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Speaker 1: Jill.

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Speaker 2: You know what they do? Another episode of Against the

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Speaker 2: Chronicles and I'm with the homie.

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Speaker 3: Big steal in the house and Man, I see you

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Speaker 3: and broke one of your homeboys down here today. Man,

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Speaker 3: A low riding a legend man when it comes to

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Speaker 3: putting them things together.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Man, you know, the culture is big. You feel me.

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Speaker 2: Anybody who's been either the love or infatuated or just

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Speaker 2: you know, a real a real historian, an enthusiast, you

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. And this culture is man, It's

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Speaker 2: been spread so wide now, man, so you know, welcome

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Speaker 2: the homie man to the show.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Chris sunstay customs in Orlando, Florida.

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Speaker 3: Jill, that's what we do. Yeah, for sure. And we

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Speaker 3: got another legend in the house man via telephone.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: Now, I've been trying to get the homie on here

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Speaker 3: man for some years. But it's you know, it's appropriate

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Speaker 3: now and it happened at the right time. The homies

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Speaker 3: Spice won the house. Spice, what's happening with you, cracking mate?

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Speaker 6: Man, it's out here getting the end as usually, you know,

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Speaker 6: should make it happen. Sure out there he out there Vacus.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in Vegas, man, it's about a thousand degrees right

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Speaker 2: now in Vegas and ship I just.

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Speaker 7: See the nigga walk past here on fire niggas.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, you know, Spice, you know one of the

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Speaker 3: things I was talking to you about when I was

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Speaker 3: on the way over here, but was the lack of

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Speaker 3: it being the number one rap album in music. Right now,

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Speaker 3: But before we get there, what you think about this

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Speaker 3: whole Kiki Palmer situation?

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Speaker 7: You know I ain't heard about it. What's that Kiky Palmer?

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Speaker 4: All right? Check this out.

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Speaker 2: The homie you know, Ussher got the residency in Vegas.

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Speaker 2: You know, he do his thing, and of course you know,

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Speaker 2: gang of females is gonna push to see Usher. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: let's put this scenario. You got you a celebrity female, right,

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Speaker 2: you dating y'all together?

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Speaker 4: Married whatever? Whatever? She flowed to the Usher concert.

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Speaker 2: She already dressed what you know, provocative, Let's put it

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Speaker 2: like that, right, But you know, Grace, you don't sweat

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Speaker 2: your lady. You let her dress how she dressed. You know,

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Speaker 2: you you confident in secureing that to where Hey, she

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Speaker 2: want to go out with the with the sea, through

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Speaker 2: with the throng on whatever. You confident you know she

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Speaker 2: ain't fin the whatever. She coming home right, okay? Whatever?

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Speaker 2: She she go to see Usher speakety where you at

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Speaker 2: the crib with the kiddy?

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Speaker 4: She go roll with the homegirls? Right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Usher, you know knowing your girl, you know she's popular,

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Speaker 2: she's out there. You know she's got some name and status.

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Speaker 2: He want to recon right, he want to recognize you know,

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Speaker 2: her status. You know, hey, my girl in the bill

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Speaker 2: old then blah blah blah, come on upstage, give her

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Speaker 2: some love, blah blah blah. Next thing, you know, he

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Speaker 2: serenades her, starts singing to her whatever, and it gets

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Speaker 2: a little, you know, too close for comfort.

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Speaker 3: Put it like that on you gotta give spice to

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Speaker 3: full detail on No spice, Not only is he serenading her,

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Speaker 3: but she has these sea through pans on where you

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Speaker 3: can see the throng and the booty cheeks is hanging

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Speaker 3: out and everything.

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Speaker 7: Okay, then she.

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Speaker 4: Pressed up on him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, booty chicks hanging out And I think that what

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Speaker 3: did he tut the booty?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 2: So so so you still are you you you got

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Speaker 2: a problem with that?

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Speaker 4: Do you think they acting it out?

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Speaker 2: Just like just like we were saying, you know, in

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Speaker 2: certain situations how we had on the show when we

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Speaker 2: were talking about the situation up, you gotta you gotta

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Speaker 2: play that ship out. You know, she's on stage, just

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Speaker 2: like just like what happened with Homegirl with the kiss

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Speaker 2: and everybody screaming whatever whatever. She's supposed to be a

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Speaker 2: certain type of female, So why don't why not play

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Speaker 2: the role out right?

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Speaker 4: Right? You give me right right?

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Speaker 2: So do you do you feel you know it was

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Speaker 2: out of bounds for what happened, you know, because you

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Speaker 2: know they say this is how my nigga usher gets

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Speaker 2: a lot of that poontang. So how do you how

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Speaker 2: do you feel about that? If if you were in

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Speaker 2: about that?

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Speaker 4: What you address that publicly?

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Speaker 1: Nah?

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't addressing publicly, you know me. You know, you

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Speaker 6: know I'm a bad nigga man. I never let him

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Speaker 6: see me sweat, you know, I never would have would

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Speaker 6: would go out here and address publicly about my feelings

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Speaker 6: and get into my feelings, you know, uh, and exploit

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Speaker 6: my feelings out there and published everybody. You know that

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Speaker 6: would be something for me to talk to her about

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Speaker 6: at home along between me and her.

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Speaker 7: If I had a problem with it, you know what

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Speaker 7: I'm saying. But you know, me being you.

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Speaker 6: Know, me being a bad nigga, I might not even

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Speaker 6: had a problem with it. I'd have been like, damn nigga.

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Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. Okay, gone, Pip and do

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Speaker 7: what you do. You know, but uh, you know as

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Speaker 7: far as as far as me tripping out and flipping out, now, man,

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Speaker 7: you know you know you can't.

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Speaker 6: You can't let them uh uh discourage the player in you, man,

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Speaker 6: no matter even if you got a woman.

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Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, If that's your woman or whatever.

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Speaker 6: You got enough confidence in her, and uh it is

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Speaker 6: what it is, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: Because you know what if she do movies or whatever.

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Speaker 6: And she got niggas kissing all on her tongue all

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Speaker 6: down the neck, dema throat licking all over on her

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Speaker 6: neck and you know, all kinds of stuff.

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Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: That that movie that she did with with uh uh Tyrese,

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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. Like, you know, she would

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Speaker 6: have did some movies, some movies like that or whatever,

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Speaker 6: you know, did some stuff like that. Then he can't

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Speaker 6: get mad because she just she's just acting. She's just

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Speaker 6: doing her thing.

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Speaker 7: So you got to get back and play a role.

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Speaker 2: So still you saying that my man didn't have the confidence.

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Speaker 2: That's why he spoke publicly about how he felt about

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Speaker 2: her doing that.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, the.

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Speaker 3: Thing is, I can see him being a little upset

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Speaker 3: because he was a square. He's a civilian and as

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Speaker 3: we all and as we all know and entertainment, we

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Speaker 3: don't all have problems at the house because some girls

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Speaker 3: may get a little too excited at the show and

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Speaker 3: you go home and you know, the first thing your

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Speaker 3: woman thinking, damn, is it like that? So if I

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Speaker 3: wasn't there, what was you had done? You feel what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying. So, yeah, to some degree, you just got

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Speaker 3: to take that he acknowledged her dog. Now, I can

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Speaker 3: see why he was upset, but I think that should

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Speaker 3: have been something left to the crib. He should have

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Speaker 3: been upset, but he should have had that kind ofversation

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Speaker 3: at home. And he sounds real insecure because I know

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Speaker 3: my wife and if she sees she really ain't into

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Speaker 3: no usher, but she sees Denzel, and Denzel want to

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Speaker 3: give her a hug. I ain't gonna deprive her from

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Speaker 3: giving the hug Denzel, because I'm damn She's gonna get

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Speaker 3: my hug from Holly Berry if she sees me because

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Speaker 3: I signed Holly, could I get a hug?

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: It was my wife right here, but she ain't tripping,

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Speaker 2: hug baby, get you a picture in there, And I guess,

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Speaker 2: I guess you have to be like I said once,

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Speaker 2: then you gotta be mo fucking confident in in yourself

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Speaker 2: like you know. Uh, he should have paid it out

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Speaker 2: and been like, yeah, you've seen my bitch up there, nigga,

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Speaker 2: she was looking bad. Huh.

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Speaker 4: Nigga.

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Speaker 2: Usher had to break down the saying to my bitch

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Speaker 2: because she looks so other good. You saw you saw

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Speaker 2: that ass, nigga, You saw that. They gotta play ship out. Man.

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Speaker 6: I'm in the I'm in the I'm in the grocery store.

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Speaker 6: I piece some niggas looking at my girl ass. I

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Speaker 6: walk over there with the niggas and look at my

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Speaker 6: girl ass with them.

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Speaker 1: They got.

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Speaker 2: You know, you gotta be confident like to it, you know,

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Speaker 2: because you know women nowadays, they like to express you

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, how many times, how many times

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Speaker 2: you don't went to the club. How many times you

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Speaker 2: don't went to the club. And you see, you know,

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Speaker 2: women with kids at home and the man and whatever. Nigga,

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Speaker 2: they half naked most of the time. And it's not

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Speaker 2: even an age limit.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: Shit, you catch a motherfucker from twenty five to forty

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Speaker 2: five half naked and confident in that dress. So you

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Speaker 2: gotta be as the mand You gotta be confident to know, well, shit,

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Speaker 2: she ain't finna do shit. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: She look good, She want to show off some shit.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You gotta take the shit

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Speaker 2: the same way I'm saying that. Then again, did he

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Speaker 2: know the assignment? Did he know what he was signing

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Speaker 2: up for?

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Like when he got into

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Speaker 6: the relationship, did he understand who he was fucking with

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Speaker 6: or what he was dealing what he was he was.

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Speaker 7: Gonna have to deal with, Because I don't understand.

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Speaker 6: That, you know what I'm saying. They think they understand it,

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Speaker 6: but they don't, you know what I'm saying. Until until

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Speaker 6: something really happened like that.

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Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm gonna tell you this. Whatever

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Speaker 3: he did, he probably donna push the right into that

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Speaker 3: nigga's arms. U shoul probably yeah, mab, you know, he

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Speaker 3: tripping and she couna be gone. She could be mad.

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Speaker 3: All he did was open what do my boy will

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Speaker 3: Smith White called an entanglement.

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Speaker 7: Entanglement.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't even put it like that, Like I said,

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Speaker 2: she want to I don't know, Like I said, she

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Speaker 2: want to play.

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Speaker 4: The part out?

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Speaker 2: You give me what what female in her position? I

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Speaker 2: don't give a fuck. You know, I'm an actress. People

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Speaker 2: know me worldwide. You know I'm not gonna get up

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Speaker 2: here and be like, hold up, you know, I got

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Speaker 2: my man at home. Whatever whatever, I'm gonna play that

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Speaker 2: put out. Oh nigga, you singing to me, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: get the hugging on the nigga rocking and do it

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Speaker 2: all kinds of ship because you gotta play you you

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Speaker 2: in the public eye.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 2: You have to be able to be accepted by a

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Speaker 2: lot of motherfucking people and ship and like you say,

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Speaker 2: my nigga, he probably you know, ordinary nigga. You know,

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying, I'm just like you. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if he knew, you knew she was she was, you

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Speaker 2: knew her status was climbing and she was gonna get

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Speaker 2: to somewhere. She's an actress, she's in. You know, the

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Speaker 2: climb is. But you know, I guess a lot of

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Speaker 4: And a lot of themers get down like that. You

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of motherfucking porn into street. Motherfuckers who

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Speaker 4: Know what she said?

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Speaker 3: Because you secure though, because he ain't struggling it right

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Speaker 3: You know, he insecure about something. Because I know I

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Speaker 7: She know how I get domn She ain't gonna.

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Speaker 7: Not know one night.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, You.

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Speaker 2: Got to be confident in yourself that had when your

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Speaker 6: And if he really felt that way, he should have

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Speaker 6: But that ain't gonna start her. So if he even

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Speaker 2: But my thing is it still ain't gonna stop her

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Speaker 4: Okay. The niggas serenade me, I'm a fucking actress.

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Speaker 4: But you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: My status is where I'm I'm I'm I'm being accepted

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Speaker 6: I can't look at him, and not that I'm trying

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Speaker 2: It's a gang other motherfucking man. You knowna bitches. They

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Speaker 4: So I'm gonna get up here and I'm gonna sing

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Speaker 6: Motherfucker right quick. That's gonna get me fay. Other pussy's backstage.

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Speaker 7: Hey, nigga, you know what, you know what we do,

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Speaker 4: Though.

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Speaker 6: We might let serenade the brown I might I might

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Speaker 6: serenade the police. See, I might be singing some of

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Speaker 7: Gigging a gang stock, gang stock, you know what.

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Speaker 3: You know, speaking of the rap shit, Chico, I'm gonna

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 4: So I'm just gonna give y'all both big ups right now.

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Speaker 1: Dog.

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Speaker 4: You know, I wish we had.

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Speaker 3: Ah, but you know, I'm gonna going to give you

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: And I think everybody, because you know, we just had

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Speaker 3: right here. You know what I'm saying. He gave it up.

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Speaker 3: He was like, Man, this is my guy right here.

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Speaker 3: And I meet so many young artists that when they

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Speaker 4: His presents, you know what I mean. I don't like

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Speaker 4: Take your flowers, nigga, understand though I don't like that.

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Speaker 4: Shiit though. Man, I just hate it. Man, not like that.

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Speaker 2: But I just I'm too I guess I consider myself

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Speaker 4: Tell you, ain't you and that nigga on the phone

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Speaker 1: Dog.

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Speaker 3: At a time, dog, both of y'all had the streets

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Speaker 3: on smash Man. You couldn't ride down the street without

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Speaker 4: You just couldn't. It was inescapable, bro. Y'all was y'all

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Speaker 2: But see, to me, I was just talking for regular niggas.

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Speaker 2: And last night the homie got jacked, and two nights

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Speaker 2: Now other people looked at it as crazy as fuck,

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Speaker 2: But when you grew up like that, it wasn't no

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Speaker 2: I was able to because of the few years that

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Speaker 2: I know that rhyme with that and that rhyme with that. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm a nigga, so I know how to keep the

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Speaker 2: Let me talk about the hood, the nigga last night,

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Speaker 2: wooky womp, and and then and the more, I guess

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Speaker 2: you say success came with it.

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Speaker 6: I still never looked at like, yeah, nigga, m C

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Speaker 2: Some niggas do, though, Some niggas some niggas. Some niggas

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Speaker 2: like I'm too good. I look at it like I

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Speaker 2: don't give a fuck. Whether you saw a hundred million

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Speaker 4: Say the program of what hip hop was.

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Speaker 3: Then the niggas don't never don't never get acknowledged. Then

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Speaker 2: If you're riding around and Rose Royce's and you got

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Speaker 4: Just be a humble nigga.

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Speaker 3: You know what, though, I'm gonna tell you this, if

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Speaker 3: the coolest niggas you ever want to meet. He gonna

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Speaker 3: come in here and shake everybody's hand, He gonna sit

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Speaker 4: He's just a cool dude.

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Speaker 3: Same thing with Scarface, same thing with all of them

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Speaker 4: You know.

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00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:02,440
Speaker 7: You know why?

439
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 1: You know why?

440
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:08,159
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm humble. It's hell, you know, And and I

441
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,160
Speaker 6: think a reason, that a thing, that something that taught

442
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 6: me to be humble. You know, we we both noticed. Hey,

443
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,680
Speaker 6: my niggas is crazy as hell.

444
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

445
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,920
Speaker 6: So so if I even look mad or frown or something,

446
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,440
Speaker 6: this niggas gonna start tearing it up and I can't

447
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:24,959
Speaker 6: stop him.

448
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,639
Speaker 7: So I'm I'm gonna walk around and be the nicest

449
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:28,959
Speaker 7: person that you can.

450
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:30,920
Speaker 6: You can you can see I'm a smile, I'm gonna

451
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 6: shake hands, I'm gonna be really nice, and I'm gonna

452
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 6: I'm ana chill.

453
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 7: I'm gonna be cool because I know these niggas crazy.

454
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 7: I can't even look mad. They gonna tear this motherfucker down,

455
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying.

456
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 6: And I learned that, you know, and and and and

457
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 6: I guess it over the years is just in my

458
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 6: personality now.

459
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,399
Speaker 7: And I figured out how to, you know, how to

460
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,880
Speaker 7: how to move around motherfuckers. You know what I'm saying.

461
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:55,640
Speaker 2: I just figured, man, you just got to be I mean,

462
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,159
Speaker 2: I know sometimes it don't you know. You got to

463
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 2: watch your surroundings and mother fuckers and you know it's

464
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,199
Speaker 2: jealous motherfuckers because of what you do or what you accomplish.

465
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 2: That's always gonna be there. But you know, I just

466
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 2: like to consider myself a regular nigga, so I don't

467
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 2: offend a regular nigga, you feel me, That's all. That's

468
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 2: that's where I come from. I don't want I don't

469
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 2: want to offend a regular nigga. A nigga still out there,

470
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 2: you know, because it has been fortunate that I've been

471
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 2: able to do certain shit that a regular nigga's not

472
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 2: gonna be able to do, and not to say that

473
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,680
Speaker 2: that you that you can't never you know what I'm saying.

474
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,639
Speaker 2: Regular niggas can take trips and go on vacations and

475
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 2: work hard and take their females somewhere and have whatever

476
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 2: you want to have to accomplish shit. But you know,

477
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 2: there's things that I've done that a motherfucker will be

478
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 2: able to say, Oh, you ain't gonna never be able

479
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,439
Speaker 2: to do that, or you ain't gon never be able.

480
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 1: To do that.

481
00:22:55,160 --> 00:23:00,439
Speaker 2: But still I don't like to floss that or flaunt

482
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 2: that or uh shiit my accomplishments or just as yours

483
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 2: as if you're working in nine to five every day

484
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 2: you get a bonus check or motherfucker, you know, buying

485
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 2: my house or nigga, fuck it, I just made it

486
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 2: home today. You feel mean, that's my least why I

487
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 2: want to fit in with the regular nigga. So I

488
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 2: guess that's why I try to stay. You know, you know,

489
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 2: I don't security guarding up and you don't move with

490
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 2: a pack of packing, you know, nigga, you catch me, nigga,

491
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 2: I'm with one nigga.

492
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You know what I want

493
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 3: to ask. I want to ask you this spice because

494
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 3: you can't. Eight has been very open to butt it.

495
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 3: When you first got your deal, man, right, you were

496
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 3: signed the Jive right or you were you on an

497
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 3: independent label at first?

498
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 6: I was on an independent label Tryad Records at first,

499
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 6: I think, and that was like the first first.

500
00:23:55,080 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 7: Uh maybe half a year or not of nineteen ninety m.

501
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 3: So y'all kind of came in the same way, both

502
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 3: through independent labels that got picked up by a major situation, right, right,

503
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 3: So was your paperwork right when you first started?

504
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 1: Well?

505
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 6: Now, well I first signed with the independent, I was straight,

506
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 6: but when I got the job it was it was

507
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 6: it was.

508
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 7: The whole contract was one side.

509
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 4: So after all them records, it is your first joint

510
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 4: when Platinum didn't it?

511
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 7: Yeah?

512
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, we did like nine hundred thousand, and I'm pretty

513
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 6: sure after that it was plattum by the end.

514
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.

515
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 3: Okay, So, despite the fact that y'all both came in

516
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 3: selling the Gang of Records, didn't nobody ever come to

517
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 3: you at some point and say, hey, man, we need

518
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 3: to keep him happy. Let's let's renegotiate his contract and

519
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,479
Speaker 3: rewrite his contract to make it a little bit more

520
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 3: lucrative on his end.

521
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 7: That never happened, hell naw man.

522
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 6: So basically sad contract a speaking he So basically you

523
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 6: got I fucked the whole time you were signing the Shock,

524
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 6: the whole.

525
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 7: Time I was on the label, the whole time. I

526
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 7: even I even brought him eat forty.

527
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 6: And then I asked him to see if they were renegotiating.

528
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 6: They still wouldn't renegotiate. So you brought them E forty.

529
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 6: I brought forty up. I told my manager, chance to

530
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 6: go get forty a deal up there, jive. After I

531
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 6: took forty on tour with me, with me and uh

532
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 6: Scarface and and Ali and R Kelly and and and

533
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 6: and high five you know the high five huh from

534
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 6: Houston for something.

535
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 4: It was, uh was the R and B group that

536
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 4: was signed to Luke Records, Yeah, they was.

537
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 6: It was It was htown, Yeah, And we we went

538
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 6: to Granda State University. I had Rogers tour bus. Forty

539
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 6: had his own tour bus.

540
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 7: We don't.

541
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 6: We went on tour. I gave forty like ten minutes

542
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 6: of my show, every show I did. And we got

543
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 6: back home and I, you know what I and I

544
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 6: told him to go get told, told told chance to

545
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 6: go get him a deal.

546
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 4: Up there at Jive.

547
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 7: You no, forty might have been working on some other

548
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 7: stuff with Gives that.

549
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 6: I didn't know about, but I know that I know

550
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 6: what I did, you know what I'm saying. So and

551
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 6: once I did that, they still didn't want to renegoti yet.

552
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 4: So who got who got you your deal?

553
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: That Jive? Uh? One?

554
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 6: A seven proof was just out there, you know rocket,

555
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 6: you know, out there in and out there you know

556
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 6: on the on the remember the box, Yeah, it was

557
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 6: the number one. Did he owned the box? And then

558
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 6: he came here come gives.

559
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: Uh.

560
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 6: They called Piso, you know piz oh eight. Remember remember

561
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 6: he used to DJ for forty and short uh huh.

562
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 6: So so Barry Wise called Piso and and I was

563
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 6: sitting over there at the time, and I heard he

564
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 6: put he put Barry Wise on the loud speaker, and

565
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 6: Barry Wise was like, where's where's spikes one at? And

566
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,719
Speaker 6: and Piso looked at me and his his finger over

567
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 6: his listen said, man, don't say shit. You know what

568
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 6: I'm saying, just wait, and I got my lawyers and

569
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 6: ship together or whatever. And you know, they even they

570
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 6: even said they was like they it'll advised me not

571
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 6: to sign the contract. I made certain provisions on there

572
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 6: that that that that would make it semi cool. But

573
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 6: the contract was not cool at all. You know, the

574
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 6: record labels back then would take a motherfucking poverty strict

575
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 6: in the ass.

576
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 7: Nigga broke from doing.

577
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 6: You know, trying to get it and give him thirty

578
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 6: forty thousand the back thing. You think thirty forty thousands

579
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 6: some real money, you know what I'm saying. They you know,

580
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 6: and you gonna sign any motherfucking thing. I used to

581
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 6: sell a dope on the street nobody ever heard of

582
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 6: in the city, nobody ever heard of. I didn't think

583
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 6: I was gonna be shit. It'll be nothing, man. And

584
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 6: now to this day, I could to they today, I

585
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 6: could go to Japan and pack the house, you know

586
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. But I didn't think I was gonna

587
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 6: be shipped, and and and they knew I thought I wouldn't.

588
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 6: I didn't think I was gonna be shipping, and they

589
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 6: knew I was poverty stricking.

590
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 7: I didn't have.

591
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 6: You know, it was living in a condominium, you know,

592
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 6: a condo, and me and my sister and my mom

593
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 6: and in my and my step pops paying the bills there.

594
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 6: Uh you know, Robin Peter to pay Paul of the

595
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 6: motherfucker election intricity.

596
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: To get cut off.

597
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 6: I'm walking to school with holes in my in my

598
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 6: mother fucking tennis shoes. When it rain, I get home

599
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 6: with wet sox.

600
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. I was a broke ass nigga.

601
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.

602
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 6: The hip hop game saves me, so you know when

603
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 6: and I was trying to get up out of that ship.

604
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 6: And of course i'mone sign a fucking contract with a

605
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 6: major deal. I don't give a fuck what the contract say.

606
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, You're gonna sign that ship, nigga, ain't.

607
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 7: I'm I'm walking around with holes in my shoes, not

608
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 7: my socks, my shoes, nigga, My socks is wet. You

609
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. So hell yeah, I'm signing this ship.

610
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 7: You know, we out here, jacket niggas man. You know

611
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 7: what I'm saying, We all here stealing cars. Uh and

612
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 7: and Jackiet.

613
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 6: Motherfuckers. I'm running from the police, nigga, twelve o'clock midnight,

614
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 6: hopping fences, the helicopters and all of that ship. Nigga,

615
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 6: we out there getting damn out there in the town.

616
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, and and and the in

617
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 6: the game, just just you.

618
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 7: Know what I'm saying.

619
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 6: So fuck yeah, I was gonna sign a contract, whatever

620
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 6: the fucking contracts say, give me the.

621
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 7: Fuck up out of this ship.

622
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 6: It's just gonna give me enough money to get me

623
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 6: the fuck out of here where I can go, buy

624
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 6: me an apartment or or a house somewhere else and

625
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 6: get out of this ship. And then then give me

626
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 6: the goddamn contract.

627
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 7: Let me sign.

628
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: Did you have did you have a middle man? Was

629
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 2: there a middle man involved in your deal?

630
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 6: Well, well, the only middle man was Jazz, which was

631
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 6: the was the Well no, he wasn't even involved in

632
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 6: a deal.

633
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 7: I had a managery I had at the time.

634
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 6: Was his name was John crashma and and and I

635
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 6: had to I fired him because he sucked up the

636
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 6: role in minister society. He he didn't he didn't stay

637
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 6: in contract, tacked with the Hughes brothers and ship for

638
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 6: me to get the old dog roll.

639
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.

640
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 3: So hold on, Spice wasn't supposed to play old dog. Hey,

641
00:29:53,680 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 3: Spice was gonna play old dog. He there, Spice, no

642
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 3: hold on me to get him back, hold on me

643
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 3: to get him back on, Get Spice one back on.

644
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 4: We got a.

645
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 6: Can you think to connect them?

646
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: Talk?

647
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 4: What the hell he's probably trying to call back?

648
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: Here we go to see can you think to connect them?

649
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 4: Yeah?

650
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 3: He a called back, but yeah, but you know what, though, man,

651
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 3: The crazy part about that is, though, man, the story

652
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 3: is all too common, like you says, young black kids

653
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,719
Speaker 3: from poverty right that don't have see no way out,

654
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 3: and they get this opportunity of a lifetime and it

655
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 3: is life change. And you know, despite the fuckery they

656
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 3: go on, people's lives usually change for the better. But

657
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 3: I think that's just real sad, man, That's just real sad.

658
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 3: Because he made jive millions of dollars.

659
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 2: I'm Spice was large. He was my you know, my

660
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 2: partner in crime. Me and Spice hooked up kind of

661
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 2: early in our careers. But like you said, it's the

662
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 2: same fucking story, you know, and I'd be like, shit,

663
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 2: my record's doing like seven eight hundred thousand. They cracking

664
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 2: the gold mark whatever spice shit was cracking platinum, and

665
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, how come? I'm like, how we still cause

666
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 2: you looking at platinum niggas like Cube and you know,

667
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: Public Enemy and LLL and them niggas was on another level.

668
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 2: So for me to see a nigga who had like

669
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: two and three platinum records and nigga me and him

670
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 2: still sitting up like what's up my nigga, I'm like,

671
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 2: how come you ain't up there like you you're supposed

672
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 2: to be up there, like I get where I'm at, Nigga,

673
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 2: I'm riding.

674
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 4: The gold surfboard. You know, surfboard, nigga.

675
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 6: You you up there, you skating on the platinums and

676
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 6: you're still sitting right here with me.

677
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 4: What's going on?

678
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 2: But like you said, it's always that the same story

679
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:10,959
Speaker 2: of I'm not getting no motherfucking royalties. My budgets are

680
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 2: probably getting cut in half because who's ever in the

681
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 2: middle receiving that check? You get me, they already from

682
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 2: soon as it hit they death. I'm tearing this motherfucking half.

683
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 2: You get me, so and then you, like you said,

684
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: you never have a motherfucker come around and go, Okay,

685
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 2: I've eaten enough.

686
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 4: Let me let a nigga gonna get his thing. No

687
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 4: niggas back up here.

688
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: Niggas be like. Niggas be like fuck that. Instead of

689
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: giving a nigga his just due or his his his

690
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 2: percentage that he should get or the money he should get,

691
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: niggas be feeling like, nigga, you owe me, so fuck that,

692
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 2: so I don't give fuck. I got you your record deal,

693
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 2: you're able to do videos, and you're riding around in

694
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 2: a nice car and you gotta not house. Yeah, I

695
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 2: did you a favor, so I'm gonna continue to fuck

696
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: you until I can't fuck you no more. And you

697
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 2: be grateful for that instead of like going, but wait

698
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 2: a minute, I'm doing I'm writing all my songs.

699
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 4: I'm doing everything I gotta do.

700
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 2: But you feel like I owe you half of what

701
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: I you know what I'm saying, You taking half of

702
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 2: the shit from the top you get me then got

703
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,239
Speaker 2: the nerve to double back and be like, okay, now

704
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 2: where's my percent You done.

705
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 4: Already took half of the money up front.

706
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 2: Then a nigga come back around the corner and be like, now,

707
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 2: let me give my fifteen percent as your manager or

708
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 2: some shit you get me.

709
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, crazy, that's crazy. So Spice then a manager.

710
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm gonna take half the money from your budget, Okay,

711
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 2: and then I'm gonna turn around and double back, and

712
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 2: now I want fifteen percent for being your manager.

713
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 4: Nigga cold back there.

714
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 2: Then I'm telling you rich niggas all hit it out

715
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 2: them niggas was cold as far. All the so called

716
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 2: you know, middle men, managers or whatever. And I ain't

717
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,919
Speaker 2: gonna say all of them, but god damn it, back

718
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 2: when I was coming up in the rap game, demn

719
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 2: niggas was fucking niggas. I don't give a fuck if

720
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 2: you didn't know, if you didn't know shit about publishing

721
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: and contracts and royalties and all that shit, and you

722
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 2: was like a nigga like me and Spice, Nigga, what

723
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 2: record contract?

724
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 4: What forty grand on the table?

725
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,919
Speaker 2: Not knowing that goddamn nigga, you're supposed to be getting

726
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 2: money for your writers. You supposed to be getting money

727
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 2: for publishing and your beat making. You supposed to be

728
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 2: getting this and that, Nigga, you ain't knowing shit. Nigga,

729
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 2: hand you are checking the beginning and you take that

730
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 2: motherfucking go Nigga. I'm cracking not knowing that a nigga

731
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 2: finna be collecting your ship for the rest of his

732
00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 2: fucking life.

733
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 4: You get life for the rest of his life.

734
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 2: When you sitting up and you ain't recording no more

735
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 2: and them little publishing checks is coming in for three

736
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 2: and four grand, you won't never see the motherfuckers another

737
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 2: nigga electing the hard work that you put in because

738
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,479
Speaker 2: they feel like Nigga, I walked you in the fucking door.

739
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, the movie rose, so before you got cut off,

740
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 3: you said you were supposed to be Old Dog.

741
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was. I had I had the script. I

742
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 7: had a script. I was reading the script.

743
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 6: I just didn't know that my manager didn't contact the

744
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 6: contacted Hughes brother than say ship.

745
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.

746
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 3: Can you imagine how minutes would have been But this

747
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 3: dude playing Old Dog and this dude, you know Nigga

748
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 3: would have killt that ship.

749
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 4: But minus came out pretty good if you ask, Yeah.

750
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 7: Nigga, Nigga would have killed that ship. But at the

751
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 7: same time, you know, like like aight is right?

752
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 6: Uh?

753
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 7: Lawrence Tate did.

754
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 6: His motherfucker da You know, I'm he killed that ship.

755
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 4: Who knows?

756
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 2: I mean, pack was supposed to be in it. You know,

757
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,959
Speaker 2: everything happens for a reason and shit, but like I said,

758
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 2: you got it. You got a test to people who

759
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,720
Speaker 2: like you say, a motherfucker was in charge of your ship,

760
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 2: and and the nigga's taking fifteen motherfuckers and the nigga's

761
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 2: not even looking out on ship. And that just goes

762
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: to show you.

763
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 4: Maybe that was listen because maybe he was gonna take

764
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 4: that money too. Ship ain't gonna take everything you can get.

765
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 6: I mean, I mean, well, shit, you know a lot

766
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 6: of things you know, could have could have could have

767
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 6: came about through that movie and everything, even you know, uh,

768
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 6: the the when when Pat got into it with the

769
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 6: Hughes brothers at my video.

770
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,280
Speaker 4: I never like eight.

771
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 6: When Adam was running up to hell Man, I ran

772
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 6: down the hill. I didn't know who he was, and

773
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 6: I was, you know, I was about to try to

774
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 6: close lining back down the hill.

775
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 7: Until I figured out who he was. You know what

776
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 7: I'm saying.

777
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 6: I got close up on him and I was like,

778
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 6: oh shit, you know what I'm saying. And then I

779
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,959
Speaker 6: said I see a dude just go up the hill,

780
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 6: and then I looked down the hill and I did

781
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 6: the little cut thing on my neck like hey, cut

782
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,919
Speaker 6: that ship out, Like what the fuck though, nigga, Yeah,

783
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 6: what the fuck? You know what I'm saying, Like I

784
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 6: helped my nigga, You know what I'm saying, Like I

785
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 6: made shown them niggas didn't come up that hill try

786
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 6: to fuck with him or whatever they was doing or

787
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 6: whatever happened, because I didn't see what happened down there

788
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 6: at the bottom of the hill. All I all I

789
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 6: all I knew was that was that I seen Alan

790
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 6: or I I had to help the nigga, you know

791
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, because he didn't you know what I'm saying.

792
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 6: He was covered with blood and shit, and I'm like, man,

793
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 6: you know, hey, man, whatever y'all niggas doing down there,

794
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 6: cut that ship out, you know what I'm saying. And

795
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 6: I'm tripping, like, y'all do you know what I'm saying.

796
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 6: But I didn't know what happened down there. But if

797
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 6: they ever if they ever got ever mad at me or.

798
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 7: Have any top of feelings towards me, man, tell him

799
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 7: I was trying to help him. You know what I'm saying.

800
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 7: I wasn't. You know what I'm saying. It wasn't nothing

801
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 7: of me. Uh you know, I wouldn't. I was not

802
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 7: happy that that should.

803
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 6: Have happened in my video. And then PACK felt bad

804
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 6: because he kept trying to get me to all of

805
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 6: the movies, said he can get me to who he

806
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 6: had kept calling me to everybody every time he did

807
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 6: a movie. You called me up there. Shit, you know

808
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 6: what I'm saying.

809
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 7: And I'm like, man, you know I did, you know,

810
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 7: But at the same time, I really wanted to. I

811
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 7: really wanted to play that role.

812
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 6: And you know, I got some I got some things

813
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 6: I'm working on now, you know, my my own little

814
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 6: movie adventures. I'm working with with a few people. I

815
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 6: don't want to say no names because I don't want

816
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 6: to jinx it and shit. But you know I'm gonna

817
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 6: need you. I'm gonna need you to come through eight.

818
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 6: And I've been talking to Caffeine crazy ass too, so

819
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 6: you know we're gonna get something to be.

820
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 7: Something about to kick off. Nigga.

821
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 6: When we get off the phone and I talked to you,

822
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell you everything. You know what I'm saying,

823
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 6: but I just don't want to say it out here

824
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 6: because I don't want to jinx it because it's some

825
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 6: real good shit.

826
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 3: I feel you, Spice. That's the thing, man, whenever you

827
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 3: got good stuff going, bro, you can't tell everybody because

828
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 3: just as many people be praying for you, dog's remember,

829
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 3: it's even more people trying to pray against it happen,

830
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 3: putting all kind of bad energy in there.

831
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, niggaga, then you know. But but eight eight, my nigga,

832
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. So I mean, for sure

833
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 6: you're good whatever whatever whatever go down, if if if

834
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 6: if whatever it's going.

835
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 7: Down, if it's if it's a uh, if it's a

836
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 7: downer to be made, man, believe you must best believe.

837
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 7: Probably gonna call eight call my niggas like niggas the

838
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 7: money on the line.

839
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 3: Nigga, let me get Let me ask you this, Spice,

840
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 3: because I know Pocket was your man. You and him

841
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 3: ran real tough. Did you kind of think he was

842
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 3: kind of out of pocket a little bit for.

843
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 4: Beating on them dudes like that.

844
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:40,959
Speaker 6: I don't, you know, I don't know because I didn't

845
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 6: I don't know what was going going on at the

846
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 6: bottom of that hill.

847
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.

848
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 4: I didn't see it, Okay, I got you.

849
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 7: I didn't see my my cousins and stuff. They was

850
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 7: down there.

851
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 6: My niggas from Promona, you know, Tyrans Uh eight T

852
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 6: Bone and Ship T Bone Nim was down.

853
00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 7: There with with Uh with Mopreme and Macadochi's.

854
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 6: Nim and I think and thug likee niggas and and

855
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 6: Uh and Uh. Some of my niggas from the one

856
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 6: A seven Facts and Bay niggas was down there and.

857
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 7: Ship or whatever. But you know, I didn't know what

858
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 7: what happened down there, but I was.

859
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 6: I was kind of upset over the whole thing. But

860
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 6: you know, I wasn't mad at Pot because that was

861
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 6: between him and you know him, him and him and

862
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 6: the Hughes.

863
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 7: Brothers and Ship.

864
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 2: I didn't want to say every story Bay handles different.

865
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 3: Everybody stuff different, whatever. I just know the nineties was

866
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 3: a many time dog. The nineties it was. It's so

867
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 3: soft now you can't even steal on a nigga. You

868
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 3: gonna get sued and everything else for somebody talking crazy

869
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 3: to you. If somebody says something nowadays and you bomb

870
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 3: on that person when you see them you are either

871
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 3: going to jail or getting sued.

872
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 7: All them niggas don't shoot you.

873
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 2: It's because, like I said, today is uh, it's a

874
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 2: different time right now. Man, everything is about everything is

875
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 2: about content and creating ship and being able to be whatever.

876
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 4: So you know they use that word real.

877
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 2: Lightly today snitching and you know all that type of ship.

878
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 2: You know, I come from where it was a different meaning.

879
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 2: You get me, mother fucking ship for you, run over

880
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 2: and mother for you, run over a nigga skate and jail.

881
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 4: You snitching today? You get me.

882
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 2: Everything is qualified as snitching. It's just a different time.

883
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 2: You get me if you came from I don't know.

884
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 2: I came from different era.

885
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 6: Man.

886
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 7: You know, nigga, we in a time where you can't

887
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:39,919
Speaker 7: even eat a hot dog you gave.

888
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's real.

889
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 2: I mean like really everything everything, and like you, we

890
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 2: don't really we don't, we don't really, Uh you know, Spice,

891
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 2: I tell you, I'm like I tell everybody, we don't

892
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 2: really fuck with you know that subject you know on

893
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 2: the show because you know it's a very sensitive matter.

894
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 2: You get me right right you You you won't be

895
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 2: able to do a concert anymore from certain things you say,

896
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 2: you won't be able to celebrate, you won't ever be

897
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 2: able to So I try to tread lightly when it comes.

898
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 7: To something on that subject.

899
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 2: Like you said, it's supposed to be able to have

900
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 2: freedom of speech, but we all know, and everybody in

901
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 2: here know, there's certain things you can't say about certain

902
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 2: groups because they just won't have it.

903
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 4: Man. Like you say, freedom of speaks, just watch what

904
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 4: you say.

905
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 2: You definitely now Now, like I said, I don't really

906
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 2: speak on that, but I'm gonna ask you a question

907
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 2: still because you will you you know, you like the

908
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 2: slide ship in you've seen all this controversy with what

909
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 2: what what is it? What's his name? Blueface? And the

910
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 2: ship about when they had the strippers in the house, right,

911
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 2: he got strippers in his house. He got his kid here,

912
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 2: you know, his little son, little son in there looking

913
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 2: for some tato chips or something. So he got he

914
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 2: got about three four girls in the living room. You know,

915
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: they stripping, they doing their thing. So the son in

916
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 2: there looking for tato chips. He asked the son, are

917
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 2: you in here looking forotato chips? When his ass in

918
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 2: the living room?

919
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 4: Are you gay?

920
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 7: What?

921
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 4: He asked? The son are you gay?

922
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 2: Because you are in here looking for tato chips and

923
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 2: not looking at ass in the living room. So this

924
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 2: is the question I want to say, because everybody's in

925
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 2: the uproar about that question. Do you feel it was

926
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 2: out of line?

927
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: Oh?

928
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 6: It was definitely inappropriate? Yeah, that was That was not

929
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 6: a line, It was inappropriate line. Okay, I'm asking you

930
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 6: another question. They're trying to introduce stuff like that in

931
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 6: school to elementary kids. So what's improper? Would you like

932
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 6: your kid being talked at in school or because or

933
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 6: do you feel he's asking a question? Because right now,

934
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 6: at this age, do you have to question your kid

935
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 6: about his sexuality because of what's going on seeing everywhere

936
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 6: right see? If you want to ask your child is

937
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 6: he of a different sex nature? When you know they

938
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 6: are openly So what is your answer to that? What

939
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 6: do you think about that? You answer me, I'm asking

940
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 6: all of y'all.

941
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 3: Well, you know what I think, man, I think we

942
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 3: living in real periless times right now, bro, because I

943
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 3: think we asking questions to kids like you know you

944
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 3: think about it. In some cases, these kids are as

945
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 3: young as six and seven years old. What do they

946
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 3: know about that? Outside of all they want to do

947
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 3: is go to school and play with their friends. They

948
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 3: want to go to school, right, play with their friends,

949
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 3: go outside, play football, get dirty, same stuff we was doing.

950
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 3: So you introducing stuff, man, I almost think it's almost

951
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 3: like an inducting an introduction to stuff. I think people

952
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 3: are being programmed right now more than they ever are,

953
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 3: because see, what they're slowly doing is taking the rights

954
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 3: from the parents right to where if your child comes

955
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 3: home and decides that they want to go be becom

956
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 3: if Tom decides he wants to become Tamantha, you're supposed

957
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 3: to let that happen and not have no say so

958
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 3: about it, or they ain't come and take them out

959
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 3: your house.

960
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 2: I just want to clarify that we have nothing against

961
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 2: oh nothing at all lest BNS right now, Okay, but

962
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 2: I just want to I just want to clarify that

963
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 2: so people don't think that, so people don't think that

964
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 2: we're one sided.

965
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 4: But I'm just playing.

966
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: I'm playing Devil's advocate because again, you see protests happening

967
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 2: at schools where they're trying to introduce textbooks or literature

968
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 2: that that basically be who you want to be as

969
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 2: a child. You know, the rainbow here and the two

970
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 2: kids in the book or whatever they're pushing the wait,

971
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 2: is it wrong because that's going on for you to

972
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 2: go son, are you yay?

973
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 4: But how is he presenting everywhere?

974
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 6: It's everywhere, It's on commercials, when you watch TV, it's

975
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 6: on bus bendits, it's on the way he did in

976
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 6: every culture, right, and like saying that it's wrong? But

977
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,919
Speaker 6: now is it wrong to go hmmm because he said,

978
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 6: you're not in here watching his ass bouncing. Of course,

979
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,919
Speaker 6: of course he's being you know what I'm saying, he's

980
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 6: doing it for content, Okay, of course, but as a

981
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 6: regular motherfucker, which you feel that you would have to

982
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 6: question your child because of what is going on right

983
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 6: now in that type of situation, definitely have to.

984
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 3: Talk to your child or to let them know that, hey,

985
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 3: in this household, this is how we do things, you

986
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 3: know what I mean?

987
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 2: And they feel it's wrong for you to question your child. Listen,

988
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,439
Speaker 2: because you're supposed to let him do what he wanted

989
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 2: to do. You're supposed to accept your choice. So is

990
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 2: it wrong to like them?

991
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 7: I don't tell you like what what your what your

992
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 7: grandmama said, what your aunt said.

993
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 4: What you can't. You can't go off for what your

994
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 4: grandmother and let me let me, let me, let me

995
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:40,919
Speaker 4: say it first.

996
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 7: Let me say it first.

997
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 6: For them for them to know that, they had to

998
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 6: see it somewhere, They had to see it somewhere. They

999
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 6: had to learn it, they had to see it somewhere

1000
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 6: for them to even know that. If they don't, you

1001
00:47:55,560 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 6: don't know what you don't see. You know, I I

1002
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 6: personally don't think that that you can be born in

1003
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,919
Speaker 6: and you know, and and and be that that way. See,

1004
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 6: we're not going We're not We don't want to go

1005
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 6: off of that. We don't want to go to the

1006
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 6: opinion of you know, we don't want to focus on

1007
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 6: if you're born or another. That's not what we're going off.

1008
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, as a parent, as a as a

1009
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 2: as a parent, you got a kid going to school,

1010
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 2: there are six seven you know. You you know you

1011
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 2: could you you could be sitting up right now watching

1012
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 2: regular TV with your child and you'll see two women engaged.

1013
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 2: You'll see two men engaged, and your kid is sitting there.

1014
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 2: So is it wrong for you to ask your kid

1015
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 2: that question?

1016
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 6: I think you definitely better talk to your kids about

1017
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 6: it's wrong. But you know you're not wrong for asking him,

1018
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 6: but the way that he the way that that uh

1019
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,760
Speaker 6: uh that blue, and the way he presented the question

1020
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 6: to his child was wrong.

1021
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 7: He was supposed to do that shit in private.

1022
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,760
Speaker 2: But you know, like I said, this is the world

1023
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 2: of this is the world of content creation, and this

1024
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 2: is the world of Instagram and Internet and social media

1025
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 2: and everything is a joke and nothing is taken seriously.

1026
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 4: So we get that.

1027
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 2: But on a different serious note, would you feel that

1028
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 2: would be a question that you would have to present

1029
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 2: to your child or do you even present that.

1030
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 6: I wouldn't even I wouldn't even bring the question of

1031
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 6: I wouldn't even bring the question of unless unless I've

1032
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 6: seen something that was really you know, really.

1033
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 2: So different different question, different times, still, yes, Ryan, different question,

1034
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 2: different times.

1035
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 7: You got to take him.

1036
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 2: Somewhere through that prior the time is your child because

1037
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 2: the kid coming home with a school book that you

1038
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 2: get me?

1039
00:49:58,800 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: What do you do?

1040
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 3: What do you think you staying on your morals and principle?

1041
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 3: See the thing will we can't get done? This the

1042
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 3: thing we can't do and the thing I'm not gonna

1043
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 3: do is I'm never going to sacrifice my integrity just

1044
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 3: because mother, the rest of the world is going goofy,

1045
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 3: you feel what I'm saying. I'm never gonna do that now, people.

1046
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 3: I'm respectful of all people.

1047
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: Man.

1048
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 3: I don't have no problem with what people decide to do.

1049
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 3: I'm all about choice, right, But the moment you start

1050
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 3: really subliminally programming children, because that's what they're doing. They're

1051
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 3: programming these kids in the school today, they're really programming them.

1052
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 4: And if you're not careful, I wouldn't care what I

1053
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 4: had to do.

1054
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 3: If I still had little kids eight my kids wouldn't

1055
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 3: be going to no public schools.

1056
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:44,720
Speaker 4: They going to public schools.

1057
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 3: If I had little kids there, if I had grandchildren

1058
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 3: right now, and even if my kids couldn't afford that,

1059
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 3: my grandkids would be going to a private school, because

1060
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 3: you have to. At some point, you got to put

1061
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 3: your foot down and say hold on, enough of the

1062
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 3: bullshit is bullshit. This bullshit is.

1063
00:50:59,320 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 4: Going on right now.

1064
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 3: Like I saw some shit right now to what they

1065
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 3: say it that the doctors can no longer tell a

1066
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 3: woman they have a vagina. It's called a bonus hole. Now,

1067
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 3: what the fuck is going on? Wow, it's a bonus hole.

1068
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 3: There's a bonus hole now. So now and it's like

1069
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 3: one of them. You don't call it a pussy no more.

1070
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 3: You call that motherfucker, that hole, that third hole.

1071
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 6: That bonus holey, My nigga, say, baby, what's cracking?

1072
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 4: Let me get some of that bonus hold.

1073
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 5: And now you give me a scenario. It's like my

1074
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 5: son right now, you talk about the private school.

1075
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 4: So my son is four.

1076
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 5: We put him in a in a private school, a

1077
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,720
Speaker 5: language school, so he could learn all the different languages

1078
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 5: and everything. This particular year, he's one of two maybe

1079
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 5: three boys in a class of about ten eleven girls.

1080
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 5: So you fall back into that same kind of a

1081
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 5: scenario that now he's around majority girls now, and that

1082
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 5: was a serious concern even even with his mom, like

1083
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 5: you know, are y'all gonna bring more girls or brought

1084
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 5: more boys into this class. It's a real type of thing.

1085
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 5: You put him in this type of scenario, he's gonna

1086
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 5: learn in that manner just is what it is around

1087
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 5: that every single day, that's what he see what he see.

1088
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 5: So you know, the private school aspect of it, you're

1089
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 5: still gonna run into it, but in an indirect way

1090
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 5: if that makes sense, yeah.

1091
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 3: Or either that would homeschool minds. I'm being real with you, dog,

1092
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 3: It's just certain stuff that you gotta put your foot

1093
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 3: down because before I'm anything, you know. So, I'm a

1094
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 3: man of God.

1095
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 7: They don't teach that in the Muslim school.

1096
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 3: And I live on certain principles and not seeing I'm

1097
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 3: super religious, right, I don't put religion on nobody, but

1098
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 3: I'm a man of God, and I believe certain things.

1099
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 3: Can't nobody stop me. But you're the same token. I

1100
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 3: believe the people have a right to choice right when

1101
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 3: they're mature enough to understand what it is they get into. Now,

1102
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 3: anytime you're talking to somebody to me under fifteen, dog

1103
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 3: about that stuff right there, you kind of out of

1104
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 3: pocket because what are you talking to kids in kindergarten

1105
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 3: about that?

1106
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: For?

1107
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just like they just did the stuff with

1108
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 3: the Muppets. They turned the Homeboy gons over to where

1109
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 3: he turned into a girl to.

1110
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 4: Go to the thing.

1111
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 3: But my thing is this, If y'all doing that in

1112
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,879
Speaker 3: them adult shows, I don't care, but this is something

1113
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 3: that's catered towards to the children.

1114
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 4: So are y'all doing it in this show?

1115
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 7: I'm just tripping.

1116
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 6: They take they take they take the Bible, and they

1117
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 6: take God out of school.

1118
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 4: But then they allow that.

1119
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 5: You know, it was introduced to us, you know in

1120
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 5: the in the late eighties, early nineties. I was in

1121
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 5: middle school and I was in sixth grade and they

1122
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,399
Speaker 5: had a program and we really didn't talk about nothing

1123
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 5: until that time. But when we got the sixth seventh grade,

1124
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 5: there was a program specifically and it was called SFA

1125
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 5: with Skills for Adolescents, and in that class, they was

1126
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 5: rawlling uncut in that class because the neighborhood that we

1127
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 5: lived in, you was dealing with real life shit. You

1128
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 5: was dealing with real STDs. And then ladies will tell you,

1129
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 5: like there was a lady who was here and she

1130
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 5: will say, this is what this disease is. This is

1131
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 5: what you get, this is what happened. So we didn't

1132
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 5: never talk about none of that stuff until I was

1133
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 5: like in six seventh grade. But when it was coming

1134
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 5: from the neighborhood that we came from, going.

1135
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 2: Uncut, I mean I got introduced to sex education in

1136
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 2: school and stuff like that, but me growing up, I

1137
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 2: was never introduced to you get me, that just wasn't

1138
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 2: something that the old school grandparents and shit, they didn't

1139
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 2: talk about Now you knew somebody you knew, because let's

1140
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 2: face it, you knew somebody who was gay. You didn't

1141
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 2: talk about it. They did their thing, you know, if

1142
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 2: they came over at a family function.

1143
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 4: Or you know, it was I got a cousins. Like

1144
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 4: I said, it wasn't. It was nothing major. Yeah, when

1145
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 4: you get down, you get down. But I wasn't. I

1146
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 4: wasn't taught that. You get me.

1147
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 2: I didn't turn on Saturday morning cartoons and I didn't

1148
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 2: see two men riding on a bike then programming.

1149
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 4: I didn't you get me.

1150
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 2: I didn't go to school and have to open my

1151
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 2: book and learn about somebody who was gay in their profession.

1152
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 2: If they did a job, they just did a job.

1153
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 2: They didn't want they didn't want to speak on this

1154
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 2: person was the first gay person who did this.

1155
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 4: I'm didn't do that. I'm surprised you don't push this

1156
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 4: into this conversation.

1157
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 2: No, just it's just because I just wanted to ask

1158
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 2: the question because it has something to do with the children.

1159
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 2: And you see a lot of you know, now, you

1160
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 2: see a lot of tug of war, like it wasn't like,

1161
00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 2: it's no big deal when it's an adult hood you

1162
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:04,439
Speaker 2: get me, we have no problem. But I just say,

1163
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 2: like when when And it's really about the standards of

1164
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 2: what people feel is oh, that's fucked up, but that's

1165
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 2: not fucked up.

1166
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 6: That's fucked up. It would be this that ain't fucked up.

1167
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 6: And it's the way shit is right now. And that's

1168
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 6: what made me bring it up because Okay, you say

1169
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 6: it's fucked up that he said that, but then.

1170
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 2: They doing this shit in school and that's not fucked up.

1171
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 2: So what is fucked up at a certain point to

1172
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 2: where we all get on the same page and go

1173
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 2: that shit is not cool and we all going that

1174
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 2: shit ain't cool.

1175
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you this. On the network, we have

1176
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:50,439
Speaker 3: a show is to lesbian women. Right, most gay people

1177
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 3: will tell you what's wrong nowadays.

1178
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 4: I just don't. I just don't get the.

1179
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 2: Like I said, we want our plates quote you get me,

1180
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 2: and we want our rights and we want our whatever whatever,

1181
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,359
Speaker 2: But you can't talk about us. You can't put us

1182
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 2: in a comical situation, or you can't address certain shit

1183
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 2: that like no, like if if me as a parent

1184
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 2: has an issue with that, I should be able to

1185
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:21,479
Speaker 2: flex that because it has.

1186
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 4: Something to do with my kid.

1187
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 2: But now I got but now it's got to be

1188
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 2: you know, the million man march protest against what I

1189
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 2: want to do for my kid, and we that shit

1190
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 2: Like I don't understand that we all got children.

1191
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 3: I know, AG, you got adult children as well as

1192
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 3: you know, all your children for the most part of adults. Correct,

1193
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 3: yes you got you have a younger child, little ones,

1194
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 3: spice all your kids adults right now, you got.

1195
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: Some little ones.

1196
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 4: I got eleven year old.

1197
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 3: Say so you got eleven year old right now? With

1198
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 3: society being with it is is, don't you kind of

1199
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 3: review what your son is doing now more than ever,

1200
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 3: especially the times we're living in.

1201
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 4: Do you police him a little bit more? I do?

1202
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean you have to because you don't know

1203
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 6: what what's what's going on with you know, somebody could

1204
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 6: be in influencing him to to to do something he

1205
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 6: ain't really feeling.

1206
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 7: And you know what I'm saying, because uh, trying to

1207
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 7: manipulate him.

1208
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 6: Into like sp just so just social media do that,

1209
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 6: just watch TV can do that.

1210
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: You get me?

1211
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 6: You you like you have to you have to be

1212
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 6: able to to be able to watch your kid man,

1213
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 6: or or any situation you have to become. You have

1214
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 6: to become a bigger role model in his life and

1215
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 6: and and have them have him want to be more

1216
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 6: like you than anybody.

1217
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying is influential to motherfucker's Yeah.

1218
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 3: Doing with this social media is dangerous because you have

1219
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 3: grown men going to these little girls in boxes.

1220
00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you, up until a certain age, I

1221
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 4: was on her Instagram with her.

1222
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,959
Speaker 6: I had it right in my accounts, Like I said

1223
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 6: my daughter some years ago, Yeah you can have this stuff,

1224
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 6: but I'm here where I can see because you could

1225
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 6: have you and I will have some nigga.

1226
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 4: That's my age trying to be all up in your thing.

1227
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 3: And the thing is when a grown man is talking

1228
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 3: to a young girl, especially a young girl that don't

1229
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 3: have no male presence in her house or no, Yeah,

1230
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 3: they get the liking that attention. The next thing you know,

1231
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 3: they meeting the motherfucker up at seven and lefting some

1232
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 3: damn where and you would never see your daughter.

1233
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:34,919
Speaker 4: Again, never see you do exactly what I told my daughter.

1234
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 7: She was.

1235
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 5: So coming up the way I did. I was never

1236
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 5: when social media came out or they came out with

1237
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 5: the what's the first thing they had? MySpace? Yeah, yeah, MySpace.

1238
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 5: I never had a midspace, never had a Facebook, never

1239
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 5: had any of that stuff because the way I was

1240
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 5: raised it was I looked at that stuff, is that

1241
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 5: look at me, look at me, look at me. In

1242
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 5: a way I was raised was always kind of staying

1243
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 5: out the way. So exactly, you know, I played ball

1244
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 5: and everything, so you know you was gonna be in

1245
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 5: the spotlight here, there and there. But that's how Yeah,

1246
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 5: the same thing you all that being up in there

1247
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 5: my faces even like my Instagram, my business. Now you

1248
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 5: know when I started this my business, people like you

1249
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 5: have to have social media, you have to have social media.

1250
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 5: Well I did social media. I didn't want to win

1251
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 5: against every single thing that I thought about, But if

1252
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 5: you're using it for a business purpose.

1253
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 4: It helped.

1254
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 5: Right going back to what I was talking about before,

1255
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 5: I was against it for the for the reason of

1256
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 5: you don't know who you got on the other line.

1257
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 5: I got, you know, sixty thousand, seventy some thousand followers.

1258
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 5: I don't fool with nobody. But at the end of

1259
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 5: the day, I guarantee you there's there's a big chunk

1260
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 5: of people on there that don't like me in general.

1261
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 4: For no apparent reason. So it is what it is. So, yeah,

1262
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 4: I'm worried about my daughter and I start seeing it.

1263
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 4: I didn't like.

1264
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 5: I said, I didn't know nothing about this Instagram and

1265
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 5: all this stuff. So I get onto her Instagram and

1266
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 5: here she is and talking to somebody that's up in

1267
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 5: like Connecticut. So I start doing this, you know, and

1268
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 5: I start playing with it, and you could tell us

1269
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 5: an adult. So I started looking and start getting the

1270
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 5: address and this, that and the other. There's no kids

1271
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 5: that even live with this address. She thinks she's talking

1272
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 5: to a kid the whole time. Yeah, own man up

1273
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 5: in Connecticut. And I told her, you know, you imagine that,

1274
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 5: you know, somebody come and take you. You'll never see

1275
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 5: your dad again. She like fifth and sixth grade, So

1276
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. For me that that was

1277
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 5: a crazy thing that I had to endure and go

1278
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 5: through that, and I lived and see that.

1279
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 4: Change.

1280
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 2: It change is niggas man. When you come from a

1281
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 2: different time and ship, you know what I'm saying, We

1282
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 2: get from different ship man, like we need to come

1283
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 2: from computers and internet and ship like that.

1284
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 7: We didn't come.

1285
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 2: There was no Yahoo when I was in school. Man,

1286
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 2: it wasn't school. I mean, yeah, it wasn't cell phones tho. No, no,

1287
01:01:54,520 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 2: I remember. I remember when I first said that house

1288
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 2: phone and ship the whole receipt.

1289
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 7: You know.

1290
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 3: The first cell phone I ever had, it only lasted

1291
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 3: me two months. I had one of them brick phones.

1292
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 4: I went one thought I was a ball of calling

1293
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 4: my mama, calling everybody. That bill Okay, Nigga was five

1294
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 4: grand I said, oh, ship, that ship might have just

1295
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 4: came off my credit. I thought people were just over

1296
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 4: talking about them bills like yeah.

1297
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 2: Cracking Nigga, my Nigga cell phone bill. And when they

1298
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 2: first came out, I think mine. I think I paid

1299
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 2: about two thousand for a cell phone bill.

1300
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 4: Nigga. I ain't pay for nothing because I saw that bill.

1301
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 4: I said, I met my Nigga. I met Nigga.

1302
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 2: I remember when I first went to Europe, Nigga. I

1303
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 2: thought I was at home Nigga, and I got on

1304
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 2: the hotel phone. Nigga was talking to everybody back in

1305
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 2: the hood. Nigga was chatting for about an hour. Then

1306
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 2: Nigga got this.

1307
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 6: They got ready to check out their motherfuckers came to

1308
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 6: the door. They had security by the door. They wouldn't

1309
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 6: let a nigg out of his rule. They like, Nigga,

1310
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 6: you owe us about three grand I'm like, they like, Nigga,

1311
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 6: you called back to America. Nigga, he was on the

1312
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 6: phone for like forty five feet difference. You'd be on

1313
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 6: the phone with somebody at night because Nigga, I'm talking.

1314
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 6: You say it again, Nigga, damn three round dollars on

1315
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 6: a fucking phone bill, Nigga. Nigga fucking inside by Nigga.

1316
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 6: But I've been side the road, feet kicked up, nigg

1317
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 6: the fall looking that. Yeah, Nigga, we're in some foreign

1318
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 6: country right now, Nigga. Yeah, niggas cracking out here, whooping.

1319
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 6: Nigga just chatted like a buffer Nigga downstairs, like is

1320
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 6: he still the motherfucker's downstairs?

1321
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 2: They got Look, they have got a gig of people

1322
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 2: around the motherfucking board downstairs.

1323
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 4: They are is he still all? They like, hell, yeah,

1324
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 4: they how much right now? Two grand? Right now? Lovely,

1325
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 4: And they make about right there.

1326
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 2: They weren't gonna let the nigga check out that way.

1327
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 2: Ain't none of that, None of that running out the

1328
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 2: back door shit with their nigga. It was overwet two

1329
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 2: grand off motherfucking pocket. They want their money now, they

1330
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 2: wanted now.

1331
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 5: Man.

1332
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 3: You know what though, Man, the thing is this right.

1333
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 3: The further we go with technology, man, the more you

1334
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 3: have to police your kids. And we have a time

1335
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 3: now to where parents is trying to be their kids

1336
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 3: friends instead of being a daddy. I always told my

1337
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 3: kids and my sons in particular, I'm not here to

1338
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 3: be your friend.

1339
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 4: You know.

1340
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, all you want to right now, but one thing,

1341
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 3: you go appreciate what I'm telling you, and I give

1342
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 3: my kids come back to me, especially my boys grown men.

1343
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 4: Damn, pops, you was right. I told you. I know

1344
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 4: what I'm talking about. We ain't here just we we

1345
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 4: haven't been around this loan just on accident.

1346
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 7: You just go your life, Coach, you better listen to me,

1347
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 7: and shit you gotta take.

1348
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 2: You gotta be you know, you just gotta take the

1349
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 2: lessons that you learned coming up and the mistakes that

1350
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 2: you made. And so I'm of the crazy shit that

1351
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 2: you went through and you just got to inform them.

1352
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 6: Man.

1353
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 2: You know I some shit you get me. So I'm

1354
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 2: trying to I'm trying to put you in a place

1355
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 2: where you ain't gotta walk that hard line, man, cause

1356
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 2: real nigga I walked. It was some hard lines man

1357
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 2: and Compton in the early eighties and shit, eighty five

1358
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 2: eighty six eighty cent man, Please niggas trying to sell

1359
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 2: dope nigga with six niggas on the block, and we

1360
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 2: all trying to rush the same car.

1361
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 1: And what's the same card.

1362
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 6: I've been through some hard walks, man, So you try

1363
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 6: to instill shipping the kids that hopefully they won't have

1364
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 6: as hard as a motherfucking walk as you. Now, you're

1365
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 6: gonna have some hard times now, I mean unless you

1366
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 6: was born and even and even the motherfucker's born with

1367
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 6: all the money in the silver booms in their mouth,

1368
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 6: then beat the motherfuckers jump out the high rise window

1369
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 6: and shit, they can't take what.

1370
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 3: I would do different though, eight you have to cut

1371
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 3: you off, bro, go ahead, But I would do that

1372
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 3: different man. I think sometimes, man, because my kids was

1373
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 3: raised way more spoiled than I was.

1374
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 4: It's like it was a treat for us to go

1375
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 4: to McDonald's. We went to McDonald's. Was it was of

1376
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 4: course Koya's dog.

1377
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 3: They was raised like this one come home. I don't

1378
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 3: feel like chicken? Can you make me misteak? So I'm

1379
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 3: looking at my wife at three males, three different meals,

1380
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 3: and I'm like, man, it used to be back today,

1381
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,439
Speaker 3: moms make a pot of a tin of corn bread

1382
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 3: and a pot of beans and you might eat them

1383
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 3: motherfuckers for three days though.

1384
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 2: But see that's because that's because wifey or whatever. People

1385
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 2: they feel like, I want my kid to have to

1386
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 2: go through what I had, what I went through, and

1387
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 2: that's what turned me. And like you said back in

1388
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 2: the Nigga, you don't want what oh, then you don't

1389
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,959
Speaker 2: eat the night motherfuckers? You gonna eat this fucking ship

1390
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 2: that I cooked, or you don't and and and and

1391
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 2: going through that. Now you got your kids and you

1392
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 2: be like and like you said, they'll come home and

1393
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 2: Chris will be like, no, I want motherfucking chicken.

1394
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 4: I want a steak. And then your daughter come home

1395
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 4: and like, I don't want chicken.

1396
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 3: Ors And I see my wife stop doing what she

1397
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 3: doing to get up and then to break her nick

1398
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 3: to go do it, And I'm like, you're not helping

1399
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 3: them when you do that, because all you doing is

1400
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 3: raising a spoiled, entitled ass person.

1401
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 4: That's all you doing. And they don't look at you.

1402
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 4: She don't look at it.

1403
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 1: It's hard.

1404
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 2: Like I have the ability and I have the means

1405
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 2: to do what they request. And like when I was

1406
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 2: growing up, nigga, if we was having motherfucking beans and

1407
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 2: rice for dinner, that's what you ate and you better

1408
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 2: not fucking complain.

1409
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 4: And I whoop your.

1410
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 2: Ass, nigga, you finish sit up in here and played

1411
01:07:56,640 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 2: about eating some fucking beads. I will beat your ass first,

1412
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 2: and then I'm gonna send you to bed Holgary and

1413
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 2: ship without. So you either shut the fuck up and

1414
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 2: eat this beads and rice or take this ass whooping

1415
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 2: and go in your room.

1416
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 4: The fuck you for me?

1417
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 5: When the way that I was, I was raising pairing,

1418
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 5: I couldn't have asked for it to be any different. Still,

1419
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 5: your mommy a lot of my dad and my dad's

1420
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 5: six six to seventy five, you know, uh the way,

1421
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 5: and everybody was terrified of my dad, you know, growing up.

1422
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 5: I mean when I tell you, like he was debo

1423
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 5: before there was debo back in the day. Deebo used

1424
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 5: to be zeus so Everybody used to always ask my dad,

1425
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 5: you know, they would ask him to, hey, do zeus,

1426
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 5: do zeus. I mean he was that guy in the neighborhood.

1427
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 5: And uh, the way that people projected by looking at

1428
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 5: my dad, they thought that, uh, I stayed and did

1429
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 5: didn't do certain ship because my dad would. I was

1430
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 5: worried what my dad would do. But what they didn't

1431
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 5: know behind closed doors is my dad's philosophy, what everything was.

1432
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 5: He took me everywhere. He put me in the middle

1433
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,759
Speaker 5: of every single thing. He told me playing and simple.

1434
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 5: He said, if you want to drink or smoke, he said,

1435
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 5: do it at home. I don't want you to be

1436
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 5: out out and about where you might have That was

1437
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:15,719
Speaker 5: my Mom's a lot to hurt any too. Yeah, crazy,

1438
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 5: and I'm telling you a thousand percent. So for me,

1439
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 5: you know, as a little boy, most of my my

1440
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 5: uncles and you know I said had uncles. I was

1441
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 5: the first born. So when I was born, my uncles

1442
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 5: were still in high school. So you know, their babysitting me.

1443
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 5: They're taking me and I'm getting dumped from this person

1444
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 5: of this person, taken from this person to this person.

1445
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 5: So for me to grow up, I grew up with

1446
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 5: teenagers as babysitters. So I seen my uncles literally and

1447
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 5: go in the room and they and they're smoking bud

1448
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 5: with Rick James posters on the wall and shit like

1449
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 5: that was really going on in my life. So for me,

1450
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 5: none of that shit was. It didn't entice me because

1451
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 5: I seen it every you know what I mean, on

1452
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:56,839
Speaker 5: a daily basis. I seen it on a consistent basis.

1453
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 5: So for me, you know, everybody used to look at

1454
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 5: and think, you know, well, Chris hoops and this that

1455
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 5: and the other. You know what I'm saying, he plays

1456
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 5: ball and the reason he's man my dad. I'm gonna

1457
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 5: keep it one thousand. I see my dad do everything.

1458
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 5: My dad never kept nothing from me. He'll tell you,

1459
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 5: you know literally, I got shot twice being with him,

1460
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:20,680
Speaker 5: you know, under four years old. But the reality of

1461
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 5: it was in my life to make it to be

1462
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 5: forty four years old as I stand right now. All

1463
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 5: the ship that he showed me and then introduced me

1464
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:31,760
Speaker 5: too is the reason why I'm alive.

1465
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 4: Today and make the help you survive.

1466
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:35,480
Speaker 7: Exactly.

1467
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 5: Listen, people talk to some discipline self. People have a

1468
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 5: whole different, a whole different vision of it and it's crazy.

1469
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:44,879
Speaker 5: You know, people don't really understand.

1470
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:45,640
Speaker 1: You know.

1471
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 5: They look at all you you got your dad at home, this,

1472
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:50,600
Speaker 5: that and the other. And my dad was he was

1473
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 5: a great guy, but he was a motherfucker. I'm gonna

1474
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 5: tell you that right now.

1475
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

1476
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:57,760
Speaker 5: He was a motherfucker. But he introduced me to the

1477
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 5: real world. So when I when I got out the about,

1478
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 5: I was able to talk to people. When I was

1479
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 5: playing sports and it was time for me to interview

1480
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:06,719
Speaker 5: with people, I knew how to talk, how to carry myself.

1481
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:10,679
Speaker 5: So every single thing, you know, where I'm at today

1482
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 5: and what's going on today is because the way that

1483
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 5: he raised me. I try to raise my son in

1484
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:16,639
Speaker 5: the same exact manner. My daughter is in the same

1485
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 5: exact manner.

1486
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 3: You have to, yeah, yeah, it be important that you

1487
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 3: and your woman be on the same page with stuff

1488
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 3: because the one thing is this right here, I'm a

1489
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 3: person that live in reality.

1490
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:30,680
Speaker 4: And this is to all pops out there.

1491
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 3: If you have a daughter, that little girl that you

1492
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 3: love holding on your lap, it's a little girl. She's

1493
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 3: gonna be a young adult one day, and this little

1494
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 3: boy's out there, you better tell your daughter the real

1495
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 3: because for you to sit up there to think your daughter,

1496
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 3: ain't nobody ever be able to you know, crack the

1497
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 3: you know, crack the code so to speak. You feel

1498
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, somebody is going to get her attention

1499
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 3: one day. You better tell her what the hell is

1500
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 3: going on and what's real?

1501
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1502
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 7: Yeah, because I got fold of them.

1503
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, you better tell him what's you know? When tapes?

1504
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:05,640
Speaker 5: When tapes turned from tapes to CDs, I was in

1505
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 5: seventh grade. My first CD, believe it or not, the

1506
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 5: first CD when it went from tape to CD was

1507
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:14,560
Speaker 5: Countin's most Wanted Music to drive by. That was that

1508
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 5: was my first CD. And that's what my parents bought me.

1509
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:22,679
Speaker 5: They bought me those that music. They bought me the chronic.

1510
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 5: My dad was blowed. One day he tried it. He

1511
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 5: asked me, said hey.

1512
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 4: He was like, you want to smoke with me? And

1513
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 4: I looked square at him. I said no. He was like, man,

1514
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 4: you're good. You know what I'm saying. This, this is this.

1515
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 5: I didn't want to smoke. And he said, so you're

1516
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 5: telling me all that music counts most wanted? Uh, Doctor

1517
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 5: dreda chronic and it's in front of you and you

1518
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 5: with these guys every single day, and you don't smoke.

1519
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 5: I just choose not to, you know what I'm saying. Like,

1520
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:48,560
Speaker 5: I believe if you put people in a position to

1521
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:52,639
Speaker 5: see things, they're gonna they're gonna make the right decisions

1522
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 5: based on being introduced to this stuff.

1523
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:58,640
Speaker 2: Nothing A lot of people do. Sh yeah, they want it.

1524
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 2: I never want to experience. I never wanted to know

1525
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 2: what I see. I've seen what ship I seen. I

1526
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:07,759
Speaker 2: never wanted to do no shame. I never wanted to smoke.

1527
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 2: No crack, no give me. I don't smoke day. I

1528
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:14,640
Speaker 2: don't smoke smoke weed. I smoked some weed. Now you

1529
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 2: smoke weed. Hell yeah, I'm smoking. I'm smoking right now.

1530
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 6: Okay, how old was you when you started smoking weed?

1531
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 6: Probably about maybe fourteen thirteen fourteen.

1532
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 2: I was in the seventh grade when I started smoking weed.

1533
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 2: My cousin, my cousin, my cousin smoking niggas. I had

1534
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:40,640
Speaker 2: an older I had a step brother. I went to

1535
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 2: Oklahoma on a because my pops had moved to Oklahoma,

1536
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 2: and I wanted to, you know, niggas, be like, I'm

1537
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 2: going out here, fuck this ship.

1538
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 4: You get me.

1539
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 2: So I went out there for the summer and my

1540
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:56,640
Speaker 2: stepbrother and then was smoking. But it wasn't like my

1541
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 2: dad used to smoke. My auntie smoked. I saw that

1542
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 2: green shit with the rolling papers, and I knew what

1543
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:06,720
Speaker 2: marijuana was, watching Giju shown and all that shit. So

1544
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:10,599
Speaker 2: I got I got to a fucking when I got

1545
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 2: to Oklahoma, I was in the seventh grade and we

1546
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:17,520
Speaker 2: was my brother and them was chilling and they were smoking,

1547
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 2: and I just I was sitting there and I just said,

1548
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 2: let me hit that ship, let me try it. And

1549
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 2: they both looked at each other and first that they

1550
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 2: was like hell no. And then I was like, man,

1551
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 2: let me hit the weed. Because I was already I

1552
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 2: was already influenced by the lifestyle, so to speak. I

1553
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:43,680
Speaker 2: mean I was living. I grew up in Spooktown. I

1554
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 2: was in fluting there. It was Mexicans across the street

1555
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 2: serving water all day and then my niggas down the

1556
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 2: street they had to sack. So I was already introduced

1557
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 2: that I grew up but fucking from the time from

1558
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 2: the time my parents divorced and we was living in

1559
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 2: south Gate and my dad worked at General Motors.

1560
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 4: By the time we moved to fucking Compton.

1561
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 1: It was over with.

1562
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 2: There was no other influence. These niggas is money and

1563
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:20,560
Speaker 2: these niggas so nigga bout time I was thirteen, I

1564
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 2: was already influenced. I mean there was movies like The

1565
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:26,640
Speaker 2: Warriors Out and shit like that. It was niggas on

1566
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 2: the block. There was no other influences. I mean, you know,

1567
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 2: I knew about Martin and Malcolm in school and shit

1568
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 2: like that. But when you waking up every day and

1569
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 2: you hearing drive by shootings and you seeing drug dealers

1570
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 2: and shit like that, and niggas walking up and down

1571
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 2: the block with khaki suits on and their names on

1572
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:48,599
Speaker 2: the back of their khaki suits and where they from

1573
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 2: and shit, and nigga, that's my influence. Nigga, I'm being

1574
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 2: one of them. What else is better?

1575
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 7: See?

1576
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:58,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, real shit, I remember, I say.

1577
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:02,520
Speaker 2: It better man. So I started smoking. I was already influenced.

1578
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 2: So when they had weed at thirteen and I seen it,

1579
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:10,480
Speaker 2: I had actually never seen a nigga my age.

1580
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 4: Or whatever with weed. It was always the adults. A

1581
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 4: don'tsa for the.

1582
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 6: Twelve nigga twelve thirteen, I don't know where to buy

1583
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 6: the shit from.

1584
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 4: You get me, But see these niggas got weed on

1585
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 4: the table.

1586
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:29,639
Speaker 2: And I'm feeling like I'm already one of them niggas

1587
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 2: and I'm coming from Cali. These niggas in Oakland. Fucking Homer, Nigga.

1588
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:37,680
Speaker 2: Let me hit the motherfucking weed. You get me, I

1589
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 2: get nigga. Let me hit the nigga.

1590
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 4: Hit that ship. Nigga, big, big, big Nigga busted with

1591
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 4: the sleep for about three hours.

1592
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 5: Nigga was That's the thing, though, See I seen that

1593
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:48,680
Speaker 5: as a little boy. You know what I mean when

1594
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 5: I'm telling you three and four years old. Every single

1595
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 5: week and was nothing but a party with my family

1596
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 5: with everybody. So you literally see cocaine like you literally

1597
01:16:58,920 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 5: see them.

1598
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 4: But it was something about that that made me go,

1599
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 4: I want to do.

1600
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:05,560
Speaker 1: That, do that.

1601
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 5: I didn't want to do none of that because when

1602
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 5: you look at you, like I said, you look at Stell,

1603
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 5: And when I look at Stell, I look at my dad.

1604
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 4: That's exactly my dad.

1605
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 5: When I tell you, like a man that was powerful,

1606
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:22,639
Speaker 5: everybody respected. But when I would see him and he'll

1607
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:25,720
Speaker 5: either get get drinking or he would get fucked up,

1608
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 5: he's not the same man no more. So you start

1609
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:30,560
Speaker 5: seeing people talk ship to him and say ship to

1610
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 5: him that they would not.

1611
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 4: So that's that's what made that's I knew I'm Chris Junior.

1612
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 5: So I'm like, I don't ever want to be in

1613
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:38,879
Speaker 5: that situation where somebody got to drop on me because

1614
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 5: my father couldn't fuck with my dad.

1615
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 2: I'm my father was My father was in the Navy

1616
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 2: and he had a good ass job at General Motors.

1617
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:53,760
Speaker 2: But so I didn't you know it was it was

1618
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 2: a different situation, like he wasn't the hood nigga whatever.

1619
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:02,720
Speaker 2: But still when the motherfucker did that ship, I'd be like,

1620
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 2: I don't want to be like, I don't want to

1621
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 2: do that.

1622
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 4: Ship because it is just I just I didn't want

1623
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:11,599
Speaker 4: to do that ship.

1624
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 2: And I smoked some weed, but just being able to witness,

1625
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 2: you get me those drugs and like you said, motherfucker's partied.

1626
01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 4: You get me.

1627
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:27,280
Speaker 2: They was doing motherfucking cocaine. They was hitting the needle,

1628
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 2: They was doing the dip cigarette with the sharm stick.

1629
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 4: You get me. And I see nigga, nigga, I see

1630
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 4: that sharm stick, go nigga. I be like, what the fucks?

1631
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 4: I was always in the.

1632
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 6: Man, I said, I suck. I seen my fucking dip

1633
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 6: the cigarette hit that ship.

1634
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 2: Get butt naked, nigga, go in the middle of the

1635
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:54,559
Speaker 2: street and just start running in circles, nigga traffic and everything.

1636
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there like what.

1637
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 7: They that made?

1638
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 4: That made me go, never do that ship. I don't

1639
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 4: give a never.

1640
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 7: I don't never want to be that nigga.

1641
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 4: I don't want to be that high weed is good

1642
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:11,640
Speaker 4: enough for me.

1643
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 5: You talk about yea when you talk about minutes and

1644
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:17,599
Speaker 5: you talk about like how parties used to be back

1645
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 5: then when I was a little boy, and minutes is

1646
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 5: exactly what I recall us being a kid.

1647
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:26,800
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's how the parties was. Yeah, they was.

1648
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, we went to the Yeah Mon's and dad hauled

1649
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:32,680
Speaker 2: your ass over to the homies house and they did

1650
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:34,600
Speaker 2: in the back nigger, and they put your ass in

1651
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 2: the room somewhere, and that music going all night to

1652
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:40,639
Speaker 2: three o'clock in the morning, and you trying to peek

1653
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 2: out the door and see what's going on.

1654
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 4: Always got a.

1655
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 3: Little homie, they can't sneak the one homie did what

1656
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:46,680
Speaker 3: he did, and see what I did.

1657
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:47,640
Speaker 1: But I hol it.

1658
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:49,639
Speaker 3: I picked up when I was younger, I started drinking

1659
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:51,919
Speaker 3: beer when I was about fourteen.

1660
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:57,679
Speaker 4: Hated the taste. We sneak, We sneak a beer, mark.

1661
01:19:58,960 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 7: My mount team march.

1662
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 2: You know we be in the room and they might stay.

1663
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 2: Let me, let me get this slide. It's a sip

1664
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 2: or two of the little slits or something. They used

1665
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 2: to give me that hardship black.

1666
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 4: I like beer. I like beer.

1667
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 3: When I was little and I drunk beer, and I

1668
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 3: just stopped drinking after my oldest son. He can't leave

1669
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 3: one day and say I want to drink beer and

1670
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 3: be drunk like my dad. And I saw that, I said,

1671
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 3: what the fuck.

1672
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:29,639
Speaker 4: That nigga still be Nigga still be in there, lead.

1673
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 1: It like.

1674
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 4: I used to drink like a motherfucker.

1675
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 3: No, dog didn't always want to come home with bloody

1676
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 3: knuckles and ship dog.

1677
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 6: I would act a fool, And I said, I don't

1678
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 6: like that. The example was you sober? Where he said

1679
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 6: that to you?

1680
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 7: Man?

1681
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 3: Hell No, I was just off a case, crushing beers

1682
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 3: all day, white football, crushing beers.

1683
01:20:56,920 --> 01:20:57,720
Speaker 4: I'm thinking like.

1684
01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 2: I'm thinking like he had caught you slip, like why

1685
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 2: you sober? He like, man, I would have drink and

1686
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 2: be fucked up like you, and you like you already

1687
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 2: fucked up when he said you already in the kitchen

1688
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 2: and right next to her.

1689
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:15,680
Speaker 5: In the eighties, my dad had long before it's time, akeggerator,

1690
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. He had that ship built

1691
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:20,080
Speaker 5: the people from Brown's distribute and come bring that ship

1692
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:21,760
Speaker 5: to the house, bring them kegs to the house. And

1693
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:23,720
Speaker 5: he had it like that, you know what I mean.

1694
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 5: Like that's if for me, being a kid, I went

1695
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 5: out there and just pulled it. It was, it was,

1696
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:30,879
Speaker 5: it was on tap for me. I just wasn't interested

1697
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 5: because I've seen all the bullshit. I've seen everything.

1698
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, I could see, and I could see your ass

1699
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 6: sitting up somewhere at the corner fucked up this riot.

1700
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 6: I still gonna be high as fuck off the little

1701
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 6: head of the blood every now that nigga said you

1702
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 6: funk with shroom spice, Yeah, fu with some shrooms. I

1703
01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:58,640
Speaker 6: won't eat too many of us, but I fuck with

1704
01:21:58,720 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 6: it around.

1705
01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 4: Man. I'm like funk around the first man.

1706
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:06,760
Speaker 2: I'm one of them niggas that think everything outside the

1707
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 2: weed is fucked up.

1708
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:15,480
Speaker 4: I don't give what we will well naturally need some green.

1709
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 6: Weed and shrooms is the most harmless ship that.

1710
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:21,639
Speaker 2: You don't give it that they guy put some shrooms

1711
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 2: on my steak, Nigga. I don't want those shrooms to

1712
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:28,560
Speaker 2: get high. Nigg and you put it, you put you

1713
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:29,439
Speaker 2: another difference.

1714
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 4: I'm cool. See you.

1715
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:35,640
Speaker 2: Niggas was the motherfucking peer pressure niggas is back in

1716
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 2: the hood.

1717
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 4: Go ahead, try that ship, nigga. I'm telling you this ship.

1718
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 4: Look at him. You really feel peer pressure like that?

1719
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 2: I did.

1720
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 4: You know what I did with the I want you too.

1721
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 4: I won't eat, but I don't know.

1722
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 2: I don't know like that like peer pressure. I never

1723
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:56,160
Speaker 2: eat a peer pressure in the hood because I wanted

1724
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 2: to do it. I mean like, I never felt like

1725
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 2: nobody in flew wants me to do something I didn't

1726
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 2: want to do. I never got that, and I did

1727
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 2: it because I tell my son that to this day,

1728
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:11,560
Speaker 2: watch the motherfuckers you hang with and don't let a

1729
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 2: motherfucker influence you to do a motherfucking thing. But if

1730
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 2: a nigga told me, like back then, nigga, let's run

1731
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:22,720
Speaker 2: up in here and do this. If I didn't feel like, man,

1732
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 2: I gotta do it or they gonna sweat me, I

1733
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:26,519
Speaker 2: was like niggad Come on, let's go.

1734
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 5: They in the late eighties, like the early nineties, the

1735
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 5: niggas was wild. When I tell them, seventh at seventh graders,

1736
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:35,680
Speaker 5: them was grown men.

1737
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

1738
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, mind you you know what I'm saying. I've

1739
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 5: seen enough other ship. But like you said earlier, were

1740
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:48,599
Speaker 5: about the smoking. Like to actually see somebody that age,

1741
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 5: you know what i mean, maneuver in that man. Yeah, yeah,

1742
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 5: it's crazy. I remember in seventh grade we was playing basketball.

1743
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 5: We had a basketball game, and uh, you know what

1744
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 5: I'm saying. I was real back, I didn't care about

1745
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 5: girls and ship like that at that age.

1746
01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I wasn't even on it

1747
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:05,840
Speaker 4: like that. And uh, this girl came.

1748
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 5: She came to our basketball game and she comes down

1749
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 5: to the bottom of the stands and I'll never forget

1750
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 5: she had all the Charlotte Hornets. Uh started Jackie. You

1751
01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. When they when at first the

1752
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:19,599
Speaker 5: Charlotte Wrton, she did some ship like this. She held

1753
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 5: her arms out like this. In about three, four or

1754
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 5: five niggas from the team just followed her out, like man,

1755
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:29,200
Speaker 5: what you're doing. All went on back and ran the

1756
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:30,640
Speaker 5: trail on this girl. You know what I'm saying, I

1757
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 5: don't wanted to do with that. I'm scared to death,

1758
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:35,799
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. That's that's the most probably

1759
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 5: uh when you talk about people, I didn't like that either.

1760
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 4: Help with my homeboys, you know what I'm saying, Like

1761
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 4: to this day, I never liked you. I wasn't none

1762
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 4: of that.

1763
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 7: Dog.

1764
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:48,439
Speaker 4: If I saw dudes doing that the girls, man, I

1765
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 4: was always like, you know, I came there. You know

1766
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:54,680
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying there straight up,

1767
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 4: I remember that to.

1768
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 3: Happened a lot no how a dog actually have no how,

1769
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 3: a whole lot dog. And I never was on that

1770
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 3: dog to where if I was gonna be with.

1771
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:09,679
Speaker 1: A girl dog.

1772
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 4: I never was the promiscuous, the super promiscuous, you.

1773
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:13,840
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.

1774
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:19,880
Speaker 4: With that girl, all that running trains and all that stuff. Man,

1775
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:21,479
Speaker 4: I was like, hell, no, you know what I mean.

1776
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:24,560
Speaker 4: We didn't run trains, but we nigga, we we we

1777
01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 4: we dealt with a lot of you.

1778
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 3: Know, young you know young as you being up in

1779
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:32,599
Speaker 3: the Bay, the Bay is a whole different galaxy.

1780
01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 1: Like yeah, I mean, you know, it really is. I

1781
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 1: had I have my Uh.

1782
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 7: I got a cousin from out the park, from from

1783
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 7: Compy and ship y'all there.

1784
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, I took, I took. I said, cousin, let's

1785
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 6: go get some Let's go get some weed. He said, Okay,

1786
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 6: I said, let's we gonna go. I said, we couldn't

1787
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 6: go to the red fence and get some crip weed.

1788
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:09,439
Speaker 1: To be crazy.

1789
01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 4: That's just because it up in the Bay, isn't nah.

1790
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:16,639
Speaker 1: I mean.

1791
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:22,720
Speaker 6: In certain areas, but not not the actual Bay, the

1792
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 6: city surrounding that water.

1793
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 2: Hell now, hell now, I ain't never be no chacraments

1794
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:36,800
Speaker 2: Northern considered. Yeah, they an gang Bay. They cripping blood

1795
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:40,519
Speaker 2: up in Sack, They cripping blood in South Central. They

1796
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:43,840
Speaker 2: cripping blood in San Diego. Uh, you know, and a

1797
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 2: lot of spots in between, you know, the seasides, the

1798
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 2: fucking sweetnesses and all that fresh nose, the San Jose's,

1799
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:57,360
Speaker 2: you know, shout out to my, my, my, my peoples

1800
01:26:57,439 --> 01:27:00,679
Speaker 2: up in even the north, the northern you know, even Essays.

1801
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 2: You got the Southerners, the Northerners, you know, but in

1802
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:09,880
Speaker 2: the Bay area, you never symbolized with cripping blood.

1803
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 4: You feel me. You know, it's just some niggas just

1804
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:13,720
Speaker 4: don't do it.

1805
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:15,640
Speaker 2: Just like you go to other states and you know,

1806
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:18,519
Speaker 2: niggas got they clicks in their hoods and whatever, but

1807
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:22,760
Speaker 2: they just don't symbolize with blue and red cripping. Now

1808
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 2: a lot of them do nowadays. That it did spread,

1809
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 2: and you got a lot of in between towns that

1810
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:34,560
Speaker 2: are now you know, we bloods, we crips, you know.

1811
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:37,800
Speaker 2: But it didn't naturally start that way. I could say

1812
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 2: for myself in the early nineties when I started touring.

1813
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 2: You know, you would go to certain spots and niggas

1814
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 2: didn't symbolize with cripping and blood. But you know, it's

1815
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 2: just like I said, influence from the from social media,

1816
01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:57,880
Speaker 2: and from movies and music. It's then spread, you know

1817
01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:00,840
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Not to discredit nobody from where they from.

1818
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:03,040
Speaker 2: You know, like I said, I'll tell a nigga all

1819
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 2: the time, it's hood niggas everywhere. So it don't matter

1820
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 2: what you symbolize or what color your rag is. It's

1821
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 2: just it's just niggas that pull up from that poverty

1822
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 2: shit from the from from the gate, stuck in the

1823
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 2: neighborhood with with not too many choices or opportunities, and

1824
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:25,280
Speaker 2: a lot of us result into doing you know, unnecessary

1825
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 2: or half in the climb.

1826
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 4: Out of that motherfucking bucket.

1827
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:31,720
Speaker 2: Man, you feel me, A lot of us don't make it,

1828
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:34,840
Speaker 2: you feel and that going for a lot of youngsters

1829
01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:37,400
Speaker 2: today too. You see a lot of niggas slipping and

1830
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:41,439
Speaker 2: losing their lives behind a gang of just unnecessary shit

1831
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:44,639
Speaker 2: that going on today. So just whatever you do, man,

1832
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:48,599
Speaker 2: be careful in your choices, whatever your choices are.

1833
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 4: You feel me, whether it's whether.

1834
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:53,880
Speaker 2: You claiming the red or blue or the rainbow, just

1835
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:55,479
Speaker 2: watch your choices, man.

1836
01:28:55,680 --> 01:29:00,200
Speaker 3: You feel me, well, you can tell you had to

1837
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 3: be on some ship though, Spice some of that ship

1838
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:03,680
Speaker 3: you was chicken back in the day. Like when that

1839
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 3: nigga hit the study, I gotta get it, gotta get it,

1840
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:08,479
Speaker 3: get it.

1841
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 4: You know.

1842
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:15,360
Speaker 1: It's it was more like it was the game out.

1843
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 7: It's the game.

1844
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:19,519
Speaker 1: The bay is is all about game.

1845
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:22,479
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. It's all about motherfucker knowing you.

1846
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 6: Know his surroundings, and you know it's it's just it

1847
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:29,560
Speaker 6: was it wasn't really no crimson blasts. It was just

1848
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 6: more like motherfuckers you know, you would have twenty niggas

1849
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:37,519
Speaker 6: on the street on one street with the same last

1850
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:41,479
Speaker 6: name Ship and they all related, you know what I'm saying.

1851
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:45,439
Speaker 6: And you know you have you had the Mombo's twenty third,

1852
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:51,520
Speaker 6: the twamps they call them murder Dubs. You have Brookfield,

1853
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 6: Natyates and Brookfield right across the street from eleven five,

1854
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:57,439
Speaker 6: which is the Brandy Park, which is where you know, uh.

1855
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:01,960
Speaker 4: Right like right by the stadium.

1856
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:02,680
Speaker 1: Uh.

1857
01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:06,720
Speaker 6: You got sixty nine Village where you had to when

1858
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 6: you want to go to the Raiders game, you had

1859
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:09,000
Speaker 6: to go through there.

1860
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:13,479
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1861
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:16,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's where you know the New Jack City movie,

1862
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:18,240
Speaker 6: and that's what it looked like trying to get through there.

1863
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:19,960
Speaker 1: You had to go through through that, through that kind

1864
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:21,160
Speaker 1: of ship to go through get.

1865
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:23,680
Speaker 6: To the Raiders game, passed the Varsitation and all of

1866
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:26,680
Speaker 6: that ship to the Raiders game, the Warriors game, or

1867
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:28,280
Speaker 6: the Age game. You had to go through that ship

1868
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:30,880
Speaker 6: to get there. If if you parked on the on

1869
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:34,599
Speaker 6: the other side of the stadium, you know what I'm saying.

1870
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 6: And so it really, you know, it really the Bay

1871
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:42,560
Speaker 6: got as far as Oakland got a long history of

1872
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:48,360
Speaker 6: of of drugs, you know, even how they you know,

1873
01:30:49,640 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 6: even back from when they used the cocaine and uh

1874
01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:59,800
Speaker 6: uh and back then when the when I guess you know,

1875
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:01,880
Speaker 6: stay when the mob in the in the in the

1876
01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:06,160
Speaker 6: in the the c i A. Or the FBI got

1877
01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:09,240
Speaker 6: together to destroy the Black Panther party by putting drugs

1878
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:12,639
Speaker 6: in the community. So you you got you gotta walk

1879
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:14,760
Speaker 6: through the through the through the sixty nine village. But

1880
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:18,240
Speaker 6: the train tracks was ship where they supposedly left the guns,

1881
01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:21,040
Speaker 6: allegedly left the guns in the in the in the dope,

1882
01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:23,960
Speaker 6: you know, for motherfuckers to do what they do, you know, uh,

1883
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:29,160
Speaker 6: just to turn everybody in the into the uh that

1884
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:32,280
Speaker 6: was in that area as far as Black panthers, strong

1885
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:39,439
Speaker 6: minded individual masculine brothers uh into into a drug addicts

1886
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:42,080
Speaker 6: or they gonna make We're gonna make them fight over

1887
01:31:42,120 --> 01:31:42,880
Speaker 6: the dope and the money.

1888
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:44,519
Speaker 7: It's gonna be one of the two. And then you know,

1889
01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:46,800
Speaker 7: and what happened to Huey Newton.

1890
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:50,240
Speaker 6: Dies with something has something to do with some drugs

1891
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:52,880
Speaker 6: or something, you know, some heroin or some ship.

1892
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:54,320
Speaker 1: You know. I'm hearing this as a little kid.

1893
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:57,000
Speaker 4: I heard Craig started up in the bank.

1894
01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:02,000
Speaker 6: A lot of shit was started in the Bay. The

1895
01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:04,120
Speaker 6: word player hated was invented in the Bay. You know

1896
01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:06,320
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. So, I mean there's a lot of

1897
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:09,240
Speaker 6: shit out there. You got pimps, pussy's players, fakes, gangsters,

1898
01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:11,800
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, bitch ass niggas, killers. You know,

1899
01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:15,479
Speaker 6: nobody claiming ship. And the only way you're gonna know

1900
01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:19,719
Speaker 6: who who who who anybody is is by the link

1901
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:22,519
Speaker 6: by the language they speak. If they say Cuddy, they

1902
01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:26,800
Speaker 6: from They from Vlayos. You know, we think they was

1903
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 6: from Layover. Like if if somebody said Cuddy, we'd be like,

1904
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:31,519
Speaker 6: oh you' from Layo. Or if your niggas said pattern

1905
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:33,040
Speaker 6: that he was from Oakland. You know what I'm saying,

1906
01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:36,880
Speaker 6: Certain words and a certain way a motherfucker talks. That's

1907
01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:39,200
Speaker 6: how you knew what part of the Bay he was from.

1908
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 6: You didn't know what part of he was, what part

1909
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:45,040
Speaker 6: of the Baby he's from, depending on what color he.

1910
01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:46,200
Speaker 1: Had on or nothing like that.

1911
01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:49,479
Speaker 6: You just knew where he was from by the way

1912
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:52,880
Speaker 6: that he was talking and the slang, the slanguage he

1913
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:54,040
Speaker 6: was that he used.

1914
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:54,760
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.

1915
01:32:54,960 --> 01:33:00,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's completely different from the way I'm talking to

1916
01:33:00,680 --> 01:33:02,920
Speaker 6: y'all and then it sounds like a whole other language.

1917
01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:04,439
Speaker 6: I'll be like, hey, man, go get that yapis so

1918
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:07,000
Speaker 6: we can mash out. Man, go get the yaffer in

1919
01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:08,800
Speaker 6: a yapis so we can so we can mash out.

1920
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:14,360
Speaker 6: You know, they'll understand exactly what I'm saying.

1921
01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:20,200
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Ship.

1922
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:23,200
Speaker 7: I'm actually coming out there to shoot a video pretty.

1923
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:25,040
Speaker 4: Soon to this song I did.

1924
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:26,320
Speaker 7: I just did called west Side.

1925
01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:26,519
Speaker 6: Man.

1926
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:27,880
Speaker 7: Hey, I need you to be in there. Man.

1927
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:29,640
Speaker 1: I need to get all I need to get all the.

1928
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:32,040
Speaker 6: Essays, all all the niggas, all the man I need

1929
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:34,200
Speaker 6: to get this ship cracking as far as you know,

1930
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:36,120
Speaker 6: I need some I need some low riders and ship.

1931
01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:40,600
Speaker 7: Because the song is called west Side. You know what

1932
01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:41,080
Speaker 7: I'm saying.

1933
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:47,680
Speaker 6: And you know, yeah, the nigga the ship is is.

1934
01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 6: I'm gonna send you the song and then you're gonna

1935
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:51,320
Speaker 6: un it. The ships dope as fuck. Its representing the

1936
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:55,160
Speaker 6: whole west Side. I said, you ain't gotta be Columbian

1937
01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:56,840
Speaker 6: to get a necktie. You know what I'm saying.

1938
01:33:56,840 --> 01:33:59,519
Speaker 7: It's the west Side. Shit is dope. You know what

1939
01:33:59,560 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 7: I'm saying.

1940
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:02,680
Speaker 4: Uh, it's the right. It's the Ryan ship or it's

1941
01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:03,360
Speaker 4: some other ship.

1942
01:34:04,840 --> 01:34:06,840
Speaker 6: This is our ship. This is my ship, Okay, for sure,

1943
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:10,640
Speaker 6: this for us. Man, we're doing this ship to and

1944
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:13,680
Speaker 6: represent it for real. Yeah, let's get it though. I'm

1945
01:34:13,680 --> 01:34:15,519
Speaker 6: gonna call you back when we get off air. Man,

1946
01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:17,920
Speaker 6: I appreciate you coming on, man, were about to shut.

1947
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:18,400
Speaker 4: It down now.

1948
01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:24,000
Speaker 7: Hell yeah, thanks for having me on y'all this motherfucking person.

1949
01:34:24,439 --> 01:34:26,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, ship you when next time you float through here,

1950
01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:28,880
Speaker 2: just let me know what ship I call you later on.

1951
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:29,680
Speaker 4: And she was good.

1952
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:32,880
Speaker 7: Hell yeah, yall. You know, man, your niggas stay safe

1953
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:34,679
Speaker 7: out there, and I'm out here in Vegas.

1954
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:38,920
Speaker 6: Basically we slide through here. Niggas slide through, yes, sir, yep,

1955
01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:45,639
Speaker 6: hell yeah. Well that shoot, that's one right there.

1956
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:45,880
Speaker 7: Man.

1957
01:34:46,120 --> 01:34:49,840
Speaker 3: I wanted to just before you go real quick. You

1958
01:34:49,960 --> 01:34:53,240
Speaker 3: got the low rider coach from the West Coast and

1959
01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:55,120
Speaker 3: you originally from the West Coast right.

1960
01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:58,200
Speaker 4: Born in Ohio? Are you from Ohio? Ohio? Okay?

1961
01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:02,000
Speaker 2: That's why he's so thorough, one of your compadres one

1962
01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:06,040
Speaker 2: way more because he hits this. This motherfucker always Cleveland.

1963
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:10,479
Speaker 2: That's Cleveland, net, Ohio, Ohio. Young guy with Drew carry

1964
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:14,400
Speaker 2: a lot That's why, bro, It'll it'll make you. It'll

1965
01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:17,160
Speaker 2: make you if you if you in Ohio. I spent

1966
01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:20,240
Speaker 2: all my life trying to get out that. That's all

1967
01:35:20,240 --> 01:35:22,840
Speaker 2: I still talk about. You like I had to get

1968
01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:25,840
Speaker 2: a fuck about it because I knew I would get stuck.

1969
01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:26,080
Speaker 7: Man.

1970
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:27,800
Speaker 3: It's like, how is the place you can really get

1971
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:30,280
Speaker 3: in a lot of trouble. Absolutely, you're getting a lot

1972
01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:32,160
Speaker 3: of trouble. And that's all I saw for myself. If

1973
01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:34,600
Speaker 3: I stayed up there, dog, I think for sure I

1974
01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:36,240
Speaker 3: would have wound up in the penitential.

1975
01:35:36,280 --> 01:35:39,599
Speaker 4: I say it every single day. Man, there just ain't

1976
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:40,799
Speaker 4: nothing else to do. It's hopeless.

1977
01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's just I gotta get up

1978
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:49,120
Speaker 2: out of here, Like fuck it. The first greyhound. Once

1979
01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:51,639
Speaker 2: you refers out, you'd be like, you know, like one

1980
01:35:51,640 --> 01:35:53,759
Speaker 2: of the niggas you see on one of them old movies,

1981
01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:56,200
Speaker 2: and they'd be like, man, I'm tired of this place.

1982
01:35:56,360 --> 01:35:59,040
Speaker 2: I'm stuck here. I gotta get out. You got to

1983
01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:01,479
Speaker 2: hit that greyhound and get the fuck up out of there.

1984
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:04,760
Speaker 5: The biggest misconception is people feel like Ohio is nothing

1985
01:36:04,840 --> 01:36:07,160
Speaker 5: but corn fields and all that shit. Like every time

1986
01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:09,920
Speaker 5: you know, you talk to somebody like, oh, you're from hood,

1987
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:13,280
Speaker 5: like a motherfucker. Ohio is one of the most treacherous places.

1988
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 4: You can I've been there a gang of times.

1989
01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:17,360
Speaker 5: I don't realize I mean for the last few years.

1990
01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:19,880
Speaker 5: I mean it was a drug over those cup state

1991
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:21,639
Speaker 5: capital of the United States.

1992
01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:23,840
Speaker 4: You could lose your life up there. And it's just

1993
01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:24,559
Speaker 4: different people.

1994
01:36:24,640 --> 01:36:24,800
Speaker 6: Man.

1995
01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:27,920
Speaker 3: It's like you know the chick that we was looking

1996
01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:31,560
Speaker 3: at the big topic chick, right, that's normal female like

1997
01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:34,160
Speaker 3: they've been around like that forever. You see how she

1998
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:37,400
Speaker 3: had her look strapped right there on the side. They

1999
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:40,160
Speaker 3: walked raising blades in their mouth, dog like you can

2000
01:36:40,240 --> 01:36:41,840
Speaker 3: get you can catch the bad one up.

2001
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:47,120
Speaker 5: There real easy, listen. I mean I lost some female friends.

2002
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:49,160
Speaker 5: That was hard in the game. You know what I'm saying.

2003
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:53,200
Speaker 5: The street up there, you know some girls they they

2004
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:53,840
Speaker 5: what are you?

2005
01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:57,160
Speaker 4: What are you? What are you? What are you? Attribute

2006
01:36:57,240 --> 01:36:59,400
Speaker 4: that to man? Property?

2007
01:36:59,520 --> 01:36:59,640
Speaker 1: Man?

2008
01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:03,000
Speaker 3: Even I got my vision too. God, you know what

2009
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:08,800
Speaker 3: I think it is, man, I think in Cleveland there

2010
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:11,880
Speaker 3: are no options up there right now. There are, man,

2011
01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:14,160
Speaker 3: but they're very few. So when somebody gets something, they

2012
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:16,040
Speaker 3: used to tend to hold on to it. Like if

2013
01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:18,240
Speaker 3: somebody get a job she eat somewhere, one of the

2014
01:37:18,280 --> 01:37:21,200
Speaker 3: good jobs. They tend to hold on to that motherfucker.

2015
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:23,479
Speaker 3: They're not gonna miss no work. They gonna be there,

2016
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:26,200
Speaker 3: right and they usually like, ohow it's cheap. You can

2017
01:37:26,240 --> 01:37:28,280
Speaker 3: go get you a nice crib up there dog for

2018
01:37:28,360 --> 01:37:31,439
Speaker 3: the low if you got something going on. But other

2019
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:34,000
Speaker 3: than that, dog, it's just almost like a fish bowl,

2020
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:34,519
Speaker 3: my nigga.

2021
01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:37,920
Speaker 4: It's like, just imagine being stuck in his room. That's

2022
01:37:37,960 --> 01:37:39,280
Speaker 4: how you feel, dog a little bit.

2023
01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:41,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's like, you know, when I was

2024
01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:44,360
Speaker 5: growing up, the job to have in that area, you know,

2025
01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:46,720
Speaker 5: it was it was known you work at State Farm.

2026
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:48,400
Speaker 5: You know my mom worked for State Farm. You know

2027
01:37:48,439 --> 01:37:52,720
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. Dow Chemical, Kais are aluminum, your doubt, fiberglass,

2028
01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:54,480
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Owens Corning, fiberglass.

2029
01:37:54,760 --> 01:37:55,599
Speaker 4: Those are the jobs.

2030
01:37:55,640 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 5: If you couldn't get a job in one of them places,

2031
01:37:57,360 --> 01:37:59,439
Speaker 5: it's like he said, he pretty much asked out. And

2032
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:01,640
Speaker 5: if you have the job of those other places like that,

2033
01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:04,200
Speaker 5: that was kind of the standard. So you know what

2034
01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:06,679
Speaker 5: I mean, like for people to play ball and whatnot,

2035
01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:10,599
Speaker 5: Like if once you graduated, if you didn't go to school.

2036
01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:12,880
Speaker 5: If you was successful, then you was working in one

2037
01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:13,559
Speaker 5: of them places.

2038
01:38:14,240 --> 01:38:16,880
Speaker 4: That was the goal. That was the goal because my

2039
01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:19,080
Speaker 4: pops he used to work.

2040
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:24,719
Speaker 2: For So wait before you answer that. So playing sports

2041
01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:26,840
Speaker 2: you didn't feel like you could. Yeah, that was my

2042
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:29,080
Speaker 2: way out though, right, that was my way out.

2043
01:38:29,160 --> 01:38:29,760
Speaker 4: I just knew.

2044
01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:33,240
Speaker 3: See, when you don't know no better, Dog, I thought

2045
01:38:33,320 --> 01:38:35,439
Speaker 3: Cleveland was the greatest place in the world until I

2046
01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:39,160
Speaker 3: start seeing other places. Right, because my family, the one

2047
01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:41,439
Speaker 3: thing that we was good for. You know, back then,

2048
01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:44,160
Speaker 3: you wouldn't buy no house for the kids, no plane tickets. Right,

2049
01:38:44,240 --> 01:38:47,040
Speaker 3: you was getting in the car and driving. If either

2050
01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:50,280
Speaker 3: that or we would go somewhere. Right, So we would

2051
01:38:50,320 --> 01:38:53,479
Speaker 3: get in the car, and my stepdad was good for that.

2052
01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:54,960
Speaker 3: He would take us out to see the point. But

2053
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:57,320
Speaker 3: then one time I thought he was going to see

2054
01:38:57,320 --> 01:38:57,639
Speaker 3: the point.

2055
01:38:57,680 --> 01:38:58,040
Speaker 1: I just know.

2056
01:38:58,120 --> 01:39:00,400
Speaker 3: We left the house hill early in the morning and

2057
01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:03,280
Speaker 3: I woke up, Dog, and we was like in Virginia somewhere.

2058
01:39:03,360 --> 01:39:05,760
Speaker 3: We was on our way down in Mississippi. We didn't

2059
01:39:05,800 --> 01:39:08,120
Speaker 3: leave the state. We was going down to Mississippi. So

2060
01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:12,160
Speaker 3: just seeing all the mother toimes, I used to always wonder, like, man,

2061
01:39:12,200 --> 01:39:14,000
Speaker 3: I wonder what's going on? I just knew it was

2062
01:39:14,080 --> 01:39:16,720
Speaker 3: something bigger for me. Dog, not seeing I was one

2063
01:39:16,720 --> 01:39:18,879
Speaker 3: of them niggas that just knew I'm gonna be a celebrity.

2064
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:21,280
Speaker 3: I'm like, I just knew I wanted to do something

2065
01:39:21,320 --> 01:39:23,439
Speaker 3: different with myself. Dog, I didn't want to get stuck

2066
01:39:23,520 --> 01:39:24,479
Speaker 3: in what was going on?

2067
01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:25,720
Speaker 4: Then what was going on?

2068
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:29,280
Speaker 3: Because it really started getting the real maney man, when

2069
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:34,040
Speaker 3: the crack shit came. When the cracks start hitting, I

2070
01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:38,000
Speaker 3: saw the whole dynamic of my neighborhood change because it

2071
01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:40,280
Speaker 3: went from being aware. We you know, we was the hood,

2072
01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:43,720
Speaker 3: but we had nice yards, people kept, they grass cut,

2073
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:47,360
Speaker 3: everybody got along. But then you start seeing this house

2074
01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:49,360
Speaker 3: that used to be Miss Grant's house turned to the

2075
01:39:49,439 --> 01:39:53,160
Speaker 3: spot because she old and her grandkids running that motherfucker.

2076
01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:55,120
Speaker 3: They don't turn that to the trap house, you know

2077
01:39:55,160 --> 01:39:57,320
Speaker 3: what I mean. There's people coming out there. And then

2078
01:39:57,360 --> 01:40:00,400
Speaker 3: you see the little homie. The homieess ain't nothing before

2079
01:40:00,479 --> 01:40:02,640
Speaker 3: foot tall. He driving a deuce and quarter down the

2080
01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:04,800
Speaker 3: street and got a pocket full of money like this,

2081
01:40:06,160 --> 01:40:08,280
Speaker 3: And it started getting crazy because of that same little

2082
01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:09,479
Speaker 3: homie now pulling a pistol.

2083
01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:10,599
Speaker 4: He known to shoot niggas.

2084
01:40:10,880 --> 01:40:12,280
Speaker 3: You feel what I'm saying, it's like you see the

2085
01:40:12,360 --> 01:40:15,400
Speaker 3: dudes that was your classmates just turning the savages, you

2086
01:40:15,439 --> 01:40:15,840
Speaker 3: know what I mean?

2087
01:40:16,520 --> 01:40:17,479
Speaker 4: It was real different.

2088
01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:20,160
Speaker 5: Man, when I seen I seen one of one of

2089
01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:23,479
Speaker 5: the homies I grew up with. He killed three people

2090
01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:27,559
Speaker 5: for two hundred and fifty dollars. I remember the one homie.

2091
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:29,439
Speaker 5: I ain't gonna say his name, but I remember one

2092
01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:33,080
Speaker 5: time he smoked one of the west sticks and he

2093
01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:35,800
Speaker 5: got the other homies duce some quarter and gets rolled

2094
01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:38,320
Speaker 5: up on the sidewalk and roll just bringing over a

2095
01:40:38,360 --> 01:40:41,040
Speaker 5: bunch of people. Dog Like, I saw crazy stuff. Man,

2096
01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:44,360
Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure I was traumatized living in Cleveland. I

2097
01:40:44,479 --> 01:40:47,360
Speaker 5: never saw I saw people shot in Cleveland back point blank.

2098
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:50,120
Speaker 5: Like niggas walk up on somebody to pop and just

2099
01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:52,559
Speaker 5: keep on waring about their business. Didn't give a fucked dog.

2100
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:55,640
Speaker 4: We had, man so many he's get stabbed that they,

2101
01:40:55,880 --> 01:40:58,320
Speaker 4: you know, just because it was a property. Dog like

2102
01:40:59,360 --> 01:40:59,720
Speaker 4: that's all.

2103
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:02,080
Speaker 3: Learned how to fight, and I became pretty good with

2104
01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:04,560
Speaker 3: my hands because living in Cleveland you had to know

2105
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:07,400
Speaker 3: how to fight. I remember I was coming home from

2106
01:41:07,439 --> 01:41:09,880
Speaker 3: school one day and this one dude chased me to

2107
01:41:09,960 --> 01:41:12,760
Speaker 3: my house. Big old dude man. And my mom's had

2108
01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:14,960
Speaker 3: that back screen door locked. And you know what, Mom's

2109
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:17,760
Speaker 3: be having that phone always talking the same home girl.

2110
01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:20,200
Speaker 3: Mom's on the phone, like she looked back there and

2111
01:41:20,240 --> 01:41:23,080
Speaker 3: said she see me runt the driveway. Un nigga, who

2112
01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:23,760
Speaker 3: you're running from?

2113
01:41:24,680 --> 01:41:25,000
Speaker 4: You see that?

2114
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:29,559
Speaker 3: Said you better go back off their handlet. I went

2115
01:41:29,640 --> 01:41:32,000
Speaker 3: out there, handlet. Dog I ain't had no problem since then.

2116
01:41:32,760 --> 01:41:35,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, you couldn't be no runner, There couldn't be no

2117
01:41:35,160 --> 01:41:37,360
Speaker 4: niggas running to the house and stuff like that came

2118
01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:38,439
Speaker 4: from them.

2119
01:41:39,080 --> 01:41:44,240
Speaker 2: We came from them, you know, hard working down South Mississippi.

2120
01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:48,120
Speaker 2: Ass running who you're running from, nigga, you better fight

2121
01:41:48,240 --> 01:41:48,920
Speaker 2: the motherfucker.

2122
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:52,320
Speaker 3: My mama told me, she said, don't never be scared

2123
01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:54,640
Speaker 3: of no man. He a man a nigga, just like

2124
01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:56,960
Speaker 3: you you butter, you know what I'm saying. And then

2125
01:41:57,040 --> 01:42:00,280
Speaker 3: my uncles they really because you know they was penitentiary dudes,

2126
01:42:00,280 --> 01:42:01,800
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, They really taught me how

2127
01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:03,080
Speaker 3: to you know, throw them things.

2128
01:42:03,479 --> 01:42:05,920
Speaker 6: So from then on, dog I just wasn't scared of nobody.

2129
01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:08,400
Speaker 6: Dog I was like, whatever we go scrap, we go scrap.

2130
01:42:09,120 --> 01:42:13,800
Speaker 6: That's my family. They migrated from Birmingham, Alabama was going on.

2131
01:42:13,920 --> 01:42:16,559
Speaker 6: So that's how we ended up in Ohio. Yeah, that's

2132
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:18,680
Speaker 6: how everybody, you know how it is from the South Dog.

2133
01:42:18,760 --> 01:42:20,960
Speaker 6: Everybody from Ohio is either the South of New Jersey.

2134
01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:22,840
Speaker 6: I don't know why what it was, man, but the

2135
01:42:22,880 --> 01:42:24,599
Speaker 6: whole bunch of people moved New Jersey.

2136
01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:27,799
Speaker 4: Said Little said, we getting to buy the New Jersey

2137
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:31,559
Speaker 4: going to Cleveland. I know if somebody coming to class playing, So.

2138
01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:37,040
Speaker 2: When did you feel like, nigga, I gotta play sports

2139
01:42:37,080 --> 01:42:37,920
Speaker 2: to get up out of here.

2140
01:42:38,040 --> 01:42:41,599
Speaker 3: Well, you know what, dude, I went to Glenfield High

2141
01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:43,720
Speaker 3: School at first Dog and it was a collision there.

2142
01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:46,759
Speaker 3: He coached their name Jim Yeah Tar Blood and Jim Hobbard,

2143
01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:50,200
Speaker 3: James Hubbard. He saw me when I was in eighth grade.

2144
01:42:50,240 --> 01:42:52,839
Speaker 3: I was up by Glenfield when the stadium was outside.

2145
01:42:52,840 --> 01:42:55,360
Speaker 3: I was up there, messed around playing some football. He said, son,

2146
01:42:55,400 --> 01:42:58,400
Speaker 3: what grades you in? How I missed you? I'm in

2147
01:42:58,520 --> 01:43:00,519
Speaker 3: eighth grade. You go to Thomas Jeff, He said, I come,

2148
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:02,840
Speaker 3: you didn't play footballs at that time. The ninth grade

2149
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:05,880
Speaker 3: was in the junior highspital. He said, why you didn't

2150
01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:09,040
Speaker 3: play football? And he the first one I started getting

2151
01:43:09,160 --> 01:43:12,960
Speaker 3: recruited messing with him, and it became real thing because

2152
01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:15,559
Speaker 3: I would be thinking, I ain't getting on scholarship nowhere, dog,

2153
01:43:15,640 --> 01:43:18,479
Speaker 3: But then I saw people start getting scholarships in front

2154
01:43:18,520 --> 01:43:20,640
Speaker 3: of me, and so he was always he planned that

2155
01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:23,439
Speaker 3: seed in my head, even though I couldn't quite get

2156
01:43:23,479 --> 01:43:26,040
Speaker 3: at that time. By the time it really resonated, it

2157
01:43:26,160 --> 01:43:28,040
Speaker 3: was kind of too late, as my grades is real

2158
01:43:28,120 --> 01:43:30,840
Speaker 3: messed up, right, So I wound up getting a bunch

2159
01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:33,840
Speaker 3: of junior colleges around the country trying to recruit me. Yep,

2160
01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:37,160
Speaker 3: And so I wound up coming out here to California.

2161
01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:39,120
Speaker 3: Was either there, I think I said this last episode.

2162
01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:42,519
Speaker 3: It was either there a Coffeeville College in Kansas, and

2163
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:44,280
Speaker 3: I said, I'm going to California.

2164
01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:46,439
Speaker 4: It just fucked your life up there?

2165
01:43:46,600 --> 01:43:51,960
Speaker 2: Should your ass should have been in Coffeeville, right, what's

2166
01:43:52,040 --> 01:43:53,479
Speaker 2: some overalls old?

2167
01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:56,160
Speaker 4: And you know what, man?

2168
01:43:56,520 --> 01:43:59,400
Speaker 3: I say this man, California, Man, is the place where

2169
01:43:59,439 --> 01:44:03,160
Speaker 3: I really became came a man. Though I can't work

2170
01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:05,639
Speaker 3: you in some shit, yeah you know I can't, your dog,

2171
01:44:05,720 --> 01:44:09,680
Speaker 3: And I learned how to. I learned survival skills in Cleveland, right,

2172
01:44:09,760 --> 01:44:12,120
Speaker 3: But I really learned survival skills all because I didn't

2173
01:44:12,120 --> 01:44:13,840
Speaker 3: have no parents. There was just gonna send me money,

2174
01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:17,519
Speaker 3: like you know how your son got youself. Yeah, I

2175
01:44:17,600 --> 01:44:20,280
Speaker 3: didn't have nobody. I call hey, send me cash app

2176
01:44:20,360 --> 01:44:22,800
Speaker 3: me five hundred dollars. Wasn't no cash app. If you

2177
01:44:22,880 --> 01:44:25,160
Speaker 3: got some money, it was coming either about Western Union

2178
01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:27,400
Speaker 3: or the mail. And I just started telling moms a

2179
01:44:27,439 --> 01:44:29,280
Speaker 3: pop sending me in the mail because y'all paying ten

2180
01:44:29,320 --> 01:44:30,960
Speaker 3: dollars to send me twenty dollars.

2181
01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:33,200
Speaker 2: I'd rather had that other team give you that motherfucking

2182
01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:36,280
Speaker 2: post office post office money order in the mail.

2183
01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:38,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the come in there, man. And that's how

2184
01:44:38,280 --> 01:44:40,840
Speaker 3: it was because man, I remember out here a dog.

2185
01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:42,840
Speaker 3: It was rough at first. Man, I was eating damn

2186
01:44:43,240 --> 01:44:45,080
Speaker 3: top rummin every night, Damn thear dog.

2187
01:44:45,400 --> 01:44:47,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, when you were in the spot about that at all,

2188
01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:50,519
Speaker 5: It's one thousand percent accurate though, because like when you said,

2189
01:44:51,479 --> 01:44:54,479
Speaker 5: Ohio and Cleveland made you a thousand percent, that's what

2190
01:44:54,640 --> 01:44:56,560
Speaker 5: made me the person that I am. But when I

2191
01:44:56,640 --> 01:44:59,000
Speaker 5: got out of there, I learned some different shit that

2192
01:44:59,080 --> 01:45:02,160
Speaker 5: I didn't learn in theighborhood. So growing up in the neighborhood,

2193
01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:03,880
Speaker 5: just like you said, when hommy come up, roll up,

2194
01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:06,040
Speaker 5: on you with a with a wad of money. Nobody

2195
01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:08,920
Speaker 5: didn't give no fuck about no credit when you asked

2196
01:45:08,960 --> 01:45:11,160
Speaker 5: me about you know what I mean, like all about credit.

2197
01:45:11,240 --> 01:45:13,680
Speaker 5: This is man, you don't need credit me. Yeah, you

2198
01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:16,240
Speaker 5: didn't learn nothing. You know, I got this money, whatever

2199
01:45:16,280 --> 01:45:19,240
Speaker 5: the fuck I want. Cash is king, no bro, that

2200
01:45:19,320 --> 01:45:20,320
Speaker 5: ain't that, ain't it at all.

2201
01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:24,160
Speaker 3: I also learned that cash was real evil to They

2202
01:45:24,200 --> 01:45:26,400
Speaker 3: had the ability to be evil because when I tell you, man,

2203
01:45:26,479 --> 01:45:30,400
Speaker 3: in my neighborhood, it was so many murders. And I'm

2204
01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:33,240
Speaker 3: talking about dudes that was my classmates just started murdering

2205
01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:35,759
Speaker 3: each other behind that cocaine dog. I'm talking about niggas

2206
01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:38,240
Speaker 3: because they thought of niggas cheated them, or they thought

2207
01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:40,880
Speaker 3: somebody got shorted and they just got bad. Or the

2208
01:45:40,960 --> 01:45:43,720
Speaker 3: homie fronted somebody and they didn't come back and they

2209
01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:45,559
Speaker 3: just said an example, and just you know, it would

2210
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:46,000
Speaker 3: be crazy.

2211
01:45:46,120 --> 01:45:46,280
Speaker 1: Dog.

2212
01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:48,599
Speaker 3: You'd be walking down the street, dog in here, see

2213
01:45:48,720 --> 01:45:50,840
Speaker 3: police all because Cleveland got a bunch of.

2214
01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:53,200
Speaker 4: A band.

2215
01:45:53,320 --> 01:45:55,200
Speaker 3: It used to have a bunch of empty ass locks

2216
01:45:55,240 --> 01:45:57,960
Speaker 3: where the grass just don't grow up. Yeah, and beer

2217
01:45:58,040 --> 01:46:00,360
Speaker 3: bottles all up in their dog. You know you by

2218
01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:02,880
Speaker 3: their dog. You see the police decause one of the

2219
01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:05,439
Speaker 3: homelies deads you know what I mean, just dead up

2220
01:46:05,479 --> 01:46:07,519
Speaker 3: in there. You see somebody dead in their car. Dog,

2221
01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:13,360
Speaker 3: ain't nobody took nothing. They just gone Yeah, it was crazy, dog.

2222
01:46:13,439 --> 01:46:15,240
Speaker 3: And they used to be get real is I saw.

2223
01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:18,679
Speaker 3: I think that's why I have so much respect for women, dog,

2224
01:46:18,760 --> 01:46:21,600
Speaker 3: because I saw a lot of girls get raped and

2225
01:46:22,040 --> 01:46:24,040
Speaker 3: wouldn't and they'd be at school the next day and

2226
01:46:24,120 --> 01:46:26,840
Speaker 3: nobody would say nothing. But this one girl got raped.

2227
01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:29,120
Speaker 3: We was on the way home and these cats, I

2228
01:46:29,120 --> 01:46:33,120
Speaker 3: ain't gonna say their names, but they raped this girl right.

2229
01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:36,320
Speaker 3: And I remember the next day her pops came up

2230
01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:39,040
Speaker 3: to the school. I was at the bust that waiting.

2231
01:46:39,040 --> 01:46:41,280
Speaker 3: As soon as them niggas came, he started busting at him.

2232
01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:44,519
Speaker 3: You start popping at him, you know what I'm saying,

2233
01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:45,240
Speaker 3: behind his daughter.

2234
01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:45,519
Speaker 1: Dog.

2235
01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:47,800
Speaker 3: So I saw a lot of real many shit dog

2236
01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:51,519
Speaker 3: like this real berserk shit man. They just really exchanged

2237
01:46:51,520 --> 01:46:53,439
Speaker 3: your mind set up out a lot of stuff. And

2238
01:46:53,560 --> 01:46:55,880
Speaker 3: one thing Cleveland will teach you is how how to

2239
01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:59,400
Speaker 3: have respect for the next man. Because I saw so

2240
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:02,080
Speaker 3: many different things. I saw little niggas get up and

2241
01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:04,080
Speaker 3: big niggas ask them what nots, you know what I mean.

2242
01:47:04,960 --> 01:47:07,360
Speaker 3: And so I always learned, no matter how a nigga look,

2243
01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:09,800
Speaker 3: to respect. You know what I'm saying, give everybody that

2244
01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:12,200
Speaker 3: respect dog, because you don't know what a man cap

2245
01:47:12,320 --> 01:47:13,400
Speaker 3: beloved exactly.

2246
01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:16,040
Speaker 5: Color barrier shit too that they get shit gets throws

2247
01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:19,080
Speaker 5: out the window too, like the black white thing because

2248
01:47:19,160 --> 01:47:21,320
Speaker 5: you know, you might go to school and and you know,

2249
01:47:21,640 --> 01:47:23,800
Speaker 5: be the misconception like you can't get beat by no

2250
01:47:23,880 --> 01:47:24,720
Speaker 5: white boy, no fight.

2251
01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:27,360
Speaker 4: No this is man. Listen, Oh dude, they scrapping out.

2252
01:47:27,560 --> 01:47:30,360
Speaker 5: Some of them baddest, baddest motherfuckers I ever done seen

2253
01:47:30,880 --> 01:47:32,800
Speaker 5: and knew was white boys up there. And when I

2254
01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:34,919
Speaker 5: tell you put it down, I mean there was prejudice

2255
01:47:34,920 --> 01:47:38,000
Speaker 5: of motherfucker. You're like, what's up, nigga, I don't fuck

2256
01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:38,240
Speaker 5: with you.

2257
01:47:38,320 --> 01:47:40,560
Speaker 3: Don't fuck with me, and be ready to scrap for

2258
01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:42,760
Speaker 3: he scrap man, I don't fuck like three or four

2259
01:47:42,840 --> 01:47:44,640
Speaker 3: white boys at the same time they jump out them

2260
01:47:44,680 --> 01:47:46,360
Speaker 3: trucks on your ass. You gotta be ready to throw

2261
01:47:46,400 --> 01:47:48,800
Speaker 3: them things may be known sometimes.

2262
01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:52,200
Speaker 5: They had guns and be serious about that shit. And

2263
01:47:52,560 --> 01:47:55,640
Speaker 5: but the part about that that I'm I'm anna I

2264
01:47:55,680 --> 01:47:57,840
Speaker 5: can respect that more because I know what they expect

2265
01:47:57,920 --> 01:47:59,680
Speaker 5: at it. That's what I'm saying here. I'm saying like

2266
01:48:00,200 --> 01:48:01,679
Speaker 5: I don't have to wonder. You know what I'm saying.

2267
01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:04,080
Speaker 5: If you like me or some phony shit like, keep it,

2268
01:48:04,320 --> 01:48:05,880
Speaker 5: keep it a buck with me. So I know, I

2269
01:48:06,040 --> 01:48:10,320
Speaker 5: know when I see you, it's finna go down, go down.

2270
01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:12,280
Speaker 5: Ain't no ain't no surprise.

2271
01:48:13,360 --> 01:48:15,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, real quick, I was gonna ask you about them cars.

2272
01:48:15,680 --> 01:48:15,840
Speaker 1: Man.

2273
01:48:16,360 --> 01:48:19,040
Speaker 3: How did the dude from Ohio man become one of

2274
01:48:19,120 --> 01:48:22,840
Speaker 3: the biggest fielders of specialty vehicles in the country.

2275
01:48:22,920 --> 01:48:23,120
Speaker 7: Man.

2276
01:48:23,439 --> 01:48:28,200
Speaker 5: So I'm back when I was growing up, I played ball,

2277
01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:30,800
Speaker 5: like you know, like he was talking about. My idol

2278
01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:33,280
Speaker 5: was Michael Jordan. Like everybody else, he had an eighty

2279
01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:34,759
Speaker 5: seven Corvette Black.

2280
01:48:34,560 --> 01:48:35,400
Speaker 4: With the T tops.

2281
01:48:35,680 --> 01:48:37,840
Speaker 5: I didn't think nothing else could touch that motherfucker.

2282
01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:38,679
Speaker 4: So you know what I'm saying.

2283
01:48:38,680 --> 01:48:41,120
Speaker 5: Everybody was like, when you sign your first contract, what's

2284
01:48:41,160 --> 01:48:42,680
Speaker 5: the first car you're gonna get. I'm like, shit, I

2285
01:48:42,720 --> 01:48:47,800
Speaker 5: wanted eighty seven Corvette with the T tops until I.

2286
01:48:47,840 --> 01:48:48,880
Speaker 4: Seen boys in the hood.

2287
01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:52,240
Speaker 5: When I seen boys in the hood, man, and I

2288
01:48:52,320 --> 01:48:56,240
Speaker 5: seen I seen that gold the cars called touch of Gold.

2289
01:48:56,320 --> 01:48:59,160
Speaker 5: When I seen that car the first man, it was

2290
01:48:59,200 --> 01:49:01,560
Speaker 5: a rap. It was a from there to see a

2291
01:49:01,640 --> 01:49:05,360
Speaker 5: car look like that. I never would think that a

2292
01:49:05,439 --> 01:49:07,040
Speaker 5: car could be that old. I remember I was telling

2293
01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:09,559
Speaker 5: my dad, you know what I'm saying, Like, I said, Dad,

2294
01:49:09,640 --> 01:49:10,840
Speaker 5: now I know a car I want. You know what

2295
01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:12,120
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like what you want?

2296
01:49:12,400 --> 01:49:12,560
Speaker 1: You know?

2297
01:49:13,560 --> 01:49:15,920
Speaker 5: And I showed him the car. He started laughing. He said, man,

2298
01:49:16,080 --> 01:49:18,160
Speaker 5: he said, you realize that's an old empolo. He said,

2299
01:49:18,560 --> 01:49:20,160
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Like that car at that

2300
01:49:20,280 --> 01:49:21,679
Speaker 5: time was twenty some years old.

2301
01:49:21,880 --> 01:49:22,479
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

2302
01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:25,120
Speaker 5: And you know there wasn't no computer. There wasn't no

2303
01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:27,519
Speaker 5: computer and shit like that. So I start They used

2304
01:49:27,520 --> 01:49:30,280
Speaker 5: to throw them advertised. Remember they still a little advertiser

2305
01:49:30,760 --> 01:49:33,240
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, and you go to see the marketplace shit.

2306
01:49:33,880 --> 01:49:35,519
Speaker 5: So man, I'll get on my bike and I would

2307
01:49:35,560 --> 01:49:38,479
Speaker 5: ride around. I would go to go to people's house,

2308
01:49:38,479 --> 01:49:40,680
Speaker 5: would be waded across town. I'd ride my bike up there.

2309
01:49:40,760 --> 01:49:42,560
Speaker 5: Didn't have a pot to piss and no money, but

2310
01:49:42,640 --> 01:49:44,680
Speaker 5: I just wanted to be around that car. So that's

2311
01:49:44,720 --> 01:49:46,320
Speaker 5: how I start self taught. You know what I'm saying,

2312
01:49:46,320 --> 01:49:49,120
Speaker 5: I start teaching myself about the car. Because one thing

2313
01:49:49,200 --> 01:49:53,000
Speaker 5: that still will tell you again too, is that jobs.

2314
01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:54,720
Speaker 5: You're not just getting a certain kind of jobs. So

2315
01:49:54,840 --> 01:49:56,439
Speaker 5: so for a black kid to go into a place

2316
01:49:56,479 --> 01:49:57,920
Speaker 5: and say, hey, I want to work on cars, it's

2317
01:49:58,000 --> 01:50:00,280
Speaker 5: not happening, you know what I'm saying, Like, they're not

2318
01:50:00,400 --> 01:50:02,400
Speaker 5: bringing you in to work on cars. They might bring

2319
01:50:02,439 --> 01:50:04,519
Speaker 5: you in to clean up around them other place, but

2320
01:50:04,680 --> 01:50:06,640
Speaker 5: you're not coming in here to learn no trade like that.

2321
01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:08,240
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, to.

2322
01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:12,680
Speaker 5: Build no cars. So I self taught myself. And you know,

2323
01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:14,439
Speaker 5: there used to be junk yards and shit, we get

2324
01:50:14,520 --> 01:50:16,920
Speaker 5: up my homeboy, Sean, we get up in the morning

2325
01:50:17,360 --> 01:50:19,920
Speaker 5: and once we could drive, and shit, we would driving

2326
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:22,120
Speaker 5: go out to these places and I'll go in junk

2327
01:50:22,200 --> 01:50:24,920
Speaker 5: yards and we sometimes you know, it'd be different from

2328
01:50:24,960 --> 01:50:27,840
Speaker 5: the seasons. The grass would grow up high depending on

2329
01:50:27,880 --> 01:50:30,639
Speaker 5: what season was that. So we'd be jumping from roof

2330
01:50:30,720 --> 01:50:32,640
Speaker 5: to roof of these cars. You know what I'm saying, Like,

2331
01:50:33,120 --> 01:50:35,720
Speaker 5: there's a deuce right here, there's this right here. And

2332
01:50:36,640 --> 01:50:38,240
Speaker 5: I played ball at a high level, you know what

2333
01:50:38,240 --> 01:50:41,000
Speaker 5: I'm saying. I was invited anybody knows, you know, basketball,

2334
01:50:41,080 --> 01:50:44,280
Speaker 5: basketball is my shit. I was invited to five star

2335
01:50:44,400 --> 01:50:48,000
Speaker 5: basketball camp as a ninth grader, so that's an invitational camp.

2336
01:50:48,240 --> 01:50:50,880
Speaker 5: When I went there, I'm a freshman. The number one

2337
01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:53,160
Speaker 5: player at the camp was Stephan Marburry. He was a senior,

2338
01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:56,040
Speaker 5: so there was that type of camp. The number one

2339
01:50:56,080 --> 01:50:58,200
Speaker 5: player in my class was lamar Odaman. There was only

2340
01:50:58,280 --> 01:50:59,760
Speaker 5: four of us that was ninth graders. You know what

2341
01:50:59,760 --> 01:51:02,160
Speaker 5: I'm saying there At the time, when I was young,

2342
01:51:02,720 --> 01:51:05,519
Speaker 5: you know, I never never believed that some of the

2343
01:51:05,560 --> 01:51:08,160
Speaker 5: stuff that my dad would say sometimes. But it's funny,

2344
01:51:08,200 --> 01:51:10,400
Speaker 5: as you get older, every single thing that he said

2345
01:51:10,520 --> 01:51:11,160
Speaker 5: came to fruition.

2346
01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:11,880
Speaker 7: You know.

2347
01:51:11,960 --> 01:51:13,880
Speaker 5: He used to tell me, like, you're ahead of everybody now,

2348
01:51:14,000 --> 01:51:15,479
Speaker 5: but you know what I'm saying, people gonna catch up

2349
01:51:15,520 --> 01:51:20,200
Speaker 5: with you. And I never believed that. But that's when

2350
01:51:20,200 --> 01:51:22,760
Speaker 5: I start falling in love with those cars. That's why

2351
01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:26,240
Speaker 5: I bring my dad up in this situation. I fell

2352
01:51:26,280 --> 01:51:28,280
Speaker 5: in love with those cars, and I kept wanting to

2353
01:51:28,280 --> 01:51:30,080
Speaker 5: be around the cars, looking for the cars. My dad

2354
01:51:30,160 --> 01:51:31,559
Speaker 5: used to tell me them cars ain't never gonna make

2355
01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:33,080
Speaker 5: you no money. You know what I'm saying that you

2356
01:51:33,120 --> 01:51:35,120
Speaker 5: think you going to the next level to play them?

2357
01:51:35,200 --> 01:51:36,720
Speaker 5: Cars ain't making you no money, man. It Ain't it

2358
01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:39,559
Speaker 5: crazy how the one person the people in your life

2359
01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:42,160
Speaker 5: that are the most discouraged and are using your pearents

2360
01:51:42,680 --> 01:51:45,240
Speaker 5: because they trying to let the fear, the fears that.

2361
01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:46,519
Speaker 4: They have kind of guide you.

2362
01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:49,280
Speaker 3: Because my mom begged me not to come to California,

2363
01:51:49,280 --> 01:51:51,200
Speaker 3: and I tell it, don't you realize, Mama, fight and

2364
01:51:51,280 --> 01:51:53,040
Speaker 3: come out here. You wouldn't have your grand kids now,

2365
01:51:54,240 --> 01:51:55,120
Speaker 3: not the ones you got.

2366
01:51:55,280 --> 01:51:55,840
Speaker 4: Yeah a lot.

2367
01:51:56,080 --> 01:51:59,200
Speaker 5: Man, Listen, it's just like you said. I mean, you know,

2368
01:51:59,400 --> 01:52:00,960
Speaker 5: it wasn't that I I was always doing the most

2369
01:52:01,080 --> 01:52:03,840
Speaker 5: terrible shit. But you know, we've all done some wild

2370
01:52:03,880 --> 01:52:06,280
Speaker 5: shitting our day. So when I sit back and look

2371
01:52:06,320 --> 01:52:06,519
Speaker 5: at it.

2372
01:52:07,000 --> 01:52:09,320
Speaker 6: At that same time, a lot of the homies I

2373
01:52:09,439 --> 01:52:11,840
Speaker 6: was running around with, one of my other homies died

2374
01:52:11,840 --> 01:52:13,360
Speaker 6: over twenty dollars Bill, you know.

2375
01:52:13,360 --> 01:52:14,800
Speaker 4: What I'm saying. Busy stuff man.

2376
01:52:15,760 --> 01:52:17,519
Speaker 5: So we had used had this place called the Hoop,

2377
01:52:17,960 --> 01:52:19,800
Speaker 5: and you get into the Hoop. It was twenty dollars

2378
01:52:19,840 --> 01:52:21,240
Speaker 5: to get in there. You could play all day long.

2379
01:52:22,160 --> 01:52:24,160
Speaker 5: So you know, we all go up there and everybody

2380
01:52:24,160 --> 01:52:26,360
Speaker 5: goes up there, and the one of the homies was like,

2381
01:52:26,560 --> 01:52:28,120
Speaker 5: uh hey, let me get a twenty dollars. Let me

2382
01:52:28,160 --> 01:52:28,720
Speaker 5: get twenty dollars.

2383
01:52:28,720 --> 01:52:29,240
Speaker 4: So I can get in.

2384
01:52:30,760 --> 01:52:32,840
Speaker 5: They gave him a little twenty dollars. Some weeks go by,

2385
01:52:33,320 --> 01:52:36,720
Speaker 5: they asked him for the twenty dollars because like, hey,

2386
01:52:38,080 --> 01:52:39,280
Speaker 5: what's up with that twenty dollars?

2387
01:52:39,320 --> 01:52:41,000
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. He was like, man, fuck you,

2388
01:52:41,040 --> 01:52:42,479
Speaker 4: I don't pay back debts. I kill him.

2389
01:52:43,960 --> 01:52:45,680
Speaker 5: So when he said that, you know what I'm saying,

2390
01:52:45,720 --> 01:52:47,559
Speaker 5: the boys didn't have no choice, but they dove on him.

2391
01:52:47,560 --> 01:52:49,479
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying to a brother, a dude,

2392
01:52:49,520 --> 01:52:52,840
Speaker 5: and a cousin. So they dove on him. So after this,

2393
01:52:52,960 --> 01:52:55,559
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, every time my homie will

2394
01:52:55,600 --> 01:52:56,640
Speaker 5: see him. You know what I'm saying. He had a

2395
01:52:56,720 --> 01:52:58,799
Speaker 5: chop on his lap. He had an ak. Be outside

2396
01:52:58,800 --> 01:53:01,040
Speaker 5: of the dude's mama's house with the ak on his lap.

2397
01:53:01,600 --> 01:53:03,559
Speaker 5: You see him at the gas station, pull up with him.

2398
01:53:03,560 --> 01:53:05,000
Speaker 5: He got it on his lap. You know what I'm saying.

2399
01:53:05,120 --> 01:53:07,080
Speaker 5: Just every single place he's seen him. You know what

2400
01:53:07,080 --> 01:53:10,080
Speaker 5: I'm saying, he over there showing it. So one night

2401
01:53:10,600 --> 01:53:12,920
Speaker 5: he had just came came to my first little shop.

2402
01:53:13,960 --> 01:53:15,559
Speaker 5: He had dropped me all some money for the car.

2403
01:53:16,160 --> 01:53:17,800
Speaker 5: At about two o'clock in the morning, I get a

2404
01:53:17,880 --> 01:53:19,439
Speaker 5: call from a girl frantic. You know what I'm saying.

2405
01:53:19,439 --> 01:53:22,600
Speaker 5: I can't understand what she's talking about. What happened was

2406
01:53:23,640 --> 01:53:26,800
Speaker 5: he was at a club, a little strip club. These

2407
01:53:26,880 --> 01:53:29,000
Speaker 5: dudes wasn't looking for him, but they went in there.

2408
01:53:29,040 --> 01:53:30,800
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, happened to see him in there.

2409
01:53:31,280 --> 01:53:32,920
Speaker 4: You know what it is? What it is.

2410
01:53:34,760 --> 01:53:36,760
Speaker 5: If I don't make this decision now, he's gonna end

2411
01:53:36,840 --> 01:53:39,200
Speaker 5: up getting me sod like waiting for him, went outside.

2412
01:53:39,240 --> 01:53:41,840
Speaker 5: When he came outside, they hit him all over a

2413
01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:43,120
Speaker 5: twenty dollars bill. You know what I'm saying.

2414
01:53:43,360 --> 01:53:44,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, it happened.

2415
01:53:44,360 --> 01:53:46,360
Speaker 5: Man, far as to say, like a twenty dollars bill.

2416
01:53:47,080 --> 01:53:48,800
Speaker 5: It wasn't just a twenty dollars bill, you know what

2417
01:53:48,800 --> 01:53:50,960
Speaker 5: I'm saying. It was the principal. It's the principal behind it.

2418
01:53:51,120 --> 01:53:53,000
Speaker 5: I saw dunk get went up again for a dollar.

2419
01:53:53,120 --> 01:53:53,280
Speaker 4: Man.

2420
01:53:53,360 --> 01:53:56,920
Speaker 5: Listen, But that's the shit that when you start looking

2421
01:53:56,960 --> 01:53:59,120
Speaker 5: at analyzing what you're doing. You know what I'm saying.

2422
01:53:59,280 --> 01:54:01,920
Speaker 5: And I love the homies till to this day the

2423
01:54:02,040 --> 01:54:04,280
Speaker 5: majority of them's gone. But the reality of it is,

2424
01:54:04,960 --> 01:54:07,920
Speaker 5: had I continue moving the same manner that I was moving,

2425
01:54:08,880 --> 01:54:10,599
Speaker 5: There's no question about it that I would have been

2426
01:54:10,640 --> 01:54:11,960
Speaker 5: dead or incarcerated.

2427
01:54:12,280 --> 01:54:14,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me ask you no question. Let me ask

2428
01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:16,280
Speaker 3: you this, because you want a real they could be

2429
01:54:16,360 --> 01:54:19,400
Speaker 3: a real high end business. What's the most expensive builds?

2430
01:54:19,400 --> 01:54:19,920
Speaker 3: You don't done?

2431
01:54:20,760 --> 01:54:25,439
Speaker 5: We got one right now that's gonna be about two

2432
01:54:25,960 --> 01:54:31,160
Speaker 5: seventy five probably right now, it's say seventy Chevelle three

2433
01:54:31,280 --> 01:54:37,480
Speaker 5: ninety six LT four motor ten speed transmission. So basically

2434
01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:39,160
Speaker 5: what he wants the inside to look like though you know,

2435
01:54:39,240 --> 01:54:41,280
Speaker 5: you always talking about like the rest though mad you

2436
01:54:41,320 --> 01:54:42,520
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. You was talking about that shit

2437
01:54:42,520 --> 01:54:44,720
Speaker 5: earlier before we came on the air. But he wants

2438
01:54:44,760 --> 01:54:46,840
Speaker 5: the whole inside to be basically like a tesla. So

2439
01:54:46,880 --> 01:54:48,720
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. When he sits in this bitch,

2440
01:54:48,760 --> 01:54:51,000
Speaker 5: he said he want to sit like in a cockpit basically.

2441
01:54:51,960 --> 01:54:56,120
Speaker 5: So the amount of money that he's willing to pay

2442
01:54:56,240 --> 01:54:59,240
Speaker 5: for it, we're willing to move that manner, you know.

2443
01:54:59,360 --> 01:55:01,920
Speaker 5: And that's another that's another comeback to another point. Like

2444
01:55:02,120 --> 01:55:04,560
Speaker 5: my first shop that I opened, I started in Ohio.

2445
01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:09,120
Speaker 5: That's one of the worst mistakes that you can ever

2446
01:55:09,200 --> 01:55:11,520
Speaker 5: do is is start a shop like that, especially in

2447
01:55:11,600 --> 01:55:15,880
Speaker 5: the neighborhood because everybody wants the homie hookup. So when

2448
01:55:15,880 --> 01:55:18,240
Speaker 5: you're trying to give everybody the homie hookup, you might

2449
01:55:18,280 --> 01:55:21,080
Speaker 5: get a motherfucker there come in there and be like, hey,

2450
01:55:21,160 --> 01:55:25,200
Speaker 5: I paid you eight hundred dollars last week. But you

2451
01:55:25,240 --> 01:55:26,640
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, I got to re up and

2452
01:55:26,720 --> 01:55:28,360
Speaker 5: this happened. Blah dah, da da dah. Let me get

2453
01:55:28,400 --> 01:55:30,600
Speaker 5: two hundred and fifty dollars. Let me get this, you

2454
01:55:30,640 --> 01:55:32,240
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, and then use the business like

2455
01:55:32,320 --> 01:55:38,240
Speaker 5: it's a fucking bank. That was probably my biggest mistake ever,

2456
01:55:38,560 --> 01:55:40,600
Speaker 5: but it was the biggest learning experience for me.

2457
01:55:41,000 --> 01:55:44,920
Speaker 4: You learned change at that time. You know what I'm saying.

2458
01:55:45,120 --> 01:55:46,760
Speaker 5: I start making some money, you know what I mean,

2459
01:55:46,800 --> 01:55:51,160
Speaker 5: And I decided moving to like a real busy neighborhood,

2460
01:55:51,320 --> 01:55:53,960
Speaker 5: a real busy like basically like Crenshaw, you know what

2461
01:55:53,960 --> 01:55:56,800
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like a high volume street like that.

2462
01:55:58,520 --> 01:56:00,640
Speaker 4: One night somebody broke in there. You know what I'm saying.

2463
01:56:00,680 --> 01:56:03,480
Speaker 5: I'm young, don't know no different, Like I said, you

2464
01:56:03,560 --> 01:56:05,680
Speaker 5: had the hood mentality of running business and don't really

2465
01:56:05,720 --> 01:56:08,680
Speaker 5: understand I'm like twenty two years old. Somebody broken there

2466
01:56:08,680 --> 01:56:11,240
Speaker 5: and stole pretty much everything up out of there. Well

2467
01:56:11,280 --> 01:56:12,880
Speaker 5: you get all these my mom, you know what I'm saying,

2468
01:56:12,960 --> 01:56:14,840
Speaker 5: Like she working in her state farm, you know, so

2469
01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:17,400
Speaker 5: she here and all this shit. Oh yeah, he probably

2470
01:56:17,720 --> 01:56:20,080
Speaker 5: he had somebody break in so he can get insurance. Man,

2471
01:56:20,120 --> 01:56:22,480
Speaker 5: we didn't have insurance. Man, I didn't know no different.

2472
01:56:22,760 --> 01:56:24,680
Speaker 5: I didn't know nothing about that shit at that point

2473
01:56:24,680 --> 01:56:27,320
Speaker 5: in time. But that's the kind of shit in the

2474
01:56:27,480 --> 01:56:31,480
Speaker 5: mind set of people. Nobody was proud that she was

2475
01:56:31,560 --> 01:56:32,960
Speaker 5: doing the shit you was doing.

2476
01:56:33,160 --> 01:56:36,760
Speaker 2: Or not being not only until they could see the

2477
01:56:36,880 --> 01:56:39,720
Speaker 2: successes or reaped from it and not to be you

2478
01:56:39,840 --> 01:56:40,400
Speaker 2: know whatever.

2479
01:56:40,560 --> 01:56:41,800
Speaker 4: But that's just some people.

2480
01:56:41,920 --> 01:56:45,760
Speaker 2: They just it's hard for people to believe in your

2481
01:56:46,000 --> 01:56:50,480
Speaker 2: dream when it's not what they envisioned. You get me,

2482
01:56:50,840 --> 01:56:54,600
Speaker 2: you know, and your parents always gonna envision something different

2483
01:56:54,760 --> 01:56:58,680
Speaker 2: than something affiliated with the street culture, you get me,

2484
01:56:58,920 --> 01:57:02,400
Speaker 2: whether it was rap music or cars or whatever. I

2485
01:57:02,440 --> 01:57:06,080
Speaker 2: don't think no parents wanted to hear their child go

2486
01:57:06,680 --> 01:57:10,600
Speaker 2: or I'm I'm gonna start building cars. You know, I'm

2487
01:57:10,600 --> 01:57:13,320
Speaker 2: gonna start building low riders, just like when I came

2488
01:57:13,400 --> 01:57:15,600
Speaker 2: to the table and say I'm finna start making rap

2489
01:57:15,720 --> 01:57:20,200
Speaker 2: songs and making records. Motherfucker's like what, nigga, You finna

2490
01:57:20,240 --> 01:57:23,960
Speaker 2: make no money from no rap, So your mind, man, please.

2491
01:57:24,160 --> 01:57:26,320
Speaker 3: You know ma, Mama was so mad at me when

2492
01:57:26,360 --> 01:57:28,280
Speaker 3: I told her I'm going out here to play football

2493
01:57:28,360 --> 01:57:29,240
Speaker 3: for Long Beach City.

2494
01:57:29,680 --> 01:57:32,240
Speaker 4: She said, you can go to CarH Community College. You

2495
01:57:32,280 --> 01:57:35,560
Speaker 4: ain't gotta waste while glass around the corner.

2496
01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:38,440
Speaker 3: She was so mad because she said, I got a

2497
01:57:38,600 --> 01:57:41,560
Speaker 3: job for you at Kaiser. What I tell you, we

2498
01:57:41,640 --> 01:57:44,360
Speaker 3: got a job for you at Kaiser. It's a good job.

2499
01:57:44,520 --> 01:57:45,200
Speaker 4: You can go up there.

2500
01:57:45,240 --> 01:57:47,160
Speaker 6: You could be retired by the time you fifty five.

2501
01:57:47,200 --> 01:57:50,240
Speaker 6: I'm thinking that my mom like you, I want you

2502
01:57:50,280 --> 01:57:51,200
Speaker 6: to work at Kaiser.

2503
01:57:51,280 --> 01:57:51,440
Speaker 7: Man.

2504
01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:54,240
Speaker 4: I didn't want to work at Kaiser Aluminum Man. Ain't

2505
01:57:54,280 --> 01:57:56,000
Speaker 4: nothing wrong with Kaiser, love them though.

2506
01:57:56,520 --> 01:57:58,640
Speaker 2: You gotta got you something, nigga. You could have got

2507
01:57:58,680 --> 01:58:02,280
Speaker 2: you some benefits. You know what I'm saying. You probably

2508
01:58:02,280 --> 01:58:05,720
Speaker 2: wouldn't probably wouldn't. You probably wouldn't have met your love

2509
01:58:05,760 --> 01:58:08,080
Speaker 2: of your life, your wife right now. But you would

2510
01:58:08,080 --> 01:58:11,920
Speaker 2: have had you some old country bumpkin and treated, cooking

2511
01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:15,640
Speaker 2: you some grits and eggs and sending you on your

2512
01:58:15,680 --> 01:58:16,960
Speaker 2: way to Kuys.

2513
01:58:18,160 --> 01:58:21,760
Speaker 5: The fucking a little way. You saying that, saying that

2514
01:58:21,840 --> 01:58:23,840
Speaker 5: though it's exactly my mom what.

2515
01:58:23,960 --> 01:58:25,360
Speaker 4: She she said.

2516
01:58:25,400 --> 01:58:27,600
Speaker 5: My mama told me, she said, you might not you

2517
01:58:27,720 --> 01:58:29,880
Speaker 5: might not be rich, but give you enough. You pay

2518
01:58:29,880 --> 01:58:32,280
Speaker 5: your bills and get your pizza up. Man, come on, man,

2519
01:58:32,480 --> 01:58:33,080
Speaker 5: you're gonna have you.

2520
01:58:33,280 --> 01:58:35,160
Speaker 4: You have you a chef. You're gonna have you a

2521
01:58:35,280 --> 01:58:37,360
Speaker 4: goddamn Chevy truck. Out there.

2522
01:58:37,520 --> 01:58:42,960
Speaker 6: Digga going to the same damn bar every Friday night

2523
01:58:43,080 --> 01:58:44,120
Speaker 6: talking about ship.

2524
01:58:44,760 --> 01:58:48,960
Speaker 2: Get on in the back and there on the July

2525
01:58:49,400 --> 01:58:53,400
Speaker 2: put this, put this above the ground pool up, Nigga,

2526
01:58:53,480 --> 01:58:55,600
Speaker 2: y'all be back there chilling in the.

2527
01:58:55,720 --> 01:59:01,640
Speaker 6: Above the grounding the same with the same neighbor every

2528
01:59:01,680 --> 01:59:02,600
Speaker 6: weekend barbecued.

2529
01:59:02,600 --> 01:59:04,080
Speaker 4: You see how he's got a new pit right.

2530
01:59:04,040 --> 01:59:07,960
Speaker 2: There, getting getting off on Friday evening. They could come

2531
01:59:08,040 --> 01:59:10,720
Speaker 2: there with your little bit of motherfucking kaiser with your

2532
01:59:10,840 --> 01:59:14,120
Speaker 2: name Pat right therewist.

2533
01:59:14,480 --> 01:59:20,600
Speaker 4: Don't get a twisted yeah that there was nothing wrong

2534
01:59:20,720 --> 01:59:22,880
Speaker 4: with that, But for me, it was for me.

2535
01:59:23,040 --> 01:59:25,960
Speaker 3: Dog got see it like you something feeling your side,

2536
01:59:26,080 --> 01:59:28,440
Speaker 3: Like nigga when you went and told your mama you

2537
01:59:28,560 --> 01:59:29,920
Speaker 3: was gonna be a rapper, You feel.

2538
01:59:29,800 --> 01:59:32,520
Speaker 2: That in your soul, like that was what you're doing.

2539
01:59:32,800 --> 01:59:35,120
Speaker 2: You gotta chase the passion man. And like I said,

2540
01:59:35,160 --> 01:59:41,920
Speaker 2: everybody's is. Everybody's dream of your success isn't gonna be

2541
01:59:42,080 --> 01:59:44,880
Speaker 2: what your dream is. Let's just face it. You know

2542
01:59:45,360 --> 01:59:47,840
Speaker 2: your mama don't want you to be no football player

2543
01:59:47,880 --> 01:59:51,160
Speaker 2: in Loan Beat. She just thinking, She's not thinking like

2544
01:59:52,160 --> 01:59:54,440
Speaker 2: he could really go out there. And she just saw

2545
01:59:54,520 --> 01:59:58,240
Speaker 2: the coat, thinking like many out there day out And

2546
01:59:58,400 --> 02:00:02,000
Speaker 2: I've seen that movie come and they out there with

2547
02:00:02,200 --> 02:00:05,800
Speaker 2: that you know what I'm saying. They out there with

2548
02:00:06,000 --> 02:00:08,840
Speaker 2: that rap ship on top of you. Give me on

2549
02:00:09,000 --> 02:00:12,600
Speaker 2: top of that, nigga, Please boy, get your boy. Get

2550
02:00:12,640 --> 02:00:16,000
Speaker 2: on up there. They waiting for you right there. He

2551
02:00:16,080 --> 02:00:18,000
Speaker 2: waited for you to come on for that interview.

2552
02:00:18,120 --> 02:00:21,200
Speaker 6: To get me, I had Compton, I had Compton Community

2553
02:00:21,240 --> 02:00:22,320
Speaker 6: College try to get me back.

2554
02:00:22,400 --> 02:00:26,360
Speaker 4: Then Bakersfield almost went the biggest field too. I'm like

2555
02:00:26,840 --> 02:00:27,480
Speaker 4: to get me up there.

2556
02:00:27,560 --> 02:00:31,360
Speaker 5: There was another school up there, man, what was San Luis?

2557
02:00:32,240 --> 02:00:34,360
Speaker 4: Uh huh Sam Louis Obispo. Yeah.

2558
02:00:34,440 --> 02:00:35,960
Speaker 5: Man, they try to get me up there too. And

2559
02:00:36,120 --> 02:00:40,560
Speaker 5: I ended up in Fort Dodge. I was sir Fort Dodge.

2560
02:00:40,920 --> 02:00:43,960
Speaker 5: Did I tell you That's the first time that reality

2561
02:00:44,040 --> 02:00:46,680
Speaker 5: ever sunk into me. Because I played ball at such

2562
02:00:46,720 --> 02:00:49,720
Speaker 5: a high level and had such expectations for my life

2563
02:00:49,880 --> 02:00:53,400
Speaker 5: and for me when I got up there, man, you know,

2564
02:00:53,480 --> 02:00:55,760
Speaker 5: I'm used to like my last high school game we

2565
02:00:55,880 --> 02:00:59,920
Speaker 5: played in Columbus at the coliseum and at the time,

2566
02:01:00,000 --> 02:01:03,280
Speaker 5: and there was two guys McDonald's, all Americans on that

2567
02:01:03,440 --> 02:01:06,440
Speaker 5: one team that they had and they were one was

2568
02:01:06,520 --> 02:01:09,880
Speaker 5: on my AAU team. So at that time, the expansion

2569
02:01:10,520 --> 02:01:16,640
Speaker 5: NBA st so the Toronto Raptors Vancouver Grizzlies, those two

2570
02:01:16,680 --> 02:01:19,720
Speaker 5: teams will be at a lot of our shit. But

2571
02:01:20,240 --> 02:01:23,760
Speaker 5: my last game was in the coliseum and the game

2572
02:01:23,840 --> 02:01:27,040
Speaker 5: start at six o'clock and you see motherfuckers outside lined

2573
02:01:27,120 --> 02:01:29,200
Speaker 5: up around the building waiting to get into your game.

2574
02:01:29,240 --> 02:01:32,080
Speaker 5: As a high school kid in a coliseum. When I

2575
02:01:32,160 --> 02:01:34,200
Speaker 5: get up to Fort Dodge, Iowa and I walk in

2576
02:01:34,280 --> 02:01:36,120
Speaker 5: there the first time, and I walked in that gym

2577
02:01:36,200 --> 02:01:39,000
Speaker 5: and there was about thirteen motherfuckers in there. That's the

2578
02:01:39,120 --> 02:01:42,320
Speaker 5: first time it sunk in like you fucked up, you

2579
02:01:42,400 --> 02:01:44,040
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, like real shit, Like I.

2580
02:01:44,040 --> 02:01:48,920
Speaker 4: Didn't like the act the sat I knew that I.

2581
02:01:50,400 --> 02:01:53,880
Speaker 5: It was the first time reality hit where being Chris

2582
02:01:53,960 --> 02:01:56,120
Speaker 5: Ash don't mean shit no more. You know what I'm

2583
02:01:56,120 --> 02:01:58,440
Speaker 5: saying like it couldn't get you to where.

2584
02:01:58,240 --> 02:01:58,680
Speaker 4: You want to go.

2585
02:01:58,880 --> 02:02:02,400
Speaker 5: No, Man, The first night that I was out there,

2586
02:02:03,400 --> 02:02:06,520
Speaker 5: there was a little these people from Trinidad had a

2587
02:02:07,280 --> 02:02:09,640
Speaker 5: they played soccer and they had this this little party.

2588
02:02:10,280 --> 02:02:13,600
Speaker 5: And I walked walked into this party and like I said,

2589
02:02:13,840 --> 02:02:15,200
Speaker 5: you know, I've seen a lot of ship, but I

2590
02:02:15,280 --> 02:02:17,800
Speaker 5: walk in there and I see motherfuckers right here on

2591
02:02:17,920 --> 02:02:20,840
Speaker 5: this in this duplex, and they fucking on the stairwell,

2592
02:02:21,440 --> 02:02:24,040
Speaker 5: and I see these guys trying to hand me some alcohol.

2593
02:02:24,040 --> 02:02:25,240
Speaker 5: I don't know what the fuck it is for me

2594
02:02:25,320 --> 02:02:27,240
Speaker 5: to drink when I come in here, Like, I'm me

2595
02:02:27,360 --> 02:02:28,720
Speaker 5: and I'm from where I'm from. So at the end

2596
02:02:28,720 --> 02:02:30,280
Speaker 5: of the day, man, ain't nobody give me ship and

2597
02:02:30,320 --> 02:02:31,640
Speaker 5: tell me what to do, you know what I'm saying.

2598
02:02:31,720 --> 02:02:33,880
Speaker 5: So I turn up every but like, oh hey, you

2599
02:02:33,920 --> 02:02:35,640
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. Everything's Everything's cool.

2600
02:02:36,000 --> 02:02:36,120
Speaker 1: Man.

2601
02:02:36,200 --> 02:02:37,839
Speaker 4: I walked up out of there crying.

2602
02:02:37,920 --> 02:02:38,000
Speaker 7: Bro.

2603
02:02:38,120 --> 02:02:41,240
Speaker 5: When I tell you, like the being out there in

2604
02:02:41,360 --> 02:02:44,040
Speaker 5: a world, it's the first time I ever literally just

2605
02:02:44,320 --> 02:02:45,360
Speaker 5: I just broke down and cried.

2606
02:02:45,440 --> 02:02:45,520
Speaker 7: Bro.

2607
02:02:45,600 --> 02:02:48,200
Speaker 5: It was cold and ship. Because I went the second semester,

2608
02:02:48,280 --> 02:02:50,920
Speaker 5: I sat out the first semester. I got there in

2609
02:02:51,400 --> 02:02:55,120
Speaker 5: January and that that type of cold on that flat land.

2610
02:02:55,160 --> 02:02:58,760
Speaker 5: When that ship hit me in the face, What the

2611
02:02:58,960 --> 02:03:00,680
Speaker 5: fuck ship?

2612
02:03:01,120 --> 02:03:03,080
Speaker 4: I broke out? Man, I'm crying walking.

2613
02:03:02,840 --> 02:03:04,320
Speaker 6: Back to how long did it take you to leave?

2614
02:03:04,800 --> 02:03:07,640
Speaker 6: I was out of there in May, sir, saying fact

2615
02:03:07,680 --> 02:03:09,360
Speaker 6: that I'm gone. I was out of there in May,

2616
02:03:09,840 --> 02:03:12,000
Speaker 6: and you know what I mean? Like, still, how long

2617
02:03:12,080 --> 02:03:15,560
Speaker 6: it took you to leave? LBCC, Man, Shit, I didn't leave.

2618
02:03:15,640 --> 02:03:16,680
Speaker 4: I stayed. You stayed.

2619
02:03:16,920 --> 02:03:19,360
Speaker 3: I stayed the whole time, graduated and got a scholarship

2620
02:03:19,360 --> 02:03:20,720
Speaker 3: at New Mexico State University.

2621
02:03:21,240 --> 02:03:23,680
Speaker 5: Better off had I came out here, Yeah, it was

2622
02:03:23,760 --> 02:03:25,400
Speaker 5: just when time. I would have been better off.

2623
02:03:25,480 --> 02:03:27,560
Speaker 3: But what I said it was, Man, if you go

2624
02:03:27,720 --> 02:03:30,520
Speaker 3: be stuck somewhere, it needs to be southern California. Man, Yeah,

2625
02:03:32,280 --> 02:03:34,320
Speaker 3: that was bad for me culturally. If I'm gonna be

2626
02:03:34,360 --> 02:03:36,080
Speaker 3: stuck somewhere, it's gonna be out here in Kelly.

2627
02:03:36,200 --> 02:03:36,360
Speaker 4: Man.

2628
02:03:36,560 --> 02:03:38,200
Speaker 5: I will tell you some wild ship though, now I

2629
02:03:38,280 --> 02:03:40,960
Speaker 5: think about it. So when they had a radio station

2630
02:03:41,080 --> 02:03:46,280
Speaker 5: in there and eight had just dropped last man standing.

2631
02:03:47,040 --> 02:03:49,120
Speaker 6: These people didn't know nothing about this, but they you

2632
02:03:49,160 --> 02:03:50,640
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. They gave me some albums and

2633
02:03:50,760 --> 02:03:53,040
Speaker 6: it happened to be that last man standing. I still

2634
02:03:53,080 --> 02:03:54,200
Speaker 6: got that album to this day.

2635
02:03:54,920 --> 02:03:58,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's radio station that's cracking up in the Iowa.

2636
02:03:58,560 --> 02:04:01,080
Speaker 4: They're handing me that ship when Fort Dodge, I.

2637
02:04:01,280 --> 02:04:04,960
Speaker 6: Was, yeah, I'll let you know, it was everywhere when

2638
02:04:04,960 --> 02:04:08,080
Speaker 6: I take nigga everywhere niggas.

2639
02:04:07,920 --> 02:04:11,120
Speaker 5: Fort Dodge they handed me, They handed me that, They

2640
02:04:11,240 --> 02:04:13,400
Speaker 5: handed me a master p and they handed me.

2641
02:04:13,440 --> 02:04:15,640
Speaker 6: A mace at the same time. Hey, I got the

2642
02:04:15,840 --> 02:04:17,760
Speaker 6: got these four you know what I'm saying. They was like, here,

2643
02:04:17,840 --> 02:04:20,200
Speaker 6: get this ship up out of here. Here you go, Chris,

2644
02:04:21,000 --> 02:04:23,880
Speaker 6: that's crazy, man, And you got that cracking there. What's

2645
02:04:23,920 --> 02:04:26,040
Speaker 6: your Instagram page? Man, so you can ask you some

2646
02:04:26,160 --> 02:04:27,840
Speaker 6: more followers. Man, you already got a whole bunch of

2647
02:04:27,880 --> 02:04:29,280
Speaker 6: motherfuckers on State.

2648
02:04:29,240 --> 02:04:33,640
Speaker 2: Customs, sun State Customs man, sunk Hiller at my people,

2649
02:04:33,720 --> 02:04:35,600
Speaker 2: y'all looking for official build.

2650
02:04:35,800 --> 02:04:38,280
Speaker 4: Then my nigg got the motherfucker's on deck.

2651
02:04:38,480 --> 02:04:38,640
Speaker 1: Man.

2652
02:04:38,880 --> 02:04:40,720
Speaker 4: I stopped playing cards for days.

2653
02:04:41,760 --> 02:04:44,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, years, i'mna have to come dipping up on here.

2654
02:04:44,960 --> 02:04:47,200
Speaker 2: Still on you and one man, Let you see what

2655
02:04:47,320 --> 02:04:49,440
Speaker 2: it's cracking like. I'm gonna give me one. I'm gonna

2656
02:04:49,480 --> 02:04:50,240
Speaker 2: give me a dunk.

2657
02:04:50,080 --> 02:04:52,160
Speaker 4: And we got something coming, then, my boy Chris got

2658
02:04:52,400 --> 02:04:58,080
Speaker 4: a nice one coming. Yeah, what you getting? I would

2659
02:04:58,120 --> 02:04:59,920
Speaker 4: just pull up on you one day and tell your

2660
02:05:00,040 --> 02:05:02,720
Speaker 4: asked Ye, it is something coming. Though, then I'm gonna

2661
02:05:02,720 --> 02:05:07,280
Speaker 4: have to get me one. It's Maria. Ain't nothing, Yeah

2662
02:05:07,320 --> 02:05:11,800
Speaker 4: she Maria. Don't run there. Hey, Brian, let me know

2663
02:05:11,880 --> 02:05:16,760
Speaker 4: where he cut that part out. But seriously, then I'm

2664
02:05:16,760 --> 02:05:17,600
Speaker 4: gonna get me one. Man.

2665
02:05:17,720 --> 02:05:20,240
Speaker 3: I kind of want to. I want to dunk. I

2666
02:05:20,280 --> 02:05:22,120
Speaker 3: don't want nothing traditional, you know what I mean. I

2667
02:05:22,280 --> 02:05:25,400
Speaker 3: just want some nice man shiny with nice ass rims

2668
02:05:25,480 --> 02:05:28,680
Speaker 3: on it, man, and some beating it. We'll get you.

2669
02:05:28,720 --> 02:05:31,200
Speaker 4: Ask you this one. We'll get you an LTD nigga?

2670
02:05:31,560 --> 02:05:33,280
Speaker 4: Why dunk over a low rider?

2671
02:05:34,320 --> 02:05:34,680
Speaker 1: You know what?

2672
02:05:34,920 --> 02:05:35,080
Speaker 4: Man?

2673
02:05:35,120 --> 02:05:36,040
Speaker 7: I just like to you know what.

2674
02:05:36,080 --> 02:05:38,400
Speaker 4: I wouldn't mind having a low rider either though. I

2675
02:05:38,600 --> 02:05:40,720
Speaker 4: just like the dunks. If I do get a low.

2676
02:05:40,720 --> 02:05:42,680
Speaker 2: Rider, I don't want all the hop Just don't cut

2677
02:05:42,720 --> 02:05:46,000
Speaker 2: his ship. Yeah, he just won't cut his ship. Yeah,

2678
02:05:46,320 --> 02:05:48,520
Speaker 2: riding on fourteen fifteen. That shit look ridiculous.

2679
02:05:48,520 --> 02:05:48,800
Speaker 4: He will.

2680
02:05:50,080 --> 02:05:53,480
Speaker 6: I'm not, I'm not involved in that. Give me some fresh.

2681
02:05:53,520 --> 02:05:56,520
Speaker 6: Are you want to cut? You don't here to switch

2682
02:05:56,600 --> 02:05:57,160
Speaker 6: you to hell?

2683
02:05:57,280 --> 02:05:57,480
Speaker 7: Yeah?

2684
02:05:58,080 --> 02:05:59,160
Speaker 4: He need his front and back.

2685
02:05:59,320 --> 02:06:01,480
Speaker 5: You know, he gets for switches front back. So I

2686
02:06:01,600 --> 02:06:04,280
Speaker 5: decided which, well, front back, We'll do three wheel right,

2687
02:06:04,320 --> 02:06:04,760
Speaker 5: three wheels?

2688
02:06:04,880 --> 02:06:07,600
Speaker 4: Uh huh, that's what doing? You know I might go

2689
02:06:07,720 --> 02:06:10,000
Speaker 4: three wheel? Yeah, you know what I mean this.

2690
02:06:10,200 --> 02:06:12,480
Speaker 2: They don't know what the fuck. He will be there,

2691
02:06:12,560 --> 02:06:17,760
Speaker 2: But Maria gonna be dipping hell out of my ship.

2692
02:06:18,320 --> 02:06:20,360
Speaker 2: You wouldn't let her drive. You wouldn't let her drive

2693
02:06:20,440 --> 02:06:22,800
Speaker 2: the four No, man, shein's supposed to behind.

2694
02:06:22,840 --> 02:06:23,560
Speaker 4: That's me, man.

2695
02:06:23,640 --> 02:06:28,800
Speaker 5: We had a beautiful last the last two weekends out here, Man,

2696
02:06:28,920 --> 02:06:32,839
Speaker 5: been a lot of the OG's had a two shows.

2697
02:06:32,880 --> 02:06:36,080
Speaker 2: Individuals. Yeah, I've been seeing a lot of Yeah. Shout out.

2698
02:06:36,400 --> 02:06:38,800
Speaker 2: Shout out to all the car clubs out here, man, Bryan,

2699
02:06:38,840 --> 02:06:40,080
Speaker 2: did you shoot the individuals?

2700
02:06:41,000 --> 02:06:44,600
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Brian just shot the weekend.

2701
02:06:44,440 --> 02:06:48,320
Speaker 5: Boys got down man, Big Dre shout out Big Dre,

2702
02:06:48,520 --> 02:06:49,040
Speaker 5: Fat Rat.

2703
02:06:49,680 --> 02:06:52,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out my nigga, Dre Man, my nigga from

2704
02:06:52,040 --> 02:06:57,360
Speaker 2: GUARDENA all good low ride of culture is real heavy man.

2705
02:06:57,480 --> 02:06:59,880
Speaker 2: Like I said, I've been around it for a long time.

2706
02:07:00,760 --> 02:07:06,360
Speaker 2: I got into it about when I was nineteen eighteen.

2707
02:07:07,200 --> 02:07:09,960
Speaker 2: It's just a fascination. It's all over the world now, man,

2708
02:07:10,360 --> 02:07:17,480
Speaker 2: you know, Japan, fucking Hawaii, I mean everywhere, man is.

2709
02:07:17,720 --> 02:07:20,160
Speaker 2: The low rider is one of them things that has

2710
02:07:21,680 --> 02:07:25,640
Speaker 2: stood the test of time. You get me, especially coming

2711
02:07:25,760 --> 02:07:30,040
Speaker 2: from you know, the seventies, the early days from back then.

2712
02:07:30,280 --> 02:07:32,440
Speaker 2: You know, just like with hip hop getting started, a

2713
02:07:32,520 --> 02:07:35,240
Speaker 2: lot of people probably didn't think the culture was gonna last.

2714
02:07:35,680 --> 02:07:38,480
Speaker 2: They've tried to shut it down, they've tried to block it,

2715
02:07:38,680 --> 02:07:44,840
Speaker 2: but it has it has really it has established some

2716
02:07:46,400 --> 02:07:49,960
Speaker 2: if you want to say, some common ground between men,

2717
02:07:50,600 --> 02:07:56,040
Speaker 2: you know, niggas who have beefs learn how to overcome

2718
02:07:56,520 --> 02:07:59,600
Speaker 2: in certain situations when low rider shows and cars are

2719
02:07:59,640 --> 02:08:05,040
Speaker 2: in fat off. You learned you learned to uh turn

2720
02:08:05,160 --> 02:08:08,960
Speaker 2: your switch off, so to speak against the enemy man

2721
02:08:09,120 --> 02:08:13,880
Speaker 2: or whatever. Because the car culture brings everybody together and

2722
02:08:14,040 --> 02:08:16,640
Speaker 2: it's not about a lot of hood shit and beef

2723
02:08:16,760 --> 02:08:19,880
Speaker 2: and uh, it's just you know, so you know, you

2724
02:08:19,960 --> 02:08:22,040
Speaker 2: got to respect that man, you know, So shout out

2725
02:08:22,040 --> 02:08:24,080
Speaker 2: to all the lolo hoppers and riders.

2726
02:08:23,920 --> 02:08:27,160
Speaker 5: Like the show this weekend, like for instance, the individuals

2727
02:08:27,440 --> 02:08:29,240
Speaker 5: to be able to sit back and know like it.

2728
02:08:29,800 --> 02:08:33,320
Speaker 5: You know, that's one thing about the car culture. It

2729
02:08:33,480 --> 02:08:36,440
Speaker 5: does allow you also to learn a lot of real history.

2730
02:08:36,800 --> 02:08:39,640
Speaker 5: Definitely from l A, you know, definitely, and from Compton,

2731
02:08:39,800 --> 02:08:43,880
Speaker 5: from la from from the Inglewood. It it lets you

2732
02:08:44,200 --> 02:08:47,120
Speaker 5: understand a whole different world, you know, being out there

2733
02:08:47,160 --> 02:08:50,440
Speaker 5: with the God, the old majestics, being out there a gangster,

2734
02:08:50,560 --> 02:08:52,800
Speaker 5: being out there with O G twin. You know, you

2735
02:08:52,920 --> 02:08:55,480
Speaker 5: got got you got people from Santana Block, you got

2736
02:08:55,520 --> 02:08:58,800
Speaker 5: guys out there from the sixties, you got guys over

2737
02:08:58,840 --> 02:09:00,000
Speaker 5: there from other parts.

2738
02:09:00,760 --> 02:09:03,600
Speaker 4: Exactly everybody's or everybody come together.

2739
02:09:03,880 --> 02:09:08,040
Speaker 5: So to me, like it's like you said, having those

2740
02:09:08,120 --> 02:09:11,880
Speaker 5: those cars, that is that one common thing that when

2741
02:09:11,920 --> 02:09:13,480
Speaker 5: I tell you, I walk around and see a lot

2742
02:09:13,520 --> 02:09:14,960
Speaker 5: of guys from a lot of different hoods.

2743
02:09:15,400 --> 02:09:17,960
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying, and I've been, I've been out

2744
02:09:18,040 --> 02:09:21,600
Speaker 2: there and to be able to like be involved with

2745
02:09:21,920 --> 02:09:25,680
Speaker 2: that and not have to feel like, you know, in

2746
02:09:25,840 --> 02:09:28,320
Speaker 2: fear or whatever with it. Like, don't get me wrong,

2747
02:09:28,440 --> 02:09:31,400
Speaker 2: Niggas still gonna be niggas, but that seems to be

2748
02:09:31,520 --> 02:09:34,480
Speaker 2: the culture that brings a lot of niggas together. Then

2749
02:09:34,600 --> 02:09:37,800
Speaker 2: don't matter what color your flag is, you know, it's

2750
02:09:37,920 --> 02:09:40,840
Speaker 2: just the respect and and and the quality is what

2751
02:09:41,080 --> 02:09:44,040
Speaker 2: niggas enjoy. So yeah, definitely, y'all check out my men, Chris,

2752
02:09:44,520 --> 02:09:46,200
Speaker 2: Sun State customs.

2753
02:09:46,280 --> 02:09:48,600
Speaker 4: Still where we at? We out of here? Yeah, we

2754
02:09:48,720 --> 02:09:50,280
Speaker 4: out of your I want to ask them about this car.

2755
02:09:50,440 --> 02:09:51,760
Speaker 4: Was trying to look for it? Look at it is

2756
02:09:51,800 --> 02:09:52,440
Speaker 4: that I want?

2757
02:09:52,680 --> 02:09:53,080
Speaker 7: I wanted.

2758
02:09:53,880 --> 02:09:55,480
Speaker 4: I wanted chavel convertible.

2759
02:09:56,600 --> 02:09:58,640
Speaker 5: It's crazy, man, because a lot of guys be shining

2760
02:09:58,640 --> 02:09:59,960
Speaker 5: away from them, Schavelle convertibles.

2761
02:10:00,080 --> 02:10:00,600
Speaker 4: I love them.

2762
02:10:01,040 --> 02:10:03,480
Speaker 5: A lot of guys shy away. What you want a seventy? Yeah,

2763
02:10:03,560 --> 02:10:05,520
Speaker 5: like a seventy that's the car. That's what building right now?

2764
02:10:05,560 --> 02:10:07,320
Speaker 4: Now? Why are people shiying away from what I like?

2765
02:10:07,400 --> 02:10:07,560
Speaker 1: Those?

2766
02:10:07,760 --> 02:10:09,360
Speaker 4: That's why I want something a little different than what

2767
02:10:09,440 --> 02:10:10,360
Speaker 4: everybody else when it.

2768
02:10:10,360 --> 02:10:12,360
Speaker 5: Comes to the in palor world, I can speak on

2769
02:10:12,440 --> 02:10:14,800
Speaker 5: that all day long. But while guys shot away from

2770
02:10:14,840 --> 02:10:17,560
Speaker 5: that seventy drop, I really don't know. So that means

2771
02:10:17,560 --> 02:10:18,840
Speaker 5: it to be easy to find one there?

2772
02:10:19,640 --> 02:10:21,840
Speaker 4: Not brilliant say that you probably have to cut it,

2773
02:10:22,160 --> 02:10:23,800
Speaker 4: cut the top off out there.

2774
02:10:24,040 --> 02:10:29,480
Speaker 5: Okay, But that's another thing about the culture too. Guys

2775
02:10:29,520 --> 02:10:32,280
Speaker 5: get a misconception. You get some guys to talk about

2776
02:10:34,360 --> 02:10:36,560
Speaker 5: I'd rather buy one that's already bought this, that and

2777
02:10:36,600 --> 02:10:38,560
Speaker 5: the other. You better off to buy you a card

2778
02:10:38,600 --> 02:10:39,360
Speaker 5: that's a piece of shit.

2779
02:10:39,440 --> 02:10:41,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like to Yeah, I like to build better off.

2780
02:10:41,560 --> 02:10:43,960
Speaker 5: Because you know, I have guys bring me cars that

2781
02:10:44,000 --> 02:10:46,440
Speaker 5: they done pay fifty sixty thousand for and you got

2782
02:10:46,560 --> 02:10:48,000
Speaker 5: to take it all the way apart like you did.

2783
02:10:48,240 --> 02:10:51,720
Speaker 5: A car that'll cost twenty five hundred, and that's real shit.

2784
02:10:51,840 --> 02:10:54,120
Speaker 5: One of my boys he played plays in the NFL,

2785
02:10:54,640 --> 02:10:56,720
Speaker 5: and he brought a car in there and he paid

2786
02:10:57,880 --> 02:10:59,960
Speaker 5: great money. Leave it at that, you know what I'm saying.

2787
02:11:00,560 --> 02:11:03,440
Speaker 5: He paid great money for that car he bought. Came

2788
02:11:03,520 --> 02:11:04,680
Speaker 5: out of I believe in Indiana.

2789
02:11:04,920 --> 02:11:05,080
Speaker 4: Man.

2790
02:11:05,160 --> 02:11:07,920
Speaker 5: We had to take every panel off, rats nest, inside

2791
02:11:07,960 --> 02:11:12,320
Speaker 5: the firewall, all new quarters, all new floors, all new braces,

2792
02:11:12,440 --> 02:11:14,880
Speaker 5: all new trunk, every aspect of that car had to

2793
02:11:14,880 --> 02:11:17,000
Speaker 5: be rebuilt. And when I tell you the amount of

2794
02:11:17,000 --> 02:11:19,400
Speaker 5: money he spent, and he spent at before the cars

2795
02:11:19,440 --> 02:11:23,680
Speaker 5: really the sixty fours really took off. So you know

2796
02:11:23,840 --> 02:11:25,360
Speaker 5: you better off to go on and get you a

2797
02:11:25,520 --> 02:11:29,600
Speaker 5: car for about twenty five hundred dollars. Just bild, motherfucker,

2798
02:11:29,640 --> 02:11:30,960
Speaker 5: that's how much my first car.

2799
02:11:31,120 --> 02:11:31,280
Speaker 1: Car.

2800
02:11:32,280 --> 02:11:33,280
Speaker 4: Just gonna take it down the middle.

2801
02:11:33,320 --> 02:11:38,400
Speaker 2: Anyways, my first sixty three hard top supersports sticking the floor,

2802
02:11:38,880 --> 02:11:40,400
Speaker 2: I paid fifteen hundred four.

2803
02:11:41,280 --> 02:11:44,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it ran, but it was toe up.

2804
02:11:44,880 --> 02:11:47,560
Speaker 2: It was primer and the paint it was black, like

2805
02:11:47,680 --> 02:11:50,120
Speaker 2: somebody tried to paint it black and then decided to

2806
02:11:50,240 --> 02:11:53,160
Speaker 2: primer it up and they left it. The seats was

2807
02:11:53,280 --> 02:11:55,840
Speaker 2: tow up. I don't even think it had a back seat.

2808
02:11:56,240 --> 02:11:59,360
Speaker 2: It had two front seats and no back seat. But Nigga,

2809
02:11:59,400 --> 02:12:02,200
Speaker 2: that motherfucker rand that's the way I stuck that key in.

2810
02:12:02,240 --> 02:12:09,320
Speaker 2: That motherfucker, he said, and draw that motherfucker straight to

2811
02:12:09,440 --> 02:12:11,760
Speaker 2: the homie and Watts. I gave it straight to the

2812
02:12:11,840 --> 02:12:16,160
Speaker 2: homie from Grape and Nigga saw it about two months later, Nigga,

2813
02:12:16,280 --> 02:12:21,080
Speaker 2: brand new paint, brand new seats, gold dating's on that motherfucker.

2814
02:12:22,240 --> 02:12:24,840
Speaker 2: It was a It was basic. It didn't really cost

2815
02:12:24,960 --> 02:12:27,480
Speaker 2: me that much. It was base back then. My nigga

2816
02:12:27,600 --> 02:12:30,440
Speaker 2: was like Nigga. I think he was like, Nigga, throw

2817
02:12:30,480 --> 02:12:32,960
Speaker 2: me five six grand and I and Nigga brought it,

2818
02:12:33,080 --> 02:12:36,120
Speaker 2: brought it Nigga, and I thought that motherfucker was immaculate.

2819
02:12:36,920 --> 02:12:37,880
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, my.

2820
02:12:39,440 --> 02:12:42,200
Speaker 2: Nigga, please that Nigga brought it back to It was

2821
02:12:42,840 --> 02:12:47,480
Speaker 2: plain blue, white top, brand new interior. Nigga had like

2822
02:12:48,600 --> 02:12:51,840
Speaker 2: two gates in that motherfucker front backside to side on

2823
02:12:52,000 --> 02:12:55,920
Speaker 2: some all gold things. Nigga, you didn't have that on

2824
02:12:56,000 --> 02:12:59,480
Speaker 2: a on a magazine cover. Yeah, that was my trade,

2825
02:13:00,080 --> 02:13:02,280
Speaker 2: nigga with the one that was sitting on three wheels.

2826
02:13:02,360 --> 02:13:04,960
Speaker 4: Nigga. I loved that car. Nigga loved it.

2827
02:13:05,760 --> 02:13:09,400
Speaker 2: I told that car about five times, man, because that's

2828
02:13:09,440 --> 02:13:10,800
Speaker 2: why I say I was a hopper.

2829
02:13:10,920 --> 02:13:15,000
Speaker 4: I wasn't a rider. It was a rag uh rag

2830
02:13:15,200 --> 02:13:18,120
Speaker 4: foe was that in the I we that was a car.

2831
02:13:18,640 --> 02:13:21,920
Speaker 6: We got that car actually from like a Hollywood car shop,

2832
02:13:22,360 --> 02:13:25,680
Speaker 6: that rag six four that we took all music to

2833
02:13:25,800 --> 02:13:26,320
Speaker 6: drive by.

2834
02:13:26,640 --> 02:13:29,520
Speaker 5: That was my first CD, like when tapes turned from CDs,

2835
02:13:29,960 --> 02:13:31,320
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, from tape to CD.

2836
02:13:31,440 --> 02:13:35,560
Speaker 2: That was the first music to drive by on that

2837
02:13:35,960 --> 02:13:40,440
Speaker 2: and there it was. That was the thing drive by

2838
02:13:40,520 --> 02:13:42,480
Speaker 2: and on a nigga. So I just thought it was

2839
02:13:42,600 --> 02:13:46,120
Speaker 2: clever music to drive by because we fold drive by.

2840
02:13:46,080 --> 02:13:50,200
Speaker 3: On the last track with the shout out I want

2841
02:13:50,240 --> 02:13:53,160
Speaker 3: a sevel dog. I want that motherfucker deep purple, but

2842
02:13:53,240 --> 02:13:55,600
Speaker 3: I want a creamy white interior like you know that

2843
02:13:55,760 --> 02:13:57,960
Speaker 3: you look you see that my foot like white, like

2844
02:13:58,560 --> 02:14:00,920
Speaker 3: you don't see number white, almost like you sitting in

2845
02:14:00,960 --> 02:14:02,560
Speaker 3: the motherfucking cloud, you know what I mean.

2846
02:14:03,120 --> 02:14:07,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's how we do. We're getting up out of here. Yeah, yeah,

2847
02:14:07,360 --> 02:14:08,960
Speaker 4: we go out of here. Yeah we are man. We

2848
02:14:09,240 --> 02:14:15,360
Speaker 4: continue the discussion off here, Jim, I'm telling you how.

2849
02:14:17,520 --> 02:14:18,959
Speaker 1: My notes will grow like Pinocchio.

2850
02:14:19,080 --> 02:14:21,160
Speaker 4: We're gonna tell you the truth and nothing but the truth.

2851
02:14:23,440 --> 02:14:24,440
Speaker 4: This is not your