Speaker 1: Jill.
Speaker 2: You know what they do? Another episode of Against the
Speaker 2: Chronicles and I'm with the homie.
Speaker 3: Big steal in the house and Man, I see you
Speaker 3: and broke one of your homeboys down here today. Man,
Speaker 3: A low riding a legend man when it comes to
Speaker 3: putting them things together.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Man, you know, the culture is big. You feel me.
Speaker 2: Anybody who's been either the love or infatuated or just
Speaker 2: you know, a real a real historian, an enthusiast, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. And this culture is man, It's
Speaker 2: been spread so wide now, man, so you know, welcome
Speaker 2: the homie man to the show.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Chris sunstay customs in Orlando, Florida.
Speaker 3: Jill, that's what we do. Yeah, for sure. And we
Speaker 3: got another legend in the house man via telephone.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: Now, I've been trying to get the homie on here
Speaker 3: man for some years. But it's you know, it's appropriate
Speaker 3: now and it happened at the right time. The homies
Speaker 3: Spice won the house. Spice, what's happening with you, cracking mate?
Speaker 6: Man, it's out here getting the end as usually, you know,
Speaker 6: should make it happen. Sure out there he out there Vacus.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in Vegas, man, it's about a thousand degrees right
Speaker 2: now in Vegas and ship I just.
Speaker 7: See the nigga walk past here on fire niggas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, you know, Spice, you know one of the
Speaker 3: things I was talking to you about when I was
Speaker 3: on the way over here, but was the lack of
Speaker 3: it being the number one rap album in music. Right now,
Speaker 3: But before we get there, what you think about this
Speaker 3: whole Kiki Palmer situation?
Speaker 7: You know I ain't heard about it. What's that Kiky Palmer?
Speaker 4: All right? Check this out.
Speaker 2: The homie you know, Ussher got the residency in Vegas.
Speaker 2: You know, he do his thing, and of course you know,
Speaker 2: gang of females is gonna push to see Usher. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: let's put this scenario. You got you a celebrity female, right,
Speaker 2: you dating y'all together?
Speaker 4: Married whatever? Whatever? She flowed to the Usher concert.
Speaker 2: She already dressed what you know, provocative, Let's put it
Speaker 2: like that, right, But you know, Grace, you don't sweat
Speaker 2: your lady. You let her dress how she dressed. You know,
Speaker 2: you you confident in secureing that to where Hey, she
Speaker 2: want to go out with the with the sea, through
Speaker 2: with the throng on whatever. You confident you know she
Speaker 2: ain't fin the whatever. She coming home right, okay? Whatever?
Speaker 2: She she go to see Usher speakety where you at
Speaker 2: the crib with the kiddy?
Speaker 4: She go roll with the homegirls? Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Usher, you know knowing your girl, you know she's popular,
Speaker 2: she's out there. You know she's got some name and status.
Speaker 2: He want to recon right, he want to recognize you know,
Speaker 2: her status. You know, hey, my girl in the bill
Speaker 2: old then blah blah blah, come on upstage, give her
Speaker 2: some love, blah blah blah. Next thing, you know, he
Speaker 2: serenades her, starts singing to her whatever, and it gets
Speaker 2: a little, you know, too close for comfort.
Speaker 3: Put it like that on you gotta give spice to
Speaker 3: full detail on No spice, Not only is he serenading her,
Speaker 3: but she has these sea through pans on where you
Speaker 3: can see the throng and the booty cheeks is hanging
Speaker 3: out and everything.
Speaker 7: Okay, then she.
Speaker 4: Pressed up on him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, booty chicks hanging out And I think that what
Speaker 3: did he tut the booty?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 2: So so so you still are you you you got
Speaker 2: a problem with that?
Speaker 4: Do you think they acting it out?
Speaker 2: Just like just like we were saying, you know, in
Speaker 2: certain situations how we had on the show when we
Speaker 2: were talking about the situation up, you gotta you gotta
Speaker 2: play that ship out. You know, she's on stage, just
Speaker 2: like just like what happened with Homegirl with the kiss
Speaker 2: and everybody screaming whatever whatever. She's supposed to be a
Speaker 2: certain type of female, So why don't why not play
Speaker 2: the role out right?
Speaker 4: Right? You give me right right?
Speaker 2: So do you do you feel you know it was
Speaker 2: out of bounds for what happened, you know, because you
Speaker 2: know they say this is how my nigga usher gets
Speaker 2: a lot of that poontang. So how do you how
Speaker 2: do you feel about that? If if you were in
Speaker 2: the shoes of being the dude at home and your
Speaker 2: girl is on stage and doing how would you feel
Speaker 2: about that?
Speaker 4: What you address that publicly?
Speaker 1: Nah?
Speaker 6: I wouldn't addressing publicly, you know me. You know, you
Speaker 6: know I'm a bad nigga man. I never let him
Speaker 6: see me sweat, you know, I never would have would
Speaker 6: would go out here and address publicly about my feelings
Speaker 6: and get into my feelings, you know, uh, and exploit
Speaker 6: my feelings out there and published everybody. You know that
Speaker 6: would be something for me to talk to her about
Speaker 6: at home along between me and her.
Speaker 7: If I had a problem with it, you know what
Speaker 7: I'm saying. But you know, me being you.
Speaker 6: Know, me being a bad nigga, I might not even
Speaker 6: had a problem with it. I'd have been like, damn nigga.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. Okay, gone, Pip and do
Speaker 7: what you do. You know, but uh, you know as
Speaker 7: far as as far as me tripping out and flipping out, now, man,
Speaker 7: you know you know you can't.
Speaker 6: You can't let them uh uh discourage the player in you, man,
Speaker 6: no matter even if you got a woman.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, If that's your woman or whatever.
Speaker 6: You got enough confidence in her, and uh it is
Speaker 6: what it is, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: Because you know what if she do movies or whatever.
Speaker 6: And she got niggas kissing all on her tongue all
Speaker 6: down the neck, dema throat licking all over on her
Speaker 6: neck and you know, all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: That that movie that she did with with uh uh Tyrese,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. Like, you know, she would
Speaker 6: have did some movies, some movies like that or whatever,
Speaker 6: you know, did some stuff like that. Then he can't
Speaker 6: get mad because she just she's just acting. She's just
Speaker 6: doing her thing.
Speaker 7: So you got to get back and play a role.
Speaker 2: So still you saying that my man didn't have the confidence.
Speaker 2: That's why he spoke publicly about how he felt about
Speaker 2: her doing that.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, the.
Speaker 3: Thing is, I can see him being a little upset
Speaker 3: because he was a square. He's a civilian and as
Speaker 3: we all and as we all know and entertainment, we
Speaker 3: don't all have problems at the house because some girls
Speaker 3: may get a little too excited at the show and
Speaker 3: you go home and you know, the first thing your
Speaker 3: woman thinking, damn, is it like that? So if I
Speaker 3: wasn't there, what was you had done? You feel what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So, yeah, to some degree, you just got
Speaker 3: to take that he acknowledged her dog. Now, I can
Speaker 3: see why he was upset, but I think that should
Speaker 3: have been something left to the crib. He should have
Speaker 3: been upset, but he should have had that kind ofversation
Speaker 3: at home. And he sounds real insecure because I know
Speaker 3: my wife and if she sees she really ain't into
Speaker 3: no usher, but she sees Denzel, and Denzel want to
Speaker 3: give her a hug. I ain't gonna deprive her from
Speaker 3: giving the hug Denzel, because I'm damn She's gonna get
Speaker 3: my hug from Holly Berry if she sees me because
Speaker 3: I signed Holly, could I get a hug?
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It was my wife right here, but she ain't tripping,
Speaker 2: hug baby, get you a picture in there, And I guess,
Speaker 2: I guess you have to be like I said once,
Speaker 2: then you gotta be mo fucking confident in in yourself
Speaker 2: like you know. Uh, he should have paid it out
Speaker 2: and been like, yeah, you've seen my bitch up there, nigga,
Speaker 2: she was looking bad. Huh.
Speaker 4: Nigga.
Speaker 2: Usher had to break down the saying to my bitch
Speaker 2: because she looks so other good. You saw you saw
Speaker 2: that ass, nigga, You saw that. They gotta play ship out. Man.
Speaker 6: I'm in the I'm in the I'm in the grocery store.
Speaker 6: I piece some niggas looking at my girl ass. I
Speaker 6: walk over there with the niggas and look at my
Speaker 6: girl ass with them.
Speaker 1: They got.
Speaker 2: You know, you gotta be confident like to it, you know,
Speaker 2: because you know women nowadays, they like to express you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, how many times, how many times
Speaker 2: you don't went to the club. How many times you
Speaker 2: don't went to the club. And you see, you know,
Speaker 2: women with kids at home and the man and whatever. Nigga,
Speaker 2: they half naked most of the time. And it's not
Speaker 2: even an age limit.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: Shit, you catch a motherfucker from twenty five to forty
Speaker 2: five half naked and confident in that dress. So you
Speaker 2: gotta be as the mand You gotta be confident to know, well, shit,
Speaker 2: she ain't finna do shit. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: She look good, She want to show off some shit.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You gotta take the shit
Speaker 2: the same way I'm saying that. Then again, did he
Speaker 2: know the assignment? Did he know what he was signing
Speaker 2: up for?
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Like when he got into
Speaker 6: the relationship, did he understand who he was fucking with
Speaker 6: or what he was dealing what he was he was.
Speaker 7: Gonna have to deal with, Because I don't understand.
Speaker 6: That, you know what I'm saying. They think they understand it,
Speaker 6: but they don't, you know what I'm saying. Until until
Speaker 6: something really happened like that.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm gonna tell you this. Whatever
Speaker 3: he did, he probably donna push the right into that
Speaker 3: nigga's arms. U shoul probably yeah, mab, you know, he
Speaker 3: tripping and she couna be gone. She could be mad.
Speaker 3: All he did was open what do my boy will
Speaker 3: Smith White called an entanglement.
Speaker 7: Entanglement.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even put it like that, Like I said,
Speaker 2: she want to I don't know, Like I said, she
Speaker 2: want to play.
Speaker 4: The part out?
Speaker 2: You give me what what female in her position? I
Speaker 2: don't give a fuck. You know, I'm an actress. People
Speaker 2: know me worldwide. You know I'm not gonna get up
Speaker 2: here and be like, hold up, you know, I got
Speaker 2: my man at home. Whatever whatever, I'm gonna play that
Speaker 2: put out. Oh nigga, you singing to me, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: get the hugging on the nigga rocking and do it
Speaker 2: all kinds of ship because you gotta play you you
Speaker 2: in the public eye.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: You have to be able to be accepted by a
Speaker 2: lot of motherfucking people and ship and like you say,
Speaker 2: my nigga, he probably you know, ordinary nigga. You know,
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, I'm just like you. I don't know
Speaker 2: if he knew, you knew she was she was, you
Speaker 2: knew her status was climbing and she was gonna get
Speaker 2: to somewhere. She's an actress, she's in. You know, the
Speaker 2: climb is. But you know, I guess a lot of
Speaker 2: motherfuckers fall when you can't handle that ladder climb. You
Speaker 2: get me, especially especially when it's the the other motherfucker,
Speaker 2: You get me.
Speaker 6: Well, what it is. He's an r N too. You know,
Speaker 6: he's an r N right, a regular nigga. My nigga said.
Speaker 6: He's an alga.
Speaker 4: Nig at the hospital helping people.
Speaker 6: My nigga said, he's the O g r ed the scrug,
Speaker 6: he got the scrubs all and everything.
Speaker 3: Huh, because if he was, I would have probably joked
Speaker 3: with my wife like that. I would have probably joked
Speaker 3: with her about it.
Speaker 4: You know, I just said, you gotta add it out,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody's relationship different, man, like, you know, you got
Speaker 3: to add him twenty two cat right now.
Speaker 4: His wife does porn. He knew she did porn.
Speaker 3: Before he got with her, so he planning it out.
Speaker 3: His wife just you know, some niggas just came in
Speaker 3: there and knocked her down. I guess at whatever, right,
Speaker 3: everybody on the internet made a big deal about it.
Speaker 3: I said, now, this man know his wife do porn.
Speaker 3: If you know what it is and she do that,
Speaker 3: you can't come in trying to change some shit in
Speaker 3: the third quarter.
Speaker 4: And a lot of themers get down like that. You
Speaker 4: give me.
Speaker 2: It's a lot of motherfucking porn into street. Motherfuckers who
Speaker 2: got husbands and wives at home.
Speaker 4: Know what she said?
Speaker 3: He said, He said, well, why would I be mad
Speaker 3: at her? I've slept with over two hundred some women
Speaker 3: with porn. He's done porn. I guess, so he not tripping.
Speaker 3: I don't know what he making it. We got a
Speaker 3: problem in society today to where people need to mind
Speaker 3: their own damn business on certain stuff.
Speaker 4: It is different.
Speaker 3: I know me personally, I would never be sharing my
Speaker 3: wife with no other man. I just wouldn't do it.
Speaker 2: I mean, just like you said, with social media and
Speaker 2: the internet and people having so much access to your
Speaker 2: life now, and this is for people who put their
Speaker 2: personal lives on social media, I mean, you give motherfuckers
Speaker 2: the open opinion to voice what they want to say
Speaker 2: you give me uh, and then people pick and choose
Speaker 2: what the fuck they want to be in uproars about.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, because if it could be
Speaker 2: a situation where motherfuckers look at and be like, oh well,
Speaker 2: and then you can turn a situation like this, you
Speaker 2: get me. And it's all over the internet because Homeboy
Speaker 2: expressed how he felt about his wife on stage with Usher.
Speaker 3: Because you secure though, because he ain't struggling it right
Speaker 3: or something. You know, he thinking.
Speaker 2: About doing something right because he married right, they got
Speaker 2: kids right.
Speaker 3: You know, he insecure about something. Because I know I
Speaker 3: wouldn't be worried about the nigga.
Speaker 2: I mean, like you know who knows you know, like
Speaker 2: I said, he's you know what he go ahead me?
Speaker 6: I would, I would say, I would, This is how
Speaker 6: I would. I would tell everybody if I was him,
Speaker 6: I'd be like niggas she knows, she knows, she knows
Speaker 6: damn well, how how I slang this dick nigga?
Speaker 7: She know how I get domn She ain't gonna.
Speaker 6: Fuck with no other nigga in order to put her
Speaker 6: down like that nigga. I had a big stream and
Speaker 6: I have her. I have her crying, I have a down.
Speaker 6: You know, ain't no ain't no niggas gonna get down
Speaker 6: like that.
Speaker 7: Not know one night.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, You.
Speaker 2: Got to be confident in yourself that had when your
Speaker 2: woman go out half you know, you know, lining out
Speaker 2: if if if you if you confident knowing that you know,
Speaker 2: when my woman go out you know, half naked, or
Speaker 2: you know, even even in the fact when y'all go
Speaker 2: to the grocery store fucking whatever, if you got that
Speaker 2: confidence that you ain't tripping off or nothing, it's only
Speaker 2: in it's only insecure people. And that goes for both sides.
Speaker 2: That caused problem.
Speaker 6: And if he really felt that way, he should have
Speaker 6: just beat the brakes off the pussy fuss he left,
Speaker 6: But that ain't gonna start her. So if he even
Speaker 6: got to the spot and held, he could have did that.
Speaker 2: But my thing is it still ain't gonna stop her
Speaker 2: from getting on stage. When ushers say, hey, Kiki in
Speaker 2: the building, come on stage after, it's still not gonna
Speaker 2: make her.
Speaker 4: Okay. The niggas serenade me, I'm a fucking actress.
Speaker 2: At points a good right her in and got the
Speaker 2: internet talk. I get promotion. I'm up here with ushers
Speaker 2: in a million years to give me. Ten years ago,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have thought I was gonna be on stage
Speaker 2: getting serenaded by Usher.
Speaker 4: But you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: My status is where I'm I'm I'm I'm being accepted
Speaker 2: by a lot of motherfucking people. So for the fact
Speaker 2: that I'm in here with all these motherfuckers, and it's
Speaker 2: probably other celebrities in the building too, but he wants
Speaker 2: me to come on stage, and you know, he gonna
Speaker 2: do his little thing. Come on, we all playing a
Speaker 2: motherfucking part here.
Speaker 6: I can't look at him, and not that I'm trying
Speaker 6: to fuck with her, but shi, it is other.
Speaker 2: It's a gang other motherfucking man. You knowna bitches. They
Speaker 2: love that ship.
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna get up here and I'm gonna sing
Speaker 4: to a cruel I'm a cruel I'm a crueler.
Speaker 6: Motherfucker right quick. That's gonna get me fay. Other pussy's backstage.
Speaker 7: Hey, nigga, you know what, you know what we do,
Speaker 7: we do it different.
Speaker 4: Though.
Speaker 6: We might let serenade the brown I might I might
Speaker 6: serenade the police. See, I might be singing some of
Speaker 6: my my Gangstad songs about you know what I did
Speaker 6: and how I got down and ship and I might
Speaker 6: be looking dead in his face, crazy yeah.
Speaker 7: Gigging a gang stock, gang stock, you know what.
Speaker 3: You know, speaking of the rap shit, Chico, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: give you and eight both y'all flowers right now, right
Speaker 3: because both of y'all are two of the most lyrical
Speaker 3: cats in the game. Man, that don't necessarily like when
Speaker 3: they put out these lists of the top ten and
Speaker 3: the top twenty, this and that, they missed a lot
Speaker 3: of brothers, especially y'all.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 4: So I'm just gonna give y'all both big ups right now.
Speaker 1: Dog.
Speaker 4: You know, I wish we had.
Speaker 3: Ah, but you know, I'm gonna going to give you
Speaker 3: all y'all flowers right now.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: And I think everybody, because you know, we just had
Speaker 3: Lazy Bone in the show last week, and I think
Speaker 3: eight forget sometimes. I was looking at Lazy Bone, look
Speaker 3: at my guy, like man, like this is my hero
Speaker 3: right here. You know what I'm saying. He gave it up.
Speaker 3: He was like, Man, this is my guy right here.
Speaker 3: And I meet so many young artists that when they
Speaker 3: meet they it's like almost like like dang Man, I'm
Speaker 3: actually in.
Speaker 4: His presents, you know what I mean. I don't like
Speaker 4: to be like that, though I ain't nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 4: Take your flowers, nigga, understand though I don't like that.
Speaker 4: Shiit though. Man, I just hate it. Man, not like that.
Speaker 2: But I just I'm too I guess I consider myself
Speaker 2: just too regular. Man, don't consider myself.
Speaker 4: Tell you, ain't you and that nigga on the phone
Speaker 4: ain't regular niggas? Y'all don't know.
Speaker 1: Dog.
Speaker 3: At a time, dog, both of y'all had the streets
Speaker 3: on smash Man. You couldn't ride down the street without
Speaker 3: hearing one eighty seven proof and you couldn't ride down
Speaker 3: the street without hearing the hood took me under.
Speaker 4: You just couldn't. It was inescapable, bro. Y'all was y'all
Speaker 4: the shit.
Speaker 2: But see, to me, I was just talking for regular niggas.
Speaker 2: I was just talking for niggas that I was standing
Speaker 2: on the corner with every day. If niggas couldn't rap it,
Speaker 2: niggas was just they was just hood with it. So
Speaker 2: I'm like, fuck it. I got a little little I
Speaker 2: could keep the beating rhythm a little bit, so I'm
Speaker 2: fit to go home and just start writing about the neighborhood.
Speaker 2: And last night the homie got jacked, and two nights
Speaker 2: ago we got pulled over and womp the womp. Three
Speaker 2: nights ago we jumped out on some niggas at the
Speaker 2: gas station. I'm just talking about regular shit that I'm
Speaker 2: looking at, like niggas in La going through this shit.
Speaker 2: And it didn't matter whether your nigga was a crip
Speaker 2: or a pyrou or blood or whatever. We was all
Speaker 2: going through some regular That's what we looked at as regular.
Speaker 2: Now other people looked at it as crazy as fuck,
Speaker 2: But when you grew up like that, it wasn't no
Speaker 2: different than the motherfuckers and having family cookouts or whatever whatever.
Speaker 2: You went to the hood, you hung out with ten
Speaker 2: fifteen niggas. We pieced up on the weed and the drink,
Speaker 2: maybe a box of chicken or something so somebody could eat,
Speaker 2: and nigga we was on the block selling dope. You
Speaker 2: feel me, That's the way we survived. So just being
Speaker 2: able to, I mean, I caught the rap bug because
Speaker 2: I don't know, it wasn't nothing else. What the fuck
Speaker 2: else am I gonna do? So fucking the rap bull.
Speaker 2: I was able to because of the few years that
Speaker 2: a nigga went to school, I was able to. Okay,
Speaker 2: I know that rhyme with that and that rhyme with that. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm a nigga, so I know how to keep the
Speaker 2: rhythm and ship, So fuck it, play me some ship.
Speaker 2: Let me talk about the hood, the nigga last night,
Speaker 2: wooky womp, and and then and the more, I guess
Speaker 2: you say success came with it.
Speaker 6: I still never looked at like, yeah, nigga, m C
Speaker 6: eight and I'm around the world.
Speaker 2: Some niggas do, though, Some niggas some niggas. Some niggas
Speaker 2: like I'm too good. I look at it like I
Speaker 2: don't give a fuck. Whether you saw a hundred million
Speaker 2: or you saw the hundred records, we all started from
Speaker 2: the same shit. So some niggas like to look at
Speaker 2: themselves bigger than then, like they.
Speaker 4: Say the program of what hip hop was.
Speaker 3: Then the niggas don't never don't never get acknowledged. Then
Speaker 3: the niggas that don't get the like hum, I'd like
Speaker 3: humble niggas. I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 2: If you're riding around and Rose Royce's and you got
Speaker 2: a private plane and womp the womp.
Speaker 4: Just be a humble nigga.
Speaker 3: You know what, though, I'm gonna tell you this, if
Speaker 3: you ever noticed, the great ones are often the most
Speaker 3: humble niggas. Like I was just telling Brian when we
Speaker 3: came in. If you meet Wayne Tune is one of
Speaker 3: the coolest niggas you ever want to meet. He gonna
Speaker 3: come in here and shake everybody's hand, He gonna sit
Speaker 3: in here with you, he gonna make sure you straight.
Speaker 4: He's just a cool dude.
Speaker 3: Same thing with Scarface, same thing with all of them
Speaker 3: do same thing with Kendrick. All of them is very
Speaker 3: cool people. They don't sit up at like oh they superstars.
Speaker 3: They very regular people.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 7: You know why?
Speaker 1: You know why?
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm humble. It's hell, you know, And and I
Speaker 6: think a reason, that a thing, that something that taught
Speaker 6: me to be humble. You know, we we both noticed. Hey,
Speaker 6: my niggas is crazy as hell.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So so if I even look mad or frown or something,
Speaker 6: this niggas gonna start tearing it up and I can't
Speaker 6: stop him.
Speaker 7: So I'm I'm gonna walk around and be the nicest
Speaker 7: person that you can.
Speaker 6: You can you can see I'm a smile, I'm gonna
Speaker 6: shake hands, I'm gonna be really nice, and I'm gonna
Speaker 6: I'm ana chill.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna be cool because I know these niggas crazy.
Speaker 7: I can't even look mad. They gonna tear this motherfucker down,
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: And I learned that, you know, and and and and
Speaker 6: I guess it over the years is just in my
Speaker 6: personality now.
Speaker 7: And I figured out how to, you know, how to
Speaker 7: how to move around motherfuckers. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I just figured, man, you just got to be I mean,
Speaker 2: I know sometimes it don't you know. You got to
Speaker 2: watch your surroundings and mother fuckers and you know it's
Speaker 2: jealous motherfuckers because of what you do or what you accomplish.
Speaker 2: That's always gonna be there. But you know, I just
Speaker 2: like to consider myself a regular nigga, so I don't
Speaker 2: offend a regular nigga, you feel me, That's all. That's
Speaker 2: that's where I come from. I don't want I don't
Speaker 2: want to offend a regular nigga. A nigga still out there,
Speaker 2: you know, because it has been fortunate that I've been
Speaker 2: able to do certain shit that a regular nigga's not
Speaker 2: gonna be able to do, and not to say that
Speaker 2: that you that you can't never you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Regular niggas can take trips and go on vacations and
Speaker 2: work hard and take their females somewhere and have whatever
Speaker 2: you want to have to accomplish shit. But you know,
Speaker 2: there's things that I've done that a motherfucker will be
Speaker 2: able to say, Oh, you ain't gonna never be able
Speaker 2: to do that, or you ain't gon never be able.
Speaker 1: To do that.
Speaker 2: But still I don't like to floss that or flaunt
Speaker 2: that or uh shiit my accomplishments or just as yours
Speaker 2: as if you're working in nine to five every day
Speaker 2: you get a bonus check or motherfucker, you know, buying
Speaker 2: my house or nigga, fuck it, I just made it
Speaker 2: home today. You feel mean, that's my least why I
Speaker 2: want to fit in with the regular nigga. So I
Speaker 2: guess that's why I try to stay. You know, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't security guarding up and you don't move with
Speaker 2: a pack of packing, you know, nigga, you catch me, nigga,
Speaker 2: I'm with one nigga.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You know what I want
Speaker 3: to ask. I want to ask you this spice because
Speaker 3: you can't. Eight has been very open to butt it.
Speaker 3: When you first got your deal, man, right, you were
Speaker 3: signed the Jive right or you were you on an
Speaker 3: independent label at first?
Speaker 6: I was on an independent label Tryad Records at first,
Speaker 6: I think, and that was like the first first.
Speaker 7: Uh maybe half a year or not of nineteen ninety m.
Speaker 3: So y'all kind of came in the same way, both
Speaker 3: through independent labels that got picked up by a major situation, right, right,
Speaker 3: So was your paperwork right when you first started?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 6: Now, well I first signed with the independent, I was straight,
Speaker 6: but when I got the job it was it was
Speaker 6: it was.
Speaker 7: The whole contract was one side.
Speaker 4: So after all them records, it is your first joint
Speaker 4: when Platinum didn't it?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, we did like nine hundred thousand, and I'm pretty
Speaker 6: sure after that it was plattum by the end.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Okay, So, despite the fact that y'all both came in
Speaker 3: selling the Gang of Records, didn't nobody ever come to
Speaker 3: you at some point and say, hey, man, we need
Speaker 3: to keep him happy. Let's let's renegotiate his contract and
Speaker 3: rewrite his contract to make it a little bit more
Speaker 3: lucrative on his end.
Speaker 7: That never happened, hell naw man.
Speaker 6: So basically sad contract a speaking he So basically you
Speaker 6: got I fucked the whole time you were signing the Shock,
Speaker 6: the whole.
Speaker 7: Time I was on the label, the whole time. I
Speaker 7: even I even brought him eat forty.
Speaker 6: And then I asked him to see if they were renegotiating.
Speaker 6: They still wouldn't renegotiate. So you brought them E forty.
Speaker 6: I brought forty up. I told my manager, chance to
Speaker 6: go get forty a deal up there, jive. After I
Speaker 6: took forty on tour with me, with me and uh
Speaker 6: Scarface and and Ali and R Kelly and and and
Speaker 6: and high five you know the high five huh from
Speaker 6: Houston for something.
Speaker 4: It was, uh was the R and B group that
Speaker 4: was signed to Luke Records, Yeah, they was.
Speaker 6: It was It was htown, Yeah, And we we went
Speaker 6: to Granda State University. I had Rogers tour bus. Forty
Speaker 6: had his own tour bus.
Speaker 7: We don't.
Speaker 6: We went on tour. I gave forty like ten minutes
Speaker 6: of my show, every show I did. And we got
Speaker 6: back home and I, you know what I and I
Speaker 6: told him to go get told, told told chance to
Speaker 6: go get him a deal.
Speaker 4: Up there at Jive.
Speaker 7: You no, forty might have been working on some other
Speaker 7: stuff with Gives that.
Speaker 6: I didn't know about, but I know that I know
Speaker 6: what I did, you know what I'm saying. So and
Speaker 6: once I did that, they still didn't want to renegoti yet.
Speaker 4: So who got who got you your deal?
Speaker 1: That Jive? Uh? One?
Speaker 6: A seven proof was just out there, you know rocket,
Speaker 6: you know, out there in and out there you know
Speaker 6: on the on the remember the box, Yeah, it was
Speaker 6: the number one. Did he owned the box? And then
Speaker 6: he came here come gives.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 6: They called Piso, you know piz oh eight. Remember remember
Speaker 6: he used to DJ for forty and short uh huh.
Speaker 6: So so Barry Wise called Piso and and I was
Speaker 6: sitting over there at the time, and I heard he
Speaker 6: put he put Barry Wise on the loud speaker, and
Speaker 6: Barry Wise was like, where's where's spikes one at? And
Speaker 6: and Piso looked at me and his his finger over
Speaker 6: his listen said, man, don't say shit. You know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying, just wait, and I got my lawyers and
Speaker 6: ship together or whatever. And you know, they even they
Speaker 6: even said they was like they it'll advised me not
Speaker 6: to sign the contract. I made certain provisions on there
Speaker 6: that that that that would make it semi cool. But
Speaker 6: the contract was not cool at all. You know, the
Speaker 6: record labels back then would take a motherfucking poverty strict
Speaker 6: in the ass.
Speaker 7: Nigga broke from doing.
Speaker 6: You know, trying to get it and give him thirty
Speaker 6: forty thousand the back thing. You think thirty forty thousands
Speaker 6: some real money, you know what I'm saying. They you know,
Speaker 6: and you gonna sign any motherfucking thing. I used to
Speaker 6: sell a dope on the street nobody ever heard of
Speaker 6: in the city, nobody ever heard of. I didn't think
Speaker 6: I was gonna be shit. It'll be nothing, man. And
Speaker 6: now to this day, I could to they today, I
Speaker 6: could go to Japan and pack the house, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. But I didn't think I was gonna
Speaker 6: be shipped, and and and they knew I thought I wouldn't.
Speaker 6: I didn't think I was gonna be shipping, and they
Speaker 6: knew I was poverty stricking.
Speaker 7: I didn't have.
Speaker 6: You know, it was living in a condominium, you know,
Speaker 6: a condo, and me and my sister and my mom
Speaker 6: and in my and my step pops paying the bills there.
Speaker 6: Uh you know, Robin Peter to pay Paul of the
Speaker 6: motherfucker election intricity.
Speaker 1: To get cut off.
Speaker 6: I'm walking to school with holes in my in my
Speaker 6: mother fucking tennis shoes. When it rain, I get home
Speaker 6: with wet sox.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. I was a broke ass nigga.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: The hip hop game saves me, so you know when
Speaker 6: and I was trying to get up out of that ship.
Speaker 6: And of course i'mone sign a fucking contract with a
Speaker 6: major deal. I don't give a fuck what the contract say.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, You're gonna sign that ship, nigga, ain't.
Speaker 7: I'm I'm walking around with holes in my shoes, not
Speaker 7: my socks, my shoes, nigga, My socks is wet. You
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. So hell yeah, I'm signing this ship.
Speaker 7: You know, we out here, jacket niggas man. You know
Speaker 7: what I'm saying, We all here stealing cars. Uh and
Speaker 7: and Jackiet.
Speaker 6: Motherfuckers. I'm running from the police, nigga, twelve o'clock midnight,
Speaker 6: hopping fences, the helicopters and all of that ship. Nigga,
Speaker 6: we out there getting damn out there in the town.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, and and and the in
Speaker 6: the game, just just you.
Speaker 7: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So fuck yeah, I was gonna sign a contract, whatever
Speaker 6: the fucking contracts say, give me the.
Speaker 7: Fuck up out of this ship.
Speaker 6: It's just gonna give me enough money to get me
Speaker 6: the fuck out of here where I can go, buy
Speaker 6: me an apartment or or a house somewhere else and
Speaker 6: get out of this ship. And then then give me
Speaker 6: the goddamn contract.
Speaker 7: Let me sign.
Speaker 2: Did you have did you have a middle man? Was
Speaker 2: there a middle man involved in your deal?
Speaker 6: Well, well, the only middle man was Jazz, which was
Speaker 6: the was the Well no, he wasn't even involved in
Speaker 6: a deal.
Speaker 7: I had a managery I had at the time.
Speaker 6: Was his name was John crashma and and and I
Speaker 6: had to I fired him because he sucked up the
Speaker 6: role in minister society. He he didn't he didn't stay
Speaker 6: in contract, tacked with the Hughes brothers and ship for
Speaker 6: me to get the old dog roll.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So hold on, Spice wasn't supposed to play old dog. Hey,
Speaker 3: Spice was gonna play old dog. He there, Spice, no
Speaker 3: hold on me to get him back, hold on me
Speaker 3: to get him back on, Get Spice one back on.
Speaker 4: We got a.
Speaker 6: Can you think to connect them?
Speaker 1: Talk?
Speaker 4: What the hell he's probably trying to call back?
Speaker 1: Here we go to see can you think to connect them?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: He a called back, but yeah, but you know what, though, man,
Speaker 3: The crazy part about that is, though, man, the story
Speaker 3: is all too common, like you says, young black kids
Speaker 3: from poverty right that don't have see no way out,
Speaker 3: and they get this opportunity of a lifetime and it
Speaker 3: is life change. And you know, despite the fuckery they
Speaker 3: go on, people's lives usually change for the better. But
Speaker 3: I think that's just real sad, man, That's just real sad.
Speaker 3: Because he made jive millions of dollars.
Speaker 2: I'm Spice was large. He was my you know, my
Speaker 2: partner in crime. Me and Spice hooked up kind of
Speaker 2: early in our careers. But like you said, it's the
Speaker 2: same fucking story, you know, and I'd be like, shit,
Speaker 2: my record's doing like seven eight hundred thousand. They cracking
Speaker 2: the gold mark whatever spice shit was cracking platinum, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, how come? I'm like, how we still cause
Speaker 2: you looking at platinum niggas like Cube and you know,
Speaker 2: Public Enemy and LLL and them niggas was on another level.
Speaker 2: So for me to see a nigga who had like
Speaker 2: two and three platinum records and nigga me and him
Speaker 2: still sitting up like what's up my nigga, I'm like,
Speaker 2: how come you ain't up there like you you're supposed
Speaker 2: to be up there, like I get where I'm at, Nigga,
Speaker 2: I'm riding.
Speaker 4: The gold surfboard. You know, surfboard, nigga.
Speaker 6: You you up there, you skating on the platinums and
Speaker 6: you're still sitting right here with me.
Speaker 4: What's going on?
Speaker 2: But like you said, it's always that the same story
Speaker 2: of I'm not getting no motherfucking royalties. My budgets are
Speaker 2: probably getting cut in half because who's ever in the
Speaker 2: middle receiving that check? You get me, they already from
Speaker 2: soon as it hit they death. I'm tearing this motherfucking half.
Speaker 2: You get me, so and then you, like you said,
Speaker 2: you never have a motherfucker come around and go, Okay,
Speaker 2: I've eaten enough.
Speaker 4: Let me let a nigga gonna get his thing. No
Speaker 4: niggas back up here.
Speaker 2: Niggas be like. Niggas be like fuck that. Instead of
Speaker 2: giving a nigga his just due or his his his
Speaker 2: percentage that he should get or the money he should get,
Speaker 2: niggas be feeling like, nigga, you owe me, so fuck that,
Speaker 2: so I don't give fuck. I got you your record deal,
Speaker 2: you're able to do videos, and you're riding around in
Speaker 2: a nice car and you gotta not house. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: did you a favor, so I'm gonna continue to fuck
Speaker 2: you until I can't fuck you no more. And you
Speaker 2: be grateful for that instead of like going, but wait
Speaker 2: a minute, I'm doing I'm writing all my songs.
Speaker 4: I'm doing everything I gotta do.
Speaker 2: But you feel like I owe you half of what
Speaker 2: I you know what I'm saying, You taking half of
Speaker 2: the shit from the top you get me then got
Speaker 2: the nerve to double back and be like, okay, now
Speaker 2: where's my percent You done.
Speaker 4: Already took half of the money up front.
Speaker 2: Then a nigga come back around the corner and be like, now,
Speaker 2: let me give my fifteen percent as your manager or
Speaker 2: some shit you get me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, crazy, that's crazy. So Spice then a manager.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm gonna take half the money from your budget, Okay,
Speaker 2: and then I'm gonna turn around and double back, and
Speaker 2: now I want fifteen percent for being your manager.
Speaker 4: Nigga cold back there.
Speaker 2: Then I'm telling you rich niggas all hit it out
Speaker 2: them niggas was cold as far. All the so called
Speaker 2: you know, middle men, managers or whatever. And I ain't
Speaker 2: gonna say all of them, but god damn it, back
Speaker 2: when I was coming up in the rap game, demn
Speaker 2: niggas was fucking niggas. I don't give a fuck if
Speaker 2: you didn't know, if you didn't know shit about publishing
Speaker 2: and contracts and royalties and all that shit, and you
Speaker 2: was like a nigga like me and Spice, Nigga, what
Speaker 2: record contract?
Speaker 4: What forty grand on the table?
Speaker 2: Not knowing that goddamn nigga, you're supposed to be getting
Speaker 2: money for your writers. You supposed to be getting money
Speaker 2: for publishing and your beat making. You supposed to be
Speaker 2: getting this and that, Nigga, you ain't knowing shit. Nigga,
Speaker 2: hand you are checking the beginning and you take that
Speaker 2: motherfucking go Nigga. I'm cracking not knowing that a nigga
Speaker 2: finna be collecting your ship for the rest of his
Speaker 2: fucking life.
Speaker 4: You get life for the rest of his life.
Speaker 2: When you sitting up and you ain't recording no more
Speaker 2: and them little publishing checks is coming in for three
Speaker 2: and four grand, you won't never see the motherfuckers another
Speaker 2: nigga electing the hard work that you put in because
Speaker 2: they feel like Nigga, I walked you in the fucking door.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the movie rose, so before you got cut off,
Speaker 3: you said you were supposed to be Old Dog.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was. I had I had the script. I
Speaker 7: had a script. I was reading the script.
Speaker 6: I just didn't know that my manager didn't contact the
Speaker 6: contacted Hughes brother than say ship.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine how minutes would have been But this
Speaker 3: dude playing Old Dog and this dude, you know Nigga
Speaker 3: would have killt that ship.
Speaker 4: But minus came out pretty good if you ask, Yeah.
Speaker 7: Nigga, Nigga would have killed that ship. But at the
Speaker 7: same time, you know, like like aight is right?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 7: Lawrence Tate did.
Speaker 6: His motherfucker da You know, I'm he killed that ship.
Speaker 4: Who knows?
Speaker 2: I mean, pack was supposed to be in it. You know,
Speaker 2: everything happens for a reason and shit, but like I said,
Speaker 2: you got it. You got a test to people who
Speaker 2: like you say, a motherfucker was in charge of your ship,
Speaker 2: and and the nigga's taking fifteen motherfuckers and the nigga's
Speaker 2: not even looking out on ship. And that just goes
Speaker 2: to show you.
Speaker 4: Maybe that was listen because maybe he was gonna take
Speaker 4: that money too. Ship ain't gonna take everything you can get.
Speaker 6: I mean, I mean, well, shit, you know a lot
Speaker 6: of things you know, could have could have could have
Speaker 6: came about through that movie and everything, even you know, uh,
Speaker 6: the the when when Pat got into it with the
Speaker 6: Hughes brothers at my video.
Speaker 4: I never like eight.
Speaker 6: When Adam was running up to hell Man, I ran
Speaker 6: down the hill. I didn't know who he was, and
Speaker 6: I was, you know, I was about to try to
Speaker 6: close lining back down the hill.
Speaker 7: Until I figured out who he was. You know what
Speaker 7: I'm saying.
Speaker 6: I got close up on him and I was like,
Speaker 6: oh shit, you know what I'm saying. And then I
Speaker 6: said I see a dude just go up the hill,
Speaker 6: and then I looked down the hill and I did
Speaker 6: the little cut thing on my neck like hey, cut
Speaker 6: that ship out, Like what the fuck though, nigga, Yeah,
Speaker 6: what the fuck? You know what I'm saying, Like I
Speaker 6: helped my nigga, You know what I'm saying, Like I
Speaker 6: made shown them niggas didn't come up that hill try
Speaker 6: to fuck with him or whatever they was doing or
Speaker 6: whatever happened, because I didn't see what happened down there
Speaker 6: at the bottom of the hill. All I all I
Speaker 6: all I knew was that was that I seen Alan
Speaker 6: or I I had to help the nigga, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, because he didn't you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: He was covered with blood and shit, and I'm like, man,
Speaker 6: you know, hey, man, whatever y'all niggas doing down there,
Speaker 6: cut that ship out, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 6: I'm tripping, like, y'all do you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: But I didn't know what happened down there. But if
Speaker 6: they ever if they ever got ever mad at me or.
Speaker 7: Have any top of feelings towards me, man, tell him
Speaker 7: I was trying to help him. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: I wasn't. You know what I'm saying. It wasn't nothing
Speaker 7: of me. Uh you know, I wouldn't. I was not
Speaker 7: happy that that should.
Speaker 6: Have happened in my video. And then PACK felt bad
Speaker 6: because he kept trying to get me to all of
Speaker 6: the movies, said he can get me to who he
Speaker 6: had kept calling me to everybody every time he did
Speaker 6: a movie. You called me up there. Shit, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: And I'm like, man, you know I did, you know,
Speaker 7: But at the same time, I really wanted to. I
Speaker 7: really wanted to play that role.
Speaker 6: And you know, I got some I got some things
Speaker 6: I'm working on now, you know, my my own little
Speaker 6: movie adventures. I'm working with with a few people. I
Speaker 6: don't want to say no names because I don't want
Speaker 6: to jinx it and shit. But you know I'm gonna
Speaker 6: need you. I'm gonna need you to come through eight.
Speaker 6: And I've been talking to Caffeine crazy ass too, so
Speaker 6: you know we're gonna get something to be.
Speaker 7: Something about to kick off. Nigga.
Speaker 6: When we get off the phone and I talked to you,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell you everything. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: but I just don't want to say it out here
Speaker 6: because I don't want to jinx it because it's some
Speaker 6: real good shit.
Speaker 3: I feel you, Spice. That's the thing, man, whenever you
Speaker 3: got good stuff going, bro, you can't tell everybody because
Speaker 3: just as many people be praying for you, dog's remember,
Speaker 3: it's even more people trying to pray against it happen,
Speaker 3: putting all kind of bad energy in there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, niggaga, then you know. But but eight eight, my nigga,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. So I mean, for sure
Speaker 6: you're good whatever whatever whatever go down, if if if
Speaker 6: if whatever it's going.
Speaker 7: Down, if it's if it's a uh, if it's a
Speaker 7: downer to be made, man, believe you must best believe.
Speaker 7: Probably gonna call eight call my niggas like niggas the
Speaker 7: money on the line.
Speaker 3: Nigga, let me get Let me ask you this, Spice,
Speaker 3: because I know Pocket was your man. You and him
Speaker 3: ran real tough. Did you kind of think he was
Speaker 3: kind of out of pocket a little bit for.
Speaker 4: Beating on them dudes like that.
Speaker 6: I don't, you know, I don't know because I didn't
Speaker 6: I don't know what was going going on at the
Speaker 6: bottom of that hill.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I didn't see it, Okay, I got you.
Speaker 7: I didn't see my my cousins and stuff. They was
Speaker 7: down there.
Speaker 6: My niggas from Promona, you know, Tyrans Uh eight T
Speaker 6: Bone and Ship T Bone Nim was down.
Speaker 7: There with with Uh with Mopreme and Macadochi's.
Speaker 6: Nim and I think and thug likee niggas and and
Speaker 6: Uh and Uh. Some of my niggas from the one
Speaker 6: A seven Facts and Bay niggas was down there and.
Speaker 7: Ship or whatever. But you know, I didn't know what
Speaker 7: what happened down there, but I was.
Speaker 6: I was kind of upset over the whole thing. But
Speaker 6: you know, I wasn't mad at Pot because that was
Speaker 6: between him and you know him, him and him and
Speaker 6: the Hughes.
Speaker 7: Brothers and Ship.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to say every story Bay handles different.
Speaker 3: Everybody stuff different, whatever. I just know the nineties was
Speaker 3: a many time dog. The nineties it was. It's so
Speaker 3: soft now you can't even steal on a nigga. You
Speaker 3: gonna get sued and everything else for somebody talking crazy
Speaker 3: to you. If somebody says something nowadays and you bomb
Speaker 3: on that person when you see them you are either
Speaker 3: going to jail or getting sued.
Speaker 7: All them niggas don't shoot you.
Speaker 2: It's because, like I said, today is uh, it's a
Speaker 2: different time right now. Man, everything is about everything is
Speaker 2: about content and creating ship and being able to be whatever.
Speaker 4: So you know they use that word real.
Speaker 2: Lightly today snitching and you know all that type of ship.
Speaker 2: You know, I come from where it was a different meaning.
Speaker 2: You get me, mother fucking ship for you, run over
Speaker 2: and mother for you, run over a nigga skate and jail.
Speaker 4: You snitching today? You get me.
Speaker 2: Everything is qualified as snitching. It's just a different time.
Speaker 2: You get me if you came from I don't know.
Speaker 2: I came from different era.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 7: You know, nigga, we in a time where you can't
Speaker 7: even eat a hot dog you gave.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's real.
Speaker 2: I mean like really everything everything, and like you, we
Speaker 2: don't really we don't, we don't really, Uh you know, Spice,
Speaker 2: I tell you, I'm like I tell everybody, we don't
Speaker 2: really fuck with you know that subject you know on
Speaker 2: the show because you know it's a very sensitive matter.
Speaker 2: You get me right right you You you won't be
Speaker 2: able to do a concert anymore from certain things you say,
Speaker 2: you won't be able to celebrate, you won't ever be
Speaker 2: able to So I try to tread lightly when it comes.
Speaker 7: To something on that subject.
Speaker 2: Like you said, it's supposed to be able to have
Speaker 2: freedom of speech, but we all know, and everybody in
Speaker 2: here know, there's certain things you can't say about certain
Speaker 2: groups because they just won't have it.
Speaker 4: Man. Like you say, freedom of speaks, just watch what
Speaker 4: you say.
Speaker 2: You definitely now Now, like I said, I don't really
Speaker 2: speak on that, but I'm gonna ask you a question
Speaker 2: still because you will you you know, you like the
Speaker 2: slide ship in you've seen all this controversy with what
Speaker 2: what what is it? What's his name? Blueface? And the
Speaker 2: ship about when they had the strippers in the house, right,
Speaker 2: he got strippers in his house. He got his kid here,
Speaker 2: you know, his little son, little son in there looking
Speaker 2: for some tato chips or something. So he got he
Speaker 2: got about three four girls in the living room. You know,
Speaker 2: they stripping, they doing their thing. So the son in
Speaker 2: there looking for tato chips. He asked the son, are
Speaker 2: you in here looking forotato chips? When his ass in
Speaker 2: the living room?
Speaker 4: Are you gay?
Speaker 7: What?
Speaker 4: He asked? The son are you gay?
Speaker 2: Because you are in here looking for tato chips and
Speaker 2: not looking at ass in the living room. So this
Speaker 2: is the question I want to say, because everybody's in
Speaker 2: the uproar about that question. Do you feel it was
Speaker 2: out of line?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 6: It was definitely inappropriate? Yeah, that was That was not
Speaker 6: a line, It was inappropriate line. Okay, I'm asking you
Speaker 6: another question. They're trying to introduce stuff like that in
Speaker 6: school to elementary kids. So what's improper? Would you like
Speaker 6: your kid being talked at in school or because or
Speaker 6: do you feel he's asking a question? Because right now,
Speaker 6: at this age, do you have to question your kid
Speaker 6: about his sexuality because of what's going on seeing everywhere
Speaker 6: right see? If you want to ask your child is
Speaker 6: he of a different sex nature? When you know they
Speaker 6: are openly So what is your answer to that? What
Speaker 6: do you think about that? You answer me, I'm asking
Speaker 6: all of y'all.
Speaker 3: Well, you know what I think, man, I think we
Speaker 3: living in real periless times right now, bro, because I
Speaker 3: think we asking questions to kids like you know you
Speaker 3: think about it. In some cases, these kids are as
Speaker 3: young as six and seven years old. What do they
Speaker 3: know about that? Outside of all they want to do
Speaker 3: is go to school and play with their friends. They
Speaker 3: want to go to school, right, play with their friends,
Speaker 3: go outside, play football, get dirty, same stuff we was doing.
Speaker 3: So you introducing stuff, man, I almost think it's almost
Speaker 3: like an inducting an introduction to stuff. I think people
Speaker 3: are being programmed right now more than they ever are,
Speaker 3: because see, what they're slowly doing is taking the rights
Speaker 3: from the parents right to where if your child comes
Speaker 3: home and decides that they want to go be becom
Speaker 3: if Tom decides he wants to become Tamantha, you're supposed
Speaker 3: to let that happen and not have no say so
Speaker 3: about it, or they ain't come and take them out
Speaker 3: your house.
Speaker 2: I just want to clarify that we have nothing against
Speaker 2: oh nothing at all lest BNS right now, Okay, but
Speaker 2: I just want to I just want to clarify that
Speaker 2: so people don't think that, so people don't think that
Speaker 2: we're one sided.
Speaker 4: But I'm just playing.
Speaker 2: I'm playing Devil's advocate because again, you see protests happening
Speaker 2: at schools where they're trying to introduce textbooks or literature
Speaker 2: that that basically be who you want to be as
Speaker 2: a child. You know, the rainbow here and the two
Speaker 2: kids in the book or whatever they're pushing the wait,
Speaker 2: is it wrong because that's going on for you to
Speaker 2: go son, are you yay?
Speaker 4: But how is he presenting everywhere?
Speaker 6: It's everywhere, It's on commercials, when you watch TV, it's
Speaker 6: on bus bendits, it's on the way he did in
Speaker 6: every culture, right, and like saying that it's wrong? But
Speaker 6: now is it wrong to go hmmm because he said,
Speaker 6: you're not in here watching his ass bouncing. Of course,
Speaker 6: of course he's being you know what I'm saying, he's
Speaker 6: doing it for content, Okay, of course, but as a
Speaker 6: regular motherfucker, which you feel that you would have to
Speaker 6: question your child because of what is going on right
Speaker 6: now in that type of situation, definitely have to.
Speaker 3: Talk to your child or to let them know that, hey,
Speaker 3: in this household, this is how we do things, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean?
Speaker 2: And they feel it's wrong for you to question your child. Listen,
Speaker 2: because you're supposed to let him do what he wanted
Speaker 2: to do. You're supposed to accept your choice. So is
Speaker 2: it wrong to like them?
Speaker 7: I don't tell you like what what your what your
Speaker 7: grandmama said, what your aunt said.
Speaker 4: What you can't. You can't go off for what your
Speaker 4: grandmother and let me let me, let me, let me
Speaker 4: say it first.
Speaker 7: Let me say it first.
Speaker 6: For them for them to know that, they had to
Speaker 6: see it somewhere, They had to see it somewhere. They
Speaker 6: had to learn it, they had to see it somewhere
Speaker 6: for them to even know that. If they don't, you
Speaker 6: don't know what you don't see. You know, I I
Speaker 6: personally don't think that that you can be born in
Speaker 6: and you know, and and and be that that way. See,
Speaker 6: we're not going We're not We don't want to go
Speaker 6: off of that. We don't want to go to the
Speaker 6: opinion of you know, we don't want to focus on
Speaker 6: if you're born or another. That's not what we're going off.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, as a parent, as a as a
Speaker 2: as a parent, you got a kid going to school,
Speaker 2: there are six seven you know. You you know you
Speaker 2: could you you could be sitting up right now watching
Speaker 2: regular TV with your child and you'll see two women engaged.
Speaker 2: You'll see two men engaged, and your kid is sitting there.
Speaker 2: So is it wrong for you to ask your kid
Speaker 2: that question?
Speaker 6: I think you definitely better talk to your kids about
Speaker 6: it's wrong. But you know you're not wrong for asking him,
Speaker 6: but the way that he the way that that uh
Speaker 6: uh that blue, and the way he presented the question
Speaker 6: to his child was wrong.
Speaker 7: He was supposed to do that shit in private.
Speaker 2: But you know, like I said, this is the world
Speaker 2: of this is the world of content creation, and this
Speaker 2: is the world of Instagram and Internet and social media
Speaker 2: and everything is a joke and nothing is taken seriously.
Speaker 4: So we get that.
Speaker 2: But on a different serious note, would you feel that
Speaker 2: would be a question that you would have to present
Speaker 2: to your child or do you even present that.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't even I wouldn't even bring the question of
Speaker 6: I wouldn't even bring the question of unless unless I've
Speaker 6: seen something that was really you know, really.
Speaker 2: So different different question, different times, still, yes, Ryan, different question,
Speaker 2: different times.
Speaker 7: You got to take him.
Speaker 2: Somewhere through that prior the time is your child because
Speaker 2: the kid coming home with a school book that you
Speaker 2: get me?
Speaker 1: What do you do?
Speaker 3: What do you think you staying on your morals and principle?
Speaker 3: See the thing will we can't get done? This the
Speaker 3: thing we can't do and the thing I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: do is I'm never going to sacrifice my integrity just
Speaker 3: because mother, the rest of the world is going goofy,
Speaker 3: you feel what I'm saying. I'm never gonna do that now, people.
Speaker 3: I'm respectful of all people.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: I don't have no problem with what people decide to do.
Speaker 3: I'm all about choice, right, But the moment you start
Speaker 3: really subliminally programming children, because that's what they're doing. They're
Speaker 3: programming these kids in the school today, they're really programming them.
Speaker 4: And if you're not careful, I wouldn't care what I
Speaker 4: had to do.
Speaker 3: If I still had little kids eight my kids wouldn't
Speaker 3: be going to no public schools.
Speaker 4: They going to public schools.
Speaker 3: If I had little kids there, if I had grandchildren
Speaker 3: right now, and even if my kids couldn't afford that,
Speaker 3: my grandkids would be going to a private school, because
Speaker 3: you have to. At some point, you got to put
Speaker 3: your foot down and say hold on, enough of the
Speaker 3: bullshit is bullshit. This bullshit is.
Speaker 4: Going on right now.
Speaker 3: Like I saw some shit right now to what they
Speaker 3: say it that the doctors can no longer tell a
Speaker 3: woman they have a vagina. It's called a bonus hole. Now,
Speaker 3: what the fuck is going on? Wow, it's a bonus hole.
Speaker 3: There's a bonus hole now. So now and it's like
Speaker 3: one of them. You don't call it a pussy no more.
Speaker 3: You call that motherfucker, that hole, that third hole.
Speaker 6: That bonus holey, My nigga, say, baby, what's cracking?
Speaker 4: Let me get some of that bonus hold.
Speaker 5: And now you give me a scenario. It's like my
Speaker 5: son right now, you talk about the private school.
Speaker 4: So my son is four.
Speaker 5: We put him in a in a private school, a
Speaker 5: language school, so he could learn all the different languages
Speaker 5: and everything. This particular year, he's one of two maybe
Speaker 5: three boys in a class of about ten eleven girls.
Speaker 5: So you fall back into that same kind of a
Speaker 5: scenario that now he's around majority girls now, and that
Speaker 5: was a serious concern even even with his mom, like
Speaker 5: you know, are y'all gonna bring more girls or brought
Speaker 5: more boys into this class. It's a real type of thing.
Speaker 5: You put him in this type of scenario, he's gonna
Speaker 5: learn in that manner just is what it is around
Speaker 5: that every single day, that's what he see what he see.
Speaker 5: So you know, the private school aspect of it, you're
Speaker 5: still gonna run into it, but in an indirect way
Speaker 5: if that makes sense, yeah.
Speaker 3: Or either that would homeschool minds. I'm being real with you, dog,
Speaker 3: It's just certain stuff that you gotta put your foot
Speaker 3: down because before I'm anything, you know. So, I'm a
Speaker 3: man of God.
Speaker 7: They don't teach that in the Muslim school.
Speaker 3: And I live on certain principles and not seeing I'm
Speaker 3: super religious, right, I don't put religion on nobody, but
Speaker 3: I'm a man of God, and I believe certain things.
Speaker 3: Can't nobody stop me. But you're the same token. I
Speaker 3: believe the people have a right to choice right when
Speaker 3: they're mature enough to understand what it is they get into. Now,
Speaker 3: anytime you're talking to somebody to me under fifteen, dog
Speaker 3: about that stuff right there, you kind of out of
Speaker 3: pocket because what are you talking to kids in kindergarten
Speaker 3: about that?
Speaker 1: For?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just like they just did the stuff with
Speaker 3: the Muppets. They turned the Homeboy gons over to where
Speaker 3: he turned into a girl to.
Speaker 4: Go to the thing.
Speaker 3: But my thing is this, If y'all doing that in
Speaker 3: them adult shows, I don't care, but this is something
Speaker 3: that's catered towards to the children.
Speaker 4: So are y'all doing it in this show?
Speaker 7: I'm just tripping.
Speaker 6: They take they take they take the Bible, and they
Speaker 6: take God out of school.
Speaker 4: But then they allow that.
Speaker 5: You know, it was introduced to us, you know in
Speaker 5: the in the late eighties, early nineties. I was in
Speaker 5: middle school and I was in sixth grade and they
Speaker 5: had a program and we really didn't talk about nothing
Speaker 5: until that time. But when we got the sixth seventh grade,
Speaker 5: there was a program specifically and it was called SFA
Speaker 5: with Skills for Adolescents, and in that class, they was
Speaker 5: rawlling uncut in that class because the neighborhood that we
Speaker 5: lived in, you was dealing with real life shit. You
Speaker 5: was dealing with real STDs. And then ladies will tell you,
Speaker 5: like there was a lady who was here and she
Speaker 5: will say, this is what this disease is. This is
Speaker 5: what you get, this is what happened. So we didn't
Speaker 5: never talk about none of that stuff until I was
Speaker 5: like in six seventh grade. But when it was coming
Speaker 5: from the neighborhood that we came from, going.
Speaker 2: Uncut, I mean I got introduced to sex education in
Speaker 2: school and stuff like that, but me growing up, I
Speaker 2: was never introduced to you get me, that just wasn't
Speaker 2: something that the old school grandparents and shit, they didn't
Speaker 2: talk about Now you knew somebody you knew, because let's
Speaker 2: face it, you knew somebody who was gay. You didn't
Speaker 2: talk about it. They did their thing, you know, if
Speaker 2: they came over at a family function.
Speaker 4: Or you know, it was I got a cousins. Like
Speaker 4: I said, it wasn't. It was nothing major. Yeah, when
Speaker 4: you get down, you get down. But I wasn't. I
Speaker 4: wasn't taught that. You get me.
Speaker 2: I didn't turn on Saturday morning cartoons and I didn't
Speaker 2: see two men riding on a bike then programming.
Speaker 4: I didn't you get me.
Speaker 2: I didn't go to school and have to open my
Speaker 2: book and learn about somebody who was gay in their profession.
Speaker 2: If they did a job, they just did a job.
Speaker 2: They didn't want they didn't want to speak on this
Speaker 2: person was the first gay person who did this.
Speaker 4: I'm didn't do that. I'm surprised you don't push this
Speaker 4: into this conversation.
Speaker 2: No, just it's just because I just wanted to ask
Speaker 2: the question because it has something to do with the children.
Speaker 2: And you see a lot of you know, now, you
Speaker 2: see a lot of tug of war, like it wasn't like,
Speaker 2: it's no big deal when it's an adult hood you
Speaker 2: get me, we have no problem. But I just say,
Speaker 2: like when when And it's really about the standards of
Speaker 2: what people feel is oh, that's fucked up, but that's
Speaker 2: not fucked up.
Speaker 6: That's fucked up. It would be this that ain't fucked up.
Speaker 6: And it's the way shit is right now. And that's
Speaker 6: what made me bring it up because Okay, you say
Speaker 6: it's fucked up that he said that, but then.
Speaker 2: They doing this shit in school and that's not fucked up.
Speaker 2: So what is fucked up at a certain point to
Speaker 2: where we all get on the same page and go
Speaker 2: that shit is not cool and we all going that
Speaker 2: shit ain't cool.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you this. On the network, we have
Speaker 3: a show is to lesbian women. Right, most gay people
Speaker 3: will tell you what's wrong nowadays.
Speaker 4: I just don't. I just don't get the.
Speaker 2: Like I said, we want our plates quote you get me,
Speaker 2: and we want our rights and we want our whatever whatever,
Speaker 2: But you can't talk about us. You can't put us
Speaker 2: in a comical situation, or you can't address certain shit
Speaker 2: that like no, like if if me as a parent
Speaker 2: has an issue with that, I should be able to
Speaker 2: flex that because it has.
Speaker 4: Something to do with my kid.
Speaker 2: But now I got but now it's got to be
Speaker 2: you know, the million man march protest against what I
Speaker 2: want to do for my kid, and we that shit
Speaker 2: Like I don't understand that we all got children.
Speaker 3: I know, AG, you got adult children as well as
Speaker 3: you know, all your children for the most part of adults. Correct,
Speaker 3: yes you got you have a younger child, little ones,
Speaker 3: spice all your kids adults right now, you got.
Speaker 1: Some little ones.
Speaker 4: I got eleven year old.
Speaker 3: Say so you got eleven year old right now? With
Speaker 3: society being with it is is, don't you kind of
Speaker 3: review what your son is doing now more than ever,
Speaker 3: especially the times we're living in.
Speaker 4: Do you police him a little bit more? I do?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean you have to because you don't know
Speaker 6: what what's what's going on with you know, somebody could
Speaker 6: be in influencing him to to to do something he
Speaker 6: ain't really feeling.
Speaker 7: And you know what I'm saying, because uh, trying to
Speaker 7: manipulate him.
Speaker 6: Into like sp just so just social media do that,
Speaker 6: just watch TV can do that.
Speaker 1: You get me?
Speaker 6: You you like you have to you have to be
Speaker 6: able to to be able to watch your kid man,
Speaker 6: or or any situation you have to become. You have
Speaker 6: to become a bigger role model in his life and
Speaker 6: and and have them have him want to be more
Speaker 6: like you than anybody.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying is influential to motherfucker's Yeah.
Speaker 3: Doing with this social media is dangerous because you have
Speaker 3: grown men going to these little girls in boxes.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you, up until a certain age, I
Speaker 4: was on her Instagram with her.
Speaker 6: I had it right in my accounts, Like I said
Speaker 6: my daughter some years ago, Yeah you can have this stuff,
Speaker 6: but I'm here where I can see because you could
Speaker 6: have you and I will have some nigga.
Speaker 4: That's my age trying to be all up in your thing.
Speaker 3: And the thing is when a grown man is talking
Speaker 3: to a young girl, especially a young girl that don't
Speaker 3: have no male presence in her house or no, Yeah,
Speaker 3: they get the liking that attention. The next thing you know,
Speaker 3: they meeting the motherfucker up at seven and lefting some
Speaker 3: damn where and you would never see your daughter.
Speaker 4: Again, never see you do exactly what I told my daughter.
Speaker 7: She was.
Speaker 5: So coming up the way I did. I was never
Speaker 5: when social media came out or they came out with
Speaker 5: the what's the first thing they had? MySpace? Yeah, yeah, MySpace.
Speaker 5: I never had a midspace, never had a Facebook, never
Speaker 5: had any of that stuff because the way I was
Speaker 5: raised it was I looked at that stuff, is that
Speaker 5: look at me, look at me, look at me. In
Speaker 5: a way I was raised was always kind of staying
Speaker 5: out the way. So exactly, you know, I played ball
Speaker 5: and everything, so you know you was gonna be in
Speaker 5: the spotlight here, there and there. But that's how Yeah,
Speaker 5: the same thing you all that being up in there
Speaker 5: my faces even like my Instagram, my business. Now you
Speaker 5: know when I started this my business, people like you
Speaker 5: have to have social media, you have to have social media.
Speaker 5: Well I did social media. I didn't want to win
Speaker 5: against every single thing that I thought about, But if
Speaker 5: you're using it for a business purpose.
Speaker 4: It helped.
Speaker 5: Right going back to what I was talking about before,
Speaker 5: I was against it for the for the reason of
Speaker 5: you don't know who you got on the other line.
Speaker 5: I got, you know, sixty thousand, seventy some thousand followers.
Speaker 5: I don't fool with nobody. But at the end of
Speaker 5: the day, I guarantee you there's there's a big chunk
Speaker 5: of people on there that don't like me in general.
Speaker 4: For no apparent reason. So it is what it is. So, yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm worried about my daughter and I start seeing it.
Speaker 4: I didn't like.
Speaker 5: I said, I didn't know nothing about this Instagram and
Speaker 5: all this stuff. So I get onto her Instagram and
Speaker 5: here she is and talking to somebody that's up in
Speaker 5: like Connecticut. So I start doing this, you know, and
Speaker 5: I start playing with it, and you could tell us
Speaker 5: an adult. So I started looking and start getting the
Speaker 5: address and this, that and the other. There's no kids
Speaker 5: that even live with this address. She thinks she's talking
Speaker 5: to a kid the whole time. Yeah, own man up
Speaker 5: in Connecticut. And I told her, you know, you imagine that,
Speaker 5: you know, somebody come and take you. You'll never see
Speaker 5: your dad again. She like fifth and sixth grade, So
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. For me that that was
Speaker 5: a crazy thing that I had to endure and go
Speaker 5: through that, and I lived and see that.
Speaker 4: Change.
Speaker 2: It change is niggas man. When you come from a
Speaker 2: different time and ship, you know what I'm saying, We
Speaker 2: get from different ship man, like we need to come
Speaker 2: from computers and internet and ship like that.
Speaker 7: We didn't come.
Speaker 2: There was no Yahoo when I was in school. Man,
Speaker 2: it wasn't school. I mean, yeah, it wasn't cell phones tho. No, no,
Speaker 2: I remember. I remember when I first said that house
Speaker 2: phone and ship the whole receipt.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 3: The first cell phone I ever had, it only lasted
Speaker 3: me two months. I had one of them brick phones.
Speaker 4: I went one thought I was a ball of calling
Speaker 4: my mama, calling everybody. That bill Okay, Nigga was five
Speaker 4: grand I said, oh, ship, that ship might have just
Speaker 4: came off my credit. I thought people were just over
Speaker 4: talking about them bills like yeah.
Speaker 2: Cracking Nigga, my Nigga cell phone bill. And when they
Speaker 2: first came out, I think mine. I think I paid
Speaker 2: about two thousand for a cell phone bill.
Speaker 4: Nigga. I ain't pay for nothing because I saw that bill.
Speaker 4: I said, I met my Nigga. I met Nigga.
Speaker 2: I remember when I first went to Europe, Nigga. I
Speaker 2: thought I was at home Nigga, and I got on
Speaker 2: the hotel phone. Nigga was talking to everybody back in
Speaker 2: the hood. Nigga was chatting for about an hour. Then
Speaker 2: Nigga got this.
Speaker 6: They got ready to check out their motherfuckers came to
Speaker 6: the door. They had security by the door. They wouldn't
Speaker 6: let a nigg out of his rule. They like, Nigga,
Speaker 6: you owe us about three grand I'm like, they like, Nigga,
Speaker 6: you called back to America. Nigga, he was on the
Speaker 6: phone for like forty five feet difference. You'd be on
Speaker 6: the phone with somebody at night because Nigga, I'm talking.
Speaker 6: You say it again, Nigga, damn three round dollars on
Speaker 6: a fucking phone bill, Nigga. Nigga fucking inside by Nigga.
Speaker 6: But I've been side the road, feet kicked up, nigg
Speaker 6: the fall looking that. Yeah, Nigga, we're in some foreign
Speaker 6: country right now, Nigga. Yeah, niggas cracking out here, whooping.
Speaker 6: Nigga just chatted like a buffer Nigga downstairs, like is
Speaker 6: he still the motherfucker's downstairs?
Speaker 2: They got Look, they have got a gig of people
Speaker 2: around the motherfucking board downstairs.
Speaker 4: They are is he still all? They like, hell, yeah,
Speaker 4: they how much right now? Two grand? Right now? Lovely,
Speaker 4: And they make about right there.
Speaker 2: They weren't gonna let the nigga check out that way.
Speaker 2: Ain't none of that, None of that running out the
Speaker 2: back door shit with their nigga. It was overwet two
Speaker 2: grand off motherfucking pocket. They want their money now, they
Speaker 2: wanted now.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 3: You know what though, Man, the thing is this right.
Speaker 3: The further we go with technology, man, the more you
Speaker 3: have to police your kids. And we have a time
Speaker 3: now to where parents is trying to be their kids
Speaker 3: friends instead of being a daddy. I always told my
Speaker 3: kids and my sons in particular, I'm not here to
Speaker 3: be your friend.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all you want to right now, but one thing,
Speaker 3: you go appreciate what I'm telling you, and I give
Speaker 3: my kids come back to me, especially my boys grown men.
Speaker 4: Damn, pops, you was right. I told you. I know
Speaker 4: what I'm talking about. We ain't here just we we
Speaker 4: haven't been around this loan just on accident.
Speaker 7: You just go your life, Coach, you better listen to me,
Speaker 7: and shit you gotta take.
Speaker 2: You gotta be you know, you just gotta take the
Speaker 2: lessons that you learned coming up and the mistakes that
Speaker 2: you made. And so I'm of the crazy shit that
Speaker 2: you went through and you just got to inform them.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 2: You know I some shit you get me. So I'm
Speaker 2: trying to I'm trying to put you in a place
Speaker 2: where you ain't gotta walk that hard line, man, cause
Speaker 2: real nigga I walked. It was some hard lines man
Speaker 2: and Compton in the early eighties and shit, eighty five
Speaker 2: eighty six eighty cent man, Please niggas trying to sell
Speaker 2: dope nigga with six niggas on the block, and we
Speaker 2: all trying to rush the same car.
Speaker 1: And what's the same card.
Speaker 6: I've been through some hard walks, man, So you try
Speaker 6: to instill shipping the kids that hopefully they won't have
Speaker 6: as hard as a motherfucking walk as you. Now, you're
Speaker 6: gonna have some hard times now, I mean unless you
Speaker 6: was born and even and even the motherfucker's born with
Speaker 6: all the money in the silver booms in their mouth,
Speaker 6: then beat the motherfuckers jump out the high rise window
Speaker 6: and shit, they can't take what.
Speaker 3: I would do different though, eight you have to cut
Speaker 3: you off, bro, go ahead, But I would do that
Speaker 3: different man. I think sometimes, man, because my kids was
Speaker 3: raised way more spoiled than I was.
Speaker 4: It's like it was a treat for us to go
Speaker 4: to McDonald's. We went to McDonald's. Was it was of
Speaker 4: course Koya's dog.
Speaker 3: They was raised like this one come home. I don't
Speaker 3: feel like chicken? Can you make me misteak? So I'm
Speaker 3: looking at my wife at three males, three different meals,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, man, it used to be back today,
Speaker 3: moms make a pot of a tin of corn bread
Speaker 3: and a pot of beans and you might eat them
Speaker 3: motherfuckers for three days though.
Speaker 2: But see that's because that's because wifey or whatever. People
Speaker 2: they feel like, I want my kid to have to
Speaker 2: go through what I had, what I went through, and
Speaker 2: that's what turned me. And like you said back in
Speaker 2: the Nigga, you don't want what oh, then you don't
Speaker 2: eat the night motherfuckers? You gonna eat this fucking ship
Speaker 2: that I cooked, or you don't and and and and
Speaker 2: going through that. Now you got your kids and you
Speaker 2: be like and like you said, they'll come home and
Speaker 2: Chris will be like, no, I want motherfucking chicken.
Speaker 4: I want a steak. And then your daughter come home
Speaker 4: and like, I don't want chicken.
Speaker 3: Ors And I see my wife stop doing what she
Speaker 3: doing to get up and then to break her nick
Speaker 3: to go do it, And I'm like, you're not helping
Speaker 3: them when you do that, because all you doing is
Speaker 3: raising a spoiled, entitled ass person.
Speaker 4: That's all you doing. And they don't look at you.
Speaker 4: She don't look at it.
Speaker 1: It's hard.
Speaker 2: Like I have the ability and I have the means
Speaker 2: to do what they request. And like when I was
Speaker 2: growing up, nigga, if we was having motherfucking beans and
Speaker 2: rice for dinner, that's what you ate and you better
Speaker 2: not fucking complain.
Speaker 4: And I whoop your.
Speaker 2: Ass, nigga, you finish sit up in here and played
Speaker 2: about eating some fucking beads. I will beat your ass first,
Speaker 2: and then I'm gonna send you to bed Holgary and
Speaker 2: ship without. So you either shut the fuck up and
Speaker 2: eat this beads and rice or take this ass whooping
Speaker 2: and go in your room.
Speaker 4: The fuck you for me?
Speaker 5: When the way that I was, I was raising pairing,
Speaker 5: I couldn't have asked for it to be any different. Still,
Speaker 5: your mommy a lot of my dad and my dad's
Speaker 5: six six to seventy five, you know, uh the way,
Speaker 5: and everybody was terrified of my dad, you know, growing up.
Speaker 5: I mean when I tell you, like he was debo
Speaker 5: before there was debo back in the day. Deebo used
Speaker 5: to be zeus so Everybody used to always ask my dad,
Speaker 5: you know, they would ask him to, hey, do zeus,
Speaker 5: do zeus. I mean he was that guy in the neighborhood.
Speaker 5: And uh, the way that people projected by looking at
Speaker 5: my dad, they thought that, uh, I stayed and did
Speaker 5: didn't do certain ship because my dad would. I was
Speaker 5: worried what my dad would do. But what they didn't
Speaker 5: know behind closed doors is my dad's philosophy, what everything was.
Speaker 5: He took me everywhere. He put me in the middle
Speaker 5: of every single thing. He told me playing and simple.
Speaker 5: He said, if you want to drink or smoke, he said,
Speaker 5: do it at home. I don't want you to be
Speaker 5: out out and about where you might have That was
Speaker 5: my Mom's a lot to hurt any too. Yeah, crazy,
Speaker 5: and I'm telling you a thousand percent. So for me,
Speaker 5: you know, as a little boy, most of my my
Speaker 5: uncles and you know I said had uncles. I was
Speaker 5: the first born. So when I was born, my uncles
Speaker 5: were still in high school. So you know, their babysitting me.
Speaker 5: They're taking me and I'm getting dumped from this person
Speaker 5: of this person, taken from this person to this person.
Speaker 5: So for me to grow up, I grew up with
Speaker 5: teenagers as babysitters. So I seen my uncles literally and
Speaker 5: go in the room and they and they're smoking bud
Speaker 5: with Rick James posters on the wall and shit like
Speaker 5: that was really going on in my life. So for me,
Speaker 5: none of that shit was. It didn't entice me because
Speaker 5: I seen it every you know what I mean, on
Speaker 5: a daily basis. I seen it on a consistent basis.
Speaker 5: So for me, you know, everybody used to look at
Speaker 5: and think, you know, well, Chris hoops and this that
Speaker 5: and the other. You know what I'm saying, he plays
Speaker 5: ball and the reason he's man my dad. I'm gonna
Speaker 5: keep it one thousand. I see my dad do everything.
Speaker 5: My dad never kept nothing from me. He'll tell you,
Speaker 5: you know literally, I got shot twice being with him,
Speaker 5: you know, under four years old. But the reality of
Speaker 5: it was in my life to make it to be
Speaker 5: forty four years old as I stand right now. All
Speaker 5: the ship that he showed me and then introduced me
Speaker 5: too is the reason why I'm alive.
Speaker 4: Today and make the help you survive.
Speaker 7: Exactly.
Speaker 5: Listen, people talk to some discipline self. People have a
Speaker 5: whole different, a whole different vision of it and it's crazy.
Speaker 5: You know, people don't really understand.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: They look at all you you got your dad at home, this,
Speaker 5: that and the other. And my dad was he was
Speaker 5: a great guy, but he was a motherfucker. I'm gonna
Speaker 5: tell you that right now.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
Speaker 5: He was a motherfucker. But he introduced me to the
Speaker 5: real world. So when I when I got out the about,
Speaker 5: I was able to talk to people. When I was
Speaker 5: playing sports and it was time for me to interview
Speaker 5: with people, I knew how to talk, how to carry myself.
Speaker 5: So every single thing, you know, where I'm at today
Speaker 5: and what's going on today is because the way that
Speaker 5: he raised me. I try to raise my son in
Speaker 5: the same exact manner. My daughter is in the same
Speaker 5: exact manner.
Speaker 3: You have to, yeah, yeah, it be important that you
Speaker 3: and your woman be on the same page with stuff
Speaker 3: because the one thing is this right here, I'm a
Speaker 3: person that live in reality.
Speaker 4: And this is to all pops out there.
Speaker 3: If you have a daughter, that little girl that you
Speaker 3: love holding on your lap, it's a little girl. She's
Speaker 3: gonna be a young adult one day, and this little
Speaker 3: boy's out there, you better tell your daughter the real
Speaker 3: because for you to sit up there to think your daughter,
Speaker 3: ain't nobody ever be able to you know, crack the
Speaker 3: you know, crack the code so to speak. You feel
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, somebody is going to get her attention
Speaker 3: one day. You better tell her what the hell is
Speaker 3: going on and what's real?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Yeah, because I got fold of them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you better tell him what's you know? When tapes?
Speaker 5: When tapes turned from tapes to CDs, I was in
Speaker 5: seventh grade. My first CD, believe it or not, the
Speaker 5: first CD when it went from tape to CD was
Speaker 5: Countin's most Wanted Music to drive by. That was that
Speaker 5: was my first CD. And that's what my parents bought me.
Speaker 5: They bought me those that music. They bought me the chronic.
Speaker 5: My dad was blowed. One day he tried it. He
Speaker 5: asked me, said hey.
Speaker 4: He was like, you want to smoke with me? And
Speaker 4: I looked square at him. I said no. He was like, man,
Speaker 4: you're good. You know what I'm saying. This, this is this.
Speaker 5: I didn't want to smoke. And he said, so you're
Speaker 5: telling me all that music counts most wanted? Uh, Doctor
Speaker 5: dreda chronic and it's in front of you and you
Speaker 5: with these guys every single day, and you don't smoke.
Speaker 5: I just choose not to, you know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 5: I believe if you put people in a position to
Speaker 5: see things, they're gonna they're gonna make the right decisions
Speaker 5: based on being introduced to this stuff.
Speaker 2: Nothing A lot of people do. Sh yeah, they want it.
Speaker 2: I never want to experience. I never wanted to know
Speaker 2: what I see. I've seen what ship I seen. I
Speaker 2: never wanted to do no shame. I never wanted to smoke.
Speaker 2: No crack, no give me. I don't smoke day. I
Speaker 2: don't smoke smoke weed. I smoked some weed. Now you
Speaker 2: smoke weed. Hell yeah, I'm smoking. I'm smoking right now.
Speaker 6: Okay, how old was you when you started smoking weed?
Speaker 6: Probably about maybe fourteen thirteen fourteen.
Speaker 2: I was in the seventh grade when I started smoking weed.
Speaker 2: My cousin, my cousin, my cousin smoking niggas. I had
Speaker 2: an older I had a step brother. I went to
Speaker 2: Oklahoma on a because my pops had moved to Oklahoma,
Speaker 2: and I wanted to, you know, niggas, be like, I'm
Speaker 2: going out here, fuck this ship.
Speaker 4: You get me.
Speaker 2: So I went out there for the summer and my
Speaker 2: stepbrother and then was smoking. But it wasn't like my
Speaker 2: dad used to smoke. My auntie smoked. I saw that
Speaker 2: green shit with the rolling papers, and I knew what
Speaker 2: marijuana was, watching Giju shown and all that shit. So
Speaker 2: I got I got to a fucking when I got
Speaker 2: to Oklahoma, I was in the seventh grade and we
Speaker 2: was my brother and them was chilling and they were smoking,
Speaker 2: and I just I was sitting there and I just said,
Speaker 2: let me hit that ship, let me try it. And
Speaker 2: they both looked at each other and first that they
Speaker 2: was like hell no. And then I was like, man,
Speaker 2: let me hit the weed. Because I was already I
Speaker 2: was already influenced by the lifestyle, so to speak. I
Speaker 2: mean I was living. I grew up in Spooktown. I
Speaker 2: was in fluting there. It was Mexicans across the street
Speaker 2: serving water all day and then my niggas down the
Speaker 2: street they had to sack. So I was already introduced
Speaker 2: that I grew up but fucking from the time from
Speaker 2: the time my parents divorced and we was living in
Speaker 2: south Gate and my dad worked at General Motors.
Speaker 4: By the time we moved to fucking Compton.
Speaker 1: It was over with.
Speaker 2: There was no other influence. These niggas is money and
Speaker 2: these niggas so nigga bout time I was thirteen, I
Speaker 2: was already influenced. I mean there was movies like The
Speaker 2: Warriors Out and shit like that. It was niggas on
Speaker 2: the block. There was no other influences. I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: I knew about Martin and Malcolm in school and shit
Speaker 2: like that. But when you waking up every day and
Speaker 2: you hearing drive by shootings and you seeing drug dealers
Speaker 2: and shit like that, and niggas walking up and down
Speaker 2: the block with khaki suits on and their names on
Speaker 2: the back of their khaki suits and where they from
Speaker 2: and shit, and nigga, that's my influence. Nigga, I'm being
Speaker 2: one of them. What else is better?
Speaker 7: See?
Speaker 4: Yeah, real shit, I remember, I say.
Speaker 2: It better man. So I started smoking. I was already influenced.
Speaker 2: So when they had weed at thirteen and I seen it,
Speaker 2: I had actually never seen a nigga my age.
Speaker 4: Or whatever with weed. It was always the adults. A
Speaker 4: don'tsa for the.
Speaker 6: Twelve nigga twelve thirteen, I don't know where to buy
Speaker 6: the shit from.
Speaker 4: You get me, But see these niggas got weed on
Speaker 4: the table.
Speaker 2: And I'm feeling like I'm already one of them niggas
Speaker 2: and I'm coming from Cali. These niggas in Oakland. Fucking Homer, Nigga.
Speaker 2: Let me hit the motherfucking weed. You get me, I
Speaker 2: get nigga. Let me hit the nigga.
Speaker 4: Hit that ship. Nigga, big, big, big Nigga busted with
Speaker 4: the sleep for about three hours.
Speaker 5: Nigga was That's the thing, though, See I seen that
Speaker 5: as a little boy. You know what I mean when
Speaker 5: I'm telling you three and four years old. Every single
Speaker 5: week and was nothing but a party with my family
Speaker 5: with everybody. So you literally see cocaine like you literally
Speaker 5: see them.
Speaker 4: But it was something about that that made me go,
Speaker 4: I want to do.
Speaker 1: That, do that.
Speaker 5: I didn't want to do none of that because when
Speaker 5: you look at you, like I said, you look at Stell,
Speaker 5: And when I look at Stell, I look at my dad.
Speaker 4: That's exactly my dad.
Speaker 5: When I tell you, like a man that was powerful,
Speaker 5: everybody respected. But when I would see him and he'll
Speaker 5: either get get drinking or he would get fucked up,
Speaker 5: he's not the same man no more. So you start
Speaker 5: seeing people talk ship to him and say ship to
Speaker 5: him that they would not.
Speaker 4: So that's that's what made that's I knew I'm Chris Junior.
Speaker 5: So I'm like, I don't ever want to be in
Speaker 5: that situation where somebody got to drop on me because
Speaker 5: my father couldn't fuck with my dad.
Speaker 2: I'm my father was My father was in the Navy
Speaker 2: and he had a good ass job at General Motors.
Speaker 2: But so I didn't you know it was it was
Speaker 2: a different situation, like he wasn't the hood nigga whatever.
Speaker 2: But still when the motherfucker did that ship, I'd be like,
Speaker 2: I don't want to be like, I don't want to
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 4: Ship because it is just I just I didn't want
Speaker 4: to do that ship.
Speaker 2: And I smoked some weed, but just being able to witness,
Speaker 2: you get me those drugs and like you said, motherfucker's partied.
Speaker 4: You get me.
Speaker 2: They was doing motherfucking cocaine. They was hitting the needle,
Speaker 2: They was doing the dip cigarette with the sharm stick.
Speaker 4: You get me. And I see nigga, nigga, I see
Speaker 4: that sharm stick, go nigga. I be like, what the fucks?
Speaker 4: I was always in the.
Speaker 6: Man, I said, I suck. I seen my fucking dip
Speaker 6: the cigarette hit that ship.
Speaker 2: Get butt naked, nigga, go in the middle of the
Speaker 2: street and just start running in circles, nigga traffic and everything.
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there like what.
Speaker 7: They that made?
Speaker 4: That made me go, never do that ship. I don't
Speaker 4: give a never.
Speaker 7: I don't never want to be that nigga.
Speaker 4: I don't want to be that high weed is good
Speaker 4: enough for me.
Speaker 5: You talk about yea when you talk about minutes and
Speaker 5: you talk about like how parties used to be back
Speaker 5: then when I was a little boy, and minutes is
Speaker 5: exactly what I recall us being a kid.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's how the parties was. Yeah, they was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we went to the Yeah Mon's and dad hauled
Speaker 2: your ass over to the homies house and they did
Speaker 2: in the back nigger, and they put your ass in
Speaker 2: the room somewhere, and that music going all night to
Speaker 2: three o'clock in the morning, and you trying to peek
Speaker 2: out the door and see what's going on.
Speaker 4: Always got a.
Speaker 3: Little homie, they can't sneak the one homie did what
Speaker 3: he did, and see what I did.
Speaker 1: But I hol it.
Speaker 3: I picked up when I was younger, I started drinking
Speaker 3: beer when I was about fourteen.
Speaker 4: Hated the taste. We sneak, We sneak a beer, mark.
Speaker 7: My mount team march.
Speaker 2: You know we be in the room and they might stay.
Speaker 2: Let me, let me get this slide. It's a sip
Speaker 2: or two of the little slits or something. They used
Speaker 2: to give me that hardship black.
Speaker 4: I like beer. I like beer.
Speaker 3: When I was little and I drunk beer, and I
Speaker 3: just stopped drinking after my oldest son. He can't leave
Speaker 3: one day and say I want to drink beer and
Speaker 3: be drunk like my dad. And I saw that, I said,
Speaker 3: what the fuck.
Speaker 4: That nigga still be Nigga still be in there, lead.
Speaker 1: It like.
Speaker 4: I used to drink like a motherfucker.
Speaker 3: No, dog didn't always want to come home with bloody
Speaker 3: knuckles and ship dog.
Speaker 6: I would act a fool, And I said, I don't
Speaker 6: like that. The example was you sober? Where he said
Speaker 6: that to you?
Speaker 7: Man?
Speaker 3: Hell No, I was just off a case, crushing beers
Speaker 3: all day, white football, crushing beers.
Speaker 4: I'm thinking like.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking like he had caught you slip, like why
Speaker 2: you sober? He like, man, I would have drink and
Speaker 2: be fucked up like you, and you like you already
Speaker 2: fucked up when he said you already in the kitchen
Speaker 2: and right next to her.
Speaker 5: In the eighties, my dad had long before it's time, akeggerator,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. He had that ship built
Speaker 5: the people from Brown's distribute and come bring that ship
Speaker 5: to the house, bring them kegs to the house. And
Speaker 5: he had it like that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Like that's if for me, being a kid, I went
Speaker 5: out there and just pulled it. It was, it was,
Speaker 5: it was on tap for me. I just wasn't interested
Speaker 5: because I've seen all the bullshit. I've seen everything.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I could see, and I could see your ass
Speaker 6: sitting up somewhere at the corner fucked up this riot.
Speaker 6: I still gonna be high as fuck off the little
Speaker 6: head of the blood every now that nigga said you
Speaker 6: funk with shroom spice, Yeah, fu with some shrooms. I
Speaker 6: won't eat too many of us, but I fuck with
Speaker 6: it around.
Speaker 4: Man. I'm like funk around the first man.
Speaker 2: I'm one of them niggas that think everything outside the
Speaker 2: weed is fucked up.
Speaker 4: I don't give what we will well naturally need some green.
Speaker 6: Weed and shrooms is the most harmless ship that.
Speaker 2: You don't give it that they guy put some shrooms
Speaker 2: on my steak, Nigga. I don't want those shrooms to
Speaker 2: get high. Nigg and you put it, you put you
Speaker 2: another difference.
Speaker 4: I'm cool. See you.
Speaker 2: Niggas was the motherfucking peer pressure niggas is back in
Speaker 2: the hood.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, try that ship, nigga. I'm telling you this ship.
Speaker 4: Look at him. You really feel peer pressure like that?
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 4: You know what I did with the I want you too.
Speaker 4: I won't eat, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know like that like peer pressure. I never
Speaker 2: eat a peer pressure in the hood because I wanted
Speaker 2: to do it. I mean like, I never felt like
Speaker 2: nobody in flew wants me to do something I didn't
Speaker 2: want to do. I never got that, and I did
Speaker 2: it because I tell my son that to this day,
Speaker 2: watch the motherfuckers you hang with and don't let a
Speaker 2: motherfucker influence you to do a motherfucking thing. But if
Speaker 2: a nigga told me, like back then, nigga, let's run
Speaker 2: up in here and do this. If I didn't feel like, man,
Speaker 2: I gotta do it or they gonna sweat me, I
Speaker 2: was like niggad Come on, let's go.
Speaker 5: They in the late eighties, like the early nineties, the
Speaker 5: niggas was wild. When I tell them, seventh at seventh graders,
Speaker 5: them was grown men.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, mind you you know what I'm saying. I've
Speaker 5: seen enough other ship. But like you said earlier, were
Speaker 5: about the smoking. Like to actually see somebody that age,
Speaker 5: you know what i mean, maneuver in that man. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: it's crazy. I remember in seventh grade we was playing basketball.
Speaker 5: We had a basketball game, and uh, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. I was real back, I didn't care about
Speaker 5: girls and ship like that at that age.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I wasn't even on it
Speaker 4: like that. And uh, this girl came.
Speaker 5: She came to our basketball game and she comes down
Speaker 5: to the bottom of the stands and I'll never forget
Speaker 5: she had all the Charlotte Hornets. Uh started Jackie. You
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. When they when at first the
Speaker 5: Charlotte Wrton, she did some ship like this. She held
Speaker 5: her arms out like this. In about three, four or
Speaker 5: five niggas from the team just followed her out, like man,
Speaker 5: what you're doing. All went on back and ran the
Speaker 5: trail on this girl. You know what I'm saying, I
Speaker 5: don't wanted to do with that. I'm scared to death,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. That's that's the most probably
Speaker 5: uh when you talk about people, I didn't like that either.
Speaker 4: Help with my homeboys, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 4: to this day, I never liked you. I wasn't none
Speaker 4: of that.
Speaker 7: Dog.
Speaker 4: If I saw dudes doing that the girls, man, I
Speaker 4: was always like, you know, I came there. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying there straight up,
Speaker 4: I remember that to.
Speaker 3: Happened a lot no how a dog actually have no how,
Speaker 3: a whole lot dog. And I never was on that
Speaker 3: dog to where if I was gonna be with.
Speaker 1: A girl dog.
Speaker 4: I never was the promiscuous, the super promiscuous, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.
Speaker 4: With that girl, all that running trains and all that stuff. Man,
Speaker 4: I was like, hell, no, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: We didn't run trains, but we nigga, we we we
Speaker 4: we dealt with a lot of you.
Speaker 3: Know, young you know young as you being up in
Speaker 3: the Bay, the Bay is a whole different galaxy.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, I mean, you know, it really is. I
Speaker 1: had I have my Uh.
Speaker 7: I got a cousin from out the park, from from
Speaker 7: Compy and ship y'all there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, I took, I took. I said, cousin, let's
Speaker 6: go get some Let's go get some weed. He said, Okay,
Speaker 6: I said, let's we gonna go. I said, we couldn't
Speaker 6: go to the red fence and get some crip weed.
Speaker 1: To be crazy.
Speaker 4: That's just because it up in the Bay, isn't nah.
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 6: In certain areas, but not not the actual Bay, the
Speaker 6: city surrounding that water.
Speaker 2: Hell now, hell now, I ain't never be no chacraments
Speaker 2: Northern considered. Yeah, they an gang Bay. They cripping blood
Speaker 2: up in Sack, They cripping blood in South Central. They
Speaker 2: cripping blood in San Diego. Uh, you know, and a
Speaker 2: lot of spots in between, you know, the seasides, the
Speaker 2: fucking sweetnesses and all that fresh nose, the San Jose's,
Speaker 2: you know, shout out to my, my, my, my peoples
Speaker 2: up in even the north, the northern you know, even Essays.
Speaker 2: You got the Southerners, the Northerners, you know, but in
Speaker 2: the Bay area, you never symbolized with cripping blood.
Speaker 4: You feel me. You know, it's just some niggas just
Speaker 4: don't do it.
Speaker 2: Just like you go to other states and you know,
Speaker 2: niggas got they clicks in their hoods and whatever, but
Speaker 2: they just don't symbolize with blue and red cripping. Now
Speaker 2: a lot of them do nowadays. That it did spread,
Speaker 2: and you got a lot of in between towns that
Speaker 2: are now you know, we bloods, we crips, you know.
Speaker 2: But it didn't naturally start that way. I could say
Speaker 2: for myself in the early nineties when I started touring.
Speaker 2: You know, you would go to certain spots and niggas
Speaker 2: didn't symbolize with cripping and blood. But you know, it's
Speaker 2: just like I said, influence from the from social media,
Speaker 2: and from movies and music. It's then spread, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Not to discredit nobody from where they from.
Speaker 2: You know, like I said, I'll tell a nigga all
Speaker 2: the time, it's hood niggas everywhere. So it don't matter
Speaker 2: what you symbolize or what color your rag is. It's
Speaker 2: just it's just niggas that pull up from that poverty
Speaker 2: shit from the from from the gate, stuck in the
Speaker 2: neighborhood with with not too many choices or opportunities, and
Speaker 2: a lot of us result into doing you know, unnecessary
Speaker 2: or half in the climb.
Speaker 4: Out of that motherfucking bucket.
Speaker 2: Man, you feel me, A lot of us don't make it,
Speaker 2: you feel and that going for a lot of youngsters
Speaker 2: today too. You see a lot of niggas slipping and
Speaker 2: losing their lives behind a gang of just unnecessary shit
Speaker 2: that going on today. So just whatever you do, man,
Speaker 2: be careful in your choices, whatever your choices are.
Speaker 4: You feel me, whether it's whether.
Speaker 2: You claiming the red or blue or the rainbow, just
Speaker 2: watch your choices, man.
Speaker 3: You feel me, well, you can tell you had to
Speaker 3: be on some ship though, Spice some of that ship
Speaker 3: you was chicken back in the day. Like when that
Speaker 3: nigga hit the study, I gotta get it, gotta get it,
Speaker 3: get it.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: It's it was more like it was the game out.
Speaker 7: It's the game.
Speaker 1: The bay is is all about game.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. It's all about motherfucker knowing you.
Speaker 6: Know his surroundings, and you know it's it's just it
Speaker 6: was it wasn't really no crimson blasts. It was just
Speaker 6: more like motherfuckers you know, you would have twenty niggas
Speaker 6: on the street on one street with the same last
Speaker 6: name Ship and they all related, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: And you know you have you had the Mombo's twenty third,
Speaker 6: the twamps they call them murder Dubs. You have Brookfield,
Speaker 6: Natyates and Brookfield right across the street from eleven five,
Speaker 6: which is the Brandy Park, which is where you know, uh.
Speaker 4: Right like right by the stadium.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 6: You got sixty nine Village where you had to when
Speaker 6: you want to go to the Raiders game, you had
Speaker 6: to go through there.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's where you know the New Jack City movie,
Speaker 6: and that's what it looked like trying to get through there.
Speaker 1: You had to go through through that, through that kind
Speaker 1: of ship to go through get.
Speaker 6: To the Raiders game, passed the Varsitation and all of
Speaker 6: that ship to the Raiders game, the Warriors game, or
Speaker 6: the Age game. You had to go through that ship
Speaker 6: to get there. If if you parked on the on
Speaker 6: the other side of the stadium, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: And so it really, you know, it really the Bay
Speaker 6: got as far as Oakland got a long history of
Speaker 6: of of drugs, you know, even how they you know,
Speaker 6: even back from when they used the cocaine and uh
Speaker 6: uh and back then when the when I guess you know,
Speaker 6: stay when the mob in the in the in the
Speaker 6: in the the c i A. Or the FBI got
Speaker 6: together to destroy the Black Panther party by putting drugs
Speaker 6: in the community. So you you got you gotta walk
Speaker 6: through the through the through the sixty nine village. But
Speaker 6: the train tracks was ship where they supposedly left the guns,
Speaker 6: allegedly left the guns in the in the in the dope,
Speaker 6: you know, for motherfuckers to do what they do, you know, uh,
Speaker 6: just to turn everybody in the into the uh that
Speaker 6: was in that area as far as Black panthers, strong
Speaker 6: minded individual masculine brothers uh into into a drug addicts
Speaker 6: or they gonna make We're gonna make them fight over
Speaker 6: the dope and the money.
Speaker 7: It's gonna be one of the two. And then you know,
Speaker 7: and what happened to Huey Newton.
Speaker 6: Dies with something has something to do with some drugs
Speaker 6: or something, you know, some heroin or some ship.
Speaker 1: You know. I'm hearing this as a little kid.
Speaker 4: I heard Craig started up in the bank.
Speaker 6: A lot of shit was started in the Bay. The
Speaker 6: word player hated was invented in the Bay. You know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. So, I mean there's a lot of
Speaker 6: shit out there. You got pimps, pussy's players, fakes, gangsters,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, bitch ass niggas, killers. You know,
Speaker 6: nobody claiming ship. And the only way you're gonna know
Speaker 6: who who who who anybody is is by the link
Speaker 6: by the language they speak. If they say Cuddy, they
Speaker 6: from They from Vlayos. You know, we think they was
Speaker 6: from Layover. Like if if somebody said Cuddy, we'd be like,
Speaker 6: oh you' from Layo. Or if your niggas said pattern
Speaker 6: that he was from Oakland. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: Certain words and a certain way a motherfucker talks. That's
Speaker 6: how you knew what part of the Bay he was from.
Speaker 6: You didn't know what part of he was, what part
Speaker 6: of the Baby he's from, depending on what color he.
Speaker 1: Had on or nothing like that.
Speaker 6: You just knew where he was from by the way
Speaker 6: that he was talking and the slang, the slanguage he
Speaker 6: was that he used.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's completely different from the way I'm talking to
Speaker 6: y'all and then it sounds like a whole other language.
Speaker 6: I'll be like, hey, man, go get that yapis so
Speaker 6: we can mash out. Man, go get the yaffer in
Speaker 6: a yapis so we can so we can mash out.
Speaker 6: You know, they'll understand exactly what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Ship.
Speaker 7: I'm actually coming out there to shoot a video pretty.
Speaker 4: Soon to this song I did.
Speaker 7: I just did called west Side.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 7: Hey, I need you to be in there. Man.
Speaker 1: I need to get all I need to get all the.
Speaker 6: Essays, all all the niggas, all the man I need
Speaker 6: to get this ship cracking as far as you know,
Speaker 6: I need some I need some low riders and ship.
Speaker 7: Because the song is called west Side. You know what
Speaker 7: I'm saying.
Speaker 6: And you know, yeah, the nigga the ship is is.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna send you the song and then you're gonna
Speaker 6: un it. The ships dope as fuck. Its representing the
Speaker 6: whole west Side. I said, you ain't gotta be Columbian
Speaker 6: to get a necktie. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: It's the west Side. Shit is dope. You know what
Speaker 7: I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Uh, it's the right. It's the Ryan ship or it's
Speaker 4: some other ship.
Speaker 6: This is our ship. This is my ship, Okay, for sure,
Speaker 6: this for us. Man, we're doing this ship to and
Speaker 6: represent it for real. Yeah, let's get it though. I'm
Speaker 6: gonna call you back when we get off air. Man,
Speaker 6: I appreciate you coming on, man, were about to shut.
Speaker 4: It down now.
Speaker 7: Hell yeah, thanks for having me on y'all this motherfucking person.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, ship you when next time you float through here,
Speaker 2: just let me know what ship I call you later on.
Speaker 4: And she was good.
Speaker 7: Hell yeah, yall. You know, man, your niggas stay safe
Speaker 7: out there, and I'm out here in Vegas.
Speaker 6: Basically we slide through here. Niggas slide through, yes, sir, yep,
Speaker 6: hell yeah. Well that shoot, that's one right there.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 3: I wanted to just before you go real quick. You
Speaker 3: got the low rider coach from the West Coast and
Speaker 3: you originally from the West Coast right.
Speaker 4: Born in Ohio? Are you from Ohio? Ohio? Okay?
Speaker 2: That's why he's so thorough, one of your compadres one
Speaker 2: way more because he hits this. This motherfucker always Cleveland.
Speaker 2: That's Cleveland, net, Ohio, Ohio. Young guy with Drew carry
Speaker 2: a lot That's why, bro, It'll it'll make you. It'll
Speaker 2: make you if you if you in Ohio. I spent
Speaker 2: all my life trying to get out that. That's all
Speaker 2: I still talk about. You like I had to get
Speaker 2: a fuck about it because I knew I would get stuck.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 3: It's like, how is the place you can really get
Speaker 3: in a lot of trouble. Absolutely, you're getting a lot
Speaker 3: of trouble. And that's all I saw for myself. If
Speaker 3: I stayed up there, dog, I think for sure I
Speaker 3: would have wound up in the penitential.
Speaker 4: I say it every single day. Man, there just ain't
Speaker 4: nothing else to do. It's hopeless.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's just I gotta get up
Speaker 2: out of here, Like fuck it. The first greyhound. Once
Speaker 2: you refers out, you'd be like, you know, like one
Speaker 2: of the niggas you see on one of them old movies,
Speaker 2: and they'd be like, man, I'm tired of this place.
Speaker 2: I'm stuck here. I gotta get out. You got to
Speaker 2: hit that greyhound and get the fuck up out of there.
Speaker 5: The biggest misconception is people feel like Ohio is nothing
Speaker 5: but corn fields and all that shit. Like every time
Speaker 5: you know, you talk to somebody like, oh, you're from hood,
Speaker 5: like a motherfucker. Ohio is one of the most treacherous places.
Speaker 4: You can I've been there a gang of times.
Speaker 5: I don't realize I mean for the last few years.
Speaker 5: I mean it was a drug over those cup state
Speaker 5: capital of the United States.
Speaker 4: You could lose your life up there. And it's just
Speaker 4: different people.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 3: It's like you know the chick that we was looking
Speaker 3: at the big topic chick, right, that's normal female like
Speaker 3: they've been around like that forever. You see how she
Speaker 3: had her look strapped right there on the side. They
Speaker 3: walked raising blades in their mouth, dog like you can
Speaker 3: get you can catch the bad one up.
Speaker 5: There real easy, listen. I mean I lost some female friends.
Speaker 5: That was hard in the game. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: The street up there, you know some girls they they
Speaker 5: what are you?
Speaker 4: What are you? What are you? What are you? Attribute
Speaker 4: that to man? Property?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 3: Even I got my vision too. God, you know what
Speaker 3: I think it is, man, I think in Cleveland there
Speaker 3: are no options up there right now. There are, man,
Speaker 3: but they're very few. So when somebody gets something, they
Speaker 3: used to tend to hold on to it. Like if
Speaker 3: somebody get a job she eat somewhere, one of the
Speaker 3: good jobs. They tend to hold on to that motherfucker.
Speaker 3: They're not gonna miss no work. They gonna be there,
Speaker 3: right and they usually like, ohow it's cheap. You can
Speaker 3: go get you a nice crib up there dog for
Speaker 3: the low if you got something going on. But other
Speaker 3: than that, dog, it's just almost like a fish bowl,
Speaker 3: my nigga.
Speaker 4: It's like, just imagine being stuck in his room. That's
Speaker 4: how you feel, dog a little bit.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's like, you know, when I was
Speaker 5: growing up, the job to have in that area, you know,
Speaker 5: it was it was known you work at State Farm.
Speaker 5: You know my mom worked for State Farm. You know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. Dow Chemical, Kais are aluminum, your doubt, fiberglass,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Owens Corning, fiberglass.
Speaker 4: Those are the jobs.
Speaker 5: If you couldn't get a job in one of them places,
Speaker 5: it's like he said, he pretty much asked out. And
Speaker 5: if you have the job of those other places like that,
Speaker 5: that was kind of the standard. So you know what
Speaker 5: I mean, like for people to play ball and whatnot,
Speaker 5: Like if once you graduated, if you didn't go to school.
Speaker 5: If you was successful, then you was working in one
Speaker 5: of them places.
Speaker 4: That was the goal. That was the goal because my
Speaker 4: pops he used to work.
Speaker 2: For So wait before you answer that. So playing sports
Speaker 2: you didn't feel like you could. Yeah, that was my
Speaker 2: way out though, right, that was my way out.
Speaker 4: I just knew.
Speaker 3: See, when you don't know no better, Dog, I thought
Speaker 3: Cleveland was the greatest place in the world until I
Speaker 3: start seeing other places. Right, because my family, the one
Speaker 3: thing that we was good for. You know, back then,
Speaker 3: you wouldn't buy no house for the kids, no plane tickets. Right,
Speaker 3: you was getting in the car and driving. If either
Speaker 3: that or we would go somewhere. Right, So we would
Speaker 3: get in the car, and my stepdad was good for that.
Speaker 3: He would take us out to see the point. But
Speaker 3: then one time I thought he was going to see
Speaker 3: the point.
Speaker 1: I just know.
Speaker 3: We left the house hill early in the morning and
Speaker 3: I woke up, Dog, and we was like in Virginia somewhere.
Speaker 3: We was on our way down in Mississippi. We didn't
Speaker 3: leave the state. We was going down to Mississippi. So
Speaker 3: just seeing all the mother toimes, I used to always wonder, like, man,
Speaker 3: I wonder what's going on? I just knew it was
Speaker 3: something bigger for me. Dog, not seeing I was one
Speaker 3: of them niggas that just knew I'm gonna be a celebrity.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I just knew I wanted to do something
Speaker 3: different with myself. Dog, I didn't want to get stuck
Speaker 3: in what was going on?
Speaker 4: Then what was going on?
Speaker 3: Because it really started getting the real maney man, when
Speaker 3: the crack shit came. When the cracks start hitting, I
Speaker 3: saw the whole dynamic of my neighborhood change because it
Speaker 3: went from being aware. We you know, we was the hood,
Speaker 3: but we had nice yards, people kept, they grass cut,
Speaker 3: everybody got along. But then you start seeing this house
Speaker 3: that used to be Miss Grant's house turned to the
Speaker 3: spot because she old and her grandkids running that motherfucker.
Speaker 3: They don't turn that to the trap house, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. There's people coming out there. And then
Speaker 3: you see the little homie. The homieess ain't nothing before
Speaker 3: foot tall. He driving a deuce and quarter down the
Speaker 3: street and got a pocket full of money like this,
Speaker 3: And it started getting crazy because of that same little
Speaker 3: homie now pulling a pistol.
Speaker 4: He known to shoot niggas.
Speaker 3: You feel what I'm saying, it's like you see the
Speaker 3: dudes that was your classmates just turning the savages, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean?
Speaker 4: It was real different.
Speaker 5: Man, when I seen I seen one of one of
Speaker 5: the homies I grew up with. He killed three people
Speaker 5: for two hundred and fifty dollars. I remember the one homie.
Speaker 5: I ain't gonna say his name, but I remember one
Speaker 5: time he smoked one of the west sticks and he
Speaker 5: got the other homies duce some quarter and gets rolled
Speaker 5: up on the sidewalk and roll just bringing over a
Speaker 5: bunch of people. Dog Like, I saw crazy stuff. Man,
Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure I was traumatized living in Cleveland. I
Speaker 5: never saw I saw people shot in Cleveland back point blank.
Speaker 5: Like niggas walk up on somebody to pop and just
Speaker 5: keep on waring about their business. Didn't give a fucked dog.
Speaker 4: We had, man so many he's get stabbed that they,
Speaker 4: you know, just because it was a property. Dog like
Speaker 4: that's all.
Speaker 3: Learned how to fight, and I became pretty good with
Speaker 3: my hands because living in Cleveland you had to know
Speaker 3: how to fight. I remember I was coming home from
Speaker 3: school one day and this one dude chased me to
Speaker 3: my house. Big old dude man. And my mom's had
Speaker 3: that back screen door locked. And you know what, Mom's
Speaker 3: be having that phone always talking the same home girl.
Speaker 3: Mom's on the phone, like she looked back there and
Speaker 3: said she see me runt the driveway. Un nigga, who
Speaker 3: you're running from?
Speaker 4: You see that?
Speaker 3: Said you better go back off their handlet. I went
Speaker 3: out there, handlet. Dog I ain't had no problem since then.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you couldn't be no runner, There couldn't be no
Speaker 4: niggas running to the house and stuff like that came
Speaker 4: from them.
Speaker 2: We came from them, you know, hard working down South Mississippi.
Speaker 2: Ass running who you're running from, nigga, you better fight
Speaker 2: the motherfucker.
Speaker 3: My mama told me, she said, don't never be scared
Speaker 3: of no man. He a man a nigga, just like
Speaker 3: you you butter, you know what I'm saying. And then
Speaker 3: my uncles they really because you know they was penitentiary dudes,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, They really taught me how
Speaker 3: to you know, throw them things.
Speaker 6: So from then on, dog I just wasn't scared of nobody.
Speaker 6: Dog I was like, whatever we go scrap, we go scrap.
Speaker 6: That's my family. They migrated from Birmingham, Alabama was going on.
Speaker 6: So that's how we ended up in Ohio. Yeah, that's
Speaker 6: how everybody, you know how it is from the South Dog.
Speaker 6: Everybody from Ohio is either the South of New Jersey.
Speaker 6: I don't know why what it was, man, but the
Speaker 6: whole bunch of people moved New Jersey.
Speaker 4: Said Little said, we getting to buy the New Jersey
Speaker 4: going to Cleveland. I know if somebody coming to class playing, So.
Speaker 2: When did you feel like, nigga, I gotta play sports
Speaker 2: to get up out of here.
Speaker 3: Well, you know what, dude, I went to Glenfield High
Speaker 3: School at first Dog and it was a collision there.
Speaker 3: He coached their name Jim Yeah Tar Blood and Jim Hobbard,
Speaker 3: James Hubbard. He saw me when I was in eighth grade.
Speaker 3: I was up by Glenfield when the stadium was outside.
Speaker 3: I was up there, messed around playing some football. He said, son,
Speaker 3: what grades you in? How I missed you? I'm in
Speaker 3: eighth grade. You go to Thomas Jeff, He said, I come,
Speaker 3: you didn't play footballs at that time. The ninth grade
Speaker 3: was in the junior highspital. He said, why you didn't
Speaker 3: play football? And he the first one I started getting
Speaker 3: recruited messing with him, and it became real thing because
Speaker 3: I would be thinking, I ain't getting on scholarship nowhere, dog,
Speaker 3: But then I saw people start getting scholarships in front
Speaker 3: of me, and so he was always he planned that
Speaker 3: seed in my head, even though I couldn't quite get
Speaker 3: at that time. By the time it really resonated, it
Speaker 3: was kind of too late, as my grades is real
Speaker 3: messed up, right, So I wound up getting a bunch
Speaker 3: of junior colleges around the country trying to recruit me. Yep,
Speaker 3: And so I wound up coming out here to California.
Speaker 3: Was either there, I think I said this last episode.
Speaker 3: It was either there a Coffeeville College in Kansas, and
Speaker 3: I said, I'm going to California.
Speaker 4: It just fucked your life up there?
Speaker 2: Should your ass should have been in Coffeeville, right, what's
Speaker 2: some overalls old?
Speaker 4: And you know what, man?
Speaker 3: I say this man, California, Man, is the place where
Speaker 3: I really became came a man. Though I can't work
Speaker 3: you in some shit, yeah you know I can't, your dog,
Speaker 3: And I learned how to. I learned survival skills in Cleveland, right,
Speaker 3: But I really learned survival skills all because I didn't
Speaker 3: have no parents. There was just gonna send me money,
Speaker 3: like you know how your son got youself. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: didn't have nobody. I call hey, send me cash app
Speaker 3: me five hundred dollars. Wasn't no cash app. If you
Speaker 3: got some money, it was coming either about Western Union
Speaker 3: or the mail. And I just started telling moms a
Speaker 3: pop sending me in the mail because y'all paying ten
Speaker 3: dollars to send me twenty dollars.
Speaker 2: I'd rather had that other team give you that motherfucking
Speaker 2: post office post office money order in the mail.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the come in there, man. And that's how
Speaker 3: it was because man, I remember out here a dog.
Speaker 3: It was rough at first. Man, I was eating damn
Speaker 3: top rummin every night, Damn thear dog.
Speaker 5: Yeah, when you were in the spot about that at all,
Speaker 5: It's one thousand percent accurate though, because like when you said,
Speaker 5: Ohio and Cleveland made you a thousand percent, that's what
Speaker 5: made me the person that I am. But when I
Speaker 5: got out of there, I learned some different shit that
Speaker 5: I didn't learn in theighborhood. So growing up in the neighborhood,
Speaker 5: just like you said, when hommy come up, roll up,
Speaker 5: on you with a with a wad of money. Nobody
Speaker 5: didn't give no fuck about no credit when you asked
Speaker 5: me about you know what I mean, like all about credit.
Speaker 5: This is man, you don't need credit me. Yeah, you
Speaker 5: didn't learn nothing. You know, I got this money, whatever
Speaker 5: the fuck I want. Cash is king, no bro, that
Speaker 5: ain't that, ain't it at all.
Speaker 3: I also learned that cash was real evil to They
Speaker 3: had the ability to be evil because when I tell you, man,
Speaker 3: in my neighborhood, it was so many murders. And I'm
Speaker 3: talking about dudes that was my classmates just started murdering
Speaker 3: each other behind that cocaine dog. I'm talking about niggas
Speaker 3: because they thought of niggas cheated them, or they thought
Speaker 3: somebody got shorted and they just got bad. Or the
Speaker 3: homie fronted somebody and they didn't come back and they
Speaker 3: just said an example, and just you know, it would
Speaker 3: be crazy.
Speaker 1: Dog.
Speaker 3: You'd be walking down the street, dog in here, see
Speaker 3: police all because Cleveland got a bunch of.
Speaker 4: A band.
Speaker 3: It used to have a bunch of empty ass locks
Speaker 3: where the grass just don't grow up. Yeah, and beer
Speaker 3: bottles all up in their dog. You know you by
Speaker 3: their dog. You see the police decause one of the
Speaker 3: homelies deads you know what I mean, just dead up
Speaker 3: in there. You see somebody dead in their car. Dog,
Speaker 3: ain't nobody took nothing. They just gone Yeah, it was crazy, dog.
Speaker 3: And they used to be get real is I saw.
Speaker 3: I think that's why I have so much respect for women, dog,
Speaker 3: because I saw a lot of girls get raped and
Speaker 3: wouldn't and they'd be at school the next day and
Speaker 3: nobody would say nothing. But this one girl got raped.
Speaker 3: We was on the way home and these cats, I
Speaker 3: ain't gonna say their names, but they raped this girl right.
Speaker 3: And I remember the next day her pops came up
Speaker 3: to the school. I was at the bust that waiting.
Speaker 3: As soon as them niggas came, he started busting at him.
Speaker 3: You start popping at him, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: behind his daughter.
Speaker 1: Dog.
Speaker 3: So I saw a lot of real many shit dog
Speaker 3: like this real berserk shit man. They just really exchanged
Speaker 3: your mind set up out a lot of stuff. And
Speaker 3: one thing Cleveland will teach you is how how to
Speaker 3: have respect for the next man. Because I saw so
Speaker 3: many different things. I saw little niggas get up and
Speaker 3: big niggas ask them what nots, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And so I always learned, no matter how a nigga look,
Speaker 3: to respect. You know what I'm saying, give everybody that
Speaker 3: respect dog, because you don't know what a man cap
Speaker 3: beloved exactly.
Speaker 5: Color barrier shit too that they get shit gets throws
Speaker 5: out the window too, like the black white thing because
Speaker 5: you know, you might go to school and and you know,
Speaker 5: be the misconception like you can't get beat by no
Speaker 5: white boy, no fight.
Speaker 4: No this is man. Listen, Oh dude, they scrapping out.
Speaker 5: Some of them baddest, baddest motherfuckers I ever done seen
Speaker 5: and knew was white boys up there. And when I
Speaker 5: tell you put it down, I mean there was prejudice
Speaker 5: of motherfucker. You're like, what's up, nigga, I don't fuck
Speaker 5: with you.
Speaker 3: Don't fuck with me, and be ready to scrap for
Speaker 3: he scrap man, I don't fuck like three or four
Speaker 3: white boys at the same time they jump out them
Speaker 3: trucks on your ass. You gotta be ready to throw
Speaker 3: them things may be known sometimes.
Speaker 5: They had guns and be serious about that shit. And
Speaker 5: but the part about that that I'm I'm anna I
Speaker 5: can respect that more because I know what they expect
Speaker 5: at it. That's what I'm saying here. I'm saying like
Speaker 5: I don't have to wonder. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: If you like me or some phony shit like, keep it,
Speaker 5: keep it a buck with me. So I know, I
Speaker 5: know when I see you, it's finna go down, go down.
Speaker 5: Ain't no ain't no surprise.
Speaker 4: Yeah, real quick, I was gonna ask you about them cars.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: How did the dude from Ohio man become one of
Speaker 3: the biggest fielders of specialty vehicles in the country.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 5: So I'm back when I was growing up, I played ball,
Speaker 5: like you know, like he was talking about. My idol
Speaker 5: was Michael Jordan. Like everybody else, he had an eighty
Speaker 5: seven Corvette Black.
Speaker 4: With the T tops.
Speaker 5: I didn't think nothing else could touch that motherfucker.
Speaker 4: So you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Everybody was like, when you sign your first contract, what's
Speaker 5: the first car you're gonna get. I'm like, shit, I
Speaker 5: wanted eighty seven Corvette with the T tops until I.
Speaker 4: Seen boys in the hood.
Speaker 5: When I seen boys in the hood, man, and I
Speaker 5: seen I seen that gold the cars called touch of Gold.
Speaker 5: When I seen that car the first man, it was
Speaker 5: a rap. It was a from there to see a
Speaker 5: car look like that. I never would think that a
Speaker 5: car could be that old. I remember I was telling
Speaker 5: my dad, you know what I'm saying, Like, I said, Dad,
Speaker 5: now I know a car I want. You know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like what you want?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 5: And I showed him the car. He started laughing. He said, man,
Speaker 5: he said, you realize that's an old empolo. He said,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Like that car at that
Speaker 5: time was twenty some years old.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
Speaker 5: And you know there wasn't no computer. There wasn't no
Speaker 5: computer and shit like that. So I start They used
Speaker 5: to throw them advertised. Remember they still a little advertiser
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, and you go to see the marketplace shit.
Speaker 5: So man, I'll get on my bike and I would
Speaker 5: ride around. I would go to go to people's house,
Speaker 5: would be waded across town. I'd ride my bike up there.
Speaker 5: Didn't have a pot to piss and no money, but
Speaker 5: I just wanted to be around that car. So that's
Speaker 5: how I start self taught. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: I start teaching myself about the car. Because one thing
Speaker 5: that still will tell you again too, is that jobs.
Speaker 5: You're not just getting a certain kind of jobs. So
Speaker 5: so for a black kid to go into a place
Speaker 5: and say, hey, I want to work on cars, it's
Speaker 5: not happening, you know what I'm saying, Like, they're not
Speaker 5: bringing you in to work on cars. They might bring
Speaker 5: you in to clean up around them other place, but
Speaker 5: you're not coming in here to learn no trade like that.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, to.
Speaker 5: Build no cars. So I self taught myself. And you know,
Speaker 5: there used to be junk yards and shit, we get
Speaker 5: up my homeboy, Sean, we get up in the morning
Speaker 5: and once we could drive, and shit, we would driving
Speaker 5: go out to these places and I'll go in junk
Speaker 5: yards and we sometimes you know, it'd be different from
Speaker 5: the seasons. The grass would grow up high depending on
Speaker 5: what season was that. So we'd be jumping from roof
Speaker 5: to roof of these cars. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 5: there's a deuce right here, there's this right here. And
Speaker 5: I played ball at a high level, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. I was invited anybody knows, you know, basketball,
Speaker 5: basketball is my shit. I was invited to five star
Speaker 5: basketball camp as a ninth grader, so that's an invitational camp.
Speaker 5: When I went there, I'm a freshman. The number one
Speaker 5: player at the camp was Stephan Marburry. He was a senior,
Speaker 5: so there was that type of camp. The number one
Speaker 5: player in my class was lamar Odaman. There was only
Speaker 5: four of us that was ninth graders. You know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying there At the time, when I was young,
Speaker 5: you know, I never never believed that some of the
Speaker 5: stuff that my dad would say sometimes. But it's funny,
Speaker 5: as you get older, every single thing that he said
Speaker 5: came to fruition.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 5: He used to tell me, like, you're ahead of everybody now,
Speaker 5: but you know what I'm saying, people gonna catch up
Speaker 5: with you. And I never believed that. But that's when
Speaker 5: I start falling in love with those cars. That's why
Speaker 5: I bring my dad up in this situation. I fell
Speaker 5: in love with those cars, and I kept wanting to
Speaker 5: be around the cars, looking for the cars. My dad
Speaker 5: used to tell me them cars ain't never gonna make
Speaker 5: you no money. You know what I'm saying that you
Speaker 5: think you going to the next level to play them?
Speaker 5: Cars ain't making you no money, man. It Ain't it
Speaker 5: crazy how the one person the people in your life
Speaker 5: that are the most discouraged and are using your pearents
Speaker 5: because they trying to let the fear, the fears that.
Speaker 4: They have kind of guide you.
Speaker 3: Because my mom begged me not to come to California,
Speaker 3: and I tell it, don't you realize, Mama, fight and
Speaker 3: come out here. You wouldn't have your grand kids now,
Speaker 3: not the ones you got.
Speaker 4: Yeah a lot.
Speaker 5: Man, Listen, it's just like you said. I mean, you know,
Speaker 5: it wasn't that I I was always doing the most
Speaker 5: terrible shit. But you know, we've all done some wild
Speaker 5: shitting our day. So when I sit back and look
Speaker 5: at it.
Speaker 6: At that same time, a lot of the homies I
Speaker 6: was running around with, one of my other homies died
Speaker 6: over twenty dollars Bill, you know.
Speaker 4: What I'm saying. Busy stuff man.
Speaker 5: So we had used had this place called the Hoop,
Speaker 5: and you get into the Hoop. It was twenty dollars
Speaker 5: to get in there. You could play all day long.
Speaker 5: So you know, we all go up there and everybody
Speaker 5: goes up there, and the one of the homies was like,
Speaker 5: uh hey, let me get a twenty dollars. Let me
Speaker 5: get twenty dollars.
Speaker 4: So I can get in.
Speaker 5: They gave him a little twenty dollars. Some weeks go by,
Speaker 5: they asked him for the twenty dollars because like, hey,
Speaker 5: what's up with that twenty dollars?
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. He was like, man, fuck you,
Speaker 4: I don't pay back debts. I kill him.
Speaker 5: So when he said that, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: the boys didn't have no choice, but they dove on him.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying to a brother, a dude,
Speaker 5: and a cousin. So they dove on him. So after this,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, every time my homie will
Speaker 5: see him. You know what I'm saying. He had a
Speaker 5: chop on his lap. He had an ak. Be outside
Speaker 5: of the dude's mama's house with the ak on his lap.
Speaker 5: You see him at the gas station, pull up with him.
Speaker 5: He got it on his lap. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Just every single place he's seen him. You know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, he over there showing it. So one night
Speaker 5: he had just came came to my first little shop.
Speaker 5: He had dropped me all some money for the car.
Speaker 5: At about two o'clock in the morning, I get a
Speaker 5: call from a girl frantic. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I can't understand what she's talking about. What happened was
Speaker 5: he was at a club, a little strip club. These
Speaker 5: dudes wasn't looking for him, but they went in there.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, happened to see him in there.
Speaker 4: You know what it is? What it is.
Speaker 5: If I don't make this decision now, he's gonna end
Speaker 5: up getting me sod like waiting for him, went outside.
Speaker 5: When he came outside, they hit him all over a
Speaker 5: twenty dollars bill. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it happened.
Speaker 5: Man, far as to say, like a twenty dollars bill.
Speaker 5: It wasn't just a twenty dollars bill, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. It was the principal. It's the principal behind it.
Speaker 5: I saw dunk get went up again for a dollar.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 5: Listen, But that's the shit that when you start looking
Speaker 5: at analyzing what you're doing. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And I love the homies till to this day the
Speaker 5: majority of them's gone. But the reality of it is,
Speaker 5: had I continue moving the same manner that I was moving,
Speaker 5: There's no question about it that I would have been
Speaker 5: dead or incarcerated.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me ask you no question. Let me ask
Speaker 3: you this, because you want a real they could be
Speaker 3: a real high end business. What's the most expensive builds?
Speaker 3: You don't done?
Speaker 5: We got one right now that's gonna be about two
Speaker 5: seventy five probably right now, it's say seventy Chevelle three
Speaker 5: ninety six LT four motor ten speed transmission. So basically
Speaker 5: what he wants the inside to look like though you know,
Speaker 5: you always talking about like the rest though mad you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. You was talking about that shit
Speaker 5: earlier before we came on the air. But he wants
Speaker 5: the whole inside to be basically like a tesla. So
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. When he sits in this bitch,
Speaker 5: he said he want to sit like in a cockpit basically.
Speaker 5: So the amount of money that he's willing to pay
Speaker 5: for it, we're willing to move that manner, you know.
Speaker 5: And that's another that's another comeback to another point. Like
Speaker 5: my first shop that I opened, I started in Ohio.
Speaker 5: That's one of the worst mistakes that you can ever
Speaker 5: do is is start a shop like that, especially in
Speaker 5: the neighborhood because everybody wants the homie hookup. So when
Speaker 5: you're trying to give everybody the homie hookup, you might
Speaker 5: get a motherfucker there come in there and be like, hey,
Speaker 5: I paid you eight hundred dollars last week. But you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, I got to re up and
Speaker 5: this happened. Blah dah, da da dah. Let me get
Speaker 5: two hundred and fifty dollars. Let me get this, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, and then use the business like
Speaker 5: it's a fucking bank. That was probably my biggest mistake ever,
Speaker 5: but it was the biggest learning experience for me.
Speaker 4: You learned change at that time. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I start making some money, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: And I decided moving to like a real busy neighborhood,
Speaker 5: a real busy like basically like Crenshaw, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like a high volume street like that.
Speaker 4: One night somebody broke in there. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I'm young, don't know no different, Like I said, you
Speaker 5: had the hood mentality of running business and don't really
Speaker 5: understand I'm like twenty two years old. Somebody broken there
Speaker 5: and stole pretty much everything up out of there. Well
Speaker 5: you get all these my mom, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: Like she working in her state farm, you know, so
Speaker 5: she here and all this shit. Oh yeah, he probably
Speaker 5: he had somebody break in so he can get insurance. Man,
Speaker 5: we didn't have insurance. Man, I didn't know no different.
Speaker 5: I didn't know nothing about that shit at that point
Speaker 5: in time. But that's the kind of shit in the
Speaker 5: mind set of people. Nobody was proud that she was
Speaker 5: doing the shit you was doing.
Speaker 2: Or not being not only until they could see the
Speaker 2: successes or reaped from it and not to be you
Speaker 2: know whatever.
Speaker 4: But that's just some people.
Speaker 2: They just it's hard for people to believe in your
Speaker 2: dream when it's not what they envisioned. You get me,
Speaker 2: you know, and your parents always gonna envision something different
Speaker 2: than something affiliated with the street culture, you get me,
Speaker 2: whether it was rap music or cars or whatever. I
Speaker 2: don't think no parents wanted to hear their child go
Speaker 2: or I'm I'm gonna start building cars. You know, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna start building low riders, just like when I came
Speaker 2: to the table and say I'm finna start making rap
Speaker 2: songs and making records. Motherfucker's like what, nigga, You finna
Speaker 2: make no money from no rap, So your mind, man, please.
Speaker 3: You know ma, Mama was so mad at me when
Speaker 3: I told her I'm going out here to play football
Speaker 3: for Long Beach City.
Speaker 4: She said, you can go to CarH Community College. You
Speaker 4: ain't gotta waste while glass around the corner.
Speaker 3: She was so mad because she said, I got a
Speaker 3: job for you at Kaiser. What I tell you, we
Speaker 3: got a job for you at Kaiser. It's a good job.
Speaker 4: You can go up there.
Speaker 6: You could be retired by the time you fifty five.
Speaker 6: I'm thinking that my mom like you, I want you
Speaker 6: to work at Kaiser.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 4: I didn't want to work at Kaiser Aluminum Man. Ain't
Speaker 4: nothing wrong with Kaiser, love them though.
Speaker 2: You gotta got you something, nigga. You could have got
Speaker 2: you some benefits. You know what I'm saying. You probably
Speaker 2: wouldn't probably wouldn't. You probably wouldn't have met your love
Speaker 2: of your life, your wife right now. But you would
Speaker 2: have had you some old country bumpkin and treated, cooking
Speaker 2: you some grits and eggs and sending you on your
Speaker 2: way to Kuys.
Speaker 5: The fucking a little way. You saying that, saying that
Speaker 5: though it's exactly my mom what.
Speaker 4: She she said.
Speaker 5: My mama told me, she said, you might not you
Speaker 5: might not be rich, but give you enough. You pay
Speaker 5: your bills and get your pizza up. Man, come on, man,
Speaker 5: you're gonna have you.
Speaker 4: You have you a chef. You're gonna have you a
Speaker 4: goddamn Chevy truck. Out there.
Speaker 6: Digga going to the same damn bar every Friday night
Speaker 6: talking about ship.
Speaker 2: Get on in the back and there on the July
Speaker 2: put this, put this above the ground pool up, Nigga,
Speaker 2: y'all be back there chilling in the.
Speaker 6: Above the grounding the same with the same neighbor every
Speaker 6: weekend barbecued.
Speaker 4: You see how he's got a new pit right.
Speaker 2: There, getting getting off on Friday evening. They could come
Speaker 2: there with your little bit of motherfucking kaiser with your
Speaker 2: name Pat right therewist.
Speaker 4: Don't get a twisted yeah that there was nothing wrong
Speaker 4: with that, But for me, it was for me.
Speaker 3: Dog got see it like you something feeling your side,
Speaker 3: Like nigga when you went and told your mama you
Speaker 3: was gonna be a rapper, You feel.
Speaker 2: That in your soul, like that was what you're doing.
Speaker 2: You gotta chase the passion man. And like I said,
Speaker 2: everybody's is. Everybody's dream of your success isn't gonna be
Speaker 2: what your dream is. Let's just face it. You know
Speaker 2: your mama don't want you to be no football player
Speaker 2: in Loan Beat. She just thinking, She's not thinking like
Speaker 2: he could really go out there. And she just saw
Speaker 2: the coat, thinking like many out there day out And
Speaker 2: I've seen that movie come and they out there with
Speaker 2: that you know what I'm saying. They out there with
Speaker 2: that rap ship on top of you. Give me on
Speaker 2: top of that, nigga, Please boy, get your boy. Get
Speaker 2: on up there. They waiting for you right there. He
Speaker 2: waited for you to come on for that interview.
Speaker 6: To get me, I had Compton, I had Compton Community
Speaker 6: College try to get me back.
Speaker 4: Then Bakersfield almost went the biggest field too. I'm like
Speaker 4: to get me up there.
Speaker 5: There was another school up there, man, what was San Luis?
Speaker 4: Uh huh Sam Louis Obispo. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Man, they try to get me up there too. And
Speaker 5: I ended up in Fort Dodge. I was sir Fort Dodge.
Speaker 5: Did I tell you That's the first time that reality
Speaker 5: ever sunk into me. Because I played ball at such
Speaker 5: a high level and had such expectations for my life
Speaker 5: and for me when I got up there, man, you know,
Speaker 5: I'm used to like my last high school game we
Speaker 5: played in Columbus at the coliseum and at the time,
Speaker 5: and there was two guys McDonald's, all Americans on that
Speaker 5: one team that they had and they were one was
Speaker 5: on my AAU team. So at that time, the expansion
Speaker 5: NBA st so the Toronto Raptors Vancouver Grizzlies, those two
Speaker 5: teams will be at a lot of our shit. But
Speaker 5: my last game was in the coliseum and the game
Speaker 5: start at six o'clock and you see motherfuckers outside lined
Speaker 5: up around the building waiting to get into your game.
Speaker 5: As a high school kid in a coliseum. When I
Speaker 5: get up to Fort Dodge, Iowa and I walk in
Speaker 5: there the first time, and I walked in that gym
Speaker 5: and there was about thirteen motherfuckers in there. That's the
Speaker 5: first time it sunk in like you fucked up, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, like real shit, Like I.
Speaker 4: Didn't like the act the sat I knew that I.
Speaker 5: It was the first time reality hit where being Chris
Speaker 5: Ash don't mean shit no more. You know what I'm
Speaker 5: saying like it couldn't get you to where.
Speaker 4: You want to go.
Speaker 5: No, Man, The first night that I was out there,
Speaker 5: there was a little these people from Trinidad had a
Speaker 5: they played soccer and they had this this little party.
Speaker 5: And I walked walked into this party and like I said,
Speaker 5: you know, I've seen a lot of ship, but I
Speaker 5: walk in there and I see motherfuckers right here on
Speaker 5: this in this duplex, and they fucking on the stairwell,
Speaker 5: and I see these guys trying to hand me some alcohol.
Speaker 5: I don't know what the fuck it is for me
Speaker 5: to drink when I come in here, Like, I'm me
Speaker 5: and I'm from where I'm from. So at the end
Speaker 5: of the day, man, ain't nobody give me ship and
Speaker 5: tell me what to do, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So I turn up every but like, oh hey, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. Everything's Everything's cool.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: I walked up out of there crying.
Speaker 7: Bro.
Speaker 5: When I tell you, like the being out there in
Speaker 5: a world, it's the first time I ever literally just
Speaker 5: I just broke down and cried.
Speaker 7: Bro.
Speaker 5: It was cold and ship. Because I went the second semester,
Speaker 5: I sat out the first semester. I got there in
Speaker 5: January and that that type of cold on that flat land.
Speaker 5: When that ship hit me in the face, What the
Speaker 5: fuck ship?
Speaker 4: I broke out? Man, I'm crying walking.
Speaker 6: Back to how long did it take you to leave?
Speaker 6: I was out of there in May, sir, saying fact
Speaker 6: that I'm gone. I was out of there in May,
Speaker 6: and you know what I mean? Like, still, how long
Speaker 6: it took you to leave? LBCC, Man, Shit, I didn't leave.
Speaker 4: I stayed. You stayed.
Speaker 3: I stayed the whole time, graduated and got a scholarship
Speaker 3: at New Mexico State University.
Speaker 5: Better off had I came out here, Yeah, it was
Speaker 5: just when time. I would have been better off.
Speaker 3: But what I said it was, Man, if you go
Speaker 3: be stuck somewhere, it needs to be southern California. Man, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that was bad for me culturally. If I'm gonna be
Speaker 3: stuck somewhere, it's gonna be out here in Kelly.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 5: I will tell you some wild ship though, now I
Speaker 5: think about it. So when they had a radio station
Speaker 5: in there and eight had just dropped last man standing.
Speaker 6: These people didn't know nothing about this, but they you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. They gave me some albums and
Speaker 6: it happened to be that last man standing. I still
Speaker 6: got that album to this day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's radio station that's cracking up in the Iowa.
Speaker 4: They're handing me that ship when Fort Dodge, I.
Speaker 6: Was, yeah, I'll let you know, it was everywhere when
Speaker 6: I take nigga everywhere niggas.
Speaker 5: Fort Dodge they handed me, They handed me that, They
Speaker 5: handed me a master p and they handed me.
Speaker 6: A mace at the same time. Hey, I got the
Speaker 6: got these four you know what I'm saying. They was like, here,
Speaker 6: get this ship up out of here. Here you go, Chris,
Speaker 6: that's crazy, man, And you got that cracking there. What's
Speaker 6: your Instagram page? Man, so you can ask you some
Speaker 6: more followers. Man, you already got a whole bunch of
Speaker 6: motherfuckers on State.
Speaker 2: Customs, sun State Customs man, sunk Hiller at my people,
Speaker 2: y'all looking for official build.
Speaker 4: Then my nigg got the motherfucker's on deck.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: I stopped playing cards for days.
Speaker 2: Yeah, years, i'mna have to come dipping up on here.
Speaker 2: Still on you and one man, Let you see what
Speaker 2: it's cracking like. I'm gonna give me one. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: give me a dunk.
Speaker 4: And we got something coming, then, my boy Chris got
Speaker 4: a nice one coming. Yeah, what you getting? I would
Speaker 4: just pull up on you one day and tell your
Speaker 4: asked Ye, it is something coming. Though, then I'm gonna
Speaker 4: have to get me one. It's Maria. Ain't nothing, Yeah
Speaker 4: she Maria. Don't run there. Hey, Brian, let me know
Speaker 4: where he cut that part out. But seriously, then I'm
Speaker 4: gonna get me one. Man.
Speaker 3: I kind of want to. I want to dunk. I
Speaker 3: don't want nothing traditional, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 3: just want some nice man shiny with nice ass rims
Speaker 3: on it, man, and some beating it. We'll get you.
Speaker 4: Ask you this one. We'll get you an LTD nigga?
Speaker 4: Why dunk over a low rider?
Speaker 1: You know what?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 7: I just like to you know what.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't mind having a low rider either though. I
Speaker 4: just like the dunks. If I do get a low.
Speaker 2: Rider, I don't want all the hop Just don't cut
Speaker 2: his ship. Yeah, he just won't cut his ship. Yeah,
Speaker 2: riding on fourteen fifteen. That shit look ridiculous.
Speaker 4: He will.
Speaker 6: I'm not, I'm not involved in that. Give me some fresh.
Speaker 6: Are you want to cut? You don't here to switch
Speaker 6: you to hell?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 4: He need his front and back.
Speaker 5: You know, he gets for switches front back. So I
Speaker 5: decided which, well, front back, We'll do three wheel right,
Speaker 5: three wheels?
Speaker 4: Uh huh, that's what doing? You know I might go
Speaker 4: three wheel? Yeah, you know what I mean this.
Speaker 2: They don't know what the fuck. He will be there,
Speaker 2: But Maria gonna be dipping hell out of my ship.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't let her drive. You wouldn't let her drive
Speaker 2: the four No, man, shein's supposed to behind.
Speaker 4: That's me, man.
Speaker 5: We had a beautiful last the last two weekends out here, Man,
Speaker 5: been a lot of the OG's had a two shows.
Speaker 2: Individuals. Yeah, I've been seeing a lot of Yeah. Shout out.
Speaker 2: Shout out to all the car clubs out here, man, Bryan,
Speaker 2: did you shoot the individuals?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Brian just shot the weekend.
Speaker 5: Boys got down man, Big Dre shout out Big Dre,
Speaker 5: Fat Rat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out my nigga, Dre Man, my nigga from
Speaker 2: GUARDENA all good low ride of culture is real heavy man.
Speaker 2: Like I said, I've been around it for a long time.
Speaker 2: I got into it about when I was nineteen eighteen.
Speaker 2: It's just a fascination. It's all over the world now, man,
Speaker 2: you know, Japan, fucking Hawaii, I mean everywhere, man is.
Speaker 2: The low rider is one of them things that has
Speaker 2: stood the test of time. You get me, especially coming
Speaker 2: from you know, the seventies, the early days from back then.
Speaker 2: You know, just like with hip hop getting started, a
Speaker 2: lot of people probably didn't think the culture was gonna last.
Speaker 2: They've tried to shut it down, they've tried to block it,
Speaker 2: but it has it has really it has established some
Speaker 2: if you want to say, some common ground between men,
Speaker 2: you know, niggas who have beefs learn how to overcome
Speaker 2: in certain situations when low rider shows and cars are
Speaker 2: in fat off. You learned you learned to uh turn
Speaker 2: your switch off, so to speak against the enemy man
Speaker 2: or whatever. Because the car culture brings everybody together and
Speaker 2: it's not about a lot of hood shit and beef
Speaker 2: and uh, it's just you know, so you know, you
Speaker 2: got to respect that man, you know, So shout out
Speaker 2: to all the lolo hoppers and riders.
Speaker 5: Like the show this weekend, like for instance, the individuals
Speaker 5: to be able to sit back and know like it.
Speaker 5: You know, that's one thing about the car culture. It
Speaker 5: does allow you also to learn a lot of real history.
Speaker 5: Definitely from l A, you know, definitely, and from Compton,
Speaker 5: from la from from the Inglewood. It it lets you
Speaker 5: understand a whole different world, you know, being out there
Speaker 5: with the God, the old majestics, being out there a gangster,
Speaker 5: being out there with O G twin. You know, you
Speaker 5: got got you got people from Santana Block, you got
Speaker 5: guys out there from the sixties, you got guys over
Speaker 5: there from other parts.
Speaker 4: Exactly everybody's or everybody come together.
Speaker 5: So to me, like it's like you said, having those
Speaker 5: those cars, that is that one common thing that when
Speaker 5: I tell you, I walk around and see a lot
Speaker 5: of guys from a lot of different hoods.
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying, and I've been, I've been out
Speaker 2: there and to be able to like be involved with
Speaker 2: that and not have to feel like, you know, in
Speaker 2: fear or whatever with it. Like, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 2: Niggas still gonna be niggas, but that seems to be
Speaker 2: the culture that brings a lot of niggas together. Then
Speaker 2: don't matter what color your flag is, you know, it's
Speaker 2: just the respect and and and the quality is what
Speaker 2: niggas enjoy. So yeah, definitely, y'all check out my men, Chris,
Speaker 2: Sun State customs.
Speaker 4: Still where we at? We out of here? Yeah, we
Speaker 4: out of your I want to ask them about this car.
Speaker 4: Was trying to look for it? Look at it is
Speaker 4: that I want?
Speaker 7: I wanted.
Speaker 4: I wanted chavel convertible.
Speaker 5: It's crazy, man, because a lot of guys be shining
Speaker 5: away from them, Schavelle convertibles.
Speaker 4: I love them.
Speaker 5: A lot of guys shy away. What you want a seventy? Yeah,
Speaker 5: like a seventy that's the car. That's what building right now?
Speaker 4: Now? Why are people shiying away from what I like?
Speaker 1: Those?
Speaker 4: That's why I want something a little different than what
Speaker 4: everybody else when it.
Speaker 5: Comes to the in palor world, I can speak on
Speaker 5: that all day long. But while guys shot away from
Speaker 5: that seventy drop, I really don't know. So that means
Speaker 5: it to be easy to find one there?
Speaker 4: Not brilliant say that you probably have to cut it,
Speaker 4: cut the top off out there.
Speaker 5: Okay, But that's another thing about the culture too. Guys
Speaker 5: get a misconception. You get some guys to talk about
Speaker 5: I'd rather buy one that's already bought this, that and
Speaker 5: the other. You better off to buy you a card
Speaker 5: that's a piece of shit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like to Yeah, I like to build better off.
Speaker 5: Because you know, I have guys bring me cars that
Speaker 5: they done pay fifty sixty thousand for and you got
Speaker 5: to take it all the way apart like you did.
Speaker 5: A car that'll cost twenty five hundred, and that's real shit.
Speaker 5: One of my boys he played plays in the NFL,
Speaker 5: and he brought a car in there and he paid
Speaker 5: great money. Leave it at that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: He paid great money for that car he bought. Came
Speaker 5: out of I believe in Indiana.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 5: We had to take every panel off, rats nest, inside
Speaker 5: the firewall, all new quarters, all new floors, all new braces,
Speaker 5: all new trunk, every aspect of that car had to
Speaker 5: be rebuilt. And when I tell you the amount of
Speaker 5: money he spent, and he spent at before the cars
Speaker 5: really the sixty fours really took off. So you know
Speaker 5: you better off to go on and get you a
Speaker 5: car for about twenty five hundred dollars. Just bild, motherfucker,
Speaker 5: that's how much my first car.
Speaker 1: Car.
Speaker 4: Just gonna take it down the middle.
Speaker 2: Anyways, my first sixty three hard top supersports sticking the floor,
Speaker 2: I paid fifteen hundred four.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it ran, but it was toe up.
Speaker 2: It was primer and the paint it was black, like
Speaker 2: somebody tried to paint it black and then decided to
Speaker 2: primer it up and they left it. The seats was
Speaker 2: tow up. I don't even think it had a back seat.
Speaker 2: It had two front seats and no back seat. But Nigga,
Speaker 2: that motherfucker rand that's the way I stuck that key in.
Speaker 2: That motherfucker, he said, and draw that motherfucker straight to
Speaker 2: the homie and Watts. I gave it straight to the
Speaker 2: homie from Grape and Nigga saw it about two months later, Nigga,
Speaker 2: brand new paint, brand new seats, gold dating's on that motherfucker.
Speaker 2: It was a It was basic. It didn't really cost
Speaker 2: me that much. It was base back then. My nigga
Speaker 2: was like Nigga. I think he was like, Nigga, throw
Speaker 2: me five six grand and I and Nigga brought it,
Speaker 2: brought it Nigga, and I thought that motherfucker was immaculate.
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, my.
Speaker 2: Nigga, please that Nigga brought it back to It was
Speaker 2: plain blue, white top, brand new interior. Nigga had like
Speaker 2: two gates in that motherfucker front backside to side on
Speaker 2: some all gold things. Nigga, you didn't have that on
Speaker 2: a on a magazine cover. Yeah, that was my trade,
Speaker 2: nigga with the one that was sitting on three wheels.
Speaker 4: Nigga. I loved that car. Nigga loved it.
Speaker 2: I told that car about five times, man, because that's
Speaker 2: why I say I was a hopper.
Speaker 4: I wasn't a rider. It was a rag uh rag
Speaker 4: foe was that in the I we that was a car.
Speaker 6: We got that car actually from like a Hollywood car shop,
Speaker 6: that rag six four that we took all music to
Speaker 6: drive by.
Speaker 5: That was my first CD, like when tapes turned from CDs,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, from tape to CD.
Speaker 2: That was the first music to drive by on that
Speaker 2: and there it was. That was the thing drive by
Speaker 2: and on a nigga. So I just thought it was
Speaker 2: clever music to drive by because we fold drive by.
Speaker 3: On the last track with the shout out I want
Speaker 3: a sevel dog. I want that motherfucker deep purple, but
Speaker 3: I want a creamy white interior like you know that
Speaker 3: you look you see that my foot like white, like
Speaker 3: you don't see number white, almost like you sitting in
Speaker 3: the motherfucking cloud, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's how we do. We're getting up out of here. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: we go out of here. Yeah we are man. We
Speaker 4: continue the discussion off here, Jim, I'm telling you how.
Speaker 1: My notes will grow like Pinocchio.
Speaker 4: We're gonna tell you the truth and nothing but the truth.
Speaker 4: This is not your