WEBVTT - OBN JAY - The Bacon Sandwich

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<v Speaker 1>Why it was namous Obi and j R. Harman. Today

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<v Speaker 1>we even while I broke your heard me with Coco

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<v Speaker 1>and we got Dorito's bread bacon. We make a bacon

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<v Speaker 1>sandwiches about the show y'all High Woods when I was

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<v Speaker 1>broken brom nice and this reminds me of like would

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<v Speaker 1>i'd imagine my little brother ate after school to be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>like super simple when you when I see anything red

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<v Speaker 1>or chips, gang some cyrial, I was actually thinking you

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<v Speaker 1>were gonna go for cereal. But um, but I'm excited

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<v Speaker 1>to eat some bacon. The last time I eat bacon

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<v Speaker 1>was a long time ago. I think now I just

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<v Speaker 1>buy a turkey bacon, so cook me, feed me. So

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<v Speaker 1>some people don't know how to work it, I know

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<v Speaker 1>how to Rookie. I feel like you're a real cook

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<v Speaker 1>because when we were talking earlier too, it's just like

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<v Speaker 1>you're so comfortable. I know what I'm doing. So what's

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<v Speaker 1>your backstory? It wasn't a real cook. But when I

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<v Speaker 1>was growing up, my mama had a stroke when I

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<v Speaker 1>was about ten. She actually had two when I was

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<v Speaker 1>ten and like thirteen, so I couldn't. I had to

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<v Speaker 1>fix up. I had to, really, I had to like

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<v Speaker 1>bathe the feed up, all kinds of stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I didn't really know how to cook. But I

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<v Speaker 1>got an older brother and the older sister who did

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more. But when it came to me,

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<v Speaker 1>it was baking bread. You know what I'm saying, all right?

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<v Speaker 1>And this was like this like after school dish or

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<v Speaker 1>just around the clock dish. This was if I'm hungry. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>probably like autter school or someth because at school, I

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<v Speaker 1>probably ate breakfast or something. You know that the schools

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<v Speaker 1>had free breakfast and ship but really one of those

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<v Speaker 1>that loaded up on the free sereal or mm hmmm, nah,

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<v Speaker 1>because my appetite when I was when I was going on,

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<v Speaker 1>my appetite was just my appetites Tuesday still like I

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<v Speaker 1>eat this a little bit, so I wouldn't greet you

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<v Speaker 1>or nothing, because I couldn't eat at home, but I

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<v Speaker 1>make sure I eating stuff taking home and I see

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<v Speaker 1>what's what they got next. Whatever. However, so when was

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<v Speaker 1>the last time you made this dish for yourself? It's

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<v Speaker 1>been years years, but it ain't been that many years though,

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<v Speaker 1>probably high school. Like I was in high school, I graduated,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, but when did you get your like your

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<v Speaker 1>first start on like your music career. I started recording

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<v Speaker 1>when I was seventeen years old, so and then a

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<v Speaker 1>year after that, I just worked. I worked work for

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<v Speaker 1>a whole Australia. You didn't have straight I got signed

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<v Speaker 1>like November tween the eighteen to Columbia Records. So and

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<v Speaker 1>how did you get how did you go from rapping?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing like in your your friends right, and then

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<v Speaker 1>how did you get to Columbia? Like how does Columbia

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<v Speaker 1>get a hold of your music? From bad Ridge um? Columbia?

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<v Speaker 1>They like discovered me on YouTube. A lot of my

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<v Speaker 1>stuff was going viral, million's reviews and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>By time I was signed, already had like ten or

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen million views, like just streams without the label, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it just went viral unexpected. I ain't even think it would.

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<v Speaker 1>I just shot videos. I started like taking the series

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<v Speaker 1>like then let me try to step out. So they

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<v Speaker 1>see this video and they immediately just reach out to you.

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<v Speaker 1>They reach out all the label I took a trip

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<v Speaker 1>to New York and me were like ten and labels

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I'm gonna just go with Clump

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<v Speaker 1>And what'd your parents say? Well, all this is going on.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't know what the same mom. They was just

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<v Speaker 1>like all right, because damn really they wasn't into music,

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<v Speaker 1>Like they weren't not really for it for real. I

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<v Speaker 1>ain't gonna say they wasn't really for it, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was a surprise. I wasn't even tell the moms and pops. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I I grew up in a single home, so moms,

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<v Speaker 1>but I talked about pops too. We got a good relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>But I wasn't telling her like when I leave a house,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to the studio. It was just going I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to picture. What does the studio look like?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this like a studio at your friend's house or

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<v Speaker 1>like like an actual studio. It was a studio in

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<v Speaker 1>my friend's house. He had a studio. He had a

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<v Speaker 1>too speakers and a microphone set up in one of

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<v Speaker 1>his rooms in his house. And he made he actually

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<v Speaker 1>like uh he actually like um a platinum producer right now.

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<v Speaker 1>We both like started like in his house and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But he uh, he actually got some success too, but

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<v Speaker 1>but started yeah, and he's like I probably still got

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<v Speaker 1>videos in my phone to us making one of my

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<v Speaker 1>hits in the crib yeah, like he's like my first

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<v Speaker 1>couple of songs that started blowing up. They came out

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<v Speaker 1>of his carib I'm gonna just wait on. So he

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<v Speaker 1>you both weren't like yeah, we both were just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a pushing for a dream. Now. Do you guys

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<v Speaker 1>still clap? Yeah? Yeah, we just Uh. I had my

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<v Speaker 1>first arena showing Baton Rouge just past three days ago,

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<v Speaker 1>like three days ago, first ever and we uh he

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<v Speaker 1>came out and support came performed with me and Stiff

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<v Speaker 1>because all my songs that's hits, he produced them. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>we both like, you know, yeah, Chris James. This name

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<v Speaker 1>is Chris James, probably like five six years older than you,

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<v Speaker 1>probably about four five years older than me. So would

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<v Speaker 1>you consider him like a mentor? Did you have mentors? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Not really? He uh he helped me with certain things.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, like we help each other though, because

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<v Speaker 1>I mean sometimes you look at me like Bertie did

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<v Speaker 1>your thing, like hold up what I should do? And

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<v Speaker 1>I give him? We both we feet ot. We we

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<v Speaker 1>ment to each other for for real, like we help

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<v Speaker 1>each other whatever. You know. So you were first record

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<v Speaker 1>deal on two thousand and eighteen. You're not currently fine

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<v Speaker 1>to Columbia. Correct, No, with Empire you Yeah, so was

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<v Speaker 1>there like a pivot or like something crazy to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious what happened. Uh, well, honestly it was. It

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<v Speaker 1>really wasn't any too crazy. Columbia just was behind all time.

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<v Speaker 1>The way I said my deal up was we should

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<v Speaker 1>drop by this amount of time. If not, you owe

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<v Speaker 1>me anything. It used to at that up like that

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<v Speaker 1>what my lawyer did. Yeah, my lawyers that, and you

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<v Speaker 1>had people people are also coming at you, so you

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<v Speaker 1>can kind of control that, right, Yeah, And everybody wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>agreeing to that. So that's why in Columbia was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, that's cool, okay. And then so it

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<v Speaker 1>was easy to get out to deal if they didn't perform, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>like okay, we ain't gonna give you this, but we

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<v Speaker 1>don't let you continue your career and everything I got,

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<v Speaker 1>my masters and all that. They ain't interfering with it

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<v Speaker 1>and nothing like that. So a little bad blood Columbia's

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<v Speaker 1>still rock with him. It's all good. But I'm with

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<v Speaker 1>Empire now. So that's that's the team. How does someone

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<v Speaker 1>from your background, you don't have any music business experience

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<v Speaker 1>elevate to overnight. A. Um. It took me feeling real

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<v Speaker 1>or something going out the way I thought it would go,

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<v Speaker 1>like come, let'ta bea I thought it alright, cool, it's up,

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<v Speaker 1>like I ain't with about men. I know I got

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<v Speaker 1>the support. It didn't go like that I already had.

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking I either the label for support when

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<v Speaker 1>I already had fifteen and streaming when I got signed.

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<v Speaker 1>I was I was young though, you know, so this

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and eight was music distribution. It was still

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<v Speaker 1>heavinly Le Digital at that time, right, yes, so you

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<v Speaker 1>really didn't even need them for a distribution I made.

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<v Speaker 1>I made a super I made a wrong decision. I

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<v Speaker 1>did because Empire actually gave Match the same deal with Columbia.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I want to be major. It didn't

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<v Speaker 1>make sense. But now can you explain to everybody who

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<v Speaker 1>listening to the difference that you learned between major and independence? Yes, Major,

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<v Speaker 1>you know all your masters or nothing like that. Distribution

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<v Speaker 1>is just you know, they give you funds to put

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<v Speaker 1>out whatever you distribute and through them like like marketing

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<v Speaker 1>or studio signed. But that both okay, it's actually both.

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<v Speaker 1>In the advance, yeah, it's everything. It's everything. A label.

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<v Speaker 1>Dou is just but there's no record stores now like

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<v Speaker 1>when I was younger, you know you would get distributions. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're wearing Walmart wherever. So now the question is this,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hate to be the devil for the record labels,

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<v Speaker 1>is like, what role are you really playing when you

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<v Speaker 1>have an artist like yourself that has this yeah and

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<v Speaker 1>can sell his own music and fill his own show

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<v Speaker 1>the seats at his shows, like, um, some artists maybe

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<v Speaker 1>be needing the bag sometimes and then some artists be

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<v Speaker 1>getting the results. And then some artists do us for

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<v Speaker 1>different reasons. I feel like sometimes every they don't every

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<v Speaker 1>art and then a lot of these artists I feel like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't gonna say I feel like because that's very opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>But a lot of people tell me like I'm one

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<v Speaker 1>of the smartest guys, like young guys, don't safe that

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<v Speaker 1>just that's doing music because I don't know just I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be thinking different. I'd be thinking like this, does this

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<v Speaker 1>make sense business business wise and all that. I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>like it, actually think about that type of stuff. Some

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<v Speaker 1>people do it fuss money, you might get a two

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<v Speaker 1>all events. They ain't worry about if their music blow

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, dang, I was just broke my problem. But

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<v Speaker 1>now the two hundred thousand all about back right through

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<v Speaker 1>your Well what impart is very simple? A is uh,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever music you distribute, that's the only way they can

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<v Speaker 1>get their money back from you. Oh not shows, not shows,

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<v Speaker 1>not none of that. Yeah, do we hear that in

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<v Speaker 1>your music? Like your business stuff? Are you not? Really?

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<v Speaker 1>But you here? You here hot intelligent. I don't people

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<v Speaker 1>be like, man, you're different. You do you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you'll ever go that route of breaking down the map

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<v Speaker 1>on because that's a that's a huge story, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I always see the rappers and I even seen in

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<v Speaker 1>your videos like you showcase all from the money and stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but the behind the scenes is also so

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<v Speaker 1>important that to see that you're managing their own career,

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<v Speaker 1>paying attention, not any mortal question and Carter here, okay

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<v Speaker 1>for management. But at first it was a lot. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's I was doing it all by myself, so it

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<v Speaker 1>was way harder. I would say it was way harder,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was way more like um, it was way

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<v Speaker 1>more learning process. I got all my experience from like

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<v Speaker 1>just doing it alone going wrong, like still not because

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<v Speaker 1>you know when you do. You are altaist. You really

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<v Speaker 1>got too much management power to make power move you

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<v Speaker 1>just the artist, And it's easy for somebody in position

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<v Speaker 1>to say nah when going your way. So what do

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<v Speaker 1>you do with your first sex? I got me a

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<v Speaker 1>place to love. I help my mom got with which

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<v Speaker 1>she needed. Uh not a fact, That's really what I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I held my I bought me a car. I carried

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<v Speaker 1>it out on the car. What kind of car? Mustang?

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<v Speaker 1>It was funny seven, it was funny eight thing. I

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<v Speaker 1>bought a twenty eight team convertible Mustang. Um, I heard

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<v Speaker 1>my mama take a She got a massive degree to

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<v Speaker 1>be in college, but he couldn't really afford it, like

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<v Speaker 1>for for and she needed money for this test and

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<v Speaker 1>I gave her some money and she asked to graduated college.

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<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. Yeah, that's amazing. How do you feel feel good?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I don't feel like you no other way.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I don't. I ain't really bragg him, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like That's what I posted through Connor.

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<v Speaker 1>She would have did it for me. So do you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like people arrived as an artist? Arriving? Still arriving,

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<v Speaker 1>still arriving like there's more miles songs you'd like to hit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you hit some of the major ones already. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I did a couple of things, but not a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of things. What would you say is the hardest? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just had my first arena show, you know, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>how many people are about for a thogo when you

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<v Speaker 1>feel it? Yeah? Wow, that's amazing. Did you have other

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<v Speaker 1>people on the show with you? Yeah? Right, Way was

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<v Speaker 1>on the show. He was actually the headline for real,

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<v Speaker 1>for real. But the feedback I'm getting like I had

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<v Speaker 1>a real good stew I'm gonna just say that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the feedback I'm getting I had a really show. So

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<v Speaker 1>what was like the hardest things? And you had to go,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry the smoke. You know, what's the hardest thing

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<v Speaker 1>you have to go through so far in your career? Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to manage myself, I was saying, trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>moves myself. That's probably the hardest thing. Would you say,

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<v Speaker 1>thank your hardest, sorry guys, your hardest um smile phones,

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<v Speaker 1>or your in your career or in your personal? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's in my career trying to managine myself, but um,

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<v Speaker 1>my heart is probably personal because I'm still human. Your

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<v Speaker 1>career always go work. I could be big tomorrow, like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting support, so I ain't never don't too much

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<v Speaker 1>be like I'm grateful. Just oh dagn this ain't working

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<v Speaker 1>right now because I see the process. I see him

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<v Speaker 1>getting big every day. I don't really be triggering, but

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<v Speaker 1>like probably personally, like, can you give us like an example, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like my well, my mama she more, she ain't more healthier,

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<v Speaker 1>but like my pops, he still got that BEETI city

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<v Speaker 1>this day. You just got out to the hospital like yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>So like stuff like that. Uh, me helping out like

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<v Speaker 1>hand bills and stuff like that for pops and moms.

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<v Speaker 1>I got brothers and stuff like that. Are you the

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<v Speaker 1>main source of income for your family? No? But I

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<v Speaker 1>always feel like as long as I'm doing something, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>as long as I'm doing something positive and generating money,

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<v Speaker 1>I should always be other help. Maybe she give us

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<v Speaker 1>two more pieces. Yeah, we're gonna need a third for later.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, I want to try this. Yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be rough. I'm getting your guys. I'm getting it

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<v Speaker 1>there smoking like I don't want to say at a barbecue,

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<v Speaker 1>I got to kiss smoking, hold on little it's down

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit though, Yeah, I don't want to set

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<v Speaker 1>off on sprinkling. So your single's blowing up right now,

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<v Speaker 1>what can we expect like in a few tire for you, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>some more singles blowing up? But for real? Uh, just

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<v Speaker 1>me evolving, don't get knowledge to different different media sources

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<v Speaker 1>and even TV and stuff like that is evolving as

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<v Speaker 1>a all right, So tell me something that we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know about you. Uh uh. I don't know why, but

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<v Speaker 1>I just bought my first bed, keen bed in my house. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a CAREERIB since I got signed the first time, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was sleeping on the same bed my mama

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<v Speaker 1>brought me since sixth grades. I felt like a twitter

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<v Speaker 1>or something like a full size frame though or was

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<v Speaker 1>it weeks ago? Like literally, I promise you huh didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have a bad frame and it was a good bed.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a great bed. It had a bad frame, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it was a good bed. But I don't know, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I got all this money and I'm just but i'd

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<v Speaker 1>never be at home too though. He'd be like that,

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<v Speaker 1>that's cool. Actually that's something I would have never even thought.

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<v Speaker 1>I just took it up. Feel me, you did Prussia

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<v Speaker 1>camera time? All right? Then you how to get your bread?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? We're looking real smooth. So I put it

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<v Speaker 1>on there. I could really see you making this like

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<v Speaker 1>every day. You can see me making this every day. Hunh.

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<v Speaker 1>Why it look too good at something? It's like a

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<v Speaker 1>go to It's it's easy. You got a lot of making. See.

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<v Speaker 1>If you got this problem like this, you just fold

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<v Speaker 1>it up so it can fit your bread. You see

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. You don't want too less avacan though,

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<v Speaker 1>because you would be like, damn, you know bread. Remove

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<v Speaker 1>that from the hot burner because I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 1>we're smoking. Slide it over. Yeah, don't touch that. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>touch it. It is this. It's just because it's so hot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't gonna touch you. I ain't crazy. I burned

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<v Speaker 1>myself out a long time ago. I'll take that one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you can take that one. There he goes my first

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. So I'm guessing this is how you do

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<v Speaker 1>your dish. You got your chips on the side. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta have a spicy chips, any kind of spicy chips.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a going You gotta have a power way to

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<v Speaker 1>me lecture lighted something that's gonna, you know, really smooth.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna steal some of yours and drink this water

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<v Speaker 1>to something here that's cool. You don't try to pick

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<v Speaker 1>some of the fat off like this, right, Yeah, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>I do, definitely. Damn, Oh, this one's not that fatty though, Yeah, yours,

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<v Speaker 1>I fix sure, it's good. I should have deep pop

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<v Speaker 1>on mind. But it's all right, all right, let me

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<v Speaker 1>get something actually, or some of your cup first, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I was like, I'm sure he's gonna need

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<v Speaker 1>mao butter something. No, none of that. Ain't we have

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<v Speaker 1>all that? I really ain't had as much bacon. How

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<v Speaker 1>many slices on average? Did you put? Like two? Probably

0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:16.320
<v Speaker 1>about two? Probably about three? Three? About three? Max? It's good, awesome,

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go the time of truth. Time of truth.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a super simple dish. So I have faith

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<v Speaker 1>in you alright ready. And even though I think cheese

0:20:26.359 --> 0:20:28.680
<v Speaker 1>would have been great, but cheese is a luxury, right cheese.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a cheese person, you should have had some

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<v Speaker 1>cheese here. Good bacon soundwich, Yeah, it's the spot I'm

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<v Speaker 1>telling you. I'm telling you. Bacon sound this would go

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<v Speaker 1>to it really does? Is bacon and bread and some chips?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you give it a look with? You know what?

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<v Speaker 1>And first I was like, okay, well here's this Bob.

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<v Speaker 1>It's totally it's the spot, the spot, man, I'm telling

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<v Speaker 1>you you gotta whip it up power right yep. So

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<v Speaker 1>what's your next milestone? Mm hmm um. Honestly, I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to go Plano plantum right, that's my names mostime, I

0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:40.360
<v Speaker 1>want one of my riggers to go planning. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna definitely put you on the spot. And you can't

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<v Speaker 1>avoid the question because I know you're in this industry.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh m hm. I'm really like, genuinely cares me get

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<v Speaker 1>another stip? I'm genuinely curious. Who are your top I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna give you up to five favorite rappers in order

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<v Speaker 1>mm hmm. You can't play some top five just rotating

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<v Speaker 1>and our uh huh. If you want, I could go

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<v Speaker 1>first to buy you some time to think on my

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<v Speaker 1>top five to help you out, but that's really helping

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<v Speaker 1>you out. I have to go first, go first, Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you first? Yeah, because I always feel like if you

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<v Speaker 1>say your top five and then someone may have forgot

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<v Speaker 1>somebody thought later like that, So you go first. All

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<v Speaker 1>right problem all time. Hm mhm, better life mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm let's say Michael Jackson tupap little baby to live baby?

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<v Speaker 1>Who who would I say? Like the little baby? Now? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>little baby. I had to go from back all the

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<v Speaker 1>way to now from baby a little battery. Mm oh

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<v Speaker 1>you thug, young thug and probably Boost a badass because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm from bad rouge and that's just I'm judging you

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<v Speaker 1>right now. There's the top five. Yeah, that's my top five.

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<v Speaker 1>I gave you two points. I'm gonna give you mine

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<v Speaker 1>and let's see if you still stick with your top five.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna stick on my top you think so, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean I listened to a lot of music.

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<v Speaker 1>But mm hmm, Okay, here we go. I'm gonna give

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<v Speaker 1>your credit on m J. H. Well, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>are you sure you don't want to switch on MJ

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<v Speaker 1>because technically he's not hip hop? So I'll artists, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>hip hop, hip hop, hip hop, lou Wayne Baby, Little Wayne,

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<v Speaker 1>Little Baby, Kode Black, Kevin Gates, and Boost is Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go, okay, and y'all can

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<v Speaker 1>rate this, okay. Um, I'm gonna my team, you know, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>it's up to perspective. But I think you're gonna change

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<v Speaker 1>after here. Mine, I'm gonna go with I have to

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<v Speaker 1>go with j because that's my favorite rapper of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>Ok Um. I have to go with Drake because I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's just phenomenal and he creeps up in my

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<v Speaker 1>my rotation a lot um Little Wayne for sure, just

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<v Speaker 1>on respect overall, um eminem m okay, and then there's

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<v Speaker 1>so many greats after that. What was that at for um? Damn,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna mess this up. You didn't say Tupac in

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<v Speaker 1>your top five just now when you redid it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's always hard. It's always hard when someone says five.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go with. I mean, there's so many, there

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<v Speaker 1>could be d M X Tupac. Uh, there's so many.

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<v Speaker 1>And then on the female side there's Cardi. I love Cardi. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you feel is your biggest threat to your career? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Just I don't know. I can only get in the

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<v Speaker 1>way of was I heeard of me, so I would myself,

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<v Speaker 1>my country get myself was Yeah. I think from hanging

0:26:03.840 --> 0:26:07.040
<v Speaker 1>out with you, I've learned that you're so versatile and

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<v Speaker 1>your turnover. It's like you learn a lesson and you're

0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:11.959
<v Speaker 1>just like, I learned a lesson, I made a mistake,

0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:15.359
<v Speaker 1>I moved back, I moved from it, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the fact that you yourself garnered your own career,

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<v Speaker 1>fighting for your own dreams. It's really cool. What advice

0:26:24.960 --> 0:26:31.560
<v Speaker 1>would you give to someone that's following behind you. Y'all

0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:36.399
<v Speaker 1>told him, never stopped. They will stop working and just

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<v Speaker 1>keep working. There's always somebody who just have a moment

0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:42.840
<v Speaker 1>and they stopped. Yeah, they see something go wrong and

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<v Speaker 1>they stopped. They give all, they discouraged thing, they're not

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<v Speaker 1>excited about whatever, they whatever goal is they trying to meet.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just tell me, just keep working. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>always keep working. What I thought was interesting when I

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to book you with your team, one of

0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:01.920
<v Speaker 1>the things that stood out was we were trying to

0:27:01.920 --> 0:27:05.639
<v Speaker 1>figure out whether to do a morning interview or afternoon interview. Now,

0:27:05.800 --> 0:27:11.600
<v Speaker 1>most rappers always it's like late interviews slash possible cancelations

0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:18.720
<v Speaker 1>just unfortunately they just the missfights or whatever, and it's

0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:20.800
<v Speaker 1>just something I got used to. But what was interesting

0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:24.320
<v Speaker 1>about your team was they were like, um, we can

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<v Speaker 1>do eight in the morning. Jay will go Jay's j

0:27:28.200 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 1>will Ja doesn't miss his stuff. They're like, it doesn't

0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:33.880
<v Speaker 1>matter what hour we could book him, And I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that was different, Like the way they were talking about

0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:41.040
<v Speaker 1>your work ethic. I'm available and tell them unavailable, Like

0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:43.200
<v Speaker 1>if I'm just booked, if I'm booked every alway and

0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:45.639
<v Speaker 1>I can't, then that's the point where I say, I

0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:50.679
<v Speaker 1>can't make it. Yeah it ain't gonna work, but I'm working.

0:27:50.760 --> 0:27:53.080
<v Speaker 1>I ain't missing nothing nothing that's for me, you know

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:56.000
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. It was step with my journey, like

0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 1>it was still count So I just you know, this

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<v Speaker 1>experience I've never been even on even for yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>I just want my baking up on that. Yeah, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't miss. I only trying to miss too much

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<v Speaker 1>stuff for me because I know sometimes to just be

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<v Speaker 1>one in a lifetime chance sometimes and then after that

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:15.000
<v Speaker 1>chance you take and they go, well, now you've got

0:28:15.040 --> 0:28:17.480
<v Speaker 1>a hundred more chances other than that chance you took.

0:28:17.560 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 1>Now you've got zero chances. And another stereotype that I

0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:26.560
<v Speaker 1>hate to do two rappers in general is the whole

0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:30.640
<v Speaker 1>smoking or drinking, and you don't you're definitely not high,

0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:34.359
<v Speaker 1>so you don't do any of that. I mean, I smoke,

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:36.320
<v Speaker 1>but I don't when I have to be, when I

0:28:36.400 --> 0:28:40.560
<v Speaker 1>have to present myself, I'm always presumable, and I'm not

0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna you know what I'm saying, because it's just too

0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:48.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know people people people looking for that, you

0:28:48.400 --> 0:28:49.920
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. Like you say, I ain't drunk,

0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:53.720
<v Speaker 1>you could tell like I'm just chilling. People always see that,

0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:55.959
<v Speaker 1>So I just do it on my own time for real,

0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:59.360
<v Speaker 1>for real. Okay, do you feel like hip hop's definitely

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:01.360
<v Speaker 1>stepping away from from because there was a point where

0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:04.080
<v Speaker 1>hip hop was like we Chris Stall and all that stuff.

0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like hip hops evolved so far away

0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 1>from that because I feel like all these rappers now

0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 1>have their own and like you own your own lane,

0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:16.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, but there's no more push of the alcohol

0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:20.480
<v Speaker 1>or the vices I feel, you know, yeah, because it

0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:22.880
<v Speaker 1>is more I ain't gonna see. It's all the way

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:27.000
<v Speaker 1>just far away from me because a lot of rappers

0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:30.640
<v Speaker 1>every almost every rapper smoke, almost every rapper drink. But

0:29:31.040 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 1>I've been meeting more rappers like, oh no, I don't smoke, bro,

0:29:33.680 --> 0:29:37.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm good, And they'd be like, hello, who have you met?

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:40.800
<v Speaker 1>So far that shocked you. That doesn't smoke. Oh, it's

0:29:40.800 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 1>a guy named Playboy. He's from my city. He also

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:51.040
<v Speaker 1>like multi gold and platinum, so he he also artists,

0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:53.240
<v Speaker 1>not to like you got a couple of ruggers going

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:56.760
<v Speaker 1>on going in, but he smoked like a drink. Like

0:29:56.880 --> 0:30:00.040
<v Speaker 1>he'd be like, bro, I ain't trying to I to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, bro, all right, it's cool. I'll be like

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Now, have you met or worked with like

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<v Speaker 1>your dream person that you wanted to work with or

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<v Speaker 1>is there someone on the line up that you do

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<v Speaker 1>want to work with? Yeah, like the Little Baby somebody

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Ain't gonna lot like he inspired me, like

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<v Speaker 1>anybody any I'm gonna say you, this is anybody who

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<v Speaker 1>like doing good consistently, Like I like make the Stallion

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<v Speaker 1>CARDI b Megos, they successful, anybody that's successful and they

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<v Speaker 1>did they they for show, like yeah they certified for show. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It just inspired me so like and you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>come from the same background where you built your own audience. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she's smooth. She did she had to do. I respect that.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like that? And Rouge supports you for

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<v Speaker 1>some people that arena show that I just had the

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<v Speaker 1>first time they support me. Yeah, yeah, they support me.

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<v Speaker 1>At first, it was like, huh, it would be hard,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'll be back home and they would be like

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes scared to support me, like or they'll be like

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<v Speaker 1>I was scared to ask you for a picture because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know bad rules, just way totally different ages.

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<v Speaker 1>All friendly and sweet is not? Its completely the opposite.

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<v Speaker 1>So everybody like just on their own time and still

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<v Speaker 1>but they really used to be like, man, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>you was gonna be mad if I asked for a picture,

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<v Speaker 1>like scared to support it. They probably do it on

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<v Speaker 1>their own time. But but the rend of show it

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<v Speaker 1>showed me like, all right, they don't. They don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>Have your friends switched up at all? Um? Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>may not know, not my real friends, but who I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that was friends? Because you have two different types

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<v Speaker 1>of switch ups. You have to switch up where they're like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>they act like you owe them something. But then you

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<v Speaker 1>also have to switch up where people that are your

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<v Speaker 1>friends are afraid to call your phone. They're like, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to bother yoursel so big. Now you know,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have both or do you just have the ladder? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Even my mama would do that sometimes I thought you

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<v Speaker 1>was busy on call. I'll be like, what's wrong with

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<v Speaker 1>you to call me? But yeah, I got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of that going on though, But I don't be too mad, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>I called up. I called my friends whenever I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about it, or my mom or whoever, who all, who

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<v Speaker 1>ever feel like that. I just always make sure I

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<v Speaker 1>get him a call tool, because if you don't call,

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<v Speaker 1>then it is way easier for them to say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's busy. You ain't talk to him in three months.

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<v Speaker 1>He ain't called me. He's too way too busy he is.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't reach you no more. So I always just

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<v Speaker 1>called back home, whoever, my friends, my real friends, even

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<v Speaker 1>if they don't you know what I'm saying here my

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<v Speaker 1>phone or what though. Yeah, I saw this thing on

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<v Speaker 1>CARDI B. I think it was yesterday or one of

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<v Speaker 1>the days. She had a birthday party for her daughter

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<v Speaker 1>and she just went on there. It was like, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're related to me, if you came out of my

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<v Speaker 1>grandma's coach, you know, just DM me and I will

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<v Speaker 1>send you the information, like you know, like I may

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<v Speaker 1>forget who to send it. That was so real, because

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<v Speaker 1>that is an actual problem that people face when they

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<v Speaker 1>blow up. It's like all of a sudden, people are like,

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<v Speaker 1>well maybe you forgot about me, or or maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't invited, and it just get famous. It's so many

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<v Speaker 1>people they be they be looking like man, so many people.

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<v Speaker 1>He don't even know who I am. Normal, like bro,

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<v Speaker 1>I know who you like that? Yeah, yeah exactly. But

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it's cool that you know you've got

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<v Speaker 1>you and she you guys take the extra step to

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<v Speaker 1>like reach out or say you know I'm here. But

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<v Speaker 1>it is an additional responsibility. M. But anyways, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for feeding me today. This sandwich is pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>I was yapping you ate all yours. Yeah, so this

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<v Speaker 1>is my meal for today. I really had a struggle

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<v Speaker 1>meal today. It's my lunch. M. It's delicious. Um. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you again for taking the time after day eating your

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<v Speaker 1>first meal for shore for the day. Now, I know

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate. I don't need eggs and cheese. Eggs and cheese,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I won't need him. Oh, I was about

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<v Speaker 1>to say, I think I said you don't eat eggs

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<v Speaker 1>and cheese. I was about to say, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, like if you know I'm running short on

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<v Speaker 1>groceries and bacon and bread. I could be like up

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<v Speaker 1>that Obian special. I'll call it special, and you guys

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<v Speaker 1>could check out Obian's special in the Cookbook of Eating

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<v Speaker 1>Wall Broke, which is really simple. Obviously, bread and bacon.

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<v Speaker 1>You're pretty good to go. Thank you so much. I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta make that bacon right though. Yep. For more Eating

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