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Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live, presented by Calida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, welcome to the middle of the week. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Steve task you with you here on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Glad you could make some time in your day to

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Speaker 2: join us, as it is another OTA practice day for

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Speaker 2: the Bills, closed to the media, but they were working

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Speaker 2: hard today out on the practice field. I think it's

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Speaker 2: just about wrapping up now, and as we know, next

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Speaker 2: week we'll be mandatory mini camp and then the team

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Speaker 2: is basically off for about five to six weeks and

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Speaker 2: then you blink an eye, summer's over. It's training camp.

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Speaker 1: And you and I are sitting on that little in

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Speaker 1: that veranda we call that is that an Miranda gazebo?

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Speaker 1: Something in our.

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Speaker 2: Dolf it's almost too big for a gazebo right of veranda.

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Speaker 2: Down in Florida, they call it a lannaish.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be over inside the stadium my lemonade. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: outside the stadium there at Saint John Fisher practically be

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Speaker 1: going on. People be you know, milling around, yelling at us.

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Speaker 2: Once in a while. Those are the those are the

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Speaker 2: three weeks we get to wear shorts to work. That's

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Speaker 2: nice that I enjoy that. Yeah, that's all right. It's

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Speaker 2: a nice perk. I it's I'm for it.

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Speaker 1: Small price to pay for driving to Rochester every day

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Speaker 1: in back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't stay.

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Speaker 1: I do not, And I got a life.

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Speaker 2: I will say that I probably stay over less than

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Speaker 2: I used to.

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Speaker 1: They do give me, they do give me a room,

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Speaker 1: you know, like I got the dorm room and go

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Speaker 1: over there, and you like, you know, you can keep

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Speaker 1: a change of clothes over there, or whatever we get

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Speaker 1: rained on or whatever, take a nap or whatever. Nap.

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Speaker 1: I'm an old man. You take naps occasionally all that

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Speaker 1: and then but you know I don't. Yeah, I never stay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it. I get it. Come on, man,

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Speaker 2: but I'm telling you, man, we're gonna blink and we're

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Speaker 2: gonna be there.

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Speaker 1: I know it will be.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna happen that fast.

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Speaker 1: It will happen very fast.

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Speaker 2: So with OTA's are still going on, obviously, so we'll

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Speaker 2: keep our ear to the ground on any developments there.

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Speaker 2: We do know there was a roster change this morning

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Speaker 2: that came down and we heard Brandon be and Steve

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Speaker 2: the media yesterday they're going to continue to churn the

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Speaker 2: back half of their roster. They did it again this morning,

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Speaker 2: signing cornerback Cameron Dancler, former starting corner of the Minnesota Vikings,

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Speaker 2: then was released by them, picked up by Washington last year,

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Speaker 2: didn't finish the season with Washington and was a free agent.

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Speaker 2: It's only twenty four years old. Guy played in thirty

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Speaker 2: five games, was a starter in twenty six of them

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Speaker 2: know what happened there. He kind of fell out of

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Speaker 2: favor with the coaching staff, and then he was signed

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Speaker 2: by the Commander's last March, but was released for this

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Speaker 2: twenty one. I gotta tell you, Steve, I watched Cameron

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Speaker 2: Dansler play. I've seen him play a few games. He

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Speaker 2: reminds me of Levi Wallace. That's kind of maybe maybe

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Speaker 2: that kind of player, long athlete. Well, dancer doesn't execute

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Speaker 1: Right, Well, he he's a better athlete than levib just

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Speaker 1: He's obviously got the measurables as well to go with that.

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Speaker 1: But he's certainly exactly what you said, he's got those measurables.

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Speaker 1: We've seen the Bills like before. You look at you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, with rare exception, those guys all fit, yes, some

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Speaker 2: To make room for him on the roster, the Bills

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Speaker 2: we said it on yesterday's show. The Bill's roster is

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Speaker 2: better this year than it was last year. It's deeper,

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Speaker 2: it's more talented, and nobody outside of Western New York

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Speaker 2: knows it. No, yes, like no national media is tone

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Speaker 1: Think about Cam Danceller and Leonard Floyd in two Days,

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Speaker 1: two starters. Yeah, there's there're guys who started June Man Brandon,

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Speaker 1: big boer Bean. That's the way Tredavias says it.

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Speaker 2: Well, he coined the term.

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Speaker 1: He coined the term, and that's I'm now, I don't

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Speaker 1: know why you know Cam Danceller is available. Obviously he'd

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Speaker 1: JaMarcus Ingram, he's one of those six two one ninety guys.

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Speaker 1: So he's long the same guy as Dancling, right, and

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Speaker 2: Right, But he's playing, you know, he's he's been transitioned

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Speaker 1: So he's on their roster. He's listed as a corner still,

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Speaker 2: Well, he's played both.

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Speaker 1: But you've also got you know, the safety. You've still

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Speaker 2: It's so deep.

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Speaker 1: There's a ton of guys and I know this is

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Speaker 1: So I'm man oh man all for me at this point,

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Speaker 1: just staying healthy this year. If the Bills stay healthy

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Speaker 1: If Vaughn's on the field, if Leonard Floyd's on the field,

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Speaker 1: they are They're loaded. They are loaded to me, and

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Speaker 1: you're right, nobody's writing about it. It's amazing how much

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Speaker 1: that last game of the season the year before dictates

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Speaker 2: Was on him absolutely without question. Other Bill's news Josh

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Speaker 2: Allen is the player on the cover of Madden twenty four.

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Speaker 2: This year was officially announced today. I think one of

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Speaker 2: the coolest things is the Deluxe addition of Madden twenty

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Speaker 2: after presumably scoring a touchdown and he's being swarmed by

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Speaker 2: Bill's fans. So Bill's Mafia, congratulations, you are the first

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Speaker 2: Job well done. Yeah, and I wouldn't be surprised if

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Speaker 2: Josh had some influence on that. Said, Hey, can we

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Speaker 2: row of the stands, with fans swarming him in exuberation. Yea,

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Speaker 2: much like we see on Sundays when players score and

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Speaker 1: The Madden twenty four Delexe edition cover with Josh sitting

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Speaker 2: they first started putting players on there in nineteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 2: official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills. Steve, what do

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Speaker 1: If you don't have a true franchise quarterback, there's your

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Speaker 1: You don't have one quarterbacks, you don't have any.

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Speaker 2: that the team says will reduce the heat factor by

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Speaker 2: more than seventy percent, primarily for the fans who just

431
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Speaker 2: sit there and bake and the players, you know. Widen

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Speaker 2: the main concourses considerably. They're going to have lookout decks

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Speaker 2: so you can look at the city. I guess if

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Speaker 2: you want to do that. I don't know why you

435
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Speaker 2: go to the stadium to watch a game and then

436
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Speaker 2: they feel like you want to take in the city.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Two pools added in twenty fourteen as

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Speaker 2: part of their sixty three million dollar renovation, will remain,

439
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Speaker 2: as well as the large video boards that span the

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Speaker 2: length of each end zone. I can tell you, Steve,

441
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 2: we were down there probably over ten years ago now.

442
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 2: It was a week two game in Jacksonville. It was

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Speaker 2: blistering hot. Our department had Jeff Matthews was a shooter

444
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Speaker 2: at that time. He looked wiped out at the end

445
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Speaker 2: of that game. And I remember former Buffalo News photographer

446
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Speaker 2: James McCoy he actually suffered heatstroke, passed out on the

447
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 2: sidelines it was so hot. So the canopy is a

448
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 2: very good idea down there.

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Speaker 1: It's not going to be a dome. It'll be like

450
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Speaker 1: an umbrella.

451
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a shade most I think natural light

452
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 2: will be able to come down in the middle, but

453
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Speaker 2: there will be a sun blocking canopy that covers the

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Speaker 2: majority of the stands, similar to the canopy we'll see

455
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Speaker 2: in the new Bill Stadium, which will cover at least,

456
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Speaker 2: from what we've been told, almost two thirds of the fans.

457
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Speaker 2: So there will be more protection for Bill's fans, primarily

458
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Speaker 2: from the elements. It looks like in this new Jacksonville

459
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 2: Stadium renovation. There will be more protection from the sun

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Speaker 2: for the fans with the canopy. So I didn't see

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Speaker 2: it timetable as to when all this is supposed to

462
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Speaker 2: be done, did you, I did not. Yeah, they're also

463
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 2: creating it in such a way that they could expand

464
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Speaker 2: the seating capacity up to seventy one seventy one thousand

465
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Speaker 2: and five hundred.

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Speaker 1: They could put on another nine five hundred seats.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're looking to attract other events, you know, whether

468
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Speaker 2: it's World Cup soccer coming in twenty twenty six, or

469
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Speaker 2: the Draft or the NFL Draft. No mention of the

470
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl though, which was held down there in two

471
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Speaker 2: thousand and five, So I thought that was interesting that

472
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Speaker 2: the super Bowl wasn't mentioned. If you remember, back in

473
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Speaker 2: two thousand and five, Jacksonville really struggled without having the

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Speaker 2: necessary infrastructure to support an event that size.

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Speaker 1: So and that, Yeah, the events and the venues that

476
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: for all the extracurricular events that lead up to the

477
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: Super Bowl were so spread out it became an issue

478
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: and hotel rooms right downtown near the stadium. They were

479
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Speaker 1: to bring in cruise ships and stuff like that. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: they didn't mention it hey, and hey, it looks great,

481
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: and it's it's gonna be an awesome venue. Good for them.

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Speaker 1: That's that's tremendous. It's cool that, you know, as we heard,

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Speaker 1: and we were kind of shocked by it. Yet, the

484
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: other day, when the Bills did their groundbreaking for their

485
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Speaker 1: new stadium, just Monday or Tuesday, Roger Goodell mentioned he'd

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Speaker 1: been a part of twenty groundbreakings. Yeah, for new stadium.

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Speaker 1: That's I was shocked when I heard that, and you'd

488
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: go back and look, it's like, oh wow, Yeah, there

489
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: have been that many new stadiums built. That's I think

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Speaker 1: the league's Do you think the league is prosperous? I

491
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: think it's kind of seeing they're.

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Speaker 2: No complaints here. Yeah. Our topic of discussion for you today,

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Speaker 2: what was your reaction to seeing Josh Allen on the

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Speaker 2: cover of Madden twenty four. It's, as we said, the

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Speaker 2: first time a Bill's player has grace the cover of

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Speaker 2: the video game. It's easily the most recognizable video game

497
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 2: out there. I mean, I'm sure people probably tell me, oh, no,

498
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 2: it's not as popular as this, that or the other.

499
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 2: This is a household video game name. It's a household name.

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00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 2: I mean, it really is, and.

501
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Speaker 1: Your TV package. These are the local affiliates.

502
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 2: Your dad knows. Your dad knows what this game is,

503
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like enormously popular.

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00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's that's right, it's the I think it's

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00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: the first mega video game. I don't is that a word?

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Well, hey, you used it, it

507
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: might as well be so good for you.

508
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: Like even old guys like me know that game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So you let us know what's your reaction to

510
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Speaker 2: seeing Josh Allen on the cover of Madden. Are you pumped?

511
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 2: Are you excited? What about the fans being on the

512
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Speaker 2: cover with him? Let us know at eight oh three

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Speaker 2: oh five point fifty one eighty eight five fifty two,

514
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 2: five point fifty the number to get on board. Got

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00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 2: open lines for you there, so feel free to chime in.

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00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 2: If you can't call, you can hit us up on

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Speaker 2: the tweet sheet at one Bill's Live on Twitter. We

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Speaker 2: will step aside here, but be back with your phone calls.

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Speaker 2: On Josh Allen gracing the cover of Madden twenty four,

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Speaker 2: we'll see in a second here on one Bill's Live,

521
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Speaker 2: presented by Colid of Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right,

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00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 2: welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown Steve Tasker

523
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: with you. What was your reaction after you've found out

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Speaker 2: that Josh Allen will be gracing the cover of Madden

525
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 2: twenty four, first Bill's player ever to be on the

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Speaker 2: cover of the man in game. You let us know

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00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 2: at eight oh three five fifty one eight eight five

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00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 2: point fifty two five fifty the number to get on

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00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 2: board open line for you there, so feel free to

530
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 2: chime in. Otherwise, hit us up on the tweet sheet

531
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Speaker 2: at One Bill's Live. But uh, we go to the

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00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 2: phones to Pete in South Buffalo. What do you got

533
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 2: for his? Pete?

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00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 4: Hey, what's going on?

535
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 5: Guys?

536
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 4: Thanks for taking my call.

537
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

538
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 4: Hey, I real quick, Brownie.

539
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 6: You know what's kind of funny?

540
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 4: People tell me that you're my doppel ganger, that we

541
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 4: look kind of similar.

542
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 7: So, no, kidd, random question, Random question I have for you.

543
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 4: It says anybody ever said he looked like Brandon Bean

544
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 4: because I've gotten before too.

545
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 2: No. Never, My hairline is horribly different from Brandon, who's

546
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 2: got much more hair than me.

547
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Speaker 4: That's funny, it's completely in left field. But I just

548
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 4: want to throw it out there. My I'm really excited

549
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 4: for Josh to be on the cover of Madam. But

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Speaker 4: one question I had for you guys really random, just

551
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Speaker 4: kind of going off of what you said about the

552
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Speaker 4: Jacksonville Stadium. Obviously, the community has spent a lot of

553
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Speaker 4: time kind of helping dig out the stadium after lots

554
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 4: of storms and whatnot to get to get a game

555
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 4: day ready. Do you guys know has the stadium? Are

556
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 4: they constructing something that is going to help them get

557
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 4: rid of the snow more efficiently in the future. I

558
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 4: was just kind of curious if they're doing anything innovative

559
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 4: from that end. If you guys do anything about that,

560
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Speaker 4: I appreciate it.

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00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, not that I know of. It's an interesting point.

562
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if they I had never thought of that,

563
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: of like making some sort of mechanism so they can

564
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Speaker 1: scoop the seats out of their aisles out for the

565
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Speaker 1: fans on game day. I hadn't really thought about that.

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Speaker 1: I have not heard anything like that. And you know,

567
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: we all know too that it wasn't like in the

568
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: storm the weekend before Thanksgiving this past season. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: so much getting the snow out of the stadium as

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Speaker 1: the parking lots, and as we all know, if you're

571
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Speaker 1: going to do that, you need trucks, trucks plows.

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Speaker 2: So I know, and I don't pretend to know anything

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Speaker 2: about making snow removal procedures more efficient, but I would

574
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 2: think it's naturally going to be more efficient in the

575
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 2: new stadium because you are no longer going to have

576
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Speaker 2: only one entry point and one exit point from the

577
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 2: field to outside the stadium. There will be multiple ways

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Speaker 2: to do that in the new stadium, which has been

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Speaker 2: one of the biggest roadblocks for setting up TV production

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Speaker 2: items for the networks to get ready for a game.

581
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 2: There's only one road in, one road out to the stadium,

582
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 2: which as we all know, is the tunnel entrance, and

583
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 2: it's very inefficient for the sack trucks and everybody coming

584
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 2: in to lay cable and lines and everything like that

585
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 2: to get a television broadcast ready here for games, you know,

586
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 2: whether it's a regular Sunday one o'clock game or a

587
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 2: primetime game, they got to come here early to get

588
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 2: all that set up. Because there is only one way

589
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 2: in and one way out in the new stadium. That

590
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 2: will not be the case. So just by that standpoint, Steve,

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Speaker 2: I think it will be more efficient removing snow either

592
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Speaker 2: from the field or the stands. And I do know

593
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 2: that more of the stands are going to have the

594
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Speaker 2: ambient heating in the covered areas of the field of

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Speaker 2: the of the stands. Is that going to be enough

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Speaker 2: to melt snow. I don't know about that, but I

597
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 2: do know with more entry and exit points at the

598
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 2: field level that you know, the stadium ops cruise will

599
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: probably be more efficient just from that standpoint.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, And the canopy will keep the snow up,

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Speaker 1: some of the snow out of anyway, and then it

602
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: you know, less to deal with, right, And the wind

603
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Speaker 1: is all And also as we've heard a lot about

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00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,719
Speaker 1: the design of the state and the exterior shell, is

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00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: that that outer part, that outer shell isn't going to

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00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: be like solid. It's going to be kind of a

607
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: grill of certain shaped grill that's going to confuse the

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00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: wind and knock it down.

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00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. We've heard the term win in confusion.

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00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: Right, So it's gonna it's gonna make it so the

611
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: wind doesn't whip through the stadium like it's as in

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Speaker 1: this place. It'll be dissipated. So how that affects snowfall?

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00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: And how to you know how the snow is gonna

614
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: fall into that stadium? Is gonna be really something to

615
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Speaker 1: be there? May be they probably ran.

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00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 2: Tests on it.

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00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: I no fall and accumulation, right, So what that's gonna

618
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: look like? We have to wait and see. But I'm

619
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Speaker 1: sure they've done. They probably got some idea, at least

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Speaker 1: the engineers do.

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Speaker 2: Back to the phones and to Steve in Rochester. What

622
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 2: do you got for Steve?

623
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Speaker 5: Take my money?

624
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 8: I watched that Josh Allen cover of Madden.

625
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 9: Definitely that's awesome.

626
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so you're pumped about it? Fair enough.

627
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Steve, but your connection is bad. Say I

628
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 2: gotta let you go. But Steve's really excited, and he said,

629
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Speaker 2: take my money. Yeah, what do you What do you

630
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: think about that? Do you think there are gonna be

631
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 2: people Bill's fans that maybe even are in gamers, that

632
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,439
Speaker 2: just buy it because Josh is on the cover.

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00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: Sure as a collector's piece, Sure it'll be it'll be

634
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 1: worth right.

635
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 2: I think I could see Bills fans doing that that

636
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 2: aren't even gamers. I could say it's.

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00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: Gonna get one for that. Don't take it out of

638
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: the box or anything.

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00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 3: Leave it.

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00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, leave it its original packaging, right.

641
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: And then put that and put that original package inside

642
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: another package, du per original packaging. So if you're going

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00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: to be that and then uh, time travel sixty years

644
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 1: into the future and see if it's worth something.

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00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely cool. And I I just think the

646
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 2: fan component is probably the coolest thing. I mean, yes,

647
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 2: it's great. The Buffalo Bills finally have a player on

648
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Speaker 2: the Madden Game. Never happened before, you know, and right now,

649
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 2: who else would it be but Josh. But the fact

650
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 2: that the fans were incorporated into the Deluxe edition as

651
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: the first time fans have ever been on the cover

652
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 2: of MAT and two, that's just pretty cool. Very that's

653
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 2: pretty cool. First time there's a Bill on there, and

654
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 2: right there with them is the Bills fans as well.

655
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 2: I mean that, come on, you can't get better than that.

656
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: That's the best. Yeah, it's really really needs dynamite.

657
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: So and I'm just wondering what the impetus, Like who

658
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 2: who pushed that? Do you know what I mean? Like,

659
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 2: who said, hey, let's let's put the fans on there too.

660
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: I'm really curious what part of the creative process stepped

661
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 2: in and said, hey, you know, why don't we do

662
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 2: this too, let's let's let's do something innovative here and

663
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 2: put a fan base on there as well.

664
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I told you I I had some dealings with

665
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 1: the A Sports in the in years past, and and

666
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 1: it is is a really creative group and they they

667
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: have a lot of input into a lot of creative

668
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: input and meetings and voices in the room coming up

669
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: with stuff like this, and it's they do have a

670
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: lot of football people in the building as well, but

671
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: they also have a lot of creative and digitally you know,

672
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: digital PhD kind of guys, you know, but they all

673
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: have a voice and they come up with you know,

674
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: outlandish ideas, the wild ideas, you know, and they kind

675
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: of they have all this stuff bouncing around and they

676
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: come up with this stuff. So you can imagine there

677
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: probably was a really nice, a really nice meeting where

678
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: they're saying, you know, you know Bill's and it's Bill's Mafia,

679
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: and it's that kind of vibe down there. If we're

680
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: gonna put them on, let's let's give them a chance. Right.

681
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: So it's I love it, It really strikes a chord

682
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: with Bills fans, I think.

683
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 2: And I know Josh was very happy about it. He

684
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 2: talked to the Buffalo News about it, and he said, quote,

685
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 2: it definitely feels like some validation for Western New York

686
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 2: and Bill's Mafia as a whole. I'm just happy that

687
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 2: they're kind of getting the recognition. So Josh was all

688
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 2: too happy to share the mat and cover with them.

689
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

690
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 2: So just it's just a cool dal all the way around.

691
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: And Josh, you know, we all know Josh is really

692
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: self aware and he's there's no pretense about him. He said, Man,

693
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: he didn't pull a punni. This is a lifelong dreen

694
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: kidding me. Yeah, being on the cover of Madden.

695
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 2: Well he played the game as a kid. Why how

696
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: couldn't it be that's got to be pretty cool all

697
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 2: of a sudden, you're on the cover of the dang thing.

698
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: It's gotta be lost nuts. That's cool absolutely for him.

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00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 2: Uh eight o three oh five fifty one eight eight

700
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 2: eighty five fifty two five fifty number to get on

701
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 2: the board open lines for you were just asking you

702
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 2: what was your reaction when you saw that Josh Allen

703
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,959
Speaker 2: was going to be on the cover of Madden twenty four.

704
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 2: First time ever a Bill's player has been on there.

705
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 2: You let us know what you think. Eight O three

706
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: oh five point fifty the number to get on board.

707
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: Let's spin over to the tweet sheet to see what

708
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 2: people are saying there. And tweet sheet, as always, is

709
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 2: brought to you by Corgan Moving Systems, the official equipment

710
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 2: moving company of the Buffalo Bills. Jay t says elated

711
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 2: the NFL keeps snubbing him on MVP every year, so

712
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 2: it's only right to at least give him the Madden cover.

713
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 2: He's a once in a generation type of player. He's

714
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: a running back and a quarterback with a rocket arm.

715
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 2: Josh Allen is an alien, a beast, and a Buffalo

716
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:08,479
Speaker 2: icon for years to come. Go Bills. Somebody's excited. There's

717
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:13,479
Speaker 2: a lot of all caps in there. Just seriously, I think,

718
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 2: I genuinely think fans are pumped about it.

719
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, it used to be and we've all heard it,

720
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: but used to be, oh my gosh, you know, our

721
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: guy's gonna have an injury. It used to be the

722
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: Madden curse. Now that's kind of been blown out of

723
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: the water.

724
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 2: Well, Patrick Mahomes won the MVP the year he was

725
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 2: on the cover.

726
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: So that's kind of like that's not a thing anymore.

727
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:37,959
Speaker 1: Uh So that's kind of cool, but it's particularly I mean,

728
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: John Madden was was the dude. I mean, he was

729
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: quite the guy. Uh well, he was an Ambassador's an

730
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: ambassador for the game. A very intelligent, sharp guy. He

731
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: and a lot of people don't know this, although it

732
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: came out in the months that subsequently after he passed.

733
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: He transformed the era that we're in, the broadcast era

734
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: for the league. He's the guy that invented the illustrator.

735
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: You can draw as an analyst, you can draw a

736
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: circle to draw the viewer's eyes to what you're trying

737
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: to talk about. He was innovative in the kind of

738
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Speaker 1: replays that they did, the kind of preparation broadcasters did.

739
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: He's the innovator of production meetings with head coaches. They'd

740
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 1: come in and now you get a chance to sit

741
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: down with these guys and get a little insight. He

742
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: really innovated that sport. So his game it was the same.

743
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 1: Remember when he's got his own I mean, the guy

744
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 1: was the guy had to make a literally two mountains

745
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: of cash in his lifetime. Because he was so innovative,

746
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: and you know, this game is just one facet of that,

747
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: and it's and the game is huge. I mean they

748
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: got esports. I mean they got sports turn like cash tournaments,

749
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: leagues of esports.

750
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 2: I see what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, I mean this

751
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 2: that it started from study the colleges that have majors

752
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 2: for gaming now, like gaming design and stuff like that.

753
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: It's nuts, dude. Yeah, So it's pretty cool to be

754
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 1: on the cover of that thing.

755
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 2: Let's go back to the phones into Steven Amherst here

756
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: before the break. What do you got for a Steve?

757
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 7: Hey, guys, good afternoon. Thank you for taking my call.

758
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 7: This is actually kind of cool because it's, you know,

759
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 7: one of those unexpected excitements you can get on a

760
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,919
Speaker 7: Wednesday afternoon in June. With Josh Allen being on the cover.

761
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 7: I think it's awesome. I do think that it was

762
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 7: a great move by EA, because I've been seeing all

763
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 7: over Twitter that there's like even Bills fans who don't

764
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 7: play Madden are saying, I'm definitely buying the game so

765
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 7: I can have the case, which is pretty cool. And

766
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 7: I think it's just an awesome thing, you know, Obviously

767
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 7: I've been playing Madden. Obviously you guys wouldn't know this,

768
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 7: but I've been playing Madden since probably the early late

769
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 7: nineties and always thought, you know, it would be great

770
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 7: to have a Bills player on the cover. And then

771
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 7: we get to this and it's Josh Allen. It's his

772
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 7: childhood dream. The fans are in there as well, which

773
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 7: just is so significant to Buffalo because the fans are

774
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 7: what they are, and I think it was just a

775
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 7: phenomenal move. And I mean, again, this is just exciting

776
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 7: Wednesday afternoon in June that that was totally unexpected. And

777
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 7: last thing, I think last year Josh Allen might have

778
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 7: been the running favorite to be on the cover until

779
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 7: John Madden passed away because of the thirteen second game.

780
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 7: I wouldn't have been surprised if they put him on

781
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 7: last year, but it makes this year all that more

782
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 7: sweeter to see him on there, and it's well deserved.

783
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 7: And again, love the show, guys, So keep doing what

784
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 7: you're doing and we'll catch up closer to the season.

785
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 2: Thanks Steve, good call. There we are up against the break,

786
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 2: but we will talk about this more because I think

787
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 2: there is a genuine there's a genuine population of this

788
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 2: Bill's fan base that is going to buy this thing

789
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 2: solely for a collector's item in their own memorabilia case.

790
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 2: And it's never going to see the light of day

791
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,479
Speaker 2: as far as playing it. We'll talk about that more

792
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 2: when we come back here on One Bill's Live, presented

793
00:42:52,920 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 2: by co Lout of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right,

794
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 2: here we are on One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve

795
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 2: Tasker with you talking about your reaction when you found

796
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 2: out Josh Allen was going to be on the cover

797
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 2: of the Madden twenty four game along with Bill's Mafia.

798
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 2: A pretty cool deal. First Bill's player ever on the

799
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: cover and the first time Bill's fans or any fans

800
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 2: for any NFL fan base has been a part of

801
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 2: the cover as well. So you let us know at

802
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 2: eight O three zero five fifty one eight eight eight

803
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 2: five fifty two five fifty number to get on board,

804
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 2: we go to David and Niagara Falls. Next, what do

805
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: you got for us, David Ques It.

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00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 10: Is not just one, but the first one was is

807
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 10: that cover really Buffalo Bill's fans or is that just actors?

808
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 10: And the second question has to do with Ed Oliver

809
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 10: his bonus. I mean, I don't really know exactly how

810
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 10: that works. Were that bonus money? Is that coming out

811
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 10: of Google's pocket? And how is that money pushed down

812
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 10: the road?

813
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 5: And how you know?

814
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 10: And how is how does that all work up?

815
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: Okay, if you get a bonus in the NFL in

816
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: your contract, say it's a say you sign a five

817
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: year contract. Okay, if you get a twenty million or

818
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: if you get a five million dollar signing bonus, the

819
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: cap the signing bonus is divided into the five years

820
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: of that contract. So a million dollars of that five

821
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Speaker 1: million is counted against your cap for this year, next year,

822
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Speaker 1: the next year, the next year, in the next year.

823
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 2: It's advertised. Yeah, over the life of the deal.

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00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: That's that's how the cap works. So you're sub Now,

825
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: if the guy is gone in three years, then whatever's

826
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: left on the years of that the last three years

827
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 1: of that signing boss go all on that.

828
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Speaker 2: Year that he accelerates into the year in which.

829
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: It all gets dumped into that first year. So if

830
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: you know that kind of thing, So that's how it works.

831
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: And that's and yes, the money comes right out of

832
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:02,760
Speaker 1: a Google's pocket. So there you go that he calls

833
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: up the cash to do it.

834
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Speaker 2: The only bonus that goes directly into the player's pocket

835
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 2: is the signing bonus. As soon as he signs the contract,

836
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 2: they write him a check for that amount. Other bonuses

837
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 2: in subsequent years are honored in those years. So if

838
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,959
Speaker 2: he's got let's say a roster bonus for twenty twenty four,

839
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 2: the day he's named to the fifty three man roster, bang,

840
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 2: that check is signed and that money goes right into

841
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 2: his bank account. So there are other bonuses that come later,

842
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 2: but the signing bonus, the check gets written out to

843
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 2: him as soon as he signs the contract.

844
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Speaker 1: I got one of those one time, and it is.

845
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Speaker 2: Unbelievable. I believe it is. I wouldn't be shocked to

846
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 2: sign that.

847
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: Is like, it's better than that first you know, when

848
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: you get your first pay check as a kid and

849
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: you take it to the bank to cash and they

850
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: say you gotta endorse it. You sign that check and

851
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: they get it. It's kind of like that, except big,

852
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: except a million times. Except it's yeah, so that's cool.

853
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: The fans on this on the I'm sure that that

854
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: is not a real picture. Otherwise we would have already

855
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 1: seen it, so it probably was a staged picture or

856
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: a graphically made up picture. Yeah, I don't I don't

857
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: think it was a real picture that they staged and made.

858
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: I think it's a graphic design.

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00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 2: Be my guest too. I mean they may have had

860
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 2: real people, but I think the photo was fabricated together.

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00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: I don't even know that it is a photo. Yeah,

862
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: I can't even speak to that. They can. They can

863
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: make it look.

864
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 2: As real as they It looks very authentic.

865
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: It does look authentic, but I would guess they probably

866
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: put faces that they chose in there. And the people

867
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 1: who you see with a full facial expression that aren't

868
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: in profile or whatever, that you can't really tell who

869
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: they are. But if you can, if there's a full frontal,

870
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: those people are probably actors or model that were used

871
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: and made up.

872
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I would guess Josh posed for that. Yes,

873
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 2: then they fit everything in around him. That is totally

874
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 2: that's a totally made up picture. I mean, that's been

875
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 2: altered so many times. You can't Yeah, I couldn't imagine.

876
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 2: That's probably a conglomeration of a lot of photos. Right.

877
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 2: Let's go back to the phones and to John and Buffalo. Next,

878
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 2: what do you got first? John?

879
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 9: Hey, Hi Fellows, thanks a lot for the opportunity.

880
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 2: Sure.

881
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 5: Yeah.

882
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 9: When you were talking before about Stevenson, about.

883
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 11: Him possibly carrying three hundred times, I was reminded of

884
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 11: Thermon and what a great player he was.

885
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 9: And I looked up his stats and I saw for

886
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:44,479
Speaker 9: his eight peak years from eighty nine to ninety six,

887
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 9: he averaged three hundred carries a year and he got

888
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 9: over ten thousand yards. But even more important, when I

889
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 9: was going over his stats, I saw where he averaged

890
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 9: forty seven receptions a year, which is just phenomenal. And

891
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 9: I was wondering, and Step in particular, if I'm not mistaken,

892
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 9: didn't march bro To sometimes split him out as a

893
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 9: receiver when he would have his form his formations? And

894
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 9: can you see could you.

895
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 11: See Dorsey using Thurmon uh or Cook? Certainly not the

896
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 11: number of carries. I don't think anybody will ever be

897
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 11: able to match Sermon on that, but uh, can you

898
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 11: envision using him more as a receiver as was the

899
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 11: case with Sermon, particularly uh splitting him out on occasion.

900
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 11: But I'll hang up and I'll listen to your remarks.

901
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 1: See, thank you, Thanks John, appreciate it. Yeah, Yeah, was

902
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: a workhorse. I've gone back shortly after I retired and

903
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: was like on a treadmill or whatever. I'd put in

904
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 1: old videot vhs tapes of games and kind of passed

905
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: the time watching him. I forgot what a workhorse Thurman was.

906
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,479
Speaker 1: And he took a pounding And you're right, three hundred

907
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 1: plus touches a year and fifty of those or forty

908
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: six of them being receptions. He was a workhorse. And

909
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 1: I'll say this about him, just as on a personal note,

910
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: Thurm didn't take days off. The guy practiced and he

911
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: was out there. They would tell him, you're not taking

912
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: any reps today, but he was out there ready to go.

913
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: Just a tremendous player, an enormous warrior, leader on the team,

914
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,439
Speaker 1: just a tremendous guy. And for you know, and there'll

915
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: only be one Therm. So whatever, however good James Cook's

916
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: going to be. We hope James Cook is the best

917
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: version of James Cook. But I would say there's a

918
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: chance in today's NFL that James Cook has even more

919
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: of an impact on the in the passing game than

920
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: Thurman was able to. Yes, Teddy used Thurman in a

921
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: lot of different ways. And they didn't, and Marv said it,

922
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: they didn't know Thurman was as good as receiver as

923
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: he wasn't until they drafted him. They drafted him because

924
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: the guy could carry the rock. Then he gets in

925
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: here and he can catch, he can run routes, he

926
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: gets open, gets set operation, makes cuts and I mean,

927
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: you know, he's a really good route runner. So yeah,

928
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: Teddy would in games, they'd stretch him out, you know,

929
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: split him out, and when they got a good matchups.

930
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: But in this day and age, there's every reason to

931
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 1: believe that if that, James Cook would be used even

932
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: more so in the passing game as a running back

933
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: or labeled as a running back than they were did

934
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:25,439
Speaker 1: it Thurman back in the day.

935
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 2: And I would anticipate seeing that only because we saw

936
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 2: Brian Dable and Ken Dorsey split Devin Singletary out to

937
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 2: the point where he be outside the numbers. The design

938
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 2: of that is because in most cases a running back

939
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 2: is covered by a linebacker, and they want to pull

940
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 2: a linebacker out of the middle of the field, Well,

941
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: the best way to do that is to line a

942
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 2: running back up outside the numbers. And I've seen enough

943
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 2: of James Cook college games to know that James Cook

944
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 2: was lined up outside the numbers there as a wide receiver,

945
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 2: so he's more than capable of doing it. So yeah,

946
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 2: I to anticipate seeing that. We have to take a

947
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,760
Speaker 2: break here, but our number two is your phone calls.

948
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 2: So Tom on the west side will lead us off

949
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 2: in our number two. But we're asking you what was

950
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 2: your reaction when you saw that Josh Allen was gonna

951
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 2: be the cover athlete of Madden twenty four eighth, three,

952
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,919
Speaker 2: five fifty To get on board for our number two.

953
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 2: Here on One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health, It's

954
00:51:21,320 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio.

955
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Lives presented by Calllighta Health.

956
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 2: Our number two here on a Wednesday, Chris Brown, Steve

957
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 2: Tasker One Bill's Live, and there is a little bit

958
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 2: of NFL news concerning DeAndre Hopkins. NFL Networks Tom Pellisero

959
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 2: is reporting that the free agent receiver is slated to

960
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 2: fly to Nashville on Sunday for a visit with the

961
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans, and as Pellisero points out, DeAndre Hopkins and

962
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 2: Titan said coach Mike Vrabel were together in Houston when

963
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 2: Rabel was on the Texans coaching staff. So Rabel's team

964
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 2: will get the first visit with Hopkins, who said he

965
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 2: was going to survey all options and probably take his

966
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 2: time and make some visits here. First one will be

967
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 2: in Tennessee. So we'll see how that goes over the

968
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 2: weekend and if anything comes of it. But just thought

969
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 2: we should make that aware, make you aware that. But

970
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 2: let's go back to the phones where we are talking

971
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 2: about Josh Allen gracing the cover of the Madden twenty

972
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 2: four game and your reaction when you found out about

973
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 2: the news. When you go back to the phones and

974
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 2: to Tom on the west side, what do you got first? Tom?

975
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 5: Hey, guys, just to follow up on what you just

976
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 5: said the update, I'm glad we're not playing Tennessee this

977
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 5: year unless we meet them in the playoffs. Yeah, but anyway,

978
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 5: at first I was elated, but that I immediately thought

979
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 5: about the Madden curse and I don't know if it's

980
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 5: a real thing or not, And if it is, I

981
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,760
Speaker 5: hope it's gone now that Madden has passed. But here's

982
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,439
Speaker 5: why I think those people got cursed is they saw

983
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 5: themselves on the cover and they got so high on

984
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 5: themselves that they overextented themselves, tried to outplay themselves that

985
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 5: year and make themselves even greater than they were already,

986
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,439
Speaker 5: which is why they made the cover. But I'm very

987
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 5: happy for Josh Allen because he's finally getting the recognition

988
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 5: that he deserves. Gold bells. Have a good day, gentlemen.

989
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 2: All right, thanks for the call, Tom, I appreciate it. Yeah.

990
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 2: I As we said earlier in the show, the Matt

991
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 2: and curse was pretty much debunked when Patrick Mahomes won

992
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 2: the MVP.

993
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 1: And then he went to this He also went to

994
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: the Sea. He's been on the cover a couple of

995
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: times in the last four years, and he's won the

996
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: Super Bowl one year and got the MVP the other. Yeah,

997
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: that that curse is pretty much debunked by now.

998
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I don't even think it's a concern. Maybe

999
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 2: prior to that, people might have been chewing their fingernails

1000
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 2: over it, but yeah, I just don't think it's a

1001
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 2: thing anymore. Let's go to Kevin in Rome next. What

1002
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 2: do you got for us? Kevin? You're all one Bill's Live.

1003
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 8: Bye, guys, love your show.

1004
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 2: Oh, thanks, appreciate first.

1005
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 8: Josh and the fans being on the cover man is

1006
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 8: absolutely well deserved and congratulations. I also have a way

1007
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 8: out the box idea about kickoffs.

1008
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 5: Now.

1009
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 8: I mentioned this to friends over the last few years

1010
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 8: and I get one of three responses, that's awesome, that's crazy,

1011
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 8: and the third is, hey, I have to ponder about it.

1012
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 8: And my idea is add a point for anybody that

1013
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 8: kicks it through the uprights on the kickoff. And here's

1014
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 8: where I'm thinking it could be interesting. Number One, it

1015
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 8: would contribute to saving some of the injuries. It would

1016
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 8: it would encourage people to go ahead and try to

1017
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:42,280
Speaker 8: kick it away from the runners. Two, it would add

1018
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 8: to the penalties because any penalty assessed on the kickoff

1019
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,760
Speaker 8: would be more beneficial to the team that got penalized against,

1020
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 8: and it'd be bigger penalty towards the team that was

1021
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 8: in frect in frect of the penalty because they'd be

1022
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 8: close or longer from the uh from the uprights. Third,

1023
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 8: the NFL is always looking for more points and more excitement.

1024
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 8: It could add to that. It could also add to

1025
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 8: the value of good kickers and the bottom line, and

1026
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 8: would add a lot of intrigue to the game. A

1027
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 8: little bit different from what we've had. Just your thoughts

1028
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 8: would be great.

1029
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks Kevin.

1030
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. It doesn't add an incentive for teams

1031
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: to kick it off and go deep try and put

1032
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 1: it out.

1033
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 2: It'll also that is a seventy five yard kick.

1034
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: By the way, you want to incentivize teams building domes,

1035
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,399
Speaker 1: that's a great way to do it, because you ain't

1036
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 1: gonna get that going one direction in this stadium and

1037
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: the other.

1038
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 2: Direction in certainly not after October.

1039
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 1: Right. It's uh, it would be an enormous advantage depending

1040
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: on when you what quarter you scored your points in.

1041
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 1: Could you get the extra you know you go for

1042
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: you think about it. It would make it mean a

1043
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: nine point play for an offense. You score six points

1044
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 1: for a touchdown, go for two, get it and then

1045
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: put the ball through the uprights.

1046
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 2: Or it could big. Or if you know you just

1047
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,720
Speaker 2: need eight to win and you believe in your kicker,

1048
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 2: that's still going for two. It would be a higher

1049
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 2: percentage play than a seventy five yard kick through the uprights.

1050
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 2: I would think, I'm not an.

1051
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: Analytics it depends on your kicker, and yeah it is,

1052
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: but that's a long way to go and to keep

1053
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: it between the up right.

1054
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 2: But you would have kicking it off a t so

1055
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 2: it's different.

1056
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: But you would have numbers on it. You would know

1057
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: what your kicker is and what he's feeling like, so

1058
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: and think about it. If you want to tie it,

1059
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: you don't. You can go for the win and still

1060
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: get the tie on the.

1061
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 2: Kickoff, right. But I think to his point, the thing

1062
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 2: I like the best and why I think it would

1063
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 2: be appealing to the league is it's a play that

1064
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 2: can score points and not really put anybody at risk

1065
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 2: if it's successful. Now, if it's not successful and it's short,

1066
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 2: I suppose the return team could return, but.

1067
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: You could fair catch it. Yeah, you could fair if

1068
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: he's trying to go for it it's just short and

1069
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: even let it go. But you could also still fair catch.

1070
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 2: So it could be deemed as a relatively safe play

1071
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 2: as well. Yeah, and a point.

1072
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: Scoring right too. He's right too, because it would I

1073
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: don't hate it. It would make a penalty on the

1074
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 1: preceding play on the you know, now they're kicking off,

1075
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: they've got a fifteen yard.

1076
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 2: Personal foul on the kicking from the fifteen you kick

1077
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 2: it from the fifteen. Ass like, I'll take a sixty upright,

1078
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 2: give me my point.

1079
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: And plus a running start off a tee. You got

1080
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: a chance there.

1081
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 2: Oh, you got a really good chance.

1082
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: So that's that's I like it. I got to tell

1083
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: him for it. I'm yeah, I'm Mike, I'm for it.

1084
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,959
Speaker 1: I'm for it as well. It's I think it's very intriguing. Yeah,

1085
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: really intriguing.

1086
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 2: Send a letter to uh Park Avenue, NFL offices.

1087
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: See what they said it would. And here's the thing.

1088
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 1: We talk a lot about how it do values certain positions. Well,

1089
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: this one would make it more valuable to have a kicker.

1090
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: And in fact, think about it, there's some if you

1091
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: get like a roster for a week here, a week there,

1092
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: there would be you could have a gunslinger kicker come

1093
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: in who's got a big leg. Even if your normal

1094
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: field goal kicker is more accurate, at least you got

1095
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: a guy that can get it there. Yeah, and plus

1096
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 1: there's no rush on a kickoff. He can take a

1097
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 1: running start and let it, let it go. You could

1098
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: have a luxury spot on your roster for a guy

1099
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: who kicks off through the uprights on certain weeks or whatever.

1100
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 2: Bill's had one of those back in the day. Cole

1101
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 2: Ford remember him.

1102
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: He was a kickoff Brad deel Wiso was one for us.

1103
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 1: He was a kickoff only guy for us. And it

1104
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 1: was Scott Norwood the field goals and bat Brad del Wiso.

1105
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 2: Crazy kicked off been done before. We'll see, but I

1106
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,919
Speaker 2: like that idea. Thanks for the call. We go from

1107
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 2: one mic to another to Michael and Cheek de Waga.

1108
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 2: What do you got for us? Michael, you're on one

1109
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 2: Bill's Live.

1110
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 12: Hi, guys, I just wanted to talk about Josh Allen

1111
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 12: being on the cover again. Yeah, No, it's it's it's awesome,

1112
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 12: not just as like people who love video games, but

1113
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 12: from a collector's standpoint. I mean, I'm part of the

1114
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 12: David Adams community that a group of collectors over there

1115
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 12: just wonderful locally here in Buffalo, and we have people

1116
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 12: from England that are excited in the chat about Bill's

1117
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 12: Mafia being on the cover and Josh being on the cover.

1118
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 12: So it's a globally transcending thing and it's just really exciting.

1119
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 7: To watch and see.

1120
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 12: And I don't think there's anybody better than Josh to

1121
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 12: get that opportunity. He's worked so hard for it and

1122
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 12: you know, done such a great job here in Buffalo.

1123
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that. We're seeing on MSG

1124
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 1: right now, we're showing some b roll from the EA

1125
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:41,439
Speaker 1: shoot where they were.

1126
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 2: They did have the real people in this, They did.

1127
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: Have people in the stands, but it was a set.

1128
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a stage shot.

1129
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 1: It's a stage shot.

1130
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 2: Those are real people and Josh posed with them.

1131
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so there you have it.

1132
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 2: That's really cool.

1133
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1134
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 1: You see other you know John Madden there, and there's

1135
01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: the twenty three where he was the the guy and

1136
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: he was the guy for a long time, so it was.

1137
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: And there's there's there's an actual live shot of the

1138
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: of the shoot.

1139
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 2: The cover photo. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Good job by

1140
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 2: our crack staff in the control.

1141
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 1: We got quite the control get their hands on everywhere

1142
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 1: to go guys. So there you go. We we had

1143
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 1: a guy ask whether it was a stage yes, and

1144
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: we just saw it being staged. So they put out

1145
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 1: a little pr short film about Josh going through all

1146
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 1: the the shoots, the photo shoots and the poses and

1147
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 1: all that stuff, and so there you have it. It's

1148
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 1: it's in the books.

1149
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 2: Eight oh three, five point fifty one eighty eight five

1150
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 2: fifty two five fifty. If you want to tell us

1151
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 2: what your reaction was when you found out Josh Allen

1152
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 2: was on the cover of Mad in twenty four. Kind

1153
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 2: of a cool deal. Open lines for you, Uh, if

1154
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 2: you're outside the calling area. One eighty eight five fifty

1155
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 2: two five fifty the number to get on board. Let's

1156
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 2: jump back to the tweet cheet though, Steven get more

1157
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 2: of the comments that are over there, and Carl says,

1158
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 2: well deserved. Now let's add a super Bowl so you

1159
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 2: can hold the Lombardi next time. So he's already looking

1160
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 2: for a repeat appearance on the Madden cover. I don't

1161
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 2: know if that's gonna happen, right, but yeah, well i'd

1162
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 2: take that.

1163
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 1: Give me some That's what we all signed up to do, right,

1164
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 1: get them a super Bowl and anything we can do

1165
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 1: to help it was if you're a fan, it Bill's fan.

1166
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: This is part of the part of the process there, right.

1167
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 2: This is how happy Amy was when she saw Madden

1168
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 2: or Madden, she saw Josh Allen on the Madden cover.

1169
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 2: She tweets at us Madden twenty four Bill's Mafia Edition,

1170
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 2: don't call it a the Deluxe Edition called the Bill's

1171
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 2: Mafia edition. I really think that's I mean, look, I'm

1172
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 2: as I'm as stoked about anybody else as anybody else

1173
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 2: that Josh is on the cover of this thing, but

1174
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 2: the fact that fans are on the cover of this

1175
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 2: thing for the first time ever. I mean, okay, on

1176
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 2: the Madden cover. You saw the fans that were in

1177
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 2: the background on the Super Bowls. But you know what

1178
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 2: it was, This is a defined fan base on the

1179
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 2: cover of the Madden game for the first time ever.

1180
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 2: That's reading.

1181
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 1: Read the next one on the tweet sheet too. Rick says, no, no, oh,

1182
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

1183
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 2: Brian says, I see Bill's Mafia on the cover, and

1184
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 2: Josh just happens to me. It's us, you guys, look, look,

1185
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 2: it's us and whoever that player is in the middle

1186
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 2: of the shot, whoever. That's great, It is awesome. Let's

1187
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 2: get back to the phones. Mark in Stockton joins us,

1188
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 2: what do you got for us?

1189
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 1: Mark?

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01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 14: Hi, I would just say it makes perfect sense that

1191
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 14: he's on the cover. I don't know how many games

1192
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 14: I've heard announcers say he's like a video game quarterback.

1193
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 14: There's nothing downfield. He Zi exacts down the field he gets.

1194
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 8: The first down.

1195
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you're right. People have yeah, called him a

1196
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 2: video game quarterback for sure. I know Tony Romo has

1197
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 2: done it about ten times and he's a former quarterback,

1198
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 2: so what does that say. Yeah, but yeah, you're right,

1199
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 2: he's a freakazoid. I mean you've even heard players on

1200
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 2: his own team. Leonard Floyd was talking about it the

1201
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 2: other day right after he signed. Yeah, he said, yeah,

1202
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 2: I'm really glad he's on my team now because playing

1203
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 2: against him wasn't any fun. That guy's a creet and

1204
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 2: Von calls him a creature. Yeah, you know, everybody's got

1205
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 2: a different you know, superlative forum.

1206
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the dude man. And and if now that,

1207
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 1: now that it has happened, you think, well it was

1208
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 1: a foregone conclusion at some point is going to happen.

1209
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 2: Not so not so much.

1210
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 1: You never know. Joe Burrow's gonna be on one at

1211
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: some point, right, hopefully not this year or next year. Right,

1212
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 1: next year's just you know, and all that stuff. You

1213
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 1: can name guys who are gonna be who could possibly

1214
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 1: have a chance to be on to the thing. And yeah,

1215
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 1: to have a guy here in Buffalo taking snaps at

1216
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 1: quarterback and being an absolute no brainer selection is pretty cool.

1217
01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, back to the phones we go and to Jim

1218
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 2: in Silver Creek. What do you got for his Jim?

1219
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 13: Hey, guys, how's it going good?

1220
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 5: Good?

1221
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 15: Hey?

1222
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 16: So, I don't necessarily disagree with Allen being on the cover.

1223
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 16: I you know, I enjoy seeing him on there.

1224
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 6: It's great.

1225
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 16: But uh, I kind of wanted to give you guys

1226
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 16: a different point of view and ask Steve a question

1227
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 16: about this in the sense of when is enough enough?

1228
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 16: In the sense like he's he's on the cover now

1229
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 16: getting global coverage, and he's having off the field issues

1230
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 16: or at least attention as far as you know, his

1231
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 16: social life. And then you know, he did the golf

1232
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 16: tournament last year, he's this year or too. There's a

1233
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 16: lot of off the field things going on. And I'm

1234
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 16: not trying to say he.

1235
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 6: Doesn't work hard.

1236
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 16: He's incredibly hard working. But you know, Steve, maybe from

1237
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 16: your point of view, when does enough become enough? And

1238
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 16: you know, when do you think maybe the scrutiny of

1239
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 16: you know, off the field distractions might come into play?

1240
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:53,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1241
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 1: I don't really worry about that with him. It certainly

1242
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 1: you see josh A Ton, and one of the reasons

1243
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 1: for that is this one. In my opinion, there's a

1244
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 1: couple of reasons. One is it's the day and age

1245
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 1: in which we live. If you want, you can find

1246
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 1: out about people like that anytime, anywhere, And it doesn't

1247
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 1: have to be Josh Allen. Certainly as a Bill as

1248
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 1: Bills fans, we kind of are, that's who we follow.

1249
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 1: In other sports, it's other people who pop up on

1250
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 1: their social calendar and pop up on their timelines more

1251
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 1: so than any other. So one we're able to find

1252
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 1: out about people like Josh easier in this day and age,

1253
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 1: and I think it for guys like me, it's particularly

1254
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 1: my age, I can see how it would be construed

1255
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 1: as like, you know, wow, this is a little too much.

1256
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 1: That's one thing. The other thing is the thing that

1257
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 1: sets people of that ilk aparts, movie stars, athletes, politicians,

1258
01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: what have you, is who they are per personally. And

1259
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 1: a lot of people out there who are of the

1260
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 1: level that Josh is. There's not that many, but you know,

1261
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 1: in whatever genre they happen to be famous in handle

1262
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 1: it better than others. So what you really need to

1263
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 1: do is just hope that you've got a guy or

1264
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 1: your celebrity that you follow is not one of those

1265
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 1: that's going to you know, crash and burn. Right. I

1266
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 1: have every reason to believe the guy that we follow,

1267
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 1: this Josh Allen guy has his head on his shoulders

1268
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 1: and it doesn't bother him. He is going to be

1269
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 1: who he is all the time. He's a genuine person.

1270
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 1: He is, he is not of the His motivation is

1271
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 1: not one about celebrity or notoriety or even the money.

1272
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 2: It's about winning.

1273
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 1: He wants to be the best he can be and

1274
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 1: that you and winning comes along with that.

1275
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 2: That's what he says to break down every huddle, he

1276
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 2: puts his hand right, one, two, three, win.

1277
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's I think you're right. In some cases

1278
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 1: we've seen I mean, how many people have we seen

1279
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 1: in sports and whatever sport you can name, NBA, Major

1280
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 1: League Baseball, NFL, you know, hockey, NHL. You've seen guys

1281
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 1: absolutely detonate in their personal life and it's just and

1282
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:25,680
Speaker 1: there's no saving them. That comes down to not so

1283
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 1: much how much scrutiny or whether it's enough or when

1284
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 1: it happens in his life. You know, it's not so

1285
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 1: much about wins. Enough enough is enough it's is that

1286
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 1: what drives that person and are they is it? Does

1287
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 1: it become about that rather than what they got famous for?

1288
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 1: And I don't think that is an issue with Josh.

1289
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 2: I don't either. I would really, you've said enough. I

1290
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 2: don't need to say anything else. I don't think it's

1291
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 2: an issue for him either. The guy is squarely focused

1292
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 2: on winning games. He even said in this interview for

1293
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 2: the Madden cover how desperate he is to bring a

1294
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 2: championship to Buffalo for the very fans he's on the

1295
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 2: cover with. Yeah, so I don't think you have to

1296
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 2: worry about that guy focus. And what has everybody said

1297
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 2: when he came back in the door of this spring,

1298
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:14,639
Speaker 2: they've noticed he's more focused than ever.

1299
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's.

1300
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 2: Probably going the right way more than your fearing it's

1301
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 2: going the wrong way.

1302
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're right, I mean there is that concern.

1303
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 1: I mean, because we've seen it too many times in

1304
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 1: our country, Right, You've seen rocks.

1305
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 2: I mean, there's not a concern with this.

1306
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've seen a bunch of twenty seven year old

1307
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 1: rock stars not make it to twenty eight. You know,

1308
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 1: you've seen movie stars and what have you? Everybody you

1309
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 1: know so it's a concern, but I think when you're talking,

1310
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:43,640
Speaker 1: it comes down to the individual you're talking about, and

1311
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 1: certainly you can make generalizations, but you also have to

1312
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:49,599
Speaker 1: realize that everybody handles it differently and has a different

1313
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 1: way of coping with it and puts it in a perspective.

1314
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 1: Each person puts it in perspective differently. So I'm but

1315
01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 1: this Josh is not just played any though of that.

1316
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 2: Sean is in Holland is next on the phones. What

1317
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 2: do you got for a Sean.

1318
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,720
Speaker 15: Anyway? Guys, I love Josh on the cover. I think

1319
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 15: it's well deserved. But what I'm calling about is the

1320
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 15: guy who was just talking about kickoff rule right about

1321
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:21,679
Speaker 15: four years ago. Baltimore pitched that at the owners meeting

1322
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 15: and they got shot down. They were the only one

1323
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 15: who voted yes on it because I think Tucker was.

1324
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 7: The only one who could actually do it.

1325
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that was the impetus for them. They

1326
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:31,679
Speaker 2: have the best kicker in a generation, so hey, why

1327
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:32,639
Speaker 2: not as easy way?

1328
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 15: And yeah, absolutely, they pitched it to see if they

1329
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 15: could get everybody to bite.

1330
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 6: On it, and not nobody did.

1331
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's why I think Sean and

1332
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 2: that's you bring up a good point. I think that's

1333
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 2: exactly the reason why it would find difficulty in passing,

1334
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 2: because I don't think more than half of the league

1335
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:53,719
Speaker 2: would have confidence that they have the kind of kicker

1336
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 2: that could make that play on a regular basis. But

1337
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 2: if you're somebody who's got Justin Tucker, you're like, let's

1338
01:10:59,040 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 2: do it.

1339
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 1: That's true, that's true. But nothing says that they have

1340
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 1: to kick off from the twenty five or from the

1341
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 1: thirty five either. They used to kick off from the

1342
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 1: forties back way back in the day. Yep, there's nothing

1343
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 1: that says they can't kick off from the from the

1344
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 1: forty eight. I mean, who cares. I mean, there's nothing

1345
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 1: that says they can't kick off from wherever they want.

1346
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 1: So if they put a fifty and they say so,

1347
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 1: it's the yarder.

1348
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 2: So it's almost as if that in your mind, if

1349
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 2: you're going to move the line, that team would have

1350
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 2: to declare to the officials, we're going for the one

1351
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 2: point through the upright, not necessary? Line it up at

1352
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 2: this line. Not necessarily, Oh, because I'm thinking, well, you're

1353
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 2: taking a regular kickoff thirty five. Well, no, if you're

1354
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 2: going for the point. You don't have to necessarily do

1355
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 2: any of that. You can just now you're changing where

1356
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:50,640
Speaker 2: the kickoffs being spotted. That's right, Okay, that's right. I

1357
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 2: mean I know it's been done before, but you can

1358
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 2: do solely for that rule change.

1359
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,759
Speaker 1: Yes, solely for the rule change. Plus it takes returning

1360
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:00,600
Speaker 1: kicks kind of off the table because everybody's got a

1361
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 1: guy that can really maybe make it from sixty with

1362
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:04,480
Speaker 1: a running start.

1363
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 2: Right, But I don't think they want to make it

1364
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 2: an easy play. I think they will.

1365
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 1: Let's doesn't make it easy. I think they want to Well,

1366
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 1: it's just it though. They could move it to the

1367
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 1: forty five. Then now it's now it's you know, they

1368
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,599
Speaker 1: can tinker with the percentages all they want, so they

1369
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 1: can put it up to the forty five and so

1370
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 1: that more teams have the ability to make it happen. Plus,

1371
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 1: you got your kickoff guy, but then you also got

1372
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 1: this guy who used to kick or he's six '

1373
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 1: eight and he's a straight on kicker.

1374
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 2: I'm just picturing a six eight kicker, that's why.

1375
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 1: And he can run you put you give him the

1376
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 1: square toe shoe, he goes up and boom, gets it

1377
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 1: on the kickoffs, he takes a shot at it every

1378
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:43,679
Speaker 1: time you could. You doesn't have to be your regular kicker,

1379
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:47,599
Speaker 1: so it's a possibility they could do that. Plus, if

1380
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:52,599
Speaker 1: if he misses it or mishits it, then you can

1381
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 1: you can either penalize the kicking team, say listen if

1382
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 1: you if it doesn't go through and it doesn't go

1383
01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 1: out of the end zone and they return it, they

1384
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:00,639
Speaker 1: automatically get it to the thirty.

1385
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, or treat it like a kick out of bounce.

1386
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 1: Or treat it like a kick out of bounce.

1387
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:04,560
Speaker 12: Get it.

1388
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 1: So you could tinker with that all you want, make

1389
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 1: it plus or minded if the kicking team goes for

1390
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 1: it and they get it, you know.

1391
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:13,720
Speaker 2: Or you could do it for only the last five

1392
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:15,760
Speaker 2: minutes of regulation that you could even go for that

1393
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:17,679
Speaker 2: kind of a point. You know you're down in a game,

1394
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 2: and right you know you're willing to take it.

1395
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 1: If they're kicking off from the fifty everything's out through

1396
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 1: the end zone anyway.

1397
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 15: Uh.

1398
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 1: But if you tinker with it and you give if

1399
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:31,640
Speaker 1: you incentivize anything for teams, they'll take that incentive and

1400
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,680
Speaker 1: exploit it. So if you incentivize them going for that

1401
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:38,799
Speaker 1: one point, look at Mike. Or if you incentivize sparking,

1402
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 1: or if you incentivize trying to return a kick of

1403
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 1: that nature out of the end zone in any way,

1404
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 1: shape or form, you on a slice, you can certain

1405
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 1: the rules are blank when you come up with a new,

1406
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 1: you know, new thing like this, so you can tailor

1407
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 1: it any way you want. That's was kind of the

1408
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 1: fun thing when I went to that kickoff summit. Yeah,

1409
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 1: they kind of they kind of wiped it the board

1410
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 1: clean and started from scratch, and the Special teams guys

1411
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 1: came up with what we have now is the kickoff

1412
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:09,600
Speaker 1: and it's you know, it was very It's been effective

1413
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 1: to a large degree, but not enough. It's still on

1414
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 1: the kicks that are actually returned, there's two higher percentage

1415
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 1: where somebody walks off dinged.

1416
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:21,760
Speaker 2: And that's why we see the rule that's in for

1417
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 2: at least this year where kickoffs can be fair caught

1418
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 2: outside the end zone and the team would get it

1419
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 2: at the twenty five right as well. What changes that

1420
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 2: will spark from a strategic standpoint will be I'm really

1421
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 2: interested to see how the special teams coordinators handle it.

1422
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 2: I'm like totally intrigued with what the approach is, or

1423
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 2: if somebody finds a really good work around that, then

1424
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 2: everybody else adopts, and then by mid season, everybody's doing

1425
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:51,879
Speaker 2: it this way exactly. I love that stuff.

1426
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 1: I do too. And people guys sit down and study,

1427
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 1: They get all the film and they look through all

1428
01:14:58,080 --> 01:14:59,639
Speaker 1: of it, and they say, what about this? What happens

1429
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 1: when this happens? What happens if we coach this? What happened?

1430
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:04,599
Speaker 2: All of that stuff is It's a necessity? Is the

1431
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 2: mother of invention type thing? That's right, that's always fun

1432
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 2: to watch.

1433
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 1: Form follows function.

1434
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 2: We have to take a break here. William and Fresno,

1435
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 2: though will lead us off as we're taking more of

1436
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 2: your phone calls. When we come back with Josh Allen

1437
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 2: on the cover of Madden, what was your reaction? Tell

1438
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 2: us at eight oh three oh five point fifty back

1439
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 2: in a few here on One Bill's Live, presented by

1440
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 2: Collide Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right back here

1441
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown see task it with

1442
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 2: you on a Wednesday, and right back to the phone

1443
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 2: where we were asking you, what was your reaction when

1444
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:45,839
Speaker 2: you found out Josh Allen would be the cover athlete

1445
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 2: for Madden twenty four to William all the way out

1446
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 2: in Fresno. What do you got for us? William?

1447
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 6: Hey, we're celebrating too, you know, we get we get

1448
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 6: kind of excited about him doing stuff does He's a

1449
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 6: first in our area, even our valley, to get this accomplishment.

1450
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:06,720
Speaker 6: And yet, of course my first reaction was because I'm

1451
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:10,600
Speaker 6: a Madden enthusiast too, But my first reaction was, oh, no,

1452
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 6: the curse, you know, But again, what are you gonna do?

1453
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1454
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 6: And then you have a personality like his, like you

1455
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 6: guys were already touching on, but you already probably know

1456
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 6: he just doesn't care like about all that stuff. All

1457
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 6: he cares about is pure heart football, wants to win once,

1458
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 6: to do the best he can, doesn't hold grudges, gives

1459
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 6: people grace, and he just does it with an a

1460
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:36,560
Speaker 6: crazy enthusiasm. And you guys have a like an anomaly

1461
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:40,640
Speaker 6: type individual who doesn't come around ever again, you know,

1462
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 6: And so enjoy the.

1463
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 5: Riot already because man, you.

1464
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 6: Know, and I know both families, you know, his other

1465
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:52,560
Speaker 6: lady there and them, and this is any other relationship. Truthfully,

1466
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:56,600
Speaker 6: there was grace in it and both sides and I

1467
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 6: don't think it's like going to have any ill effect

1468
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 6: of anything might help them, because you know how that goes.

1469
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 6: But it's just a it's just a amazing time. This

1470
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 6: is for you guys, especially, you know, to see him

1471
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 6: every week. I'm then be around him.

1472
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 5: He's something, and.

1473
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 6: It's it's he may not win a super Bowl, but

1474
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 6: he's still something. He's still crazy amazing, you know. But

1475
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 6: he could They could get him some running help too, right,

1476
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 6: I mean, otherwise he'll do it all.

1477
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 2: He'll try, all right, William, thanks for the phone call.

1478
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 2: I think they did get him some running help, you know,

1479
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 2: in the form of Damien Harris. I expect a bigger

1480
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 2: year out of James Cooks. Murray is here too, so

1481
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 2: they brought in the beef to help that running game,

1482
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 2: so hopefully Josh doesn't have to do as much of it.

1483
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, it's funny because some people initially

1484
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 2: think of the Madden curse because that was a big

1485
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:56,480
Speaker 2: thing for a long time. Yeah, and it still resonates

1486
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:58,320
Speaker 2: even now that I think the thing has been put

1487
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 2: to Bet you know, was winning the MVP the year

1488
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 2: he was on the cover. So I mean, to me,

1489
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 2: it's not a thing, right, But it's funny that it

1490
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 2: still resonates with some people, right, Yeah, And don't worry,

1491
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 2: we're soaking it all up here. And believe me, it's

1492
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:18,639
Speaker 2: it is an honor.

1493
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 1: It's kind of a cool thing, particularly in this day

1494
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 1: and age. I don't know, it's I don't know what

1495
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:27,559
Speaker 1: you could have drawn analogy like what it's like. It's

1496
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:29,639
Speaker 1: not like winning an award, really, you know what I mean,

1497
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 1: it's not, but it is kind.

1498
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:33,720
Speaker 2: Of cool sort of pop culture I think is I

1499
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 2: think that's the best way to put it.

1500
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like winning an oscar kind of thing.

1501
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 2: You know.

1502
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, now, and now I gotta go see

1503
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 1: that movie, and now I gotta go watch this guy

1504
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 1: play or I gotta go play this game with his

1505
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 1: guy on it, you know that kind of thing. So

1506
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:52,679
Speaker 1: it's a weird phenomenon that that's only in the last

1507
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:56,799
Speaker 1: you know, twenty years of my life has it become

1508
01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 1: this thing.

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01:18:57,880 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 13: You know.

1510
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 1: So it's it's interesting. It's an interesting phenomenon, and it

1511
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 1: is cool.

1512
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 2: It is cool, definitely cool. Let's go to more of

1513
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:08,680
Speaker 2: the comments on the tweet sheet to see what you

1514
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:11,600
Speaker 2: have to say there. Rick says, I haven't played a

1515
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 2: Madden game in years and haven't purchased the physical copy

1516
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 2: of a game in forever, but will definitely buy this one.

1517
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:23,800
Speaker 2: Love that deluxe edition cover that's the one with the

1518
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:28,960
Speaker 2: fans on it. Scott says, PGA merged with Live, the

1519
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:31,720
Speaker 2: Sky is Yellow and the Sun is Red, a new

1520
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 2: one point five billion dollar stadium. Next, you're gonna tell

1521
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 2: me that the Bill's quarterback is on the cover of

1522
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:42,759
Speaker 2: Madden and everybody's talking about who he's dating. Go Bills, Clever,

1523
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 2: Scott Clever. I'll give that to you. Andrea says she's proud.

1524
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 2: Never thought I'd see the day our Buffalo Bills were

1525
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 2: acknowledged as one of the best. That is kind of

1526
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 2: what it means when you're on the cover. You're you're

1527
01:19:55,400 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 2: a premier entity in the NFL, right Like, yes, it's

1528
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:01,680
Speaker 2: a status.

1529
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 1: Thing, no question about it. You are not just you know,

1530
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:07,559
Speaker 1: he's been the face of the franchise is twenty eighteen,

1531
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:10,720
Speaker 1: but now he is you got to consider him a

1532
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 1: kind of face of the NFL, you know, one of

1533
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 1: the current I mean, I'm if you're saying it like that,

1534
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 1: the current state of the NFL. He maybe is on

1535
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:21,679
Speaker 1: the mount rushmore of the four guys in the league, right,

1536
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:25,600
Speaker 1: mahomes Josh Allen, what Burrow? And if you're name it

1537
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:30,599
Speaker 1: somebody who's not a quarterback, who's it Aaron Donald?

1538
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:31,679
Speaker 2: Maybe or maybe?

1539
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:32,599
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1540
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:35,640
Speaker 2: So it's tough, just and it changes.

1541
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 1: Year to year over year, but yeah, that it is

1542
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:45,720
Speaker 1: a very clear signal as to your prominence, not just

1543
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 1: with your team, but in the league itself.

1544
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 2: David on the tweets, she says about flipping time, I

1545
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 2: pre ordered it already. I love the fact Bill's Mafia

1546
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 2: are represented. I'm ready to win the Super Bowl with

1547
01:20:57,360 --> 01:20:59,759
Speaker 2: my beloved Bills, as I do every year since Maden

1548
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:02,559
Speaker 2: came out. Josh said the same thing. He said, he's

1549
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:05,720
Speaker 2: only going to play as himself and the Bills in

1550
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:08,559
Speaker 2: this edition of the game, which was kind of cool.

1551
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:09,519
Speaker 1: That's kind of what else.

1552
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 2: I mean, you're in the game. Why would you be

1553
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:13,679
Speaker 2: anybody else but yourself?

1554
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 7: Right?

1555
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:20,439
Speaker 1: And also so say, for instance, Josh hanging out of

1556
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 1: his house with Dawson Knox, Gabe Davis and the crew

1557
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 1: and they want to sit down and play who gets

1558
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:26,639
Speaker 1: to be the Bills?

1559
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 2: Well, he gets first pick. I mean, he's on the

1560
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 2: damn cover.

1561
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:37,639
Speaker 1: I think, come on, the guy's on the covers for it, right,

1562
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:40,240
Speaker 1: Oh you want to flip for it? Okay, something you

1563
01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 1: can't be. You can't be us all the time. Come on,

1564
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 1: let me be you know all right? That's kind of funny.

1565
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 2: I wonder what those conversations would be like because a

1566
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 2: lot of the guys play. I mean, they're all from

1567
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 2: this gaming generation.

1568
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, I want Josh to have a ninety nine

1569
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:56,879
Speaker 1: rating though, that's what I really want.

1570
01:21:57,160 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that comes out soon too, right, they start

1571
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:01,879
Speaker 2: revealing the great.

1572
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:03,760
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh.

1573
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:05,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's like what one or two guys in.

1574
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:06,599
Speaker 3: The league that I remember.

1575
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 2: I can't remember for his last year or the year before.

1576
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 2: Poor Reed Ferguson. No love for the long snapper. I

1577
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 2: gotta listen as a tight end. You even have his position, right,

1578
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 2: It's like, come on, man, give us some love for

1579
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 2: the long snapper. Honest to god, we're talking about the

1580
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 2: NFL here. You know. It's not some high school team.

1581
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:31,799
Speaker 2: Gotta be better than that. Gotta be just a little research.

1582
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 1: Come on, she's a program.

1583
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:37,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Just go to the team website.

1584
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 2: It's right there for you. Sean on the tweets, Sheet says,

1585
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 2: I also want Josh to compare to the two thousand

1586
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 2: and four version of Michael Vick. Vick was unstoppable in

1587
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 2: madd and O Force, so he's talking about in the

1588
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 2: game itself, not this season on the field.

1589
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:56,559
Speaker 1: I I was thinking, that's where you want to see him,

1590
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 1: being ninety nine.

1591
01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 2: I'm I'm more of the Bo Jackson techmobile variety genre

1592
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:06,439
Speaker 2: because I'm a little older, so I'm not I'm sure

1593
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:09,519
Speaker 2: Vic was unstoppable in the Mad Game at four because

1594
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 2: he was unstopped. That's the year I think he took

1595
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:15,559
Speaker 2: the Falcons to the NFC title game and he had

1596
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 2: a ridiculous year. He ran for over a thousand yards

1597
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:20,680
Speaker 2: and he was unstoppable. He was the Bo Jackson was

1598
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 2: unstoppable in the older games, right, I mean, he was

1599
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 2: a freakazoid on that game. He couldn't lose with him Jeremy.

1600
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 2: On the tweet, she says, I'm happy and sad. Happy

1601
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 2: because it's a cool honor to finally have a player

1602
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:36,720
Speaker 2: for my team on the cover, and sad because I

1603
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 2: don't play video games and now I'm gonna have to

1604
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:43,720
Speaker 2: spend eighty dollars for something I'll never use that's the

1605
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:45,719
Speaker 2: collectors thing. We're talking about those teams.

1606
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:48,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's also the collector's Phil's mafia thing. You

1607
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:51,679
Speaker 1: got it if if if your boys on the cover,

1608
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 1: you gotta have it.

1609
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just whether they use it or not use

1610
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:56,960
Speaker 2: it or not, it'll be worth more later if you

1611
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:57,519
Speaker 2: don't use.

1612
01:23:57,400 --> 01:24:00,680
Speaker 1: It, whether you yeah, but yeah, you ain't gonna send

1613
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:02,439
Speaker 1: You're not going to send your kids to college with

1614
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 1: the Josh Josh Mad Deluxe Edition of Okay.

1615
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:08,559
Speaker 2: But but it'll be worth more than twenty years if

1616
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 2: you don't pull it out of the box. So think

1617
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 2: of it that way. Uh. Carrie on the tweets sheet

1618
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 2: says emotional first Buffalo bill and first fan base on

1619
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:22,000
Speaker 2: the cover, I am gratefully shared his spotlight. He makes

1620
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:25,599
Speaker 2: us better and I sincerely hope we make him better too. Well.

1621
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 2: Isn't that nice, Carrie? About all about the symbiotic relationship there?

1622
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:31,599
Speaker 2: How about that that's warm fuzzy, that is Yeah, that's

1623
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:33,840
Speaker 2: all up in the fields there for sure. Back to

1624
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 2: the phones and to Jim in Orchard Park, What do

1625
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:37,480
Speaker 2: you got for us? Jim?

1626
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 13: Hi fellas listen And I was just curious how many

1627
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:44,680
Speaker 13: quarterbacks made the cover of uh Mad Football that did

1628
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 13: not win the Super Bowl. And I guess my question

1629
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:51,240
Speaker 13: would be, if Buffalo won the Super Bowl this year,

1630
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 13: you think we have a rep, they'd have a repeat

1631
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 13: and put Joshua in the cover for two years in

1632
01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 13: a row. I'll hang up and listen to your answer, Fellas.

1633
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all right. That's a lot to unpack there.

1634
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 2: I quickly googled the Madden covers by year, and I'm

1635
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 2: looking at him now, and so you got Madden in

1636
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 2: two thousand, Eddie George and O one, Dante Culpepper, Marshall

1637
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:17,600
Speaker 2: Falk won a Super Bowl, so he's on there, and

1638
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:23,559
Speaker 2: three Michael Vick Ray Lewis won two Super Bowls. Donovan

1639
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:27,599
Speaker 2: McNabb went to a Super Bowl, Shawn Alexander Vince Young,

1640
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 2: Brett Favre won a Super Bowl, Drew Brees won a

1641
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Troy Polamalo and Larry Fitzgerald Polamalu won a

1642
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Larry Fitzgerald went to one. Peyton Hillis, Calvin Johnson,

1643
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 2: Barry Sanders, Adrian Peterson was an MVP. Richard Sherman, Odell

1644
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 2: Beckham Junior won a Super Bowl. Rob Gronkowski won a

1645
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, Tom Brady won a Super Bowl, Antonio Brown

1646
01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 2: won a Super Bowl, Patrick Mahomes won a Super Bowl.

1647
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 2: Lamarj Action won an MVP, Patrick Mahomes and Tom Brady,

1648
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 2: John Madden and now Josh Allen. So there's a pretty

1649
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:08,639
Speaker 2: good run there. I'd say, what what did I name

1650
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 2: about six or seven super Bowl winners? So it does

1651
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 2: happen on from there?

1652
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 1: I mean farv and.

1653
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean maybe not in the year they were

1654
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:19,679
Speaker 2: on the.

1655
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 1: Cover, Drew Brees all that, Yeah, not in Drew Brees,

1656
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 1: almost none of them on the year that they actually

1657
01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:25,719
Speaker 1: were on the cover.

1658
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:28,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, Drew Brees won his Super Bowl in oh nine,

1659
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 2: and then he was on the cover in eleven. Right,

1660
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:36,480
Speaker 2: that's I think the closest, although Gronk in twenty seventeen,

1661
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:40,839
Speaker 2: that was the year they beat the Falcons. Right, So

1662
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 2: there you go.

1663
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 1: I'm twenty two was there's an MVP addition with Brady

1664
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:47,639
Speaker 1: and Mahomes on the cover.

1665
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:50,760
Speaker 2: Right, right, So there is a track record there, so

1666
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 2: you can dream, You're allowed to dream on that. We

1667
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:56,280
Speaker 2: have to take a break. We got one more segment left,

1668
01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:58,639
Speaker 2: some final thoughts on the tweet sheet. When we return

1669
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:00,639
Speaker 2: here on one Bill's Live Present like a lot of health.

1670
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:01,639
Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bill's.

1671
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 3: Radio, all right.

1672
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:20,599
Speaker 2: Some final thoughts here on the tweet sheet from Herb

1673
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:24,599
Speaker 2: the rest of the league is finally respecting Buffalo like

1674
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 2: they should. Josh, along with being a McDermott has brought

1675
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:30,679
Speaker 2: credibility to Buffalo from around the rest of the NFL.

1676
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:33,519
Speaker 2: This is all from a men cover. How about that?

1677
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 1: It's amazing.

1678
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:37,920
Speaker 2: Steve on the tweet sheet says, it's extremely cool for

1679
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 2: the city of Buffalo. Not only is our quarterback on

1680
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 2: the cover, but Bill's Mafia is also a part of

1681
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 2: the cover as well. Perfect combination of what this city

1682
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 2: and team is all about.

1683
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 1: I think that's the cool part. That something that the

1684
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:54,040
Speaker 1: relationship that's been acknowledged around the league, around the country,

1685
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 1: about the special relationship between Bill's Mafia and their team

1686
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:03,639
Speaker 1: and their city and each each other. It's neat that

1687
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:07,559
Speaker 1: they got included, and it's awesome. It's really awesome. For

1688
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:11,679
Speaker 1: the first time on any cover you get an actual

1689
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 1: where the fans are prominent in the picture of right there.

1690
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 1: There's no mistake in it. There as much a part

1691
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:21,759
Speaker 1: of it as the player themselves. Like Josh. So it's cool,

1692
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 1: very cool, and it's fitting as well.

1693
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 2: We're glad you liked it. We did too. I don't know.

1694
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 2: I'm just I don't I've never you know, I don't

1695
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:35,759
Speaker 2: even play Madden, and I just thought it's a pretty

1696
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 2: sweet deal just having him as the face of that game.

1697
01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:44,000
Speaker 2: And I believe it based on some of the responses

1698
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 2: we've heard today, there's gonna be a lot of people

1699
01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:49,679
Speaker 2: that treat this like a collector's item, not a game

1700
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 2: they're going to necessarily play on a gaming system.

1701
01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:53,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you get if you're a gamer and you're

1702
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 1: going to wear it out, you should buy two of them.

1703
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:59,679
Speaker 1: You know, I put one away, Oh, Matt.

1704
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 2: The EA Sports people knew just what they were doing

1705
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:05,200
Speaker 2: because on the regular cover it's just Josh. On the

1706
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:08,799
Speaker 2: deluxe edition, I mean, they made a second cover because

1707
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:11,599
Speaker 2: they know what Bill's Mafia is gonna do. They see

1708
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:14,360
Speaker 2: how much they donate to charities at the drop of

1709
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:14,959
Speaker 2: a hat.

1710
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:16,640
Speaker 1: I will say this, I'm not going to be doing that.

1711
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 1: I'm not a I've got an addict full of old

1712
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 1: football stuff and i'd love to get rid.

1713
01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 2: Of Maybe I can help you out with that. That's it.

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