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Speaker 2: We're talking that ship. He wants to start with the nonsense.

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Speaker 3: You d do you regret turning down one hundred and

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Speaker 1: Never ever got offered one hundred and sixty million.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Ogs. Playmaker original presented by DraftKings

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Speaker 3: Ud Season two already never seen it coming, dog, I

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Speaker 3: didn't see what. I don't think we would make it.

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Speaker 3: I knew we would make it. I knew what time.

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Speaker 2: Well, as soon as we got into part cast game,

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Speaker 2: I knew we were gonna be all right. You got

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Speaker 2: me kill you can't lose. You want to put you

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Speaker 2: we renew the deal. They said, no, Mike, just just you.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that you've been doing that long time. Just

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Speaker 2: be happy. We ain't go with Ebbing and Ivory. We've

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Speaker 2: been a laughing stock at the podcast work. Kind of

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Speaker 2: like that. We thought about it. Ain't gonna bullshit.

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Speaker 3: We thought about it, but no, for real. Thank thank

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Speaker 3: everyone that listens. Man, this is uh for us to

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Speaker 3: be season two. We're we're super excited about all the

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Speaker 3: guests that we had and we have a special one today.

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Speaker 3: Victor so a deep appreciate you coming in brother.

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Speaker 2: One of the best teams I've had, by the way,

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Speaker 2: that's why I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: That's why you're gonna make me blash on.

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Speaker 3: Hey, hey, it makes you feel me. But I played

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Speaker 3: thirty seven years with me. He's never won my jersey.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that.

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Speaker 2: You like that best teammates had. Let's die.

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Speaker 3: Let's just die right into that. Then let's die right

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Speaker 3: in there those years you're with him. Give me some

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Speaker 3: ud story, give me something. I thought you asked me

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Speaker 3: to give you some fictionures. I'm gonna get get you. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's the guest us go first.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's so bad, I ain't got.

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Speaker 1: My My biggest one in my that comes to mind

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Speaker 1: is when he almost killed Jimmy that one night.

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Speaker 2: Won one game, but oh the TV was on TV.

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Speaker 1: But other than that, I mean it was love.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's from a good place. He come from

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Speaker 4: a good place. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Jimmy played cards and drunk wine a day later.

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Speaker 3: You guys are you guys are perfect show Jimmy. But

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna tell a funny as story.

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Speaker 3: I'm watching I'm actually watching that game and all I

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Speaker 3: saw was this long, crooked ass finger come through the huddle.

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Speaker 2: I said, you see why my finger got crooked? Why

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Speaker 3: What you want to do, that's just I'm just I'm

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Speaker 3: it's like slow mo. That figure came through. I said, well,

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Speaker 3: I've seen that figure a lot.

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Speaker 2: Whoop someone, I gotta I got a big story. Listener

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Speaker 2: ever read morning he come into practice singing with a bonding.

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Speaker 1: On one thousand percent.

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Speaker 2: Come in every day, ranny, whatever the day is. He

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Speaker 2: I've never seen it come in and I've never seen

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Speaker 2: it come in a bad attitude. Locker rooms need that.

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Speaker 2: We've never seen it come in with his head down, frustrated,

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Speaker 2: What got you singing? Man? Wow? And it's not really

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Speaker 2: out loud, but you hear him humming to he was

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Speaker 2: doing before with that good energy. Every day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it's a song for everything, every moment, every

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Speaker 1: every everything. So for me, you know, I just do

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Speaker 2: I tried to.

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Speaker 1: And especially in a locker room, like you said, there's

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Speaker 1: in the locker room. So I just bring the positivity. See,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, But down the line, just

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Speaker 1: I would have to say I learned that before high school. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: Getting the trouble. I ain't like people being angry out there.

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Speaker 1: And it's not them that's telling me I can't play.

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Speaker 1: It's not them that's not playing, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So I owe it to them, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: there's always that one person that like, oh man, this again,

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Speaker 2: Know, So just that I think that's important, man. So

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Speaker 3: I think it's a dope story and it's great for

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Speaker 3: we talked about off set. The more you know, I

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Speaker 3: didn't even know this. They played him as a four

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Speaker 3: offer going to the senior which was Indiana. Right, So

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Speaker 3: but that's what I like to tell these kids, Like

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Speaker 2: They played him as a four.

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Speaker 3: a different way. It's it's the end that matters. But

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Speaker 3: because you would have been an asshole not played the four.

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Speaker 2: Indiana might doesn't you know offer you you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean. So so it's like just put yourself in

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Speaker 3: smiling that singing who's singing that? Well?

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Speaker 1: You know, for me, I understood early that I had

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Speaker 1: guard the team's best player, or you want me to

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Speaker 2: So but it wasn't easy.

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Speaker 1: And you know, as you get older and you and

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Speaker 3: So you get to Indiana, you know, uh, what was it?

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Speaker 1: Uh well, Indy, Wow, it got harder.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna remember after my very first practice in Indiana,

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Speaker 1: He was like, why are you crying? I said, man, listen,

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Speaker 1: It just became normal to me. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: I said, man, I don't have no idea. I said,

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Speaker 2: He said, boy, you got a lot of work to do.

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Speaker 1: You're talking like that and looking back at it on

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Speaker 2: So just keep believing.

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Speaker 3: Man, you could preach these young people, but telling that

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Speaker 2: Yo, I can get a lot better. Yeah fast, you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean. Some of these young kids is like, no,

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Speaker 2: don't getting even to catch that. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: you'll caught that at home. The man say you're graduating

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Speaker 2: three years, Yeah, I don't know. If y'all caught that,

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Speaker 3: But but but but they graduating eight.

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Speaker 2: I'm just seeing people on TV play college sports and

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Speaker 3: But what I mean, I'm serious about that those self

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Speaker 2: Can be surprised how many people make it to the

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Speaker 2: What was was Crean selling that d Wade ship to y'all?

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Speaker 2: That's what a mask selling that d Way juice, selling

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Speaker 1: Mean it's hard not to and with a player like

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Speaker 1: When I met him just randomly because I got invited

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Speaker 1: He's his exact words, he made me the man I

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Speaker 1: I think Anthony Edwards has an amazing future ahead of him,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's good. He want dog hands down, can go,

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Speaker 2: so getting drafted in Orlando? What was who? Who? What

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Speaker 2: But no, no, hold on, we even get that. I

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Speaker 1: So tell me about Orlando, man, what you want to

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Speaker 1: know about just you.

436
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Speaker 3: Know, expectations being the second pick, Yeah, all the stuff.

437
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Speaker 1: Honest, man, Okay, I'll be honest, Yeah for sure. I

438
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Speaker 1: just you know, yeah, I mean to be honest to

439
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,480
Speaker 1: going in there. It wasn't what I expected, you know,

440
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Speaker 1: I just you know, growing up, you you watch the

441
00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:13,399
Speaker 1: NBA from a fans perspective, they don't necessarily give it

442
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Speaker 1: to you from a player's perspective.

443
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Speaker 2: Okay, So that's what we have these podcasts for.

444
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Speaker 1: So when you go when I went into the gates

445
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Speaker 1: of being the number two pick, I thought I was

446
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Speaker 1: going to get number two pick type of treatment and love,

447
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,720
Speaker 1: and well it was drastically different than that. It was

448
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,480
Speaker 1: like it was like, no, you have to play behind

449
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,440
Speaker 1: this person. No, you're a rookie. You can't say nothing. No,

450
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,159
Speaker 1: we're not pushing you to be Rookie of the year.

451
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Speaker 1: That's not how we do things. We're a little nervous

452
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,439
Speaker 1: from Dwhite. Dwhite came in here, and you know, so,

453
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Speaker 1: you know, are we not giving our players too much

454
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Speaker 1: love because they're just going to up and leave us?

455
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Speaker 1: And it was just like nothing I could control, you

456
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Speaker 1: know what I mean. It was just kind of like,

457
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Speaker 1: I guess I just gotta kind of go and just play.

458
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Speaker 1: And luckily for me, I had great teammates, great mentors.

459
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Speaker 1: We had such a great young team like Elford Paint

460
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Speaker 1: and Me, Aaron Evan, Fourignier, Nick Vuviz, Tobias Hair.

461
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Speaker 2: It's like our young.

462
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,160
Speaker 1: Core was was was pretty good.

463
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Speaker 2: We had a chance and we were playing. We were

464
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Speaker 2: playing pretty good too.

465
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Speaker 1: But it's tough when you got four coaches in three

466
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Speaker 1: years and it's a new system every year, and it's

467
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Speaker 1: tough when you tell him like, look, I think we

468
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Speaker 1: should get a coach that's going to hold us accountable,

469
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Speaker 1: and you know kind of you know, we're young, so

470
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Speaker 1: we need to get turned up, you know what I'm saying,

471
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Speaker 1: Like we need that. Yeah, you want that, and you know,

472
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Speaker 1: no disrespect. You hire Scott Scouts who just not really

473
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Speaker 1: known for it, like, oh, I'm gonna you know, he's

474
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Speaker 1: just straight, straight and narrow, like this is what we're doing.

475
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Speaker 2: That's it.

476
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Speaker 1: And it would just kind of tells us, you know,

477
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Speaker 1: kind of a culture shock for all of us, you

478
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Speaker 1: know what I mean. But it is what it is.

479
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Speaker 1: I think they're doing. They're doing great now. They figured

480
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Speaker 1: it out, figured it out. It would have been dice

481
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Speaker 1: for to do that while I was there.

482
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Speaker 2: But you know, it is what it is.

483
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Speaker 1: God has a different path and a different story for me,

484
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Speaker 1: So I'm embracing it.

485
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Speaker 2: No, they definitely figured out I think what they're doing

486
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Speaker 2: now with the young core and the coach that's relatable

487
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 2: to that those guys in that locker room, and you know,

488
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Speaker 2: he's the leader of men, and they definitely they definitely

489
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Speaker 2: hear his message. You know what I'm saying. You can

490
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Speaker 2: tell by the way they played basketball. I watched the

491
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Speaker 2: other day and I think Calwell Pope made a comment

492
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Speaker 2: that this is the first team that he was on

493
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Speaker 2: that everybody wants to guard, because we all know we

494
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Speaker 2: have a team where I got a few motherfuckers that

495
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Speaker 2: want to guard their own shadow. So he said, this

496
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Speaker 2: is the first team you you can see me looking

497
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Speaker 2: at you. Damn, I'm just saying. We got a couple

498
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Speaker 2: of ky said, you know, I mean you know this call.

499
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Speaker 2: Pope said, that's the first team that he played on

500
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Speaker 2: what everybody wanted to guard. Now, I look at that

501
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Speaker 2: team and you remember when we used to play that team.

502
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Speaker 2: You run seven pick and rolls trying to get a

503
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Speaker 2: matchup that you want to attack and you don't want

504
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Speaker 2: to attack none of them motherfuckers exactly. You don't want

505
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Speaker 2: to attack all of them. Got length, all of them,

506
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Speaker 2: got athleticism, all of them got heart, you know what

507
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Speaker 2: I'm saying. So obviously they figured out they were sucking

508
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 2: up with you. But they figured it out.

509
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Speaker 1: We had some good We had some good times with big.

510
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 2: Teams, Aric Gordon, yourself, you Peyton who you know? He's

511
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 2: been around, but I always thought he was.

512
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Speaker 1: We had some little gs come through there to Luke

513
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Speaker 1: written our uh Gritten Hour was in there, Brandon Jennings, Uh,

514
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Speaker 1: big baby Davis.

515
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Speaker 2: We had some guys come through that. Where'd you go

516
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Speaker 2: from there? Okay?

517
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Speaker 1: See yeah I got traded from Okay. See, didn't even know.

518
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Speaker 1: They ain't tell me just minutes. I just bought a crib.

519
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Speaker 1: But I just bought a crib. Told them I was

520
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Speaker 1: buying a crib. How you found out about the trade.

521
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Speaker 1: It was just I remember it was I was driving

522
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Speaker 1: and then someone called me and was like, Yo, you

523
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Speaker 1: just got traded to the Oklahoma City Thunder.

524
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Speaker 2: No excuse me.

525
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 1: Well, ye see, I got traded twice in one year,

526
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Speaker 1: so I gotta I gotta recall from which.

527
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 2: Went from okay See to Indiana.

528
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Speaker 1: I went, I went from okay See to Indiana within

529
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Speaker 1: a year. Remember times, but one of the one of

530
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Speaker 1: one of the times, well actually both times, excuse me,

531
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Speaker 1: so both times. So the first time I found out,

532
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Speaker 1: I was on a plane and I was going home

533
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Speaker 1: and I didn't know. And then when I landed, I

534
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Speaker 1: just turned on my phone and I just was getting

535
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Speaker 1: d B B B b b B. I was just saying,

536
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Speaker 1: I just got traded okay See. And then I got

537
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Speaker 1: traded again, and I was on a plane and didn't

538
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Speaker 1: know until I landed from okay See to Indy. So

539
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Speaker 1: that's pretty much was my early journey.

540
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Speaker 2: Early.

541
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Speaker 3: I got traded on my birthday, so that's I was

542
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Speaker 3: actually at dinner with him.

543
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Speaker 2: You don't even remember me and you and t Matt,

544
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Speaker 2: I don't land. I remember that I got traded to Memphis.

545
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 2: I do remember that. I said that ain't good, Matt.

546
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how I do remember that. That's how they

547
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Speaker 1: do you sometimes, unfortunately on your birthday is crazy. Could

548
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Speaker 1: have waited one more day or yeah that was a.

549
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Speaker 2: Blessing to your agent? No no, no, like no come, no,

550
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Speaker 2: no nothing.

551
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: They traded me apparently because they said I couldn't shoot

552
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: the basketball. So that was what I heard. I could

553
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: be wrong, but you know, this is what it is,

554
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. At the end of the day,

555
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 1: it turned out great for me. I went to Indy.

556
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 1: I mean, I went to ok See first, and I

557
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 1: think okay See was a great blessing because I learned

558
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: from Russ and sitting next to Russ. And you know,

559
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 1: wisdom is understanding. You don't just learn from somebody telling

560
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: you something. You learn from watching too. You know, you.

561
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 2: Learn from watching too, observation.

562
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Speaker 1: So just and I got a chance to sit next

563
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Speaker 1: to him too, So seeing him and being in that

564
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: environment and watching that, Like I tell your story, this

565
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 1: is the craziest. Like We're playing Houston one night in

566
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: okay See and we both get there early for the

567
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: games and were just sitting there.

568
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 2: Russ like to put heat on his on his feet.

569
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 2: He's sitting there with the heat on his feet. We

570
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 2: just chilling.

571
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,360
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, he just turned to me and say, hey,

572
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Speaker 1: I'm dunk on somebody left headed today.

573
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 2: Look at him. I said, bron you ain't gonna do ship.

574
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 2: Shut up. He's like, all right.

575
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 1: The very last play of the game. It's the very

576
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 1: last player of the game. You need a whole game

577
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: is going. He gets it's like an out of boss

578
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: play for us to go up like four or five

579
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: to win the game. He like runs and cuts and

580
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: dunks on Clint Coppella left handed, thinking like he about.

581
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 2: To scream that he look at me. I told you that.

582
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 2: I told you. I'm like, how did he eat? I forget?

583
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 2: Still remember? Still believe it?

584
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 4: I couldn't believe it.

585
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: That's just And I use that story because, like, bro, like,

586
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 1: when you are determined and focused, you can really do

587
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: special things.

588
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 2: Man.

589
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 1: The human mind is a very special thing if you

590
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: tap into who you are and you just believe in yourself.

591
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 2: So man, all the time. I tell my kids that

592
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 2: all the time. Bro, Like, if you want something bad enough,

593
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 2: you want it bad enough, you're gonna get it. You're

594
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 2: gonna get it. You're gonna get it. You know what

595
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 2: I'm saying. You're gonna do whatever you have to do.

596
00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. If you can't go through

597
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 2: the front door, take through the garage. You can't get

598
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 2: through the garage, go through goden window, what what the

599
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: fuck you got to do. If you want something bad enough,

600
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 2: you would get it. You know what I'm saying. And

601
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 2: I just sit back and watch. Pay attention. You know

602
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 2: what I mean. So, I mean, now you get traded

603
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 2: to Indiana, they trade you for Paul George. Yeah, here

604
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 2: go the keys to the cop mofucker. Yeah, go to

605
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 2: keys to This is what you wanted. So now, even

606
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 2: though you didn't hear about it through your agent, even

607
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 2: though you had to read about the ship on your phone,

608
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 2: are you excited about this move?

609
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 1: You know when I first got traded there, I was

610
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: Excuse me. I didn't know what to expect. Honestly, I

611
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: was like, I didn't know what to feel because it

612
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: was like I got traded again. I'm like, dang, like

613
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: because you know, back then, especially when you would get

614
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: traded early on, especially because you know, the league had

615
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: an evolved one, like everybody was just.

616
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 2: Going anywhere and getting traded. You can keep me out

617
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 2: of this conversation. You never got traded. I don't know nothing.

618
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 2: I don't know that. You know, twenty years in one place,

619
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 2: you different different. Big. I seen the chair. I see

620
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 2: that that was just retaliation for that draft comment he met.

621
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: I appreciate that all right, So, yeah, I got traded

622
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: to Indie. I ain't know how to feel really honestly.

623
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: You know, I was going back to where I went

624
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 1: to school at, and you know, I didn't know how

625
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: to feel because honestly, I felt so disrespected. Like it's like, man,

626
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: I thought I was the number two pick. I thought

627
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: people actually wanted me places, you know. And then you know,

628
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: as a young kid, you know, especially me, you know,

629
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 1: I ain't got no big brother, I don't got somebody

630
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: who used to play in the league. I don't have

631
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: those things in mine in my camp. My camp is

632
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: a little set up, a little different. So I was

633
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: taking those blows really by myself, and you know, trying

634
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: to figure out, Okay, what do I do next? Like

635
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: how do how am I supposed to approach this next?

636
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: And you know, I was just like, okay, y'all, finna

637
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: wake me up. That's fine, that's cool. I'm going back

638
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: to Indy. And when I got there, they was like,

639
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: it's your team.

640
00:28:58,840 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 2: They giving me the key.

641
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,719
Speaker 1: You know, I've seen all the headlines when it first happened,

642
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: like oh they got to steal this could be they

643
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: only traded him there because he went to Indie and

644
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: it's going to be there trying to be average, and

645
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: it was just like I was already on I'm about

646
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: to turn up, period like, and then you know when

647
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: I heard everything after a transpired, it was it just

648
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: added fuel to the fire. And then when I got there,

649
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: I just I ain't see nothing but food every.

650
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 5: Day every day, They'll tell you they every day, every day,

651
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 5: every day I was coming, every single day I was coming.

652
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 5: And it was great because we had a great team

653
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 5: environment too. I felt like the guys enjoyed playing with me.

654
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 5: I felt like we enjoyed playing with each other, and

655
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 5: it just it just worked really well. So yeah, it

656
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 5: turned out pretty good for me. I was thankful for sure.

657
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 2: Hey listen, I tell people this all the time. Bro,

658
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: decided to have a little hate in your heart. It's

659
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 2: a healthy hate. It's a healthy hate. It's a healthy hate, bro,

660
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 2: you know for real, dog, Yeah all the time, Bro, Like,

661
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be here if I didn't have that healthy hate,

662
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 2: you know, the healthy hate of not being drafted. I'm

663
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 2: calling you from overseas to send me some ankle braces. Mother,

664
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 2: taking my own ankles in the bathroom before the game

665
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 2: was taking my ship with Scotch tape. Before the game,

666
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 2: I said, Killer, you got six some ancle braces. Dog,

667
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 2: I can't play like this.

668
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

669
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 2: Also, you know what I'm saying. You know, but I

670
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 2: got what I got, No listen, Vic. When I got

671
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 2: to friends, Dollar, gave myself one night to have a

672
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 2: pity party, had a box of black and Miles, and

673
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 2: I smoked them blacks. I smoked the motherfucking blacks. I

674
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 2: drank half that bottle of Hennessy. And when I got

675
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 2: up the morning, it was trying to get to it

676
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 2: and mother, motherfucking revenge to a start, fucking revenge to

677
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 2: a start. Your motherfucker's be surprised at home. I know,

678
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 2: Victman dropping a lot of jewels. You'll be surprised at home.

679
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 2: How far I hated drive you. It was a list

680
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 2: of motherfuckers that I hated. You know what I'm saying.

681
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: And once again it was healthy. You know. It drew

682
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 2: it drove me and brought it inside of me and

683
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: brought it out of me that I didn't know. I

684
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 2: had that ship, that ship. Listen a bracelet. I remember

685
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 2: that ship, Killer Listen listen every day Europe I was

686
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 2: I was just checking off the list, bro, Like, you

687
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Every day I go to the battle.

688
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 2: It's a hole in the floor. What is that? That's

689
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 2: the toilet. No, that's not the toilet. That can't be

690
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 2: the toilet. That can't be the toilet. Check on the list.

691
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 2: I can't wait that get back home. Mothers for making

692
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 2: me ship, for making me ship. This whole kill everybody.

693
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: Everybody listen, dog. So I understand that, and I try

694
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,719
Speaker 2: to tell because I think for me and it's just

695
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: trying to understand this generation is that you know, I

696
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 2: think everybody wants to be liked. I think everybody wants

697
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 2: to want to like. Everybody wants to be liked. I

698
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 2: think everybody wants to be accepted. But understanding, if you

699
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 2: fall into the category of it liked and accepted by

700
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 2: other people, then that probably does nothing for you as

701
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 2: a person individually.

702
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: I can tell you first hand, I don't do nothing

703
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: for you.

704
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 2: Oh I love it. He's such a great guy. What

705
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 2: is that doing for you? To call you for the

706
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 2: business deal? Is like so just trying to be like

707
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 2: and accept it that that never worked for me because

708
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: I had to be I had to set a standard

709
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: for myself.

710
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen something the other day that said, you

711
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: could be nice. Don't be nice, be kind because nice

712
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: guys get thrown around. They're getting tossed and turned and left.

713
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,479
Speaker 1: And they were sitting there and wondering, like, I know,

714
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: I used.

715
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 2: To be one of those guys that ain't just business,

716
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: that's not women too. Yeah, mom said, We all knowed saying, yeah,

717
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 2: because you could be ain't come from nowhere.

718
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: Your last authenticity, authenticity, just the first and only.

719
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 2: Myself.

720
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 3: So talk to us about some of the the epic

721
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 3: heat Indiana pay her When I was an Indy.

722
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was because he inherited that rivalry. Okay, because well,

723
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 2: I'll tell you inherited. I didn't. I got it here,

724
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: but we heard that rivaling every time we walked in

725
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 2: that motherfucker. We felt that he inherited that. You know

726
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

727
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: I have a vivid memory of Jimmy blowing a kissing T. J.

728
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,959
Speaker 1: Warren one game that was greazy. We we had some

729
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: real battles when I was in Indie, though, real like

730
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: it felt like heavyweight fights when we play off for

731
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: some reason, and I and I enjoyed it too, because

732
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: it was like Okay we're playing, and he used.

733
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 2: To play there.

734
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: It was like okay, I'm up, like I'm ready to go,

735
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: and it'd just be war the whole entire time.

736
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 2: Old School, Eastern Conference. Old School used to We used

737
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: to you weren't there. We used to.

738
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 3: We used to hate each other. Indiana Miami days. Old boy.

739
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: We had some dudes like like, uh when Eastern Conference

740
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: finals there, we saw that came to a few games.

741
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 2: Actually, I was at indist say something, I'm probably just

742
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 2: not getting to the point where i can speak to

743
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: somebody from the paces. I'm probably just not getting to

744
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 2: that point. Well, I can speak to people from listen.

745
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 2: It's just a difference, you know what I'm saying. I

746
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 2: just I didn't know how to do both. You like,

747
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 2: who who you hate worse?

748
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:26,439
Speaker 7: That mother was Boston, for sure, that's not even that's

749
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 7: for sure.

750
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 2: But I just I was. I was just never that.

751
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 2: I needed every edge I can get. Like, you know,

752
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 2: people talk about how MJ creates scenarios in his mind.

753
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 2: I used to create ship in my mind. Like if

754
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 2: it's in my mind when I look at you before

755
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 2: the tip off, Literally we're not even on the court.

756
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 2: We just locked in this little last room and we

757
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 2: got to fight to the death to come out. That's

758
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 2: what that ship I'm thinking about before the game. That's

759
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 2: the kind of mindset I'm put myself in before the game.

760
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 2: And motherfucker, I got to be the one come out,

761
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So it's just things like that,

762
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 2: bro that you know what I'm saying. I look back now,

763
00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, And it's funny to me

764
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 2: because I got liked and accepted when I was in

765
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 2: the O g Row, when I wasn't playing as much

766
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 2: and I was more of an og and I was

767
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,240
Speaker 2: more open to having a conversation and dialect with guys.

768
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 2: But when I was playing, it wasn't very like and

769
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 2: I didn't have very many friends outside of my teammates. Okay,

770
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 2: it was very okay. I didn't give a fuck. That's

771
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 2: what it was about. Bro. Like once again, I didn't

772
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 2: have a listen. I ain't have an option. I was undrafted.

773
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 2: I don't have the option to come in here and

774
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 2: try to be like you know, they try to tell

775
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 2: your practice, slow down, your fellow, you're going too fast.

776
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 2: Fuck you.

777
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 5: The floor.

778
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 2: So I can go back and take my ship with Scott's.

779
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 2: That's what you want me to do. Slow down? So

780
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 2: I go back and no, I can't slow down. I

781
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 2: don't have that luxury to slow down. So it was never,

782
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 2: it was never. It was never even an option for

783
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 2: me to be liked. I think my only way was

784
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 2: to come in the way I came in. I was like,

785
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 2: lay it all on the fucking line and just see

786
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 2: where the calls for. I'm saying, so, talk about us,

787
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 2: talk about you now.

788
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 3: Obviously I want I want to you know, I saw

789
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 3: you on ESPN looking DApp at them up.

790
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: Yeah before that, before that, go ahead, that's about his

791
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 2: heat experience. Okay, don't skip over that killed damn, I

792
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,439
Speaker 2: got the whole jersey on in front of it. Let's

793
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 2: talk about the heat experience. Thank you two years. You

794
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 2: spent four years with us, but two of the years

795
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 2: was getting back to the level where you felt like

796
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 2: you were comfortable to be out there and go out

797
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 2: there to contribute. But let's talk about the system of

798
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 2: the heat, because I think a lot of people, you know,

799
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 2: look at the heat and they see how, you know,

800
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: we have a great farm system, and how we're able

801
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,240
Speaker 2: to pick guys out and the younger guys and overlook guys,

802
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 2: but we also able to you know, get guys where

803
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 2: you know, injuries and different things. We did something similar

804
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 2: with Sean Levingston, you know, and guys like that, and

805
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 2: we just work with them and have the opportunity to

806
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 2: hopefully try to get them back to the level where

807
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 2: they can contribute and play the game. Basketball did something

808
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 2: like that with Greg Oden. So we have these conversations

809
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 2: and we have these opportunities with guys. Just talk about

810
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 2: your four years with the heat and the two years

811
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: with working your ass off. Like I told you, the

812
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 2: man came in every day with a good attitude and

813
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 2: worked his ass off. It wasn't even gonna play, nah,

814
00:36:59,200 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

815
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: Well, first off, my journey getting there was was was

816
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: quite interesting, Let's get that fun.

817
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 2: To say the least. Well, you know, I had got hurt.

818
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: So once I got hurt, you know, once you get hurt,

819
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: things automatically changed, whether you like it or not.

820
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 2: So it was a build up.

821
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: It was it was, I mean, all the so many

822
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: roller coasters of events that kind of went into me

823
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: getting traded from there, and then after that I went

824
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: to Houston for a couple of weeks and then got

825
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: traded again in twenty twenty one to Miami. And when

826
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: I first got there, I was very nervous the time

827
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: about in twenty one, I'm thirty, I'm thirty two right now,

828
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: thirty two, I think.

829
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. I really don't. I don't

830
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 2: I don't know.

831
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: I don't share the affairs of man. So I really

832
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: don't know how old I am. So I did had

833
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: like twenty eight, twenty seven, but yeah, so I had

834
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: just got traded there.

835
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: I got hurt.

836
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: I got hurt at twenty six, so yeah, I was

837
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: twenty seven. And then I got traded there, traded in Miami,

838
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: and I was nervous. I was very nervous. I wasn't

839
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: sure what to expect. But one thing about heat culture

840
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: that I enjoy is it gives me a sense of

841
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: home coming from my Nigerian parents. They're very strict, but

842
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: it comes from a good place. And Miami is very

843
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: similar in the fact, like, well, look, we're gonna do

844
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: things our way because our way wins, and you got

845
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 1: to respect it because I mean, every year, contenders, every

846
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: single year, and it's because their way works. And it

847
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: comes from a good place and if you embrace it,

848
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: you find out more about yourself, honestly, And that's one

849
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: thing I appreciated the most was first they gave me

850
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: time to come back to implement myself, to even enjoy

851
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: the guys, you know what I mean, like still coming

852
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,720
Speaker 1: on trips, still hanging out with the guys, still talking

853
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: to him, still getting to know them. So once I

854
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: got implemented, Yeah, it might have been shaky in the beginning,

855
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: but once we got into playoff mode, it was just

856
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: like whom next thing, you know, Eastern Conference Finals and

857
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: I'm playing in the game after this the whole year,

858
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: you know. So it's it's it's it's an acquired taste,

859
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: I guess you would say, but everybody exactly.

860
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 2: It's an acquired taste. Everybody. It's an acquired taste.

861
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: But it can it can work wonders for people for

862
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 1: sure as well too, so as we've seen, not only

863
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: with myself, gave Vincent, with Max Strews. It works wonders

864
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: for guys. So you know, you got to appreciate.

865
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 2: Draft the guys, man, miss those guys, man, Gay Max.

866
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 2: We had a good group. We did really good. Yeah,

867
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 2: very good. Can you tell because people don't know this,

868
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 2: and people don't I don't even know if they heard

869
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: about it. I'm gonna give you all a little insight

870
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 2: talk about the one on ones. Oh my god, the

871
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 2: one on one behind the scenes. Nobody tell them how

872
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 2: we tell them, how we get to it with nobody

873
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 2: watching get.

874
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: To it, you know, especially when you ain't playing. The

875
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: Ones is the game. It's our game.

876
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 2: It's our game.

877
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: And you know, O g take his ones very serious,

878
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: very seriously. So there's a lot of a lot of

879
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of battles and a lot a

880
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: lot of trash talking before a game.

881
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 2: Sh it was real.

882
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 7: It was real.

883
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 2: He was real humble about it too, No, not at all.

884
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 2: He was gonna let everybody you like win. You bet

885
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 2: everybody gonna hear it. Everybody, Hey, listen kill I might

886
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 2: be one of the top five best ship talkers ever played.

887
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 2: People just don't know, I think so. I don't know

888
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 2: that about me. I give you that. People don't know

889
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 2: that about me. But it was all in fun because

890
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 2: I wanted to help them get better. But I knew

891
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 2: I wasn't playing. But I knew Jimmy was gonna play.

892
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 2: I knew Vic was probably gonna play. I knew all

893
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 2: these other guys were gonna play. So, like you said,

894
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 2: it was my game, but it was really a game

895
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 2: within the game because I wanted them to play well.

896
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 2: I wanted them to be ready. And you you got

897
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 2: shipped with you. I got some I got some ship

898
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 2: and slide them puppies and stay in front. Yes, slide

899
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 2: the puppies to play a little defense now, yes, yes, sir,

900
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 2: for sure. But so now that we got the Miami

901
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 2: stuff out there, yeah, we had to do that. No,

902
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 2: you do.

903
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 3: First of all, I wanted to hear it. Anyways, talk

904
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 3: about where you're at now, what's what you're doing. Obviously

905
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 3: we saw you looking dapper as hell on ESPN clean you.

906
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 2: Know that couldn't breathe a little bit.

907
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 3: But I was cool to talk about it though, like

908
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 3: get your getting your body right again, and and and

909
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 3: then doing ESPN at.

910
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 2: The same time.

911
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 3: And I feel like I got I feel like I'm like,

912
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 3: you know, Crystal Ball, I think I feel like you.

913
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 3: Around the All Star break, we're gonna start hearing maybe

914
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 3: it's just me, is me let them do this this

915
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 3: little for the forty game work and then come back

916
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 3: and play at the end of the.

917
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 2: Year'll see what. Yeah, people, I was gonna.

918
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 3: Get We talk, We talk about this all the time.

919
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 3: That's what people, that's what teams need. So that's what

920
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 3: I think should happen. But go ahead tell me with

921
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 3: your old story.

922
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 2: Okay.

923
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, So you know, I tore my patella last

924
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: April twenty twenty three, and ever since then, I've been rehabbing.

925
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 1: My first time playing in the year was probably last August.

926
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: I think last summer I probably played five on five

927
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: maybe three times. So for me, it was just like

928
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: it was one of those times where you know, when

929
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: you get hurt, it's an emotional imbalance, so very you're

930
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: very reluctant to kind of take that step back. I

931
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: used to stay back, take and be like, okay, so

932
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: where am I at. Let's let's let's figure out what

933
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: the right thing is to do here. So, you know,

934
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: I was going to these workouts, going to these teams,

935
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: and you know, just to be real, he was just like,

936
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: I ain't feeling it right. So it's like, oh, I'm

937
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: just giving myself more grace, you know what I mean,

938
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: Give myself more grace, give myself more time, and I

939
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: just know, I feel even better now, my goodness, like

940
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: if this was two months ago, But I feel great now.

941
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: I'm and I'm only getting better.

942
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 2: You know.

943
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: I'm back here in Miami working with David Alexander at DBC,

944
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: who you know, I started working out with the year

945
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: before I came an All Star, so he has a

946
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: very interesting history on my body and how it works

947
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: and stuff. So it's been beneficial so far. So we'll see,

948
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: you know. For me, it's just about taking it one

949
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 1: day at a time. You only get twenty four, you

950
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean. There's there's no telling what tomorrow comes.

951
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: So my twenty four, I'm trying to just maximize everything

952
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: I can. In the meantime, you might see me on

953
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 1: ESPN from nobody.

954
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 2: We see them You the other day, boy, I see

955
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 2: the other day. Might see this smile on esp About that? Like,

956
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 2: tell me about that? How did that come about? Is

957
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 2: that is that something that you know obviously because you

958
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 2: have the time or that is that is that part

959
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 2: of your future?

960
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: Is that something well, I wouldn't be surprised if it

961
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: was part of my future. Ogy just because you know,

962
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,439
Speaker 1: at Indiana actually took some classes for broadcasting as well.

963
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: So I don't know, We'll see, but I'm on my

964
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: Clark Kent right now. I'm at the Daily Planet, AKA,

965
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: so I'm just right now just focused on you know,

966
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: when I go in, there's just trying to implement things

967
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: that I'm hearing from Alika, I'm hearing from KP, I'm

968
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: hearing from Brian, and just try to be myself within that.

969
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: Like it's hard because you don't want to like like

970
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: overdo it when there's veterans in the room, you know

971
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, people who really know what they're doing.

972
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 2: And there he's a legend though on top and ship took.

973
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 3: He started killing it all a sudden my phone, like

974
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 3: every time I call it, Yo, this is this is

975
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 3: still might now call me broh.

976
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 2: I understand you. You obviously they are veterans, but you

977
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 2: have a very specific insight because you fresh out the

978
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: locker room. You know what I'm saying. KP played, but

979
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 2: you know he's been a few years remove. So just

980
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 2: know that the people at home itching to hear your

981
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: people in your voice on majority of the topics that

982
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 2: on there more so than anybody even though you knew

983
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: they itching to hear your your voice and your opinion

984
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 2: on that more so than most of those people up there,

985
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 2: just because of who you are and what you're It's

986
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 2: a different way of social media now. No, it ain't

987
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: just people coming in that wear glasses with pins and pads. Now,

988
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 2: you're getting straight from the sources on the You're getting

989
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 2: straight from the guys that's in the locker room, getting

990
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 2: straight from the people that's been through it, you know

991
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So that's invaluable. The opinions and the

992
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: views that you're gonna give. That makes a lot of sense.

993
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 2: Then think about it. I understand their veterans and ship

994
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 2: like that, but your ship, your ship comes with a

995
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 2: price tag. Yeah sure Yeah.

996
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: And then it was they was really trying to push

997
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: me to be myself and show my personality exactly like that.

998
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 2: So that's what people love, bro. So they're gonna let you.

999
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 1: It's gonna take some time, but you know, I'm gonna

1000
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 1: get comfy.

1001
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're getting comfortable just enough to January come around.

1002
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: Some tea be surprised. I don't, Like Mike said, we

1003
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 2: talked about this all the time. They need veterans one

1004
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 2: hundred percent and on bringing on and off the court.

1005
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 2: I don't know if they value veterans. You're still young enough.

1006
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 2: I even talked Andre Andre Igodala about this one time.

1007
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,919
Speaker 2: Is just creating an extra spot on rosters that don't

1008
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 2: create that doesn't go against the salary cap for guys

1009
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 2: that have ten, fifteen years or whatever. It is like

1010
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 2: a veteran spot. This doesn't count against the cap, and

1011
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 2: you just have a veteran guy each locker room because

1012
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 2: it's important experience.

1013
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 3: He's a honey hole right now because he's he's still

1014
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 3: your body's probably feeling as best as ever felt had six.

1015
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 2: Years years old.

1016
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 3: So we go still go kill on the court, but

1017
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 3: he also gets to that locker room presence of being

1018
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 3: through some ship. Obviously worst case now singing them upucking

1019
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 3: nationally anthem.

1020
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 2: Like you said, like you said, be through some ship.

1021
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 2: One thing you can't you you can't.

1022
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: You can't substitute experience, Like experience is something that you

1023
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: just can't.

1024
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 3: And on top of the teams are starting to realize

1025
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 3: that more. Now you're starting to see more and better

1026
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 3: guys like like Chris Paul going.

1027
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 2: To San Antonio. Yeah, yeah, that's not I mean.

1028
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 3: Listen, Chris Paul looks he always plays great basketball, but

1029
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 3: you can't tell me. In San Antonio's phase, they were

1030
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 3: smart enough to realize we got to make sure Vic

1031
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 3: keeps getting better. And I'm gonna do have a come

1032
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 3: in and beat the orchestra of the figure, and you

1033
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 3: will teach him how to get better. You cannot put

1034
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 3: a price tag on that. I don't care how much

1035
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 3: money you give them, because if Victor Women Beyond is

1036
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:48,959
Speaker 3: that much better next year because of it, you should

1037
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 3: have paid him one hundred million to come do it.

1038
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 2: Chris Paul was all over there. I was like, perfect, Yeah.

1039
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 3: I mean your whole future is on vict It's on him.

1040
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 3: So Chris Paul makes them that much better. There's not

1041
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 3: enough money you could pay that man. Great, great point,

1042
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 3: and then to help him understand, like losing is not

1043
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 3: okay because we talk about it in the league all

1044
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 3: the time. Man, you start getting here, Yeah, forty one

1045
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 3: games in, you've done it twice in that old two seasons,

1046
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 3: row your rookie. Second year, you're getting You're getting bum

1047
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 3: rushed every time. Like also it's like, okay, just go

1048
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 3: home and have a beer.

1049
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 2: And there's a balance to that because I remember, you know,

1050
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 2: my first year with Eddie Jones, and we lost about

1051
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: three in a row. And I was sitting the guys

1052
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 2: were playing cards and I was sitting back by myself

1053
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 2: and I wasn't talking, and h Eddie asked me, what's

1054
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 2: wrong with you? And I said, man, God, damn well

1055
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 2: we even get I asked with every night Eddie saying,

1056
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 2: you know, we got seventy five more games. So there's

1057
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 2: a balance to that ship. You gotta take it and

1058
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 2: you gotta be frustrated, but you can't carry it to

1059
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 2: the next game because you're gonna pay even worse.

1060
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 3: But and you know this, y'all don't have to tell

1061
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 3: you guys this, but it's the biggest thing is losing

1062
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 3: can't be okay. You know, you guys start getting to

1063
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:56,919
Speaker 3: the point where it's like, oh, we know we're gonna

1064
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 3: lose anyways, is okay?

1065
00:47:58,640 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 2: That's that's some bullshit.

1066
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 3: That's when that's when hatred starts feeling like hatred starts feeling. Hey,

1067
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 3: by the way, I'm glad we're talking basketball. Thank god,

1068
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 3: it's about to be basketball.

1069
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: Season's let's talk about some NBA headlines because you are

1070
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: first episode of season.

1071
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 3: Two, the first episode of two yes, so cat trade.

1072
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 3: We ain't talking you. We ain't talk since the cat trade.

1073
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 3: Now I got some all right, talk to you want

1074
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 3: to go first? Yeah, you got you stood up. You

1075
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 3: might have to take glasses off. He looked like he

1076
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 3: about a glass take off.

1077
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 2: I don't think either. I don't think that trade makes

1078
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 2: either one of them a championship contender. But I do

1079
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 2: think if you look at the trade, I think Minnesota

1080
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 2: got the better of that trade. Wow, yes I do.

1081
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:51,439
Speaker 2: They lost Hartenstein, they lost Evincenzo. They're in it, and

1082
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 2: they lost random, they lost toughness, and they gave up

1083
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 2: a draft pick. Once you get in those playoffs, you

1084
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 2: know this better than I do. Ain't nobody running an

1085
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 2: inter section of Puerto Rico. I ain't gotting you. Ain't

1086
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 2: nobody running an inter section to put I ain't listen.

1087
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 2: I ain't tricking you. I ain't tricking you. You know

1088
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 2: what I'm running. You know it's coming. Stop it. Get

1089
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 2: right about that. So you need motherfuckers with heart skill set.

1090
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 2: Cats sit at the top of the list heart. He

1091
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 2: might be in the middle, and that's not a knock

1092
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 2: on him. I'm not a knock on him. Everybody don't

1093
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 2: have to be the tough guy. Everybody don't got to

1094
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 2: be the lightning in the bottle guy. That just might

1095
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 2: not be his things. But you lost a lot of

1096
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 2: toughness when you lost Hartenstein to Okay, see when you

1097
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 2: lost random in the trade, and when you lost even

1098
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:47,240
Speaker 2: another day. I ain't that. I ain't the one motherfucker

1099
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 2: if it was you, motherfucker, that's what you get whatever

1100
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 2: you said to him. Ship like that, So listen, that

1101
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 2: ship matters. Dog, trust me, a motherfucker like that. Given Scenzo,

1102
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 2: I don't even know the motherfucker seven days, seven days

1103
00:49:58,400 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 2: a week, and twice on Sunday, come on with me,

1104
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 2: I think he coming. I'm with you. I know Randall

1105
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 2: is a motherfucking bull in a china shop. You know

1106
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

1107
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: I don't think I go back to the Western Conference

1108
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 1: finals who Minnesota?

1109
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 2: Minnesota? No, I do, But I said I don't think

1110
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 2: it makes so much championship. Okay, I don't think he

1111
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 2: thinks that one doesn't think he pushes over there. I

1112
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 2: don't think that makes either one of them win it all.

1113
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 2: But I do think if you're looking at it, I

1114
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 2: would say that Minnesota got the better of that.

1115
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, okay, but by the way, if you're right,

1116
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 3: if you're right, you know, if if you're right, which

1117
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 3: you probably are, because give me credit, I am right.

1118
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 2: Okay, you're right. I watched a lot of basketball.

1119
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 3: But with that meanings said, that's an unbelievable job by

1120
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 3: Tim Conley than because he the reason he did it

1121
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:39,240
Speaker 3: was financial.

1122
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 2: Probably a great job because he couldn't Teams that go

1123
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 2: to the Western Conference Finals don't make moves to get better.

1124
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 2: I'm saying, just like the fucking Florida Panthers, by the way,

1125
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 2: the championship Florida Panthers. But he went to the Stanley

1126
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 2: Cup two years ago, lost and made move to get

1127
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 2: better and came back and won the next year. Most

1128
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 2: of the time, when you get there, all you say

1129
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 2: is let's run it back. I was just like he was.

1130
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 3: He was in a to me, it was a unique

1131
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 3: spot because if you say he won the trade and

1132
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 3: he easily could have. I mean, it's always gonna be

1133
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 3: fun to see.

1134
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 2: Who knows what that draft pick they got.

1135
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 3: I guess what I'm saying is like he he had

1136
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 3: to do it financially because cat had always like on

1137
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 3: the books, they're gonna get killed financially, so he had

1138
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 3: to make those kind of moves too, now you know

1139
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 3: what I mean.

1140
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 2: So it's it's interesting how he did that. Listen, killer,

1141
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 2: that ship sound good. But if the Cat was guaranteed

1142
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 2: to take them to the championship, you pay that tab,

1143
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 2: you get your I'm saying, clearly the financial moves was

1144
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 2: based on IM saying.

1145
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 3: I'm saying, that's that's you're you're playing. You're playing chess. Now,

1146
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 3: we ain't winning playing chess.

1147
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 2: Now, that's what he said. We ain't winning with this.

1148
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,439
Speaker 2: You said it. Now you got I don't know about

1149
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 2: the rest of the team, but you got least three

1150
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: motherfuckers on that squad. They're gonna let their nuts hang.

1151
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 2: Anthony ed was ain't no motherfucking dog. I mean, ain't

1152
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 2: no pump adult. Thevincenzo is a fucking dog and random

1153
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 2: as adult. That ship matters, That ship matters in the finals.

1154
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 3: I think I actually hear and I'm listening to what

1155
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 3: he says, and a lot of it is true. I

1156
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 3: think I think Cat going there plays better off of Brunson.

1157
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 3: Brunson is a ball dominant guy. Julius Randall's a ball

1158
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 3: dominant guy. Cat's more of a catch and shoot three. Unfortunately,

1159
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 3: they're trying to put him in that post a little bit.

1160
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 3: So I think the Knicks got better. I'm with him.

1161
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 3: I don't think it pushed them a but I think,

1162
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 3: you know, Brunton and Julius Randall, when they played their

1163
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 3: best basketball, Juwis Renalds actually hurt. So like Julius Randall's

1164
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,760
Speaker 3: is a great talent, Brunson is obviously a great talent

1165
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 3: both ball dominant guys like I think Brunson and Cat

1166
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,919
Speaker 3: can play off each other a lot better than Julius Randal.

1167
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 2: J Man. That ship he's talking, it's the truth. He

1168
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 2: talking at X's and oh ship, you're getting a seven

1169
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 2: game series and the motherfucking playoffs. Can I start off

1170
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 2: by saying that he said, I think, and I think

1171
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 2: he's Steve if you do this and move that around

1172
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 2: in this all so again, let me let me, let

1173
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 2: me let me hit you one back.

1174
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 3: You don't you don't think that Cat and and and

1175
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 3: Brunson are better paired up than Julian Julis Randall and Brunson.

1176
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 2: I do, I do? Should be right. Yeah, at the

1177
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 2: end of the day, the better pair. I don't give

1178
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 2: a fuck about the better pair. That ship gonna win,

1179
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 2: that shit gonna get it done. I agree with you,

1180
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 2: though I don't think it either. Moves it over. Once again,

1181
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 2: this is what we do. Trust me. Taking away from

1182
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 2: the trade, missing Hartenstein is gonna hurt them, mother bro right, when.

1183
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 3: They removed all the glue from the scenarios Hartenstein Evencenzo like,

1184
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 3: they just the glues.

1185
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 2: The guys I'm gonna tell something might get praise if

1186
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 2: anyone values those type of guys exactly exactly. Those are

1187
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 2: the guys that might not get the praise. But those

1188
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 2: are the guys that you can't win without telling you, Bro,

1189
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 2: you those guys. You need those fucking guys in your

1190
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 2: locker room. And I know a lot of the times

1191
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 2: you might get frustrated with Julius Randow on offense and

1192
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 2: ship like that, but I bet that motherfucker got herd.

1193
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 3: No here a dog telling you like again, I'm I'm

1194
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 3: in the same. I actually listened to it. I think

1195
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:51,919
Speaker 3: I think you're right on a lot of it. I'm

1196
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 3: just saying to me, when they were playing their best

1197
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 3: basketball is with space with Jalen Brunson, it doesn't mean

1198
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 3: that they're not like I always I hate that when

1199
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 3: they say, oh he sucked. No, they're just not a

1200
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 3: good like to me, they're both ball dominant people like

1201
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 3: Julish Randall is gonna dribble it downhill play.

1202
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1203
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: Like how you play agree once once team's playing for Jalen,

1204
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 1: who who else is the playmaker?

1205
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 3: That's that's that's that's all good. So that's that's because

1206
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 3: Julish Randall was a leastmaker. Next, that's a that's a

1207
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 3: great take.

1208
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: He's going to carry a ton of load throughout the

1209
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: year and he's gonna have to still be fresh come

1210
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: playoff time.

1211
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 2: If I want to make. That's a trick. So that's

1212
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 2: the trick.

1213
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: And then with the Timberwolves, Yeah they traded Cat, but

1214
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: they still got.

1215
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 3: Nas Reed's nice.

1216
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 2: He's a big good he is like, well the give

1217
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:43,320
Speaker 2: and take we want to what's you think vic? I

1218
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:44,280
Speaker 2: would have to I would.

1219
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 1: Have to go with the Wolves. I think the Wolves

1220
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: got better.

1221
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 2: And they still have a draft pick out of Here's

1222
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 2: here's what I like. Here's what I like about it.

1223
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 3: Because of what you said about toughness and stuff, I

1224
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 3: think you can go, you can get away with playing

1225
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 3: Knaves and Julius randall together and that when Rudy goes down,

1226
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 3: like you can do that like they like if you

1227
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 3: saw the playoffs a lot of times even it was

1228
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 3: they were taking cat out defensively and leaving Rudy, you

1229
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 3: know what I mean, and let Nas play that. So

1230
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 3: now you put Julius like you guys are you're speaking

1231
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,879
Speaker 3: good language. I'm just saying, like, I think that really does?

1232
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 2: It looks good? You go like you say, you go

1233
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 2: Nas and random and you got like that, you got

1234
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 2: to make a shot YEP.

1235
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 3: One of the bigger storylines to me, I think in

1236
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,280
Speaker 3: this one too, is is Clay going to Dallas. And

1237
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 3: and the reason to me, we've had this conversation already.

1238
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 3: The reason it is is because I think Clay's like

1239
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 3: as good as he is, it's gonna be interesting to

1240
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 3: see how he fits in this new role. He's used

1241
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 3: to ball movement, pitch Chase, Steve Kerr blah blah blah blah,

1242
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 3: like he.

1243
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 2: Just talked about.

1244
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 3: But but but it's fair like now and now when

1245
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 3: he goes to Dallas, it's going to be Kyrie. It's

1246
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 3: gonna be Luca angle, pick and roll, getting where you're

1247
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,439
Speaker 3: fitting right like now. I think I think Jason Kidd

1248
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 3: will do a pretty good job of understanding how he

1249
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 3: can find minute. But I'm interested to see if he

1250
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 3: becomes just catching shoot corn three.

1251
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he ain't gonna have no choice

1252
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: but to storyline.

1253
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this, if you want something bad enough,

1254
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:14,720
Speaker 2: you do whatever you gotta dot. From what I read

1255
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 2: and paid attention to the way Clay left Golden State,

1256
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 2: wasn't very happy the way it ended. Healthy hate That

1257
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 2: can be a healthy Listen, I'm telling you read the man.

1258
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 2: The man was. He's very upset about how things ended there.

1259
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 2: He wasn't happy about how that ended. Talked about his

1260
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 2: last couple of years and how he just wasn't happy

1261
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 2: playing basketball and all these different things. And now he's

1262
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 2: getting brother of fresh Air Doll. But once again, I

1263
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 2: know it's a different role. But if you frustrated and

1264
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 2: that shit pissed you off bad enough, and you just

1265
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 2: want to show people you can still play and you

1266
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 2: want to win, you'll do what the fuck you gotta do,

1267
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 2: and you'll show people what you got to do to win.

1268
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,439
Speaker 2: So I know it's gonna be an adjustment for him.

1269
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 2: But I think he wants to win bad enough. I

1270
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 2: think he wants to show people bad enough that he

1271
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 2: can still play. He still got some shit in the tank.

1272
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 2: He'll make the adjustments that he needs to make.

1273
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he also said recently he wants to go back

1274
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: to being a better defender, which I think is important

1275
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 1: too for their team, because you know, you can get

1276
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: stops that creates so.

1277
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 3: You get you get Luke and Kyrie out in transition

1278
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 3: where they can't set defense.

1279
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 2: You might as well with the time when was one

1280
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 2: of the best two way po No, remember that.

1281
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 3: Like this, my storyline with this one is not about

1282
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 3: his like obviously his agent and everyone always has to

1283
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 3: come ahead of the conversation. Everyone has to taken on

1284
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 3: a different role when you age, right, That's what that's

1285
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 3: And he's had.

1286
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 2: Injuries to deal with, but bying his dad mine is more.

1287
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 3: He's played in one system his entire career, and that

1288
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 3: system has was perfectly set for those guys tho, you

1289
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 3: know what I mean. Like and so now he's going

1290
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 3: to and again I'm not saying he can't do it.

1291
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be interesting to see how how

1292
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 3: it works, because he's gonna go from always pitching and

1293
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 3: Chase the man had thirty points and three dribbles, you

1294
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 3: know what I mean, like and a half. That's like that,

1295
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So it's gonna be interesting

1296
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 3: to see how that plays out. I'm really intrigued Taylor storylines.

1297
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 3: You guys got going to the season because you know

1298
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 3: we're right here, guys, I mean, this is.

1299
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 2: This is a great time in basketball. I got a

1300
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 2: question for you. What you're all gonna do? Oh, I

1301
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 2: already told you it all. It's all. He got a

1302
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 2: he got the right mentality, it's all yeah.

1303
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 3: Okay, it's healthy healthy, He's healthy as they can be. Man,

1304
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 3: read that team's gonna be. That team's gonna be fun

1305
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 3: to watch too. I'll be like Zach. Zach's gonna be

1306
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 3: perfect for him. Moves Jared Jackson to his natural position.

1307
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 2: Again where he can be who he is, Like.

1308
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 3: The smart Smart guard is the best player every like

1309
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 3: they like at the end of the day, Like they

1310
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 3: had a big off season without him doing really anything

1311
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 3: besides draft jack because everyone got healthy.

1312
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 2: Yes, that's deployment.

1313
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 3: The games last year Markus Smart didn't play Jared Jackson

1314
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 3: played about forty Like, so they you have a whole,

1315
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 3: basically whole new team without really doing anything besides drafting

1316
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 3: Zach number nine.

1317
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be fun. I think it's gonna be fun.

1318
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to watch to be fun too. It's

1319
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 2: gonna be fun.

1320
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 3: He's he's he's motivated though, man like he's on that ship.

1321
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 3: Like he's like you know, and and that's how he's

1322
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 3: always been though. So it's gonna be fun to.

1323
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: Watch sleepers in the East and West.

1324
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 2: Oh sleeper teams. I mean Orlando sleeper. But that's my

1325
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 2: I think I think they can be. I like their team,

1326
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 2: I mean that's I've been preaching Orlando for the last year.

1327
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 2: What about the West. I loved the coach, you know, obviously,

1328
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 2: I love the young talent, and I think, you know,

1329
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 2: bringing in call what Pope's going to help them because

1330
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 2: they needed the only thing they was at, Yeah, a

1331
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 2: little bit of leadership. You had a bunch of young

1332
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 2: guys that wanted to play the right way, wanted to

1333
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 2: do the right things. You got a good coach that

1334
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 2: they relate to and they listened to and need a

1335
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 2: little bit of veteran leadership and listen to the championship

1336
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 2: caliber that was. That was an elite picker. Yeah, that

1337
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 2: was a great show.

1338
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 3: And then you put on top of like they all

1339
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 3: went through that seven game series last year, like these

1340
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 3: guys fact like that's an experience this year. As long

1341
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 3: as you use that to what you like, everyone's building

1342
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 3: for the right thing. I think they're gonna be really

1343
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 3: really in the West.

1344
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 2: West Sacramento real like that brought into Martin Rosen. I

1345
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 2: loved them. Garrian Fox, I know, I think he turned

1346
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 2: down an extension or something like that, but I've always

1347
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 2: loved his game, and I think after they lit the

1348
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 2: beam up a couple of years ago, last year was

1349
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 2: a little disappointing for them. They also get a Malik

1350
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 2: Monk back healthy, who they lost last year to some

1351
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 2: injuries towards the end of the season. So Sacramento I

1352
00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 2: think will be and I think, if I'm not mistaken,

1353
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 2: there looking possibly to make more moves. They might not

1354
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:03,959
Speaker 2: be done yet. Oh wow, you know what I'm saying.

1355
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 2: So and I like Mike Brown, I like, yeah, you

1356
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 2: got my sleeper, And I think they get in there

1357
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 2: be good. The West is tough now.

1358
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: I think team is like the one move from being contenders.

1359
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 1: I would have to probably pick New Orleans.

1360
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 2: That's an interesting one.

1361
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: Too, they're one one move away. I think they need

1362
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: a center.

1363
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I risked another day said I'm playing Herb Jones

1364
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 2: that center? Was that for really?

1365
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: I saw that too. I think that's a joke.

1366
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 2: It can't be real. No, I think that's I think

1367
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 2: just respect to Herb Jones. Hell of a defender, not

1368
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 2: a center. Five is a motherfucker.

1369
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 1: He's not a center. He's not a center. But I

1370
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 1: would agree with you. I like, I think Phoenix is

1371
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: gonna be better this year. I think Phoenix gonna be better.

1372
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 1: I think to be Yeah, they ain't got no choice,

1373
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: but I think they better. I think Tis Jones helps them.

1374
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 1: I think my Mason Plumb he helps them. And my

1375
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 1: sleeper in the East is definitely Orlando as well. So

1376
01:00:58,040 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 1: we're on the same page here.

1377
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 2: Which you think about the healthy heat, Oh, the healthy Miami.

1378
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: He always got a healthy always got a chance, always

1379
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 1: got a chance.

1380
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 2: When rosters that rosters.

1381
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 1: Always got a chance, always got a chance. With with

1382
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 1: with with Jimmy Bam Tyler and SMO and Pat that

1383
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 1: you always got a chance.

1384
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 2: To win. I'm intrigued.

1385
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 3: It's not I don't think they're a sleeper, but I'm

1386
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 3: super super intrigued. Second year with May and Houston.

1387
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes, yes I am too. It's gonna be

1388
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: interesting to.

1389
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 3: See how many that that they're like the Orlando of

1390
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 3: last year, that talents in the year two or three now,

1391
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 3: Like are you guys gonna be real or not? I

1392
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 3: mean Sang Goon, Jalen Green, Men Thompson, they just drafted

1393
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 3: Reid fan Fleet, Like are you guys gonna be for

1394
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 3: real or not? Because if you're not Jabari Smith.

1395
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 2: Like they like they're they're.

1396
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 3: Orlando of last year and with and with e May

1397
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 3: because now defense is becoming a priority and bullshit started

1398
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 3: seeing King Like I'm very intrigued with seeing that. I

1399
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 3: don't I don't know what it's gonna look like, but

1400
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 3: you're gonna know in twenty games, Yeah you know what

1401
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 3: I mean?

1402
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 2: Like that one's not gonna just sneak up on you.

1403
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 3: I think, let's get I'm serious, Like it's that it's

1404
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 3: that Orlando of last year kind of like you're gonna

1405
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 3: make a decision next summer, are we gonna take that

1406
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 3: next step? And try to get KCP, you know what

1407
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 3: I mean? Like, that's where I think they're going. And

1408
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 3: I hope that is because I think he mad did

1409
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 3: a great job. Last year we did and their talent

1410
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 3: got better. But now it's like any team that and

1411
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 3: are who are we paying? Yeah?

1412
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 2: When you got thirty seven top ten picks over there?

1413
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 2: Now like who are you paying?

1414
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 3: It's it's literally like what okay, see did the year

1415
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 3: we beat you know, we played James hard?

1416
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 2: Like you have to start making that decision. What you're

1417
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 2: fo What's it looked like? Like?

1418
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 3: It's gonna be interesting because all those guys and plus

1419
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 3: on top of that, and that's why veteran leadership and

1420
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 3: locker room so important. It's all those guys are gonna

1421
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 3: talked about in trade talk twenty games in Yeah, because

1422
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 3: we didn't. Okay, if we don't, if they don't, they

1423
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 3: don't extend sing goon Right now, who's eligible for extension?

1424
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 3: Jalen greenslible for extension? All right, So it's coming up

1425
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 3: on that deadline. If those guys don't get extended, they're

1426
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 3: gonna be in trade talks all the time. Who's gonna

1427
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 3: be the calling factor in that locker room. Yeah, you

1428
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 3: know what I mean.

1429
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 2: So, but the talent there is gonna be bendanas you

1430
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 2: because I love to listen. We didn't talk about it,

1431
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 2: okay see, oh yeah you talk about Okay see, I

1432
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 2: don't have a surprise. It's not a surprise. But they

1433
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 2: made some nice addition. Yeah, oh yeah, they nice edition. Defensively,

1434
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 2: they're gonna be Yeah, they traded, you know what I mean.

1435
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 2: They were already elite but better now. Yeah, that wing

1436
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 2: telling you Heartenstein Hearts are gonna be fucking good. Bro. Okay, see,

1437
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 2: will be fucking about that. They're gonna be good. Yeah,

1438
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 2: I mean that's that. We're gonna be fun to watch.

1439
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 2: They're gonna be fun to watch in it. And and

1440
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 2: this is the difference because e mail is implementing that

1441
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 2: in Houston. But you have a group of young guys

1442
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 2: that played the right way on both ends of the floor,

1443
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 2: and okay see, and that's hard to get. That is

1444
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 2: hard to get twenty two to twenty three twenty one

1445
01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 2: year old guys that play the right way on both

1446
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 2: ends of the figured that out with Okay see.

1447
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:04,919
Speaker 3: It's gonna be really really like that team is gonna

1448
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 3: be really really interesting too, because like we just talked

1449
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 3: about with Houston, they've got to figure out who they're

1450
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 3: paying there too.

1451
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 2: Yeah oh yeah, Okay to home and say Caruso is

1452
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 2: probably gonna get back. Like I know about none of that.

1453
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 2: I know who better get paid. I know, I know

1454
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 2: who better get paid. I know, but but but and Jay,

1455
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 2: you know they better get paid. I know. It's only

1456
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 2: two motherfuckers I see go go to work and don't

1457
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 2: sweat him and Shame you're thirty. You're thirty, and they're

1458
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 2: cool as a fucking fan out the sweat that ship too.

1459
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 2: He's the only two motherfuckers go for thirty. It ain't

1460
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 2: even sweating that. I ain't tell you that we might

1461
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 2: Nigerian brother, I did my ancestor Okay, okay.

1462
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm telling you.

1463
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 2: I got to show you my ship out the.

1464
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 3: Kind of not Jimmy and Yeah, not to get in

1465
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 3: front of this family reunion. But uh, we got a

1466
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 3: new segment out here, the new Battle segment. We're gonna

1467
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 3: show love, but it's gonna challenge you, guys. I'm gonna

1468
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 3: ask you guys. You see that list of players up

1469
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 3: there on the screen. Okay, I'm gonna give you some

1470
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you some some hints, some clues, and

1471
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 3: you guys gotta name which player it is, all right?

1472
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 2: First clue, born in Garland, Texas, Born in Texas.

1473
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 1: All these names, you know it would be funny to

1474
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 1: say dark he's Gonland.

1475
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 2: I was thinking that too. But out of all these names,

1476
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 2: born in Texas, ye I know he want the next

1477
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 2: Clorery Jamal Murray. Canna do you want the next clue? No? Okay, damn,

1478
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 2: I'm getting yelled at Jontay Murray. Wrong. I don't think

1479
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 2: he is born in Texas.

1480
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 3: He was also the twenty first pick in the twenty

1481
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 3: twenty NBA Draft.

1482
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 2: By the way, just FYI got this in three second.

1483
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna just tell you this off Darius Garland. I'm

1484
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 2: gonna tell you this man.

1485
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 3: He made his first All Star team in the twenty

1486
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 3: twenty four in Indy.

1487
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Nick Smith.

1488
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 3: Next clue. He was Most Proved Player Award. He was

1489
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 3: won the Most Approved Player Award.

1490
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 2: Terry's maxidea. What we got for winter? These motherfuckers on

1491
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 2: my big Tom? What size this? I don't know? Queen though?

1492
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 2: This is that was easy once you said most of you.

1493
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 1: Ye.

1494
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, well we appreciate that game. That was a lot

1495
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 3: of fun. That was Yeah again, next time tyres Maxie

1496
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 3: by the way.

1497
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 2: Even balance awesome.

1498
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, he's a new bounce, but he's I'm telling you,

1499
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of Tyriss Man too.

1500
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 2: I'm a huge That's gonna be an interesting one too. Man,

1501
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 2: we ain't talking about an interesting one man league is exciting. Man.

1502
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 2: The one piece they were missing, I know I heard you.

1503
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 2: I heard ESPN. I heard you piece with the clip.

1504
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 2: I heard you preaching ESPN catching shoot three. They were

1505
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 2: twenty seventh in the league last year. Paul George shooting

1506
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 2: catching shoot three of four two percent. They got a clip. Now,

1507
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 2: now you talk about coming off of pick and roll,

1508
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 2: and you got Paul George coming off to his right

1509
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 2: to a pull up. Or you can have Maxi coming

1510
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 2: off the pick and roll and throwing back to Paul

1511
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 2: George coming off to his right as you're rolling in

1512
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 2: b offensively. They should be unstoppable. Now to talk about

1513
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 2: the pick up of Kayleb Martin, shout out to my dog.

1514
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:20,439
Speaker 2: That's gonna be that's a big time shout.

1515
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 3: They are definitely making waves in the game right now,

1516
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 3: the two way v. Five, the heavy low and the

1517
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 3: fresh phone bb B two.

1518
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 2: But once again, I read something the other day that

1519
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 2: I said in B say he might not play back

1520
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 2: to backs if he had to choose for the whole. Yeah, listen,

1521
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 2: I understand. But once again, habits, and this is the

1522
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 2: only thing that I will say with him. Are his

1523
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 2: habits good enough to get him to a champions Let

1524
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 2: me ask you, Let me ask you this. Let me

1525
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 2: ask you this, because are his habits good enough to

1526
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 2: get him to a championship? I'm glad you said that.

1527
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 3: If he gets into the playoffs healthy, if he doesn't

1528
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 3: do back to backs and there, let's say they are

1529
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 3: a top five seed in the East because he doesn't

1530
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 3: play well, if he doesn't put back to the back seat,

1531
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 3: he's missing twenty some games. Probably they're good enough to

1532
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 3: get in there, but he healthy. Is that a championship team?

1533
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 2: No? Because what's inside you reveals itself in the playoffs.

1534
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 2: So what do you mean by that? If he doesn't

1535
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 2: have the habits in the season, he's not gonna have

1536
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 2: him in the playoffs. Okay, you think he don't just

1537
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 2: be to turn it on and like, Okay, let me

1538
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 2: be where I'm supposed to be every time. Let me

1539
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 2: play hard every minute. Let me if you ain't do

1540
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 2: it during the regular season, you're not gonna be able

1541
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 2: to do it during the playoffs, no matter how hard

1542
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 2: you might try.

1543
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,679
Speaker 1: It's it's it's hard for me to to to say

1544
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 1: just because last last I think maybe last year, I've

1545
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:34,599
Speaker 1: seen him get thirty and twenty on one leg.

1546
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 2: I understand. For me, it's like guess what.

1547
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 3: I guess what one person and guess what loves guess what.

1548
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 2: In two years before that, I watched Boston put him

1549
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 2: in every pick and roll and Jason Technical two years

1550
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 2: before he loves him he does. Before that, I watched

1551
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 2: Boston put him in every pick and roll on Jason

1552
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 2: Techman score fifty. No, you're right, you're right. That's just

1553
01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 2: it's not about his talent. If he had better habits,

1554
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 2: he'd be hands down the best ship since sliced Bread

1555
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 2: in the league. Yeah, I feel you, But he allows

1556
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 2: people to somewhat be in the conversation because I don't

1557
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:13,640
Speaker 2: think he's been his best version yet. M Okay, I

1558
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:15,680
Speaker 2: like it. I like it. Hey, I think I think

1559
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 2: he'll respond to that. I like that. I hope he does.

1560
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 2: I like that he does, Bro. I want to see listen, man,

1561
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:22,560
Speaker 2: I want to see him BB's best version because I

1562
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 2: think the league will see something that we ain't ever

1563
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 2: seen before. That's important that what you just said to

1564
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 2: I think we listen as greatest Joker is and me

1565
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 2: and Mike had this conversation, is greatest Joker is if

1566
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 2: Be's healthy and he has Joker habits. I don't even

1567
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:37,959
Speaker 2: know if we have a conversation about who's better motherfucker

1568
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:43,680
Speaker 2: Joker man here the man had thirty and twenty on

1569
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 2: the kicks. No man had.

1570
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 3: This. This argument here is not even an argument, like

1571
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 3: you're gonna say five things that I'm like, Damn, you're right,

1572
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:56,719
Speaker 3: I say on the kickst I know I also watched

1573
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 3: Joker in the finals.

1574
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 2: Give him listen listen, man, I told you when we

1575
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 2: was in the fucking finals, we knew we was in

1576
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 2: trouble when Jimmy and Bam couldn't stop murrying joking two

1577
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 2: man game. That's that's when I looked up at the beach.

1578
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 2: I said, ship were in trouble because usually those two

1579
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 2: can shut down any picture roll two man games. We

1580
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 2: ain't got worried about no help easy when they got

1581
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 2: in that two man game with Joking and Andy and

1582
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 2: we was having trouble with that right in that window

1583
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 2: in the middle floor. I ain't tell nobody on the team.

1584
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say no ship, But in my mind, I'm like,

1585
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 2: oh ship, because that two man no Triggers was with

1586
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 2: them too. We don't we don't give a funk who

1587
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 2: running the pickere roll with them? Two got they was

1588
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 2: there for sure. We could not stop that two man game.

1589
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 2: And that's when I knew we was gonna have trouble.

1590
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 3: Uh before we let you go though. Here we are

1591
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 3: the man of the people, and we got fan questions

1592
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 3: for you. All right, all right, we didn't make the questions.

1593
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 2: You make the questions.

1594
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 1: You're not dm us who I like this bottom Damn

1595
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 1: let's start talking that ship.

1596
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:57,640
Speaker 3: He wants to start with the nonsense. You d you

1597
01:10:57,680 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 3: know what the nonsense is? He called out, He said,

1598
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 3: give me the left. Do you regret turning down one

1599
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 3: hundred and sixty.

1600
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 1: I never ever got offered one hundred and sixty million

1601
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 1: to I'm made one day in the future, though I

1602
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 1: made sure I made the right decision, so that never

1603
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 1: happened where you get Yeah, I mean because you know,

1604
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 1: when when I left India, it was like, you know,

1605
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 1: how to you know, they paint the it's you know,

1606
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:21,560
Speaker 1: it's entertainment.

1607
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 2: What did they offer?

1608
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 1: So they offered three years eighty so it was this

1609
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 1: blessed than what I had but pretty much about the same.

1610
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 1: And my doctors and everybody was telling me I was

1611
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:36,640
Speaker 1: getting healthier, even though unfortunately my surgery wasn't done correctly.

1612
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 1: So I made that decision, you know, thinking I was

1613
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 1: getting better. And then my first three four games in

1614
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 1: Indie that year, I averaged twenty. So that's why they

1615
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 1: traded me, because I aver and they probably and I

1616
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 1: you know inside scoop they knew my shit was fucked

1617
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 1: up too, So you know, that's that's pretty much what happened.

1618
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 1: Never got one sixty that would have took it.

1619
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:57,799
Speaker 4: What sixty?

1620
01:11:58,000 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would addressed that question.

1621
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, it is what it is. You know,

1622
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 1: like I said, you know, you living, you learn my

1623
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: blessing coming on the back end.

1624
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 3: That's right, Who is the one basketball player who had

1625
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 3: the biggest impact on your career?

1626
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 2: The biggest you can't call him, oh man, he had

1627
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 2: the biggest impact. Man, you're an impact.

1628
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 1: I think the biggest impact would be our Chemoloja just

1629
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 1: because you know, yeah, no, right, that's't that crazy. I

1630
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 1: would say because well, when he was Nigerian, my mom

1631
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 1: was a big fan of his. You know, we've had

1632
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 1: some experiences with him as well, had a special experience

1633
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 1: with him on draft night too. So he kind of

1634
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 1: paved the way for Nigerian players in a sense. And

1635
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 1: you know, he kind of gave me the confidence to

1636
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:46,639
Speaker 1: dream and so he would probably be number one.

1637
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 2: For me with that lead answer. That's dope, shake the blues.

1638
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 2: He was good.

1639
01:12:56,400 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 3: Last question, who helped you and you motion your career?

1640
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:02,600
Speaker 2: Who helped you most in your career? Who helped me

1641
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 2: most of my career? Coach, teammate, family member I would give.

1642
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:15,879
Speaker 1: I would say one Russ just from being around him

1643
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 1: and then to my mentor Leron Prophet was a huge

1644
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 1: help in my career.

1645
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, Prof.

1646
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 1: I met Prof in in Orlando, so he was like

1647
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 1: the he was like the highlight to the you know,

1648
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 1: all the other stuff that was going on and he

1649
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:34,679
Speaker 1: seen something special in me and we've just been close

1650
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 1: ever since. So he was big help just because you know,

1651
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 1: he was experienced too. He kind of went to get

1652
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 1: his sting in the league and seeing scenes too. And

1653
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 1: he's seen some untapped potential in me and he brought

1654
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 1: it out of me. So credit credit him, and I

1655
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 1: appreciate him.

1656
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 2: For that too.

1657
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 3: Hey, man, I know you are singer. You're a hooper.

1658
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 3: He watched college football?

1659
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I do. All right, Well we got a

1660
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 2: DraftKings would say Indiana.

1661
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 3: We know Indiana. Hey, hey don't Hey you did you

1662
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 3: didn't hold up? Yeah for a moment, last, I take

1663
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:12,600
Speaker 3: you you would love this coach. Listen, I want to

1664
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you he might be I don't want

1665
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 3: to be wrong. I don't want to, but he might

1666
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 3: be sixty some years old.

1667
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:18,680
Speaker 1: Right.

1668
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 3: He came from all these he came from small I

1669
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:22,639
Speaker 3: want to tell you his funny story. He gets all

1670
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 3: these small schools and they bring up there like, damn,

1671
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 3: what the hell you got him? And he said, all

1672
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 3: I do is win Google me.

1673
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, with the Google me, I don't care about. And

1674
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 2: that's what they're they're rolling right now. My nephew went.

1675
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 2: My nephew went there. He signed to go to Indiana.

1676
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 2: Spent two years there was in the transferport getting the

1677
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 2: funk out of there.

1678
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 6: Nephew won't be no harm, ye, I'll tell you it's

1679
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:53,639
Speaker 6: a healthy hate.

1680
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 2: Hey, I don't know my man's name. I apologized, coach

1681
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 2: there he gangster side the transfer gott pulled together, but

1682
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 2: not against Indiana. You can win to Indiana, you can

1683
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:07,640
Speaker 2: win anywhere. Listen, I'm happy they win an this shit

1684
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 2: because the last two years weren't worth for damn.

1685
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 3: So we know so, so we know that he watches

1686
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 3: college football then because Indiana back on the map.

1687
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, watch Indiana. And since my nephew left, thank

1688
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:20,719
Speaker 2: you very much, check us out. We're coming honest.

1689
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 3: The new AP polling shows Texas has a number one

1690
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 3: team in college football.

1691
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 2: Texas curveer a.

1692
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 3: Plus three seventy over there, Ohio State plus four kifty,

1693
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 3: Georgia plus five hundreds, and Oregon is plus five fifty.

1694
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 3: Out behind them is the Miami Hurricanes at plus nine

1695
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 3: eighty four.

1696
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 2: We even stopped this ship. You guys asked you this.

1697
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 2: How the fuck is Georgia plus five hundred over Miami.

1698
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 2: They lost the game already because George, they don't sure

1699
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 2: Indiana kick the ass like god damn, with an iron

1700
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:50,720
Speaker 2: sheet boot. You haven't seen the iron sheet boot with

1701
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:53,600
Speaker 2: the hook on it, kicking kicking the ass with the

1702
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:56,680
Speaker 2: iron sheet boot with the hook on the front, with

1703
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:59,639
Speaker 2: the iron sheet boot. Alabama kicked the ass on TV

1704
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 2: with an iron sheep boot. And then Alabama barely beating

1705
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 2: South Carolina. Motherfucking Miami's undefeated, undefeated. Let's take this, kings,

1706
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 2: poor people. You'll treat us like the Hurricanes of the eighties.

1707
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:21,839
Speaker 2: That's what this is, Catholic versus convicts, fatigue and everybody

1708
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:26,599
Speaker 2: got what you're gonna do. That's what you're gonna do, America,

1709
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 2: because right now the Hurricanes undefeated. So how the fuck

1710
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,720
Speaker 2: is Georgia plus five hundred? I don't understand. Make it

1711
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 2: understand how undefeated team is lower than the team that

1712
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 2: lost a game. You know what, I don't get it.

1713
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 2: Your passion is elite. That's crazy. You gotta make it

1714
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 2: make sense. You gotta make it make sense. So if

1715
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 2: it's your dollar in Vegas right now, and you see

1716
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 2: those lines, who you picking? None of them motherfuckers, especially

1717
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 2: Ohio State, they owe us one they stole out of

1718
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 2: national championship. I remember that ship game.

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01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:58,599
Speaker 3: I will say that I don't think it has anything

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01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 3: with traffic. I think I think I think Miami is

1721
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 3: getting fucked.

1722
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, sir, I do appreciate that. Go ahead,

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01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 2: But who are you picking? I'll go with Texas. I

1724
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 2: like the man. You're going with the favorites. Yeah, I'm

1725
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:13,720
Speaker 2: going with the favorites. I'm gonna go with I'm gonna

1726
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 2: go with Vegas. You're a square, You're a square better huh.

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01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going I'm going call the safe better.

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01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 2: Fact. Now that I know Miami plus nine hundred, I'm

1729
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 2: gonna go place a bit when I leave this montherucker?

1730
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:27,639
Speaker 2: Is that what they are? Plus nine hundred? I thought

1731
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:29,759
Speaker 2: you said plus nine hundred. I said plus nine thousand,

1732
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 2: six hundred eighty four. But what's Miami plus six k?

1733
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 2: They're right there, all right, Georgia plus five hundred, I

1734
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 2: hear you out here. So why is it like that

1735
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 2: they're in a tougher conference than it's probably the toughest

1736
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:49,639
Speaker 2: conference in football. I will agree with that. It's not probably,

1737
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:52,800
Speaker 2: but yeah, it is the toughest conference. I mean, they

1738
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 2: still fucking lost, still lost. It don't matter.

1739
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:00,080
Speaker 3: I don't know how much you tune into the o

1740
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 3: G's but one of my favorite segments that we have here,

1741
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:04,600
Speaker 3: and it's taken on a sponsorship so because he's so

1742
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:07,640
Speaker 3: good at it as the Old G's advice. So in

1743
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 3: honor of season two starting out the Old G's advice, the.

1744
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:12,679
Speaker 2: Old G's jin.

1745
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 3: Yes, he gives his Old G advice on the Old

1746
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:17,760
Speaker 3: with sometimes when he's doing it. The probably why they

1747
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 3: did it is because it might sound like he's been

1748
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 3: having a.

1749
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 2: Little yay break us down before we go out here,

1750
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 2: brought to you by the Old G. Brought to you

1751
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 2: by the Old G. But I'm gonna take this one

1752
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:37,599
Speaker 2: from the Young G right here. Comparison is the thief

1753
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:41,639
Speaker 2: of joy. Yes, sir, I've never heard that one before,

1754
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 2: but I couldn't agree with you more, sir. Trying to

1755
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:46,679
Speaker 2: compare yourself to other people, trying to live a life

1756
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 2: that's accepted by others, that other people will value, or

1757
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 2: whatever the situation may, will end up stealing your joy.

1758
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:54,720
Speaker 2: You will never be your best version, You would never

1759
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 2: be happy. So I'm gonna take that one from the

1760
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 2: Old G. Such that Jim make you saying, hey, listen, man, Vick,

1761
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 2: we appreciate you coming in Bros. Real.

1762
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 3: Thanks for having Season two. It's underway. Man, appreciate y'

1763
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:09,680
Speaker 3: all for locking in. Follow us, keep doing it. We're

1764
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 3: gonna keep bringing out guests like Vick Man.

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01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 2: Appreciate you. Man out love