was so great, so
Speaker 1: I interpreted it. Jets, next time they have the ball,
Speaker 1: four plays, eight eighty seven yards Rogers to Davante from
Speaker 1: seventy one out, what a play, touchdown twenty three, twenty two,
Speaker 1: and then to Davante for two twenty five twenty two,
Speaker 1: Jets three, twenty four left. Jacksonville comes back cam Little
Speaker 1: forty three rd field will to tie it one fifty
Speaker 1: one left in the game, twenty five to twenty five.
Speaker 1: Jets third and ten at their own thirty Rogers to
Speaker 1: Davante swing for twenty three. Jodasy amazing catch, third and
Speaker 1: five at the Jacksonville forty two. Rogers to Davante for
Speaker 1: forty one. Kind of looked like he didn't know if
Speaker 1: he should score or not. Did you see that at
Speaker 1: the end, Yeah, he was like I'll drop down here
Speaker 1: next play bries In for one didn't matter thirty two
Speaker 1: to twenty five, and then Jacksonville third and won at
Speaker 1: the Jets forty seven Mac picked by a sauce ball game.
Speaker 1: Rogers sixteen for thirty for two to eighty nine, three touchdowns,
Speaker 1: Davante nine for one to ninety eight and two touchdowns
Speaker 1: four Jets fans, Yeah, they gonna watch a game like, Hey,
Speaker 1: there's the Jets offense. Looks pretty good. Rams by four
Speaker 1: on the road at the Jets Rams three and a half.
Speaker 3: Right now, there are some heavy threes.
Speaker 1: Oo, I may take it, I may lay that at three.
Speaker 3: I'm a little intrigued by there are three minus one
Speaker 3: twenty behind.
Speaker 1: Us at circa. You know, we talk about patterns for teams,
Speaker 1: like the Bengals are like a tennis match or are
Speaker 1: they holding serve? Are they breaking serve? It's like a
Speaker 1: that's every Bengals game. The Rams games have seemed to
Speaker 1: take this pattern where they kind of stink in the
Speaker 1: first half and then you know, at halftime they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we got this figured out. This is a testament to
Speaker 1: the coaching staff.
Speaker 3: By the way it is it is, I mean, miss
Speaker 3: Stafford compared first half and the second half on that
Speaker 3: Thursday night.
Speaker 1: It was quarterback. It's happened more than that that time.
Speaker 3: We didn't really get a chance to talk about that
Speaker 3: games you were here on Friday. I don't I don't
Speaker 3: know if I've ever been more disappointed by a football
Speaker 3: game in my entire life. Like I was looking forward
Speaker 3: to that. I thought it was gonna be a great game.
Speaker 3: Weather just like throws everybody out of whack in the
Speaker 3: first half.
Speaker 1: And then San Francisco could be like that this time
Speaker 1: of year. Yeah, or the Bay in general, I should say,
Speaker 1: since that's insanely Clara. Next Eagles, that Commanders Eagles we
Speaker 1: talked about. They beat Pittsburgh. They dominated them again, Mike
Speaker 1: Tomlin punting with over ten minutes left and never seeing
Speaker 1: the ball again. AJ Brown eight for one to ten
Speaker 1: in a touchdown, DeVonta Smith eleven for one oh nine
Speaker 1: in a touchdown. They outgained Pittsburgh four to one to
Speaker 1: one sixty three. And then there's the DC Skins. You're
Speaker 1: a Washington Commandos taking on the UH. Jake Hayner led
Speaker 1: Saints UH Washington first time with the ball. They settled
Speaker 1: for a field goal, but a unecessary roughness penalty on
Speaker 1: the Saints extends the drive, leads to a ridiculous Daniels
Speaker 1: scramble and throw to the incomparable one Terry McLaurin sixteen
Speaker 1: yards in the end zone. What a catch? What a pass?
Speaker 1: Seven to nothing? Skins?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: New Orleans third and four. A couple drives later third
Speaker 1: and four of their own thirty two Hayter pressured picked
Speaker 1: by Mike Sandristril Uh sand restill, pardon me from Michigan Washington,
Speaker 1: fifty three yard drive. Jayden to McLaurin from three out,
Speaker 1: the incomparable one, only Jamar Chase. He's good. More touchdown
Speaker 1: catches this year than Terry McLaurin by a lot, by
Speaker 1: the way, but again we get back to the Redskins seasons,
Speaker 1: I mean the Commander Seaton. Do you remember after the
Speaker 1: first couple of weeks when I said they really should
Speaker 1: introduce Jayden Daniels to Terry McLaurin, because remember the first
Speaker 1: two weeks, he didn't even know he was there. It
Speaker 1: was a great running joke for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: It well, it turned out to be good anyway. It
Speaker 1: gets a seventeen to nothing. Rattler comes in for Hainer
Speaker 1: for the Saint seventy one yard drive six plays. Rattler
Speaker 1: to Valdez Gantley for thirty nine sets ups, Cedric Wilson
Speaker 1: to Kamara from twenty went out seventeen to seven. Kamara
Speaker 1: fourth player ever, fifty rushing touchdowns, twenty five receiving touchdowns.
Speaker 1: Then Washington Greg Joseph. Who's their fourth kicker of the year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it really was five. Brandon McManus was signed in the
Speaker 1: off season. They had off the field stuff and they
Speaker 1: had to cut him. So they've had four kickers this year.
Speaker 3: You want a random fun fact about Greg Joseph, please?
Speaker 3: I cover him in both high school and college. Is
Speaker 3: that a random fact about you or about Greg jos
Speaker 3: I really know?
Speaker 1: Good point? Do you think Greg Joseph is going around?
Speaker 1: You know a random fact about Kelly Bidlin. I ran
Speaker 1: into him in high school practices and college practices. That
Speaker 1: was a great the way you spun that. So Joseph,
Speaker 1: here's the end of the third quarter. It's seventeen to seven. Joseph.
Speaker 1: They line up for a forty one yard field goal try.
Speaker 1: He misses it. You know what the refs didn't notice.
Speaker 1: This is a poor tent of things to come. The
Speaker 1: refs didn't notice that the the game clock had expired
Speaker 1: in the third quarter, so they were like, oh, doesn't
Speaker 1: count that you missed it. We forgot the third quarter end.
Speaker 1: This was a part of this game. I did not
Speaker 1: catch third quarter ended. So he got a redo to
Speaker 1: begin the fourth quarter and he sunk the field goal.
Speaker 1: So twenty to seven Washington. This is all a poor
Speaker 1: tent of things to come. Grupe hits two field goals
Speaker 1: to cut it to twenty to thirteen, a forty one
Speaker 1: yard at a fifty one yarder with six fifty seven left.
Speaker 1: Then Washington ends up up seven points. Now fourth and
Speaker 1: one at their own forty five. Jayden just gets the
Speaker 1: one yard that extends the drive. They end up with
Speaker 1: the New Orleans thirty six. Pardon me. With two minutes left,
Speaker 1: they're up seven, fourth down. Joseph, do you kick the
Speaker 1: field goal here a fifty three yarder or do you
Speaker 1: just pooch punt it? Washington decides, even after seeing that
Speaker 1: Joseph missed that forty one yarder that didn't count, they
Speaker 1: decide to kick it, which I think was a terrible decision.
Speaker 1: In the moment he misses it wide right, so New
Speaker 1: Orleans ends up taking over it their own forty four
Speaker 1: with one fifty five left, down seven. That's the move.
Speaker 1: You're right, no, Hainar, no Kamara. Kamara was out with
Speaker 1: a groin injury at this point. I think Kamara's battled
Speaker 1: through nine in and still puts up THEMB Yeah, one
Speaker 1: timeout New Orleans have. They get it to the Washington fifteen.
Speaker 1: They lose two yards. They use their last timeout with
Speaker 1: thirty eight seconds left. They're on the seventeen yard line,
Speaker 1: nine yards Juan Johnson over the middle. The clock runs
Speaker 1: then incomplete, so it's fourth and three at the Washington
Speaker 1: eight with seventeen seconds left. They need to get in
Speaker 1: the end zone to Foster Moreau for seven yards to
Speaker 1: the one yard line. First down. The clock stops. Remember
Speaker 1: they have no timeouts. The clock stops because the official
Speaker 1: on the bottom of the screen running up is waving
Speaker 1: his arms in the clock stop motion. It stops for
Speaker 1: a couple beats, maybe about three seconds exactly, for no
Speaker 1: reason whatsoever. Rattler goes to the line of scrimmage. She
Speaker 1: spikes it with three seconds left. The game probably should
Speaker 1: be over instead, he goes to Moreau from the one
Speaker 1: touchdown twenty to nineteen, and they decide. Coach Rizzy says,
Speaker 1: we're going for two to win the game. Two point
Speaker 1: try five survivor entries on the line. Washington teasers screwed
Speaker 1: Rattler here Rattler incomplete intended for Johnson. The survivor entry
Speaker 1: survived ballgame. Washington wins twenty to nineteen. In a series
Speaker 1: of events that should never have happened, should never happen.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of ways we complained about losing bets
Speaker 3: on this show, Gil.
Speaker 1: That is a way that should never happen. Philadelphia minus
Speaker 1: three at Washington three and a half, disrespectful. I'll take
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Speaker 3: It's awesome, awesome to see we get tweets of beating
Speaker 3: the book.
Speaker 1: This is from Ed Zeralski, who is actually quoting a
Speaker 1: Warren Sharp tweet, our buddy Warren Sharp. He said, this
Speaker 1: is unforgivable talking about the Saints Washington ending. Unforgivable by
Speaker 1: as Sean Hockyley's crew. The game should have been twenty
Speaker 1: to thirteen. Instead Washington almost lost on a two point
Speaker 1: conversion twenty one to twenty. Can it happened because of
Speaker 1: an official Perhocuy himself quote mistakenly stopped the cluote. Absolutely unbelievable,
Speaker 1: And Ed Zarowski tweets at me he said, uh, inexcusable,
Speaker 1: and it's why betting the NFL is as Gil says
Speaker 1: my Sugarn, the officiating crew, Sean Hockeyley just admitting, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a total mistake. The only explanation, and by the way,
Speaker 1: I was watching it live right, I saw the clock
Speaker 1: stop and I'm screaming at why is the clock stopped? Why?
Speaker 1: The only possible explanation I could have come up with
Speaker 1: in the moment was that official thought that Bobby Wagner
Speaker 1: was lying on top of Moreau to a point that
Speaker 1: he thought he was delaying the game. But that never
Speaker 1: came up. They never they never said that. I didn't
Speaker 1: see that enough, but it was we were talking about
Speaker 1: that pre show. I think great point by you, because
Speaker 1: you're right, how there's not many other reasons that you
Speaker 1: could think of of why that guy would think he
Speaker 1: should have to stop it, And they never said that.
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Westgate tweeting back, and he says, stop claiming John
Speaker 1: Riggins as a redskin. He's a Jet. I watched him
Speaker 1: through the app days to the Mohawk days. He's ours Skins.
Speaker 1: Claiming Riggins is the same as the Jets claiming Curtis Martin.
Speaker 1: You need to stop, You just absolutely need to stop.
Speaker 1: That's the worst argument I've ever heard. John Riggins will
Speaker 1: forever be identified as a Washington redskin. I get it.
Speaker 1: He had his Jets years, Torch d Gilla, you gotta
Speaker 1: chill on the Dan Campbell hatred. I don't hate Dan Campbell.
Speaker 1: I'm just pointing out when no one else is willing to,
Speaker 1: because everyone slurps Dan Campbell all day long on Sundays
Speaker 1: like he's just this unbelievable thing. I think he makes
Speaker 1: the I think he makes a higher rate of questionable
Speaker 1: decisions than almost anybody Toeorched goes on to say he
Speaker 1: wasn't brought there for analytics. He's the leader of men.
Speaker 1: That team is ready to run through a brick wall
Speaker 1: for that man, and I do not think enough can
Speaker 1: be said about that factor. The calls will tighten up
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, well, you're more optimistic than I am.
Speaker 1: I think the calls will continue to be questionable his calls.
Speaker 1: And the other part of that is how much do
Speaker 1: you want him to tightened up? You know, if for
Speaker 1: the if for the majority of the season things have worked,
Speaker 1: when he's done it, I don't know if I want
Speaker 1: a guy going to the playoffs completely changing out he's
Speaker 1: coaching a great point, because then if he loses it
Speaker 1: that way, people are gonna murder. Yeah. Yeah, Eddie Moush
Speaker 1: Saints game. What happened to the officials keep the keeping
Speaker 1: the official time that wristwatch thing. Yeah, uh, Tony Farmer.
Speaker 1: Of the seven survivors who have Kansas City left, six
Speaker 1: of them could pivot to Pittsburgh if desired because of
Speaker 1: mahomes injury, and the other could pivot to Seattle have desired.
Speaker 1: Nobody has only Kansas City available for Christmas. I will
Speaker 1: just say this about that again. He's talking about Circus
Speaker 1: Survivor again. Fifty entries left, fifteen or on the vikings tonight,
Speaker 1: whoever's left Christmas, which is you're gonna have to get
Speaker 1: through one more weekend, this coming weekend to get to
Speaker 1: the Christmas quirk that Christmas. Those six teams, I will
Speaker 1: repeat again, there is not one comfortable pick among them,
Speaker 1: even if well, if Mahomes doesn't play, okay, that gets
Speaker 1: a little more comfortable in that game. If Gino doesn't play,
Speaker 1: it gets a little more comfortable, but not comfortable enough.
Speaker 1: But you'll get to that game because man di's Sam Howe.
Speaker 1: Sam Howell looked like you didn't even practice. We talked
Speaker 1: about practice. You need to show up at practice, Sam
Speaker 1: how All right, what's next? Cardinals at Panthers Cardinals we
Speaker 1: barely talked about because there's no point. They beat the
Speaker 1: Patriots Cardinals in the mix in the NFC West at Carolina, Carolina,
Speaker 1: I thought I had Carolina in this game. I couldn't
Speaker 1: have been more wrong. Bryce Young with a little bit
Speaker 1: of back to being Bryce here, yeah there. This was
Speaker 1: the first time in thirty four games that the Carolina
Speaker 1: Panthers were a favorite. Did you know that? Yeah? Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Well care I guess what they lost?
Speaker 3: Bat It felt like to be we had swung too far.
Speaker 1: Zero zero. Carolina matriculated, but first intent of the Dallas
Speaker 1: eighteen Bryce for three hit by Maris Leu fou fumbles
Speaker 1: recovered by Marshawn Neiland. Dallas a couple drives later, seventy
Speaker 1: seven yard drive rushed to ceed Lamb for twenty, twenty eight,
Speaker 1: twenty and twenty eight and fourteen into the end zone,
Speaker 1: all on third downs. Seven to nothing, Dallas. They would
Speaker 1: lead it ten to nothing, and then at the end
Speaker 1: of the first half there was a sequence where you
Speaker 1: thought Carolina might get back in this game. Ten to nothing.
Speaker 1: Dallas has a third and one at the Carolina fourteen
Speaker 1: with forty five seconds left, they're knocking at the door again.
Speaker 1: You think they're gonna go up seventeen to nothing. Rush
Speaker 1: fumbles werecovered by DJ Johnson with forty two seconds left,
Speaker 1: and then Carolina first played Bryce to Jalen Cocher for
Speaker 1: eighty three ten to seven Dallas, and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: Dallas gonna mess this up. They're gonna lose this game. Nope.
Speaker 1: Third quarter they just dominated. First play Bryce sacked by
Speaker 1: osa Odeguzawa, fumbles Chauncey Golson recovers. Dallas set up at
Speaker 1: the Carolina twenty nine five plays, rushed to Jalen Tolbert
Speaker 1: from eleven out. Next time they had the ball, rushed
Speaker 1: to Jalen Brooks for seventeen beautiful pass twenty four to seven.
Speaker 1: The route was on thirty to fourteen Dallas four ten
Speaker 1: to two, thirty five total yards advantage, Carolina minus three
Speaker 1: in turnovers. I will say Arizona minus three and a
Speaker 1: half at Carolina four. God okay, next vikings at Seahawks.
Speaker 1: Ikey's played tonight against the uh The Chicago Bears fifteen
Speaker 1: survivor entries on the line for that one. This is
Speaker 1: going to require two different lines, just like the Chiefs game,
Speaker 1: because if it's Gino, it's one thing. But if it's
Speaker 1: Sam Howe, good God, do you see that game last night?
Speaker 1: Fourteen to nothing Green Bay before you could blink first
Speaker 1: two drives, that just dominated. And they had Chris collins
Speaker 1: Worth being like, here's a guy. He was like, wow, Chase,
Speaker 1: so he's watching the two thousand and seven Patriots fourteen
Speaker 1: to nothing Packers. They dominated. By the way, Jordan Love
Speaker 1: was great in this game. He's awesome. He was great.
Speaker 1: He's a gunslinger.
Speaker 3: His ceiling is so high. The problem is, I don't
Speaker 3: know where the floor's at.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they are. They're one of these teams where
Speaker 1: it's like the proverbial, you don't want to face him
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, and yet you'd be equally you would
Speaker 1: be equally likely to see him play great or have
Speaker 1: a Conker correct. But when he's good, he's great. Twenty
Speaker 1: to three at the half, it got to twenty to six,
Speaker 1: and then the close this Seattle got in this game
Speaker 1: was twenty three to thirteen on a Charbonnet twenty four
Speaker 1: yard touchdown, but that was after Gino got hurt. He
Speaker 1: got rolled up on. By the way, Green Bay won
Speaker 1: this game, thirty to thirteen. There's not much to say
Speaker 1: about it. It was complete domination. Gino didn't return after
Speaker 1: taking a low hit from Edrin Cooper. This is when
Speaker 1: it was twenty three to six. Seahawks coach Mike McDonald
Speaker 1: said Smith's knee appears to be intact structurally, but his
Speaker 1: status for next Sunday's game against the Vikings is up
Speaker 1: in the air. And so I think the line here
Speaker 1: is it's either Minnesota minus six on the road, or
Speaker 1: it's probably like Seattle minus one and a half split
Speaker 1: the difference if it's Gino.
Speaker 3: Okay, we got an interesting situation here, Okay, because you're
Speaker 3: roth it's Vikings four right now.
Speaker 1: So that's assuming no Geno I'm saying. I think I
Speaker 1: think so too.
Speaker 3: But man, you take away Geno Smith from this Seahawks team.
Speaker 3: You're telling me this Vikings team is only about a
Speaker 3: six and night half point better team on a neutral Well.
Speaker 1: I'm saying there's a seven and a half point difference
Speaker 1: between Geno and l and that's and by the way,
Speaker 1: that's a lot of respect for Gino, but that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I think I don't like to do this. The last
Speaker 3: time I did it and burnt me bad. But he
Speaker 3: bet the team before Monday Night football. But man, lay,
Speaker 3: I'll lay at four. I can get on board with that.
Speaker 1: With the Vikings, Howell just looked he I mean, look,
Speaker 1: I'm sure if he had a week of practice so
Speaker 1: he gets the first team reps, he'll look better. He will.
Speaker 1: Washington somehow managed to win four games with him last year.
Speaker 3: But he just looked, you're gonna have a rest advantage.
Speaker 1: To his defense. His offensive line wouldn'tet him any time either,
Speaker 1: So there was that, But he just looked so overmatched. Look,
Speaker 1: thought the game was so quick for him. Let's do
Speaker 1: one more here. That one's got me intrigued. Jags at Raiders,
Speaker 1: buy your tickets now. Yeah, what did I say about
Speaker 1: that Tennessee Jacksonville game where I said how much would
Speaker 1: I have to pay you? That turn? That lived up
Speaker 1: to all the hype?
Speaker 3: This is a Sunday one twenty five? How much would
Speaker 3: you have to pay me to attend this game?
Speaker 1: But ten that's right, So you're not able to watch
Speaker 1: the other Sunday games. You're forced to go to a
Speaker 1: llegian And no, you don't get phone, you don't get
Speaker 1: to bet on this game or any other game, and
Speaker 1: you don't get TVs to watch the other game.
Speaker 3: Am I allowed to order stadium beverages and food?
Speaker 1: You're limited to only two beverages and one food item only,
Speaker 1: so you've got to focus on football. Okay.
Speaker 3: Is there a random chance like the last game I
Speaker 3: went to, that Ludicris performs at halftime?
Speaker 1: Luda, No, I don't know. You don't have to give
Speaker 1: you like one thousand dollars to go to this Raiders
Speaker 1: minus one and a half. This is I think you're
Speaker 1: right on it. Raiders one Mac Jones, by the way,
Speaker 1: yesterday for the jag Wires, thirty one for forty six
Speaker 1: for two ninety four Thomas Brian Thomas Junior having a
Speaker 1: great year for Jacksonville quietly ten for one oh five
Speaker 1: until he's been awesome. Man. Yeah, I just want to
Speaker 1: go back to green Bay here and in the last
Speaker 1: few seconds of the sement though, and just say this again,
Speaker 1: see by the way, Seattle's toast if they don't have
Speaker 1: geno hate to say it, and green Bay. If I
Speaker 1: were to ask the question of any error guests, who's
Speaker 1: the non obvious team? So you take Detroit and Philly
Speaker 1: off the board in the NFC, and you take the Bills,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, and I don't know the Ravens off the
Speaker 1: table in the AFC. Who's the most dangerous playoff team?
Speaker 1: I think the Green Bay Packers are the Packers.
Speaker 3: Ben and I looked at some exact as last week
Speaker 3: and I did two of them with Packers and Texans.
Speaker 3: And my explanation was of teams that are not nearly
Speaker 3: as good as that a list group, but I think
Speaker 3: still could get there both those teams.
Speaker 1: I still believe it coming back games to get to
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Speaker 1: Shine doing the updates during the NFL yesterday? Oh was
Speaker 1: he at it again? I caught him a few weeks ago.
Speaker 1: I think he was filling in doing that great job.
Speaker 1: Jim Nantz throwing to him, Yeah, yeah, we get tweets
Speaker 1: at beating the book mile high. David Inferior Boll says,
Speaker 1: if only it was the National Brick Wall League, I'd
Speaker 1: be all in on Dan Campbell. He says, Okay, I
Speaker 1: like that. Jason Stark, welcome back, Gil missed you last week.
Speaker 1: Steelers are still going to win eleven games for my prediction,
Speaker 1: for my prediction a few weeks ago. All still going
Speaker 1: to plan. Hey, Jason Stark, man, anyway you slice the Jason,
Speaker 1: It's been a good year.
Speaker 3: It's been the with the the football season of tweeters,
Speaker 3: regular tweeters. Jason Stark's been all over it start to finish.
Speaker 3: As soon as those Steelers got hot, he was never
Speaker 3: gonna let us forget about it.
Speaker 1: And Berdie Betts as caution on the Packers guild. They
Speaker 1: still have not beat a good team. Not sure why
Speaker 1: people keep dismissing the Vikings. Bikes have a much better
Speaker 1: defense and a more complete offense. The Bikes wide receivers
Speaker 1: catch the football far more consistently than the Packers wide receivers.
Speaker 1: Packers wide receivers kind of sneaky. Good. Yeah, don't, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't dismiss what you're saying. I mean, this is
Speaker 1: the thing for people who like, if I say anything
Speaker 1: negative about Buffalo, they go crazy to say anything the
Speaker 1: negative about Detroit. Detroit fans go crazy. I say it
Speaker 1: about my team, right, we said it all year. Washington
Speaker 1: and Houston. I will put those two teams together. Washington
Speaker 1: and Houston are the proverbial, you know, ninth or tenth
Speaker 1: best team in football. They are exactly what they are, right.
Speaker 1: They beat every team, or they consistently beat the teams
Speaker 1: that are worse. I know there's an exception here and there,
Speaker 1: but consistently beat the teams that are worse than them,
Speaker 1: and consistently will not beat the better teams. And you
Speaker 1: know there's a ceiling for both of them. They both
Speaker 1: will probably get into the playoffs, and they both at
Speaker 1: the most, at the most probably not but the most
Speaker 1: will win one playoff game. So we get that about
Speaker 1: those teams. So there's really defined levels to this team
Speaker 1: to these teams this year.
Speaker 3: So what's funny is I'm the guy caught up in
Speaker 3: my prior still because I just said Houston.
Speaker 1: I throw in there with Green Bay, where I think
Speaker 1: the ceiling.
Speaker 3: Could be because what do we always talk about with
Speaker 3: the NFL playoffs, You don't have to win best of
Speaker 3: seven sixty minutes.
Speaker 1: It's get hot for a.
Speaker 3: Few games and you're right there, that's right, and I
Speaker 3: believe the Packers could do that. And I mean, Gil
Speaker 3: it's killing me every week.
Speaker 1: But af CJ.
Speaker 3: Stroud on this offense just starts to remotely look like
Speaker 3: that what they were a year ago.
Speaker 1: Don't look very good. They don't. I mean the defense
Speaker 1: and Washington, you know again, they they got the worst
Speaker 1: of it with the refs yesterday at the end of
Speaker 1: that game, for sure, so it probably should have been
Speaker 1: a seven point wins. But you know, we talk about
Speaker 1: the patterns of these teams. Washington has gotten into a
Speaker 1: little bit of this pattern where they have like comfortable
Speaker 1: leads and then they just sort of coast in yeah
Speaker 1: and barely get by sort of thing. I don't know.
Speaker 1: You know, Jayden's been great. He's the rookie of the
Speaker 1: year I think for sure. But again, the Packers are
Speaker 1: probably a level above those two teams Washington Houston in
Speaker 1: my opinion, but the Packers are at level below the
Speaker 1: elite Minnesota though two year point Birdie bets They're the
Speaker 1: team I do have trouble with. I can't really get
Speaker 1: behind it, but I hear what you're saying. They keep
Speaker 1: winning and that's the name of the game. So like
Speaker 1: at some point you are what you are. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, change out the quarterback.
Speaker 3: But it just feels like the same conversation we've had
Speaker 3: for the past like three years about this team. Nobody
Speaker 3: actually believes they're as good as what their record says
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 1: Well, and they're probably not, but they're probably not. That
Speaker 1: doesn't mean they stink, right, all right, We got a
Speaker 1: few more to give.
Speaker 3: We get a few more Sunday four to twenty five
Speaker 3: Eastern Niners at Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Niners with the extra rest losing to the Rams on Thursday. Miami,
Speaker 1: coming off the loss to Houston, uh niners with one
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety one total yards against the Rams toua yesterday.
Speaker 1: As we talked about, twenty nine to forty for one
Speaker 1: to ninety six, one touchdown, three picks out gained Houston.
Speaker 1: The Dolphins did two twenty four to one eight one
Speaker 1: one but minus three in turnovers. Oh no, they outgained Houston.
Speaker 1: Pardon me, Miami outgained them two twenty four to one
Speaker 1: eighty one, but the minus three in turnovers sunk them.
Speaker 1: I'll say, Miami minus three. This is Dolphins.
Speaker 3: This has gotten steamed down one and a half two
Speaker 3: and I think I will be forty nine ers in
Speaker 3: a teaser.
Speaker 1: Forty nine ers and a teaser a teaser. But again
Speaker 1: we talk about levels of teams. Do we really know
Speaker 1: what the Dolphins are? No?
Speaker 3: No, no, I don't know that I know what the
Speaker 3: Niners are right now either.
Speaker 1: But I wasn't near Friday, but Devondre Campbell that whole thing,
Speaker 1: like the Niners.
Speaker 3: Just came through suspended for the next three.
Speaker 1: Games, suspended for three games, would have lost season from
Speaker 1: injuries for them. This was this was still part of
Speaker 1: their This was supposed to be their window and they
Speaker 1: just what a horrible year? What was it? Miami is
Speaker 1: what now? One and a half, one and a half,
Speaker 1: two points favorites. What's next?
Speaker 3: We have Sunday Night football Bucks at Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Bucks at Cowboys, Oh revenge game from the NFC Championship
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy nine. I think rememory serves. Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: outgained the charges, as we mentioned, five oh five to
Speaker 1: two oh seven. Mayfield twenty two for twenty seven for
Speaker 1: two eighty eight, four touchdowns, one pick, Irving fifteen for one,
Speaker 1: seventeen Evans nine for one to fifty nine and two touches.
Speaker 1: Cowboys in their win against the Panthers Doubtle twenty five
Speaker 1: for one nine, and of course the requisite shot of
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones up in the box just loving life. It's like, okay, Jerry,
Speaker 1: still live. Tampa Bay minus four. They are gonna win
Speaker 1: this division. Baby, you are all over it.
Speaker 3: It is three and a half four everywhere. I will
Speaker 3: be monitoring that one because I think the Bucks look
Speaker 3: like a nice maybe money.
Speaker 1: Line parlay side there. Monday Night football. Monday Night Football.
Speaker 1: Back to one reminder, are two games tonight, YEP, saintsat Packers.
Speaker 1: Packers thirteen. You just gave me the line, let me
Speaker 1: guess thirteen. First time I've done that this year. My
Speaker 1: actual guess was gonna be ten and a half. Okay, thirteen? Sure?
Speaker 1: Interested in the Saints is another game though, Like I'm
Speaker 1: not interested in the Saints out time of possession yesterday
Speaker 1: forty minutes and fifty seconds to nineteen ten, as the
Speaker 1: officials tried to give them a game yesterday.
Speaker 3: Arnel Darnell needs a Kelly fail sounder on standbyer