1 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Totally and Janey, you push your on. 2 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 2: A central banking sign. 3 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 3: Okay, Glenn, I can't stay. Good mornings, swe World, and 4 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 3: welcome to the Nodungs podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Monday, 5 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 3: January eleventh. 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We eclipsed twenty four thousand subs on Sunday. 16 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 3: The goal was twenty five k oh so close. But 17 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 3: let's just do it today. Let's just do it today? 18 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: Why not? 19 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 3: Right? Why not on a Monday? Make it happen? 20 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: People. 21 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 3: If you listen to the podcast, highly recommend you got 22 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 3: to check out No Dunks YouTube because we had the 23 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 3: return of Lee's very solid plays on Friday. That video 24 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 3: is up two thumbs up the best ratio in business lead. 25 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 3: At one point, Lee, you had one thousand likes on 26 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 3: the VSP and zero dislikes. It's incredible ratio. 27 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 2: And U. 28 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. So, if you are listening to this podcast, we 29 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 3: are now going to include in the episode description a 30 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 3: link right there for you. Click it, it'll take you 31 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 3: to a No Dunks YouTube channel and hit subscribe. It's 32 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 3: one click, baby, I guess it's sort of two clicks. 33 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 3: You gotta click the link and then you gotta subscribe, 34 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 3: but close enough. So Lee, it must be great to 35 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 3: have VSP back in your lives, in our lives. 36 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 4: It's amazing, so much fun just to bring back those plays, 37 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 4: you know, because people do just get sick of dunks 38 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 4: all the time. They want to see football movement, they 39 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 4: want to see pump fake parties, they want the boomerangs, 40 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 4: they want the passport plays and what was really good 41 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 4: this weekend? Already I've compiled probably ten very solid play 42 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 4: candidates first week. 43 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 3: Oh boy, so it's great. 44 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 4: I've been getting tips on Twitter as well when a 45 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 4: great play goes down, so it might bring shout outs 46 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 4: into the mix. I'm not sure it's the work of 47 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 4: the formats to cancel. 48 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: We go to cancel. I'm throwing some thumbs down on 49 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: some thumbs down early. Yeah, that's the way. 50 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 4: By the way, I will say, you mentioned the likes there, right, 51 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 4: I ended up with two lights, two dislikes, right. 52 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 3: Sorry, now, now one was mine. 53 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 4: Okay, that's fine, I can ride one. But listen, petty 54 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 4: dislikes the weakest dislikes you can possibly have out there. 55 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 4: If you don't like the video, make it a genuine dislike. 56 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 4: Don't make a petty dislike because after you send out 57 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 4: that tweet yesterday, this. 58 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 3: Key already tweeted it. 59 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, within seconds someone else disliked it. That's a petty 60 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 4: dislike for me. Get out of here with that genuine 61 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 4: dislikes or likes only nothing else. Okay, I mean, that's 62 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 4: that's all. I just want to say. It's a little 63 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 4: bit of a announcement. I'd like to mate. I can 64 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 4: handle a dislike. I'm not anti dislike. Genuine dislikes, genuine 65 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 4: honest dislikes. Okay, so you can't. 66 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 3: You can't dislike the video because thirteen hundred people have 67 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 3: liked it, and then, oh well, I better dislike. 68 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 4: It precisely, precisely get out of here with that, or 69 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 4: man up and say who you are. Okay, just say 70 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 4: I disliked it. 71 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 3: That's all. 72 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 4: That's all. 73 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 3: Okay, excellent, Well go watch that's it's a lot of fun. 74 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 3: And it was like, what two and a half minutes, 75 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 3: but it sounds like it's gonna be about fifteen minutes. 76 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 3: It's Friday, GD, so get ready for that. Email us 77 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 3: with questions and comments for this week's Beach Step In podcast. 78 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 3: We'll be stepping on the beach later this week. Email 79 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 3: them in No Dunks at the Athletic dot com or 80 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 3: you can leave a comment in the YouTube section. 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The Sixers and Celtics were nearly 101 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 3: unable to meet the requirements of playing with eight available 102 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 3: players this weekend because of players quarantine due tooitive tests 103 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 3: and contact tracing. And then we had the Heat who 104 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 3: just had seven eligible players. We're gonna be playing taking 105 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 3: on the Celtics, who, by the way, we're gonna just 106 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 3: have eight, but that game got postponed because you've got 107 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 3: to have a minimum of eight. So it's our second 108 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 3: postponment of the year. Now we have a bunch of 109 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 3: other players too, I mean Bradley Beal because of contact 110 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 3: tracing issues, and Avery Bradley and Maxi Kleeber and obviously 111 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 3: Jason Tatum with the Celtic. I mean, it goes on 112 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 3: and on. It sort of was a pretty wild weekend. 113 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 3: The NBA task says no plans to pause the season. 114 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 3: They've just come out and said that. They said, we 115 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 3: were ready for this to happen. It's happening. We're going 116 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 3: to soldier through and you know, outside of postponing some games, 117 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 3: we're not taking a two week hiatus here to see 118 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 3: if the virus goes away. What should the NBA do? 119 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 3: In your opinion? Are they doing the right thing? I 120 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 3: guess is another way to ask it, like they have 121 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 3: to do this to try and get through the season, 122 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 3: or should they be doing something else? Or what are 123 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 3: they doing wrong? What do you think? 124 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: Well, once they decided, hey, we're having an NBA, they 125 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 2: understood that this was going to happen. I mean that 126 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 2: was the first thing. If they didn't want any of 127 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: this to happen, then they could have just decided to 128 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 2: eat five hundred billion dollars or whatever the money the 129 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 2: dollar figure is. But in this instance, I just find 130 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 2: it really difficult to try and track and trace myself 131 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: because there's rules for people who contract the virus. You're 132 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 2: out for ten to fourteen days. Jason Tatum is the 133 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: biggest name player who's contracted the virus. You're out ten 134 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: to fourteen days. But the tracing procedures of the other guys, 135 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: there's so many guys, there's multiple guys. I wouldn't be 136 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 2: surprised if all thirty teams have had somebody get sit 137 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 2: due to contact tracing. It's probably it's not that high, 138 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: but it's those procedures aren't revealed to the media. Like 139 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: for instance, on Friday, Yonas Valanciunas was playing in a 140 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 2: basketball game. He was playing for the Grizzlies. He was 141 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 2: pulled one minute left in the second quarter against the Nets. 142 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 2: He didn't test positive, So what did the team learn 143 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 2: midway through the game that he came into contact with 144 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 2: I mean, I have no idea. Was it something they 145 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 2: should have known prior to the game. So there's it 146 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 2: just doesn't stop. The contract, the contact tracing, and the 147 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: web it does not stop. It seems like they're being 148 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 2: pretty vigilant about things, but what can they do. I 149 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 2: don't know. They haven't. They haven't really spelled out all 150 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: everything that they do behind the scenes. So I think 151 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 2: that's the sort of that's kind of the cloak over 152 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 2: what's going on. To try and understand, you can't really 153 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 2: wrap your head around it other than to know that, oh, 154 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 2: Michael Porter's out ten to fourteen days, and he was 155 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 2: out seven days before that, so he might be out 156 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 2: twenty one days, but he never contracted, he didn't contract 157 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 2: the virus. So it's just what's going on, So you 158 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 2: don't really know what the heck is happening. 159 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, one of the confusing parts that I find about 160 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 3: the whole thing is I guess how the NBA is 161 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 3: defining close contact, right, and I assume they are following 162 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 3: the guides of the CDC right, which defines close contact 163 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 3: as being within six feet of each other of a 164 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 3: COVID positive person for at least fifteen minutes. Okay, so 165 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 3: that's their guidelines. That sort of makes sense. But then 166 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 3: that oddly, in my opinion, doesn't include playing basketball tray right, like, 167 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 3: because last I checked, it is a you know, it's 168 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 3: a semi contact sport and you are around the guys 169 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 3: when you're out there on the floor but a player 170 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 3: who tests positive, you know, are not being identified as 171 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 3: being in close contact with opponents. And again we've had 172 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 3: examples of this. I mean, Curry played, Steph Curry played 173 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 3: in a game against the Wizards, and then we had 174 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 3: Tatum of course playing in a game also against the Wizards. 175 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 3: But then Bial was forced to miss a game because 176 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 3: he comes and you know, bros down with his buddy 177 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 3: and they're talking after the game, so they're in close contact. 178 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 3: But a bunch of other people are playing in that 179 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 3: game and they don't. That's where I'm confused about the 180 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 3: whole thing. I don't know what your take is. 181 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: It's confusing because it's a confusing way to do things. 182 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: But if you're saying we're not going back in the bubble, 183 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: which is what the NBA's governors, the NBA's players at 184 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: Silver all agreed, they said, we don't want to do 185 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: a bubble again. Once you say we're not doing a bubble, 186 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 1: you kind of got to throw out the social distancing 187 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: during a game, because, like you're saying, you're smashing into 188 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: each other for forty eight minutes, we all know it 189 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: takes longer than forty eight minutes to play a basketball game, 190 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: despite it being the fastest of the four major sports. 191 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: You're bumping into each other, you're next to each other 192 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: for three hours. So they basically got to say, yeah, 193 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: this is like we had ghost stats in the bubble. 194 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: This is ghost COVID basically amongst the teams, because if 195 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: they're not going to be counting the basketball playing, then 196 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: it's it's going to be confusing for everybody. But it 197 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: feels like we're heading for a postponed season, even if 198 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: it's only going to be for a couple of weeks. 199 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: Right now, they're saying we're pushing through no matter what, 200 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: because when players came back to training camp, they had 201 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: higher percentages of positive tests than they do through the season. 202 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: Right now, basically the league is saying, if we let 203 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: these guys go play, they're going to be contracting COVID anyway, 204 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: so we might as well make some money. The only 205 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: thing they can do is increase the size of rosters 206 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: to have players at the ready. Once a team like 207 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: the Celtics has to sit so much many people down, 208 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: they just have to have players ready to go. It's 209 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: very weird. It's incredibly hard to follow, it's incredibly hard 210 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: to see how the league can go from being in 211 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 1: a bubble and being the way that a sports league 212 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: comes back and has a successful COVID plan. That doesn't 213 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: seem to be the case, though the league is saying 214 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: that this is kind of what they expected and it's 215 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: not dissimilar to the NFL or to MLB. Right, the 216 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns just made it back to the playoffs for 217 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: the first time in forever and they couldn't have their 218 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: head coach there. That's how things have been happening in 219 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: every other sports league. The NBA did it in the 220 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: bubble to finish the playoffs last season, and it was awesome. 221 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 1: Coming into this season, we knew things were going to 222 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: be different, and like we're seeing three weeks into the 223 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: league totally different. 224 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. The big part, big difference, I guess with those 225 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 3: other leagues, right, is just the size of your team. 226 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 3: Like the NBA has less guys than than an MLB roster, 227 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 3: less guys of course than an NFL roster. And I 228 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 3: keep thinking how beneficial it would have been to have 229 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 3: the G league bubble actually up and running sort of 230 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 3: at the start of the season to do what you 231 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 3: were talking about, their trade to then expand your roster 232 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 3: in case of emergency. Well, that'd be cool if you 233 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 3: had your G League team in a bubble, you know, 234 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 3: in theory safe that you could then pull guys. And 235 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 3: I know there would be travel issues still in play, 236 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 3: but a lot a lot safer at least than just 237 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 3: having guys scattered all over the place, like hey we 238 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 3: need that guy now. It may have made it a 239 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 3: little bit easier to build a roster, to have a 240 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 3: minimum bake guys. And here's a difference then, or probably 241 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 3: it's like I know six or stands all like going, well, 242 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 3: why was our game not you know, postponed? Had we 243 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 3: had eight guys? I throw that in air quotes because 244 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 3: Mike Scott they had to literally dress even though Doc 245 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 3: Rivers said he's not even playing because he's injured. So 246 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 3: we had seven guys, So why is that game going on? 247 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 3: And then we turn around and see the heat Celtics 248 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 3: in a similar situation that one gets postponed. That is 249 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 3: that's a bit of a problem. It feels a little 250 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 3: willy nilly of like, well, this game goes or it doesn't. 251 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 3: I don't know, what do you think about that? They 252 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 3: have a right to be upset about that well. 253 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 4: I think the NBA obviously just wants to play out 254 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 4: through as many games as possible, and if that means 255 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 4: that you do have to dress someone even though he's 256 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 4: not going to play, just to get the game done, 257 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 4: that's what they want to do because they don't want 258 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 4: a backlog of games to have to be played. But 259 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 4: I really wonder what is it going to take before 260 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 4: we do get potentially a suspension or a postponmanent. Because 261 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 4: you know a lot of these guys who have got it, 262 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 4: they recover fairly quickly, so no one has any sort 263 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 4: of lasting, long lasting impact. But what happens if someone 264 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 4: does have to go to hospital and is in you know, 265 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 4: the ICU for a few days or or longer or 266 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 4: something like that, is that when the NBA pulls the plug. 267 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 4: Because clearly it's about money. I mean, you know, they 268 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 4: need the games on TV. They need to make money. 269 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 4: They lost so much money from last season and then 270 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 4: the late start for this season, so they want to 271 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 4: just get the games out there and play as many 272 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 4: of them as possible before it comes to a sort 273 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 4: of point of no return. I think. So it's definitely 274 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 4: a concern. You're seeing so many teams have somebody infected 275 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 4: that at what point is it going to be where 276 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 4: they say, listen, maybe we just close this down for 277 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 4: the next three weeks a month. Who knows if that 278 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 4: will even have a if that will even fix the problem, 279 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 4: because you know, while COVID is still completely out of 280 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 4: control in this country until the government has any sort 281 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 4: of handle on it, we're going to probably come back 282 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 4: and to be in that same situation of like it's 283 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 4: a day by day, case by case situation. So it's 284 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 4: definitely it's definitely sort of weird watching the league at 285 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 4: the moment because you're sort of seeing these games and 286 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 4: situations unfolding, you know, minute by minute, just like this 287 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 4: guy has been in contact with somebody, so he has 288 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 4: to be away from the team. Now they're seeing who 289 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 4: he was in contact as well to see who else 290 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 4: could potentially be infected and and or affected by it. 291 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 4: So it's it's very very weird. But I think we 292 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 4: are one thing I was say, I think we're definitely 293 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,359 Speaker 4: going to see just more and more cancelations and postponments 294 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 4: of games of individual games. And again, at what point 295 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 4: does the league say, Okay, we need to probably we 296 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 4: need to probably stop this for the next next three 297 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 4: or four weeks and get a handle on it, because 298 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 4: otherwise it could just be a season where you have 299 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 4: some teams playing, you know, potentially five or six games, 300 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 4: maybe even more than some of the other teams, like 301 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 4: the Celtics and the Heat. Who are who are? I 302 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 4: mean the Celtic seats the second game that has been postponed, 303 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 4: But it just feels like we're on the brink of 304 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 4: a few more happening. 305 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, we will wait and find out. Yeah, the Hawks 306 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 3: and Sixers are supposed to play tonight, I mean right 307 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 3: now talking to each other. That game is on as 308 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 3: far as we're concerned. Heat and Sixers are gonna play 309 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 3: tomorrow night again. In theory, the Celtics are supposed to 310 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 3: play the Bulls coming up here, I think on Tuesday nights. 311 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 3: In theory, we'll see if those games actually go through, because, yeah, 312 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 3: you get to the point where you need the bodies 313 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 3: to play a basketball game. And Doc River's made an 314 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 3: interesting point too, you know, especially in the Sixers instance, 315 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 3: where they don't have a lot of guys, so now 316 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 3: you're forced to play these rookies. I know we're gonna 317 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 3: get them a little bit later in the show, but 318 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 3: you're forced to play all these rookies heavy, heavy minutes. Well, 319 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 3: what type of toll is that going to have on 320 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 3: some of these players too? We're like they're just forced 321 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 3: into playing forty minutes a game and suddenly you have, 322 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 3: you know, back to back games, you've got four and 323 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 3: six nights. Well, wow, what tipe of you know where 324 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 3: and tear does that do to the player? And our 325 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 3: injury is gonna like skyrocket here when we have fewer 326 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 3: guys that are just playing heavier minutes. We'll see, we'll 327 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 3: just see and hopeful the best. But it is it's 328 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 3: weird right now, Like the standings are weird, the game 329 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 3: results are weird. Task who said it's like near impossible 330 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 3: trying to keep track of like, yeah, who has tested positive? 331 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 3: Who's just out for contact tracing? Then how long is 332 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 3: it going to be? Oh they come back early, are they? 333 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 3: I mean it's very confusing. 334 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't want to track that. I wouldn't want 335 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 2: to have a spreadsheet on that. It is. It's convoluted, 336 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 2: and especially when you see the news report, usually you'd say, oh, 337 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: guy sitting out, he probably has COVID. But most of 338 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 2: the guys. A high high percentage of the guys who 339 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 2: have sat out games do not have COVID. It's just 340 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 2: because of contact tracing. It's a very low percentage of 341 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 2: guys who actually have the virus. And they did expand 342 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 2: the rosters to have seventeen guys this season at like 343 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 2: fifteen active and seven plus they're to two AA guys 344 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 2: who usually go down to the league, So they expanded 345 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 2: it ever so slightly. But yeah, it's teetering on a 346 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 2: number of these games, as what happened with the Sixers 347 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: and the Nuggets. Yeah, a bubble would solve everything. And 348 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 2: that's the and that's the issue with going forward. If 349 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 2: it's this bad several months from now when the playoffs 350 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 2: are supposed to start in May, hopefully things you know, 351 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 2: have have changed by then. But do they just throw 352 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 2: up a bubble for the playoffs is my question. I 353 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 2: think that's possible. But yeah, hopefully months and months and 354 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 2: months from now things would have changed in this country. 355 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 2: That's hope. Let's hope and the world. I mean, there's 356 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 2: there's a lot happening, all right. 357 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 3: Let's get to NBA weekend and winners and losers. It 358 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 3: will start with winners this Monday. So, Trey, why do 359 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 3: you get it started? What's your your big NBA weekend winner? 360 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: Big winner of the weekend the Charlotte Hornets and in 361 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: particular LaMelo Ball, who might have us bringing back the 362 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: Mellow drop twenty to twelve and eleven assists in a 363 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: win against the Hawks on Saturday, nine of thirty team 364 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: from the field, three of five from three, the most 365 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: minutes of his career, and the big news the youngest 366 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: player to ever record a triple double passing Markel Foltz. 367 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: Now Oscar Robertson did have a triple double in his 368 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: very first game. The game has changed, but Mellow looked 369 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: great for the Hornets on Saturday. He had a sick highlight, 370 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: a lefty lookaway pass for a bucket underneath the hoop. 371 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: I loved his postgame interview. They asked him, how did 372 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: you get so good at rebounding? You know we love 373 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: to track this rebounding stuff around here on no Dunks. 374 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: Mello just said, I played a lot of twenty one 375 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:34,479 Speaker 1: growing up. 376 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 3: I love it. 377 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: He's playing against other future NBA players. He's playing against 378 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: the legendary one on one guy in LaVar Ball of course, 379 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: he gotta be able to board a little bit. But 380 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: it wasn't just Saturday, because Friday the Hornets got to 381 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: win as well, and Mello was an assist shy of 382 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: his first triple double in that win against the Pelicans 383 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: on Friday. He struggled to shoot from the field in 384 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 1: that one four for eleven, one of five from three, 385 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: and it definitely feels like Lamello's gonna struggle to score efficiently, 386 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: even the good shots he's taking. When he's in the lane, 387 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: when he's getting these little floaters, he's got space, but 388 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: he's shooting it off like one leg as high as possible. 389 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: It never looks like the same shot time and time again. 390 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: He hit a three against the Hawks where he took 391 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: a shot and then he kind of hopped forward a 392 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: couple of times as the ball was still in the air. 393 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: It went in. He did the three to the head 394 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: and I was like, Wow, Okay, I didn't like that. 395 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: They're calling this guy mellow, but he's mellow right now. 396 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 1: He's figuring it out. DeVante Graham still hasn't cracked forty 397 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: percent from the field in a game, so to me, 398 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: right now, it's kind of a matter of how much 399 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: longer until lamellow ball is starting for the Hornets. They 400 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: look great when he's on the court. He pushes the pace. 401 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: He's a real nice mix with Miles Bridges. Unfortunately for 402 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: the Hornets, if they wanted to play their optimum lineups, 403 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: they're running out a center and power forward who are 404 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: six six and six seven. That's probably not sustainable for 405 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: a team like the Hornets. But fun watching over the weekend. 406 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: Terry Rozier a huge dunk. Gordon Hayward has been good. 407 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: Terry Rozier, like I said, has been good as well. 408 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: So go check out some LaMelo highlights. That was awesome. 409 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: It's good to see him figuring it out a little 410 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 1: bit here. 411 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're coming in victories too. A Hornets are Yeah, 412 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 3: five and five just like every other every second team 413 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 3: in the league right now. Just a classic five hundred 414 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 3: even Steven that is what this season little about. But 415 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 3: he's he's he has shut up the dotors. Even like me, 416 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,479 Speaker 3: the more you watch him play, it's yeah, you're like, Okay, 417 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 3: I was probably wrong with him. I was not as 418 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 3: high on him as obviously somewhere thinking you should be 419 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 3: the number one pick. But he's he's played really really impressively. 420 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 3: And if if he gives us three threes a game 421 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 3: or something like that, if he had two out of 422 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 3: every five or three out every five, then you're then 423 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 3: you're laughing. I don't care how oldly this show. 424 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: I mean, if it's forty to sixty percent from three, 425 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: it's gonna run MVP, no doubt about it. 426 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 3: You know, you know a couple of games what I'm saying, 427 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 3: maybe not two for five, Yeah, like two. 428 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: For I do. I do love that he is six 429 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: eight though, and you can tell it when he's throwing 430 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: these passes on the fast break. He's throwing passes over 431 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: guard's heads. He's just like whipping them right over their head. 432 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: And I thought that quote was hilarious. I played a 433 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: lot of twenty one growing up myself. I was more 434 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: of a thirty two man shoot the free throws, which 435 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: is why I still hate free throws to this day. 436 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 3: Lee. 437 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 1: But it's great to hear a throwback from an NBA 438 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: player said, yeah, I played twenty one, good stuff. I 439 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,959 Speaker 1: guess that was not too long ago for LaMelo either, right, 440 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: like he has been playing professionally for a while right now, 441 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if you played Tip twenty one with 442 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: a bunch of Lithuanians, but he was in high school 443 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: not too long ago, playing with li Angelo and Lonzo Well. 444 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 4: You know, playing with men though, down in Australia in 445 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 4: the Australian League, and he was racking up a couple 446 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 4: of triple doubles down there. And when we spoke to 447 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 4: Liam tast and I spoke to Liam Santa Maria who 448 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 4: followed him, he said, he's ready to play against men 449 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 4: in the NBA. And you know, there's always some skepticism, 450 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 4: of course, and there should be with a player who 451 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 4: goes and plays in a lower league, in a lesser 452 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 4: a lower standard of league. But he has come off 453 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 4: the bench accepted his role very well. And as Trey 454 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 4: mentioned that, I think surely James Borego's got to be like, 455 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 4: we're got to get this guy in the starting lineup. 456 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 4: You know, you can deal with the fact that he's 457 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 4: not a great shooter because he's a playmaker. He's a defender, 458 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 4: He rebounds and he gets that ball moving in transition, 459 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 4: which is really what the Hornets need better when he's 460 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 4: on the court. I think I definitely think that ball 461 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 4: moves better, and it hits up the guys like Gordon Haywood, 462 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 4: who you know, he likes to get to his spots 463 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 4: and get those shots. So very very good signs here 464 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 4: from the Charlotte Hornets. They're playing well, they're winning, and 465 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 4: that looks like they have got to keep it there 466 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 4: in Lamello. 467 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's probably helped out too with all this rebounding 468 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 3: by having to be the younger brother's entire life get 469 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 3: the ball. I gotta go out box you know, uh 470 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 3: my two bigger bros. And got to put some effort 471 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 3: in on that end. I'm never going to see the ball, 472 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 3: So that probably works out in his favor too. Wait, 473 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 3: what are you impressed with LaMelo Ball? I assume tasks. 474 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 2: The season couldn't have started any better for the Hornets. 475 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 2: It's absolutely perfect. You get him at the three spot 476 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 2: in the draft, and although James Wiseman, Anthony Edwards I've 477 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 2: played well in front of him, LaMelo Ball still has 478 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 2: the most star potential and he's coming off the bench 479 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 2: and he's still bringing all this chatter about the Hornets. 480 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 2: The buzz city is buzzing. Look at us, we're talking 481 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 2: about Charlotte for extended periods of time. Did we do 482 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 2: that last year at all? I don't think. I think so, 483 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 2: and it's because of LaMelo Ball. It really is coming 484 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 2: off the bench. It can only get better. I do 485 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 2: like the fact that James Bergo has given him a role, 486 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 2: made him earn his minutes to start this season. And 487 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 2: I think it's also started perfectly because this buzz in 488 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 2: Buzz City, it's all about the highlights. It's all about hey, 489 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 2: come watch LaMelo Ball and what he can do on 490 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 2: the floor and the way he can pass. And it's 491 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 2: not about the fact that he has one for five 492 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 2: nights like he did on Friday. It's about just the 493 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 2: you know, the stat line. When it comes down to it. 494 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 2: He can board, he's he is shooting, even though I 495 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 2: said he's one for five and that kind of goes 496 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 2: under the radar. He is shooting an acceptable and okay 497 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 2: three point percentage for our expectations anyways. To be above 498 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 2: thirty percent is a good start for him because down 499 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 2: in Australia he wasn't near anywhere near that from the 500 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 2: three point land. So I think this role is helping 501 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 2: him and the fact that LaVar Ball hasn't come out 502 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 2: and pulled a Marvin Bagley junior. Marvin Bagley Dad moved 503 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 2: and said, Hey, what the heck is going on with 504 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 2: my son? Get him in the starting lineup. That's a 505 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 2: huge win for Charlotte to start. He's being pretty quiet, 506 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 2: but the buzz is in buzz city. Baby. It's a 507 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 2: it's a fun team to watch it. Yeah, they're they're 508 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 2: they're talked about, and that's what it really comes down to. 509 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 2: And LaMelo, man, he is he's a joy because he's 510 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 2: got the vision and uh yeah, he goes. He gets 511 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 2: after it hard and he can play d too. So 512 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 2: him and him versus Lonzo was fun and it's gonna be. 513 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 2: I'm sure LaVar has already put it up up there 514 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 2: on the mantle that Lebron was once the youngest triple 515 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 2: double guy, and yeah, I went through Luca, went through Markel, 516 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 2: but then it went through his two sons too. They 517 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 2: both held the title for a bit, so that's pretty cool. 518 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think LeVar was already talking about talking up 519 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 3: about getting Lonzo to the Hornets to play with LaMelo. 520 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 3: So that's how great it's going for the Charlotte Hornets. 521 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 3: The opposite of what you're saying test, Yeah, Like the 522 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 3: worry is like all LeVar is gonna be like, get 523 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 3: him out of Charlotte Instead, he said, no, get my 524 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 3: other son to Charlotte so he win a championship together. 525 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 2: That's good. He's been Leavar has been humbled a little 526 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 2: bit throughout the last few years, a little bit with 527 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 2: with you know how Big Baller brand became little Baller brand. 528 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 2: But you know, things are things are looking good for 529 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 2: the Ball family. Leangelo Ball is going to play in 530 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 2: the G League Bubble, which is starting next next month. 531 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 2: Although I don't like the mellow LaMelo thing. I'd rather 532 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 2: not have him be named the same a similar name 533 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 2: to Carmelo Anthony. 534 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 3: You know, like Carmelo's out of the league. 535 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 2: Maybe are we gonna call a mellow mellow? Like Trey said, 536 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 2: I he got that four letter. 537 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 4: I and is just on I G too. 538 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 2: I think. 539 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 3: Somebody exactly I'll say to the final thing on the 540 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 3: mellow ball is uh. I'm impressed for a guy that 541 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 3: like throws all these highlight passes because he loves to 542 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 3: throw a newp he doesn't turn the ball over all 543 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 3: that much. For a guy that is in love with 544 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 3: an amazing assist. So it's he knows it's there and 545 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 3: he's confident in his ability to pass. Like you said, 546 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 3: Trey helps that he's in the size he is. He 547 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 3: can pass over a lot of guys. Man, he loves 548 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 3: to pass too, which is fun. So he is he 549 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 3: has proven me so far, you know, through the first 550 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 3: three weeks here. I had lower expectations for him right 551 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 3: out of the gate. At least he's he's a fun watch, 552 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 3: all right. Who he got task for a winner of 553 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 3: the weekend. 554 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 2: Well, Nikola Jokic could do something which has never been 555 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 2: done before in the NBA. He could be the first 556 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 2: center to average ten assists per game. Talk about passing 557 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 2: this guy in double digits assists right now, ten and 558 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 2: a half assists per game. Then I gets went too 559 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 2: and oho over the weekend they became another one of 560 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 2: those teams that's five and five. The standings don't matter, 561 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 2: but the fact that Nicola Jokic didn't have to do 562 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 2: a lot of scoring was nice. He could just relax 563 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 2: because he's an MVP candidate. Because he's doing scoring and 564 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 2: he's doing the assisting. He had twelve helpers in one 565 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 2: game and then five in the next. I mean, this 566 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 2: guy is. He's been propelled into the MVP chats partly 567 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 2: because of other guys not playing to their capabilities, but 568 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 2: also because he is absolutely showing it all off, and 569 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 2: I think we can all start to appreciate what he's doing. 570 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 2: He's definitely the best passing big man in NBA history. 571 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 2: I know that that's a bit of an asterisk, but 572 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 2: I wouldn't put him as the best passer ever in 573 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 2: NBA history. That's I'm not putting that title on him. 574 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 2: But to be the best passing big man in NBA history, 575 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 2: that's a frickin great title. To pass r Vitas a 576 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 2: Bonus or or Bill Walton or whoever. And nobody's done 577 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 2: tennysis per game. Do I truly, in my heart of hearts, 578 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 2: believe he's gonna have tennysis per game? Probably not, But 579 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 2: if he keeps being featured on the VSP Plays of 580 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 2: the Week of very solid plays of the week he 581 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 2: should check out on YouTube, then maybe he will. Maybe 582 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 2: he will. He's he's just he's ridiculous, and he's he's 583 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 2: he is. I think that the Nuggets are looking for 584 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 2: a guy to handle the ball a little bit more, 585 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 2: to take more of the burden off Yokic's shoulders. But 586 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 2: it's fun for us because he's he's absolutely getting ridiculous 587 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 2: this and he earns most of them too. They're not 588 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 2: just crappy, poopy pass uh you know, dribble dribble, dribble, dribble. 589 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 2: Oh you got an assist. The assists are awesome. Unfortunately, 590 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 2: LaMelo Ball doesn't have the assist chops that Jokic does 591 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 2: quite yet. I'm saying Yokic is a better passer than 592 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,719 Speaker 2: LaMelo Ball. I'll say that, but it's it's a it's 593 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 2: a blast watching. 594 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: A couple of great questions on the stream. Team Ziggy 595 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: Star Fox says the disrespect to Brad Miller and I 596 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: just have to one hundred percent agree A four bear 597 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: to Nikola Jokic. He had one pass, the back door 598 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: pass that got through fifty percent of the time. But 599 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: a good question from Greg Stapleton. He says that Jokic 600 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: is the best passer in the league right now. Right now, 601 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 1: that's more debatable. 602 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Lebron's a better passer. Maybe I'm giving 603 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 2: Lebron the title just because he's so fricking good. But 604 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 2: when a guy does it on the move a little 605 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 2: bit more. He earned some more points to me, and 606 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,719 Speaker 2: Jokic is quite stationary. I mean, he's amazing. What are 607 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 2: we picking, you know, we're splitting hairs here. But I 608 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 2: think the fact that Lebron is you know, he does it. 609 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 2: He does it for forty seven feet, he does it 610 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 2: all the way through the mid court while he's moving. 611 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 2: I think you Kich is a better passer. Yeah, I 612 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 2: mean Lebron yeah, yeah, yeah, But. 613 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 3: Yorkic makes passes than no one else in the league 614 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 3: makes totally, like even Lebron right, just because of where 615 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 3: he operates and the size of them and the touch 616 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 3: he has like that water polo handball. Yeah, vibe, I 617 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 3: mean no one does that. Yeah, that's I mean, do 618 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 3: you give credit to Lebron too, because he's done it 619 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 3: for basically two decades now too, obviously a lot longer 620 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 3: than Yokic. Who cares if you pick Lebrin somebody else. 621 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 3: They're both incredible. 622 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 4: Chris Wow, Yeah, it's it's one of those two. But 623 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 4: they are different passes, if there's such a thing, it 624 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,239 Speaker 4: can be different passes because we still see Lebron make 625 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 4: those cross court sort of no look passes where he 626 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 4: finds some guy in the corner, which is incredible. Yokic 627 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 4: does something kind of different though from that. He's kind 628 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 4: of looking on one side of the court and then 629 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 4: he does does that like almost tennis ball toss to 630 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 4: a guy coming in, or he does that feathery little 631 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 4: bounce pass inside to a guy cutting in and those 632 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 4: ones where know you when you watch Yo Kitchen, it's like, 633 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 4: I didn't even see that guy I had, did he 634 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 4: see him? And he just finds some guy cutting underneath. 635 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 4: So you know what Wayne Gretzky said, You know, I 636 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 4: don't I don't skate to where the puckis. I skate 637 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 4: where it's going to be. Well, guys know, run to 638 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 4: the spot, because Jokich is gonna find you, you know 639 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 4: whereas Lebron's more just like if you're there, he'll he'll 640 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 4: drill it to you in the corner. 641 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 2: So he makes passes that nobody else does too. 642 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 3: Lebron Lebron, Yeah, he just had one this weekend. 643 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: We threw like a left handed league Like on the 644 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: Kic pass, I was like, this guy's been in the 645 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: league for nineteen years and he's still learning new things 646 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: from other players. Incredible stuff, but This was all a test, guys, 647 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: just making sure you weren't underrating Lebron's passing. 648 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 3: No, that's right. It's crazy. If you were to make 649 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 3: a poll though, if we were to throw a Twitter 650 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 3: poll up, who's the best passer in the league today, 651 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 3: We're gonna put Yo Kich on it. We're gonna put 652 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 3: Lebron it, Lebron on it. We have two more options 653 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 3: to throw up there. We're not doing the classic other 654 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 3: give me your answer just throws the whole pole. Uh, 655 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 3: you know, whack? Who would you put le? Who are 656 00:29:59,000 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 3: the other two passers? 657 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 4: Definitely Chris Paul is one of them. Yeah, I can 658 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 4: argue that that fourth one. I think Harden's in the mix. 659 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 4: I think Lucas in the mix. I think Marcazol. Marcasol 660 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 4: doesn't really yeah, he just doesn't play it as much. 661 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 3: Any Yeah, I know where you're going with that. Yeah yeah, stretch. 662 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I don't know why LaMelo Yeah maybe maybe 663 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 4: hurry hurry, step steph Curry Yeah yeah, oh yeah, do 664 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 4: you go a heart and Luca? 665 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 3: I like those. Let's hear from you guys in the 666 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 3: stream team. Who's that? Who's that fourth person? I'm sure 667 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 3: they've got some suggestions that were that were forgetting as well. 668 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 3: All right, so Yo Kitcho winner of the Weekend. He's uh, 669 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 3: I'm with you, Test. I actually think he's going to 670 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 3: do it. I think he's going to to do the 671 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 3: ten assists that it's very possible. He is, of course going 672 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 3: to lead the league in assists, which the whole thing 673 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 3: with Will Chamberlain. He did lead the league in total 674 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 3: assists one year. I'm not sure to let it in 675 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 3: assists per game. Somebodyn't have to fact check me on it. 676 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 3: It's like the late sixties or something, right, that. 677 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 4: Was, Yeah, that was that season where he decided he 678 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 4: was going to do it because people, Yeah. 679 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 3: I know he had like eight point I know he 680 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 3: had seven point eight and then he had like eight 681 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 3: point six. I think, But I feel like he didn't 682 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 3: le lead the league in assists per game, but he 683 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 3: led it in total assists. It's a weird little one. 684 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 3: I think somebody checked. 685 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 2: Leading the league in total assists is not leading the 686 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 2: league in assists. 687 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 3: Well then then then honestly fact checked me. So can 688 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 3: you can we say Will lead the league in assist 689 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 3: one year? 690 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, You're right, you're right. It says he 691 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 4: he did not lead the league and assists per game. 692 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 3: Well that did he lead the league in assists? 693 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 2: No? 694 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 3: Well that's what everybody tells me. 695 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 2: No total assists. Are you kidding me? 696 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 3: No, I'm telling you. I'm agreeing with you, man. But 697 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,719 Speaker 3: am I wrong in saying say everybody always says will one, 698 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 3: you're led the league in assists? 699 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 2: Technically they're right, but technically they're wrong. Technically, get out 700 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 2: of here. What's the point? I mean, there's so if 701 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 2: a guy, if if Lebron misses ten games, but he 702 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 2: was averaging forty points per game, and somebody passes him 703 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 2: because they're averaging thirty five, but they played the entire season. No, 704 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 2: get out of here. 705 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: All right? 706 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 3: So who let it lee that year? Yeah? Probably, let's 707 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 3: keep it going. Here's always a long podcast. One, it's 708 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 3: half my fault, Lee. What do you go? Well? I 709 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 3: found it. 710 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 4: I found a team that isn't five and five, and 711 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 4: that's the five and four Oklahoma City Thunder. What an 712 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 4: incredible five game road trip they just completed, went four 713 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 4: and one, beat some good teams, the Magic they lost 714 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,719 Speaker 4: there to the heat. They beat the Pelicans, and then 715 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 4: they did the New York double the Knicks and the 716 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 4: Brooklyn Nets. Now, I might say, well, it's the Knicks, 717 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 4: but the Knicks obviously this season has been playing well, 718 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 4: and then last night their most convincing win over the 719 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 4: Brooklyn Nets, down early, down fifteen points early, came back 720 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 4: kind of blew this game out in the end, And 721 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 4: a lot of it has to do with the fact 722 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 4: that two things. The Nets defense is absolutely atrocious and 723 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 4: shy Shay gild just Alexander. Who's that bet you guys have? 724 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 4: Is that Andrews and Andrew Wiggins? 725 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: Is it? 726 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 4: No, it's it's Shay, It's Shaey versus who though, Who's No, 727 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 4: it's just well Schevy and alstright right, I thought it 728 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 4: was Wichet or someone else. I couldn't figure it out that. 729 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 3: I've got Shay Gilders Alexander being an All Star either 730 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 3: this year or next season. And Trey says, no way, 731 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 3: it's too early. That's the bat. 732 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, I mean if he keeps up his play 733 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 4: of recent weeks, then I think it is going to 734 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 4: be Gilder Alexander, because he's been fantastic for the Thunder 735 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 4: during this stretch. Just again, they're like they were last season. 736 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 4: I think teams overlooked them. Teams probably think this team 737 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 4: isn't very good, but they just play so well together 738 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 4: and defensively, they just I mean, again, how much of 739 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 4: this is on the nets? They're missing Kyrie Irving. Of course, 740 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 4: Kevin Durant was back. He looked incredible again. There's actually 741 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 4: some the Brooklyn Nets put up a few clips of 742 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 4: Darius Baisley guarding Kevin Durant last night. It was just atrocious. 743 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 4: In fact, if I'm Steve Nash, at some point you 744 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 4: might just say, you four guys just played defense. Kevin. 745 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 4: You can go and get a sixty or seventy points 746 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 4: if you want, because he could have done that so 747 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 4: easily last night. But really, the star here for the net, 748 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 4: for the Thunder is Gildas. Alexander's play just a very 749 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 4: very impressive performance across the board. And if you look 750 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 4: at his last three games alone twenty one, twenty five 751 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 4: and ten and then thirty one and six there last night, 752 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 4: I mean, fantastic performance by him. He's been incredible. And 753 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 4: I mean, of the Thunder, are they are they for real? 754 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 4: Are they punching a little bit above their weight right now? 755 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 4: Or is this just the sort of team that, again, 756 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 4: maybe other teams are overlooking a little bit. I think 757 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 4: it's more that they are just a very good team, 758 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 4: well balanced, well coached, got some good depth. The Yarlow 759 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 4: off the bench last night, had a very good performance 760 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 4: for them. Al Horford a very very solid veteran for 761 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 4: them defensively, and of course he spreads the flow. So 762 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 4: lots of good signs there for Oklahoma City and for 763 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 4: a season where again we thought a little bit like 764 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 4: last season, like they're probably going to tank it, but 765 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:44,240 Speaker 4: they go out and play hard. 766 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, we thought this would be the one team right 767 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 3: in the Western Conference that maybe like, we don't really 768 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 3: need to win games this year, where everybody else we 769 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 3: talked about, you know, the Wolves and the Kings and 770 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 3: all those teams near the bottom, they are like going 771 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 3: for the suns obviously one again and stuff like that 772 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 3: heading out the season. I mean, oh, okay, see, do 773 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 3: they really care that much? They could probably you know, 774 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 3: like that top draft pick. But they're great. I mean, 775 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 3: their defense is good. They're they're a top ten I 776 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 3: believe defense right now in the league. Offense has struggled, 777 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 3: but Shay baby Lee, I mean, uh, Trey. Are you 778 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 3: worried at all? Worried at all at the Thunder will 779 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 3: have the record. 780 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: That's all it comes down. No, No, he still plays 781 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 1: in the Western Conference. That's the thing to me. He 782 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: plays in the Western Conference. If it was in the East, 783 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,800 Speaker 1: you'd be sitting pretty skeets. But if you're the Nets, 784 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: you gotta be a little bit more physical. These guys 785 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: cannot guard the perimeter at all. They go underneath every screen. 786 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: It gives a guard like Shay Gil just Alexander a 787 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 1: huge runway before they're even encountering a big It feels 788 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,760 Speaker 1: like the perimeter players that the Nets are going against 789 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: feel them zero percent. So it's so easy for a 790 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 1: guy like Shaye to get inside, to get in the lay, 791 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: and a guy like Commada d'allo to get a whole 792 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: bunch of open shots. The Nets got crushed in the 793 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 1: paint against the Thunder, and I don't think it was 794 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: a factor of DeAndre Jordan and Jared Allen are just 795 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 1: not good defenders. I think it's more like there are 796 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: so many shot attempts coming inside the lane, there are 797 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 1: so many penetrations by the guards of their opponents that 798 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 1: it's almost impossible to stop. Gotta get some toughness out there. 799 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: They need a tough guy. I don't really think that 800 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: the Nets have a tough guy. They've got a whole 801 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 1: bunch of players, but they don't have an enforcer or 802 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: just a gritty stopper. Bruce Brown supposed to be that guy, 803 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: but he hasn't yet. Maybe he needs to play some more. 804 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: But they got to get a little bit more physicality. 805 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they give up a billion second chance 806 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 2: points as well because they just can't board either. They're 807 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,280 Speaker 2: pretty low in the league in terms of defensive rebounding. 808 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 2: But shay Gil Alexander is a blast to watch. Just 809 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 2: his transformation from mere months ago in the bubble, he 810 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 2: looked like a shy boy out there, like he just 811 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 2: didn't want to play. I mean, he just wasn't confident, 812 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,919 Speaker 2: and now he is. He's a leader on a basketball team. 813 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 2: When the talk was coming into this season, ohshekhos, Alexander's 814 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 2: given the ring, has been given the reins. I thought 815 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 2: a few months ago, playing under Chris Paul and Dennis Shrewder, 816 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 2: he just didn't look good in that spotlight for the 817 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 2: first time. And then the spotlight hit and he has 818 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 2: he's embraced it and he is. I don't know what 819 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 2: happened in those couple months off, but man, it looks great. 820 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 3: My winner of the weekend, I'm gonna give it to 821 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 3: the Warriors because they had, you know, two wins over 822 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,839 Speaker 3: the weekend. Every win counts here. Friday night, Curry led 823 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 3: the Warriors back from a twenty two point deficit in 824 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 3: the second half against the Clippers. Steph put on a 825 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 3: show go check the highlights. Scored thirty eight points, hit 826 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 3: nine to threes, eleven assists in thirty six minutes. He 827 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 3: sparked this massive second half run. So that was a 828 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 3: huge win for the Dubs. And then on Sunday they 829 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 3: win the game, but with Curry having the worst shooting 830 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 3: night of his career. He shot two is sixteen. Shout 831 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,240 Speaker 3: out to Fred van Vliet and the other three Raptors 832 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,879 Speaker 3: all guarding Curry at the same time. Let the other 833 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 3: guys try and beat them, and they did so they 834 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 3: got the one six, one oh five victory. You know, 835 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 3: he had Damian Lee. He converted the tying and go 836 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:01,399 Speaker 3: ahead free throws with like three seconds left. After well, 837 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 3: he sold for sure some contact from Lowry at first 838 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 3: they thought it was a shooting foul and then they 839 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 3: looked at it said, oh, Lowry actually hit him before 840 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 3: the shooting foul and bonus and he hits the free throws. 841 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 3: I sell job by him, noo, and he knocked him down. 842 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 3: And then Siakam missed a spinning jumper at the buzzer 843 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 3: which Draymond did some early work defensively. Then Wiggins put 844 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 3: in the work you know, standing in front of Seakam, 845 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 3: put him into a tough shot, and that one fell short. 846 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 3: So Curry though, two is sixteen and the Warriors win, 847 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 3: which is pretty incredible, and task, I know on what 848 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 3: you need to know. You threw out the idea. The 849 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 3: Raptors lose another one. They had the nice win earlier 850 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 3: in the weekend over the Kings. They came back from 851 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 3: a big deficit in that one too and put up 852 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,879 Speaker 3: a ton of points. Has got it go in here 853 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 3: at least in terms of scoring. Comes up short with 854 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 3: the buzzer beating attempt. But you're throwing out. Look, the 855 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:51,879 Speaker 3: Raptors are what two and seven? 856 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 2: Now? 857 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 3: The schedule ink getting easier, it's all going to get 858 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 3: a little more difficult. They've had some games they obviously 859 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 3: should have won. In terms of the opponents would look 860 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,359 Speaker 3: to move Kyle Lowry. You threw it out there, the 861 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 3: possibility of Hey moving on from the greatest raptor of 862 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 3: all time the groat would Massai USERI do that. You 863 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 3: truly believe it could be in play. 864 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,839 Speaker 2: Though it's totally up to Kyle Lowry. If he says 865 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 2: I want to go, then Messias has the obligation to 866 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 2: send him because he has been the best raptor of 867 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 2: all time. Yeah, and he helped bring that title to Toronto. 868 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,959 Speaker 2: So if he wants to go, He's turning thirty five 869 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 2: here in two months. If he decides, listen, I'm not 870 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 2: even playing at home this year anyways. I'm playing in 871 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,479 Speaker 2: Tampa Bay. Maybe maybe I can go play somewhere else 872 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 2: for a few months and try and lead a team 873 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 2: that is a little bit closer to a championship. Then, yeah, 874 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,839 Speaker 2: don't I don't think the Raps are winning it. I 875 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 2: think that Kyle knows that. But if he wants to 876 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 2: be comfortable the last couple years, they're going to give 877 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 2: him a contract pass this year and do it. But 878 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 2: Massi UZERI could capitalize on the fact that Lowry's still 879 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,720 Speaker 2: ballwin and this is his last year of his contract. 880 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 2: But yeah, to see a legacy contract the other way 881 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprising either. I don't think. I don't think 882 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 2: Massai just says, man, I'm a cutthroat GM I'm doing it. 883 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 2: I think he has a conversation with Kyle Lowry, especially 884 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,240 Speaker 2: with what happened after Damar. And this is a different 885 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 2: situation too, so than the Damar situation. Like they are 886 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 2: they've already got the title and yeah, so I think 887 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 2: it could go either way. I think it's really up 888 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 2: to Kyle and what he wants to do for the 889 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:27,760 Speaker 2: rest of his career. 890 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 3: What do you think, Lee, Well, the Raptors potentially look 891 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 3: to move like a Kyle Lowry or other pieces on 892 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 3: this team after this really abysmal start, even though you 893 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 3: got some Raptors fans say, hey, let's look at the 894 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 3: positives from the weekend. You know on some some guy's 895 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 3: got to going again, especially Sea Oakham, and there's some 896 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 3: moral victories in the mix there or do you not 897 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 3: buy that? 898 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:48,240 Speaker 2: Not? Really? 899 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 4: No, I mean it's such a tough question because Massig 900 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,280 Speaker 4: Jerry did try away. Demataurizen tells me that he wouldn't 901 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 4: be afraid to try it away Kyle Lowry as well. 902 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 4: It's just what is Kyle's value right now? You know, 903 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 4: he's still a very good player, but he's a little 904 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 4: bit old. He's in his thirties here. He takes a 905 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 4: big contract, So if you're going to get something in return, 906 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,760 Speaker 4: would it cost you perhaps one of your younger players 907 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 4: as well. You know, I don't think he's going to 908 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 4: trade Siakam. I think he stays there. But I think 909 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,839 Speaker 4: Norm Powe's him play. I think Norm Powe's inconsistency is 910 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,360 Speaker 4: probably frustrating a lot of the front office and the 911 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 4: coaching staff, and I know it frustrates the fans out there. 912 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 4: So if you are going to get some really good 913 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 4: value back for Kyle, I think you probably have to 914 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 4: attach some sort of other asset along as well. But yeah, 915 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 4: I agree with what Tas is saying there. I don't 916 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,319 Speaker 4: think Massi does it without sort of going to Kyle 917 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 4: and saying, hey, listen, man, you want to just move 918 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 4: on and go somewhere else and maybe try to pick 919 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 4: up a title somewhere, and we can move on as 920 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 4: well and try to start, you know, the rebuild process 921 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 4: again here if you like, because I think Kyle and 922 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 4: Massia have had a bit of a tenuous relationship in 923 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 4: the past, and I don't think MASSI would want to 924 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 4: just trade him without him having some sort of awareness of, 925 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 4: you know, where he's being traded to and what they're 926 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,799 Speaker 4: getting in return. So not completely off the table, but 927 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 4: I don't think it's going to happen. I don't think so. 928 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 4: I think Lowry stays it because this is the final 929 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 4: year of his contract though in Toronto, So yeah, I 930 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 4: think they could have an easier separation at the end 931 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 4: of the season without having some sort of like, oh 932 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 4: my god, I can't believe this guy traded me type 933 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,280 Speaker 4: of conversation. But who knows, who knows? 934 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 2: I got no problem with moral victories. Though Pascal Siaka 935 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 2: looks like somewhat like an All Star All NBA player again, 936 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,760 Speaker 2: he didn't for most of the beginning of the season. 937 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 2: Last four games, he's looked pretty good. And that's not 938 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 2: a sign that he's going to take over and win 939 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 2: a championship. I'm not seeing that whatsoever. But he looked 940 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 2: abysmal in the bubble and to start this season, and 941 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,320 Speaker 2: now he's looking like himself. He's looking comfortable, and that 942 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,319 Speaker 2: he was a pretty good fricking player they had last year. 943 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,839 Speaker 2: And again, is it a one a I'm winning championship player. No, 944 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,399 Speaker 2: But that also leads me to believe that Lowry might say, 945 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 2: all right, you know, this has been a fantastic run 946 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 2: here in Toronto, but this is year fifteen for that 947 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 2: old man. You know, maybe he goes home to Philly 948 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 2: and chills out at some point, maybe he just says, 949 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 2: maybe he pulls the Marcus oul slash search or podcast 950 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 2: slash whatevery veteran usually does. I mean, it's just a 951 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 2: handful of guys at play, you know, until the end 952 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 2: of the career with the team that they played the 953 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 2: majority of their career with. You know, he obviously didn't 954 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,280 Speaker 2: start with the Raps, but it feels like it doesn't 955 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 2: It feels like he's our Raptor boy since day one. 956 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a weird Lowry game, even on Sunday 957 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 3: there too. He was like non existent for three quarters, 958 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 3: which you don't ever say about Kyle Lowry, Like, you know, 959 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 3: he's playing usually in a game, he has an imprint 960 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 3: on the game, even if he's not scoring a lot. 961 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 3: But then he exploded of course in the fourth quarter 962 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 3: and nearly got them the victory. 963 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 2: He had an imprint on Damian Lee's arm that foled, 964 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,359 Speaker 2: oh yeah, to lose the game. Unfortunately, we had. 965 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 3: A lot of replays there linked in that Warriors Raptors game. 966 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,440 Speaker 3: I want to show some love to Andrew Wiggins defense, 967 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 3: though he had four blocks in this one. Again, like 968 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 3: I said, did a great job staying in front of Sakam. 969 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 3: I'm sure you weren't happy with that shot selection there, 970 00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 3: I Ley, I know you want to see always a 971 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 3: guy try and get to the but I think he 972 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 3: did a good job Wig instead of like taking it 973 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:07,880 Speaker 3: away and forcing Sam into spinning backwards and taking a 974 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 3: job with it. Almost went down. 975 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:10,919 Speaker 2: Welcome to the island, mister Ski. 976 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 3: But he finished. 977 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 2: You left left. You can't leave. 978 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 3: I told you that. 979 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 4: You can't believe that's the problem to He finished with 980 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 4: four blocks last night and again that's when that's what 981 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,280 Speaker 4: frustrates me. It's like, why is it just those games 982 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 4: randomly pop up? Like why is his defense so inconsistent 983 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 4: and sporadic at this stage of his career. He can 984 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,880 Speaker 4: be a good defender, an impact defender. But yeah, for 985 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 4: that last play in this game had a few more 986 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 4: of those plays where he was going inside doing that 987 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 4: sort of herky jerky flippy uppy move that he does there. 988 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 4: That's hard to defend. I would have much rather seen 989 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 4: that than a fade away spin around from the free 990 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 4: throw line. But again, if it goes in, it's like 991 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 4: Sam's back, you know, And we don't talk about Draymond's 992 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 4: great defensive awareness on that last play. Instead, it's just like, yeah, because. 993 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,240 Speaker 3: It was not the first like option in that play 994 00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 3: exactly better two or three other options. 995 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 4: It's good fence beats good defense. So that's what it 996 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:05,720 Speaker 4: comes down to. But uh, yeah, Siakam looked last night anyway, 997 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 4: I thought better than he has a raw against the Kings. 998 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,840 Speaker 4: I guess was it was also an improvement. But again, 999 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,839 Speaker 4: just keep going at that room. You might get the faul, 1000 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 4: you might get the bold go out, you might get 1001 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 4: a tip in as well. Who knows, especially when your 1002 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,360 Speaker 4: team struggling for wins like the Raptors. 1003 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 3: Yeah they are. Are they the greatest two and seventeen 1004 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,440 Speaker 3: in NBA history? Let's talk about it. You said you 1005 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,879 Speaker 3: were in on moral victories tasks. I want to ask 1006 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 3: Trey if he's in on the Chicago Bulls moral victories 1007 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 3: from the weekend too. 1008 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 1: It's twenty twenty one. It's pure positivity skeets. Of course, 1009 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 1: I'm in on moral victories. I love moral victories. Now, 1010 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,160 Speaker 1: you got to play hard out there. You got to compete, 1011 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 1: and that's all that matters, not the wins or the losses, 1012 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:41,360 Speaker 1: the competition. 1013 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 3: Because you I mean, you said they were going to 1014 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,480 Speaker 3: win a game the Bulls this weekend against one of 1015 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 3: the LA teams. They nearly won both of them, but 1016 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,000 Speaker 3: came up short unfortunately to the Lakers and the Clippers. 1017 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 3: Save it, save it, We'll say, we'll say it, say 1018 00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 3: it all right, any other I'll just do some mini winners. 1019 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,240 Speaker 3: That Lavigne Kawhi Leonard showdown on Sunday. It was awesome. 1020 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 3: Deroz And I thought was incredible on Saturday taking over 1021 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,359 Speaker 3: against the Wolves. Go watch the highlights. Guy just won 1022 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,399 Speaker 3: them the game. And we're thinking of DeRozan, by the way, 1023 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 3: going through some you know, personal issues with his family 1024 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,799 Speaker 3: right now. Zion Williamson had a nice dunk. I just 1025 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,759 Speaker 3: wanted to throw it out there. It was a nice dunk. 1026 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 3: It was a nice highlight. I would even say it 1027 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,799 Speaker 3: wasn't a lamp. It was a fly on somebody. Yeah 1028 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 3: he was fine, he was fine. It was really nice. 1029 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 3: And what else did I have? That's basically it. Oh 1030 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,960 Speaker 3: the Jazz I gotta show some love because on Friday 1031 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,280 Speaker 3: they hit twenty five threes in a win against the Bucks. 1032 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 3: But it was on Friday. What I tell you, don't 1033 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,360 Speaker 3: do anything good on Friday. They'll never make it in 1034 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,200 Speaker 3: the show, even though they just did. But then on 1035 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,400 Speaker 3: Sunday I got really worried. The Jazz were up twenty 1036 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,319 Speaker 3: points on the Pistons. I'm like, oh, yeah, this is 1037 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 3: gonna be a winner of the weekend for the Utah Jazz. 1038 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 3: They nearly blew that twenty point lead, but they held 1039 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,440 Speaker 3: on in the end. So a mini winner of the 1040 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 3: weekend to Utah forgetting it done. You gotta come through 1041 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 3: on Sunday. If you're gonna do something special on Friday, 1042 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,840 Speaker 3: come through on Sunday. And they held on against obviously 1043 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,239 Speaker 3: the lowly Detroit Pistons, but the victory and that's all. Okay, 1044 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 3: let's get to NBA Weekend Losers, losers, Lee who you. 1045 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 4: Are, Well, I'm staying very close to home here and 1046 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,400 Speaker 4: going with the Atlanta Hawk. This season has gone from 1047 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,920 Speaker 4: being very promising to looking all of a sudden quite 1048 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 4: ugly out there, and it starts with their leader, Trey Young. 1049 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 4: Trey Young has not hit a three point in his 1050 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:24,840 Speaker 4: last two games. In fact, he's only hit one in 1051 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 4: his last three. Now. He did pick up a little 1052 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:30,120 Speaker 4: wrist injury on Saturday night against the Hornets, but he's 1053 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,279 Speaker 4: expected to play tonight, so it's not a significant one. 1054 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 4: But mainly, Trey Young is pouting out there on the court, 1055 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,400 Speaker 4: and I think this has to do with the article 1056 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 4: that came out from the Athletic saying how John Collins 1057 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,440 Speaker 4: kind of called out Trey Young, and I think Trey's 1058 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,319 Speaker 4: response has kind of been like, all right, I'm not 1059 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,680 Speaker 4: gonna try his hard anymore, and that's resulted in him 1060 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,920 Speaker 4: playing badly, shooting badly, not getting to the free throw line, 1061 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,400 Speaker 4: and his body language out on the court has been bad. 1062 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,799 Speaker 4: He looks like he's trying to send a message to 1063 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,239 Speaker 4: whoever his teammates co wis just to say, well, whose 1064 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,240 Speaker 4: team is it? Is it mine or John Collins? Because 1065 00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,239 Speaker 4: if it's not mine, then I'm not going to try hard. 1066 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 4: And that's not what you need from a guy who 1067 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 4: started off this season red hot. I mean that first 1068 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 4: three or four games it was kind of like bab 1069 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,080 Speaker 4: he could be in the MVP conversation. But instead these 1070 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,520 Speaker 4: last few games he has been very, very ordinary, And 1071 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,720 Speaker 4: as I say, it's the performance, it's the body language. 1072 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 4: Against the Hornets, he had twenty two points combined in 1073 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,840 Speaker 4: the two losses. You know, he only took twenty eight shots. 1074 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 4: He went seven for twenty eight from the field, missed 1075 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 4: all his threes, as I said, and only got to 1076 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 4: the free throw line eight times combined in those two games. 1077 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,320 Speaker 4: So the Atlanta Hawks, and not only that the Hawks, 1078 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,719 Speaker 4: this is also a loser of the weekend bogdan Bogdanovich 1079 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,680 Speaker 4: has like some sort of fractured kneecap, so he's going 1080 00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,439 Speaker 4: to be out for some time as well. Here they're 1081 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,000 Speaker 4: already missing a few other guys through injury, Gallinari's out 1082 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 4: or whatever. But those things don't really matter. Gallinari being 1083 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 4: out doesn't really matter because Tree Young is the star, 1084 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,759 Speaker 4: John Collins is a star. They've got still some young 1085 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,719 Speaker 4: talent on this roster, but they're not playing very hard. 1086 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,040 Speaker 4: Some issues within that locker room, and Lloyd Piece needs 1087 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,239 Speaker 4: to figure them out pretty quickly, because, as I say, 1088 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,799 Speaker 4: they were looking very good to stop the season. Now 1089 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,879 Speaker 4: they've dropped their last four and row. They were four 1090 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 4: and one and now they're four and five. So there's 1091 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,359 Speaker 4: some problems there in Atlanta, and they got to silt 1092 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:17,320 Speaker 4: thoze out pretty quickly. 1093 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,759 Speaker 3: How quickly things change here in the NBA from a 1094 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 3: winner of the weekend to a loser of the weekend. 1095 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:23,600 Speaker 3: The Hawks just like that. 1096 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 1: Are you? 1097 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,280 Speaker 3: Are you worried as well, Trey. 1098 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,680 Speaker 1: I'm worried a little bit that Steve Nash is in 1099 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 1: Trey Young's head. Steve Nash said that that's not basketball, 1100 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 1: talking about Trey Young's little move where he gets around somebody, 1101 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 1: then stops and takes a jumper, somebody runs into the 1102 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 1: back of him, and then Trey Young's at the free 1103 00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 1: throw line. Through his first four games, I remember talking 1104 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,360 Speaker 1: about Trey Young has more free throw attempts than the 1105 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,880 Speaker 1: entire Toronto Raptors team. He was putting up fourteen, seventeen fifteen, 1106 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 1: sixteen attempts. Since then four to four he had a 1107 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,280 Speaker 1: fifteen attempt game. Nice, but then three and five. Again, 1108 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,760 Speaker 1: he needs those easy points at the line to score 1109 00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,920 Speaker 1: efficiently because he's going to take some tough shots, no 1110 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 1: doubt about it. I don't know. Steve Nash said, that's 1111 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,880 Speaker 1: not basketball. Trey Young is now playing differently. John Collins said, 1112 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,120 Speaker 1: I need to get the ball nore Trey Young is 1113 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,960 Speaker 1: now playing differently. It's bad vibes in Atlanta right now, 1114 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,239 Speaker 1: is all that. It really feels like you got an 1115 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,400 Speaker 1: injury taking place. You got Danilo was already struggling to 1116 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,480 Speaker 1: stay on the court. Rondo, Chris Dunn, all these guys 1117 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:22,319 Speaker 1: that the Hawks brought on to the point where people 1118 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,239 Speaker 1: are saying, do they have too many players? They don't 1119 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,520 Speaker 1: have enough players right now and their star is not 1120 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,279 Speaker 1: playing like he usually does. Got to snap out of it. 1121 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,319 Speaker 1: It's harder when there's pressure on you. This is the 1122 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,920 Speaker 1: first time the Hawks have had pressure in five seasons, basically, 1123 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 1: and they're wilting under it a little bit right now. 1124 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 1: It's a long season. You gotta steal your mind. You 1125 00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,279 Speaker 1: gotta steal your mind for what's coming, because teams are 1126 00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,239 Speaker 1: not gonna be surprised by the Hawks anymore. They know 1127 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 1: what's coming. They know they gotta play hard now. The 1128 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:47,399 Speaker 1: Hawks have to do as well. 1129 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,120 Speaker 3: In other injury news, my loser the weekend. It's gonna 1130 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 3: go to Wizard Center. Thomas Bryant. He's done for the 1131 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,440 Speaker 3: season due to a torn acl suffered on Saturday night. 1132 00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,319 Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw this one, don't go 1133 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,440 Speaker 3: watch it. It's it's not pretty. It happened two minutes 1134 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,560 Speaker 3: into the Wizards lost to the Heat, and it looked 1135 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,240 Speaker 3: bad at the time. MRI came back on Sunday confirming 1136 00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,359 Speaker 3: the bad news. He's done for the year. This guy 1137 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,359 Speaker 3: is very young, he's twenty three. I assume he's going 1138 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 3: to bounce back. But he was having a obviously a 1139 00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,200 Speaker 3: career year offensively, at least he was averaging fourteen and seven. 1140 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,080 Speaker 3: He was shooting a ridiculous percentage sixty five percent from 1141 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,319 Speaker 3: the field, forty three percent from three and here the 1142 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,400 Speaker 3: Wizards are, what fourth year in a row. Is it 1143 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,759 Speaker 3: like a pretty important player, at least on their roster. 1144 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 3: I'm not saying Thomas Bryant is an All Star All 1145 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 3: NBA guy, but an important piece is out. I mean 1146 00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 3: a long term absence as we know what the John 1147 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 3: Waller's there and stuff like that. So Robin Lopez he's 1148 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:42,640 Speaker 3: going to be starting. Mo Wagner is going to get 1149 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,920 Speaker 3: a chance probably backup minutes, see if he can stay 1150 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 3: on the floor, because he just fouls everybody when he's 1151 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 3: out there. We'll see what they can do. I mean, 1152 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 3: I know Wizards fans are maybe trying to talk themselves 1153 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,000 Speaker 3: into like a best case scenario is the Wizards are 1154 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:58,480 Speaker 3: sacrificing offensive talent in Thomas Bryant for maybe a little 1155 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,279 Speaker 3: more defense in a Lopez or something like that, and 1156 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,120 Speaker 3: maybe that balance helps him pick up some more victories. 1157 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,960 Speaker 3: Maybe they get creative and your guy Tassa Murray Hoch Murray, 1158 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,279 Speaker 3: excuse me, go small ball five or something. Maybe they 1159 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:11,759 Speaker 3: get creative. I don't know if Brooks has that in 1160 00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:15,040 Speaker 3: him to do something like that. But another tough loss, 1161 00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,000 Speaker 3: and I feel bad for Brian again. He was having 1162 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,719 Speaker 3: a he was having a really good offensive year. He's 1163 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:24,200 Speaker 3: not an incredible defensive center, but no one plays defense 1164 00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 3: on the Wizard, so it's uh. And I wouldn't even 1165 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,719 Speaker 3: say he's abysmal by any means. He's probably one of 1166 00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,800 Speaker 3: their better defensive players. So this sucks for the Wizards, 1167 00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:33,800 Speaker 3: who obviously are trying to get wins too, and beals 1168 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,839 Speaker 3: out and Westbrook sort of stinks right now, and it's 1169 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:36,239 Speaker 3: not good. 1170 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,160 Speaker 2: No, not at all. And yeah westbrook is injured, he 1171 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,680 Speaker 2: missed the last game. Beal, who knows when he'll come back. 1172 00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,839 Speaker 2: After having that close conversation with Jason Tatum the day 1173 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,960 Speaker 2: before Jason Tatum was tested positive. Yeah, maybe Scott Brooks 1174 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,759 Speaker 2: goes small like Nick Nurse did with the Raptors last night, 1175 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,479 Speaker 2: said Aaron Bains, you are to the bench, my friend, 1176 00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,440 Speaker 2: Alex Lane, You're to the bench. They're starting ogn and 1177 00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,360 Speaker 2: Obi at the five. Sure, don't I think it can 1178 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,200 Speaker 2: get any worse. I love I love me some Robin Lopez, 1179 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,880 Speaker 2: love me some Lopez brothers. But you know, Robin Lopez 1180 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 2: isn't going to help their defense a lot. He's going 1181 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,279 Speaker 2: to talk out there. He is going to box out 1182 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,000 Speaker 2: his man one hundred percent of the time, one billion 1183 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,279 Speaker 2: percent of the time. Check those box out highlights for 1184 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:21,600 Speaker 2: Robin Lopez. But this is one team that the standings have. 1185 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,520 Speaker 2: I buy into their their start at two and eight. 1186 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 2: A lot of the teams are still in shouting distance 1187 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,600 Speaker 2: from the playoffs. But this team at two and eight, 1188 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,759 Speaker 2: with everything going on, with the way they guard, with 1189 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,719 Speaker 2: getting incredible performances that have to come back to earth 1190 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:40,960 Speaker 2: from Bradley Beal and with Russell Westbrook not finishing at 1191 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:42,880 Speaker 2: the rim like he once upon a time used to, 1192 00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:44,680 Speaker 2: this is a terrible start for. 1193 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,320 Speaker 3: Them, very very bad. What do you got, Trey, excuse 1194 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,120 Speaker 3: me as a loser the NBA weekend? 1195 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,560 Speaker 1: Well, you touched on a little bit, Skeets. It was 1196 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,839 Speaker 1: a bad Sunday Ford to super fans, stump bear snuffles. 1197 00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:55,840 Speaker 3: Both lost. 1198 00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,840 Speaker 1: Bears did not stand a chance after Javon Wims drops 1199 00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 1: a wide open TD in the end zone and the balls. 1200 00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,560 Speaker 1: They lost a heartbreaker to the Clippers. A couple of 1201 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,840 Speaker 1: nights after almost the same exact game against the Lakers, 1202 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,040 Speaker 1: let's rewind Friday. Zach Levine tass you mentioned it, mentioned 1203 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,120 Speaker 1: it in What You Need to Know. The guy is 1204 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,680 Speaker 1: balling right now thirty eight five and six against the Lakers, 1205 00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,680 Speaker 1: but with a chance to take the lead four seconds left, 1206 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,879 Speaker 1: takes a jumper from about nineteen feet off the right wing, 1207 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,600 Speaker 1: misses it. Sunday Levine balling again forty five seven and 1208 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,920 Speaker 1: seven ten threes. It's a huge three to put the 1209 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,960 Speaker 1: balls within one point with seventeen seconds left, But with 1210 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,719 Speaker 1: seven seconds remaining, Zach Levine takes another jumper It's hard 1211 00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,239 Speaker 1: to blame him for taking a jumper on a night 1212 00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,200 Speaker 1: when he's making ten threes, but he airballed this one. 1213 00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,040 Speaker 1: Would have liked to have seen an eleventh make my 1214 00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:47,560 Speaker 1: pure positivity takeaways from the weekend. Though Levine balling career 1215 00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,560 Speaker 1: highs across the board. He is unstoppable. He was cooking 1216 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,359 Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard in this game. But go to the rim, man, 1217 00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,040 Speaker 1: Just go to the rim at the end of a 1218 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,360 Speaker 1: basketball game for once. Three times this week, Zach Levine 1219 00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,040 Speaker 1: has had clutch shots to take. Every time, it's been 1220 00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,280 Speaker 1: the step back jumper, which is I guess more reliable. 1221 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:05,920 Speaker 1: You're gonna at least get the shot up most of 1222 00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,400 Speaker 1: the times, whereas he has had a propensity for turnovers 1223 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,560 Speaker 1: when driving to the hoop at the end of the game. 1224 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,400 Speaker 1: Another takeawy, I would say, Patrick Williams, this guy is 1225 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,880 Speaker 1: legit man. He guarded Lebron on Friday as well as 1226 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:21,600 Speaker 1: a rookie. Can't Lebron said he has Kawhi type hands. 1227 00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,040 Speaker 1: Of course Lebron still had twenty eight, seven and seven. 1228 00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 1: It was a fadeaway fest. It looked like Lebronto again. 1229 00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,520 Speaker 1: There was then they finally started throwing some double teams 1230 00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,759 Speaker 1: at him. He was dishing to wide open things. It 1231 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,600 Speaker 1: was like the perfect Lebron game. He put in minimal 1232 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:38,760 Speaker 1: effort and straight up dominated. Patrick Williams against Kawhi on Sunday. 1233 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,319 Speaker 1: Kwi is too quick for him. You saw that. You 1234 00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,800 Speaker 1: see that Patrick Williams is going to be better against 1235 00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,319 Speaker 1: a bigger wing. But he scored seventeen two and two, 1236 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,600 Speaker 1: played hard and skeets. I can't believe it. I'm in 1237 00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,120 Speaker 1: on moral victories now you asked me about it. The 1238 00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,920 Speaker 1: Bulls had three seasons of just losing and not competing. 1239 00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,200 Speaker 1: Now they're at least competing. They just got to figure 1240 00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,359 Speaker 1: out a way to win, because it's tough to shake 1241 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,080 Speaker 1: that off after three straight years. You saw it on Sunday, 1242 00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,280 Speaker 1: twenty two turnovers, twenty two second chance points against the Clippers. 1243 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,239 Speaker 1: The worst turnover Kobe White, who had a bunch of 1244 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,560 Speaker 1: them thirteen assists but a bunch of turnovers. Ye on Sunday, 1245 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,279 Speaker 1: he runs a switch, gets Lou Williams on him, and 1246 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,880 Speaker 1: Lou Williams rips Kobe White like I don't mind if 1247 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,799 Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard rips you at the top of the key. 1248 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,399 Speaker 1: That guy should be ripping Kobe White at the top 1249 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,000 Speaker 1: of the key. But when it's Lou Williams going the 1250 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,000 Speaker 1: other way, it's a bummer. But they're still a young team. 1251 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:28,640 Speaker 1: They're figuring out how to win. They went one on 1252 00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,000 Speaker 1: one against Portland and Sacramento. They leveled up to the 1253 00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,799 Speaker 1: LA teams and competed, but they still went zero and two. 1254 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,359 Speaker 1: It's a bummer. The Bulls were four and four. I 1255 00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,160 Speaker 1: was on top of the world. It felt like the 1256 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,840 Speaker 1: finals again. And they've lost all three since then. But 1257 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,040 Speaker 1: they're playing hard moral victories twenty twenty one. Who would have. 1258 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:46,800 Speaker 4: Thought that is important? 1259 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:46,960 Speaker 2: Though. 1260 00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:48,400 Speaker 4: I think they're for the Bulls that they're not just 1261 00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,960 Speaker 4: getting blown out like they were last year where and 1262 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:52,880 Speaker 4: that started the season. I would like that here, But 1263 00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:56,280 Speaker 4: instead Billy Donovan has got them at least competing, staying 1264 00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,000 Speaker 4: in games. Now it's just like, okay, now you have 1265 00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,240 Speaker 4: to finish these games off. But you're coming up against 1266 00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,520 Speaker 4: two teams with good finishers, you know, in the Clippers 1267 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,759 Speaker 4: and the Lakers, and I think that's what stands out here. 1268 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,799 Speaker 4: But Zack Lavine, you mentioned that trade. He's just on 1269 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,000 Speaker 4: fire right now, almost a fifty forty ninety guys. He's 1270 00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,240 Speaker 4: just not quite there for all of them, but shooting 1271 00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,080 Speaker 4: with confidence and leading that team. I just wonder what 1272 00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:16,520 Speaker 4: do the Bulls do with him? Do they keep him 1273 00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:18,200 Speaker 4: he's a young player still, or do you look to 1274 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:19,760 Speaker 4: sort of maybe trade him because I think you can 1275 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,360 Speaker 4: get some decent value out of him. I think there'd 1276 00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,760 Speaker 4: be a lot of teams would love Zack Lavine right 1277 00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,360 Speaker 4: now because he's really showed, you know, his game has 1278 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,080 Speaker 4: improved so much. He's not the finished product. 1279 00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:30,640 Speaker 2: But fire up the trade machine. 1280 00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,480 Speaker 4: Well, I'm trying to I'm trying to get him to Portland. 1281 00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,800 Speaker 3: I'm wanting everybody to Portland. 1282 00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,840 Speaker 4: Because I just sort of feel Portland this is almost 1283 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,080 Speaker 4: like their last chance Saloon. So I think they need 1284 00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:42,840 Speaker 4: another score out there to take a little bit of 1285 00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:44,200 Speaker 4: the heat off Dame and CJ. 1286 00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,200 Speaker 2: But yeah, last chance to loon. I mean he is, 1287 00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,680 Speaker 2: he's from Seattle's kind of close. Maybe he'll like it. 1288 00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,520 Speaker 3: Wait, yeah, what did you say last chance saloon? 1289 00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:55,800 Speaker 4: Well, I think I think with the Blazers, I just 1290 00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,440 Speaker 4: feel that that that backcourt is kind of like But 1291 00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,919 Speaker 4: I'm asking what you spcifically last chance saloon? Yeah? 1292 00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,320 Speaker 3: Is that a reference from something I'm not picking up that's. 1293 00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,080 Speaker 4: You know, when it's like this is the last time 1294 00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,040 Speaker 4: this is you've never heard Last Chance Saloon? No, I 1295 00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,040 Speaker 4: think it's from a cartoon, isn't it from the other one? 1296 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:15,240 Speaker 4: Ask believe you didn't watch the Looney Tunes back in 1297 00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:20,640 Speaker 4: the day, man, Yeah, you're a big TV watching. I 1298 00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:22,800 Speaker 4: just yeah, I just I just sort of feel Portland 1299 00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:24,560 Speaker 4: to sort of at some point going to have to 1300 00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,840 Speaker 4: do something there, you know, And I think I think Levigne. 1301 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,040 Speaker 4: You know, I probably would prefer a bigger guy, but 1302 00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,680 Speaker 4: I think as in a forward or a power forward. 1303 00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,160 Speaker 4: But I think I think Levigne could work on that team. 1304 00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:37,680 Speaker 4: If you have three you want. 1305 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:41,160 Speaker 3: Some defense on the Blazers, I mean exact Levine. 1306 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:45,160 Speaker 4: Well, no, no, no, no, he's not bad. He's not bad. 1307 00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:45,480 Speaker 1: Let's not. 1308 00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he's he could improve, he could improve, 1309 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,120 Speaker 4: for sure, but he's there's there's worst defenders out there. 1310 00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:57,240 Speaker 4: It's not a Jose Colder by any beans. That's awful. 1311 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:00,480 Speaker 3: Why are we talking. 1312 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:06,000 Speaker 2: About who's I got to mention this because Trey mentioned, 1313 00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,520 Speaker 2: you know, playing up Kawhi on Sunday Plus you talk 1314 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,400 Speaker 2: defense talking hands as well. Did you see this from 1315 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,600 Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Clippers on their Twitter account. 1316 00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,720 Speaker 3: For Wow, what's trippy? 1317 00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is trippy. I actually, you know, I thought 1318 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:24,040 Speaker 2: about it, and I'm like, is holding two water bottles 1319 00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,200 Speaker 2: all that impressive? What we're looking at here? But I 1320 00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:27,600 Speaker 2: don't know. It's just Kawhi's hands. 1321 00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:29,520 Speaker 3: I am well, just how they rap around? 1322 00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, rap is crazy. 1323 00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:34,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, the middle finger. It's getting a lot of coverage here. 1324 00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:39,400 Speaker 2: Go to the Clippers Twitter account and see Kawhi just 1325 00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:43,680 Speaker 2: handling these water bottles. Anything Kawhi Hans. I am enthralled. 1326 00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,800 Speaker 2: I'm surprised there's not a huge Kawhi Hans Twitter account. 1327 00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:51,040 Speaker 2: It's probably probably one that's like got three hundred four 1328 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,440 Speaker 2: one hundred followers, but it hasn't really exploded. 1329 00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,760 Speaker 3: But but anytime like a photo of Kawai's hands doing something, 1330 00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,680 Speaker 3: shaking somebody's hands, I guess boban similar too, right, it 1331 01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:04,400 Speaker 3: feels like people just get excited all over again. 1332 01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:05,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely right. 1333 01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,760 Speaker 3: I remember, you know was bugging me. There was at 1334 01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:12,120 Speaker 3: one point there was like photos of guys I forget 1335 01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:15,400 Speaker 3: who it was, particularly like drinking gatorade bottles, and the 1336 01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:19,400 Speaker 3: gatorade bottle looked so small in their hands. But then 1337 01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:21,960 Speaker 3: we found out like the gatory bottle was smaller than 1338 01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:27,160 Speaker 3: it's like, oh okay, well, no wonder it looks so 1339 01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:30,840 Speaker 3: tidy because it is smaller. But anyway, all right, who 1340 01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:32,920 Speaker 3: who we haven't got here? Oh? Tests a loser of 1341 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:33,840 Speaker 3: the weekend? Who you got? 1342 01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:37,320 Speaker 2: Well, they had a horrendous weekend. It was not fun 1343 01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:41,480 Speaker 2: for them. Started Thursday against the Nette Seth Curry sitting 1344 01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,080 Speaker 2: on the bench. He's not playing, but at the end 1345 01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:45,600 Speaker 2: of the first quarter, towards the end of the first quarter, 1346 01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,840 Speaker 2: he is told, hey, I get to the back. You've 1347 01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:52,800 Speaker 2: contracted a positive coronavirus test. And then so Friday, because 1348 01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,200 Speaker 2: they're on the road in Brooklyn, the Sixers had to 1349 01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:59,160 Speaker 2: spend all day in their hotel getting tested, and the 1350 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,520 Speaker 2: only only time they were allowed to open that door 1351 01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:04,440 Speaker 2: was for room service or for getting their test on. 1352 01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:07,720 Speaker 2: So they left eleven pm that night and then got 1353 01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:11,120 Speaker 2: to Philly one am that day, and then had an 1354 01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:15,160 Speaker 2: early start the next day against the Denver Nuggets when 1355 01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:19,800 Speaker 2: they played seven guys dressed eight only played seven playing 1356 01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:25,320 Speaker 2: guys by the name of Dakota Matthias, Isaiah Joe, Isaiah Joe. 1357 01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:27,520 Speaker 2: He's going to be a player and Tyrese Maxey, who 1358 01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:30,440 Speaker 2: was absolutely phenomenal, the rookie out of Kentucky twenty one 1359 01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:34,160 Speaker 2: pick at thirty nine, Big ones. Yeah, just thrust into 1360 01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:37,440 Speaker 2: the lineup there. Now, it wasn't just because of contact 1361 01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,400 Speaker 2: tracing with Seth Curry, but they're banged up as well, 1362 01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,440 Speaker 2: and that's the scary part, Duck River said. Actually the 1363 01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,320 Speaker 2: injuries are even worse because they are to their best players. 1364 01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,880 Speaker 2: Ben Simmons won't be playing against the Hawks on Monday 1365 01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,560 Speaker 2: because of a knee issue, but it seems like some 1366 01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,000 Speaker 2: of these guys are coming back from the contact tracing. 1367 01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:56,760 Speaker 2: Joel Embiid probable on Monday. But they play five and 1368 01:01:56,800 --> 01:02:00,240 Speaker 2: seven games here, so it's they go from its team 1369 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,320 Speaker 2: that was seven and one, best record in the league 1370 01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:05,360 Speaker 2: to losing against a shorthanded NETS team on Thursday when 1371 01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,080 Speaker 2: they had most of their guys. Now they're not gonna 1372 01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,320 Speaker 2: have Seth Curry for a while, They're not gonna have 1373 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,560 Speaker 2: Ben Simmons at least tonight, and I think Tobias Harris 1374 01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,360 Speaker 2: and other guys are up in the air. So it's yeah, 1375 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,360 Speaker 2: it was. It wasn't a fun day on Friday. They 1376 01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:22,040 Speaker 2: all missed their their rest day and all that sitting. 1377 01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,160 Speaker 2: I guess they were resting, but they weren't getting their 1378 01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:28,320 Speaker 2: their their usual maintenance done to them. So yeah, a 1379 01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,720 Speaker 2: bad weekend for them. And it's it's turned and I 1380 01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:34,200 Speaker 2: wonder when the heck these guys come back. The thing 1381 01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,680 Speaker 2: is and being misses one game but should be back tonight. 1382 01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,320 Speaker 2: You just got to check the report an hour before 1383 01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,040 Speaker 2: the game, don't don't buy into it the day before. 1384 01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:46,040 Speaker 2: Things are always changing with these contact tracing reports. 1385 01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:49,520 Speaker 3: Brian Windhorse on his podcast, I was listening to it 1386 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,000 Speaker 3: right before we jumped on here was it was a 1387 01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:55,600 Speaker 3: little skeptical about the injuries to Ben Simmons and Joelle Embiid. 1388 01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:57,840 Speaker 3: He thought they were a little, uh, the timing of 1389 01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,960 Speaker 3: those issues were strange, and that they weren't playing in 1390 01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:04,680 Speaker 3: that game where they obviously were shorthanded already to begin with. 1391 01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:07,200 Speaker 3: I don't think I'm putting words in Brian wins Horse's mouth, 1392 01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,120 Speaker 3: but he was like, well, what they just played and 1393 01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,600 Speaker 3: then suddenly they're injured, and why, What's what's going on? 1394 01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:15,720 Speaker 2: I get, yeah, everybody was sort of skeptical. Yeah, and 1395 01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:18,959 Speaker 2: there's a lot of skepticism around that game. But why 1396 01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:22,280 Speaker 2: is Benson is not playing tonight if he's not, so 1397 01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,240 Speaker 2: that's the weird thing. Yeah, and Kendra Andrews has a 1398 01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:28,440 Speaker 2: great article on the Art The Athletic about Denver and 1399 01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,640 Speaker 2: Philly and whether or not they should have played at all, 1400 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,400 Speaker 2: and she feels that they shouldn't have in the first place. 1401 01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:35,400 Speaker 2: And it sure seemed like Doc Rivers was in that 1402 01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,840 Speaker 2: boat too, but he had enough bodies, so you went, well, 1403 01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,000 Speaker 2: he sort of did. That's the strange thing. They kind 1404 01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,280 Speaker 2: of had enough bodies, but they didn't have enough bodies. 1405 01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:46,000 Speaker 3: But do you think Doc Rivers should be allowed to 1406 01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:47,040 Speaker 3: play in these games? 1407 01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:48,680 Speaker 4: You might as well? 1408 01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, soon, give me a couple of point guard minutes. 1409 01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:53,920 Speaker 3: All right, Well, we got to take a break to 1410 01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:55,720 Speaker 3: hear from our sponsors. We will get to tweet the night, 1411 01:03:55,840 --> 01:04:00,400 Speaker 3: but first, so new to the mix here, all right, 1412 01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:01,919 Speaker 3: let's get to tweet of the night. 1413 01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:05,000 Speaker 2: Tweet of the night. 1414 01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:11,680 Speaker 3: Wow, JD with a Monday tweet of the night. 1415 01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:14,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, weird, right, It's good because I have the whole 1416 01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:18,280 Speaker 5: weekend to find a tweet, but I did. I'm doing 1417 01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,720 Speaker 5: what I did last week, which was just take your suggestions. 1418 01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:21,080 Speaker 1: Keets. 1419 01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:26,160 Speaker 5: Oh, as we know the Celtics heat game was postponed 1420 01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:29,240 Speaker 5: last night, but you know, we worked in the biz, 1421 01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:32,600 Speaker 5: we're TV people at one time, and the show must 1422 01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,400 Speaker 5: go on. So they went ahead with their pregame show, 1423 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,560 Speaker 5: and the host of the show, Abby Chin over at 1424 01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:42,600 Speaker 5: NBC Sports Boston, just did what we usually do, hop 1425 01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,880 Speaker 5: on Twitter to promote the show. And here's the tweet. 1426 01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:49,800 Speaker 5: We'll have Christ on the Celtics a pre game live 1427 01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:54,080 Speaker 5: at six tonight. Just a hilarious typo tweet. But you know, 1428 01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,320 Speaker 5: I'm not a religious guy. 1429 01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:57,040 Speaker 1: But. 1430 01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:02,240 Speaker 5: You know, Jesus Christ Star's my favorite musical. But that's 1431 01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:05,160 Speaker 5: about it. Like I'm not really just but you're not 1432 01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:12,960 Speaker 5: tuning it for Christ? Can you imagine after two thousand years? Finally, 1433 01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:16,280 Speaker 5: so this summer we've had, the year we've had, Christ 1434 01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:21,640 Speaker 5: returns and he decides to return at the pregame Celtics 1435 01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:26,800 Speaker 5: show on NBC Sports. I mean, first of all, that 1436 01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,800 Speaker 5: would be just hilarious. God has a sense of humor 1437 01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:34,480 Speaker 5: a but also it would validate my career path that 1438 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:38,080 Speaker 5: I find myself on, Like this path that I'm on 1439 01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,600 Speaker 5: is the right way to go, Thank you Jesus. 1440 01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,520 Speaker 3: Also, yeah, twice is funny because he would be returning 1441 01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,480 Speaker 3: for a pregame Celtic show where there is no Celtics 1442 01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:50,000 Speaker 3: game actually. 1443 01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,040 Speaker 4: Preview, yeahs and magic and get it the game. 1444 01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:56,520 Speaker 3: You put him on the spot, and Abby did, of course, 1445 01:05:56,600 --> 01:06:00,439 Speaker 3: quickly correct herself, saying, sorry, it's not Christ it's Chris 1446 01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:01,320 Speaker 3: mannix of S. 1447 01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:06,360 Speaker 1: I also a good get Yeah, Hey, yeah. 1448 01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,800 Speaker 3: Hey, absolutely absolutely, that's great. 1449 01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:10,080 Speaker 2: All right. 1450 01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,440 Speaker 3: I'm glad you went with that one. Jad tweeted the 1451 01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:15,800 Speaker 3: night to Abby Chin, Okay, pick them results from Friday night. 1452 01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:17,600 Speaker 3: We're going all the way back to Friday just quickly. 1453 01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:17,840 Speaker 2: Here. 1454 01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,600 Speaker 3: It was the Bulls Lakers game. Lakers were favored by 1455 01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:23,360 Speaker 3: eight and a half. Trey, you talked me into it, 1456 01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:25,280 Speaker 3: my man. You said, hey, Bulls are going to keep 1457 01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:26,640 Speaker 3: this close. They may not win it, but they're gonna 1458 01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:28,000 Speaker 3: keep this close. And they did. It was like a 1459 01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,040 Speaker 3: two point game or something like that. So that's a 1460 01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:33,520 Speaker 3: victory for Trey and myself. Task and Lee had the 1461 01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:35,919 Speaker 3: Lakers win big, So that's a loss. I'm six and five. 1462 01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:38,600 Speaker 3: Task is five and five, just like every other team 1463 01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:40,320 Speaker 3: in the NBA. And then we got Trey and Lee 1464 01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:43,720 Speaker 3: at four and seven. We've done eleven games here, but 1465 01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,320 Speaker 3: I don't know what's they're on tonight task right now, 1466 01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:48,200 Speaker 3: it is like eight games on, So what's our game? 1467 01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:52,680 Speaker 2: Well, the Toronto Raptors continue that West coast trip. They're 1468 01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:55,440 Speaker 2: sitting are to it. Yeah, they're sitting at two and seven. 1469 01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:58,800 Speaker 2: I'ming off a back to back playing the Golden State Wars. 1470 01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:02,520 Speaker 2: Then they got a flat Portland Zach Lavine's next team, 1471 01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:05,200 Speaker 2: just kidding, he's not going there. But the Blazers they're 1472 01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:07,880 Speaker 2: sitting at home, they're rested, so they're favored by five 1473 01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:13,160 Speaker 2: and a half points against the Toronto Rappers. I'd say 1474 01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:17,680 Speaker 2: good size spread. Raptors can still lose a game. It's 1475 01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,360 Speaker 2: not coin flipped by any means, So skeet start us off. 1476 01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:23,040 Speaker 3: That's what's tough. This one is tough because the Raptors, 1477 01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:26,040 Speaker 3: as we talked about, they're playing better. They are, which 1478 01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:28,280 Speaker 3: isn't saying a whole lot because they were absolutely Garber's 1479 01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:31,000 Speaker 3: start a season when they are playing better, and the 1480 01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:34,600 Speaker 3: Blazers have not really impressed. But they're the rest of 1481 01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:37,680 Speaker 3: team here. It's only five and a half. But do 1482 01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:40,040 Speaker 3: I pick against the Raps again? No, I'm going Toronto tonight. 1483 01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,840 Speaker 3: Give me the Toronto Raptors to cover at the very least, 1484 01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:46,360 Speaker 3: maybe even pull out the victory because the defense has 1485 01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:49,800 Speaker 3: come around a little bit, so I think that could 1486 01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:51,800 Speaker 3: keep it close at the very least. 1487 01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:53,919 Speaker 2: I'll go raps Trey, what do you think? 1488 01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:58,280 Speaker 1: Such a tough question? Is it the last chance saloon 1489 01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:02,440 Speaker 1: or the last chance halloon? Really makes you think? 1490 01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:07,240 Speaker 3: That's why I was confused because I said that, and 1491 01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:09,000 Speaker 3: I'm like, what did we say? Yeah? 1492 01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:13,520 Speaker 1: Right? So is this is this the raptors last chance 1493 01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:16,439 Speaker 1: to loon tonight? I don't know they shut down Steph Curry. 1494 01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:20,160 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily know that the Blazers, if Damian Lillard 1495 01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:23,000 Speaker 1: is taken out of this game, have somebody else outside 1496 01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,400 Speaker 1: from CJ obviously who will get some buckets, but somebody 1497 01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:27,920 Speaker 1: that can really crush the Raptors inside which seems to 1498 01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:31,240 Speaker 1: be a place where they are crushable. Give me the Raptors. 1499 01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:32,800 Speaker 1: I'm with you, skeats. 1500 01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:35,120 Speaker 2: Lee, what do you think? 1501 01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:40,559 Speaker 4: It's tough? It's tough. That's that line is right at 1502 01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,600 Speaker 4: the line where you're like, oh, is that enough? I 1503 01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:45,720 Speaker 4: think the Blazers win this game, and I think this 1504 01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:47,360 Speaker 4: is going to be the last game for the Raptors 1505 01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:48,680 Speaker 4: road for if it feels like they've been on the 1506 01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:49,280 Speaker 4: road for the river. 1507 01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:50,719 Speaker 3: Well they're on the road forever. 1508 01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:52,559 Speaker 2: They don't, that's right. 1509 01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:55,439 Speaker 4: Yeah. Now they could be resilient and just give it 1510 01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:57,880 Speaker 4: all in the last game. Oh, they could let go 1511 01:08:57,960 --> 01:08:59,800 Speaker 4: of the rope a little bit off too tough games, 1512 01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:03,960 Speaker 4: So I'll take the plizes. Uh, well, he keeps a ship, 1513 01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:05,639 Speaker 4: why not. Yeah, that's nice. 1514 01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:09,720 Speaker 3: Attitude. 1515 01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:16,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder if Nick Nurse gives a ship. I 1516 01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,920 Speaker 2: think he does. I think he starts Aaron Baines to 1517 01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:22,240 Speaker 2: play against Houston Kit after last night going small. You 1518 01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:24,720 Speaker 2: gotta play ner. He can't play NRK with Ogn and 1519 01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,200 Speaker 2: Obi five, so you go back to Aaron bains I 1520 01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:30,400 Speaker 2: like that for the sake of their just their legs. 1521 01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:32,559 Speaker 2: At least you have to play a center. Get some 1522 01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:35,599 Speaker 2: more guys playing on back to back. But I agree 1523 01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:37,960 Speaker 2: with Trade that what Nick Nurse does is take away 1524 01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:40,360 Speaker 2: the team's best player. He does it every stinking night. 1525 01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:43,680 Speaker 2: That's his thing. So I think, yeah, I worry even 1526 01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:46,320 Speaker 2: though CJ. Mccollms having a great year, do they have enough? 1527 01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:48,759 Speaker 2: I say no. I say the Raps keep it close 1528 01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:52,200 Speaker 2: at the very least, and there they're gonna pull out 1529 01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:54,719 Speaker 2: a freaking up here, it's there, it's there, it's common, 1530 01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:55,280 Speaker 2: it's gone. 1531 01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:57,559 Speaker 4: Well, they got they got the one against the Kings there, 1532 01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:01,080 Speaker 4: which was a blowout for the rap It's the Kings. 1533 01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:04,720 Speaker 3: It's a little different. It's a little different. Okay, So 1534 01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:07,800 Speaker 3: three of us taking the Raptors to cover Blazers are 1535 01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:09,000 Speaker 3: favored by five and a half. They got to win 1536 01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,200 Speaker 3: by six or more and that's who Lee is taking. 1537 01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:14,800 Speaker 3: So good luck to everybody. Joy the games tonight. We'll 1538 01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:17,880 Speaker 3: be back tomorrow with Tassa's Early Morning What you need 1539 01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:19,760 Speaker 3: to Know. Then we'll have the Daily Show. I think 1540 01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,400 Speaker 3: we might have a little special guest in store for 1541 01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:25,000 Speaker 3: tomorrow's podcast. 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